#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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so as long as my bm is in the skill preset, i can claim on drone on like my es or dk? or do i still need to claim on bm
truuu
ty 🙂
wouldnt say useless, but yeah uses the same stats/effect as beefmaster
minigames
oh ok
Its your daily gem roulette spins
Is it possible to ever use time candies in w5??
Bruh would it say on world 6 "to windy the candy flies out of your hand"
Then you lose your stack of 5k 1 hrs
Got 8 RNG vouchers in the first min, took under 2 seconds to kill the 4th boss
i couldnt click fast enough to pick up the items lol
full whipe and i probably spent under 20K total. plus all the money boost items i had
217 k wtf
thats not to hard to get just do the x20 event every week. i got about ~80K on that run
gold dice help
im r51
I am like level 30 somthing
its funny im rank 51 in dugeons but ive never done the w2 or w3 dungeon lol
The dungeoun happy hour only supports teleports to w1 dungeoun. Which means almost everyone is in the same situation as you
What the heck does this mean
I just tped to w2 town, didn't even touch anything before it popped up
@opaque sun I feel like you've answered the strange things that I've seen and screenshotted a few times, any idea?
looks like an off by 1 error on a list of promps lava has set up
how much dmg I need for this?
Give it a shot on your best geared ES
Get talents high, use weapon power foods, just try it. only 5 keys
my best geared ES is on chizoar 
Chizoar is pretty good for whats its worth
Can ya 1 tap normal krunk?
Interesting... so there should have been a different message there? Was it another of his updates?
What is the standard skilling card set, when you have the skill cards passive from rift?
my best geared BB is full divine 
last night around this time I had about 40k orb kills, I now have 101k orb kills
baby stepping to end game
Giga gearing a blood berserker and not a real fighting class?
he's my first character I gotta treat him right
I understand
I play wizards in literally every game with a warrior/rogue/mage choice for class so I tried to switch it up this time
as it turns out wizards are the only good class in every game
I did this with 7500M on BB
Kinda just want to give a big thank you to people who regularly answer questions here. It feels like this is the only channel I get good info from as I'm trying to go from a very casual player to a player who may one day have 500 level alchemy bubbles
It's been acquired
it’s so easy nowadays 😅
babysteps
10 Troll kills, 9 obols. Didnt recall them being this common 
https://i.imgur.com/aQWHf58.png
You lucky son of a gun
Also didnt know you could get a double drop on obol 🤔
please sir I want some more
Essentially just fodder (besides the use of trials - ty herus)
These better:
https://i.imgur.com/Q1dEC4j.png
I have no sparkle obols 
I just finished the 10/10 capes the other day, so im happy ill be able to start the gem runs on it
is there a channel dedicated for IE roasts and anyone willing to do one? 🫠 I have been just afking around for a few months since I got my last
There is no roasting here
Only constructive criticism
and pinchy emotes
And moaning about unused mini bosses and books
Sometimes the criticism isn't entirely constructive, like the other day when Bird was half joking about how I may not be able to get choccy chip 2 months from now because there's a chance my highest smith level was 20, or that it was silly for me to point out Purrmep is not a tiger, but most likely a liger
lmao
Luckily the only tears I shed are rift tears
for information I am trying to get the suggma recipe with almost all characters
id gt anvil points and greenstack then go back to that with more dmg on your es and active farm it
basically everything you got going on is better than what I have except somehow you're printing like 750 krakens on your first character, 844 on another. What the hell, I can print almost 3-4x as many krakens as you, upgrade your fishy boys
there are 5 things I need to actively farm with ES - pearls for tools, hamters for weapons - upgrade gene splicer mats or w4 gene splicer recipe - pop obols
also I could actively farm DK for dice obols - statues - pens
there‘s so much I can‘t decide what to do first
Also how is your bubo your highest level character smh, that's about all my roast material
you need to kill more green mushrooms.
yeah ignore alch, that‘s why my bubo is strongest
getting 260k alch progress with CC already
would it make sense to just ignore the suggma recipe and put everyone on green mushs?
Yes
solid idea. that's what ive been doing.
but I already farm this recipe since 3 weeks
would be a waste of time if I stop now..
I'm also ahead of you on green mush btw
Ignore that suggma till you can active it with ES. Dont do that till you have power of trithree and greenstacks (and pop obols)
need more people to kill mushrooms. they are evil little creatures.
what is teithree
they smile too much >:O
trithree
Thats okay, but youre not ready for suggma in that case
The suggma recipe has an insanely low drop chance, beginner weapons are annoyingly expensive regardless, and as much as it'll give dopamine to get the last recipe from w5 mobs like.... it's not really a priority
You could also get 20 slab progress for all round buffs fairly easily
no that sounds right
suggma is knuckles no?
yes
people post here with 1110M kills trying to get it haha
i think i had like 300mil at the time of getting it
but i also went out of country for 14 days, while afking on it
so.. that helpped.
