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dk
gotcha
lazy
I accidentally cleared 7 jobs doing it lol
just rolling horn off rip was good enough for w3?
yeah
I did buy stuff when walking to bosses and the like
but it was all white orbs
dope ill smack that next
do some challenges to buy the buffs in the top right corner helps
anyone got early setup for w5 tower defence
yeah I didn't figure that out until after I killed the boss, those are strong π
it's about the journey, Knort
since its solo, definetely just leave until horn (if r40+)
One thing to remember is that w3 dungeon was added before frog 4, so it's easier than frog 4 is
its about the journey knort the destination
I did frog and snek on my vman... xd
I am notoriously lazy
those lenses says otherwise!
a true hero
this one upsets people π
I actually haven't done that either for some reason
I just got this one like last week cuz I was clearing bank space and made another one...
Too many people cant do that Trials achievement xD
New class going to have a talent like transfusion but for move speed xD
bet
Gain x% dmg but lose x% move speed.
nah. its gonna be defense
People running around with 5% move speed... or.. crawling around
gain x% defense lose move speed. and the class gon damage scale off defense main stat
prolly a movespeed prayer
Who was it with the 4k FMJ bubble? finally going to pay off xD
camp

should i do something about this mid W5? chow count is 15.
cooking level is forever meh
at most you'll be looking at balooning each char up to 50 for the 500 mastery
but there's not a huge rush to do so
that's whart i though. ty
Money multi for bubo and dk
that's the main thing aye
that reminds me, I have enough baloons to get everyone to 50
should knock that out real quick
Pearls first 
https://i.imgur.com/ogyKY3A.png
after reorganizing my cogs, at least my mistake was not a total waste, construction XP goes BRRRR
thats fat
hello do you have any tips to get the 20000 power statues to unlock onyx statues
DK, crystal chance, Drop rate, beans
wait until you have high crystal + cookie
choco chip + beans w1
thanks you I will try this out
wow IS looks like a shit Beta of idleon, i had no idea they overlapped so much
his art has improved A LOT
yeah, you can kinda guess what skills are coming by looking at the existing ones
almost all IE skills are based on IS ones lol
(the breeding equivalent is somehow even worse)
Didn't learn any lessons on egg shells vs dead dna
I guess, thankfully, we only have 1 kind of dead dna, not 6
Sailing is just spelunking lite - glad that didn't get fully ported over
Was so maddening to need the base eggshells but everything insta-tiered up to purple
so what do you think will be adapted from IS into world 6 of idleon ?
We're yet to see a proper gardening/farming
So I think something like that will happen
I hope not π¦

Cooking kinda works like the potion making side of things
if it turns out like gaming, please noooo
Alchemy is the close cousin to Apoth
portals are just shrines but automatic so I think we're safe there
Conquests I think are something that could be adapted and not be terrible
how do i get codes in IS, it will tell me ingame?
Training > Gym > Button in the bottom left for IdleOn
muchas gracias amigo

Gaming is the best skill in idleon 
is the bonus that good ?
i thought you where also hard stuck at sub 100k nugget for months
bruh
pulling up 17 nuggs is the same as doubling your shovel level in gaming
time max it out, im still on fk 51k nugg
the benefits are huge
I was a bit skeptical at first but it's really a case of just spamming nuggs
Same. I knew it would be good but wasnt sure exactly how good
But this is just absurd
How long is it taking you to get to this point? I'd expect regularly getting 100k nuggs to take like a thousand nuggs. Is it multipicative with itself instead of additive?
Its additive
I'm not quite at the point of regular 100K+ that pic was still fairly lucky
ahh right
yknow, lava lets us be stuck at bad nuggets for half a year and then makes all the regular shovel clicking be obsolete in a single update, I mean, its good that rng no longer will screw you
still, I feel cheated
OK is there a strategy to beat the weekly boss
Don't worry you still have a lot of shovel clicking to do
I've pulled at least a thousand nugs so far today to make this happen
oh boy
I just have kitsune on cycling for chems
Cog clicker is dead. Chems are the future
does the 1st equinox bubble increase fill rate?
I saw someone on reddit with 251/hr with barely any unlocks...which is somehow more than mine despite being on dream23 and maxed liquid vial?
IS unlocks wayy too much waayyy to fast, im getting hit by like 10 feutures at once. Im glad he improved this slightly for idleon, but honestly id say idleon suffers from the same mechanic overload issue, especially now that portal progression is much easier
clearing challenges gives various buffs including fill rate yeah
not all of them do, but many do
there's also the alchemy vial
but they're on dream5 and I'm on dream20+ with like 200% increased fill rate
but their speed is more than mine???
There is also the paid bundle that gives increased Equinox Bar rate
ohhh maybe that's it
The green mush dethnote challenge is just totally bugged right? It let me clear it with ~3 billion.
yeah, noone tell lava
lucckkkyy
Take it where I can get it
Has anyone actually crafted a Luckier Lad yet?
a few
given lavas track record with missing 0's I bet he set it to 100mil not 100bil
my assumption
Could also be like the Arena requirement, where he changed the code but not the tooltip after feedback
I'm going to have to consider clearing out some of my rings before I can save up enough lucky lads.
