#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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I know its not only that, but its the biggest chunk of recent stuff
Almost done with Wurm vial so just in time.
right as i almost finished manually super chowing w5
Where's the info from?
I was seee in game is pop up the mesage
post in game said next "big" update will be w6, so could be some smaller ones
wonder if he is going to fully enable the last two gods with world 6
also wasnt speculation "by the end of the year"
just play in web browser to avoid desync xd
Thats kinda old tho
Got that a few weeks ago aswell
Guess im lucky, didnt get a desync after cloudsaving
Lava's ingame Message:
https://i.imgur.com/yHvf6Sy.png
Is the trophy book guaranteed to be level 100 or I am just that good at clicking 
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you LATE brotha!!
😢
Will be nice to not have to rush through a world to get to new one this time around for me like I had to do when W5 released to get to the new skills.
I'm conviced this recipe doesn't exist
Why? MK doesnt help for those drops
Which world worship gives Shiny Prayer?
Open your afk info and check your kill multiplier e.g 2x 5x or whatever
World 1, 81 for shiny critters
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Worship
Thank you sir
Can anyone help me look into what I'm lack of? How do I show you guys my stuffs
ffs speaking of cards that reminds me i need to go back to grinding out 500 more kattle cards :/
I'm aware MK doesn't help. Even though I have a 12x MK when you've been murdering them with a 14x DR I'd expect it to have dropped by now
!ie
https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger#6559
But first clean up your account and do the basics
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What do you mean?
Added the link above
You are using ES without midas prayer right? Midas is bad for ES
best way to check is to see how many royal suggma drops you have since it would be a 1k : 1 rate for a "balanced drop"
1057
rip
Yeh so you havn't really been much of an "unlucky" yet

unlucky are the people who reached 3-5k royal suggmas in this chat xD
Don't worry, i got mine at around 800, so i'll bless you to get it at 1.2k to even out the odds xD
Don't worry with new world we might get even more rare recipe drops.
Really? Why?
Hi sir, just copy the link to you?
how can i increase my ladles gain per day ?
more efficiency, more afk gain
Midas -> Less Portal Kills -> Smaller DR boost
Stamps
worship, stop using wizard...get better skulls
upgrade traps so you cang et more critters
Send help 
kill your mini bosses with DK stacking orb before kill
Make sure to actualy get all the available stamps
And then pump those levels
Also mini bosses are maxed
But why? They aren't passive for cards?
Was afk, and yeh this is what i mean with clean up your account before posting it..
You should not be on "MAXED" minibosses
im normally kinda neutral on the artwork, but the tree guy slays #💖future-content-blog message
Got it, thanks! But I can put it on my DK, right? And I should max it out?
What do you mean theyre not for passive cards ?
ooof, 3 beginner classes...thats rough...you should also start zow/chow process now thjat you hit world 5
DK yes if u 1shot stuff its irrelevant. ES big NO becuase more hp = less wormhole kills
Also 2 of your guys are not printing anything
Honestly... just clean up everything step by step, page by page.
You are lacking in basically every area :/
It's not even worth poiting out stuff
Well make them a class ?
Doubt you want 3 vman 
When you have 200m oak logs in storage and you have stamps that cost 60k to upgrade..
That's not a good idea
did someone really ask for a review with two unassigned charcters? lol. i think they can maybe work out the next steps for themselves
(or 2 bubo is you have doot)
what, why?
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W5 is the ideal time to backtrack and do stuff like this to name a few:
https://imgur.com/c1RhPXA
Idk what class for them. As they say if I have doot I don't need 2x es
the only real advantage of ES is the double gods?
Its great on DK as long as you can still one shot the enemies.
Better MK, better gmush farming, better worship for more souls, etc?
2 Bubo does nothing at all
you cant active on 2 bubo lol
I just told you, 2x DK, ES, SB
Still you want them to not be a beginnert
Thats just wasted
Worst case you would make sure you have 3/3/3 archer/warri/mage
What did the Reach 50 refinery cloud on equinox give? I wasn't really paying attention and just clicked
and then decide what elite after
#1161718287835603004 or wiki
Thanks. I forgot about the wiki. Just assumed it wasn't updated
yeah i guess that makes sense, better leveling on bubo is the only thing i guess, and you can do liquid farming twice while leveling the second one. but i think your right that 2 ES is better
Doesnt my equi post have it all since day 1? 👀
Its not racing
Guess the easier levels which become kinda irrelevant. Especially with w6 around the corner
yep. w6 still gonna be a while though?
well we are getting the ingame announcements for it
Only lava knows
probably within a couple months, which means now is the time to clean up as much as possible before hand
yeha but seems like he jsut has a few sprites to showcase in future content, so i was thinking maybe by xmas
We've seen stuff since august then got a lot of inbetween filler stuff too
And wasnt speculation or rumor "before year end"
I'm afraid that'll take more than a few months for me ^^
Gotta rake in the christmas money
Loot 2 hours farming nightmare kruk
huh?

1B dmg?

