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need higher food boost by statues
It doesn't for me!
Just lost a directional 64% player xp.. with 87% xp on it, one of my best ๐ฆ
He's more valuable than your 10th char
should i use the bar on something here, or wait? 4 more chems 
Do on the diamond one ig! (i'm evil)
Nuggets good though
ull get the meal one next
Nice to have 1-2 points into it but also able to just do that in 4-5h xD
do you have any event mining food? you can go to the automation arm, turn off "auto refill" and then use a stack of 1 event food to increase the speed and use one per candy use. sometimes you won't even use the one you use too if your nonconsume chance is high
thats a good idea wasent using event food only use that to sample
Ive had my auto arm turned off forever
Or big candy XP
that drop rate will remain untouched like his lab pixel brother until i have nothing else to level 
I like the Nugget upgrade, personally
i use it still because with my 99% non-consume chance i hardly ever use food
only ever turn it off when using event food
nugget to go ham when you chem cycle after the task 
If we can reach the final Superbit, it opens some very interesting things like 3 day Stamp rotation instead of 5
Meh, not worth the risk and never need to refill anything tbh..
Like, what would it even need to refill towards the end ever? nothing
๐ 5% additive is VERY good ;P
Only benefit is the risk of using event food and forgetting about it xD
Speed pots lol
With a stack of 200k+ equipped it still never really runs out
Scoli, be honest:
Do you thing #free-gem-contest๐ is esentially only for new players?
oh yeah man that 30% (.30) will get me my next surely get me my next kuk cape
I have 0 opinion
Thatโs how I lost my good mining and chopping event foods
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Is surely will1
That's why I only equip one per afk usage
someone mentionned doing killroy with bubo. but thats kinda sad because its warrior week... ๐ฆ
my dk is on 20.92, getting 2 points into that tbh would be alright for the next money multi xD
for the killroy 2k kill
ikr 
i've always "shot my shot" on the off chance i get picked, but i think it is catered towards those that have low account hours, yes. I have seen one person that i knew in a chat get picked in the 2 years i've been in this discord
I just did a big brain, sampled and forgot to take food off for the afk
me too!
And i've been here LONGER!
bah that 6 months 
6 months is 1/8th of the history of Idleon's release
3 years
Math
1/8 is close enough to 1/6
Math
I know what I said
got the metal detector and went from 49k to 418k, wow itโs lit
Thatโs pretty lit
Tbf game was starting in 2019
that, candy, or books if you still are trying to 245 all important things
Just make sure you have the resources
2018, but that was Lava's development
i mean yeah i do
only if you want to be efficent
otherwise put it into arcade balls
Wow
yeah i just did arcade balls haha
what obols should I be working on/using fragments? i already have the drop rate sets
2 more chem plants waaahg
awww.. dropping lucky lad on my bubo but not on my vman ๐ข
@green eagle ty only took another 24h in candy :p
I won once off from Twitter being a year player on a retweet contest
yep yep
@signal osprey been focusing on these since you said infinite salt doesn't matter anymore, feels nice to level up so quickly
(red leveled at all chances before anyways, along with green)
man having this active on lal characters all the time because of king doot sounds great
Everything about doot is excessively great
infinite salt doesn't matter? ๐ฎ
It never did, in truth.
once you get to a certain point, no
you can keep the salt flowing with easy turn off/on of salt mob materials and such
Since we got the W3 salt merit, anyways, it hasn't mattered
this doesnt progress you towards king doot at all unfoantrely :( they are refering to w4 pet breeding not w1 pets
which is why having two identicly named systems is confusing lolol
I think they're just saying that getting free Omniphau bonus on all 10 characters as a result of owning Doot is very strong.
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High key wanna know when doot 2 is coming out
Doot doot
doot 1 doesn't even have all its features yet
Neither will doot 2: op boogaloo
Youโre my doot: boogie woogie
pet setup yall used for the 4 pet wave 100 challenge?
It's also 130 so don't end the run at 100
thx and yeah i figured since it said 130 in the thing
Saw a poor reddit fella learn that one
I'm not even sure the game can survive another doot
Wym the games not dead
So is the bobjoepickle dream just labeled wrong or is it just currently bugged? It reads to upgrade it to level 2 but it shows progress 1/2 even though i have it upgraded to level 2 so does it really mean level 3? anyone happen to know
hmm, still nothing, guess ill check on steam maybe its just a mobile issue?
Could be, seems like half the issues are either related to Mobile or specificially ios
i had that issue with the wave dream as well, but that one fixed after i finished like wave 130 something even though it read to finish round 100
goblin 120 passed. on the way to higher!
yep works on steam, guess mobile is just borked
construction tower lvl is 50 on my poison wizard tho i need a bit higher maybe
"Can we get much higher?!" ๐ต
also need equinox beter
was it ios or android?
android
Haha you understood my clic there ๐
yeah i figured
took me 11min for wave 130 for the cloud, with a 72k peapod
That one is less of a mobile thing and more of a "Lava is bad at typing numbers" so everyone has to get to 130 for that one.
bob joe im at... 87 days away
it is great
got 4 black pickle joe
97 ๐ฆ

I never bought pickles

Canโt ๐ฆ
Gotta save trophies for more background UI

is excogia worth it? when i can just replace it with theoretically higher xp cogs? (idk how the math works on excogia for the xp too ig like does it give all the cogs in the row +20% buffing your total xp multi or something or idk)
i was wondering something similar too
that's valid
what's better placement?