LOL
I got v lucky with active ES
I know the big ole mole recipe is like 1 in 2m and I opened the portal no recipe on my first character 
i think the hardest drop ive had to get.. were the w5 boss wings.. farming keys for weeks just to not get the drop.. that was fun.
wait is that counted as a spoiler.. now that i think about it? honestly not the type of person to talk to others.. i tend to just keep to myself.. sorry if i break any spoiler rules..
I don't think anyone is concerned about spoilers for IdleOn, especially when they're in w5 and trying to minmax to end game
||There is a tutorial secret ||
in that case
is it keeping the oil
i'm almost at 40bil mushroom kills.
aiming for the 100b mark. i hate those things.
eradication i say!
that's not really a spoiler, it's just you going for gmush kills
i want to hit 500k% bonus coin drops on mobs.. through labs
||No, a real secret quest in the w4 tutorial before the troll hole||
I feel like I'm being told you can get Mew in pokemon red/blue but you have to look under the truck outside the vermillion city port or whatever
Hello! Anybody that is fairly into lategame. what is your opinion of farming a second set of DR obols? I am on the job for the first one, and having the temptation to farm some more for a second character to not be swapping them around too much. What has been your experience on this? Have you done it and regretted it later? Thanks a lot!
Its alright. Farming it takes a few hours of checking it occasionally, but i prefer to use construction obols for speed atm. 18.5dr with family obols, but no personal
Oh, I see, good to know! Thanks for the quick answers 😛
There's a missable slab slot
ah geez slab slots get really annoying after 1.1k
!merit
You just got a still useless so far crystal (except +1 slab)
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
Free teleport to lustre cave (or void cave, I forgot)
Does that mean I don't need to reach certain levels?
Free teleport jsut mean free (as it doesn't consume one tp charge), but you can't teleport to map you have yet to unlock
Oh sucks sad
Except dungeon map
Because Lava.
And all w5 maps any character has unlocked with the vman after a speedrun.
Because Lava.
vmans speedrun resets all his kills to 2m EACH time?
Hi, i'm wondering if there's any effective way or cards to boost divinity?
exp balloons dont work on any of the w5 skills sadly
Hm, i'll just leave 3 chars in there for now seems to be ok
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=Divinity here you can see everything Divinity related
Search every bonus in Idleon!
Mage exp talent boosts them in div
Thank you 🙂
and thanks to the other 2
turns out i raised my gold nuggets from 1.5k to 3.5k didn't even realise that
What's the best way to farm the w3 statues (box, soul, construction)?
crystal, I do it at ram with DK
not sure if its the best map for it tbh
Neither rams nor crystals drop these statues though?
They are from Cyrosnakes, Penguins and Sippy Straws
sorry massive brain fart rn, thought u mean farming statue in w3
like top said, ES cuz they are in normal drop tabel for snek and stuff
I feel like I'm missing something because it's going so slow with them. Is there anything I can do other than increase DR to get them quicker?
Spend Candy on them :P
pretty good 
I see, thanks!
I know cal me bob should be going into the infinity but is there a good stopping point before I should start investing in other bubbles?
how are people getting 30m kills p/h at gmush? ive got all my deathnote completed and im at 9mp/h am i missing some massive ammount of multikilll from somwhere?
Is the atom collider bugged? I already turned it off but it’s still converting my resources to particles?
Works the same as being on, storage limit still 1050
Ohh no wonder. Thanks
the limit is hard coded there due to overflow limits on mobile I believe. hitting a 2+b stack would delete your items lol
Np best to keep it off tho so you dont accidently burn resources you've been saving
always keep it turned off. If you change device, it sets the limit to 15m on that device, and will nom all your stuff immediatelyt
I'm still recovering from that mistake
Yeah i made that mistake before 
@almidas how can i increase my samples like that? 😵
how does that work? and how do i avoid making it?
turn autocollider off
the toggle is saved server side, but the limit is saved client side
does it still convert at 1050?
386% afk gain and few hundred billion eff?
yes, still convert, its just that auto collider is best set off in case if you log to other device with <1050m stack set
you still need to open collider on other device tho for it to happen?
yeah if you only use one device it doesn't matter
What happened was:
- I had collider ON set to 1050m
- I went on holiday for two weeks, and bought a shiny new laptop for the trip
- Loaded idleon on this laptop
- The collider is set to 15m on this device, which juiced all my stacks
If I had collider set to OFF the 15m setting wouldn't have screwed me
hmm, when i log in on other devices my stacks never disappred. so i assumed it only happened if one "opened" collider page
but anyway, setting the collider "off" will work just as well as having it set to 1050?
