lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[wispy needle]

pc

[sacred verge]

which of the buffs do you need tho?

[dapper prism]

Top right corner, left of the search area

[pearl cedar]

At least to 1300, getting to 1400 is uh difficult, and requires you to have bought pretty much everything

[dapper prism]

They are all nice, no reason not to get them tbh

[wispy needle]

thank yall

[elfin idol]

All of them, i couldnt get to last island without them

[tropic kiln]

so quenchie ?

[pearl cedar]

Bubble bonuses for slab are good

[sacred verge]

sail speed, div and bits kinda not very usefull

i mean it just sounds like tons of work for not superusefull stuff

idk

[prisma drift]

Bits useful now

[tacit tulip]

that sailing buff is literally a 10x multiplier to your speed lol

[prisma drift]

Gotta get that last superbit

[dapper prism]

had to check myself, yes

[elfin idol]

All really useful for leveling your god blessings too

[tropic kiln]

thanks

[sacred verge]

yeah but you get alot of it without super much effort

[pearl cedar]

Still about 100b multi from last superbit

[sacred verge]

its not like its 0 slab vs max

[prisma drift]

Just wait till the 100B nuggets start rolling in

[elfin idol]

fair its probs 1000 to 1300 comparison

[tacit tulip]

idk what to tell you dude, incremential idle games may not be for you if you don't like min-maxing at all 😄

[elfin idol]

Also the bubbles that use slab

[sacred verge]

what i ment was that it just sounds a bit much work for not supermuch benefits 🙂 hehe

idk

[tacit tulip]

fair point on the slab/alchemy

[sacred verge]

i didnt say im not gonna do slab

[dapper prism]

honestly, if someone said 400k nugget with 25 snail is ~4months.

Then even "just" a 23 snail would make that 16 months,
then again nugget will easily go above 400k lets say 4m+ would make it 6 weeks. or 8m nugget 3 weeks. Not too hard anymore with the upgrades over time

[pearl cedar]

Gonna take so long lol. I thought it would be quicker. But once you get a 10mil nugget, having to build up that much nugget is going to take forever. Combined with the fact you're definitely gonna hit 10.1m

[prisma drift]

True

[sacred verge]

it was more an opinion / question. afterall minmaxin is more about spendinding time wise

[elfin idol]

Considering itll take a day to get loads of salb progress v however many days grnding other endgame things its benefital in effort ratio

[sacred verge]

youre not min maxing if u waste time 😄

[sly horizon]

Easiest ways to boost sailing gains, early on in world 5? ? :x I feel like my treasure loot is giving me poop returns. Best way to crank it up fast?

[dapper prism]

Push islands with fast boat, once u unlock the trader sell off higher tier resources for gold to upgrade your first ships

[pearl cedar]

Aint no way. At 22 snail and 170k nugget I was getting about 5b a day maybe. 20x (3 snail and 2.5x nugget) that is 100b a day. That's still a factor of 90k away from 9q. Need your nugget to be about 36 bil lol

Though to do it in 4 months you would only need like 250m nugget which is still probably a ways a way

[dapper prism]

idk, that's just what someone said that someone mathed out 🤷

[cerulean heart]

Is there a way to check my max possible nugget? Ie and toolbox shows its wrong

[dapper prism]

they are right?

[elfin idol]

You cant track equinox buff atm so cant see your max possible with that

[pearl cedar]

You can guesstimate what your max is with equinox

[tacit tulip]

Assuming you have equinox there's no easy way to guess, but if not the ie guess is correct

[dapper prism]

But now its based on the equinox % increase

[cerulean heart]

How would that estimation proccess look like? I have to count my smallnuggets from my next upgrade?

[pearl cedar]

Just guess what your minimum roll is based off the nuggets you're pulling. Divide that by your actual minimum and times that by your actual maximum. Shouls give a rough estimate

[knotty urchin]

god I hope you king doot havers realise how good you have it

[dapper prism]

Equinox % times amount of nuggets you pull = % increase on your current max ig.

[tacit tulip]

Minimum roll is 1x shovel %, so if your shovel % is 200 and you're getting regular 1800 rolls, you're currently on about a +800% bonus

[obtuse rover]

There's not much utility in really knowing.
Just keep digging until you inevitably hit an upgrade (with equinox)

[cerulean heart]

Alright, thanks guys!

[tacit tulip]

On the note of shovel - thanks to equinox I've turned no kitsune for the first time in...probably over 6 months

My god do the plants spawn fast

[sly elk]

lol my max nuggest says 300k but im still under 10k, is that bad luck or is it lying to me

[tacit tulip]

No that's unfortuantely right

[nimble palm]

Got 4 upgrades already, 20k>40k>55k>80k>110k. Equinox is sweet

[tacit tulip]

it's a bit like winning the lottery. Max roll is possible but not probable

99.999% of the time you'll roll low then one day a massive nugget will pop out and jump scare you

[barren otter]

so close yet so far off...

[dapper prism]

31k pre equi and then
32k, 75k, 113k (in a day) then 183k and now dry for a few days but i am rolling a ton of 15-30ks so an upgrade will come soon, just hope it isnt a sub 200k

[tacit tulip]

equinox is really as strong as it seems. Alongside the TD buff it's the MVP of this update

[nimble palm]

amazing

[tacit tulip]

The cooking one would have been amazing if it wasn't tied to random events

[nimble palm]

I haven't gotten a good high roll yet on its own too

[dapper prism]

cooking one has been decent so far for me

[tacit tulip]

I'm a lazy shit with cooking and all my meals are sub 1 hour

I aint getting nothing from that for now 😄

[solid lantern]

are you guys leveling up nugget upgrade for equanox beyond 1?

or is it the next thing after alchemy

[elfin idol]

Im not overnighting bubo so alchemy was after nug for me

[dapper prism]

My cheapest cooking ones are now around 4k and quickly scales to 10k ladles.
with my 3.2k (or esentially ~5k) ladles a day. halving that cost every 2-3 days is pretty nice

[solid lantern]

oh, you aren't leveling up the dr?

[pearl cedar]

You can cheese it a bit

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/H0v1k7s.png

DR ftw

[tacit tulip]

Eventually, but I'm not in a rush

[solid lantern]

hmmm how so?

[nimble palm]

I went through all meals today using 10 laddles each for about 1k laddles. Got from 2b to 23b vman buff to cooking

[dapper prism]

Alchemy only really helps if you actually plan on doing alchemy soon

[elfin idol]

im torn between that and saving the 200k

[dapper prism]

you mean 100k?

[pearl cedar]

Build up nugget multi a lot with lvl 1, then when you're close to your current max nugget level it up the rest of the way. It will retroactively apply the other 5%. Guaranteeing you to pull a large nugget

[tacit tulip]

my vman buff is fine I'm just saving 100k for the ladle challenge

[elfin idol]

why is 200k ladles in my head

[nimble palm]

oh

[dapper prism]

Now im curious what mine is at, but in the midle of a cc 😄

[nimble palm]

tbh, reward for 100k is meh

[tacit tulip]

The reward for 100k is another slot

[nimble palm]

so I just have 1 bb on it

[elfin idol]

Well still i know I should use ladels till they cost 1k or so then save up

[sly horizon]

So... Let me get this straight... Every time I claim afk gains... Even if they're like... 1 minute... I get an hour of a random thing... So can I like... Just cycle through my guys every 1 minute... Getting an hour of a random thing every time???...

[dapper prism]

No..

[elfin idol]

no its rounded visually

[nimble palm]

its 10 levels to scims

[sly horizon]

poop...

[sick sentinel]

the text rounds up to an hour no matter what

[dapper prism]

That would literally destroy the whole game xD

[tacit tulip]

it DISPLAYS 1h butonly gives you the actual amount you afk'd

[quiet pewter]

its "lava rounded"

[tacit tulip]

my point is it unlocks more things for me to do haha

[sly horizon]

[elfin idol]

but can you do those things after it in the list?