I don't understand why though o.o
at least you can afk on ES
i want the staff 
now do vman XD
i just went out for lunch and afk'd for the task
if you want the teeth do easier difficulty
im cursed to never get cape drop
i respect it in the same way id respect someone that finished a marathon with their shoes tied together. its impressve, but the main question i would have is why
its so i can finish nightmare kill for task, working on getting all divine gear on all toons
Sorry don't want to party-poop too much but it's an es, just afk is just afk. Impressive is 2h on vman active stuff
lol i know man, was jsut joking about it
dude i even said above that you can afk it
yknow now im reconsidering if i should actually farm gear for everyone now that i see the w6 announcement 😭
worth
weapon has always built out of the previous weapon
probably big dmg boosts in w6 thou
true, my shopping list doesn't look to bad only nullo salts is gating me alot
but please dont sit there for more 1 h sessions my guy
i wouldn't rush the armor per se as we don't know what he'll make the w6 armor craft out of, but definitely make the weapons
hope your perma levling red and green
yessir
When can I reroll skill obols?
any point, but always lowest cost at the lowest grade
But when is the lowest point for skillpower
i'm perma leveling red-green
red, orange, blue and green don't stop babyyyyy
i only stop pink
wait, theres pink?
purple
https://shadowtraton.idleonefficiency.com/
I've been planning on farming the rest of the onyx statues but the W3 ones I have to farm with ES are progressing so slowly that I'm considering whether it's the best use of my time. Any suggestions concerning that or even something overall that I might be missing?
w3 statues will always suck
each of the w3 statues take roughly a week of active ES time each
or you can spend 100s of hours of candy
Oh....so that's normal. I thought it was because I was lacking so much damage
and that week of active ES time is if you have good DR and high dmg for a good portal
yep totally normal
I've seen them but that's not something I can get ^^
a day o.o
remember you'll need 100+ for all quests on all alts
if you got them in a day, good on you lmao
I'm diligently getting at least 10 a day from PO
it took my poor ES about a week each when they came out
hes talking about getting w3 statues to onyx
Yes, i know?
ouch on the alchemy, my advice would be use SB to eclipse greenmush with candy, while doing this collect a lot of greencaps and nails from anvil, use these to get the first 3 bubbles in atom range (if they are not already), then the main thing is to push first 3 bubbles on warr and wiz for better samples. thsoe bubbles should be much higher for your stage in the game. this will feed batter samples, and repeat
ty for the reminder i keep forgetting to do daily PO refreshes
also your larry bubble is cripplingly low, free levels man @hybrid spindle
was eclipse 1b or 100b?
1b
what did it do again?
i dont get what u mean by the alts part then
extra bubble levels, its a yellow bubble
My only point to your post of colo tickets is to not spend them all at once, as when you want to do all the quests on all alts you will need about 100 colo tickets. It was 2 seperate topics.
at 501 you get guaranteed 2 bubble level ups per click. (100%)
at higher levels you get ^ + chance at 3 bubbles per click instead
alchemy is the most important thing in the game, your best progress will come from having a carful look at the bubbles and pushing the fuck out of it. mainly skilling bubbles, construction and larry, among others @hybrid spindle
I don't do colo either.
oh for eclipse, its +5% dmg and +10% mk/tier in that world
thx
but gmush overall gives you big money multiplier
Yeah, I remember that. But I think I only get like 2/3m kills/h on gmush
You want much gmush so your money goes up like this:
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As for larry, I'm just printing gold for one more day then I'll probably move to this. However, there's no way I can hourly click that because I only have dementia prints of a few mil
just click it every 3-4hrs then
you dont need to hourly click to push alchemy, id consider that max-min stuff. log in each day, use atoms, push samples, more atoms repeat
a few clicks a day is better than none
Its already in atom range
that's the dream ^^ I don't lack money for the old bubbles but the new ones are actually capped by money instead of materials
???
stamps ig*
also your oak samples are very low compared to copper. Oak is a very easy one to boost for easy atoms
can't afford it. One larry upgrade costs me like 1.5k atoms while I probably get like 5k a day ^^
you get little atoms because your 3d prints are messed up..
you are doing mob mats on 5 of your 10 alts
as im trying to explain, atom the first 3 bubbles on wiz and warr -> bigger samples -> more atoms -> level stuff more
Can we not candy in w5? What's this mean
cant candy in newest worlds
Candy melts in the heat
fursthest world always bans candy, no candy till w6 out
is it average to need 15K keys per player for the cape?
Thank you 👍 That's totally fair
depends on DR, took me like 5-10k worst was probably like 12k, best was first kill
12k keys no necklace for scarf, but two capes
Yeah, I'll entirely resample once my vman is done getting cards up. I doubt it will change much though. I onyxed the skilling statues but I doubt that alone will just double my samples
Actually had a few within 30-50 kills
Go figure
i dont think my DR is terrible at 14.52 but man i cant get any luck
Also use #1084911530417606656 Alchemy bubble one, to get your skilling bubbles to like 80% or 85% effy.
This was my pic of going for 90% and just tracked my skilling ones with bigger numbers, bold was what i still need
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someone should make a review bot that automatically says "level alchemy, sort out your samples and stamps" whenever someone posts an ie link
Someone is working on that
haha really? awesome
Yes, i just got some juicy leaks >:)
but,but,but i did a bubble and 3 stamps
But, we shall see if things work out, i sure hope it does 🙂
Yes in the meantime you can always refer them to the alchemy flow chart 😂
He’s shilling the discord again
No date announced yet
Just usual mob leaks
what cards should i be using when mobbing?
ok. i'm not done kattlekruk farming and i'm only now getting grind time up to snuff
tree guy looks dope in the future content, i hope his quests dont suck
thanks for being a voice of reason @green eagle
This Sunday, let's goooo! /jk i wish
you ready? you already done everything to prep?
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its old but should give you an idea
thx
i'm still farming 5 star cards through afk gains >D
i'm only almost done with deathnote through w3
I think it will be last week of November/first week of December so he can ride that sweet steam holiday rush
Doing the nearly last 4-5 quests on my last 3 alts, then candy greenstack questies
So pretty prepped
with chems, do you wait until they're t5 or use them at t4?
up to you, i like t5 so it fully resets log
alright, thanks 🙂
and cat/rock on
should i have it on all the time?
i never turned it on except for when i was away for a week lol

Huh
it should be the opposite though?
