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SB or ES is best for lava skull
yea I got my first one with ES but my SB been there for an hr and hasnt completed it lol
Finally unlocked eldritch 😵💫
my dk and es aren't TOTAL shit but i'm just not keepin up with the respawns
es got done in 10min
just for you
No real strat, just have the damage. Use probably bubo, ES w/o portal, or DK
Oh. I did es, but my friend did vman cause his is too weak to wipe everything so it gets there eventually.
yeah i'm curious about how much dmg
Stolen, Ty
maybe its as simple as move speed or somethin
No idea, your next road block is gonna be having 100b-200b damage on ES soon anyways before the next reward rift
this bitch been there for an hr and nothing
speed potions? / star talent boosting speed potions?
so I'm off by 10x damage?
Potentially yes, the ES challenge is the final hurdle of rifts currently
that seems like a very low DR for youre accs damage
You can manually attack the ones with skulls over their heads instead of be on auto. Might help if it’s taking too long.
this is without minmaxing everything, so i could push that a bit higher
yes.
its not a dmg issue
Yeah you need like 8-10x damage
fml
Yeah, time to start pushing damage
matching scims is your friend
scims?
Green stacks, eclipse, alch, stats/sailing
ahhh
i dont even have the nugget one yet
and you're 10~15x lower in damage than me
lol
like i always say, i'm a lazy player
i play this game like it's a dang idle game or somethin
i mean im literally behind on equinox because i cant do the clouds that are there now
just get more clouds ofc
I hope all NON doot havers have an amazing day, god bless you 😁
and if it is night
I hope you all sleep well except for doot havers
About to (slightly) remedy my stamp issue. Which effects to focus first? At What point am I no longer made fun of?
So In order to make the dungeon 2 mission solo to count do I need to leave before I enter the 3rd boss room or just right before it dies
its maxed
same
there will always be someone with higher stamps around to make fun of you
Fine, at what point can I be less anxious about how abysmal they are?
all 5 difficulties weekly battleboss (nope)
vengefull grandfrogger solo (nope)
innevitable snakehop solo (nope)
fill half your board 48 cogs (lazy)
get a lucky lad trophy on maestro (lazy)
so you CAN do your clouds you just dont want to
SAMEEEEEE
Bro praying on my downfall
To kill Chaotic Kruk on Vman, do i need to be actively trying to kill moles or just out DPS them? Void radius every 40s isn't enough AOE.

Venge frog is easy. And lucky lad is afk.
its not easy ive been trying
i mean, all of those are pretty doable yeah, venge frog is even the easiest dungeon none
?
anyone got an optimal weekly battle boss route for the week?
get one horn roll and the thing just kinda plays itself
i'm lazy too but did cogs yesterday, just sit on your construction dude with both in cog, you should be able to fill all your open cog inventory slots in like a minute
just oneshot the boss ofc 😭😭😭
is there a guide for maximizing ladle gain per hour? need 100k of them
no me
it doesnt most times i just dont drop the materials
i wish my vman was that strong
and i have maxed drop rate
Turn around and whip them every few seconds. It takes a minute or twelve.
Skill AFK time + BB + cooking eff
https://i.imgur.com/VASIiBf.png cooking afk boost
Get a few vouchers, those are op.
dk gets "ok" ladle rate too
yeah its not as easy as just "get that rng item"
the one time i could summon the last boss i got 0 drops for items that gave critchance
and just missed
most attacks
Just replay the dungeon
Do you not have like 500 tickets that are just sitting there?
i dont
Do you have coin flip?
still less time then trying to kill biggie on a beginner when you first start off and dont have the defense 😂
hey anyone have any alchemy advice for me? what should I use my daily for? https://rhandul.idleonefficiency.com/
For alchemy hard caps, do the class based multipliers work when other small bubbles are hard capped? Such as hocus choppus hardcap 50%, and mage is best hardcap 3x, will choppus be 50%x3 when both are capped? Or will the x3 take choppus to50% and no need to level it to hardcap?
best team for this?
refiller looter borger peapea
Dk and snakes for best W3 statues?
check pins but for w3 statues use es for active
What's the best way to kill nightmare kattle kruk? Or best damage needed
theres a pin for that with vman but applies to all classes really
How does equinox liquidestment work exactly? As I understand it automatically invests Liquid into upgrades but at lower percentage. So isn't it still better to upgrade cauldrons manually?
at max lvl it does 99%
so manually is still better but allows you to afk for longer time
Also is there max level on cauldron upgrades?
not on liquid cauldrons
Thx
2k soon.
Better hope u get that 4th boss killed lol
@lyric adder sorry, I don't think I can help you with Snake Dungeon today - some stuff has come up
Small dose of idleon meme 
Np I got 2 horns and cheese it
Yes, they still increase beyond the individual bubble's cap.
Why arent mobs despawning in W5 worship totem
is there a guide for the weekly battle boss from w2 thing?
Tips and tricks
Crows perch doesn't seem to count for slab :/
ayoooo
yea i managed to beat it as well, dont even know how got lucky with resets
and now my next cloud is freakin 60 refinery ranks... is that even worth it
i think he made it so resets are actually achievable this time
aka we're extremely skilled
I'm at 58 and I'm only now starting to produce enough nullo salt for the troll tier of gear
what?
