lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[molten hearth]

yea i want to but i am caped on mats from the shop

[tacit tulip]

That prayer, constellations, and stamps will be your main friends if there's no bags you can craft

[ruby yarrow]

if I want the WIS stamp, from mining, what vein would be the best?

also does the ores multiplier when mining affect this drop chance?

[calm steeple]

highest you can hit, or crystal carrots

[burnt sail]

Also make sure you have 62 mining speed if you mine for it.

[ruby yarrow]

how

[calm steeple]

mining and skilling speed%, but crystals are probably faster

[burnt sail]

Food.

[ruby yarrow]

crystals are faster?

[calm steeple]

if you have a decent crystal spawn rate then yeah

[burnt sail]

Did you look at the drop rate chart he shared? It's 1 in 11k from a crystal vs 1 in 513k max from mining.

But, you can candy mining. You can't candy crystals.

[ruby yarrow]

is there a way to see how much you have?

[calm steeple]

IE shows it

[ruby yarrow]

I'll check

[manic moat]

Is there any kind of critter/trapping guide out there? how to set up which critters to trap?

[ruby yarrow]

ok my spawn rate isn't decent

[calm steeple]

what is it?

[ruby yarrow]

1 in 1 350

[calm steeple]

oh

you should work on that if you can

crystals are really important

[ruby yarrow]

I can get cards

to see how much I get after it

[calm steeple]

crystallin stamp, crystals 4 days star talent, poop+genie cards, luck po box

[ruby yarrow]

I don't have this star talent

[calm steeple]

its from picnic stowaway

[ruby yarrow]

I didn't do his quests

[calm steeple]

they're not very hard

[ruby yarrow]

fine I'll do it

[calm steeple]

👍

[ruby yarrow]

but I don't have any other star points to spend

[burnt sail]

Then do Constellations.

[sharp imp]

I need some player insight:
I have my characters in the lab, so that they can level up in that and also gain the lab exp, but that means that they are stuck in there and can't progress or do anything else besides printer. So should I use the lab god (The 2. one) for lab being passive and switch to the first one instead?

So far 6 of my chars are "stuck" in there

[burnt sail]

Max out chip slots first. It's pretty standard to have a bunch of characters wasting away in lab. You could swap to goat God so that you also get Divinity xp/points, too.

[hollow dagger]

Is it normal to use copper boots in w5

[burnt sail]

Unless you get doot companion, you'll most likely always have 4-6 people "stuck" in lab.

[torpid wyvern]

yes they are endgame boots

[heavy moth]

finaly

[stray valve]

nope

[ruby yarrow]

is this possible to greenstack stowaway's tea

[stray valve]

you can use bear

xD

[tacit tulip]

can but shouldn't

[stray valve]

try

[tacit tulip]

(I do)

[eternal mantle]

bear is bad

[burnt sail]

I mean, you can, but it's not optimal.

[ruby yarrow]

I don't want to

[sharp imp]

Do it for the meme

[stray valve]

try to also greenstack green pickle from shop

[heavy moth]

only 3 left

[stray valve]

go for 200 stacks

[tacit tulip]

waves is probably obtainable quicker

[teal lynx]

TD should be easy for you

[heavy moth]

yea working on it atm at 176

[stray valve]

why so low

[heavy moth]

lazyness for craftanble

[stray valve]

get less lazier

[heavy moth]

and quest item XD

yea finishing stats from toilet petethen goldrich

[stray valve]

i will wait for w9 for 200 stacks

[proper berry]

What are the most optimal stats for w5 when you want to get to the soul thing for worship

[heavy moth]

ahahha at w6 it will be easy i bet

[stray valve]

I am at 86 stacks or something

[heavy moth]

😛 missing alot of ressource and monster mat at 86 😛

[stray valve]

i think

idk what i am missing

[eternal mantle]

everything

[stray valve]

should be somewhere on ie or toolbox green stack missing count

i would consider doing them if there was thing

[viral snow]

there is a list in tips and tricks atleast

[manic moat]

toolbox, account, storage, sort by greenstack

[stray valve]

i mean

some of these take 1 candy or so XD

[ruby yarrow]

my crystal rate is now 1 in 442, is this enough to start farming for the stamp?

[calm steeple]

id go for lower really

thats not great

[ruby yarrow]

I know

[tacit tulip]

that's a world 1 quest right? You'll probably get it by chance quite quickly

the quests requirements are pretty much "kill a crystal mob"

[calm steeple]

other stamp (book)

[crystal adder]

My drop rarity on my es is only 7.77x

[calm steeple]

do you have the crystallin stamp tho

[ruby yarrow]

yes

[crystal adder]

Is that low or

[tacit tulip]

1/500 is without any buffs - it's near nothing

[ruby yarrow]

thats my things

[calm steeple]

why is shrine 0

[ruby yarrow]

which shrine is it?

[ruby yarrow]

I don't have it

[calm steeple]

???

what's your build rate

[viral snow]

then get it

[ruby yarrow]

low

[calm steeple]

whats the best shrine you have

[ruby yarrow]

...clover

I forgot I had to build shrine when I stopped because of rooted souls

[calm steeple]

can you get the last couple shrines easily?

[ruby yarrow]

maybe, but with a low build rate

[calm steeple]

still get them

[ruby yarrow]

what do you think is a low build rate for where I am?

[viral snow]

what is your BR then ?

[ruby yarrow]

15.6k...

[unkempt quest]

Yes that's low

[calm steeple]

can i see your cogboard

[eternal mantle]

are you focusing on construction xp

[plush beacon]

what should i buy?

[viral snow]

Doot

[plush beacon]

wdym doot

[eternal mantle]

get foot

[calm steeple]

gamba

[ruby yarrow]

flags take so long

[calm steeple]

are you using xp cogs

[viral snow]

Companion doot

[plush beacon]

i have doot but im asking about gems

[calm steeple]

is that a yes or no

[eternal mantle]

barely

fix that

[calm steeple]

oh dear

only xp cogs

forever

[eternal mantle]

focus only ur squires

Everyone else on cogs

make xp cogs

[calm steeple]

get everyone outta there except squires and try to get direction +player xp% cogs

[hollow dagger]

wow copper boots are endgame and i have it thx noshiro

[ruby yarrow]

I already have 3 on superb cogs

[calm steeple]

and replace all BR cogs with xp

purple cogs

?

[ruby yarrow]

level too low

[calm steeple]

then everyone else on the gold cogs

also you need these 2

[plush beacon]

what i should buy there for gems

[ruby yarrow]

should I equip it only on squires

[torpid wyvern]

doot

[calm steeple]

whoever needs cons xp i guess

[calm steeple]

do you have all the world bonuses?

[plush beacon]

no and i dont know which i have to but first

[calm steeple]

1 bleach cauldron, infinity hammer, crystal printer

all card slots, 1-2 good kitchens

and gamba jewels if you dont have them all

[chrome tiger]

what is your threshold for encouraging vs leveling up snail..

[plush beacon]

okayy

[calm steeple]

gamba gamba gamba

[vocal ibex]

Is today world 6 release ?

[calm steeple]

yep

[tacit tulip]

we're not even expecting it in november

[daring ravine]

if thats all the mobs there is (if lava didnt hide any) we only have 9
all other worlds have like 11-15 (not including optional maps)

[vocal ibex]

Okay because I have my app to auto update but it doesn't..

Mofo waits until I miss the update that day and I end up missing first day of gains

[daring ravine]

i dont think it will even release this or next month

[tacit tulip]

with the world 5 release we saw a lot of time spent on the ui/design of the w5 skills

we can likely expect the same here

[true saddle]

i dont think we will be getting w6 for a long time tbh

he only said its the next "big" update

there can be alot of small ones before 1 big one

[calm gust]

Any tips for gaming? (Skill)

[vocal ibex]

Equinox for nuggets helps gaming

[calm gust]

What about kitsune rock?

