lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[dapper prism]

well later on yeh, you'll have ~12min full cycle (CC+Cooldown) to the next cc

Thats rough

[torn maple]

sooooo basically 2 bubo > 2 es?

[last pecan]

Time to grind levels 😦

[dapper prism]

Huh, no, the whole point was that 2 bubo is useless...

[obtuse rover]

2 ES is stronger for most accounts

[dapper prism]

Sicne the cooldown only gets reduced if your active on that bubo.

[torn maple]

under what conditions would 2 bubo be stronger?

[sharp igloo]

If you have really slow CC

[autumn wasp]

ur acc is weak

lacking lab levels

[torn maple]

ah i see

[obtuse rover]

I guess if you had a doot companion and really wanted to push account levels, alchemy levels, or lab levels.

[dapper prism]

Only time it would ever be better is if you neglected CC and stuff for it so hard like roadkill, that your CC is only gaining like 10k sec and you are only doing CC once a day xD

[torn maple]

so with a CC at like level 310 or smth it's better to just have 1 bubo and active on that?

[autumn wasp]

i dont active on my second bubo at all

and i dont even have doot

[torn maple]

cuz i do have doot and just feeling like my second ES isn't doing anything

[dapper prism]

You would never even touch a 2nd bubo

[torn maple]

would rather have a second bubo for faster passive alchemy but not totally sure

[sharp igloo]

I guess it might be worth leveling your bubo to 500 for the equinox dream and then switching to ES since bubo is a bit easier to level

[obtuse rover]

Doot basically kneecaps a major part of what makes ES good.

It can still do worship better, I guess.

[autumn wasp]

this do be slappin tho

[dapper prism]

Eh, even then by that time we'd have w6 with way better xp rates xD

[torn maple]

hmm all my chars are around 450 give or take, so that's gonna take ages still for me

[sharp igloo]

Yeah, probably not worth switching till w6

[dapper prism]

Like, lvl 500 on the bubo won't do much if they dont have bb/bm/vman at 500

[sharp igloo]

True lol

[torn maple]

and i don't particularly need lots of worship rn but i think you guys are right on waiting until w6

[dapper prism]

damn we are close 😄
https://i.imgur.com/rSHVzG4.png

Do have more on orange/yellow 😄
https://i.imgur.com/2EhbaN9.png

[last pecan]

I'm finding very few reasons to level my Vman past 225 becuase I'm capped on all worthwhile non voidwalker talents :S

[ruby yarrow]

Trickz I gave up divinity to get all my 8 first characters finish Frostbite tundra, mainly for the achievement but also lots of levels for those who are under levelled, was this a good idea?

[sharp igloo]

Im still running 1 ES 2 bubos and its not really causing me any problems

[obtuse rover]

You'll eventually need them at 500 for an equinox dream

[torn maple]

btw does anyone know if the liquid regen/capacity has a max level?

[dapper prism]

It doesn't

[last pecan]

Ah, that's why. Makes sense

[torn maple]

ok ill stop at 100 then

[obtuse rover]

Never stop, ideally.

[torn maple]

god it's so bittersweet that we only got 1 draconic cauldron

[torn maple]

rather be spending my liquids on class exp %

[obtuse rover]

Some people have more, from previous offerings.
It's rough if this is your first, though.

[sharp igloo]

Once you max the liquid overflow equinox thing, your cap/rate will go up a ton if you active bubo overnight. Mine went from like 50 to 150 in 2 days

[torn maple]

that's a good shout

[obtuse rover]

Gotcha. Ideally you level GT while you're at the computer and let the overflow level the cauldrons while you're afk/sleeping.

[torn maple]

yeah it's just that the previous ones were ages ago innit

[ruby yarrow]

Yes or no?

[sharp igloo]

If you do that, make sure you disconnect from the lab node that raises liquid cap and lowers rate

[torn maple]

yeah i did that the second i finished maxing that equinox bonus

i only rlly have a few dreams left but they're all insane

[burnt sail]

Give people more than 3 minutes to respond to you.

[torn maple]

i can't get past wave 120 of citric conflict and i can't get 1B sample

[dapper prism]

Frost wont really give much levels compared to suggma o.o
Getting quests fone for the daily keys on 10/10 for w1-3 bosses never hurts though, although i feel your kph with your alch may be 2 low, i also hope you have lab 2x kills active

[torn maple]

actually if someone can give me tips on the best way to get a 1B sample I'd love you

[autumn wasp]

alchemy

[dapper prism]

get your bubbles to 90% effy

[obtuse rover]

Mostly just generic sampling advice, but harder.

[torn maple]

which skill is best to use?

[autumn wasp]

oak logs

[torn maple]

got it. ive been doing copper

[autumn wasp]

every chopping bubble

[dapper prism]

oaks should always be around 30-60% higher than copper samples

[obtuse rover]

I mean, just print as large of a sample as you can of both oak and copper.

[dapper prism]

if stuff is leveled similar

[sharp igloo]

I was hoping for a 1 bil sample today. Only managed to get 812m tho

[torn maple]

cool wish me luck on oak logs

[sharp igloo]

Good luck man!

[ruby yarrow]

I have bear to do 2x

[summer glacier]

does vman need to have 1 level higher than 2nd to give efficiency bonus or same level with higher xp or would same level work?

[dapper prism]

That just means you're missing nobi on half the people then, would be more efficient to do them in cycles

[dapper prism]

higher xp

[ruby yarrow]

But it will give a lot of levels for those who are 80- and in order to defeat suggmas, my characters need to be at least stronger since my alchemy sucks

[clear quartz]

im looking forward to doot just for the sample cycles

[slow star]

Wh-

[autumn wasp]

u have food equipped?

[ruby yarrow]

Yes, but the kph is way to low + I still need to finish the merit achievement and world bosses key quests

And accuracy sucks

[dapper prism]

1 suggma with active xp card would probably still net you like 1000x more xp than w3

[ruby yarrow]

It’s not only for the xp

[dapper prism]

true

[sharp igloo]

Kill a few suggmas active on your level 80 guys, get them to like 100 something, then go back to w3

[ruby yarrow]

I wish I could use candies in w5, not for the portals but just for the exp

[dapper prism]

and use nobi while pushing

AFK xp sucks though compared to active xp

[clear quartz]

would be nice for the skilling nodes

[ruby yarrow]

Like you mentioned earlier, crystals right (and money)? Or other factors

[dapper prism]

My Afk info for level 300 to 352 would have been 35 days (840+ hours), for active it took 4h 8min. (210x faster active vs afk)

[obtuse rover]

Active exp cards and star sign are multiplicative with normal EXP bonuses

[dapper prism]

and active xp card is a direct multiplier on your class xp, not additive

[ruby yarrow]

Oh yeah I forgot that

[summer glacier]

I see no difference in efficiency everytime I level it up are my stamps bad or skill bad

[dapper prism]

wait a minute.. this is multi?
https://i.imgur.com/PKAIHla.png

[ruby yarrow]

But my characters would die way too easily active on suggmas

[obtuse rover]

No sorry, there's a star sign that is explicitly active exp

[torn maple]

alchemy is the best way to level this i think?

[sharp igloo]

Active at floms then

[dapper prism]

oh right
https://i.imgur.com/O1TVy4N.png

Idk why i forgot that one even existed..

[ruby yarrow]

Most of my characters aren’t there

[dapper prism]

I should definetely toss that on my bb for crystal island

[ruby yarrow]

Also should I grind for chizoar armor at the same time as alch, stamps, etc.? Or hard focus on alchemy and such and ignore the armor?

[sharp igloo]

If its easy for you to make chiz then I would, if it's gonna take a long time, then maybe wait for troll since chiz doesnt build into anything. Unless you really need the defense, which it sounds like you might

[sinful aurora]

You cant 'hard focus' on alchemy. You need atoms. And for that you need samples. Which require eff.

