lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[spring haven]

I guess bugged

[storm kelp]

I jsut saw a guy with a fish head lvl 504 running around with gold body armour, diamond legs and other stupid gear. He can probably flick his bugger on me and remove myself from the timeline as if I never existed

[spring haven]

I just spend 20 mins and 6 bottled wind

and never tried before

if u have bottles u should try

[serene solstice]

game pls give me this fucking 100m nugget D:

[spring haven]

Hmmmm hard to tell, I don't write very well, but...
I did it bc it was the treasure rotation that I was looting, so, I trade until 600 about gold bars, then I started to claim treasures one by one, and after every claim I refreshed with TP bottle, to see if I was reaching the 778-776

[untold saffron]

New milestone

[steep zealot]

Is there a prefered spot for the 100k secs of cranium cooking for equinox?

[tacit tulip]

do you think I got enough upgrades?

[untold saffron]

Oj Bay is pretty reliable if you can't tremor

[spring haven]

wurms

[fallow aurora]

[steep zealot]

Hmm lol, ok, prob gonna try oj then

[safe harness]

i just did it oj despite feeling really under prepared

[untold saffron]

1800 killroy kills this week, I cri

[steep zealot]

351m is my max dmg so ill give it a shot .-.

[untold saffron]

Ez

[safe harness]

198 CC talent, 207 tent, aura one shots but not poison.. 134 alch bubble....i helped it a little by spaming abilities since it feels like game doesnt use em right away might have got a few extra uses in

[teal sonnet]

how many kills per hour should I have for portals?

[pure ember]

The gold trade doesn't really matter bc I already got a good trade deal and eldtrich true lantern

[teal sonnet]

whats a good ammount

[safe harness]

my dmg was 438m, but i only think it matters that aura one shots, it was 193 for me

[untold saffron]

Have you just reached W5?

[steep zealot]

Hmm ok then, should be fun .-. whats your level on CC?

[teal sonnet]

I am undergeared

and under bubbled I am at citrines now

More or less 2k Kph

[untold saffron]

Focus on fixing any systems you neglected while getting to W5 then

[safe harness]

198 and 134 on alch bubble, 193 aura

tentacle over 200 is a must

[velvet hornet]

what's the strat for alchemy at this point in the game? I need more bubbles to spend stuff on, but my chances are always under 1%

[teal sonnet]

is there a catchup sheet? XD

[untold saffron]

[pure ember]

Newbie: "I just entered w5 what do you do"
Everyone: "fix your previous world skills, stats, and foundations"

[zinc torrent]

does anyone know why im getting 11/hr instead of 14?

[untold saffron]

They not wrong though

[steep zealot]

Dope, that's pretty close to all mine

[teal sonnet]

Fix EVERYTHING

[pure ember]

Thing is it has to be said atleast once a day or 2

[teal sonnet]

its hard to know what to fix sometimes

[pure ember]

Alchemy

[teal sonnet]

lots of features

[untold saffron]

Put more simply, pushing W5 isn't THAT important

[teal sonnet]

I just wanted to know what is a solid ammount of kills per hour

[untold saffron]

What you gonna do at kattle if it takes 3 hours per kill

[teal sonnet]

how many dmg do u need?

for kattle

[modern plaza]

chill

[pure ember]

What do I need to fix with every bubble at atom...... every thing

[pure ember]

Chaotic is 2.5T nightmare is 1Q

[teal sonnet]

u dont need mastery or anvil discount dw

[teal sonnet]

I meant normal :/

[pure ember]

Kattle hp

[pure ember]

...... I have been playing before that was something to take in consideration

[untold saffron]

Normal kattle is pretty useless right now until W6, you do him for the trophy and scarf which requires NM

[pure ember]

And by every I meant all but the bit bubbles........

[teal sonnet]

oh alright, i just wanna reach w6 before it launches lol

[untold saffron]

You have 2 months or more imo before worrying about that

[teal sonnet]

Oh then Im fine, im finally being optimal

[untold saffron]

Get your alchemy bubbles up, equinox tasks, atom production

75 lab on everyone

[teal sonnet]

I only started playing properly when I reached w5, im those noobs that did w3 with amarok

[untold saffron]

amaorak is efficient all the way through 3

You did the right thing

Look at this King, I've never seen this before

[teal sonnet]

that sheet is actually helpful for new w5 players

its hidden lol

[steep zealot]

Forgot I had Deathnote prayer on. So Im back to 604m dmg. Oops 🙂

[pure ember]

Surprised it's not pinned at this point

[untold saffron]

That prayer is pretty dead, I'd avoid it

[steep zealot]

Even for working on Deathnote?

[untold saffron]

Yeah the damage loss works out to a net negative usually

The multikill prayer is pretty good though

If you can handle the accuracy/def loss

[teal sonnet]

is there a full prayer guide?

[steep zealot]

Hmm, interesting. I'll probably stop using it

[teal sonnet]

like a sheet

[steep zealot]

Yeah the multikill one I have on all the time

[untold saffron]

The guide sheet has a TD page with builds

I'd rush level one of the TD equinox bonus first though

[teal sonnet]

nonono

I cant get 20 greenstacks

I mean I can

but its gonna be tedious for me

at my point

should I greenstack base mats?

[untold saffron]

Considering Rashaken worked out 213 plausible Green stacks yeah it's a pain

I'm at 183 and running out

My equinox is at the 'wait a month to progress lol' tasks

[potent maple]

but you still get bar fills you can spend

[untold saffron]

380/hr

[bright current]

does DR impact money drop?

[untold saffron]

Yes

[bright current]

u have that shit pre typed? daym that was fast lmao. ty

[autumn wasp]

@dapper prism https://streamable.com/extkm0

[bright current]

follow up question (i assume the answer is yes) money drop cards are more impactful than a DR card for money farming

[potent maple]

ulti cog one isnt that hard, put both your DKs on cog production and just sit there with the window open clicking, should be able to fill all your possible storage within one minute and delete anything that isn't double cog

[safe harness]

few stacks are freeish, like food in w5/4 gives 4.

[untold saffron]

It rounds up though if I remember correctly

Yeah I did 1800 killroy this week

Need a bit more time

And pray next week is Mage again

[potent maple]

i have no idea how i'm gonna get 100,000 ladles ugh

DKs supposedly get "ok" amount of ladles for not being cook

[potent maple]

i have sheepie

😄

[untold saffron]

Sheepie deserved to be slug tier honestly

[bright current]

tyty

[untold saffron]

You rank 4 pets above doot? Oof

My son isn't pleased

[sly horizon]

@unique lagoon NBLB is my favorite investment tool...

[untold saffron]

Does doot not save headaches of lab swapping and god swapping for samples though🤔

[sly horizon]

gotta put bloque and sandy pot above it, they for sure better ❤️

[untold saffron]

I think the omni procs alone are enough to make doot top tier

[untold saffron]

Sandy pot was my first🥵 he has a special place

[fluid tinsel]

I don't know, it's very good qol but there's a lot of garbage big bubbles too

it's not like doot which is just overall busted

[sly horizon]

Yeah, like the sailing speed big bubble, who needs sailing speed? what is this, one piece? 😛

[untold saffron]

Yeah I agree, now put double equinox fill rate as thr badgur bonus please lava

[fluid tinsel]

I think lava meant sheepie to be obtained by everyone

eventually

[pure ember]

I would say it is tied with slug

Especially late game

[vocal ibex]

If it was doot level more people would be crying and complaining

[torpid wyvern]

why did lava put a time limit

i only got 288 untill next wave

[pure spindle]

Was it instant?

[prisma furnace]

I read somewhere that pastpresent brood is bugged, 7th upgrade of breeding. Is this still the case?