[vocal ibex]

No idea what that is bahahahaha

[calm gust]

It is 4x growth speed 3x less bits

[runic girder]

Use it

[calm gust]

Also does the gem sprinkler upgrade at the max give 100 chance to save sprinkler

[runic girder]

That would be literally infinite bits lol

[calm gust]

Last question do I upgrade speed with kitsune rock or without

[runic girder]

?

[calm gust]

Like for the upgrade it would be 30min instead of 2 hours so which is more profitable

[runic girder]

Yes

[vocal ibex]

How much time should I invest in shrine upgrades ? I only have them the highest is 19.

[calm gust]

So I do upgrade with rock on?

[runic girder]

Use kitsune if you check atleast semi regularly

[calm gust]

Ok thx!

[runic girder]

Place them w4 (without doot) w5 (with doot) and then ignore them for the rest of your life

[vocal ibex]

What the level they should be though

[runic girder]

Theres no level they 'should be'

[calm gust]

Btw does having 2 of the bit multiplier from divine knight stack

[vocal ibex]

Okay so another one for you. I have the all might foot. He there a skill or something in lab maybe or a God that says If I have players in lab it counts as being in divinity. Do they get dinividy points also?

[runic girder]

No

[calm gust]

REALLY?? that's a waste

[runic girder]

All might foot??

[vocal ibex]

Doot

D and the f are close together

[runic girder]

You still need them in divinity to get divinity points

[vocal ibex]

😆

[calm gust]

ALLMIGHTY FEET!🦶

[runic girder]

?

[teal lynx]

You get divinity points when they are in Lab based on the style they are using

[calm gust]

Ask the best best helper Wiki

[runic girder]

Except with doot it doesnt matter if you place them lab or divinity

[vocal ibex]

If I have my characters in lab with divinity level 80 they get that bonus then ?

[runic girder]

They still need to physically be in either one of them

[teal lynx]

There is not a single reason why they should be on the Div altar instead of Lab with Doot

[vocal ibex]

Sweet I'm stick them in lab with the lvl 80 prayer

[runic girder]

Does being in lab not give you 0 divinity xp?

[lapis mesa]

well, thats as far as i go

[teal lynx]

Goat God?

Enabled via Doot

[vocal ibex]

I am thinking I should wait to move them into lab since my shrines are about 60-75 percent to their next level. Or should I move them now ? Would be throwing away couple hundred hours though.

Is the loss worth or naw

[teal lynx]

If you say a couple hundred... how many are u exactly talking about?

[vocal ibex]

Like 200 to almost 500

[calm gust]

Wait does king doot make it so you can divinity exp and points anywhere and have all divinity gods active??

[teal lynx]

Kinda

You get every God active yes

[calm gust]

Wyddm

[teal lynx]

You don't get Div Exp and points from anywhere

Goat/Goharut gives you Points and XP when physically connected to lab

[granite grove]

you still need to be manually in lab (or altar but why if doot) to get div exp, until you got Tranqi in div but then you only get exp and not pts

[calm gust]

We need detailed wiki XD

[zinc torrent]

Is going from lustre tools to red tools a good enough reason to sample again or not really?

[vocal ibex]

I just ask a lot and they answer with exquisite knowledge

[teal lynx]

You could move them if you want. But if you gonna push W5 on some characters or something you could also let them there
Doot shrine spots is normally W5 or W1. You got Doot therefore you gonna leave Lab at some point and W4 Town will be bad for Shrines then. Really depends on what you want

200-500 is still low when you need 2.2m hours for one level in shrines later on. You wouldn't lose too much

[vocal ibex]

Will be back shortly after I briefly check something.

[storm kelp]

do you guys focus family obols on only DR as well or do you swap or just a mix?

[dreamy igloo]

Im so excited for a new character slot im thinking bubo but leveling them up to the current fisticuffs level and then assign to bubo. just saw a void walker with a royal bayonet lol

[teal lynx]

Family also DR. You could argue going for W5 Boss obols for the extra afk gains (only when not farming active), but I personally find it too annoying always switching the obols

[proper berry]

Boss is already avaible?

[teal lynx]

A few months now xd

[vocal ibex]

Okay I just checked lab. Most of them are level 75ish on lab except the 2 makes that have about 90. Does it take long to get it to level 100? I believe I only need to get the lab levels to 100 on all for the bonuses.

[storm kelp]

yeah I will not be switching lol. Too much hassle

[lapis mesa]

W5 boss yeah, for a bit

[proper berry]

Mean you can acess world 6?

Or gem Dosent drop

[lapis mesa]

it gives an IOU

[teal lynx]

You can also get one person to lvl 200. You need a combined level of 1000 not 100 on everyone
XP really depends on your Multipliers, can't help you too much. Only thing I can tell you after 5 months my highest is lvl 201 lab

[safe knoll]

Nah, u need way higher lab levels, I have a Bubo on like 190lvl in lab and everyone else like 130 lvl

[teal lynx]

They have Doot. Not technically necessary

[proper berry]

That’s actucally really funny and while we’re on world 5 from molti those volcano dudes how many portals am I away from the worship of that world

[teal lynx]

Molti and another portal

Hopefully you are pushing with multikill

[red crescent]

Anyone know if the Dragonic cauldron is worth the gems?

[lapis mesa]

yes

[safe knoll]

I got doot aswell still grinding lab levels

[red crescent]

Over other stuff?

[proper berry]

I am pushing so deep with multi kill -.-

[safe knoll]

I bought it

[red crescent]

Okay, I'll nab it then

[teal lynx]

Huh? You should already have everything lit up with ease

[safe knoll]

I do I wanna get higher lab levels for some reason, all of my guys are above 130

[zinc torrent]

There's nothing after bloodbones. Isn't there supposed to be a map?

[teal lynx]

Equinox Valley

[zinc torrent]

Where it at

[teal lynx]

Bloodbones drop a mirror

[zinc torrent]

Oh they just dropped it. Is it permanent or need it everytime?

[safe knoll]

It's permanent

[teal lynx]

Just cuz you want more Lab levels doesn't mean it is worth it for everyone to waste precious time

[safe knoll]

I mean I got 2 bubos cuz I was dumb, so I got no reason not to leave one in the lab only need 1 active bubo

[zinc torrent]

What happens when equinox bar fills up?

[teal lynx]

Getting your other skills up, farming materials, GETTTING GMUSH. Is better then going for wasted Lab XP when you have Doot. But you do you

[zinc torrent]

It is at 1.6/163

[teal lynx]

You can upgrade one of the upgrades

[lapis mesa]

when the bar fills you can pick an upgrade

[red crescent]

Getting GMush?

[safe knoll]

Yea I've thought about getting Gmush but I'd rather have higher lab I'm weird.

[teal lynx]

Green Mushroom, every 1 M kills gives you more Money, based on the Lab Node

But then don't recommend that guy to spent months in Lab Prison when he has Doot

[vocal ibex]

Ty

[paper sail]

Finally getting my Gmush up this last month and it feels pretty nice

[safe knoll]

I mean if I like spending time in the lab others would probably like it no?
And if they have 2 bubos might as well leave one in

[lapis mesa]

mines only 250 mil, trying to get SB to 400 before i send him back to the mushroom fields

[paper sail]

Dropped 150k Godshard on stamp day yesterday. Hurt my soul just a smidge, but progress

[red crescent]

Does that mean it's worth crystal farming on gmush rather than beans because of the bonus?

[safe knoll]

I've thought about that very same question

[red crescent]

2 birds with 1 stone kinda deal

[safe knoll]

It makes sense to me

[pearl cedar]

No it doesnt

[red crescent]

Why not?