[ruby yarrow]

It wouldn’t be easy for me to craft it, but I mainly need health and not defense

[ruby yarrow]

I’m not at atoms yet

[sharp igloo]

Do you have the hp PO box maxed?

[ruby yarrow]

But what I meant is instead of printing for alchemy mats should I just print for chizoars armor mats

[ruby yarrow]

No

My P.O. Boxes are low

I really don’t have a lot

[torn maple]

how do i get better purple cogs? i always get crap broken ones

[sinful aurora]

Rng

[sharp igloo]

Do you play active overnight? You should get a lot of pens doing that

[ruby yarrow]

Yes, but either my DR is too low, or I just don’t get enough kills

I have a low drop rate

[sinful aurora]

Do you have chocolate chip?

[ruby yarrow]

No

I’m just early w5 and under levelled

[sharp igloo]

Id just focus on getting all of your guys to floms for now, print stuff you need for alchemy, and try to raise your fmj as much as you can so that you can survive activing suggmas without having to make chiz armor

Then make troll armor

[ruby yarrow]

So completely skip chiz?

[slender sandal]

yep

[sharp igloo]

I mean its hard to say. I made chiz for all my guys, but that was cause w4 wasnt out yet. Idk what I would do if I had access to w4/w5 before making chiz

[last pecan]

How long did it take you to mke your first troll helmet?

I havent had a single gold thread drop....

[sinful aurora]

You can es active them

[dapper prism]

Even with w5 rushing (me) i still made 10x chizoar sets

[sinful aurora]

Void salts are the bigger issue, not threads

[dapper prism]

Chizoar is so easy to grind out, and you're timegated hard by nullo salts

[sharp igloo]

I don't remember. I was eclipsing floms last night though and got like 13 threads after 100-150 1 hour time candies

[sharp igloo]

Oh yeah that's fair, I forgot how long it takes to get enough nullo for troll

[ruby yarrow]

Okay, but should I still get to the end of tundra with my first 8 characters before getting my characters on w4 pushing to get to the end?

[sinful aurora]

Es can get you the 30 threads in 24h.

[last pecan]

Yeah the salts are easily the worst part

[ruby yarrow]

It won’t be easy for me

[last pecan]

I'd say try and get your elite classes ASAP, the bonuses from the skills are insanely good

[ruby yarrow]

There’s only 3 I’m missing

It’s a lot I know

That’s without taking in count Vman

[last pecan]

yeah V-man is a big grind, I only unlocked it last week after spending about a month in world 5

[ruby yarrow]

I’m trying to get a million on the firsts few mobs in blunder hills

[last pecan]

I think it goes without saying but do it on blood bezerker

so you get the chows while you're at it

[ruby yarrow]

With active ES, at the same time of getting mats

And my bb kph sucks

I don’t know why my ES has so much more than all my other classes

[last pecan]

the portals really speed things up

[ruby yarrow]

Even in the afk gains it’s so much more

Like maybe 10x better than my second best

Literally

Also does portals count for deathnote?

[last pecan]

yes

[ruby yarrow]

oh that’s why

[sharp igloo]

Does your ES have a higher kill per kill talent than your other guys? That one makes a pretty big difference

[ruby yarrow]

Not really

I only have one time 1000 WIS for it anyways

[sharp igloo]

10x more kills seems weird then unless your ES just has way more damage than everyone else

[ruby yarrow]

I’ll check out what my DK is, he only has 3x less damage

He’s my second best

He used to be my main for w4

[ruby yarrow]

The last time I checked he had 5k

[sharp igloo]

5k what?

[ruby yarrow]

It’s really low

Kph

[sharp igloo]

And your es has 50k?

[leaden karma]

is this worth it?

[last pecan]

I think it is

you get a ton of candy and a small rebate on the gems you spend

[last pecan]

That's the result from two packs

[sharp igloo]

How many gems did you get back?

[last pecan]

~20-30 each time

[sharp igloo]

Not too bad. I need more candies lol

[last pecan]

the first one I did I got 50 back XD

[ruby yarrow]

Well 13k now

Still not much

[sharp igloo]

What does your es have?

[last pecan]

that's with all the proper card sets, constellations and bonuses?

plus level discrepancy?

[ruby yarrow]

Most of it

I haven’t unlocked w2 constellations yet, should I?

[dapper prism]

loot from 1k treat for 2 people:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[clear quartz]

i guess ill have to buy those here soon before event goes kaput

[summer basalt]

Is there a list of upgrades to increase max level of talent books? I'm sitting at 245 and unsure where I could bump it.

[dapper prism]

245 is max book checkout

[bright current]

[dapper prism]

rest is stuff like div bear, es family, slug companion, symbols talent

[summer basalt]

Oh sad day. Thanks 🙂

[clear quartz]

i need slugga and doot :c

[dapper prism]

with everything you'll get to around 307-312ish depending on ES lvl

[raven fog]

Guys did yall get the bullseye statues to onyx

[raven fog]

How long did it take

[dapper prism]

see pins

depends on stats, looks like i was around 20h active

[eternal dove]

30/75 so far.. one day..

[vapid cove]

not yet

darnnn

I just got my #2 lucky lad earlier but you're going nuts out there

[eternal dove]

ehh i could be getting more tbh. i had it on my filter list for the longest time before equinox

[dapper prism]

Lads get really annoying later on

Some nights if i get too many i run out of space on my dk and end up laggin/desync when i get like around 7ish or so

[eternal dove]

yeah im letting my 2nd bubo that im grinding to 500 carry all mine atm bc god the storage

[dapper prism]

Always use 2nd es/sb/dk for storage xD

[vapid cove]

yeah im grinding my bubo right now for the nice gains in alchemy

[eternal dove]

ive got 2 bbs dks and bubos

[blissful topaz]

If I have king doot. I should have all divinities active, so everyone is in the lab. But goharut says they should be at the alter as well, but the info tab says 0 divinity per hour

[dapper prism]

World 5 Doot companion owners:
https://imgur.com/kXkZfj9

W5 is the ideal time to backtrack and do stuff like this to name a few:
https://imgur.com/c1RhPXA

[eternal dove]

trickz always got those images on deck

[obtuse rover]

Goat god div specifically only applies to players physically in the tube.

Bear god gives a different type of connection to the lab that doesn't count as being physically in the tube. This different type of connection is denoted with the blue icon next to the character's face in the lab interface.

[eternal dove]

trickz its only been what a day..?

[dapper prism]

I dont want to use mine anymore, all t6
https://i.imgur.com/IajyEsp.png

[obtuse rover]

The chem loop is eternal, the repetitive strain injury is priceless.

[eternal dove]

i literally just harvested all 20 t5s yesterday and now im back with this many already????

[dapper prism]

Yeh, colt pressed the "harvest all" button

[eternal dove]

not the first time and wont be the last

[dapper prism]

i need to do more chems.. just got back to 10k+ min
https://i.imgur.com/SvNKAi0.png

[eternal dove]

i mean hey what did you expect me to do??? that dude said "no balls"

[dapper prism]

but really not bothered much

[dapper prism]

right xd

[eternal dove]

he wasnt prepared for the fact that i was already primed and ready with my mouse already over the harvest all button when i posted that pic

@dapper prism how many ball joes do you have by chance?