[nimble palm]

I am in the same position as you

[tacit tulip]

some of them yeah

[nimble palm]

same clouds

tbh, looking at next clouds, I can't do anymore

[elfin idol]

and me, wonder how many have these 5

[quiet pewter]

its worth doing things just for the sake of doing them, its a game

[nimble palm]

I can only do laddles, 1b sample and vial maybe, and then stuck again

but these 3 will take a month

[sly horizon]

learning about the 1 hour rounding is similar feelings to finding out someone stole my puppy| ya'll just stole my puppy

[tacit tulip]

my goal is to reach the red frisbee task for the +40% fill rate

[nimble palm]

You are not happy with your 340 per hour fill?

lol

[tacit tulip]

no >:[

[elfin idol]

I feel like ive had that one but have the same 5 clouds as you

[dapper prism]

Believing that 2min claims would constantly net 1h procs is like believing in Santa.

[solid lantern]

😵‍💫

[nimble palm]

tbh, by the time I get 100k laddles, I would have all cloud buffs unlocked

[tacit tulip]

that or they played idle skilling...

[dapper prism]

but IS actually has a buff that increases afk gain value, idleon doesnt

[tacit tulip]

not yet anyway

100k ladles unlocks me 121 TD which I can do (if I'm more patient)
Clearing that will unlock me 200 greenstacks, which I'm not doing anytime soon
Clearing one more challenge (probably skulls, maybe sample) unlocks me frisbee challenge which gets me the better rates

[dapper prism]

"1h candy is now worth 17h, but when doing something else its worth 5h, or sometimes 1h"

[barren otter]

please do not put that in idleon...

[tacit tulip]

skulls/frisbees are the last equinox rate buffs so at that point I can just chill and unlock stuff as I get it

[barren otter]

yea im capped at 418

cant finish any of the 5 dreams i have left

[nimble palm]

tbh, if it only unlocks equinox rate, I probably wouldn't bother with it

[autumn wasp]

how many ladles do you get per day?

[sly horizon]

@dapper prism Santa is real... 😢

[dapper prism]

~5k ladles (with PO)

[tacit tulip]

prolly about 5k

[nimble palm]

on 2 bb?

[dapper prism]

1

[autumn wasp]

what lvl is ur ladle stamp?

[nimble palm]

thats like 4x my laddles

you superchowed?

[dapper prism]

theres a ladle stamp?

[barren otter]

i did 100k laddles in 6 days

with 9 chars afking it

[sly horizon]

-crosses fingers- I'm trying to do rift again... this is my like... 20th attempt to do the first rift challenge :'<

[autumn wasp]

the cooking 1

[nimble palm]

Good luck, and you are probably doing it wrong

[tacit tulip]

that's a pretty safe bet at any stage of the game

[sly horizon]

250/500 :< Using my DK with amped move speed...

[nimble palm]

tried using bubo?

[sly horizon]

Yeah... I thought about it... Bubo makes more sense... But my bubo is donkey butt...

[tacit tulip]

bubo is fastest but DK should be perfectly workable for that challenge

[elfin idol]

youre in w5 early, bubo is your main now

[dapper prism]

didnt u complain about rift 1 like a few days back.. and i gave u some notes

[sly horizon]

Yeah... I'm still working on the catching up stuff

[nimble palm]

i heard someone say on dk to just spam boomerang

and you get a ton of kills

[sly horizon]

I'm way stronger than a few days ago... My damage went from 80m to 100m since then, I'm faster and wearing better gear... My weapon is holding me back, but I JUST started to get my trapping straight today... Just gotta get to those damn penguins...

[nimble palm]

with 100m you should be at rift 30-35

[sacred verge]

how does this add up to ex pool? is it a good buff?

[tacit tulip]

additive

(so no)

[sacred verge]

so it sucks then

[tacit tulip]

fine if you're gr9nding excp and can oneshot

[dapper prism]

additive like always, so 1.77x Class xp then affected by class multi from new bundle

[wind umbra]

might as well have it on if u can one shot the mobs anyways

[safe harness]

i think i did rift 1 at 10 million with ES without even paying attention, try that class

[sacred verge]

i guess theres no reason to not use it anyway

might as well

[dapper prism]

"if you 1 shot"

[sacred verge]

ofc

[dapper prism]

but bigger prio could also be DR and money prayer

[nimble palm]

ye, I think the hardest parts of rift were basically waiting for afk kills

[sly horizon]

Alright, one more attempt with DK if he fails, I'm maining Bubo or ES XD

[sacred verge]

got em all on

[tacit tulip]

Having a strong DK isa a good thing - but yeah the other two might be better for you

[safe harness]

you wont be able to use 1 class for entire rift

[tacit tulip]

don't be afraid to walk away from the game for 15 mins. You might find your first 5 mins goes slower while you're setting up

[safe harness]

so might as well start using all the main classes

[dapper prism]

A watched pot doesn't boil.

[tacit tulip]

it's kinda like using CC. First one will be bad cause the map isn't setup yet

[elfin idol]

I think i forced that rift level by clicking mobs while autoing

[dapper prism]

and if you don't watch it, the house burns down

[sly horizon]

I just feel like DK Shockwave on hit % is busted... Mine is like 70%... and when I watch him active, it looks like he gets a shockwave like 15-20% of the time

[nimble palm]

he only gets shockwave on normal hits

[sly horizon]

his RNG is supposed to be Shrek, and I'm getting Donkey

[elfin idol]

so close to being done (fuck the vial tho)

[bitter finch]

I feel my drop rate is low for w5 (6.75 on my dk with all cards (working on 5 starring mr brightside still)). What other sources am i forgetting? Alchemy droprate seems slow to increase, but is that the only decent option for bulk drop rate?

[elfin idol]

Calculate Drop Rate With All Sources. Pictures provided.
File -> Make a copy
Hover on Icon to see its description and possible bonuses.
Result might be off by small amounts, depends on obols because of how they're implemented.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17eOkmPXqzJRha7TeuPhPTpblTkFL3ZKejpUPSV-sN9U/edit?usp=sharing

Youll be missing loads

biggest increase is probably Pop obols personal and family

[crystal raven]

is there a spreadsheet for carry cap

[tawdry steeple]

hmm..with a 30k grind time bubble it might be viable to just leave your BB/BM on wurms and gain levels through afk(if you're willing to sacirifice the ladles

[dapper prism]

sacrifice ladles 👀

[tawdry steeple]

well atleast bm

[bitter finch]

So do people keep skilling obols, or is it just more worthwhile to use droprate basically constantly? My dk is sitting on full mining obols and something in me is gonna be annoyed if i fragment them all, but storage space is tight.

[bright current]

Store them on another character that u dont rly use obols on

[pearl cedar]

Skilling obols only need to be kept up to square as well

[paper nova]

Obols question:

1. Reroll 1obol stats as bronze...
2. combine obol with a second bronze.
3. use 2 silver to make gold. (no stat rerrolls)

This right?

[pearl cedar]

Early game, reroll bronze for +1 misc, put in left slot combine, keep silver rerolled in first slot and combine

[tired gorge]

i have lots of platunm obduls and not even at world 5 but im at world 3

[pearl cedar]

Latelate game reroll obols for max stats+misc

Or don't cause it sucks

[tawdry steeple]

just had a 669k nugget, my max is 677k

[clear quartz]

rip

[dapper prism]

thats not bad

a 680k would be worse xD

[tawdry steeple]

thats why i about had a heart attack

[clear quartz]

i wish there was a low res mode or whatever, bubo gives me endless lag

to be fair its entirely because i walked away and didnt filter items, but takes so much longer to fix than same issue on ES or dk

[dapper prism]

Next bar, 7h 45min 😦
https://i.imgur.com/xGg1Jvd.png

[tawdry steeple]

must be nice...Iv'e failed vial every day since release now....

[paper nova]

oph i forgot to check my next bar...

[dapper prism]

You spam dropping?

Also, failed 4th vial since 😦

[tawdry steeple]

no...im suppose to??

[dapper prism]

Had to use a gold stopwatch on first day

[dapper prism]

Yes..

[tawdry steeple]

ffffs

[paper nova]

how do you spam drop? Just like a full inven of the item real fast?

