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Like Idleon has "a few" bugs and idk if it can harm my PC
bro imagine if lava put a crypto miner in the game, he would become the richest man easy
I played since release minus 4 months and did not play "actively afk" a lot
and be found out and sued quickly...
hello again 
What harm would an in game bug cause your pc that the game itself wouldnt already cause even without bugs lol
is the best way to really get 20k fishing statues just blowing tons of candy on fruitflies?
My PC sometime acts weirdly if Idleon is on for a long time @dapper prism, so I'm afraid lol
Any W2 catching node as they all have the same drop rate but yes. Candy is the way
Like screen blink or even freeze when doing something else
That sounds like a PC issue not an idleon issue
Your PC shouldnt be affected by any of it, if then it's the game app itself that may freeze from lag.
Unless you're playing with like 2-4gb ram
I've a good hardware but "Idleon"
maybe bad drivers? or outdated ram?
I never had that kind of issues with Idleon off
it would make sense that your ram gets filled after some time
Updated and a good amount of it
And a lot of us never have issues with it on
Don't think so
I did turn off my pc the other day, but this was before it π
https://i.imgur.com/tR5rvUf.png
Skeleris a potato fry
what a pain! Is W3 col best for candy?
w2
Colosseum Purpose:
- Colo 1 = Gems per ticket (But not much more than colo 2, at the loss of candy)
- Colo 2 = Candy, Golden Kebab (+% Total dmg)
- Colo 3 = Slush Obols+Skulls, Golden Bread (+% Coin drop)
- Colo 4 = Eggs, Laddles
- Colo 5 = To be released
Note:
- Gold bread seems to only give ~1% of the displayed value, not really worth it - TheContract
Look mom I'm famous
Only issue is Colo 1/3/4/5 you can do 3 runs per orb once high enough. Colo 2 only 2 runs. Also need to remove +hp prayers
"once I get" lol
Actually no its the next day
My luck:
But still definitely this week
Give me sheepie and doot and I'm happy
Ram is super nice too
Ram the one i dont own π¦
you got doot but no ram?
Do you like that system ?
I got doot and next I have is sheep
Initially I was lik e"yeh ram seems kinda usesless" was missing both ram and pot . (got doot very quickly)
Now i need or want ram for a lot of situations xD
Yall need some more bag space smh
no wasted mats on ram!
I mainly want/wanted it for doing my quests or when my dk gets too lucky at beans and i ende up with 5ish+ lads overnight then i dont have the space for the last few things
What dont you have space for at beans?
Farming statues with 11.5x DR is so slooooow.. After a few hours I only got ~3k
Do you actually have the mob mats not filtered 
I dont use the +cap prayer and dont filter anything except bean slices atm
Why no prayer? Its just free carry cap while active
Because i still switch alt too often
last time i used that prayer while doing stamps on vman i forgot about it and candied my 110 to 130 fishing 
Technically did that for the lad dream
Yeah but vman isnt DK though
Still had 6-10h afk session on him yesterday for example
Trying to push TD's if they dont crash/freeze again etc
@stray valve result of my 462 keys with x7 drop rate on chaotic
May suddenly just end up on ES to get the 1b citringes for example and forget about
easy
ES 
what's yours gmush/kh guys?
~20m/h
Last I checked was 22.3m
lmfao that's hot 
Havnt min maxed it on 1 char for a bit as i split my mob rings between 2 alts atm xD
is that just from insane multikill tier or something else
Es probably would have been like 26m if I bothered using him but forge gains too good
Just, everything. having eclipse helps
i feel weak
when you all thinking W6 will pop out?
Yeah but that pic is old
1-2 months is my guess, at the earliest
2 work years
rip
well it is 
but I haven't made much progress since then
ty, u just made me check my sb and realize my cards/set were wrong 
Are egalitarian royal trap worth the upgrade ?
what cards do you use for SB gmush kills?
just all multikill?
tf from where you guys get that kill rate
I just use this
https://i.imgur.com/9XmNUeW.png
why not use cum sock instead of chiz
unless its not all stat card
i dont remember what cards are for what
Just look at mob it look like cum sock
was just prepping for weekly reset that hit a min ago

Okay so i didnt see the chance when i got the 1/50mill as i didnt have the card... uhhhh why is my luck in something i wont be able use in a long time
You don't have it yet
i will call it that way since my friends that quit also were calling this mob that way
I got the drop
No
it dissapear after you get it
If you own a recipe, you do NOT see it on the card slot
If you do NOT own a recipe, you do see it on the card slot
However, it only first shows up on the card slot once you get any recipe from that world
@dapper prism got disctracted second time 
I think i got it
crazi
This is my current kph off of nobi and with no goats
Then yes, but use it and check your card, different thing
760t dmg crazi too
Seeing the recipe on the slot doesnt mean you got it (unless in your case if you arnt using it)
If I were candying he would have an extra 45% afk and then double the whole total. Comes out to about 23.5m
how you get 760t dmg
I held it jic so i could see the chance as i didnt get the card~
what insane luck for something i cant use
Lots of alchemy
you will use it one day
Eventuallyβ’
wtf 47k
what's your agi bubble at
I'm a filthy hourly clicker
are u doing that with nblb ?
you click every hour when get 1b agi?