Check against the character pictures, not against the summary on the left though
does this decrease the cooldown? or does it make time go faster?
Down one more so you can add more row cogs
I just checked, the summary on the left says player xp bonus goes up, but the actual xp on the character goes down drastically, so I assume that bonus isn't included
hmmmm alright
you would need to check the xp on the actual player itself not the % on the left
The one on the left is just the % written on the face of the cogs on your board.
The value when you click on the player directly is what really matters.
hmmm so yeah even if i replace mine with decently higher % on paper excogia still gives more % from the overall bonuses or whatever so its better to have
Excogia has more value if you have two players on the board since it can be placed essentially anywhere and does not take up any of your boosting cogs and gives them each 20% xp boost on top of base 67%. Technically if you had cogs with atleast 88% value for all 4 slots then itd be better but you are also losing the 5% build rate so even if you may get ever so slightly more xp its prob not worth
thanks yall
oh yeah also good to know
171M dang
i run this as a setup and its been working fine for me
are the arrow thing player xp or speed?
Man, the second half of the premium cogs are so bloody expensive
everything is xp except a few i havent been able to swap yet
everything should be player XP
ideally they would all be xp
OMFG just pulled a 160%
BIGGGG
I'm going to guess ~430m
highest i got is 113%
nvm im doing vonder afk quests on them
Oh wait, uh maybe 570m
they are 580 and 589 con respectively
I just did a ton of cog clicking and fell from 850-900m down to 750m BR ๐ฆ
lost at wave 140 ๐ฆ
Imagine having build rate cogs 
But xp/h from 18b to 20b ๐
Xp cogs till 1000 con level for me 
Why stop there?
Spiral into infinity
Well just for short breaks to build stuff
I think my carpenter is in atom range now o.o
my main squire is 428
My carpenter is only 296, i have been giga slacking on atoming it
Thats 1 day of atoms only o.o
well call me bob is 1100
Maybe at level 1000
i need to boost carpenter its lv 139
Down here in 600 range itโs not as OP 
i also have todays 40 atoms to do, just waiting for vonder timer so i can log to bubo for more water
or however many it is
We need more digits on our levels for when Lava adds Skill Mastery: 10k, 100k
oh zerg is op prayer ๐ฎ
Guess another day ๐ฆ
https://i.imgur.com/0EPb8yF.png
trickz whats your highest Afk gain % ?
like 430% or something
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Thats skilling
Dooted 
i mean fighting *
probably like 370-380%
Holy that is unsettling to look at
My SB on 331% atm but missing cape, keychains, obols etc.
you are welcome
I love it tho
Not sure, i'd have to check properly some point
Maybe thats closer to 350-360% if min max

80*
Probably a lot
80 sry
That with mob respawn keychains?
i have 12% and 11% afk chain
Kruk obols, Zzz trophy, nametag maybe?
zzz xD lol
zzz trophy i dont have that one
I dont even have fractal island and probably wont even go for it..
i ahve +10% afk gain nametag
Bottles => upgrade RNG island
h yeah i dont have fractal
Yeh Respawn > Afk
Trying to fidn where i am missing those 80% afk gain
well i am missing 30% from not having doot.
Reminder there's also this on #1084911530417606656
https://i.imgur.com/VASIiBf.png
50% from doubled kruk scarf
Not sure how fully update it is
ohhh let me check it
oh yeah. i need the double Scarf chip
gotta check when is it coming into cycle.
forgot where to find that info
Lots of good chips coming soon
week after week
highlighted the chippppss:
https://i.imgur.com/mkoGAFP.png
Jewel and Chips Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ohtWMLT4NzBuVyqcXoEvkCMPXuYGWrRWUAmBOTdZCrQ/edit#gid=1945859978
oh thanks i was trying to find where to see it
see i needed the sideways Chip for card doubler not the flat one ๐ฆ
imma have 3 of that one hahaa
november 8. i cant wait that one ! ๐ฎ
still worth getting it all for having to switch chips around less
yeah i know ^^
Also the reason you setup your card sets the right way (best in slot 1/8) so you dont have to change it on all alts later
does those things can be changed considering golden watch?
not terrible i suppose
Before Equi, 31k,
Day of maxing nugget on Equi (and spending 15+ saved up chems) I went to 32k, 75k, 113k.
The new nugget equi is amazing
3.350 evolution of plants til next counch upgrade ๐
what lv is your nugget equinox?
my 140k was before equi haha sad that everyone is catching up now but also happy i could increase mine
I maxed it
I'm keen to see what new breeding types we get with the w5 boss
i need to do pet spices thingie too hm
Also every higher nugget you get, essentially allows you to get an ever higher one
i dont have anything in the last 3 place
I'm getting around to it right now
Each location only gets me 1 meal since I've done everything else
I mean, higher nugget allows your nugget to stack for longer. Also higher nugget = more bits for more shovel upgrades to increase your min nugget
you can cancel your nugget rolls? 
when the nugget shows just +100 above your actual nugget?
like gemshop?
so you can cancel the nugget yo uget. i see
now i just need the dream to open up lol
moar digg?
