lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[azure spindle]

Isaac, have you been unlocking bubbles on bubo?

[hybrid spindle]

anyways....2000 shield statues and I can move on

[ruby yarrow]

Nope 😎

[azure spindle]

omg

[hybrid spindle]

that's the wrong smiley to go with that answer

[ruby yarrow]

🤩

[hybrid spindle]

it's not getting better

[azure spindle]

so bubo's have a skill that give much higher bubble unlock chance, have that leveled and use bubo when unlockign bubbles

[ruby yarrow]

🥴

[hybrid spindle]

better

[ruby yarrow]

😇

[azure spindle]

@dapper prism help

[ruby yarrow]

NO

I don’t need help😎

😤

[azure spindle]

he needs jesus

[ruby yarrow]

😇

[azure spindle]

or to go see the rabbits

one of the two

[ashen marsh]

this worth to buy?

[hybrid spindle]

I'd love to switch to ES but I need to wait like 2 days until i get enough max talent books, so I'm comfortable using him

[azure spindle]

I've heard if you want candy it's pretty good

[heavy moth]

yea great candy

[hybrid spindle]

it'll cost you roughly 3000 gems because you get like 1000 back + quite a bit of candy

[ruby yarrow]

I’ll check if I can make a new bubble

With bubo

I sure hope that the rates will be high enough

[dapper prism]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

Loot of maxed purchase ^

[ashen marsh]

😚

[azure spindle]

Trickz, Isaac hasn't been using bubo for alchemy... like at all

[ruby yarrow]

From time to time

[muted bramble]

give me a min ill do it too

ill buy all and charge the loot

[dapper prism]

Yeh, i'm done. To me it's not the "help what should i focus on next" but more the "help I havnt touched any game mechanic, what do i do" and it's like.. actually start playing the game and do the actual basics if you care, or just do whatever at this point

[ruby yarrow]

It’s just a game

[azure spindle]

fair enough, sorry for pinging you earlier and dragging you back then

I mean I understand where he's coming from

[dapper prism]

I get both sides

[ashen marsh]

is this completely random? or does opening it on a specific class influence the gold food received?

[muted bramble]

Here my loot

[lilac path]

For afk fighting what food would be best to hv on when u hv 6 food slots

[dapper prism]

RNG, but sometimes best to split stacks into smaller ones so you dont end up with 180/180 crap ones xD

[ashen marsh]

TRUUU

[muted bramble]

Actually the format it send is triggering me let me repost the screenshot

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/NfZAm7v.png
replace xp pot with my 2nd row (also depends on class and/or quickslap level)

[muted bramble]

There the 1000 halloween loot

[dapper prism]

Now just oragnize them nicer in order

[muted bramble]

i hate you sometimes

[lilac path]

Where do u farm the smaller exp pot u hv

[azure spindle]

make them even more chaotic in next image

[ruby yarrow]

I do touch some game mechanics also…

[dapper prism]

think they are just from lvl up and some rare stuff, so thats on my BB for crystal island kills

[hybrid spindle]

and count the candy

[muted bramble]

there you go

[ruby yarrow]

[hybrid spindle]

now count

[muted bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/ree-pepe-triggered-angry-ahhhh-gif-13627544

[azure spindle]

why aren't the glublin masks together?

and the bloque masks

[muted bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/im-literally-going-to-go-home-and-just-die-nufo-im-exhausted-im-so-tired-i-need-to-go-home-gif-23008451

[dapper prism]

added you to the list 😄
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

I called you someone

For not counting the candy that Shadow so nicely pointed out

Just kidding, adding your name x3

[muted bramble]

imagine

[hybrid spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lazy-feeling-your-pain-gif-14497432

[muted bramble]

i got seniority on you in this game

[gaunt shale]

I also want ghost mask

[muted bramble]

i got like double your hours i think

[ruby yarrow]

Also why are the fishing pearls not with the other pearls?

[hybrid spindle]

nananah, aint anybody more senior than me

[dapper prism]

Damn Isaac joining the burns

[muted bramble]

u know what

[dapper prism]

Yes, explain yourself Adesi!

[muted bramble]

here is the peak performance build for W5

have fun with it

[azure spindle]

thie chaos is unacceptable do it again

[azure spindle]

it's beautiful

[muted bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/its-all-about-sending-a-message-aggressive-make-sure-they-know-frank-murphy-f-is-for-family-gif-16471435

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/precious-gif-26557642

@muted bramble nice ring(s)

[ruby yarrow]

I’m like one of the most efficient player out there

[muted bramble]

yep

[muted bramble]

you cant even be near my lvl

my alchemy is so efficient i got bubbles and stuff in the single digit

like that means world rank ?

right ?

[ruby yarrow]

I’m better

[dapper prism]

Isaac is so good, he has some bubbles that are Rank 1

[azure spindle]

my gear is so efficient that most of my characters use skilling gear while fighting since it gives more damage

[zealous niche]

https://tenor.com/view/sanford-fred-heart-attack-nervous-gif-24657978

[muted bramble]

Top 1 in the world baby

top that

[ruby yarrow]

You mean most of?

[azure spindle]

no most at level 0 since you haven't unlocked them

[hybrid spindle]

admittedly, mine is the same ^^ I just haven't unlocked that garbage yet

[ruby yarrow]

True

Sorry for my mistake

[azure spindle]

damn, I literally just finally got to level this like 2 days ago

[muted bramble]

here i present my second exhibit for the jury

[jagged gate]

Can anyone explain or link me to a resource on how to read this output from cogstruction? In the readme on github it doesn't explain what the letters/symbols mean for what cogs

[dapper prism]

Hey now.. I have a lvl 1 too
https://i.imgur.com/AHCEUnK.png

[hybrid spindle]

500k/5 👀

CLICK THAT BUTTON!

[muted bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-joker-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-18201880

[dapper prism]

Let me find my Phd in Cogtimizing xD

[muted bramble]

my cogs look like this and i havent looked at them in the last year or so

[hybrid spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-pleas-help-oh-no-gif-25461814

[muted bramble]

actually made them with Tricks in a vc at some point i think

[azure spindle]

just do something like this

[dapper prism]

C stands for Cog
O stands for Oh no, another Cog
V stands for Very nice, a cog!
E stands for Ehhyy, look at that cog!
X stands for X-cog (the one you left behind)

@jagged gate

[ruby yarrow]

This is how good I am

[hybrid spindle]

that looks beautiful

[azure spindle]

not mine, from the old idleon guide that got deleted

[hybrid spindle]

got deleted?

[muted bramble]

not lvling "Level Up Gift" should be on the same lvl as a capital offence

[azure spindle]

the dootpocalypse

[muted bramble]

I remember those days

[crisp silo]

Doot purge

[muted bramble]

the food was scarce

[ruby yarrow]

I don’t use it

[muted bramble]

and the friendlies even more

[dapper prism]

Remember, it's all about having XP cogs, and directional wants player XP so it's fine if it has no base xp
https://i.imgur.com/M8E5mqN.png

[ruby yarrow]

I got to go everyone

[muted bramble]

what is that total looking like ? Tricks

[ruby yarrow]

😭

[dapper prism]

Good luck and have fun on your journey

[jagged gate]

cogstruction uses a genetic algorithm to just tell me what the best possible cog setup is... unfortunately i don't know how to read the output 😦

[azure spindle]

I'm just praying for the day when I can atom carpenter after enough nblb hits it

[ruby yarrow]

Thank you, you too!

[dapper prism]

could just use cogtimizer and go by images, goes images are easy. But also, it's whatever at the end, you want to max that xp

[muted bramble]

i dont even use atom

thats beneth me

[hybrid spindle]

so it's a mix of xp/br setup? I still got that switcheroo thing

[azure spindle]

is it beneath or above since you can't atom yet?

[ruby yarrow]

Ill get king doot in the next free roll watch

[dapper prism]

No, no BR, JUST XP

ALL XP

And plzx fix that layout o.o

those cog sites only think short term

[hybrid spindle]

?

