lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[teal lynx]

Eclipse skulls (1B Mob kills) give 20% for each tier

[hollow osprey]

true

[stray valve]

artifact

[thorn marsh]

can't even see his MK :p

[stray valve]

bubble

[lapis mesa]

i mean i dont think im specifically neglecting anything, guess its just an overall thing

[stray valve]

damage

[hollow osprey]

with my main stuff and cards i'm at 300k

but with crystal/dr stuff just 194k

[autumn wasp]

beats mine

[stray valve]

people out there with 25m gmush kills/h

[thorn marsh]

^

[teal lynx]

Oh for sure. My damge is 300x yours. You are still a little bit behind. But in 2 Months you gonna be at my point

[hollow osprey]

yeah that's insane

[thorn marsh]

ah, it's the T dmg

[stray valve]

i am at 5m

[primal bison]

Glaciaxus finally completed

[lapis mesa]

idk well see, gotta get my samples up if i want my alchemy to spike i guess

[tacit tulip]

it's a self perpetuating cycle

samples = better alch = better samples

[paper nova]

isn't there a bb talent or special talent that does something to help auto collect spices?

[ruby yarrow]

what is scaled skill eff?

[tacit tulip]

it's a star talent, from w4 task board - spice spillage

[lapis mesa]

Yeah, im working on it, they arent improving very fast though,

sure im doing that poorly as well

[tacit tulip]

it's a mild catch up mechanic. The less eff you have, the more scaled eff gives. Minimum of +5 a level

[soft chasm]

What's the good stuff to focus on alchemy wise?

[autumn wasp]

atom larry til 501

[ruby yarrow]

oh

[tacit tulip]

this is a copy paste I use for stuff but probably helps

The easiest way to level alchemy is to look at your bubbles that are very easy to level up. This is typically: Logs, ore, bugs, fish, and sometimes mob mats.

Start taking printing samples (use royal sampler) for the skilling stuff. Use ES to farm mob mats if needed

your goal here is to level up these easy bubbles so that the lab bonus, "no bubble left behind" levels the HARD bubbles for you, without spending your resources: Salt, worship souls, trapping critters, cooking spices, and anvil.

As you progress, your account will get stronger in all areas. This will make your samples bigger, which lets you level the bubbles further, and it's an almost endless cycle towards greatness.

[soft chasm]

Ty~

[tacit tulip]

It's not the most optimal path but I do think it's the easiest way to make strong alchemy progression

[soft chasm]

I'm trying to get out of the fix everything that you neglected since W2 phase, and like, I realise I have no idea what to be doing on the other side of it XD

How do people farm with ES? Actively or like, just using the good prints?

[tacit tulip]

Actively generally - you can also use vman speedrun shenanigans to take big monster prints

[soft chasm]

I'm a skull or two away from vman. Can't wait XD

Thankies

[orchid rock]

Is there a place to see the next chips / jewels rotation ?

[tacit tulip]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ohtWMLT4NzBuVyqcXoEvkCMPXuYGWrRWUAmBOTdZCrQ/edit#gid=1945859978

[paper sail]

ES niche is active farming monster-specific rares. Cooking shoes to make Troll Shoes, Golden Twine to make Troll Helmet, Hampters, Pearlers, Glass Shards, inventory bags, storage chests, recipes.

If the item you're after also drops from Crystal Monsters, DK is usually a better bet. Sometimes, but not always: Stamps, statues.

[soft chasm]

Getting my ES geared was next on my list, so knowing it's an active farm helps loooads. Id of literally sat printing otherwise ^-^`

[uncut kiln]

what yall rating these stats

[tacit tulip]

10/10 basically an endgamer

[worthy helm]

Alchemy can make it better, as always

[uncut kiln]

[dapper prism]

definetely in the wrong chat

[worthy helm]

Any tips on construction?

[uncut kiln]

ppl are active here

[worthy helm]

Struggling rn to get higher build rate and i need double cogs for eq mission

[vestal delta]

dobby is finally a free elf (from w2)

those paintings sucked so bad

[daring ravine]

probably a person from #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳ asking advice here as the only other people giving advice in #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳ are other beginners meaning the advice may not be useful always

which is valid but doesnt fit the channel

[tacit tulip]

If you think their advice is bad just wait until someone from here tries to give relevant advice 😄

[daring ravine]

thats why i stay here around 6 minutes a day

[paper sail]

What an oddly specific amount of time

[formal abyss]

Hey I just reached w5 I guess I start working on divinity and just put everyone there in the beginning?

[tacit tulip]

Short answer: yes

Long answer: Read the pins, there's a divinity specific one

[paper sail]

8/10 at least go to divinity, yeah. Common to keep out 1 active farmer and Mman/Jman skilling.

[formal abyss]

Will do

[daring ravine]

if mman is already miles ahead:
get vman

[lapis mesa]

oh hes such a gamer

[paper sail]

Eh, maybe. If they're starting the Divinity grind, getting Vman kinda sucks because no lab makes all that Deathnote grinding much slower

Lab being doesn't make as huge of an impact on skilling though. They can still do that relatively well.

[daring ravine]

stamps and vials are pretty good so they may make an impact

but considering everyone and idleon players theres a large doubt they actually have no problems with these and that their mman is actually doing well on skilling so it basically never happens

[worthy helm]

When i got to w5 i rushed divinity to get goat and spent some months getting everyone to lv 70 ~ on lab lol

[zinc torrent]

is there a meta armor set?

[zealous niche]

Debatable

[daring ravine]

in a game wheres theres a linear armor crafting line thats a pretty obvious answer
The last one in the line, obviously (divine)

[tacit tulip]

ironically, no 😄

[zinc torrent]

i feel like chizoar helmet is too stronng to not get it

but the rest of the armor is meh

[tacit tulip]

divine is more of a sidegrade to molten

each has its uses

[daring ravine]

wuh?
fair neouh

[zealous niche]

..have you unlocked all armor?

Chizoar is definitely not meta

[zinc torrent]

i have anvil 4 all armor

[thorn marsh]

chizoar meta

[zealous niche]

Good stepping stone

[zinc torrent]

lol i jusst came back form quitting for like 2 years

[tacit tulip]

like, what would you prefer for skilling/taking samples?

respawn speed, damage % and drop rate

Or

all stats%

[zinc torrent]

so i should skip over chizoar then i guess

[daring ravine]

yeah its just nearly night and i dont function as well
forgot troll exists but yeah stats better in that situation

[daring ravine]

if you can easily craft troll and further yeah
if its gonna take a long while chizoar is a great inbetween

[zealous niche]

Tab five is last tab

[paper nova]

If Spice spillage triggers and this spice hasn't even ticked once - will the bar reset completely or does it keep it's progresse?

[zealous niche]

Definitely need troll since all tab 5 is based on it

[zinc torrent]

ok i'll make troll my goal then ty

[zealous niche]

Keep progress

[indigo grove]

ooh only 2.2m kills to go. only 364 hours and i get through this. w6 probably hasn't unlocked by then but if it has, i can use candies.

[zealous niche]

What are you opening?

[daring ravine]

fire spriits

[indigo grove]

actually i am at fire spirits, so that should unlock the w5 boss right?

[daring ravine]

yes

[zealous niche]

If you’re struggling there you probably can’t do boss

You need to be able to one hit moles (next map) to be able to have a shot at w5 boss

[daring ravine]

i dont think you can struggle at kkruk
(Normal atleast )

[zealous niche]

W6 is likely a few months off

For the worlds, lava announces when it’s his sole attention (where we’re at) does in progress teasers to let us know he hasn’t died, then puts a tentative timeline, usually misses it, then puts a shorter definite one, sometimes misses that, then releases

[daring ravine]

too early to release something major like that after a confirmation

[indigo grove]

should probably have beaten w5 boss by then or at least gotten to point to one shotting moles since currently it takes 23 shots without abilities to kill 1 fire spirits

[zealous niche]

That’s been the pattern for the last four worlds

[daring ravine]

if the teasers are ALL the mobs there is and lava didnt hide a single one then we have only 9 (while other maps have 11-15, not including extra)
which sure sounds and screams "W6 is in progress"

unless lava decided that 9 is good enough because they will take years

[dapper prism]

Just because we see teasers, doesn't mean it's every single thing

[daring ravine]

there may be more but main point being is that w6 isnt gonna be soon and theres no need to rush much yet

[zealous niche]

There’s definitely more

They’re teasers not spoilers

[zinc torrent]

Does anyone have a list of things to use for sampling?