100 Bil is less a pain than 500 on all character ahha
500 is practically impossible compared to 5000 total π
he could fix the 5 star card dream tho, annoying that its bugged
Yeah I saw that one, isn't it only counting ones that are cardified?
Yeah that one has to be fixed
Even if you could, you can't buy that many. And even if you could do that, thats a bigger scamaz than doot
Looks like I have 117 ruby cards, if he does get around to fixing it 
tho blue gem are free
yeh, bloody annoying, could be another ez dream done but no
I would buy as many cardifiers as he lets me honestly
I'm tempted to do the nugget but also have 0 purpose after unlocking T7 already :/
lol, 31k
then I would
Didn't I hear it was possible to get to the final superbit now because of the big nuggets?
Got to T7 unlock with a 20kish
2 islands left - Do I pick crystal or Fractal?
Crystal
Fractal so useless
Idk someone said that a person with 25 snail and 400k nuggget mathed out that it would take them several months kinda thing..
dont think last bit will be viable until we get another modif for gaming
Yep, I took fractal 4th. Big mistake
Ah. Well, we will still be here in several months anyway. May as well π«‘
bigger issue is snail 25.
been preparing all your life for this moment π
any worship guide
New nugget bonus will have us in the 10s to 100s of million nugget within like a month or two tops
i feel so justified rn π
misclicked reply lol xD
rip beat me to it

ty
you're still here....?
whats your cycle speed?
1.6m
snail 25?
22
Get 25
I'm scared 
https://i.imgur.com/0eS2531.png
lets do it together, then it wont be quite as scary
Still pretty scary ngl
Just gotta stack those letters xD
https://i.imgur.com/1iWkHmh.png
I go first and report back
what's the strat at that level? slam 1 until you get 5 in a row? π
so many letters
The odds for end-game snail are so crushing
Always yolo 
againnnnn ahah
I summon elmo to ask the RNG gods for assistance
Thats why i have letters, not going to hit that upgrade again.. 
Hey, at the very least it doesn't reset to 0 anymore
Yas
That one poor dude with the best gear in-game:
https://i.imgur.com/F4rtmZJ.png
@signal osprey forget everything I said, dont do it, only regrets

I'll click my snail again when I get 100 mail
that took courage ahhaha
Maybe 200
That's what i said, but 100 is not enough xD

Although when i mathed it out getting to T7 was a few weeks, was worth the wait and taking it slow
Actually no I'll do it when I get my 1 million nug
Summon the power of RNG
Anyone know with Equi Nug...
If you claimed 50 ngugets at 1%, then upgrade it to 5%. will it math it as 50x5% ? i would assume right?
@signal osprey if you pass level 22 of snail I'll expand the red panda anime girl empire
Within the next minute
I definitely get the legendary 1m nug in the next 48 hours if the chems keep coming the way they have been 
After that its snail gamba time
wheres the best place to farm lucky lad
yea thats what im wondering too is is better to summon mutiple small amounts of nug or a 20 nug summon will have the same outcome
what cog is this?
Most people candy dreadlo
purple with 2 cogs
Multiple small. Storing many nuggets at once increases the time between nuggets
The mechanic is just spam as many nuggets as you possibly can until you win
thanks
you are a lot smarter than me I see, bothering to read the text and asking if you are unsure
I've done more nuggets in the past day than I have in the past probably 6 months now lol
i'm not USA Character π’
ahahah aight
Why? Because you've decided to finally stop having fun? π
I dare you to change your pfp
Its more fun now though
Gaming actually feels satisfying now that the things I do in it matter
Go do a TD, come back after results
whats my pfp XD
Take a wild guess π
I dare you to crop your pfp correctly
No π I'm evil
profile picture ?
any tips for this dream ? pinned chat or somehting ?
Welcome to the cult! I uhh mean group! π
all hail the great
trickz single handedly populating the "new content" guides these days π

True
RIP BigMac
game please :<
This was mine π¦
Whats your mk?
How do I check my Vman to see if a crystal mob lowered xp to lvl etc?
IE and toolbox
from 1200% to 1500%
Yeh so your odds havnt really been bad at all yet...
MK doesnt contribute to drops (besides the base drop)
you can also pre-level a skill to like 40%, then do the 60% reduction and it'll auto level up
Kinda, there's also a 2ndery strat to CCR
let's start with the basics for now π€£
More detailed example is here:
#lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ message
Is there a best map to do this on?
citringe or molti if you have high enough damage
I'd just do highest map so vman also gets xp. Although highest mob count maps as well (like wurm) are great, so your aoe kills all mobs, more chances at crystals and less downtime
or sand castles lol
Since stuff like citringe/moltis if your crystal rate isnt great you end up with more downtime
Just don't do sand giants
for more critters its on bm and for more exp on vman right
Also different traps, royal vs nature.
aighht gotta work on those gstack
oh noo lvl 500 on all characters
This TD money is rollllling
https://i.imgur.com/3WyyCML.png
its teasing me
gimme a damn upgrade already
Cant wait to get 5 points into TD buff and start on that myself 
I wonder if its possible to get glublin 170 now
So anyone else not getting the added 1% from the nugget thing?