[ruby yarrow]

I’ll try to remember sending you the results

[dapper prism]

Higher levels scales your BR so much that XP = way better than short term BR

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/488T9ME.png

[muted bramble]

damn we close

[hybrid spindle]

so I'm supposed to take out all BR cogs and replace them with xp now?

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/xCWjLQM.png
Look at the level vs BR difference:

[dapper prism]

Everything XP, always XP.

[hybrid spindle]

but then I'll have like 10m br rn

[dapper prism]

Short term

Your BR will sink a few days, then your squires level better, and their BR makes it up quickly

[hybrid spindle]

if you say so. unfortunate that my best cogs are br cogs -.-

[muted bramble]

be like me, put pretty color pattern

figure out the rest later

[half wedge]

Do we know if the respawn level for killroy is better than time for 2k equinox kills? Or is it just a small amount

[azure spindle]

you're realistically going ot need both

[dapper prism]

I was skeptical at first when told this. I lost like 50-80% of my BR, and within a week i was already like double my BR

Diminishing returns too though

Well, indirectly diminishing

[hybrid spindle]

i somehow doub that though

[dapper prism]

It's mainly caused by stuff like this:
https://i.imgur.com/uPE5UW7.png

[hybrid spindle]

Because I've always had 1 of my guys in a xp setup

[azure spindle]

what's your carpenter at tricks?

oh nvm

[dapper prism]

Predicted 😉

[hybrid spindle]

well, I don't have that, so mine will not work as well

[molten flax]

am i end game

[dapper prism]

That's just one, overall your BR scales better

[dapper prism]

Higher level (max level con) on a char = better cogs

[hybrid spindle]

I get that, still ^^

[muted bramble]

is it even worth lvling ...

[dapper prism]

So automatically you will get better and better

[muted bramble]

like .45 for 300+ lvl difference

[azure spindle]

is carpenter one of those multipliers to the power type thing like vman cooking skill?

[dapper prism]

I did 2 days of atoms once in range (200ish to that 450) and it got me like 100m+/- BR

[muted bramble]

havent started atoms yet

[molten flax]

damn i need to up mine more

[azure spindle]

I've got 1.44% from carpenter and over lvl 400 in construction but only sitting at 22m build speed

[molten flax]

I think I need another week of NBLB before I can atom carpenter

[dapper prism]

My BR was ~900m a few days back

[azure spindle]

what level is your bob?

[muted bramble]

also whoever was competing agaisnt me for efficiency try to bet this without changing what you currently have

[dapper prism]

was at 1k for 99% of the time, like 3 weeks ago i was aiming towards 2k (now 1.8k) but had to stop and switch

[muted bramble]

Anyways going to bed, got uni tomorrow

[azure spindle]

god I have to work on that

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/5kcgGXv.png

Levels makes a nice difference

scales more and more

[azure spindle]

yeah, I've been on exp for a while but don't quite have the atoms to do bob consistently yet, should change when I move things back to lab resample and change out divinities in a couple days

[untold lintel]

https://monoblos.github.io/cogtimizer/ pretty sure this one is easiest to understand and use 🙂

[azure spindle]

probably gonna hyper go through some atom stuff then since I sampled before without lab

[dapper prism]

It's helpful but still messed up a bunch

the fact it still splits your gem cogs away from squires is a bit eh

[woeful knot]

bruh that so much con lvls wish I had that many

[azure spindle]

part of me wants the last 4 gem cogs, but the other part of me likes buying other things with the absurd amount of gems that would costs

[dapper prism]

Isnt it like 5k gems or something steep like that?

[azure spindle]

yeah somehting like that

4,750 just checked and did the math

for last 4

which is 63% of what it takes to buy all of them

[hybrid spindle]

@dapper prism 160m xp....unfortunately I don't remember what I had before

[dapper prism]

Put both squires into ulti cog, and do some cog clicking

[hybrid spindle]

on it

[dapper prism]

and remember all the directionals preferably should have player con xp:
https://i.imgur.com/vGyOMk8.png

[hybrid spindle]

unfortunately they're not fast enough to get a cog each tick

[dapper prism]

Although settling on BR initially isnt bad

[hybrid spindle]

unfortunately I had 4 br cogs.... but only 1 xp

[magic oyster]

The default solve time setting in cogtimizer is waaaaay too low for a full board, if you bump up it up by a few orders of magnitude you'll get sensible results

[dapper prism]

Ah good to know

[gaunt shale]

TIL directional cogs have a 2nd bonus that affects the direction boost, once again I have done the stupid for too long

https://i.imgur.com/EVgFlIK.png

sometimes I really wonder how I am doing any progress at all

[dapper prism]

yeh the annoying part is checking the directional every time to see if it has player con xp. Since especially early on, a directional with 0% xp and like 10% directional may be better than one thats like 50% xp with 0 directional

[azure spindle]

yeah the multi on a character is huge

[dapper prism]

The directional xp is it's own multiplier

[azure spindle]

I mean even just the 105% is nothing to laugh at honestly

[magic oyster]

The bigger problem with cogtimizer is re-arranging 40 cogs to get a 2k increase to build rate. Always check the project gains before actually doing it ;p

[azure spindle]

feels like one of those things that the work and effort needed to do it isn't worth the gains

[dapper prism]

most times

I also typically like to rearrange my xp cogs from best at top to lowest at bottom, so if/when i cog click a bunch, it's easier to replace my worst cogs

[azure spindle]

yeah I move all my best exp ones to the left where the cog tab opens up

[gaunt shale]

going to spend some hours getting good directional cogs now I guess, gonna see how much of a diff it makes

for once even taking screenshot of before to actually compare if what I am doing makes sense

[patent hatch]

11b?!?!

[dapper prism]

I love how end-gamy you are but didnt know about the directionals xD

Remember to toss your squires into the cog production window

Also, dont be afraid, show those cogs on XP toggle and your squire levels >:)

[patent hatch]

Dude that is massive haha

[gaunt shale]

ya, I try to be efficent, but sadly I am also stupid

Just recently I confused one of my SB for one of my DK for about, 1 half months ? and was wondering why one of my DK was so bad at con

[dapper prism]

Oh that for sure happens

[azure spindle]

do you have higher chances to get better cogs the more are stored of a certain type or is it all just rng?

[dapper prism]

Higher con level = higher cog stats \chance

[gaunt shale]

ya, but storing more wont help

[azure spindle]

ah, so unrelated to the stockpiled ones

[gaunt shale]

i wish lava would alrdy give us filter for cogs, not like it makes con any diff, just helps waste less time

[azure spindle]

welp, guess I gotta level bob for the next 2 months

[gaunt shale]

https://i.imgur.com/xtJZmcw.jpeg

sorry, my massive intelligence issue made me not notice that reply of yours until half an hour later

if directional cogs really give such a massive buff, prop gonna get to 1k con lvl in no time

the correct directional cogs*

[azure spindle]

you... have a level 946 construction DK but did it without directional exp cog knowledge... jesus

I am flabbergasted but not more so than I am impressed

[gaunt shale]

to be fair, its not made very obvious, I mean it kinda is if you click on the cog and actually read what it says, but, who has time to read right ?

[dapper prism]

to be fair, directionals should have an indicator what type of cog bonus it has without clicking it

[gaunt shale]

[dapper prism]

tedious af having to constantly toggle the delete button..

or let us press shift or something to toggle delete button xD

[azure spindle]

oh I'm not disparaging that, I'm just impressed that you managed to still be efficient enough without the knowledge and get those really good construction values

wait kanna, have you seen the nothing lol "bonus" from cogs?

[gaunt shale]

just now I have after checking my cogs when I read about what trickz said

https://i.imgur.com/SaCGJEN.png

sowwy

[dapper prism]

Imagine all these nothing bonuses like cog/vial, etc would benefit fractal island

Perfect opportunity that was missed 😦

[azure spindle]

yeah I was thinking of that yesterday with bobjoepickle vial

that would've been neat

twice your nothing for your nothing

[gaunt shale]

the fact that the bobjoe vial doesnt boost fractal is even bigger missed opportunity

[dapper prism]

yup

Need new patch note that it now does xd

Because the hours on fractal are honestly pretty insane..