cause right now its pretty much limited to what you can get in gaming right
op
21k is kinda sad
but liquid is op one. i have it at 54% i think im saving for nugget now, then after imma go for alch again
oh yeah i should get at least 1 point of that
should be maxed >.>
if you want optimal gains later on
i dont walk away from my bubo super often, usually do 1-2 full cycles at a time before playing something else
imaging hitting a 84k pet borger... but its a Heart one
i suppose, i just think of it as a nice bonus to save me if im working while buboing an dhave to handle like several calls in a row and cant stay manually clearing out my stuff
usually im activing dk tho so doesnt happen often
hoping next weeks boss is more doable for the 5x kills, i dont think any lvl of grinding is gonna give me the goods this week
i should start doing more GT and stop with the rate/cap purchases
ive been activing 9th and 10th char this week to try to get class xp for that thing, but yeah, may play some bubo soon, assuming game wont crash
what thing O.o
ive found it tends to only crash if im a fool and have walked away with the alch screen open or maybe intventoyr or..... something
just total freeze, wont be due to inventory overflow or whatever, just will stop moving, so i guess pre white screen
sometimes its just a lag spike and comes back, but often if im afk not doing anything for like 30-45 mins ill notice stuff going wonky
Have you opened task manager to see if there's any extraneous tasks running in the background?
i mean specifically idleon freezes, my other stuff will be fine so unsure
so i guess yes there are other processes since usually i have discord, idleon, a text game and youtube or whatever articles im reading or whatever
I've found sometimes programs get prioritized and hog resources
Something's wrong with my PC though it keeps using 100% disk when I'm just opening a browser or something
Haven't bothered to get around to fixing it cuz I don't use my PC much lately
73% utilization 
gotta get 128GB ram minimum
done pet spices setup
is it okay to just doing every dungeon solo at a certain point?
if u like it, why not
what are the maximums for TD? Speed from the Party tower caps at? Crit caps at?
I haven't really gotten to do world 2/3 dung cause it's enough of a pain to find people just for w1, but equinox taught me I can just solo w1 dungeon so like... kinda gives me a lot more options for dungeoneering
Hh doesn't work solo
w2 and w3 are definitely more meant for soloing
I wouldn't even bother trying to find a group for them, just for w1 happy hours
does this work on talents with big cooldowns like cc, vman speedrun, printer go brrr?
what is hh?
oh okay yeah makes sense
Any benefit to doing any particular dungeon to increase rank when pre 50 or is it basically just hit w1 hh once a week and you're good
if u havent maxed out flurbo shop good upgrade and bought at least 2 opal rings yes
but its personal choice, some ppl keep farming keychains, some dont, up to u
kk, I'm only a few ranks away from 50 so I'm not super concerned but it'd be nice to have 50
gonna be nice to get all these w2/3 achievements I've been missing out on too
sure if u like completion stuff
w2 dung achievements give damage and multikill bonuses, w3 achievements give dmg and exp bonuses, I like free bonuses
Is worth to say on fractal island? How many chars?
Only if you're post game
if you're post game then there's already nothing there that benefits you 
What classes are best for w2/w3 solo for equinox clouds I havenโt really done them aside from quests
are there any guides to help understand the w2/3 dungs?
Sweet, got 100k creds out of that HH, prayers pretty cool
youtube mostly just showed me videos for getting bandit bob cards
w2 just do the tasks AND always focus the rock on every map before completing the task
Ya I am away only on iOS need my pc lol hard to do some of the movement ones with a mouse
ok but.... now what though....
THERE'S ALWAYS... ALCHEMY
noooooooo. All boats lead to alchemy
*rome
only if you want to
WAIT A SECOND.. DO YOU KNOW OF A YOUTUBE CHANNEL CALLED OVERLY SARCASTIC PRODUCTIONS?
I do now
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i have a few artifact that just dont wanna hit ๐ฆ
I sat on lantern for 6 weeks.
Me: looks at my non golden fury that I tried to get for 6 months (The golden form)
1 more chem plants. 1 more one more come on
31min for next log. hope i can get few reset ๐
Whats a good level for cronium bubble?
GOT FIFTY TWO MILLION MORE DAMAGE TODAY!
thats a lot for where you're at. What was the big bump?
Hmmm w5 worship setup?? ๐
I havenโt had an eldritch drop in months, any tips? ๐
Is 100k ladle possible? With bb and others in kitchen 24/7 and farming PO for colo tickets
i guess possible is the wrong word. is it worth the effort?
No I'm awful. I don't even have omniphaunts equipped. But I'm pushing crabbo vials, so I check each character every 3 hours for traps, and all of them have 5000 golden hampters on them
If a new meal level on most of your meaels costs only 100 ladles, than no probably not. Because using those 100 ladles will have an exponantial impact on your meal creation thanks for vman. So you really need to gauge when it's worth losing that much progress
Rift ofc
I'm at tremor btw
ah. yeah. that'll do it
The skill mastery ๐
Someone explain to me rq how rift 16 50% skull works?
I have 0 idea how to get it to a dementia skull, not even mentioning lava
use ES and turn off meteor
How foten do you check, and do you have SB talent 11 off? also definetely need to grind out that fury
So tornado or anything works?
JUST meteor?
every skull that generates has a 50% chance to jump and upgrade. Your goal is keep as many of the mobs on the map alive as possible. You want to "chase" high level skulls in hope they jump
you can easily keep meteor on imo
dumbest RNG concept in the game
doubt itll clear map ever
it didn't take long for me to single target and clear that challenge
I found it went faster without meteor because the purple bolt gave more time and alive mobs for jumping skulls. But that was just me
The purple bolt though
when you're killing just make sure there are monsters alive for the skull to jump to
yeh bolt is a higher risk
The only struggle with ES is when the skyull jumps to a rift monster.
can take forever to kill.
Like this? or...?