[dapper prism]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[solid lantern]

you drop all invent/16 and it gives more chances iirc cause lava coding + the epic roll thing

[dapper prism]

can do more than 15 stacks

[gritty spruce]

Just curious, has there been any talks about making sailing a little less of a headache to manage? T_T

[sick sentinel]

its been made a little better lol, who knows in future

[clear quartz]

i need MOAR munny, and moar GT

[old crane]

Bubo ftw

[clear quartz]

guess i need to kill more gmush

and yeah bubolicious

[paper nova]

spam dropped first vial from mirror world and got it first try. love that lol

[naive shard]

best place to farm statues chart anywhere?

[true anchor]

ice rings are better than serr rex rings right?

[sick sentinel]

ideally you would just use rex for skilling

and opal for fighting

[nimble palm]

yes, if you don't have opals

[true anchor]

Ye

I’m way off opals rn

Still don’t have stats maxed

[sick sentinel]

use whatever gives you better stats then

[clear quartz]

how expensive are the last 4 excogia pieces? guessing like 7k total?

[dapper prism]

Opals for snapshot sample 😄

there's a gemshop calc
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U3zxMn-tcQE504aObTmsKKnBycYp-Fud_Kl6vmj0poM/edit#gid=333563771

[clear quartz]

ooo danke

[unreal cape]

anyone have the link for the google sheets of tower defense

[fading plover]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml?pli=1

[unreal cape]

ty good looks

[worn sonnet]

I got the first 2 equinox day 1 of update and failed every day since

Shouldn't have been so smug about it

I've been karmad

[clear quartz]

4750, so i need moar, rip

[pearl cedar]

The age of guide sheet for TD is over. The time of scouring through 3 days of endgame chats for TD has come

[dapper prism]

i still like these:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
except cans, do kraken top floor.

Still needs to be more updated though

[sturdy geyser]

how long does it take on average to unlock the second divine after getting world 5? Would it make sense to try and somehow get my wizard to ES to boost divine exp first? or just put everyone in divine?

[spark scaffold]

been stuck on this stupid bear god for days

[cunning summit]

is mantra good or do i keep using chakra ?

[vestal delta]

the more people on mantra the better it is
if all 10x are on mantra, then it's 10x exp per hour BUT you don't get to claim double exp gains

[dapper prism]

!mantra

[obtuse orbit]

Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.

In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.

(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)

[dapper prism]

mantra sucks early on though and should not be used.

Just read pin.

[vestal delta]

I recall reading that deposit-all from inventory is bugged w/onyx, but if I manually deposit statues from inventory is that fine?

[sturdy geyser]

Would you prioritize getting an ES for exp gains before sending everyone on divinity? I made it to w5 without ever giving him elite class and it might take a while to get him there without candies (which i dont have because of w5 push). Or do i just ignore it since divinity points are more important than exp anyways?

[cunning summit]

okay thanks

[vestal delta]

[unreal cape]

i have a question so rn i have a mage that basically does all the soul collecting and none of my other characters are wearing the skull should i make skulls for them too would that make a difference?

[vestal delta]

I'd strongly recommend make skulls for everyone, and claim souls on them until they're all at 100 worship

otherwise you'll cripple your rift bonus for worship for a long time

[unreal cape]

cus wht ive been doing is just using the mage ability for souls and doing tht

[vestal delta]

you should really only use mage ability for souls after everyone is level 100

[unreal forum]

having skulls on the other people will increase their charge capacity and speed as well

[unreal cape]

gotcha ty

[tawdry steeple]

that was dk on snelbies...

[sick sentinel]

do you have a lot of timer upgrades

[tawdry steeple]

120 and lvl 6 respawn

[sick sentinel]

gotcha i split my points between timer/skulls and get around 1300-1400

[tawdry steeple]

if i had put my first disciple in a better spot I mightve gotten it

[sick sentinel]

need bubo ):

want to see how much respawn ramps up too

[heavy moth]

bubo on snelbie would have been easy 2k

[knotty urchin]

does this not work at all

[patent hatch]

I think I’ve gotten 2.5k with BC on good maps

[heavy moth]

just saw i wasted a good 20 point on talent point rubbon RIP

[vagrant mountain]

💀

[unreal forum]

ask him again and he will make it 30

[vagrant mountain]

[unreal cape]

my first 5 digits :0

[tiny laurel]

you needa hit the alchemy cauldron

[nimble yarrow]

is printer sample size the same as printer sample rate?

[tiny laurel]

yes

[vestal delta]

ooo nugget upgrade

[paper sail]

One hell of a nugget

[vestal delta]

908k (not 26 billion)

[unreal forum]

found a mountain

[heavy moth]

pretty sure i saw some people with 400 % afk gains rate where the missing 30

[paper sail]

Do you have Doot? If not, you're missing 9x Goat minor links

[heavy moth]

i do have doot

[tiny laurel]

skill issue

[paper sail]

You just suck then 🤷 No skill, gg

[heavy moth]

thats what im thinking yea

no other choice to trash that acocunt

[paper sail]

I'd say check out the AFK guide thing down in #1084911530417606656 . Too many sources to guess

[heavy moth]

was it meme afk at 400 % tho cause i know im running with a mob respawn keychain so that a 10% right there

[vestal delta]

are these things worth doing hourlies for? or better spent on something else

[untold saffron]

Any tips for 121 W5 TD? Failed a few times on 120

[unreal forum]

more krakens

[paper sail]

I'm trying now with 6 party, 6 krakens

[untold saffron]

How are you speccing your party

[paper sail]

all speed 🤷

fuck idk

maybe I drop one of the 2 stormcallers for a 7th kraken

[pearl cedar]

Yes if you can print hourly

[vestal delta]

is the bonus worth it though in favour of some of the other ore bubbles?

[pearl cedar]

How many slots is taking you to hourly print?

[fast grail]

not too many ore bubbles anyways, like what else of higher tier is there? Larry and servapurple?

[vestal delta]

just 1 slot, but there's a lot of nice ores to print

basically I'm just wondering if it's even a decent bubble to start upgrading

[pearl cedar]

Yes

If you want good samples anyways

[paper sail]

At least to 90%, yes

[vestal delta]

so my mining power on pickaxe is 82, and the bubble is 50% improvement on that -> 123 mining power... vs. I'm getting like 700 mining power from statues alone

I'll do it, but I'm curious if it really makes that big of a difference for prints?

[signal osprey]

Print every ore that has a bubble

[fast grail]

Its a bubble thats free to push anyways. Not too many ores to print anyways.

(I say this but am having to currently print copper on my BM for hourly clicks since i have 3 warriors)

[pearl cedar]

Copper, iron, gold, plat, dem, and void. Lol only 6 slots

[signal osprey]

Just have 4 warriors. Easy

[fast grail]

Starting that shaquracy pushing

[signal osprey]

I print all 6 and can still double print skelefish for money bubble

[pearl cedar]

Truuue I wish I had I only had 2 archers and 4 warriors

[signal osprey]

My next goal is to make sure BM can do hourly oak to get another chopping slot

[pearl cedar]

Bm doing Oak and copper

I just have a secret

[fast grail]

best i could get my BM

[pearl cedar]

Called not hourly clicking

How much eff could you scrounge up?

[fast grail]

Need to stop hourly clicking at some point myself and get atoms

[signal osprey]

That means oak isnt looking to good. It'll be even smaller than copper on a BM

[fast grail]

uhhh, i wanna say like 50b? honestly cant remember, lemme see if i took ss

[pearl cedar]

Dont worry camp is a noob you easily got this

He only pushes fmj

[paper sail]

I got my FMJ over 1k

[signal osprey]

i'm just a midgamer though

[pearl cedar]

True true

[paper sail]

felt

[pearl cedar]

Gonna finish these 2 tonight

[fast grail]

hey, FMJ is doing great, although qs has finally passed it

[paper sail]

Is there a rule of thumb on tower upgrade costs for 5 levels? Is it 20x what the first upgrade costs?

[signal osprey]

I should probably know that but honestly I have no clue lol

I've been winging it all week

[paper sail]

I always hate thinking "Yeah, I could do that" and then being way off

Starting to memorize a couple.. Party 15->20 is 20kish. Stormcaller 15->20 is 100kish.