[paper sail]

It isn't the best at either.

[pearl cedar]

Cause candy is cheap and statues are important

[red crescent]

You don't use candies to farm statues

Unless you mean use all your candies on gmush

[paper sail]

That's their point lol

[pearl cedar]

You use candy to farm gmush and beans to farm statues

[red crescent]

Right

I more mean doing crystal farming active on gmush to get both

[paper sail]

Active time is limited. Do the best, active-only things you can with that time.

[red crescent]

Yeah, thay makes sense

Oh crap

[pearl cedar]

Why would you go for 50-75% statue rates, when you can make up any "supposed loss" with 1 candy

[red crescent]

Thats fair

I just checked my companion time and apprently it's in 30 hours??? I thought it reset at the beginning of the week...

[gaunt shale]

I 100 am going to continue using them to farm certain skilling statues

[gaunt shale]

it resets exactly 7 days after your last claim

[tacit tulip]

thought it was like 6 days 20 hours, as I can usually do it slightly earlier each week

[paper sail]

It is a few hours under 7 days, yeah

[gaunt shale]

oh thought it was exactly 7, but yeh sadly its since last claim so need pay attention to it

[paper sail]

I'd rather it be weekly reset

[barren otter]

@signal osprey what speed do I need on kraken to survive 150 I lost with .44

[signal osprey]

Daily reset*

[barren otter]

citric*

[paper sail]

Mine has already drifted forward 1.5 days from forgetting to claim

[teal lynx]

But then you would have more chances for Doot. That wouldn't be good

[cyan spoke]

when should I start atom collider?

[signal osprey]

I don't remember what I had exactly but I generally aim for .40 in most TD's

[gaunt shale]

never, it auto atoms when reaching 1050m even when not turned on

not worth turning stuff you dont get over 1050 from prints into atoms

[barren otter]

hmm I had 4 AAAA parties and 1 AAA

idk if I can hit .40

[signal osprey]

Were all krakens 20?

[barren otter]

no

all but 1

[signal osprey]

Thats more important than poison

[barren otter]

I did take poison to 20 not knowing if I had the dmg

[signal osprey]

150 shouldnt really be too much of a dps issue with equinox

Plus as long as you survive the wave you'll get money from killing the mobs you can then spend on poison

[barren otter]

I'll try again with 5 parties at AAAA but I'm not really sure if that gets me to .4

• the last 20 kraken

[dapper prism]

use vman during void run with mk buff up

[storm kelp]

Spend days and weeks and months to study all the multipliers. Or that is what it feels like to me

[paper sail]

Damage for multikill tiers, multikill %, afk gains, enemy respawn, maxed 90% sample rate.

[paper sail]

Vman supreme though, as Trickz points out. Reaching the final w4 enemy might be tough though.

[plush beacon]

why vman i so good at sampling?

[paper sail]

I'm guessing if your current sample is only 108, you're nowhere near ready to reach Stilted Seekers on a speedrun

[dapper prism]

It's mk/tier talent buff

also boss kills = more mob respawn by huge amonut

[paper sail]

They have a talent which increases Multikill per Tier by a huge amount while inside a speedrun. They also get higher respawn% after killing a world boss inside a speedrun. Combine both and you get really high monster samples.

[dapper prism]

Get around 45-50% mob respawn per boss kill then another ~2000% MK/tier from active talent

[true obsidian]

it's only lv 60 cap now but i'm so happy about this, look beautiful.

[plush beacon]

where i should put point now?

[paper sail]

Do you still have locked build slots?

[true obsidian]

now i'm sure i can do wave 100 goblin

[safe harness]

checkout books and max the first talent

[serene solstice]

when you want to prepare for another speedrun just increase the max lvl of first skill and bump all in that

[true obsidian]

in lab?

[plush beacon]

and then what i should upgrade?

[serene solstice]

so you have more time for more portals

[paper sail]

Looks like you only have 6 of the 8 build slots available in construction

[serene solstice]

for speedrun you upgrade first 3 talents as high as possible best would be the max book you can get rn

[true obsidian]

ah, yea, i'm not unlock all the build slots...too poor for that

[paper sail]

Reaching 60 without that is impressive. Get more gems now

[true obsidian]

i am, but draconic cauldron first

[paper sail]

Valid choice

[true obsidian]

atom is lv 51 and first 5 shrines lv 100 :v

[storm kelp]

Why does idleon toolbox tell me that I am at a wall with printing goldfish when I am at 1050 mil? I thought it turned to atoms then if I had atom collider on?

[true obsidian]

i do all that before i bought 2 more build slots XD

and equinox update

[tacit tulip]

there's a hard cap of 1050m of an item even without the collider - any leftover will be converted to atoms

[dapper prism]

you dont need auto collider on, always keep it set at 1050m and off, and 1050 is item cap

[tacit tulip]

this limit is in place due to an overflow bug on mobile where having 2100m of an item causes the stack to despawn

[storm kelp]

Yes, hence why I asked why it tells me I am at a wall but not for oak or copper

[paper sail]

They do convert to particles after 1050m. The warning is in place on IT in case you are wanting a notification to spend them before the next printer cycle.

[dapper prism]

no clue what you mean with at a all though?

[storm kelp]

ok but I never got this warning for oak or copper. strange

[true obsidian]

soon

[tacit tulip]

probably because oak and copper are primary resource generators but goldfish aren't

[paper sail]

You can customize the alerts on your dashboard. Oak and Copper are off by default.

[safe knoll]

More Dmg, multi kill and you need to get 90% sample rate

[vapid cove]

quick question for the active bubo its better for me to put a lot into rate right before capacity

[paper nova]

How does a loot chance / boat speed captain compare to a chest chance/boat speed? Is chest chance just not worth it?

[vapid cove]

technically just loot amount is the only thing you need but loot/ boat speed is also good if you're struggling with distance

[paper nova]

Gonna lvl this guy to lvl 100 and then fight the elite 4

[frail schooner]

remember the rival at the end

[short gale]

the equivalent of a lvl 2 ratata

[paper sail]

At least Ratata can evolve lol

I'll always take the chance to show off my shitty ms paint Tsunderaticate

[pine yacht]

damn... fixing my cooking fixed most of my shit ...

who'd have tought...

just lvling the Vman talent and cooking some fastfood I got my cooking speed talent from 0.2B to 24B

[dapper prism]

vman talent is very exponential

love it

[pine yacht]

legit doubled my dmg as well

[tacit tulip]

first thing getting a 20 book when next max talent comes out

[pine yacht]

I didnt luck out but didnt get dogshit luck either on this one, did like 3-4 books and got 84 as highest

[dapper prism]

i assume you talking about the trophy boss one?

[viral snow]

Why got my bro that lucky lad drip
https://i.imgur.com/A85jMPP.png

[pine yacht]

ye

lul

[junior delta]

is the fifth evo really really rare or i am understanding something wrong

[glad crow]

do you even need stormcaller anymore?

or do you only need kraken posion and void?

[dapper prism]

every new evo is rarer.

[stray valve]

i guess since healing mobs doesn't heal

unless you can kill them w/o separating them

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/Nwpg9tQ.png

[marsh wraith]

so what u want is like 1 sec growth time to hit t7 plants

[crystal adder]

Where do u check your crystal mob chances?

[dapper prism]

still use it in most maps since it's essentially 1 tower that doubles your dmg,. You're still limited by the timer

[dapper prism]

IE and Toolbox

[stray valve]

wait 14.7k days

[crystal adder]

Thank you sir

[dapper prism]

You get t6's easily in a day later on as you need to consider chem trains and log skips etc

When first* going for t6's it'll be more like 2-4 days each though

[stray valve]

i am at 26 mins per plant and 50k nugget

[dapper prism]

Typically keep kitsune turned on to hit t5 chems faster for better chains

[marsh wraith]

once my plant time got to 2 mins i got all the t6 in like a week

[pine yacht]

everyone here flexing their god damn chems ...

gaming seriously needs a pitty timer for plant unlocks ...