TD W1 Glublin
probably? idk im on 160 atm
67 poison, 200% dmg, 5% equinox
https://i.imgur.com/4J7PKFP.png
Its added to the nuggets you roll not the one you currently have
If you keep rolling more nuggets you'll notice them start getting bigger
Seeing those nugget rolls, im just tempted to max it for the fun
it still takes ages to upgrade even maxed
im 255k nugget and still not one upgrade yet since update
I'm on a 30k nugget 
ull get them pretty fast then
Had a 20k to unlock t7 mutations with
im not sure how he did the whole 6% thing, cause it doesnt seem to increase 6% each time at all, lol
If you can clear 160 at those numbers yeah I think 170 might be doable then with my numbers 
It does but its hard to tell because the nuggets are so variable
it doesnt increase from lowst nugget chance thats for sure, cause ive already done over 400 digs
change the captain i can get for someone of those 4?
i shouldve hit my new nugget already if it worked on lowest nugget value
just remember on wave 8 or 9s's to just spam next wave then root pretty soon
that way your poison wont reset dmg as often
still no triple mail yet π
What in the name of Denzel Washington is this shit
my average rolls atm are still 13-30k with a 100k+ every 30 rolls or so lol its increasing very very slowly
400 x 6% is only 2400%. I would assume your min nugget is between 300 and 400 and increasing that by 2400% wont get you to 255k lol
so idk how hes done the math on the nuggets, i guess its a 6% increase in nugget luck rather than nugget value or something
anyone got a screenshot of a decent critter amount on royal / bm
for 20 min and 10 hours
I sadly didnt manage it, just lost. too many mobs and too little dmg, couldnt really kill them :/
Hey did you ever finish that spreadsheet for the alch mats?
if thats how it works then its gonna take thousands lol
Which part? it's always shown all the mats
Oh just in general. I would love to have a copy of that
Its additive with itself
As it was it was fantastic
Well thats why I said you still have to get lucky with this
Just less lucky than without it
Alchemy Bubble Material Cost Image:
https://i.imgur.com/wfCQcvZ.png
But thats assuming you only get min rolls though
Feel like thereβs another pin incoming
Lets say you roll a nugget that would have been 5k without the buff
You would need a much smaller bonus for that to be a new max
Oh holy @tall horizon, bless us with thou pintification
Damn then i really need to rework my document and just post the whole thing soon -,-
Updated it with the index
It makes planning for alch so much easier
Rather than clicking through the dang nodes or clicking them in IE
Just remember everything π€·ββοΈ
Agreed, thats why i made it, but i should rather post and have it pinned in W2 chat
#newplayer-chat-w1πw2β³ message
sigil rate is 2.5 per hour now ?
Faster than that when you factor in the sigil for sigil speed and any gem shop purchases you have
My vial rolls are betraying me
out of curiosity - what are you sampling with your bm?
Might need to jump on steam and do the ol shift drop
Gem shop alone gets 3 per hour iirc
Not sure on the current max rate though as I dont know how the vial interacts with the other bonuses
But even if everything is additive its still probably like 6 per hour at least
i like that construction vial boosted my con so fast π
when does the gem shop limited offers change?
Whenever lava feels like giving new ones
flies, it's about 50% of SB
are the wings in limited offer worth gambling for?
any particular reason? just cause of the agi?
cause everything else is dog π
i have no wings atm
it's a random pair of wings. Not the ones shown
most are bad but u can get lucky
Honestly not worth it if you don't have all the S tier gem shop purchases
Tab 1 efficiency skill applies to specialized skills and catching is an archer skill so BM gets efficiency in it
thanks game
Anyone else still hanging on to 10 Death wish rings and 10 frisbee rings?
I'm trying to declutter my chest in order to store up lucky lads
prbobably got 2 whole chest page full of scrap like taht ahah
anyone still holding on to the legendary null skillbook
I've got about 3 and half with unique otherwise uncraftable wearables
ahaha im jsut scared lava wake up 1 morning and make and craftable item using 10 frisbee ring ahah
Thats why I've hoarded them. I know the second I actually dump them some troll recipe will come along
lava is rising my anxiety level evry new patch
Its almost here 
all those nuggets are bigger than the one I currently have 
what's your guys' equinox fill rate?
353
Since i got goat and put 6 characters into lab, im kinda lost on what should i be focusing on. Could anyone just point out which things are huge increases which will snowball my gains and damage? Besides the normal alchemy stamps etc
I'm actually getting fomo for the pack...the 50% rate sounds tasty 
luckiest lad when?
