lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[burnt moth]

I absolutely hate that if you go to an island, realize you have the wrong talents, and come back it’s empty.

[runic girder]

Reasonable stopping point for cooking roadkill bubble?

[paper sail]

9150 nullos per set

[orchid ferry]

lmao i just noticed i didnt even stone it

[dapper prism]

wtf, why cactus? unless you're going for like T5 muta

[jovial bloom]

let's say i had really bad luck. 😛

[dapper prism]

And?

don't keep em

[orchid ferry]

only got 85k and still missing one troll set

[dapper prism]

85k is a lot

[orchid ferry]

and really awful weapon xD

[fathom lagoon]

85k nullo? Sheesh

[orchid ferry]

was at like 120k when i started doing my troll sets i think xD

[jovial bloom]

doesn't matter i like chemical. and i sill missing 500B for snail.

[fallen torrent]

Nuggets being over 11k natural (small ones) cause of the stacking. i cant wait for a big nugget to hit!!!

[frozen prairie]

50m incoming

[paper sail]

Reasonable is up to the user. 119% / 120% is 8290

[dapper prism]

Nawh, even 30k-40k mins are barely a few mil (depending on your current nugget)*

[fallen torrent]

4.5k natural nugget wave me 450k

so yeah maybe like 5mil?

[paper sail]

Any time now

IT > Gaming shows your nugget with the Equinox influence now

[dapper prism]

rng be rng. i had near 30k min and only got my 213k then at a 4-5k min i got the 600k+

[fallen torrent]

7 log minigame in a row... of like 5-8-12hr average.. .lovely

120 chem plants to pick up for achievement left

[runic girder]

I think our levels of reasonable are different lol

[paper sail]

Go play on the wiki for what you think is acceptable 🤷

[runic girder]

Fair enough

[dapper prism]

Rule 4. That's why im getting some slow nuggets like 31 to 32k to 183k to 216k. All legit nuggets here 😦

[fallen torrent]

yeah i mean i never did it

[dapper prism]

Just hope my luck hits sometime

[fallen torrent]

but i just wanted to make sure if it was okay or not

i didnt feel like it was okay so i didnt

[dapper prism]

but now that im at a 600k, a 1mil should be doable hopefully, unless i get fkd again xD

[heavy moth]

people got hammer already with that 😮

[fallen torrent]

ive been legit since day one the game came out soo

love this game too much ;*

[dapper prism]

Around lvl 800 is easily doable and is 110%
Think 1600 was 115% or something around there. Also doable, but main goal i would say should be the 110%

[fallen torrent]

got carrot mask 😄

[dapper prism]

OFMGOFMG

Speaking of nuggets

[paper sail]

You guys are getting mask drops?

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/2sA3KQ0.png

ROFL

[fallen torrent]

WOW NICE

[dapper prism]

a 1miller at 4k or sub 4k min.!!!!!!

[heavy moth]

the timing ahah

[dapper prism]

FFS!

[vagrant mountain]

its about time xD

[dapper prism]

This timing, wow xD

i really thought my next would be a crap 700-800k tbh

[fallen torrent]

415k, i can see a big one coming

[paper sail]

Dang, nice find

I'm hooooping for a 3m

[fallen torrent]

getting lot of logs chance too sooo

[paper sail]

I feel like 3m might be enough for me to say "Okay, enough nugget clicking"

[rough wasp]

it’ll be me soon

[clear parcel]

the boss is actually so free cuz i did it completely on my own without using the strat cuz i got 0 kills on stiltmotes 💀

[fallen torrent]

412k nugget. i wa at 415k. LUCKY ME IT DIDNT GO OVER HAHA

[dapper prism]

rofl

sorry but 417k incoming 👀

[fallen torrent]

dont say that 😦

[rough wasp]

418k

[dapper prism]

Just kidding.. 23mil incoming!!!

[orchid ferry]

did you guys just spam 0.1% chance to get chems?

[fallen torrent]

l;et me check my IE

[dapper prism]

toolbox

[fallen torrent]

OT*-

IT

ahhhh xD

[rough wasp]

yes

Saving takes too long

[orchid ferry]

its been months :'(

[fallen torrent]

10.1M possible

[muted bramble]

Cant wait for the 188

[fallen torrent]

still farming for that lantern Eldritch

is lantern dmg multi or add?

[serene solstice]

gg!

[dapper prism]

Ty, im just more amazed about the timing xD

Had to screenie the timestamps
https://i.imgur.com/oClqP0h.png

[paper sail]

I love getting the min nugget

[fallen torrent]

328 gems to get dragonic cauldron. i want it

[dapper prism]

I'll switch my min for your min..
https://i.imgur.com/xqKA47y.png

[paper sail]

Go farm gems Don't let Draconic pass you by

[muted bramble]

draconic related to nugget ?

[fallen torrent]

yeah i wont

no. lot more liquid. alchemy go BRRRRR

[dapper prism]

No, just OP cauldron

[fallen torrent]

i'll farm gems on my credit card. (joke) i dont have anything to spend xD

[orchid ferry]

Almost there!

[fallen torrent]

time to farm some colloseum 🙂

gems wise wich one is the best?

[paper sail]

Someone did the math earlier than Chizoar farming is like $2 an hour worth of gems.. Hurt my soul

[fallen torrent]

Ew haha

[paper sail]

W2 colo is best for Gems/Candy straight from the colo

However Efaunt keys are basically worthless

[orchid ferry]

lol here we go again at a 30 min fight

[fallen torrent]

i was thinking W4 for the 100 kill quest...

[paper sail]

Whereas W3 Colo + Chizoar keys = more gems, but more real time too

[dapper prism]

If it's taking you this long on an ES, you're there too early.

[orchid ferry]

ik my gear is shit

[jovial pebble]

My first ever kill took around 8 hours XD

[muted bramble]

be like me and use ES and wait for that 1 h fight

[fallen torrent]

Whut

[muted bramble]

Bubo*

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-tv-netflix-gif-13804032

[clear quartz]

8 hours on first kill? oof

[fallen torrent]

does chizoar give more gems than troll? @paper sail

[jovial pebble]

i was watching a few movies and went for a sleep before i got the kill lol

[autumn wasp]

all bosses give the same gem

[clear quartz]

to be fair i did BM last night and it took about 1.5 hours and i hated that

[autumn wasp]

its from ur w1/2 merit

[paper sail]

All bosses should give the same amount of gems

[fallen torrent]

okay so we just doing W3 for the amount of key given right

[paper sail]

Right

[fallen torrent]

imma do W4 for the key for boss for the 100 kill quest

[paper sail]

W3 Colo gives 2-3x the amount of keys per run than W4 does, and for half the colo tickets

W2 is an even better ratio, but killing efaunt on auto sucks

[dapper prism]

why is efaunt on auto bad?

[fallen torrent]

lava Ladle and egg also good

[dapper prism]

ive never had an issue with that

[paper sail]

Because 1 of any attack will kill Chizoar, Troll, Kruk

Whereas Efaunt tends to get stuck hitting the shielded head without killing all the hands, unless you use ES and wait for Chainbolt specifically

[dapper prism]

ohh sorry

mixed up efaunt with chiz

but even then efaunt is typically always fine on DK for me

or havnt tried it but maybe ES

[paper sail]

and even then, if you cast Chainbolt at the same time that you auto attack the same target, Chainbolt fizzles and you gotta wait again

From when I tested, W3-W5 were all 12-15 seconds per. Efaunt could vary up to 30 seconds based on skill timers

[autumn wasp]

just gotta be patient for the w6 class that auto attacks the whole map

[left cloak]

Hey dudes, I was doing some testing on critters with card doublers and noticed that the efficency cards (Dung & Crab) don't get doubled if you've unlocked the passive effects?? Is this intended? It feels like a bug to me...

[paper sail]

And W1 of course has the issue that auto-loot triggers too quickly and leaves half the loot on the ground

[autumn wasp]

this happens in chizoar for me too

[dapper prism]

passive cards are not doubled.