I'm gonna resample for the first time in a while

[zealous niche]

Lava does a lot more work than what he posts, he’s not an influencer

It’s more to keep us from thinking he died or abandoned and ghosted the game mid update than to give us info

[indigo grove]

like with idle skilling

[misty spindle]

he did say some time ago that he was finished with his "thinking phase" or hovewer he called it and started working a lot more

[zealous niche]

And the announcement in game that said w6 is next big update

[daring ravine]

then lava probably has a proper plan set for w6 then

[misty spindle]

might mean we get a new NPC or something small like that soon before w6, othervise he would have just said update

[zealous niche]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[calm gust]

Can I get a person with a p or s in their username to say 1 star, game sucks! In w1 cake 14?

Please

[misty spindle]

aight

coming

[indigo grove]

i wonder if lava even remembers that the access to the realms in idle skilling without reaching purgatory first, is supposed to be only tempory... attached picture of the date is when realms aka newest update was released to idle skiling.

[misty spindle]

I dont think he is ever coming back to that game

[indigo grove]

yeah, i wish he would tho... oh you poor idle skilling players. here have a bone you can now play this on steam. "oh cool, can we bring our progress from our phones to steam version?" "go eat a sack"

[gray pagoda]

Anyone else excited for the new elite classes coming soon with W6?

[indigo grove]

yeah i am.

[sick sentinel]

If they do sure am, wasnt the roadmap weird tho and didnt show new classes til w7 or somethin

Who knows if it will change, was a few months ago

[gray pagoda]

It's confusing, but I'm pretty sure they are coming with W6, wouldn't make much sense if they didn't

[zealous niche]

Is it worth it to keep getting ~candies~ treats to get the bandit bob mask? Don’t see it anywhere on the slab

[dapper prism]

Treats, not candies

[pallid raptor]

I totally read that as spirited away

[gray pagoda]

I think it's put in order of how they'll come out, first W6, then 3 elites, then W7 and so forth

[frail schooner]

its worth getting treats just for the gems

[pallid raptor]

I bought them all

[zealous niche]

Free ones sure, but I’ve been using gems to get the other masks

[pallid raptor]

Worth it

[dapper prism]

Loot:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[zealous niche]

Cause they’re slabable, but not sure if bandit bob is in slab

[dapper prism]

Depends how new classes work

[misty spindle]

why would he not put 3 elite classes beside W6

[pallid raptor]

What’s a good card AFK build for rift if you need to kill like 10 million AFK

[zealous niche]

Because they’re likely not coming out together

[dapper prism]

Maybe w6 becomes 3x base classes, with each one having 2x elites branching off

[gray pagoda]

Why does Lava do a lot of things? Not everything he does is clear lol.

[zealous niche]

W5 and classes didn’t come together

[frail schooner]

lava will probably design the elite classes once hes almost done with w7

[gray pagoda]

3 new base classes would be interesting, but unlikely

[pallid raptor]

But there is new classes every two worlds

[zealous niche]

Most likely the current elites get a straight upgrade each given the data mining done previously

[pallid raptor]

W2 w4 w6

[gray pagoda]

There are new classes in every world...

[zealous niche]

There were new classes every world

[misty spindle]

yeah but what you said doesnt really make sense, he even colored elite classes and w7 same

[pallid raptor]

The person tho to upgrade them is in Every two worlds

[gray pagoda]

Why would he skip W6 though, it doesn't make sense. We wouldn't have anything for skills.

[gray pagoda]

The next will be in W8, not W6, if it comes at all

[dapper prism]

but then at the same time it wouldnt be an elite, as it would have to be side by side to dk/bb/newclass1/newclass2
Alternative would be Dk->newclass 1 and bb->newclass2 but then again that wouldnt technically be considered an elite yet

[misty spindle]

gotta ask him that

shit might change still

[zealous niche]

Warrior/archer/mage w1
Barb/bowman/bubo w2
Squire/hunter/wizard w3
BB/BM/Bubo upgrade w4
DK/Sb/Es w5

[dapper prism]

unless skill content talent buffs is obtained in a standalone way like equninox unlocks

[gray pagoda]

You mean the way that characters specialize in skills is its own thing, separate from classes?

[dapper prism]

So 1 thing would be getting 3 subclasses past warri/archer/mage, so side by side with bow/squire etc.

[gray pagoda]

Reason I'm asking is cause I don't really understand what you're saying lol

[zealous niche]

I get what you’re saying trickz, but disagree

[dapper prism]

star talents, vip talents, or just noting class related at all for w6, who knows

[indigo grove]

what if there would be skill that simply does NOT have specification.

[gray pagoda]

Ok

[gray pagoda]

It would suck

[primal bison]

Who’s quickest at getting cards?

[zealous niche]

The family setup and prior datamining leans towards a tab 5 of skills

[dapper prism]

combat, es
skilling maestro+

[zealous niche]

There’s tab 5 skill point bonuses coded already

[vocal flower]

Hmm so I now have all regular mob drops green stacked, all basic materials green stacked, working on finishing bar green stacks, and food green stacks, and even with all that I'll only be like 150. How tf do I reach 200 green stacks?

[gray pagoda]

Which is where that W8 new class comes in (named the "Esoteric" classes in the wiki)

[vocal flower]

Or is 200 only going to be possible once we have w6?

[zealous niche]

This tab also implies another layer

[gray pagoda]

What do you need 200 greenstacks for?

[zealous niche]

One more upgrade for each class

[vocal flower]

One of the equinox things

[zealous niche]

Equinox dream

[gray pagoda]

Yeah, but that needs to be redone for when we do get those classes. It's getting cramped in there.

[zealous niche]

Possible now, saw a guide on it

You need to use some quest items to greenstack the last few to 200 though

[gray pagoda]

Honestly think that the class thing in codex should show the base classes on the main page, and then you can click on each one individually and, if you have it unlocked, it can tell you what it specializes in.

[vocal flower]

Ah rip, so if I finished those quests I can't do those then

[dapper prism]

Still doesnt match the stuff that was obtained from Rule 3C btw

[indigo grove]

i wonder when the old tutorial world secret is going to come useful into the game. saying old cause when i created new acc recently to party with myselfs for the kill 500 mobs with party member i noticed it threw straight to w1.

[zinc torrent]

when farming for power statues it's best to do it on dk right?

[gray pagoda]

What's Rule 3C?

[dapper prism]

#server-rules

#off-topic-chat ill post it there

[zealous niche]

I saw stuff that said it does, interesting.

Perhaps it’s changed since then

[zealous niche]

Possibly not

[zealous niche]

Food items and bars still can be worked on though

Is IE accurate with the bandit bob mask not counting to slab?

Going to use my gems for other things than treats if so

[hollow osprey]

any tips for getting 180 orb score on dk at rift ?

[pure surge]

so what exactly do you do after you get full chem plants in your garden? click them one by one? try to unlock other plant evos?

[fallow aurora]

does putting multiple of the same pets with a breedable gene increase the multi faster?

[merry pulsar]

there has to be somewhere better to farm battleaxes i only get like 25 a hour

[high mesa]

This might be a silly question. I have a single character who seems to be uploaded to the lab, despite not being linked to that particular god, but I can’t remember what I did to make that the case.

[fallow aurora]

is it on a ES or do u have doot?

[high mesa]

It’s ES don’t have Doot yet

[fallow aurora]

its probably the Polytheism talent

click on the bottom left talent on ES

[high mesa]

Yep!

Thanks!

