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the only things I can think of is that playing ES is laggy and slows down your ingame clock, construction EXP works in that it is always ticking in game so if you lag hard enough, that will affect your EXP as well. when you finish your ES session, do you click cloudsave? if there is a lot of time on your ES, that would explain it
I don't usually cloudsave between switching but I also don't lag that much with ES, I lag a bit for sure but only enough to move my time a minute or two after hours long sessions
I'll check again tomorrow with more thorough documentation
That alchemy cloud is funny cause u need to actually upgrade it manually since the excess water goes through the cap
finally 
anyone got sb build (skills in order i should use for active afking)
holy shit i 5 starred every single ore except starfire and only then did i get the lucky lad drop
this game is so skill based
How did you guys get the 20k oceanman statues ? Vman or SB
Sounds like a skill issue 8)
u need urself the new nugget diggotron upgrade ๐ from equinox ๐
i need this too lol
Clash of cans is still pretty tedious even at level 3 of the equinox skill
How many did u invest on that bonus?
After 11 alchemy maybe ill go there
ty
Is it worth to get the dream TD to 5/5? Or go for alch/dmg orso first?
whats the best way to get the lucky lad drop on beginner
not that rush if you're worship always low
candy dreadlo
Got all 130 atm and w5 at 120. Guess could get to 150 somewhat easy with just 1/5.
If 130 is best currently, 150 with 1/5 is unlikely
1/5 doesn't help to reach higher wave but faster to 120~
If you were going to lose, you almost certainly would do so before the stacks got high enough to make a big difference
In most maps I get overrun at 139.
5/5 certainly best
Yeah, on 139 you are going to be at a max of 16 stacks, so that's probably not going to save you
Oh it only 16 stacks, didnt know it capped. Makes sense though.
It goes back to zero whenever a new wave starts, then waits 10sec before it starts ticking up again
So super great for killing bosses with ludicrous hp, less useful for hard waves
Boss 130 isn't much of a hasstle, think it was like 35ish mins last time in w3 td. Maybe I had a wrong setup.
about getting 1m points , how do you though to spent them ? 
upgrading kraken worth like a million or more
What is the way for the 4 pets r130?
whats the difference between multiplicative and addative again?
Tnx
Thats uhhh lot of krakens
nvm im just gonna google it lmao
another stalling time 
are these quests account wide or individual?
individual
dont you forget boost food ?
I got to W5 through candy pushing, I got the bear in divinity should I keep all my character except my ES in divinity while my ES farm pop obol or there's more important things to do right now
with the weekly bosses is it the same for everyone
Do shrines get upgrade progress with skills like divinity?
i wonder what happens when u reach ur max nugget ๐ค do u get a max nugget roll everyroll with that new upgrade until u eventually level ur shovel ๐
only levels in construction (makes them level faster) and one of the equinox vials (also level up speed) for shrines right now iirc
I mean if I can level shrines with afk skills like divinity or mining or do they only get leveled from afk fighting claims?
works with skilling too
So it's probably best to put all my shrines in W5 town since most of my chars are in divinity? I found the shrine artifact already.
u put them in the world town that u plan to spend most time on
Gotcha, thanks.
and try to move them as little as possible/only when a new level just been hit
Any plans how to clear level 120 in all worship types?
nice
what have been doing to beat caustic galaciaxus solo for the equinox challenge? tried rushing to boss and lacked damage, feel if i do quests i run out of time
just buying rng upgrades and smashing quests out with dk?
Im still losing at wave 120(w5)with lv60 poison
what level is considered a decent one?
sweet cheers mate ill give it a shot. Just checking all ice dudes have to be dead to kill boss aye?
Only have 1 equinox bonus tho maybe i should get all of them
Skill issue i guess then
I used trickz setup
Storm 70
Others around 55-60 as well
130%
Is that still lacking?
Hmm
Probably
lord have mercy im bout to bust
Do you have any suggestion for towers upgrade bonus?
All my party tower AABB
Too much enemy
With 5 kraken
Still not enough
3 poison 1 void 1 storm 5 kraken 8 party
Yepp
Ah yes frozone i got it as well
1 frozone
Kraken BAA right?
All poison 15
All towers 15 except party all party 20
Hmm noted, maybe ill try again later
Thanks for the tips
does doot bypass the Purrmep divinity thing which says only 1 person can be connected?
