lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[golden cipher]

that the vman skill efficiency in all skills are terribly lower than other pj which have specific talents about that

[dapper prism]

wtf is pj ?

[golden cipher]

character

[grizzled elk]

do you know how crystal countdown works on vman?

[golden cipher]

yes

and it is still worthless

[grizzled elk]

he doesn't need much efficiency to level

[dapper prism]

efficiency has nothing to do with leveling the skillls

[golden cipher]

it is easier to me to level up a mage from 130chopping to 131 than a vman from 130 to 131 with 80% exp reduction

[dapper prism]

Besides reaching 100% which should get very easy

[sour oasis]

The amount of materials gained from VMan is not the point... the point of leveling skills is to level OTHER CHARACTERS skills

While maintaining the efficiency bonus from right hand...

Which increases samples...

[dapper prism]

If your vman takes longer in xp than your mage, then something is wrong with your talents tbh

[golden cipher]

and that is the hard part

[golden cipher]

it may be

[sour oasis]

THAT is why you do skilling on vman 24/7

Because it takes a while

[dapper prism]

get like 7.5x xp from happy dude alone:
https://i.imgur.com/fti7chY.png

another 7.5x from this:
https://i.imgur.com/Az7iwuB.png

[golden cipher]

Maestro transfusion is also the useless talent from vman

[sour oasis]

700% skill EXP doesnt look useless to me.

[sick sentinel]

[dapper prism]

only useless if you don't know how to use it..

[golden cipher]

click a button?

[sour oasis]

If you get enough efficency for 100% gather while its on then its free EXP

[dapper prism]

Honestly it all sounds like a "you problem"

[dapper prism]

No..

[sour oasis]

7x skill exp for free from pressing a button

[dapper prism]

If you struggle with the effy on something high like dreadlo or seasalt fishing island. then you may be bettter off NOT maxing it, and balancing it around reaching 1x (100%) effy.

[golden cipher]

I will give you an example. If I chop dandelioli tree I have 1B afk gains. If I use that talent I have 700M afk gains

[dapper prism]

My vman has ~ 35.5x Mining xp multi, my warri would be around 25x

[dapper prism]

Read what i just wrote.

Right above your message

[sour oasis]

If your gains lower then that means you do not have enough efficiency to gather dandelioli 100% with it on

Talent is too high, efficiency too low

[dapper prism]

As said, you are using the talent wrong and don't understand it then.

[golden cipher]

the x3 chopping prowess gives me more exp than that talent. In the case of dreadlo it gives me more exp a x3prowess than x1 with the talent

[golden cipher]

this may be true but my vman has a x3 prowes in dreadly why berserker has a x7

[sour oasis]

Prowess does not affect EXP

[dapper prism]

Again, multi has no effect on xp.

[golden cipher]

and it gives more than double exp than vmna

[sick sentinel]

any efficiency over 100% does not affect exp gain

[sour oasis]

😂

[sick sentinel]

its likely your mining speed

[dapper prism]

Either you actually listen when people want to help, or stop giving excuses

[sour oasis]

My guy you are not understanding core concepts of the game

It is what it is, why argue

[dapper prism]

Mining and woodcutting cap at 62 skill speed. Reach that, then get 100%+ effy.

[dapper prism]

It's not even not understanding, it's not listening and not trying to understand

[golden cipher]

I argue about this because I can't see the useful part about it

[dapper prism]

Inserin you're better off going to #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳ with these questions

[serene solstice]

this upgrade feels good

[sour oasis]

The "Useful part" has been explained a couple times already

[serene solstice]

but sad part time to start over again with stacking the bufff...

[golden cipher]

I tried to understand it but the AFK INFO always give me the right

[sour oasis]

Lol for sure

Its a simple if this -> then that question with the transfusion talent

[dapper prism]

you don't understand the basics, it doesnt even sound like you compared skill speed and stuff like that.

[sour oasis]

If efficiency is high enough then use transfusion

Your efficiency is not high enough

[sick sentinel]

yoo toolbox gettin them updates tho

[dapper prism]

omg it does that now? :d

[golden cipher]

that is what I do. and that is why I never use it and I have lvl 120 mining, I can't see the problem

[sick sentinel]

yeah francis posted about it, its lit

[serene solstice]

damn I had the chance for 23.8m rip me

[sick sentinel]

time to build up again

[serene solstice]

but I am fine with this upgrade but idk until when I will go for upgrades before I start the t7 grind xD

[golden cipher]

now I almost know that useless vman it is even useless because it can be use to farm kills. ty for the information

[spice meadow]

Any idea about when falloween starts?

[dapper prism]

Go flame somewhere else, we explained stuff to you more generously then i would usually do to someone who doesnt even want to understand

[dapper prism]

Probably 1-3 weeks after halloween

[spice meadow]

[sour oasis]

Please keep farming death note with vman and then complain when your eclipse skulls go missing

[dapper prism]

Like, easter event was at the end of april to may. Summer was mid to end August

[dapper prism]

"But.. I only farm nuttos on it but still lost 20 eclipses"

[golden cipher]

I am not flaming, just telling the truth, you are the ones who don't want to listen

[spice meadow]

That would be a very lava thing to do

Makes sense

[sinful salmon]

My chars are all finally lvl 40 div... but I'm scared to let them out of Goat Lab prison

[golden cipher]

obviously I won't do it because now I know they are being reset, the talent or the class says nothing about killing reset

[serene solstice]

do I want to understand whats going on here rn? xD

[cerulean hemlock]

Lva is lava

[dapper prism]

Yes, it was hilarious, scroll up

[cerulean hemlock]

I bet falloween will be on 12/25/2023

this is lava, he's unpredictable

[serene solstice]

time to search the first msg xD

[spice meadow]

Nahh it'll be like in 02/20/2024

[cerulean hemlock]

Shhhh that's for valenslime

[spice meadow]

Double event

[cerulean hemlock]

Don't give him any ideas

[dapper prism]

Starts here.
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

TLDR: someone ranting and not listening to advice and still claiming they are saying the truth

[spice meadow]

Love is scarry

Would make sense

[serene solstice]

ty <3

[cerulean hemlock]

my gf is scary 😅

[cerulean hemlock]

btw did you see my amarok felt?

[spice meadow]

Nop

Will see

[manic moat]

So, I can't remember if I bought the new bribes...How would I find out? The last one in my toolbox says Star Scraper and I have purchased it.

[cerulean hemlock]

There's a sword and a head one

[spice meadow]

Its kinda nice

[dapper prism]

probably ie or toolbox shows u the list of owned ones afaik

[cerulean hemlock]

There's a view paid bribes thing on the top right

[spice meadow]

I think it needs more vines?

[cerulean hemlock]

I rushed on the head

[cerulean hemlock]

Yeah, I added those today

I need to make the breast/chestplate some time in the future

[spice meadow]

Da sword is cool

[manic moat]

but if I haven't bought them, do they show up?

[spice meadow]

Very well made

[cerulean hemlock]

😛 Had to draw a literal blueprint for it

[spice meadow]

Quick question, is it worth buying the trash island piggie bribes?

[cerulean hemlock]

Yes

[spice meadow]

Havent seen what they do yet

[cerulean hemlock]

ofc it is

[cerulean hemlock]

% damage

%afk

more trash

those things

[spice meadow]

O

[cerulean hemlock]

Now you can call someone trash and it won't be an insult!

[spice meadow]

lol

I lvld up!

Kinda surprising by how litle i talk here

[cerulean hemlock]

XD

[last vortex]

Nice

[cerulean hemlock]

talking? who does that?

[serene solstice]

I have nothing to say about it... it is fr hilarious

this actually could be me on my worst brain lag moments

[cerulean hemlock]

Lag is good

[serene solstice]

normal brain lag is good

but not my worst ones

until I am done with equinox

with my current fill rate

not bad actually

greenstacking is ass

[cerulean hemlock]

Better than super chows

[fathom lagoon]

Anyone got a TD guide for citric conflict lvl 50?