[fluid tinsel]

Are Name I guess and Red meaty claws worth atoming like QS, or nah

Like upgrading them a lot

[zealous niche]

Meaty claws no, can’t remember name I guess’s bonus

[fluid tinsel]

it's the power of 10 MP linear base dmg bubble

[zealous niche]

No as well

Quick slap does more for base damage than either of them will

[prisma drift]

Quick slap only worth atom if you have endgame alch

Especially with w6 coming I’d keep up with my useful stuff

[zinc torrent]

What is everyone average stats in W5?

[prisma drift]

All bubbles to 90%

There’s a graph that shows what level that is

All skilling bubbles should be 95%

Yeah I wouldn’t touch quick slap personally

I hit purple T dmg without it

[fallow aurora]

average is not a good way to see if ur stats are good for w5, since theres endgamers with trillions of damage that are ready for w6

[prisma drift]

If your fishing isn’t great it would be good to grab some eff on that

Since w6 will use the sea salt island fish

[indigo grove]

yeah true, but its good to at least reach w6 town since every town (except w1) has had something that helps you progress even if you dont progress further than the town. w2 has alchemy,delivery system, obols and arcade, w3 has construction, w4 has lab,cooking,pets, w5 has divinity, sailing, gaming,slab and ofc the upgraded enchantment stones in every single world.

[glacial venture]

my vman has about 450b dmg...guess it should be enough for w6

[candid robin]

anyone know the pet setup for 115 with 4 sets for the arena?

[sick sentinel]

Looter, peapod, refiller, borgar

[candid robin]

ty

[candid robin]

is tyhere only 1 peapod?

[sour oasis]

i think the first pet you can get with peapod is the first question mark in w4

speaking from personal experience the same lineup with rattler is about 20% as effective as the peapod

[grand fable]

does anybody know what the weapon on the voidwalker nametag is for

[sick sentinel]

Should be doggo and hedgehog in w4 pets i believe

Oh shiggy said ye first ? Mark

[prisma drift]

Ngl I thought it was just like flame effects

Like

How he has that flame outline

Or I misunderstood?

[grand fable]

naw, on the right there is like a lil weapon

[prisma drift]

I don’t see it

[hollow osprey]

what's the best spot for farming crystals and statues?

[grand fable]

Idk for me its a pink fisty cuff, but ive seen people with just daggers

[prisma drift]

Oh you are in the dungeons

That’s your dungeon level

Nothing to do with vman

[prisma drift]

Beans is best

[hollow osprey]

perfect ty

[prisma drift]

For w1 statues of course

[sick sentinel]

There is a graphic made for onyx statues by trickz in the 3rd pin for each world

[hollow osprey]

ty

[grand fable]

my bad 😂

[prisma drift]

I was confused haha

[hollow osprey]

onyx statues are 20k statues right

[prisma drift]

I was like pink weapon

[grand fable]

yep

[hollow osprey]

my dr really sucks

[gusty glade]

is it worth only getting larry to 500 (if the rest of your alch is suffering) or should you just bite the bullet and get it to 1000?

[glacial venture]

with that dr its better to bite the bulletn and farm dice and pop obols first

[prisma drift]

I’d say go for 1100

If you plan to play longer than 6 months it’ll even out

Then after that it’s pure gains from having bigger Larry

If you start hourly clicking when you have big enough samples Larry is even stronger

[hollow osprey]

this sucks aswell

should get it lower before i bother with crystal farming ig

[dim wind]

Is lvl170 a hard cap or does it scale on class or alch level?

[sick sentinel]

Hard cap

[dim wind]

cool, thanks

[hollow osprey]

is there a way to farm much silver pens?

[rich epoch]

crystals

[sick sentinel]

Pretty much from crystal mob farm

[dim wind]

got these from 4 hours of active playing on my DK farming crystals for statues

[rich epoch]

more than your mouse can ever expend

I do actually log on mobile just to spend pens

[hollow osprey]

damn

[dim wind]

you'll want these 2 cards and the chocolate chip cookie in the lab, I thnk those are the most imorant

[hollow osprey]

my poop is 4 star, demon genie 3 star

have got choco chip

[rich epoch]

I had similar Dr like two weeks ago and now I'm sitting at 12+. go for the Dr cards first if not maxed, then farm the obols. it fucking sucks but you can farm some statues while at it

[dim wind]

thats fine, the cards are important, the level less so

[hollow osprey]

best crystal spawn chance i can get is 1 in 146 tho

[zinc torrent]

i was trying to do the same thing and only got to 1 in 96 it feels like that's too low

[rich epoch]

the Dr obols are literally game changing and one of the most boring farming ever but it is worth it

[hollow osprey]

only pop obols i've got yet lmao

dk for farming them aswell?

[dim wind]

These are the 5 sources of crystal spawn

[dim wind]

yes

[hollow osprey]

oh well i don't have the shrine

[sharp igloo]

Just active at gigafrogs for a day and youll get a ton of pop obols

[hollow osprey]

aight

[rich epoch]

I farmed with DK because of the shards from the crystals too even tho the map ain't that great

[dim wind]

shrine and post office are the only 2 areas you're lacking in

so focus on those, and if you actively farm on your DK for pop obols, youll see a lot of pens

[hollow osprey]

with my dr build lmao

[gusty glade]

what should crystal spawn chance be?

like a good number to shoot for

[dim wind]

2~5%?

[hollow osprey]

i saw a dude with 1 in 16

[rich epoch]

1 in 1

jk

[zealous niche]

1 in 25 is good for non vman

Vman goes to 1 in 8 iirc?

[gusty glade]

mostly done through stamps i'm guessing?

[zealous niche]

Stamps, cards, card doublers

[hollow osprey]

my crystalline stamp is on 90 rn but can't level it higher because of those bricks

[zinc torrent]

do u guys ever have someone afk cooking or u just use balloons to level?

[dim wind]

all the other methods hit a wall, stamps is the only one you can technically keep on pushing

[zealous niche]

Special talent

[zealous niche]

Now that my bb has done all reasonable super chows he’s banished to the kitchen for a bit

[dim wind]

got 3 cooking to gather 100k ladles for equinox 😦

[zinc torrent]

dang

[dim wind]

the other 7 are key farming for blitzkrieg troll

[zinc torrent]

i honestly hate the w4 skills

except the pets

[dim wind]

breeding is slow but lab is fine

[zinc torrent]

cooking feels slow to me

i feel like i'm doing something wrong

[dim wind]

really is

[zealous niche]

It is slow

[zinc torrent]

i love the w5 skils

[rich epoch]

huh, just found out that my es have the higher trapping level

2 ahead from my bm

[wanton wagon]

It's supposed to be slow on purpose, even the highest players dont even have a level 100 cooking level player, iirc

[gusty glade]

is there a list of everything that affects carry capacity?

[zealous niche]

What is this nonsense, nobody should be first except vman

(Maybe ES ahead for worship)

[rich epoch]

if you guess how many skills my vman leads you win a fun reaction

[dim wind]

might wanna put your vman on 9 xp-based traps

[zealous niche]

I’m guessing 0

[rich epoch]

my vman is neglected the poor thing. just started leveling him properly now

[zealous niche]

Vman should only have exp traps, and use the worship charge on vman before using the ES skill

[dim wind]

Why use the ES skill anyway? I just take the souls per account?

[zealous niche]

Good to do that while getting 1000 worship level, but ES has extra worship eff, therefore more souls, plus the convenience of it

[dim wind]

Well, I guess I'm not one to point fingers, but at least my hunter is set right 😂

[dim wind]

Alright, thanks!

[rich epoch]

yeah, I really did let my vman fall hard behind. I'm doing that now and actually focusing on that rn because now it is not that much of a slog

[green eagle]

Yes but you also lose charge in the long run only using ES as you gain max charge/level

[rich epoch]

focusing on the other skills too*

[dim wind]

Really shows how bad cooking is balanced as a skill... 🙄

[gaunt parcel]

Second god needs so much divinity

[rich epoch]

TBF he isn't that behind but that is mostly work I've done this last two weeks

I'm trying to get it ahead on cooking rn to get extra efficiency for those ladles

honestly not sure it is a good play

[zealous niche]

No? Not if you use it before the chars fill up

[dim wind]

we're pretty close together

[dim wind]

I tihnk GG means that by losing out in levels in the long run, your charge gain overtime is slower than leveling up every account seperately

[zealous niche]

But max charge doesn’t affect charge rate

If there was charge rate gains per level sure

[dim wind]

but charge rate is affected by level right?