[paper sail]

Passive cards cannot be doubled.

[left cloak]

Thats so bad holyyy

[sick sentinel]

you can double chaotic troll instead

[left cloak]

it's effectively bad to get skill mastery early for trapping

[paper sail]

It does happen on Chizoar as well, but only sometimes, and only for the last 2-3 items that get thrown out. Not as bad as Amarok that misses 5-10 items every single time

[dapper prism]

was there any quest to kill the snow slush minibosses?

[sick sentinel]

i dont think so, was there one for hoggindaz maybe?

[dapper prism]

checked him rn, nope, annoying to check all the quests xD

[paper sail]

Oof, close call. Just had a 485k nugget

I am going to be so mad if I go from 511k to like 515k

[fallen torrent]

W4 collo 1 orb buff runs is like 44 gems

+162keys

and 650 ladle

[paper sail]

I think I was getting 360 keys? from w3 colo

[fallen torrent]

trying W3 now

[muted bramble]

10min on bubo so far

[paper sail]

In my experience, you end up getting slightly over 1 gem per key if you account for the boss dropping keys as well to refund initial cost

[orchid ferry]

just for you ;)
almost doubled my dmg lol

[paper sail]

The problem, obviously, is time invested. Killing twice as many bosses takes twice as long

[coral goblet]

cloud for x number of crimson boats when?

[paper sail]

pls no

Unless it is just 1.

[coral goblet]

achivement was just 1 so doubt that

[green eagle]

i stopped upgrading those boats during my sailing adventures. my achievement is my lone crimson boy

[coral goblet]

im slowly doing it now since sailing is dead

[paper sail]

I could get more, but.. eh

[dapper prism]

I'm just getting all my boats to have Speed cost about ~15m mats atm and dump secondary into loot

[muted bramble]

BRO

my game crashed at 50% hp

from the boss

[paper sail]

I just finished all boats to 119 speed upgrades minimum. Working on another round now

[autumn wasp]

u doing achievement or what?

[paper sail]

My hope is being able to get rid of Purrmep one day

[sweet pine]

now you need to do run on new boss, and maybe new PC

[dapper prism]

I just kept min speed boats on last island, and rest working its way down until speed cost reaches certain points

[paper sail]

Last I looked, which was like 2 months ago? I had 1 boat that could reach island 13, two that could reach 14, and the rest reaching 15 in my 97minute minimum time

[dapper prism]

all comes down to how many speed captains you also have

[paper sail]

But quite honestly I've turned on SB11 since then and don't check anywhere near minimum times lol

[dapper prism]

Oh same

[fallen torrent]

200 gems lefts. hehe

10 min and i got em

[dapper prism]

Woot woot you've got it!

[paper sail]

I kinda decided I'd rather have the captian exp / Sailing levels from my boats not docking, even if it costs me some treasure

[dapper prism]

Yup, 100% for now. more sail xp = more artifact chance incase we ever need it

[paper sail]

True that

Third day in a row of no Printer resets My poor atoms are suffering

[coral goblet]

yeah once i got all artifacts i turned on SB11

[gusty glade]

SB11?

[paper sail]

the Unending Loot talent

[dapper prism]

Sb tab 4 talent 11

[coral goblet]

sitting on these if theres ever a use lol

[fallen torrent]

2 72hr candy in 2 W4 colloseum

Woohoo!

2 24hr

[dapper prism]

Yup, also saved those for both sail/game on all alts xD

[paper sail]

ha, that's an interesting question

Is #11 going to start at level 1 Breeding, Sailing, Gaming?

Oh wait I can look at my alt

[dapper prism]

Nawh

[paper sail]

I had breeding levels before #10 was unlocked

[dapper prism]

Level will be the same

[quiet pewter]

level will be the same (to within lava coding)

[coral goblet]

i used the gaming ones to get evolutions but yeah makes sense to save lol

[clear quartz]

took me several days but i finally ran out of chemicals to click lol

[serene solstice]

started with 3 chemicals I love it.

[jovial pebble]

Btw what is the 4th liquid cauldron that unlocks at lvl 120 brewing?

[clear quartz]

me trying to get t6 plants probably is why my chain is broken but ah well

[sick sentinel]

placeholder, can upgrade it in the p2w tab

[clear quartz]

working the trees now meself

[jovial pebble]

Ahh ok, i will "unlock" it soon, im at lvl 111 in brewing

[paper sail]

What do I do apart from Nugget Clicker now? My chore list has become rather tiny and nothing sounds very appealing

[coral goblet]

you get to buy the boosts from the cauldren so you get a slight boost

[sick sentinel]

gt clicker

[paper sail]

Doing Nuggets until I see alch time popup, then click GT, then back to Nuggets lol

[clear quartz]

i need to work on that one soon, mine is

[sick sentinel]

clean your kitchen

[thorn marsh]

there a trick to faster nuggets?

[serene solstice]

my dk is statue farming in the background while me doing chemicals in gaming xD

[sacred verge]

working on the water regen is the thing

[paper sail]

I could/should turn mine off, good point

[sick sentinel]

chems/logs, kitsune on, hope for more chems

[orchid ferry]

HOW? My best char takes like 15 min to do it and can kill the adds on auto :(

[clear quartz]

was fully expecting people to reach a super cursed part of GT where a single lvl ends up costing more than total liquid capacity

[paper sail]

More damage 🤷

[coral goblet]

worry about it in a few weeks time of upgrades

[sacred verge]

whats ur regen at?

[orchid ferry]

dmg from alchemy i presume?

how do you start working on alchemy lol

[paper sail]

Decants are 195, 223, 225 rate respectively. Lab node is on

[sacred verge]

regen are 241, 234 and 235 here

[coral goblet]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ngmx4zl19TIIKh2w5VPwyYzl7ypDj0lqiVPdriYeFtU/edit#gid=72800316

[orchid ferry]

no acces

[coral goblet]

srry just refreshed should work now

[orchid ferry]

soo? what should i do lol

[dapper prism]

top left, do effy like 80%
Get all your important bubbles to that. Especially like Samples and stuff.
Then increase it to 85%
repeat.

[coral goblet]

work on bubbles that arent at that range it shows prioritizing anything that helps prints generally

everything kind of stacks on top of itself horizontally in this game

[dapper prism]

Also while you do that, be sure to get Larry to around 110% then Roadkill to like 800ish, Bob to around level 1k. and then whatever.

[paper sail]

Lab off

[sacred verge]

nice! you got the sigil ?

[paper sail]

No 😦

6 days to go

[sacred verge]

same, im far off

[coral goblet]

im bout the same as you lol

[paper sail]

Oh heck, I can upgrade okayer alch spd and exp

[sacred verge]

the vial gave a significant increase in speed tho. but its still slow af

[paper sail]

Yup

[coral goblet]

yeah def a place and forget thing

[orchid ferry]

how do you get there lol

[paper sail]

I even bought out the 10 gemshop upgrades for sigil speed

[sacred verge]

same

speeding up as much as possible

still takes ages

[tacit tulip]

for the first time ever I might have a bonus unlocked before the world its in

[orchid ferry]

im at like 80% and lv141 on bob and roadkill xD

[dapper prism]

Always a balance, especially early on its between Larry and Samples, and more larry and more sample bubbles

You need better sample bubbles for more atoms to be able to atom certain things later. Also better samples = easier to lvl bubbles

[orchid ferry]

sample being the large main skill bubbles? or all skill related bubbles?

[dapper prism]

No

All the skill related bubbles

Remember that multi skill stuff caps

and becomes useless at a certain point

still reach their cap though

Multi skill caps at 300%

e.g.

[serene solstice]

for the first time in my life...

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/H06olMl.png

[dapper prism]

wow very nice!