No
Still need to connect to him
how can i get those red bits instead of white in gaming?
u just gotta keep progressing and leveling up ur bit values via the various upgrades
things like this
i went for the shotgun approach 
Where meal %?
these are my last ones to lvl 5
Ah getting all level 5
oops its been a while since last time i print
Whatโs the biggest nugget people have seen?
someone grabbed a 3.5 mil earlier
mine is 1.5m
I was told the fish vial was actually build speed and got excited, but I have no extra exp/hr 
didn't think it required it but gimme a sec
i definitely wasnt 88m pre-update, im 88m now on my wizard
Build speed is kinda like afk%, it increases everything
for example, levelling up with this increases all 3 stats
yeah, its why you also get more EXP in construction when youre on a warrior
Just lava things
lava is funny like that
but yeah, vial says build rate, but people were reporting build speed
but only my build rate increased when I levelled the vial
I'll take a screenshot properly next level up
lots of information gets skewed in new updates
wait until 6/6 nug buff to start digging? or is the buff retroactive?
100k ladles, wonder how long thatll take, am short of 10k from never using them through standard play, but i guess i could hardfocus and run some w4 colo and get that goin
ive got 10k ladles in past 18hrs ish
so it goes pretty fast
like a week u should have it
from colo or other means
from just putting my 2 barbs in cooking to generate passive ladles
oh hmmm, wonder why i get so few, like 5 hours was 180
lava you couldn't give us mages this week for the 2k kills? rude
is ur ladle stamp very low ?
oh ladle stamp lolol
28B construct exp -1058M build rate before vial
38B construct exp 1653M build rate after vial
@tacit tulip
125, not horrible but defintely needs pushed
this is what i got from build "rate" vial
maybe I'll try a full game reboot instead then
decent
oh thats a good idea heres stupid me trying to grind it out ๐
it won't be too bad with bubo and the new respawn upgrade
but double warrior is just rude
you can increase respawn rate with new purchase
By how much?
enough to get 2k id assume ๐คท
My first run on poops this week was 600, I then repeated it with 2x respawn speed,a nd got over 1k
i got a 800 this week and didnt even use bubo
so i think with 2x its possible and bubo
wondering how many seconds might be enough
yeah no exp rate change after a game reboot, guess lava hates me ๐ฆ
for your construction?
yeah
I can get a vial to 13 actually so that'll increase it ever so slightly, let's test
Has lava said anything about the 100 5* cardifier bug?
man I dunno, it went up that time lmao
are double loot value captains good?
kinda the end goal, cause by the end u shld have no need for speed
How do you craft the new lucky lad trophy, you can get 75 inventory slots can you?
80 is max
I swear my XP went up a ton from vial
I was at like 7B per hour and Iโm at like 13B now
guys which equinox should i focus on next?
can you double passive cards?
Used to be able to, I'm sure some of the older guides will say to double some of the old passives, but it doesn't work anymore
some cards where changed to passive later, they'll be the ones you're seeing
chizoar shrine card used to be not-passive for example
ah ok thanks
vials
also do colo chests count as monsters for money% and stuff
anyone knows what the best way is to farm for a lucky lad on voidwalker?
basically everything in the game is a monster if you squint hard enough
Max AFK%, mining speed, drop rate, candy dreadlo ore
ill make a preset to swap to then thanks
highest speed skill on highest resource
tyvm
More equinox ressources is nice
can someone help me with party dungeon w2
pizza server 2
thx
the ladles are going faster than I expected
Nobody want to do dungeon w2
I saw some 4000/day.
so can u help with W3
i want to get chievment for damage
I am not in game
oh
you ll be forced to do both by equinox alone eventually
party finder doesnt work
Whats the shiny cap at level 5? Level 6 does nothing?
got first troll obol 
Ahh, thanks - does multiple of the same pet level faster?
Yea 2 voucher start op
im guessing breaking all the stones itself isnt necessarily enough to get to the next stage since i ran into several instances of failing even though i did break every one of them, and maybe had a fail otherwise on the minigames. or just random bugs because dunjun gud
got it eventually but was definitely annoying
ahhh
hi guys, which should i upgrade?
one in killroy at least
if i leave from pet arena after 130 does it still count for cloud or do i gotta wait till my pets die
where to get pop obols?
any tips for this?i thought it was going well but i guess not
just do your usual bubo setup on tremor/ojs, but with at number i doubt you have tent200, CC245, and enough bubble level on the alchemy one
Helps having choco chip with good crystal spawn chance too
guess ill try different things
Tho choco chip prob isnt necessary
Are you using wand or gloves?
wand
Use gloves
Glove meta 
got it thank you
It helps aura which kills faster
Also hot bar should be cranium-raise the dead- aura-ghost
hi guys, what team should i use?
Only 4 talents needed 
Looter, peapod, rediller, borgar. Set and auto
got it thanks.
nooo, i dont have peapod 
wtf is that 2m nug screenshot in #achievement-pics legit?
Didn't even know people were getting shovel up to the range where the top end of it is in the millions
How come my metal detector upgrade did not unlock yet? I finished the task
who is in charge of the wiki? lava?
iirc all lava cares about with wiki is what counts as a spoiler
how do you beat kattlecruk in nightmare with the voidwalker ? its impossible to kill the healers fast enough
Check pins
Oh i thought it was in order
do any cards affect divinity
Just biggie to help get you to double claim cap
oh true ty
hmm
that's one bad wig
guys is it worth it to use stopwatches for the new vials?
