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But they are talking about Gmush Candying (or afking)
The 18-24% afk of Kattles are way better than a dmg tier
You right
It is only a +1 Slab item. The stats are really bad
Better off waiting for DR Talent or Golden Stopwatches
Hi, does this mean even characters that are not praying? Or only the other ones praying?
!mantra
Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.
In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.
(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)
I realise that doesn't actually answer your question
It'll give it to those not even praying
Okay, thank you ๐
Any tips regarding getting the 1b sample?
Got to love doing solo W1 dungeon and not having enough materials for the 3rd cauldron so just sat swinging on the tree hoping for the best
More eff
Is the increase cap/rate for Equinox cap/rate or Alchemy?
<insert alchemy diagram>
But like would it be easiest to sample copper, logs, ... ?
logs
It's made by me xd
what meal level does vman cooking bonus get good
I've heard it's around 1.2K
is 1 atom equal as 10m or 1m?
10m
What lvl is reuqired in Divinity to get the minor link bonus maxed out?
finally
Almost done with 500 BB 
If it's still the cactus, Cinderbane had one on youtube
Wish it was a little better bonus 
3% damage

can the printer hurry up pls ๐
u can only get 174 spices per day, IF u claim everytime at 1, otherwise its lower
wow got an anoyying bug on critical conflict... 1 purple got away. and my krakens on the back pushed it back when it was at the edge near the totem. so 1 purple took 20 life in like 5 sek ......
i meant for beat box this rotation, but i managed to beat this one...apparently it is easier if folks need the 5 skull kill for equinox
120ish, i dont think it really hits the cap, it just gets expo close
level 141 i get 4.7 on goat 125 got 4.6
Ah then, its got to be 200 something. Im around 105 and assumed it would cap there
probably diversify
dont u have to dump all 100k in 1 stack
but you can have several diffrent things cooking
if u have vman it doesnt matter
also how you got 100k ladles already
wdym it doesnt matter?
just pick the fastest dishes that do something and GG
idk? maybe afking?
:0
you been hoarding them since before equinox?
You can select meals per table to split it up
yeah but like theres is no specific that should get boosted?
went from 19 snail back to 15
Cabbage or cherries

Or the soda
isnt going to be super important in the long run
Im going to do speed and efficiency meals pribably
but yeah do several diffrent meals
when in doubt turkeys
why use anti fun spirit? lol (and i just realized discord was open at 6:50 am)
300% afk gains achieveable without doot?
Yes
Why wouldn't it be
Still poison kraken freeze void
All that's changed is that the damage creep is not that much of a problem anymore allowing you to actually progress
Thereโs stuff in endgame channel for getting into wave 200 on a bunch of the TDs
do you get more breeding exp for higher rarity eggs?
or should i just spam regular eggs for exp, almost 70
Is this selling or buying a new captain?
Buying
don't worry, they get a lot better, and they also don't as well
Just noticed something was wrong with my gear LOL
howdy partner ๐ค
Yeah if you're not looking for it that's damn near invisible
@tacit tulip #lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message
case in point 
Decibop box is quite dead this week
how does the shimmer island work?
do the tasks they ask of you
there is no task
acquire shimmers
spend shimmers
repeat
thats why I ask#
ahhhh
blue guy gives tasks
pink/purple is the shop
I just unlocked 2nd god, how o i get my ES linked to 2 gods?
there was like no indicator so I was confused
Lvl 0 on talent doesn't count for snek
Thanks
How about.. Level -1???
if you right click the post while it's open you can follow the post and it will always be something you can click. that way you won't have to find it again
i clicked follow but i dont see it in that channel
screen shot your channel bar
Suhweet thanks bro, 5 starโd it
gaming is such a lackluster skill to progress
once you get to the last 4 boxes its so meh
dopamine
they are fake gainz
gotta get to the last superbits somehow
is the +10 atom lvl upgr even attainable
probably now with a lvl 25 snail and a massive nug
pain
prob not something happening soon still tho
another day, another snail fail 
Yeah, it's back to the next 5
lmao
?
10th character
I am
I think im going to
Its either that or a second ES/ bubo
yeah, gee, i wonder what would be better
a useless 2nd vman or a gigachad 2nd ES for mega prints
Lol
you think im mother frickin kidding with u right now??
Prior to w5 bubo 2 was suggested ๐
Ok ok ๐ฅฒ
Salty. 
Yes?
Btw is my account good https://sergi0.idleonefficiency.com ( i know i forgot abt so many importans things )
Just upgraded Mason Jar a final time, can now afford 210 Multitool in 5 days when atom discount is back
May I ask a question?
5 Millions pero slot ??!! WoW just wow
sure
Why haven't you quit right now
What the hell are you doing with 8mil print per hour
more prints -> more atoms
yikes
bruh wrong person lol
so aggressive
Someone doesn't like atoms
Chill out man
my atom upgrades arent even close to done lol
Nor will they ever be
What should i Focus right now?
I'm just gonna say alchemy without even looking
Focus on anything your whole account is pretty trash
mason jar stamp is your friend 
watch him justify it
More than one person has already gotten in trouble for that advice
Made him a mage
was unware, apologies
muted, dunno if that means they can come back
i don't want the mute papa, pls. i didn't know
i mainly play this for group discussion, idk what i'd do without it lmao
Linking chars to gods is useless after getting Doot? I feel like i already have all the bonuses even if i don't have em linked.