"let me just do nothing for 41 days on all 10 alts" to gain +25% nugget

[azure spindle]

yeah some of the bonuses are quite good

[dapper prism]

Not really, all are pretty bad except nugget now with equinox tbh

and even that is short term

[gaunt shale]

its just not viable at all, bonuses suck, trophy is so unlikely, beign there afk is a waste, using candy, also feels like a waste

[azure spindle]

that's fair, haven't checked back recently since equinox so my perception is probably dated

I'm assuming that trophy isn't affected by dr?

[gaunt shale]

you are correct, 1 in 100k hours, not even 100% sure drop, just a waste

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/iJSGZon.png
Dungeon should be done soon into W5.
Kitchen not sure if additive?
Sailing artifact is additive to tusk, so terrible
Shovel, alright short kinda thing.
Star talents, just a tiny bonus ig with all the new star talents we've been getting.

Overall im very happy the bonuses are not good, else you'd feel forced to not play which would be terrible game design. Imagine if the 10k hours for shovel was "all nuggets now additive" it would literally mean "quit the game for 41 days on all 10 alts or 45 days on 9 alts, and do nothing for a good benefit.

And yeh, trophy although nice, still too rng heavy to get

[azure spindle]

ok yeah I definitely misremembered that lol

[dapper prism]

Playing for 7 months and im only at 55k hours of afk
https://i.imgur.com/qQcnXIQ.png

The thought o having to afk that amount of time for w6/7 bonuses is rough

So they need to be very minimal bonuses at best.

[gaunt shale]

I mean it could be fine if we get even more candies than we alrdy do, then you can just candy it, but I hope by then Lava lets us craft small candy into big candy

[hybrid spindle]

that might be the one thing I'm superior to you ^^ raw playtime

[dapper prism]

hold mouse down like the baloon update to use many at once xd

[dapper prism]

ah right, the upgrade candies, only need 20x 1h candies to make 1x 12h candy

[gaunt shale]

honestly ? I would be fine with that

[dapper prism]

damn

i need the 1h for bars 😦

[hybrid spindle]

lava's scaling of everything is rough

[gaunt shale]

why use candies for bars when you can do 2min claims on all 3 archers ?

or am i stupid and you dont mean forge ?

[burnt sail]

Because 2 min claims is sweaty and not everyone wants to be sweaty.

[gaunt shale]

[hybrid spindle]

uhhh flashbanged, haven't had that in a while

[azure spindle]

comes back to that effort vs reward question

like yeah I could do 2min claims, but that's a lot of work for what I'm getting out of it

[dapper prism]

Need 1.5k claims for 1b copper bars. yeh 500 between 3 alts is nice, but also using 1k+ candy works nicely xD

although i do try to just login to all 3 archers when i remember

[gaunt shale]

yeah, I mean Idleon is all about that long term enjoyment so people should play how they want

just didnt come to mind for me, since I just put a movie on and do 2min claims while watching, so using candies for it didnt come to mind

[azure spindle]

I hate the smelting in this just in general but the fact you need it for bubbles and some vials is even worse

honestly just some vials in general being literally impossible or only theoretically possible is quite frustrating

[hybrid spindle]

I have to admit that I didn'T even considder using more than 1 archer

what's the min kills/2min to reach forge cap?

[dapper prism]

not sure, but once you have some mk, it's honestly very easy to reach 2min claims

[hybrid spindle]

depends on some

i don't have a single 100b thingy

[civic creek]

Does this bonus count towards the 1b sample cloud thing?

[burnt sail]

It's base sample I believe. So, no.

[sleek ermine]

no dont think so

[civic creek]

Damn, thought so

[eternal dove]

6 b2b log procs and still going nice

and it stopped that time

[hybrid spindle]

yeah, once you realize how lucky you are, it usually ends

i had like 7 a week ago and I've been hoping for something similar ever since but i always end up with 0 or 1 proc

[azure spindle]

I swear that the odds displayed on it are a lie

you either get 0-1 or like 10

[gaunt shale]

so I might just not remember it 100% correct, but the cap is how much ore you can hold in the forge at one time per slot, since the game wont refill it until you alrdy claimed the kills on archer, so do your ore capacity in forge, do mathy thing with your skill on how many kills you need to on average get the full progress needed (i suck at math, you have to do that on your own) and then see if you can get the number of kills needed in that short time

should be easy to reach the cap thought on gmush, since the actual ore cap is really 🤏

[potent maple]

any use for exinox mats past vials and greenstacking atm?

[dapper prism]

Could prep some bars for future use

especially for how damn slow they are

[potent maple]

valid

[gaunt shale]

greenstack the new bars

prop gonna do that after I am finished losing my mind over TD crashes

[potent maple]

i only crafted my first w5 boss gear, i might need some more of those sweet sweet dred bars before i get into equinox bars but that's a good next step

[boreal ginkgo]

is this artifact the only way to reach lvl 200 talents?

[magic oyster]

Maybe, I never found dreadlo bars to be a limiter compared to the other things around them, not like void bars. The whole forging system is stupid anyway

[gaunt shale]

could be fixed with 1 simple mechanic that lets you further expand your ore cap

then you could just candy archer

[dapper prism]

Technically not anymore, but on a realistic note, you would have that before being able to get to 200 without it. It's a must have and will get you +75 talents

It's like the most important artifact 😄

[hybrid spindle]

yeah, that eldritch fucker just refuses to drop....it's been ages

[cloud tiger]

Finally got a nice time on a pink candy 😮

[dapper prism]

That is indeed very nice 😄

[cloud tiger]

Yeah still can't believe my luck. Figured I might as well try the dreadlo+candies to get lucky lad for equi

[dapper prism]

Small reminder but a bit late, remember you can snapshot cardchance cards before candy

[cloud tiger]

i will try remember that next time hahaha

[dapper prism]

All you do is equip cardchance cards, either enter the map new or open gemshop. Then switch to your main cards and candy. If you change maps/zones or open gemshop again, it will remove the effect. Only works for candy or if you plan to active there, cant carcchance snapshot for going fully afk (switching chars)

[scenic bridge]

Is quick ref storage crashing your phones?

[cloud tiger]

I see, thanks for that. Will definitely do that next time

Cant believe luckier lad is 75 LL to make. Gonna forget about that for a while

[dapper prism]

active DK will net you that really quickly tbh later on

[cloud tiger]

Good to know! Do I need any specific card or talent level for it?

[dapper prism]

Orb 267, crystal spawn cards, PO box stuff, choco chip, overall more DR, etc etc.

[hybrid spindle]

by just switching to it at all, or same way as other maps by entering the area with them equiped?

[dapper prism]

Read next message

[hybrid spindle]

do I need to redo it after using 1 candy?

wonderful

[dapper prism]

Try it with a 1h candy or something first before snapshot

and compare the after version

[hybrid spindle]

nananah that's why I'm asking

so I don't have to waste candy

[dapper prism]

xD

[glacial venture]

as if 1h candy is rare....

[hybrid spindle]

I only have a thousand of them

I'll need much more than that for 100b kills

[glacial venture]

than get more mk

[dapper prism]

If you have 17m kph it's close to 6k hours of candy for 100b

[hybrid spindle]

yes and I got a nice 2m 🙂

almost there ^^

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/o9AVaR4.png

[glacial venture]

then git gud first

[dapper prism]

well, if you have 2m you shouldnt candy for 1b, let alone 100b

[hybrid spindle]

exactly my point

can't afford to waste 1h of candy

I am not ^^

But that's the goal

[glacial venture]

you got doot?

[hybrid spindle]

no

[dapper prism]

Just get it, dont worry about it, money comes and goes but doot is forever

[glacial venture]

btw...which class we speak of?