[viral snow]

Skill issue

[pine yacht]

it's been 4 months ...

[dapper prism]

Probably arnt gaming efficiently then

[viral snow]

are you rolling on 0.1% ?

[pine yacht]

no I was just stuck on evergreen for like 3 months

[pine yacht]

yes

[viral snow]

git gud then

[pine yacht]

[marsh wraith]

welcome to idleon

[crystal adder]

What does zow and czow means

[dapper prism]

zow chow superchow
100k, 1m, 100m kills on BB

for different buffs like dmg or cooking effy

If you have 2x BB, superchow only works on 2nd BB for some reason.

[pearl quail]

wtf is a superchow

[marsh wraith]

he is gonna fix 2x BB "soon"

[dapper prism]

unlocked through vman Eclipse talent

[pearl quail]

oh

I never knew

[dapper prism]

Yes, but by that time you'll be busy doing stuff in w8 pretty sure

[vapid cove]

1 million kills with blood berserker on the berserker tab for more cooking speed n stuff

[marsh wraith]

getting chows for lvl 120 meals

[vapid cove]

per different mob

[dapper prism]

It's technically map based, not mob based

Each different zone with mobs

[pine yacht]

wait... why cant I access suggestions ...

[vapid cove]

and some count for kills even if theyre the same mob

[dapper prism]

Yes. thats why i said it's map/zone based

[vapid cove]

like the poopys with dr def and the nutto at the base of the tree

and the mimic chest in front of the dung

[dapper prism]

I should do the equinox ones

[rough crest]

finally got it!
took 39.1 million kills but finally got my gloves

[dapper prism]

39m with mk?

[rough crest]

mk?

[dapper prism]

multi kill

[rough crest]

i dont do enough for multi kill aside from one of them at x2

everyone else was raw dogging it at base kill rate

[dapper prism]

I never understand why people hard grind suggmas so early on

[eternal dove]

Honestly by this point it's not a bug. It's a feature

[fallow aurora]

anyone know the minimum party starter level to use this setup?

[dapper prism]

that setup is wrong

[rough crest]

cause i feel weird having blank spaces in my anvil
now im working on stalkers for the shoes and im safe till world 6

[dapper prism]

For starters, wouldnt make sense to put party starters at the bottom when you still have at least 2 spots on the top.

[dapper prism]

Believe this is it: (then 2 more kraken in the bottom right once you can afford the 118k and next one.
https://i.imgur.com/Bb2qiqK.png

[fallow aurora]

ty

my party starters couldn't reach the towers on the far left, so I wanted to know the minimum level

[paper sail]

w5 and endgame both talking about TD, no escape

[dapper prism]

Not sure, but these are the full endgame setups, since dmg becomes a non issue and as long as your towers hits 95% cost reduction with enough range and preferably high cannaloni cooking meal

[spring raptor]

to get the ones on the far end of the platform keeping on range of the tower to the left of the portal, you're probably looking at high 50s/low 60s. I'd have to check but I don't think my towers reach end to end (level 58 right now)

I'd double check it rn but I just burned my worship like ten minutes ago

[tight saddle]

https://i.imgur.com/bC5JtDj.png

Oh my lord.....

Previously 160k :D

[spring raptor]

that's quite the step up

[tacit tulip]

very jealous of peoples jumps

I'm about 10 hours into shovel clicks since equinox and I've hone from 15k to 38k lol

[autumn wasp]

atleast u doubled

i went 225 to 255

[tacit tulip]

lost 3 snail levels in the meantime tho 😄

[blissful fern]

Went from 33k to 36k myself

[tacit tulip]

I'm hoping complaining will get me another increase 😛

40k here I come

[signal osprey]

Nuggets

[tacit tulip]

fully expecting w6 to have something else I need to actively click so hoping to sort gaming out before then

[signal osprey]

W6 will have the next gaming tab

[barren otter]

that can only be done actively*

[zealous niche]

As in on their construction card it’s 95% or is there another weird trick to it?

[lucid olive]

What should my 10th character be

[zealous niche]

Three of each base class and vman

[lucid olive]

Ok I assume I should make a another siege breaker

[zealous niche]

Whatever you’re missing

[marsh wraith]

ur 10th char should be getting quest items

send him to the ketchup mines

[zealous niche]

Greenstack glumlee certs

(Please don’t)

[lucid olive]

Do I make a siege breaker of beast master

I already have one of each

[gaunt shale]

you want the correct meta choice, or the actual correct choice ?

[untold lintel]

is there a lil guide for everything that gives crystal chance? one of my dks is like a good bit off the other

[lucid olive]

What’s the difference

[zealous niche]

SB is the advice I’ve seen everywhere, no idea what Kanna means

[dapper prism]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=crystal

[dapper prism]

Con towers will show like 110% cost red. but it caps at 95%. So hitting at least 95% on towers is a great help on getting towers to their 20s. Along with Cannaloni for the extra TD money
https://i.imgur.com/xgxSXDG.png

[untold lintel]

huh yeah i mean everythings the same idk why, ones 1:45 ones 1:63

[zealous niche]

Thanks!

[dapper prism]

95% is in the early 60s

[dapper prism]

star talent, card doubler, something isnt the same soemwhere, use ie or toolbox and hover crystal chance for the breakdown
https://i.imgur.com/cva3S6O.png

[gaunt shale]

BM is the coolest class around, he one hell of a neat bastard, thought, Lava doesnt think the same way so he scamed the BM out of all oportunities, he never even had a chance man I am telling you, they did him real dirty

meanwhile SB, sure he good, he usefull compared to BM, but man he got fkn privilige, got everything on silver platter and now thinks he is the king of archery, I tell you man we need justice for BM

[dapper prism]

Lava had to make sure BM stays weak because BM and Warlocks were often alweays OP in world of warcraft

[barren otter]

fact

[pallid raptor]

What is the best way to farm for all of the artifacts in the earlier islands

[dapper prism]

Split gold hampter food between all alts kinda equally.
Level up PO box and Bubble for extra passive sailing time
Remove SB talent 11 and check game every 4-6 hours or however often you can. If you only check sailing once a day, keep sb talent 11.

[misty spindle]

its better to just put the minimum chest at level 2 if unlocked

[dapper prism]

No way

[pallid raptor]

I mean like in mid to late game, not even close to golden hamster for everyone nor have enough boxes

[fading oracle]

can anyone link me an aktive bubo build for alchemy progress?

[dapper prism]

This has some basic info to see what talents to use ig.
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[gaunt shale]

why would you think that

[misty spindle]

Do higher level chests give better artifact chance aswell?

[dapper prism]

Yes, but more chests >

[misty spindle]

because you get more chests this way then by letting them upgrade, almost double

[pallid raptor]

I have a 25 chest limit atm

[misty spindle]

thats what I mean, I check once every 20 hours and I get filled with level 2 chests every time

[dapper prism]

With 20 boats that means you have 45 chest cap

[pallid raptor]

I’m extremely active so I check every 2-3 hours

[misty spindle]

then just keep opening them id say

[pallid raptor]

I don’t have 20 boats

[dapper prism]

I just mean, your chest cap is Chest cap + amount of boats if you remove SB talent 11

Since boats come back to the pier with an extra chest

[safe harness]

leave on wood chest, and swap to level 2 at night...... i find that around 19 boats and 18 slots i get full 2+ tier chest at like 8 hours. After they fill up and are waiting, swap to wood chest so you can get all of the chest from boats at dock

[pallid raptor]

But how do I get certain artifacts? Should I send everyone to the same island?