What was the 4 pet team for beating 100?
u need to do 1 to purrmep to get the appropriate bonuses still
btw deleting your messages doesn't do much, they have a log if they wanted to check it. (i've reported several people for certain things and they check it before they do anything)
looter, refiller, peappeapod, borger
it's 130, not 100 btw
Does it matter which one or i can just throw anybody in?
and dont forget it is 130 rn
whoever you like
Thank you
sacrifice whomever you like to the tiger kitty god
Welp 
misinput!!

it was my cat i swear
I'm already sacrificing my soul, money and freedom to my own cat, now i have to do it ig as well...
hilarious
lol i'm pretty lax when it comes to a lot of things, but the one thing i don't let fly is blatant racism, even for the sake of being funny. last report i did was for a guy who posted a gif that spelled out the n word. i don't want anyone to think this place is a nice place to be racist 
alright brother, we get it, you're a good person. you can stop virtue signalling now.
it was one thing, how is that virtue signalling. i'm not in here preaching the gospel
472 hampters...i can practically taste the freedom
Stamps getting so tough now :c
you're at 2x my lvl ๐ฎ
ye i took a break to get some discounts saved up for glass shard spending sprees
certain stamps exceed my carry cap right now even with 90+95% off
I can only afford the shards with full 90+95 right now
Just got my Mason Jar to 128 today
God damn getting box statues was a nightmare
I'm getting really unlucky trying to roll Mega Crit,
Oceanman was a breeze compared to that
The w3 statues are all way, way, way slower
mine is only 100, so i'm 7 upgrades behind you on that
every w3 statue is a week long adventure at least
My last 2 upgrades needed 3 days of non-stop ES farming ๐ฉ
similar to accuracy statue
guys and others) what obols set you build for bubo, bers and sb?
bers active xd
yeah i dont think i would have active bers)
So he's just cooking? Let him sit on the fishing obols ๐คท
you can park str stat obols on him if any expedition challenge comes up for str
4 man pet team managed to 153/130 wave 
I use DR on them both, just swap out Sparkle for Kruk if they're afk
i heard the bubo has nice coins farm it make sence to give him money obols?
whats best for 5pet team? my highest is only 70
No. They farm money via Drop Rate
drop rate multi is on the odd drop rate numbers. so if you cant reach the next tier, can fill with money% cards/gear or all stats/whatever else you want
is this mostly coming from lowest character or beginner?
on other classes its like ~23
if its ur lowest char, from that
is this irrelevant?
Pretty much. It'll add like maybe 0.25
i know farm pop obols already build them for all char and for es, i think now i farm for dk, sb and bubo also, i think on bers i build fishing or maybe pop obols and other bigger slots for fishing
Mine are in a janky order because of samples, but I run with 3x DR, then 1 each of Mining, Choppin, Fishing, Catching, Construction, Worship, and Trapping
we need obol presets
i think i would made the star obols of the main skill
to swap
Have fun. They're expensive as shit to make good
oh i know
but i would made them like side goal
idleon the game of 1 billion side goals
i now upgrade stamps and alchemy vials/buble
greenstack pickles
Especially sparkles, I don't have room for more spares.. Still holding on to hope that skill sparkles will be superior to Kruk again at some point in the future
what happened to all the doot hate, I just noticed that the steam rating is no longer in the negative
doot haters moved on or adapted
adapted how?
We're tired of hearing about it.. Quit if you want to quit, or shut up.
they rolled doot
I mean, I still get mad, and $400-$500 for doot is too much
Everyone already knows.
free rolls every week gonna take years to get doot, and I've spent heaps on this game already
i dont die if i dont have doot, but i would be happy as hell))
we had that discussion for past few months nonstop, we are all tired of it
I'm kinda sad that the protest has died out, I really thought lava would relent
In what world would he relent to a vocal minority lol
i not very lucky f2p player i want slug and donat pet so much
i want a frog before i cant roll 1 no more
Are the doot haters "a vocal minority"? I would be surprised if the general population wanted that level of extreme pay 2 win gatcha...
I would have thought it would be the majority of players
And on to the block list 
Well the game average player count was basically unchanged after doot. it took a small hit but not much
So it seems like most players were fine
The discord lost a lot but most players also arent active in discord anyway
So once again vocal minority
I'll never pay for companions. Either i get doot for free, or i don't.
I mean, I kept playing... but I thought it went against lava's earlier statements about premium items
i want something higher than sheepy or finally get sand pot, his chance to drop with every new tier lower and lower
just have auto loot, no doot or slug...personally dont care if its in game as i eventually have a chance to get one...the only thing id want changed that doesnt take away from doot is unlimited linking each week. Doot is a convenience and gain to account. Not having doot should still have lack of convenience in just being able to forget deities akin to sheepie, but shouldn't mean you are limited each week imo
That's a cool workaround!
its just such a crazy amount of money for such a crazy amount of juice. It just needs a much lower pity system so that it doesn't cost $400-$500 (even $100 would be kinda extreme for a single shop item) or make in-game ways of earning the premium currency, so we can min-max work towards it
lava already has so much of my money from the other bundles, it's crazy that doot costs $400-$500
Just get better and you wont need the juice 
what are you talking about, these equinox challenges are crazy
saying it's a skill issue is bannanas
what challenge are u on?
I cant think of one unreasonable equinox challenge lol
he's on w1 dungeon 
Only annoying one really is pickle because its just a hard time gate
the 5 im on are: 2000 killroy, 100,000 ladles, 500 on all chars, 1b sample, bobjoepickle lvl 2
Several are rather time gated or annoying, but like oh well? You don't have to complete every new piece of content the millisecond it drops.