This week is a really easy week for the boss
i have troll gear x4 and im 41
actually i have magma gear x4... one for each stat and luk
any hot chips this week
total dmg and skill effic
@paper sail I now know who I can call upon for a good roast
oh weird, i did take a long break before w5 came out so maybe that's why i'm behind
looting the cape from kruk is the only way to complete this right?
Correct.
is this star book worth buying before I unlock all the islands? i have fishie and fractle islands left to unlock
ooh i love the way it trimmed the screenshots to be useless unless you click on them lol
yeah i think i have grandfrogger obol and nothing else
is that what it means by the treasures then?
sounds like it's better after dumping a bunch of extra bottles into the +5% loot for random events upgrade
@potent maple where can you find the green Menue with the option to spend the bottles? legit never seen it before..
any knows if there is a away to recover a droped item for accident? xD i jusp swamped maps for error
I'm pretty sure it is really bad rates, especially since rando events clearly dont drop their items
rando island
fractal or crystal island first?
Crystal
ty
what does he do i dont really understand
Fractl isnt worth it cause early on when the bonuses are ok you dont have the candy for it and there are much better uses for them. And later on you dont need the bonuses anymore
If nothing else, the candy you get from crystal can fuel fractal later
what a crazy island. how do you take advantage of that one? is it a daily spawn of that madness?
It spawn like 2 or 3 crystals daily
Best to use choco chip and boost active exp gain
will they keep spawning if I don't visit?
Yeah i think it may hold like a weeks worth, wiki may know
Where am I supposed to afk for fractal Island? I afked I'm w5 town for 2days and got nothing. Haven't been able to get any of the rewards
If you leave the island without killing them they dissapear tho
doesn't it explicitly say candy for fractal? i haven't unlocked it yet
can you use a candy while on the island?
I thought that was bugged and counted as fishing
i haven't unlocked it yet so i dont know. can YOU use candy?
Only on mobile
u can use candy on fractal island
You can afk/candy on island on steam, or you can afk in town for nothing as well
I just recently stopped playing on mobile, so that may be part of the problem
I will try it today and see
Thanks
so the bobjoepickle vial to level 2 is just a 3 month time gate??
if i candy on a dk does it help progress construction similar to how candying for bars works?
candying for bars happens because SB is getting kills. Not sure it says DK can advance construction through kills
oh yeah i forgor that sb gets it bc talent
is aura 9 achievable
Got my lucky lad on beginner done
Definitely didn't get bored of blowing 1 hour candies and waste a 72 hour on it
Yeah at 280

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Shaman The wiki has this info, for future reference
ty!
Can get there with max book, es family, bear
wow so even 10 might be possible
Slug too
Well that's fortunate
For the lucky lad on beginner one, I go candy at dreadlo yeah?
@paper sail thanks!
1/3 laddle in storage almost there
What prayers do you guys normally run? I thought with the No More Praying superbit it would be the most effective to run no prayers but I've seen a lot of late gamers who are running Midas and stuff. Do you guys run them all the time just when boss farming or sampling?
minor link bonuses are shared to all characters if 1 is linked right? without doot
u run w.e u need for the activity you are doing
zerg and sampler usualy stay on
the cons are minimal compared to the massive buffs
it is
so... it is not possible to get slime anymore? 🤡
any madlads go for T7 plants yet?
prob only endgaymers
my respawn time with rock on is pretty low already, but not sure if i should try to get even lower before attempting
save me a frog and ill save you a slime when trading becomes available
You can trade for it when trading is released in 
there is a little problem... I have only untradeable frogs remaining 
dont we all just love companions

sub 1m, wanna know if it goes into seconds 😄
Mhm, your squirrel must be op op...
https://i.imgur.com/EDCIv4e.png
oh sht we same level lmao
holy
sad..
youre neglecting your squirrel bro
No.. you've just played this game twice as long as i have
Depends, if you first played on steam, your game file dates. if you joined discord on day 1, then discord join date
Definitely not discord but I’ll take a look at steam, thank you!
is toolbox down for anyone else right now?
Nope
hweird
It's working for me.
lag on poing kills me to my very core
was just at 14k when it killed me
ahhh google had signed me out, figured it out
I somehow got my vman to oranges in w5 long before my characters that kill like 3x as many mobs, and I have no idea how.
Vman distance is based on your highest char
Speedrun gives you the progress of your furthrst char to vman
maybe ill finish this tonight (doubt)
Oh, I was unaware of that. I've only actually managed to open like 15 portals, but the skill itself just...does that? Neat.
only thing worse in poing is when the lag makes left or right stick
once I unlock the 'No More Praying' superbit, is there any point in having active pravers anymore?
Prayer downsides can be largely ignored and its much better to get their full bonus
No more praying bad, use prayers!
Never use No More praying.
cool, thanks for the advice
beans giving me too many lads
https://i.imgur.com/xCoTeOy.png
3 more for the trophy
struggling getting the 30s kill on chaotic kruk.. which class did you guys do it on and what was your dmg looking like when you did it?