[coral goblet]

better prints = more atoms = atom upgrades = crazy cooking speed = huge account gains in basically every stat and it keeps going

[dapper prism]

But you don't need 300% since you also get % from stamps and starsigns

[paper sail]

Each of the non-LUK bubbles basically has the same sort of bubbles to look at.

1. Base Stat
2. Class is Best scaling
   2.5) Multi-gather chance bubble up until you get 300% chance
3. HP/MP scaling for Orange and Purple. Nothing for green here.
4. Tool Power (Stronk Tools, Sanic Tools, Le Brain Tools)
5. Multi-color scaling (Multorange, Premigreen, Severapurple)
6. Skill AFK (Dream of Ironfish, Fly in mind, Tree Sleeper)
7. Much lower priority, skill power per 100slab (Slabi Orefish, Slabo Critterbug, Slabe Logsoul)
8. Very low priority, base stat per 100slab (Slabi Strength, Slabo Agility, Slabe Wisdom)
   So when you look at Bubbles in IT, it'll show a percentage of their max possible strength / value. For instance my Purple2 bubble is giving 2.87 out of max possible 3, which is 93% of max strength / value.
   Multiple bubbles at 70% value likely add up to more overall account progress than a single bubble at 99% while the rest are at 40%.

[serene solstice]

11 nuggets lmfao

[dapper prism]

@orchid ferry in my bubble mat cost sheet i write what belongs to skills on the side (see pins)

[orchid ferry]

so take the whiter shit and pump it up?

[dapper prism]

Also most important is purple and orange bubbles

for skill/samples

since catching samples suck either way

[paper sail]

They are almost becoming viable lol

[dapper prism]

later on for hourly clicks, but if they dont even have proper atom collider unlocks, i feel the goal should be to get more atoms asap, for more atom clicks per day

[orchid ferry]

so these first?

so you just sample those bubbles mats and spam level?

cause my atom production is ASS

[sweet pine]

any of you guys just delete the marble after it vial lvl 13?

[tacit tulip]

I find le brain tools (mage 7) isn't that strong because of how much skilling power statues give

[dapper prism]

I did but ill probably resample to stack up on some bars

[willow drum]

free green stack?

[quiet pewter]

those bubble 3's are really important

[sweet pine]

i meant, remove from printing

not deleting from storage

[serene solstice]

I had a heart attack for a second xD

[dapper prism]

Probably also only "if" they did bean farming stuff

[dapper prism]

whats your current nug?

[serene solstice]

still the same as yesterday

[dapper prism]

oh

right

[serene solstice]

but I get really rare 1m+ nuggets

[dapper prism]

you thought it was 17m?

[serene solstice]

nah just when I saw the 2 , I was scared

xD

[paper sail]

I want to be in the cool nugget club, but wow liquid caps so fast with lab bonus off

[gray schooner]

127k to this. i'll take it. only took digging up 434 nuggets

[quiet pewter]

did you jsut pick a new topic half way through that sentance?

[dapper prism]

How do you copy paste your values into that doc easily btw? it always gets the images when i try to do the values

[orchid ferry]

i wreck the data outside of the table

[serene solstice]

uff this min nugget

[sweet pine]

wait if you accidentally messed up your lab node and you lose connection, will your overflow liquids go to cap/rate?

[paper sail]

No, I trusted you to extrapolate. Because liquid caps so fast, I have to spend more time looking at alchemy to level GT, which means less gaming clicks.

[dapper prism]

Not sure what you mean, it still messed mine up

[paper sail]

No idea. I spent mine down before disconnecting the lab

[dapper prism]

it overflows

i can confirm

[orchid ferry]

somehow going ctrl+maj+v, then ctrl+z THEN ctrl+v works
think it gets rid of the images which create empty cells

[sweet pine]

cool

[serene solstice]

I love it b2b insta fail on log

[paper sail]

I hate that log isn't at least 1 hour guaranteed

Like cmon

Shit feels real bad early on when you wait a legit day without chems and get nothing

[serene solstice]

heart attack again uff

nugget gaming is fr what I do all day now...

[fallen torrent]

got phone called. still 5min to go for dragonci cauldron

does orb count toward event boss??

[cerulean hemlock]

How many gems do you guys get on your DK?

[thin kernel]

for greenstack.. will it be "bad" to greenstack status ( if i can) to get the 200 stack for quest ?

[cerulean hemlock]

I think not?

I think the DR tables are seperate

I could be wrong though

I'm probably wrong

I am wrong I think

[dapper prism]

Not bad, that's an "easy" 5ish greenstacks, see #1084911530417606656 of Rashaken for greenstack list

[cerulean hemlock]

Yeah, orb affects it

[thin kernel]

thx

[orchid ferry]

when do you guys stop using ressources to level bubbles and just use atoms?

[dapper prism]

what event boss?

[fallen torrent]

well map event boss

Snake swarm

[cerulean hemlock]

which map

[dapper prism]

You sure.. i've heard a ton of times that it doesnt xD

[cerulean hemlock]

I mean, do you need a snake pick?

[dapper prism]

else I would have had way more than 1 drop

[cerulean hemlock]

🤣 I have no idea tbh

I'll say it doesn't

but DR in the stats does

That's my take

[dapper prism]

Technically, never. Thats why people say "hourly clicks" although i dont really ever do those.

[paper sail]

I believe orb doesn't work on Random Event bosses

[cerulean hemlock]

If I'm wrong, eradicate me

[sick sentinel]

only partying up and rando island boost drop rate of random events

[cerulean hemlock]

oh really?

[fallen torrent]

time to spam hourglass boss

[dapper prism]

Nope. neither does that from what ppl always say

[paper sail]

DR doesn't either

[cerulean hemlock]

I got like, three frog eye obols in a row

[orchid ferry]

whats hourly clicks? just having a sample cap your bank stack so you can get 1 level per hour?

[cerulean hemlock]

Ig I'm just lucky

BUT NOT THE NINE MONTH GRIND FOR CHEM

[dapper prism]

Yes, but technicalyl 2-3 levels due to larry 😉

[orchid ferry]

and sooo you use atoms on the harder ressources like anvil mat?

or rare drops. etc

[paper sail]

Yup

[orchid ferry]

hmmm

[dapper prism]

Anvil, salts, even trapping, stuff like that

[orchid ferry]

but how the fuck do you get to the stage of having sample big enough to level your bubbles lol

[paper sail]

Anvil mat, critters, souls, salts, spices, sailing

[sweet pine]

spam atom on 2nd bubbles until it looking good

[knotty urchin]

is this a good card to 5 star? my only other 5 star is normal amarok card

okiedokie

[paper sail]

It'll happen on its own.

[sacred verge]

maybe the worst card to 5* with cardifier

[fallen torrent]

AHH

[knotty urchin]

oh okay

[fallen torrent]

LOST 25 GOOGLY EYES because i missclick portal

[dapper prism]

It's probably one of the easiest to get to 10* card once released xD

[fallen torrent]

trying to basic the boss

[cerulean hemlock]

Wait a second.. That's an acutally good card

[dapper prism]

we are nearly twinsies
https://i.imgur.com/wmJbq6a.png

[green eagle]

this is a joke lmao i just reset my star talents to get rid of all the extra crit i didn't need anymore 💀

[cerulean hemlock]

Easy to craft, you'll get it in the span of another 25 days

[knotty urchin]

how do y ou get 5 star cards

[thorn marsh]

personally I'm gonna 5star this bad boy

[cerulean hemlock]

rift

[knotty urchin]

ahh

[cerulean hemlock]

FMJ best 😛

[thorn marsh]

I kid, I kid!

[orchid ferry]

so instead of oak i use the 3rd sample to level bubbles?

[dapper prism]

Let's goooo!
https://i.imgur.com/8cpm0g5.png

[thorn marsh]

I'm just kidding... 5starring this for sure

[cerulean hemlock]

You better be "kid"ing

[thorn marsh]

team regenrate

[dapper prism]

Better to do class xp! /jk
https://i.imgur.com/14cv2AH.png

[cerulean hemlock]

Class xp isn't too bad if it's multi with GT

[thorn marsh]

took me a while to notice it wasn't a chicken with a top hat

[dapper prism]

doubt it's multi.. has any class ever been multi besides the new bundle?