#19 22 23 25 and 27
None of those are that crazy for a decent account. Its meant to be endgame content
True
has 2k killroy been done already?
I've gotten over 2k multiple times it requires a good map
Havent done it since equinox though as we havent gotten a good map yet. Came close with DK snelbies though I got lik 1850 or something
We JUST got increased respawn in Killroy to help with it, but it'll take time to ramp up for anyone that isn't already at like +100 seconds.
I got close a few times but I'm also bad so I'm sure most end game players can do it
It basically doesn't matter that much though. Even without completing all the dreams, filling the bar enough times to buy EVERY possible upgrade is less than 4 months
So any dream that only speeds up the fill rate as a reward.. ๐คท Lessens the amount of time down to 2-3 months instead
they also block your ability to complete later dreams, as you've only got 5 active slots
so clearing them means you can progress to the more productive ones
like, not getting stuck for 100 days on pickle
The point is you have 2-4 months to complete them before they "block" you
If you have upgrades to spend your bar on, you aren't blocked.
Idk man if you play for 100 more days without getting a 1b sample or all Characters to 500 that's kinda on you
All characters to 500 is a bitch, until W6 drops at least
1b isnt even that hard anymore if you actually know what you're doing
A bitch yes but doable by January? Yes
Endgame started hitting 1b even before companions came out lol. 2.5b is the new crazy sample goals
Does anyone know what the current bonus scales off of for the Decibop Box?
Mabe doable, but not worthwhile lol
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1157094107085283428 (or more specifically: #1157094107085283428 message)
More worth while than 100 pickles is my point
We're all dootless here, right?
I'm dootless and I feel like I'm doing just fine
Kinda your own fault if you didn't buy pickles
You're here on Discord, you know Lava is a memelord
You've seen pickles be used for stupid shit like Omar's quests
Currently looking at a 2.1b oak sample on my next resample even without doot ๐คทโโ๏ธ
You KNOW the vial exists
just be thankful it aint 100 of these
I dont disagree with you I was responding to his point about being blocked my pickles
You know that that's unreasonable. The only reason pickles equinox got added was cause it was submitted as a joke by griffybrit's chat
Bro it takes 5 seconds to buy a pickle
there's no way we could have known in advance that dailiy collecting 100 of them was a worthwhile endeavor, not when we had very limited storage slots earlier
And yet most of us finished that dream without a second thought
Storage slots arent limited lol
VERY LIMITED STORAGE SLOTS
They're not anymore, not if you buy all the upgrades
my sides they are falling over
but earlier in idleon we had way too many items nad not enough storage... especially if you don't have the premium slots
Well lava hasnt added more gem shop storage chests since before W5
Sounds like any reason to bitch with you
100 days ago was not early idleon tho
And W5 has been out nearly a year
Play the game or don't
So storage has been available for at least a year
@distant bronze all you've done since coming in here this morning is complain. are you sure you like this game? maybe you should quit.
I'm pretty sure that was just a buff to storage slots wasnt it?
He just gave everyone more slots
Yea he gave everyone some slots like twice or some shit
After W5, he added the Cheesy Chest drop, he added storage for everyone, then he also added more storage slots on the beginner pack
no idea when he added the purple ones then ๐ Must have been w4 and I was too poor to notice
Yeah, I just needed to get it off my chest. I saw the protest since doot first came out and didn't say anything, thinking that lava would relent. I'm just really sad to see the protest died off and lava didn't compromise in some way. I just think it's a really toxic way for the game to go... when the rest of it is so good
Lava had no reason to relent
He did compromise with the 200 pity
I guess I was in a grumpy mood, didn't wanna take it out on you guys
He made a small fortune and his player base barely took a dent
idleon was in the top sellers list when companions came out, he raked it in
200 pity is no real compromise. 200 real world weeks is literal years
and the server indicators are busier than ever
It is better (for players, worse for him) than it was before, ergo a compromise..
Then wait years. I'm waiting and I dont feel like my account is suffering for it
Most of the server says I'm deep into end game too so its not like I'm falling behind either
My account is suffering from being lazy and using bear 
Man it's fucking nuts to hear people complaining so much about it
Like if your local coffee shop suddenly starts carrying Oat Milk but it costs $4
Are you going to throw a fucking tantrum or move on and continue not getting that new thing
that didn't exist before
It's not like a cafe offering a new menu item, that's a disingenuous comparison
Years is also for the guarantee, lots of people will get lucky before hitting the pity
The introduction of a NEW THING you didn't have in the past doesn't hurt you in the slightest
does CC factor in multi kill? Iโm thinking thatโs why iโm getting 140k seconds at tremor worm while other people are getting lots more.
Why isnt my +100 to max talent working from rift?
Because its 100 levels to the library building
It is 100 ranks of the library building in construction, not max talents.
A lot of people thought the same thing lol
how are people getting CC 200k plus? I feel like the game only allows me to spam the revive button so often.
longer duration, better crystal chance
I see!