[cerulean hemlock]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#
Ca Bop!

[fathom lagoon]

Yea I got that one too but it goes straight to 101 for citric conflict and I got no idea what lvl the towers are lol

[hexed crescent]

Anyone know what this is?

[serene solstice]

super chows were easy af

[cerulean hemlock]

Just do 101, plop void, then frozone, then the bubo's if you can. if you can't plop bubo, plop boulder, swap out between wave 20-30, do kraken too, along with the party starters

Ignore upgrading boulder UNTIL you get kraken

also, on wave 40-47, save up

sell the first poison and swap with void

that way 48 won't kill you

get kraken to B

Frozone to B

boulder to hit 2+ enemies

[fathom lagoon]

Screenshotted imma try all that out. Thanks friend

[cerulean hemlock]

I'm not done

[cerulean hemlock]

Swap boulder out during boss

also, get all to level 5, thunder to 10

thunder is BB

or, one is BB, other is BA

you may ask, but there's only one!

ignore the final party starter

only plop 3

[hexed crescent]

Citric? Just follow this thing right here, took me straight to 110 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[cerulean hemlock]

place the thunder on plaatform with portal

[cerulean hemlock]

He saw that one

[dapper prism]

I just dont understand the purpose they have... you explain it to them,.. "No", you explain it again "No i am telling the truth you don't know it", like okay whatever next time an insta block for me ig xD

[cerulean hemlock]

I'm breaking it down

[cerulean hemlock]

I have the same thing, only I'm carrying people in dungeons and they complain things like, "I thought you were pro!" or, "Did you even try?"

[cerulean hemlock]

You got all that?

it's a lot

[fathom lagoon]

Imma try, it’ll prob take 1-2 tries

[cerulean hemlock]

Took me two

[fathom lagoon]

Gonna try to look up a YouTube guide too later after dinner

[cerulean hemlock]

Also, wave 48, if you have BM, use vines instantly

[dapper prism]

Strat is kinda different now if you have equinox

[cerulean hemlock]

tbf, you need to get the buff by getting to wave 50 🧠

since at that point you'd have unlocked 2-3 buffs

I'm feeling a big brain moment coming

[serene solstice]

yeah idk what he tought about it you write here because some ppl know it better and help you but why would you write here when you think you know it better

[cerulean hemlock]

@fathom lagoon Also REMEMBER TO TURN OFF DAMAGE NUMBERS

[dapper prism]

Yup, had team of 4, 2 were afk for the first minute so i asked "can you please not afk, it's my 40 ticket run" and they flamed me and then intentional afk'd the whole round

[cerulean hemlock]

any little bit helps

[cerulean hemlock]

I had basically the same thing, but it happened three times in a row.

This is why i don't carry anymore

[hexed crescent]

Isn't it pretty much the same though? Maybe a bit more delay over dps, but essentially the same, that's how I did mine anyway

[golden cipher]

I don't think I know it better, I know how works on my vman and well, how it is not working on my vman (yes, I am still here )

[cerulean hemlock]

6 krakens isn't a bit 😛

[dapper prism]

You clearly don't if you still think multi prowess gives more xp.

[cerulean hemlock]

W5 totem is hardest because there are very little platforms

W2 is also annoying

[hexed crescent]

Where I you getting 6 krakens from? I just did 7 krakens in the acorn one, didn't really work though

[cerulean hemlock]

W3 is easiest imo

[serene solstice]

but you literally write it like you know it better while ppl tell you how it really works lmfao

[cerulean hemlock]

I just plop them in front of the portal

[golden cipher]

as I told you, I just check my AFK INFO and it is working in my case

I obviously would like to do it better and use talent for imprevement but they don't in my case

[cerulean hemlock]

you got items at least

[dapper prism]

Go to #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳ and learn the basics please.

[cerulean hemlock]

Tbf, the vman reset was in #idleon-gen-chat pins!

Also in #bug-reports-🐛

No offense to you, but you should check those pins out first! 😄

[dapper prism]

think also in #patch-notes📝

[cerulean hemlock]

Hey, look, I like my burns too, but teaching is good

[cerulean hemlock]

yeah prob

[dapper prism]

Not fully, now you'd aim to slow/freeze lanes
Frozen goes A's, Party needs more Speeds to get kraken to like 0.45's and you use more krakens overall. This'll perma slow most waves, you spam spawn the 10 waves to build up the dmg quicker etc

[golden cipher]

I agree it is useful but I think I should not be forced to read that information in discord before just playing

[cerulean hemlock]

You aren't forced... It's a tip

usually people don't dreadlo on vman

[golden cipher]

I see and now I know it

[cerulean hemlock]

Also, checking deathnote ingame would've lead you to the same result!

[golden cipher]

you are right but it was nearly 2months from my last vman run so I did not check itlast time

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep! At least you know now! I now suggest you read pins a bit just in case you have a situation like this again 😉

[golden cipher]

2months only dreadly made a huge different

[golden cipher]

I usually try to read the notes but I see I skip this one

or maybe I forget about it

[cerulean hemlock]

Probably the former

@dapper prism you see? Isn't this a much better result? I learned the ,"Don't try slam dunking them for the first 5 minutes' in #player-sug-discuss XD

But hey, once those 5 minutes are up....

I turn on the grill 😎

[dapper prism]

For sure, but like, you can bring a horse to the river but you cant force em to drink.
We've explained how transfusion and prowess works, and if used properly you gain a lot more xp on vman, also overall vman has better xp than the others.
The response was essnetially a "no it doesnt work like that" even though it does. Cant force someone to listen. Their last reply has been the most accurate though that "it doesnt work for me in this case" yes, because they are losing the 100% effy. Which was also explained that transfusion isnt as simple as a "Max talent then hit button" if you cant maintain the 100%+ effy
Either way, it's whatever

And the chat goes back way up, hence my reply

[cerulean hemlock]

Yeah, I live in FL. Karens everywhere., not saying inserin is a karen or something like that, but I do learn how to get around them

Tutoring too

[dapper prism]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[cerulean hemlock]

if they don't know what 1+1 equals, then find them a new way

[dapper prism]

This was an ongoing chat for a while

[cerulean hemlock]

i know what's been happening, I'm here 16/7

[dapper prism]

xD

[cerulean hemlock]

It's true yknow!

30k only, pathetic 😛

Point is, this is an online community

If you're going to teach them something

Teach them in a way they'll digest it

If you're unwilling to stuff it down their gullet, they may even try to doxx you

Hence why I have 3 VPN's

@dapper prism You reading all of this?

Honestly, I try to help as much as I can

In fact, I help others more than I help myself XD

[zealous niche]

As a teacher, this is a lovely ideal, but psychology interferes

[cerulean hemlock]

oh, I've taken courses in psychology

agree with people

[zealous niche]

Our brain decides on what reality is first, then checks it against reality

It doesn’t have to check all that thoroughly

[cerulean hemlock]

Mhmm

I just try

[golden cipher]

😦 I was not trying to teach anything to the community, just asking about one problem and explaining why I hate and I will still hating the vman as the worst character in the game.
If you don't think the same as me it is cool but you should not make me think vman is cool just because "I don't know the basics"

[cerulean hemlock]

if they ABSOLUTELY refuse

then, well, they're done

[golden cipher]

In fact I also hate myself because I have 2vman

[old crane]

vman just makes your other chars better at their jobs

[cerulean hemlock]

Mhmm! People respect other's opinions!