1b thing
idk what mats it take
lol
I click every hour on like 10 different bubbles
Each one of these upgrades a bubble every hour
you working?
Steam link is pretty neat 
I'm probably not the best example to compare yourself too though
Yeah if I'm midgame then almost everyone is early game
People just joke that doot is the requirement for endgame and I dont have him so I say I'm midgame lol
I dont have him either
but i only got 14 free tries so far
probably could be like 16
i missed some days after all
so W2 colo takes forever to spawn the next wave. i don't remember that being the case?
Turn off midas
The skilling nodes have decaying hp
ohh
you can get more points if you skill while you wait though π
Not if you have the prayers on. You'll get less points because the run will take way too long so your bonus score at the end based on time will be abysmal
well geeze W2 colo takes forever to do anyways. how is this best for candy? lol
Plus your orb will run out before you even finish the colo which means less loot
Because each colo gives the same candy on average and W2 is the least tickets
More candy per ticket
More points means nothing when you can easily reach the max chests
more points = more points, never said it was worth anything
lol
Its not even more points though lol
higher mult so more point (but you lose some if you wait too much)
yeah, you can still skill and not let orb go away
Does anyone have the new TD setups handy?
Which world?
I just check on yt
Not with prayers on you cant
no one was talking about having those prayers on. No need to dock what I'm saying with something that isn't being discussed
I need to rerun everything tbh.
Depends on the world but a lot of youtube stuff would be outdated if it wasnt posted since equinox release
I just spam poison, 1 void, 1 ice, few kraken then party
The original conversation was literally about having midas on lol
This one is 6 months old but isn't it just about the speed ?
He had midas on and asked why it took so long and I said its because the skilling nodes last longer and then you said that means he can skill for more points
What, why speed?
Equinox only increase damage over time, right ?
Equinox stuff let's you easily push 10-30 waves further
Yeah and that completely changed the meta for tower setups though
Literally no pre equinox guide is still relevant
and it changes the meta because now you don't get timed out as easily so you can go a lot more Party A's or Kraken +1's instead of having to worry about dmg.
There are a couple that only changed a little bit I guess but they have all changed
Here's the basics on some things:
https://i.imgur.com/VovPzAp.png
Waka specifically is the one that has changed the most with equinox
That setup you're running will clear 140 at most when the record is now 200
Oh I'm interested now
Wow.
I can't see it, from which channel is it from ?
Realistically most people wont get 200 but that setup should at least make 150/160 pretty doable
Endgame talk
Thanks !
Yeah this is why I asked for the channel
(so I could get only that role/perm)
There's only really 2-3 on that list that are very obvious ones you could check
anyone have the information on the family bonus player lvl splits?
I feel like 80-90% of discussions are either #lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ or #endgame-gen-chat and then some stuff in #1084911530417606656
the wiki
hmm guess i just can't find the exact levels that the bonuses increase
Do you get lots of lucky lads while farming crystals on dk?
Easily like 3-10ish a day or more
Yeah thought so
sometimes more
It's a balancing act and depends on your talent book, reminder that the family man talent ONLY affects ES itself, not other alts
I'm level 112 in gaming and still haven't unlocked the last 3 plants. is that usual or I'm doing something very wrong? I feel like I should have at least one more but idk
Do you let your % go up?
Imagine a world, where we get world 7 and cauldron 4
Grind time 2: Skill exp
I did for a while even tho it took forever and nothing. then the guide said "oh, just hit whenever" and I did that too but no luck. should I just let it stack forever?
for getting "more logs" for the 1 bil print.. wich "bubble will be best to pump the particle upgrade in? or is it just go for stable jenius all the way? ( atm im on max 950m/hour) so im close XD
I have done what seems like thousands of 0.5% clicks for chem
and I'm 128 gaming -.-
hum... I see. thanks. that's what I was thinking. I'm not using kitsune very much because I'm lazy as fuck but maybe I should do it for the DNA
thanks for the info π
also, should I just collect the plants as soon as possible? I've been letting they sit to evolve but... I don't think that is a good strat π€
at what snakeskin % did you guys deposit your statues? :p
100%
that's what I feared
27x lvl 13 vials (with rift unlock)
only at 69% and I'm not feeling lucky
Not if you're going for unlocks. Could keep some cactus that are somewhat cenetered, so when you have more plants, use it to evo for more dna
is active es better than afk sb at eclipse skulls
You would candy most eclipse anyways
active time is too precious, do stuff active that cant be candied
6m kills isnt a good candying point right
Not that terrible, if it's your first ones, gmush comes passively anyways from sb gmush grind
just do a cosmic and you're peachy :p
I see. I guess I should do that for the unlocks because I feel like my gamings progress is slow. thanks again
Always do eclipse from highest kph to lowest.
its slime
This was mine:
#lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ message
I also need to get better poing score. it fucking sucks on my browser and I can't get over 25k or something
#1084911530417606656 has afk info stuff
thanks
I laughed out loud. lmao
It's so true it's sad
I tried really really hard and got 19k twice and than 23k at best. than freeze
A tip i guess that may work, try the game in the browser
never thought about it for gaming, but may help
oh, nice to see that I'm not the only struggling with it π
I did try that ones. didn't really help.
also the respawn keychains are better than afk for kills right
unless your other afk gain stuff sucks maybe not xD (was what someone else argued that their afk was better than BIS respawn not long ago)
I mean they kinda do
What kind of afk % and eff would you say it would take to get at least 1b logs printed and hr?