[hybrid spindle]

and lava's not gonna see anymore of my money with such updates

[dapper prism]

Depends, if 1-2h candies then sb, if big candies and worship then ES

[hybrid spindle]

that's all for the future. right now I don't even have the damage to unlock the construction thing from rifts ^^

Although the order of unlocks seems really weird

what's the use of unlocking the 100b kill bonus when that's something you'll only be capable of like last of all the things

[dapper prism]

tons of money for stamps

[hybrid spindle]

but you unlock tier 5 cards and construction bonus way later

[inner ravine]

With infinity star signs do I still get the bonus if I don’t have the constellation unlocked?

[glacial venture]

yes

[dapper prism]

yes, but for chip doubling star signs its only actually equipped stars

[glacial venture]

and star signs lose their negative effect

[dapper prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1099088196027027606/1099088196291264623/ShinyPetEffect.png

[hybrid spindle]

i wish that weren't the case....just double them all so we have at least one less thing to change back and forth

[inner ravine]

When should I start candying for 1b? I get about 3 mil on poops with sb rn

[dapper prism]

Need 4/5 at lvl 5 and 1 of em lvl 6 to have all starsigns afaik

[strong nova]

where i can see newest td layout

[dapper prism]

TD Stuff (outdated but probably better than spreadsheet)
If you dig through endgame for the most up to date
For basic concept on how new stuff works:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

Here is outdated stuff but still better than spreadsheet, Cans is wrong, setup kraken on top platforms:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[scenic bridge]

what's the easiest way to find a partner for the Halloween quest?

[sinful aurora]

Tinder

[stable berry]

Grindr

[wispy inlet]

I just made it too world 5

What should I do now

[dapper prism]

Get every alt there, do the village quest to start gaming and sailing, then toss all alts onto divinity** (read the Pins for div)** and use 1 alt for active backtracking stuff. Your core goal is to get Goat god ASAP (and preferably even to tiger)

W5 is the ideal time to backtrack and do stuff like this to name a few:
https://imgur.com/c1RhPXA

[hybrid spindle]

what's the best area to farm w4 statues in?

[gilded salmon]

I realised that for bossing, you need to keep redoing snapshats as restarting the boss fight counts as reloading the map

[dapper prism]

Yeh, bossing would be too tedious

[dapper prism]

Check pins.

[fathom lagoon]

Safe to say it’s been a long time coming

[red slate]

should I get it?

[fathom lagoon]

Wood went from 35k to 5.5m 😅

[gilded salmon]

Do you have a setup for 121 orange? I need it for the equinox challenge

[red slate]

what does that mean?

[bright current]

means hes bad

[dapper prism]

I just posted the links like 10 messages above..

=============
Although technically bad, could still easily be better than what some people own, that we dont know what other captains you have. But main goal is Loot or Speed (or both)

[red slate]

so priority goes to double speed, then speed + loot?

[dapper prism]

not necessarily

lots of variables for "best" based on your other unlocks tbh, as long as you have enough boats going to the higher islands at all times with hopefully min time (or close to min time) then you're fine

[naive shard]

Should I use multi kill obols on vman for speed runs?

[dapper prism]

no

base mk sucks

unless you have red mk/tier but even then.. you have a talent that gives you like 2000% mk/tier..

So dmg may be better

[naive shard]

so luck obolos or what?

[next locust]

Luck or just don't bother

Stat or skilling obols for sampling after early mid game?

[naive shard]

best way to get lucky lad on beginner?

[next locust]

Dreadlo candy seems to be the meta

[red slate]

I saw that mining on your best node at 100% and spamming candies with max drop rate was the way

[naive shard]

ok thank you

[dapper prism]

More importantly is also maxing your skill speed. not just 100% effy but get 62/mine speed or close to it, then yeh afk gains and DR

[naive shard]

best way to do that?

[edgy pendant]

Food

[hybrid spindle]

can food boost it beyond 62/min or does food not have any use then?

[fast grail]

For mining/chopping, 62/min is max

[sinful aurora]

Wait there's a hard cap? Does that mean getting the christmas food won't help sampling? I never heard of that.

If not, then how the hell does one reach 1b?

[mellow shadow]

Is there any way to beat citric conflict W50 without poison elder (it's not leveled enough yet)

[zealous niche]

Alchemy

A few other bonuses too, but mostly alchemy

[slender sandal]

!how

do alchemy to improve your samples, level stamps, etc and then samples lead you to more alchemy, it's a big ever expanding loop and then all of a sudden you have a 10k bob bubble and you're focusing on some random esoteric stat because you're bored

[steep spire]

Yo, what is the best purchase in the W5 gem shop ?

[tacit tulip]

As a single upgrade probably the first tier of sprinkler

[steep spire]

okay thanks !

[old portal]

what is the hard cap for this bubble?

[warm parcel]

Just to confirm: with infinite starsigns, having one equipped does or does not apply the bonus twice?

[old portal]

it doesnt

it only doubles when you have the chip

[worthy helm]

Any tips on how to optimize bubo active? Trying to hit the 100k s equinox quest

[old portal]

3s bubo should do the work

also is there a 100k quest? what is that

[kindred dagger]

any tips on how i can increse my dmg on my VW ? trying to kill nightmare kuttle on all my 10 char but VW is the one i have 0 dmg on and i not sure how to inc it ?

[warm parcel]

Idk what level, but it’s asymptotic towards 25%

[old portal]

quick slap would be the best answer

[worthy helm]

Equinox dream

[kindred dagger]

what is that ?

[old portal]

i didnt know equinox has 100k kill quesst welp

[old portal]

green bubble i think its 6th

[worthy helm]

Nah just a 100k second cranium cooking

[kindred dagger]

oh okay thanks 😄

[old portal]

yeah 3s bubo would do fine with that

and 1 shotting the mobns you farm

[worthy helm]

Whats a 3s bubo

3s tentecleye?

[old portal]

get tentacle to proc 3second per kill

yeah

and maybe get better CC bubble

[worthy helm]

Mines at 70% chance for 3s, that good enough?

[warm parcel]

Really? I tick both those boxes all the way up through w4 and I can’t get over 77k… what am I doing wrong?

[worthy helm]

Maybe i'll try getting more cranium cooking time

[eternal dove]

i cannotttttttt for the life of me get past waves 110 to 120 on w5 td

[worthy helm]

Post office, talent level and alchemy bubble are the sources right?

[old portal]

where are you farming?

[manic rivet]

the 3s is the important part

[old portal]

even at floms you should easily reach 100k CC

[manic rivet]

keep upgrading as you get more book max lv

[worthy helm]

Im doing it at floms

But is there a better spot on w5?

[old portal]

to get better CC its just CC bubble with crystal chance assuming you maxed tentacles and CC skill at 220/245

[warm parcel]

Tenteye and cranium are lvl 212, bubble is ~130+ alchemy post box is maxed. I’ve tried floms, cans, tvs, and staches.

[manic rivet]

oranges and wurms better iirc

[old portal]

skill order? or just better CC bubble at that point

[worthy helm]

Yeah not one shotting wurms with poison atm

[manic rivet]

what aboit citringes

if neither, just go floms

[worthy helm]

Alr

Is there an optimal skill order for floms?

[manic rivet]

but i dont think you need poison for citringes at all, you can do it with aura

[warm parcel]

What should the bar look like? I have Rez, Ghost, aura, gas, cc

[manic rivet]

its easy to get full aura coverage on citringes because the map is completely flat

[zealous niche]

Cc, Rez, aura, ghost

For oranges

Aura third for maps easily covered by it, otherwise ghost third and aura fourth

[stray valve]

depends on where you are at game

[worthy helm]

Not that far really

Already at the end of w5 if that's a parameter

But no crazy numbers or anything

[sacred dove]

Larry bubble at 90% is around level 900. Is it better to hard focus it to 90% before others?

[tacit tulip]

A lot of us go for 1100 for the 110% chance

[crisp silo]

Oh its 1100 for 110%? I thought it was 1500..