Your choice imo
or should they be saved for w6
Imo only rly the first, after that its up to you if its worth it
It's only 24 hours tbf, and I'm pretety sure raids give more later
This gave me a stroke reading it on the wiki
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what he hell happened to it in the 2nd half ๐
Typo ๐
Multiple typos
yesa, i also typo half a sentence
I do have to wonder though... why sigil speed
So we can max them in less than 2 years 
because we desperately needed it
anyone figured out if it's additive yet?
It seems it, though IE and IT dont seem to calc sigil speed correctly
i think it'd be hard to figure out until IT gets updated
Think there will be new sigils
last one is w6 sigil
theres only 1 world 6 sigil so probably more coming
there might be too many systems rn for w6 to add to all of them
Additive
i thought it was multi
But its additive, yes
do you know if shrine vial is additive too?
I don't think so and I hope not
What shrine vial
last equinox bug vial is shrine charge rate
Sec

lava has discontinued several systems and one I could actually get behind are sigils.
Yes it is
I thought that vial increases shrines effects for a second, but its just speed 
wouldnt that be nice
yes
thank you
Looking good
Maybe get some TP logs and roadkill bubble leveled 
Then you can get to 300k
yea my road kill is only 162, so it has a ways to go
ive been slowly pushing lary among others.
Larry to 1100 is the way to go
ive been getting there slowly
now gotta pray for 160
Why doesnโt the deposit button never work in the smith?
Always have to drag and drop my ores in
Never remember that working, but maybe it did and i just dont rly touch it cause of auto arm
Ahhhh thatโs something I donโt use. I just get ores as needed when needed
Bars*
is the new faster respawn from killroy good?
I doubt it will be noticdable until a few weeks of investment
But i see it being pretty good
ppl have already completed that killroy challenge of 2k kills? i wonder what is necessary for that
Anyone try the new tower defense DPS increase per wave boost yet? OP or mid pack?
Op
very good
Just put a single point into it so far gonna have to retry citric conflict
With wat priority should i level the equinox skills? I have all clouds and resources unlocked
Its not something that will uber carry you, so maybe not op
Kraken is cracked
Weekly Bosses embargo still workin, as well as no Divinity Gods and Gaming Imports
i mean the most important thing is being able to hold the mobs right, if you do that successfully them youโre set
the tower defense equinox skill is more quality of life than sheer power - it'll get you ~10% more damage per point on average, but it cuts down time spent killing high wave bosses by orders of magnitude
Ignore the fact that "cuts down time" is more than 75% (for me)
now if only rngesus would allow me to get the new vials from equinox as well <.<
It def allows you to buy more krakens to stall waves infinitely
failed 4 days in a row now for a single one...
Looter, pea, refill, borger
Recommended power?
Also it is Wave 130, don't forget that :P
lava's been doing a bunch of typos lately
yo question, was dk/maestro or es better for killing mini bosses?
assuming they all same dr of about 11 ish?
Hasn't been sleeping well
DK for colo ofc
not colo but summons
Rack up the orb count then kill them, easy free DR
still DK
I had Borger 100k, Refill + Looter 80k, Pea at 60k so not exactly sure. But those went to 144
Why'd you go so far?
Its fun to watch peapod ngl
Was maybe 2 minutes. Just waited for them to die
Plants vs zombies vibes
RIP lava's twitch discord
the good times.
conehead peashooters...
The bad times.
anyone that can come say "hi" to this snake jar for me? Baloon 10
Once I get larry to 501 what is the next bubble i should be atoming??
done! did it work?
i think you should get it to 1100? not sure
waste of atom on early game
2nd bubble and skilling bubbles to get ur hourly prints are not bad to go for
or get better nblb with atoms
what level is a good goal for 2nd bubble and skilling bubbles?
just check for soft caps for now i guess
i already have nblb maxed
i cant tell what to level to aim for
wdym maxed? iam talking about making ur nblb hit the worse bubbles so you get good bubble min
which pets are you using to destroy 100vl arena with 4 of them
crafting these hurt me on an emotional level
Looter refill peapod borger, and you need to beat 130 not 100
whats the point of getting last traps?
i see
so close ๐ฎ
best sigil right there
yeye
big prio sigil
took its time
And arena pet for 100 ๐
I want to do the obsidian statue thing and need to grind the 20k power statues. Any help? where can I get them consistend?
more specifically crystals there with dk
I have not
you can do it wtihout, just takes 4x the time
uff
why would it not be worth it to get onyx even if u dont got choco
time investment wise, depends on their account
i thinks its worth it
Not sure exactly why but my poison has consistently been missing for the past several days, does anyone know how to fix this?
accuracy
I have 900k accuracy
Oh
0 points= 0 damage, and it displays as a miss
That explains it, didn't know that
any1 of these worth it?