[cerulean hemlock]

YOU THOUGHT IT WAS A TOP HAT?

[lapis mesa]

wonder how many will turn ruby when i finally unlock, probably not nearly enough

[orchid ferry]

and what about the gshroom cap to level up all 3 2nd bubble?

[thorn marsh]

and I'm proud of it!

[orchid ferry]

you active there lol?

[cerulean hemlock]

No 😭

[cerulean hemlock]

i saw the blobylute in 1 secondd

Lava likes those black li'l critters

[thorn marsh]

I guess I just liked the idea of a chicken with a tophat

[pure ember]

9 days

[dapper prism]

time to stop with the headers

[cerulean hemlock]

I love headers

[dapper prism]

Seriously don't need that big text spam though

[paper sail]

Yet the autoloot bundle has eluded you for years

[cerulean hemlock]

It sure has

[cerulean hemlock]

You see, the rammy plush is much better than auto loot

Why?...Rammy Plush is something I can touch

Being endgame? I can't touch that at all

[serene solstice]

third one in million place and again a heart attack

[clear quartz]

grass? untouched

[lapis mesa]

oh i get the heat map thing now. my value for final mage bubble is super low since i havent gotten fast enough boats, so it was throwing the whole thing off 😄

[fallen torrent]

969 GEMS ON THE SPOT

Dragonic cauldron is mine

[cerulean hemlock]

should've gotten 6,969

[paper sail]

I'm allergic to everything out there

[cerulean hemlock]

If you want the number

[cerulean hemlock]

You're allergic to red pandas? 🥺

[clear quartz]

the first tab of that sheet i dont think i super understand, or at least the atom toggle. heat map seems to make sense but unsure of the weighting

[cerulean hemlock]

I find #endgame-gen-chat to be very brutal. Unless I roast people along with them ❤️ then it isn't too bad

[orchid ferry]

so sb stays at gmush to generate caps for the 2nd bubbles of every cauldrons?

[cerulean hemlock]

What are you NOT allergic too?

[dapper prism]

more for money multi

[orchid ferry]

yeah but sampling gmush is dumb isnt it? soo getting my 2nd bubbles to 80-85% should be done by my sb?

[lapis mesa]

vman prints an alright sample, but i think that one becomes an atom bubble

[orchid ferry]

but rn thats what its looking like (1rst is off class and 2nd is using the right class)

sooo i level them on the right class until 150 ish and then the cost will be at 100M+ on off class

[lapis mesa]

dont forget alchemy has a discount buyable, makes it easier to get to atom range

[orchid ferry]

meaning i can atoms?

[orchid ferry]

true

[lapis mesa]

so you discount on the cheap one til the off class is in atom range

[fair nest]

How did you guys beat the 4 pets in arena

To 115

[hazy portal]

If i get to w5 should i swap my BB to DK?

[fair nest]

I got to like 95

[paper sail]

Computers

[lapis mesa]

borger peapod refiller looter i think is the rec? idk im not at peapod yet

[orchid ferry]

and while farming water on bubbo, you put all chars in cauldrons or fuck that?

[paper sail]

I 10x sigils personally, but you do you

[cerulean hemlock]

And..?

[lapis mesa]

you could if you wanna min max, mine go on sigils or ill forget to put them bback

[orchid ferry]

well i still have 1 char in every cauldron

[paper sail]

index out of bounds

[cerulean hemlock]

Btw, can someone tell me: Do I kill slush with DK? The daily miniboss one. If so, should I stack #'s on my orb first?

[serene solstice]

IT NEVER ENDS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[dapper prism]

I keep bubo and vman on liquid 1 pretty permanently

[coral goblet]

new nug

[fallen torrent]

30k/100k ladles. im getting there

[coral goblet]

[serene solstice]

gg

[coral goblet]

hell yeah

[orchid ferry]

any things i shouldnt forget before starting to farm cc on bubo?

[paper sail]

I'm up to 61k ladles

[sacred verge]

36 k here 😦

[cerulean hemlock]

Stop summning me 😠

[lapis mesa]

... so many bubble and stamp upgrades, barely went up 10 mil oak logs, bleh

[dapper prism]

crystal cards, choco chip, fists, proper setup

[serene solstice]

lmfao

sry

[orchid ferry]

is there a guide somewhere?

[lapis mesa]

im sure Trickz has written several pages on the subject

should just be able to search chat log

[sacred verge]

i wish we had a counter for crystal kills

[tacit tulip]

if anyone ever wanted it, visual proof that acher arrows can't mega crit 😄

never thought to screen it before

[paper sail]

DR to highest whole odd number you can, then money cards.

[sacred verge]

im doing active exp cards

[orchid ferry]

does star even matters now that we have infinite signs?

[cerulean hemlock]

Yes

[lapis mesa]

doublers still work

[paper sail]

That's an option too

[cerulean hemlock]

There might be star signs in the future, and doublers

[lapis mesa]

or so i think ive seen told

[orchid ferry]

so it doesnt matter for me lol

[lapis mesa]

me either 😄

[sacred verge]

dont really care that much about minmaxing with money cards as i could raise money way more with some gmush (pretty freakin low onm that)

[tacit tulip]

nothing to stop you doing both tho, so it's good knowledge to have

[sacred verge]

true

[paper sail]

I just don't care about exp anymore on Bubo, so run money now

[sacred verge]

yeah

what lvl?

[paper sail]

541

[sacred verge]

i dont really care myself but why not

is that with pearls?

[paper sail]

No

[tacit tulip]

bubo just does that if you level GT

[paper sail]

Pure farming

[sacred verge]

nice

526 atm

[paper sail]

Vman eats all my pearls until 500

[sacred verge]

damn my vman is hella low

[tacit tulip]

Feels like I'm real behind on the exp curve tbh lol. My highest char is only 484

[sacred verge]

got a fairly less overall progressed account that you guys tho i believe

[tacit tulip]

not that level matters much outside of that one equinox I can't be bothered to aim for

[paper sail]

I just want to max this without feeling bad lmao

[sacred verge]

thats fairly low, considering how fast 500 is at wurms

[tacit tulip]

most of my time prior to this patch was spent on beans

[sacred verge]

all my time after this patch has been bubo at wurms

getting those liquids high af

[paper sail]

https://scoli.idleonefficiency.com/ roast me

[dapper prism]

550 DK and bubo soonish?
450-460 everyone else (450 cause of trophy)
440 BB working to 450 with crystal islands

[orchid ferry]

w5 stone or kattle kruk?

[dapper prism]

always w5 for first gears

[sick sentinel]

not a roast, just a reminder if you didnt do it yet

[dapper prism]

only kattle when you have excess to gamble away

[sacred verge]

( i know my gear sucks for quite a few chars (yes im lazy))

[paper sail]

oh shit, dashboard didn't tell me

[sick sentinel]

tho it does say this

maybe just switched

[paper sail]

[sweet pine]

wait your shrine lvl 21?

[heavy moth]

QS 😦

[dapper prism]

QS is useless 😄

[paper sail]

Bob 😦

[dapper prism]

Prove me wrong

[abstract sapphire]

How important is the dragonic cauldron?

[sacred verge]

very

[sweet pine]

im impress with 540 BIG P

[dapper prism]

Pretty decently nice. Get it if you can make it work

[abstract sapphire]

I guess all three cauldrons too, right? (Though this only goes to 1)

[dapper prism]

You just atom that to 90%

[sacred verge]

yeah

[abstract sapphire]

I gotta save up gems then :/

[paper sail]

Has been my Atom target the last few days to get 1.45x

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/yg24ZuA.png

[heavy moth]

yea saw that bob at 2.5K that absolve for the 999 QS XD

[thorn marsh]

Scoli!