[cerulean hemlock]

Job=internship

unpaid internship

We make them get in a probably unsanitized tube

and make them equip 5-pound trophies

along with the gear and blood of dead enemies

[old crane]

Force religion on them

[cerulean hemlock]

God, I've been talking too much today

[cerulean hemlock]

We call it Divinity

lemme give you guys a quick rundown of me, just in case 1/2 you guys don't know:
I'm Texan-Taiwanese, male, and taken

TMI?

I've killed chat, haven't I?

Ah, hello Redgrave!

well uhh

At least I think I taught you guys something

Since #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 dislikes you guys sometimes 😛

[old crane]

It was an abrupt change in topic lol

[cerulean hemlock]

Ofc

This is me we're talking about!

[golden cipher]

I just have nothing to say, I am again dreadly everything again with candy

[cerulean hemlock]

Meh, it's still losely connected to idleon

[cerulean hemlock]

at least candy is used now! 😛

[golden cipher]

I guess I should use them in last expedtion island

I have 1500 1h and 1300 2h

[cerulean hemlock]

meh, it's fine for now

Dreadlo=dmg&multikill

nothing=most likely nothing

[golden cipher]

the first cool nothing buff is at 10k hours or something like that so uf

as always, in my case because I am rank 50 at dungeon and I have all the artifacts so more flurbos and more artifacts are mñe

[cerulean hemlock]

Yeah I mean ehh

dreadlo will be best for now

and anyways, DK grind for candies is always on the table

[hybrid spindle]

is the strat still to upgrade as few kitchen as possible? Or has that changed because a bonus scales with the amount of overall kitchen upgrades?

[cerulean hemlock]

Pretty sure it's the latter(ladle) now 🙂

[hybrid spindle]

any idea what bonus scales with kitchen upgrades?

[brisk breach]

whats the place to farm a lucky lad statue for beginner or is it just a waiting situation

[cerulean hemlock]

Tropilogs or dreadlo

[brisk breach]

thank you

[formal grove]

anyone have a screenshot of the loadout for active bubo on worms? haven't tinkered with mine in a while i'm pretty sure my cauldron should be higher priority now

[civic hornet]

I run this:

[cerulean hemlock]

Remove skull from the final slot

It might work a bit better

[civic hornet]

it doesn't cast anyways

[formal grove]

thanks!

[civic hornet]

the ghost doesn't cast often either

[brisk breach]

skull loves crashing the game

[golden cipher]

I run this 😕

[cerulean hemlock]

CC should be in the front

[grizzled elk]

CC first

[cerulean hemlock]

CC, then raise, then aura, then gas tubes, not the gassy cloud

[sick sentinel]

[grizzled elk]

gassy cloud, not tubes

[cerulean hemlock]

wait what?

[sick sentinel]

Ghosts do the same thing as cans, domt need cans

[cerulean hemlock]

Have I been... lied to?

[cerulean hemlock]

Ah........

I HAVE been lied to then

[sick sentinel]

Cans need levelled but not slotted

[golden cipher]

I read that ghosts were better

[vocal ibex]

This is news to me

[cerulean hemlock]

Hey,we all learn something everyday

[vocal ibex]

I wanna learn how to love

[hybrid spindle]

ghosts do like 100 something % damage while tubes do like 10%

[cerulean hemlock]

for example, just the other day, I found out I was a noob!
Oh wait.. I already knew that.

[civic hornet]

damage doesn't matter at this point tho

[sick sentinel]

Some weird multilevel maps cans are good, but those arent the maps you would play bubo anyway

[cerulean hemlock]

Start with watering grass

[hybrid spindle]

then it might depend on the map

[cerulean hemlock]

true

[hybrid spindle]

because if you never stand on a platform, you won't spawn ghosts there

so if you still want gas there, then you need the tubes

[grizzled elk]

ghosts travel platforms

[hybrid spindle]

They do!? 👀

[formal grove]

ok, agreement this is loadout for tremor wurms?

[cerulean hemlock]

They... have cars? 😮

[cerulean hemlock]

Yes, srsly though

Agree

[hybrid spindle]

so much for learning something new

[formal grove]

thanks everyone!

[cerulean hemlock]

Sometimes I do aura last though

[vocal ibex]

Im try it. Do they spawn clouds ?

[golden cipher]

yes

[cerulean hemlock]

Equinox spawns clouds too! 😉

[sick sentinel]

Juet remember their clouds dmg is based on cans level still

[golden cipher]

maybe it is late but... which character do you think it is the best for dreadlo with candy?

[civic hornet]

why mine it

just sample

[burnt sail]

Like, mining dreadlo..?

[golden cipher]

dreadlo skulls? I will check the name

[sour oasis]

Eclipse skull?

[golden cipher]

yes, sorry, clipse

[cerulean hemlock]

yep

I forget the names

[golden cipher]

too late for me (3am)

[sour oasis]

Blood berserker with nobisect id think

Or SB

[civic hornet]

sb

[hybrid spindle]

is it worth keeping kitchen below lvl 300 to not get this blue item for dungeons?

or is it actually good and worth getting? although I somehow doubt it when you always want vouchers

[golden cipher]

I was using SB so cool, ty

[cerulean hemlock]

Sleep buddy

[cerulean hemlock]

Btw Shiggy Diggy, I've been wanting to ask you this for a while... is your pfp your irl face?

[clear quartz]

foolishly i active'd overnight on ES, even with everything filtered game crashed, lesson learned

[cerulean hemlock]

ES always crashes

[clear quartz]

back to sleep buddy best overnight friend

[sour oasis]

Hah no thats not me in my profile pic

Random fella i found off the internet

[golden cipher]

I don't like that item but it is just 1item from 30. I did not feel the difference from having it and not having it

[clear quartz]

mine is me tho, i am russian gingerbread man

[cerulean hemlock]

phew I don't want a sixty year old lecturing me 😦

[sick sentinel]

Im so sad rn, just fell to my knees in walmart

[burnt sail]

Is your pfp your irl face?

[cerulean hemlock]

I'm male.

[sour oasis]

Sorry

[burnt sail]

Answer the question

[cerulean hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/furret-pokemon-aaaaa-attack-gift-friendship-gif-25357747

Answer: No.

[burnt sail]

Oh

[cerulean hemlock]

That's an AI picture

I'm Texan-Taiwanese, I look more Asian 😛

Hmm.. discord updated

[clear quartz]

304 cards left to be done with genie, and then.... i guess onward to farming mr bs

[cerulean hemlock]

Why not rubify/

[clear quartz]

im being stingy with the 3 i have left, i think theyre going to go towards more bossu cards when i 4star those

[burnt sail]

You tend to Ruby mob cards as you work through eclipse skulls anyway

[clear quartz]

thinking c chizor, maybe greenzoar, and n troll? idk

[golden cipher]

c chizor and n troll are a must

[sour oasis]

I can tell you blitz troll is cool but not that useful as ruby. However farming ruby with keys is ridiculous

[cerulean hemlock]

ntroll is SO good

[cerulean hemlock]

Why is ntroll bad?

Is it... additive?

Oh god there's someone singing despacito outside

[golden cipher]

he is bad boy

[cerulean hemlock]

someone spare me

[sour oasis]

I mean nothing wrong with a 7% total damage increase but...

[cerulean hemlock]

But...?

[clear quartz]

oh wait, middle troll

[hybrid spindle]

can you already upgrade cards to 5* before unlocking the thing in rifts if you have the premiumifier?

[clear quartz]

derp

[cerulean hemlock]

card doubler is nice though

[vagrant mountain]

chaotic troll and chaotic/nmare chizoar are the best ones that youre missing

[cerulean hemlock]

yes, that's what i did

[hybrid spindle]

i got some too but the question is on what to use them 👀

[clear quartz]

i guess i need to spam some w4 colo and get troll to 4star then pop my rubifier

[golden cipher]

chaotic chizoar is cool? my shrines are so low so just a 5% effect...

[hybrid spindle]

First thought is crystal chance but aren't they farmable? How many cards do you need for poop/genie 5*?