11 printer go brr procs

[icy jewel]

show off

i hope your screen indefinitely stays the sames for eternity

i also get doot tomorrow so prepare everyone

[eternal dove]

all he has to do for that is go es overnight

[icy jewel]

anyone wanna do some w3 dungeon runs

need cards + jobs spam

just feel more motivated with a homie

[eternal dove]

perhaps..... im doing some of my 100 nm troll kills rn tho

woo finally got troll wings

[icy jewel]

i dont work tomorrow since i worked all day

[eternal dove]

+1 slab

[icy jewel]

bro for the slab 100

[eternal dove]

lemme check where my slab is rn

[icy jewel]

ill ask ya in a few gonna grab a quick snack

im at like 1.4k or 1.5 i forgot

[eternal dove]

1396 atm

[icy jewel]

i knocked out like 100 obols this week that was MASSIVE

[eternal dove]

i only have a couple obols left. card ofc being one of them

[icy jewel]

thats a gem shop one right

im saving gems rn for w6 so imma let it slide for now

[eternal dove]

alch shop

[icy jewel]

oh i never got it

im 100% sure

[eternal dove]

its rare. i think its like 2% for bronze from the highest obol set in alch?

[icy jewel]

im at nearly 8k gems

i feel like i should continue stacking them for w6

i dont wanna buy anything rn

[icy jewel]

explains why i dont have it

[eternal dove]

other than that i need sparkle mining and event obols

[icy jewel]

i have all event obols

wish i had more of ice dude

just have 1 sadge

[eternal dove]

this is all im missing according to my ie

i havent had ANY drop from random events

[icy jewel]

a few dungeon runs with me thats +2

events youre just unlucky

[eternal dove]

i am indeed

[icy jewel]

same with dice

also get good at fishing

other than that youre 100% rest i dont think you can even get...

[eternal dove]

yeah i just dont do attempts that often lmaoo

[icy jewel]

nah thats a nasty slab

its literally looks like mine - 5 items

[eternal dove]

i actually have one of the arcade stamps but it isnt counted for slab....

[icy jewel]

looks good tho bro

thats nasty

i hit 200 billion today so im like super pumped

[eternal dove]

idk if slab is up to date on ie or not with most recent updates

damage?

[icy jewel]

yeah i should check too new helmets like bloque etc

yeah

you know what 200 billion means?

🤏

alchemy slackin

[eternal dove]

i only have like 2 of the new helmets. only gob and carrot..

[icy jewel]

i want my damage to say "T" at the end

like some of yall sadge 😦

[ashen marsh]

which class is this one good for?

[icy jewel]

honestly, all of them

if you got the points

and the dps

[ashen marsh]

how about this one?

[icy jewel]

same with tipper

[eternal dove]

es or bubo probably benefits the most

[ashen marsh]

yeah thinking bout bubo

same w/ tipper?

[icy jewel]

trust me farming exp on tremurs and coins is a must

[eternal dove]

well whats your cooking level on bubo

[icy jewel]

youll go thru your coin stash on stamps like nobody's business bro

also if you have sheepie you should have massive balloons

so get everyone to 30 cooking with green balloon spam

[signal osprey]

The stamp gods demand a monetary sacrifice

[eternal dove]

if doot you should have a lot of divinity pearls

[ashen marsh]

3 lmao but i can lvl it up

[icy jewel]

just facts bro

[eternal dove]

small xp balloons just spam them

[ashen marsh]

ahhh okay 30 cooking?

[icy jewel]

yeah id use your green bloons from sheepie on that

[ashen marsh]

yeah bout to do that rn

[eternal dove]

if you have a lot of divinity pearls you can get cooking up to 50

[icy jewel]

then as much more

just saying about lv 30 is so everyone can get it

after that its super diminishing returns per bloon

[eternal dove]

yeah about 30 with balloons then pearl to 50 id say

[icy jewel]

^ agreed

[ripe merlin]

Guys why even I don't access in game cuz I have to update but I check in play store there is no update press.

[icy jewel]

then use the rest of the bloons on other skills for your guys

[eternal dove]

everyone of my chars are at least 50 cooking

[ripe merlin]

Why guys

[icy jewel]

same i hit 60 breeding btw and since ive never had to splice

that god damn failsafe upgrade is so broken

[eternal dove]

yeah but splicing still is pretty good to do

[ashen marsh]

i just have my guys on lab right now

[eternal dove]

ive already got all the pets unlocked

[icy jewel]

no problem with that i gotta do the same for like 5 of em ( lvl 73) so close

i have everyone on bear rn im grinding levels and tremurs since work super picked up for me

and dont have to log in

[daring ravine]

tipper is good as its base and not multi

[ashen marsh]

if I have this maxed on my 2nd tab for my bubo. It only takes affect if I switch to my 2nd skill tab right?

[icy jewel]

get ur gmush kills up

its insane

i hit 2 billion and my coin production has send me like 100% + in dps gains

[eternal dove]

well time to see if vman can complete royal worm quest or if im softlocked out of finishing on vman

[icy jewel]

thru stamps

i can finally pay for

[ashen marsh]

which char should I get my gmush kills up with?

[icy jewel]

im assuming you have vman right?

i actually farmed gmush kills on my entire account for aweek ( not sure if thats actually the best play i just felt like i needed to )

hit 2 billion and back to tremors

[thick pike]

Honestly I just left my extra sb and dk on mushrooms for like a month

[icy jewel]

getting godshard coins daily feels so good

[weary granite]

is bog log just rng or can you see what the cards are before they flip? can't tell if I'm just missing them or not

[icy jewel]

i also want to leave my archers there indefenitely so badly so i can green stack bars @thick pike

but 450 -> 500 on levels is one hell of a grind

[eternal dove]

oh no.......

[thick pike]

Ye lmao

[ashen marsh]

yes I got vman

[icy jewel]

its a personal play IMO

[icy jewel]

i find this game easier to focus on ONE thing at a time

[eternal dove]

vman is locked out of quest....

[icy jewel]

pick a goal for a week

[ashen marsh]

daum, so all characters in gmush?

[icy jewel]

i did personally may not have been smartest move

but i was so behind on stamps my account needed it and the coin production

like i said i went up 100% in dps after being able to afford stamps in 2 weeks

for me, worth it, for you i dont know

someone like gard would probably have a more efficient idea for you to do

i still learn new things on this game literally hourly.

[ashen marsh]

awesome thanks for the advice

!!

[eternal dove]

guess its time to keep all my characters at stilts for more keys to do the quest on another character....

[lost kestrel]

weeellll i made an order of magnitude calculation when embarking upon nightmare kruk for the first time

[ashen marsh]

my bubo is lv 323.
is it best to leave him at flombeiges?

[eternal dove]

@icy jewel im down to do w3 dung with you now if youd still like

[wheat kiln]

Kill a lava skull on 2 diferent cahacter .

What champion is for this ?

[ashen marsh]

can I join?

[eternal dove]

thats for him to decide it was his idea in the first place 🙂

[lost kestrel]

i've had the best luck on sb and es

depends if you can kill the plunderous mobs and how big your wormhole can get

[wheat kiln]

@lost kestrel Thank you

[lost kestrel]

you don't wanna do it on dk because you don't wanna kill all the mobs

just almost all of them so the skulls can spread

[dapper prism]

Tipper is a lot better than coins for chow

Just baloon and divine pearl your cooking to ~lvl 50

[ashen marsh]

okay sounds good. I need some more boss cards

[ashen marsh]

yes, about to do that rn

[eternal dove]

trickz how many ball joes you got???

need to have a vman build that doesnt have enough points into eclipse

the vman eclipse talent that buffs other character talents

all good

[ashen marsh]

best class to get afk kills with? lol

[vapid cove]

just throw like 3-4 in there

it makes it faster

[zealous niche]

All

Simultaneously

[icy jewel]

@eternal dove yeah give me like 5 mins

[eternal dove]

yay

[icy jewel]

you wanna hit boss 3 if one of us rolls a foal as well?

i need 10 cards for that 40% dungeon dps

4*

[eternal dove]

yeah im rank 51 so i have good chance

[icy jewel]

fuckin dope

lets get it i need that xp

[eternal dove]

need to get 60k credits for weapon limit upgrade

[icy jewel]

im r 49 probably 10 runs ish with u ill hit 50

[eternal dove]

then more slab slots

[ashen marsh]

im r51 too

[icy jewel]

i didnt do weekly dungeons when i started or id be 51

[eternal dove]

just lemme know what sever and world to hop to

[icy jewel]

didnt realize i couldve just used up my weeklies nobody gives a shit about ur rank

kk lemme grab a snack and ill ping u

[eternal dove]

no rush

[ashen marsh]

what do you guys advice to use for lvl30+ cooking?

just balloons?