If you struggle with those tasks, may not really be worth doing it
And rather backtrack and work on your overall account (alchemy/stamps/3d samples etc.)
even if cards become passive is there merit to putting them at the top left and bottom right with the double chip boost anymore? (i.e. like the starting worship points if we dont have enough starting points to get a poisoninc frozone and void at the start of a map)
hm keep failing citric 120
Easiest class imo will be bubo because aura hits so frequently. But, as was said, if you're having a hard time then it's not super critical and maybe you should just hold off for a bit.
Did you spam it or let it spawn on its own?
I was able to pass citric 120 yesterday. 6x AAAA party. 7x BAA Krakens. 3x BAA poisons. Only 1 Stormcaller BBB on that far left platform.
yeah just didn't manage to kill enough to keep it under control
did you make the krakens 20?
6 Krakens failed me, but 7 Krakens kept it under control
n/m you said
Nah just 15
Is your lightning offscreen
Yeah, to the left of the portal
Just in case they needed to know
i was doing 2 poison 9 kraken
SC, Poison, Void, 2x Poison, Freezy, then 7x krakens on the bottom. 6x Parties up top
i can switch back to 4 poison
I think the successful run was my 4th or 5th attempt, just slight tweaks each time. Was super annoying
i'll try your strat next time
Good luck 🫡
awwwww yeah. skilling efficiency chip!!
mb i did it using bubo just now
maybe i was just pressed on using my dk to clear the task 
I am getting 80 Power statues per 20 minutes on my DK on beans, but on ES I am getting 180 per 20 minutes on snakes
Am I doing something wrong?
maybe your cc is low
cc?
im having issues with w3 statues
around 200 portal kills on elemental
and get like 1 per
portal
Crystal Chance, I have 1.67 without choco chip
oh
My shrines seem stuck at 16...I imagine I need to raise them via constuction because they need 150k hours to level.
I took a break before w4 was even introduced and only returned recently so I'm way behind on everything and just kinda bumrushed w5, so now I'm playing catch up in a lot of things.
Is that with card doublifier chip?
yeah i have both cards rubied and doubled
ye
what is the breakdown
just hover it it'll show ya
no star talent
its
po not maxed
oic
let me check with lab and stuff
Huh, what is it that makes DK better at crystal farming? I'd figure ES with its portal can knock out more mobs faster than a DK.
i think the portal mobs don't spawn crystals
onl yhe regular mob kills
nope, that's it.
lame
Oooh, I see, for some reason I didn't realize that. Is it just the drop rate from orb that makes it better? Or is there some hidden Thing to it?
The orb is very impactful, the dr bonus is insane
ES portal only applies bonus DR to the special mobs it spawns. It has no effect on crystal drops.
Interesting, good to know! Right now I'm just using my ES to farm basic ass drops so I can unlock the green stack equinox cloud.
Active ES is the best for any item that drops off the main mob itself (cards included)
from what i read, all the stuff in the rare loot bags are dropped better by dk
yeah
for es the main item
maybe ill 5 star my genie
and it will go to like
1 in 20
hopefully
1 in 30
/doubt
DK for crystal things.
If the item you want is in a rare bag on the main map mob but not on crystal mobs then ES is likely still better.
I can't think of whether there's anything that actually fits that criteria, though...
does drop rate work for card drops too??
and multikill doesnt affect drops either right
dr works for card drop rate, yes
mk doesn't affect drops outside of the normal mob drop
MultiKill
cherries are the main (first) drop so ARE affected my mk
ghosts are a rare drop so not affected by mk (rare as in not the first item)
but frisbees from wood mushrooms
those aren't rare drops, those are main drops because they are listed first. so affected by mk. get it?
i have like 5-6 maps left in w5 to clear all the maps... but my dmg dropped off and it will take like 2-3 days per portal now. do i just keeep slow pushing for the sake of it anyways?
what is your short-term and long-term goal
how did i almost reach late game without knowing much LOL
short: win the lottery long: cheat death
i didn't know tremor worm farming was a thing
my characters are like level 390
my void is almost 420
hes my highest level for whatever reason
i did nightmare skull at 370 on dk
I guess i could upgrade weapon a couple times
lul
are you pushing with all toons?
no. everyone else is off in their own world
who are you pushing with
dk
Anyone have an idea what I'm doing wrong on rift 16? highest is 17/75 and I have 200-400m damage and 600% ms...
do you have any mob Max HP prayers equipped
nope, everything is one shot
don't think so. accuracy for current portal and portal i just reached are the same requirement. I may have actually lost my accuracy dmg a portal or two ago
39.7k isn't 1.5x of 25.5k so I don't think i'm getting the dmg from accuracy
damage doesn't really "drop" when you progress. mobs just get more hp. unless you are hit by the accuracy talent.
max talent on flag?
it's a huge chunk of dmg missing
only 1 point to flag, max the coin
flag is 49, which is as low as I can get unless I ditch symbols, coins at 191
might be worth to talent reset and not use symbols for the challenge
I just boosted my accuracy and my kill/s hr doubled. still not super fast portal opens but 2x as good lol- thx for pointing that out
Having the vman talent also helps
even the plunders are dead in one hit most attacks are critting for 7-2100m.. I have vman enhance as well
I must have the wrong skills on bar or something, I'm just not sure
i mean it should be pretty simple. pickup the coins when you get plunder buff as quick as they drop and aoe those new mobs for more coins.