[vagrant mountain]

just buy 4 star cards ez

[cerulean hemlock]

rubify boops

[clear quartz]

already did poop with sb shenanigans, would have done genie afk but the returns per candy were terribad so i actived it for 3 ish days instead

[cerulean hemlock]

*terribAAAAAAd

you have to squeeze in an AAAAAA joke

[hybrid spindle]

okay, so what's first choice for 5* cards you can't farm?

or which are at least unrealistic as of now

[clear quartz]

because i was bad at the game and didnt realize how DK orb worked i only had blueberry 4starred so i did him

[golden cipher]

I used ruby on chocco box

[clear quartz]

unsure if card packs can spawn those so otherwise i didnt wanna wait another year ish for that

[hybrid spindle]

I don't even know what that is ^^

[cerulean hemlock]

ooh, good choice

[hybrid spindle]

ohhh

[cerulean hemlock]

Imagine if it boosted gold food effect TOO

[clear quartz]

only threestar :c

[hybrid spindle]

that's a steep jump

is there a consistent multiplier between 4* and 5* for every card or does it vary?

[cerulean hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/jump-powerrangers-gif-7898282

[clear quartz]

im guessing theres not gonna be a halloween event this year, or

[cerulean hemlock]

Doesn't look too steep

[cerulean hemlock]

Either it's coming this month or 12/25/2023

[clear quartz]

im really looking forward to vday event again, assuming we get more rose stuff

[burnt sail]

Isn't it 4% every rank? Remember that Ruby is 6*, not 5*.

[hybrid spindle]

future content said "falloween" so I'd be pretty confused if there wasn't one

[clear quartz]

sweet

[hybrid spindle]

that's not my point. I meant how many cards you need

[golden cipher]

too many

[hybrid spindle]

because I have 96 and you have 729, so I'm curious how many are actually necessary

[burnt sail]

Oh. Well you said multiplier... yes, the number of cards required increases per rank for every card.

[sour oasis]

The number of cards between diamond and ruby increases by...a crazy amount. Like 10x as much needed for diamond itself? Depends on the card. You need lots

[hybrid spindle]

It's already surreal to 3* nightmare bosses the normal way, now with ruby cards even the possible ones are pretty much unachievable

[clear quartz]

it spikes hard from what ive seen, although only the w4 and w5 ones look particularly heinous, event ones seem reasonable assuming dk shenanigans

well aside from bossu ones, because keys

[hybrid spindle]

reasonable when you have to wait for another event? that's not reasonable ^^

[sour oasis]

Good example:

Crystal carrod ruby is easy.

[hybrid spindle]

see....can't i trade crystal cards for the other ones?

[sour oasis]

Genie however...304->8721

[hybrid spindle]

i got a whole 1300.....that might take a while

[sour oasis]

I think it might be a 28.6875 multiplier for every monster type card

[sharp igloo]

Anyone know why my prints have the gold star next to them instead of the purple swirl? I have doot and am connected to all the lab stuff.

[clear quartz]

smal carrot

imagine yall big bean enjoyers are in the 10mil range

[hybrid spindle]

blue was being in lab, purple was the rabbit constellation iirc but the star 👀 I have no idea tbh

[sharp igloo]

I thought blue was lab, star was rabbit but no lab, and purple was both. Mine are normally purple

[sour oasis]

Yep. probably a visual bug

[golden cipher]

I guess it is due to doot, I had the same issue. At the begining it was jumping from blue to orange but from last patch it is stuck on purple always

[sharp igloo]

Mine has been purple for months and it just switched to star randomly today lol

[clear quartz]

my second ES tends to flicker if i stare at it in sampler

[old crane]

I sometimes get that bug of switching between gold and purple while active

[clear quartz]

schroedingers elemental sorc

[golden cipher]

I recovered the half of my eclipse skulls but it is time to sleep. One last question for night active playing. Is there a best map to farm plunderous mobs?

[clear quartz]

oranges i think

but tremur not too much worse ig

[golden cipher]

I was killing tremor just farm exp an dkeys

[clear quartz]

right, multipurpose holes goals

[golden cipher]

1M plunderous achievement is insane

[clear quartz]

i guess oranges have multiple as well, if you need the joos drops for stampa

[shy lake]

How does divinity work and why do I need to feed a steak to a snake

Or what looks like a snake

[clear quartz]

any other must have ruby cards to get before i retire ES again for the foreseeable future?

[golden cipher]

divinity has two parts. the divinity you chose for a character and its bones and leveling it.
Praying at the altar gives you divinity exp to learn more praying techniques and point to feed the next divinity. It is just random

[shy lake]

So how can I pick the divinity

[clear quartz]

i guess maybe moonmoon and mimic but those are candybait, bopbox probably candybait, and uhhhh

[golden cipher]

I farmed in this order: Card drop chance (4cards) > total Drop rate > crystal mob spawn chance > multikill per tier

[clear quartz]

i guess i could active on suggmas and finally work toward getting the stupid recipe as well

yeah mk solid

wait 4 cards, did i forget to use one

stache, frogga, snelbie, what else

[golden cipher]

you have to first pray and discover the snake

[shy lake]

How much do I have to feed em

Until he just pops into existence or

[golden cipher]

it is random

[shy lake]

The other food has a higher chance of him existing or nah

[fathom lagoon]

Anyone know if iOS party dungeon issue has been fixed? Where you couldn’t join parties before

[golden cipher]

you farm points (not experience) and you offer the god something (a steak a stick)

[shy lake]

Should I just spam the lower level food

Instead of a steak

[golden cipher]

I prefer spam lower level food but it is random

there is also a random expensiveoption about a 100%

[clear quartz]

oh egg blobba

[shy lake]

Wat is it

[clear quartz]

i dont have it

[shy lake]

Is it not a steak

[golden cipher]

if you use the steak the offer may change

[shy lake]

What am I looking for then fo the 100%

[golden cipher]

so in steak slot may appear a more expensive one

[clear quartz]

i did lower lvl ones until i hit the last 3 gods or so, then things are so expensive i just did lower lvl until i got 100% on the right side to proc and saved for that

[shy lake]

Oh it's just a more expensive steak?

[golden cipher]

this is the last card drop but you can not farm it (appart from frogs, snelby and stache)

time to sleep, bb

[golden cipher]

tithe is 25%, there is other for 50% and a last one for 100%

[clear quartz]

i think true pain is gonna be getting resource rubies

at least the w5 ones, can probably strugglebus and candy the others relatively well

[golden cipher]

until w3 is "easy"

[clear quartz]

yeah getting alien logs is gonna be pain

probably will rubify that one if more get added to gem shop

[mint creek]

If I haven't finished the chain of quests to unlock the last quest of the mole guy, and I manage to drop the divine wings, will I still get credit for it when I get there?

Or do I have to be on the quest to get the credit (i assume this is the case)

[sharp igloo]

How is this even possible lol?

[clear quartz]

the respawn thing

[sharp igloo]

Bubo's?

Oh didnt realize that worked there

Thanks

[novel scarab]

any updated vman guide?

[clear quartz]

i got 1200 with pretty low seconds invested with bubo and only 4 of the respawn, ill get it eventually i hop

so just gotta hope a good map combo for mage spawns in the coming weeks

[sharp igloo]

Lol of course

[last vortex]

That is good for me

[potent maple]

is hampters farmed better with DK or ES?

[clear quartz]

ES

plus that map is godawful arrangement for deekay

i need to go ham on some construction soon, really looking forward to construction mastery bonii

[sonic ferry]

@sharp igloo I used siege breaker and it was quick and ez for me

[leaden karma]

farming battery ES or DK?

[clear quartz]

ES or maybe sb with candies isnt too horrendous

[leaden karma]

ok tnx

[cyan hazel]

Do we have a chart that shows the best fishing accessories for sampling the Seasalt Island fish?