Thanks for the info
I just always level them all evenly. lol.
Multikill and weapon power can never hurt but you alr got multikill
The middle column are all useful in some fashion - I think some of the other rotations are better overall
man my critter gains still feel really bad
no idea how I'll clear honker/blobs
gotta get them vman levels up for worship and trapping gains
same
yeah that's the plan
what lvl are we talking?
woship and trap lvls for the vman talent
like what is decent lvls
130 worship 110 trapping is decent already
its not so bad getting to 130s worship
Why do u need so many crabs
another 160 TD beat (unless game crashes lets go
OK that's what I thought
i dont know if its possible to reach 160 on W5 one tho
what will probably help is booking these talents lmao
What lvl is your poison
not that much
Does anyone have that fishing guide handy that shows the holes/attachments to use?
only vman actualy helps with critter gain
can anyone explain to me ideal card setup for money farming on bubbo and what is the best layout (is it citrines/oj bay?)
like, i dont know how the different money bonuses interact. is the 60% from a card just added to the 15000% i have on fungi money thing?
How do I know if the new nugget thing is working
just buy the upgrade
at 6% per nugget, after 17 nuggets your nuggets are double the power they used to be
whats the best way to farm candies
giant mobs weekly, colo 2, crystal island (not much but somthing)
any reeason to keep my beginner trophy?
can just stash it on an alt
dont forget to take off hp curse prayers like midas
whys thast
it fucks with the resource nodes in colo 2 making htem last a long time
ohh ok
if you dont like the pain of 2, can do colo 3 as well for multiple runs in one go
if ur going for shinies sure, but needs to be on the person you claim your traps with
i do but i dont know when i can max it
generally easiest to just keep the prayer on everyone
Why are u doing it on 40 hours?
its a good time for the rift auto claim
Basically yeah, I play around my laziness
Any tips for beating chaotic w5 boss with voidwalker? I have the magma gloves and around 190mil upper dmg
10h is better but I am lazy with my claims, so I use 40h
you've got enough damage for chaos, check the pins for the nightmare guide. Same rules apply for chaos
jk i didnt
whats the best way to grind dungeon xp?
nightmare took me like 80b dmg i think thats when i did it
Hehe
is it worth dropping 50 sailing jars into fury eldritch?
Yeah imo
Only if you get it
what do you guys think is the minimum petpowers i can get to arena 130 with?
prob just need a high borgar, 80k-100k maybe
no need that high
wdym? power?
ye
gimme a sec il check
the peapod strat relies on you surviving long enough for the looter to start proccing constantly to generate eggshells
so you're relying on your borger surviving
peapod goes crzy after a bit
mine didn't start zooming until about wave 100
same
40k borgar is my best
this is the squad i used
what breeding level?
59
wait thats pretty high
may as well spam some white eggs
just open some eggs, u shld get some high rollers
60 unlocks failsafewhich makes unlocking w4 pets super easy
alright il do that
I did the wave 130 with 4 pets with a 52k borger and then 14-25k others
Really not that bad.
yeah, the win condition is just "survive until peapod/looter combo goes mad"
The only real factor is hp to survive a hit
why does peapod go mad after a bit
hmm which should i focus on for this rotation?
I did it with 58k borger, 20 to 30k rest, got to 138
It's a mix of peapod increasing attack speed, looter proccing badum (for more atk speed) and refiller scaling based on atk speed
After enough procs you start instantly filling looter up over and over, which results in you getting all the various buffs applied by the various looter procs - including eggshells
like only 25 burger and it was zoomin
yeah the only risk is if borger doesn't have enough health to take a hit later on
my borgor got hit once to half hp and healed in 1 sec
eggshells caps at I think 90%? So if you take a hit at wave 125 and lose your borger, you're in trouble
There's also the risk if your other pets are low enough, a bouncing axe will kill one
prob just save, mk if ur itchin to spend
I maxed liquid cap because no dragon cauldron 
no need for that now with liquidvestment 
it was not worth RIP
Boys! Help me, I don't understand... What pets should be put on the extraction of spices... I don't understand. Show me and tell me.

