lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[signal osprey]

Instead of that you could put 1 point in food lust which will save hundreds or even thousands of ladles per day

[fading cape]

I wouldn't expect a midgamer to get it. 😛

[cerulean hemlock]

Tbh I'm siding with contract here

[signal osprey]

And 1 point in scimitar which is 10% damage multi

[cerulean hemlock]

Very huge

[signal osprey]

2 points for significantly bigger bonus than 8 points in the lab fuse

Its objectively the worst part of the entire update regardless of doot

[fading cape]

I want to be clear for the sake of the conversation that I never said to prioritize it over anything. And it's literally only 1 upgrade. It's really not this big a deal

[tacit tulip]

I put 1 point into lab because I'm lazy and don't wanna have to move that guy once a day

😄

[signal osprey]

Except for very niche early game cases where you cant even connect your lab and dont want to wait for the orange jewel

But even then its dubious

[fading cape]

You are going to hit the end of all of the eq time gated upgrades before you get all bubbles. (Most midgamers). So big whoop on one bar

[short gale]

Can you please share your lab layout ElJay?

[cerulean hemlock]

Mhmm

[paper sail]

Aww yiss, Luckier Lad is bumping my Bubo up to 21x DR for money monies

[green eagle]

my bar is full again, trying to think of what i should upgrade... was thinking that fusing tube thing on the top right looks pretty cool

[short gale]

YESSS

[paper sail]

1 point into it is worthwhile imo

[sick sentinel]

drop rate

[signal osprey]

Yeah definitely max that first and then do full damage

DR is overrated

[sick sentinel]

u right

i'll get rid of all mine

[fading cape]

Doesn't do anything anyway

[short gale]

thanks, that's what i have as well.

[green eagle]

no (i'm doing all the liquid one first, then onto the DR)

[tacit tulip]

equinox is boring soon

[sonic radish]

slowly we climb

[sick sentinel]

high

and always higher

[green eagle]

lava is always stuck with not wanting to make his challenges impossible for newer players, and not too easy that everyone blows through the new content in a day (which happened, again ). imo he should've made equinox a later world (like 5+) content thing and increased rewards/difficulty of challenges

[signal osprey]

Equinox was boring as soon as I saw that I had to leveling that fucking pickle

Glad I get to wait 3 months for the last 5 DR levels

Because thats cool

[green eagle]

AND THE PICKLE VIAL DOESN'T INTERACT WITH FRACTAL ISLAND STILL 😡

[sick sentinel]

i wish i kept up with daily buys

[viral snow]

Next companion boosts shop stock by 10x

[signal osprey]

Like why lock actual bonuses behind that shit

[paper sail]

for the memes

[signal osprey]

Make that one just more equinox bar rate or something

[urban pond]

been farming those red potions few hours, seems kinda low am i doing something wrong?

[sonic radish]

as someone whom did it for the meme i will keep going

[green eagle]

if i kept up with daily buys on pickle i'd be over half way to vial level 3 by now. just an annoying mechanic. i thought he'd learnt not to have daily purchase of certain 1/day items when he made the silver eye item stuff

[paper sail]

I'm buying out shops every day anyway 🤷

[short gale]

it takes 3 seconds to buy the pickle a day. why is that too hard

[daring ravine]

im sure theres gonna be a questin w6-w7 that includes you having level 3 joe

[paper sail]

Your drop rate is horrendous for that level of damage O.o

[unkempt quest]

Don't give him any ideas

[daring ravine]

forgor 💀

[proven phoenix]

In BobJoePickle we trust

[urban pond]

should i pump up dr? i think i can get to 20.

but im using those cards

[paper sail]

Oh god why

[short gale]

lol

[paper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334323

[signal osprey]

Multikill is useless for potion and NM amarok is useless for everything

[sonic radish]

my buddy was always like "why do you even bother buying that every day it does nothing??" now look who has the power lmao

[urban pond]

been asking for a while and got anwsers like pump up dmg and mk

[short gale]

would only help for the main drop

[urban pond]

ohh, thanks

[sick sentinel]

those pots arent from crystal mobs so its an es item

[urban pond]

so i should get high dr on es

with dr prayer or not?

[sick sentinel]

no prayer

the hp bad

[urban pond]

or is it better to farm red pots on frogs with dk

[gentle furnace]

That is only if the crystal mobs also drops them

[short gale]

those average red pots are exclusive to gigafrogs iir

[paper sail]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1097854304469127288 - there is a spreadsheet you can use to compare Damage and DR setups on your ES to see which is expected better outcome

[short gale]

"play web instead of steam version" - docLeave

[sick sentinel]

they are doing the red pots on the frogs card

[paper sail]

They're asking about this Average Life Potion. Not a mana potion.

[short gale]

jiggafrog

[left cloak]

Did I F up by leveling the portal pushing prayer?

[autumn wasp]

anyone know the lowest possible time achievable for a single book?

[paper sail]

What are you calling the portal pushing prayer?

[sick sentinel]

fibers of absence? its fine to use if you dont have mk/doesnt take you down an mk tier

otherwise dont use it

[left cloak]

The +X% kills for DN/Poral -Y% dmg

[paper sail]

The shitty KPK prayer, got it. Follow circ's wisdom.

[left cloak]

Ok dope, trying to push to tremor worms for bubo

[sick sentinel]

but also if you dont have mk you shouldnt be pushing

rather build up your account

[fallen torrent]

ugh lv 32 trophy book 😦

[left cloak]

Kind of a catch 22 lol, I guess just park at OJ bay until I have the damage?

[gentle furnace]

Thats my highest after buying 6 books

[fallen torrent]

second book was 32

[short gale]

ok ok i'll stop complaining about my lvl 92 book

[noble mesa]

I buy 4 and max is 52...

[sick sentinel]

in the end do what you want, but you dont rly get much by reaching wurms other than a vial because you likely wont be able to properly farm them

[short gale]

kruk keys

[sick sentinel]

some ideas for backtracking

[sick sentinel]

you can get those before as well... and also goes back to me saying they likely cant properly farm them

[paper sail]

Trickz made that, yeah?

[sick sentinel]

yeah

[short gale]

wtf is with the skill level suggestion

[sick sentinel]

expectations of a rushers account

[paper sail]

I'm thinking of reviving BigMac's IE Review bot, but I was thinking more as a checklist / task suggester rather than comparing against other players

[noble mesa]

Yea , its wiird

[noble mesa]

I sey lvl60~

[urban pond]

we ballin

[short gale]

yeah just take the 10 extra candy hours to push for dreadlo and then call it a day

[worthy steeple]

is there a calculator that can get me 777 bits?

[paper sail]

For someone that JUST walked into w5, level60 is pretty high

[noble mesa]

So 30~

[short gale]

for someone whos out of w2, lvl 15 is pretty low

[sick sentinel]

this graphic was also made with super rushers in mind...

[paper sail]

Yeah

[noble mesa]

Go for the highest u can in a normal time , put the best gear

[sick sentinel]

pretty generous to think those players have lvl 15 in off skills

[noble mesa]

Its a lot of ez stats

[paper sail]

Hence why it is suggested, yes

Just a baseline, not a "never go above 15"

[autumn wasp]

i thought depositing statues would give a lot more

[urban pond]

where i should dump my atoms when i ve got all bubbles around 90%

[paper sail]

Call Me Bob is always good

[sick sentinel]

time for 95%

[urban pond]

what about those lovely swords?

[paper sail]

What do you need damage for?

[glad cedar]

Damn u slow as hell where your speed potions at

[urban pond]

good question

[sick sentinel]

quickslap sure, the mage one u can click every now and then with prints when u remember, warrior one garbage

[paper sail]

Damage only is also the most boring thing to target

[glad cedar]

Big number big fun tho

[lapis mesa]

guess my next target is the stupid snail atom, which means prints.. absolutely no progress for gaming for a few weeks with my reset

[short gale]

sadge

reset to 15 or 10?