[eternal dove]

yes

[icy jewel]

bloons to 30 ( diminish returns after) use spare bloons on crafts outside of cooking

focus on cooking first for coins IMO

fishing second since it takes the longest? but free talent points

[ashen marsh]

yeah im 37 cooking rn

[icy jewel]

if you have sheepie then yeah use all ur chars to get to 30 on each craft

cooking first cuz coins are worth it

since u have that talent star unlocked

thats my 2 cents

[ashen marsh]

on it, yes I have sheepie pet as well

[icy jewel]

after everyone hits 30 on every craft, just bloon as you feel

yeah cuz the free big yellow bubble level up gives them

[ashen marsh]

ahh okay so 30 on every craft is essential?

[icy jewel]

why not? more talent points

feels gains man

[ashen marsh]

sweet

[icy jewel]

bloons just get terrible after level 30 thats why i

stop there

[ashen marsh]

yeah youre right

[icy jewel]

after that? use them on whatever u want

[ashen marsh]

it is terrible

[icy jewel]

just saying get everyone to 30 on bloons spam on the random stuff u can

[eternal dove]

i personally used some more bloons on vman cooking just so he could stay rank one for a considerable amount of time

[icy jewel]

you know right man of hand only works on world 3 skills and below

fyi

[eternal dove]

oh didnt realize. just figured it was with any skill dealing with efficiency

[icy jewel]

game is super informative lol

yeah only w3 skills and below....

but still that money

❤️

[eternal dove]

oh well at least i tried to at least cover my bases in case

[icy jewel]

i feel that with two ES its still brutal to keep him higher for harvesting souls

at least youre doing the right thing ❤️

i said bm kekw

[eternal dove]

its hard to keep vman ahead in worship when i forget to use his charge before using syphon on es

[lost kestrel]

y'all care to have another in your dungeon fun times? i'm only r44 so if i'd hold you back i won't be offended

[icy jewel]

gonna do world 3 im free in like 5 mins

[eternal dove]

im cool with whoever

[icy jewel]

just got another email to send out

[eternal dove]

WOO EMAILS

[icy jewel]

let me focus up join us absolutely

and were focusing job achives and then final boss farm for card

[lost kestrel]

aight sweet

[icy jewel]

if you havent cleared final boss in w3 before

its a massive gain

[eternal dove]

w3 dung clears is ez

[lost kestrel]

i may have to bounce out unexpectedly because i'm at work (although it's unlikely because the weather is bad 🚁 🚁 )

[icy jewel]

5% dps is massive

eh just auto on if one of us rolls a foal its ez pz

just farming jobs

i want that 5% xp bonus

[eternal dove]

im missing the same achievment only too. how many jobs you at

[icy jewel]

478

[eternal dove]

im only 245

[lost kestrel]

ahaha sounds good. just don't wait up for me if i'm not active when y'all go to restart but otherwise i'm in.

[icy jewel]

i average like 50 a run

[eternal dove]

i dont pay attention to how many i do a run. i just do them and whatever i get i get

[icy jewel]

yeah then after we wont ever do it again kek

[ashen marsh]

let me know when you guys do dung

I wanna join pl0x

[eternal dove]

❤️

[lost kestrel]

i have killed the third boss but i only have 127 jobs because i've neglected dungeon badly

[icy jewel]

@eternal dove @lost kestrel @ashen marsh salt 7

[ashen marsh]

okay two min

[hexed elm]

im having trouble calculating how much salt ingredients i need per rank, how exactly are costs calculated? i looked on the wiki and saw the base cost for red salt is 10 green mush spores. my current red salt rank is 8 and its using 3,740 spores but the wiki says the cost multiplier is 22x at rank 8, why does it cost 3740 and not 220?

[icy jewel]

trust me just rank up dont collect salts ever only collect on rank up

you will level with the mats it costs

[hexed elm]

i know i am working on it

[icy jewel]

dont worry about that

at all

trust

[hexed elm]

lol listen for a sec

[icy jewel]

worrying about the wrong things

[hexed elm]

i am trying to see if my current 3d printer output is enough to handle ranking up

[icy jewel]

you have salt merit

[hexed elm]

yes

[icy jewel]

its fine just rank up

[lost kestrel]

here i am

[icy jewel]

just trust me its all bs.

[hexed elm]

not sure if youre trolling

[icy jewel]

we had a huge session in chat earlier

about this

dont listen to that refinery chart etc

just rank up only

it needs to be deleted from tips and tricks 100%

[icy jewel]

im legit not trolling

youre fine just rank up

[hexed elm]

why would i want to lose efficiency if i cant keep up with the input?

[icy jewel]

you arent

[ashen marsh]

inv plz

[icy jewel]

theres other sweaty people here that will back me up

[eternal dove]

always need more salts

[inland wadi]

4 me only rank up too

In long term its better to jzust rank up only to get more salts per cycle later and keep up it what u could get by it

Ofc if u need to upgrade gear or sth else, get salts into your inv to have some spare if needed

[hexed elm]

i have enough to get rank 11 and down from red salts so im good

[ashen marsh]

hold on

[ashen marsh]

i dc

imb ack

[vapid cove]

fml I just did wave 50 on oranges w5 with just boulders

The boulder

[dull lance]

How do I unlock blob criter?

[granite grove]

w4 chocies map and finish all quests from the npc there

[dull lance]

Ok thanks

[storm kelp]

does the equinox bar rate matter for later unlocks or should I just keep unlocking stuff?

[icy jewel]

MASSIVE GAINS thank you @lime mist @lost kestrel @eternal dove for the runs

[storm kelp]

upgrading I mean*

[lost kestrel]

gg thanks y'all 💜

[ashen marsh]

GG

[icy jewel]

got 120 more and +2 cards closer

[lost kestrel]

nice

[icy jewel]

and if you didnt get that last boss done before that 5% dps increase is massive

i just want that xp that buff will feel so good

[storm kelp]

sorry what did i miss? what is the strat for that? just keep pushing challenges in dungeon 3?

[icy jewel]

we just were working "jobs" its a 5% exp buff achievement

but also last boss is a nasty card so we were also farming it

[storm kelp]

oh is it better in a group?

[icy jewel]

its more fun in a group, easier solo in a group you need good players

ez if everyone is good

[storm kelp]

don't you finish tasks faster ina group?

or is it easier solo since the boss is easier then?

I will probably do it solo either way... 😦

[icy jewel]

individual

its just more fun playing with other people

[vapid cove]

Every time I see the bubos aura spell I see it as the old windows media player

something is wrong with me lol

[storm kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/the-angry-birds-movie-red-all-by-myself-by-myself-alone-gif-22315105

[drifting breach]

Got it in a 3 bottle of wind spend🌚

Sorry

[raven fog]

Guys what matter fpr bubbo more the dr prayer or the couns for charon

[icy jewel]

play with us

that 5% dps buff is massive could carry u there if u have a key

[sharp igloo]

Id say level the liquid one and the wizard tower one before the scimitar and killroy ones, and then unlock the next one which is the nugget one, and max that next.