Is it true that increasing liquid regen also grants more liquid/per cc?
yes
i get around 7k of each per 10min that my cc goes off
is there a max limit on how many nuggets i can save? can i just leave it until the alluded buff by lava
u can keep saving nuggets but its diminishing returns
damn i wish i had those rates...
it keeps going up but each one is slower than the next
thanks, ill just use then
I get around 3,5-4k i think with this cc.
So ty good to know gotta improve liquid 1st now
it goes 1h for the first nugget 3 for the second then 5 8 etc or something liek that
the stamp increases it by alot so try and do that as well
also when are we getting the limited shop liquid cauldrons again 😦
it was in the suggestions to vote for so theres a good chance we'll get one this time around
nice! that would be great
worst thing is i skipped out on them before as i didnt know better -.-
ive gotten like 10-12 after only a few days
with doot procs and such
depends on how many times you do gaming and proc the log over and over too tho

once you get chemical plants you get multiople days worth of plants every few hours
kinda pointless to save though yeah
heh
the formatted time goes wrong pretty quick because it doesnt count days but yeah
so am i??
true
its fun to sometimes click it when u have a ton of nuggets though, it goes round and round in a circle past 360 degrees
p cool
yea i mean if i know the exact time the update comes out id prob save my nuggets for like half a day
but thats about it
with kitsune on you can get screens like this every few minuites then click harvest all and you have like 10 nuggets waiting to collect
because i cant eb bothered doing it all day forever? XD because you get multiple of them eveyr few mins
it'd never end
couldve been RNG
i didnt bother gettting them they just spawned lol
does candy progress shrines?
every few mins because of this
no every few mins means if i harvest all it'll be back in a few mins doesnt mean i spend all day doing it ...
alreayd got more chemicals see
u would have higher odds at big plants though no?
i always leave kitsune on no matter what
since the speed buff is so massive now that u can upgrade it a lot
never said it was i was just saying if you wana farm nuggets chemicals are way better...
i think im gonna wait till after the update drops in case there is some sort of snail buff, if theres nothin im gonna yolo to try and hit lvl 20
if theres any type of buff then poggies
Do it
Now
You have my encouragement 
rn got enough letters to get to 20 as long as i dont reset to 15, since it would take ~15 letters per lvl up at ~20% chance
gambling pays off allways, remember that kids
but ima wait since there could always be somethin
I reseted to 15 from 18 6 times so no, definitely no
XD at least theres the safety net nowdays
a few weeks ago you'd have gone to 0 lol
ur about to win big, never give up
99% of gamblers quit before they win big
think of the gains you could have if you win
How many "boost chance" letter do you advice to use at each level between level 15 and 20 ?
i used 0 all the way to 23
lol
0 just get lucky lol
Is there any 25 yet ?
i aint gonna use any encouragements until like 22-23+
Wrong chat, sorry
noones hit it yet as far as i know theres a couple people on 23 i dont know anyone other than me that was on 24
You were on 24 before ?
a simple buff to encouragement to make it permanent across all upgrades would be nice
yea dropped to 20 this morning then shot back to 23
i was complaining about it in chat for a few hours lol
u would still need quite a bit of letters for the encouragements in the 20s but at least then u wouldnt need to keep doing it after every level up
like i said i never encouraged at all lol
u didnt even encourage at snail lvl 24?
nope
if u yolo to 20 i'll use my 3 mail to yolo to 24 again
nah fam
i gotta wait in case theres an update
i think if u dont encourage at 24 ur trolling
WTF
gamblers always win
u sir have insane luck
i hope you decide to sit at 24 for a while
if u try again without encouraging ur gonna regret it lol
XD
Do you work in the PR team of a Casino? 😛
its working for me so far lol
because he is only x2 away from being done
x1
i dont see the point in yoloing a 1% just to drop all the way down
i mean ur bit multi will be 2x higher
then ur done
unless ur actually about to get to the final bit upgrade and desperately need that x2 multi then id wait until u get ur other multipliers up enough
thanks for talking me into doing the 24 gamble i feel good now lol
this calls for a drink
lmao
bruh
u know u wana
i dont have ur luck
im good
ill do it in a few days with no encouragement
when im sure theres no snail upgrade
ill notify u then
might stream it idk
get the streamer luck
think of the possibilities
at best i could get maybe 1 more superbit upgrade rn, the t7 plants
im good
not in a rush
if u use 50 letters on encouraging at rank 24 u will have 2x better odds at getting to 25 without resetting, id think about saving at least that much as im sure it will take way more than 50 letters to get back to 24
total reset chance goes from 24.91% to 12.34%
yea but theres not much difference between 1.5 and 3% success
thats not the most important thing
may as well spent those 50 mail on getting back to 24 after failing a couple times
its the chance to reset goes way down too
though it seems to be impossible to ever guarantee it at rank 24
i changed the number but it diminished hard
yoloing always works- dont look at engame chat that doesnt exist
so i think like around 50 encourages is a decent plan
well yeah but im sure on avg getting back to 24 would cost hundreds of letters
Is it worth encouraging for the lower ranks or just yolo all the way?