After quite some time I returned to the game and I'm super overwhelmed of what to do Especially on what to focus first - Can you guys maybe help me? https://glabos.idleonefficiency.com/
Sadly
Check the #1084911530417606656 IE checklist, go through each of your pages 1 by 1 and just clean stuff up first
is it worth going for the nothing trophy
Terrible samples, means terrible stamps and alchemy.
what is a good alternative for skulling
and terrible stamps and alchemy, means terrible samples.
Killing people and grabbing their skulls
should i spam research after unlocking them all ?
I meant trophy π€£

Doesn't work. DNA just stacks now
Wouldnt do anything nor can you at all afaik
oks, wasnt sure if it s like with alchemy bubbles, to unlock ahead of update
Don't think we get more plants. Maybe after W8 release 
w9 hype
And then your 7 Billion DNA will give you a 0.4% chance for a new Plant 
what are the star signs I should be doubling for kills
the 2 afk ones and the respawn ?
bro i hope lava updates a little bit slowly. i wanna be midgame before enw content comes out.
feels fun to be overly ready for new world
W6 in a few months is my guess
w6 next week
Few as in 2-3
whats this
w6 in 2 hours
w6 already dropped just update
i still dont have chemical plants
that 1%
oh right
I still don't have the last 3 plants 
just got to focus it more properly
That's the exact post I was looking for, thanks. Forgot to save it.
lmfao, thanks y'all. just got up and clicked the research and unlocked the berry bush
I got the wings on my 2nd try
didnt event unlock the recipe yet
8200 power statues, 12k more Jesus.
any tips for what to do to prep for w6? been at end of w5 for a while. Not saying ive min maxed everythign and maxed everything out etc... but which min max is worth pursuing right now?
8200 in what time ?
Ong
at high rates, you get 8k+ in an hour
Iβd say itβs been between 30-35 hours lol
Iβm def not at a high rate π
Then something must be seriously wrong with your setup
Damn no choco chip ?
even no choco chip wouldnt make it that damn low xD
8x drop rate w the normal card setup & choco chip on my DK, Iβm prob severely lacking on alchemy as far as drop rate lol
most DR doesnt come from alch, use #1084911530417606656
Hi I could have a screen of the new store object by object because the description does not appear π please
Iβm also only at 4B damage
dmg is irrelevant to stuff you 1 shot
Guys, what upgrade i should focus on gamming?
Hmm then maybe my setup is messed up somewhere then
I'm with 1Q points there but i'm felling that is getting slow to upgrade
normal to slow down every now and then, sailing artifacts will help and other sources. Most importantly a decent nugget especially with the equinox upgrade once you can get it
Seeing that 101mil from shovel in achievements make me really jealous
Not sure what achievement you are refering to with a shovel o.o
task board i assume
Achievement pics has a 101m nugget
ohh thought you meant ingame achievement xD
What do you think?
Biggest benefit will come from unlocking last mutation
Chemical is op
Theres a away to get more chance to that?
Especially since you have cat
Sometimes in Chemical loop for ages lol
Speaking off, went down to 14 earlier, now back on 19 o.o
https://i.imgur.com/xcGkpbX.png
yes, never hoard dna
third td gu #endgame-gen-chat message
No access to that link
whats the best map to farm statues on es for the 100k statues
dreadlo candying
also see pins for all statue info
Does encourage reset after a successful level up?
I think so
I risked it for 23
wow
Back to 20 I go 
For gaming research, if it says Approx 0% chance, and you have say, 5 DNA gathered, does this actually mean 0.05% or so, or is it actually 0%?
Trying to unlock chem is getting to me..
how are yall prepping for w6
I donβt think it goes into .0-%
Got everyone kruk gear and divine scarves and fixed a lot of my samples
yeah, i only wonder because it's not an exact =
shiny w6 pets
all eclipse
all quests
unlock all w6 bubbles ahead of time
oh shit you can do that???
unlock w6 bubble4ws
you can unlock w8 bubbles
waaaaaat
just wont see it nor any benefit
52m for W6, 272m for W7 , 1.3B for W8
if you want all bubbles unlocked
were talking about this right?
Unlock W6-8 Bubble Alchemy Cost
https://i.imgur.com/geDu36i.png
does cc speed up sigils too?