[tacit tulip]

🙂

[crisp silo]

Cool

[gilded salmon]

Can my shrines in w5 gain levels if none of my characters are in w5? (not sure how the interaction with shrine world tour works)

[tacit tulip]

Shrine world tour gives you the benefits in all maps - you still need to be in the same map (or world with lab) as the shrines to level

Non-doot owners tend to have their shrines in world 4 as you'll have a lot afk in lab or producing ladles

[worthy helm]

What's a good lv on the cranium cooking bubble to reach 100k seconds in one go?

[zealous niche]

Based off mine, probably 75% at a guess

I get 250k ones with 100% and max talents

But the small upgrades matter more at the end

[worthy helm]

Yeah mine's at 50%

[tacit tulip]

only monster vial I'm missing now is OJ. Time to send my SB to go farm plunder stacks

[dense pebble]

I wanted to level divinity a bit, so I checked my altar for xp/hour, which was 553.
Then I invested 200 boxes into the divinity box, which should give a +25% XP buff, but my afk screen still says 553. Can someone enlighten me?
Is 25% so little in the overall multiplier that it doesnt even give a single XP more?

[tacit tulip]

To be honest I doubt anyone's properly tested it haha

Just assumed it worked...

it's also possible it's additive with the other modifiers and achieves damn near nothing

[slender terrace]

is the glitterbug prayer worth running? just hit 130 and not 131, dont want to do again lol

tyty

out of curiosity those that have gotten past it, were you using stormcaller aaa ? i had poison with 1 aab stormcaller on my run

well, aaab*

[worthy shoal]

aaaa

[slender terrace]

and just 1 or 2 poison? might try again just to have the prayer unlocked

[calm knoll]

So close to funny number yet so far

[flint geyser]

is there a way to increase pet odds or is it only by leveling up the treats

[slender terrace]

oh wait nevermind i did unlock the prayer, cheers for the advice fellas ❤️

[tacit tulip]

It's as terrible as it looks, yeah

[vocal flower]

What sort of dps should I be aiming for on my dk for rift 44 (the 180 count on orb level)? I'm at 50b and Max I can get is like 130

[fast grail]

What level is your orb? Have never really seen anyone struggle with the DK rift before at that point, only the ES one

[lost depot]

Crystal Island giants aren't affected by cookie right?

[jovial pebble]

It is

[lost depot]

poggers

[jovial pebble]

Sadly when i first unlocked it, i was on a character that did not have the cookie, and when i left with out killing any and there was alot, they was all gone when i got back

[lost depot]

Holy shit

I just did that lmao

[jovial pebble]

XD

[lost depot]

Legends of Idleon, folks what a great game

[vocal flower]

Orb is 232

[gilded orchid]

Definitely a game that helps you see your mistakes crystal clear

[lost depot]

More like a game that goes out of its way to create mistakes for you to make

Fromsoft could learn a lot from Idleon for their next title

[jovial pebble]

Yeah its quite stupid that they despawn if you leave the map

[lost depot]

Maybe in the Elden Ring DLC if you forget to loot any items on your first visit to an area they should despawn permanently

The LavaFlame gameplay touch chefs kiss

[gilded orchid]

Lava is definitely a particular type of developer

[jovial pebble]

I also lost a few scrolls since i changed map before clicking them

[rapid locust]

is there an over arching strat to sailing? like should you just mob an island then move to the next for boat upgrades?

[lost depot]

The most nostalgic aspect of Idleon is the way it allows you to lose countless hours of progress with a single missclick

Really feels like the old days of online MMOs

[jovial pebble]

well its not as punishing as the mobil game Idle Heroes, if you do a misstake in that game, it will take months to fix it

[gaunt shale]

what aspect punishes you for being an idiot ? I am an massive idiot all the time but I never feel like the game has punished me for it

[lost depot]

If a dev makes a game where you can delete hundreds of hours of progress with a single missclick then the dev is at fault, not the player

People make mistakes, you should not have to play an idle game with pin-point accuracy

Like why would I ever assume that leaving the Crystal Islands map would despawn the mobs?

[jovial pebble]

And there is no notification that says that they despawn if you leave. You have to hear it from some1 else or experience it your self sadly

[gaunt shale]

thats valid point you making

I was gonna say I think the game in general is pretty forgiving tho, then I remember you can mess up your acc by picking wrong classes cuz you cant change them later

you have good point

[lost depot]

Idleon is full of really bad mistakes you can make

[jovial pebble]

You can change now, but that will cost you gems

[gaunt shale]

nope, you cant change base class

[lost depot]

It has very few failsafes to safeguard your progress

[gaunt shale]

only elite classes and stuff

[jovial pebble]

ahh true

[safe harness]

saw someone with 3 void walkers, let that sink in

[jovial pebble]

It would have been cool if the void walkers talents stacked though

[lost depot]

Most MMOs nowadays like Destiny have loot go to directly to your inventory the instant it procs, but in Idleon your 100 hour AFK claim falls on the ground I mean holy cow

I understand this serves a gameplay purpose so its not the best example but still

[gaunt shale]

yeah, without guides or at least info its way to easy to make issues

[granite grove]

only if lava bothers to do sth like renames, position swap, base class swap (cooldown with gem shop or sth), renewable quest item , etc

[lost depot]

I feel like Idleon is stuck on a v limited engine so most of the stuff we want/need probably isn't possible

[gaunt shale]

base class swap isnt possible, as the game rn is, it cant handle it, got nothing to do with lava not wanting to offer it

[granite grove]

too many permanent stuff in game and you gotta plan in advance to be optimal (and make minimal mistake)

[gaunt shale]

same with deleting chars and stuff, engine cant handle it

or lavas code

[granite grove]

unfortunate, but isnt game mostly just json in some way? like, just maybe could be possible to rewrite part of json for base class change and force reload the game

character delete could be more complicated or sth, sad

[lost depot]

Ironically adding character delete is just another mistake for players to make

"I deleted my lv500 Bubo by accident"

[granite grove]

better add sth like deletion timer, goes longer the higher the acc level

[knotty urchin]

just the position swap would be so hot

[lost depot]

Some games do it where you have to type the character's name 3 times to delete it, I like that system

[granite grove]

or could go without it at all, if there are alternatives such as base class swap, rename, reposition something

[lost depot]

It's normal for catching and fishing samples to be way smaller than chopping and mining right?

like 20x smaller

[jovial pebble]

rip just deleted a ulti double cog, since i forgot to turn off delete cogs and i wanted to check the details on the cog

[willow sorrel]

does boost xp directional cogs affect other cogs

or is it just the player

[jovial pebble]

I would think it does, since theres normal cogs with boost xp, but tbh i donno?

[lost depot]

Pretty sure just players but could be wrong

You'd be safe to assume that "Player Construct XP" means it only affects your toons

[last pecan]

OK shifting to the right section @bold quiver do the doot links count a character being in lab and altar even if they're not there?

[bold quiver]

yeah, doot makes so that u have all gods equipped at the same time

need divinity lvl 2 tho / to activate

[last pecan]

ok sweet, so I can still gain divinity off the altar then

[bold quiver]

u are correct, thats why they are directionals (cuz effect only applies to whats being hit)

[crystal ginkgo]

Think I did something stupid. Bought DR stamp from Trash, went to upgrade it and couldn't see it anywhere.
Think I've bought it and left it on the floor and teleported out....urgh

[bold quiver]

oh no kkkkkkkkkk

[lost depot]

The question was whether directionals affected regular cogs as well as players

[bold quiver]

oh it doesnt haha, otherwise u'd see the cog % value increasing

as it happens when u use build rate / flag rate ones

[tacit tulip]

We see that happen to people every now and then, so most likely yeah

[daring ravine]

thankfully that only happens once to me with the skelefish stamp

[smoky ridge]

guys does the major bonus on arctis divinity god active on all players instantly or i have to link it?

the bear divinity god that makes every player connected in the lab

[full notch]

which elite class should i swap? i have 2 bubo 2 dk 2 sb and one each of the rest

[split pebble]

either 1 less DK or bubo.