I mean seems fine. Gotta just play around with it while active
feel free to move your es around to another platform while portal is up to keep faster overall spawns. And manually chase individual mobs with higher tier skulls on them
its all luck and takes time. There's no secret. It's just tedium
So kill mobs with high tier skills?
kill the mob with the highest tier skulls and hope
if it is lost, go to the next highest
repeat until you win the coin flip game
anyone know if there is any updated tower defence layouts since the patch with the dmg increase?
Where can I get good breeding tips? The thing pinned in #midgame-chat-w3๐งw4๐ฎ is a bit confusing.
Already got first lava skull
Woops
As in basics of how breeding works?
spice set ups?
Fight teams for spice/arena?
Fight teams. Sorry should've been more specific ๐
For both spice and arena
I haven't unlocked the last spice yet I think but also I'm lazy and don't like doing pet stuff
Got 4 dementia skulls, 0 lava skulls
Thank you
This was my spice team
I have four slots lol
Had to occasionally shift the shield to second or first place to time that first attack block
I'm currently using "the nuke" from the guide I shared, that team looks close to my arena 200 team except for that bean
Need that arena team, itโs been a hot minute, so donโt clearly remember mine
Rattler, burger and eggshell were critical for my arena team, but canโt recall what else
@gray pagoda keep that team for when you get the slots from arena, itโll take you through all spices
I used the wave 200 team from the sheet I shared, nutto, whale, glublin, sand pot, mimic, monocle man
Will do. Thanks!
Looter draws from your available powers, so it works best if you have eggshell but no alchemic iirc
you switch pot/glublin positions when you have alchemic
Yeah, you want w3 mustache unlocked and no more to progress through arena easiest
ugh im so close on rift 8
200 is 200, as long as you don't have to do any more arena
just one more second 
bold of you to be giving out pet battle advice with no arena 200 :x
You'll get there!
Why is kattle neackle rarer than wings .. ๐ฆ
i've done wave 200..... Not fun.
Did it 1st try tho
pet arena is not fun which is why getting past 200 is great, no more arena
if you drop wing. you should automatically drop all item of lower rarity... ๐ฆ XD
on boss only
I hate it when people ask, who made this guide?
Equinox looms over you....
the google doc guide sheet I shared isn't my own advice, and it can be a bit old compared to like the most current meta approach, but it works out so
wave 130 is nothing to me
Still, it's something
1-150 is faster than 151-200
I remember doing arena at 10k max str
1-175 is faster than 176_200
is there a spot to find the weekly boss combo
tips and tricks thread
AAAAAA stop stealing the last chemplant from me pls
you do have to like, have your stuff together account wise for it to work, but it's solid advice
which one is best for zow/chowing BB?
chizoar all the way
alr thanks
we're mid october, wear your scarf
true
What? I don''t even have chem!
thats what they all sayyy
Oh. That makes it sound pretty terrible
I live in FL, we wear scarfs to be stylish and achieve heat stroke
I live in canada we wear scarf 365/365
Early game, base multi>Multi per tier
Late game, base multi<Multi per tier
I live in houston, people put on coat when it hits 69 degrees (nice)
I was born in Houston!
๐ซก How are the HEB's there?
I miss Texas, the place where I got stabbed by thousands of fire antss
HEB is the best grocery store in texas, although it really doesn't help much with my idleon progress
(I'm Texan-Taiwanese)
It does, those 99c packs of gum keep a guy chugging
in fairness I've never tried pouring some Whataburger jalapeno ranch from HEB onto my account to make it less bad
i remember were HEB used to have those slot-ish wheels
If you bought 100$ more, you got a ticket
I fondly remember as I child pulling on that and winning a pair of scissors.
shouldnt be hard to get scarf on kattle with 18.66x... but i guess i get more wings than neackle
I do enjoy meeting fellow texans but this is getting pretty off topic, especially for w5 chat
neackle not scarf*
Well, if killing nkattle is too boring, we can always do it on vman!
#costume-closet If you never knew
If im active chopping at equinox, is the afk info accurate? I should be getting 12m/hr logs but im getting way less
The most on topic thing I can say about Houston is that during Harvey I was grinding on OSRS, so now that I'm playing idleon I kinda get that, as much as I'm trying to improve day by day, real gains take months
i guess i could kill it on my SB faster Boss per minute but less drop rate
Ikr
AFK and equinox don't mix
the afk is capped to 2 minutes, so you are getting an accurate amount for 2 minutes of afk time
Not trying to be mean but uh there is sort of a sign
me right now:
I just realized dooters get skill exp pearls passively to levell cooking. grrr...
Heโs not afk-ing, heโs asking if the afk amount would be equal to the amount he is getting while active
Yeah but i said i was active chopping not afk. Just trying to figure out how much im actually getting per hour
Okay that is entirely my bad, I guess it kinda matter what your afk gain is
I think most people would recommend to sample and print over actively doing resources in equinox
Lava should have increased that sign by tenfold
AFK info screen and active gains do not correlate
15 CHEM PLANTSSSSS @cerulean hemlock YEAh
I didn't really feel like actively doing resources in equinox felt great, especially because I have two vmen and I can just print all my resources forever
Dang i am stuck on all cloud for at least a week. til killroy switch to mage
or til my vman drop a trophy
Sorry for misreading your question at the beginning. I think that if you want to actively farm equinox resources your best bet is doing so via minigame. Especially if you just got a new resource and the vial for it, it makes it pretty easy to get the first like 6 levels at least of the vial
yeah, already mentioned print seemed to be what most people prefer but I know I didn't mind playing some minigames especially to get that marble vial some quick early levels
earlier I had 8k secs of CC progress, just hit 18k. So my account is still trash but I've more than doubled my garbage power in like 5 hours, so I'm probably pro gamer
pretty soon you'll be doubling that number again, so no worries. keep at it.