[zealous niche]

Didn’t think so

[dim wind]

feels like it keeps going faster for me

These should have the same buffs

[zealous niche]

No, you’re both right

Damn..

[dim wind]

7% per day over 11 levels isnt that impactful so dont feel bad

[green eagle]

Bubble in alchemy gives more max charge per level

[zealous niche]

@green eagle I am wrong and thank you for letting me know I was missing out on charge rate gains

[sharp igloo]

Use balloons to get cooking to 30-35ish then use those orange pearls from the bird god to get it to 50

[rich epoch]

I think charge numbers are broken on EF. my chars have way higher max and charge rate than listed on the site

[zealous niche]

Max charge doesn’t matter, but apparently charge rate increases too which is the real skill

Oh derp, it’s the stamps

Because higher worship means higher stamp bonus

[dim wind]

Toolbox does give different numbers, but the delta is still 7% between em

[green eagle]

Eventually you’ll lose out on charge as well as your characters will have more charge than your ES can hold after siphoning

[dim wind]

depends how often you siphon

[rich epoch]

this is a good tip. will do that later. ty

forgot the bird did even exist

[dim wind]

didnt we all :thnk

[rich epoch]

lmfao

[sharp igloo]

Its op if you have doot, but still good otherwise

[zealous niche]

Only if you don’t claim is my point

Daily claim keeps well ahead of that

[dim wind]

even biweekly

[rich epoch]

damn, with doot it is sure amazing.

[sharp igloo]

Yeah I got all my characters to 50 cooking and still have like 1000 pearls lol

[dim wind]

yeh, doot really OP

I've seen like 40 pearls in my life 😄

[rich epoch]

yeah. I just don't think about it to not get sad. lmfao

[fallow aurora]

imagine people getting to level 50 skills day 1 of w6 getting released

[rich epoch]

jade gonna be up there

[sharp igloo]

I hope they allow pearl usage on w6 skills lol

[dim wind]

pearls and candy dont work on the newest world luckily

[rich epoch]

lmao

do pearls not work on div?

[sharp igloo]

Im saving my golden stopwatches for w6 too just in case

[dim wind]

Omniphau is another really strong addition with Doot, progress on things like the 3D printer or refinery is a major factor

[rich epoch]

stahp. I know 😭😭😭

[sharp igloo]

Yeah its super good for hourly clicks

[rich epoch]

if doot only let everyone be connected to bear I'd already find it op

lmao

[dim wind]

and of course the general 3x printing with Harriep, but that's straight forward

[rich epoch]

with the snake afk always on

[sharp igloo]

And since it connects everyone to lab too, its really 6x printing

[dim wind]

yeh, crazy

I'd buy doot in a pack, but don't like the loot-box aspect of it

[sharp igloo]

Yeah the way he did it was kinda dumb imo

[rich epoch]

if lava releases doot on a pack after the rotation changes he will retire right there

[dim wind]

just makes one wonder what doot-level best pet he can think of for the next rotation

all prayers on at 100%?

[sharp igloo]

I hope there are no more rotations lol

[dim wind]

or all card-packs sets

[rich epoch]

this is a sheep level one tho. lmao

all cards on would be... something

all cards and sets on

[dim wind]

only the packs sets, not all cards

[rich epoch]

why go small? all cards doubled

[sharp igloo]

Half the cards are passive anyway, Im not sure how good having them all on would even be

[rich epoch]

lmao

[dim wind]

very

[prisma drift]

Half the cards are trash

[dim wind]

Look at things like minimum and crit damage... they're low numbers per card but they add up

[rich epoch]

you could get all the Dr ones with the crystal ones on

but... other than that idk

[sharp igloo]

That would be good for bossing, but not much else

[left spoke]

That's only the 3rd best companion dw

[prisma drift]

Wouldn’t be a very large gain overall, definitely not doot tier

[dim wind]

and miss out like 70% damage, 100% xp

[rich epoch]

I know

next doot pet: double all alch bonuses

[dim wind]

full access to the bank from quick ref would probably be reproduced by full access to the anvil and post-office

[left spoke]

Doot tier would be like: "Each character can now farm multiples maps at a time and both talent sets are active"

[dim wind]

Unlocking the 3rd talent set might be an interesting buff too

[tacit tulip]

Oh are we making doot 2?

[left spoke]

So you can skill and fight at the same time

[rich epoch]

you can have two active characters

[prisma drift]

Next doot tier is infinite atom clicks per day

[sharp igloo]

Being able to active on all 10 characters would be doot tier for sure lol

[rough wasp]

level 1M Bob

[dim wind]

all 10 sample sets are printed

[rich epoch]

let you print any item so you can greenstack gems

[prisma drift]

Bogos binted?

[left spoke]

Oh I got one, new Doot is: x0.1 your DR per level of your character, but it multiplies with everything else

[dim wind]

too straight forward 😛

[rich epoch]

next door: 11th character

[left spoke]

So you got one char level 400, that's ~400x DR for you

[dim wind]

Cooking xp is account-wide, so you can train 10x as fast

[prisma drift]

That’s an F tier pet

[left spoke]

Not game breaking at all

[dim wind]

true

obols in your storage also give their bonus?

[sharp igloo]

After level 50 cooking xp is so slow that after like 6 months, youd just have 52 cooking on everyone lol

[prisma drift]

Me with 20 kruk obols

Infinite afk gains

[dim wind]

infinite carry capacity per slot would be nice

[prisma drift]

After cooking 50 is just having your lil bro hold down the mouse on 50k balloons for a few minutes

[rich epoch]

I'm too midgame to have any good idea

[dim wind]

forge your own keychains from fragments

[rich epoch]

lmfao

[unkempt quest]

That would be sick

Idc of it would take 5x more

Just having choice would be awesome

[rich epoch]

lava is reading it all and evil laughing

[brazen cliff]

Well that just happened.

[dim wind]

well, nothing we said is worse than doot so bring it on 😄

[prisma drift]

Making me wanna go roll

[rich epoch]

LMFAO

I'm afraid we gonna get divinity 2 and doot 2 is gonna be just... doot for divinity 2

[dim wind]

break down existing keychains in 2 parts and fix them at a 20% chance with more fragments into new ones or smt

[prisma drift]

My nugget multiplier just almost reset

I almost got a fractional increase lol

[dim wind]

Doot 2: multiple captains per ship for sailing 😂 Call it the Love Boat

[prisma drift]

It was just barely smaller

[sharp igloo]

I hate when the nugget multiplier resets from a nug just above your current max lol

[rich epoch]

a clown pet. stacking captains. not doot level tho

[prisma drift]

It was 360k and I’m at 370k

Scared me for sure since my max is 30M rn

[queen lava]

Why does my es get better power statue rates on carrots than my dk in the same spot if dk is better for power statue farming?

[zealous niche]

Doot is invalidate an entire skill for convenience

[prisma drift]

I’ve been stacking this multi for a minute off bad luck

[dim wind]

chocolate chip cookie is still on ES?

[zealous niche]

Carrots drop them directly

[rich epoch]

es farm better inate drops and carrot drops power

[queen lava]

I dont have any cookie chips

[rich epoch]

Dk farms better crystal drops

[sharp igloo]

I still need to max the nugget equinox thing lol

[zealous niche]

ES is better for farming drops from the mobs, DK from crysyals

[storm kelp]

My 9th crowned vial. I wonder if I am the one with the least crowns who also have this one? hmmm

[tacit tulip]

equi logs was my wifes second max vial so nope 😄

[sharp igloo]

Did you active that or just check afk every minute lol?