Collect 75 luckier lads
fully expect this to happen one day tbh
I tho the same dude...
50% drop chance? Holy moly ok
Divine is 45
42
42%
time to start collecting luckier lads 
Ok 42 w/e
with gem pack+doubler it's about 20% Dr difference
but the +5% luck is nice for vman, and maybe for just regular grind why not use luckier kinda thing
So lluckier lad is better then since damage doesn't mean much
Aside from alch and stamps the only notable damage bonuses I can think of are eclipse skulls and sailing artifacts
People say alch and stamps for a reason because thats what the game is all about tbh
Time to farm 750 lucky lads and find space for them since they still don't stack...
This is for when you strat Divinity, but still vlaid:
W5 is the ideal time to backtrack and do stuff like this to name a few:
https://imgur.com/c1RhPXA
Things to add
- Equinox
- Better Samples/3D print -> Alchemy/Stamps.
- Setup everyone with base gear.
No chance I farm 10 of that trophy lol
Why does it feel like it'd be way easier to farm 75 lucky lads than farm for wings and amulet
I get 2 or 3 tops
Fair, but it feels like you progress so slowly upgrading those bubbles one by one especially without atom collider and good cc times
Then its back to the filter
the trick is to focus bubbles you can do easy (log, ore, fish, bugs, mob mats) and spam them up while the lab buffs the harder ones
Any cc guides?
dont rush me, im working on it π¦
Also gotta remember what kind of game you're playing. This is an incremental game not an rpg. The progress isnt meant to be super fast
I've been playing over a year now and still have a long way to go
Main thing is mob order is usually roughly this, based on if you can 1 shot them etc.:
https://i.imgur.com/lUz3gZn.png
What in the fuck is that chat ring...
Just got the giant ad banner for the new pack
10% allstats baby...
Is there like
A one w/ more info
Wait wtf, my DK only has 700b damage? Thought I'd got everything over 1T since my bubo is at 1.3T
vman 1T before dk? 
Oh god no, my vman is at like 70B
Yall dont have more damage on vman than DK 
yeah I was just messing with him, obviously he meant the proper classes π
does the equinox nugget buff affect the nugget luck? or is it just a multiplier
Vman is made for skilling not killing
it's a multiplier - tho so is luck really
Not afaik, thats why ive been working on a spredsheet for it. But if you just Ctrl+F some key terms you can usually find a lot of info.
like:
#lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ message
I guess the difference being if it's luck, then it's additive with the existing luck stat -> completely overshadowing the import upgrade
vs. if it's a separate multiplier, it's more of a synergistic thing
it's separate yeah, big numbers
you can spam them out
Bruh
lol what are you even hitting to get those odds
Oh there's no cards for the new resources I take it?
Well i got all that done and get a whole respawn every 0.8-2sec and only got 200k, so what am i still doing wrong. I got the cc bubble at 84
ah right, yeah
That's the equnox ore
You can only afk 2 mins in the map, no cards, but if you DO drop a card it seems to be the latest resource (like dreadlo for ore)
anyone know how to do dream #27
Can you not candy?
but you can print
which ones that
1 billion of any item
How have people got max stacks of them already, god damn
In fact how did they get it day 1
nothing says you can't sample
Oh, that makes sense
If I sample these things that means I have to redo all my samples though... bleh
im holding off till my next resample, doesnt seem super urgent to get them yet unless im missing something
I haven't sampled in... 4 months? Maybe more lmao
gaiinz
the construction one is S-tier, as it's like 300% build speed (therefore con exp)
cc bubble at 84 isnt much.. isnt much at all..
Also other stuff is things like crystal rate, choco chip etc.
also you can get like 200+% equinox bar fill from the vials as well
yeah but ive not managed to roll any of the new vials yet, so no hurry XD but point taken
ah fair enough
Is the p2w fill rate multiplicative with other sources? π€
I've had pretty bad luck with the equinox vials too
which ones best to get first vial wise?
seems to be
I get 420k+ seconds and i have:
https://i.imgur.com/1SOouOs.png
Wait actually? That's hillarious
p2w is normally its own multiplier, but dont know for sure since i dont have it
First vial for bar fill rate, then 3rd vial, rest is whatever
my speed is about 350, and I saw someone at the same progress range with about 200
Obviously vial differences at play too, but looks like it does
Vial, and vial multi from rift
how does 112% lower cooldown work? shouldnt reductions cap at 100%
Also same progress in terms of same quests
it's seconds per second. 1 second = 2.12 seconds of cd
That 10% alll stat chat ring just casually gave my DK almost 100b damage, nbd
ah got it thanks
most multipliers like that work that way (like kitchen spice costs)
This is getting out of hand 
I think it's actually like
100k cd
112%
100k/2.12 = 47k seconds cd
Change numbers based on original CD
Oh it's actuallly like real easy to get the snake vial to 100% chance now too I bet
It's free talent points
if only...
tragic π
I dont think gaming gives talent points does it?
w4/5 skills don't give points, no
You say gaming is getting out of hand as if cons didn't get there a long time ago
Thing with con though is that you need the levels to do anything
on that note, just realised my bubo crusade means much less build rate 
I thought it counted, but didnt xD
Gah I really don't want to have to be subjected to getting a party together for HH but I really need it to finish the flurbo equinox quest 
equi dreams are solo
Not the first 1
oh really?