I think trickz mentioned that you get a lot of improvement after you get ancient fury and start hitting 200+ level talents. I killed kruk before really looking into how to play so a lot of what I'm doing is to try to make up for lost time lol
Is there anything that can be done to help speed starfire ore into bars outside of oil drums?
Iโm just wondering if I am missing something since Iโve been farming them on a maxed out forge for quite some time and only have 30k, still 20k away from my vman weapon upgrade
yeah, you need to do 3 min cycles on your archer classes with the talent allocated
err ya 2 min
Not quite sure what that is. Iโll look at their talents
Hmmm solo kill 4th grandfrogger bugged? Just did it and still says I havent
pairs nicely with gmush farming for lab bonus
20k nugget boost nice!!! ๐
Ah thanks guys, I see it. I never farm with my archers
They are painfully underleveled. Looks like Iโll be fixing that soon haha
there's an equinox dream to have all your characters at least level 250, "even the ones that are bad"
my perma lab bubo is fighting his way to 250 rn
I could imagine some people temporarily taking time away from gmush to help with 1b deathnote skulls, depending on where their account is
But gmush is definitely the default benchmark against which all other SB uses must be measured
Afk farming? Why SB?
I feel like Iโm definitely missing something now
I currently have 9 out 10 people doing nothing until I get 10k hours from fractal
Archers are low value for printing but pretty good at killing while AFK (and smelting)
It's the most valuable thing most of your archers can be doing afk (since you'll be active with a more useful active class) and you're not missing out on as much printing with archers as you would be on other classes (if you don't have doot)
Does the smelting errday talent apply for AFK farming too?
Due to a quirk in the coding, I think it actually works better AFK
Oh man. Iโve been missing on so much forging then haha
Maybe not "so much"
Well now I know. Iโm going to use candies and lower level him some since my SB is lvl 92โฆ.
That's why we say collecting gains every like 2 minutes for optimal returns
Because 2 minutes afk is the same result as 2 years afk if you're killing things quickly in those 2 minutes
wait how are you forging starfire bars at class level 92
Okay so thatโs a really big gainโs difference though for early worlds
that's like w3 territory
SB has been neglected for a very long time
And I wasnโt mining beyond void and green ore for quite a while
Yeah I focused on my DK, VMan and Bubo mostly. Everything else has been shunned for the lab
Oh and ES too I guess
SB1 into gmush
Would it make sense to lvl him up first though?
idk, just joined into here
Is the grilled cheese the best food Iโm gonna get
Where should I splice on w3?
Iโm talking normal health food from the W5 shop
I have a lot of health and the mobs canโt hurt me much anymore, just curious if that is the best current available food
I appreciate the link
How long does it take to greenstack craftables?
is it worth using midas touch btw for dk crystal farming?
Remember that its a ton faster from inventory than storage.
What's a divine crystal?
old convos say 10 min, sounds about right?
woops, dk crystal
Why wouldnt it be worth having extra DR? As long as you still 1 shot them kinda thing
๐คทโโ๏ธ multi kill?
I know it isnt for ES
Es is because of wormhole hp scales with every kill, by giving them 15x to 27x more hp you won't get as far in a wormhole
But also, ES isnt used for crystal*
DK you want to get as much DR as possible for the guaranteed drop and extra rolls on extra drops.
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Random side note, remember to not use +HP prayers in colo2. since it affects skilling nodes
How important is skill power for samples
dont really have a reason to do colo 2, only colo 3
15 T5 chem plant and yet none of em went T6 with log and everything... dang
kitsune was on
Almost Snail lvl max too ๐
If u still need colo 3 ig, but that's a more temp colo. Colo 2/4 are the ones you'll end up grinding more.
well. need 8 more lvl but still
for candy and stuff?
I heard earlier that c3 was better then c2
(am approaching end game btw)
Colosseum Purpose & Rewards:
Colo 1 = Gems per ticket (But not much more than colo 2, at the loss of candy)
Colo 2 = Candy, Golden Kebab (+% Total dmg)
Colo 3 = Slush Obols+Skulls, Golden Bread (+% Coin drop)
Colo 4 = Eggs, Laddles
Colo 5 = To be released
(at least based on comments and feedback i've gathered from people on the Disc)
hmmm
Biggie is damn amazing for candy
is it normal to have artifact chance at as low as 0.03-0.08% if im trying to go for eldritch fury relic
Just test it with a few of the daily bags, stack Orb first etc.
ah, I see. Don't need slush/skulls or bread anymore
Remember to remove SB talent 11 if you check sailing more than once a day
right, did want to ask this as well
so the trips are like 106minutes, what would the break point be?
i check twice a day generally so like 12h
Probably too much math and rng to properly judge..
ive been using the talent cuz sometimes i go longer than that
But the general rule is if you check sailing 1/day, use sb talent 11.
If u check sailing more than once a day, dont use it
and golden hampter procs etc
but eh, dont need to if i have all of it already
ill take it off and try to check more often, and another question regarding it
if i check every 2h would having the talent be detrimental?
They may have mentioned colo 3 is more bearable than 2
prob ahaha
You got +hp prayers on?