[storm kelp]

ok what server you on?

[icy jewel]

i gotta hit the hay but tomorrow or whenever dm or ping me and ill clear ya

[sinful aurora]

Dr prayer reduces your multikill and thus your cranium cooking. Dont use it it's a trap.

[storm kelp]

ok cool, do I need the horn to do the 3rd boss alone? I have done the first 2

just tried now without horn and got halfway on third boss

[icy jewel]

i recommend foal solo if you need to clear last boss

[storm kelp]

cool thanks

[raven fog]

Wdym i can still one shot with it

[icy jewel]

otherwise only white and lots of grumblo

[raven fog]

Multikill effects crumium cooking

[storm kelp]

got this at least for my vman runs

[sinful aurora]

Cranium cooking gets multiplied with your multikill. Less multikill = less seconds gained per kill.

[raven fog]

So best farm at like gmush

Why farm at oranges

[icy jewel]

frogs > mush

oranges = 1 stationary map

[sinful aurora]

No cause not enough density. Plus farming at worms earns cash, which bubo is also the best character at.

[raven fog]

For Money and xp

[icy jewel]

aura clocks all oranges

[raven fog]

Huh so if i want grind time i should go w1

[icy jewel]

and the money+xp why not

[sinful aurora]

Worms = more cash. Oranges = more cranium.

[raven fog]

But if i want money xp and everything else i farm at w5

[icy jewel]

if you can 1 shot always wurms

[raven fog]

But u said more is at more multikill

[sharp igloo]

Wurms are best for money and CC

[icy jewel]

then oranges

then other worlds

[raven fog]

I multikill kill everywhere but he said less multikill is bad for crimum

[icy jewel]

eh if youre at wurms and can 1 shot for craiunum do that actively

[sinful aurora]

The w5 maps mob density are still the best though, even if you have less multikill.

[icy jewel]

the coin gains op

[raven fog]

I can

So what is best for crimum oranges or wurms

[icy jewel]

tremors then bro unlock those w 6 bubbles and then grind some alchemy

[raven fog]

And if it’s wurms than wurms are best for everything

If u ine shot

[icy jewel]

i do tremurs because coins for stamps

[sinful aurora]

Objectively oranges. But worms also get you cash and exp. So generally worms.

[raven fog]

I want to get all chars level 500

[icy jewel]

oranges are probably better in terms of kills?

if youre pushing 500 tremurs then

[raven fog]

Yah oranges are slightly better but u will miss out on money and xp

[icy jewel]

id still grind wurms?

thats my 2 cents

stamps op in late game

[sinful aurora]

And the costs get so high

[icy jewel]

i went up 100% in dps in 2 weeks thru coins on stamps upgrades

[sinful aurora]

Nice job!

[icy jewel]

so im a bit biased rn, but hit that threshold of eh

no gains rn

[sinful aurora]

Nah im in total agreement with your bias 😛

[icy jewel]

focusing on other things

[sharp igloo]

For real lol. I think some people have like 70-75 on that stamp.

[icy jewel]

i get a god shard coin like 10 a week rn

its so insane

[sinful aurora]

And i struggled to find 24 godshard for 170? multitool

[icy jewel]

that stupid .1% tho gains LOL

you know we all strive for it lol

[sinful aurora]

It's probably easier to get than you believe. If you run the cash prayer and cash cards.

[storm kelp]

I did it finally lol

[warped grail]

gg

[sinful aurora]

With doubled crystal spawn odds ofc

[icy jewel]

hmm ill try this

[icy jewel]

ok doot enjoyer

imagine clutching on doot

wow

[storm kelp]

I got it 2 days ago after emptying my wallet

[icy jewel]

( im just salty bro just fyi)

[storm kelp]

don't hate the guy who hates himself

[sharp igloo]

Yeah, you can raise it quick. Like a few months ago I had never had more than 1 or 2 dreadlo at a time, but then I started murdering a bunch of gmush and now I'm getting 1 godshard every second or 2.

[icy jewel]

quickly changing prayers as we talk about this

i might get more gains

[sharp igloo]

Definitely max jawbreaker if you havent yet.

[icy jewel]

ummm imma run it on tremurs thanks

not maxed but all i can afford rn

( gotta keep my green stack)

[sinful aurora]

Dont forget even though you want coins cards, the ones you double are still crystal spawns since they drop 25x coins.

[sharp igloo]

Fair, gotta respect the greenstack. Use a bubo tho with stingers, double the w4 genie and poop cards, use money and DR cards in between, and use a chocolate chip on wurms active overnight, and you'll make bank lol

[sinful aurora]

Also getting your eclipse skull on gmush helps since coins dropped are multiplied by how many you killed.

[icy jewel]

good tips thanks

[sinful aurora]

Dr increases coins drops at every odd number (7x 9x 11x 13x 15x etc)

If you cant reach next cap dont bother.

[tacit tulip]

Those are odd numbers

[sinful aurora]

Uhhh yes, oops

[icy jewel]

doesnt alchemy work like that as well

the upgrades to 170 is the same as 169

lava is a f'ing troll

[storm kelp]

is there a link or page somewhere that summarizes all the bonuses you get from gmush stuff?

[icy jewel]

no its legit a world 4 lab thing

and killsheet from w3

theres probably 20x other crap i overlooked

[sharp igloo]

You get 3% more money per 1million gmush kills.

[storm kelp]

from what again?

[sinful aurora]

And their mats improve 3 alch bubbles (number 2 of the first 3 cauldrons)

[sharp igloo]

A lab node

[icy jewel]

w4, lab

[storm kelp]

ahh yes thanks

I was thinking chips first

don't have them all

[icy jewel]

so many things in this game there isnt a dumb question

[storm kelp]

that's my belief but there's one guy in here who doesn't agree xD

[icy jewel]

ill give a response and 4 other people will comment with a notation i missed

pretty wild

[storm kelp]

better than wikipedia

but I actually enjoy the wiki for the basics

like for breeding pets I haven't unlocked, items I have seen on others but don't know where it's from etc

[sinful aurora]

Thats a good thing though isnt it?

[storm kelp]

that is what he meant I believe

[azure relic]

I just reached w5 and i got king doot pet, do i need to link to every god to unlock the effects if i got king doot or how does it work, when do i get the bonuses?

[lost kestrel]

i am at the point in the game now where my early mistakes and avoiding this community is coming back to bite me - the wiki only goes so far

[sinful aurora]

Nah just level all yoyr characters to div lv 2.

[lost kestrel]

throw everyone in divinity to 2

the only one you have to link is the tiger i think

[azure relic]

okey so I dont link at all and get all bonuses when i reach div 2 on that char?

[lost kestrel]

effectively yeah, although the bonuses are levelable with w5 skilling stuff and coins

you'll see it

[azure relic]

allright thanks for the info!

[tacit tulip]

yeah, it activates when the character that is active is level 2+ in divinity

there's benefits to progressing divinity even with doot but you can delay doing this until you get some multipliers going

[sharp igloo]

Don't feel bad, I've been playing since shortly after the game released, and I didn't even start active playing until after w5 came out lol

[lost kestrel]

what sakori said

[storm kelp]

yes, that is only a lookup, not a strategy guide

[sinful aurora]

Not mistakes. Learning opportunities.

[lost kestrel]

ahaha @sharp igloo i uh just figured out how to do cranium cooking effectively like .... 3 weeks ago? somehow managed to unlock up to fire spirits without using alchemy in any useful capacity

[tacit tulip]

That happens a lot

[lost kestrel]

i have a physician i work with who calls dumb people "experiential learners" which hurts me a little because i definitely might fall into that category

[tacit tulip]

Gonna be interesting to see how many people we get brute forcing to w6 with candy

[sharp igloo]

Lol yeah, I learn new shit every time I come on here. There's just so much stuff in this game lol

[sinful aurora]

Nobody playing this game isnt constantly making mistakes. Theres too much to think about so it's only natural.