[fading plover]

anyone going through equinox content know if the bonus from gem pack is worth getting, idk if a faster bar fill rate is worthwhile

[signal osprey]

Do it for the ring

[paper sail]

Chat Ring is what you're buying the bundle for

[pearl cedar]

Yeah my qs is at 6400. Hoping going to 10k will be enough to push vman to 100t dmg,

[paper sail]

Equinox is over in 3-4 months. Chat ring is forever

(until he introduces even more broken ones in the future)

[pearl cedar]

Equinox not even that broken just a little broken

[fading plover]

that does look like a pretty solid ring, and better than a lot of the other pack equipments from what i can tell

[paper sail]

It is the only Chat Ring my account has

[heavy moth]

you re missing on that op misc

[fading plover]

i often say i'm missing more honk in my game

[vagrant mountain]

viva la honk

[pearl cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/di-goose-honk-honk-angry-honk-honk-gif-17648939470482040238

[paper sail]

I think we're doing it

Hell yeah

1 SC and 7 Krakens was the winning combo

[fading plover]

what kind of upgrade stone would i want to use on something as awesome as the equinox ring

[paper sail]

Probably WIS

[untold saffron]

All speed party? And kraken/Poison spec?

[untold saffron]

Nothing until W8

[paper sail]

Yep, 6x AAAA party. 7x BAA Krakens. 3x BAA poisons

[fluid tinsel]

All statues can be onyx'd right, boat and battleaxe too?

[fading plover]

maybe worth waiting till w6 perhaps

[paper sail]

I doubt it

[heavy moth]

isnt that ring only upgradable with premium stone ?

[paper sail]

That's why I doubt we see a change in w6, but maybe.

[heavy moth]

yea doubt that too never change those since begining of the game

[fading plover]

oh i didn't know that

[cerulean hemlock]

I don't feel so good today.

idk why, I just feel blurry

[paper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/reee-puddle-of-mudd-nirvana-about-a-girl-free-gif-17113394

[cerulean hemlock]

I legit have no idea

I probably need to go see a therapist.

[heavy moth]

i missed my shot at a great SC of CC time i think i saw 518K

[paper sail]

For the dream, I just have to reach 121 right? Not have 121 as best wave?

[vagrant mountain]

is that puddle of mudd?

[paper sail]

They said Blurry

How could I not

[paper sail]

Turns out 130 Citric TD is fucking easy so nvm

[cerulean hemlock]

Emotionally Blurry.

I really don't know why

[vagrant mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/alex-mack-melt-morph-liquid-woman-liquid-gif-20859065

[paper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/moana-delete-maui-delete-this-gif-15101621

[cerulean hemlock]

that was funny.

[vagrant mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/reboot-yeah-whatever-dont-care-gif-7294684

[cerulean hemlock]

Please no.

[paper sail]

Reboot was a weird show

I'm a weird dude and still thought it was too weird 5 me

[cerulean hemlock]

me too.

[vagrant mountain]

definitely gave me nightmares as a kid

[paper sail]

How about all the 5heads in Code Lyoko?

https://tenor.com/view/code-lyoko-odd-sissi-point-jim-gif-17869176

[solid lantern]

was going to ask, am I missing something on my dk?
I feel like I'm not getting as much statues as I should be?

I'm 12.4 DR, 1/48 crystal spawn chance

choc chip and 26x kills at beans

[paper sail]

your DR and crystal are both kinda low

[fathom lagoon]

Omg this just brought out a deep rooted memory

[vestal delta]

wait only 260-something kills per orb?

[paper sail]

I assumed they listed 26x multikill, not knowing it doesn't matter in the slightest

[solid lantern]

ah

[vestal delta]

oh that makes sense
how many kills per orb are you getting? and what level is your orb talent at?

[solid lantern]

nah orb im 271/217

dont have ancient fury relic, just elder

[vestal delta]

should drop it down to 267

[paper sail]

🫡 Goodbye, cruel world

[vestal delta]

267 is the benchmark to not get partial progress reset on the next orb

assuming you have the cooldown reduction from post office

[solid lantern]

yeah maxed box and all

all pets etc

[vestal delta]

yeah so drop your orb level by 4

[vagrant mountain]

holy shit i forgot about this show tis one was not too bad but those kids were anatomical and physical anomolies

[vestal delta]

most importantly though, how many kills per orb are you averaging?

[solid lantern]

about 450+ at beans

[vestal delta]

that's pretty low
ohhh the boomerang level is huge for beans

having maxed mongorang will probably up your kills per orb by like 20%

[paper sail]

Do you have the Vman Eclipse Enhancement at 225 for longer Knight duration too?

[solid lantern]

I do

knight is i think 50 seconds

[vestal delta]

try respeccing and tossing a random book at mongorang + taking orb to 267
I think it'll help a decent amount

[solid lantern]

👍 ty

cause yeah, I see people say they doing like 15k power stats in like a couple hours and im just confused

[paper sail]

While respeccing, go for that 240 Symbols and take points out of the poopy Skulls talent

[solid lantern]

symbol?

[paper sail]

And then I guess also make sure you're double Crystal cards with lab chips, the rest are Drop Rate cards. Full drop rate obols in Personal and Family. Wear Midas prayer. There is a crappy little 5% drop rate star sign to add too.

[vestal delta]

tab 4, talent 15

[paper sail]

bottom right talent in tab4

[pearl cedar]

Probably has a lot to do with your DR and Crystal spawn chance

[solid lantern]

ah

[solid lantern]

pain, dont have the lab chips outside of choco

but yeah, got dr obal in family and personal + midas equiped

[pearl cedar]

Ah no chips will make a good difference

[paper sail]

Yep

[solid lantern]

lab chips havnt been coming around T-T

[pearl cedar]

What's your card setup?

And crystal spawn chance?

[paper sail]

I sit at 20x DR farming Beans though, so you have a lot of growth in that area too. Some are reaching 21x

[solid lantern]

thought mk affected but found out 5mins ago it didnt

[pearl cedar]

Ah yeah those probably your two biggest factors. You have a lot of DR missing, assuming you're f2p with no chips, not sure what realistic max is for f2p but id guess around 18-19x for crystal farming?

[solid lantern]

wasn't f2p, but im not buying any more gems

[pearl cedar]

Fair enough

[solid lantern]

had to correct, you either are or arent f2p 😂

[cerulean hemlock]

I'm f2p, no auto loot.

[solid lantern]

I most definately am not 😂

[burnt sail]

Does this not crash you anymore? I thought it used to.

[vestal delta]

dunno, I only whitescreen every couple days

[pearl cedar]

This game not worth $5 to you?

[cerulean hemlock]

All I have is a Rammy Plush.

It's enough.

[pearl cedar]

Nah pretty sure that was fixed like 6 months ago

[burnt sail]

Right on, thanks.

[pearl cedar]

Though I have had still had a couple crashes on SB with homing arrow so who knows

[burnt sail]

There will always be something with this game I guess, lol.

[paper sail]

How do you do, fellow midgamers?

[cerulean hemlock]

This makes actual sense

[obtuse rover]

Decanting water overnight feels pretty good.

[burnt sail]

In a sort of similar position. A little behind. I really need to sample the Equinox resources to finish the vials.

[cerulean hemlock]

All besides one look easy

[sick sentinel]

It indirectly affects it though the star talent at least, but its not so much

[pearl cedar]

Super midgamer here

[sick sentinel]

The mk money star talent

[paper sail]

They're asking about statue drops

Not money

[sick sentinel]

Oh my b lol

[solid lantern]

who even farms money on a dk

[sick sentinel]

Reading hard

U should be

[signal osprey]

DK gets tons of money lol

[sick sentinel]

Dk gets better money noe

[solid lantern]

bubo active 🤷‍♂️

[pearl cedar]

Dk best money farmer

[solid lantern]

passive income

[vestal delta]

mfw farms money on DK

[solid lantern]

• alch

[paper sail]

I mean I still put on Jawbreaker, why not

[solid lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-gif-23183493

alright alright

[vestal delta]

i think 90% of my money came from DK

[dapper prism]

Same

[vestal delta]

this is actually genius
immediately better gaming experience

[paper sail]

It can be incredibly frustrating though, be careful

If you spread out the Imports TOO much, plants just start growing on top of each other

[cerulean hemlock]

i know right?

[cerulean hemlock]

true

[signal osprey]

Sounds like a skill issue

[obtuse rover]

Speaking of

[cerulean hemlock]

but it's better than smushing them at the sides.