Provided you keep your atom at a high enough level of course
i mean i spent a total of 12 mail to get to 24 from 20 and your talking about using 50 to get from 17-18
I reset 5 times in a row at level 12 with encouragement. Now I'm just yolo
yeah but at rank 24 thats just irresponsible
id rather reset and suffer mental damage knowing i did the right thing
How is it the right thing if u reset still lol
man i whish i had 3 mail rn so i could try for 25 again imagin fail twice for it in 1 day lol
im trying to get to rank 20, not 18
if i reset ill just be trying to get back to rank 17 ish then im gonna save for another month
- theres eventually going to be some sort of snail buff, so if u save ur mail at 24 ur going to be in a much better spot
where are you getting this from? i havent heard anything about another snail buff XD
it seems like it would be a likely thing to happen, given how much people talk about it
he just added the safety net i doubt he'll add anything else
if he listens at some point and adds something then u will wish u were still rank 24
na i'll just luck yolo back up lol
at some point ur luck will run out lol
Honestly I'm kinda broken when it comes to snail already, if it goes up it goes up, no point stressing
spent months trying to get from 10 to 15, highest I've ever gotten to was 13, which was this morning
oh and another thing, who knows maybe there will be enough multiplier updates to gaming to where u dont need a rank 25 snail to get the final bit multi, so if u stay at 24 u could just be set for the rest of time
at least it means I can effectively ignore gaming until I get lucky
theres gonna be more achievements for w6 and onwards which would give u more multi already right there
im missing the pong multi cause im shit at pong lol
whats pong?
if u reset theres no telling whether u will be able to get back to 24 within a years time lol
I can do the skill based stuff, just not the luck 😄
anything besides quickslap mat vman should be printing / have available fro print (assuming vials are done)
comb for bob i guess?
comb sounds good yeah
minigame inside the gaming minigame inside the idleon game
why am i so shit at pong i was alive when actual pong was a thing on the atari
its cuz ur a boomer now 
😦
i only remember pacman....
reaction times don't even begin to noticeably drop until mid 40's so it's possible you're just bad at pong
please change pong to pacman lava
sometimes i can see where i need to go know what to do but my hands just dont move for a second or so haha
im 53
Rip
i was at like 19k for months, then came back a few months later and got 35k in 1 try
Basically a corpse at this point, sorry 😦
could just be a bit of luck
yea the score shoots up the higher u get
There's absolutely luck involved with lava pong
i only have 14k because i got my daughter to do it for me haha
yeah, reaction time helps though, + anticipating the tragectory prior to them hitting it
but lag sometimes gets ya
ii found out that w3 coloseum is better for candy than w2 with high DR
how much DR we talkin?
ohh i dont know, but i have 21,89
cuz i have 100% drop rate on all first 3 candies, 1h 2h 4h
and its easier to drop 12h and 24h
cuz rates from slush are better than rates from biggie
ofc forgot to delete samples before speedrun... fml
Go into W3 Town if you still in Speedrun
did u get a higher portal count at least? lol
idk, portal is fixed on colo
Can you send your IE
if u havent already, id try to do a portal count run to the next 5 threshold so that u can get some extra mk/tier
on DK?
Tysm
you saved my ass!! tyyyy
aight nice, just checked mine on full DR, 22.02x
still need to get the last DR bonus of the 5000 family lvl
niceee, i wonder where im missing the last part to reach 22
u got the stamp?
yeah
- maxed arcade
do u have the bubble at 34/35%?
tats cool
2bb 2dk
yeah, i just gotta wait to get reductions for the krakens
hm...63 lvls for 2.1% gain....not really much
just figured out i ran speedrun with midas... lol
mine is 110 and its 11.6
every little bit helps with all the multipliers we got to DR
how is it possible to fail with both deleting samples and midas...
especially on DK, since that orb is a multiplier
The way the orb works means it doesn't really care any different right?