PO Mana + Alchemy boxes, max levels in Cranium Cooking, Tentacle Eye, Aura, increased crystal chance, and the Roadkill Cooking alchemy big bubble
Trust me people make this mistake constantly. You're not even the first person in this channel today
So besides just grinding worms in the best XP gear you can throw on.... is there any "tricks" to getting folks up to level 500? I feel like my two BB's are going to take Foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr to level
make it ur lowest lvl char
Think your mistake was having 2 BBs lol
stock up on holy pearls, class swap to dk
Majorly level up Grind Time beforehand, grab Holy Pearls from Killroy + any quests, cry
Grind time really is the biggest factor to make it doable soon
Oh, and use Active EXP things since it scales way better than plain +exp from monsters stuff (Moonmoon, Flies, event ghost, star sign)
I've started my grind lol
I'm working on my bubo to 500 first, he went from 459 to 482 yesterday alone
Yeah if your Bubo isn't over 500 already, don't put that dream on your priority list. It will take months.
does exp multipliers apply to holy pearls?
Holy Pearls give 10% max exp per, if you are over level.. 150? 200?
They give more at lower levels
It's not a priority but I figure if I'm getting XP up I might as well also work on this
Correct
You probably want 15 - 20k GT before you consider 500 all
Maybe even higher
to the moooon
Crawlers are the last thing I need for the Eclipse World Tour so I'm trying to figure out what to do after I finish that up
someone quoted 9 hours per level on BM from 490-500, at 30k GT
I am trying to get all eclipse skulls first i have like 15 left
honestly at 8k already did half my dudes but BB and BM will be a pain
is BM worse than Vman?
Yes
doesnt BM have wolf at least
gotta save on those pearl than
yeah, vman goes all-in with the crystal mobs
Vman has higher crystal chance to compensate
wolf is still awful, but bb is just worst
wonder what max respawn is and if that helps a bit
Maybe I'll just throw them on worms and let them AFK to 500 ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
Not even close to worthwhile lol
there was a guy who claimed he candied all his chars to 500 the other day 
Gaming exp goes hard and this nugget update got me doing a lot of it 
Fishing barely scratches into the single-digit billions of exp/hr
Whereas every time I see exp tick by on my Bubo, it is ~200B
I put on Beefy worship skill and the worms are killing me do i need to put a bunch of points into FMJ?
was the funniest cheater we've ever seen. Completely didn't understand why we knew he was full of shit
Just take off beefy. It barely does anything anyway
or.. take off the prayer 
Alvin 

guys "friend" had purple bits
415K nugget 
600 lvl bb and a crystal capybara companion
In this case it actually was a friend though. Dude linked his own IE and it checked out
Unrelated but semi-endgame tied, is cooking past 50 still just a joke? I recently pearl'd everyone up to level 50 but it feels like progress is slow and.... pointless beyond that point
my BB is lvl 51 cooking lol
~9k balloons per character from 50 - 75 cooking
Why cheat at a game thats not competitive...just pointless
if they cheat, just dont flaunt it off as real
Actually quite the opposite for me, it's the only type of game I think cheating is fine in
Just don't involve any other people with your bs
noone would know if they kept it to themselves
but thats against cheating mentality, they mentally need to flaunt it
Cheating is for fking peasant
I'm not saying it's fine in competive games, I just mean the one you're fighting against is yourself in single player games.
the W2 skull boss hat is cool
whats the fastest way to get the lad on vman?
dreadlo mining
does efficiency play a role there? I currently got 2x
No. Skill speed up to 62/min, then AFK and drop rate
thx
Efficiency over 100% mining chance doesn't matter for rare drops
having 100% helps though
yeah, it's kinda like accuracy for mining. If you only hit 50% of the time, you get 50% of the drops
But double mining is like multikill. You hit the same number of times - but don't get more rare drops
I just claimed my bar 
my bubo is soon going to be 500 (haven't been playing him lately) and then the next will be my DK who is 480. then it all just gets slower from there. absolutely dreading doing it on my SBs and BM lmao
I'm just gonna not worry about it
FREAKIN' FINALLY.
I can hit all the equinox fill rate challenges without clearing it
so that's all that really matters
all this nugg farming feels kinda lame when you only have 10 snail. sure I get gains, but not much ๐
Out of curiosity is there an "endgame checklist" of things to knock off while we wait? 10b gmush kills, eclipse world tour, divine scarf for everyone, etc etc?
add a 0 to those mush kills ๐
I wad already working on 5k family anyway, but yeah BB and BM to 500 is not happening until w6
I think 10b is the minimum for the dream task but people can go as nuts as they want ๐
10b gmush is achieveabnle for midgamers
The task "requires" 100b but it seems to be bugged and just work
ooohhh
prob missing some 0's in the code
Cool cool, well then I guess i'll move some of my 500+ people over to gmush
500 people and less than 10b gmush? ๐
was able to get this with level 1 and 2 slow roast. gonna try again once i get level 5 ๐
you're in for some very sudden money gains lol
Its coded as E9 instead of E11
So 1B kills is enough
ha
I was wrong too but still pretty funny
finally some payment for the magma pants
1.4b Gmush kills, only 500+ is my DK, but Bubo and then 2nd DK will be a fast follow ๐คทโโ๏ธ
I have 60b gmush and don't have a character to 500 yet haha
I didn't see the big need for money so I haven't pushed it
I have 300b gmush and a 559 bubo 
stamps 
Stamps 
yeah, money for stamps mostly
99% of my time in the last few months was beans which unfortunately doesn't give great exp
For statues?