[teal lynx]

Lava didn't think anyone would actually take that long in TD and just put a random time limit

[spring haven]

wtf Im in the same clouds and have 326/hr

[torpid wyvern]

yeah like wtf nice 7h wasted for nothing

[teal lynx]

More lvl 13 Vials probably

[spring haven]

Me too

[inner python]

advice for famring up those 10k power statues?

[serene solstice]

what time limit?

[inner python]

farming *

[torpid wyvern]

the limit limit you have on td

[serene solstice]

since when?

[inner python]

Thanks

[teal lynx]

Time limit was always there. But you never went for 2 1/2 hours on 1 Wave

[torpid wyvern]

how should i now since td was a thing

[serene solstice]

I was in td once for 5h and it worked completly fine

idk about what time limit you talking

[untold saffron]

Yeah it looks like vial levels

[spring haven]

how many vial 13lvl you have?

[serene solstice]

meanwhile me waiting for nblb to make that high enough for atoming

[untold saffron]

47

[spring haven]

hmmm maybe that

[teal lynx]

For example. You start wave 200 at 5pm, a timer of 1000? seconds will start counting down at 7:30pm. It doesn't matter how long u took before that
This assumes there is no lag. Before the equi update td runs had way longer irl time compared to ingame time

[dry sluice]

I'm done. Bern playing for years, no LL, AND HE EXPECTS ME TO GET 15

[untold saffron]

15? You mean 75?

[dry sluice]

ITS

HOW MANY

[fluid tinsel]

Did he have a stroke when he was typing this description or is it just a reference I don't get

[teal lynx]

Meme

You don't know the meme? I'm old

[serene solstice]

oh thats bad but okay at some point understandable since you just could keepy your game opened while it fights the last wave xD

[fluid tinsel]

Nope haha

[dry sluice]

HELP HOW DO I GET ONE LL ALLBEIT 75

[teal lynx]

Stop typing in caps fucking hell

[untold saffron]

Candy on dreadlo ore

Or DK on beans

[dry sluice]

I have

For months total

[serene solstice]

you get lucky lads later pretty easy and its pretty common especially on DKs and Bubo when you have high dr

[untold saffron]

Need more DR then🤷‍♂️

[teal lynx]

Get your Drop Rate up then

[vocal ibex]

I got 2 last night from oranges. Been on bubo for alchemy stuff

[dry sluice]

When grinding for em, I'm at like, 10x

[serene solstice]

I droped 2 lucky lads today while afking on beans for some stuff to greenstack

10x dr is compared to what you can get with free to play now pretty low

I have 20x dr on my dk

[dry sluice]

Wait I'll check again, been a sec

[steep zealot]

10x is low? I'm barely getting to 8-9 >.> But i also have like 10 LLs lol

[untold saffron]

The weekly boss star book is a decent place to start getting that up

While it's here

[serene solstice]

you get dr so fast nowdays

[dry sluice]

The spilling trophy one?

[serene solstice]

I get up to 21.4x dr and I have even only 30k plunderous mob kills on SB so I miss some dr from there

[teal lynx]

Just to be 100% sure. Did u filter lucky lads?

[dry sluice]

I don't even think I can

Checked several times

[untold saffron]

I had them filtered before the update

[dry sluice]

So if I did, it's a bug and invisible

[untold saffron]

Now I'm hoarding them on my BB

[short gale]

hellop

[dry sluice]

I didn't think you can filter stiff you ain't got

[untold saffron]

Heyp

[dry sluice]

Yeah you cant

Active is better, no?

[short gale]

you've never dropped an ll? 💀

[untold saffron]

1400 slab slots should of been an equinox task

[dry sluice]

I have like, 400 active hhours

[grand fable]

does V-Man speedrun reset kill count completly?

[desert wyvern]

Is there an advanced sailing guide? Im missing the last 3 artifacts so i sentall my boats to music note island but i feel like after2 days that wasnt a great idea

[dry sluice]

I'll check, have him on some ore for a hot min, grinding xp for godshard release

[teal lynx]

All down to 2 m on Vman

[grand fable]

is that intentional?

[short gale]

it's a coding workaround

[dry sluice]

92

[grand fable]

could you explain that a little more?

[grand karma]

hey lads, whats your kph at gmush rn? was wondering if its worth it to gmush at 10mil or i should wait a bit more

[teal lynx]

In order to have portals closed he takes all kills away. He then gives you 2m kills

[grand fable]

sorry i know very little about coding.

[potent maple]

makes all the kill count zero so the portals are closed

[dry sluice]

Why

[short gale]

🍝

[dry sluice]

Ik 92 is a low asf level for mining, but I suck at this game

[grand fable]

honestly that stings because i was using the lab feature to get most of my money and i had about 2.7 billion green mushroom kills 😢

[burnt sail]

Why would you do gmush on vman

[obtuse rover]

You had 2.7 billion gmush kills on a vman?

[short gale]

LOL

[sick sentinel]

[dry sluice]

OH

He is a DK

[zealous niche]

What

[dry sluice]

I want him to print godshard

[short gale]

That's insane fishsteak, you're goated

[grand fable]

yah, it was mostly sleeping on the job and multikills, and a ton of afk time

[short gale]

biggest drop in kc on record

[zealous niche]

It would have to be implemented first

[dry sluice]

Give lava a fre

Years???

[short gale]

always and forever

[obtuse rover]

My condolences.
It's definitely a hacky way Lava got around his portal issue.

[dry sluice]

I'm gonna go yell at my phone for good dr for like

An hours

[grand fable]

condolences appreciated it just sucks

[potent maple]

i've played a while but i'm not super tryhard and here's my vman

[lusty wedge]

The most inconvenient bit is the millions of kills done on vman for that crystal exp skill, just to be taken away at every speedrun

[void belfry]

Should I go for dragonic cauldron or extra card slots?

[burnt sail]

Cards if you still can't equip 8 cards.

[void belfry]

yeah i dont but dragonic is limited

that indeed

[burnt sail]

Oh right

[obtuse rover]

Lava has very weird code surrounding portals in Idleon.

Every time he adds a new world he decreases the required kills to unlock portals in the old worlds.

But the way he has it coded, it actually deletes recorded kills from your characters. So you can end up losing Death Note skulls or Chow/Zows because of it.

[old portal]

4th liquid is already available when you reach 120

Or maybe he removed it

Are you 120?

[noble mesa]

U need lvl 120

[teal lynx]

Can't access cauldron 4 yet

[old portal]

So you can just upgrade it? Hmm i remember i saw someone has it

[noble mesa]

U can see it ther

[serene solstice]

^^

its not available still who knows when it will be available maybe with w6 maybe not who knows

[noble mesa]

I think w7

[lost depot]

If I don't get Doot I will LITERALLY drink a glass of water

[teal lynx]

Cauldron 3 doesn't have too much uses yet. And one cauldron for 2 Worlds would make sense

[serene solstice]

oh boy don't do it or you die!!!

[lost depot]

it's hydration time

[teal lynx]

Thought it was mostly W5. Can't check rn tho

[grand fable]

also new idea what if instead of splicing all of an afk or none it would just auto splice your filtered items

[teal lynx]

Good idea, but Lava is not able to code that

[old portal]

Dont need much dna atm tho

[obtuse rover]

I want to make an atom out of filtered lucky lads and set it on a podium somewhere to gaze longingly at.

[gusty glade]

Anybody else get the bug where harriep and lab combo no longer shows purple samples for 3d printer? (i verified lab is on and harriep is on, I'm a dirty dooter).

[old portal]

Its becuase of DK orb its just visual bug

[lost depot]

You constantly hear ppl asking about their sample colour being wrong so I bet there's some wonky stuff going on

[woeful knot]

I need help statue farming I’m jealous of the ppl at my point who get 100s of thousands of them while I get 1 per piece https://elfinartist1906.idleonefficiency.com/

[old portal]

Get Dr and choco chip

[lost depot]

There should be a active gameplay chart in tips n tricks

[potent maple]

choco chip is pretty imparative for those crystal statue drops

[woeful knot]

I tried beans it’s slow AF

[gusty glade]

hmm did that and it changed nothing.