[autumn wasp]

we have different ratios because 20k is a significantly larger portion of your stack than compared to mine

[old crane]

Same as the others in the fish chart, based on depth

[heavy moth]

dmg buff from equinox is good was 51T before now 55T

[cyan hazel]

Ok. Thank you. That's what I was thinking. And pool doesn't seem to matter?

[cerulean hemlock]

WOOP WOOP!

[heavy moth]

half way to 1Q on SB ahah getting close

[cerulean hemlock]

😄

[old crane]

haven't heard about pool difference on seasalt yet

[cyan hazel]

And one last question. Equinox?

[old crane]

has all depths/diff pools in one pool, you click on it after already fishing to switch depth

[spice meadow]

We need to start a petition to add music to w5

[rough wasp]

well @signal osprey I didn't get your hand me down 2m nugget but I did get an upgrade

[spice meadow]

2m???

How?

[signal osprey]

I got like 4 new nugs with the update before I got the 2m. You just have to get each hand me down in order

[spice meadow]

o

[rough wasp]

I got 4 so next one is 2m right?
33k->77k->79k->96k

[fast grail]

How risky is doing gaming during TD?

[spice meadow]

Busted

[light elk]

You might be shocked to hear that Francis has a 55m nug

[signal osprey]

You're missing my 300k nug first. After that its 2m

[spice meadow]

And here i am with a 10 nug

I think i might have to do equinox

[light elk]

Aww you'll get a juicy nug in no time, the shovel hell is only starting

[signal osprey]

Assuming you have the wave in a position where you dont need to spam abilities it should be fine

[spice meadow]

Just starting on my divinity, trying to unlock my 4th god

I think i will put everyone on the 1exp for all until i get a better prayer, is my line of thinking right?

[lilac path]

If u get them all to lv40 div
At 40 u can get exp even when fighting

[fast grail]

Too lazy to actually use abilities during TD, so sounds good

[spice meadow]

Yeah!

[merry pulsar]

anybody wanna look at my effiency and tell me some things i should be doing? like 2 or 3 things just to point me in the right direction

[cursive forge]

does this means I need to get a mage to this island to hit the dummy?

if thats the case then I cant get this reward xd

[sour oasis]

Use some balloons and get them up to level 30

Pretty sure thats all you need

[wanton kernel]

what character should i be farming the magma boots on? ive had my dk there for about 18 hours with no luck?

[sour oasis]

You have 5 days to gather and use about 200 balloons. cant remember the exact number for me but green balloons are preeeeetty good

ES good for farming recipes

[wanton kernel]

ty

[fast grail]

Level 30 fishing should be fairly trivial by the time you are in w5

[modern plaza]

i think that’s one of the best ideas i’ve heard! load up a good TD game and pop your chems

[modern plaza]

i went from 49k to 418k after a full sesh of those 15chems for the one cloud

the full shovel investment definitely makes gaming better

[fluid tinsel]

How do I get to over x20 DR? I've stacked everything I have, obols, keychains, lucky lad, chips to dupe stuff, cards, card set, gear, bubble, sigil non boosted... I even have the island explorer pack, and I can't break past x14, x15 max (on a DK). I know Im missing the spillage star talent but that won't be an extra x5

[swift wharf]

I think the highest is like 16?

[sick sentinel]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1141880730411094106

[unreal fox]

hi guys, what is this on idleontoolbox?

[sick sentinel]

Its the equinox upgrade for meal cost decrease

[burnt sail]

Buff from Equinox. Don't think it's implemented properly, as I haven't even upgraded it but I still get the notification.

[sick sentinel]

Ye some things lookin a bit buggy on toolbox for the new stuff

Glad its getting there tho

[unreal fox]

yeah i think so, i haven't upgraded it yet

[sick sentinel]

My toolbox says i have one of the first sigils done and need to switch still lol

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-its-okay-rocky-you-go-when-you-feel-like-it-gif-21084732

Me with my toolbox

[chrome tiger]

turns out 200 green stacks is a lot

[unborn charm]

does king doot pet have the negative effects of the gods? main reason im asking is cos my characters lab levels arent above 70 yet and i was wondering if ive been locked

[scenic ledge]

Yeah I'm only upto like 15 green stacks atm ;-; I'm still like mid game with just being able to kill w5 boss normal

[scenic ledge]

They dont

[chrome tiger]

i'm at 150 and there's not a ton of really easy stuff

[sharp wind]

Whats your plunder kill?

Multi goes crazy

Also crystal companion

[unborn charm]

as in they don't stop gaining exp in lab?

[scenic ledge]

I need to work on my plunder kills

[scenic ledge]

I belive they still need to be acually placed in the lab to gain the xp but don't quote me on this even with the God where they always active in lab doesn't mean they are connected

[proud pumice]

when they're in lab they gain exp, when they're out they don't

[scenic ledge]

So u can always use them but only gain the xp when they are physically in lab

[unborn charm]

ah i see thanks

[scenic ledge]

All good man

[somber hull]

Is the new Boss Gear even better than the Magma Core Gear? All Stats seem so much better than dmg or?

[rough wasp]

Respawn op for afk

[somber hull]

but thats only shirt and skirt

not the hat

or shoes

[rough wasp]

hat and shoes are DR

and DR is very good

[somber hull]

Better than all Stats earlier on?

[sour oasis]

In the end, it feels like all stat is really only useful for damage. Which is nice, but more damage can always be made. Drop rate is harder to come by

Eventually you want both. Magma for skilling and samples, divine for farming

[merry pulsar]

whats the max level cost on the alchemy cauldron upgrades?

[somber hull]

wow, i am struggling tp even equip 10 chars with any of those armors. only 3 have full gear so far

[proud pumice]

the whole p2w tab ends at 2-3 dementia coins

[merry pulsar]

i meant on the brewing tab

my b

[somber hull]

never

just gets too expensive at some point i guess?

[proud pumice]

the cap and rate? as far as i know they go infinite

[vestal delta]

max level is 170 for boosts, not sure what the costs are though...just mindlessly held down click until they maxed

bubbles go infinitely

[merry pulsar]

ty ty ❤️

[somber hull]

what boosts do you mean?

[vestal delta]

there are 25 bubbles total but you can keep unlocking past that to unlock hypothetical bubbles that will be unlocked later. for example, I'm at like 5~ bubbles past the final unlock.

[somber hull]

ahh ty. never knew that. only at 150 so far

[hidden osprey]

does the amount of guildboxes i get depends on how much gp i got ?

[proud pumice]

no, it depends on the lvl of your guild "guild gifts" upgrade

[hidden osprey]

oh thanks

[sour oasis]

Why are these showing as not found on slab? This is the IE page

[somber hull]

So Equinox gives new killroy bonuses... are they worth it?

[dapper prism]

Random Tip if you ever resample. Try and get the W3 ice cream quest chain done up to and including where you have to take 2 samples. That way you don't have to worry about relic resets in the future.