[old ginkgo]

[dapper prism]

actually snail is irrelevant as stuff can spawn on it

unless it was fixed at some point

[cerulean hemlock]

True

[cerulean hemlock]

Maybe, no idea

[signal osprey]

I dont think I've ever had a plant spawn on my snail

[dapper prism]

Also the amount of times i've told ppl to set up their gaming like that is too damn high 👀

[paper sail]

If anything, Cactus is irrelevant lol

[gusty glade]

anyone got a worship set-up for the first one?

[vestal delta]

[signal osprey]

Cactus is OP for shell leveling

[paper sail]

I can't tell you the last time I've seen my cactus bump anything from t2 -> t3. I see plenty of t1 -> t2 though

[signal osprey]

Shell is just based on total evolutions so T1 to T2 is fine

[sick sentinel]

Your cactuses are dumb, i recommend refunding them

[paper sail]

My shell is

[old ginkgo]

My shell is only lvl 4

[signal osprey]

Probably because you're talking shit about the cactus smh

Put some respect on the name

[paper sail]

The sad part is I do still properly click all cactus :c

I was just a Rock hater for way too long

[dapper prism]

Now that i focus more on maximizing chems i do waste some cacti to clear spots before using water, but keep the nicely place cactus that's usually centered

[paper sail]

I zero out anything that isn't a Chem now after the Equinox patch

Don't need do stinky Cactus preventing a Chem spawn

[obtuse iron]

ahh! what those plants doing on top of each other - avert your eyes

[solid lantern]

I always feel like a piece of me is ripped away when I accidentally click on a chem

[obtuse rover]

Trynna get some hybrid plants in my logbook

[dapper prism]

Dont worry, click the tree, it's alright..
https://i.imgur.com/rk8fzBZ.png

[cerulean hemlock]

And t7's

[paper sail]

That's why I made all my imports hug

Too many other plants trying to intermingle with the chems

[obtuse rover]

Would chems not just be far better than cactus could ever be?

[vestal delta]

[signal osprey]

For getting big evo's yeah

[cerulean hemlock]

Well if you surround it with t6's you're set

[sick sentinel]

L's left and right, sry buddy not your day huh

[signal osprey]

But for shell theyre actually kinda similar because for some reason time skips dont count all the evolutions that you get on the shell

[obtuse rover]

Why? It'll still act like a pretty unimpressive amount of time has passed within the radius of the cactus.

[paper sail]

Cactus seems to suffer the same fate that Squire Refinery talent did

[cerulean hemlock]

🤷 It's better than other plants

[vestal delta]

the point has been made

[obtuse rover]

Agreed, just never worth holding onto in lieu of fishing for more chems, I guess

[signal osprey]

Squire talent is still not bad especially if you dont have doot

[fervent brook]

Does rock effect nugget gain? Or is it there to help chem growth -> nugget gain

[signal osprey]

2 DK's can shave off like 25% or so on page 2 salts

[paper sail]

Max rank for me is like 35 minutes of progress per day

Tab2 = 2 hours, or 4 hours for 2x Squire, is still somewhat okay. I do still click the talent, but I don't drop whatever I'm doing the second they come off cooldown

[vestal delta]

yeah it's mostly only for the chem chains

[obtuse rover]

The latter

[fervent brook]

Is there a optimal chem level before harvesting?

[vestal delta]

25h

[obtuse rover]

You want T5 ideally

[vestal delta]

whatever this one is

[fervent brook]

Thought so since that completely resets log.

It will be good to farm chems for the achievement while nugget farming anyway. Glad we can brute force this now unlike before.

[stuck pasture]

Is there still an automated way to review IE profiles? I’m relatively happy with my progress, just unsure if I’ve neglected anything obvious.

https://daslama69.idleonefficiency.com

[obtuse rover]

I think the person who made the automated review website was banned.

[stuck pasture]

Ah thought so, I was struggling to find it

[solid lantern]

tools and splicers

[signal osprey]

Yeah he got banned and then changed the bot to a runescape gold flipping tool and the mods left it pinned for almost a week lol

[solid lantern]

some coppers tools etc, some shop splicers

[solid jolt]

Do you guys have any guides for breeding

[solid lantern]

actually a lot of toons have really low skills

eg your barb lvl 6 mining/5 woodcutting

[stuck pasture]

Tools are max level for the skills, guess I can start there with pearls. Thanks mate

[solid lantern]

i mean dont even need to peal them, just use some candy and you'll jump up

[obtuse iron]

Dont forget to put your guys on TranQi if they are not sitting on the altar.

[cerulean hemlock]

alt I presume?

[obtuse iron]

yeah

[stuck pasture]

Does it matter if you have Doot?

[vagrant mountain]

this is the only game that I know of where the people who made the guides also use them to spite the creator of the game lol

[solid lantern]

I mean they do it for free and get basically shit thrown at them 🤷‍♂️

[vagrant mountain]

yeah, lava is definitely the worst i've seen in terms of player relations

[obtuse rover]

Most games don't incite so much anger from the most dedicated members of the community, making the community resources.

[vagrant mountain]

thats why i dont spend anymore money on this game xD

[solid lantern]

like it doesnt help that this is an indie game w/ 1 developer

[obtuse iron]

@stuck pasture also if you have some divinity pearls use em on your cooking and all the stuff below 50 else they will basically rot in your inventory

[obtuse rover]

He also refuses to accept any help though, which eventually becomes a flaw of his that can be criticized.

[stuck pasture]

Pearls? Roger

[solid lantern]

yep

[gaunt shale]

smart choise, but what about doot, think about all that endgame progress you missing out on if you dont get him

[vestal delta]

• post office pretty severely neglected
• cooking severely neglected
• your divinity alignments mostly doing nothing since everyone is off the rock
• div, worship, woodcutting, smithing, and mining could all easily get to 1000 total level
• towers are low level
• deathnote could be blackskulled, but at the very least you should red skull everything

[fervent brook]

The damage equinox upgrade is pretty decent. Pretty good choice after nugget, TD, and Killroy upgrades.

[vagrant mountain]

ive bought most things worth buying already tbh xD

[solid lantern]

good point, does doot allow you to get div/lab xp when not on altar?

since it puts you in the lab/always connected

[vestal delta]

no

[solid lantern]

bleh

trash game

lemmie refund my doot

[sick sentinel]

I'll take it

[gaunt shale]

yeh, but do you have dooot ?

[vagrant mountain]

yes

[sick sentinel]

Can trade you a motli

[obtuse rover]

Goat and Bear don't work together because goat requires you to physically be in the tube and bear gives you a different type of connection to the lab (as shown by the unique icon in the mainframe)

[gaunt shale]

i dont 😦

[solid lantern]

i got enough of those bastards

[vagrant mountain]

the final endgame is being put on lava's backburner while he works on idleon 2

[cerulean hemlock]

Also, claim boss keys and you squire refinery

[solid lantern]

squire refinery in 2023 pepelaugh

just get refinery proc

[late minnow]

This is my 7th character and I'm really struggling trying to kill chaotic kruk since i'm a voidwalker... Any tips?

[sick sentinel]

Love me some omni refinery procs

[gaunt shale]

moar dmg

[sick sentinel]

Check pins for a fight example, next is more dmg

[late minnow]

wow why didn't i think of that

[knotty urchin]

At what point should my BB be in divinity? I want to zow/chow but I dont want him to get behind. Any advice would be amazing. I have up to rabbit god unlocked

[late minnow]

i guess i'd have to give way more info for specific help

[pearl cedar]

Quickslap for easy vman dmg

[late minnow]

to be fair

[late minnow]

wot is

[solid lantern]

if anything, you can push your toons to get 1 for all

[vestal delta]

continuing:

• BB needs to finish superchows for cooking to be of any use
• maestro should be on exp traps farming your highest exp critters until 100
• other toons should also be on exp (or at least on higher level critters) until you have maxed trap boxes on each of them
• your easy hourly alchemy bubbles are non-existent (i.e., the first 2 bubbles and whatever else you can easily print 1B samples for)

[stuck pasture]

Thanks mate! Appreciated.
I’m working on red skulls at the moment, working through W3.
Does the always on divinity altar negate that requirement though? Shouldn’t you choose the highest one?

