lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[spice stirrup]

COGGERS

[covert sphinx]

are the new killroy upgrades worth getting?

[spice stirrup]

Cogtimizer is a nice tool

[foggy apex]

wat

[hidden osprey]

is there a way to craft more than 100 items per second in storage?

from storage*

[spice stirrup]

https://monoblos.github.io/cogtimizer/

[true obsidian]

nope, you need to get your materials into your inventory, then click->hold your craft button then Alt + Tab while still holding it

[foggy apex]

whats it mean by username

[true obsidian]

it mean your username...1st char name

[foggy apex]

ah

[true obsidian]

jesus...

[spice stirrup]

I just paste the json data

[foggy apex]

how do that?

[hidden osprey]

thank uu ❤️

[true obsidian]

please, just type your 1st char name, didn't need to make it complicated...

[foggy apex]

its not working

[true obsidian]

it work fine with me

click Load

then click Cogs

[foggy apex]

still not working

[true obsidian]

give me your 1st char name

[spice stirrup]

char name loading doesn't work for me either

[true obsidian]

hmm..

[true obsidian]

go to idleonefficiency -> raw data

[eternal dove]

dont you need to upload your public profile first?

[foggy apex]

my that worked instantly

whats this?

[spice stirrup]

that's where you setup the values for which you wanna focus on

[foggy apex]

ah k

[spice stirrup]

solve times is how long it takes to get a solution, i assume longer is better

[true obsidian]

the solve button help you maximize your cogs position

[foggy apex]

ok

[true obsidian]

and you need to focus on exp cogs, not build rate cogs, those are trash

[devout stone]

why do people recommend having only 1 or 2 on the board? and the rest are producing cog?

[foggy apex]

why exp? isnt build rate the thing u need most?

[true obsidian]

for maximize cons exp

[true obsidian]

nope, exp is the best

more cons lv = more build rate

[foggy apex]

oh ok

[true obsidian]

there is the bubble give you build rate per cons lv

[devout stone]

oh i didn't know they are share among all the players on the board

[true obsidian]

so with exp, it'll scale infinite

[true obsidian]

they not share, it because with 1 char, you can maximize your cog position to get most exp

like everything buff that char

but i still think 2 is better

[sinful aurora]

Only squires matter anyway. Other characters have too little cons rate to make a difference.

[dapper prism]

Pure XP build

[devout stone]

ok thanks

[swift rose]

is there a class thats better to boss on for drop rate?

[true obsidian]

archer?

vman if you strong enough

[swift rose]

why archer?

[devout stone]

I have some questions about divinity. If I have Doot pet, I can be in the lab instead, right? because of Goharut or I can do whatever

[swift rose]

yes

[true obsidian]

i don't know

[devout stone]

yes lab or whatever?

[dapper prism]

World 5 Doot companion owners:
https://imgur.com/kXkZfj9

[swift rose]

if you want to level lab and div, yes to lab.

[dapper prism]

W5 is the ideal time to backtrack and do stuff like this to name a few:
https://imgur.com/c1RhPXA

[devout stone]

thank you

[eternal dove]

on cogtimizer is it supposed to keep swapping with cogs it the same position for every swap??? like every step is moving something from [4|1] to somewhere else.. is it supposed to be like that?

[spice stirrup]

yeah it does that

[dapper prism]

If you have gem cogs, i wouldnt even fully bother with cogtimizer

[true obsidian]

yes, but it have animation too so you don't need to readd all of that

[true obsidian]

i only have 4 gems cogs

[eternal dove]

gotcha wasnt sure if it was glitching out for me or something

[true obsidian]

does gem cogs still worth for buy all?

[dapper prism]

Always "worth" buying more, the only question is in what priority, some other thigns can bring you more value for your gems. Cogs get very expensive

[true obsidian]

i always have a fear that when i just spend my gems, lava update his good gems shop...i missed those godlike keychain because of that :<<

[swift wharf]

Maybe wait for a Halloween event? He might have some stuff there

[dapper prism]

Always good to make sure to have some thousand gems stacked for bis things like keychains (mob respawn) etc

[true obsidian]

sad that he never re-run them again. those keychain too powerfull for a "f2p" game :))))

[dapper prism]

re run them?

they were just in the shop not long ago

[true obsidian]

that's mob respawn, they use to have afk gain keychain or something like that

the one need to gacha like wings iirc

[upper cosmos]

Anyone got any tips for defeating nightmare cattlekruk with vman?

[true obsidian]

run left and right continuously, just punch 1-2 hit on boss when pass it

funny is it still faster than BB

[eternal dove]

and why does cogtimizer show cogs that dont exist?

like i only have first and half of 2nd page of cogs.. but cogtimizer has like every page full of cogs

[foggy apex]

can i just do this?

[true obsidian]

Yes, as long as you have exp, later you just need purple and previous cog, no need to use grey and yellow cog

[sacred verge]

pretty bad setupo

[foggy apex]

but grey seems to just the same purple tho?

[true obsidian]

He still new and have low cons lv

[foggy apex]

no

[sacred verge]

can still setup the premium cogs way better

[foggy apex]

how is that small its 100+

[true obsidian]

Nope, purple have more stats than grey, also you need to aim for better exp, like me now trying to get all non-pointing cogs >89% exp, mostly use purple and the previous one

[true obsidian]

Small

[errant sluice]

its small

[foggy apex]

show me urs

that sounds bad

[errant sluice]

mine is like 380 and thats bad aswell

[true obsidian]

btw, i'm small too

[sacred verge]

this is low

[true obsidian]

if you have cons lv <500, it small

500, meh, it's ok

[foggy apex]

me

[true obsidian]

600, now you start something

[errant sluice]

doesnt pancake have like 1000?

[true obsidian]

700, sound good

[foggy apex]

whats your xp?

[foggy apex]

oh im not that bad comparing

[true obsidian]

and i still have a lot cons exp pointing cogs

[sacred verge]

check here

[true obsidian]

nope, you bad

[foggy apex]

whatre all your others doing?

[foggy apex]

jesus

ok

[potent maple]

recommended class for this?

[errant sluice]

i did vman

all 3 with vman

[potent maple]

my vman not so strong though?

only lvl 374

[true obsidian]

do you really know how hard to increase 1000% exp?, and you say it not bad comparing 💀

[errant sluice]

level doesnt matter for dungeon

[potent maple]

yeah i guess that makes sense

[true obsidian]

DK

[sacred verge]

its the one shown on char that matters tho

[dapper prism]

that is damn terrible

Like.. really terrible

[real perch]

Its not that hard to increase player xp bonus

[potent maple]

why so grey? 😦

[dapper prism]

They arnt using greys, etc.. they have all their alts on board, so they arnt really making anything extra.

the gem cogs arnt even aiming at alts (squires)

the whole layout is just terrible @foggy apex

https://i.imgur.com/Kw9mCpP.png

[potent maple]

sit active for like 20 minutes with both construction dudes pumping out the cogs on purple, you should be able to go through pages and pages of cogs in that amount of time, then do that "solve" thing on the website tool

[foggy apex]

ok

[potent maple]

i think i fill all my slots in under a minute, cuz i'm working on that right now too

[dapper prism]

Thats not even the only issue

the fact that they have 3 gem cogs not aiming at alts..

Only keep your 1-2 squires on the board, nothing else.

https://i.imgur.com/rammj79.png

[potent maple]

right, hopefully with good cogs they will take placement more seriously

[dapper prism]

cant get good cogs with low con levels if they dont even setup basics

[potent maple]

(unless you're BRIEFLY trying to pump out cogs, then put them in cog production)

not trying to argue, trickz knows stuff

[dapper prism]

Yeh, my point isnt making cogs my point is removing all those other alts from the board for now

And setting up the board somewhat better, moving 3 gem cogs that arnt even in range atm to them

[true obsidian]

hmm...what the "solve" thing on the website tool base on? build rate or exp?

[dapper prism]

It has a setting

just look at that

[potent maple]

you can weigh it however you want

[dapper prism]

but either way, it's pretty bad at times

[potent maple]

it is a whole lot of algorithm to "solve" so yeah I can see it not being so perfect in the least, it's a trial and error method

but if it's giving you improvement, that should be welcomed yeah?

[true obsidian]

so i should setting like this for best exp gain?

[potent maple]

as i understand it, i'd agree

[dapper prism]

Even if you set it like that.. whats the point? you know directionals aim at your squires and the other % xps are just random on your map

so you could manually move your highest BR non directional ones closer to the gem cogs

[potent maple]

you're not mixing up trollergod and jesus are ya tricks?