did we know equinox fix appear to be red depth?
you're now 600 hours closer to eldritch fury tho
I have no idea what this means
i've seen others say green
fish depth haha
oh lol. Fish not fix
equinox fish are all 4 depths
actually I just had a really weird thing happen with sampling equinox fish.
you build for green as that'll give you the highest sample rate
that explains what just happened then
whats the fastest way to farm a ton of hampters? is active on es or dk worth doing?
es active
I sampled using purple ring, 181k. Sampled with yellow ring, 185. Sampled with red ring, 252k. Sampled without any ring (just rex), and got 618k. huge jump. I must have just gotten the green sample on the last one coincidentally
yeah that's exactly what happened ๐
Take green focused lure/wire and sample until you get the big one
thx. feel dumb not even ever checking afk info. haha
Is bone gear more dmg for vman than the w5 gear
Where is the best spot for cranium cooking?
tremor wurms, ojs, then like hampters/flombs
Alr thanks
what level should what class be before I try farming 20,000 power statues for the monolith quest?
levels have no correlation to pretty much anything besides having more talent points
dk is best active class to farm statues from crystals
Someone got a setup for the round 130 pet arena cloud?
check out one of the pins from trickz on void statues
looter, peapod, refiller, borgar. set and auto
Thank you
his tips involves maxing out crystal based cards and the choco chip, should I wait for those to be achieved before I try getting the 20k?
it is pretty tough without those
U need the chocolate chip
And crystal
will take a lot of investment
just checked on my vman.. only gets to 82% sample rate with the prayer off. so close yet so far away 
aight thx. I'll save it for when the choco chip comes in rotation
not too far off now, can work on your crystal chance stuff in the meantime
only have 10 more shiny pets until i've leveled all of them to at least lvl 5 
God these box statues..
it's a long 3 weeks activing ES in w3, yep
getting all 3 w3 statues is a chore for sure
just realize that once it's done you're finished and your statues are even stronger since you'll have at least 3 more onyx ones to help increase the strength of your other statue drops
That is my mindset atm indeed xD
the saddest thing honestly about getting hard to earn statues to onyx level is realizing that yeah now they are onyx! ...but you lost out on the levels ups that 20k statues would give them 
because screw getting 20k of them again
true true, but then again I am mostly doing it for other statues to get the benefits
Even though getting the lvls from 20k of those would be nice
fastest way to grind 1000m marble?
Print it
is there a guide on how to maximise drop rate?
#1084911530417606656 has a dr chart
Not sure how up to date it is ๐คท
wtf? so you guys just rekt your board setup for this?
spam cogs until you have them stocked up, swap them out, clear quest, swap them back
sounds tedious and awful lol
use first page to craft, put all ones you need on furuther pages and switch them out only to claim, then rebuild your stuff
Guys, if you can't get 100k in cranium cooking, level this skill to the roof, I bumped it up from 128 to 239 and my cranium gain went from 84k to 152k
oh and remember, its the cog with 2, not the cog with 3 
How do you spam cogs again? just active on DK?
Hey guys, just got the Kat god in divinity, does it make sense to keep pushing for the last one even tho both don't have any bonus? Or just farm the points after w6?
Double = 3 
The vial seems like it made the cog build speed a lot faster
Besides the flat build speed I got
build speed(it says rate but worded wrong) should affect everything
TO be fair, the 48 cog dream. Was a good chance to update my Cog board, and get a bunch better cogs
So I am not even annoyed by it :p
boosted my con exp to 9k+%, worth it
tho i also build the wrong cogs at first, so i spammed cogs for a lot longer than you would have to 
Slow :c
pretty slow
how do i get it faster then lol
Very possible to create 1 per second, sometimes more
construction level, build speed, construction level, construction level, putting your squires in cog production, construction level
biggest change is prop con level
so I guess thats big...
313 is pretty low for cons level too
im guessing this is just way too low then to be trying to get the 100k ladle thing? or is just my lack of 2 bbs the main issue
You're getting responses from people with 800+
also if you have rift unlocked, getting over 1250 total building level gives you build speed
with my new cogs, my dk gonna push 1000 in no time 
you need those to finish off quest?
rift 41 helps a lot, but only if you have the building levels for it
Don't forget alch
Is "first half" the top half or the left half
need more dmg and only 1 talent point in flag. the plunderous coins talent is more important to put points in
The challenge says to put the double cogs in the first half
But which half ๐ค
my liquid is full but not increasing the max cap and rate
That's boring, should've been a specific half just to fuck with people
It will not level them, but should accumulate until you click to level
dont blame him, reading is hard, I cant do it myself either
yeah this, and it will skip ahead on levels too if you have more than the next levels banked
dont inrease
increase
greenstack these when
now i use the liquid its not full
what do draconic caldrons do?
think im pulling like 100 ladles /hr ish at my current rate which is... bad. so probably just gonna pull bb back out to work superchows more and then maybe figure out why im bad at ladling
beeg capacity
2400/day is pretty decent
I empty my full 11k capacity twice a day, it sucks. I don't want to Bubo twice.