[lapis mesa]

0

[dawn moon]

do normal stats, tools, foods, special equipments affect anything when doing a dungeon, or is it just the stuff in the credit shop and the equipment drops I get in the dungeon?

[sick sentinel]

yeah on mobile pens are slightly easier to do if that is an option for you

[short gale]

there's no keyboard shortcut. you can try resizing the window to make the distance much smaller

[urban pond]

any other good bubbles to dump points in beside quickslap and call me bob?

[paper sail]

Probably one of the most suggested things, sadly

[prisma drift]

Mobile version OP for pens

[pine yacht]

ofc I got another LL on Vman right after I used about a month of candy for the first one ...

[prisma drift]

I can do orders like lightning

[urban pond]

u at?

[gentle furnace]

My lil bro clicks faster

[prisma drift]

Doubt

[gentle furnace]

And he doesnt get tired

[prisma drift]

I don’t get tired either

I just cry in my sleep

[gentle furnace]

Can you do PO for 6 hours straight lol

[pine yacht]

the legal auto clicker

[prisma drift]

Dang stop giving lil bro the adderall

[pine yacht]

imma make a job add for it paying like 5 bucks for every 10k pens

[dapper prism]

2nd Luckier Lad 🥳
https://i.imgur.com/PlkHUOb.png

[prisma drift]

2/75ths to luckiest lad

[pine yacht]

I have like... 5, and even those annoy me to no end

LL not LierL

[hybrid cradle]

do i gamba with the cheap or grind for the expensive?

[chrome tiger]

Is that trophy even better than the kruck one

[dapper prism]

Typically always left until you see 100% on the right, then go for 100%

[prisma drift]

More DR no dmg

[drifting breach]

Best way to get 20k base damage statues

[dapper prism]

Check Pins

[drifting breach]

Where is that

[left spoke]

What's the best char to solo W3 dungeon ?

[drifting breach]

Any

[dapper prism]

Mobile or PC?

[drifting breach]

Mobile

[dapper prism]

Swipe into a direction, think from right to left. looks like

[eternal mantle]

do minor link bonuses have a cap

[left spoke]

To solo W3 3rd boss

[noble mesa]

How u go from pc to frimpof?

[left spoke]

Like the highest dps

[dapper prism]

That's a very good question
I typed Discord but my fingers seemed wernt really lined up to the keyboard well

[timid trellis]

I used Divine Knight for all my dungeon solos

[left spoke]

Thanks I'll try, Vman wasn't enough

[short gale]

yes

[eternal mantle]

what divinity lvl?

[noble mesa]

U need beter aye -finger conection

[dapper prism]

Doesnt really matter, just make sure you reenter until you get a Horn

[dapper prism]

I just woke up 😦

[short gale]

Divinity_Level / (60 + Divinity_Level) * Big_P_Bubble(min 1) * (God's_Max_Passive)

[left spoke]

What does it mean ?

[noble mesa]

SAME SAME SAME

[left spoke]

Oh the Horn drop from entering

[dapper prism]

Horn of the Foal orange item

[gentle furnace]

D3 doable with rng voucher too

[left spoke]

Thanks I'll do that !

[hybrid cradle]

Just to check,
Lustre armor is just for slab
But lustre weapons are necessary for progression?

[rapid python]

what armor should be used instead of lustre

[hybrid cradle]

Well then, time for me to get the BB from cookin' to fishin'

[dapper prism]

No they don't really have a cap, but it just slows down hard af and isnt worth going for.
You'd want Big P bubble around 540 and then divinity level 130ish.

[eternal mantle]

okay all my guys are level 120-130

and I didn't know if I should push it further

need to upgrade big p tho

[dapper prism]

Dementia into Void into Chizoar. While start of W5.

Time gated on salts until you get:
Troll into Magma, then into Divine (kattle) however some divine parts are situational

[devout turtle]

I can’t get this new stuff to show up

[left spoke]

You need the bottom right to start with legendary item ?

[left spoke]

(better with the screen)

[dapper prism]

Because it clearly doesnt exist

[devout turtle]

That bs because is says it’s available

[pure ember]

Coin flip, steam rng item

[noble mesa]

U need to unlock them

[dapper prism]

Every UI has stuff like that already pre coded/shown.. Same as Gaming etc.

[devout turtle]

That’s what I’m trying to dooo

[pure ember]

Get it when entering w4 iirc

[dapper prism]

All you needed which you have is the R40 left. Although R50 just helps with a 2nd chance at it

Drops a purple coin, has a chance to get horn:
https://i.imgur.com/tMgn0fO.png

If you dont get horn but 4 grey items, you could just leave and reenter

[pure ember]

Don't need it but it makes it way easier

[short gale]

i don't think my dungeon stats would let me finish the dungeon w/o horn

[pure ember]

....rng item 2-3 and you can clear all dungeons

You can chip lazio card as well....

[paper sail]

There are no "unlocks" for the w5 anvil tab yet. The recipes you're missing are dropped by W5 monsters. Click the actual ? in the anvil tab to see the source.

[devout turtle]

Wtf lava needs to step up the game my wizard world 4 wand and is at the end of world 5 with ease

[short gale]

My wizard made it to the end with boxing gloves. I fail to see a problem.

[tacit tulip]

Welcome to "gear is largely meaningless"

Alchemy is all

[left spoke]

I went trough W5 with amarok armor

Armor is way more important than weapon for damage

And Alchemy is even more important

[rapid locust]

where do these come from? I dont see them on the map anywhere

[unborn charm]

does anyone know where i can find divine knight, elemental sorcerer and siege breaker builds?

[left spoke]

Island, rare drop (one of the first one)

[paper sail]

They are the rare version of a resource. Look at your loot pile. Regular loot is on the left, rare is on the right.

[azure spindle]

each island has a regular and rare resource you can get, that one specifically should be the first island rare drop

[paper sail]

Make attack speed matter again

[rapid locust]

Ahh ok tyvm! I thought I was going crazy and messed something up

[naive shard]

Anyone have the salt level caps to run indefinitely?

[dapper prism]

w4 pins

[chilly mortar]

how does polytheism work? is 1 point for god 1 or is 0 points for god 1?

[dapper prism]

check pins or
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1081405137207169115/Idleon_Polytheism_GuideV2.png?ex=6545ae84&is=65333984&hm=0ea45e45a0d0d5923467437b6b6eaf9498f7479af3ac087085db502a1937f63f&

[jagged gate]

it tells you when you click it what god your points align to

[paper sail]

0 is considered no investment - You need to to invest 10 to get Snake

[chilly mortar]

oh cool!

[chilly mortar]

i have 0 points but it still says snehebatu

[paper sail]

That is wrong. You aren't linked to Snake until 10, 20, 30, etc. 0 gets you nothing.

[green eagle]

finally

[dapper prism]

Gz! remember to split kitchen meals

[paper sail]

Yolo it all on Double Cherry

[short gale]

turkey ! ! !

hope u feel better soon scoli

[paper sail]

I will, when thoughts of your horrible suggestion fade from memory

[green eagle]

this is what i did. may not be optimal, but i got some good speed gains

[left spoke]

Can't kill him even with the horn

[chilly mortar]

is this wrong then?

[dapper prism]

from the looks of it you didnt do many missions..

[short gale]

bump up your weap to next tier

[obsidian nacelle]

so infinite starsigns makes whatever the bonus for the star passive right? so when it does become infinite i dont need to be aligned to it anymore?

[left spoke]

I did every mission I could

[short gale]

your crit chance looks garbo too

[left spoke]

But more mobs and move speed looks useless

[dapper prism]

Chip doubler starsigns only work on equipped ones

[left spoke]

63%

[paper sail]

The weapon is likely the issue. You're at least 9 ranks off max weapon, up to 14.

[dapper prism]

more mobs early on would have literally made half the quests easier?

[obsidian nacelle]

oh, okay. but outside of chip doubler, dont need to be aligned (?)