[dapper prism]

Like, on a serious note, what would cogtimizer even tell you to do if you tell it to "purely look at xp" that you cant do yourself

[true obsidian]

that's a good point

[potent maple]

training wheels 😄

[eternal dove]

yeah i kinda just manually redid mine towards xp and it felt a lot faster tbh

[true obsidian]

yep

found 1 stupid thing, that tool can't be serious

[dapper prism]

tool constantly moves gem cogs away

which defeats the whole purpose tbh

[true obsidian]

how switch these 2 is the better solve

[eternal dove]

i had put it off for so long and figured it was time to redo it. i kinda put off the tool when it was telling me to put cogs that dont exist

[potent maple]

i imagine someone worked hard on it even if it's not to everyone's standards shrug

[dapper prism]

It always moves stuff to one area, then away from there

[dapper prism]

I feel like it would actually help if you could lock certain cogs in place.

That way its just about moving certain directionals and then matching it with the gem cogs to maximize br.

[potent maple]

i played a diff idle game that had a tool similar to this, and it did have that function to "ignore these squares", that makes sense

get ye to the programming trickz

[dapper prism]

Meh

Thing is, overtime even those can barely be moved once you have a directional one for each area within the grid
https://i.imgur.com/2FUNOOs.png

I like to every now and then remove all the xp cogs that are outside, and set them up by highest xp on top, lowest on bottom, then when i get new good ones, i can just replace them backwards

[potent maple]

in alphabetically order by number huh?

what's that directional in the lower right?

[dapper prism]

nothing

just a high xp

[potent maple]

ah

[dapper prism]

same as the 103 and 106 on the right side middle

[potent maple]

so does your directional 41% on the left column 4th row have additonal exp on it or no?

same with the 0%s and stuff

[dapper prism]

yes

https://i.imgur.com/laTRB3o.png

https://i.imgur.com/y6Jw1aD.png

Directional player xp is strong

[potent maple]

ok gotcha, do you expect them to be as high as other total numbers for other cogs or are they special bonus somehow?

[eternal dove]

sad day

[dapper prism]

They can be a bunch higher, that 22% player con xp nets me more than a 90% base xp for example

[dapper prism]

just pulled one myself xD
https://i.imgur.com/PdZweEq.png

Was like "maybe i get to replace one of the last BR's but nope 😦

[potent maple]

hrm, i'll probably ask you for more details next time i'm at the cogerator

[eternal dove]

just pulled this baby tho

[dapper prism]

nice

[eternal dove]

would you say this is a fairly decent setup tho considering i just did this in like 5-10 mins

[potent maple]

I felt this was decent

[dapper prism]

messed up the gem cog / row.
Late late on, once you have all directionals, your bottom left gem cog (top right corner) would be blocking the path of a ulti omni cog (the one you posted earlier for example)

[vagrant mountain]

wen can i stop clicking this

[raven vale]

no stop

only click

[vagrant mountain]

[potent maple]

i just completed equinox challenge earlier and don't have the energy to fix my board tonight, i will cry myself to sleep but fix it tomorrow

[prisma drift]

120%

[prisma drift]

I know what I said

[vagrant mountain]

[prisma drift]

It’s not actually inf tho

[eternal dove]

wait how would it block an ulti for bottom left corner? shouldnt the ulti go in the 36% double cog spot?

[dapper prism]

nvm im blind, its late xD

[vagrant mountain]

i think 120% just not obtainable

[eternal dove]

ahhhh i was questioning if i myself was blind for a moment there. which i kinda am tbh. so then youd say its a pretty decent cog setup then?

[vagrant mountain]

or is it

[prisma drift]

Too much

You could stop at 170k

Ezpz

[vagrant mountain]

i stop at 8500 kk

[potent maple]

why is shiny lvl threshold at lvl 5? it goes higher doesn't it?

[prisma drift]

No way

10k for the nice number at least

You’re already at 85

[fair karma]

If I have an ES linked to Goharut and put second link to Arctis, but not place it in the lab, do I gain exp por both lab and divinity? or it has to be physically in the lab yes or yes?

thanks!

[vagrant mountain]

?

you need to be in lab

[timber viper]

this is 1,7m not 170k - just sayin

[daring moat]

yes

[eternal dove]

if only this was an xp column

[daring moat]

[prisma drift]

To be fair no one is hitting 170k either so I didn’t check too hard

Some bubbles do hit there “cap” at around 200k tho so I just assumed

[timber viper]

it does but after 5 it takes exponentially longer to unlock new levels - meaning youre better off 5-ing all shinys first before going further

[eternal dove]

oh yesssssssss

[sinful aurora]

Lv 6 takes ages.

Or just a 6 months break from the game like i did

[dapper prism]

think it around 10 days if you do 3x 9 pets

maybe a bit more

[prisma drift]

Big snail

Maybe I can get one of those cool million nuggets from eclipse too

[eternal dove]

110% directional cog thats not xp...

[rough crest]

if stuck with low dmg, should i go for exlipse skulls and bubble progress?

[teal lynx]

I did my Gmush Eclipse Skull with 5m kph and the others of World 1-3 when my Gmush was 10m kph

Not sure how low we are talking, but Alchemy is always the answer

[dapper prism]

5m seems pretty low

[teal lynx]

I just had my SB afk there, nothing better to do

[dapper prism]

True

[rough crest]

this low

[dapper prism]

especially gmush

stats is irrelevant, show afk window. Also that gear is a bit eh..

Never make lustre or diabolical gear tbh

[rough crest]

null salts are my bane rn

[dapper prism]

By W5 should easily be able to make chizoar set(s)

[solid lantern]

^ This, tbh make it once for the slabs but yeah no good

[rough crest]

it was for slab yes
but i lack the stuff for the rest of the troll set

[solid lantern]

you can get away with not making the helm, the other though, especially the boots are easy enough

[rough crest]

need more shells and salts for the troll gear

[solid lantern]

just make it for your active farmers and go from there tbh

[rough crest]

this is my active farmer atm
cause im also trying for the 1mil on DK

currently at 300k/1mil

guess my issue is still being new with a late start

[gilded salmon]

Is there any bonus for getting meals to lv 50?

[wind umbra]

more vman bonus

[teal lynx]

With 500k kph I woildn't even go near Eclipse Skulls. And you should probably farm some DR Obols, Pop from Gigafrogs (last World of World 1) and upgrade them to silver. Then Dice Obols from W2 Crystal Mobs for the rest of your Obols
Pop farm with ES and Dice with DK (this is heavily influenced by crystal cards, card doublers and choco chip)

Also as a reference. My SB was around 700 Billion dmg when I did my Eclipse Skulls

[dapper prism]

My SB was 504B 😄

Although gmush camping will happen way before then, as sb should be at gmush most of the time anyways for the money multi

[eternal dove]

ok i think im done for the timebeing trying to finish my directional xp cogs

[prisma drift]

No ultra Omni

[eternal dove]

every omni i was getting were all flaggy 😦

[prisma drift]

Yeah me too

Ultra Omni loves flag speed and rate

[flint shard]

Why do you use only 1 char?

[granite grove]

only 1 DK i suppose

[eternal dove]

im just trying to focus as much xp as i can on him rn. i have 2 dks but this one is like 90 levels above the other currently. ik i prob should include my other dk but i dont have the brainpower nor willpower to rearrange atm

for reference ive been doing cog farming for about 3 hours now

[rough crest]

Ah i see, well i lack a chocochip
And i do have some pops and dice already

But do you mean making a character wear nothing but those?

[teal lynx]

Yeah, Droprate obols should be in your family tree and in your personal tree when farming active on DK, ES. Nothing else really matters when you are active

[thorn marsh]

what obols you using for active bubo then?

[broken pilot]

I know shouldn’t worry about KattleFriedCruk yet, but what is the minimum damage needed to kill him?

[teal lynx]

Oh also DR. Forgot Bubo haha

Money Multipliers

[true anchor]

what would you guys but boxes into after the main skill of that class is done

[quartz urchin]

Food if you want to push skilling samples

[potent maple]

i hate the game of "what did i change that made my friggin DR go down"

f

[steel merlin]

Is there a easy way to increase bit gain rate for gaming?