I'm aware, it's just weird that like 80%+ of plunderous kills don't give buff and/or drop coins
l o l
inching closer to 400k
Where are people running that?
@tall horizon did you active the godric quest items or did you just afk some toons over a few months?
i hate stuns in td
void tower is your best friend
yeah but what if my void is stunned lmao
cry?
i cant speak since i am running clash of cans right now with low level towers trying to get void tower to sub 1 sec to make sure i dont it stunned
awesome i go cry now
ngl tho i think my problem is that i keep rushing waves
it sucks on w5 td when a purple one gets passed and the krakens make a single enemy take like 7 hp
i feel it just makes it so much harder than it needs to be to get those enemies killed
Why would the last boss of W2 dungeon be invincible? cause i failed a trail?
do I use chakra until i hit lvl25 in div? or should i use Focus to get more points
I thought i hit all skull rocks, no deaths. I think i failed 1 test, didnt think it was that strict
cans, kraken top floor
What does picking up the coins do that you want to do it so fast? Or is that what causes the respawn? Cause I thought just the skill being active did that.
realizes he's responding to something that was probably said much earlier cause his chat didn't scroll.
Check pins.
gotcha, thank you!
Just to confirm I got this right. So, I just unlocked Goat God man. I should basically just move all my guys from the Divinity Altar, back to the Lab in world 4, right? There's no advantage to having them be on the altar in world 5 anymore, yeah? (I have Doot.)
If you had doot, you didnt even have to unlock goat
You just needed lvl 2
World 5 Doot companion owners:
https://imgur.com/kXkZfj9
Have Doot >Playing like I don't, because autism
I have a good friend IRL who doesn't have Doot, and he's a couple weeks behind me on Idleon, I'm trying to kind of keep pace with what he's going to be going through.
You can definetely leave them there to gain div levels for their minor buffs that scale based on div level. Sadly however about keeping pace, you'll slowly leave them in the dust :/
@dapper prism In some aspects. He's beating me butt on all early skills though. (He lucked out and pulled a maxed Skill Eff, Troll Card, from his first card pack at his start in World 1. Guy's skills all outpaced me in the early worlds from that 1 card, pretty drastically. He boosted it up to 60% efficiency. That card is nuts.
skill effy won't affect your xp once you hit 1x (100%)
Unfortunately lead early on means nothing when you both reach w5 and you have doot
It'll surely help their samples, but you have perma omni for 3d procs, gaming/sailing etc including afk gain from doot
Well I have about 100x his damage at the moment. XD Yeah, Doot is pure cocaine.
You also have unlimited div pearls to just pump out skills
^ For easy lvl 50 in all skills
doot is my goal.
Damage doesnt mean much to damage tbh
where i can see all the equinox task?
#1161718287835603004 or wiki
why reach lv 500 on all char is impossible?
Its not
i know it pretty much hard and took long time but why impossible? i thought those player with >10k grind time should be easy reach that
Its not easy to do sure but certainly not impossible
10k GT won't make it easy
Mine is 25k and its still slow lol
lol 25k...
well, it impossible with me 
white pearl now will carry
is this one really giving dmg? because i got this recently and my dmg still the same as yesterday

Hi a qn what do u do once u get lvl 40 divinity on all chars?
we dont need to buy the crow perch for slab right since we'll get it from dungeon eventually?
I thought item from dungeon and non dungeon are separate things? Even tho they are the same item
Like platinum ore non dungeon and platinum ore dungeon
Dungeon weapons are a different item for each numbered grade even.
w5 td waves 110 to 120 always demolish me....
check pin
is there a guide for W2 dungeon ?
are you trying to solo, or actually play the dungeon?
solo
ill look it up see if i can figure it out, never rly done it in the past
whats your dungeon rank?
41
im running nightmare kattle atm, do you have the purple rng start item unlocked? and also horn unlocked?
100% crit ?
100% progression, pass or wazam will increase percentage
damage with foal is enough
just re enter flip coin
no need happy hour
had it down to 8, guess these are never going away
cause apparently there is like alot of different rooms, and timers on them
yea, check wiki about the room
also is there a suggested class for running those ?
its very short tbh, if already can solo w1 frog 4, you can do it
most people say dk is best but there are a couple maps that you dont want to multi hit on
not sure about that one xD
anyone can clarify how shrines are leveled up by afk gains with both moai head artifact and shrine world tour bonus from lab? like, are they leveled up by only toons in the same world as the shrines or not?
o naice
anyone have suggestion for unlocking chemical plant in gaming? I've been sending like near 1% research and i've legit done it hundreds of times and its been such a long time. Is there something im missing or just unlucky andy
pray to rnjesus, sacrifice a virgin
dont wait for 1%, just try research as often as you are able
So how are these people getting like 14mil water over cap and saying they are like 4 points into it?
ive fought nightmare kattle enough now to basically have enough cc ready to go with no drops other than obols lol
That was like 24 hours afk with my bubo doing 280k seconds every cranium and im getting like 10k lol
1% is way too high. Do it as soon as it shows 0.1%.