If, then you would turn it off if you're gone long, and on if you're active
But i keep mine perma on, especialyl with new equinox nugget upgrade
Why? it gives you less bits but quicker evolves? So when I was away i just let it sit and hope for next tiers
Easier t5 chems = easier time skips/log skips = more nuggets
Imma make the switch and try it out!
you don't unlock higher tiers by "leaving for a week" you get them through chem/log time skips most of the time
So you would turn cat off when gone to maximize your bits
no but like higher chance to come back a new evolve if i leave with cat on than without 😛
But once your cycle time gets very low, and you keep cat turned on, you'll be filled with chems and it ends up looking like this near daily:
https://i.imgur.com/39r6wAl.png
lol nice
Thing is, as said, 1 week isn't much time if you'r going for lets say a t6
wait is that thing meant to be a cat
i thought it was a rock XD
well, technically a kitsune is a fox?
no idea
but i see people call it either rock or cat
good time to level my world 6 pets 
cat makes sense, its got ears
oh and another dumb question in gaming
the atom says it fails to the nearest 5
if i fail at lvl 8, will i get reset to 10? o.O
nearest 5 you can gotten to
round down
It does say reset, and a reset is usually back to the beginning
But i see your point ig
failing upwards only happens in managment, not games
rofl
do you guys skip making kruk gear pieces like chest and legs ?
Depends, different parts have different purpose
Magma better for sample.
Kattle top+legs with Magma head+feet better for the afk gain.
Kattle head+feet with Magma top+legs better for active DR/dmg
Essentially you would mix and match depending on what you are doing (afk kills vs active DR type of stuff)
hat and boots for DR, chest and legs for AFK, lava stuff for sampling, but tbh if you jsut upgrade it all to kruk its basically fine too
and over time just have both sets on every alt 😄
what trickz said, he wrote it out fuller
Interesting. Somehow i can't get past 2k
Because it's not even odds xD
well im not at the point i can make it all, but thanks for reply
What's your shovel level ?
its an exponential fall off or somthing, most will be very much towards the smaller end
It's shit, just got everything to 1 green. Lv 85
also remember that equinox nugget upgrade is a huge buff to gaming now
Which translates to 103% big nugget luck
man that equinox upgrade must be so fun if you dont have a nugget yet, i had 205k before equinox so still waiting on the pay off
im lazy on nugget farming thou
At your shovel level, getting the following nugget (or higher) should be:
2k = 1/102
5k = 1/429
10k = 1/1267
50k = 1/15'671
100k = 1/46'287
but Equinox nugget makes this all like 100x easier
GODDAMN THE MATH IS FAST
huh, what country uses ' for the thousands markers, never see it before
^
I'm still struggling with dreams, especially dungeons. I've skipped a few before, had no idea how actually important they are
And now i can't even kill 4th frog alone
switerland?
A bunch of European countries who like to keep their numbers more organized 😉
cool, i only seen . or , in EU before. turns out switerland and litchenstien do their own thing
In America we use ,
the dot . is such a terrible way imo
I agree. That spot is taken by the decimal point
daily reminder to buy your damned pickle
100.000
100'000
100,000
I've seen all of them and whoever thinks that 100 000 with a comma doesn't mean 100 has not paid attention in math
Just use *10^x 
Just got an in-game message W6 going to be in the next “big” update
imo at the end when you add the cents. ' makes the most sense
ok Switzerland
515'231.55
515,231.55
515.231,55
515 231.55
Second is the best
yes or no companion set 2 with world 6 launch 
I'm confused
Also for the ones that use . They usually use a , for cents
You guys cant even get your measurements and weights right, so psssh...
So it would say 515.123,66
Just remove all the punctuation of any kind and have us guess where the decimals go or if there even is a decimal at all
can we at least all agree that 100.000.00 is the worst format?
Just have it in plain binary
Hero that we don't deserve.
10^5
No place does this lol
america does, probably
stfu it does not
Wait till murica finds out and includes it in their feets and toes and what nots
You got a hardon for USA or what 😂
Best watch what you say about the US before I have my combat trained bald eagle come for you
I just dont like their measurements 😂
Pretty sad we dont get to have giant targets etc here
Don’t even tell em bout the tactical turtles
Hey atleast you got ikea
Hopefully
more than two score?
I think 3 in „close“ proximity
~ 1 hour drive
NOOO, DK WON!
Im not even sure how I ended up here, totally thought I was posting that in gen chat lol
The objectively correct choice 
W5 was supposed to be an “intermission” world right?
am i blind or didnt it say bubo it is before? xD
mod power hiding their edits, i see how it is 😉

I need to start clicking more plants soon 
click mine while you're at it

😮💨 said I was gonna do td this weekend... guess its time to start torturing myself
Can click chems while you're at it 
that will at least make it a bit better
Yeah you gotta beat my new nug
lol, doubt I will
my nug leaps have been smaller increments
but still gaining at least
I saw a guy on reddit do singular key runs of the W5 boss, so I gave it a go. 2100 1 key runs.
Mine were fairly decent but nothing too spectacular until the most recent
That one was base 500k roll lol
I have no clue what that could mean hahaha
Does Sailing level (beyond unlocking all 4 slots) affect the probability of Captain tiers?
I have 0 hope of hitting that
Looks like you have 877 more to go
Lol, im good for now.