Max 5 fllurbo shop stats
Ah that one
Just need the flurbo
thought you meant kill 4th boss xD
clicked through it so fast i didn't even remember that dream existing π
dungeon neglecters in shambles
Can it be that if i have over 75 lucky lads it just stops dropping?
Nope, that would be very random programming for no reason at all
For some reason didnt got any more lucky lads for almost a week, also checked my filter...
I don't even have all the opals, dungeons are the worst
Still got my copium on max that HH becomes solo-able
Hell I straight up don't have a single persephone
U need to work on that fo sure
You outlasted that one
Nah
Toss on prayer, join or create R40+ teams in #party-finder-πͺ
I do it on DK2 and have a dg card preset on him
I got that far without persephone (and that's llike 4-5 months old sample), I can survive a bit longer
what's HH?
happy hour
ohhhh, yeah that would be grand
Do you think that Lava forgot that there are 3 more tabs worth of recipe space on the task unllock page?
I don't get the problem, just go to the dungeon, click find party, carry some lucky noobs, done
π
Over here with 200 unlocks just waiting
There's gotta be w6 and w7 recipes still
And then maybe some secret equinox recipes
I loved the secret of merging both Divine trophy with luckier lad trophy for the luckier divine trophy. was a nice addition
I feel like that w4 page came super late into w4 though, probably the same again
I haven't gotten nearly that far in equinox yet
Nah that came with w4 launch
Oh lol sorry im just messing around xd
Aw, so there's no luckier lad?
Starfire toolls have been create-ablle since w4 launch, and that is where those recipes exist
i mean the merging of 2 trophies
Oh well where do I get the recipe for luckier lad then?
Maybe it just took me a while to unlock the anvil tab then or something, idk
hello w5 people, td tomorrow
are we about to see 200?
New Sample. Still ways to go for 1B 
Probably, I had more than enough spare unlocks when w4 came out to get them all
I've got enough to unlock all 3 unimplemented recipes atm assuming they would all have the same amount as the previous ones
Idk, I assume they get incrementally more expensive
Swapped something and got even more 
The task board recipes were 1 trophy per recipe, it's the trophies that got harder to get each time
Oh, yeah, then I should have it in the bag too, 2-3 times over
"Unlocks" not trophies
Has a trophy icon beside it
What were the important Wood Samples for Hourly Clicks?
Oak, Bleach, Tundra, Alien, Toilet? What else?
It does, but the w2 weekly boss battles actually have a currency called trophies.
nice gainz
But most of us are still denying it's existance
how hard is it to kill 4th grandfrogger by myself?
This can help you visualize it better:
#lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ message
and few messages below were some helpful bubbles to click (with an icon on them)
I just did it and it took me 2 or 3 tries to get good enough rng. My dungeon stats are maybe around 60% maxed except for damage is maxed
very easy, feels easier than in some teams tbh.
you can also exit and reenter easily until you get a Horn for all these dg challenges
is horn necessary or does it just make it way easier?
Pink headband in the trophy shop is such a huge troll
why my defeat grandfrogger challange doesnt complete when i finish dungeon ?
Did u defeat all 4?
And u need to do it solo
U need to do it solo. Not in a party
did i just missread XD
Yep
Oh god why is this arcade rotation so bad
More agi
it is of, not or -__-
The newbies will be pumped for the %acc
How do you decide what char to active?
by what you need to do
yes
What are you trying to accomplish
What u need?
I've almost maxed alchemy via cauldron levels and w5 bubbles..
Not sure if I should main ES to gather supplies or vman to farm crystals to gain skills
My goal right now is to get all my chars full magma
Maxed alchemy, thatβs a good joke
Do you have food prints with vman being the highest level?
Food print?
In the speed run
yea I know
No I mean for like your wood and such do you have prints taken with vman having the highest skill level so you get the right hand bonus
I meant skilling levels - to get vman's skill level above all else via crystal mob
Cause if not prio that otherwise es to get drops for alchemy/stamps
It makes a huge difference for prints which means more atoms
I must say 4th frog is easy to kill with 85k hits XD
I've got like the first 3-4 atoms unlocked, they seem meh and not really pushing those

What the balls it doesn't max at 100%? That's silly
Well, 99% is silly
Like, if it was 80% or whatever sure but 99% is just toxic
quesiton bout liquid vestment. does it upgrade the lowest cost between cap/rate or is it random between the 2
gotcha
meanwhile me going for nugget max now after maxing TD one
nugget is next for me
I go for liquid after nugget
xD
my bubo is lvl 494 rn but even if he hits 500 I can't change character for now because I want to upgrade grind time to 10k
whats max level for TD, is it 5% or are there upgrades to make it better
yeah, it's 5% per second
i was gonna say, 5% is already broken
and i am ok with that 
but it actually helped me to get my worships to 130 without any problem xD
I even reached once 1m dmg on my stormcaller with 2% dmg increase lmfao
should i even try to push w5 portals with those kind of stats ?