0.5% seems to be the sensible way to do it. It hits there fast, like 80 or so. Getting to 1% is like 300+, maybe more? Just not worth IMO
my bits have skyrocketed, almost near red bits and was struggling in the low trillion greens a sec ago
i think i was going for
.3% when i got mine. 1% was taking forever
69 nm kattle runs for 5 obols and nothing else, lets go lol
say what good map to crystal farm with DK ? idk if sand castle is the best for him w2*
sandy pots is what people usually do, tysons is an ok alternative if you dont care about glass shards and just want crystal stuff
ok ty!
whatcha mean craft a greenstack? what are you crafting? bullets?
there is the hold feature on the craft button
thats about it
aww man
speaking of which that reminds me that i also need to greenstack the craftables lol thank you
93 runs and finally got the necklace! woo
Put in inventory to craft
6,720 keys - 96 runs 5 obols and one necklace, not too bad considering the necklace alone bumped me from 280b to 311b
Get your stuff that u use to craft and put it in inventory cause it’s uncapped instead 100 per
killer. Im on like month #2 then haha. oh well
I’ve been trying to get the chemical for couple months now. Do 4-5 0.5% chances a day
0.5% is too much. Dont go over 0.2%.
yeah i hover around the 0.4%-0.5~ range
its just 2 refresh on the sprinkler and its at 0.4%~
everyone is connected to that god that gives gaming afk chacne and im just blowing through that every 4-6 hrs the past couple weeks
Craft from storage caps at 100 items per second
Withdrawing items then holding the plain craft button results in ever increasing speed. I got up to 10,000 per second before I ran out of items
rip only 1265 kills on kilroy with bubo, guess ill need much more respawn or timer ig
What is your +sec at?
33 or 34 i think, probably too low. and only 4 respawn so far
how do i raise afk gain rate?
cards/ star signs/ chips / arcade bonus / keychains / PO ...etc..
is there a limit to how many galvanic softwares you can buy? I didn't buy it yet but it says sold out
afaik there is no limit on chips
can the bubbles that require sailing mats be atomed?
i got 5 of them atleast
me too. this would've been the 6th
ik there is a 'bug' that makes chips unable to be purchased even if u havent purchased this week
dont really remember wat was the cause
I had The same issue with i think drop rate chip in another rotstion i was able to buy it so i guess its a bug
something along the lines of u not buying the chip from last week
Getting my first 🥳
https://i.imgur.com/TiVvRXX.png
woooo
Thank god it was an easy week, with the weekly boss. Can finaly get that dream done
Eyy yoo how did you get that much? XD
idk but i got 7 in the last 5 hours 
????????
and 5 since this morning
I got 1 in one year XD
You're a lucky lad 🤓
im w5 im at citringes
I was at 69/75 after this image from what i recall
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
Main thing just active DK is the king at lads
my phone dies from 3 hours of idleon XD
you dont use rucksack on your active DK? 
Nawh because i forget 99% of the time and end up doing something stupid
just never turn your computer off 
where you active DK'ing, trickz?
im playing on phone
i just always active on DK except when im making liquid heh
I started the 
ah, beans. gotcha
beans are the real endgame
I mean, with quickslab and statues.. I guess it isnt that wrong xD
statues, hotdogs, mana pots, and golden nomwiches
We just need something end gameish for frogs, so it feels like we have gone full circle. Start of W1 is the true endgame
We got Gmushing, Bean farming, and Frog something
feels so nice to have this DoT equi upgrade, TD is a lil less tedious now
oh teach me about the crow hat!
do i have to open obols in order for them to count as slab
cos i just wasted 1k frags to get those and it didnt count
how do i make these things spawn? Trying to do the equinox where i fill the board.
I think you need to cloudsave every step or it wont count thr in between. Like it wont count plat if you upgraded straight to dem without cloudsaving.
At least thats what i think i understood.
gotta do all the grind again i guess
Dem likely counted though right?
nope
... okay idk then
YEAH CLOUDSAVE OR JUST VISIT SLAB WITH THEM AND MAKE SURE IT SAVES TO THE TIME
oops caps
HINT if you didn't get cred for PICKING UP an obol, hit reroll, it'll count it as a pickup
i sold them after i got them unforunatly so rip
Cool to know.
You can also try to equip/unequip them
well that' was your bad for selling them in the middle of asking disc wtf is going on 😄
nha i sold them before that cos i thought they would count
then when they didnt i came here
gotcha, chek first
you're cool, we've all had this happen in one way or another
i'm sure lava is cool
his code though... hrm, might wanna verify first 😄
no he is cool
ye for example excidently used the evil point reset with a stack of like 14 and it all went away insted of one
415k nugget! niceeee!
Anyone know, how good or bad this scales?
https://i.imgur.com/xkDHYup.png
Like is it worth focusing on getting a few 100's of mil frogs before i lvl 13 vial my mice?
oh the anvil stones! yeah that threw me off i'd been saving the up wtf
almost made it to 140 td, boo. guess i just need more krappen towers. or levels
i wasted a stack too
Depends how high your helium atom is. The higher it is, the less your stack matters.
anyone can help with this?
i think do it all at the same time
do i just claim one ata time
its kinda meh imo, trapping eff isnt that good
and leae all the chemicals on the boasrd
only lvl 6
till i fill it up
Lv 6 is enough. Get your green stack and move on.