[safe harness]

same island

[pallid raptor]

Until I get the one I want

[dapper prism]

Always send fastest boats to higher islands

Else you will bottleneck yourself

[gaunt shale]

that still makes no sense no ?

if you set it to lvl 2 only your ships make empty trips, so instead of having a chance to upgrade a chest they now made a trip doing nothing but gain some xp, if you only check once 20 hours, its still better to do no chest filter

[safe harness]

we are answering question on how you get the artifact that you want but tricks is correct.... sending to furtherst islands gives better treasure that can be even converted into more gold for maxing your flagship if need be and wont slow down progression which it sounds like you are still doing

[misty spindle]

but if they do get a chest and your cap is full, you get cap+ number of boats and not just the cap amount of chests

[burnt sail]

You get that regardless of what tier chest you set as the minimum though.

[dapper prism]

Like, you never want to have all boats working from left to right (close to far islands) as you will be left with only far islands making half your boats useless. Hence, bottleneck your whole sailing.

Always send the fastest boats to the highest stuff (only exception i would see is Fury then crystal steak) while other lower boats clean up the rest

@pallid raptor

[coral goblet]

friendly reminder get those shiny pets leveling for world 6 if you havent

[misty spindle]

Im just saying you should use minimum tier instead of Sb 11 talent

[dapper prism]

• coming from someone that took 115 days from Reaching W5 to owning all artifacts Eldritch. 😄

[misty spindle]

Do I just use SB 11 and go for higher chests or check more regularly then?

[burnt sail]

But you said put the minimum chest at level 2? That cuts down on chests received.

[misty spindle]

but it doesnt if you can only check once a day

[iron citrus]

Boats wise I finally finished all artifacts enriched, now working on all boats sail speed to 10mil each then I'll go 20mil each. I imagine updates in future

[gaunt shale]

I hope sailing along with gaming just stays forgotten

[iron citrus]

Lol why

[gaunt shale]

cuz its rlly boring skill

[zinc torrent]

Can someone send me best DR card combo?

I'm now farming drop rate cards and then wanna farm DR cards

[burnt sail]

I'm impressed that you could even get all eldritch artifacts before getting 10M speed on all boats.

[pallid raptor]

When does world 6 come out, I won’t be going there anytime soon but I’m hoping candies will be allowed in world 5 soon

[dapper prism]

https://idleontoolbox.com/tools/card-search?c=squire&b=4
Believe this:
https://i.imgur.com/iPAP3Vh.png

[gaunt shale]

with next large update, which is sometime from now and sometime next year

its lava, cant put a date down

[pallid raptor]

That doesn’t help

[dapper prism]

rumor a while back was always before the end of the year

[pallid raptor]

U know some people haven’t done events

[burnt sail]

Nobody except Lava knows so why would you think you'd get an exact answer

[dapper prism]

No clue the source though*

[burnt sail]

Lava sets tentative release dates and then delays for months sometimes.

[zinc torrent]

ty

[pallid raptor]

U know some people haven’t done events yet

[burnt sail]

They asked for the best, though? That's the best.

[pallid raptor]

Ah

[zinc torrent]

My 4th card from top row (event card) is only 2 star

[gaunt shale]

then change the cards you dont have with crystal card, not much that can be dlne

[pallid raptor]

Touché

[dapper prism]

And that's not on me if someone asks for the best

[junior delta]

is there anything else skill related i can add here after getting everything passive

[pallid raptor]

I don’t need to be told the same thing by like four different people

[misty spindle]

Should I level my vman ative or afk, is he hard to level, im talking class level

[dapper prism]

yeh that's a bit not great

https://i.imgur.com/MKYaiZr.png

2nd row 2nd card is mainstat of skill

This would be best for samples and stuff

[pallid raptor]

U and ur ruby cards

Lucky

[gaunt shale]

and we cant read each others mind, so we all just happen to type the same thing at the same time

[dapper prism]

unless you need hunter traps:
https://i.imgur.com/Gt0ITSx.png

[junior delta]

no card gamba:(

[dapper prism]

While im at it i may as well post them all so people can come back here for reference
Tags: My Cards Card Set Sets Setup

What I use for AFK gain/gmush farming etc
https://i.imgur.com/HndgQam.png

Crystals with DR:
https://i.imgur.com/tTF4fLO.png

Crystals for best active XP:
https://i.imgur.com/Jk1q2Zn.png

There, done 😄

[junior delta]

time to save it in my folder

[gaunt shale]

does that really make sense ?

doing a bit CC to push GT does a million times more than active xp cards, and damage goes into pushing you into a higher MK which, unless I am wrong (which is not unlikely) also increases your xp gain active

i could be wrong tho

[dapper prism]

Got some more but i'll probably just toss it all into my sporeadsheet stuff at some point. havnt double checked my cards in a while

[lavish cloak]

these stats can autoattack kill kattlekruk nightmare before he gets healed

[dapper prism]

Active XP is a direct multiplier on your XP rate and not additive like the other crap.
Also i was very sure MK (same as prowess which i know doesnt) would not affect any XP gain making overkills useless.

[misty spindle]

Should I level my vman ative or afk, is he hard to level, im talking class level

[lavish cloak]

afk him at tremor wurms with food

[dapper prism]

Active crystals is nice. Also weekly crystal island runs with maxed xp potions

[gaunt shale]

ah ok, just thought mk does since basic drops and stuff are affected, but ye then it makes sense

[lavish cloak]

activing grind time on bubo does more for him than active voidwalker will

[gaunt shale]

also didnt know active xp cards are their own multiplier, learnd something new today again

[dapper prism]

True, depending on their Bubo CC setup/time and GT level. But also nearly all xp comes from crystals.
Guess it comes down to how many levels they want/need, Easiest will still remain doing weekly Crystal island runs

[calm gust]

Can someone show me a image of their shell in gaming and it's rank

[thorn marsh]

I BELIEVE AGAIN!!

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/jiFXbwS.png

[signal osprey]

Now its nug time

[lavish cloak]

pretty good number

[calm gust]

Fancy shell

[thorn marsh]

I will nug the crap outta this game

[signal osprey]

New top nug incoming

[zinc torrent]

@dapper prism is this good enough?

[thorn marsh]

how does chem even work? does it evolve into chem or is it like that from stage 1?

[dapper prism]

Yeh you'll notice a huge difference with active XP cards.
But that's also why base xp stuff is so bad later on. like my fishing randomly on DK has 22.49x XP, chaotic efaunt 22.5% would make that a 22.71x which is minimal. that's like a 1% increase. Obv it's something but also just eh....
https://i.imgur.com/GMxxqLO.png

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/6otPrbn.png

https://i.imgur.com/PHGA6Ka.png

[thorn marsh]

cheers

[tacit tulip]

I have no idea how you guys manage to hourly click, I've been going a day and already want to top myself

[thorn marsh]

so it's just like the others

tell me about it sakori

[dapper prism]

That's why I don't do it, it would ruin the game for me

[signal osprey]

Should keep berries too in chem loops

Thats your biggest source of bits and gaming exp both

[gaunt shale]

i just set an alarm and do other stuff in the meantime

[signal osprey]

Never harvest a berry before T4

[dapper prism]

funny enough my 3d prints are setup for like 5 bubbles though, which dont get clicked unless im bothered to during my 3d print brggh

[tacit tulip]

I just have my bubo generating water, leaving it on GT page

when I remember to check I also click the bubles

seems to be working, but god does it feel like I'm not gettign anywhere

[gaunt shale]

its a really long, uneventfull marathon

[tacit tulip]

on the plus side I've gone up like 1k GT today

[dapper prism]

But need that space for better nuggets >:)

[vapid warren]

Anything you guys recommend I spend my hampters on first?