[sick sentinel]

How many onyx statues fo you have btw if you habe started those

[knotty urchin]

my toons?

[pearl cedar]

Quickslap is the 6th agi bubble

[vestal delta]

no, you have to be in lab or altar for that to work
TranQi is the only one that works off the rock/lab

[late minnow]

Oh, vman wants to scale base dmg?

[sick sentinel]

Sweet yeah try putting 4 speed pots in your food and lvl quick slap

[pearl cedar]

Everything wants to scale base dmg.

[obtuse iron]

You should try and get divinity on all char until you get TranQi - frees you up from having to sit on the altar. Its really the only way to advance Divinty initially.

[solid lantern]

^

[knotty urchin]

is that the level 40 one? so does he sit in lab until 40 and then zow/chow with tranqi?

[pearl cedar]

But vman dmg sources suck, and his speed goes hard. So quick slap + speed goes hard

[solid lantern]

all for one/one for all also gives best xp + levels all toons at same time

[cerulean hemlock]

Gn dudes, Imma head off to bead

[knotty urchin]

sleep well

[cerulean hemlock]

Tysm

I remember helping you

[knotty urchin]

everyone here helped me at this point tbh

but yeah ur here 24/7

[obtuse iron]

you do Lab + Div (Div EXP) with Arctis alignment until you get Equinox up or a Doot - yeah Tranqui i think is L40

[knotty urchin]

okay thanks

[cerulean hemlock]

Mhmm

[stuck pasture]

Thanks a tonne mate! Appreciate the tips

[late minnow]

hmmm since my bubble is only level 51, the speed doesn't really do much of anything. Each food slot gives me about 1m topend dmg and i'm at 156m rn

[sick sentinel]

Gotcha guess its too early for quick slap to rly kick in

[late minnow]

it's so annoying that all my other characters kill chaos kruk in under 30s but with the same level of gear this stupid fucker can't do anything

[sick sentinel]

Eclipse skulls in rift are good for dmg too

[vestal delta]

quickslap has exponential scaling, so you'll have to invest a bit for it to be useful... but for example

[obtuse iron]

Quick Slap is an absolute god tier Alchemy Bubble, just trust that you need to push it

no matter what charecter

[late minnow]

aaaaaaaaaah ok i'll throw some coconuts in the printer

[solid lantern]

huh?

[sick sentinel]

Prob not in atom range yet

[obtuse iron]

My vman can get 1385% movement so realize thats where all his future damage comes from

[vestal delta]

and mine isn't even high leveled... there's people on ridiculous numbers hitting trillions and trillions of damage

[knotty urchin]

which one is better for sampling on hunter? as in fighting materials

[late minnow]

isn't angel wings like 10% more afk gain?

[solid lantern]

angel is 10% afk vs 4% afk + 20% damage?

[knotty urchin]

11% but yea

[sick sentinel]

Purp

[knotty urchin]

okk

[pearl cedar]

As can be seen between these 2

[white cipher]

how do i link to a second god with the skill

[solid lantern]

the only thing that beats angel i think is the valentine wings

[vestal delta]

^^^ yeah literally 10x my damage by being a few levels higher

[late minnow]

uuuuuuuuuuuugh i hate getting samples

[signal osprey]

Theres a whole lot of anti bob propaganda goin on in here smh

[white cipher]

level of the skill?

[pearl cedar]

Bob is useless now haven't you heard

[sick sentinel]

Ye

[white cipher]

o

[signal osprey]

Damage has been useless forever

[white cipher]

ok let me try

[pearl cedar]

Lava released a bob nerf before a quickslap nerf

[sick sentinel]

0 doesnt count tho haha

So snake at 10

[pearl cedar]

No no you see now you have to farm 1 more colo to make up for your low mk tier

[worthy helm]

Best spots for cranium cooking?

[sick sentinel]

Wurms, ojs, flombs

[solid lantern]

oj's for just cc, wurms for everything else

[late minnow]

is there a spreadsheet or graph showing the scaling on maestro's coin toss based on the money you have?

[worthy helm]

I suffer from low dmg

[signal osprey]

All I'm hearing is more forge gains

[worthy helm]

So whats the best spot on like w3

[white cipher]

yeah linked to harriept thanks

[worthy helm]

Or w4

[stuck pasture]

Should I bother putting anyone on div to get god ranks then or is it not worth it

[white cipher]

was between the printing gains or the snake gains

[obtuse iron]

Cans > Flombeige > Wurms

[sick sentinel]

Flombs, cans

[worthy helm]

Alr thx

[vestal delta]

no it's practically worthless, just TranQi for levels if you have all the gods unlocked

[late minnow]

are citringes not the best? huh...

[white cipher]

yeah u just need 1000 levels for rift

[obtuse iron]

Citringe for DK yea

[late minnow]

i assumed it was best for cooking too but yeah i guess you just want the most mobs possible now that I think about it

assuming your damage from poison is enough

[obtuse iron]

yeah easy damage is push your Quick Slap to 1000 then wear all of the Speed Potions you can

Like, instant damage

[late minnow]

alright that'll be my next goal tyty that's actually huge information

i assume it'll help a ton for getting my last 3 rifts done too

[vestal delta]

at 1000 it just breaks even with damage potions...more is better

[obtuse iron]

well yeah depends on your other scaling damage gains but, the most direct way to damage is he amount of base damage QS can give, then each small increment of multiplier is exponential

[vestal delta]

hence, more is better

[obtuse iron]

is just extra broken how much it scales off of speed

the other versions of it are no where close to the scaling

[late minnow]

yeah it'll be nice for my other characters because i'm juuuuust on the cusp of being able to finish rift 34 but i'm a bit too slow to clear entire screen

[sick sentinel]

If you can get 350% movespeed that is the visual cap. Dmg still scales past that but char movement doesnt

[obtuse iron]

also if you need more speed, best to go to Beans in W1 and active farm crystals, they drop loads of Speed Statues

so really its the best way to get early damage no matter where you are at in the game

[late minnow]

oh that's good to know. It's also funny that you say that, I happen to be at 343% so i was in the zone already xD

[undone steeple]

anyone know whats the best way to farm dungeon cards?

and also what affects it?

[late minnow]

oh trust me i've been non stop farming statues lately. I'm getting close to my second quest completion for the second batch of 10k of those statues

[undone steeple]

like keychains, passive skills, etc?

[oak lagoon]

iirc, just "dungeon card drop" from dungeon cards =/

[swift wharf]

Probably cards

[obtuse iron]

got to use the card drop cards from the dungeon section - other cards dont work in there

[vagrant mountain]

its actually the feasty statues that make you go zoom

[signal osprey]

Feasty

[late minnow]

@undone steeple

[swift wharf]

I think normal card drop affects dungeon but not the other way around

[obtuse iron]

they drop both

[late minnow]

screw you discord and your awful new way you show multiple images

[clear quartz]

hmmm should i jsut cardify mr bs or farm it like a pleb

[vagrant mountain]

tomorrow

[signal osprey]

They drop both yet you mention the one that sucks the most lol

[undone steeple]

do you happen to know if passives like affect drop chance as well like maestro stuff?

[clear quartz]

unsure if since i only have 5 left if i wanna cardify anything that isnt a bawss

[vagrant mountain]

im cardifying annoying resources

[late minnow]

sorry not sure, but I assume that only card % affects the card drops

[signal osprey]

I kinda want to do some more at some point too but I have a resample to do sometime soon so its nothing but beans until I finally get around to it

[clear quartz]

oh yeah, those are gonna suck

[vagrant mountain]

im only pushing 128 mason because i refuse to leave my guild for a maxed one

[signal osprey]

Then I'll do 128 just because I can

[vagrant mountain]

heh

[signal osprey]

And after that 132 just to flex

[vagrant mountain]

[signal osprey]

And yes it'll be all on DK

All my homies hate ES

[vestal delta]

my guild causes me pain every time I look at the single non-maxed bonus

there's enough points for it

[undone steeple]

you mean stuff like this might help?