2ndly, the yondergreen also requires a pen sample, and 4 shrines placed. annoying af but once done its done ig

If there's any more sample/shrine quests that i may have missed, plz let me know xD

[clear quartz]

ill have to finish those after w6, assuming shrines get moved there

or ig after i get doot and stop parking dudes in lab

[dapper prism]

Yeh im planning on sacrificing some time on shrines atm

[clear quartz]

pain time

maybe i should active es and idle everyone here too to speed it up a slight bit, but its gonna suck

[dapper prism]

probably a lot faster/easier to grind some keys, kill bosses, buy cardifier (if u havent bought cardifier cap yet)

Or Pens -> PO -> colo

[clear quartz]

i have 3 cardifiers left, 2 i think i was planning on middle troll and some chizar thing

greenzoar and redzoar i suppose if i ever do get redzoar up to snuff, and ofc middle troll

[ocean fox]

Just onyxed every statue lets gooo
lets see how much my damage increases

[clear quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/sanic-the-hedgehob-running-gotta-go-fast-fast-gif-4964355

[spark scaffold]

Any good bubo guides out there

[ocean fox]

My statue levels are low too, since I got choccy chip then onyx statues came out so I never had a chance to farm

[ocean fox]

Uhhh what did you want to know? I dont know of a specific one but Im sure people here can answer

[spark scaffold]

Any good bubo active combat guides**

Sorry just hit w5 and i wanna go higher in combat

[clear quartz]

i need to work some statues more, hopefully soon

[spark scaffold]

Not sure what talents level

[ocean fox]

But if you're looking for a "guide"
I would just say
Make sure tent is above 200, CC, raise dead, aura, spirit as the order

[spark scaffold]

Ty

[ocean fox]

If you dont have 200 tent do not do CC farming
Full stop
Just farm previous worlds and catchup with ES, depending on your account
The efficeincy from 200 tent will make weeks of farming obsolete for you

[clear quartz]

and oranges best map until you can bust all over wurms, then wurm is p good. or some other earlier maps if your dmg is real bad

[ocean fox]

Yeah, I used to do Flom with under 200 tent, but in my defense I was desperate to unlock new bubbles
its not worth it

[clear quartz]

like i think early bubo is maybe cans map or jellyfish before youre up to w5 shenanigans

[spark scaffold]

Ahh

Ok thanks

[ocean fox]

Ok I did say all that, but feel free to use bubo with that setup on cans for your once or twice a day that you want to bump alchemy
Just dont active
Just cc on cooldown

[dapper prism]

still do daily CC's for water

[ocean fox]

This is mine atm

[dapper prism]

to have enough for daily atom collider, or shop discounts/obols etc.

[clear quartz]

that reminds me, i need to buy my books

pog, got 203 lvl

[ocean fox]

Shoot you just reminded me.
Well time for a single max level book day

[clear quartz]

iirc 204 is the best?

oh yeah those books too

[ocean fox]

Alright just to confirm, deposit all is no longer bugged with statue exp bubble and onyx right?

[clear quartz]

30 cards in 15 mins, so....

115 hours ish depening to get ruby. bleh

[sour oasis]

I am impressed you have two soul/seesaw/box onyxed before any w4 statues or cauldron. I feel like cauldron esp is easier to onyx than the w3 statues

[ocean fox]

It is for sure lol. I just wanted to get it out of the way

I do have them all onyxed now i just didnt update my toolbox

[sour oasis]

My last test with 80bil damage and 9.5x DR on my ES i was getting like...not quite 100 statues an hour. If i recall. Like some really low numbers

Feelsl like it shouldnt be taking me 200 active hours to get onyx

[ocean fox]

I was at 120 B with 12ish and I was only getting 300 per hour
And I didnt want to waste the mob drops so i couldnt do it overnight cause storage

[dapper prism]

honestly order isnt even that important for onyx

just get them all 😄

[proud pumice]

last i heard about it if you deposit from your inventory to the statueman or deposit all from your storage it works fine, but if you deposit all from your inventory it doesn't work properly

[spark scaffold]

Whats tent for bubo?

[dapper prism]

Talent in shaman

[clear quartz]

tenteycle on the shaman

[ocean fox]

tenteycle talent. The one that reduces cooldown on kill

[dapper prism]

most important talent 😄

[sour oasis]

Thats mine

[clear quartz]

i forget, did we get an update recently that reset how many cardifiers were in shop? wasnt sure if the 7 i bought were from awhile back or from the recent thing

unsure if i wanna just spend the ones i have and let future me worry about cardifying bosses i dont even have to 4 stars, since i dont really wanna be farming for 5 ish days on brightside

[ocean fox]

Weee

[atomic dune]

Does anyone know if Mantra stacks or not? If 1 character styling in Mantra = all character gains 1Xp per hour, what about multiple characters? Does it become 2XP for all character if 2 were styling and so on?

[dapper prism]

Thats basically the whole point of mantra

but mantra sucks early on

?mantra

!mantra

[obtuse orbit]

Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.

In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.

(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)

[dapper prism]

^ also keep this in mind

It also doesnt get affected by double xp claims like other stances.

[burnt sail]

Didn't know there was a command for it.. I was about to do a whole lot of typing.

[atomic dune]

I see, tho mantra does suck, my divinity level isn't high enough to reach 25 yet

[dapper prism]

You don't need 25?

Divinity is about points, not about xp

You want gods, not levels

See pins, i wrote a whole thing there, but you want to maximize your points

[atomic dune]

True, but need some levels for easy point gathering

[dapper prism]

Not really

Level 10, Focus, has the best Points until 60

[atomic dune]

Instead of using chakra for 2xp for an hour for all characters, if mantra gives 1xp and stacks for all character, 10xp easy

[dapper prism]

Even if you maximize XP (which I did) with all gem shop xp multipliers, you would still not be lvl 60 by the time you have all core gods

[atomic dune]

Currently on goat

So focus on getting focus first then

[dapper prism]

If you are close to 25, and have goat (although i wouldnt stop until tiger) then you could go for vitalic

[zealous niche]

True, but the points for deities is much more important than exp

It’s better to get all deities, then do a full mantra after if you don’t have tranqi

[dapper prism]

Thing is, even if you were 25 you get half points, but more xp. Even at 40, you only get xp. It takes a long time to 60 especially without all the multipliers that you will only honestly unlock AFTER you already reached tiger.

[zealous niche]

If you have tranqi (40 iirc) then you just turn that on and call div done

[dapper prism]

Also remember, Tiger is 2x XP and Points for div

[zealous niche]

If you push exp hard, the end point for div becomes much further

[atomic dune]

Aight, points for tiger then i can focus on the leveling

thanks fam

[dapper prism]

pretty much

[dapper prism]

side note, tiger will also give sail speed.

[atomic dune]

A much needed aspect for artifacts

[amber dagger]

Honestly just get doot

[zealous niche]

Tiger doesn’t activate with doot

It should

But doesn’t

[ocean fox]

whats a good point to stop at in regards to statue farming, just wondering when I should move on to Bubo for life grind

[zealous niche]

Depends on the rest of your account

[obsidian nacelle]

errr whats the setup for w5 td?

[zealous niche]

Sorry, got distracted before finishing the answer

Statues, you could onyx a few of the important ones

[ocean fox]

I've onyxed all of them

[zealous niche]

But ideally you’d onyx all

Ah

Then things like max speed with the craftable speed skill food items

[ocean fox]

I meant more long term
Like ik move speed is important end game since quick slap, and same with feasty and stuff. I just onyxed em all so i was wondering how much I should farm before its buboing time

[zealous niche]

So, feasty to get to that

Cauldron would be good if you need 1000 alchemy

[ocean fox]

I posted it earlier, this is the current levels

[dapper prism]

Dont really need much of it nor quick slap to really get dmg if the rest of your account is well rounded

[zealous niche]

I’m below you in progress though, so looking forward to what I’d like statues for

[ocean fox]

Ah I see, I'm just looking for ways to push damage since I wanna kill NM KK with my voidwalker sometime soon
But I guess I'll push it off for my next biweekly resampling

[dapper prism]

Well rounded account 😄

is the answer

[ocean fox]

I like to believe I have a well rounded account, then I look at my worship and cry

[junior bobcat]

Has anyone killed choatic kattlecruk on their vman? im looking for tips to get that done and how much dmg you had at the time. he's my 7th character so i need it for the weapon

[worn pasture]

best location to farm w5 status?

[dapper prism]

pins

[worn pasture]

statues*

[ocean fox]

Idk if its the best, but if ur just farming statues I would just recommend wurms for the keys and money you can get as well

[worn pasture]

true i guess

I've been killing oranges because its an easy map

[ocean fox]

Actually Trickzbunny, can I poke your head a bit on a question about construction?