[rich epoch]

the equinox ones are easy. I have that one and I don't even have 9 crowns

[storm kelp]

lol that lasted short xD

[tacit tulip]

print

[queen lava]

Ooooooh ok, some person told me that dk was better for anything thats in the rare drop bag thingy

[dim wind]

humble brag, and not talking about the vials

[sharp igloo]

Oh lmfao I didnt even realize you could print those

[storm kelp]

only printer

[dim wind]

yeh, you really shouldnt, I didnt know for days either

[rich epoch]

I... saw someone saying that too but... that is not how it works. lmao.

[dim wind]

Printing is a percentage of your afk gain, and you can't afk in the equinox, so I didn't think you could sample. Missed out 5 days...

[queen lava]

Ok thanks

[tacit tulip]

she DOES have more than 9 now cause after I found out I made her do more, so you still win

[storm kelp]

my GIRLFRIEND hates that I play this lol

[dim wind]

I don't even have a dog to start to fight back

[storm kelp]

nah she can have it

[storm kelp]

pet spider looming in the ceiling?

[rich epoch]

I don't even have friends what is this you're talking about?

[dim wind]

if that's what it has come too....

[vagrant mountain]

that stabby feeling you have in your back sometimes

[sleek valve]

best way to get 100 000 sec of instant progress of cranium cooking ?

[rich epoch]

that is probably a heart attack check your doctor

[dim wind]

of course level it as high as you can, and manually spam click the respawn ability. I get the best result at tremor wurms, but cans and flombeiges are good maps too

[sharp igloo]

Use stingers at wurms with your attack bar as CC>respawn>aura>fart

[dim wind]

what's stingers?

[sharp igloo]

Theyre fist weapons.

The highest level ones that a non beginner can use

[dim wind]

ohh, of course. interesting choice, why over a staff?

faster attack speed or smt?

[sharp igloo]

Theyre faster so you spawn aura more often

[dim wind]

very interesting, I'll remember that for certain challenges

[sleek valve]

okay thanks alot

[rich epoch]

I miss the days of spear buboing

[dim wind]

best to start fighting for a bit before activating cranium, so the map is alreayd filled with poison

gives you a head0start

[sharp igloo]

Its obviously not worth it if you arent 1 shotting with poison, but if you are, theyre better than a staff for active play

[rich epoch]

my bubo still carries the wis stoned spear from olden days

[sharp igloo]

Make some stingers lol, theyre like w2 weapons I think, super easy to craft

[dim wind]

both are speed 5

[rich epoch]

oh yeah, I'll try later. I just remembered the spear

[sharp igloo]

I think the stingers have better stats, but I guess I havent checked for sure

[zinc torrent]

How do i use dootophone to access doot without other players?

[dim wind]

2 less weapon power, but 1 more upgrade slot

[dim wind]

enter the map with the golden eye, then use the horn once inside

[sharp igloo]

Huh, idk then, maybe a spear is just as good.

[dim wind]

the upgrade slot is worth more than 2 WP, so stingers are still better, but slightly

[zinc torrent]

ty... i was dropping regular eye

[sharp igloo]

Yeah I mean damage doesnt really matter much at that point, as long as theyre the same speed. Spear might even be better if it has longer range

[dim wind]

and if you're not manually casting, some movement speed buffs might be good to increase your kills on CC too

[rich epoch]

the spear was good because you could hit more than a mob but lava made it so that only warriors can

[burnt sail]

It's not because they're faster. It's because they force you into melee range so that you spread your aura around better.

[dim wind]

stingers and spear both

[hybrid spindle]

can you somehow add colosseum rewards to the filter?

[hollow osprey]

why are pop obols so annoying to farm

[midnight venture]

How does one do such things

[hollow osprey]

1h no pop obol

[storm kelp]

logging good, everything else bad. Also recently increased stuff I have been slacking in

[midnight venture]

👀 ouuuu

[storm kelp]

My fishing samples went 36x my previous amount today for example

did my 3rd and 4th vman run yesterday and todayafter months of not doing them

started statue farming 2 days ago and have 7 onyxed

[hollow osprey]

damn what

[storm kelp]

Didn't know that was also how you get obols but now I have more gold and plat obols, before I had just silver mostly

after checking some guidses and asking here I got from 7 DR to 12 today after this weekend

[rich epoch]

oh friend. try... a whole day

and remember to have slots open

[hollow osprey]

yeah i cleaned up my obols

[storm kelp]

I got like 30 pop obols today

[hollow osprey]

nice

[storm kelp]

never tried before lol

[vapid cove]

I did it in the orange map W5 got 123k seconds

[glad crow]

i did it in tremor wurms and got 416k

[rich epoch]

just got back home to find my game crashed as soon as I left

fun

[wanton wagon]

Only some you can, stuff like some ores depending on what colo it is but others aren't listen in the drop table on the card so you kind have to just deal with it

[wanton wagon]

Oof were trying to do some activing lol

[hybrid spindle]

so probably no way to get rid of gear drops....they clog up my inventory all the time

[vagrant mountain]

[rich epoch]

lmfao. maybe I should look into that 👀

[vagrant mountain]

apparently there is steam remote play too but remote desktop has more uses

[pearl cedar]

New update kinda sucks for me though

[vagrant mountain]

what update

[pearl cedar]

Google remote desktop. Forced browser use and now landscape doesnt work for me

[rich epoch]

I'm on Linux so it will probably have 1000 or more loops to jump through but I can try

[vagrant mountain]

I don't think I've ever used those xD

all I do is click some bubbles and deposit stuff

[thorn oriole]

What’s that? I use any viewer

[pearl cedar]

Ah i primarily use it for normal gameplay

[thorn oriole]

It works remotely? Idk it throws me into big picture mode and I just want the Remote Desktop

[vagrant mountain]

chrome remote desktop

[pearl cedar]

Think steamlink just shows steam. Google remote desktop does actual rdp

[thorn oriole]

Sad, I’m not a chrome supporter

[daring rapids]

heh dont even have xp cards on

[pearl cedar]

I assume there is a Linux installer as Linux is like the most used OS in the world

[vagrant mountain]

so technically you're a mobile gamer

[heavy moth]

didnt realized i made that muchg skull

[gaunt parcel]

Nice

[pearl cedar]

Use my desktop as a server for idleon

[true obsidian]

not bad

[vagrant mountain]

[gaunt parcel]

500 treats ?

[warm parcel]

Spend it all at the arcade like a responsible stamp collector.

[heavy moth]

spent all onm refinery

kidding went for the holy pearl of course to 500 Vman

[daring rapids]

spend it on all ladles like any pyscho trying for 100k

[heavy moth]

XD did my 100K ealier with afk gian only

[daring rapids]

see pyscho!

I barely get like 400 a day on barb zzz and cant afford anymore cooking and skill stamps lol

[heavy moth]

thankfully it only means it not your time for that dream 😛 aim for smaller goal

[daring rapids]

my other options are all lvl 500 and 2k kill joy 😛

[heavy moth]

XD you completed the rest ?

and only have 400 laddle a day

[paper sail]

I can't imagine you get 400 ladles per day and completed the others

[daring rapids]

ahh other one is lvl 2 bob joe but thats just time gate

[heavy moth]

200 greenstack should be way harder than the laddle

[gilded orchid]

Get your damage up and super chow for ladles

[daring rapids]

my damage is ass not sure what im missing for that

[fast grail]

probably alch

[rich epoch]

spend all of it on crystals with chocochip

[orchid rock]

real strat ? Isn't it overkill ?

[rich epoch]

it is overkill

although you could probably use it to get a really high orb for the slush obol

[daring rapids]

seems low to me

[rich epoch]

alternatively you can just hear the crash crash noise a lot which is great

[paper sail]

Who isn't swimming in slush obols They've been on my filter list for so long

[gilded orchid]

Even that damage is still very low, lol

[rich epoch]

sorry I'm poor(ly organized and never even bothered doing then properly)

[daring rapids]

yeah and thats my best damage by far

[wanton wagon]

I wanna see if i can summon him

[wanton wagon]

Why the hell would you filter them, unless you have a shit ton of obol frags already

[wanton wagon]

Checks out then lol

[paper sail]

Fragging obols is just tedious at this point

[wanton wagon]

You say that now..