Nope, else everyone would have maxed sigils and wouldnt complain about how bad they are xD
oh fuck
so you're punished of you wanna unlock sigils with active bubo 
glad I asked before trying. ty
just unlocked the Dr one. I'm farming some greenstacks and then I'll go bubo for a few.... aeons to level up alchemy
I'll let some characters sit on the sigils while I'm not active buboing
got all w5 bubbles but I think I should start pushing for w6 one's π€
if ur cc sucks, then no
at oranges my bubo does get 160k on cc without any setup (I just go there when it is on cd and swap back to es). is that sucking? I honestly do not know
I'm saving mine up for the moment, got to 14 about a week ago but didn't have then cloud on screen to thought would clear it and wait until cloud on screen, got it and it counts beforehand so I'm 14/15 now starting again 3/15 ffs
how cna you tell how many world 6 bubbles yhou have unlocked
scroll up
your screenshot showed the cost of the first world 6 bubble, asin you havenΒ΄t unlocked one yet
So I have unlocked w7 bubble 4 on all cauldrons.... neat
just unlocked some
but not sure if i need to keep going to finish off w6 bubbles
not interested in unlocking w7 or 8 right now
Current kattlekruk loot
5 obols, 1 wing, 0 necklace
Finish off w6 bc it should be out in a few months
how cna i tell if im done
Cost needs to be 52.2m
Did you not read or look at the image, or what we wrote.. like come on..
I can't interact with that tower, is it a known bug ?

I know there wasn't a tower behind it in the guide I linked you 
@signal osprey you said if i can do acorn 190 then glublin 200 is doable right?
whats the best thing to spend killroy skulls on?
Candy or balls imo. the white pearls are strong too but with w6 imminent, I don't think focusing on exp gain is wise rn
Unless you want the 500 char level dream
The wording on that is all chars, so if you get another char that could mean another to level
Stockpile balls for the next time one of the new shop rewards gets rotated in
Hm, we both have a point
yes but candying opens up in w5 so all 11 characters would get to 500 with a couple thousand hours of candy right
it'll still be quicker to w6 under those circumstances
the exp gain per world is massive
is using them on books bad
books aren't terrible while your library still sucks, those last two levels can take ages
whats a good 20 book timer to aim for
i use them to get to 20 check outs
finally got 200 tentacle with bubo and am maxing cauldrons, should i leave cost low so i can reach atom range faster?
Any tricks to farming obols? Active or afk matter?
i think you want active since i think you can only get 1 obol of each type while afk
It's a viable option - you might want the cost reduction when w6 comes out if things are particularly expensive on the new bubbles
Ah bet thank you
Going to farm pop obols maybe thatβll help my statue drop rate lol
as an example, early levels on salbi sucked cause it's a rare drop
yeah you should have a full DR obol set before even considering farming statues
π«£
Gettin to it
don't forget if you reroll a 2% pop obol to 3%, when you upgrade it to silver it'll be 4%
it keeps the +1%
(as long as it's the left slot obol)
Ah ok cool thatβs what people kept referencing for the reroll
if you forget you can always reroll it as silver, but it costs more per reroll attempt
end goal is basically this in every slot. POps can be replaced by hyper DR obols if you have them, and dice can be replaced by the ice knight random event obol, too
Hmm and what about family tab? Whatβs the meta for that one
same setup
Kk pretty much 24/7?
Ok sweet really appreciate it bro, saved both pics for now
obols and cards (Drop rate, card drop rate, crystal) are a pretty major milestone on your account. Once you have them done, they're basically a perma buff to everything you need
Yea definitely Iβm seeing that now. Was hard to break 4x for a while but started focusing on dr last few days and Iβm at 7.8x. Still gotta work on cards and I have 0 dr obols so working on that now haha
Are the spikey ones just upgraded versions of prior obols? I havent been able to find one drop yet
yeah π
Yea combined blue ones I believe
Ah okey that makes alot more sense
some obols can't go spikey (like the base stat ones) but most do
the bosses in world 4/5 have unique obols that go in the spike slot too
Ooooo okay cool cool
Holy shit that looks insane
I keep one on all my afk classes but also set them up if doing sampling and the like
Sounds like a good idea
How does this work? is it active or afk?
active only unfortunately - it's not very good π¦
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main use is the +whales for skull archer weeks
My breeding skill is really lacking, hoping this would help speed it up
Isn't that talent also used for progressing shiny levels
How do you get to the next stage of dungeon 2?
two conditions need to be met
- In every stage is a skull statue, you must break every one of these
- You must reach 100% score by passing missions so the boss spawns
When the boss dies, the portal to stage 2 is behind it
IMPORTANT NOTE: If you finish the stage before breaking the statue, it despawns. Break it first
Yesβ¦
Ohhh
But I had tried to break them but I missed every time
50% with horn
are you using horn of the foal? Non crits miss haha
w2 doesn't offer many upgrades so horn isn't quite as amazing, but it's really strong still
20+ attacks at least
Np
I still went with horn, some minigames are instant fails with horn but its worth it overall
does that mean that beast master is better than sb on killroy?