[ocean fox]

I think that works too

In terms of mob density and such

[dapper prism]

later, going afk for a little

[ocean fox]

kk

[amber dagger]

Is tiger the only one?

[rapid locust]

So I've been stuck trying to unlock cloud 5 for like 3 days now. it's 120k/120k but there's no option to unlock it?

[ocean fox]

Might be a rounding issue, which if so, means ur really unlucky

[rapid locust]

so is there nothing I can do then? just a bug report?

[ocean fox]

I would just do one more trip to see if it unlocks

[amber goblet]

i think it means you just gotta wait a tiny bit more

like if you are at 119.99k it can show as 120k

so waiting one final trip can get you that final portion

[rapid locust]

well I've been doing trips for 3 days at 120/120

with 2 guys 😦

[amber goblet]

oh well shit, id toss one guy on there for a quick trip and hope it solves itself this time

[rapid locust]

i guess i can just throw my new guy in there and hope for the best

[amber goblet]

good idea, may as well get him some exp lol

[rapid locust]

i still have some single talent captains, maybe i'll just replace them with cloud captains and hammer it

ill file a bug report in the morning and maybe there will be a fix later. there's still a lot of other sailing to do

[amber goblet]

So is div chance effected by luck at all?

[light elk]

To unlock gods? Not at all, the % you see is what you get

[raven fog]

How long did yall take to get 20000 bullsie statues

[dapper prism]

Either 1k/h active es or 100/h candy

@raven fog

[viscid fossil]

how does super chow work?

[dapper prism]

in what sense? essnetially same as zoe and chow

[viscid fossil]

like where does it show up whats the req to unlock it stuff like that

[fast grail]

Same as Zow/chow, but 100m, only gets weird if you have 2BB

Super chow unlocks from vman enhancement talent

[dapper prism]

Vman Eclipse talent lvl 125 i think

5th bonus on it

[viscid fossil]

thank you was confused why I couldent find it

[runic token]

can I use 7 party starters? or does the effect fall off somehow after 6? I've just never seen a build with more than 6 is all.

[dapper prism]

There's a lot of builds with 7 atm?

[runic token]

oh really? seemed like everyone was spamming kraken

[dapper prism]

Pancake TD W1 Goblin
https://i.imgur.com/VovPzAp.png

[runic token]

cool that answers it thanks

[dapper prism]

Gotta get those krakens to like 0.45 or something

Also remember that tower placement order is important

[runic token]

trying to get 121 on citric right now

i think I'm gonna get it this run

[weary granite]

does loot value help with discovering new islands in sailing or does it just do nothing

[dapper prism]

loot value is more loot

discovering islands blocked by a cloud is cloud discover rate*

[weary granite]

alright I thought it could like get more discovery points per claim or smth, I gotta start getting better captains lol

[weary granite]

wave 200 sounds crazy, Lavas gotta add another cosmetic tier for lvl 25 towers now with the new buffs

[runic token]

mmmm failed at 120, got overrun, krakens got pushed back

[iron citrus]

I failed at 112

Though my towers around lvl60ish

[dreamy kayak]

which cards are worth to get to level 5?

[iron citrus]

Needs more build speed, like 6b per tower atm

Only 22mil per hour

[raven fog]

Es not DK whaat

[raven fog]

No way i get lkrk 9 if i use one hour candy and i jave 17 dr

[untold saffron]

How many kraken you running

[runic token]

for this run I only had 4 at lvl 15, they were .50 by the time I lost

x1 storm bbb
x1 frost bbb
x1 void bb
x3 poison baa
x4 kraken baa
x7 party aaab

in that order

[dry musk]

Wtf level 90 ^^ maybe in 2026

[untold saffron]

If that's for OJ Bay I'd drop 2 or 3 party for kraken, that's what I used

[runic token]

yeah oj bay

[untold saffron]

7 kraken got me to 140

[runic token]

just 7 kraken in a row?

or put frost in the middle somewhere

[untold saffron]

Poison, void, Poison, ice, Poison, 7 kraken

5 party up top

[runic token]

oh interesting

[untold saffron]

1 on the end of kraken

[runic token]

poison on the left side of the portal?

[untold saffron]

Lightning

[runic token]

alright I'll try that, what about the upgrades? were mine fine?

[untold saffron]

I did AAAA party and BBAA ice but otherwise the same ye

[runic token]

alright I'll try that thanks for your input

[untold saffron]

Good luck :]

[runic token]

should I go bba or bbb on storm

[stable berry]

Ayo how do y’all get more than 10B efficiency for mining? Does str stat bubble help and stamps of course

[raven fog]

Yah and so many other thing that adds up ocer time

All stat helps talents

Lots and lots

[zealous niche]

Most of the first orange bubbles help

Does the invisible mob in Doot respawn by itself? Was thinking of throwing my BB onto it to finish the zow

[runic token]

😦 same thing happened, got overrun at 120:
storm bba
poison baa
void bb
poison baa
ice bba
poison baa
x7 kraken baa
x5 party aaaa

guess I'll just lvl up towers some more

cannoli lvl43
atom 122%
storm lvl60
ice lvl58
void lvl27
poison lvl53
kraken lvl52
party lvl57

[balmy harness]

What is the best Bait and Fishing Line for Seasalt island?

[wise smelt]

Guys, is this worth to buy?

[wind umbra]

pretty sure u should be able to get through 120 with those towers. Only glaring issue i see is that you are using b on frozone instead of a

or ur setup isnt good

[wind umbra]

same as other places

depends on which depth fish u want

[potent maple]

do you want a premium hat?

[wind umbra]

nope only thing worth while from that shop is golden stopwatch

other things are just filler

[potent maple]

pink headband only 999 trophies!!! 😄

[wise smelt]

ofc))

[potent maple]

do you not have any other premium hats that have no other stats? personally i'd go for a premium hat that had stats and modifiers on it, but if you like this one and don't want good stuff, it's your game

i wouldn't waste someone else's gems on it, let alone trophies, but if you're exited abiut it, i can see how it's kinda cute or something

wait, it's not even premium hat, says it's perfect for "premiumify-ing" so it's not even that

[wise smelt]

@potent mapleso now ure collecting 999 for pink hat?

[potent maple]

no?

gold stopwatches like danyun said

pink headband is like meme level joke at this point

if i HAD 999+ trophies with nothing else to spend it on, sure, i'd buy a shitty hat, otherwise i'm not saving for a pink hat atm 😄

[wise smelt]

xD

ok)) thanks for answers))

[potent maple]

its been in the slab for so long even before there WAS a slab, and always been "unobtainable" so all of a sudden it's obtainable lol

[wise smelt]

xD

[potent maple]

is this toolbox working out it's update or is there something i'm missing here? i dont know what food lust is

i assume it's something i haven't unlocked yet

[heady torrent]

Equinox upgrade

[potent maple]

yes.

you can tell by the pic

other than that, i don't have anything unlocked that looks like this pic

[eternal dove]

You can tell it's an aspen bc of the way that it is

[potent maple]

what's an aspen?

[eternal dove]

I'm just quoting a meme

[potent maple]

ah!

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-the-larch-number1-gif-14982127

its ok, you can make fun of me for being a boomer

i wouldnt be surprised if i have a very common equinox right now

i can probably knock out lucky lad trophy before anything else

[feral hemlock]

Max dr and candying? For employment statistics greenstack?