yeah - put statues on your list too
I got 2b gmush kills but mainly because idk what else to do w my SBs & BM lol. No need to lab cause doot
yeah that's one thing doot does quite well, freeing up units to gmush endlessly
I've taken care of full onyx, still working on the 100k for everyone, but currently at 3448 statue level, maybe I'll push that up a bit once I finish up a few other tasks
i'm about to join that list
i have had my two es doing gmush the last few days since i was embarrassed i only had 1.5b lmaoooo it's only at 6b now and my bubo is going to be 500 soon
the 100k for everyone is gooooood
I'm letting my dudes do that passively with AFK gains, I'd rather active on Bubo than farm status on bad characters ๐
yeah, most just stick the afk guys on dreadlo
quickest way to pump them out without active
Today is the day I stop being so lazy and get back to the colo grind
Currently chowing my way through everyone, only w4 left (yes I chowโd w5 first lol)
Oh yeah, I gotta chow my other BB at some point in case that ever gets fixed
I'll do that after 100k ladels.....
Or just class change into DK heh
3 DK's? nahhhhh
Thereโs no way to reroll an equinox challenge right
You dont have to worry about it getting fixed
Oh my b I thought you had 2 BBโs
Mman left and right hand have worked the same way as super chow since he was released
It takes the second ones levels if you have 2
2 DK, 2 BB, 2 ES
Oh shit you got 4 warriors lol
Its never been fixed either so I dont see any reason the BB would
just gonna wait for elite classes to come out and swap the BB to the other one that gets added
2 Seige breakers doesn't seem that much better ๐คทโโ๏ธ
at least I can get double ladels
I feel that. Iโm just the type of person who likes to go the meta route lol
Less brainpower
The only advantage for 2 SB is that it future proofs your account in case we get a new archer elite before we get a way to change characters or more character slots
As far as actual benefits to game play right now having 4 warriors is just better than a 2nd SB
currently 4 warriors is the strongest setup 'cause of printing ores for bubbles
You do risk not having a 3rd archer when the world 6 classes get added, though
lol, pretty much the same thing contract said
Do new char slots get added w each world? By the time I started playing w5 was out already
we didn't get any after 5
didnt get one this world
Tru
Probably wonโt get ones next world
technically, we don't need any for 6 either - as the last 3 slots can be rerolled to the new 3 classes. Lava might be kind and throw us one though
Pls lava, Iโd love a new char to do random shit with
Pls lava, i need to greenstack quest items
I'm looking forward to "why can't I print on char 11"
no way he doesn't expand the unlock right
pls lava I need oil
Didnโt even think about that lol
I was here when slot 10 came out, it happened a lot lol
the building in construction gets an extra level
Any tips for wave 121 W5 TD? @urban pond @stuck elbow
Ahhh true that
Surprisingly that one is easy to max compared to the rest lol, looking back, interesting he didnโt make it harder
Aren't we eventually going to need 13 characters though? 4 war, 4 archer, 4 wiz, and Vman?
eventually yeah, that's the min requirements
Stack those elite class swaps
Or wait, what if the new class stems from Barb vs squire stage, then weโre essentially fucked?
cool, i'll probably make that extra archer whenever the 11th char drops, currently they are my least favorite class to active on anyways so no rush
Those who have done the recommended setups won'thit any issues til world 7, those with the abnormal ones (4 war, 3 mage, 2 bowman) will potentially have a headache. I think it'll cause lava to add another slot
Elite swap currently changes you from a blod bers to a DK, includinog swapping tab 3
He'll have to adjust it to a class picker, but it should be fine
Ah ok whew lol
What's a good kill/hour for starting 1B deathnote kills on mobs? I'm sporting most characters at 4M/hour on W2.
I started mine at 6m gmush
then didn't check the rest - just candied w1-4 in one sitting
I manually did my full eclipse tour..... it's taken me about a month and some change
but you can defo candy w1/w2 to make it faster, those eclipse skulls add A LOT of damage
i did mostly the same. i'm now on w5 though
I pushed through W1 in a pretty timely fashion, but my 5.7m gmush has now downgraded to 2m in some bad respawn mobs in W2. Painful...
I had enough leftover to do 25b gmush so it was all good
I hoard candy so I should use it sooner
Sitting on 4k hours rn and still need to eclipse w4
Run it w all 10 chars lol
9m more to greenstack w5 crystal cards!!111!!!!111
sooooon
Whenever w5 can be candied I'll probably finally push a bunch of my skills up to 1k..... Catching is such a pain =/
Never realized that was a capybara, thought it was supposed to be a mole
it is a mole

lava just names all the crystal mobs with alliteration
world 6 crystal will be "crystal c" like the rest
This is what I did, I basically put my entire team on one map, murdered it, move on to the next
Haha yes, so far I'm doing all 9 (avoiding vman reset). But at 3m/hour or 27m/hour account wide, each mob is 1.5 days. Maybe that is a good speed? Idk.
Itโs kinda fun doing that. I did that for the vman quest too lol
Idk either Iโm at like 550k an hour at gmush so youโre way ahead of me lol
that's not too bad, though I feel like that number is a bit low, maybe eclipse stacking is getting out of hand at this point for me /shrug. If you have other things that you can be working on that will better benefit your account, it might be good to go back to that, then circle back to eclipse down the road. Gear stuff, cards, book levels, etc all play a huge factor
Jk at 800k an hour but still not that great
I will say, this new water distirbution from equinox is so nice. Go to a work meeting, come back, fill some cauldrons, rinse/repeat
That's fair. But just to triple confirm, the 3M is W2 mobs. Gmush is around 5.7M. That still on the lower end?
probably
i am pro
do you have the gmush lab node unlocked
Alchemy has finally been converted to linear-only bubbles from now on, so I'm looking for a meatier task now.
oh jfc that's your per hour
umm almost all of us here @red totem
i saw a guide claiming it would take yeats
doot?