Can be
depends on map, but the 360 noscope skill has no mob limit, so you can clear entire lines
there's the manual skill that hits a lot too
so on some maps like orange mushrooms you can just clear the entire map with one skill
I see. ty
will keep they in mind
really both archers suck at map clear, hopefully archers 3/4 are better π
https://i.imgur.com/Fr88tyv.png
13 Progress means I need to kill 2 snowmna now? then 5x penguins etc?
almost done with the pain
green stacking?
yup
I am sorta trying the cloudsound follower 10 mil stack. at 2 mil now
whats found from cloundsound is that they drop pretty everywhere
0
yeah, I have just been stupid and only had it active on one guy. need to add it everywhere
yeaaa π made that mistake ahah
Whats the biggest things to focus for big samples? Im at 90 percent sample rate with zerg prayer but i only have 130 mil samples is there something that matters more than other things?
alchemy bubbles- afk chains - wings - set - card set - cards - chips
Has anybody with 1b samples uploaded the stats they had when they hit 1b? Feeling a bit lost and want some targets
since we're on that topic
Afk chains meaning the accesories/earring things?
Again, 300m what
Actually seeing your stats would help - I'm at 100m samples but have the 3.4x bonus maxed from eldritch, it'd be good to see if I have enough to get 300m
300m oak logs is very different to 300m flies, which is different to 300m gmush caps
Usually everybody's highest sample is oak logs AJ
Ok, so we assume theyβre referencing oak logs?
Yeah, if we're talking about hitting 1b sample it's gonna be oak logs
Alright
i guess
Alchemy helps a lot
Iβm at 600M mainly from alchemy
not been active doing anything in ages
once multitool stamp is as high as i can get it with max decrease cost, and so is crystal spawn, is their any other high prio one?
how far your alchemy is
Golden food effect, want to only use fully discounted clicks on that, mason jar is also high prio
Crystals is one that you can cap easily enough, only takes a few max discounts to get to higher than max inventory
oh yeah i completely forgot thats what i meant to go for next lol thanks bro
Sorry, fact checking myself, 450M
give me alchemy check ss
It'd be nice if Idleon Efficiency had a sampling section that took all the bonuses you had available on your account and told you your max potential sample sizes
Thanks Aj
Hmm, Iβm lower?
honestly my alchemy looks to be in better shape
what's up with vman?
More alchemy/statues/multi tool stamp
stamps check
Hey Aj, did you notice your afk% is in atom range now?
Weβre trying to work out how we have larger samples with worse alchemy
Nope, which bubble we looking at there
i dont think its stamps cuz i have 65 wc
You have doot they donβt have doot/ or lab chips probably
Tree Sleeper
Oh nice
mine 7 lvls higher
Oh yeah, do you have Doot Aj?
i am clueless
Iβll look into it, Iβm not pushing samples right bow
Oooooohhh, that could be it
I am dooted
Ahhhhhh
i am not
Yeah, I'm at like 120/200 no Doot
these are my stamps, i have no doot
good stamps
i dont think 30% from snake is that big
i think i have forgot to do some steps sampling long ago
My samples did jump substantially with doot
It's 30% from snake plus having all other chars giving the afk% from one of the other ones
Itβs also massive afk gains from minor link
minor links are passive isn't it
Plus the +skill levels from bear
yeah bear +30%
Another big one is if you are using lab chips like the 15% afk gains, card doublers, or if you have rift slug 25 more levels on logs on logs is huge
i have slug
It's goat that gives afk minor, so where I'm at it's nearly +40% extra afk just if everybody had goat as well
i doubt i had it in when samoled
Thereβs a lot of factors besides alchemy tbh but itβs mostly gonna be efficiency and afk rates
A single Screenshot of your afk on chopping will have both
mine?
The other main thing that wouldnβt be displayed there would be logs on logs level
takes too long to do all steps to sample
there should be presets
i mean full preset for skilling not only class skills
But to ask whatβs the difference is really gonna be hard to answer when thereβs over a dozen sources for efficiency and afk gains
Forgot big P bubble, so having Doot would make goat give all my chars +51% and snake +30%, so Doot immediately gives account wide +81% afk
Minor link only happen when a char is joined to that deity, blessings are the always on things
big p at what lvl
131, haven't atom'd it at all
doot OP
Time to quit haha
Yeah somebody estimated Doot was an x10 account multiplier overall when it was released

kkkkkk u can get the same samples as someone with doot and only lose 5% afk gains
I've got 5 rift slugs, 4 tradeable, no Doot
doesnt seem like a lot to me '.'