[woeful knot]

I’ll never get choco chip for a while

[gusty glade]

IE says I'm still printing where I should be, so I guess we're good

[lost depot]

But yeah you need full drop rate obols in your family chart, choc chip, good crystal spawn chance from cards, stamps and star talent, and a high level DK

[gusty glade]

yes

i did a character select reset and a hard close / open reset

[woeful knot]

Obol farming is pain 💀

[lost depot]

Obol farm is actually easy if you have a vman and a DK, even without choc chip

[gusty glade]

Yeah that didn't fix it either. IE says I'm printing what I was before so i'm thinking it's just a weeeeird bug. Idc what it looks like as long as I'm getting those sweet sweet printer gains!

[lost depot]

It's the inventory managemant that is the true pain

[potent maple]

isn't there one coming up finally?

[lost depot]

Can't you candy pop obols?

[potent maple]

pop obols easier now with ES i think, but yeah i did one-hr candies

took a bit but it was not so painful compared to the benifit

[gusty glade]

ya know what, lemme switch characters.

i keep checking on the same one

[woeful knot]

Yea in Mfing DECEMBER and even then it’ll bug out and not be available

[lost depot]

That's really unlucky, choco chip is essential for farming most statues

There are some statues you can farm in W3 without it though, check this chart https://i.imgur.com/m9Pfeo5.png

[gusty glade]

no fix switching characters

[woeful knot]

I’m going for power statues 9k out of 20k

[pure ember]

December 20thish for choco chip

[gusty glade]

purple color on printer is an 8x multiplier right?

[potent maple]

it honestly might be worth waiting until choco to farm crystal statue drops

[fluid tinsel]

Choco, 2 card doublers and max lvl genie+poop

minimum

[woeful knot]

Sometimes chip repository bugs out for no reason and makes cookie chip unavailable

[lost depot]

Power statues will be a big pain without choc chip, it might be worth waiting until it drops and do something else in the meantime

[pure ember]

Need to buy chips in the slot they appear in beforehand

[potent maple]

i've literally never had this happen to me nor have i heard anyone mention this before

and i have 4

[woeful knot]

Well I HAVE

[potent maple]

i've heard birds are fake and the earth is flat too

so it's probably all true

[lost depot]

What does this mean

[pure ember]

Buy all the chips

[woeful knot]

Well guess I’ll try to get the 1 in 10000000000000000000 chance at cookie chip for gems

[lost depot]

It never happened to me so it doesn't exist

No need to be condescending

[fathom lagoon]

All this talk about choco chip, just rolled the gem shop chips 3 times and got one let’s mf goooooooo

[gusty glade]

does ES drops also affect rare drops (like hampter?)

[paper sail]

I can verify that I've been hit with that bug Thankfully not on an important chip

[gusty glade]

😮

Hampter time

[fathom lagoon]

Damn and I got the star sign doubler

Thank you I’m hyped rn esp for choco

Gonna scoop another in December

[lost depot]

Go get yourself a gorillion statues, king

[gusty glade]

should you farm ES with choco or is that more of a DK thing?

[fluid tinsel]

may as well, why not

[lost depot]

Always have choco if you are active farming

[potent maple]

for the statues that you get with ES, you dont' NEED choco but it doesn't slow you down

[gusty glade]

ty ty

Quick ref for lab chips when lava?

[lost depot]

It will be a gacha pet bonus, mark my words

[gusty glade]

I'm a filthy 💳 warrior so I'd still go for it

[polar light]

At least it'd be in the game then

[gusty glade]

yeah but if he adds it good luck getting past molti on f2p

[pure ember]

Fair but I got every pet except doot and ram for free at some point

Already had them but I still got them

[polar light]

A quick ref for chips?

[gusty glade]

just referring to the molti curse for f2p players. some people have gotten molti pet back to back ^10

[polar light]

Oh yeah that

Molti can screw off

[fallow aurora]

good?

[gusty glade]

I hate beans so much

[fluid tinsel]

I got 7 bored beans in a row once, while I was going for doot

felt horrible

[pure ember]

Not really,

[gusty glade]

isn't it super cool though that when your bait tiers up (from pulling 20 beans in a row) that your cost to roll ALSO goes up! SO COOL

[polar light]

Wait if chips get ref then does that mean there's a chance of chip snapshotting?

[gusty glade]

Snapshotting to me is the same as 360 no-scoping in COD. Too fancy for me

[polar light]

See now I'm interested in that as a bonus

[fallow aurora]

I hope I get something I don't have next week... I got 3 sheepies in a row

[fathom lagoon]

Btw where do I check my crystal mob spawn rate?

Ah so it’s not in game

[pure ember]

Why would it be in game?

[woeful knot]

End my suffering plsss 💀

[polar light]

Bad luck gamble again later pls

[pure ember]

Got to get kil Roy one soon

[woeful knot]

My Luk is -1

[heavy moth]

@signal osprey what you GT at i think yesterday your class exp was a x100

[polar light]

Alchemy issue

[pure ember]

Kil Roy

[woeful knot]

I meant irl

[polar light]

Uhh skill issue?

[gusty glade]

just need more hourly clicks

[fallow aurora]

no, its luk issue

[gusty glade]

set an alarm every hour at night and wake up to click and go back to sleep. cut 30 years off your life

[polar light]

Those are called child checks

Which is now what I'm going to call hourly clicks

[potent maple]

baby needs clicks

[gusty glade]

Oh perfect!

[polar light]

👉👉👉👉
It won't stop crying!

[potent maple]

ooh i will win game now!

[polar light]

Bros in end game now

[gusty glade]

endgame chat is that way 👇

[woeful knot]

#free-gem-contest💎 message I Won’t be winning this one I just know it

[fathom lagoon]

Damn Choco chip fun as hell they just keep spawning

[ashen marsh]

does nobisect help with rift afk kills?

[woeful knot]

Jealous af

[swift wharf]

Nah, you win this one

[fathom lagoon]

December bro you got this

[woeful knot]

Most likely not dude

[woeful knot]

I’ll never happen for me

[old crane]

choco chip comes back in rotation in late dec, currently waiting on that too

[ashen marsh]

what's choco chip requirements?

[crisp silo]

Like 200k pinion spurs

100 cheese and 100 beach spice

[burnt sail]

Why? You have two months to prepare.

[ashen marsh]

damn I havent even unlocked onions spurs

[crisp silo]

Better get to it

Start crafting threads for exp

Buy all anvil points

[ashen marsh]

on all characters?

[crisp silo]

Respec

[swift wharf]

Light work, you eat this

[woeful knot]

Huuh

[sharp igloo]

Should you spend anvil points on max cap or speed?

Damn lol I wasted a lot on cap cause I thought they only auto deposited once a day

[crisp silo]

Speed and exp if needed

[crisp silo]

They do auto depo only once a day

[sharp igloo]

Oh then isnt cap good?

[untold saffron]

Some cap isn't bad

[crisp silo]

Pinions need lvl 30 smth to craft, so if u cant craft that.... start lvling up

[sharp igloo]

I have around 5mil speed and 20mil cap on most of my guys. Is that too much cap?

[crisp silo]

Cap also scales on bag size

So points into cap isnt too bad, but its not too goood either

[sharp igloo]

Once I finish my thread and screw vials I might respec to more speed and less cap then

[ashen marsh]

durp I thought it was a food. lol

yeah I got those lol

[sharp igloo]

Whats the best pet setup for the wurm map?

[gusty glade]

What's your hamma hamma hamma bubble look like? that bubble to me seems like the only way to get those vials.

[bold quiver]

same as the one before

[sharp igloo]

Its only 200, so yeah its been goin slow lol, but I almost have 700mil screws, and then thread will be even faster

[sharp igloo]

I just kinda winged it with the one before, but that team couldnt beat wurms

[gusty glade]

mines at 356 and i'm not even close to having the thread vial! I must be missing something

did you candy any of those screw gains?