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time to backtrack and beef up your previous worlds
now is time for trickz's backtrack mini guide

i'd say push until you dont have100% survivability whilst doing previous world skills
when should I start to lvl up my characters like at what lvl of grind time bubble?
damn that shall be done then but idk if the power of money can help 
what are major breakpoints in the gaming skill? I've been pretty hardstuck around 1 million green points for a while
mostly getting the artifacts and a semi competent nugg is what you need to get snail
which is where the big gains happen
in the #1084911530417606656 masterlist by rashaken
and be happy thx to the atom its not that big of a pain anymore with snail
and thx to equinox its even pretty much easy to get good nuggets too now
What is this used for? I don't understand its effects
It's mostly a "player new to w5 who needs to go sort their stuff out"
i lost a roll on snail that only had a less than 1% chance of reset π¦ (90%+ chance of success with a less than 10% chance of reset on fail)
Has anyone made a tier list for Equinox upgrades yet?
bruh I just whitescreened on a dungeon run I spent 40 tickets on and finished with 3 min leftr
Anyone else feel like the Equinox was a really nice addition, just cause it gives you something to aim for? I gotta admit I really enjoy it
Before I had several things I was planning to do, but now I have direct goals to aim towards on the journey.
are those cards alr for pop obols ? (did the snapshot for cards)
other than more clouds (to skip pass unbeatable clouds) id say first resource is S teir because you can get more unlocks, other than that i see no clear teir list, its just whatever you want, maybe stuff liek liquid and nugets would be good for long term benifits but idk
huh? is this even possible?
no
where should i farm power statues
beans
BEANS
with dk
BEEEEEANS
BEAAAAAANS
π«
Bruh look what someone pulled
Ikr me too
whats the best pet comp for the wave 100 dream
is that nuggest even real?
I have 15,000 nug on my gaming, is that considered good?
oh wait I just saw that 3 mil one holy shit
nevermind
Not any longer
Feels real bad
you need to beat wave 130 and the best comp is looter, sharpshooter, refiller and borger
15 - 50k was decent before Equinox
for wave 121 do i need to pass the 130 ? when i died at 128 totem shows 120
everyone on your screen needs to be dead to count the wave
Borger/looter/refill/peapea does it incredibly easy, can turn on auto from start
Before the next wave spawns*
i cant possibly kill wave 122 before wave 123 spawn so i need to go to boss then
probably the task i hate the most
Is this new or has this always been here?
been a while its there
Always
cant wait to see those class
talent window is missing a tab anyways
We expect those to all be tab4 elite classes though
oh, you mean a choice ?
i see
Oh that TD equinox upgrade is pretty cool
but we still have an empty tab slot
Yes
on the roadmap it was said they will be added with w7 and w8
so we have to wait...
the hell in only ave 7k since w5 came out
No. It said w6 would drop, then 3 elites, then w7, them 3 more elites, then finally w8
Tab5 should be for w8
it was 3 elite classes written above w7 with the same color
same for another 3 and w8
they are before but in my opinion this is something that will drop at the same time
I'm with rastafari on this one
Look at the original version
how is the 2000 killroy kills done?
Very clearly w6 > 3 elites > w7 > 3 elites > then w8
by been at the right place at the right time XD
thanks
this one is clear
the other one is misleading
Do we know what player housing is gonna be?
Nobody will claim Lava is perfect
Honestly I really hope "player housing" gets yeeted
hard part is to place ourself when not plan updates come out, like shimmer island or equinox
Unless decorating my home somehow gives me buffs, I'm never going in there.
can i just leave after reaching wave 130 in arena or do I have to die?
same question]
is the display exp from the equinox resources and actually earned exp different?
says almost 75m per hour left a couple hours and got 2m exp
afk
I'm trying to beat the team battle for the Crystal Caverns spice, but get dommed instantly with a team of 5 all with > 15.5k power
max afk there is 2 minutes
There is a sign there that says No AFKing. You are limited to 2m afk claims in the Equinox
You can sample the resources though
is it like after bb and all of those or brand new ones ?
Time to put this new buff to work 
My expectation is we get 12 unique tab4 elite classes
plus Vman is 13 
is best path for eyeballs BBB?
wait so 2 choice per elite class ???
wait no brain is dumb
BAAA
sooooon.. just 11 more ulti doubles.