100 orb just simulates 2 kills
like, spore cap, iirc u need 9.15 to reach new drop tier. if u have 9.14 it doesnt round
it doesnt work like that
Anyone know where can I find the optimal construction layout image? Can't find it in any pins
depending on your DR your orb has a dif weird multiplier from the same thing
Ok now you two need to fight as one of you is saying I'm right, the other wrong 😛
u can check the dr orb calculator
depending on your DR u can get extra rolls for the same tier
they are both right i think lol
like if u have 200 orb stack and 11 DR u would get 10 eggs (random number) but if u have 11,01 your orb of 200 would give u 12 eggs
cuz there are breakpoints
same way as loot rolls when u have guaranteed drops
which means its still effectively a multiplier
its not that simple iirc for example
its more of a multiplier
if i run W3 colloseum without orb i dont get guaranteed 2h and 4h candy
if i run W3 colloseum with orb i get 100% guaranteed 2h and 4h candy
so orb is also a multiplier to drop rate that works with breakpoints
Isn't colo a unique case becase it has a manual cap on drop rate for candy
If you have a 7 DR, and an item that's 1/10. an orb of 50 (7*1.5 = 10.5) would guarantee the drop then? Neat
yeaaah but what we take from it is that, every DR counts, even if its 0,01
i normally get 2 4 and 12 hour candies sometimes the 12 horu candi is a higher candy but i always get 3
cuz u might be 0,01 away from a breakpoint that would give u an eextra drop (or guarantee a candy
And 600 Orbs with 10x dr how much would be
doesnt work like that, but orb is a multiplier for guaranteed drops, so u would roll that loot 6x 7x
instead of dropping 1 u would get either 6 or 7
no since its not guaranteed
cant roll extra loot of not guaranteed drops as far as i know
if u can somehow get enough DR to guarantee it prior to orb, then yeah u would get multiple lol
prob doesnt have the vman thing that doubles your statue guys alive time
🤣
he prob has low talent levels or crystal odds, with 10x DR seems likely
I do
But auto
orb lvl 268?
267
I should upgrade more the shockwave i guess
ah well ive hit 950 orb at worms pretty regularly
u must have good crystal odds then
1/33 or something
u sure? that seems kinda low for hitting 950 often lol
unless im doin something wrong
lemme check i dont normally min max those things
Dr affect Crystals appearing?
no but more crystal = more orb
1/28 but still pretty close
ah ok, im at that same spawnchance
last orb i saw was 850 tho, maybe im not paying enough attention to the good ones
like i just got an 807
its normally around 8-900 sometimes you get a few good 950-990's tho
couldve been unlucky i guess
You have mana po box off?
i haven't gotten around to turning mine off
Oh uh just git gudder then
i'll do it eventually
You're hitting 950 orb with po box on.
been doing my obols for slab like a good boy and oh no
doo u guys think lava will fix money display on this update?
Seems high, but I haven't ran worms in a minute
i just did another one and got 830
I'd be surprised if it's before w6

w6 will give us godshard ore. Then lava needs to decide what he's doing with ore. then we'll probably get a money update
Was that DK a BB before?
doing obols for slab? How's that supposed to work? Don't they need to drop to count?
time to farm money,
Dunno was just thinking you might have combistion on which would do map clears
cant reach 21 DR without dr on card doublers D;
If they're in your obol inventory and you enter the w5 map they get entered
ive got the orb far back on my action bar so it doesnt use it strait away that might be why its not spawning the second orb and canceling it out more
pls no. i hated that in idle skilling
idk i dont normally play my dk im strait bubo lol
Ty, got me +12m/hr straight away lol
playing overnight must be cool D: ive never done it
Ah that could help i guess with po box
Your electricity bill thanks you
pc energy consumption hardly affect my bill '.'
shower is what u should watchout for!
pc is like, 90% of my bill lmao
Two PCs, 4 monitors, 2 laptops, two xboxes, a tv
that's like, all of my energy bill lmao
yeah i used to do bubo a couple times a day, but figured i might as well perma do it and work on liquid regen speed or else the problem will get worse
i leave my pc on so I don't have to turn on the heat 
once all them bubbles are over 10k gonna be annoying
😮
half of that is my wife's
its gotten to the point where im overflowing liquid even when i check it when i do my hourly clicks :I
same
overflow too quick, i might start putting a bit into capacity
with a 200k capacity
but then id like to do bubo even more
im just hitting 60/ph lol
imagine the liquid gains
last couldrens lagging a bit
ehh yeah eventually could be a problem
Are you only pumping in regen? Lol
like at some point if ur regen speed gets fast enough, if ur activing bubo u would be able to perma hold the button down forever
I got 10k ish storage too, with 27 regen
u would need a massive storage too
yea cap stoipped making much of a difference, even if i level cap 100 more levels it'll only add like 1 k storage
Fair
that would be awesome though, just holding ur mouse down watching it level over and over
Is there a way to add 4 guys to alchemy cauldrons?
no not yet
Need a button to deposit all/ 50% drops button
Almost done bean farmin
Uh my goal is 120 golden food stamp
im done when i greenstack them all 
sooonnnn
i got to 250 feasty and took a break, working on getting 5k GT for now. will come back to beans once im done with that tho
liquids alredy full since that last pic lol
na capacitys pretty low
get them people on sigils rn lol
ow nice i neglected mine .....