[potent maple]

whole list https://idleoninsight.com/?search=bit

[thorn marsh]

doesn't really start to kick off until you get the artifacts imo

[potent maple]

also included are some frost"bit"e things

imo you get the best gains from gaming by DOING gaming, invest in imports and ranks etc

in the long term, you will find other major jumps, but the best is from gaming itself

aka, grind it. sry for bad news

[vagrant mountain]

[potent maple]

nice

[vagrant mountain]

feels like im missing something

i got 2 days to figure it out

[steel merlin]

aw alright then

Thought there is an easy way to push up gaming

[potent maple]

yup, DOING gaming like i said

[thorn marsh]

you must be new here... nothing is easy

[potent maple]

then you'll unlock artifacts and stuff that will make it bigger, but best bigger is maxing gaming specifically getting the last mutation, every 10 dna you can get a .1% chance to mutate, instead of hitting "harvest all" micromanage to make the best use of plant dna

it'll still take a while but that's solid approach

it takes more and more dna for the next lvl chance so might as well spend often

[potent maple]

basically just hang in there

[potent maple]

oh! obols der

[slender terrace]

will level 10 lab fuse help get the missing gems you cant hit with 6 characters?

[potent maple]

i hear nope.

afaik it's completely useless atm

[slender terrace]

dang, probs should have asked that before putting 4 points into it lol, i naively hoped ahaha

[potent maple]

eh i forgot about equinox for 3 days, and thought it was useless to bother with "new materials" so ...

at least get the first new material for vial, it's +speed to equinox bar fill

i sampled it on 2 characters and already lvl 11 vial

[slender terrace]

yeah i got those...after wasting points into lab fuse XD

[potent maple]

the rest of my samples are snek skin to get last lvl on statue depositing while i'm finishing my last statues

atoms be damned, i'll get back to them tomorrow

[slender terrace]

im just waiting on epic rolls for dream particle vial then all maxed. Could always just sample with maestro, thats how iv done monster part vials

well, not all vials maxed obviously aha just the new resources....how many years to max bob joe pickle vial i wonder XD

[potent maple]

but that's cuz vman is good at multikill which doesn't say the same for skill samples

[potent maple]

i have leveled it again, but have yet to see someone else lvl it a 3rd time

you mean maestro in void runs right? yeah that's a multikill bonus not a skill sample bonus

[slender terrace]

78/100 for me for bobjoe aha. You get pretty crazy good samples if you sample during whatever his run is called, i would go with the atoms and let him sit on snake samples. I guess its all about what goals you want to achieve first

yah maestro void run samples, i dont use him for resource sampling

[patent hatch]

poggers

[potent maple]

the topic was equinox resources, so that's what i thought you were talking about tbh

[slender terrace]

ah yeah my bad man soz, should have mentioned the snek skin sample ❤️

[potent maple]

i realized earlier today i have never unlocked the anvil recipe for magma helm 🤦‍♀️

i'm sure i can get overnight, but i wanted box statues from our friendly penguins

speaking of overnight...

[slender terrace]

trying to get onyx box statues :O? dang that seems like it would take awhile

[civic creek]

I'm trying to get to the 1b sample size for the cloud quest. Do you have any suggestions on what to focus on? I'm currently at a 445M oak sample with my second character (gitterwork). This is my setup: https://gitterrost4.idleonefficiency.com/

[thorn marsh]

yeah, kill your slushes

^ this is why we can't have nice things

[cobalt nimbus]

Any island fishes guide to what lines and bait to uses and where to get the best for printing?

[fast grail]

Please level multi-tool stamp

And work on your purple alch, that is still VERY low for what you are trying to push, try to push all bubbles related to sampling to 90% of maximum effectiveness

[civic creek]

what does maximum effectiveness mean here?

[urban pond]

is it any good?

[bright current]

fellas, thoughts on max leveling the SB flag?

seems not super worth

[thorn marsh]

that's my conclusion as well

[fast grail]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1087501872002256966

[civic creek]

Thank you!

[bold quiver]

good if u are trying to level up, every extra exp is welcome

[civic creek]

do you suggest leveling all of them equally?

[fast grail]

Later ones can be maybe a bit lower, but in terms of %effectinvess they should be roughly the same. start with bubbles 2 and 3 and then move on from there

[civic creek]

Gotcha, thank you!

[cerulean hemlock]

Resampling is easy 😉

[foggy apex]

how have i done this?

[prisma furnace]

Damn that first new Killroy buff really makes a difference

[foggy apex]

what killroy buff?

[prisma furnace]

The first one from Equinox

So that they respawn faster in his "event"

[foggy apex]

ooo

whats the second choice?

or you dont have it?

[prisma furnace]

I dont remember, it didn't seem significant when I read it. It's all in the equinox tab in tips-n-tricks

[untold leaf]

Dungeon credits

[prisma furnace]

I just got the first one, and went back to upgrading other stuff

[dense prism]

whats the max orb level i should get on dk ?

[prisma furnace]

267 with mana post office box or 305 without if I remember correctly

[dense prism]

k ty

[prisma furnace]

Is it holy Pearls you get from the last Killroy buff from Equinox?

[civic creek]

why is there a maximum?

[teal lynx]

At 268 the timer overlaps and resets the orb 2 times

[prisma furnace]

I'm guessing cause you get it refreshed faster then it lasts

[civic creek]

Ohhh, okay

[prisma furnace]

So when it activates again it resets your orb count

[prisma drift]

Also resets again when the first one disappears I believe

So overlap is very bad

[civic creek]

So it's actually detrimental to have it higher

[prisma drift]

Yeah I just didn’t level mana box

[civic creek]

damn... I need to reset my skills then

[prisma drift]

I run a 150 second orb for DK

[gray schooner]

when i upgrade the equinox shovel bonus from say lvl 1 to lvl 2 and i dug up 100 nuggets before the upgrade, do i have 100% nug bonus now, or 200%?

[crimson bison]

so with no more praying active, it doesn't show my odds of giant monsters. do those work together or no?

[olive sphinx]

Can someone explain how ancient and eldritch relics work ?

[foggy apex]

whats the best place to farm wormhole kills?

currently at 500m dmg

[safe harness]

it might not be optimal, but im doing a bit of both while green stacking w1-4 materials if you havent done that yet

[foggy apex]

ok bet

[safe harness]

also about your dmg

also get enough materials at same time to finish your anvil if you havent

[zinc torrent]

Can you use the Fibers of absence prayer to make this rift go faster bros?

[dense prism]

unequip it and check kills/hr if it goes down than yes

is Crystal farming the best way to drop lucky lads ?

[sick sentinel]

A lot of lucky lads yes. dk w1, bubo tremor wurms both drop plenty. If for begginer candying dreadlo (or highest ore u have 100% on) or catching with drop rate, skilling speed, afk gains,

[dense prism]

yeah i just need them for the trophy im 36/75 and kept all since ive started crystal statue farming.

its just that i got 2 in 6h

[sick sentinel]

Thats how it is sometimes, im still on the grind too

Dk beans felt best

[dense prism]

yeah but bubo tremor wurms make my monkey brain tingle everytime i see big cranium numbers

[red slate]

do you pick up your chems at t4 or wait until t5?

[sick sentinel]

I wait for t5 so that log gets reset completely

[gray schooner]

i'd only wait for t5 if you can get it in a reasonable amount of time though

[sick sentinel]

Im at 19 dr, mileage will vary in the department. You'll prob have more luck with dk if lucky lads are you goal

[sacred verge]

whats the max DR on DK nowdays? (without equinox buff) 🙂

[tribal tiger]

what is a good spot for cranium cooking farming ?

[sacred verge]

wurms

[sick sentinel]

With drop rate doubled i get prob around 21.5 mqybe a bit higher

I sit at 20.8 with crystals doubled

[sacred verge]

alright ty

i need that damn trophy doubler

[gentle furnace]

i thought you can get higher with the 1.2x multi

[sick sentinel]

I dont hqve 4th sparkle slot tho

U prob can, these are more my stats

[slender sandal]

if your damage is too low for wurms do citringes or even floms/cans in w4, just remember you probably need a second cycle if your bubbles/skill level are low so you can get the stage properly poison covered frst

[pearl cedar]

F2p or p2w?

[sacred verge]

p2w

[pearl cedar]

Crystal I'm at 21.42, dr I'm at 22.63. But Im missing steamy pendant and max event cards

[sacred verge]

alright tyty

also, does brew rate affect liquid regen?

[pearl cedar]

Plunder kills about 150k

[vestal delta]

finally hit my mini-goal of 2 minute respawn time :D

[sacred verge]

1 min next

[vestal delta]

... I'll do my best 😂
might need a 9-digit nugget for that

[sacred verge]

what ur current nugget?