Well yeah statistically speaking nobody should hope to lol
But you could hit it anyway 
what was the average base value of your small nuggets when you hit that?
My range was 85k to 136m
So it was very close to a max roll. Actually ridiculous luck
And that luck is why I won't get doot until pity now
My luck is now gone
damn, my lowend is like 50k right now
prayging for a similar nugget soon 
Hera I am on a 1m, cant imagine how happy id be if i got a 100m, let alone even a 10m+ o.o
wouldnt turning this off be better now with liquidvestment
It took me a second to even process what I was looking at
If trying to decant then yes
Somewhat yes and no. More annoying for GT unless you're very active, but also it splits 50/50 into cap/regen so harder to boost regen itself unless very active. but either way not losing 30% liquid is nice by itself too
yea it would be annoying
@tall horizon what's your nugget now?
miniscule
Oh nice. Just got lucky and hit 7.3m from 1.3m
I believe your next nugget will be 8 digits
As long as it doubles
My last one was 1.4, so this was a satisfying jump
Think it was my largest jump, most of the others were at or below 2x
Yeah i was getting very demoralized with the 10-20% gains seeing people hit 50m+
had to go back and check because of curiosity.
116k > 120k > 158k > 276k > 825k > 1.4m > 4.3m
Basically what I had, 170k, 210k, 230k, 730k, 1.3m, 7.3m
8 digits next would be wonderful, guess we'll see if I get one while doing these td pushes
Before Equinox: 10k, 13k, 15k, 17k, 18k, 19k, 31k
After Equinox: 32k, 75k, 183k, 216k, 658k, 1031k
the push to 500 on bm got me a dreadlo egg
first time i've gotten one
From the looks of it anything at 5m+ for my next would be nice ig
you're due for a big jump
I was already happy on that 183k and 658k 
but yeh having a 5x or higher nugget would definetely be nice as a jump
almost done with w2 quest greenstacks 
Since I've eclipsed wurms... should I just keep farming here or actually go do other mobs?
Nice, i unlocked those quests on my alts, mind sharing what strat you are doing? havnt really looked into much at all
I tried DK on sand castles, and that was absolutely terrible.
Currently having infinitely more success on ES
it's about 1-3 days for each stack (the drop rates change depending on which portrait)
oh you didnt candy?
Also ever time how many drops /h roughly?
depends on the portrait...I think the 1st was about 500k per hour
the droprates vary between 1/10, 1/13.3, 1/20
hopefully w6 gives us more char slots so i can get some ketchup
also it's a free greenstack to just start the cattleprod peak gaming quest, since you'll easily stack that up before the portraits
You get 24m next and then 178m after that
oh naice

Please that would be heaven!
Hi I'm new can any one help me I signed out trying to fix my account and now it's not working at all I can't even press the sync up button pls and thank you 🙏
did these ones...I'll get working on the rats stats quest as soon as I'm done w2
Wow 23m watches, do you recall what you did for those?
Beans
I just started the quest on every character, and turned brain off for a month
probably beans 😂
damn.. guess i gotta use 2nd DK at beans then, main dk finished that quest
I also have every spare character on gmush, so that probably contributed some as well?
but it was really a passive process, I was never actively aiming for completing the stack
sadly not gmush just crystals > slime/snake/carrot and colo/boss
ah, in that case it was just a lot of beans hahaha
in retrospect...when I was greenstacking w1 statues, that's probably where all the stopwatches came from
didnt know u could greenstack statues
more a question of "should you" 😂
wdym? its very easy doing the w1 ones
for the 200x Greenstacks and unlocking +1 talent equinox, yes
someone long time ago said that u couldnt greenstack statues to me, unfortunate
otherwise i would have greenstacked them already
that would be a weird thing to specifically code into the game...
yeah i was new player, no idea about how it worked
you can greenstack anything icluding gems
FeelsPoorMan, don't even have a greenstack of gems
Somebody say greenstack gems? Someday...
https://i.imgur.com/qCkMHR7.png
wow
imagine the arcade balls that won't get you the stamps with all those gems
rofl
only 400x more gems to go 
Lava gunna pull a switcheroo and turn them into a stack of green gems instead of a green stack of gems
it would around 8-10 years to greenstack gems with chizoar runs
once your chars are in the 450+ range are you just camping wurms... or saying screw it and GMUSH
di u manage to get the talent drop rate book to 100?
@dapper prism after a quick 15 minute calc, it looks like I'm getting 250k paintings per hour on mafiosos
so about 40 hours of active ES to finish the stack
Tyvm! 🙂
Was candy like terrible or did you just never bother candying it?
oh right, more info: 15x DR, 9T damage, lvl 305 talents
I never tried candies, let me check what 1 hour would be
ok, it's 20k/hour with candies...so not bad, but not great either
yeh guess the typical roughly 10x more active
Still need to lvl 13 the last soul, so may be worth candying some of it
anyways candies finished up that stack 😂
time for sand castles...
Do I buy this?
yes, 100% yes
even if it didnt have the artifact chance on it, that 56% loot is high af
its a shame most people wont ever be able to get ketchup greenstack
only one tho
someone claimed there was something about potentially resetting/prestige/redoing the same quests again? (probably w/o rewards type of thing i assume)
Is W6 looking closer than we thought then?🤔
how about this guy?
Wasnt rumor always end of year?
Depends, he will be great for a while to unlock all the clouds, the speed is pretty high too
idk
seems like nonsense
probably end of november, no way he would put a massege for something more then 6 weeks away
based on what lava initialy said when he was theoricrafting this game
Idk, if there's literally a game mechanic and you can lock yourself out of it then i can see it as a "potential" thing.