these are my last 2 that i really need
im way behind
im about to finish and w6 isnt out yet, im chillin lol
no way in hell am i gilding that
i dont even have the liquid sigil yet XD
if it turns out that its an extremely OP bonus then ill drop another character on it for the gild in 2 years but for now im good
how much does this thing contribute with levels? is it worth grinding alchemy up on non-bubos?
its not much
very shit
oh yeah that's pathetic 😂
Why is the middle one so small 🤣🤌🏻
its the hat makes the head smaller
rip to all those atoms sadge
at least it wont be triggered by nbnl anymore
"for science" atoms 
im upgrading a few shit bubble so nbnl triggers on the bubbles that need salts lol
do yall spend most of your time active bubo? the cauldron levels are actually insane
im doin like 13 bubbles hourly which is helping quite a bit with nblb
its all i do nowdays lol
its either bubo or DK for more feasty statues for me
gotta get 1 billion movespeed so that quick slap is even better
my slaps being leveled by nbnl :> lol
tragic
Is the cooking speed from triagulon breakpoint,or does it work like meat shank and stuff?
10 hour click it ahhahaha
how much of your damage comes from quickslap? is it actually good or just a meme 😂
its broken atm and will prob be patched later
its like 10x better than anything else atm
is there some accidental exponential scaling on it or something?
na mostly came from the statue update for meovment speed raising everyone ms through the roof
hmmmm guess I'll take it past NBLB level 
think he'll patch the quick slap thing or just leave it?
idk sometimes he just randomly gets upset and patches things people start doin lol
normal
use es to grind them
i think he means for grinding anything in the rare drops table is dk anything outside it is es
May I ask why you leave it full?
fills up every 20min its hard to not let it fill up
playing bubo active if u set it up right you can use your CC every 10min or so
stupid vman....cant get the hang of killing krak with it....
easiest way is to just get you damage over 50,000m
oh damnit. If you visit crystal island but don't kill anything they disappear?
it it 25b-53b+
same for bottles and trash collect i think?
ugh.
yea then just focus moles only use your attack abilites on the moles wait for the map clear ability and attack the boss u can use the coin toss on the boss if u arent getting over run
I knew about the bottle and using the quick reference table. Because it happened to me the first ever time I visited, 7 days after it went live when I came home from vacation.
when moles get to the halfway point focus moles again until your map clears back up, rince and repeat
does cranium cooking also give progress for sigils?
nope. in fact, it completely halts sigils for the duration
so i shouldnt have any chars on sigils when im active bubo'ing?
When searching for rare drops from mobs, which one will add more drop rate wormhole or orb?
ahh yeah didn't think about those
but if farming normal mobs more gains will be with wormhole then
ES red DK green
except for bullseye statues
so you are saying rade drop bags don't count when using ES?
yes but why im saying it is because its in the rare drop bag
Is it possible to ruby star bandit bob card without a rubyfier?
I would imagine rare drops are just pure math inside, you just need to get one first with DR
anything on that page above es hits more, even that rare drop bag
if you havent finished the last quest you can go and click him once a day and he'll drop more cards
oh well that's rad
on each character
Has dad spoken any more about the update in the last couple days?
one more question: which build is the best for the islands DPS check? ES?
silence all day
you'll probably get the highest dps on your es since its lightning ability is op
Do we just keep pushing the refinery button 🤔
forge cap
For real? Can't you just buy forge cap?
wat
At around what bubble level can I start upgrading Carpenter with atoms? Its 184 now and cost 32mill salts
Rough estimate
Yoy guys also need to explain why forge cap is important :p
Gotcha
190-200ish depending on discounted bubbles
Yea guess I haven't made it to that point 🥲
I'm guessing those metal bar vials are evil
Most of your bar generation is handled by the archer skill that provides forge time for AFK kills. The amount of bars it smelts is based on the amount of ore you put in at once however. This is defined by the ore cap.
More cap = more bars
just get this its good
Would 1bil print of logs be considered endgame prints or no?