[sharp igloo]

No, Ive just been making screws forever lmao

[gusty glade]

ohhhhhhhhhhh gotcha. I'm trying to get to a point where 1 1hr candy maxes out my thread production.

[cyan shuttle]

hello citizens of questions w5 how are you doing today

[sharp igloo]

I also have doot so that would make a difference too if you dont have that

[cyan shuttle]

[heavy moth]

great and you

[rough wasp]

Can you bless me with your BR number

[fathom lagoon]

😂😂

Isn’t pancake like a construction god

[cyan shuttle]

full flex or br on xp mode

[rough wasp]

both

[crisp silo]

Br on no cogs

[gusty glade]

why is divine situational? all stats % that much better than total dmg?

[bold quiver]

what does full flex mean

[cyan shuttle]

br cogs

[signal osprey]

Br directionals

[bold quiver]

💀

[prisma drift]

Does anyone have that cool graphic chart for hourly clickable bubbles that shows the mat for it?

[crisp silo]

It means he can get so much higherr

[fathom lagoon]

Pancake is the 11th divinity

[bold quiver]

how much of an increase do u get with that?

[ashen marsh]

which troll armor is worth crafting?

[fathom lagoon]

All as I believe it’s needed for magma

[sharp igloo]

All of it, since it builds into magma

[ashen marsh]

oooo

[true anchor]

is there a place to candy power statues

[crisp silo]

Might as well active 🅱️eans

[burnt sail]

You mean the first one in the pins?

[fathom lagoon]

🅱️🅱️🅱️eans

[prisma drift]

There’s a smaller version that just has the hourly click bubbles

[true anchor]

yea i have been but want to get these last 1k over with lol

[rough wasp]

I only know one map: beans

[clear quartz]

🅱️owser's 🅱️ig 🅱️ean 🅱️urrito

[burnt sail]

But a lot of things can be hourly clicks if you're good enough...

[rough wasp]

Even my companions have been beans

[fathom lagoon]

I just started my journey I’m at 400 let’s see how long this takes

[prisma drift]

Mob mats

[crisp silo]

🅱️ean is life

[prisma drift]

Precisely why I want the chart specifically for it

[clear quartz]

imagine even luck could be hourly if SB got a giga buffd anvil speed maybe and you wanted to afk claim every 2 mins.... but i bet even then, ouch

actually id have to see how long it takes to cap out on threads

[cyan shuttle]

@bold quiver

[sharp igloo]

Copper, gold, platinum, oak, birch, jungle, toilet paper logs, alien logs, and the logs from the nutto area are all good for hourly clicks

[rough wasp]

Wtf

[bold quiver]

wow. more than 2x cool

[clear quartz]

gurl, are you a beefy construction tab because you be buildin

[pure ember]

You can candy slimes snakes or carrots but it is not worth it at all

All hail the pancake

[cyan shuttle]

and it's still slow to get the 2500 bonus lol

[rough wasp]

What level are ur squires?

[fallow aurora]

is eagle eye critter bonus snapshotted when placing traps?

[cyan shuttle]

in some days you'll see a 1.5k screen

[sharp igloo]

What are your carpenter and bob bubbles at?

[pure ember]

40k bob?

[cyan shuttle]

more than 16k bob and carpenter is kinda useless lol (711)

[true anchor]

what atom upgrades should you do first?

[pure ember]

2nd bubble and skilling bubbles

[rough wasp]

Maybe I should level my Bob more

[fluid tinsel]

Always

[thorn oriole]

im so fucking happy

[cyan shuttle]

well i had above 500 cons lvl before even atom collider

[thorn oriole]

whos the guy that still hasnt gotten it? and this was like my 3rd dayu

[harsh ember]

so uhh
why does it happen and is there a method to remove this

[sharp igloo]

No, you cant candy w5

[cyan shuttle]

(before w5 too)

[harsh ember]

aw :(

[cyan shuttle]

you wait for w6, then w5 will be candyable

[heavy moth]

yea wait for w6 to come out

[harsh ember]

ohhh ok

[ashen marsh]

whenw ill w6 come out?

[sharp igloo]

Probably a few months

[ashen marsh]

😮

[signal osprey]

W6 comes out on your birthday. Its lavas gift for you

[true anchor]

In the collider itself I mean none of my bubbles are in atom range yet

[woeful knot]

Huh

[honest python]

so does slow roast wiz from equinox just keep adding damage infinitely or does it max out?

[sharp igloo]

Put a point into everything you can, but you'll wanna max boron asap

[signal osprey]

It maxes out at 9999 seconds as thats the max time you can be in a boss wave before the next one spawns

[honest python]

interesting

is there a max wave for summon in worsjip?

[sharp igloo]

Does that make the new td meta just a bunch of krakens with one poison guy slowly getting stronger and stronger lol?

[signal osprey]

I believe it goes up to 300 but the highest thats currently reachable on any TD is 200

[woeful knot]

What do you mean

[gusty glade]

wait, what multiplier does a gold star on the printer mean?

[sharp igloo]

Which wave is that?

[woeful knot]

Rabbit god no lab

[gusty glade]

ok so def bugged

[cyan shuttle]

more krakens

[fiery ferry]

is it intended that king doot gives you all the all the gods without having them unlocked?

[sharp igloo]

Yeah, you just need level 2 div on each of your guys

[fiery ferry]

thats insane

[gusty glade]

@unique lagoon I've got a theory as to why my printer icon is bugged, but is still printing the full multiplier's worth of resources.
I only recently started active DK and my orb multiplier was not very good before (like 1.08x or something). I'm thinking #lavacode is structured that if the multiplier rounds up outside of the Lab + rabbit multiplier area (I think 8x right?) then the icon gets bugged.

[woeful knot]

Wish I had one

[gusty glade]

well I also have 1.03 multiplier I can test it.

THATS THE PROBLEM

I'm back to purple samples!!!

Between a 1.03 Artifact sample, and a 1.15x orb sample, if you have both rabbit and lab active it pushes you PAST the regular multiplier "threshold" that the purple icon is looking for and it defaults back down to gold star!

When I re-sampled and lost my 1.03 artifact sample multiplier, it fixed the icon and I'm back to purple!

[brave osprey]

hi @cyan shuttle

[unborn charm]

Is omniphau supposed to boost stuff by 1 hour when I’ve only claimed like 5 mins

[old crane]

it'll say 1 hour but its only 5 mins in that case

[unborn charm]

Ohhh I see thanks

[daring rapids]

Is it normal to spend 2+ months per sailing artifact

[unborn charm]

This doot is really boosting progress

[fathom lagoon]

Just started my attempt on eldritch fury

[obtuse rover]

It's visual rounding. You're actually getting progress for the 5 minutes or whatever, but visually it rounds to the nearest hour.

[fathom lagoon]

Goodluck w yours

[zinc torrent]

Just got my last eldritch today and now I feel a little empty…but happy. sailing is boring now 🥲

[obtuse rover]

Always has been

[undone steeple]

so I need around 22k kattle keys to get the cape, and im supposed to farm like 40/hr on active dk?

[void pulsar]

whats the new trophy starbook do?

[obtuse rover]

It's possible we'll get more artifacts or some new tier (god forbid) in W6, like we get new meals and bubbles.

[undone steeple]

a lot of droprate

[zinc torrent]

Thought about it and maxing my ships, but that sounds even more boring then everything before 🤣

[thorn oriole]

what exactly gives you exp in sailing?