[lost kestrel]

and i may admit i still dont 100% have the hang of vman, but i think that's partially because i have to get the rest of the w3/w4 situation on a little better footing and then he'll fly

[storm kelp]

good strat for "knock on wood", defeat acorn assault with 4 towers? I think mine are high enough now to just place some stuff and do it but maybe I am wrong?

[lost kestrel]

i literally just threw stuff down

[storm kelp]

nice ok

here we go xD

[sinful aurora]

For example did you know nobisect works when speedrunning?

[sharp igloo]

1 void, one kraken, one poison, one thunder maybe lol? I have no idea honestly, but that seems solid 😂

[lost kestrel]

i think i did stormcaller, poison, party starter, void

[lost kestrel]

i don't think i did know that lol

[sinful aurora]

Theres so many secrets to speedrunning, most ive randomly learned from different people here.

[burnt veldt]

Can you share some of them, im thinking about doing a new one soon

[sinful aurora]

Sure here's 2:

If you click your start speedrun skill while in front of nightmare troll and immediately click auto so your character will fist him, he will count as 3 portals even if you didnt get ported to gmush yet.

[lost kestrel]

WAT SRSLY

[sinful aurora]

(Undooted) You can start the run with arctis to get more time and then quickly run to w5 town, change god to nobisect, keep those extra seconds and get the double kill benefit of nobisect.

It costs you one weekly god swap, but it helps a bit.

[burnt veldt]

I have doot, so that wont be need, but tip #1 was clever

[sinful aurora]

I had the same reaction when i read someone say that last week.

[warped grail]

LOL didnt know, but you have to kill it with that punch right?

[sinful aurora]

One shot or lose your keys. You also dont get loot.

[burnt veldt]

Wait, you have to be in the troll's room ?

cool cool, oneshotting him wont be a problem, my Vman is 455

[storm kelp]

ok thanks, knock on wood was easy. just used 2 boulders, stormcaller and poison. probably not close to the best setup but was not hard

[sharp igloo]

Was that an equinox thing or an achievement?

[sinful aurora]

It helps a lot specially since it's not just 3 extra portals but you also start w1 with the extra respawn rate.

[sinful aurora]

Achievement

[storm kelp]

W3 yes

now I need minecart master in W1 achievement. I am so bad at that minigame

I like the catching one the best since it's about rhythm not sheer chaos

[lost kestrel]

alright y'all someone motivate me to do work for the next 20-ish minutes so i don't get fired

[storm kelp]

I am in same boat 🙂

[sharp igloo]

I never did that one either lol, what does it even give?

[storm kelp]

just want it lol

25 gems and 2 4-hour candies 😮

[sharp igloo]

Fair enough lol.

[sinful aurora]

Lets all collectively ignore mimioctopus for the next half hour. Dont answer him/her.

[storm kelp]

who?

[sharp igloo]

Lol do your fuckin work 😂 I just procrastinated mine until about 3 hours ago too, but finishing it tonight is way better than losing your source of income lol

[sinful aurora]

Yeah need that income to pay for doot / repay your mortgage after getting doot.

[sharp igloo]

Hahaha for real!

[ashen marsh]

which god is good for active bubo?

[austere path]

Does anyone have tips,how to increase cooking eff to m+?

I just got 800k+ cooking eff

I See a day ago,someone got cooking eff 8m+

How it make sense

[sharp igloo]

Are you going for deathnote, money, exp, mats, keys, alch, or what?

[ashen marsh]

im just killing flombeiges

not sure what to go for tbh lol

[sharp igloo]

Whats your multitool stamp level?

[sharp igloo]

Then idk lol, kinda up to you in that case.

[austere path]

Wait,ill take a look for a moment

[warped grail]

i feel slow, i only get like 10M of coconuts or like that every hour with my ES, i feel like i should get 100M of things really fast

im getting the bubble to more than 100 M to upgrade it with atoms

[sharp igloo]

You mean 10mil printer samples?

[warped grail]

no, i mean active farming, i wish i got like 1M samples lol of items, i only reached 12M on cooper sample

[sharp igloo]

Oh, you might actually get more mats from them afk than active. I'm not 100% sure on that, but more than 50% lol

[warped grail]

more than active with a ES? didntk now

[mint remnant]

at what lvl of this should i deposit 80k kachow statues?

[sharp igloo]

Active DK and ES are great for statues and rare items, but for regular mats, you're just gonna end up filling your inventory and lagging all night once a bunch of mats end up on the floor lol

[lost kestrel]

eyyy i did the thing

not gonna get fired

thanks for the extrinsic motivation y'all

[austere path]

It lv 64 for now

[warped grail]

gg

[sharp igloo]

Ayyye!

[sharp igloo]

Leveling that will help cooking a lot

[lost kestrel]

active ES literally filled up the floor and lagged in the time since now and when i bounced out of here like 24 minutes ago

[warped grail]

i need mooooore cooppeeeer

[austere path]

I see,thanks

[lost kestrel]

which is nice because greenstack was the intention but it's not the move for active afk

[sharp igloo]

Yeah, it doesn't matter what kinda PC you have, you will 100% start lagging after a few hours of items dropping on the floor lol

[lost kestrel]

good for heating the house if electricity is less expensive than your current heating setup y'all 👍

[sharp igloo]

It's okay as long as you use the filter in the card menu to filter out that mob's main drop.

[storm kelp]

I just did 17 mining cart minigames in hope of getting the achievement. I got 63 once, 61 twice and 58 once. Also like 2 once lol

my high score is 91 but that was months ago

haven't really been trying lately

[sharp igloo]

I havent tried that in forever. I think my highscore is like 16 or something lmao

[storm kelp]

it gets so frustrating

sometimes I click to fast so it doesn't register...

but I can't click slower then because I would still lose

so it's a catch 22 sometimes on what to do

which is why the minigame is broken. it has to allow you to get it and then also you can't mess up

[sharp igloo]

Have you tried getting a megalodon trophy lol? I think that's even worse 😂

[lost kestrel]

cbf with minigames at all

the only ones i do even a point past the gp mins are mining and catching

[halcyon viper]

how much damage is generally good to beat kattlekruk

?

[sharp igloo]

Which class?

[halcyon viper]

dont laugh.

Beastmaster

[storm kelp]

probably! yeah at least that is not an achievement so the itch will be easier to ignore lol

oh level up in discord 😄

[sharp igloo]

Normal chaotic or nightmare?

[halcyon viper]

normal

[sharp igloo]

Yeah I gave up on that one real quick lol

[halcyon viper]

i tried using an overlay to get the megalodon trophy

it did not work

itll probably work but my old laptop got a bit of delay

[worthy helm]

I got 3 whales then died

[storm kelp]

ouch!

[halcyon viper]

soo anyone have an idea?

[storm kelp]

I think it is easier just learning the lengths of each click than looking at the screen and trying to let go at the right time. I got 2 whales once by just winging it cause I had played a lot

[storm kelp]

Does it hurt to try?

I honestly don't know

[lost kestrel]

i feel like if you can reach kruk with bm you can kill him with it

[halcyon viper]

i tried and lost, thats why i asked

[storm kelp]

soon you will be dropping thousands of keys as well

[lost kestrel]

provided you use your crowd control skills right

[halcyon viper]

not really "lost", i just cant kill the moles fast enough

[storm kelp]

what is your damage now?