[vestal delta]

just hit 1m last night

[sacred verge]

damn, nice

[little burrow]

I dont equip midas on es, if i want to farm normal mats right?

[pearl cedar]

Or rare mats

[little burrow]

okay thanks

[pearl cedar]

Well unless you have enough damage i guess

But requires some big boy damage

[little burrow]

I have 210 bil damage and 16 dr

[pearl cedar]

Then no midas.

[little burrow]

okay

[pearl cedar]

Think you need in the 5-10q range for w1 mobs

[little burrow]

didnt even know thats possible, thought people are still at trillion...

[pearl cedar]

ES is hard to get that high, SB a few people in the 10q+ range

[fast grail]

with qs/name i guess, any damage is possible

[mortal compass]

someone on the reddit made a graphic for the vman speedrun (like within the last month or two). i cannot seem to find it. does anyone have it saved?

[fast grail]

if lava takes too long with w6, ppl gonna start getting qq+ damage before it even releases

[pearl cedar]

That's the goal

[mortal compass]

ignore me i found it

[pearl cedar]

Though I don't do enough bubble clicking for all that

[fast grail]

i mean, as long as you qs every day, will eventually reach it

[pearl cedar]

I'm probably only taking it to 10k

[tidal sky]

with cat?

[sacred verge]

if its without kitsune im impressed

[tidal sky]

that is my exact thought, but It can't be...

[sacred verge]

nah no way its without

[vestal delta]

yeah with cat 😂
I don't think it's possible without

[tidal sky]

how low are u at without?

[vestal delta]

no idea, can't check for a while since I'm doing some chem trains + logbook grinding

my cat is exactly at 200% though, so can probably math it out?

[tidal sky]

too much of a hassle, but it must be very low

[vestal delta]

last i remember, before I perma kept cat on, it was at like 17 minutes or so

[tidal sky]

idk how that multiplier works exactly

what do i do when shit like this happen?

[vestal delta]

git gud and take that 50/50

[tidal sky]

i'm not crazy

[vestal delta]

ok just finished my logbook, I'll check time once I'm out of chems

[green eagle]

please sir, may i have two more chems? i've been good and waited all week

[vestal delta]

bad cat owners don't get chems

[cerulean hemlock]

no.

[cerulean hemlock]

cats like cardboard boxes.

[green eagle]

i must be the worst cat owner because i don't have one

[vestal delta]

mfw

[green eagle]

yeah i had two chems at the start already and just went with it

may have helped or not, idc haha

i don't have t7 plants yet cuz my snail took a dive a while ago, so i was working on what i could with kitsune off

[vestal delta]

that's fair, good luck on the last 2 chems

[green eagle]

thank you

[sweet pine]

gl.

[rapid python]

what channel is this? i have No Access

[green eagle]

tbf, thanks to my trusty doot, i have omni every login so gaming goes quickly without rock a lot

[green eagle]

#👀read-me

pick the role for endgame

[distant oxide]

Alright, which of these do i replace? Just got a 71% loot value one available to buy...

[sweet pine]

if you already unlocked all island, the cloud rate dude need to go

[distant oxide]

Cloud rate guy is only there for the speed

You think that's the worst one at 31% speed?

[vestal delta]

direct upgrade to Q
the speed ones are hard to justify replacing with loot

unless you just don't need speed any more

[distant oxide]

to be fair, i am getting to the point where i don't need speed

[vestal delta]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sweet pine]

between A or 0 for me

[vestal delta]

if you've gotten to the point where you don't need speed, then you also don't need loot cause you're done with sailing

[green eagle]

captain T imo

[distant oxide]

i have 2 more eldritch left, that's it

[green eagle]

all captain T does is bring meh speed to the table

[distant oxide]

O is worse than T since all islands unlocked

[green eagle]

although i doubt it will be soon, i'd keep the cloud with major speed that you have on the offchance he brings more islands with w6

[manic moat]

what does the number next to the percentage mean?

[distant oxide]

that's the base value

to make it easier to compare

[manic moat]

oh, nice

[sweet pine]

sadly captian T somehow more speed than captian A

[vestal delta]

are all of your ships at at least 60m speed already with your current setup?

[distant oxide]

they aren't all 60m speed, no

[green eagle]

yes, but O's speed nearly matches T's speed and like i said on the off chance another island is added his bonus O > T

and yes i know it may never happen, but if he gets a better captain roll in the future then O might be replaced as well. so could L M N too

[vestal delta]

then tbh if you're eldritching the final island, I'd just keep the speed so you can have minimum sail time to it

[distant oxide]

To be fair I feel like I'll get another good captain to replace one of my existing before the time he adds more islands

[green eagle]

yeah same. that's why i said he can replace it if he gets a better captain roll in the future

i'm in captain limbo where lately even bandana caps are better than greens, anchors and ghosts

[distant oxide]

i'll probably just get rid of O, i have captain J for cloud discovery still

[graceful bramble]

I legit have no clue how the skulls mechanic works in Rift, can someone shed some light on it please?

[sweet pine]

O then A probably, the time you replacing T lava may add another island

[tidal sky]

just why...

[vestal delta]

finally finished all my chems, here you go

[fading cape]

cause ain't nobody got time for that

[fading cape]

Whenever an enemy with a skull dies there's a 50% chance the skull moves to another enemy and upgrades by one stage. So you have to kill and "chase" skulls and keep as many mobs alive as possible, but also keep killing for more options of skulls. So things like DK and bubo are completely useles. Because they either require all enemies to be dead to respawn, or they just kill everything in one tick.

You want SB or ES

[solemn rampart]

Quick question just in case. There is nothing I can do to speed up fractal island right? Other than either waiting or using candies while there.

[distant oxide]

cosmic candies can be used for fractal island

that's the only real way to get a big chunk, and very luck dependent

[vestal delta]

it's a shame that this doesn't actually affect "Nothing"
would be a really nice implementation for making fractal even marginally less worthless

[solemn rampart]

Those are the 5-500h ones right?

[distant oxide]

yes

[solemn rampart]

I just used all of those.

[distant oxide]

and not worth spending gems on, but if you get them free use them

[solemn rampart]

One had 125h of time.

[tidal sky]

wow very low indeed

[bold quiver]

i was checking and vman crystal spawn chance is funny as f

how much lower people with insane shrines have this? kkkkkkk

[sick sentinel]

i at least havent seen anyone with 1 in 7

but there could be?

[true obsidian]

uhm....i killed all the sand pot, now what?

[stuck shell]

wait

[true obsidian]

wow, what a fancisnating feature

[empty ridge]

Okay dumb question, what color is supposed to be showing for the triple printing ?

[manic moat]

purple

[empty ridge]

Hmm mine isn’t purple, I got doot and the relevant gods linked and all things linked in the lab

[manic moat]

blue is lab bonus, gold is bunny bonus, purple is bunny and lab bonus

[green eagle]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
speaking of captain limbo 🤢 🤮 727k for that too

[empty ridge]

Any reason as to why I’m not getting purple? I’ve had purple since I got doot and now I don’t

[frigid acorn]

did lab node actually activated ?

or else didnt linked to a god

[sick sentinel]

they have doot

as long as your lab is linked you should be good, sometimes a visual bug happens and it shows the wrong print color

[green eagle]

📯 🎺

[sick sentinel]

also gotta make sure all chars are at least div lvl 2

[green eagle]

was just about to mention that

and it's DIVINITY level 2

[frigid acorn]

best way check that is IT

[sick sentinel]

oh yeah missed a critical word there haha

yea check IT or IE ( sometimes IE doesnt account for companions you have, need to check off in companions section)

[empty ridge]

Yeah I’m 80+ div on all my characters , if it’s just a. Visual bug then that make sense. I have all nodes linked in lab

[sick sentinel]

yeah it happens all the time

[empty ridge]

Gotcha, thank you I was worried 😂

[sick sentinel]

can check your printer output if it looks right on those resources

[frigid acorn]

when will this could be done

[hybrid spindle]

so much for not sitting 12h in tower defense anymore

[brazen cliff]

Is there a schematic for cog board layouts?

[green eagle]

should i just go ahead and buy his star talent? or wait 300 more bottles for fractal unlock and then save for talent?

[sick sentinel]

Like this if you have 2 dks

all cogs focus exp % and the directionals Exp boost as well

if 1 dk just scrunched over

[brazen cliff]

Neato

I got one dk and one big cog but much better than the hot mess I've made

[past grove]

What's the better armour? Lustre or chizaor? Can make both

[brazen cliff]

[teal lynx]

U had a stroke creating that layout?