[lament jasper]

Printer gets a little buggy on the ui when activing DK cause the game calculates ur new multiplier every orb kill u do

[dapper prism]

DR breakpoints for money btw:
https://i.imgur.com/D4uPpyW.png

Unless something changed along the way

[sharp igloo]

Why do I print more when I use printer go brr than I do from just waiting an hour? I can click my alien log bubble every time I use printer go brr, but when I wait an hour, I only have like 350mil logs

[zinc torrent]

It usually prints a couple of hours

[obtuse rover]

You're probably printing like >6x what you could normally collect manually because of all the bonuses we have to printer.

[dapper prism]

Because printer go brghh has breakpoints for more and more hours

[sharp igloo]

Oh I thought it always just did 1 hour

[obtuse rover]

Oh, the vman ability, yeah it does multiple hours.

[dapper prism]

It's every 40th talent +1h

1-39 = 1h
40-79 = 2h etc.

Current max is 8h

[zinc torrent]

245 is 6 juicy hours

[dapper prism]

Maybe 9 with the new equinox stuff?

[sharp igloo]

Oh nice

[daring rapids]

oof failed my snail going for +10 on a .8% reset chance lol

[zinc torrent]

Didn’t know you could get it this high

[dapper prism]

the hours or snail? xD

[daring rapids]

hours im assuming

[zinc torrent]

Hours

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/8UwWFL2.png

thats without equinox

+9 with equinox

305, would still be 15 short from 9h

[zinc torrent]

That’s nice, how come you have it this high?

[obtuse rover]

Like why have it maxed out? Why not?

[dapper prism]

Slug companion +25
ES, and probably something else

[dapper prism]

Could have save 16 points and kept it at 280 for now technically

[sick sentinel]

Bear

[dapper prism]

since although the % shows its going up, its apparently a lie and caps at 70%

[obtuse rover]

Yeah but you can have an arbitrarily high number of talent points if need be.

But you're right, we're sadly capped by the 70% chance to reset thing.

[zinc torrent]

Jeez I just realised I have it at 293 too. Didn’t even notice before

[dapper prism]

Talent points become a non-issue over time

but earlier game/worlds, even early w5 it can be nice to focus on actual breakpoints

[barren otter]

wish star talents was a non-issue

[dapper prism]

Like shaman aura in 35's

[paper sail]

Sounds made up to me

[swift spire]

anyone have acorn td setup

[sharp igloo]

There really needs to be a star talent bubble in w6 lol

[nimble yarrow]

After getting Larry to 501 and having most bubbles atomable, which are the main ones I should be working on and to what level until I start on others?

[dapper prism]

Larry 110%

[sharp igloo]

If you already have 90% skilling bubbles, then yeah 1k larryy lol

[dapper prism]

I did Larry 110% before really touching other stuff.
Definitely get 80-90% on skilling bubbles for samples (Purple/Orange)
1k into Bob for more passive XP will help over time.
Then I did Larry 115% (although not fully worth the time vs passive gains over time it's still nice)
Did (close to 2k Bob)
Make sure everything is 90%+ now.
When you get carpenter, get that to something around 450-500ish

[nimble yarrow]

For Skilling bubbles you're talking about the ones that have to do with health and no right?

[clear quartz]

yeah i need to work on bob more soon, kinda going ham into quicc slap until vman can nkruk for now tho

[nimble yarrow]

Mp

[sharp igloo]

Any of the bubbles that effect chopping/mining gains

[dapper prism]

See pins

Wrote the ones that are skills, only left out one is w2 3rd on orange, since it's switched for some damn reason

[nimble yarrow]

Tyvm very helpful

And so I should try and get all of the ones for skills to 80-90%

[heavy moth]

how do you put quest item in the ES spreadsheet

[clear quartz]

i wonder if we will get a second page of superbits

[fluid tinsel]

What do you mean 90%, like 90% of their soft cap?

Alright makes sense

[dapper prism]

I dont even have 90% yet 😦

just about to finish stuff now, but thats after 115% larry/2k bob etc.

https://i.imgur.com/IxzNjvX.png

Bold is still to work on xD

[nimble yarrow]

So is bold the level to aim for?

[obtuse rover]

I don't know what version of which sheet you're using, but you might be able to manually type the drop-odds into a cell somewhere.

[dapper prism]

Top left corner you type 90%, or 85% etc. and then the bubbles are what you should aim for

[nimble yarrow]

Also where is that spreadsheet you just linked from?

[dapper prism]

but yes, big numbers on that pic are 90% for skills (not just bold but all the big numberS) bold was just what i still needed

[heavy moth]

yea probably didnt formulate my question right XD whats the DR of quest item so i can input it in sheet

[obtuse rover]

You'll probably have to use the wiki to find the droprate for the specific item you're interested in from the mob you're fighting, since it varies.

[dreamy igloo]

i got lost in the messages lol does anyone have a good setup for frosty firefight like wave 120+

[obtuse rover]

For example: https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Instablab_Follower

[heavy moth]

oh yea smart ahah

[nimble yarrow]

Where is this alchemy spreadsheet at?

[dapper prism]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[dapper prism]

#1084911530417606656

Alchemy Bubble Gain % Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HgEWk3_7nT6tVsMeSXEiHcKfOD9_5AWeqRD6_ZkqexU/edit#gid=72800316

[obtuse rover]

There's one in the tips n tricks channel, I think.

[nimble yarrow]

Tyvm!!

[heavy moth]

wheres the DR indicate on your exemple

[heavy moth]

damn i gotta use wiki more ahha thanks

[dapper prism]

wiki is good

[sharp igloo]

Warrior bubble 4 is linear, but it caps at 300% right?

[dapper prism]

yes

Not just the bubble

Multi log caps at 300%

meaning if you have star sign, stamps etc, you need less than that

[sharp igloo]

Okay so no point in raising that above 180ish or whatever?

[polar light]

Is there td location images?

[dapper prism]

Somewhat correct, except when NBLB starts hitting it

[dapper prism]

scroll up like 10 messages

[paper sail]

Stinky

[polar light]

You right

[heavy moth]

but quest item doesnt drop like mob mat like MK doesnt affect it i think so its not suppose to be filled the same right

[obtuse rover]

It probably behaves like anything that isn't the main mob drop. So no multikill, correct.

[flint geyser]

my drop rate on vman seems to be stuck at 6.01 anyone know how to get it higher?

[obtuse rover]

I haven't actually paid attention, myself, though.

[sharp igloo]

Is the goal to just have nblb always hitting the ones that cost the most atoms to upgrade?

[heavy moth]

yea cause employement at 17 mil an hour doesnt seems right ahha

[obtuse rover]

Are you saying you're adding new sources of DR and it's still not changing? In that case, you're still below the threshold from your DR lab chips.

[flint geyser]

ok thanks

[paper sail]

Moreso the ones with crappy materials you can't print. Salts, critters, souls, anvil mats, spices

[void pulsar]

which golden foods end up being the best for fighting afk?

[sharp igloo]

But if everything is atomable, then you just aim for the ones that have a high cost?

[dapper prism]

Atoms are irrelevant.. it's about what is too hard to lvl yourself, like salt, anvil mats, traps, souls etc.
Like Carpenter is impossible for you to level

So you want NBLB to hit Carpenter near daily to get it close to ~200 so you can atom it a bit

[paper sail]

Atomable is a fun checkpoint, but you still only get 50 clicks a day

[obtuse rover]

I do like having high numbers on everything though, so I did specifically target getting every bubble to >200 a long time ago.

[pure ember]

Still 120ish lvls a day

[obtuse rover]

Even though some of those bubbles are not helpful and everything is in atomable range

[pure ember]

Got a new best nugget

...... now they have dropped back to 300 per nugget

[lost ledge]

This a captcha?

[dapper prism]

im more confusede why your nuggets are showing like that

[pure ember]

Was bubo farming as well

I.e lag

[obtuse rover]

They'll be back in no time

[paper sail]

I hit my sad nugget upgrade today Only 30% upgrade

[sharp igloo]

Im sayin once everything is atommable though, you're not still collecting mats to level any bubbles without atoms (other than hourly click ones) right? So at that point you just want nblb to hit the more expensive ones

[pure ember]

Looks at lvl 600 carpenter......