[viral snow]

Thats atleast 137 too low

[left spoke]

So it's a currency issue

[dapper prism]

If its an infinite one, nope. But still worth setting up for when/if you get the chips

Same as how i will always say to setup the cards in the proper order even if you dont own card doublers.
Way easier to do it correctly now then to have to go through 10 alts and several card sets and adjust it all for when you do get them

[paper sail]

Make sure the 6 non-doubled cards are in a random order though, to grind Trickz's gears

[rich epoch]

what is the best way to farm hampter? just have a fuckton of Dr and throw your es on it? rn my damage is kinda ass if I have the Dr cards on so I barely get the portal to 100

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/grinds-my-gears-peter-griffin-seth-mc-farlane-family-guy-gif-5207367

[obsidian nacelle]

what about the ones with a negative like The Forsaken [ -80% total HP, -50% def, +6% fight afk]

[dapper prism]

The point of infinite starsigns is that you only get the benefit, not the negative

[rich epoch]

Ty. I wanted a single red mat bag for my es to farm stuff without checking it all the time but I have only 40 rn and the rest is gonna take forever

[autumn wasp]

afk characters also give some overnight

[polar light]

What if I want the negatives

[chilly mortar]

can i link to gods i dont have with polytheism?

[rich epoch]

oh yeah. I'll leave some ass characters on it and then swap the Dr obols I'm before checking. ty

[obsidian nacelle]

great to finally know this. i got some infinites of stars i havent unlocked tho- they still count?

[dapper prism]

REMINDER:
Buy Pickle, eye and the Bags! Buy W5 Stones and oil. Buy Whetstone!
Check Equinox, Check Shiny pets. Claim your daily keys/colo tickets

[paper sail]

You still buy w5 stones?

[dapper prism]

Yeh, if you make 2+ full sets for everyone you kinda run out

[paper sail]

Do I?

[dapper prism]

Probably not if you played for a year longer 😉

[paper sail]

😂

[paper sail]

tl;dr look at IT dashboard

[short gale]

i wanna see pics of a perfectly kruk stoned kruk gear piece

[rich epoch]

whetstone? why?

I've been buying all the rest but not the whetstone

[dapper prism]

Capped at 1/day and if you ever wantt o push xp hard, you can respec anvil to pure xp, level it a ton with coldseeker bullets, then respec back

Also, Warning. If you hold your full stack of whetstones it consumes them all 😦

[rich epoch]

I see.

nice trick

[dapper prism]

It's a great thing to do if you arnt like lvl 100s+ all alts

[paper sail]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news.. The exp bonus with anvil points is for Production (thread) only

but I still buy anyway

[rich epoch]

welp

[short gale]

trickz in shambles

[dapper prism]

That sounds like a big rip then, although i was very sure i was getting a lot more xp with it than without. Then again, Placebo 😦

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/troy-community-room-fire-pizza-gif-5612111

This is how i feel rn finding out about that 😦

[paper sail]

Here, I'll test for you

[dapper prism]

Dont be afraid, take out your whole stack of whestones for ruining my dreams

[left spoke]

Thanks for your help guys, I killed W3 dungeon's Boss

[paper sail]

Same exp for crafting a coldseeker with 2.5k and 6.6k%

[dapper prism]

Scoli, i love and hate you for this 😦

[paper sail]

I'm just passing it on. Rashaken ruined it for me the other day

[dapper prism]

lol, so you just found out too? xD

Either way, worth hoarding whestone. Future updates/releases etc. You never know, guess we can dream

[paper sail]

Yup

[rich epoch]

yo, got two already. if I have one every 5m I'll get all of them in ~13h

[rich epoch]

it is not a bad idea to hoard limited resources. store stuff is the actual hardest thing to farm

[paper sail]

Now I have a wasted space with 2 bullets

[next locust]

Whetstone op.
With it, we can finally put everything to exp without paying full opportunity cost!
Imagine all the fun!

[short gale]

all in to speed, whestone, all in to exp, claim, whetstone back to all in to speed????

[paper sail]

Drop the Doot or get more bullets, doggo

[leaden epoch]

lmao

[next locust]

Yes! Triple the fun of spending points!

[terse cosmos]

recently got to w5 been leveling up the lowel levels a bit , im thinking getting everyone to 110-120 . what else should i be focusing on?

[next locust]

Div until goat, then lab until you get every node covered

[short gale]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[paper sail]

Oh shit, I have way more time I should be able to complete that

[next locust]

I had way more time and bigger respawn and I failed horribly.. twice. How did that guy almost get it? ;_;

I suck and I should uninstall

[short gale]

do you press Auto and pray? or are you all sweaty pressing hotkeys at maximum efficiency

[muted bramble]

what is a good card set up to maximize dmg ?

[next locust]

Auto and click platforms with mouse to move around spreading love

[gentle furnace]

Boss

[leaden epoch]

i was on frogs as bubo if that helps

[muted bramble]

set up as in like which 8 cards do you put in the slots ...

[gentle furnace]

N troll and dr def doubled, orange, bloodbone, snowman, n chiz, wurms

[dapper prism]

Damage cards, might have better stuff:
https://i.imgur.com/TVETTVO.png

[next locust]

Did you use talents manually or auto?

[muted bramble]

im trying to push my rift

for the big healing wormy boy

[autumn wasp]

weapon power might give more damage than the all stat %

[unborn charm]

if i have lab already covered cos of doot when should i return to lab? cos most of my characters are still pretty low level, only reason i have all the nodes is cos i can put all 10 of them in

[paper sail]

Sand Giant card is good to DPS - though not MAX damage

[tacit tulip]

once you need more card slots (75 for all) would be the main draw

[unborn charm]

makes sense thanks

also is it known that theres a bug with doot where all the divinities are active even if they aren't unlocked?

[dapper prism]

chip*

[muted bramble]

im running this i guess

[tall horizon]

Not a bug

[tacit tulip]

they both begin with C close enough (thanks)

[unborn charm]

wait doot works even without having unlocked the divinities?

[leaden epoch]

auto talents and clicking to move myself just did another attempt only got 1694 this time 😦

[unborn charm]

thats broken

[dapper prism]

World 5 Doot companion owners:
https://imgur.com/kXkZfj9

[gentle furnace]

You just need level 2 div to get all gods bonus

[tall horizon]

Yes, but you still need to unlock to level the blessings

[unborn charm]

yeah blessings seem pretty op so ill continue with it anyway

[left spoke]

Not even close

[crystal adder]

Do I AFK on ES to farm mats?

[left spoke]

(needed 115 for equinox)

[left spoke]

No, you need to do it actively

[autumn wasp]

1377B

[left spoke]

Or else the class doesn't really matter iirc

[autumn wasp]

1371B

[next locust]

Yeah I got 1700ish (1300 first time but I fought without talent bar at the beginning lol) so there's probs lot of rng involved. Same strat as you had

[dapper prism]

Gotta remove 40b to do leet dmg

[muted bramble]

which character are best to push rift ? to kill the big boy healing ?

[left spoke]

You need everyone to push rift

And the big boy need to be killed by multiple char

[dapper prism]

ES and Bubo have nice burst dmg

[left spoke]

Siege breaker too

[muted bramble]

appreciate it, just killed it on my SB ES and DK

so ill try bubo

[paper sail]

If your Bubo struggles, equip the Syringe talent

[dapper prism]

Spam vials

[crystal adder]

At which point I should start doing my DK?

Until my ES is maxed?

[dapper prism]

"doing" what?

They have different purpose

You use either based on the purpose you are going for

W5 you want Bubo/DK at the last zone

[crystal adder]

What does DK used for usually?

[left spoke]

Statues farming and colo

[crystal adder]

Max is w4 colo right?

[dapper prism]

and any drop in rare bag

Yes, but different colo have different purpose too 😄

[paper sail]

Any drop from a crystal

[crystal adder]

What??