Especially since we will most likely get another x Greenstack Dream task in equinox
w6 and everyone will instantly reach 200 easily '.'
no problems to be seen
i think its more like, in the beginning lava didnt think anything about greenstacking those items, so not taken into consideration
but what about the next one e.g. 250 or 300 greenstack based on previous clouds and future unlocks?
I hope no more greenstack dreams 
I'm still surprised there were no get x slab slot tasks
will always be possible to be completed without those weird lockedd items
like 200 greenstack, u dont need those weird lock items to finish it
I mean, you might
but who knows, i doubt he would ddo some quests that lock 99% of the players
Pretty sure the suggested list of 213 greenstacks includes 13 quest items.. So you're getting there by the skin of your teeth without them
yep
Until W6 when it'll be pretty easy
It also includes salts which essnetially req doot
its not a quest supossed to be completed now, thats the point
if u are greenstack maniac its cool u get it done now, congratulations, but its not supossed to haha
Isn't there like 4 statues on the 213 list too? Which isn't exactly ideal
That's your guess / interpretation. We don't know what he was thinking 🤷
statues are fairly easy to greenstack lategame
It's still not ideal
I want the 200 greenstack, which gives the +9 talent points, which means more aura width = more cc
I'm on like 186 I think
huge aura
yeah
I wish it mattered for me 😦 I'm 9 width either way
its something u just wait and finish W6 or squeeze the hardest items to greenstack D:
No slug?
one thing that saddens me is that its not pheasible possible to greenstacak shiny critters
my point still stands that we may very likely get a higher greenstack dream if it is based on previous challenges
Right
I'm also slugless
doot on 19th Roll though
yeah then we wait for new world, rince and repeat
Give us a 1400 slab dream tbh
I might be able to hit 1400 if I go do these dungeon weapons 😂

Ahh, I'd be 1395. Just barely short.
oh so close
Yeahhh I'm just about at 1400 with the dungeon weapons
yes please
Some of the prem/ecent hats don't count though which is annoying
1400 slab dream would make more sense than 200 greenstack
200 greenstack could be unlocked with W6 release
truueeee
anyone up for dungeons? pickle 18 r40+ 🙂
Even with W6 200 is still a tall order for the majority
We already have a 1400 slab task though, yeah?
yep, at least would make more sense
There's no slab tasks
idk my slab is 1369
Missed opportunity
oh
In le dream
thats 1410
we mean equinox
Right. My point was Slab feels like a duplicate thing to do in a Dream, considering we already have a Task for it
u are forgetting that those tasks are useless
No-one cares about the task board past a point
a very early point also kkkkkkkk
wonder if it gets a purpose in w6 again
dont we have something with refinery rank?
Ah shrines is a w3 task
dungeons are achievements
Dungeon achievements don't specifically require solo like the Dream. Still a bit different
true
Same with the Total TD Waves task not quite being the same as exactly this level on each like the dream
They're all little tweaks except the shrine level
some content should be a challenge for players, goals to push are a good thing
content that can be completed immediately by all just means no longevity for releases
agree
For sure
My only wish was for us to be able to restart those quests to get greenstack on ketchups :[
Yeh, the main arguement though is should the content like 200 greenstacks require questies that you can get blocked from
Its possible without them... just more a difficult
Based on your list its nearly impossible
I'm locked out of 4 quest items
oh yeah, not actualy complaining about the 200 greenstack quest, more like just to greenstack them (no reason behind)
Still think I can get to 200 pretty comfortably
i would like to greenstack ketchups and mustard, but its impossible now (something like that)
Until Alt 11
its understandable since greenstack mechanic was introduced at W4, oh well
Is alt 11 going to be an ES though
imagine not getting journeyman on steam, foreverer without 1 achiev
It's going to be a Monk or a Jedi
i think we getting 1 extra character only at W7+
You dont specifically need char 11 to be an es, candy can be used on a lot of the greenstacks
I'm still expecting 13 characters overall when it's done
Anyone got their 11th and 12th characters?
Not possible yet
What bubbles should I focus on for dmg on dk?
I have amazing armour and weapons but I'm only doing 44b dmg
Really??? You can't get all chapters to level 999??
Another vman would be fun tbh
we should be getting 13 character available with the next 3 classes after the next 3 at W7
alvin can do it
True, if anyone can
this already exist
does not
Only for elite classss
oh u meant the initial class
class switch is non existent. we have sub class and elite
Not second class
my bad true. I dont think that will ever exist
Me
if u pay attention 1st NPC tells u its a not a thing that can be undone, BUT 2nd and 3rd npc dont

how high can you guys get your wormhole/flag/orb to i can usually only get wormhole up to 120-130 flag i can get up to 150 and orb about 180
In what reference?
ha your pic complement your comment perfectly kkkkkk
Thank u
flag shouldnt get that high if you use vman eclipse talent
that explains how i can get that that high then cause i am shooting for the achievements for the sub classes
Also orb depending on location i get to like 800-900+/-
180 seems on the low side for an orb, e.g. didnt set up crystal rate/choco chip or max orb talent kinda thing
@tall horizon dude, do u know what is a weird coincidence? Each one of you very old and faithful player specialized in a specific area like: Pancakes has insane TD, u have insane greenstacks, buddha has insane alchemy. Funny right?