Or 3 times
for sake of getting to 100k ladles though its awful
100k is awful for everyone
fair lol
gots to get me some of that dooty ๐ฉ
That's really the best way to speed it up, but still a whole week of 9x cooks
Should be faster than that with the insane afk gains you get from doot. Cooking benefits more from doot than most other things
Endgame dooters can get 4k a day on a single BB
honestly how do u guys get high damage on vman
guess im gonna push hard to get that cogga thing goin so i can do more equinox content heh
big source a lot of people seem forget is page 3 the 2nd skill from top, make sure some skill is not capping your potential damage hard by being way underskilled
I haven't thought about void bars in months
can u green stack a statue?
sadly 
trapping at 53...
well, time to up that, gonna be lots of fun upping trapping 
...im not excited
Does afk gains matter when placing traps or only efficiency?
only eff, afk% dont do nothing
reset
45k -> 57k -> 87k
i went from 50k to 80k, but i havent spend too much time on nugget farming yet
tho i would be curious what @signal osprey has now nugget wise
I havent actually gotten an increase again somehow
My min nugget is over 20k so I probably should have gotten something by now
can someone help with party dungeon w2
new update makes everyones nugget go brrrr
yst i put only 1 lvl into nugget dream and in just 30 min i got new higher nugget
before that I had not gotten a bigger nugget in like half a year
for the flag score in rift do you guys auto loot the coins?
or pick up all at once?
can someone help with party dungeon w2
I'd get rid of your cloud discover captains for sure

Same
Replace the discovery rate captains
Discovery rate is shit
how are you all getting such high nuggets. is there a way to push them faster?
Just crashed my whip into a tree now Iโm stuck at home with Idleon. What should I focus?
is there ever a point where you'd want buildrate% over exp% directional cogs?
anyone know where the equinox spoilers are?
Look at it this way, Discovery rate is such a singular purpose. Once you aren't discovering clouds its a wasted stat. You get the same benefit sorta out of boat speed, but that is usefull afterwards.
Not really, since XP gives BR over time.
Also the vial is a lie, the vial is nto BR but actually Build Speed, which affects all the con stuff (br, xp and flag rate)
I think the recommendation in general is to focus on Loot value/Boat speed
ah thanks! I was wondering about that yesterday since my exp jumped up by like 2x or 3x instantly
Thats 3rd
Speed and Loot to be able to upgrade your ships and maintain short times on higher islands to not get bottlenecked
At the end its all about good base stat captains, so if you have a decent artifact chance captain it's still good
You just need/want a bunch of good loot/speed captains to get to higher islands at min time and also get those resources in bulk easier as with the trader that;ll be a huge source of Gold bars which in turn is more boat/captain slots again
My highest speed is about 250k and I only have up to the fourth island
wtf
You should always be exploring the next cloud(s) with one of your fastest boats
this sign can't stop me because i cant read
If you are purely working from left to right trying to get all artis(ancients) without unlocking the upper stuff, you will 100% bottleneck yourself
I try to get all the artifacts first

Exactly what I'm doing
Yeh then you will run into the issue of having your 2-3 fast boats able to do the later mid content and the other half being useless over time as they cant maintain speed
Second boat is about 70k speed, 3rd is 50k and the last one is the base speed because I need 7th island for that
I should probably explore other islands now
At this point im worried to say, but you know there's a scroll bar at the bottom to buy up to 20 ships?
(same with captains)
I've got all the islands unlocked but I need to get a few more artifacts. I've currently got my boats spread it so each island has at least one boat visiting, but it's not optimized.
I have 12 ships and 12 captains for now
should I focus on replacing captains with better ones?
Never hurts
I've got about half of them as those pirate hat dudes, tier 3 I think? But none lower than that at least
tier is irrelevant, only the stats matter
okay, was just saying, because yeh if you only have 4 islands and boats that fast its eh
Tried to replace any of the cloud discovery guys since I don't need that
Base Stat x captain level = total stat.
Tier of captain is irrelevant as cactus said
I miss clicked, it was 5 
there's a list of captain stats right?
even 5 seems low with a 250k boat with 5th island is only like 3k distance..
Man I just cant kill the mega monster in rift :/
You could be doing Island 9 (300k distance) and go for fury, one of the most important artifacts...
Click quick slap a bit
anyways, can bring a horse down to the lake but cant make it drink ๐
wOW

I'm really dumb aren't I
I'm gonna go change that now
Thank you for your help
Rasha, so 200 GS, thats every mob mat minus rares, every res.. how many quest items?
forgot all foods/potions pretty much too
I'm on 156 and have nearly all that and like 60-70% of food/pots :/
im barely 76, i was just trying to figure out if i was going to have to do stuff like ketchup and mustard or if its possible without
I've seen some ppl greenstack the easy statues
since it would be faster than most quest item things
the S is my active DK who gets butchered rates b/c active
the P is the primary DK
moral dillema:
should I replace the %playercons directional cogs in the red outline with just the regular 100~%exp cogs in order to better boost my primary DK?
not a terrible idea once i actually get choco chip
Honestly i never focused on that but i would say to always focus the non active dk, all xp into that, highest level = higher cogs
time to check mine now xD
So for Vman basically kruk set is better at all times compared to magma because of dr and respawn...