[left spoke]

You can farm a lot of candies with W2 colo

[paper sail]

There are some rare bags not on crystals

[left spoke]

"money" on W4 colo

And drops from mini-boss on every world

[dapper prism]

Colosseum Purpose:

• Colo 1 = Gems per ticket (But not much more than colo 2, at the loss of candy, so do colo 2)
• Colo 2 = Candy, Golden Kebab (+% Total dmg)
• Colo 3 = Slush Obols+Skulls, Golden Bread (+% Coin drop)
• Colo 4 = Eggs, Ladles
• Colo 5 = To be released

Note:

• Gold bread seems to only give ~1% of the displayed value, not really worth it - TheContract

[muted bramble]

TRICKZ

i need comliment

i pushed my treshold for rift

[left spoke]

But you need to use the orb of DK otherwise you won't get multiple times the rewards

[crystal adder]

My ES is level 315
Dk 110
Bubo 250
SB 255

[dapper prism]

Level is kinda irrelevant

[crystal adder]

Yea I'm like stucked tho. I can push stages easily on es

[muted bramble]

even i feel sadness...

[crystal adder]

Don't you guys have a main character first? Like 1 strong one with all the good stuffs?

[left spoke]

If he can kill mobs he can level up very quickly

[paper sail]

ES also has an expiration. They sorta run out of stuff to do long before Bubo and DK. They get relegated to low level farming that doesn't generate meaningful EXP as well.

[left spoke]

Depends on your alchemy if he can kill mobs

[dapper prism]

Do stuff with a purpose. There's not much reason to have ES on last map w5.
Bubo needs it for best CC and money
DK needs it for best keys, statues, and later money (with high enough orb)

[left spoke]

Nope

[sick sentinel]

main char isnt the best mentality since all chars do things well in their own areas

[short gale]

i did and then i matured

[dapper prism]

Different alts = Different purpose.
There is no "main"

[crystal adder]

I see... thank you all guys. 🙏

[dapper prism]

But at the end you will play 95% DK and Bubo.

[paper sail]

CCD eating too much of my day

[muted bramble]

not me active SB for no real reason XD

[dapper prism]

I neglect CCD a lot

[crystal adder]

At which point I should be doing a Bubo?

[dapper prism]

when you need water and stuff

[left spoke]

I quited 4 months ago, anyone to check what I should focus on ?
https://skeleris.idleonefficiency.com/

[muted bramble]

let me stop you right there

alchemy is 90% of the answer

then its stamps

then everything

or be like me and ignore both stamps and alchemy and push with lots of struggle

[left spoke]

I wanted maybe more specific answers, my alchemy isn't that bad but maybe I should focus on a specific bubble, same for stamps

[swift pecan]

His alchemy isn't like most people who ask that question

[crystal adder]

Do I need level 200 tentacles to start a effective Bubo?

[wise vapor]

when you say focus alchemy, what are the main prioritys for it? Like significant boosts etc

[left spoke]

It's better but not mandatory

[left spoke]

Everything matters in the beginning

[paper sail]

@dapper prism Would you be willing to DM a list of what you consider appropriate progression points for anywhere in the game? I'm working on an IE auto-review bot and would love outside opinions / more tiers.

[muted bramble]

In case of doubt i shall lend you my personal encyclopedia @dapper prism

[wise vapor]

im at w5 but feel my alchemy is worse then most at w3 lol

Is the strat to get the 3d printer printing the resources?

[left spoke]

Do you have atoms upgrade ?

[wise vapor]

no clue what that is...

so nope

[left spoke]

For the first bubble you can print it if you can get 1 upgrade every hour

[left spoke]

I can quickly check your IE if you want

[wise vapor]

that would be great

https://wompdewomp.idleonefficiency.com

[tacit tulip]

If we follow the discord worlds 1-4 is "bumrush w5" and then we have to think about it properly once we get to w5 😄

[kindred dagger]

Best place to farm golden cheese ?

[inner python]

Anyone else having trouble to get Divine knight to use "power strike" on auto? (Talent from tab2)

[autumn wasp]

get closer

[inner python]

Spamming w5 boss, and he stops too far away lol

[tacit tulip]

it's one of those moves that casts on proximity. With a w5 weapon you won't autocast it unless a mob spawns on you. For kattle/bnossing, get closer to the boss

[paper sail]

The plan is essentially for each tab in IE to be its own progression. You'll get a quick view that says "Your stamps are tier 3, your alchemy is tier 5, your vials are tier 1." and then list the requirements to advance each thing to the next tier. So it isn't "do this before w5" it is more how to improve each section individually.

[tacit tulip]

yeah it's cause of the reach of a weapon, some skills could do with reworking to scale distance based on weapon reach

[inner python]

ah right

Explains it

[dapper prism]

There's not much, so just tossing what i see:

• Don't let NBLB hit the easy skilling cost bubbles, so it forces it more onto the hard (salt/trap/anvil/soul) cost stuff into atom range.
• Try and get your Purple and Orange skilling bubbles to 90% effy.
• A lot of lower side vials, use vman void run for mob samples, easy lvl 13 vials.
• Construction your Towers need a bunch of work
• Samples, 4/10 have mob drop samples, should only need vman imo.
• Shiny pets, im suprised you kepy some shiny rate pets like gmush on lvl 4

Random potential goals:

• Doing more Eclipse?
• Work towards Divine Scard and Trophy. Level 425/450 all
• Fill up slab a bit more (weapons)
  FIX GEAR
• Card sets are wrong on a few, e.g. Effy while combat.
• 0 Emps and just Neutrons?
• No Coldseeker bullets, very mixed pots/food
• Nearly no Dreadlo tools (could be a goal to get main Dreadlo all, then all dreadlo tools.
• Get Divine (kattle) top/legs for your main afk grinder like SB stuck at gmush.

[left spoke]

1. You need to get every daily boss key (complete the quest on each char)
2. Unlock all stamps (Check wiki if you don't know how to get those)
3. Unlock all bubbles, to do that use a bubo and max his specific talent that increase new bubble chances. At this level all bubbles need love.
4. Use all your tries to unlock new vials everyday
5. Use all your traps on every char
6. Cook some eggs (W5 skill)
7. You need some char in lab to level up and get access to huge bonus
8. You'll need to level up divinity to unlock god, don't worry about wasting 1 day worth of time to get the first 2 gods, it's really a big boost.
9. Try to start doing sailing every now and then so you can unlock artifact as soon as possible

[dapper prism]

Yes because it's my last talent to use

[left spoke]

Your account is really low level so don't worry about doing previous world things

[short gale]

There was something about the last weapon have too high a range for power strike to be used...

[dapper prism]

I added to fix your traps

[wise vapor]

Absolute legend ty

[dapper prism]

They still look the same as the last time you asked for someone to check your IE

[inner python]

Yeah, tried to stand closer to the boss on auto, now it works. Must be the reach that does it

[left spoke]

What's wrong with my traps ?

[inner python]

that 1000t hp bar needs every dmg for me xD

[short gale]

Yeah I think the last warrior weapon adds that last bit of weapon range that makes it so your char doesn't move close enough to use the skill.

[dapper prism]

oh wrong IE, then it must be womp that asked not long ago or someone else ig

[short gale]

but why use that shitty skill anyways

[inner python]

If it saves me like 1 min per run, why not

[dapper prism]

If you struggle on kattle, you shouldnt really be doing kattle

[inner python]

Nightmare kattle that is

[dapper prism]

yeh.. only struggle should ever be the 1-2 kills on vman and maybe bb

but when you say "save an extra 1min per run" it means you are doing kattle over and over (grinding it) which is a bit of a meh objective

[inner python]

on nightmare, not chaotic or normal

[dapper prism]

Once again, yes, i know

[short gale]

i am planning on grinding kattle tonight first for task completions and then for pendant drops

over and over and over

[dapper prism]

Shouldnt really be grinding nm kattle if it takes you "minutes" to kill.

[inner python]

So just wait until world 7 then? :p

[muted bramble]

me taking an hour per kill

lmao

[left spoke]

What's Eclipse and Divine Scard ?