[sharp igloo]

I don't know for sure about normal, but the wiki says he has 100B hp, and nightmare has 1Q. He requires around 30-50bil damage for a comfortable kill, so someone do the math on that lol

[daring ravine]

i saw a bm yesterday at firespirits
could have been you

[halcyon viper]

well, when i tried i have only like 30M max dmg

[halcyon viper]

probably

[halcyon viper]

sorry, i mean 20M

[daring ravine]

should be alright i beat kkruk with 350m dmg

[daring ravine]

this was you?

[halcyon viper]

now its around 50M but i want to make sure i dont lose any key

[lost kestrel]

daaaaaang

[halcyon viper]

nope, here's mine

what is that gear tho

😭

[formal minnow]

Use the aimed bow skill, but wait for them to get close to kill the whole lane. Also, bm rooting can mess you up because the moles heal on a timer, not necessarily at the location of touching kruk

[daring ravine]

damn

[halcyon viper]

(Its now 49M dmg)

[daring ravine]

thought i saw you

[halcyon viper]

oh really? Thanks for the heads up!

[ashen marsh]

similar to mines lol

[halcyon viper]

i assume kicking wont work either, then

[formal minnow]

That is correct

[halcyon viper]

yeah im currently grinding happy hours for opals

[worn swan]

just getting up to the kruk gear crafting; are kruk stones > W5 stones? Or too rng to be worth

[halcyon viper]

btw what's that pendant? i think mine are outdated

[lost kestrel]

alright y'all, time to start packing up for my commute home

[ashen marsh]

its from gem shop

[lost kestrel]

it's been fun

[formal minnow]

Your pendant is fine

[halcyon viper]

do u mind showing ur dmg?

[worthy helm]

Only worth on tools if you can craft more

Others are too expensive to recraft

[ashen marsh]

cya bro

[little nymph]

https://i.imgur.com/2jczGVU.png

[worn swan]

ta

[ashen marsh]

my dmg weak

[formal minnow]

Same pendant I've been running on almost all my characters at lvl 400 for nkruk

[halcyon viper]

reminded me of the flip flop meta

[halcyon viper]

is it a paid pendant?

[worthy helm]

Gem shop limited

[halcyon viper]

ohh

aight

[formal minnow]

No, I'm saying chizoar scarf is a good enough pendant

[worthy helm]

Meanwhile me with camarok pendant lol

[formal minnow]

The crescent moon is nice for xp, but chizoar gives you a good boost in damage

[ashen marsh]

i have exp cards on

[halcyon viper]

i see

[sharp igloo]

I might be doin the math wrong here, but 1Q/100B=10,000. 50B/10,000=5M. So I would think you would only need 5mil damage to beat normal kruk.

[formal minnow]

Jade I think has the right math, I recommend giving it a shot with what I said in mind, a lot of people who mained bm struggled with kruk until it was realized that bm skills were throwing people off.

[sharp igloo]

BM is wayyyy better than Vman or BB for kruk. Just throw some boars down, rain whales from the sky, drop some bear traps, place some french fries, and then fire your ballistica thing every once in a while. BM has tons of skills to deal with moles.

Just take snare off your attack bar. If you snare them, it still reads as if they kept moving towards the boss even though they appear frozen to you, so he'll heal a bunch everytime you use snare.

[fast grail]

The normal math is not correct, because you need to also be able to one shot the moles. You most likely are going 200m-300m at minimum

moles themselves have almost 1b hp

[sharp igloo]

Most skills do like 300-1000+% damage, plus critical damage. I doubt you'd need 200mil damage to deal 1bil per hit.

5mil might've been a bit low though considering that.

[feral hemlock]

Did anyone got a big nugget on mobile? Like at least 10-100m? Because i managed to upgrade my nugget 5 times, but overall the increase was minuscule from 90k to 800k in those 5-6 upgrades....

[brisk anvil]

Once you're aiming for the ancient sailing artificacts and the chance is really low, whats the tactic?

[sharp igloo]

Wait months and months for an artifact, get excited, repeat.

[violet chasm]

It will come when you least expect it I guess

[brisk anvil]

Good just wanted to make sure hahaha

[violet chasm]

Just focus on upgrading the ships

[dull coyote]

does someone know which map is the best one to farm frags?

[sharp igloo]

The ancients arent too bad. Even the first half of the eldritch ones are reasonable, but once it gets to 0.02% chance it's slow af

[dull coyote]

i spent a day on beans but i got only around 2K...

[sharp igloo]

Beans are probably best.

[stray valve]

slimes maybe

[brisk anvil]

Am about 1/4 way in and its not been too bad, but still a decent wait but my ships/captains probably aren't the best either

[stray valve]

maybe nor

[dull coyote]

uh, i'm using DK

i dont think slime is a good idea

[sharp igloo]

It just gets worse and worse lol. Go for the fury relic asap though

[brisk anvil]

Worth skipping and going straight to fury?

[sharp igloo]

If you have eldritch unlocked then yeah. Fury should be top priority, because then you can start maxing out one of your characters talents every 20 library checkouts as soon as possible.

Without fury, every library check out is kind of a waste long term.

[unreal cypress]

Is there anything that can be done about activing bubo and steam client just freezing ??

[hollow osprey]

this game fooled me

13h active farming -> 1 pop obol

[frigid acorn]

you did it with ES right ?

[hollow osprey]

got said i should do it with DK

[frigid acorn]

nor of them is good when portal or orb level number low

[hollow osprey]

my orb is on 170 is that too low?

lasts for 93 sec

[teal lynx]

170 is probably okay for where you at, but ES is more Efficient when it comes to Pop Obols

[hollow osprey]

alright gonna try it with es then, my es is my highest character aswell so my k/h should be higher there

[frigid acorn]

no active ?

[teal lynx]

ES gets straight Drop Rate from Portal Kills instead of Orb, which basically gives you double loot at 100 kills. Everything you can see on the Monster Card is better to farm with ES (Rare Drops are an exception, those are for DK)

[hollow osprey]

i'm talking about active

[hollow osprey]

that's very good to know ty

gonna keep that in mind, will farm them today with ES

[teal lynx]

Just in case you don't know. Pop Obols only to Silver Tier and best to reroll them to +1 DR when they are at Bronze Tier || The left obol when combining needs to be +1 Dr, everything else doesn't matter

[hollow osprey]

alright ty ty

i appreciate your help

[warped grail]

Better DK to farm troll keys, or ES?

[zealous niche]

False, the rare drops being better on DK is a factoid.

DK is better for crystal drops. Those rare drops from the frog ES is better at still

[zealous niche]

ES

If it comes from a mob, ES is best

If it comes from a crystal, DK is best

[zinc torrent]

Does anyone know the breeding setup to win fights?

Which pets to use

[hollow osprey]

ES just with a usual DR setup?

[slender sandal]

#1084911530417606656

[teal lynx]

Well yeah, but Crystals have every Rare Bag of the respective world. Therefore you shouldn't farm Rare bags on ES

[teal lynx]

1 or 2 Damage cards can sometimes be better. But usually DR is the way to go

[hollow osprey]

uh why has my ES such low k/h

[gaunt shale]

skill setup ?

[storm kelp]

for vman runs, is it better to have as many 15% multikill chips instead of some damage and/or respawn rate chips or having 1 of each better?

[hollow osprey]

nop

DR card build equipped there

my DK reaches almost 100k/h at giga with DR build and like half the dmg

[teal lynx]

The kp/h on afk has nothing to do with active farming
A few reasons why ES might be lower are: Star Talents, afk%, fucked up skill bar, movement speed, prayers

[uncut hull]

don't forget to put points into ES multikill skill

[hollow osprey]

fully leveled

[hollow osprey]

gonna take a look ty

[storm kelp]

so hard choosing chips for vman runs, anyone have a screenshot of what they think is best?