And then you'll run out of them and say ah shit

[rough wasp]

thats when u unfilter

[paper sail]

I have not spent an obol fragment since the day Kruk was released

I'm not worried lol

[rough wasp]

i dont even think u need that much Scoli

[paper sail]

I just don't have enough room to filter them all lmao

[rough wasp]

Waiting for another 5 pages of filter

and a filter for the fucking collo armors

[paper sail]

Basically 1 whole page for upgrade stones, 1 whole page for obols, 1 whole page for unstackable unique drops from Crystals that murder my inventory

[rough wasp]

Greenstack those upgrade stones

[paper sail]

No thanks

[rough wasp]

I'll do it for you one day

[paper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-donkey-that-is-nasty-gif-22862622

The only upgrade stone I ever see getting gstack is mystery I

[wanton wagon]

With ram it's kind of useless to filter anything thats not equips, everything in my filter is equips like spore tees and shit

[wanton wagon]

Mystery 1 and 2 bc you can use them on the stamps

[paper sail]

Using them on stamps has nothing to do with the ability to reasonably gstack them, but sure

[wanton wagon]

Bc if your gonna greenstack them you should just be using them on the stamps?

How does that not make sense

[dapper prism]

Still dont want the lag and desync when you are afik-active overnight and stuff

[wanton wagon]

Well that's just common sense but yes

Or your like gard and can just carry 1 mill+ per stack in your inv

[paper sail]

1m is nothing lol

[wanton wagon]

Oh I'm sure she can fit a lot more lol. But the picture I saw was only 1mil

[vagrant mountain]

gard is not as late game as everyone in gen chat thinks lol (no offense garde, if you see this)

[paper sail]

[vagrant mountain]

pog

now sell it

[timber glacier]

Is there a way to find out what recipes I've had drop? I swear I've just deleted the Glove recipe from sugmas

[paper sail]

Can't wait to see how much rift slug ups my CC times

[vagrant mountain]

!recipedrop

[obtuse orbit]

Recipe drops are a bit different from the other drops when you view them on your card. If the recipe is black, it means you have never picked up a recipe from that anvil tab. If your recipe is lit up it means you have found one from that anvil tab, lucky you! However, if you learn a recipe, that specific recipe will no longer be displayed at all on that monsters card.

[timber glacier]

Today I learned
Good news: Still hasn't dropped
Bad News: I'm cursed even with active kills 😢
Ty

[vagrant mountain]

I got most of my recipes just afking for deathnote stuff

got suggms recipe around 650m kills in

[timber glacier]

Any day now then

[vagrant mountain]

heh

[mighty basin]

If I accidentally left a map with a recipe drop on the floor, can I regain it?

[rough wasp]

hater

[chrome tiger]

n/sure if catching is worth doing

[paper sail]

Just saying 1m stacks ain't shit

[chrome tiger]

the mid news is that glove actually doesn't boost vman damage all that much

so you're better off just doing your thing until you have 20x drop

[rough wasp]

ik I’m above it too I’m just fucking with snail

[paper sail]

Recipes continue dropping until you actually learn them

[indigo grove]

+++

,,

[paper sail]

oh gd, went from 380k average to 436k on first cc

[indigo grove]

waiting for filter for coins, or free autoloot but only for coins or let coins drop but make them invisible, anything so i am not playing a powerpoint presentation... i dont play currently actively that much but during events with automatic loot items 100% as i throw my char to beans

[zinc torrent]

i messed up getting rando second am i just screwed for weeks?

[sick sentinel]

As long as you go fractal last or not at all its fine

Shimmer is good to get next

[zinc torrent]

yea i looked it up that was what i was thinking too

shimmer looks the coolest

[indigo grove]

which better rando or sea salt? those 2 are my last to islands

[zinc torrent]

i have rando

it's just like a 1 weekly boss

it'ss not worth

[sick sentinel]

Seasalt to finish omars quests and get good fish exp

[zinc torrent]

i'm guessing sea salt has to be better

[indigo grove]

why fractal last/not at all btw?

[sick sentinel]

Early when the bonuses are good you dont have the candy to spend on it (plenty better uses) and late the bonuses mean nothing

The only good good part is the trophy which is hella rng

[obtuse rover]

The Lava special

[indigo grove]

only 5k to go for me to unlock 10k bonus from fractal aka Dirty Shovel digs up +25% more Gold Nuggets. gonna keep most of my peeps in there. i currently have everyone except 2 chars sitting in fractal cause i have no idea where to keep them instead, maybe i should throw them into the divinity so i could get all of those unlocked when if i eventually possibly get doot.

[leaden hemlock]

how endgame are you for it to be worth that much time to get +25% more nuggets

[dapper prism]

Seems like such a waste o.o

[leaden hemlock]

when chemical plants exist

[sick sentinel]

I mean u do you, but you could be doing so many other things instead that actually help u out. Lab(if u need lab levels), deathnote, skilling, peinting atoms in lab, cooking like literally anything lol

[dapper prism]

Probably not worth at all, since by the time they'd get the unlock the yould already easily have a 10m+ nugget

[indigo grove]

not endgame at all, just not sure where to place them instead.

[leaden hemlock]

eclipse sculls

leveling skills

[dapper prism]

43 days of afk (on 10 alts each) is just a waste

[leaden hemlock]

increasing alch

levelling divinity

greenstacking mats

[dapper prism]

gmush grind

[leaden hemlock]

true

[paper sail]

Spin the globe, throw a dart, there is something to improve

[dapper prism]

Like.. in their case thats 208 more days (or 21 days on 10 alts) (for the 5k h)

[indigo grove]

this should roughly tell how far i am at rn. my char which has all the nodes unlocked, takes 364 hours to kill 2,264,978 fire spirits so i unlock the w5 boss so i am ready for eventual w6.

[sick sentinel]

Fractal wont make u stronger to do that faster

[dapper prism]

issue with fractal is that nearly everything is additive

"oh 20% mor arti chance to your already 300-400%+" is pretty tiny

[slender sandal]

fractal definitely needs more juice to be remotely worthwhile unless you're bored

[autumn wasp]

fractal is boring as shit bruh

[dapper prism]

Nawh it's great that the rewards arnt good

[autumn wasp]

u ever just sit there for 2 hours clicking candy

[dapper prism]

It would be terrible game design if the rewards were actually good

[indigo grove]

yeah i know, i just know where to place them instead, they all used to be sit in labs, but now that i have all the currently unlocked nodes (no gems at all yet) running with the blue dude.

[slender sandal]

it almost feels like it is rewarding you for accidentally leaving people in town overnight

[dapper prism]

That's what it is

[slender sandal]

there are a thousand better uses for characters/candy atm

[leaden hemlock]

if it's taking you that long to kill fire sprites don't

go level alchemy

or level characters

[indigo grove]

wait. fractal uses time accidentally left on towns?

[dapper prism]

All the time you are doing "nothing" apparently

[ancient vine]

Oh

[dapper prism]

so those 5mins you leave your dk in the town while you switch to someone else to check on something, should apparantly all add up to the counter, I used to always think it was on the island only 🤷

[ancient vine]

[dapper prism]

Either way, Fractal is pretty terrible

[autumn wasp]

I dont think thats true bruh

i candied 2500

and i sure as hell idled more than 1 hr in town

[dapper prism]

idk, thats what others claimed who have the island unlocked

Keep in mind, it obv only tracks it once you unlocked the island

[autumn wasp]

im like 90% sure its more than an hour

[indigo grove]

why ye candied to 2.5k hours?

[autumn wasp]

cuz i was grinding artifacts

[vapid cove]

it hurts to see

[autumn wasp]

oh an i needed thread to finish the vial

[solid lantern]

Is it possible to print hampsters?