[inner python]

im at like 12 mins now xD just want the cards

[short gale]

Eclipse is a level of deathnote. Unlocked in Rift. It's 1 billion kills per mob.

Gives something like 5% dmg per Eclipse

Divine Scard = Divine Scarf

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/The_Divine_Scarf

[dapper prism]

(and 10% mk/tier for that world, nice for gmush))

[left spoke]

Thanks !

Wow, hard to craft

Even the Strung Tooth of the Divine is hard to get alone

I'm currently farming for max weapon and eclipse carrot

I'll do Dementia tools after the weapons

[thorn marsh]

bb dmg needed for nightmare kattlekruk?

ish

[sleek ermine]

how to quickly buy stuff from shop, there was a way right?

Like full stacks

[thorn marsh]

lower left corner

[sleek ermine]

No mate, like going from 0 to 9mil for example

[thorn marsh]

click + afterwards

[sleek ermine]

its still same speed, if I remember correctly it goes instant somehow

[autumn wasp]

you click it once

[thorn marsh]

make sure it's highlighted and click + once

[sleek ermine]

ok it works now for some reason it didnt before

weird

[bold quiver]

does anyone thik lava will ever increase storage cap from 1050M to more?

[tacit tulip]

we might get 2b one day but the atom system was put into place to stop overflow on mobile (which happened at 2.1b)

[bold quiver]

ohhh thats true. He uses potato coding

its bits something, oh lord

[daring ravine]

thats the 32 bit interger limit i think?

[tacit tulip]

32 bit yeah. 2^31 = 2.1b

[bold quiver]

now that u said that i rememberd that he uses the same bit 32 from IS which caused the same shitty proiblems there

great mindset lava

[tacit tulip]

the game is based on maplestory that used to have the same issue

so I blame that 😛

[bold quiver]

[daring ravine]

keeping the techniques the same for the realism

[bold quiver]

im not a coding expert not anything, but i also rememer someone saying that there is no reason for him to use a 32bit thing, its dumb

no idea if its true or not

[tacit tulip]

It used to be a limitation with 32 bit systems - which started to be phased out at windows vista

a lot of systems still use 32bit tho

[thorn marsh]

just buy the gemshop upgrade to 33bit (:

[tacit tulip]

I still run into it a bunch in databases ant the like

[bold quiver]

👺

[tacit tulip]

but yeah don't really blame lava for the 32 bit limitation thing

it's a rookie mistake but like, I see it in much bigger companies

[viral snow]

Ive seen people happily use DOS not even 10 years ago

[potent maple]

bought 3 talent books and got a lvl 84, should i stop there or use moar trophies?

[rough wasp]

So in 8 years we will get 10B limit

[tacit tulip]

Yup! More mesos for you

[daring ravine]

more p10 without wasting storage space like a madman

[short gale]

Anyone remember the mesos exploit from the late 2000s?

It was something like dropping mesos while at 0 would reverse you back to the 2.1b

[autumn wasp]

pink bean?

o

[short gale]

or adding mesos into a trade. maybe it was adding negative mesos into a trade?

[tacit tulip]

I worked on the game can I give you an honorary 🔨 😛

[short gale]

wait really?!

When it was Nexon or Wizet?

[tacit tulip]

Nexon, the EU version specifically

[short gale]

DAMN! That's really cool

[tacit tulip]

uh sec lemme check my linkedin lmao

[potent maple]

i have no idea what these words are that you're using lolz

[autumn wasp]

Das cool bruh, can you share what you guys be doing every weekly maintenence

[short gale]

setting the servers on fire amirite

[tacit tulip]

Most of it was literally that: The servers are shite and need maintenance 😛

[rough wasp]

So I can blame you for the issues

[thorn marsh]

doxxed

[short gale]

No game will ever give me the rush that MS did when a new server was released, rush for world first to whatever

[autumn wasp]

Thursdays were always my most productive day

cuz the game will be down for 18 hrs

[rough wasp]

where’s the maintenance meme

[fathom lagoon]

Ain’t that the truth

[short gale]

"You don't know?"

[rough wasp]

My favorite

[short gale]

"That's when maintenance begins"

[tacit tulip]

now for fun second fact: My wife also worked on maplestory, we met via the game 😄

[short gale]

"So what happens when maintenance is over?"

This comic makes no sense

[fathom lagoon]

Did you get married in-game too

[tacit tulip]

yeah but that was before we were properly together

[rough wasp]

You’re reading the wrong way..

[fathom lagoon]

You gotta read right to left lol

[potent maple]

i met my husband on a small text-only game with like 100 players max

[short gale]

what did you do for MS generally? CS? Dev?

[fathom lagoon]

E-dating before e-dating

[tacit tulip]

I was a mix of admin, support, and QA

I got to do the GM shenanigans and have the funny hat.

[short gale]

what was the general vibe around ms private servers in the offices lol

were they hated

[tacit tulip]

Nah noone cares

[short gale]

ahh i see

[tacit tulip]

It's only korea who will get antsy about stuff

[rough wasp]

I’m guessing there wasn’t enough people

Sakori prob played pservers

[tacit tulip]

Honestly as far as staffing goes it wasn't that bad. Most of the QA stuff I did was just checking over the patches before they came out

[short gale]

put this on your application to beta test idleon, lava would love it

[hollow osprey]

should i take vman out of lab and level skills?

[short gale]

why not

[potent maple]

is your vman highest rank in all skills?

[tacit tulip]

Nah I still have a full time job, aint got time for that these days

[hollow osprey]

nop

[potent maple]

that should be your first priority because of right hand/left hand and his talent that gives dmg based on lowest lvl skill

[hollow osprey]

alright ty

[upbeat trout]

is there any way to get choco chip other thn spamming gems ?

[short gale]

it's available for purchase in December

[tacit tulip]

it'll be in rotation end of the year

[rapid shale]

we get to wait patiently

[upbeat trout]

rotation is fixed ? o.0

[tacit tulip]

Yup

[rapid shale]

ye, i belive it comes into shop around the 25th

of december

[upbeat trout]

oh my... this is ... idk what to say

[tacit tulip]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ohtWMLT4NzBuVyqcXoEvkCMPXuYGWrRWUAmBOTdZCrQ/edit#gid=1945859978

[upbeat trout]

not gonna lie, this is the first time im hearing it s all fixed omegalul thanks for that, now i can farm ahead for those gems/ chips

[queen lodge]

Quick question, because this type of statue is on a normal mob drop, it's better to farm it with ES rather than DK right?

[junior delta]

any tips for gaming aside of getting higher nugget

[mortal compass]

What am I doing wrong trying to get this baby yaga eggs? I am killing it almost 6-8 times a day with x6.95 drop rate. It's been like 3 days. Am I that unlucky?

[worldly hollow]

fucking finally

[short gale]

check your loot filter?

[junior delta]

maybe its in filter

[queen lodge]

Ok thank guys

[junior delta]

grats

[worldly hollow]

thanks! finally had enough dps to just hit the boss and ignore the moles lmao

[short gale]

how long did it take

[worldly hollow]

5 mins

[mortal compass]

Not in my loot filter (just double checked). Side note, you cannot add things that haven't dropped for you in loot filter

[short gale]

can u show ur dmg range

[short gale]

run world 1 colo, yaga spawns in there too

[short gale]

thx

[junior delta]

claim all before or after minigame

[worldly hollow]

biggest things i noticed, respeccing and maxing out all the jabs and the void radius

[mortal compass]

I thought about it but I need the eggs from w4 coliseum if I am gonna have any chance at getting the next few lab gems/chips

[worldly hollow]

omg

i just noticed i swapped my chips to my es not vman... they have the same hat lmao

with chips

[short gale]

that's fair. yaga eggs are 1 in 167. you'd need to run a few to get them for looty at that DR.

do you want them for looty or the jewel purchase

[mortal compass]

Specifically for the November 1 lab gem (28% reduction in egg incubation)