[sinful aurora]

I had a stroke seeing that layout.

[teal lynx]

Do yourself a favour and atleast surround your DK with those zen Cogs

[tidal sky]

the human mind is capable of such astonishing things indeed

[brazen cliff]

Construction and worship are by far my weakest areas. Just not that fun for me so I slack it off.

[teal lynx]

But take off 5/6 players and surround your dk with Zens. You are dragging 10 Cogs/Players and will already increase your board by 200%

[gilded salmon]

What meal should i use the 100k ladles on? Cabbage?

[sinful aurora]

Your setup is more complex by far than any of us. You're putting 10 times more effort to have worse result.

[sick sentinel]

i dont know what is best, but im going to split mine up between 10 dif meals like speed, efficiency, and so on

dumping in speed doesnt sound bad either

[manic moat]

how do you increade ladle drop once you have chowed everything? is there a super chow anywhere?

[sick sentinel]

IT has a super chow tracker too, one of the account sections

but its all efficiency and afk gains

[true obsidian]

how i can go to snake 3? i only kill 2nd snake and the portal not pop up

[manic moat]

super chows don't help much?

[sinful aurora]

Superchow doesnt increase ladles drops, just cooking speed.

It's still great dont get me wrong.

[manic moat]

have to destroy all statues

[true obsidian]

yes i destroy them all

[sick sentinel]

u right i just interpretted what they said as they wanted a tracker

[teal lynx]

U definitely missed one!

[true obsidian]

uhm, i think i should stay still right?

[manic moat]

what unlocks super chow?

[true obsidian]

with 2 horn, i'm gonna one punch them

[teal lynx]

Vman Enhancement - unlucks Super Chow

[olive sphinx]

Is this good ? W5 beginner

[sacred verge]

good for what?

[frigid acorn]

better just do some catchup

[teal lynx]

No Multikill = No good

[true obsidian]

afk gain < 150 = no good too

[olive sphinx]

Hey I said I just begun w5

[manic moat]

it's fine for where you are. just keep increasing alchemy and stamps

[teal lynx]

Pushing without multikill in W5 is not good. Probably better to do Alchemy, Stamps, Cons, Gear, Skills, Rift, Sailing etc

[granite grove]

non MKs can do up to OJ bay for exp and bubo/DK farm, after that dont go unless MK

[green eagle]

i kill them for the money, it doesn't matter as long as you get 100% and all stones

[manic moat]

who has multikill just getting into w5? they are fine right where they are, still opening up portals

[olive sphinx]

There is no way I can get up to 130m dmg in a short time

[teal lynx]

1 Month Max if you focus on earlier parts of the game. No reason to get through W5 for you atm

[olive sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-cat-reload-gif-21694493

[fast grail]

Guess it’s kinda bias since people played a lot during w4, but many people were able to multi-kill all the way through w5 on release. Alchemy is just built different.

[granite grove]

iirc you can do a bit of pushing if you are grinding for exp, but the active one has to do at least sth productive while catching up on older words and other char passively racking up exp (unless in lab or div)

[green eagle]

then you go back and play catch up cuz ❗NEWS FLASH ❗ just because you can make it to w5 does not mean you are ready to push it. if you don't have MK on a mob you ESPECIALLY should go back and fix the gaping holes that your account certainly has

[hot void]

How do I get Advil tan 2 game too hard 😩😩😩

[granite grove]

craft anvil tab 2

[teal lynx]

Why do you wanna go through W5 so bad?
There is no next World atm. Rather spend a month gathering resources instead of pushing 1 Map

[olive sphinx]

How much dmg is aquired in w4 to reach w5 ?

[green eagle]

yeah if you are pushing just to push you won't be anywhere near ready when w6 is out and be even worse off

[granite grove]

yeah no point in w5 maps atm, even if going for OJ to start DK/bubo grind, still need that alchemy and other stats up

[olive sphinx]

Levelling up charts

[green eagle]

stop thinking in damage.

[granite grove]

w5 later maps can come later

[teal lynx]

Do you have an IE you can share?
We can exactly tell you what to focus on. Even tho 100% we will all say Alchemy

[olive sphinx]

YOU JUST SAID THERE IS NO POINT IN PUSHING IF YOU DON'T HAVE MULTIKILL

[granite grove]

dmg is a part of it, theres more than that

[green eagle]

damage is NOT an account indication other than the result of ignoring earlier world's content

[granite grove]

btw focus on account overall progression, dmg will come by naturally, instead of going in just dmg only

[sinful aurora]

Unlocking w5 town is huge. You get access to 3 new skills. Thats all the bonuses you need. Now you can go finish the leftover stuff.

[olive sphinx]

I am tryna get my chart up at least to lvl 200

[granite grove]

rotate chars in and out then with div/lab links

[green eagle]

okay, spend a week or so grinding something that will take you less than a day if you go back and fix stuff now. self harm is not cool, but you do you my guy

[teal lynx]

Levels only give you a few talent points. Meanwhile you could spend your time doing stuff of earlier Worlds and increase your production by 10x (or more)

[olive sphinx]

Mmm

[teal lynx]

• there are Alchemy Bubbles that give talent points. Which you can probably upgrade for more Talent Points overall

[green eagle]

i'm sorry i'm being blunt, but i have a high suspicion that i can almost count on both hands the levels of some of your alchemy bubbles at this point, not to mention stamps and cooking

[olive sphinx]

I have it at lvl 30-45 each

[carmine hearth]

Pushing w5 is nice for afk class exp, and money

[granite grove]

cooking low level is kinda expected tbh, mine was low initially but got it high now after booking bone marrow 245

[green eagle]

pushing w5 is pointless if you can't push

[glacial venture]

DONT push w5 without mk

[teal lynx]

You have an Idleon Efficiency (IE) Account you can share?

[carmine hearth]

200 million exp is nice even if you don't clear the portal

[olive sphinx]

Wdym tho "can't push" ?

[olive sphinx]

That's my current exp/h

[green eagle]

why give yourself a hemorrhoid pushing so hard when you could eat your fiber and balance your diet? shit will just fall into place after that

[carmine hearth]

Looks like you are getting some good gains!

[olive sphinx]

1s lemme share my alchemy bubbles

[inner ravine]

any tips to farm hampters faster?

[paper sail]

ES active is the fastest source. Stack as much Damage and Drop Rate as you can, high Wormhole Portal level

[frigid acorn]

set all your chars there

[green eagle]

just share your idleon efficiency link and you'll get all the info you need to follow

[granite grove]

if you really want exp, at most do lv150-180 and do few chars at the time, while the rest works on other stuff or lab/div linked

though dont do leveling a priority, you will get lot of lvs anyway later even if you arent focusing on exp

[fallen torrent]

damn game crashing while i do alchemy even with blur on... whyyyyy

oh too much item was on the groundi guess

[sweet ravine]

So 1:70 crystal mob spawn is good or what? Anyone know what’s the lowest?

[fallen torrent]

not really

usually it run in the 1:20 for non-vman

[sick sentinel]

1/25 is the max we know rn by rashaken

[granite grove]

1/30ish for non-vman, and 1/9 for vman on best avg (with reasonably high shrine and stamps)

[inner ravine]

thats what I am doing but only getting about 12-16 an hour

[paper sail]

10/hr is what I remember when I farmed those like 5 months ago 🤷

[sick sentinel]

sounds pretty normal, how much drop rate you have

[inner ravine]

about 11.5 drop rate and highest portal is 140ish

[sick sentinel]

dmg around 50B?

[inner ravine]

100b

[last vortex]

Gaming is full share of exp

[sick sentinel]

i mean that sounds pretty normal with those stats

for some reason the specialized exp talent for warriors works with gaming, so if exp is your goal claim on them

[paper sail]

Hampters are just slow. They're 1 in 50k

[inner ravine]

yeah I guess its just playing the waiting game for now about half way there

[fallen torrent]

i afk most of my char hampster/ladle right now

[inner ravine]

one thing that sucks is the desyncs lose about 3 hours every 6-8 hours

[paper sail]

Yep. I wouldn't say you're doing anything incorrectly

[paper sail]

Monster HP bars off, item blur on?