1B sample is early endgame i'd say
finally a milestone tp that endgame title
but thats sample, not print haha
1 b sample on sb
i just got it too so im trying to sneak my way in XD
XD
smart each time i think i joined endgame contract is denying his title to endgame haha cant be endgame if contract isnt endgame
tbh tho there are no standards, but like topbird said if you have little to do and go for meme progress stuff then maybe around then
contract is endgame, he crazy
😛 ikr we got same dmg but he got low QS, i cant even think how that possible
u guys summoned contract he here
ow he ran away

you spooked him
I identify as a mid gamer and nobody can stop me
Hey o/
Im Struggling to unlock the second to last mutation in gaming, is there a lowest chance % i should hit to even have a chance? Or can I try at around 0.8%?
just spam it
spam it at the lowest % u can
ok, so im just unlucky, thanks^^
turn the rock on and spam it for a few hours
one plant and try
kk, thx
does anyone know the math if its worth dropping from 19DR so im able to equip the beach ball money boost equipment?
even if it says 0%? 😄
got it, cuz maybe it would be some weird multiplier
oh gotcha
im with this right now, so this is being multiplied by 19DR (respective bonus) right?
in this group with equipment yeah?
yea
Your disguise isn't working
Plus dr is good for keys and statues too so even if beach trophy was a littler better I still wouldnt use it
Why hello there fellow midgamer
i wish W5 gave statues
did u finaly reach endgame, contract?
You're saying it's been... MODified....
No I'm midgame but rash likes to bully me
Mod power abuse 
thats against the law u should sue him!
ahahaha i love that new name

the true meaning of flex is adding "endgamer" to your name
cant be more bold than that
Then ask for IE advice in general with it on your name
I mean you can call a horse a ballerina but it can't do a kick ball change
Midgame - Endgame is a weird name
a horse can kick balls tho .... not the change part unfortunately
This name is more fitting for a player of my brain smoothness
If a horse kicks you in the balls, you better believe there is gonna be a change
more like facebook with the amount of misinfo goin on in that name
New user who dat
if hardstuck midgame, im probably still W1 beans noob
Anybody farming beans cant be called a noob
where jungle
update when
i was going to finaly resample to reach 1B prints but............... need to boost eff with update now
of oak ?
I'm half way there. Getting slower in the gains. Need more AFK gain %.
Be curious to see your IE when you hit 1B. Would like to compare against mine for where I need to put some focus to finally hit it
you cna check mine if you want i newly to 1.2B
@signal osprey how high do u guys have this?
i cant see myself leveling this one and the other one more, chopping is 320 but cost got insane
huh, just found this in storage. How long has THAT been there?
Those are the same levels I have currently but I'm doing more soon
Just been working on other stuff first
also of course I get the bad one first
hmm pretty much the same then
cuz even if i doubled my gmush i dont think it would make it beeter
Chopping one I'm gonna take to whatever the hard cap is from capacity. Mining not sure exactly where I stop but at least another 2 levels
330 not the end of the word but yeah prob 2 lvl max
more like capped by your gem income
damn your stamps are high 😮
probably just mine that are too low haha
oh yeah gotta work on those!
if no 210 multitool then stamps are automatically 
grinding next tier!
Clearly 150 catching will be enough for 220 
you meant 250 catching right?
You're making me debate if I shuld switch from Plunder to ES at sandypots
ofc ES is better, i farmed 210 tool faster that way
no way i wa gonna wait 5 days to upgrade mason jar everytime
Not sure how many glassshards I can get a day, I'd guess like 4-5k.
And more plunder will make ES even better
yeah probably around that
i need to go back to plunder, so annoying that cant even get 1k per hour
damn
doo u do that at wurms?
yea
is there ever a time to use void towers A upgrade? the fast cooldown? idk what it even does lmao
there's a copy of the other guide if that's what you're asking
Daily reminder to start preparing for the jewel/chip rotation. Between November 1st and mid January every single doubler will appear at least once as well as choco chip and a few very good jewels. Start farming now if you arent confident in your ability to farm mats quickly
thatll do
thank you
generally no - the damage is more worth it. The effect is when it casts, there's a chance it'll have a very short cd (like 0.1 seconds) and cast again right after
with how we have the worship paced out there should almost never be a reason for you to cast that fast so suddenly
Plus its rng too so if you're relying on those procs you're going to have mobs get through with being cleansed
Me: Clicks 8 cogs
IdleOn: and I took that personally
Immediate white screen?
8 cogs 
laggy but omw
thanks for explaining it. i thought maybe it meant other towers would quick cast, not just void
All 0%ers too
Was definitely worth crashing over
almost there
A bold choice doing TD before the update 
was there news i shouldn't? lol i just wanted to get the final frosty prayer
Damage numbers in TD can be toggled in the next patch to reduce lag as well as a teaser for some other TD related buff so potentially new max waves
of course lmao shows me on being proactive. dmg numbers being gone though 
this is DEFINITELY why I've not bothered increasing my TF5 score in 7 months
Gimme some new prayers and I'll rush to go do it
1... reallly.. 1 more
i got mine to 101 (weird number to lock in at) but haven't gone back since. was nice to get the souls at a respectable pace
that will happen in like 3 minutes if you're using kitsune 😜
lol yeah, it was more just.. the timing to check on it and see one more
I'll probably do it once I've done with the other vials
game froze
@signal osprey 🙃
welp guess i wait until i can turn off those numbers then
hurry up and update w4 quest npcs IE so i can check who has done onyx quests easier. i'm on 8/10 and i can't remember who the 2 who haven't done it are lmao
and i don't want to log in 10 times cuz i'm lazy 
First maxed meal
Is that max with eldritch arti?