[late minnow]

absolutely

[pearl cedar]

But quicker you get shards the sooner you go back to beans

[signal osprey]

Its about the journey not the destination

[undone steeple]

so prob the maestro stuff as well

[vagrant mountain]

as a guild leader, who is missing a just a little bit of carry cap for multitool, it pains me too

[pearl cedar]

Drop rate, afk, card drop all affect cards

[late minnow]

also doing it in a full party will mean more spawns in frog dungeon

[signal osprey]

If I have to sell my soul to ES in order to get back to beans is it even worth it anymore? I dont think so

[late minnow]

I wouldn't use maestro to do dungeons

[late minnow]

just use DK imo

[pearl cedar]

Vman pretty good at dungeons

I like him for w2 dungeon at least

[late minnow]

he said maestro so I assume he doesn't have vman

and I assume he's doing frogs

[signal osprey]

Even maestro is good

[pearl cedar]

Mman also good at dungeons

[signal osprey]

He was the goat for dungeons pre W5

[pearl cedar]

Mman good at w1 dungeon too

[signal osprey]

You used him in every world

[obtuse iron]

yeah he used to be the best

[late minnow]

mman feels like dooooooooooooogshit in frog dungeon

[vagrant mountain]

make mman great again

[signal osprey]

Sounds like a skill issue

[pearl cedar]

The trick is to not take off your gloves

[late minnow]

DK i can pmuch afk solo 4th boss with 3 mins left

[obtuse iron]

once you get beefy, you can start using ES - does a pretty good job at terrorizing the map

[pearl cedar]

I was really hoping vman would do that but meh. Maybe the next iteration

[signal osprey]

Mman solos the boss in no time too. Thats why he was used lol

[vagrant mountain]

vman was kind of a game changer but just passive buffs ig

[pearl cedar]

For sure I just wish it was a pure mman buff

Almost done

[vagrant mountain]

[clear quartz]

assuming the afk rate is remotely accurate this will take... forever

[late minnow]

god bless the salt fishing area

[signal osprey]

Less than almost done

[late minnow]

oh that reminds me, is the new fishing area in equinox better than salt area?

[pearl cedar]

Then like 2 weeks of catching

[pearl cedar]

If you could do more than 2 minutes at a time Maybe

[late minnow]

oh right you can't use candy duh

[obtuse iron]

no its a nerfed afk zone - cant really afk there

[undone steeple]

for the purpose of just farming cards: why not?

[obtuse iron]

you can sample there but, not really afk there

[undone steeple]

its like 40% card drop cahcne from the passive no?

[pearl cedar]

Anybody know next time last island mat is coming up for sale?

[late minnow]

ok guess that got automodded for some reason

fuck me i guess

[vagrant mountain]

apparently not for the next 6 months

[clear quartz]

14261 now in however many minutes, so the 1 card per 2 hours is only relevant to afk, i guess maybe that wont be too horrendous

[pearl cedar]

At least I'll have a lot by then lmao

[signal osprey]

The dates on the IT predictor arent correct

All of those trades only span a couple of weeks not months

[vagrant mountain]

that makes sense

[signal osprey]

But still yeah gonna be a few weeks at least

All bubble 1's broke 10k today

Up to 500 liquid per level lol

[clear quartz]

my bubbles still

think im gonna just push to 110% for larryy and then go back to getting 90s on my wisdudes

[obtuse iron]

10k bubble 1s? Really?

Math around being able to do that is a little sus

[signal osprey]

10k was reached months ago by other people lol

[vestal delta]

it's about a year of hourly clicks

[obtuse iron]

exactly

not missing a single click

[signal osprey]

Show me that math

[vestal delta]

well, 193 days of missing 0 clicks
about a year of missing like 40% of clicks

[obtuse iron]

after your printing 1B resources per hour, W5 hasnt even been out for a year

so i mean thats like basically not missing a single day of doing it perfect

[knotty urchin]

can anyone explain why my first es gets 33 xp per hour and my second es 47 xp per hour, any other div things I should be doing?
https://xbagheera.idleonefficiency.com/
help would be greatly appreciated

[vestal delta]

don't forget vman prints, which also get you hourly clicks but can't really be mathed for

[signal osprey]

And omni

[vestal delta]

^^^

[signal osprey]

You realize you get multiple hourly clicks per hour right

And I have 117% larry

[knotty urchin]

thank u

[signal osprey]

For +3

[heavy moth]

i desagree ahah leeft were my 1rst bubble on may and now they are 5K +

[obtuse iron]

So 2.2 averaged

or whatever it is

[heavy moth]

so i did mostly 5K level in 4 months

[signal osprey]

Yeah I think you dont know what omni does

[obtuse iron]

I do

[heavy moth]

people probably even hit 15K

[vestal delta]

10,000 / 2.17 -> 4608 clicks
/ 365 -> 12.6 clicks per day to reach those numbers in a year
very "reasonably" done for the unreasonable people here

[obtuse iron]

and yes, if you are tracking all your afk gains, clicking eveyr attempt, every Brrr, every hour.. .sure it adds up but thats pretty damn sweatty

[vestal delta]

I easily get more than 12 clicks on my hourly bubbles without really trying too hard

[signal osprey]

I click 14-16 times per day on average with omni for most of that time and yes I click in between every maestro printer proc and even go refill water during it if I run out 🤷‍♂️

[vestal delta]

anyways tl;dr I don't think any of these numbers look suspicious

[heavy moth]

i mean per hours you get around 4 to 6 good click so do that 10 hours its like 50 clicks a day XD

[obtuse iron]

yeah only 12 hours a day checking the game not casting shade, just saying its pretty focused

[signal osprey]

Remote desk top works wonders

[crisp silo]

Unfortunately that is pretty data using

But it still work wonders

[signal osprey]

Good thing it only takes 30 seconds to click bubbles

[obtuse iron]

I know people use macro programs to do a lot of this stuff

its a single player game so who cares tbh

[signal osprey]

Nobody can macro high level hourly clicks

Its too liquid intensive to fully afk it unless you just plan to farm bubo all day

Not to mention every hour you swap to other characters for omni and check those procs too

[vestal delta]

casually flinging shade at the people who farm bubo all day

[signal osprey]

That would be an absurd macro

Well yeah DK is the best class

[vestal delta]

amen

[sick sentinel]

I cant lvl gt on dk tho

[signal osprey]

GT is a crutch

[sick sentinel]

[vestal delta]

I'll level GT to 5 digits when I need BM to get level 500 🫠

[signal osprey]

5 digits is a warmup

20k or bust

[sick sentinel]

Thats the plan

Just hit 10k yesterday

Its a long road

[vestal delta]

I've left GT at the good number 🔥

[obtuse iron]

the first 10k GT isnt bad

[signal osprey]

You can hit 10k over a weekend if youre already that high

[vestal delta]

but that would be time spent away from greenstacking w2 statues 🥺

[signal osprey]

Who hurt you

[crisp silo]

At what point is it worth it to greenstack statues

[pearl cedar]

10k/2.17 =4608/24 is only 192 days anyways, but let's say 12 a day. You get on average 3 printer go brrs a day so you are at 15 clicks, then you have 6 or so omnis which gets you 1.2 clicks an hour, puts you around 5 months to get 10k bubble 1. Assuming you were starting from 0, but a lot of people had bubble 1s in the 1-3k range already

[vestal delta]

when you have nothing better to do than to hit 200 green stacks I suppose

[signal osprey]

Can confirm I have played this game way too much for many months now

[obtuse iron]

yeah if you are a masochist and actually plan on getting 200 GS before W6

then starting thinking about GS things like box statues and goldric cards

and shiny critters

because thats what it would about take

[vestal delta]

at 181 now, will get to 192 by next month

[heavy moth]

only 6 omni 😮 ?

[vestal delta]

already working on it~

[pearl cedar]

Assuming no doot

[signal osprey]

Doot

[pearl cedar]

Might be more I dunno what people are doing anymore

[sick sentinel]

My free doot turned out ti be another motli

[heavy moth]

i get around 4 proc per hours and i check around 5 to 10 time a day

[sick sentinel]

Shits rigged i tell ya

[heavy moth]

thats alot of click

[crisp silo]

Yall actually check your char more than once a day?