[obtuse rover]

Yeah.
Those hourly clicks will also help reduce the number of targets that NBLB might run into.
But when you get to a certain point you won't necessarily care about the daily atom cost as much, if you don't care to min/max any more.

[dapper prism]

Not like you can/should force NBLB into stuff anymore then

[pure ember]

That moment when you never went to min max everything

[obtuse rover]

You probably want to sink your atom uses each day into a directly-valuable bubble, rather than just raising your lowest-level bubbles, once you have a decent atom income and everything is in atom-range.

[sharp igloo]

Okay makes sense

[pure ember]

Such as not increasing sample until divine scarf has been acquired

[paper sail]

😂 Someone was very upset after their dungeon

[hybrid spindle]

that's some lategame problem ^^ I can't even afford to use all of my daily clicks yet

[unborn charm]

if i have doot is there any point doing divinity if goharut is active? shouldn't i just put all my characters in lab?

[flint geyser]

doot gives all the buffs at all times

[unborn charm]

since them being in lab would mean i get gains in both but them being on the altar means i only get gains in the altar?

[flint geyser]

you dont need to unlock the gods if you have doot as long as all your characters are div lvl 2

[gritty sierra]

Which bonus is the one for every level 50 tower you have

I forgot

[paper sail]

Atom collider

[unborn charm]

hmm but when i test it by puting one of my characters in the lab and moving to another character it doesn't show them as gaining any divinity in the UI

[gritty sierra]

Gracias

[paper sail]

Goat characters don't display in the div UI 🙃

[lost ledge]

wouldnt their minor link be non existent?

[unborn charm]

theyll still gain both div and lab xp though?

[flint geyser]

all the buffs all the time

[undone steeple]

hey, is bubbo better than dk for kattle key farming on tremor wurms?

[flint geyser]

they should be active

[sharp igloo]

Just make sure you have at least 1 guy linked to tiger

[lost ledge]

yeah not fully

when you havent levelled minor link

[unborn charm]

lmao i am nowhere near unlocking tiger

nice now to move all my characters into lab for 3 years

[lost ledge]

active but you still need div for minor link bonus

[sharp igloo]

Do you have the grapes of wrath meal?

[granite grove]

obv DK because it has Dr multiplier, unlike bubo which only has respawn (although its superior to DK)

[lost ledge]

I prefer ES even more

[unreal cape]

WHY LOL 😭😭 nooo

[unborn charm]

what is grapes of wrath?

[sharp igloo]

A cooking meal. It raises div xp a lot

[granite grove]

unfortunately ES cant kill them to high score enough to make use of it, DK shines over ES if ES is unable to get 180-200+ score

[unborn charm]

my latest meal is wild boar cos my breeding and spices are lacking ;-; i just unlocked pastpres so i think thatll help

[paper sail]

Fine to have preferences, but ES is absolutely awful at farming W5 keys currently and shouldn't really be brought up.

[lost ledge]

depends on your ES

[granite grove]

at least for tremor wurms or any high Hp mobs, unless if you somehow atom quick slap to like 50k or sth

[lost ledge]

manage to keep killing em till the end of portal

fewer, but still

keys come flying in

[sharp igloo]

How does the nugget equinox thing work? Like does it raise your min nugget each time or your max or both?

[paper sail]

It is a multiplier. You roll your nugget in your normal range, then it multiplies the result. This allows you to break your previous max.

[sharp igloo]

Oh okay cool

[lost ledge]

Fine to have preferences, but shouldnt have brought it up... nice

pick one

[paper sail]

Nobody asked for your preference. They asked if Bubo was better than DK. ES is worse than both, so why bring it up?

Literally unhelpful

[surreal oxide]

howcome for some reason im not getting the atom upgrades on my cauldron. I usually get 30x a day but its been 3 days and i havent been able to upgrade anything. I have more than enough atoms but no attempts?

[lost ledge]

idc if nodody asked.. just sharing my experience

[hybrid spindle]

How many Equinox upgrades you do need in the lab connection range to get the last gem with 6 chars?

[lost ledge]

which I also have with dk

[sharp igloo]

Have you been active the whole time? Lag might have caused your daily reset to not happen

[surreal oxide]

i tried exiting game and even cloud saving

also my daily reset timer has been signifncatly pushed back

even with cloud save

[sharp igloo]

Oh weird, idk then

[paper sail]

k but someone asked "Hey is 5 bigger than 10?" and you responded "I prefer 2 actually"

like ???

[hybrid spindle]

sounds reasonable ^^ Don't you have a favourite number? 👀

[lost ledge]

yeah thats obviously very clearly wrong

[sharp igloo]

2 is actually my favorite number lol

[hybrid spindle]

great! good for you

[lost ledge]

and again, it really depends on YOUR ES/DK/BUBO whatever

[granite grove]

favourite ≠ biggest number, at least in this context

[wheat plaza]

Best way to farm 100,000 statues the quickest? I already did it on my dk so looking to use bubo

[lost ledge]

some underleveled DK wont win

[granite grove]

not that it depends, even with 20% less resource invested relative to best char (whether it be bubo or ES), DK still outperforms by a good margin because of DR multi

[paper sail]

Playing the DK also fixes the potential problem you suggested. Playing the ES doesn't.

[granite grove]

if for skilling method, i heard ppl can farm it by candying dreadlo ores or palm tree (not so sure about this, need confirmation)

[hybrid spindle]

anyone know how many upgrades you need in the lab equinox upgrade to connect to the last crystal?

[surreal oxide]

anyone know why i havent gotten this? Its been a couple days and ive tried restarting and cloud saving etc

[paper sail]

Dreadlo > Starfire >>>> Toilet > Lustre. Don't go to w2 trees.

[hybrid spindle]

Well...it's a damage crystal after all, so I might as well take the equinox damage upgrade instead 🤷‍♂️

[paper sail]

Agreed. A single point in Scims is worth more than the lab jewel ever will be Save it for dead last.

[granite grove]

last crystal from what? most ppl just go with 1 or few upgrades to get both 4 blues and cooking jewel

or if that dmg jewel, ignore since its additive iirc so not that worth

[hybrid spindle]

killroy is dead last. the last 2 upgrades are useless

[granite grove]

tho here i invested 1 point on it so i can get cooking speed while keeping 4 blue for extra gilded build slot

[paper sail]

Undervaluing Pearls imo

[cerulean hemlock]

I find scims helpful

[hybrid spindle]

I need to get to 2000 kills. Before that, I can't afford to upgrade anything but respawn/timer

So it might ultimately be a higher priority than the connection range upgrade but it's still rather useless for at least a few weeks

[sharp igloo]

Don't pearls only work on skills below 30 or 50 or something?

[hybrid spindle]

I assume he's talking about the white ones

[paper sail]

Drops Holy Pearls too, which work forever on class levels.

[hybrid spindle]

The ones that give XP according to your level

[granite grove]

i think they are referring to the white pearl, giving minimum 10% class exp at any level

[sharp igloo]

Oh gotchya

[paper sail]

500 each is also a task, and we're not getting there without pearls 😂

[hybrid spindle]

still, not a priority either ^^ I'm so far away from 5000 class levels that anything short of 10k pearls wouldn't be enough

[granite grove]

mostly funneled to BB and BM

[sharp igloo]

Why? My GT is pretty low and 500 still doesnt take that long

[paper sail]

Sure, but, 2k killroy just gives some minor bar rate.. Not a huge difference either way in how quickly you finish all potential Equinox upgrades

[hybrid spindle]

have you reached 500 on anyone yet?

[sharp igloo]

Yeah

[hybrid spindle]

I assume it's on DK?