No matter how pro you are thereโs always someone more pro lol
Not with rift construction that halves your salt gains
construction has had a lot of buffs to speed in the last year
that was literally when w3 came out that it said that
Yeah, I think you're probably good to go nuts. I just double checked on my Bubo who is in XP gear and cards etc, sitting at rouhgly 8.8m/h Gmush but that's after a full eclipse stack (-1). You're probably good to start
but i cant get past first
Funny, i nearly laughed.
Why should I get another siegebreaker
Ok. Thanks for the relative comparison. Here I go.
largely for bar production
What is first rift objective
Only reason is because another BM does nothing. and you want 3 of each class just incase depending how future classes are added, to not lock yourself out of a class.
300 in 5 mins
Use ES and go ham, should be easy
Ok I see now
The Rift is, more or less, a giant DPS check. Get more damage / book your talents
Ok nice, I thought for sailing
SB damage also scales much higher than BM, which is better for deathnote farming
If you have 40m and cant do rift 1, thats a you thing btw
You'll need over 100B to finish rift to current max
another 100 levels down, shrines goin brrrrrr
increase damage
ours are pretty damn similar lol
plundered mobs not counting for lava skulls in rift is crazy
Remember to focus on 3rd shrine and 7th shrine
3rd = levels other shrines faster,
7th = crystal rate.
Main important ones.
how many hours should I afk vman at dreadlo (100% eff 62/min) in order to have the best odds for the lucky lad trophy?
yep, 3rd shrine had to take a break atm because i ran out of gold bars and my sb is cookin up some more
finally got eldritch fury!
yay another vial done 
Drop rate and afk matters too
Iโve got that as high as i can with my current stuff (which isnโt much compared to most of you guys it seems)
Show cards ๐
When the hell did construction get a mastery?
But it is rng so who knows. I got on a single 24hr candy some peeps go 100s of hours deep
Rift unlock
Whatโs your DR?
there was a mini rift update that added 41/46 to rift
iirc vials were the limit at first?
Ex-fucking-scuse me?!????
Not sure what I had when doing that, probably 13-14ish
ty!
1.5 more BB levels then I have enough pearls to take me to 500 
Shouldn't you save those pearls for your garbo classes? ๐งป
BB is a garbo class
Blood beserker is lol
And I only have him and vman left
Ohhhh no, I read that as Bubo
He's the worst in xp o.o
MY bad
True, if you say BB like B B very quickly it is indead a Bebe or a bubo ig
Vman should be relatively quick
does any1 have a route for w2 weekly boss already?
Finally the elusive eldritch mask is mine
one more to go and i dont have to worry about sailing forever
But but but red boats
i can set it to get frog chests and check in whenever i want
until the 4th artifacts and new islands lol
I gave up on getting eldritch Giant's Eye.... it's the only one I have left and I just CBA
I dont want another tier of artis, but some kind of reason to do sailing would be nice though
whgat are people's combustion cycle times
ok roughly the same
Dont speak that evil onto me T_T
Whats you unlock the con rift stuff, i feel like everyone ends up pretty similar pretty quickly. And getting it a bunch lower gets harder and harder unless your name is buddha ๐
https://i.imgur.com/tJwzq36.png
what level stamp?
70
How and where do i see that?
Youtube probably has a decent vid by now
IE, W3, con
Weird~ish question, have folks had issues with the Chip Shop where on refresh one of the chips is sold out already?
it can happen yeah
never personally but seen it
it used to happen much more, before w5 came out
Any fix for it?
nope
Is kattlecruk gear really better than magma?
I got a 17x DR on my vman and got 0 lucly lads since update. Checked lootfilter 10 times and even put lad into filter and took it immediately back out
Man I hope that doesn't happen on a "good" week
i think it is ridiculous that it feels like it was faster for me to get all these superchows than the time to go from level 50 to 52 in cooking lmao
boots are good too
Magma better for sample.
Kattle top+legs with Magma head+feet better for the afk gain.
Kattle head+feet with Magma top+legs better for active DR/dmg
Essentially you would mix and match depending on what you are doing (afk kills vs active DR type of stuff)
Yeah ill make boots then
Or you can just be lazy and throw Kattle on everyone
Ill just use kattle head shoes on everyone
or be lazy like me and have kattle and magma on everyone..
With magma legs chest
why?
Actually
Like, the afk gain on chest/legs would be way better on alts doing gmush and stuff
I feel like Iโm missing something with CC.
I did one CC run for 130k seconds and my first liquid went from 1.71k to 2.34k. Is that about what itโs supposed to be? I feel like that delta (630 liquid) is really low compared to what some people have seen.
what are your water rates
they are likely low
I think they are low. Itโs like 18/hr
Is there any way to get that up besides decanting that Iโm missing?
Stamp neglect is very likely.
decanting is very good tho
balloons the only way for cooping exp past 50 i swear
my salt lick is 70/100
max that when you can
Seems like my trapping is lacking then.
i know but i don't wanna 
if you have vman, get on to boosting his worship and trapping level for the critters/souls talent
what rate is good / I should shoot for?