[signal osprey]

By that logic no point in keeping cactus either then

[tacit tulip]

I also only had 10 godshard when I started so this is nice

[sleek ermine]

he is gonna have to make new money world 6

[dapper prism]

eh, low cycle time = easy tiers on chem early on

[sleek ermine]

because stacking godshards its a little booring

[signal osprey]

With low cycle time you'll get every chem to T4+ every time you use a chem though

[pine yacht]

with how much main stat is magma gear better than kattle

[steady beacon]

When farming w3 statues on ES, should I be prioritizing damage (ie multi kill) or DR? At the moment, with a DR of 12.5, I'm only getting around 350 statues per hour.

[dapper prism]

sorry meant high*

[signal osprey]

The only thing cactus does is help level shell a little faster

[sleek ermine]

if you want just statues its always Dr, multikill doesnt give more statues

[junior delta]

yay alot of afk gains

[dapper prism]

Dmg helps higher wormhole kills too for better DR

[fading oracle]

ES or DK to farm yellow snowflakes?

[junior delta]

is there anything here better for sampling, everything else is inffinity star

[zinc torrent]

At what point should i start farming crystals with DK? (I don't have choco chip)

[dapper prism]

Little broad term as there's differnet things.
If you dont have dice obols yet, you could/should farm those early on either way, since DR is great

[tacit tulip]

yeah, don't do long term statue farming right now but getting those dice obols are essential

DK is fast at crystal farming. Choco is effectively a 4x rate so it goes from "fast" to "very fast" but DK on it's own is still pretty damn fast

[zinc torrent]

I might just wait for choco chip then

[tacit tulip]

Players often let perfect get in the way of good

[zinc torrent]

I still need to get DK to tremor wurms anyway

[dapper prism]

Also good to get a bunch of pens early on

to max the few core po boxes

[zinc torrent]

My DR is at 4.98x right now on DK

[dapper prism]

the question still remainds though, do you have dice obols?

[pallid raptor]

Wait till u have the Choco chip there will be on in the chip res in dec

Plus wait it u have x7 DR

[tacit tulip]

5.0 was the threshold people suggested you start farming obols before DK/ES was a thing - I manually farmed that out using a MMan 😄

[pallid raptor]

Need dice obols

From w2

[zinc torrent]

I have more of those DR things on my ES

[dapper prism]

Yeh so definetely camp active dk for some dice obols.
But also make sure you you get crystal chance cards and stuff too

[zinc torrent]

I have like 2k hours of candies

Should i use them now?

To get cards and stuff

I've been saving candies since start of the game

[dapper prism]

probably not if you arnt setup right yet, since ES grinding some cards should net you a lot more than candying it

[zinc torrent]

Is ES better to farm cards than DK?

[pallid raptor]

Yeah

In my opinion at least

[storm kelp]

happy hour seems very sad. It is like me and 2 guys

[zinc torrent]

What map

[pallid raptor]

U wanna have the card drop cards up tho

[dapper prism]

Easy to remember is ES is for the mob itself, and the main drop page.
DK is for the mobs that arnt coming from a wormhole, like crystals and for the drops inside the rare table of the drop page

[worthy helm]

ES is best for any primary drop and cards (not rare drop bag)
Dk is best for drops in rare drop bag (cause drop rate orb on crystals
Bubo is best for money farming and cranium cooking

[tacit tulip]

(dk has actually overtaken bubo for money)

[worthy helm]

At least bubo still has cc

[tacit tulip]

yeah, and DK you usually keep at beans

[dapper prism]

dk also better xp, better keys, etc.

[zinc torrent]

what's the map for dice obol?

[dapper prism]

ES falls off in w5 due to the high hp (for drops)

[tacit tulip]

sandy pots

[zinc torrent]

isn't that for money?

I got a couple money ones from there by accident

[worthy helm]

Money obols are from w1 drop rate obols from w2

[dapper prism]

you can destroy money for frags

[dapper prism]

stuff arnt only dropped at a single place, there's overlap on drops

[worthy helm]

They're from the purple rare bag which means any mob in that world

Sand pots is just better cause u also get shards and stuff

[paper nova]

Is that where kattle is? I keep wanting to candy the last couple maps but then forget I can't 😂

[worthy helm]

Yes

[zinc torrent]

what does this do?

ty i'll work on it

[dapper prism]

wiki has it

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/IkYwkq9.png

[paper nova]

amazing thigns

[sharp zenith]

Is there a 7 evolve type? I'm not sure I should continue investing in this box or if I already capped the evolution time

[zinc torrent]

ty guys omg ur right it does amazing things

[pallid raptor]

Thanks I didn’t know this

[zinc torrent]

Used a 12h candy, didn't get any obol. Is DR that low? lol

[dapper prism]

As said before, you do NOT candy crystal drops..

since you cant kill crystals on afk -,-

[zinc torrent]

Oh so the drop is from the crystal

Not the sandy pots

[ruby yarrow]

how do I get a lot more money

[zinc torrent]

😐

[pallid raptor]

it’s from the rare drops/mega drops

[tacit tulip]

Yes, which is why we recommended DK, who is good for crystal drops specifically

[dapper prism]

Don't worry about it, fix your stuff xD

[pallid raptor]

Crystals drop those more

[ruby yarrow]

I need money to fix my stamps

[pallid raptor]

Throw someone in w5

[dapper prism]

Most will come from bubo/dk at wurms active with crystal chance rate etc. But before that you also need decent gmush kills for the lab money multi

[pallid raptor]

Ok this is a dumb question, what is gmush

[dapper prism]

green mushroom

[tacit tulip]

a green mushroom

first mob of the game

[worthy helm]

First mob lol

[pallid raptor]

Oh

[ruby yarrow]

is this the main money upgrade

[pallid raptor]

Very dumb I see

[worthy helm]

Indeed

[tacit tulip]

lots of gmush is lots of money

[ruby yarrow]

I see

it's indeed alot of money

[pallid raptor]

Don’t worry mine is only at like 150%

Ur not alone

[ruby yarrow]

I can't even reach this

[viral snow]

is there a way to check how long my shrines will take to lvl up in IT, IE etc ?
I cant seem to find it tho

[pallid raptor]

Math

[paper nova]

mine is probably like 80 rn... my gmush kills so far are just what vman did to get to vman 😂

[dapper prism]

a lotter 😄
https://i.imgur.com/WikayPZ.png

[viral snow]

I wanted a break from that

[pallid raptor]

Lol I’m a art student I like math

[swift wharf]

Quick maff

[tacit tulip]

Guys I have a confession to make, I don't have a single character at level 500. Some midgamer I am

[signal osprey]

Not finishing 420 smh

[worn current]

How do people get their Cranium Cooking Cooldown so low?

[pallid raptor]

For shameeee

[zinc torrent]

do guys max this or even use it?

[tacit tulip]

It has niche use but generally not worth it

[viral snow]

im an engineering master
thats why i get enough of it from time to time

[lavish cloak]

crap, i didn't know the stats would increase in shimmer costs eventually

[dapper prism]

good roadkill bubble, mana po box and high tente talent (if you mean low timer).

[paper nova]

i've used it on all of my pushes so far. doing thje math now to see if it will help me with last 3 w5 maps

[lavish cloak]

should i be concentrating on ONE of these or just push the damage/skill/exp

[pallid raptor]

I use in after u get the super bit thing

[dapper prism]

But technically if you mean high in the sense of 400k or 450k+ seconds of time skip. (which helps the cooldown) heres a work in progress list
https://i.imgur.com/R3WXqtg.png

[signal osprey]

Efficiency

[ruby yarrow]

trickz, what do you think my total stamp level is right now

[signal osprey]

7

[dapper prism]

well it was 771 so 772 ?