Just mentioned that like a min ago
It scales the skilling node's hp/time
did you have to do the material resources for w2 colo to progress?
or can you ignore it?
Cant use midas, big brain, or jawbreaker in 2
Could if you want to hang out there 20x+ longer 
They are point multis so i dont think u need it, but not much else to do
oh okay. well fk
Yeah i dont have jawbreaker,big brain or midas on and i still cant progress in W23
w2
oh wait it lauched wave now
Its time based
It still takes 10-12 seconds
Colo 2 Skilling nodes have a timer, the timer = Health. The health is affected by prayers, meaning the timer would increase for those. But either way you need to wait it out
oh thats kinda stupid xD
but yeah i understand now
damn thats a good source of kebab ๐ฎ didnt know... 68 kebab 1 run
So max you can do in colo 2 is 2 runs per orb. Whereas others you can manage 3 runs usually (at least ik for colo 1+4)
ladles you say
Yup, i get ~200/run
Not enough to get u 100k lol
Doesnt remain, it resets
whatcha mean then 2 run per orb
If you have the buff up, any map change etc will reset orb count to 0 (apparently) but you can still stack in from new again.
As long as the icon is in top right, orb edfect stays. The count resets to 0 tho on map refresh
I don't need 100k ladles (yet) I need every ladle I can get
ohhh so just coming back into it the orb will still be there?
ohhhh
i wasnt sure about that so i didnt bothe asking
i think each clear is like 277 orb so that's about what you should expect if you can't see orb on run 2
Honestly doesnt really matter much at the same time, not like you can change it
You're in the colo, you kill stuff before your buff runs out. Done xD
After vials, we dont need equinox resources right?
It's not like doing Biggie Hours outside of colo and manually spawn it and try to stack your orb on mimics
Not atm, but most likely going to be future content, like maybe new bubbles.
I'll still try and work towards making a few 10's of thousands of bars, just incase. ๐คท
if only we could filter golden pants
lol, i mean once you do 2-3 runs you should have all the stackable items (except book) afaik?
true i should make bigger pouch on my dk for flies/soul xD
they takes some spaces
btw is there any easier way to farm colo tickets from po besides just constantly using pens to reset the rewards?
feels so fking tedious for so little
If only lava would finally implement a hotkey to use pens.....
no
Unfortunately serious
we truly wish
took me like 15 minutes to go through 200, got another 10k or some shit to go through
While at it, a keybind to toggle the Cog delete toggle ๐ฆ
Sadly even with w6 pouch and hella stamp upgrades you're still not anywhere close to the 1050 stack cap
Instead I'll just never use my 20k+ pens
mood
Is 7 omnis good or should I get more
1050 stack cap?
https://buzz_tarver.idleonefficiency.com/ hey fellow gamers, im finding myself feeling like i cant improve / make considerable changes to what im doing, but i know that just isnt true, any big things pop out that seem glaring?
Anything over 1050m of a stack in your chest gets converted to atoms even if the collider is off
i jniw wgy are you talking bout this
im talking about golden pants taking inventory space during colo xD
Ohhhh
also what you mean bluestack has a macro function
Artifacts
i am not sure if it is okay to talk about that in here?
Wait no I was commenting on your flies souls not pants
But how is that relevant once you have all the stackables.. they just keep stacking
you cant say it
Also your alchemy is a little sad (as in neglected)
Rule 4, don't discuss those.
Yeah trickz if you wouldve follow. i didnt have pouch high enough to old 1000+ stackable flies or soul on that DK xD
Welllll.. get them xD
wich i just got new pouch and now im good
but i was answering back to hathor not understanding that i meant that
Yeah that was a pretty pitiful hold capacity lmao
Kanna be writing story
I don't remember what my hold capacity is for bugs/souls but I know my log capacity is around 150m
fix your world 2 key so everyone can claim them
there are so many stamps you can upgrade, click on highlight stamps it shows you which
you also have more than enough cash to get all anvil points
what is really going to boost your damage and stuff besides artefacts will be alchemy, get to point where you can atom important bubbles asap more than worth it
The real issue is neglecting a ton of easy stuff that all add up to account progression.
Most of these issues can all be visible by oneselves by just going through each tab once tbh.
yeh but honestly his IE isnt that bad compared to what people tend to post here
"why am i not progressing"
and then all they did is push further in the worlds and negelected everything 
ill be honest, this game gets overwhelming for me, so when i feel like im going insane i do tend to not work on that stuff as much as i should :/ im surprised i havent been flamed for my construction yet, that skill is lost on me
Oh for sure, the usual
"183 Unclaimed books, yet achievement not reached"
" 2-3 Boss keys on each"
"But i am level 450 and cant level alchemy anymore, im maxed out" -> sees 10k oak sample
yeh it really can be, I feel the same at times cuz I am forgetful and just, forget to do things
so I write myself goal lists, I focus out a certain issue I see with my account or chars and do them one at a time, certainly not the most efficent cuz I could be doing more at once, but it makes it easier for me to just not feel like I got a bizzilion things to do
you dont need 75 though
uh
for the dream
i knowq
but i cant even hold 75 trophy on me
i can hold 71 ๐ฎ
dang 1B sample.. i cant do that
use other chars as a bank, currently my Vman is doomed to just hold luckylads for me cuz I dont like him all that much
Thats why i honestly highly recommend the once done its done stuff.