Decant is good though? Iโll keep on top of that then
Always get that regen speed, and check the above link i posted
Vial helps a lot, guess cap is now useless with the equinox unlock
Not fully useless
Since you'd still rather toss 100% into regen and not 50/50
i still want draconic cauldrons for helping me when i forget to do gt
Yeah, my stamp is 75 for liquid regen. I could stand to push that up more
whats ur rate at boys?
Random note, remember for vman, always maximize xp. For his traps, for worship. transfuision etc.
Cap is also good for Grind Time pushing
with lab node
nice
gettin there
quite a bit ahead of me then, hehe
equinox will help that a lot
i've had a bit more playtime lol
@sacred verge why is your Cauldron #1 so high compared to the others? I feel like that's lagging behind the most for me
all that wasted water
damn, and thatโs mostly decant?
everyone out of lab rn because i am trying to level skillingf or all characters for skill mastery
i got two guys in liquid 1 (to boost it extra) other have no ppl
this which i've put off, maxed salt lick, working on tier2 of the sigil, lots of max vials boosting the vial, and prem liquid cauldrons
i dont even have tier 1 of the sigil
yeah its 3rd to last
took ~1.2k green balloons to go from 52 to 60 lol
yeah 5 more sigils till i got it, soo long
i got 1k spair PO boxes on my characters and idk where to put on is there any specific one i should max
Hrmmmm, my 1st cauldron seems low
I see. Iโve got the sigil unlocked (not tier 2), my stamps are behind yours by like 35 and iโve got 30 more levels in salt lick to go. Only 22 vials maxed, but iโm working on that. got prem liquid cauldrons too and doot (so labs are activated). Still at 18/hr
shinyyyyy
1k sparw suggests you've already invested some, but we don't know what. More context?
takes time, you'll get there 
damn... i wish
Sounds like besides stamps and salt lick, itโs vials and diligent decanting?
Which class would be best for 3rd dungeon boss solo? I'm thinking either dk or es, but not sure
dk yeah
maybe if im lucky i can get the sigil early next year -.- something like that
I did DK for sure
Welp, time to grind for it, then. Thanks!
125 days to finish up Gold Peculiar Vial ๐ซ
whats the best PO order thing to spend 100 pens on?
I am starting to get a ton of these, and need to start spending
If you get a ton, max all. The all stat green box last (over 800 then itโs getting to 100.000)
Hey guys! Are there any recommendations for which class should upgrade to divine gear and which should stay on magma?
Unless you need damage, kruk is overall better
Ohh okay. But I guess magma is better for skilling right?
Only chopping/mining (excluding boots)
Standard skilling gear is better for fish/catch
well you still use boots for mana and health snapshotting
I see. I just equipped all my chars with full magma and try to decide if they should be upgraded^^
You should upgrade 100% imo. The respawn/dr is more important
I made 10x full divine cause people we being very angry about it
Need to make another magma set for my skilling lol
While googling I came across this graphic, but wanted to get some more opinions on this topic.
https://imgur.com/3hsWGgE
at least i can say the vial is speeding things up nicely. before the vial it was like 90+ days until it was finished
So thanks for your inputs everyone ๐
Disagree with this graphic completely
Everyone at min (for afk) should use the 2 respawn pieces
Respawn is so damn strong
No idea the logic behind a bubo ignoring it lol
Side note, why call it molten and not magma?
Yeah, that's my struggle. Each character has 1 set. At this point I'm not makeing to sets for each one. So I'm trying to get the best combination for active (only dk, es and bubo) AND afk
According to the comments, bubo is ignored because bubo needs stats. stats are money. that's their explanation
You'll get more salt than you can spend at some point and setup something like:
https://i.imgur.com/dsBUDih.png
off topic, but have you had a chance to try out dk money farm yet?
I think the other argument for some witholding to upgrading that I've seen is we're not certain what the next armor is going to upgrade from and w6 is predicted to be soonish
Wouldnt it be a standalone set or continue off a higher smithing one
Like Diabolical into W6 boss or just a new standalone start like the troll start
I did, but then realized I forgot a few things when doing the comparison on dk. So need to redo it
At this point, that's fairish, still don't agree. People have been saying that since krul came out though, which was foolish.
I bet w6 is still a month or 2 away, which is a pretty big loss to hold off
that's fair
Took me months to get everything together. Next thing I wanted to do with my nullo salts is traps and skulls for everyone^^
just something to think about if you're looking at swapping full account armors since that's a lot of void salt
Yeah I just got the max skull / traps for everyone was nice lol
It starts to domino more and more, especially once your lab alts dont need divinity anymore and can move on omni for example
i leveled "shared beliefs" on both of my ES and it seems only my wizard classes (2 ES + Bubo) get the bonus!? is this a bug or intended? it says all characters ...
and w5 changed the armor progression for the first time and reasonably uncertain if that trend will continue
Currently everyone is farming kattle keys with omni^^
What's omni?
elephant god
Div god
Ah, gotcha. Thanks
take into account mages get bonus exp from the specialized skill exp talent too so your other chars will have a bit less exp gain anyway. when you tested did you try checking the other chars exp multi before speccing into shared beliefs and then again after?
Ok, so in summary: I won't do anything wrong upgrading everyone fully to divine gear instead on keeping them on magma, right?