[sick sentinel]

Can only print the top left item on mob card, that is there "base" drop

[solid lantern]

ah

[sick sentinel]

Thats why a red frisbee sample for equinox is possible

[solid lantern]

yeah just redoing prints for vman

and wasnt sure if I could and to push w5 or just w4 for vials

[last pecan]

Quick question, would my pushing bubo "lastdarq" be able to beat Kattlekruk and get into W6 on release?
https://idlearq.idleonefficiency.com/

[sick sentinel]

If ur doing speedrun samples i would mainly do w4 and lower to what you can get to for vials, suggma ashes are fine too

[solid lantern]

i mean yeah, my samples are an absolute mess 😂

though I'm sampling just 1'm for w4 samples so shouldnt be to bad/will have to redo soon

[sick sentinel]

Sry man but this doesnt really tell us much. I can see ur alch is low so i assume most things are the same. We dont know ur furthest map or your dmg

[last pecan]

I hit the Biggole Moles this morning. Bubos dmg range is 120M-260M

Sorry, I thought damage was included on the efficiency page

[autumn wasp]

have u tried killing kruk?

[last pecan]

Not yet, I just had a key drop XD

[sick sentinel]

I'd imagine u'd be fine

Bubo is pretty safe with aura

[last pecan]

alright awesome, I didn't want to burn the key unnecesarily

[sick sentinel]

You'll get more keys, dont forget to start the tired mole quest

[last pecan]

Yeah started it after the key drop (oops!)

ALso when you say alch is low, are there specific bubbles i need to be hard focussing other than FMJ and Shaquracy?

[sick sentinel]

If ur worried, you domt need to fight kruk just yet and can come back when ur stronger

[last pecan]

I just wanted to make sure I had access to World 6 on release

[sick sentinel]

Mainly missing bubbles, min bubbles for nblb are 41 (understandable if ur playtime is around ur discord join date)

Better alch will come with time

[last pecan]

I actually started a year ago and just didn't play for ages. I started putting in the hours around my join time

[sick sentinel]

Makes sense

[short gale]

i want to be able to atom mr massacre 😠

boo

[sick sentinel]

Soon tho

[short gale]

i'm just waiting for those lucky nblb procs pretty much

nothing else i can do

[sick sentinel]

Is that cost on off class without lab vial node?

[short gale]

i think so

it's a yellow bubble so it doesn't get the off class thing right

and my lab is all fucked up rn

[sick sentinel]

Oh duh

[short gale]

dont think vial is connected atm

[drifting breach]

How tf do I get 100,00 of cranium book

Time

Holy shit

[dapper prism]

Always check out keys until you get this achievement:
https://i.imgur.com/UqrCWXr.png

[dapper prism]

reminder on the strategy to disconnect lab vial node to increase cost (or in other cases, using non class specific alt to bubbles)

[ruby yarrow]

Doesn’t it proc only on the lowest bubbles level 5+?

[short gale]

There's a chance with Atom Collider for NBLB to apply to all bubbles

[dapper prism]

Regular NBLB hits bubbles 1-15, lowest bubble thats over lvl 5+
Atom NBLB hits bubbles 16+, 20% for each color, thats also over lvl 5+

[ruby yarrow]

Oh I didn’t know

[ruby yarrow]

Thanks for the info

Hopefully I’ll get tons of rewards for w6 release even if I’m not nearly close to w6

[sacred nexus]

How can i see my min and max nugget?

[solid lantern]

Idle Effiency

[vapid cove]

the orange map in world 5 makes it easy if you can one shot them. i got 120k there

[ruby yarrow]

CC chart, thanks to trickz

[obtuse rover]

As a note for anyone interested:
The wording of the NBLB chance to hit W4 and W5 bubbles is written as "15%"
Mechanically, it actually works out to be a 47.8% chance for each of your daily NBLB procs to hit a W4/5 bubble (assuming all W1-3 bubbles are already higher level)

So close to half of your daily NBLB procs can hit W4/5 bubbles (bubble 16+) each day, on average.

[ruby yarrow]

How many bubble does late game nblb upgrade?

[obtuse rover]

I can't 100% remember.
I think it's like 9 guaranteed per day with a possibility of up to 11?

[short gale]

no kidding,..

[ruby yarrow]

Oh

[obtuse rover]

Maybe 9 is the max? It's very close to that ballpark but I can't remember what all the bonuses are at the moment.

[solid lantern]

i think it was 9 max

1 base, 4 with store thing, chance for a few with the sailing relic

[autumn wasp]

isnt it 3 base

[short gale]

it's 3 base

[hasty lagoon]

1 base 3 with gem

[solid lantern]

ah 3 base?

[solid lantern]

yeah thats what i mean

ok yeah its up to 9

1 base, 3 with merit, 3 with gem, 3 with sailing

9 total

[obtuse rover]

3 from merit, 4 from lab, 2 eldritch artifact, 2 potentially but not guaranteed from gaming

[hasty lagoon]

Yeah I had it backwards it's the level that goes up by 2 lol

[obtuse rover]

So 9 guaranteed, 11 max sometimes with superbits, I think?

[short gale]

so i guess the strategy would be to atom all 16+ bubbles that are lowest to make mr multikill the lowest for highest chance of being nblb'd

[obtuse rover]

If your 16+ bubbles are already higher than your 15 and lower bubbles then the NBLB procs will just hit the lower bubbles, even if they were allowed to choose the higher world ones.

[short gale]

Mr Multikill is in the 16+ group

Not quite atomable

I want NBLB to hit that as much as possible, but there are other 16+ bubbles taking procs

My lowest sub-15 bubbles are 140, my 16+ bubbles are 90+

[ruby yarrow]

Do you buy the sales out of the liquid shop?

[obtuse rover]

Yeah, I'm just saying that it's necessary to make sure all the bubble 1-15 are already higher level than the things you're hoping to have NBLB proc on in bubble 16+, because they'll soak up charges no matter what if they're still lower level.

[short gale]

I see. Yeah, that condition is met for me.

[last pecan]

You mean books?

I always use them

[obtuse rover]

In that case, your top priority is to make sure that bubbles in the same cauldron are at a higher level than the one you want to proc on if possible, and after that you want to prioritize making sure that any bubble higher (closer to the top of the board) and to the right of the one you care about is a higher level.

It's not necessary to actually think so hard about it, but technically that's the optimal way of prioritizing your upgrades.

[drifting breach]

Can I see your bubo stuff cuz I only got 14k

[autumn wasp]

it is very unlikely any sort of tweaking in your set up is gonna bring 14k to 100k

you need to focus on boosting your account in general

[drifting breach]

But like I need to see what to work towarss

I don’t know what to do at all

[autumn wasp]

talent level, cooking roadkill bubble

damage if you are not 1 shotting

[slender sandal]

skill order on bar helps

[drifting breach]

Already did that mela, and I have one tap easy on oranges

[slender sandal]

but if you're that far away it's probably just needing more account progress

[autumn wasp]

choco chip, crystal spawn chance

[drifting breach]

Idk what type of progress I need tho

[obtuse rover]

Higher max talent level

[autumn wasp]

200 tent, 210 aura

[slender sandal]

raise dead skill level, CC talent level, bubble level/equipped (if you're not a Dooter), etc

[drifting breach]

Got coco chip and have cc at 195

[slender sandal]

how is your mana post box

[drifting breach]

I don’t even do it that would prob help

[slender sandal]

you should be easily getting it unless your CC bubble is actual trash

[obtuse rover]

Max book tenteyecle

and Aura

[drifting breach]

Cc bubble level should I have?

[slender sandal]

as high as you can go

[drifting breach]

What do u have

[slender sandal]

100+ probably but more is always better

i'm at 180 on the bubble and getting 240k plus on wurms

[drifting breach]

Damn

I should unlock worms on bubo

[slender sandal]

what's your skill order on your bars?

[autumn wasp]

are you using canister or aura to kill stuff on bubo?

[slender sandal]

it's doable anywhere though that's ag ood map

cans/floms/oranges/wurms

[drifting breach]

Dead,aura,fart monster,cc

[drifting breach]

Aura

Canister can’t one tap

[autumn wasp]

what level is your tent?