And yeah you can get a doot like sample using the two divinity links a week
people are just too lazy to even realizen that haha
Just way more tedious
yeah, good think is that after a point we only sample once every month or so, so its fine i'd say
vman cooking talent bugged ?
no, the math is correct
No get more meal levels it displays correctly
I can sample at a 5.1% loss on one character or 15.3% loss if I do all 3 mages, but that also means all of my characters are disconnected from things like div bonus, 2x kill, 2x div, etc for 1 - 3 weeks per sample
for lv 196 meal i only have 3 % more speed
It sucks low total meal levels, becomes the biggest boost to cooking later on
if u are no getting that value it means that u did the math wrong
Math is correct
0.66% x196 isnt 3 % ?
yeah, thats around how long u wanna wait for each resample at least
Wrong math
cuz thats now how u calculate that haha sorry
just accept that the math is correct, cant teach simple algebra here
Because itβs 1.0066 ^ 196
Maybe early? But that costs you your eldritch bonus every time you sample. I'm currenly at 3.4x prints
oh okay ty
More like 1.0065xxxx ^196
yeah and u have to multiply by 100 that number to get back to %
So, with higher meal levels and better base you get things like this
does idleoninsight not work anymore
so around which lv this cooking buff start to be good ?
doot is an insane boost to a fresh w5 acc, but he is only a minor boost to actual endgame account (like over 1B samples)
Depends on talent lv but ~800
Oh actually I took the afk% from Goat looking at my bubo, who has my lowest div lvl at 78 - checked another char and they give +6.3% afk bonus at 148 div (counting big p)
ok nice thank you all
800 is very strong if u have 200 talent. If u have 100 probably 1500
It goes stonks
+90% afk gains to all activities is never going to be a minor boost
endgame is
Show me your afk %
that 90% doesnt matter
What afk% you rocking?
endgame gameplay is dif than late gameplay my friend
End gamers were already swapping everyone to goat and 1 snake tho before doot
Because I donβt think anybody is hitting 900% afk
That's an active char?
So it would come close to doubling you
people dont understand that before doot existed, everyone already played the game
I've been playing since launch
Just a minor
double
people swapped links, waited 2-3 weeks, did setups differently
and endgame all those % doesnt give u anything real
Thatβs not what weβre arguing
Weβre refuting your point that doot becomes inconsequential
its 80% to something meaningless, thats what im arguing
I got my 100m samples doing the swaps, and have the 3.4x max eldritch bonus showing I did it at least 3 months ago, though really it was before summer. Haven't played much since gold "event" then companions
It may be less impactful, but never inconsequential
If you're only at 100m samples, you havent been playing since launch. You might of started, but you quit or never truly played.
People were in the billions prior to doot
doot is just a quality of life to make things less boring to an endgamer, its not actual boost to acc
You're absolutely right, Idleon has never been my priority in life, I played it as an idle game
fresh w5 acc doot is an insane boost, at endgame its whatever just a quality of life
Still donβt think your math checks out
Then saying "i played since launch" as if it should be some sort of all encompassing fact is irrelevant lol.
Less impactful Iβll agree
It means I've experienced the different eras of the game
get back to me when u get closer to endgame, u will understand what im talkinga bout
If you didnt really play, you didnt experience it though
Iβm already at the point of working on my own goals instead of game set ones
Doot good cus Iβm lazy 
Iβm not as stonks as many, but Iβm no noob either
I already hate swapping stuff
I played an idle game as an idle game and so my experience doesn't count? π€£
Also Brave no more sampling for me till W6 prob 
u dont have a good vision of how the game actualy works, thats what he is saying
Doot is strong, dont get me wrong lol, but players like TheContract are proof its not as big as people seem to expect
thats my point, its insanely strong but for an endgame point of view its whatever
Not what I said, but you can't talk like your experience is the only truth, when you didn't actually play through the "eras"
contract would be actualy happy cuz of quality of life of having doot, not actual gains
Right, Doot is insanely strong for everybody but the top 0.1% of players, and only the experience of the top 0.1% of players matters?
Based TheContract leading the dootless mid gamers
I think ark is also dootless
TheContract is a relatively new player in the grand scheme of Idleon. Its the perfect example. No doot, newish and yet is a top tier player
Tho heβs not like super endgame focus but heβs got a good account
I've been active on every world launch, and had 100m samples 6 months ago, so it's not like my account is garbage tier
Again, im not refuting your claim to have been playing, but you dont have true experience when it comes to the width and breadth of idleon. So, you dont have any true knowledge to base your claims on.
Brave, I think u missed my samples this morning 
Not gatekeeping at all, just refuting the very biased claim you're making
You're allowed to have an opinion, but im not?
ive speedrun 2 accs up to a fairly strong range (ancient fury) with 1M samples acc. 1 with doot, 1 without doot. The benefits of having doot are insanely stronger before u unlock omniphau.
After omniphau is unlocked both accs start to progress in a much much closer pace than u'd think . u just to have the brains to use gods correctly based on what part of the game u are at.