[teal lynx]

Assuming we are talking straight portal run and no samples. I go with both Card doublers, 2 multikill chips, 2 respawn chips and attack speed chip. Not sure what is optimal tho

[storm kelp]

yeah it is so hard to choose between attack speed/respawn and like double star sign chip (for sampling), damage, keycvhain stat doubler etc.

[teal lynx]

Maybe #1084911530417606656 has a optimal guide. Gonna look really quick
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1109526896640807002 there is this, but not an optimal chip set in there

[left spoke]

Why are there stamps without colors ?

[random saddle]

Do i need to be in the same map with party to complete halloween quest?

[left spoke]

Not 100% sure, I did it with someone in the same map

(clicked on a random and added to team)

[gaunt shale]

pretty sure those stamps need gear to upgrade, thats why

[warped grail]

what means that they are red?

[left spoke]

Not the bottom ones

[storm kelp]

yeah maybe it is hard to say for everyone what is better but a bit more guidance could be helpful here. Oh well I suppose I leave it to the RNG gods

[warped grail]

oh i see, thanks

[azure relic]

are those pics from a site or an addon?

[warped grail]

Idleon Efficiency

[teal lynx]

!ie

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger#6559

[teal lynx]

Second website is

!it

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo#2331

[teal lynx]

I personally like IT more, but IE is easier to get into and you can send the link to everyone in here to get roasted

[warped grail]

i think i have never used the toolbox...i will try it

[storm kelp]

which one for vman run?

[left spoke]

Multikill isn't multikill/tier

So it's not that good

I'd go with the left one

[storm kelp]

ok thanks 🙂 what about one with 2% luck over the multikill one?

[left spoke]

Not sure if it's the best thing to do though

[livid raft]

Im on one of the last rifts... I think 44 or 45 need to get 60 wormhole kills with my ES I can get 50.. what dmg should I be pushing to hit 60?

[left spoke]

How much damage do you have ?

[left spoke]

Iirc I had to push to ~100B, but it was few months ago, may be wrong

You have enough damage imo, is your talent maxed ?

Do you have any HP prayer on ?

You have to use your portal on the tiniest platform of the map

[teal lynx]

Stand here and portal

[livid raft]

149/180 on the wormhole so maybe thats it? I did have an HP prayer on but I turned it off lol first run was only 37 kills.

[teal lynx]

180 max talent? Can you get that higher?

[livid raft]

yea I'll have to do a reset on points and wait a little bit Im at 18/20 books atm. I think my max book is 220 rn.

[left spoke]

With that lvl 220 you'll get through this trial

[teal lynx]

Portal is the most important skill for an ES. Therefore definitely worth

[livid raft]

Alright I'll just spend time leveling in general until I can book it. ES is only lvl 433 since I switched to bubo awhile back. He is lvl 530~ lol

[teal lynx]

Goddamn you spent a lot on GT then. My highest guy is lvl 491

[livid raft]

GT is at 5409 so maybe?

[teal lynx]

Okay mine is 4100. Maybe you just spent way more on Bubo then

[livid raft]

yea I think that's it. I've been using bubo for a couple months now.

[teal lynx]

DK on Beans for me

[livid raft]

statue farming?

[teal lynx]

Yeah, gotta get that sweet lvl 300 statues

I'm at 240. Still a very long time for me

[livid raft]

I need to do some more of that, but wanting to finish up rifts for cards as well

Anyone notice when you deposit coins.. that this number just seems to stay near the same?

I'll deposit 20 of the blue/purple coin.. and it will move up maybe 1.

And when I withdraw seems to do the same thing. Not sure if its a visual thing or what

[fast grail]

It’s visual, go to ie/it to see true values, it’s just digits are shifted

[civic creek]

Do we have a current strategy for the citric conflict TD with the equinox upgrade?

[livid raft]

ahh makes more sense now lol says 268 of the purple/blue still lower then I excepted.. but a lot better then 26..

[unreal fox]

9 vial more

[abstract sapphire]

How am I supposed to do this one? This means 3850 kills within 100 seconds. My max talent-book is still only 160. I'd guess I need more of that.

[slender sandal]

higher cc bubble, level 200 tent skill (in shaman, it's the chance to lower skill cds on kill), mana postbox for respawn, etc

equinox is also an account progression test so you might just be sitting on that one (and others) for awhile

[bold quiver]

for 100k cc u dont even need tentacleye 200

u just need to get a better bubble/higher crystal spawn chance, make sure both your poison and aura one shot crystal monsters at either tremor wurms or citrines and ez

[slender sandal]

it can even be at floms or cans too

[bold quiver]

yeah but 100k at floms or cans might take much longer without 200 tentacleye haha

[humble knoll]

i think i was getting a bit over 100k at floms before 200

[bold quiver]

yeah need to have a good cc bubble and good crystal chance

i remember that before moving to citrines i'd get 80-90k at floms

i wasnt that strong tho haha just a normal guy at the time

[mortal compass]

Anyone got any ideas how I can get 3,700 Tundra spice before the lab chip/gem change on november 8th? I currently get about 150 a day...

[hollow osprey]

@teal lynx already got 4 pop obols with ES yet, ty

[bold quiver]

get a better spice team and claim every 1h on your characters with spice talent

[bold quiver]

i believe the best spice team is: Burger Miasma Fleeter Converter (or bunny if u havent unlocked it yet). Then u wanna place on top row 3 whale + 1 forager and bottom row 4 whale. Good luck

[mortal compass]

WHALES! i need those back

[bold quiver]

and remember that burger is 90% of your total spice speed, so having a strong one is essential for high values

[mortal compass]

i've got the best spice team on tundra, but i've gotta do the whales ASAP

[bold quiver]

oh sweet. Make sure to unlock converter tho, it allows u to get 50% more spices

[violet bridge]

for sailing. is the loot number the amount of treasure they bring back? so if its 5k and goes to the first island he might only bring back 5k plants?

[mortal compass]

not sure if converter will happen before the gem goes away unfortunately

[bold quiver]

hahaa true, bunny is good then

[mortal compass]

i believe its up to that number

[violet bridge]

thanks

[bold quiver]

grind is almost over!

this is so hard to drop jez christ O.O

[tropic kiln]

😭

[spice meadow]

Is cristal farming even plausible without auto-loot?

[pearl cedar]

Game isnt plausible without autoloot

[spice meadow]

oh

[pearl cedar]

Just spend the $5

[daring ravine]

over my dead body

[spice meadow]

When its on sale again, cant even buy it now

[bold quiver]

just click on auto loot

[teal lynx]

You can always buy it!?

[bold quiver]

its even written BUY AUTOLOOT

[spice meadow]

oh

Dint see it

Guess i was suffering in vain

[bold quiver]

molds character

[safe harness]

you can sacrifice some spice gains to go all in and use 4 whales below and 3 whales with leaf above for burger...and also swap leaf for alchemic since leaf is not really adding much vs burger

thats what im doing at least

[tacit tulip]

Your new issue is now bag space, as you can't pick stuff up once full 😄

[spice meadow]

still wont buy it tho, can buy ultrakill with seven dolars

[mortal compass]

that was my plan. i just got 4 eggs from the world 4 colo and i'll get another 4 when the reset happens today

[safe harness]

i hadnt check my spices in a while and realized i had 9 days for tundra and was like im sure i got it...2.2k/5k...and it must have been weeks so now im all in and praying 9 days is enough

[echo stag]

Is there any td guide after equinox? Or just spam kraken and stall the game?

[bold quiver]

u can just calculate

😮

[junior delta]

who want to calculate when u can just hope

[bold quiver]

calculat ehow many spices u'd get without the expoonential cost growth