[hybrid spindle]

is IE still being updated because I see nothing about equinox/islands?

[dapper prism]

Oh my, they caught you scoli!

[tacit tulip]

that slacker

[paper sail]

I thought I maxed all those lmao

[tacit tulip]

it is, but most of what islands/equinox give is explained well enough in game so doesn't have its own sections yet

[thorn marsh]

I cannot confirm nor deny that I just photoshopped it, but still!

it could very well be true

[paper sail]

Wait fuck you lmao

[tacit tulip]

the 4 new vials are added, and their effects are taken into account (such as sigil speed)

[heavy moth]

ahaha somebody hate dungeon

[thorn marsh]

made you look 😂

[hybrid spindle]

the relevant part would be in the overall tab to know when the bar is full/if you already collected the weekly stuff from islands

[sick sentinel]

we have IT for that

make the swap

[hybrid spindle]

it?

[sick sentinel]

!it

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo#2331

[paper sail]

I just bought the final dungeon weapon tier a few days ago. Was waiting to just do 1 run on each to clean up Slab

[dapper prism]

@paper sail WHY... WHY!!!! Why are your card sets all different orders or slightly different!

[hybrid spindle]

make the swap? Is it capable of the same stuff as IE?

[heavy moth]

make sens 😛 that will gives alot on slab

[paper sail]

Should be very obvious why.

[sick sentinel]

mostly just UI differences, i use both. but IT has some added stuff that i rly like especially in the dashboard

[hybrid spindle]

could you show me a screenshot so I have something to work with

[dapper prism]

once uses both ie and it, different ones have different benefits

[paper sail]

Different cards because different MK damage.. Different order because I hate you 🙂

[dapper prism]

Video of some basic quick things on IT

Was mainly just randomly clicking around on stuff tbh

[thorn marsh]

I'm honestly surprised you're using a browser and not some linux command code to do everything Trickz... 🤖

[sick sentinel]

customizable dashboard stuff on there too

[sweet pine]

@paper sail

[hybrid spindle]

Either that or your brain's working a lot faster than mine ^^

[rich robin]

where can you find info about things that are boosting exp gain and resources for world 5 skills. the wiki seems to be missing it

[paper sail]

Got it, thanks

[hybrid spindle]

what's the difference between email login and gmail login?

[sick sentinel]

https://idleoninsight.com/
helps search key words

[hybrid spindle]

like why the difference?

[paper sail]

Gmail fancier

[sweet pine]

email is something like... yahoo, Gmail is 😎

[thorn marsh]

@paper sail what's up with your chips?

[paper sail]

So my best roast was cards not consistent?

[autumn wasp]

does construction benefit from all exp gain?

[paper sail]

What do you mean?

[thorn marsh]

just have 1 equipped?

am I not understanding chips?

[paper sail]

I only have enough chips for 1 character at a time I move them between each afk claim

[fathom lagoon]

Holy crap lol

[thorn marsh]

oh, that's pretty embarrasing

[fathom lagoon]

Shit ton of work 😂

[north wren]

kitsune roxie, is it worth to have it awake or is that just bad overall?

[paper sail]

I have to change Obols anyway, not a big deal

[sweet pine]

and i thought i was a loner

[orchid ferry]

omg im fucking dumb

[thorn marsh]

how long claims you doing? every 2h?

[orchid ferry]

i forgot to put roadkill on before starting cc

[paper sail]

Hell no. Once a day

[sick sentinel]

if you check often, 100% better. also better for getting higher tier plant evos. and more plant dna to research new plants if you still need to get them all

[cerulean hemlock]

..sweats you're just as sane as I am.

I do it every 25 hours

Unless it hits the 3:00am mark

[paper sail]

Sometimes every 2 days tbh

[cerulean hemlock]

then it goes to 23 hours

[sweet pine]

you guys burned out atm?

[cerulean hemlock]

Imagine AFKing for 24 hours... Couldn't be me.

[cerulean hemlock]

I'VE PLAYED SINCE FEBURARY ELEVENTH, 2021, I'M NOT GONNA BURN OUT ANYTIME SOON

I'm burnt out.

Give me a match please.

[thorn marsh]

can't burn out when we're only midgame!

[sweet pine]

can't i burned out 4 months ago

[cerulean hemlock]

I want green damage

I want green damage

[orchid ferry]

how often do you guys cc on average?

[fathom lagoon]

Oh not bad at all then lol

[paper sail]

375k, no rift slug

[fathom lagoon]

Whenever I remember to

[cerulean hemlock]

How was td wave 50?

Was my advice helpful?

[dapper prism]

March 11th here 😄

[thorn marsh]

@paper sail now this is just slacking

[fathom lagoon]

Haven’t attempted yet, just resampled everything yest and called it a night

[dapper prism]

afk

[orchid ferry]

wait should I not active on bubo to reset its cooldown faster?

[cerulean hemlock]

Do it 😦 I gave you the huge list for a reason

[paper sail]

caught in 4k

[sweet pine]

mine 7 days after first valentine event

[muted slate]

you should, should go to like 1 in 10 mins or something

[fathom lagoon]

Check me out tho

[cerulean hemlock]

Scoli isn't lazy, he's just dedicating his time to things more productive

[fathom lagoon]

One step at a time, TD next lol

[cerulean hemlock]

*now 😉

[fathom lagoon]

After work today lol

[thorn marsh]

he literally has to produce things... how can that not be productive?! 😂

[orchid ferry]

well, ill see, its been like 2-3 min already i think

[cerulean hemlock]

Shh.. there's always.. time travel.

[serene solstice]

alright need a break its food time...

[paper sail]

What a dad

[cerulean hemlock]

Sugar free time travel

[serene solstice]

looking scary to me

[sweet pine]

dont, my 7:00 pm daily now is 7:15

[cerulean hemlock]

You might think this is just a normal post BUT.

[paper sail]

Wish I had 4 more

[cerulean hemlock]

But the dude needs mental help.

[paper sail]

I rolled back from 10pm to 8pm. Would love 7pm

[thorn marsh]

not a bad one

[cerulean hemlock]

You know, my reset time is still the same

1:30pm I think

I'd like to keep it that way

[thorn marsh]

mine's 8:10pm

[cerulean hemlock]

or get it to 12;00, that way every new day is an actually new day

[orchid ferry]

how do you recover cd so fast?

[thorn marsh]

killing things

[muted slate]

high tent level

[paper sail]

Yeah 10m is nutty

I was 15m last I timed

[orchid ferry]

too low?

[muted slate]

i havent timed it in a while but also crystal chance

[cerulean hemlock]

we kill things?

[fervent brook]

Has anyone used the golden watch yet while the event has been active? Curious about the results.

[green eagle]

i'm such an idiot. why did it take me until reading IT/IE to see that the marble ore from equinox turns into a vial?

[cerulean hemlock]

Don't you mean we violate the Geneva Convention daily to get more gains on colore drops of water?

[thorn marsh]

sorry, we put things to sleep ❤️

[green eagle]

at least he didn't make that bar a vial

[cerulean hemlock]

Shh... We wake them up too

[cerulean hemlock]

Bonus day

[thorn marsh]

I guess we technically do with bubo

[paper sail]

We just make them faint.

[cerulean hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-dizzy-gif-20588410

[cerulean hemlock]

We shoot em with a tranquilizer nail (from the gloves)

[thorn marsh]

@paper sail one last and I'm done

[cerulean hemlock]

I feel like archer is the worst class. why? Has to carry an infinite amount of arrows at all times

[orchid ferry]

priority?

[thorn marsh]

nuggies

[sweet pine]

nugg

[paper sail]

You lil' troll

[cerulean hemlock]

Slow roast get to 1 first imo

[orchid ferry]

you guys are degenerate gamblers lol

[fervent brook]

Nug, TD, Killroy, then damage.

[cerulean hemlock]

Wdym?