So what actualy happens is that people heard that doot is gamebreaking but they dont have the knowledge to actualy verify it
so ppl will keep having this biased opinion on doot when the reality is all that
just rerolled acc (8 acc total, fairly quick with multi emu
i see
some other guy had to rerol 150 acc to get doot, pain
Doot doesnβt even unlock every alchemy bubble nor bring it to 95% cap needs a buff tbh
And needs to give you lvl. 100 divinity
exactly. And most of progression is not from gods, it comes from cooking/alchemy
Come on lava pls buff
186 Iβm pretty sure 
Babe wake up, new doot discussion dropped
I wouldnt call that a discussion lol
where is deckhand? he is dead
Sleeping
they stated an opinion and got upset when someone rebutted
but i cant even ping him anymore
We need a game faq board for true discussion of this topic
There was a thread π€· but it was just the same nonsense that just occured
o maybe he left server
one side stating an opinion then getting upset when the opposite countered. Then reversed rolls and started again
lol for real I was meming cause who uses gamefaqs anymore
And that sounds pretty gamefaq tier discussion
The site is pretty good for like jrpg guides tho
I would assume so yeah. 200 glublin is a little harder but not too much
thats an old site damn
Yeah Iβve seen some hilarious debates on it
i cleared 190 waka with like 50 mins left
rough estimate i dont really remember the exact itme left
I should probably do waka again sometime 
well thats sad, i failed 200 glublin and am literally pushing 190 acorn right now. Guess that means ima lose lol
He burnt out 
What are your towers?
.......
no no i believe


I'm 2 for 3 on freezing during frosty 190 attempts

i failed 200 glublin 3 times now but passed 190 acorn
Iβm more mad my game somehow cloudsaved during TD crashes but not for 5 days when I tried updating when the event came out tho
Except I was doing the push 180 boss to 190 for more time. so I got no gains and wasted hours

Thatβs a rip and a waste of a lot of time
I might have underestimated 200 glublin a bit because of the 180 to 190 strat on acorn. Its probably quite a bit easier actually
Tho Iβm honestly not sure what is the cause
Maybe 190 frosty is a better comparison to 200 glublin
I forget what're the priority 8th and 9th classes?
sorry im dumb are you saying 200 glublin is not the same difficulty as 190 acorn?
Glublin should be harder but not by a huge amount
ah gotcha
yea i think i couldve gotten it last time if i didnt segment my tower sells
i was close already
TD for me too 
Honestly its kinda hard for me to gauge difficulty as I dont really know what numbers people have been clearing TD's with so I only have my own data to go off of
well i know my towers are a lot lower than yours
so i have to make attempts to see if i can match what you cleared and if not take it down 10 lvls
but i cleared 190 acorn with 292% atom and 66 poison/kraken
whats the best map to farm SB kills
I feel like 190/190/190/170/170/170 should be very doable for most people who at least have cost reduction cap
With the doot pet, are all minor bonuses active as well?
thats my goal for now yea
But as far as 200 glublin/wakka and 190 frosty go I'm not 100% sure on how much more you would need
If you mean the harriep minor link then yes
what's the meta for the moon TD?
realistically a few tower lvls and atom bonus % wont really make much of a diff
OJ for pure plunder per hour but wurms is still very good while also giving good exp/money/keys. I do wurms personally
unless we're talking about a 100-200% atom dmg diff
kk thanks
I have 456% atom
yea like your % vs my % i could see there being a noticeable diff
what's cost reduction cap for towers?
It caps at 95% regardless of what it actually says in game
And the level is different for each tower but its usually in low/mid 60's
Ah, getting there, most of my towers are at or above 50, but the important poison/kraken still not at 50
Yeah those are the two most important to get to cap by far
what's the new Waka set up?
And unfortunately the two slowest as well
How do I get nblb to target specific bubbles? Iβd love to atom this one
Be the lowest
It hits the lowest bubbles so level up all your low level bubbles that you can so it has a smaller pool of bubbles to choose from
so you can have it target that, just level the rest of your bubbles....its this one cool trick
ty! Are the other TD ones not pinned?
With one simple trick!
Honestly I wouldnt worry about it much and just atom bob in the mean time if you want to work on con. Its the more important of the two anyway and then you can swap to carpenter when it gets high enough
This is our pin for now
I thought it being at 11M salt means itβs not too far off atom range
This has a ton of useful links including a post from pancake he updates retroactively
All the guides will have a link there eventually
hmm
I see contract had the 0hp mob bug I had too
Idk if i shoulda placed my void tower here 
Usually mid to late 190's for most people depending on bubble cost reduction bonuses
finally got that big upgrade
Many times yes
why does every chat have a slowmode, except for w5
I usually wait
Although its technically possible to win with it depending on how bad it is
My current acorn and cans highscores were both done despite the zombie mobs
Nice, hopefully not too far off, my min is at 165
Weβre the trusted chosen channel
because the rest of the playerbase is slow at catching up /s
It was goblins and acorn on same day for me, ended at 130 and 110 that I partly assume was cuz of that bug, but I know my tower levels aren't good either
@signal osprey is this what you used for your 170 citric?
wanted to know what was to the right of the parties/kraken
Yeah I had another kraken to the right as well that wasnt purchased at the time of that pic
note, you can reach atom range sooner since they dont get discount and cost will be higher if you level on the off class...so mage/archer/beginner here
And at least a 4th party too. Dont remember if I had 5 or not
and just the usuall AAAAB/AAABB on parties?