i must be quite unlucky,, wonder if ill get over 100mil before recipe drops
MK doesnt affect drops like that
its screen kills
Rookie numbers
this is all active on ES
i am doing the max book drops for my DK right now i think i am about 20 checkouts (i have 160 talent caps)
max screen kills is around 7k-8k per hour iirc
Use royal suggma to mark how far you are as it would be a 1k : 1 rate
Still no recipe
Game is too big to do it all
gotta focus on the things we enjoy the most and hyper min max
its such a funny coincidence kkkkkkk its like u guys are running a big idleon SECT being the elders of each part
A few players used to keep lists of which users were known for which area lol
guess im fairly unlucky then still
What if I accidentally made 4x warrior lmao
The longer you play, it also becomes damn near impossible for others to catch up/pass you in areas. So kind of just comes with the time lol
How many of these did you all keep? xD
https://i.imgur.com/WpxOIm0.png
New users will never be able to gain on my stamp collection 🤷
Pray that W6 give another char
i kept them by not doing the quest on more than 2 players lol
pretty much lol
some people say 2 bb 2 dk is meta, it's definitely the best right now but if new classes comes before more character slots you may miss stuff
You need some lucky lad for the latest scarf so I guess I'll keep 10 in stock
was searching for that lol
I’ll be able to finish slab and greenstacks!
Oh dammmmmm
2 warrior + 2 dk is better than 2 SB
yeah, pray that 1st new class isnt archer kkkkkkkkkk
damn message from lava in game about w6
does anyone know if that means w6 is close or he is just hyping it up for when it comes?
i believe its end of the year close
2 months is reasonably close
so i have about 2 months to catch up on content
i think he meant in the way that "all pré W6 big updates have been finished" so dont expect anything before W6 anymore
Both
I said this... moved my BM to glublin map.... and forgot it. Just been sitting there doing nothing this entire time 😮💨
Next big update is W6
He wont do that, considering older players like me, he cant
Source: In game message
i mean my biggest limiter right now is grey salts from progression
hope i hit eldritch fury before that lol
strategizing for killing goblins, gotta prepare. I've watched goblin slayer and those fends are very treacheroius
Very first one !
I was refering to the 10x Quest trophies
What's that ?
The trophies on that pic. But not the lads
Oh ok, I though there was a quest for which you needed 10 trophies lol
Oh nawh, nearly done with all quests, but some rewards just pile up your alts bags xD
Just finished W3's Lord/Shuvelles/Crystal/bill (for all alts)
Are we making a pre-w6 checklist?
Not really, this was just my goal after i finished eclipse
is kattle doable with 40000m on vman?
Pushign last skill bubbles to 90% and wanted to push quests and do one final good sample
As long as you can kill moles you can kill nkruk, just a matter of how long
If you have the time and will even 5b would be doable 
But 40b should be decently doable MAX YOUR FIST TALENTS!
Iirc you’re looking at over an hour of focus with that damage
i meant doable as in reasonable
When you talk about 90% you're referring to the max value of the bubble ?
(That you can find in the speadsheet)
https://minirax.idleonefficiency.com could someone take a look at my vman to see if im missing anything dumb
15minutes or so
oh thats not bad
dmg cards
With that stats I can get a kill every ~20 sec
Oh that is only 5555 hours of active farming for the 1 mil
It's for the last difficulty of Kattle
ahh
Do I need to be on my highest cons DK to get the highest roll cogs, or is just having them exist at that leve lenough?
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Cons level give higher chance for better cogs ?
I really hope W6 health scaling is high and not something we'll all just Storm through
Max possible roll is based on best cons level lyeah
It must be accessible by "new" player
You can look at the scaling of previous worlds to estimate where w6 wil lbe
Everyone playing since release will obviously storm through at least the first half of the W6
the other day I saw a link to new TD guides, anyone has that?
Must it be? I've played under a year and probably ahead of the average player but is it bad if people are 'stuck' in W5 awhile
i.e. take the scaling on w1-4 and multiple the range of w5 accordingly. Can't incllude w5 in the rate because the newest world always has a higher heallth scale and is llowered when a new 1 comes out
Well I said new player but I mean player that played for a few months
But obviously people with low alchemy and bad stamps won't even get through W5
I don't think someone has to be able to progress the next world instantly 🤷♂️ make them actually work on some alchemy/stamps/skills
youd be suprised at how far people get with zero understanding of game mechanics. brute force pushing gets there eventually
I agree
i'd be really surprised if the last w6 mobs went beyond 1T hp
Yeah unfortunately W6 isn't going to put up much resistance for a lot of players thats just the way it is
does IE displays shrine effect with bonuses already like chaotic chizoar card?
which with new w6 skills problably won't be hard to get to a lot of people
Tbh considering the scaling so far with bosses, if youre able to beat nightmare kattle reasonably you will probably just storm through w6
Probably ~500B if you look at the scaling up until now
Just how it is with nightmare bosses and previous worlds
i liked the idea of harder zones past the boss room, hope he sticks with that idea
the thing is w4->w5 skilling is a lot bigger than the previous worlds scaling, maybe it's because lava nerfed previous worlds but i think the scaling will be bigger, just not big enough for endgamers
Can you explain ?
Surely his cat will step on the 0 key when he's coding mob health in W6 
Wurms aren't required in W5 like
like in w4 boss map is last map, in w5 there are some "optional" maps after the boss
Gimme some Q hp mobs with an eclipse skull portal requirement
Make it happen lava
Bloodbone too
Maybe it might scale much harder who knows
I'm afraid of new portal requirement tbh
HP going up is ok, but portal requirement in the M is maybe a bit too much
The equinox damage boost alone is a massive power spike to most players
yeah it might be like 100m kill portals or somethign to time gate it out
Enough to justify more harsh scaling
Lets get 1B portal requirement for last portal!