[heavy moth]

on a day i sweat it ahah

[signal osprey]

Thats how you push your clicks. Check omnis every hour for printer procs

You can get multiple hourly clicks per hour

My record is 8

[heavy moth]

in 1 hour 😮

damnnn

[signal osprey]

Well 7 omni procs I guess on top of the normal printer cycle

[vestal delta]

if you're an absolute degenerate, can't you check your characters multiple times per hour for baby 3d prints?

like if a 10m print is enough for the click, you could do 10m cycles 😂

[signal osprey]

It doesnt work that way though

[runic token]

when does atom wizard dmg increase? I've leveled multiple towers in the past hour and it hasn't gone up in percentage yet?

[heavy moth]

like for 20m cycle trap

[signal osprey]

If you do a 30 minute claim and get 3d printer time it just pushes your next print forward by 30 minutes

[vestal delta]

ohhhhh ok gotcha

[signal osprey]

Cloud save

[dapper prism]

Make sure carpenter (orange small saw) is hit daily, needs to get to around 200ish for atom range

[clear quartz]

its usually on there, but stuff is getting tough to keep that on the lowest, dang pinions and souls and pet ones today 😦

[wanton stag]

so faster respawn is now the best killroy option right?

[dapper prism]

Most likely based on how much time lvls you have

[zealous niche]

Probably, not many people have min/maxed killroy to my knowledge

[crisp silo]

Does upgrading faster respawns give me faster respawns?

Like past lvl 1

[dapper prism]

It's probably 1% per lvl

[crisp silo]

Cause lvl 1 and 2 felt similar

[dapper prism]

Because +1s and +2s feel similar..

[crisp silo]

Damn 1% per lvl

[dapper prism]

It's just a guess

[crisp silo]

Idk maybe im tripin but lvl0 and lvl1 felt huge diff

[pearl cedar]

Only one remains

[barren otter]

2

[pearl cedar]

Trapping

[barren otter]

150 trapping when

[pearl cedar]

Like 20 years lmao

[dapper prism]

150's all is going to be one of my long term goals soon. But trapping going to slack af xD

[pearl cedar]

Mining pretty brutal. Later levels we're costing 2-300 hours per level

Catching should be done in about 2 weeks I think

[sour oasis]

This may seem like a silly question but does this buff stack each time you click it? Like could i theoretically click a similar buff every week and end up getting a 30% total damage bonus for my account?

[heavy moth]

they reset with each boss reset i think

[swift rose]

whats the highest damage class for end game?

[dapper prism]

Probably SB because of quick slap, but not really relevant since dmg becomes irrelevant

[swift rose]

just having a discussion in baby chat (w3-w4) and wanted to resolve it

[rough wasp]

im a bean lover

Wait Trickz are you farming bubo water now

[dapper prism]

Calculating my Alch + Class xp gain on bubo to see how long lvl 150 alch would take, cause buddhas 150's are tempting

[frigid patrol]

Why doesn’t my highest tier captain level up in sailing

[fallen torrent]

lv 445 with 18.31x Exp rate getting 3% on the crystal map, while i see some peeps get 10-15lvl sometime.. like what

they were at lv 415-425 so idk if its just because im 445 that it is that low

[sick sentinel]

If its goijg to closer island, the lower thee exp gain

[dapper prism]

18x xp is pretty small, small GT*

[fallen torrent]

yeah i do get that, but 10-15lvl compared to 3% i cant imagine it being that different

[dapper prism]

Active xp cards are always the biggest thing, along with card doublers, choco chip, crystal chance etc.

4x xp potions

[fallen torrent]

i mean the impact of it, and all card and potion and all were on

ieven had exp pearl on

[dapper prism]

This was my xp from the week build up:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[fallen torrent]

let me check brb

[dapper prism]

Keep in mind my BB is lowest lvl so he gets more xp

[fallen torrent]

true just saw you were 30 lv under me

that might explain why, my SB is like my 3rd highest?

[dapper prism]

Either way i wouldnt do crystal island on alts that have respawn mechanics

BB / BM / Vman are kinda the worst

[fallen torrent]

Yeah i was just testing the famous exp island. with all pot and card and all on it

i'll do it on my BB from now on

i might save a few days of em to make it worth the effort ;p

[snow light]

should i be focusing on leveling all my other skills instead of W5 stuff (mostly divinity) because i have abysmal skill levels across the board

[noble sable]

17 cook

[earnest rampart]

This is my first time seeing this tier of captain. Seems like a pretty bad bonus. Did I get a bad roll or does he level up faster than others or something like that?

[zealous niche]

Bad roll

[dapper prism]

Captain tier/looks only affects the range of a stat, they can still be very crappy and end up with only 1 stat.

The stats always scale the same, Displayed stat times captain level, so that will be 81% at lvl 9 or 90% at lvl 10. (same xp as other captains etc.)

[zealous niche]

The better tiers have better mins and maxes

But a min tier 2 can be outdone by a max tier 1

[earnest rampart]

I see. That makes sense. Thanks!

[sinful aurora]

Heck, a tier 6 can be the worst captain in history.

[cunning summit]

i feel like my sailing just stopped progressing what do i do ?

[feral hemlock]

Oh finally a bil! Also on bubo

[gentle furnace]

send your boat back to early island to get materials to upgrade your boats

[sinful aurora]

Send boats to the islands you need mats for your weakest ships. Look at potential new captains each day. Improve your ship speed with divinity bonuses (both the ones you spend resources on, and having the cat equipped on one character with big P bubble), with the yellow alch bubble for ship speed, the stamp, the cooking meal. Level up your siegebreaker for shorter trips minimum duration. Get the achievements that give extra chest slots if you havent yet. Equip golden hampters to every char (farm on active bubo, dk or sb with crystal odds). Max the p-o box.

I think this was my final edit.

[white carbon]

My xp on lowest char is 140x

[heady torrent]

What's the star sign on the sample

[granite grove]

triples with harriep link, but not doubled with lab link (unless display bug)

[heady torrent]

No like the star sign next to the amount you sampled XD

[heady torrent]

It just shows me a blue as if it was lab boosted idk

[feral hemlock]

Those are the starsigns, which i used to sample

[granite grove]

blue means lab link double but not harriep linked

whereas purple is both linked

[feral hemlock]

I have doot

[heady torrent]

Ye, but i had blue when i linked harriep and no lab

But alr

[dense kraken]

how do I got 100.000 second of alchemy using cranium cooking? any tips for equinox dream challenge?

[swift rose]

they just had a discussion about this in #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[dense kraken]

oh, omw to that channel

thanks for the info

I see, so I need to level up my respawn mob skill, and try it in wurms

[dapper prism]

Tente is more important than respawn mob skilll

[worn sonnet]

Woe is me. I have been forced to upgrade the damage equinox

[dense kraken]

that cooldown by 2 seconds skill?

[dapper prism]

yes, at talent lvl 200 it becomes 3s, game changer

[dapper prism]

you didnt even link the area the chat was at o.o

[swift rose]

im lazy

(busy)

[dense kraken]

I see, should I level up the Cranium Cooking as well?

[swift rose]

ill be better in the future father i apologise 🥺

[dapper prism]

you should definetely youtube some vids if that's your question tbh

[dense kraken]

ah, sorry

by the way, thanks for the info

[old portal]

is it DK or ES for farming gold twines/pearler shells

[sinful aurora]

Not in rare drop table = ES

Though to be fair, with the flat map, dk does perform extremely well on pearls specifically.

[iron ravine]

do you need crystal w4 statues still :3

[old portal]

is midnight stopwatch still best afk/MK ring?

[old portal]

i do but iam not statue farming rn 13dr too small

[cunning summit]

i somehow get more trees than gold

[sinful aurora]

It's either those or emperor's opals. If you cant reach an extra mk tier with opals, stopwatch are better.

[ocean fox]

What are the best stamps to focus on late game? I know I should generally be upgrading everything but wondering whats worth the 95 percent gilded stamp + 90 percent reduction

[gentle furnace]

Multitool, mason jar

[ocean fox]

Aight about what I expected cool
Guess I can upgrade those every 5 days

[frigid sundial]

Does this include star signs you haven't unlocked yet?

[modern plaza]

I have this on and it is doubling my nothing rate!

[small dirge]

now you can do nothing 2x faster! hurray!

[foggy apex]

i havnt been bothered to clean this mess until now, plz help