[thorn marsh]

oh shit it actually IS grey

[muted slate]

nugg is reducing the gamble from before tho

[thorn marsh]

hahaha, wasn't even trying to troll

my bad ❤️

[fervent brook]

Was not sure if Lava put in code that did not reset Event counters when using the watches lol.

[orchid ferry]

WHERE IS MY 0.0000000000002 BOX?!

[paper sail]

I'm surprised nobody roasted me for the Spike Minigame achievement

[cerulean hemlock]

Look away buddy. Look away.

[cerulean hemlock]

Why no Spike minigame Achievement?

[thorn marsh]

dude, I went there 1 time and never been there ever since

[paper sail]

Same. I've been there 1 time ever.

[cerulean hemlock]

i went there.. THRICE!

[fervent brook]

If it was a daily thing you can do at anytime I might have gone there more.

[cerulean hemlock]

Ikr

Lava likes giving you options: Baba Yaga
Or Spiketrap

[thorn marsh]

I chose neither

[cerulean hemlock]

I like how the gem dissapears, nice little detail

[cerulean hemlock]

Same here

[paper sail]

Y'all nasty

[cerulean hemlock]

Ayo we don't need it

[paper sail]

I'm weak. I need it

[cerulean hemlock]

Baba can die of old age, we don't care

[cerulean hemlock]

Say you're weak again.

[paper sail]

I'm weak, not even T damage 😦

[thorn marsh]

low T

[green eagle]

tbh i wouldn't redo the TDs until you have that one maxed. why bother lol

[cerulean hemlock]

@rugged spindle is closer than you

[rugged spindle]

why do you keep pinging me in here

[cerulean hemlock]

It's been the first time in the past 2 weeks

[fervent brook]

I got all Boss and Event cards to 5 star now. I have the fish cards all maxed too so don’t have to worry about that nightmare.

[rugged spindle]

its annoying

[green eagle]

he actually just materializes the arrows as he draws his bow 😛

[cerulean hemlock]

Woah.. he has a boon?

[vivid radish]

anyone got a hotbar recommendation for barb? neglected that guy in the kitchen and gotta rebuild lol

[cerulean hemlock]

He stays in the kitchen...

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

In progress guide to everything about Idleon. Has builds and explanation on early mechanics
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BpkkUGPSznTOvEMenognPllGvjTchAkcvHUKqrcu64/edit?usp=drivesdk
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[vivid radish]

[vivid radish]

mans gotta zow

[fading cape]

If you're just using Barb for AFK zowing you just put all active on the toolbar and use strength + and heart skill before going afk

[hybrid spindle]

I just got the 25% golden ball companion. Is there any other reason I should wait dumping my arcade balls?

[sinful aurora]

Dont think so

[hybrid spindle]

Then I better start praying for a stamp finally

[sinful aurora]

You'll get 3 doots before you get 1 of those stamps.

[hybrid spindle]

then I'm in trouble

but I'll also take the black pickle

[orchid ferry]

what for?

slab?

[hybrid spindle]

👀

the vial

[quartz torrent]

billion

[sinful aurora]

That's more reasonable. Gl you can get it.

[hybrid spindle]

we'll see...I only got 2700 balls

[orchid ferry]

forgot it existed

[slender sandal]

the real endgame vial

level 2 ball pickle

[cerulean hemlock]

I'm going to be honest, I like the falloween hats, since now I can tell who is who!
1st dude is Gandalf...
2nd dude is bedsheet...
3rd dude is bedsheet..
4th dude is bedsheet...
5th dude is bedsheet...
6th dude is bedsheet...
7th dude is boaty...
8th dude is bedsheet...
9th dude is bedsheet...
10th dude is bedsheet...

[sinful aurora]

Dont give lava ideas

[cerulean hemlock]

Shh... lava won't want a level 2 ball joe pickle.. He wants a level four ball joe pickle..

[hybrid spindle]

like the normal pickle vial was such a great idea -.-

[cerulean hemlock]

Omar likes stealing em too

[hybrid spindle]

people that haven't bought them in the first place have to wait 100 days....

beautiful when the last area before jackpot gives you a balloon lmao

[cerulean hemlock]

I hate it whenever I get that

I'd rather get two boaties.

[hybrid spindle]

2 times I got a ball there now and 1 hat 1 balloon...

[cerulean hemlock]

I'm preparing now

[hybrid spindle]

where are my gems!?

[cerulean hemlock]

ikr

We need gems more, now than ever!

[hybrid spindle]

also, even if the dice appears in the later areas you still start with the same amount of balls

[prisma moss]

finally...

whats the next big boost for sailing after that>

[cerulean hemlock]

Do we tell him?

[hybrid spindle]

can you just nto click on a dice in the hopes that you dont get that reward anymore as long as it is there?

[plucky yarrow]

Yo wsp

So, remember my problem with the starter pack?

I thinks is fixed

Thanks allmigthy lava

I have one question tho

I know the gems are daily but are the card packs too

[glacial venture]

nope

[plucky yarrow]

Then its not fixed

[glacial venture]

maybe full inventory?

[plucky yarrow]

Im responding to wrong message 🤦

[plucky yarrow]

I dont think so i hopped on a character with like 7 slots left

[fluid tinsel]

Is magma helmet better than divine?

[dapper prism]

why is it not fixed?

[dapper prism]

sometimes, sometimes not

[dapper prism]

Magma better for sample.
Kattle top+legs with Magma head+feet better for the afk gain.
Kattle head+feet with Magma top+legs better for active DR/dmg

Essentially you would mix and match depending on what you are doing (afk kills vs active DR type of stuff)

[glacial venture]

for skilling magma

[plucky yarrow]

Its supposed to give card packs too

[dapper prism]

not daily..

[glacial venture]

for mostly afk ones divines in most cases better

[viral snow]

Not daily

[plucky yarrow]

Thats the problem

[dapper prism]

like, youve never gotten them?

to me starter pack was misleading too. thought you would get the insta 1750 gems and 350/day for the 5 days. not that the daily gems are 1750.

https://i.imgur.com/VNXHDQa.png

[hybrid spindle]

alright, let's see....2700 balls gave me 12k golden balls, 650 gems, no stamp, no pickle, just balloon garbage and 30 hours of candy

can't say I'm particularly satisfied with that :/

[dapper prism]

Typical bad average seems to be ~4-5k arcade coins per 1k balls.

[cerulean hemlock]

Yeah, you should've gotten 1k gems

[hybrid spindle]

great

[cerulean hemlock]

i usually get one gem per 3 pachinko spheres

[green eagle]

just realized i used a bunch of candy with rucksack on. 💀

[hybrid spindle]

I was one off from a jackpoint and got a ballon instead WHOOP WHOOP

[plucky yarrow]

Yes

[hybrid spindle]

that's how rewarding this crap is

[cerulean hemlock]

It's free ig

Whddya expect

[hybrid spindle]

you haven't played idle skilling I suppose ^^

That's what I want

[dapper prism]

check IE/it and check everyones inventory before contacting lava again.
May have gotten the gem bundle stuff while switching to alts and its in a random inventory maybe?

[plucky yarrow]

Gonna check on all my characters

[glacial venture]

did you have card packs before?

[cerulean hemlock]

^^ all I have is web.

[hybrid spindle]

web?

[dapper prism]

browser version

[hybrid spindle]

that's still idle skilling if you're talking about that

and it should have arcade

[cerulean hemlock]

I meant I only play on web

[prisma furnace]

Is it intended that CC doesn't seem to activate if you have full Liquids?

[dapper prism]

it should

[hybrid spindle]

I don't get your point

[prisma furnace]

I have been watching it for a while now I keep having to activate it manually

[hybrid spindle]

what does the platform have to do with arcade?

[cerulean hemlock]

Wdym I haven't played with IS?

[paper sail]

Do you have Syringe or Energy Bolt on your bar?

[cerulean hemlock]

Don't you need steam?