[tacit tulip]

4

[ruby yarrow]

no

[dapper prism]

If it isnt 2k+ i'll cry

[coral goblet]

yo just noticed this but thanks man @sacred coral 😂

[signal osprey]

It had two 7's in it I was close

[ruby yarrow]

it's not, because I need money

[lavish cloak]

i sampled within 200 mil of your base value on oak and copper. i can let the gold relic sample boost accumulate till w6 now

[pallid raptor]

Imma check my stamp level prob bad

Omg it is 2k+

Proud

[signal osprey]

I will hopefully be sampling again sometime soon if I stop being lazy

[lavish cloak]

but i halted hourly clicks to stash atoms to max out cooking atom.

[tacit tulip]

to clarify 2k isn't good it's just not as bad as isaac ❤️

[pallid raptor]

Hey

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-arsenio-hall-semmi-coming-to-america-spitting-gif-19322460

[pallid raptor]

How long have u been playing the game

[signal osprey]

I'm thinking I farm 200 green stacks at beans with statues and then max equinox symbols

[tacit tulip]

I started after w4 came out

[signal osprey]

After that i dump the statue stacks and sample

[viral snow]

gotta do my vman sampling
been over a month with that low ass prints

[tacit tulip]

so...april last year?

[lavish cloak]

i'm at 177. i need to look for stupid things to greenstack now

[ruby yarrow]

😭

[swift wharf]

Damn, you knew that off the top of your head?

[pallid raptor]

If it isn’t less than 3 months I don’t wanna hear it

[dapper prism]

Rashaken made a list here: #1162822328980361266 message
If it helps 😄

[pallid raptor]

Get on my level

[tacit tulip]

w5 came out in december and there was an 8 month gap between w4/5, so kinda just eyeballed it

[signal osprey]

I started around August or September of last year

[swift wharf]

Fair enough

[signal osprey]

Shortly before the iOS event

[paper nova]

Does BB's Chow/zow/ monster decimator directly correlate with deathnote kills?
Ie: If BB uses the + portal % prayer + decimator can he get 3 kills per kill or does it conly count for 2 kills because the prayer is ONLY for portals/deathnote?

[pallid raptor]

I started around the summer event

[tacit tulip]

chows are calculated on death note yeah

[ruby yarrow]

I'm close to 1300 😉

[tacit tulip]

only place you have to be careful are the weird bonus maps

single acorn at the bottom of the tree does NOT count towards acorn DN, it's it's own thing

[pallid raptor]

Congrats I have double

[ruby yarrow]

ok

[signal osprey]

I also have double

[ruby yarrow]

ok

[dapper prism]

Not too shabby.
Also a very early on decent money method is w4 colo.
Best to make sure you get the vip star talents for money if you can

[pallid raptor]

I also have no money

[dapper prism]

I also have double those stamps 👀

[signal osprey]

I also have no money

[ruby yarrow]

everyone has double my stamps😭

[dapper prism]

If i could I'd give you 1 yellow coin 😄
https://i.imgur.com/3as6OJN.png

[tacit tulip]

For what it's worth I wasn't being intentionally mean - I'm the king of being lazy in this game. If I say something isn't good, it's because at one point my own laziness had me at exactly that point 😄

[ruby yarrow]

1 void coin would be perfect for me

[paper nova]

If you have already finished the mustard/ketchup quest on all characters is there a way to reset it so you can try to greenstack the item?

[rich epoch]

so you're telling me that someone have chowed that thing?

[paper nova]

Maybe have to wait till cahracters 11 and 12? 😦

[signal osprey]

Many people have super chowed it

[dapper prism]

chow is easy o.o

[tacit tulip]

I'm super chowing it rn to be honest

[paper nova]

how do u super chow the ram on equinox map? 😂

[tacit tulip]

it is...not fast

[rich epoch]

lmfao

[ruby yarrow]

still better than my gmush kills

[rich epoch]

as someone that haven't even chowed 80% of stuff I'm really... scared. thanks

[dapper prism]

If you have 650k kph, you just have to do like 4.5k 2min claims xD

[pallid raptor]

I never seen those

Green is rare enough

[thorn marsh]

does regular stats like respawn affect kilroy?

[paper nova]

Wait is there actually even a ram on that map? I haven't seen a mob there

[tacit tulip]

Good to know that I'll never be schowing that map then

[vocal ibex]

My drop rate dropped which isn't good. Little over 2.0

Why

[dapper prism]

dont see it but it is around on afk info 🤷

[tacit tulip]

No ram but you can afk the map for 2 mins at a time

[zinc torrent]

is this the highest book max lvl i can get? where else can i increase it?

[dapper prism]

245 is max

[paper nova]

Oh true. No need to see it to kill it 😂

[ruby yarrow]

how much money do you think I can get from 1 hour of suggma?? (7,5k kph)

[daring ravine]

fury, achievment and atom

[paper nova]

Why the 2 min claims? @dapper prism

[sleek ermine]

particle accelerator (world 3 end game), sailing artifact 3 forms (sailing world 5)

[pallid raptor]

There is a lot of factors for book lv, it’s the thing I’m mainly trying for

[daring ravine]

because it doesnt give anything more than 2 mins

[sleek ermine]

Also achievement for claiming 1000 books

[paper nova]

oh lol

[tacit tulip]

anything above 2 minutes gets reverted to 2 minutes cause the map says no to afk

[rich epoch]

2m candy when

[zinc torrent]

oh i'm in w5 and i dont' have particle accelarator rip

[pallid raptor]

What’s a particle accelerator

[sleek ermine]

Yes its the last building top row, and after you get it, youre still far away from getting the max levels

[zinc torrent]

ok ty guys

[rich epoch]

just do it while you're doing the DNA farming

[dapper prism]

Its a machine that accelerates particles 👀

[ruby yarrow]

so what do you think?

it's surprisingly super low

[tacit tulip]

4 money

[zinc torrent]

how come my entire death note just multiplied by 3

[tacit tulip]

did you do a vman speed run?

[zealous niche]

Did you only have 1M kills in most things?

[zinc torrent]

yea i did

yes to both

[zealous niche]

That’s why

Vman speedrun sets all kills on vman to 2M

[tacit tulip]

So vmans thing is you do a speed run and the portals get reset.

Vmans kills are permanently reduced to 0

Once the run is done, vman still needs his portal kills to unlock maps tho, so lava sets all his kills to 2m again

[ruby yarrow]

more

[zinc torrent]

oh that's nice

[zealous niche]

Don’t farm deathnote on vman

[tacit tulip]

yeah, just don't farm kills on vman or you'll have a bad time

[zinc torrent]

my w3 went from all bronze to diamond

[zealous niche]

You got the good side of it

Had a guy who lost a few billion gmush kills to that effect

Don’t be that guy

[zinc torrent]

oh so if i farm past 2m on vman

and then do a run

my kills will go back down on deathnote

ooo ok ty for that

vman is honestly awesome

[tacit tulip]

Vman is a full time skiller (he should have been anyway)

[zealous niche]

Vman is hereby banned from deathnote farming

[signal osprey]

My vman has 14B kills on clammies

[zealous niche]

Speedrun

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-darkside-star-wars-evil-innerme-gif-13048146

[ruby yarrow]

this is my money on suggmas

[signal osprey]

Say less

[zinc torrent]

Is there such a thing as "damage card set"? I've been using dr defecaus, snowman, citringe and bloodbones cards for extra dmg. Does this make sense?

[marsh wraith]

is the log proc 1 time max? it never does it twice

[signal osprey]

Not even doing the speed run either. Fuck those clammie kills

[signal osprey]

It has no cap on procs

[dapper prism]

afk info money is irrelevant to active money. Crystals and stuff give a ton more

[ruby yarrow]

how much more

anyways my crystal rates are so low

[daring ravine]

how low

[ruby yarrow]

1 in 600

[signal osprey]

Easy

[tacit tulip]

did you just candy out another vial level?