[tacit tulip]

You link it on each character you want to be classed as in lab

[tacit tulip]

2dk is strong due to construction, 2bubo has no real use. Go 2ES in this situation

[hidden osprey]

is ES the best for the doing the rift drops challenges?

[worthy shoal]

Yes, but begin by spawning portal as far as possible from the regular mobs for lava skull challenge

[smoky ridge]

do people do that tho? what kind of divinity god would people use on their characters?

[tacit tulip]

You pick the gods based on what you need mainly.

Goat is great if you need to level lab and divinity. Bear is good if there's something you wanna farm out using multiple characters

Harriep is the preferred god of many as it enables 6x printing

Snek is used when sampling due to +30% afk. Nobisect for clearing portals or doing deathnote etc

[smoky ridge]

i feel like snek is rlly good, prolly bcuz its the only one i have too

[tacit tulip]

Most of the gods are Incredible

The only one I don't really use is the bird, and the two that don't yet have functions

[smoky ridge]

okay anyway thx for the help

[misty spindle]

I remember hearing long time ago that you shouldnt pop your dice in arcade when you get them till the end, is that true?

[tacit tulip]

Dice being up takes it out of the rotation, which means you're more likely to get the other options (Inc portal)

[misty spindle]

thanks

[tacit tulip]

I don't know if it's a net gain to leave them but given the majority of dice lead to nothing, and the majority that don't also have poor returns on balls, I woouldn't be surprised if it's better to leave them

[cerulean hemlock]

😛

Why not all archer to do treasure hunt quest?

[fallen torrent]

Anyone wanna tremor party for halloween quest?

[sacred verge]

what quest?

this one?

[fallen torrent]

kill monster near party member

not this one

[sacred verge]

is it one after this?

[next locust]

I still haven't been able to find a party for that first quest

[fallen torrent]

yeah

after that its boo. and after the booeyness

[sacred verge]

are they daily?

[hidden osprey]

can i use multiple characters on this?

[fallen torrent]

yes

[next locust]

Yes

[hidden osprey]

alright

[fallen torrent]

idk if its daily but i suppose so

[heavy moth]

mammoth sounds promising for 2K

[cerulean hemlock]

WOOH HOOH!

[fallen torrent]

i got 1100 for that.

[cerulean hemlock]

Frogs is meh

[fallen torrent]

guess im not due for it

i didnt do lot of killroy. sadly

so my timer is like lvl 13

[cerulean hemlock]

I'm going to do my first kilroy since the new equinox

My weekly reset procced before the update

[next locust]

I got much more at frogs (on a failed attempt tho as I forgot to add canisters to my bubo bar)

[fallen torrent]

Anyone wanna tremoir at pizza 4? for the quest

[next locust]

Mamooths' just so awkward movement wise

[fallen torrent]

Im at pizza 4 at tremor for the 500 kill near party member for anyone who wanna join me

[sacred verge]

sure il come. need to do the party dung and 4 ppl in group first tho

[fallen torrent]

wanna come with me to clear it quick? it will take 30 sec

and imma come and help you for the dungeon

[sacred verge]

sure il come

[fallen torrent]

we'll need 2 more for it after

[next locust]

I'll join yoi guys too

[fallen torrent]

tremor pizza 4 first

[heavy moth]

fvrog wasnt that bad

[fallen torrent]

is that you giggle?5

[cerulean hemlock]

So Bubo is better?

[next locust]

Yeh I'm meg

[heavy moth]

yea bubo is the best with respawn talent, canister for huge map and aura

[next locust]

W1 dung now or do yoi stil need kills?

[fallen torrent]

alright

lets find one more person

[sacred verge]

yea

[cerulean hemlock]

It can respawn?

In kilroy?

Busted.

[heavy moth]

yea pretty sure

[fallen torrent]

Anyone frog dungeon 4 party for the quest? need 1 last guy

[pearl pebble]

how much dr should a silver pop obol give

[cerulean hemlock]

But ES and others don't work

Wonder why this does

[fallen torrent]

Pizza world 4 frog dungeon for party of 4 dungeon quest

[cerulean hemlock]

A buff to bubo and only bubo

[next locust]

I don't think respawn works at killroy, but bubo has super good coverage

[heavy moth]

it works with DK too

[next locust]

Ah then I stand corrected

[sinful aurora]

4% with the reroll. Reroll when bronze though to save on costs.

[fallen torrent]

Anyone need a party of 4 for halloween quest?

[pearl pebble]

ty

[pearl pebble]

ah i just trashed my silver pop obol, nice

[heavy moth]

i mean i had 76 second more time and only 2 level in respawwn sooo

[cerulean hemlock]

Ahh

[fallen torrent]

@next locust click find party

Cookie world 1

[next locust]

I did. Ended up different world. Where are you?

[fallen torrent]

we have 4

[next locust]

Cookie 1

Sec

[spice meadow]

Divinity is pain

[meager saffron]

Last time I did bubo on killroy my respawn was definitely not working so I feel like it might have been just bubo being good

[elfin idol]

F

[heavy moth]

yea missing some point in timer

[elfin idol]

its what i deserve for ignoring this feature

[long siren]

Should I do minibosses with ES or DK?

[spice meadow]

Youre better than me

I totally ignored it untill world 4

[heavy moth]

so clsoe

[tacit tulip]

I hit like 1990 this week 😦

[sacred verge]

tremor?

help me with the 300

[tacit tulip]

pain

[heavy moth]

sop close

[elfin idol]

1300 on mamooths 4th attempt, probs quite a lot of timer levels away

[tacit tulip]

frogs gave me more than mammoths

[spice meadow]

True pain is not having nothing past resourses on equinox

Dont have anything to spend my charge rate, it just sits there

[heavy moth]

think ill have more on frog too

yea 2133 on frog and 1769 on mammothj

[fathom lagoon]

Bruh same til I finally resampled and got the 7 digit sample. Now I can upgrade the cauldron one but pretty screwed after that lol

[spice meadow]

Equinox is really not "mid game" like some people say

Its like...on the beggining of endgame

Its pain

[spice meadow]

Oof

[fathom lagoon]

Yea equinox is endgame to me too tbh

But the buffs seem insane

[spice meadow]

They are absolutelly insane

All of em

Minus the lab pixel one

[fathom lagoon]

Lab pixel one is good for non-dooters

Move towards Less people in the lab

[next locust]

The lab pixel one allowed me to get all nodes with my current setup

[small lantern]

And whenever we get more gems/bonuses

[next locust]

+1 pixel op

[daring ravine]

no its just to hit the cooking jewel with just 6 chars

because it was 1 pixel away earlier

[fathom lagoon]

Wait the cooking jewel is on a per person basis?

Oh wait jk you meant w 6 chars in lab total

Still drinking my coffee

[sacred verge]

any1 can help me with

[spice meadow]

The cofee is drinking you, escape while you can

Im on my third cup lol

[fathom lagoon]

Coffee got me in a chokehold at this point

Daily drinker since 24 I’m 30 now lol

[spice meadow]

Thats past saving

[green eagle]

got these two to atom-able levels, although i know they are mostly worthless lol

[spice meadow]

I cant quit drinking it too lol

[spice meadow]

Eyy, at least you got it

[green eagle]

the return of that quest LOL did he fix it this time???

[sacred verge]

afaik yes

[serene solstice]

anyone wants? xD

[green eagle]

you had me seeing 1 billion for a second

[serene solstice]

haha

nah wont happen

at least not that early

have a 13.7m nugget atm

my range rn

[green eagle]

inching closer to a big roll i know it (my all time high was 384k before equinox and i thought i was a big nuggy roller, now i'm just playing catch up )

[sacred verge]

13.7m nugget

damn

[spice meadow]

10 nuggs

I envy you guys

[rapid python]

I see a few different answers in old posts. Whats the right talent sequence for cc bubo?

[pearl pebble]

best tab 4 anvil priorities?