Also what about this? 😄
https://i.imgur.com/w2QGDkx.png
why do people only lvl shiny to lvl 5, doesn't it go higher?
it does, but it';s a good breakpoint
because lvl 5 is like 80-90ish days. lvl 6 is 200 days
Check your slab before you get rid of the item
doesnt take that long if u doing active tbh
not once you have shinys unlocked its not 200 days
i got to lvl 8 in like 2-3 days
The math is divided by also how many you place.. just talking about rough base
fill the friggin yard w them, maybe the lvl 5 suggestion was for people that were new
i had a few lvl 5s before shiny even got released
Okay, yeh took the screenshot to check how many ill get from 1 load of 20min traps to see what is possible
nah i'm talkin shiny w4 pets not shiny in traps, i see the confusion tho
i was getting 7.5k per claim iirc
Guess the math would just be 118x shiny per trap placed?
since thats the max prayer
idk i leave my beastmaster without parayers to get the shiny stack bonus put everyone on 20m and get 10k or more frogs per claim
20 min claims and you’re cooking
Why do you need the no prayers equipped bonus though
yeh, and you said without
Do you need to up your shiny chance
I dunno what the hell I've been doing for the last 3 days, but I did get my 60 portal kills on es to get one rift level away from ruby cards
i think i left my vman on full exp tho for the 7.5k
wait how do i check shiny chance
Getting rid of the curses of prayers (and 4/5 benefits)
Literally feel like I blinked and just somehow got 160 billion max damage on my es
118x 8 = 944 (per alt)
944x 9 = 8496 (for all w/o vman)
whats the general timeframe for 1m plunder mob kills? couple months?
Yeh it made no snese why anyone would do that though
yea sounds about right
Think i got like 5k+/- per night (just night)
The maths add up
anyone with the tags to the statue guide?
Pins
i'm still stuck on rift 41
only 200 nights then...
Only with low shiny chance does it make sense in this specific scenario, but sorry @junior delta I don’t know how to check shiny chance to see if it’s worth having the prayers on or not
ye thats what i am trying to find
It's always worth equipping
cos maybe my shiny chance is high enough
Mathematically if you're under 100% shiny chance, you always get 33% more shinies with it. If you're above 100% then it's just stonks.
A quick and dirty test is to do two 20 minute claims, one with shiny prayer and one without
Dont even need to test both though
Whichever has more is best for now
With prayer is definitely best in the end (endgame)
just testing with prayer is enough to math out how many of your traps got it (if 100%)
Oh?
nobody maths
sheepishly lowers hand
ima do the test
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REMEMBER TO BUY PICKLE!
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ty i forgot
Then sell the pickle. Abandon pickle.
i hope we could
who are the weirdos that DONT buy pickle every day???
I quit shop runs months ago :/
i don't remember to shop every day, but when i shop, i buy pickle
Did it for 80-81 days when i started about, then stopped xD
20 pickles in 
I regret not buying my bags though.. Never did the boss really until a few days ago for cards and realizing how fking op the daily bags are
bags are gems gems gems
worth it? i never bothered
It's several hours of candy per bag
Should I buy this statue thibg
'specially after farming bullseye statues, bags for years
I have been buying just about everything I can greenstack and pickle since equinox came out
A new hat 👀 I need
guys where is the latest TD guide?
eh, youtube has been doing me well
not realy i only bought 2 because i had 18k and wanted to move to w2
everything there to old tho
you can get those statues other ways but you can not get trophies other ways, so i'd say no
Get several kraken, focus party till kraken is 0.43-0.45s , Frozen pure A's
nothing has changed besides you're probably a bit stronger than the vid
A sht ton has changed with equinox..
ok nitpick me to death here trikky
kk thanks
i'm sayin if someone has no idea how to run a TD, the youtube vid is a great start
They never said they had no idea..
just wanna make sure to get the 121 for the equinox chalange
They asked for the latest guide since a ton changed
if i afk cook with zerker it will take 166 days to get 100k ladels. should i chow more first?
i generalize too much for sure, my bad
Yes, and dont worry about the 100k ladle dream tbh..
i'm usually used to people asking "where did THE GUIDE go" and if they were looking for the old guide, youtube works fine, then as you learn you can up your skillz
im at the point in equinox where everything seems like a dream lol
should "easily" get to ~2.5k+ ladels, better side is 3k+ and thats not including PO box +50%
i have all the "defeat this dungeon boss by yourself" and i just dont wanna
lol
i dont think i can, but more importantly i dont want to try haha
If you have horn unlocked, doing the solo dg's should be very easy tbh
only annoying one really is w2
^^^
"the horn" for people that dont know?
Horn of the foal is what I think it's called?
i mostly hate dungeons because of what a nightmare partying is especially during happy hour, i dont even bother anymore cuz of it
R40+ can easily force spawn it on entering
C O I N
Never had an issue if you party through #party-finder-👪 and setup a group that's r40+
yeah i've only tried the in game stuff which leave a lot to be desired
R40 ain't even hard to get, I've barely done dungeons and I'm 46
i could try party finder chan sometime
i have a feeling getting 130+ on frosty is still gonna be a yeadache
especially once u have the prayer and you do 1x HH a week kinda thing
yeah i'm r43 or 45 i think?