[inner ravine]

that solves it? didn't know that

[paper sail]

Or possibly even filter the base stilt drop. All of those things will help reduce lag

[sick sentinel]

more helps than solves lol

[carmine hearth]

Filtering the base drop is the best way

[paper sail]

I just played active ES for 2 days straight and had 3 minutes of desync lol. I get whiplash every time I hear someone saying they're getting multiple hours

[inner ravine]

should work on getting this to atoms still need more points

[sick sentinel]

dont forget to try and get into atom range on an off class and with lab vial node disabled

[tacit tulip]

My game works fine if it's the active window and my monitors are turned on. If either is untrue, I lost about 30% of my game time to desync

Issue is MUCH worse on my AMD pc. the intel CPU doesn't lag despite being comparable

[inner ravine]

well turns out if already is atommable

[paper sail]

Very odd. I'm using a Ryzen 5 3600. I guess mine always is the active window, but I do turn my monitors off overnight.

[worthy steeple]

is there a pity counter for the world 4/5 card packs like the world 1-3 ones have where if you have silver+ normal and chaotic bosses you garentee the nightmare boss

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Newbie_Card_Pack

the wiki is wrong sometimes

[sick sentinel]

ngl i first heard about the pity for those packs like last week so i doubt anyone would know

[hybrid spindle]

there are pity rolls 👀

first time hearing this

I'm very surprised that's not hugely advertised somewhere

[brazen cliff]

Slightly improved I hope. 25% more Speed is swanky.

[sick sentinel]

and it just gets better as long as you try to get more exp% on your normal cogs and exp booster directionals

eventually when you have good atom income, spending that on call me bob is nutty

[hybrid spindle]

can chem influence snail?

[brazen cliff]

Is it forever exp% focused with speed being the secondary?

[willow drum]

all exp

[hybrid spindle]

then I have to say it's stupid that we don't get 3 free envelopes

[sick sentinel]

if you dont have enough exp directionals, you can temporarily use speed

[hybrid spindle]

you get excited because you unlock something new only to have to wait 3 days until you can do shit

[sick sentinel]

you can get 3 envelopes supposedly. if you have snail leveled over 100% in the imports

but that takes a long ass time to get

[hybrid spindle]

i have no idea what that means

oh I get it

[sick sentinel]

its like laarrry i got 2% chance for 3 mail

[hybrid spindle]

I see

But that still doesn't help on the first day, does it?

Because I just unlocked snail and I got 0 envelopes

[obtuse rover]

You're correct, you'll need to wait 2 or 3 days before upgrading the snail

[civic creek]

If I have the highest material bags and all of my characters around level 75 smithing (except my main smith and my vman, who are higher), is it advisable to just dump all anvil points into speed? I would buy the reset stones for each characters and put everything into speed then.

[brazen cliff]

Timegate hell.

[hybrid spindle]

That's just straight up bad design. Unlocking something just to wait days until it actually makes any difference whatsoever is terrible. Giving us 3 free envelopes just to make us feel like we actually achieved something would go a long way

[tacit tulip]

your gaming gains are now prettyt much exclusively tied to snail RNG. roll bad? No progress for you

[sick sentinel]

some into exp doesnt hurt, and you'll have to balance capacity at some point with how often you can claim

but yeah speed in anvil is the play

[tacit tulip]

I've been stuck at 10 snail for like 3 months

[civic creek]

if I only wanted to auto-claim, that happens once a day, right?

[hybrid spindle]

do you need to check in daily for snail?

[obtuse rover]

With the new nugget bonus you can sort of brute force some progress now.

[hybrid spindle]

or do they accumulate?

[sick sentinel]

if your capacity is reached by reset time then yeah

[tacit tulip]

yeah working on that now, still relying on snail not resetting tho

[hybrid spindle]

also, does the equinox nugget thing increase the max limit too, or only the lower one?

[sick sentinel]

the auto claim doesnt always work the best so i wouldnt rely on it

[paper sail]

The nugget still rolls the original range, then the Equinox increase is applied afterwards.

[hybrid spindle]

then I really have shitty luck ^^

[obtuse rover]

Snail was effectively impossible to hit max level with, the way it was released. With the atom bonus it became a frustrating but generally doable thing to improve slowly over time.

[civic creek]

oh, if it's not reached, it will only check the next day? So if I fill up in 1 day and a few minutes, I would wast a whole day of anvil production?

[tacit tulip]

still 3 months resetting at 10 tho 😛

[obtuse rover]

You will guaranteed eventually increase your nugget with the equinox bonus.

[brazen cliff]

Even worse before the atom upgrade where you could feasibly lose all of your progress. 1000% bad design.

[obtuse rover]

That sounds very unusual to me, you must have exceedingly poor luck.

[hidden sphinx]

What’s a good xp multi to get from lvl 400-500 on a decent amount of time?

[sick sentinel]

i think if it fills after your reset, but its your first time logging into a character after reset it works. its a very convoluted upgrade ngl

[obtuse rover]

It was just peak W5 design, where every single thing is gated by time AND RNG

[hybrid spindle]

Yes, I'm just very surprised that a 320k range + like 50 nugget draws gets me a maximum multi of 80k

[paper sail]

I'd say 50x at least

[hidden sphinx]

I was worried someone was gunna say that

Back to bubo I guess

[brazen cliff]

w5 do be like that too

[paper sail]

Depends on the class of course, but like taking SB from 485 to 500 took almost 4 days active

That felt obnoxious to me

[hidden sphinx]

I feel like sb should be easier than es

[obtuse rover]

It's a heavily-weighted RNG.
If your max is 320k baseline, then it is literally a less than 1 in 1 million chance to hit that max roll.

Getting an 80k roll in 50 nugget draws is actually very good luck.

[hidden sphinx]

What’s your multi?

[hybrid spindle]

1 in a million? 👀 what kind of a messed up rng system is that?

[paper sail]

62, and I double 5star Moonmoon card

[hidden sphinx]

Did you not max plunderous mobs?

[sick sentinel]

max plunder for sure

[paper sail]

I did

[obtuse rover]

It's weighted RNG, where higher rolls are exponentially less likely.

But since the new equinox bonus dropped, your rolls will keep getting a larger and larger multiplier until you eventually get a new high-score.

[green eagle]

if you have the nugget bonus maxed doesn't it basically guarantee a new high nugget after 17 rolls?

[hidden sphinx]

That is obnoxious then

[green eagle]

or am i not thinking correctly

[hidden sphinx]

Imma probs end up getting to bubo lvl 650 before I reach 50+ class multi

[paper sail]

If your minimum is 300, it is about 21 nuggets to get your minimum up to 1000

[hybrid spindle]

why would anyone ever think such a mechanic is a good idea when you already have a hardcap that you have to increase 👀

[obtuse rover]

Lava thinks gambling is fun and W5 largely relies on both time-gating and RNG. I agree that it feels bad.

The new atom bonus for snail and equinox bonus for nugget at least make it more likely to achieve meaningful progress over time.

[indigo grove]

darn. hit another wall. it would take me 22.2538722 days to reach next set of monsters.

[paper sail]

[obtuse rover]

You may likely do better going back to previous worlds to work on things, then.

[slender sandal]

the answer is always "time for more alchemy"

[indigo grove]

yeah thats im gonna do, have ignored so much on previous worlds.

i mean my pusher is still wearing this for god sake

[knotty urchin]

💀

[teal lynx]

3.59x dr

[hybrid spindle]

at least your armor is better than mine ^^

[hidden sphinx]

Armour shmarmour

It’s all about the account bonuses

[paper sail]

3.67x class exp

[indigo grove]

and best part is that only this pusher dude has actual gear for them. other chars just have practically leftovers but they currently sit in nothing.

[paper sail]

Sounds like you spent more time sharing that image and responses than it would have taken to fix it

[fast grail]

Armor is merely a crutch, looks like an alch issues

[indigo grove]

i am fixing it as we are speaking.

what, do you think i would leave my char in horrible state.

[hybrid spindle]

well...one of my chars is an exhibitionist, so he's running around with shoes and hat only. Can't blame me though if he doesn't want any clothes

[paper sail]

You left them in that state this long..

[proven halo]

Dude needs Adam’s Leaf

[hybrid spindle]

no, he needs a trenchcoat

[proven halo]

🕵🏻‍♂️

[green eagle]

i need to make my bubo some perfect slime shoes and rings, thanks for the reminder although idk if the stat loss will override the money bonuses lol

[paper sail]

I have to imagine the Goo shoes and rings are worse than Magma / Opals these days

They're only 5% money

[green eagle]

any time now, i'm feelin it

[paper sail]

I just saw a nugget about half mine

[green eagle]

well if i have to get half of my original nugget i'm a ways off

it is 384k for now

[paper sail]

Sitting at 511k myself. My minimums are around 7500, but I saw a 260k

Chonky lad, but not the big chungus I need

But my minimums were only around 5k when I hit that 511k so 🤷

Funny because that would have roughly been a 30.5k nugget pre-equinox, which would not have been an upgrade, just a disappointment

[obtuse rover]

My current nugget is already over my base-value maximum. Definitely a fan of the new equinox bonus.