BRUH!!!!!
interesting, thank u
My second expectation is that w8/tab5 re-merges back to a single choice for Warrior, Mage, and Archer that simply have different tab3 and tab4s on the way
But we still need 13 for that
Just guesses at this point though
Poison tower almost at 1m damage 
I'll take it I guess
can you only stack 1050m in your chest? I'm only getting 10m atm but I've seen it doesnt go beyond 1050
or maybe I just havent seen it past 1050
It auto converts excess to atoms
oh okay
1050m is the max per 1 stack, you could fill your storage with stacks
Multiple stacks is required for some stamps
what stamps..??
high level ones
For now just material stamps as thats the only resource type we can reasonablly hold 1b of
ah I see, I kind of figured the carry cap for some higher lvl stamps would be impossible
But technically any stamp can get that high if you improve your cap enough
I'm assuming you just use vman?
I could get it cheaper with the atom discount, but this will be my final gilded-only level for that stamp I believe
240 -> 250 crystallin was also over a full stack of bricks, even with gilded+hydrogen
2.6b for 260 
I'm holding my breath that tomorrow puts me over the edge for 210 multitool
I'll be raising Mason Jar 120 -> 124 and Bugsack 176 -> 184
Done with the wave 15 minutes later. Cool buff 
Which skills are most important on Vman for boosting his damage?
errr talents i mean
@signal osprey my 1st day with the nugget equinox
already hit a new one
also gotta rub it in @dapper prism
You max that bonus and sit down with kitsune you'll have a new nug within hours
Same with my 48 lol, i wanted to save mine for 15 chems but i guess i womt do that rn
im doing some sweaty gaming right now
3 min claims with kitsune on
check plants and harvest
whats the best char for w3 and w2 dungeon run(solo)?
I have my Rock on now, but am also saving for the 15chems
i accidentally used one π¦
Oh i forgot about fertilizer
I burned through my 80 ferilizer I had stored a month ago to get t6s
im having trouble using an IS code. I jsut enter it in chat in w1 home? nothing happens
Try the final mining map
and make sure youre on the correct char
ah thanks i found the guy in mine, but nothing.
i think it might be a case of my name thing. do names appear in block caps even if they are not on the char select screen?
is this your first time claiming?
yeah
type your name on IS in lowercase
I thought it was case sensitive but too long ago for me to remember
ahhh ok i got it now thanks
its your name as writtin under your char, not as written on char select screen
thanks for help all
Printer eating all of my liquid π
Fishy finish though π Bugs soon
I've used around 400 hours of candies with my vman on dreadlo ore with max speed and still no lucky lad. DR is a bit above 14 and afk gains at around 225%. Am I doing something wrong?
have fun with IS
Were you using small candies or big candies?
What's the afk setup for equinox wave 130 pet arena?
- Hopefully u don't filter LL
- You are probably unlucky. I also haven't got it in 300 Hours with 17 dr
I personally got it while farming some Gems on my Vman
24h ones and 12h ones
if you encourage the snail, is it only for that one level up, or does it make the odds better in the future too?
Only the one level
Would it be better to use small ones?
A single speed food with automatic arm disabled should work, right?
Per candy, yes
Oh shit. Just saw I forgot Obols while resampling 
does multikill help deathnote kills?
what are big breakpoints in sailing? I unlocked all the areas but im having a real hard time getting the artifacts lol
Wow dungeon 2/3 suck if you don't get foal RNG huh
If you get to everything in your Minimum sail time you are doing fine. Artifacts are supposed to be hard to get
minimum sail time as in 2 hrs or less? cause that aint happenin
There are shiny pets and a bonus from Fractal Island that can help with Artifacts
Then hit lower islands
Sail for the resources more than the artifacts
Farm up some lower islands to get your ships faster
its ok to build up, you dont have to hit last island the first day
60M is the speed youβll hit every island at min speed
Sailing speed is your breakpoints, your ships need to have at least half the sailing speed of the island they are going to to hit the minimum, then you're capped
The only Island i'm not getting in my Minimum is the last Island. Everything else is good for me. But there are also only 6 (?) Artifacts I am missing and 2/3 of them are useless to me
Ish. I need 62m π
Thank christ there's no timer on killing dungeon 2 bosses
Meanwhile I received 0 sprinkler resets, 0 log resets, and failed on the 2nd flip π₯²
Too unskilled
That'll happen sometimes
anyone know minimums to get a frisbee sample?
I also only got 1 mail today
Rough day for gaming
That log got 11 more nuggets towards the bonus and the lowest one was 14k so the buff is getting pretty juicy now
I'll get there. Equinox going kinda slowly for me
got my 15 chems, forgot to buy cloud tho
3 more hours
My bar should be filled roughly 30 minutes after my usual bedtime. Gotta convince the wife to let me stay up lol
Is It worth active farming with BM ?
God no
for exp eventually sure, otherwise not rly
whats the best map for cranium cooking?