Clearing things like anvil, daily keys, constellations, star signs etc... Once you complete a lot of the stuff it's gone, no more content to worry about in that sense. Which clears the clutter (and is also beneficial)
Not the vmannnn
2nd dk/sb/es are the storage ppl
vman needed too often for the high cost stamps
my current goals have really been the equinox stuff (seems like a beeg cheats way of getting damage / other things), beating nightmare kruk for the gear, and getting the lads up to the highest gear that i can / tools as well
or maybe i can get it i gotta verify
Honestly dmg on equinox should be the least of the prioirty
I dont like them either, but I like my Vman even less
honestly I only like my BM and Bubu, maybe my ES a little bit but he annoys me too cuz all the task I do on him annoy me 
ive been getting the resources as well, and all 5 dreams so i can try and do some of them
damage will come naturally when you take care of all your other stuff, so I wouldnt really bother putting points into it since there are better dreams to level up
imma come back in a week or so and make you lads proud, i really appreciate the help!
was w2 colo meant to have a delay between spawning mobs?
of like 3-5 seconds?
*during the 5 rounds
dont have any hp prayers on
hmmmm, unsure why im struggling to do 2 runs with 1 orb
I cant do 2 runs
Im at 267 tho
i get like 1 and a half
whos the worst character to 500 ?
Others who have slug can prob do 2 runs
Have you made sure to take off any +hp% prayers?
yes
I have slug :/
BB and BM cuz you cant really do them active, vman isnt great either
yeah all the cloud right now i am blocked on all of them, just gotta wait 100k ladle,killroy mage run, and try to find a way to get 1B sample
Can you lvl your orb more?
its level 217
oh yea that will be a pain ๐ฎ
but 271
You need longer orb if its 217
Oh go max book that
imma shove everyone on kitchen and farm those ladles quick hehe
Orb should be either 268 or 300 without PO box
my grind time bubble is 27k cuz bubu is best class right after BM, but my BM from 494 to 500 will still take 2-3 weeks of afk wurm
I dont have elderich elder fury
Mm
I hope BB and BM get some way to res or create mobs like other classes do, with their next elite upgrade
Then 2 runs is prob out of question rn
ah i see
sounds like holy pearl will come handy
barely got any, soo no option :((
at least you can get close to 20 per week
60 pearls for that not so bad
try to guess who has neglected killroy since its release and only done it like, 10 times before last update dropped ?
regrets, but nothing new for me, idleon is just me making one stupid decision after another
ahaha i feel you, started 2 year ago, but really playing efficiently for like months XD
I have been trying to play efficent since mid 2021, but, emphasis on, trying
at least whne W6 will come out we will be able to candy those socks
true, 500 on all would be cakewalk if you can candy w5, but w6 is prop months into the future soo
it's over, finally
yea haha we have time to 500 hundred before w6 drop
Whatโs a good lvl to get your shiny pets to before you move onto another one? Lvl 5? Just got shinies a few days ago
most people push for 7/8 for shiny % increase, other stuff 5
i really need to unlock another equi, thats the next one i have coming and sadly gaming is taking a big hit while i wait. considering consuming some just to do stuff but theyll suck
seem like you gonna get a good nugget
truu, thatll be nice
Iโm trying to get chem still after, like 11 months or however long itโs been
Probably but I do it every 0.1% or so
Spam it
Would be good to get a fail safe with plants like the nugget
That was a good change
why is the rock guy not on, doesnt that speed up new plant growth
i didn't turn it on before the 15 chems
where do you get this?
its not real
im convinced its not possible
he buffed it, its only 2 shimmers per try now
why my game always crash at 3rd level of grand frogger boss since the update
i havent experienced this. is it always as he spawns or something?
65 mins clicking, i think imma take a break
as he spawns
hm. das weird af. maybe do a steam repair
I'm playing on Android
nah, it only crash at dungeon frogger boss
is this quest bugged for vman?
oh it just updated but still missing eliteus quest
so 21/22
Anyone know how to up the dmg on vman
all roads lead to alchemy
dw I feel the same way
"Hey how do I improve my-" "Do you have every alchemy bubble to level 600 yet?"

Also the wiki tells u btw when u scroll down further
ah, well decided not to gamble on it tho, 2% all stats for a lot of pain
Anyone here happen to have copper sampled on bm? Trying to get enough for 1 slot hourly click but its rough
My oak would be a lot easier since i have 1.2b oak and only 600m copper samples atm
Only way i could assume my copper to work is with some time on Relic
Yeah, thought i'd be able to do copper since i wanted the extra atoms from mages doing the oak logs, but might have to settle for BM doing oak logs 
its like what, 43m to do a single slot?
with max relic
No clue, never maxed relic, as ive never really let it stack much more than 3 weeks.
Sorry :/
So my DK refuses to use his warrior skills (Power Strike and Whirl) when he is on auto
Even if I remove other skills, he will just auto attack instead of using them. Any reason for taht? can i change that behaviour?
Menu>Options>use attacks during auto
He is using Attacks!
He is absolutely using his Divine Knight and Squire Skills
Just noch the first two ones from the basic warrior class
do you have final weapon?
But it irks me, cause he is doing kattlecruk and is losing absurd amounts of damage because of it
If i had to guess, it would be there is a range req and if you have final weapon, might have too good of a range
it's this^
No, I have the alst one from T4 anvil
the range is higher so he's out of range unless you move him in range
Oh yeah, on kattle kruk make sure you are standing directly on top of him
anyone knows which is better for SB obols for MKing, Mk obols or Agi obols?