Endgamers need something to do
But the kph will also be in the M too so high counts don't mean much
That's the purpose of rift (in theory)
I could probably get enough kph to unlock wurms in an hour now lol
Most have completed rifts
rift didnt deliver on that infinity > 51
And if equinox ends at Ruby cards I've basically finished that too, I can't imagine what the people playing since the start have left to do
It's hard to get kph in the M even in late W5 rn
If I only began in January
You mean rift ?
Define "hard"
Damage hasn't meant much to late/endgame for far llonger than just w5 existing
The opposite of easy
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
No the 100 ruby card dream
What's that ?
if only this counts 😢
pushing alchemy is probbably one of the longer term game mechinics, its hard to "finish" it. in terms of novel content yeah a lot of stuff is probably finished
Equinox dream that requires 100 cards at Ruby level
If you have 90% on all bubbles it's more than enough
btw buy your pickles daily if you havnt yet
I llove whitescreening during cog clicker
For the lvl2 vial ?
I'd say 95 is a good target in alchemy, then go hard and get 99% in some
some bubbles dont have a % though
Did it today, both for equinox and achievement, a pleasure
Then you quick slap and Bob forever 
Yeah but there isn't a lot of bubble with linear scaling
ive not heard of anyone having "finished" alchemy anyway
Feel like thats all based on perspective though. I find W5 portals pretty easy
If endgamers pushing 200+ TD waves with 500T+ damage, 20k+ bob etc stil find things to do then you most certainly can find something to do stilll
There is no end to alchemy but you can reasonably say you've finished with most bubbles if they're 95%
Base stats, slap, Bob and all are forever goals though
You'l never be done leveling quick slap as llong as it remains a small exponentially scaling bubblle
new companion that turns all alchemy bubbles linear
which ones quick slap again
With my highest DPS char (maybe not min-maxed)
All prayers active with no negatives pet please 
base damage green
ah yeah
What's your kph @signal osprey ?
that ones good
new companions is the answer to everything
I only keep track of my gnush kph
tbh most of the curses are irrelavant at some point anywya
What's your kill count ?
18.6m/hr
136% afk gain rate is pretty low
Not on nobi either
So double that if I was seriously pushing portals
The damage, double def/acc loss and carry cap are all notable though
he has no scarf and prb no kruk obols
The day you get doot on free pet rolls you're gonna zoom real hard huh Contract
Oh... Endgamer 
Contract is midgame, hardstuck duh
My bad
Plus I dont have doot which is the end game requirement now
Looks like you doing just fine without the help
Yeah doot or no doot is like being a new player or a lategamer
Just dye your blue gems green, then roll for doot
1 simple trick lavaflame2 doesnt want you to know 
Just need kattle and badgur to get bonuses
Slowly pushing these god damn red cogs off my board
Got my lowest cog from 69 to 79 in 1.5h or so, not bad cog clicking lluck alll things considered
Reallly wish these row directionals would roll exp % though
How many cogs/tick ?
Eh, takes 3 to get a cog. Not doing some insane thing
Was more rollling for the double cogs for equinox, need about another page worth of them to be done
Just to be sure, you're doing it on DK with your DK crafting the cogs ?
No I'm not trying to go mega fast
O'm on DK for the better build rate, but not taking them off board
Why not doing it faster if you can ?
Woulld rather builld towers faster
It won't change much if you do it for 1 hour
I just moved mine over while I was there watching the cogs then moved him back when I was done
Not overly fussed if I'm honest
Tho still only halfway to the double cogs I need lol
is there a reason to get faster respawn over +10 on killhorn? cuz my timer is still 52 seconds
I can get 2 cogs a click if I put both my DKs in it
Not the worst, not the best
Making cogs fast just lleads to whitescreening faster
But done 6 times faster
sup guys, what is the best class rn to do solo dungeons for Equinox?
I used DK for both W1 and W3 dungeons
And Vman for W2 but last trials were bugged so impossible to get to the last snake
hmm, oka. Thanks bro
pretty much doesnt matter much, dk will be easiest for w1
due to shockwave aoe
vman multi fist doesnt work in dungeon
Especially once you have R50+ 1 mana but +150% atkspd, gets opop
dungeon2 is a crapshoot sometimes since you can just get screwed going for 3rd snake but it is possible, especially with no timer on the boss
i basically afked 3rd snake for like 10 minutes, barely had enough damage to trickle through to it lol
Yeah I don't even understand why W2 dungeon boss has so much HP
Like.. The trials were before
No need to see who can wait for 3 hours
especially without timer, makes no sense
w2 dungeon bosses don't have that much health, basically any DK setup works even if you don't roll horn
You must have every dungeon stat max and rank 50 if you say that
mm, yeah and like rank 45 ish? Something llike that
I'm rank 44 and most useful stat high/max but my Vman was doing almost no damage to doots
it's a mix of high hp and w2 dungeon giving shit all in terms of upgrades compared to 1 and 3
God knows, I didn't roll horn and just spammed as many relic things as I coulld get along the way and snake 3 took like 3-4mins to down, wasn't awful
After an hour of farming I got a new best gold nug
I had horn on my equinox run and snake 3 still took like 20 minutes to die lol
anyone know why equiping the divine scarf isnt working for the quest?
nvm just had to refresh
Can anyone IGN starts with P or S, Says: "1 star, game sucks!"?
Thank you
Thank you sir
Can anyone IGN starts with P, Says: "1 star, game sucks!"?
I have S sorry
It's okay sir
What do you think I should do, farming 100k ladles for equinox or farming deathnote for more cooking eff ?