[green eagle]

this is my aura bubo. he's different than just straight poison bubo

[runic girder]

Cc - raise dead - aura - fart

[serene solstice]

thats for flat maps

[green eagle]

he uses melee fists to get close and get aura's out

[rapid python]

i dont have either the acheivement yet, or the relic. should i still go with these? skills are at like 187ish

[serene solstice]

for maps like tremor it should be cc aura raise and ghost

[green eagle]

oh and i missed it. went from 499-504 over the last day because i wasn't here lmao

[green eagle]

oh really? hadn't heard that. i'll try it and see if it makes a large difference. i'm pulling 400k seconds right now, always up for more gains

[serene solstice]

got the information yesterday and don't know if its better actually will test it out in a bit too

[green eagle]

i now own all three, we getting liquid now

can't wait for the 4th cauldron to be added finally so can zooooom the levels

[serene solstice]

I will buy my first one its sad I never had the gems at the times when it came in

[sacred verge]

same

[green eagle]

they are pretty nice, i tell you what

[sacred verge]

whats ur regen ?

[hidden osprey]

does this work in rift? seems impossible for me to get the time challenge

[serene solstice]

get it to 200

[pearl pebble]

whats the best thing to start on for anvil tab 4

[fathom lagoon]

Qq y’all for the atomizer y’all keep that turned on right? And what threshold y’all keep@it at?

[leaden hemlock]

1050

[fathom lagoon]

Thank you friend

[leaden hemlock]

cause it allows you to finish vials

[swift hatch]

Are floms still the most mob dense map?

or do the socks(tremur worm) eek out a win now lol

[smoky sorrel]

Weapons of course, and armor can u craft

[gentle furnace]

For dk orb or CC?

[swift hatch]

CC, for that 100,000 seconds mission in equinox

[gentle furnace]

Wurms better if you have enough dmg

[swift hatch]

hmmm I definitely have enough damage but im still like 23,000 off bleh

[gentle furnace]

What talent and bubble level

Wait a minute, you should be able to get 200k+ CC if you have enough dmg to one shot wurms

You can easily get 250k at OJ

[pearl pebble]

ty

[swift hatch]

totally forgot I was on my shittier bubo who wasn't fully booked. and I didn't have his CC booked lol

[gentle furnace]

Lol

[swift hatch]

the answer to your question is 269 for talent and 416 for bubble lol should be uhh pretty easy now

[slender terrace]

if you have high enough crystal mob spawn chance can glitterbug prayer be worth it when maxed? or maybe just on maestro? or is it just straight up trash

[swift hatch]

Just god awful from what I remember.

[gentle furnace]

Never tried it

[slender terrace]

yeah, it doesnt seem like its great at all. Someone earlier said its bad but i thought i would double check...strange such a high unlock prayer is so bad

[fathom lagoon]

My boy back

[potent panther]

what does dr mean

[heady torrent]

Drop rate

[sick orchid]

Any1 has extended infinite refinery cycles sheet?

[heavy moth]

sadness is real

[heady torrent]

Lava better hurry up on the update

[cerulean hemlock]

I finally finished the tutorial

[tacit tulip]

Once you get to that point stuff starts cycling so fast I don't think it matters

[cerulean hemlock]

My life is now fufilled

[heavy moth]

ahaha so now you starting the early game

[cerulean hemlock]

I sure am

That.. WAS the tutorial right?

[green eagle]

liquidvestment from equinox helped those who never had a chance to own them. right now all my liquids sit at 50/hr, but i spammed cap way harder before and not rate as much. now with liquidvestment i'll be much more even

pray that my snail makes it to 20 in the next few days

[heavy moth]

yea yea aha welcome to early game a stage with no end till the grand red panda master become endgame

[cerulean hemlock]

[green eagle]

i should just dump all my traps on pingy so that i can just finish this and never look at salt lick again ( )

[golden cipher]

Hi people, is there any worship guide after equinox change?

[sick sentinel]

Laaaarrry, skilling bubbles for prints, bob

[golden cipher]

that is insane, it will take me several months to achieve T_T

[sick sentinel]

#endgame-gen-chat message
Mini compliation of new strats, not finalized but somethin

[golden cipher]

I have no access 😕

[sick sentinel]

First to 105% (750), but 110 is an easily reachable point

I think its 1100 laarryy

[sick sentinel]

React eith in #👀read-me to get access to the channel

[golden cipher]

cool, ty

wow, those screenshots are really endgame

[sick sentinel]

mhmm

[heavy moth]

its not over yet i still got 4 already unlocked dream, but finished all the last one today still have the 500 on all 200 Gstack, 100K laddle and 121 on TD ahah

ruby is a given, red frisbee too

[sick sentinel]

[golden cipher]

oh!! 200 Gstack is insane I am feeling less bad now

121 TD and laddle are not so hard

[heavy moth]

at 175 atm jsut to lazy to clear the crafting one XD

[sick sentinel]

yeah just time consuming for ladles

[heavy moth]

and some statue

[sick sentinel]

ur beating me

[heavy moth]

so close 😮 only like a few days and you done

one closer muihaha

[sick sentinel]

im prob just going to do some colo with dk to finish the ladles

get some eggs too

[heavy moth]

eggs for pet exp ? just keeping mine till w5 pet arrive, if it ever does

[sick sentinel]

yeah eventually i'll go for lvl 75 breeding for skill mastery

[heavy moth]

ahah take so much time 😮

lvl 67 atm and ive been for several month ahah exp is so bad

[green eagle]

are the falloween treats best to open on DK?

[sick sentinel]

so close yet so far

[sick sentinel]

unaffected

if it was a mob like other events yeah but not this time

[runic girder]

What kind of growspeed and max plants do people have to keep a chem cycle going?

Ive just unlocked it and cant keep cycles going at all (which i understand but wondering what i need to work towards)

[green eagle]

time to spam encouragement

[regal tapir]

!arena

[serene solstice]

anyone wants?

xD

[tacit tulip]

I know this is two nuggs but it reads as 80T at first lmao

[heavy moth]

meanwhile didnt ever had one of 100K ahaha

[fervent brook]

Is there a certain percentage amount for snail when you should stop encrouaging?

[serene solstice]

lmao

[gusty glade]

are wood logs the best way to push atoms?

[tacit tulip]

Oak and copper are the strongest atom sources

[gusty glade]

Ty.
Do people do chopping / copper on all characters just to push atoms the hardest? I only have one character doing logs and one character doing ore. The rest are pushing vials.

[tacit tulip]

Vials are a valid option too, especially once you have mastery

[gusty glade]

I do. I just think my vial pushing is too slow because my alchemy is bad because my atom production is limited (only have 150m log sample with doot).
I’m thinking maybe I switch to full atom push, then alchemy, then try and get my vials?

[nimble yarrow]

finally got my 15 chem plants

[nimble yarrow]

i literally just did the same

[dire oriole]

what is this?

[nimble yarrow]

greenstack aka how many items you have over 10mil of in your stash

[dire oriole]

ah i see

[ancient vine]

guys what's the best to farm Lucky Lads, ES or DK

[fervent brook]

Besides the fishing cards are there any other skill cards to use the 5 star cardifiers on? I know most skill cards can be easily farmed. wondering if some are such a pain in the ass that extra cardifiers can be useful.

[fathom lagoon]

I’ve heard alien logs

Apparently the card drop rate is insanely bad for that

[granite grove]

DK iirc, the orb also mutiplies drop from crystal mobs (and anything else) unlike ES which is for wormhole mobs only

[ancient vine]

then Wurm farming time

thx

[green eagle]

the rewards from 500 treats. i feel slightly ripped off lol

[fathom lagoon]

Damn only 1 premium hat? Nice gem return tho

[granite grove]

cleaned 20/20 50 treats and only got 1 hats

[green eagle]

yep, that's the only reason i don't feel 100% ripped off

[granite grove]

and another 1 but thats from today 50 daily, oof

[fathom lagoon]

This was mine from 1k treats. It was 1k ish gems total (I had redeemed 850 ish before taking the pic lol)

[serene solstice]

damn

going up when do I get my 100m roll?