Technically depends on what you're doing on him
basically it's trading 150% playercons on the active DK for 150% xp on the non-active DK
Even when skilling it doesnt matter
I mean, if you struggle with NM, magma will net more dmg.
Obv sacrificing the DR, could do Kattle head/feet with magma top/legs to maintain more dmg and the DR for example
how do you have 22 sprout cap?
But overall most cases or near all cases, purely kattle on vman is good.
Yeah i did nm kruk on him either way and the wing farming is still far away i think, not rushing that unless his dmg gets boosted to Ts
Only need around 200b+ to full auto nm kattle on vman
But yeh, if u got the kill done and are waiting for later, just get full kattle gear
I'm at 140B now
didnt max your fists?
Now im leveling it so not enough points for fists. But yeah with fists should be close to 200
Here were some stat breakdowns vs fist levels:
#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message
Keep in mind the 278/314b first tests that needed 1+ mk active ability to go off were without maxed fists
Yeah also with full dr build
You should also look at their nugget, very real, much wow 
eh, I guess it's basically irrelevant
S: 9602M // P: 33B (3x directional cogs w/playercons%)
S: 9483M // P: 33B (3x standard 115%xp cogs)
Im thinking after equinox alch 11 uograde maybe try out the dmg one
Did anyone tried the +10% dmg was it multi or strong enough?
Cactus so you put cons obols on passive dk?
it's multi, but damage is the least valuable thing from equinox (except lab)
Apparently pretty strong for the dmg, but at the same time more than enough sources to get the dmg and not worth it for something as basic as nm kattle.
no, this is replacing 3x of my directional cogs with 3x regular cogs to get more exp on the non-active DK
Indeed, dr is also relevant also as tower 5 upgr
Only situation i would see it recommendable as an earlier priority* is someone really close to superchowing and wanting to boost it just a bit, but even then, other things would net more value
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Random:* Oh just had weekly reset 10mins ago
https://i.imgur.com/W3gRSw3.png
Things I greenstacked
11 quest items
8 craftable items
all mob materials
all skill resources
all anvil production
Bar stack up to lustre
All critters (no shinies)
All souls
All crystal based drops (potions, leaves, food)
Blue Salt
w4-5 Shop items (food, oil, potions)
Red Frisbee
Things that can be greenstacked, but I couldn't/didn't
2 Salt (red, orange)
Dogbones
6 Statues (the rest are much more time consuming)
Bonemeal
Cracked Hourglass
W2-3 Shop items (requires a lot of time, i've you been doing this awhile it makes it easier)
Saucy Logfires (requires a lot of red potions, which are limited drop sources)
Average Life Potion (limited drop sources)
oh my word... ok, thank you for sharing
so i just reached world 5 whats things i should instantly start doing?
The quest in w5 (to start gaming and sailing), then divinity on all but 1 alt. See pins for divinity details.
If im missing something, feel free to tell me ๐ There is a lot
How is to to greenstack the regular skill foods, i see the logfire comment but what about the other ones?
thats so much stuff.. Geez
200 Stacks is also a lot
Soon!
I didn't do critter noms or soulbuble because.. water lol. Those and logfries only ones
Might be worth writing down the extra things like bullets, and may be helpful to (list) the quest items like Sub/cloud/duck kinda thing
"easy" ones you could still do is some of the statues
are you already on 200 or just close to it?
ya im poking around contemplating doing that now
Rashaken can you link your IE?
I think the max is around ~220 greenstacks, but a lot of those are going to be measured in months of time needed
At 200
What is/was your red frisbee sample at, and on who? just vman void run?
trying to find image sec
I see a 209 atm
thats new sample
I greenstack it much lower
~50 something. Took Just over the relic cap to hit 10m
so much easier for you all ๐
can someone help with party dungeon w2
rash with only 107% laaarrryyy ๐
Help in what sense? if its for the Equinox Dream, u need to do it solo
There we go, it was exactly 50 when i greenstacked. Took 84 days total.
This was pre doot, so with omni procs much much less
void sample
oh gotcha
Rough,84 days excluding vman 3dprint?
ah nvm
Im not wasting atoms on it, so I do hourlies from time to time. I play how I enjoy, not the most efficient/meta ๐
I am by no means the player to study if you want to be truly optimal
my Larry is higher than rashaken 
When youre that far you gotta protect your enjoyment
What w5 upgrades should I buy ?
Gem shop
Aight thx
Forgot to add ||doot|| 
Is there a pinned list of everything that golden stopwatch updates to consider? Fourth day in a row using full drop trick on equinox marble with no luck. Looks like I'm going to be using golden stopwatches for more chances
dont think I have access to endgame channel. thought I did all the steps for every channel but must not have
what is the full drop drop for equinox marble?