Is the 2x ladle drop still bugged or not ? (iirc it was few months ago)
1k a day wont get u far
Yeah but idk how much I can make even if I farm for a month
Like a bit of a “break” between the 1st and last half. I think i remember lava saying something like W5 is where you’re supposed to make sure W1-4 is in good shape or somethin.
Yeah you're right
ok what's the strat guys?
give to ES or DK for quest?
Get the Onyx first with those 20k, then farm every statues to 20k. Then drop them to get every statues Onyx
do they get used up?
in that particular case they do
ok so this will be used just to activate onyx?
you'll need to do the quest twice for both the skill and kaw pow 20k stacks anywho
Yeah
W1 farming is done quickly, then W2/W4 then W3
why w3 last?
Idk
ok trust I guess
But I heard it's terrible to farm W3 statues
aight
The bonus is huge btw
after you're done onyxing make sure you max the snake skin vial as well as get as high as you can for the Startue Statue bubble in the Kazam Cauldron
if you're even more of a max/min nut then get as many max vials as you can for the vial mastery bonus (assuming you're that far in rift)
Ideallly save kazam till you have 100% double cheance on snake skin
is that like... 27 or 28 vials?
Where do u farm them at?
I am at 97.5% at 25 maxed vials
Less I think, I'm at 22 and I have 93%
Yeah I'm watching the guide now so I don't miss anything but thanks!
Beans W1
Pins has all the info
There a way to stop crystallin drops? Gotta sell full invy about 6 times just to do the event
turn in the quest?
You only need 2 of those stamps - 1 t ounlock it and 1 for hand in
Lol that easy huh?? Ive hated then damn things for months
It doesn't consume on hand in
The mobs from ES portal only drops mats and coins right?
what else would they drop?
Will they drop like statues or
if the statues are in their drop pool
e.g.
U can add them to the filter
The idling skilling trophy can be acquired through playing mobile or just the steam version?
No point adding it to the filter, literally just go compllete the quest and it'll stop dropping
It's a quest item that onlly drops as long as the quest is active
0.05% did I luck out?
idk if quest items even show in the card list
I think w5 some maps keep dropping it
Nope
The stamp is only in the drop pool of crystall mobs for a character that has the quest it is required for active. Foreiting the quest or compelting it removes it from that character's drop pool once again
i
No clue, better ask in the IS discord, but i do know mobile (especially IOS) still had big gamebreaking bugs. Steam is the safe way to go
Not really a world 5 question but i have been working on it since world 1 to 5.. When will i get my first lucky lad i feel very unlucky with 10 characters still not getting a single one.
where do you farm square drop rate obols?
Is the lab x5 liquid cap worth it if I have 23/hr?
It's down to you
If you are active and spending your water, then keep it off. But also with proper CC and low caps it can be annoying af
Pots with DK to get glass at the same time for stamp
Ok thanks
Whats your DR and do you ever active DK or bubo?
I'm curious....where do you guys have your shrines?
Non dooters keep it in w4 ever since w4
4.15 on my bubo
dooters mostly move it to either w1 for gmush grind or "maybe" w5 if they want to perma alt their alts at wurms
preciate it, im just getting finished with pop obols and needed to know where next
Yeh that's really low for w5, should definetely get your obols setup
i assume being in lab through bear is enough to give progress to shrines then?
so bear is not enough?
then I might as well leave them in w5 ^^
Else a dooter wouldnt need to move it away from w4
Typically a non dooter would always have around 4-5 alts in w4
I see ^^ I'm atypical then
I'm the one who has like 7 guys in rift rn
although that would be more of an argument for having shrines in w4 ^^
Just think about short term and long term
w5 has near 0 multi-alt content for long term
so might have w4 when w6 comes out ^^
right now I have most chars in w5 because I still have to do the quest/farm keys and since I'm so far behind on everything that will probably stay that way until we get w6
When I finish my Adam Collider I can smash Adams together
Almost 10k. Then I can go back to mob vial mats on ES.
just vman 3d print mob mats
true
ES faster if you're not gonna resample anytime soon
how do I do the get lava skulls rift quest?
killll mobs
just auto?
If you want to brute force it ya
Otherwise manually kill the biggest skull on the map continually
not dk or bubo
thanks ive been auto for like an hour on dk
es can be risky at times
bb fine?
anything that can clear the map = no
bb is terrible, has no insta respawn mech
rather like sb
i need 0/2 so i can do both my SBS
DK also a bad idea for that reason.
ill do it on both my Sb's
making 75 spaces in inventory for lucky lads was task #1. making 76 spaces so you can craft the luckier lad was task #2. now we have a 34 billion damage upgrade
+1 slab or something
Guess thats something, mine went straight to DK xD
my dk is wearing the kattlekruk trophy. he's quite attached.
I just love maximizing DR on him
Mine let Bubo get 21dr and still wear some money / active exp cards. Way to go, Bubo
yeh ill definetely be ditching dk soon and going back to bubo, gotta Level GT for w6 prep 😄
my 5th highest level bubble xD
i hate grind time
im glad i didnt waste time on grind time and grinding lvl 500 chars xD
Speaking of I need to grind another dice obol 
i'm at 7k
Go grind grind time 
shooting for 20k, but if w6 comes out first...guess i'll die
Issue for GT is that with the price increase.. going from like 10k to 17k takes same lon as 17k to 20k kinda thing
do it snail IK u want to
well we just gotta wait for w6 to get easy lvl 500
Yeah. I'm just trying to find something worthwhile to do pre-w6 that holds weight