[paper sail]

I promise you're not trying on BB/BM/Vman if you think they're fine to 500

[granite grove]

10k gt and still takes quite an amount of time to get lv500

[sharp igloo]

Bubo, dk is pretty close tho

[paper sail]

Not even a contest

[sharp igloo]

Thats fair, havent actived on any of them lately lol. I was basing that off my bubo

[hybrid spindle]

those 3 are the exact problems....considering that I have 4 of them because I have 2 BM, I'll certainly not get there before W6

[paper sail]

Bubo is 2nd easiest

[granite grove]

if lava bothered to rework BM and BB for active play, even just for active exp farm if not for unique gains

[surreal oxide]

anyone have clues on why this isnt proccing its been a few days?

[paper sail]

You didn't buy elite swaps to fix that either time they were in shop recently??

[hybrid spindle]

I have 3 but I'm torn whether or not to use them

as a matter of fact, I also have 2 bubos ^^

[granite grove]

2 BB i could understand, but 2 BM absolutely no justifable reason for it unless humilation fetish

[paper sail]

I used to have 2 Bubo as well. Used to.

[hybrid spindle]

Alright, I'll change them ^^

[pure ember]

? Wdym

[hybrid spindle]

Anything I should do before that? Or anything I can take advantage of when I'm already prepared to change a subclass?

[surreal oxide]

i just dont get the chances to upgrade my bubbles with atoms, and its been a few days since ive been able to

i tried cloud saving and restarting game. i active 24/7 on bubo via steam

[old crane]

Hmm I wonder if logging out/relogin would help that?

Beyond just cloudsave

[surreal oxide]

ive also been crashing alot on bubo, but never have that issue with active DK

i notice and fix the crash like 2-4x a day

[sick sentinel]

Book and level the vial talent on tab 3 and level its corresponding talent on tab 1 for sure. Can also pre-level your future swap bubo since ES is a bit of a pain

[paper sail]

Do you have any extra skills on your attack bar?

Well there goes 2k. Too easy

[surreal oxide]

i run this except i sweap #3 and #4

[hybrid spindle]

👀 Why in the world is the vial talent important? It just gives some bad scaling for the crit chance/dmg talent?

[granite grove]

you dont have any other talents (excluding special tabs or logs on logs) on the bar, right?

[sick sentinel]

Its free and you cant do it on the other class? Lol

[granite grove]

better get free dmg because why not

[surreal oxide]

no

[granite grove]

after swapping you dont have the chance anymore

[hybrid spindle]

I see ^^

[paper sail]

I wouldn't bother with the vial talent for BM -> SB honestly. It is purely crit chance which means nothing these days

[hybrid spindle]

How does it work then, I level it and then what?

The max level will stay even if I reset my points?

[thorn oriole]

My gaming is stagnant at like 10bil green bits per harvest

How tf do I break free

[paper sail]

I'm gonna say 1 point into Killroy Pearls is worth it. 1 point into the Dungeon drops is a huge joke lol

[hybrid spindle]

is pearls the 2nd to last upgrade or last?

[paper sail]

Pearls is last

[hybrid spindle]

eh...one more upgrade :/

[paper sail]

Across my 2 runs, I picked up maybe 140 flurbo, 250 dungeon credits, 6 holy pearl, 3 black pearl, 1 divinity pearl

6 holy pearls is basically an extra 60 skulls found, or 1/3 increase in my total skulls That's dope for 1 invested point

[hybrid spindle]

Do SB talents about sailing mess with each other if I leveled them on both SBs or does it simply take the highest?

[paper sail]

Any account-wide talents should take whichever is highest if you level it on multiple characters

[mortal compass]

At this rate I'll get doot before I'll get baba yaga eggs....

[paper sail]

And that's how I got 500 on Vman, your honor

[hybrid spindle]

why is your vman wearing fishing rings? 👀

[paper sail]

...because they're fishing?

[hybrid spindle]

why no other fishing gear then?

[paper sail]

Because efficiency doesn't change exp (after 100% required eff, of course). Depth does.

[hybrid spindle]

👀

I knew that

Definitely

Yes, I get that eff after 100% is useless but I didn't know that depth had an effect on that

Very interesting

[paper sail]

Sure. Red and purple fish give more exp than green does. Increasing other depths takes away from green.

ayo

[pure ember]

Wrong talent, they are talking about #6 and you are talking about #10

[lost ledge]

flex some more

[pure ember]

It's dmg per green vial

[hybrid spindle]

wait....that works? It would keep the levels in that talent despite not even having that talent anymore?

[paper sail]

It does not lol

They were indeed talking about talent #10.

[pure ember]

Ah?

[hybrid spindle]

i figured as much otherwise the part about tab 1 would have made no sense

[pure ember]

Give me a sec

[paper sail]

Flask would have been the better word for that talent, not vial

[pure ember]

..... didn't have full info before giving advice got it

[lost ledge]

at least I got a 92

DR is life

[signal osprey]

Just max all your talents and then the specifics don't matter

[paper sail]

Only time I'd worry about the Flasks trick is ES -> Bubo or DK -> BB, but we usually see the other way around

[dapper prism]

Calling me?

[hybrid spindle]

where do you guys farm necklaces? kruk normal, chaotic, or nightmare?

[dapper prism]

😉

[woeful knot]

We get 🍪 on dec and mid feb

[dapper prism]

All nightmare for the cape quest for trophy

[lost ledge]

Imagine getting cape without quest active yet..

☝️

[paper sail]

Trophy is super important. I'd say all in on Nightmare until you have all (or enough to satisfy your needs), then cards up to 4*, then finally Normal for gem + necks

[lapis mesa]

Unlimited Bubo POWAH

[green eagle]

One level behind you

[lapis mesa]

its a good feeling, ive almost doubled my cauldron levels -_-

[ruby yarrow]

Thats right, now I have 20k

[autumn wasp]

Has anyone encountered this bug where statues are different leveled on different characters, and when you click on the statue man all the levels go up?
https://harryfootlong.idleonefficiency.com/players

[wanton kernel]

are citringes or tremor worms better for cranium cooking?

[obtuse rover]

I assume you just need to log into the characters to register new levels?

[autumn wasp]

Statues level up when you check
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[lapis mesa]

worms if you can 1 shot, citringe if you cant

[wanton kernel]

tyty

[autumn wasp]

Ive already done that multiple times, i even redid all my samples

[true obsidian]

Skill issue...

[ruby yarrow]

How many kph to start grinding all of those millions kills for Vman?

[pure ember]

Should get that citringe wave up

[true obsidian]

why you need to have millions kill with vman?

[pure ember]

Got 110 with lower kraken/poison lvl

[ruby yarrow]

Im asking for the quest

[pure ember]

Gmush

And Plat skulls w1 to w3 iirc?

[true obsidian]

i thought for gmush archer class are bis

[pure ember]

Vman questline

[paper sail]

They're asking for the quest to become Vman

[ruby yarrow]

A million kills on each

[true obsidian]

oh...

[paper sail]

100k is what I'd say, that's 10hrs per

[ruby yarrow]

Hmm

Also should I wait for nobisect

[true obsidian]

account wide..

[paper sail]

But Vman is super important for several buffs to your account, so could be worth it at less. Also note for the W1-W3 kills, you can do those on any character.

[true obsidian]

so just use archer

ah wait...the gmush one

right...

[paper sail]

The next step of the quest for 12m Gmush is specifically on that Mman only though.

[true obsidian]

use candy anyway

[paper sail]

Yep

[ruby yarrow]

Archer is the best Kph class?

[true obsidian]

pretty much yes

[ruby yarrow]

Is it because of speed

[paper sail]

ES will give SB a run for their money. BM is poopoo

[ruby yarrow]

Also I don’t know what I’m doing so I don’t have any archer elite, I treat my archers like shit

[paper sail]

Specifically the damage scaling they get from SpeeDNA talent in Bowman that scales off the movement speed, yes

[ruby yarrow]

I should probably do that right now

[true obsidian]

well...they really like shit, their achievement can't be done...