[paper sail]

Same

[green eagle]

[hot void]

How do I get avail tab 2 game too hard😩😩😩

[fervent yew]

why stack so many chemical plants?

[green eagle]

what exactly does this do? lowers the amount ladles i'll need?

[frigid acorn]

its a task

[green eagle]

because lava is sadistic

[granite grove]

craft anvil tab 2, duh

[paper sail]

More or less, sure. It reduces the total number of meals needed for a single level up, which would need less ladles

[hot void]

Thanks dude

[untold lintel]

https://gyazo.com/4ac041693b171f9f1bce34a7f250be3e is this alright?

[obtuse rover]

Not directly.
It decreases the required number of that food needed to upgrade the meal level.

[signal osprey]

190 soon

[obtuse rover]

At maximum stacks it gives ~96% cost reduction for 1 level of 1 meal (after stacking 14 random event kills)

[green eagle]

ah then i'll probably skip that bonus for a bit then, plates are all at 50 now so i'll just wait until i'm on the 60 grinds

[paper sail]

I put 3 points in. That's nearly 50% off every 3 days

[green eagle]

need a good killroy run obviously

[paper sail]

Felt like a good point for me

[left fossil]

Need so many killroy runs before I can complete that, still need 16 runs to get the first new killroy upgrade xD

[green eagle]

makes sense

[green eagle]

why 16? am i missing something?

[left fossil]

you need X runs to unlock the killroy upgrades

[paper sail]

I assume, like the original bonuses, they only become available after completing a certain total number of Killroy runs

[left fossil]

I just did so little that the 4th still requires 16 runs before I can select it

oh lol got to 729 as well with dk xD

[signal osprey]

What are the new maps?

[sleek ermine]

What did people use their 100k laddles on?

[paper sail]

Warrior - Poops and Snelbies

I'm about to try my Snelbies

[signal osprey]

Hmm DK on snelbies could be promising

[heavy moth]

yea someone did 1900 yesterday

[paper sail]

930 with the bad DK on poops

[obtuse rover]

Ideally cook something different in all 10 kitchens

[sleek ermine]

good idea

[left fossil]

lvl 15 on time -.- think I got ~560 orso at poop

[paper sail]

I'm not too concerned either way. Already at the final Dream cloud

[left fossil]

is there an "optimal" route for those cloud upgrades?

[paper sail]

looks like I'm going to get around 1400 on snelbies

[sleek ermine]

Good bye

[paper sail]

I have some invincible snelbies that won't die that is wrecking auto

[exotic saffron]

Hey guys, any tips on what should I improve next? Currently doing eclipse skulls on w5 https://ricsardix.idleonefficiency.com/

[paper sail]

Your stamps make me sad

[fast grail]

It will not. This gear has not been updated since like the first month of w4 release. Stats% will pretty much always be better

[exotic saffron]

Why? Are they that bad? I thought they were... Well... OK? Not good but... Ok

[tacit tulip]

hold on -clicks-

[green eagle]

completely forgot about htat

[signal osprey]

Stamps are never good. Always get more

[tacit tulip]

always need more stamps but I can't in good conscience judge yours 😄

actually nevermind get 🤏

[paper sail]

I don't understand why you are working on eclipsing w5

When you haven't eclipsed anything else

Why do the slowest, worst thing first

[left fossil]

Somehow Dmg or TD seem the only useful ones atm.

[paper sail]

I'm almost to 11k and will still get pinchyd

[tacit tulip]

ok yeah wtf on the death note

especially those gmush kills

[obtuse rover]

Nugget bonus is nice if you're interested in boosting gaming gains

[fast grail]

That Gmush kills makes me sad

[signal osprey]

Gmush

[tacit tulip]

cooking has a lot of easy gains too

[indigo grove]

does that not show what companions you have gotten to other people?

[left fossil]

Hmm feels so rng how long it will be really usefull.

[signal osprey]

Its useful very quickly

[obtuse rover]

It's always useful because it will always lead to a larger nugget eventually.

[signal osprey]

I upgraded my nugget 3 times in about 5 hours of maxing it

[tacit tulip]

Companion release divided the community. IE guy almost quit. Instead, he doesn't show companions on public profiles so he doesn't encourage spending

[indigo grove]

speaking of companions, i picked my last common companion today 🙂 so i wont be punished when i get in the future the t5 treat.

[paper sail]

Honestly, samples are what I would say. You have.. nothing? in range of hourly clicks for Alchemy

[exotic saffron]

I'm doing the mimic's teeth... Was actually eclipsing stuff to improve v-man dmg to then do a decent run and sample the remaining stuff

[paper sail]

I mean that's fine but do the easier Eclipses first O.o

[indigo grove]

not sure why lava decided to make companions so that the higher tier treat= higher chance to get higher tier companion instead of higher chance to get companion which you don't already own.

it just leads in the future when companion trading is implemented that some poor bloke wants to give king doot for common one because they physically cant get common one.

[exotic saffron]

I'm eclipsing on average every 5 days (1m kills per character). In 8/9 days my blood berserker will also join the ranks and further increasing the speed

[paper sail]

That's insanely slow.

[fast grail]

5 days per eclipse is horrible

[paper sail]

I guarantee you get more kills at Gmush than at PurgStalker or Moltis

Yet they both reward the same 5% damage buff

[obtuse rover]

It was probably marginally tougher to program what you're suggesting.

[fast grail]

Even more so if it’s like all your chars

[frigid acorn]

heal no 😂

[signal osprey]

180 smithing was enough

[indigo grove]

yeah. i wonder what kind of spaghetti is idleon at if this takes 45 minutes to do. he already show cased one where player is 2x bigger.

[paper sail]

Someone missed the joke :c

[obtuse rover]

Idleon is programmed in a lego-block style. It's not actually lines of code, it's like drag-and-drop.

[granite grove]

prob 15min for each doubling size joke

so x2 x2 x2 x2

[fast grail]

Eclipsing a single mob shouldn’t really take more than 1-2 days max with all chars. If it takes more than that, you have other things to work on aside from eclipse.

[exotic saffron]

Alright fair enough. So what would you recommend for me to do right now?

[paper sail]

Stamps, alchemy, meals, samples to support them

[gaunt shale]

(not mine, but I want to post it badly)

[fast grail]

Start printing for atoms, stop leveling up buff boi talent bubble and instead level up something actually useful, like anything that will help with sampling. Max the boron atom upgrade

Can eclipse w1 and get that Gmush number up, kinda low money

[gaunt shale]

and when gmush is up, you can farm money with bubu which means more alchemy again

[paper sail]

(and stamps)

@signal osprey - Did you actually make a push to 5k or did you get sidetracked? I'm almost there, think I can finish in maybe 2-3 days

[signal osprey]

I'm a a little side tracked but I still have a few characters afk at wurms. Will maybe be a week or so if I had to guess

[fair karma]

Hi all. I am early-mid w5 and sitting at around 10M dmg. Wondering what or when the BIG damage boost is gonna happen, like, going to the 100M or higher dmg. Is like something of a huge boost ahead or is it just a slow grind all the way? 🤣 What is in your opinion what has given you the most dmg? Thanks!!

[proud pumice]

it's a mix of a lot of things that increase your damage, mostly increasing stamps, alchemy, cooking and sailing

[paper sail]

^

[tropic kiln]

Do I focus on maxing vials after I am done with statues

[dapper prism]

Sailing will help a bunch from things like Fury Articat and Crystal Steak that are big jumps.
Small jumps are other artifacts, Divinity blessings and a lot of backtracking. Same as Alchemy and Stamps

[signal osprey]

Sad

[dapper prism]

what rota?

[signal osprey]

Dk poop/snelbies

[dapper prism]

Ah still the same

[rough stirrup]

what classes to dupe are recommended, and why?(after getting all x 1)

[dapper prism]

2x DK/ES/SB.

[signal osprey]

Got 6 holy pearl drops from the new upgrade though

[fair karma]

I see thanks a lot!

[fading cape]

How many respawn levels you have?