I just went through like two weeks ago and did as many of the achievements for dungeons as I could too
bags? 😮
Think I'm just missing the Michelin chef one
Back to shiny frogs:
https://i.imgur.com/7qc6fw2.png
Worked, 100%, easy 8.5k+ w/o vman
free frogga
i assume this for eyes for miniboss for free gems
Indeed
in forest shop where you get the silver doot eye thingie
ANNNND as a special prize right now, you can get excited about buying bags because you have so much statue farming to do in the tree that drops wood circles (needed for the eyes)
What are we buying whetstone for?
idk but it stackable 😄
Incase you want to do an XP push on all alts, gotta reset twice (e.g. 20x)
unless i need woodular circles for something else, i now own enough for 4.6 years worth of silver bags to turn into eyes
You switch from speed to pure xp and make anvil level zoom
I did DK and ES for clearing rift before respawn, I need one more, any recs?
2nd dk or 2nd es xD
ok mate the krakens is not going that low there is no way, they are at 0.73 and i got 12 party at A already, i have to start put some B upgrades for dmg for later am i wrong?
BUT DO NOT "USE" ONE OF A WHOLE STACK, SPLIT STACK TO 1 ONLY, IT'LL USE THEM ALL
Is it possible that the "beefy for real" prayer sucks?
No you dont need B since they stay stuck in place and Equinox TD dmg scaling will do it's thing
thats the thing that happened to me with 30ish the first time xD
oh so to put all 7 parties at 4 A upgrades?
my damage goes from 761B to 790B, my defence goes from 10000 to 4000, accuracy goes from 48M to 20M
i feel ya
this is really good advice
You'd only have 6 parties maybe even 5
not strong enough yet 😦 damn
Bubo vial attack with aura is nice dmg,
most things like this lava has fixed, but this will use the whole stack ouch. crossing fingers for update
i used the old setup 3 poison, 3 krakens, 2 strom, 1 ice 1 void and 7 parties
Before the update I always saw that you should have 10 A for the parties and the rest B. I assumed that it caps at 10x A. Is that wrong?
why 2 storm? and no you stack krakens, even old guides you would stack several krakens..
is there something buggy with acorn? just noticed it summons a bunch of dudes hat just totally ignore krakens, or is that known/by design
2 strom just for 100% crit is it unnesesery? and i cant put more kraken in that map i am standing on the platform there so there is no place for more
remind me which TD we're talkin about? i don't know of a CAP for A for the parties, just that it was enough at that point
Old was typically around 3x Party AAAB and 3-4x Party AABB
also when parties came out everyone said B was bugged and didn't work, but i dont think that lasted too long
well mb then, i used this thing haha
Oh no that's terrible
Even though this is also outdated, it still probably beats the spreadsheet in nearly all aspects:
Except Can, do can top floor
first protip, if you see towers that misplaced, you know it's an old pic/tutorial
oh sweet, thanks mate i will use those
Does it matter which character I use, to visit the sailing map and get the sailing loot?
Pro tip, if you see 3 kraken, you know it wont go high
kinda no but mostly yeah might as well use your sailing dude, but depends are you checking in all the time or like once per day or what?
@potent maple Couple times a day or so
yea sounds right the stat is kinda holding on until the dmg start get high from the new scake dmg thing
As said, still nick pick stuff, depending on map, waiting for them to bring out the updated pics/guides xD
i neglected my w3 td so bad that i got an additional 60 lvls on it today, i had to delete the kraken towers in the youtube build
Not really however SB may benefit a tiny amount over others but honestly dont think anyone would worry about it
cuz they were pusing bad guys out of range of boulders
wait is the w1 gublin one correct i thought pancake had 2 frozone on bottom layer
I already mentioned this is old..
You mean put the krakens to the top floor (and ice and void at the bottom?)?
yea the high wave will be usefull for all the upgrades that scale with wave, atm i will just go for the 130 for the challange tho, will minmax when the pros will give us new guides
oh mb reading hard
there's easily better ways now, just that these images at least dont use tiny platforms for 3 kraken kinda stuff
so when i just "check in" i go to my sailing dude first, he was probably doing a fight, so i switch him to skill build, check sailing. then as i rotate through checking other dudes, when they have sailing procs from gold hamster (we can revisit that in a sec if you have questions) then i go back to sailing guy and check again, till i get through all 10, then i go into active gaming mode
If you check sailing more than once, remove SB talent 11 btw
it can help if you're managing it correctly yeah
why so rough? you are only gaining like 1-3% min sailing time by using SB
That's unnecessary. I just finished 100% eldritch yesterday and always had that talent active.
is the 0.43-0.45 kraken the necessity? It seems to breakthrough for me when i go 0.42 kraken
cuz wtf do i know, i'm only doing my best
idk if im doing something else wrong or its cause i went to fast
weird cus i already completed them all =< its been a hot minute now
Apparently that time with frozen AAAAA's can perma freeze and hold minions in place. shouldnt breakthrough if void did it's job
is this a bug or?
sailing is slow, i doubt you're doing anything totally wrong, but you can take trikky's tips to help
Not necessary but if you dont use SB talent 11 and check game multiple times a day, those artifacts will surely come in way faster.