[tropic kiln]

what are the 2 best classes for lavaskulls

[zinc torrent]

did arcade get buffed or something, i just got 3 of the blue rolls 3 times in a row and 4 times with 1000 balls. either that or i wasted all my luck in idleon arcade

[short gale]

for farming lava skulls for deathnote? BB, ES, SB

[pine yacht]

damn I just realized, Nov is gonna be bonkers for chips

[short gale]

or for doing the lava skull rift challenge

yeah there are 2 doublers right? or 3

[tropic kiln]

lava

rift I mean

[potent maple]

that doesn't narrow it down 🙂 rift skull i think just one of your dudes that can put out some dps

[tropic kiln]

okay thanks

[potent maple]

just let them fight there for a while, they'll run into a lava skull dude to kill

[short gale]

pick a class that doesn't full clear

[tacit tulip]

you can also auto until you see a nice skull (plat I did) then just turn auto off and kill it

50% chance it goes purple
50% chance that goes lava

[pine yacht]

I just clicked auto and went to WC usually for that shit

[potent maple]

eh you'll get it eventually and auto doesn't HAVE to be off

[pine yacht]

tho having too much dmg can fuck up the auto

[tacit tulip]

SB is good for auto-ing it

no matter how high your damage, as long as you have coin buff you can't clear the map

[pine yacht]

My trick was not having enough dmg

I still have no fucking idea how I finished rift tbh

[short gale]

i need to push fr 41 to 46 soon but i dont wanna go back

[potent maple]

i'm stuck on r44 😦 so close to ruby cards yet so far away

hoping equinix dmg boost will get me there very soon

[pine yacht]

I swear imma use 10 y worth of luck on this shitty event... got 4 out of 6 hats plus 1 dupe from 349 Treats...

[potent maple]

sounds about normal

[short gale]

i've pulled 5 yodas 💀

[potent maple]

luck happens when you don't aim for it lol

[pine yacht]

considering I've been seing people with 4 dupes regularly, it's not

[tacit tulip]

I had 4 sheepie in a row once

which is statistically less likely to happen than a doot

from the halloween event I've had one yoda

[pine yacht]

it still pisses me off that recycling free pets gives you jack shit... like at least give me 1 lousy green gem for it

that way in like 9 months I can at least save up for tradable 1 pet...

[potent maple]

i dont understand pet trading either, nobody will want to trade for most of the pets

like, nobody will take a slime in trade for a doot, i don't expect people to have a lot of duplicate doots, and if they do, what would they even want?

[brisk anvil]

What damage would you say is needed for rift 36

[potent maple]

probs a bit more than you have currently or else you probably wouldn't have asked 😄

[tacit tulip]

I think I was in and around the 20b range when I did 36

[junior delta]

is this worth upgrading

[echo marsh]

what do your stats look like right now?

[potent maple]

do yo uhave a lot of dreams completed?

[lavish cloak]

i'd say so

[pine yacht]

funny enough, people that have been locked out of the low pets would like to do just that

[junior delta]

additive or not?

[lavish cloak]

i'd trade a slug for a slime deffo

[junior delta]

only 11

[lavish cloak]

i'm not entirely certain, but it added 5 billion damage to my voidwalker, so getting it felt great.

(300 billion if that was your next question)

[pine yacht]

I didnt even notice it at first

[potent maple]

so 11 x 1.79 (from sadeth's example) is nearly 20% dmg

[pine yacht]

since it was my first star talent on that page

[tacit tulip]

it's also kinda buggy on unlock

doesn't appear on your other characters until you reboot game

[pine yacht]

lol

[lavish cloak]

this game is getting huge. i wonder when i'll need to upgrade my computer.

[pine yacht]

at least you wont be needing a new HDD for it anytime soon

[tacit tulip]

get a game for city skylines 2 and you might even be able to run idleon steadily 😄

[pine yacht]

like 250ish MB, you can install this shit on your RAM if you wanted to

[pine yacht]

there are so many things that are so god damn laggy for me for no reason... like the pong game

[sly jetty]

anyone have any tips for the purple monsters in worship TD? my krakens keep sending them flying while my voids are stunned

struggling with the w5 TD

[tacit tulip]

you either need to place your void a bit further back so it doesn't get stunned, have stronger towers so the stuns don't rech your void, or put a second void right at the back to save you from purple deatrh

[tacit tulip]

gz. how many royal ashes do you have? 😄

[deft grail]

only 466M KC not bad

[tacit tulip]

it's the royal ones that matter - multikill messes withyour estimates

[deft grail]

1106 royal ashies

[tacit tulip]

so pretty standard -1000 is average

[deft grail]

yeah aware of multikill being inaccurate

whats the base killcap on suggmas?

[tacit tulip]

too low to even consider trying guaranteed drops

[deft grail]

yay i'm in the standard deviation

[sly jetty]

you think frozone -> void - > psy would work better than void - > frozone -> psy?

[pine yacht]

iirc I got it the moment I put my ES there, so in about 2M kills

[sly jetty]

ty for the info

[deft grail]

well great now what map do i put all my mules on

[tacit tulip]

I had the same issue last time so not too sure actually

[deft grail]

just grind eclipse?

or kattle keys i guess

[tacit tulip]

someone has to be I eclipsed suggma well before getting it

[deft grail]

oooof

[sly jetty]

yeah its a pain, my dmg is fine but idk how people are getting to 140, purples keep wrecking me

[deft grail]

looks like a skill issue

[sly jetty]

probably

[deft grail]

o i meant sakori not hitting knuckles

[tacit tulip]

my solutiuon for wave 59/60 was to spawn wave 60 immeiately after 59

[deft grail]

guess i'll just start eclipsing with my noobie characters

[tacit tulip]

the purples got to my void before it got stunned

did the same again for 79/80

[sly jetty]

ouu

ill try that thanks

[tacit tulip]

ah wait, it's 89/90 that needs it. Messed it up on that one

need to try for 121 for equinox sometime

[left cloak]

Realistically what DR should you have before you start farming pop obols? I'm chillin at the 7.0 breakpoint and found like 5 in the past 6 hours

[tacit tulip]

anything 5+ is fine

[junior delta]

ES?

no DK for pop

[left cloak]

Of course ES

[tacit tulip]

most people farmed these before ES/DK were a thing, took weeks

[short gale]

not dk, it's main mob drop

[junior delta]

well ye its slow

[left cloak]

😭

Damn

[carmine hearth]

ES turns damage into drop rate, so damage has a far impact

[tacit tulip]

It's slow but they're effectively a permanent upgrade to your account

as you'll almost always be using droprate in active

[short gale]

At least the DR will get better as you go along 😂

[left cloak]

Not until I get to 9.0 😭

Actually

I think you're right, cause ES will get better DR from portal

[tacit tulip]

drop rate is linear for things you don't have a 100% chance to get

the 7/9 thresholds for coins are because they're guaranteed drops at a certain DR

[left cloak]

WHAT

God bless you, I thought that DR was just a dead stat until it reached the breakpoint

[carmine hearth]

People that get 10+ pop obles an hour get their portals to very big numbers

[short gale]

You thought you wouldn't drop something if you didn't have 100% chance to drop it???

[tacit tulip]

so like,. if something is 1/5, 5 DR guarantees you getting 1. 7.5 doesn't mean you get 2 tho - 10 DR does

coins are basically working the same way

you're kinda multidropping coins using the DR thresholds

[left cloak]

That makes so much sense now

[tacit tulip]

of something is 1/10, 2DR means it takes on average 5 kills to get 1. 5 DR is 1/2

[left cloak]

No, I was thinking that the stat didn't apply a buff to drops until it reached the breakpoint

[empty oracle]

Hiya peeps

[left cloak]

I see that the column is labeled money now

and I feel stupid

[dapper prism]

rip, find the mistake
https://i.imgur.com/8GKXEoZ.png

[empty oracle]

What's the most recent consensus on the extra 3 character classes?