[signal osprey]

1

[fading cape]

lvl 500 here you come

[paper sail]

DK > BB because of Construction, mainly. Construction drives the bulk of your Worship progress, a lot of your trapping progress, ALL of your shrines progress. All that a 2nd BB can ever offer is 2x cooking speed, which just isn't needed these days. It made sense back in W4 before W5 was released, but isn't really a good choice any longer because we have received insane amounts of cooking speed buffs since W5 came out.

SB > BM because all of BM's Trapping and Breeding talents are account wide. A second SB offers superior Bug printing and AFK kills.

ES > Bubo because ES allows a 2nd divinity link, higher AFK kills, and more worship charge. A second Bubo offers diddly because the Lab skill is easy to eclipse and the main benefits of Bubo are active, and we can't active 2 characters at once

[dapper prism]

DK = Construction
ES = Good MK
SB = Just because you want to end up with 3:3:3 of the classes. and BM doesnt do anything.

[dapper prism]

Oh damn you got a nice post prepped xD

[paper sail]

I had just written that out for a guildie the other day lol

[dapper prism]

For DK, a small thing thats possible to add is extra gaming procss

[tall horizon]

What's your time/respawn at?

[dapper prism]

For more chems -> to push for +10 atom (very late late) xD

[indigo grove]

gme where the hell do you want these parts still!

[signal osprey]

100/1

[dapper prism]

2nd platform, leftish is clearly a gap

[tall horizon]

Damn and still couldn't hit 2k?

[rough stirrup]

do 2 dk skills stack? or is one supposed to simply stay on construction skills?

[tall horizon]

Oof.. was really hoping that shelbie map would be good enough

[signal osprey]

I think I could if I had a 3rd attempt. Towards the end I came up with a strat that I feel was an improvement over auto

[tall horizon]

Ima put statues in middle of the mid/bottom and camp pyramid area

Hope it works, I'm a bit higher in seconds though

[cerulean hemlock]

We all love that chart

[obtuse rover]

The account-wide skills like that do not stack. The better of the 2 is used (there are a couple bugs that may or may not be fixed where the order of the characters' creation matters but I've only seen that with vman and maybe one aspect of BB)

[cerulean hemlock]

That chart is so annoying it's posted at least once a day

[fast grail]

I mean, it’s a true chart

[cerulean hemlock]

Nah, it's not entirely complete now

[paper sail]

Speaking of Killroy bonuses, I saw mention that there are soft caps on the non-time bonuses? Anyone know?

[gaunt shale]

its not annoying, its a blessing from the gods themself

[cerulean hemlock]

pretty sure besides the talent one there isn't

[cerulean hemlock]

Let me correct myself: So annoying to people who actually want help

I, for one, have never been sent that chart

so I have no say in that matter ;P

[paper sail]

At what level?

[obtuse rover]

Got some tips for you, if you're looking to improve

[signal osprey]

My kill rate seemed to go up when I got in a rythm with this approach. Statues on red arrows and then stand on blue arrow and just throw boomerang without auto or moving. Place the statue on the bottom first

[cerulean hemlock]

no, I'm sticking to meals and alchemy and sailing

I'm not clicking on that

[indigo grove]

welcome to my gamepay. aka power point presentation. also where the hell is that gap.

[signal osprey]

If I had a 3rd try to do that from the start I think I might have gotten it

[tall horizon]

Hmmm makes sense, got full coverage

[cerulean hemlock]

Far left middle pltform

[fading cape]

The chart is a blessing if you understand what the other person means by "It's always alchemy".
Like if you know, "Look, focusing on alchemy bubbles that are Tier S will cause you to take steps that require doing enough things incrementally that your overall gain is going to skyrocket by focusing these bubbles"
The problem is that half the time when people get the chart, it's only accompanied with, "Be better" which isn't helpful

[dapper prism]

Dont insta kill them

[cerulean hemlock]

the latter is incredibly true

[dapper prism]

This looks like a gap
https://i.imgur.com/8bwVohV.png

[cerulean hemlock]

Tbf, alchemy also means vials

[cerulean hemlock]

Dude the very FAR left side

not that supposed gap of the tail and the coin

[dapper prism]

what?

I wrote 2nd row left side earlier

and if they are on auto and mobs dont get there, then thats on them

[fading cape]

Did you try dropping some tails from your inventory onto ledges that the worms don't normally spawn on?

[last vortex]

So when im this early on what should I focus on mostly?

[paper sail]

Capacity and value

[dapper prism]

To be honest, i havnt increased much alchemy stuff let alone alchemyt that increases dmg. My quick slap is under 200 and my base stat bubbles are like 500-700. Still possible and manage to reach about ~20-25t dmg.

[cerulean hemlock]

My base bubbles are 50, so I'm getting there

[fading cape]

well that just makes me feelsbad

[paper sail]

Same

[fast grail]

Trickz is simply built different sometimes

[green eagle]

please pinchy my 9004 level stamps 🥺

[paper sail]

bet

idk how Trickz does itt, honestly

[indigo grove]

neat. it went to 1.55k and i couldn't click the npc bubble fast enough. off to next quest step

[fading cape]

I pinchy you, but I'm only at 8400

[dapper prism]

Just gotta... git gud 👀

[fading cape]

yeah for real. I'm at 1400 base stat bubble levels, and feel like I've focused hard on stuff. I'm at less than 1b sampling on oak and only 4T damage.

[paper sail]

Every time I hear a number from you, mine is bigger, yet you have 2-3x my damage

[indigo grove]

i will say it again, i hope someday you could filter coins. cause i hate playing idleon, the powerpoint.

[dapper prism]

I can show you a secret

[paper sail]

I guess depending on class, meme setup or not

[fading cape]

I'll take it one further, coins auto-looted as it's own setting separate from auto loot pack

[dapper prism]

Idk if you have this:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[paper sail]

Yes, full eclipse skulls

[fading cape]

Gotta say Trickz, you missed a golden opportunity there

absolutely could have linked to the alchemy chart png

[signal osprey]

Should have shown doot

[paper sail]

I was expecting the alchemy chart

[dapper prism]

I was tempted, to rescale it and screenshot it so it wouldnt be noticeable, and post it, but it was a lie.

Also thought about doot xD

[fading cape]

I mean doot do be where I'm lacking

[signal osprey]

Just gotta click bubbles harder

[fading cape]

wonder if one of the next pet rotations is, "3d printer fires half it's value every 30 minutes instead"

[paper sail]

He already said his bubbles are 1/5th of mine, it isn't working

[fast grail]

What do chars even do now after eclipse? About to finish w5 myself and then gonna candy w2-4

[fading cape]

so we can switch to half hour clicks instead of hourly clicks

[dapper prism]

Why not candy w2-4 first then w5. since the w2-4 eclipses would have helped get w5 faster that cant be candied.

[green eagle]

this proves how much i neglected killroy

[fast grail]

Not enough, every minute, 1/60

[signal osprey]

Mine could be better too. I only started waking him up every week fairly recently. Should have started a long time ago

[fast grail]

Probably, but was too lazy to actually spend candy. Maybe could have helped with 1 more damage tier, but all chars at at minimum like 20T anyways, couldn’t give too many more kills

[paper sail]

Last 2 weeks are the first times I've used killroy horn

[hybrid spindle]

next pet rotation better never arrive because I'm not sure the game can survive something as broken as doot again

[signal osprey]

I started a few weeks ago and wish I started months ago

Gems are easy to farm but holy pearls are not

[sleek ermine]

There was something that scaled with level 30 meals, what was it?

[hybrid spindle]

when you reach w5, you'll wish you never started at all ^^

[fading cape]

same. I used one to get the killroy kill for equinox on that one bubble.

[paper sail]

atom collider

[indigo grove]

pet rotation? is it at the companions?

[hybrid spindle]

yes, that's why I meant

[fading cape]

yeah. I said pet but meant companion

[worthy helm]

People will complain they didn't get doot

[hybrid spindle]

And I just followed suit ^^

[indigo grove]

oh dear lord. im gonna say rip to peeps who got t5 treats since no commons once ye there unless lava changes that to make missing commons guaranteed and then no more commons until ye missing commons again.

[hybrid spindle]

I doubt that will be the major problem ^^

[worthy helm]

I cannot fathom something as broken as doot

Unless it's paired with something absurd like all prayers active no downsides

[hybrid spindle]

sounds like a lava move

[worthy helm]

True

[green eagle]

this is how far behind i am compared to you lol