[late grove]

is there optimal way for 140 wave in worship

[potent maple]

i'd pass, just like i would pass on mustard or the seeds you need to get into w2 dungeon etc

[potent maple]

which fight, check pins and https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084911530417606656

i saw builds on ze youtubes, some are older but they are a start

[raven fog]

Why did u pick tp upgrade this

[late grove]

couldn't find it

[worldly hollow]

finally after 3 month i got a upgrade lol

also is god rank worth it? just got the last god unlocked, and it rolled a 100m for a 50% chance lol

[cloud tiger]

There's a post a big higher up about doing vengeful Frogger with DK. I was doubtful that I'd be able to solo it but if you get the talent that provides 4 purple probs on start then pick coinflip and pray for the legendary that increases your crit damage insanely (but non-crits do 0 damage) then you should be able to solo it. I did it after 2 runs and I'm by no means a dungeon veteran.

[steady beacon]

I've finally unlocked max level books! I've done DK 's squire, vman's right hand, and es' wormhole so far. Will hit bubo skills next, but after that:
Should I focus on maxing out one character's skills first (leaning towards my es farmer), or continue spreading it out over characters? Any other essential skills I should prioritize?

[worldly hollow]

depends on how fast your checkout is, and your goals for your characters

[steady beacon]

I get about 1 max book a day atm

I'm around lbl 60 on my library.

[worldly hollow]

with equinox and the liquid boost id say go bubo for active play

still need a little work

[sweet mountain]

what comp should i use to get to pet arena lvl 100 with only 4 pets?

[worldly hollow]

statue skill for the little bit of extra gains lol

speaking of which i have a full check out ready to go lol

[gilded salmon]

Do you guys have higher Gmush/h on ES or SB?

[worldly hollow]

SB and ES

true, def didnt optimize for a quick ss lol

[iron citrus]

Doing this one now on Oj, wave 90 boss atm no.probems so far fingers crossed was max 60 before this go

[steady beacon]

Took me about a dozen attempts on dk using that strategy, but it does work!

[worldly hollow]

first solo i still had like 3 mins left lol

[iron citrus]

I had like 3seconds left on my run

[worldly hollow]

didnt know if you exited if it would count

[iron citrus]

Finally did it tho

[worldly hollow]

i didnt know about coin flip and foal, and did it like a regular run and was off by 2 drops for 4th frog

then i saw someone talk about it on here since it was the new hot thing and it was cake

[dense prism]

any endgamer here that could tell me their cc time ?

[worldly hollow]

meaning how long it takes to start over or how many secs?

[dense prism]

how many s

[worldly hollow]

havent looked in awhile. lemme set him up

[dense prism]

ty

[worldly hollow]

and i wouldnt call myself an endgamer by any means but im alright lol

[dense prism]

i just feel like getting cookin roadkill doesnt really get me that much higher im at 320k atm

[worldly hollow]

any map pref?

[dense prism]

so i wanted to compare how much off a diff it makes

wurms

[potent maple]

Thanks!

[worldly hollow]

oof. highest damage ive seen him at 802b

[slender sandal]

Top endgame is like 450k for cc iirc

[dense prism]

t<

[worldly hollow]

902b. almost ready lol

[steady beacon]

So confused. I seem to have lost a whole point of DR, and can't figure out where from. I've checked lab chips, vman luck skill, all my cards, obols... No clue where else to check.

[worldly hollow]

oh shit

[steady beacon]

Ah, I'll check that one! Might be sb.

[worldly hollow]

over 1t

on the high side that is lol

nice seeing 15-20t hits tho

[steady beacon]

Wait, would be talent affect other characters? Which one?

[worldly hollow]

plunder mob kills

cant think of the name

i saw as low as 10

304% crit says hello lol

i think 10 is the lowest it shows for t dmg

ive done it on a few. ill have to go through the quest log to see who still needs it

oof only 227k my alchemy might be lacking a little lol

fair point lol

and now that i actually sat down and did my samples correctly for the important ones im actually getting a decent amount of atoms

[potent maple]

bad sampling is better than no sampling, but i hear ya, i have trouble w it too!

give it a shot and you'll be rewarded with how much better your samples are even if you don't try hard

[bright current]

road to green stack continues

[sacred dove]

shuold i use vman to place traps or beastmaster?

[tacit lion]

yes

[sacred dove]

ah ok so vman for exp, and beastmaster for critters

thanks

[worldly hollow]

i know i have a few bubbles "unlocked" that arent out yet no telling how many new ones are coming

but whats your cooking speed at? lol

i spent a couple hundred tickets pushing dk through w4 colo and it paid off immensely

[steady beacon]

Do you use the vman transfusion skill when setting the traps?

[worldly hollow]

i wish i would have waited or had any idea about equinox and the 100k ladles i didnt use that many but it would have been nice to not use all that i did lol

[clear quartz]

gonna make another attempt at TD 121s...

[worldly hollow]

it did make me unlock all the meals tho, so thats a plus lol

and cc is back up and going again. time to sleep and come back to all of the liquid lol

[placid timber]

why did lava say " why bother have so much storage" then adds luckier lad....

[clear quartz]

any good setups for post equinox TD? think i saw some links the other day but cant find them now

[placid timber]

one toon?

[prisma drift]

#endgame-gen-chat message

Someone linked all them into one message

[tender chasm]

anyone got something that shows maximum drop rate achieveable atm ingame

[tender rampart]

What's the best way to farm lucky lads?

[urban gorge]

good?

is loot value the best skill or no?

[tender chasm]

I can only find a calculator. It would be nicer to see max so i can see where exactly im lagging. I think ive seen it before, or it was for something else i cant remember.

[indigo latch]

shouldn't this be +3?

ah okay, thanks

[light bison]

Is collecting sailing when chest pile is full better or let it upgrade with SB talent btter?

[viral lava]

Omg what sheepie be doing on thereeee

[vale wadi]

how high is your droprate?

[clear quartz]

what da dawg doin

[prisma drift]

Goin for 8K today

[uncut sierra]

For CC tremor worm or citringe best ?

[unkempt egret]

yaaaaay... finally. after 102m active kills by my ES on Suggmas... I finally got the stupid recipie (12.6x droprate)

now my VM can finally go through the line to get last fist

[prisma drift]

Tremor

[tidal sky]

we should use Vman speedrun to print the most amount of frisbee right?

[prisma drift]

Green stack frisbees

[unkempt egret]

other than ring and one quest, or potentially another green stack, is there a use for frisbee?

[winter gale]

any guide about progressing in sailing late game?

[prisma drift]

Golden hampsters and sailing box from PO

Go for 2 hour claims if you can

For speed captains and leveling up the god passive is big

[round violet]

If you have king doot ,does its bonus apply again

??

[prisma drift]

And you need someone linked to him still

[round violet]

Damn

[fast grail]

Purrmap is the only god where you actually need someone linked even with doot

[prisma drift]

I have such fat fingers I just deleted a 150% cog

Maybe I should turn my mouse dpi down

[burnt sail]

Wait what... oops

[tidal sky]

it is possible i believe

[prisma drift]

Oh it for sure is

But it’s slow

I haven’t been playing long so I can’t afford to atom quick slap

So I use vman to print coconuts

[high pasture]

for circle obols is it better to go full base stat or full base damages

[burnt veldt]

Seesaw statue farming, active ES or DK ?

[prisma drift]

ES

[unkempt egret]

cryosnakes has too many platforms, ES would be better

[burnt veldt]

16k left 😄 🔫

[prisma drift]

I just candied statues

2 weeks of active ES sounds like pain

[burnt veldt]

25 statues at 1h candy

:/

13% DR

[unkempt egret]

W3 statues are the worst in my opinion >_>;;

w5 may be slow, but at least you feel like you are doing something

[burnt veldt]

only missing w3 statues

[unkempt egret]

W1,W2,W4 statues all easy

[burnt veldt]

• 680 h in time candy just for the one onyx

[prisma drift]

Yeah I think I was getting like 50 per candy

I used like 2000 hours lol

[unkempt egret]

W3 was just... pain. (at least just about capped off pen vial though)