[zealous niche]

Put cc first

[zealous niche]

That would help

[drifting breach]

Then what

[zealous niche]

Everything else same order, but cc goes first

[drifting breach]

Ok

[zealous niche]

So CC, raise dead, Aura, fart ghost

[obtuse rover]

There's a tremendous amount of heavy lifting needed to 5-10x their CC time though.

[slender sandal]

trying to figure out what is missing since all the stats/etc seem fine

[drifting breach]

Mom

[zealous niche]

You have at least a level in canister, have that? Otherwise fart ghost doesn’t do damage

[drifting breach]

Ok*

[autumn wasp]

maybe they using a staff

[obtuse rover]

Are we sure that the bubo actually has the CC bubble equipped?

[drifting breach]

Yeah I have canister

[drifting breach]

I have sheep

[obtuse rover]

And you're using a spear or gloves?

[drifting breach]

And he has it eqquiped

Gloves

Should I use spear?

[zealous niche]

Did you have tenteyecle above 200? Didn’t see if you said that earlier

[drifting breach]

And should I be on auto

[drifting breach]

It’s not

[zealous niche]

Gloves/spear are the aame

[zealous niche]

That’s your problem

[autumn wasp]

there we go

[drifting breach]

But it’s at 164

[obtuse rover]

It's still a surprisingly low CC in my mind even without 200.

[drifting breach]

*174

[zealous niche]

Tenteyecle at 200 reduces the time 3s a pop instead of 2

[obtuse rover]

Always prioritize maxing it

[zealous niche]

So it’s a 50% increase in time gain

Plus the extra chance to proc

[drifting breach]

Ok how do I get that if I only have max book 80 and 100 points in extra talent level

[zealous niche]

Get more max book

Books max at 245

[slender sandal]

sailing relic is a huge source of it

[drifting breach]

Bro how

[obtuse rover]

What does it mean to have a max book of 80? The default is 100, isn't it?

[zealous niche]

Salt lick has some, there’s an achievement for some max talent

[drifting breach]

My bad 180

[drifting breach]

Maxxed

[obtuse rover]

Mainly have a high level ES, get the artifact (and make it eldritch), use bear sign, get the companion that gives levels, and use the Symbols talent to push yourself up to 200

[zealous niche]

This is the biggest singular source

[drifting breach]

Campion is aids and have ancient on relic

[summer glacier]

I been trying for that for weeks still no luck

[obtuse rover]

I also think companions are pretty aids.

[drifting breach]

Actually no I don’t

[torn maple]

so the rift makes certain skill card bonuses passive, does it do that for sailing cards?

[ruby yarrow]

I think so

[ruby yarrow]

Not 100% sure, not there yet

[obtuse rover]

Are there non-passive sailing cards in the first place?

[slender sandal]

i think all sailing cards are automatically passive

there's only 1 or 2 anyway

[torn maple]

when the rift says it makes them passive it means that you don't have to equip them for the bonus to affect you, right?

from rift skill mastery

[zealous niche]

What else am I missing, that’s 110 max book sources there

Where’s the other 35?

[torn maple]

lava should rlly add sailing to that. dont wanna keep adding kruk and crawler

[torn maple]

there's that one achievement wher eyou have to check out like 1k books

[obtuse rover]

But they're default passive, aren't they?

[drifting breach]

Bro I need help to get more atoms in only at a few per day

[zealous niche]

Posted that

[zealous niche]

Oak samples is where most atom income comes from

[drifting breach]

Omg I’m at 1.63x

[crystal adder]

What does cleaning up your IE means?

[torn maple]

you need to equip them for them to work. unlike skills like mining, where if you have 750 overall levels and unlocked skill mastery in rift, all mining cards are active even if not equipped

[drifting breach]

I don’t know if I should resamplr

[zealous niche]

Fury, salt lick, achievement, atoms, where’s the other 35 books?

[torn maple]

you got eldrtich fury or just ancient?

[torn maple]

does that mean you don't have to equip it for it to work?

[drifting breach]

Normal just set all boats to it

[obtuse rover]

Anything that says passive doesn't need to be equipped.

[torn maple]

oh word

[slender sandal]

or has the (p)

[autumn wasp]

merit i think

[summer glacier]

gl i been trying for weeks doing 2hr claims

[zealous niche]

Merit!

75 from fury, 5 achieve, 20 salt lick, 10 atom, 10 merit.

120 out of 145 there

[slender sandal]

slug pet gives +25 levels

[obtuse rover]

I think AJ's looking just for true book limit increases

[zealous niche]

That’s to current talent not max book

Trying to help @drifting breach get 200 tenteyecle

[summer glacier]

guessing it was 125 at base then all those bonuses makes total 245

[last pecan]

You still need Fury to get over 200 right?

Maximum I can achieve without it is 195

[obtuse rover]

If you just want over 200 for tenteyecle it's technically doable without fury

[summer glacier]

wouldn't it be 165 without fury?

well 170

[zealous niche]

Hm was it? I can’t remember

[obtuse rover]

Between ES family bonus, companion bonus, bear god, and all the random bonuses like that you can get higher.

[old portal]

how good is this eldritch?

for sampling

[summer glacier]

think so cause it wouldn't make sense for it to be 100 at base like great I unlocked this building that does nothing without unlocks

[last pecan]

omg I didn't level ES family bonus

[obtuse rover]

People are able to push talent levels of >300 right now, and since fury contributes a maximum of 75 levels, it is technically possible to get over 200 without any help from fury relic.

[last pecan]

I'm at 195 and am desperately trying to hit 200 so Bubo can go brrr

[old portal]

any good thing to prioritize for eldritch? other than the MK one and all stats

[summer glacier]

yeah I meant 170 max from just books

[autumn wasp]

dis is my alt

with 1 point in the merit

[obtuse rover]

Yeah, with 0 fury relic forms the max raw book level you can get would be 170, you're right.

[autumn wasp]

so 125 it is

[zealous niche]

Thank you!

[zealous niche]

@drifting breach

Then the current talent boosts like symbols, slug, ES family bonus, bear

[last pecan]

so if I book the ES talent that should get me to talent level 200 with all the other bonuses right?

[summer glacier]

how long did it take to unlock eldritch on fury for yall

[slender sandal]

it's completely rng 🙂

w5 is infuriating

[autumn wasp]

i got spooned like 2 weeks

[torn maple]

is it meta to have 2 bb or 2 es if i have doot?

[autumn wasp]

if by bb u mean bubo then yes

2 bubos

[clear quartz]

lol

[torn maple]

cool thanks will change that now

[ruby yarrow]

I hope there will be 13-14 characters in total later on

[last pecan]

someone told me it's meta until you get talent level 200

after that it's inconsequential as you can refresh Cranium cooking really quickly

[autumn wasp]

its probably not worth the class change

until you see w6

[torn maple]

fair enough, i'll have a think about it

[torn maple]

surely bubo is good bc of just faster alchemy, or am i crazy?

[autumn wasp]

what DARQs said is fair the difference is pretty small

[dapper prism]

It's not the meta, a meta is something you should do and go for, even then it's barely worth switching

Even without 200+tente you can still bring your CC cd down to under an hour per cycle very easily from the 16-20h base cooldown.

So even if you wanted 2 bubos and switched them, it would still not really save you any time

[zinc torrent]

what's the best class for the 500 mobs in 5 minutes rift? I'm doing siege breaker but i can't get past 450

[torn maple]

well you can get cranium cooking to low 300s nowadays

[dapper prism]

Something with better AOE like bubo and/or DK. Can also play somewhat manually to make sure your stuff is placed properly

[torn maple]

takes 10 minutes with the cooldown skin to get it going again

[obtuse rover]

No, the family talent things are weird. They don't properly affect other characters.

You just need to raise your ES character level if you want a stronger bonus for other characters.

[sharp igloo]

I just resampled my prints on all 10 characters and it took like 5 hours lol