[hybrid spindle]

no, you don't

it's an android game too and I think it even has a web version

[cerulean hemlock]

One moment

[hybrid spindle]

at least it had it at some point, not sure if it's still being updated

I think I remember web being discontinued but I could be wrong

[paper sail]

The crossover event is Steam-only

[cerulean hemlock]

OOH WHOO!

[prisma furnace]

I have CC, Raise Dead, Aura, Spirit, Chemical, skull

in that order

[hybrid spindle]

my point is that the same arcade is from Idle Skilling with the difference that the rewards there are actually good/useful and the amount of balls you get each day depend on tasks, not some rng drop from arcade itself

[dapper prism]

remove skull

[prisma furnace]

Done :p

[dapper prism]

although thats not the cause

[cerulean hemlock]

ah

[hybrid spindle]

It's an amazing game. The art is lacking when compared to IdleOn but that's to be expected because it's older but you can play through this entire game without spending a dime because you get a reasonable amount of gems for a daily effort

[paper sail]

IS is god awful compared to IdleOn

Don't lie

[dapper prism]

at least idleon doesnt have the basketball minigame xD

[cerulean hemlock]

Gem portal must be busted

[plucky yarrow]

Nope, i def have none card pack

[hybrid spindle]

what exactly are you comparing? art? alright, I can give you that

[paper sail]

I can't think of a single system in IS that I like over IO's system

[hybrid spindle]

what's wrong with that? you gotta practise like every other minigame with the difference that you could actually get dozens of gems from it each day

[dapper prism]

Game design, game mechanics, game progress. everything is essentially a bit broken in some way, UI and user friendly mechanics, its all a bit eh

Too many unlocks that break other stuff essentially "dont play the game except realm till goose, then you essentially have inf money in IS" kinda thing due to the huge money multis

[clear quartz]

we have sideways basketball tho

[hybrid spindle]

well...the broken parts admittedly are part of its charm. But that's the same in IdleOn. I'm not sure how early on you started playing IdleOn but the stuff we broke in the beginning was hilarious. It's definitely less than Idle Skilling but in lava games you can always expect jank

[paper sail]

I hated everything about Realm / Afterlife (which worries me, because it is the newest content he put out. If he does that shit in IO, I quit.)

[dapper prism]

I played IS for 2ish weeks, then my whole smithing UI broke, no clue how/why even reinstalling the game didnt fix it. after some months it just worked again..

[azure spindle]

realm was fine until it got fixed

[hybrid spindle]

I have to give you that. The realm update sucks....I don't think it fits the game anymore and it's by far the most jank mechanic. Before that it was very consistent and the jank was at least enjoyable to some degree

[azure spindle]

it was a fun final hurrah type thing that scaled faster than intended but worked fine, post patch became unplayable

[dapper prism]

only time i could see that happen is after w8, for replayability in some way

[paper sail]

Bricking my save file is not charming.

[dapper prism]

Eh, scales more than just faster than intended. "From struggling artist looking for money" to "Hey, i'm Bezos"

[clear quartz]

no prestiging in idleon, although IS prestiging was quickly kinda worthless so not like its something that was well implemented there

[hybrid spindle]

well, you somehow stayed after the doot fiasco. At least in my book, that's a lot worse than realm ^^

[clear quartz]

i guess ice creams were neat, but eh

[paper sail]

Realm made the game literally unplayable

Companions just.. gave me some buffs I didn't have before 🤷

[hybrid spindle]

that's something that would be fixed in IdleOn though

lava can't afford to have that in his main game

[azure spindle]

I think if anything the problem wasn't the mechanic but rather when you got access to it since it invalidated the progression route you were previously suppose to do, if you accessed realm near end if not end of game then it was just an additional thing to do

and would be self contained

[hybrid spindle]

but in Idle Skilling it didn't really matter. It gave his old game one last push, made him a bunch of money and since he doesn't need to pay for servers he can now leave it to rot

[azure spindle]

but lava wanted it to work with event so probably lowered entry requirements

[clear quartz]

i think entire IS with realm was completable in like 2 months i think? maybe a bit less

[dapper prism]

less

[clear quartz]

unsure what progression was back in the day. i remember playing IS back before anything super new, like i think lunar isles release was when i stopped

[dapper prism]

once i had realm unlocked and worked on it, took around 2-3 weeks to get to TH16

[clear quartz]

and feel like i had played it for several months back then

[dapper prism]

and 1-2 of those weeks were pushing Realm

[hybrid spindle]

if that's how you see it, what stops lava from charging you 1000 bucks for a 1% increase in stats? After all, it's just another buff that you didn't have before. ^^

[paper sail]

He can charge what he wants. I decide if it is worth it not.

I truly could not care less how other people choose to spend their money.

[hybrid spindle]

that's the problem, most would say it's not worth it for 1% but unfortunately you don't have that with doot

it's pay a bunch of money for a HUGE advantage and without it you can't even compete with others anymore

[paper sail]

That's your take. I am doing just fine without Doot.

[hybrid spindle]

I'd be less bothered by it if I could give him like 20 bucks for at least one permanent god thingy active

[clear quartz]

dooty has me acting most unwise, considered shelling out more cash for the gamba, but i resisted

[azure spindle]

I think realm from IS realistically has the same problems that idleon does with new worlds and updates. You're intended to progress at a certain speed once you've gotten strong enough to progress enter a new world, gain new skill and new ways to get stronger. But with new mechanics like rift, equinox, dungeons, pets, etc the speed which you can reach furthest possible areas is distorted. I don't think it's bad to have the mechanics but it skews the perception on a lot of things

[quartz turtle]

whats realm?

[azure spindle]

from idle skilling

[paper sail]

I am no worse off than before the update. I have all but 2 of the companions, which means the patch just gave like 8 buffs to me. Neat.

[quartz turtle]

oh..... played that game to exhaustion but no proper save f.d me over so not gonna finish things again :/

[hybrid spindle]

but once you start using money for companions you might as well go all the way until you have doot ^^ everything in between is just unrewarding if you spend like 100 bucks and still don't have him.
Adding to that some old statements from lava about pay2win makes my blood boil

[dapper prism]

Let's gett backkk to World 5 and the lovely game of Nugget collection!

[clear quartz]

i think thats a tough thing with adding new content to a game, makes retroactive balancing tricky

[dapper prism]

Making me what? 😄

[hybrid spindle]

alright, I trippled my nugget today

[azure spindle]

I think that's the other better part for IS, at least the shop does scale rediculously in it

[hybrid spindle]

that's why you either have to introduce a new mechanic late enough or make it scale very slowly. Introducing something op too early can compromise the entire game

[hybrid spindle]

better part and it scales rediculously? aren't those 2 opposites? 👀

[clear quartz]

or it has to be unlocked by previous stuff positioning its effect where it wont break progression

[coral goblet]

Real question is what could companion set 2 “doot” will be 🤔

[clear quartz]

troll for the lulz

[dapper prism]

Cant attack this doot, anyone know why? 😉
https://i.imgur.com/AhzgBvH.png

[hybrid spindle]

doesn't matter. He could literally take any mechanic and add zeros until it's op enough

[dapper prism]

Daddy doot brought baby doot to work:
https://i.imgur.com/BLlleGH.png

mhm 72h candy, nice 😮 (81h in total from a single kill)

[clear quartz]

hahaha

[azure spindle]

was meaning that as far as I can recall, items that required multiple purchases didn't increase in price stupidly and you could earn gems quite reasonable whereas idleon has a bad problem with shop scaling and availability and while still having grindable gems is less potent than IS was

[hybrid spindle]

but considering that it shouldn't interfer with people buying chips for example I don't think it will be related to that. Unless of course it's doubles/tripples all chip effects ^^

[clear quartz]

expanded chip library/slots

[azure spindle]

the slots are fine, chip rotation is the real problem

[dapper prism]

Companion doublers
Nugget doublers
Sailing speed doublers.
Anything doublers would work

[clear quartz]

well i mean the doot2.0, giving double the slots to use and update adding that also adding more chip varieties and yeah, i hate rotation

[barren otter]

ill take a "double my current greenstack total doubler" tys

[clear quartz]

or something insane like phantom card lvls

[wet sky]

For doing ZOW for cooking on BloodBerserker does the Fibers of Absence Prayer (+% kills for deathnotes and portals // - %total damage) increase hte number of kills counted?