Depends..
If you have very low mk, then mk could technically be better, bet overalll just going full agi is easier
if you can break a new MK level then agi, if not MK obols will do more
Whatโs the best place to farm luck lad on maestro
most people used candy on dreadlo ore
some had it in 20 hours, I think mine was 80
For more context I was at about 80 as well
how
i buy new bribes but it doesn't add any 
trying to grind to level 50 dungeon for equinox challenge. Best to just smash out grandfrogger over and over again or do the other worlds give more xp
is there like any google doc to help on how to beat every pet arena?
is that bug ?
@unreal cape there is one in the pinned section, i forget what world chat its in though sorry
try restarting the game, I can't remember if something actually drops when you buy it
rip ๐ช thanks tho
grandfrogger is the fastest and best xp
Hard highrolled. 2 Horns of the Foal run win
pretty easy, increase your CC and get bubo tentacle to 3 seconds
cc?
cranium cooking
What's your Roadkill bubble?
ah yeah
@tawdry steeple cheers mate...damn that grind aint gonna be fun lol
im restarting the game but still can't 
which ones that?
Iam still at 28k since 10month
new update wont give me new nugget
You should check some youtube vids on bubo cc
currently its 77
yeh then it sounds like a lot more on your account is a little behind
Put 1 point into the throwing canisters ability
Shld be bubo page top left
ur a saint
leveling up my lab bubo and didn't put any in it lol
my cranium cook is dirt, but it still easy
does anyone know how regularly the 3d printer ticks while you're active playing?
toolbox shows u on the dashboard when your next 3D print is
also it's hourly (but not necessarily on the hour)
is there a big difference between lvl 2 and max lvl? Should I wait until I get max and then do TD?
No reason not to wait if it's only like a day to max
You still need the basic tower levels at least
reminder this does nothing
buy that bribe on the list and it unlocks the others
i cant buy this 
oh , I don't have enough money hehe
it working
thank you
i hate grinding obol frags
Active DK at beans, filter all bronze obols, shred your silver ones.
Gotta dk beans anyways at some time, if po isnt maxed then something like pots or bloodbones
It gets pretty easy when you get 5+ obles an hour
ive been at snelbies
Collecting hundreds of obles while statue farming has made me not hate obles
Unless you need the cards, most people go to Pots for the glas for stamp.
Yeh, just comes down to what you need, do something with a side purpose
Vman Lucky Lad, currently on Palm Tree with a 1 - 67 rare drop.
Anyone use another resource for better result?
yeah i do need to ruby my snelbies cards and i picked it for flat map and rare drop table is higher rate at snelbs
Dreadlo mining is what most people resort to. Palm is nice if u need the stamp ig. Alternative motives would be cards that you need
I wish obles stacked infinitely, like everything else. Would make it even better
ive got all stamps except last 2 island and 2 of the arcade ones
Is it actually worth using 1h Candy or just leave it afk for a bigger chunk of time
imagine if filtered obols got auto fraged
You can calculate exactly how long to leave it to get multiple drops
can this slush just give me the 4% ๐ฆ
Any fast way to level up.... alchemy
bubo
I have my void with my bubo
But he's still at 92
Like the actual lvl not like bubbles
buboon mapthat one shot with poison i.e mustaches w3
i already have p just need an s plz?
cans for w4
Does talent reset potion reset vman's tab 4 talent points to 1?
is it recommended to max out the skilled dimwit prayer?
ok, thanks!
Lol no I need voids alchemy level to increase faster
Aye
me?
done xD
are there any other prayers that I should max out? I know not to do that for royal sampler.
drop rate prayer, money prayer, afk prayer, carry cap(active) prayer, multikill per tier prayer
Did anyone figure out a 4 team pet battle that works?
Burger refiller looter and something else i forgor,
peapod
Ahhh, right.
jealous, it's too late for me!
whats the chip repository do?
are you new to w5 jesus?
nvm im hand a stroke
Is there a way to check how many nuggets you've claimed with the equinox nugget upgrade?
that's a w4 thing we can direct you to helpful info if you need
is balloon exp affected by anything?
@dapper prism when should i start farming statues for onyx
what even else is there to min max...
anyone got the ladle layout? I can't find it anywhere ๐ข
Pretty sure balloon exp benefits from your exp multipliers
But a lot of exp multipliers are additive so they don't make much difference
Skilling exp multipliers are mostly additive*
Is the peapod the one thing that cant be replaced?
Wtf, pet arena just keeps crashing... at like wave 30
Jesus christ
How did you crashed
Was it on mobile
Yeah
Huh weird
Not got access to my pc as im on vacation
Sad, think if I open it on the browser it might make a difference? And yeah It was on.
this new bubo uppgrade is amazing
Could I see your IE? I'm working on 1 billion myself
?
liquidinvestment
AH
I'm gonna be here for a while
Looks like stamp neglect
does the type of pet have any influence over its power?
say nutto vs worm, is there any difference
or just the breeding lvl
I see what you mean, got to wave 115 twice in a row and died ๐
mine isnt much better
how many you getting tiger?
my afk rate needs some work
My multi tool and ladle both at 190 
ahhh there we go, with the chips on its a bit better
Should I use Easy resources or Bosses n Nightmare cards bonus when trying to get statues from mining?
Probably hard resources
oof yeah, my multitool needs work
time to grind some bubo i suppose since looks like cash is my bottleneck for that one
ok thanks
only 250 days to go for my 100k ladles \o/