[paper sail]

Several people have completed that. It CAN be done, just takes a very long time for meh rewards.

[true obsidian]

A VERY VERY LONG TIME

[ruby yarrow]

I have 0

[paper sail]

It is only like a month or something now?

[ruby yarrow]

Also I should get the pirate first and not beast master

[true obsidian]

does this doable now?

[ruby yarrow]

I know i should get the 2

[true obsidian]

BM first, for trapping skill

[paper sail]

Rough calculation is 2 months, nvm. I've heard 700/hr thrown around as good Plunders/hr

[ruby yarrow]

Seriously?

[true obsidian]

yes...later you will need a lot materials from trapping

[paper sail]

Eh. You're probably already capped on attack speed without realizing it.

[true obsidian]

for salt

[ruby yarrow]

I see

But if I want to get those kph, pirate is the best?

[paper sail]

13, I think?

[true obsidian]

also for flexing...which i can't xD

[ruby yarrow]

[paper sail]

You are forgetting the alch bubble, surely. This is an older chart, needs to be updated with the faster weapons

[ruby yarrow]

So is it

[true obsidian]

this i really don't know, somehow i mess up my archer bc my BM have the highest kph, not SB

[paper sail]

Oh right, the meal too

[ruby yarrow]

So SB is supposed to have more

[true obsidian]

yes

bc SB have more dmg than BM

[pure ember]

Yes......troller possible the multikill talent? #7/#8?

[paper sail]

Between these two buffs, getting 80% bonus attack speed to cap a base 9 speed weapon is ezpz

[reef kernel]

Can someone with names that start with letter "P" and "S" tell my character "1 star, game sucks!", please? I am in Lava 13 server world two town 😄

[true obsidian]

trash gear vs bis gear now...you can see SB way too far above BM

[pure ember]

Party finder channel

[ruby yarrow]

That’s a lot of damage

[true obsidian]

as long as the dmg not in purple, it's smol

[paper sail]

And it just keeps going up

[ruby yarrow]

It’s big for me anyways

[pure ember]

Tritwo let's BM somewhat catch up in dmg, and the KpK per 1k agility adds..... 58% more

[paper sail]

Your SB and BM should have relatively the same amount of agility, meaning those should scale exactly the same

KPK still sucks ass though

[pure ember]

Difference is near 2k

Not KPK bubble

Talent

[paper sail]

Do you think the KPK bubble is somehow different than the KPK talent?

They both just give kpk... which is crap.

[pure ember]

One scales better..... but both are meh in priority

[clear quartz]

is neon fairly crap to invest into? i still havent unlocked that one, just now thinking about it

[paper sail]

There is nothing that inherently gives the BM more AGI than SB though. Any difference is manufactured from gear, obols, star signs, cards, or talent choices 🤷

[sick sentinel]

If thats the dmg one then yeah its not good

[ruby yarrow]

What’s the best way to get more kph, mine somehow doubled in a day and I don’t know why😭

[solid lantern]

truely end game now

[sick sentinel]

Damn more endgame than me

[clear quartz]

wasnt sure if the atom cost reduction thing was necessary for the powers of storage items to get leveled since the costs for that one look pretty insane

probably still finish off boron and ig start working on pushing the void plate one to completion

[ruby yarrow]

What does it do when I let someone cook in the kitchen

Except ladles and levels

[true obsidian]

i remember there is a guy already have lv 2 before chizoar boss...

[naive zodiac]

ladles and levels i think

[solid lantern]

nothing else, if you level up the star tallent you can get more cash per mk %

to be fair, you've been able to buy them since day 1 😂

[paper sail]

Ladles are 99.999% of your cooking progress though

[solid lantern]

just waiting for the day lava removes shop buy limits

[clear quartz]

100k ladles obtained entirely via gemshop when

[ruby yarrow]

Able to sample gems when

[solid lantern]

finally can get rid of this fucking shit

was actually so painful with only 16 slots

[paper sail]

I get ~2800 ladles per day if no double ladle proc. At level 269 talent level, BB gets 1.7708x ladle time = 4,958 extra hours per day = nearly 207 days per day.. plus the 1 real day that happened 🤣 I slightly exaggerated. Ladle = 99.519% progress, real day passing = 0.4% progress.

[solid lantern]

[clear quartz]

dang, chems was the wall?

[burnt sail]

Wait why do you only have 16 slots

[dapper prism]

gemshop be pricey

[burnt sail]

Oh was that gems, I thought it was fertilizer for some reason... it has been so long

[solid lantern]

Nah it was level 2 bob and 100k ladel

[ruby yarrow]

Trickz, I didn’t make any progress since last time

[solid lantern]

Ah shit, I forgot to include my purple bits in the gaming

🤣

[woeful knot]

Someone 📌 dis

Super chows can only be done on 2nd BB 📌

[solid lantern]

Huh?

[hybrid spindle]

for the non-doot owners, what kind of a god setup do you guys have?

[burnt sail]

Doot

[paper sail]

It is technically platform dependent. Steam counts your LAST BB, mobile counts your FIRST BB.

[ruby yarrow]

Dootitus Maximus

[woeful knot]

All bear 2 diff

[autumn wasp]

5 bear 1 cat, and nobi on everything else

[solid lantern]

Pray to real life Jesus via Christianity for money and buy spins 🤣

[clear quartz]

wood shroom map i guess sucks for killroy, didnt even break 1k with bubo 😦

[woeful knot]

iOS

[solid lantern]

Else high key, 1 tiger, rest bear to fill up lab

And can split between snake and Nobu for your death note char

Or pushing chars

[ruby yarrow]

Is ES still good to get 1M kills on each monsters from w1 to w3

[paper sail]

and character activity for context

[solid lantern]

BB would be better tbh since you're doing it anyway

Es is more for drops rather then kills

[ruby yarrow]

I’ll name my next character Scoli_1 if that’s okay

[autumn wasp]

why do you have bm on gmush and SB in lab

[ruby yarrow]

It’s still my most kph character

[paper sail]

10's bug prints are more important to me than 6's monster prints (or the slightly extra gmush kills)

[solid lantern]

I mean yeah if you want to rush, but if it isn't that much significantly higher then BB just do bb

[autumn wasp]

i thought people printed bugs on BM too

[ruby yarrow]

BB is better than SB?

[paper sail]

After finishing Vials, sure. I'm not finished yet.

[solid lantern]

dont think so, but Blood zerk has skills at 100k monster kc and 1m

which is really important for cooking 🤷‍♂️

[paper sail]

Soon, though.

[solid lantern]

almost makes it not worth doing cooking until you have it

and well, cooking is a massive upgrade account wide

[autumn wasp]

whats considered "finished"?

[paper sail]

Having no more monster mats to print for vials means my BM is finished printing monster mats for vials

[clear quartz]

no lvl 13 pickle, still have work to do

[autumn wasp]

ah i see

[paper sail]

Suggma Ashes are my final printable monster vial to complete. After that, they'll go to Refinery upkeep duty, or try bugs/logs/ores for some pathetic gains

[ruby yarrow]

So should I get him out of divinity and get him kills?

[clear quartz]

im probably gonna finish suggma from activing here tbh lol

[paper sail]

I'm near enough to consider going active ES but then I have to resample when I finish so

[ruby yarrow]

Is it okay tho?

[paper sail]

It is rude and you don't have my blessing, but I can't stop you 🤷

[clear quartz]

well maybe not, only 237m so far, but not like this recipe will ever drop

[ruby yarrow]

What would you do if I name it Scoli_11

[paper sail]

Move on with my life

[solid lantern]

gonna be honest

[ruby yarrow]

What would you name your next char if 11th is out

[solid lantern]

I forgot you can sample monster prints

on non vman 😂

was thinking fuck, i need to active es again

[ruby yarrow]

Im not going to do it for real

I was joking

[bright current]