[left spoke]

Those 6 looks almost impossible (idk how good the respawn rate bonus is for Killroy though)

Except for the 30

[short gale]

killroy is definitely possible, even without respawn rate incr

people are posting completion w/ like 40 in +timer

[left spoke]

Oh maybe because I don't do killroy a lot so my timer isn't great

But with bubo I reached 1200

Killing everything on screen every poison tick

[short gale]

GMush we were talking about that earlier, it's bugged to complete at 1 billion

Tower defense to 120 is a joke with the Equinox upgr now

[left spoke]

Oh that's good news

I still have those to do, lot of waiting and a bugged dungeon

[sly jetty]

@tacit tulip psy - void - froze - psy - psy is working really well just fyi

[hexed dawn]

how many atoms upgrade u get per day?

im starting thinking about upgrading bubbles with atoms but getting only 18 per day

is there any way to increase it other than upgrading at attom collider? XD

[left spoke]

I think I have ~42

[hexed dawn]

thats alot xD cc is not resetting atom upgrades right?

[left spoke]

Iirc yeah it's possible

Maybe an achievement

[left spoke]

CC = Crystal Countdown ?

[hexed dawn]

nn cranium cooking xD

[short gale]

atom upgr is from daily reset

[hexed dawn]

aha so people are only spamming CC for grind time?

[dull berry]

Hello, how do I change on my ES a link to 2nd god? when I do unlink in classic UI it unlikns the 1st boss however stays linked to my 2nd god in talents. How do I change this?

[short gale]

originally, now there is the equinox upgrade for spillover into cauldron upgrades too

[hexed dawn]

ok ty both

[short gale]

we like having enough liquid to hourly click bubbles, so there's that too!

[hexed dawn]

hourly click bubbles? u mean those stat bubbles right?

[sick sentinel]

Any resource you can print 1bil of an hour can be hourly clicked

[hexed dawn]

ye thats what i thought

and u then use multiple space in deposit for it?

[short gale]

nope

[sick sentinel]

Do you mean in storage?

[hexed dawn]

ah ye storage xDD

[sick sentinel]

Printer only fills first stack so no

[short gale]

print 1bil, use 1bil, only 1 spot in storage

[hexed dawn]

ah ok because atom collidor is not taking resources before u change char right?

[short gale]

you can set atom collider to atomize at 1.05b

so it fills to 1.05b and atomizes anything after that

then we use the 1.0b from that stack to hourly click

[hexed dawn]

ah right its 1,05B and u use 1b idk why i thought its the same and u stay with 0 XD

still long way for me before this stage of the game but its nice to know

[short gale]

it also atomizes before changing characters

[opaque drift]

Whats the main stuff i should do when ive just unlocked w5? Highest damage is just over a mill on bb, and almost have all elite classes

[short gale]

at 1mil dps you need to go back and work on every system in the game

[opaque drift]

Ive been doing that dw, i just pushed thru to start on w5 skills too

Just wondering what stuff i should focus on for the w5 skills

[zealous niche]

From pins: #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

Sailing and gaming are long term background skills like alchemy, con, breeding, cooking, no player involvement needed, just run the system

[ancient portal]

Just unlocked divinities and the other day super lucky got king doot

[deft grail]

Best game ever made

[ancient portal]

I only have 2 divinities unlocked but it seems to be applying bonuses from all of them? Is that how king doot works?

[deft grail]

Yeah it'll just turn them all on even if you haven't unlocked them yet

[kind cave]

Guys why does MR MASSACRE not change my multikill and overall kills/hr?

[pure ember]

Which is why it is broken...... easy x10 all progress with it...... especially when badgur and kattlekruk get bonuses

[pure ember]

Got sheep?

[autumn wasp]

re enter the map

[ancient portal]

Weirdly enough thou the bonus only shows up on some of my characters? Everyone has been to w5 and has been on the divinity podium but the 3D printer bonus isn’t applied same with the lab bonus

[kind cave]

What sheep?

[kind cave]

Tried

[pure ember]

Companion sheep

[kind cave]

Yeah

Is it any important for that or?

[pure ember]

It's always equipped then

[fallow yacht]

Would pushing divinity still be a priority even with king doot?

[kind cave]

Oh fk me

I see it now, ty

I'm dummy

[pure ember]

Sheep is 3rd best Companion

[kind cave]

Man, that's op af

Didn't realize I'm that weak considering having all those bubbles😂

[pure ember]

Got to use crystal countdown and get your skill lvls up

But mman/vman is weakest in dmg among all classes

Maybe also stick SB's onto gmush as well

Or starting to get w1 to w3 mobs Plat skulled

[fallow yacht]

I had that happen to me as well, after unlocking bear and linking with it on the broken character it applied all the bonuses

[tacit tulip]

its based on divinity level

your active character needs to be at least level 2, at which point all gods are active

if you swap too a char that is only level 1, they all deactivate again

[deft grail]

You probably want to at least get your account's Div levels up to the point where you can passively gain exp from Mantra (?)

Because the minor link bonuses from linked gods are based on Div level and those are pretty important

[hollow osprey]

oh yes gambling was worth it

[deft grail]

Wow you are skilled

[short gale]

should i gamble for doot after work today

[deft grail]

Yeah fuck it

[pure ember]

How good is poker chip

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-do-it-gif-24435329

[fluid tinsel]

Of course you should

[short gale]

im scared

[fallow yacht]

Good to know! Thank you

[deft grail]

Ball out man YOLO

[dapper prism]

World 5 Doot companion owners:
https://imgur.com/kXkZfj9

[pure ember]

Going to buy 1 45$ green gems.....

[deft grail]

You might have the priviledge of waiting until you get some bonuses to your Divinity EXP rate though, so idk what the best answer tbh (Dootless pleb here)

[short gale]

how many rolls is that

[dapper prism]

at least 5

[deft grail]

use Trickz answer for sure

[fluid tinsel]

if t5 snack, it's 16 rolls or more depending on recycles

[mighty linden]

How does Polytheism work? I have 2 points in the talent as described by talent guides but I can’t seem to link to 2 gods. Is there a requirement I miss?

[fluid tinsel]

if I remember correctly

[dapper prism]

check pins

[short gale]

$45 for a 16% chance...fuck me

[deft grail]

Are you a pro gamer or not

[fluid tinsel]

It's a bit worse than 16% chance, it's 16 rolls and the % to get doot is 0.85% if T5 snack

[short gale]

yea

[fallow yacht]

Only the most dedicated gamblers get rewarded

[dapper prism]

It isnt gambling if you guarantee your drop 😉

[fluid tinsel]

But hey I unlocked bubbles with a lower % first try, everything is possible

[mighty linden]

Ah thx and I obviously can’t link to gods I don’t have right?

[dapper prism]

correct

[hollow osprey]

halloween treats can drop this?

[coral goblet]

dooters rise up

[pure ember]

Got 1 rift slug, 1 crystal custard, got my first ram........ and ......... nothing else (t5 here)

At 65/200 so far

All but doot

[hollow osprey]

t5 aswell, 47/200

[dapper prism]

I need Ram 😦

[pure ember]

Didn't have ram

[hollow osprey]

ram was my first bought comp after getting the pet bundle

[deft grail]

I've been ignoring this question for a while (too casual) but can anyone give more insights on how Monster Cash multipliers work? is everything below Lab Bonus an additive base value N?

and then are all the multipliers (Prayer through Lab) additive with each other too?

[pure ember]

I have gotten 4 slugs so far

[hollow osprey]

ngl ram is by far my fav pet

would never play again without it

[pure ember]

It is nice

[hollow osprey]

definitely yeah

[dapper prism]

Different things for money are in different groups, things in the same group are additive, different groups are multiplied between eachother. Looking for sheet

Money Multipliers / Addtivie vs Multiplicative Sheet: (tags to find it easier)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rU1V21io6jkYNseBxZSAy9BK-B_t7TAlCDfMHNierSo/edit#gid=0

[deft grail]

My guess is Prayer through Lab is one big multiplier that works on Equipment through Talent

Thank you

So... each group is additive with itself, then all groups are multiplicative on each other

[dapper prism]

Yes, that's what the sheet says 👀
https://i.imgur.com/sfScQU8.png

So certain things like Group 7 become kinda meh, since it's a huge group

[deft grail]

I just wanted to type it again for emphasis ^-^

[dapper prism]

Whereas Lab gmush, prayer and bunny are pretty strong since they are solo groups

[deft grail]

Thank u Trickz for your massive repository of information on all things idle

[short gale]

should we start calling him Sheetz

[glad crow]

this is a real nice bonus

[dapper prism]

Nice if you get a 100 roll 😦

[untold lintel]

that just adds .62 right?