All A on parties
or did you need more atk speed
150 citric is a bitch
I dont think I sold void for another kraken on that one though
i dont think i should put my void here
is 180 not doable on citric?
No chance
map too shit?
Boss too tanky
dogshit map
But yeah the map isnt great either
Not the main issue though. You could put the same wave on any other map and it still wouldnt be possible
i wonder why lava picked one of the worst map for TD at W5 (cuz he doesnt play TD cof cof)
ok cool so just go dps for 170
imagine if it were stiltmoles? cool map
180 citric has more health than any other TD beaten by far
That was an off class, and I canβt drop millions of salt on it with a matching class then swap to make use of that
dude this background is so cool, damn
im only missing now the grass one to finish all cool ones
then 100% focus on goldwatches !
Slabbing that pink headband has me tied up :<
was it 999?
yeah..
damn, whoever gets that has some big balls - respect
If you buy this, you probably should see a doctor and get it checked out
I guess if you don't care to lose out on almost 30 golden stopwatches
I canβt get it any other way unless lava manages to stream at a convenient time
fair point
Mismatching timezones
how to access here
Keep going past the boss map
oh sure whatfuck I didnt notice (recently arrive on the last map)
No worries m8
Moles is not the end
Nab the quest from the tired mole first though
I remember a while ago finding a google sheet that showed the best attack order for each class but I lost it does it ring a bell for anyone
Itβs basically a quest chain to open the portal of the last two
@signal osprey Did you prio lv 20 krakens or 20 poison first?
I think this was it, ty!
nah waste of cardifier
easy to card it
tremor is where ur parking the bubo
ur gunna be farming there at some point anyways and get a bunch of cards at the same time
is there something to make the 60 portal kills rift considerably easier because I can barely get half of them despite having no problems with the stages before?
spawn the portal at the smallest platform near the npc
Is this worth it?
the nado gets the job done
How is 2000 Kilroy even possible
might just be that 60b dmg is not enough
lots of respawn/timer upgrades
and bubo + a good map
Drop and pick it up
how exactly do you drop an obol? ^^
Oh shit true π
enter w5 town with it in your inventory
Answer wasnβt as easy as I thought it was
Thanks !
questions are many. answers are few
Unfortunately I deleted Dementia sword obols before entering W5
9 kills stop me from getting ruby cards....how frustrating
Correct answers are few * 
last one
that reminds me that when w6 comes out there'll be a whole new set of skulls to get 
So hyped for world 6 !!!!! I didnt even know it was the Next update until like 5 mins ago
Hey, so i dumped all 10 alts for this quest and kept them at around 30s login intervals.
Do i have to login and hand in the quest right away then login to the next alt etc. or is it enough to login, then switch to the next alt and it keeps track that "yes this person was off for the 4:10
https://i.imgur.com/fCgaeli.png
next major update
Next "big" update, we'll see if its soon or not
we might get a minor one first
Likely not
just me or does this door look a lil off?
#πfuture-content-blog message
I can't wait for it considering how complete my skulls already are π
w6 means easy 500 100 green stack though
wow so many? ;o
I want that kind of storage space
my math was a bit off there
Then I can start saving for the super super lucky lad statue ^^
Thatβs a water mill
/wheel
I still don't get the number to be honest
True itβs a lil wonky
500 is too much either way
But the blue gives away what it is
100 is already achievable if you're talking about all of them and +100 is unrealistic from a single world
Since we have ruby cards now, shouldn't events start giving us enough cards for it then?
Player housing leaked 
wasn't one of the old plans to have guild buildings/halls or something
I'm sure he's mentioned that at some point
however, I have to admit that would be one disappointing guild hall ^^ Looks more like background art to me
Did you do that on your blood zerker tho?
for the cooking speed
I laughed about the concept of it earlier so would be funny if it turns out to be that

If I just want the most fire and forget trap using the Rift auto trapping drone, is the 40 hour Royal trap my best bet?
Just for quantity of critters and some shinies
Mining dreadlo is the popular choice.
how much candy usually?
RNG. Sometimes 12 hours, sometimes 200 hours.
make sure you're speed capped and such for it
I did sandpots for some glass, but 600 hours in its kinda mind numbing, I hate candying too much
or just do beans overnight or something (what i did for some CC too)
use cosmics and pray if you have any lol
Lets see I guess
dreadlo is your best bet for candying a lucky lad
how does the super chow work? i have 2 mobs with more than 100M kills yet it still says i have 0
i need to spend more candies again
I learned that it only works on your second berserker
wel shi
it doesnt apply to you then lol
does that mean that super chow just doesnt do anything
it means it works normally
oh ok haha
the house always wins
Why is w5 TD so trash 
I'm ready for some more cosmics in the fomo shop 
i hate this game
noob
480 hours down on dreadlo, still no lucky lad
can u zow rift multiple times since theres different mobs in rift?
pre sure rift doesnt count towards zow
get the 100m before your rift goes too high
and I oops
So yeah around 1200 hours of candy on dreadlo to get lucky lad with 10x drop rate
thats what i'm doing right now
did you have 62 mining speed?