Especially since I'm active playing only during the day and currently my DK for keys. Maybe es soon for cards, based on how lucky i get with kattle drops^^
no i would have to respec one es to test it. do the skills count if i switch the skill set?
you would need to swap presets on both es so that it doesnt take from the other too, but yeah you could do that
but maybe its the specialized skill exp talent
The only thing would be slightly lower samples for not having sample. Or active ES dmg for wormhole push from what i can think off right now
I just redid all my samples a few days ago. I don't think I will do a resample in the next weeks, so I may be able to make two more sets for sampling until then. Atleast that's my plan now ^^
Im gonna make this character get to at least world 4 without a weapon thats gonna be super fun, and totally not gonna take much time hahaha 
Weapons don't really do as much as people think (but you do you ig)*
Especially if active on a class with insta rezz
Is the equinox cauldron upgrade for the Alchemy cauldrons?
Liquid cauldrons
So once equinox full, it will then start to improve the liquid per hour of all the liquid?
Trying to work out what it actually does ๐
It just let's overflow go 50/50 into Cap/Regen
Oh right I get it. To aid the leveling up.
Let's say your water capacity is 1500
You Bubo, it is now full, but you gain another 1000 Water. You used to lose that water.
With Equinox maxed (99%) you would gain that 990 Water as a 50/50 between Cap and Regen.
You still need to click the Decant on them to lvl it
do you lose the water if you dont decant?
No, it just starts building up, so if you hit decant with a lot of water you could get more than 1 level at a time kinda thing on those
neat
so if i were to cc with this being full, it would keep filling cap and rate. this morning my cap (bottom left) was at 160k/~16k
unlucky didnt turn lab off overnight
not like it isn't insanely easy to make w5 armor sets at this point
i did
no worries there
just an example
sailing speed gains slowing down a bunch around 2 mil speed, what do i do
or are you saying you didnt
i was talking about myself 
that's the stuff 
Just keep grinding loot. They'll pick back up once your ships' capacity goes up.
bet, ty
Dido - "Thank you" plays in the background
Tbf green salt limits a lot of people still
lmao this is a good gif im stealing it
2 pages filled of ulti double cogs now, one more to go until i can get the dream finished
why'd you have to do it 
Anyone have the 85% alchemy checklist spreadsheet handy? Not finding it with search easily
๐คฆโโ๏ธ not sure why it didn't crop up in search, thanks
What's a good team comp for w5 spices?
rattler, mono, looter, refiller, shield, refiller
mono is best
gotta time the first blocks right then its pretty much full auto from there
and hope u dont get screwed by looter
SO i got a minor issue and im not sure if its fixable.
Two of my characters dont have the Arm Automation to automatically deposit completed production materials when full. Is there a way to fix that ?
Its not when its full, its once daily on reset (or if not online, next time you login)
my best advice is to ignore the upgrade
its something like they need to have their anvil rdy to claim at daily reset otherwise it wont claim it.
so i need to up some capacities, got it.
Thanks team!
is sacrilegious kattlecruk doable in less than a minute or is it supposed to be a long fight?
just to know if it's worth pushing more damages
umm it's doable when you do it 
for some it can take a long time if your damage is not high enough, others one shot the boss because they've invested time in their account
it's how all the bosses are honestly, eventually you one shot them without thinking
Is he sacrilegeous?
sacrilegious yes
XD
So how to Effectively farm this ?
who drops cardiovascular!
got cape before the obol i noticed. i'll take it 
wiki should say but i think its doot and maybe biggie hours
best to check
cant find on wiki:P
excuse me, sir/madam, but do we need to help you click buttons too? 
with divine knight
I mean should I let it cook or just do it instantly
prob needed to scroll down more
you do it instantly if you want to get things for the mutation
found it:D
to unlock new plants
early gaming is literally just clicking upgrades without much more though
same as late gaming honestly 
Harvest All, Every time baybeeeeeeeeee
What bubbles are suggested to be set-up to be procc'd by NBLB?
Any bubble that uses spices or salts.
I think there's a bug with build rate on pc vs ios. On IOS i have twice the build rate than when I log into pc
you probably have talents set up differently on the two different platforms honestly
that is why the only thing i use mobile for is logins while i'm away.
i get that. i'm trying to max out equinox upgrades and check while away, but it seems to be so wonky between the two
is DK best for rare mob drops like nugget cake?
ES
yes
Portal mobs drop everything except crystal spawns and kill count.
For the offerings if you reroll the low gift it also rerolls the high right?
yep
Low chance gambler, always 
What is the best fishing hook and line for equanox fish
goldfish type
dont forget to click sample multiple times since it rolls all depths
It what? ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
yeah it gives amounts based on each depth
raise your hand if your SB has been on skilling preset for the last few days and you're just now realizing?
๐ฅฒ๐ค
so just spam for your highest
welp... to late now, samples was almost a week ago. We've come to far
Idleon is a great bowl of spaghetti and meatballs
that feeling of ruining multiple peoples past week with one sentence
we eat GOOD here
I already finished the vial.... I'll just forget the past 3 minutes
ur good then lol
Check sailing in skill info maybe
if you have IE its on the sailing tab
what was your sample? maybe it was best or second best anyway
IE's sailing page knows, or just let it fill
just remember the info when he inevitably makes w6 or w7 gear require equinox fish
1.45m/h
I'd hate that honestly
i think u got lucky haha
I can cap it back out relatively quickly
mine is 1.76 M
we already know seasalt fish will be required for something in w6, so equinox might not be required for a while
Equinox, imo, is basically:Good luck, this is like W5, since you can't use time candies
https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger#6559
so u hit the correct roll
I bet it'll still find it's way there

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