[short gale]

"just"

[untold lintel]

not actually x1.62?

[prisma drift]

Multiplied by SB and gem shop pack if you bought it

[untold lintel]

i buy everything

[glad crow]

im at 21.77 Dr now :D

[untold lintel]

but stil not real nice imo

[prisma drift]

I like it I’m at 22.1 now

Wasted 300 trophies tho

Could have gotten so many watches

[glad crow]

i thought i was gonna get bad books, so i just spammed the buy book button.... after that it showed that the first book was 100 so i just wasted trophies

[dapper prism]

I was fed up with all the standalone spreadsheets, so initially i started tossing most things all into 1 big personal sheet.

That was a while back, but lately i've been organizing it nicer and setting it up properly, asking others for perms to make it public at some point.

[zinc torrent]

Does Drop Rate affect Plunderous Coins (from Plunder Ye Deceased)?

[dapper prism]

It's a base 2% afaik

[hybrid spindle]

what are the odds of getting the rare material instead of the normal one from an island?

[paper sail]

5% I believe

[dapper prism]

Forgot but think it was something low like 5% ?

[zinc torrent]

Cool; I'll have more than enough Star Talents to spare in that case

[hybrid spindle]

so it's gonna take me a while until I can get my mage dmg up...I just unlocked the music note island but so far they have refused to show themselves

[autumn wasp]

why does 1 character have significantly less equinox sample than another one when its normal samples are bigger?

[hybrid spindle]

you probably forgot some bonus

[dapper prism]

Probably forgot something important like switching talent preset or cards/food?

[autumn wasp]

but the first one has everything higher except equinox

[sweet pine]

check your chip

[hybrid spindle]

the other sample is so close to each other that the difference shouldn't be so big between the others, so the only thing I can think of is forgetting a bonus

[zinc torrent]

Power Trithree is so elusive

[dapper prism]

Well depends, did you sample those cereals at the same time as the new sample?

[autumn wasp]

well i did 1 char first then the other

[untold saffron]

I rolled an 88 on my first star talent, do I gamba

[hybrid spindle]

yeah but just dropping once will give me a few levels and that's enough for a huge damage boost

[dapper prism]

175 trophies and only got an 84

[autumn wasp]

maybe i just fked up

[pearl cedar]

Personally, I like to just search through 3 years of discord messages until I find the right spreadsheet

[hybrid spindle]

I'll raise you an 88

[sweet pine]

is that char having higher catching lvl than your vman atm?

[dapper prism]

That's why when i repost stuff i try to leave a few tags, that way i can just CTRL+F Trickzbunny, has: link, then a workd like money or whatever

[thorn oriole]

I did and got 100 on my second

[untold saffron]

So, my nearer end game friends, what's everyone's gameplan until W6 releases? I'm running out of goals other than more greenstacks

[pearl cedar]

SMORF

[autumn wasp]

no both are lower, and it wouldnt make sense for the other bug samples to be bigger

[thorn oriole]

All quests?

[pure ember]

Take off O's for Smrt

Trickz is SMRT

[pearl cedar]

Kinda looks like you accidentally ate a food

[untold saffron]

Everything useful is done, rolling the picnic quests daily on everyone for skill eff

[sweet pine]

well then now only chip/talent preset/ boost food can make that much different

[pearl cedar]

Or you dont have enough eff for equinox

[thorn oriole]

You get skill eff?

[dapper prism]

I'm literally finishing the last quests as we speak xD (except greenstack ones)

[autumn wasp]

fuck now im curious wtf happened, cant go to sleep til i regear the first char and find out

[untold saffron]

The 9 quests or whatever add to the star talent

[thorn oriole]

😮

[hybrid spindle]

do achievement rewards land on the floor or inventory?

[dapper prism]

mostly floor

[hybrid spindle]

that's terrifying...

[dapper prism]

for things like gems etc

[untold saffron]

Like gems? You'll know if you get gems

[dapper prism]

same as IS event code stuff

If i recall right?

[hybrid spindle]

I just completed the achievement for 5 72h candies and I'm afraid I'll lose them when the achievement finally triggers when I'm about to leave a map

[untold saffron]

Idle skilling teehee 2 to 5 was pure pain

[dapper prism]

Dont need th5, th 3 is enough

[untold saffron]

Don't tell me that trickz

[dapper prism]

Think even th2 works

[untold saffron]

[pure ember]

Me doing idle skilling even when I don't get event items.... but the wait was the worst part

[untold saffron]

It's done now anyway

[pure ember]

For others since I haven't done it

[dapper prism]

+4 from asylum, +8 to 9 from Mope mop (lab)
So +12-13 mobs past your current stage.

[spring haven]

omg...

[untold saffron]

It's hard capped to 10 isn't it?

[dapper prism]

Yeh, the cooldowns once you reached realms was terrible

[autumn wasp]

does this multiply?

[sweet pine]

you still have 1050m before you sample right?

or accidentally lvl up bubble

i had that issue before

[autumn wasp]

maybe i used up the logs

imma just say its that and call it a day cba swapping obols again

[untold saffron]

Why not 10500m👀

[sweet pine]

that's the good old day

[hybrid spindle]

First I couldn't wait to finish crystal statues so I can switch to ES but damn is that a disappointment. My damage is way too low for him and I get like 2000 statues a day... 👀 That's gonna take ages

[untold saffron]

Is the 100 Ruby card task the last equinox task available?

[spring haven]

dudes wtf? hahaha

[dapper prism]

wrong way either way

[spring haven]

7.78 and 7.76 but nothing

[hybrid spindle]

you need to get not pay 777

[dapper prism]

"A gold bar amount that starts with"
https://i.imgur.com/Hm3ebOy.png

[hybrid spindle]

"worth a gold bar amount"

the gold bar amount is 14

[steady beacon]

Are lost batteries harder to farm than other rare drops? They're 1 in 50k, it's like pearls, but I seem to be getting waaaay less of them on my ES, with the r exact same dr

[autumn wasp]

I have to open the statue menu on each char or the levels dont update?

I deposited all on this char

[dapper prism]

doubt it, may just have to login on each alt but idk, mine shows same on all alts and i definetely didnt open the UI on all alts

but also, statues way better on toolbox

[autumn wasp]

Nah I just opened the statue man and all my levels shot up, and i resampled

wtffff I have to resample again LOL

[sweet pine]

that's not good for your sanity , trust me

[autumn wasp]

Ok when you first hit deposit all it doesnt even do all the levels, it seems like some of it is queued, you have to open the menu again to gain the rest

[sweet pine]

keychains / wing / santa hat?

[dapper prism]

Sample stuff, missing divine
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[autumn wasp]

i didnt change any gear

[sweet pine]

dang, now this is a problem

[autumn wasp]

Ok dont worry, i have like 6 chars to record this on

surely i dont fuck up all 6

[storm kelp]

I forget but why is it important to have some sailing gold on you at all times? I know it boosts something but forgot what

[tacit tulip]

there's a dmg% artifact that scales on gold but it's probably the weakest damage one (or strongest for exactly one day earlier this year)

[spring haven]

then this does not work either?

[storm kelp]

why would it not?

[tacit tulip]

I'd expect that one to work

The tears come from having 775.9 which rounds up to 776, but doesn't work

[spring haven]

is not :c

[storm kelp]

u tried?

[storm kelp]

😮

[spring haven]

I used a bottle town TP and get it