Gilded Stamp and Hydrogen discount
Boron clicks
Island bottles, trash island and crystal island
Snail mail
Shop, post office and key/colo reset
NBLB
Dr Defacus and Boops
Spice claims
Sailing captains
Random Event
Daily guild tasks
Retry w2 boss battle
Picnic stowaway
+1 day to minibosses
+1 day to gold relic artifact
Spike trap minigame
Auto trap collect (if traps are ready)
Guaranteed crystal spawns
Quickly drop stacks of 1 Item on the Cauldron. I usually do 16 Stacks aka 1 Page full of the Item you want the Vial for
is The last bonus from Enhancement ecplipse possible ? since we are 5points short
So this skill is specifically for BM trapping exp?
Apparently also Idle Skilling cooldown for codes
that game isnt real, it cant hurt me
For 100 trapping on all chars? ๐ the void i mean
at current rates it still takes a long time to get a non-vman past 100
expensive boi
It isnโt as optimal, but it isnโt worthless
vman, exp trap, happy guy, transfusion, exp goes brr
Hey whay is floms?
Ohhh
Is it one of the best spot to farm cranium with bubbo?
best spot depends on your damage output really
Its what I read somewhere
Wurms and citringes in w5 are better, but not if you can't kill them very fast
cans in w4 if your damage at floms is too low
I claimed the new equinox star talent, from the cloud one, but I dont have it on other characters, anybody know a fix?
Are there any sources to decrease the time to 20?
rebooting the game will fix it
any source of library increase will do it. time til 20 is just an estimate based on your speed
Um, any in particular?
Is there a guide on trapping? In tips and tricks?
Feeling like im due to redo these...
Updated them up
Which 4 peta do you use for cloud challenge? Best I could do was 98
Borgor looter refil peapod
Ok, so i just need to change drums for peapod, thanks
You should be able to do it easily with that setup
Thanks all, much appreciated 
yo
Is there a way to see how much you have this stacked up?
Upgrading it resets the multiplier apparently as well
Canโt confirm that tho as I havenโt tested it
Hi @tacit tulip
We'll see
Bummer/
trapping is slowly catching up
my vman is getting that dmg finally
just over 300b now
yo that's lot of skill lvls
Ok, I had my doubts, but suddenly they started shooting really fasr
Yea looter/ refill op
Didn't know peopod can make such a difference
So after 100 I can just leave?
Ok, I see that the next one is for 130,could have stayed
soon enough though he's changing it
either way if you're doing it now then go to 130
them poisons gonna be mowin' through mobs soon enough 
Best td set up with slow roast?
more krakens
same builds as before really

krakens to hold the line, poisons
oh really? that's annoying i'm stuck on others atm
it only counts cardified ones
this is what i'm stuck on. almost done with the chems
what a joke LMAO
the cog one is pretty quick
oh i mean a totally innocent mistake ๐ 
Can you checkout max level VIP book with automation arm?
tbh I believe it being a mistake, there's not nearly been enough cardifiers to clear it
i have terrible luck. i have only pulled 7 doubles since starting that one the day it came out 
and i played cog clicker for roughly an hour last night
waste of time
how do I change the 2nd link for my ES in div?
not enough yet ๐ 
note: level 0 is always considered "off" for any skill. it'll say snek, but won't give you the buff
doing this bad boy would you guys just put a few guys cooking?
I have 9 doing it lmao
Yeah, also doing colosseum helps
True! didnt think about that
Imagine having doot
I could go for a doot ๐ข
gotta reset if u pull doot
only if your ladle gains are high enough, otherwise I wouldnt bother
I mean, you get more ladles by doing colo rather than leaving your DK at the kitchen
probably the warriors only
I think both my BB's are around lvl 60 cookinh
Level doesn't matter
What matters is your cooking eff and ladles per hour
thatโs so much
Doesnโt lvl gives efficiency
and it's not even the hardest equinox unlock
Are we sure it's not a typo? There have been several typos so far in this
I am kinda hard stuck on a lot now ๐ฆ
Stamps give efficiency
but also level no?
tbh, its 100% damage on top of another 110% damage. Is it really worth it to slave for it with more than bb?
like all of these are pretty rough
200 greenstack and 2k killroy, no clue how I am gonna finish that
lvl 500 at least only takes time, but the rest, uhhh
Cooking level only is for mastery
killroy, unlock killroy 4 and spend some points in it - a good mage week will get you 2k
^
whats the 4th killroy upgrade ?
On my dk I got around 900 on poops
respawn speed
ohhh
It's pretty pog
I broke 1k on my DK this week at poops
I want so much respawn so it's 5 mobs/sec
with 2 points in respawn