[dapper prism]

Stamp cost reduction 😦

[coral goblet]

Damage alone wouldn’t be anything as valuable as doot

[dapper prism]

1 free stamp upgrade a day

[azure spindle]

give me a gem that gives me a sailing upgrae like 1/month

[clear quartz]

stamp prestige system

[dapper prism]

Like the kitchen etc. Lowest ship stats get upgraded daily xD

[carmine hearth]

The only thing that should matter to f2p players is can you get through the game enjoying the ride.

Nothing in this game currently presents a challenge even close to requiring king doot, or 90% of the cash shop. People are just mad that somebody else has something they don't need

[azure spindle]

yeah that's also a decent idea

was more thinking of artifact grinding

we need more mechanics that enable afk play

[dapper prism]

more mechanics that remove RNG*

[azure spindle]

rather than punishing it for not being the optimal play

[clear quartz]

more afk punish, active player supremacy

[hybrid spindle]

I'm not sure how fast things scale in the gem shop but they do scale....something I never liked. BUT the big difference is that with little effort you could farm a decent amount of gems in the game. (Lategame of course, in the beginning you'd still be quite short of gems) Something that's absolutely not the case here. I can theoretically farm infinite gems now but at what price. Since automating shit is forbidden, I have to farm 1000 bosses for 400 gems (iirc the odds were 40% for a gem) That takes hours for a gem shop item, gives me carpal tunnel, and makes me rather quit the game than go through with it :/ As for the daily gem minigame....it's rng, gives little rewards AND you have to do it at a specific time (I have no clue why people can't do it whenever they want). And you can reasonable get like 6 something gems from alchemy. Considering that most purchases in gem shop tend to go more and more towards the 1k mark, that's more or less 100 days of daily alchemy purchases for 600 gem purchase.

[coral goblet]

A lot of people done with sailing… so if a companion was for sailing daily / slow upgrade… make you think there’ll be a cloud for X number of crimson ships

[wet sky]

I've been playing with some of my friends for a while in the game we were all relatively close and one of us dropped money for doot, completely eclipsing everyone else in progress. While it might not be something we "need" it certainly feels worse not having when you are playing with a group of friends lol

[dapper prism]

theres a gemshop calculator doc to see how things scale
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U3zxMn-tcQE504aObTmsKKnBycYp-Fud_Kl6vmj0poM/edit#gid=333563771

[azure spindle]

sounds like we're more or less in the same vein of thought here, agree wholeheartedly about the gem grind

[paper sail]

Warms my heart to see someone else share my tool

[carmine hearth]

So either your friend got lucky, or he specifically decided he didn't want to play in the same league as you guys anymore

Everyone gets, effectively, 100+ free pet crystals a week. You will get doot eventually

[hybrid spindle]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you should get hundreds of gems a day for no effort because lava has to somehow make money but when I see those +x% bonuses you can only get from gem packs I'm less and less satisfied with the daily gems and the effort needed to get them.

[azure spindle]

oh yeah, the pack only bonuses are a rough thing that got added, like the 20% dr multi, part of the big appeal I found in this game was that everything felt achievable, even the gem shop, but you could pay real money to make the progress, thought that was a great system. Unfortunately it's been geared towards more p2w nowadays and is cheapening the grinding mindset a bit

[barren otter]

what are we paying to win for

[carmine hearth]

That's fair. I never really liked the packs giving large bonuses for money

[runic token]

Any glaring issues here? I'm currently just pumping grind time.

[dapper prism]

The hardcore PVP and Leaderboards!

[barren otter]

all of it

[runic token]

what should I focus then?

[barren otter]

almost every single skilling bubble is low

should get purple and orange skilling bubbles to min 85%

[azure spindle]

bob needs work

[barren otter]

also your CC bubble is low

[hybrid spindle]

we're paying so we don't have to grind the event each day

[barren otter]

and id imagine your rate/hr is low so pushing GT would kinda be pointless soon since itll be so slow

[dapper prism]

grind the event daily?

[runic token]

I've also been pushing CC, it was much lower

[polar light]

It's like 10 minutes of active afking not much of a grind

[azure spindle]

I mean pets was a big one, the bundles that have specific passive bonuses was another. While not all bundles are op they are indicative of a potential trend and we have had 1-2 that did give rediculous bonuses. That's just to list a couple things

[hybrid spindle]

the event currency you can buy in the gem shop ^^ I just heard it from someone that people pay to not have to play the event and I found it funny.

[dapper prism]

Nobody pays to not do the event, people pay to get all the extra goodies

[left atlas]

How do you maximize your plunderous mob kills?
It's painfully slow

[dapper prism]

The even besides the 5mins of quests is just passive treats daily without doing anything

[dapper prism]

you got the vman eclipse talent up for guaranteed spawns?

[left atlas]

yes

[sick sentinel]

Thats pretty much it, besides killing more mobs. Crystals drop coins too so those help a little bit

[dull quail]

Anyone have the nugget times handy?

[dapper prism]

Nugget Spawn times:
https://i.imgur.com/F342ytY.png

[dull quail]

Ty so much

[dapper prism]

But also, IE/IT should show the time until next nugget.

[hybrid spindle]

DR doesn't affect the drops from the event thingies does it?

[dull quail]

Just trying to do a little math and optimize claims as best I can

[dapper prism]

Always let chems get to T5

[dull quail]

Specifically for the nuggies throughout the workday

Lol

[dapper prism]

Also remember, if u click the shovel early, it resets the time to 0

[hybrid spindle]

so if you click the shovel without a nugget spawning, it still resets?

[dapper prism]

correcdt

[hybrid spindle]

🤦‍♂️

[dapper prism]

if timer was at 59mins and you click it. Rip and 1h for the next

[serene solstice]

I was down to 2..............

[dapper prism]

whats your cycle speed at?

[serene solstice]

1.5

[dapper prism]

Ah nice

just got mine to show 1.6 earlier 😄

Also shovel at 350% flat
https://i.imgur.com/Ht3xHAq.png

[hybrid spindle]

do you guys constantly use the cat?

[dapper prism]

Always on for easy t5's chems = easy cycling through chem trains, more logs, more time skips, more water to get more chems.

More chems = more nuggets = higher nugget

[serene solstice]

damn

[hybrid spindle]

about my earlier question > does dr affect drops from event currency?

[dapper prism]

Not the loot from it

Not a mob

Dr probably affects you getting your 100 daily treats faster though. But not what's inside the treat

[prisma moss]

how did you break into green bits?

[dapper prism]

E24 is red bits

[prisma moss]

ikik im stuck at Q white....

[serene solstice]

dude trickzy I am not getting really high nuggets should I be afraid of it or be happy? xD

[dapper prism]

Show your superbits

[hybrid spindle]

no matter where you're stuck now, the easiest way to improve is nugget now I think

[dapper prism]

Lots of smalls then big boiii showing up

[hybrid spindle]

Unless you're about to unlock a new import of course

[dapper prism]

You stack your achievements yet?

[prisma moss]

i have 148

[serene solstice]

but it does look bad for a really big nugget

[hybrid spindle]

what does that mean? stacking achievements?

[prisma moss]

getting all of them

i also kinda just got a big nugget -> 1600x

[hybrid spindle]

for what? is there a bonus that scales with the amount of achievements?

[dapper prism]

You got chems?

https://i.imgur.com/nOr5Omz.png

[prisma moss]

nwhat that is

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/3huQgF3.png

[hybrid spindle]

lmao that's the first one....I never even paid attention to that