[stuck elbow]

😮 how do you check your rolls possible with equinox?

[serene solstice]

Idleon Toolbox

[sudden halo]

So I saw a chart saying Magma is always better for Bubo. What's the reasoning for this one?

[serene solstice]

more wis stat = more money trough bubble I think

thats the reason like ik

[sudden halo]

Ahhhhh ok. Thanks

[green eagle]

where? IT always irritates me because i can't find what i'm looking for lmao

[rapid python]

world 5 > gaming

[green eagle]

ie has always been more streamlined for me

big nuggy pls

[rapid python]

btw is the worship tab wrong? it always reports my main wizard is overflowing due to syphon, but none of my characters are close to overflow yet

[sick sentinel]

so looks like you can presample red frisbee for equinox

[serene solstice]

under account world 5 gaming

[sick sentinel]

its overflowing if you syphon. my guy can only hold 15676 so i would lose 8k charge if i used it

[fading cape]

Syphon gives you bonus to your own charge max as a wizard but not as much as all 10 characters. So when it says that's going to overflow it means it will be more than you can hold if you use syphon right then

[rapid python]

right. and then the front page alerts, and it really shouldnt

[sick sentinel]

its just a reminder to use your charge before you syphon, it isnt wrong

[rapid python]

ive read enough angry reddit reviews to not use syphon now 😛

[fading cape]

I've gotta re-worship with everyone. Just finally got top-left cardifier console chip. So now I finally have both cards doubled.

[molten flax]

which cards do you double?

[green eagle]

i got this hat again 💀

[thorn marsh]

is cog lvl based on top construction lvl or top construction lvl producing that cog?

[tacit tulip]

The former

[dawn sand]

Is the borzoi hat just a stat hat? Does it have any unique stats?

[steady beacon]

Do you guys use the midas minded prayer on your ES at all times? even when farming w5?

It's worth maximizing, right?

[gusty glade]

Way more experienced people here who may refute what I’ll say, but I think unless you are easily killing mobs and are getting decent multi kill levels with it on (where there’s billions in not-so-easy to achieve damage between tiers) then it’s better to keep it off.
Hard yes on maximizing it though I think.

[elder cove]

Can someone confirm if you have Doot does Mindful still work while not doing divinity or you need to switch to TranQi ?

[glossy rain]

Any1 having tips for no kraken w5 td achiev?

[frozen prairie]

doot only gives you the bonuses, not the actual xp and points

tranQi is the only one that allows for practically auto-div

[steady beacon]

Thanks for the reply! I'm dealing around 36b damage with it on, at lvl 24. Seems worth it for W5 to get extra drops, since as you say the gaps between multikill are getting ridiculous now

[gusty glade]

Sounds worth it to me for that sweet sweet DR.

I’m in a similar damage range and just recently put it on all my characters as well. Feels really good.

[steady beacon]

ok, coldseeker bullets are stupidly good XP for crafting.

Shame it's only from lvl 71 onwards!

[frozen prairie]

they're the best for xp i believe

i just did 71-100 on all my toons w/them and it was pretty fast

[pure ember]

^

Only took..... 2-4k bullets each iirc?

[tacit tulip]

iirc you can do worship gum to get to 71 in a reasonable timeframe

[gusty glade]

This detail here is exactly what I’ve been looking for

[sick sentinel]

for pure exp from anvil dont forget to do craft from storage, crafting from inv goes too fast and skips some exp gain

[lavish cloak]

stupid complicated game

[sick sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/spag-food-love-is-food-mmm-same-gif-26394894

[steady beacon]

I pretty much only craft from storage, so glad to hear I was doing that right. 😄

[sick sentinel]

for exp purposes for sure, but if you want to bulk craft for greenstacks where exp dont matter or whatever do it from inventory its lightyears faster lol

[fresh pilot]

What’s the best place grind for the event?

About 3 mil damage rn

[steady beacon]

good to know, Circ! Thanks!

[vagrant mountain]

can i get an F in chat

[tacit tulip]

Wherever really, there's only 50 drops a day and you can hit that reasonably fast

[steady beacon]

pretty sure it's like all events, there's no specific spot. just kill monsters until you get all 50

[paper sail]

I get my 210 tomorrow

[fresh pilot]

Ok

[steady beacon]

why, what's the problem?

missing 4m dust motes?

[vagrant mountain]

im 6m capacity off

[paper sail]

They don't have the capacity

[steady beacon]

ah, makes sense. 😂

[vagrant mountain]

i thought i had it today >_<

[paper sail]

416m doesn't sound like much, but Bugs suck

[vagrant mountain]

i guess i shoulda double checked

i got 141 catching and 128 mason jar

i could have it if i left my guild for a max one

[paper sail]

I am at 128 mason, 184 bugsack, 129 catching

Guess your Bugsack stamp must be lackin'

[vagrant mountain]

i think its like 160 or 170 ish

[paper sail]

My guild's rucksack is maxed, haha. 35% there

[paper sail]

Just that 1 round of bugsack is the difference lmao

[vagrant mountain]

pain

[daring ravine]

time to abandon ship

[paper sail]

Feels badman

[vagrant mountain]

🫡

im tempted

[daring ravine]

[tacit tulip]

could be worse 😄

[paper sail]

Make an alt, put them as the guild leader

[vagrant mountain]

damn

[paper sail]

Then join me 😄

[vagrant mountain]

if i make an alt ik im gonna play both accounts and burn out

its a trap

[tacit tulip]

I have an alt that sits in dungeon w1 room exclusively for happy hour 😄

[dapper prism]

why not just gmush, and then move him there when u need it o.o

[daring ravine]

add one of @manic rivet multiple failed doot runners

[tacit tulip]

[sick sentinel]

the crew grows every week

[manic rivet]

are you sick of rolling bad pets?

[paper sail]

I found a Ram for my weekly and it got my hopes up so hard

[tacit tulip]

the gangs all here

[dapper prism]

ty4 reminder xD
https://i.imgur.com/zQOFRXO.png

[daring ravine]

hes been here for a month

[clear parcel]

does the current weekly boss strat rely completely on the last character's stiltmole kills for the damage?

[burnt moth]

What’s the fourth island to unlock?

[sick sentinel]

what have you unlocked

[burnt moth]

Trash, fishing and wisps

[sick sentinel]

whats wisps, shimmer?

[paper sail]

I'd unlock Crystals next then

[burnt moth]

Yeah think so

[sick sentinel]

yeah crystal

then rando

[steady beacon]

Crystals is amazing for levelling your trash characters, or Vman. If you have chocolate chip, you can get a ton of levels of the respawns. I've managed to get 30 levels off 2 days worth of crystal monsters. (from ~290 -> 320 - you may get even more if you're lower level.)

Just make sure to max out the xp gain cards, equipment, and constellations

[paper sail]

People really overhyping the exp lol. It is only huge if you have majorly neglected them

My BB bumped 440 -> 442 with a week of crystals built up

With uh.. over 100x class exp

[heavy moth]

thats weekly GP gain ?

[paper sail]

It should be counting daily and weekly tasks

I always forget to turn that one in so it is worth 0 to me

[orchid ferry]

lol i think im not ready for this, its been like a minute so the fight will probably be close to an hour

[heavy moth]

yea ahah wont be a nice pay this week

[paper sail]

Won't be major, but scoot further to the right. You'll get better tornado hits on the boss if you're basically in his mouth.

[orchid ferry]

like this?

[paper sail]

Nope, sadly. I don't think I've seen anyone get more than 10 from that task

[orchid ferry]

lol thanks for making it 58 min instead ;)

[paper sail]

I am living for you challenging the hardest world boss difficulty with a w3 weapon

[orchid ferry]

i just upgraded from effaunt to troll gear lol

[deft grail]

raid stack on the boss's ass

[orchid ferry]

can probably get lava on all

im just lazy

and probably missing some salts

[jovial bloom]

is this the right way to get snail fast?