[lapis mesa]

500k/h is miserable for Gmush isnt it

[signal osprey]

level 6 now

[vapid cove]

thats what im doing tbh but i leave them alone for 24 hours and its like several mil each on gmush

it helps but its not good

once it hits 1 mil you should honestly just candy t

it

[lapis mesa]

its an internal debate if i want to use candy, im at 270m, and have 600 1 hrs, but i feel like im just wasting potential

[hollow osprey]

do my characters get trapping exp if i collect traps with trapper drone?

[lapis mesa]

yeah

[hollow osprey]

alright ty

[ruby yarrow]

why is my kph on gmush getting higher sometimes

[hollow osprey]

yeah just wanted to be sure

yeah i am but well my account kinda sucks

[ruby yarrow]

not as much as mine

[hollow osprey]

my acc is just alive because i'm a whale

hahaha

[ruby yarrow]

a

[hollow osprey]

same

my stamps are underleveled af because i underrated them

i left alchemy like 2m behind because i thought it's not important

[ruby yarrow]

what is your total stamps level

probably higher than mine

[hollow osprey]

1.72k

[storm kelp]

why does idleon toolbox not correctly have my DR for each character? It is off by over 10% total

[left spoke]

That doot gang, wow

[ruby yarrow]

higher than mine

[dense eagle]

anyone knows what the precent here need to be for me to insta unlock all world 6 bubles?

[hollow osprey]

i want doot

[left spoke]

Mine is the frog on the right lol

[hollow osprey]

rip

have got all comps except doot

[left spoke]

🥲

[hollow osprey]

just 152 left lmao

[hollow osprey]

sheepie and ram are mvp ngl

[storm kelp]

bump

[hollow osprey]

i don't use toolbox sorry

[teal lynx]

20$ sailing pack maybe. Or maybe the "new" Drop Rate stamp from Islands?

I'm gonna look at my IT really quick and see if I'm seeing a difference

[vapid cove]

yeah im also just missing doot

[left spoke]

Yeah it's not accurate for me too, dk why

[left spoke]

No I don't have those

[storm kelp]

could be that

nvm

[teal lynx]

I believe the Sailing Pack, Dr Stamp and Equinox Drop rate are not getting calculated

I'm missing 4x dr on IT

[storm kelp]

I am only missing 1. something

but still

[vapid cove]

big milestone guys i maxed my first cauldron on speed

[teal lynx]

IT just updated my DR (only missing ~2x now). You can hover over and maybe see what you are missing

[hollow osprey]

good luck

[vapid cove]

i had 300 levels to throw in lol

[hollow osprey]

getting doot would be such a blessing

[ruby yarrow]

I agree

[zinc torrent]

i raised this to 100 but my sleeepin on the job doesn't switch to skill afk%

nvm it jsut fixed somehow

[hollow osprey]

if t5 wouldn't cost 250 per summon i would have just summoned until i get him

but that would be probably over 100€

[left spoke]

Don't waste your money on gatcha please

[teal lynx]

Gamblers always quit right before they hit the Jackpot (don't take advice from me)

[hollow osprey]

i like spending money on gatcha

but t5 candy just too expensive

so i wait for free doot

[left spoke]

Do you really think that a bonus from a game is worth 100€ ?

[hollow osprey]

i do

[left spoke]

It's for you btw

[dapper prism]

if you enjoy the game and play it enough, why not?

[left spoke]

I'd like someone to tell me how foolish I'm if I wanted to do that

[left spoke]

Ok, but only spend money you can lose

[storm kelp]

what prayers do you have?

[hollow osprey]

exactly

[dapper prism]

people will spend 10-30 bucks to watch a 2h movie.
40-60 bucks for AAA game that they play for 20-50h.

[left spoke]

Your money your choice anyway

[teal lynx]

Midas

[hollow osprey]

i don't regret any buys in games i like

if i have fun with it i don't regret it

[storm kelp]

also, is monolithialism the best thing or what?

[left spoke]

Then I'll be glad for you if you get Doot !

[hollow osprey]

btw trickz ty for your IE overlook

i try to change my acc rn, basically i just do the things u said

[dapper prism]

Dont remember it but you're welcome! 😄

[hollow osprey]

i'm not sure still if i will pay for doot

i'ma wait like 2-3 weeks ig for the decision

[left spoke]

Waiting for W6 release to make the decision ?

[lapis mesa]

Nobisect got me to the 1 mil mark, but im sure im neglecting something..

[dapper prism]

honestly at this point of the game that could be a good thing to wait for

[left spoke]

You can maybe get more AFK gain rate

[hollow osprey]

nah just because i don't want to get fooled by lava lmao

imagine i pay 100€ now for doot

and my next free summon is doot

[left spoke]

Yeah I'd feel bad

[hollow osprey]

i just wait a few weeks and if i don't get him i spend a bit

[teal lynx]

Afk gain rate, respawn rate, maybe speed pots, cards, starsigns, equipment, trophy, premium stuff, damage, deathnote skulls and so on

[left spoke]

Keychain with afk gain

This pendant

Lot of nice chips too

[hollow osprey]

what's the best spot for farming those cloudsound followers for mutton quest?

[dapper prism]

__AFK Gain sources / list from #1084911530417606656 __
https://imgur.com/a/k9nFW86

[left spoke]

That + doubler is the best in my case

[teal lynx]

As a comparison. Only 9 multikill tiers more, but 10x more gains. No doublers currently equiped

[dapper prism]

2x the afk gain too

[left spoke]

idk, I got those without any focus

[dapper prism]

and way higher mk/tier

[lapis mesa]

yeah thats why i figured im doing something wrong,

[left spoke]

Get the quest on everyone and it'll go up quickly I guess

[hollow osprey]

damn

[soft elbow]

Opinion of my obol? Also should I abandon my worship obol in favor of DR obol? (I never use wizard skill)

[hollow osprey]

well all my characters except my dk are in lab currently

[left spoke]

Oh.. I hope someone has a better answer then

[teal lynx]

I have the 20% respawn key chains and doubled one of them. They are huge
Else you need to improve everything else I said earlier

[hollow osprey]

i'll just do it passively ig

[left spoke]

I hope someone "has" or "have" ?

[dapper prism]

think i got them from active beans on dk.

[lapis mesa]

i have no doublers, all inf starsigns, my deathnote for blunder hills is almost all purple skulls, guess i could push for 100 mil, but thats part of my dilemna now

[hollow osprey]

ty

[hollow osprey]

crystal farming build?

[dapper prism]

pretty sure as its way higher than the others xD
https://i.imgur.com/pA9lCRJ.png

[hollow osprey]

.. xD

i'm glad i can farm crystals properly now

choco chip such a gamechanger

[wind umbra]

atom when?

[teal lynx]

Mine are fully Eclipsed. So I get 3x multikill compared to you + double afk gains + more respawn rate probably. Have you equiped speed pots?
And good news for you. Doublers and such are coming next month iirc

[narrow sable]

if i dont know what to do with my bits should i just keep pumping into shovel in hopes that one day ill get a good nug

[hollow osprey]

i'm jealous

[narrow sable]

i got x2324 with level 85

[lapis mesa]

oh yeah, only had 1 slot of those, grabbbing the other three gives me an extra 100k

[teal lynx]

Gotta see were you can improve. Probably alchemy -> Better Skulls. Skilling + Fighting -> Better equipment. The kills gonna increase in no time :)

[hollow osprey]

this sucks

[thorn marsh]

how the heck you guys getting such high MK?

[stray valve]

the guy with beans ain't high