Used a 72 hour candy now and directly got 2 lucky lads
Ok sure and with ES?
socks
Generally no, but getting 425 and 450 are important milestones for Divine Scarf and Trophy
advice from a wife here: be sly and do something "for her" that keeps you up those 30 mins, or like offer to do the dishes and do it slow or something
tremor>ojs>flombs
500 technically also a milestone now for equinox I guess
and outside of w5? or are those 3 just the best overall?
flombs is w4
whoops
then itd be like cans, staches
Devious and manipulative 
but if its for 100k cc then those prob wont cut it
yes like i said, i'm a wife π
Pff, you want to use the dishes you wash them lazy
its not about the dishes, it's about staying up 30 extra minutes without getting in trouble
In trouble from who, your parents? lmao
Not in trouble, per se. Just that I take first shift with baby on overnights, so me staying up makes her stay up with the baby until I go to bed
and do i wanna use boxing gloves to spread out the aura more?
help to have 200 tenteycle talent too
I'd be scepticle if 100k CC is doable without 3s tent
At least not for accounts that didn't spend time pre-w5 farming floms
need that harvest all except chem button more than ever
Oh here we go ok, vman lucky lad drop - dreadlo with 12hr+ candies?
I think I might have clicked more today than I have in any 3 cog clicker sessions combined 
its actually so much clicking... LOL
But the gains though
What is alternative for Burger?
im already up BIG
5mil or bust...
Baby steps
this is gonna get out of hand very fast though
only a matter of time before we're seeing 100mil nugs
Final Superbit, here we come 
100mil would take a lot of commitment lol
see you there
Like I'm sure someones gonna get it done but it wont be me 
Will take a couple months, but eventually
Guys, i'm kinda stuck and not sure what would be more efficient at this point. Skill up my vman or level him up? I haven't reached the end of w5 yet on any chars, nowhere close.
What is the best combo to kill the weekly boss 5 times this week?
Troll gear and levels help
HOW???
Snail
Oh right
Thank you, will do.
I forgot that jerk existed
Remember skill book check outs too and leveling skills
Many people are much further than I am
I seng from 14 to 10 last night
I only managed to purchase the snail last week so I'm still in piddly green trillions 
Failed 5 times without anything happening at 36% chance to succeed and then reset ysy
Am on 10 rn
15 for me
Nice! Remember to upgrade the atom
What's garbager than garbage?
Trying to allign the skills lv on everybody. Thanks for the reminder.
Vman should be the highest in all but construction
It takes a while but is worth it
Even cooking and other stuff?
My bad world 3 and below skills

Smithing, alchemy, cons, worship don't matter. The other 5 do though 

Huh, got scared for a sec there. He is, i'm getting that huge eff boost for printing for everybody.
Worship is still smart to level
For the more multi on souls and critters
I am lvling worship and trapping atm, need the multi
get to level 40, then there's an option for exp even when not praying
You don't get bonus Worship eff for Vman being highest?
Sure, but doesn't need to be first.
Thats divinity not worship
God damn he thicc
u do get the eff bonus, but its not very impactful. the vman talent is huge tho so you do want to push worship lvls still
My nugget is only 60k so the equinox upgrade should help me get at least t7 superbit
mine is 55k
Look at my trash account here: https://renbrian.idleonefficiency.com/
Well I rolled a 150k but my game crashed
I see. Good to know. I've been struggling to keep Vman in the lead there because I'm lazy and doing the big succ on ES.
So thatβs why I say only 
it helps if you crystal countdown with vman, then use balloons during a td run with juiced skill exp from talents(transfusion), prayers, gear, cards, starsigns and so on
Upgrade your anvils so you can work on the vials
That is a bad idea to do as he levels far to quick and you need levels on other characters for more charge
You donβt even have all the money upgrades 
I want to, but i am too lazy
I am lazy alright xD
The money ones are just holding the button though 
All your characters are holding enough to max their own
Everyone is 100+ for skill Mastery. I know it's not ideal, but - am lazy.
Good idea, thanks.
is there a vengeful frog w1 solo guide out there? I dont really do dungeons tbh but I guess I need to solo him for equinox
if youre r40 get the orange item foal and your dmg should be sorted
get lots of drop rate and hope you get the drops and you should be fine
Egalitarian Traps worth pursuing or is that something for when you have fully run out of trapping tasks?
if you have the mats for sure can make one
only gives some more trap power and such
slab it and then can wait
Got it. Helpful, but not a game changer.
I should probably pursue some other trapping stuff first, but as Voodoos roll in I'll keep it in mind
Thank you!
Anyone know how to cheese second Colloseum?
wdym cheese
if you have hp curse prayers they make the resource nodes last longer
so take those off
What do we use the mirrors for?
Collected a few thousand but no idea.
try using one
Hold down on it to use it
I've used it don't worry lol.
lmao
But do you actually need to farm them?
greenstack now 
only one is enough
Right, gotcha.
Wasn't sure if Equinox would introduce it as a currency for something
i've been spamming nugget size import upgrade to get that potential higher and higher 



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