50 Chests > 29 chests
anyone know why i cant get the achievement?
try and click one of the constellations soemwhere with an alt
this one
say if i placed 8 traps, and have the prayer that gives 100 shines per stack, and gets 808 shines those that means i have 100 shiny chance with the prayer
i completed with another character and went back to another character to level
but still same
Anyone know why for months now I haven't gotten anything from sailing
Well yeh.. basic math o.o
@dapper prism yea you was right lol 7 parties is just overkill
I had to reload the game for this one to proc
try to re enter world 5
Got another one 
https://i.imgur.com/WUDxXBV.png
i got a few in other chars but when its time for my vman to get it i get nothing lol =']
can we pin this thing btw?
oh kk
and as said, it's got a bunch of outdated stuff
dont wanna pin the temporary thing i get it
Oh it's not about the single one, but i got 7 within a few hours earlier, and 5 throughout the day (if you follow the pin train) so a pretty lucky streak on lads
it seems a tad easier to get them these days. but not for my vman =']
just cnady dreadlo and make sure you setup stuff right,
unless you still need the stamp or 5* card
i just did it on palm to get the shield
Palm has a higher rare drop bag then dreadlo
Also half the times people say they used like a month of candy ended up having like 20-30 skill speed, sub 200% afk, terrible cards or set and no DR
So theoretically may be better than dread
im so far from getting 5*s =']
Read my statment again.
Then comment
if i have a dootophone do i not even need dootjat eye at all anymore? or do i still need to craft those thigns?
the rift challenge i cant 1 hit them
woops, wrong world XD
im at R41 right now
Yeah but some people don’t want xp lol
They are in a Dr build trying for a lucky lad
Right but if they don’t have a lot of candy maybe they wanna try the place with better odds?
you have 8 card slots, you only need 1-3 cards either way, rest is sample cards vs dr cards
my vman rn lol still a long way to go
If they dont want to candy it then they can just active crystal kills and get it in a night (if choco chip)
Fair I would never active vman with my GT 
Your statement just reconfirms wasting more candy
Not touching vman till 10k Gt
on little gains
what is gt?
Grind time, yellow class xp bubble
~5k is pretty much enough early on
10k is enough to start push all 10 char to 500 btw?
You can get an easy 1-1.5k levels in a day once your bubbo is setup
w6
people at GT 20k barely have 500-all
mainly because classes like BB suck
you are not bothering pushing to 500 then?
Idk to me w6 seems closer than it feels since we got the first npc pics in august
That would be cool
Then you don't bubo CC properly yet 🤷
no i only started to cc my bubo hahaha
As long as lava hasnt said a word about potential new skills for w6, it's nowhere near.
10b or 10m?
10000m
10 kilometers
10b..
10km haha
I wish my bubo aura reached 10 KM
beeg orra
Just gotta get those big CC's
||https://i.imgur.com/bSBctZX.png||
New passive unlocked: bubo's aura is wide enough to active the entire world instead of just one map.
726k?!
Off to bed without any further comments 
That’s a double CC moment 
i want those Ts currently im doing 100000m dmg its weird
isnt it 1T?
It starts at 10t
=<
does attack speed affect cast speed?
That’s also 100B not one T 😦
Missing a zero
these numbers are so confusing
The 4th number is your billion place
From the M going right to left
Two more digits to the left would be 100B
I always find it easy to read lavas number right to left instead of normally 
Precisely
Is there any point in going for the Eldrich Fury relic with percentage this low?
I for some reason decided to finish that achievement after I did the Dream for the third boss
That’s just how eldritch is on the later islands
you wont get it much higher than that
Still need 10-15 runs
Ah ok thanks
What should I focus on in sailing?
https://instinctx.idleonefficiency.com
I’d grab the artifact chance and speed relics eldritch before going for fury tho
Just make sure your boats are going to the furthest Island they can individually
Then it will likely sort itself out.. There are a few of the early artifact that are good to focus on to make it easier though.
But you can just make your "bad" boats do that
so now with the all bubbles pet is it worth leveling this?
2-3months
About 20k a day I found
Late reply, but u need coin talent lvl. More lvl in coin (not flag) is coin buff duration when u kill plunder mob. Rift doesn't spawn crystal so u don't have crystal to help u get more coins. Therefore you only have 2% (4% w vman) plunder spawn chance per mob respawn
And when coin buff drops, ur flag counter does too
What prayers do you use for speedrun ? Fibers seems like it should be good, but the hit to damage is so huge, does it actually come out better ?
That prayer is only good if u are not miltikilling the mob
hey lads, where are the TD guides again?
Active es
So do i trust in game or toolbox?
reee
does the construction mastery 100+ talent library mean +100 lvl talent? so the max is 345?
dahell does it mean then? 😛
Level to the building in cons
like the other construction mastery bonuses, it increases the building level
aaaaaaaaah
click it?
i mean
it drops at 90%
allways get to 90% or stop in like 86
ok ty
4% less resources for so little liquid is def. worth
are
Yes, but only with equinox bonus
It's not a big boost tbh, there are more important things to focus in equinox
the liquid is better 😄
Oh yeah?
yup
I don't active play my bubo tho
ouch
missing out
😭
im pumping that damage too
😄
every increase is like 4T damage
its hot :3
big upgrades this morning
zerg prayer?
Gotta get the Zerg with equinox TD buff
oh shoot hold on
Kattle obols are frequently missed too
Crow Perch hat - worth the 125 or not 😄
Need help with the 100k equinox challenge. My current setup gets 85k