Level 60, yes
Whats ur speed
Corn dogs next?
what ur cooking level
Damn
Level is entirely irrelevant to cooking lol
Ladles tho
nana i was just wondering
I pearled up to 50
Wait no I am dumb
higher level -> higher eff -> more lables ?
Cooking needs to be revamped imo
Fr
Are you linked to snake
wait when do kitchen levels max out
I haven't heard of Kitchens themselves having a max level. Meals however max at 60
Max level for meals is 60
Now get cooking skill mastery to 1000
Gotta finish 500 first 
Start pearlin'
140m eff is crazy
No doot, so I am not just swimming in Div Pearls
Then in approx 19384619 years youll get to 750
Are you using cooking shoes and 2 cooking rings or are they irrelevant
i thought it was 300 because of michelin ranked achievement but ig that was a bit blind
It's like 10k balloons per 75
Shoes, yes. Serrated Rings are better eventually
Aight thanks
I drop from 140m to 138m eff if I wear 2x cook rings
it always goes back to serrated rings i swear
Yea
Did you use Kruk stones on those, with how easy they are to get?
When is pendant chip 😭
Rings are easy I mean. I don't remember which difficulty drops armor stones.
Won't that boost your efficiency a bit more?
"Did you..."
Wait, I don't understand. I asked two different questions, what did I repeat?
Would the extra eff from kruk stones be noticable
about as noticeable as an hourly bubble click on str
Yea makes sense
25,055 strength vs 27,506
Dont cook naked tho
Oh?... What about hat?
So.. 2500 strength didn't bump me any noticeable difference. No way in hell the 6 or 8 base strength from using Kruk Stones on Serrated Rings would do anything.
hat has skill eff
So the 10 or so extra str from kruk stones will do nothing lol
Cooking stat increase is nonexistant I swear
Oh, sorry I thought he was wearing a regular helmet, forgot he was wearing the idle Skilling one lol
Like str doesnt affect it at all
reading this now, I completely forgot that the idle skilling hat even existed
I'm reasonably sure it doesnt, early w4 people told me it has a low impact, but I've never ever seen any difference
Wish I could have multiples. Swapping it around is annoying
Also, in some cases more str = less cook effy 
Me too
Btw I what cards are you running
And does food effect cooking
Yes. Meals like corn dogs, eggs, and cabbage (or lettuce idr) will increase cook speed and with Vman talent, your combined levels of all your meals will increase cooking speed.
I meant food as in boost food lol
Oh, ok lol. Sorry, misunderstood.
Its good
5 star c troll 
Absolutely. Used the first free 5* cardifier on it
just grind some gems buy another 😄
Yea I have 2400 gems
cardify, cardify, CARDIFY
And 9k kruk keys I dont know how will I use it
There's a little button in the top, looks like a refresh, uses more when you're done
Those kruk keys are gone in seconds.
What if I want gems and do normals tho
You hit it 70x more times
I mean 9k gems sounds good
And, when you're done, if your not still alive, your children will inherit the rewards
What does kruk wings give
Oh thats good
wings gives skill xp and afk gain
trophy gives drop rate and damage
Oh, shoot I was thinking of trophy XD
9k keys > 11 seconds per run > 99k seconds, 27.5 hours for $50 worth of gems < $2/hr wage. Definitely worth it
But you're already working at a regular wage job while you're doing it......profit
What would you even do with 9K gems? I mean, I could definitely use them but what specifically should they be used on?
limited shop stuff
for me? Buy lap chips until I have a full set on everyone so I never need to open console again
My recommendations in gem shop calculator 😄 Has recommendations for every item in Tier form. If you input your data, it'll also show you how many gems you need to max each tier / the entire shop. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U3zxMn-tcQE504aObTmsKKnBycYp-Fud_Kl6vmj0poM/edit?usp=sharing
Wonder what the new rotation will be for the new update. Hopefully more cardifiers
cogs are expensive but good
Anyone actually buy these, seem very overpriced
https://i.imgur.com/OUEB224.png
bought all of em lol
I didn't, no. Got the obols for slab but not the trophies
stocked up on gold stopwatch
Did the same
I have thought about stocking up on gold stopwatches
shoulda saved some for the talent book tho
but we also all know that in w6 "oh it looks like your watch isnt moving here" type of thing
yeah. I'm debating now that you mention gold stop watches. I didn't realize they were multi-buys until this week
right, we dont rly know
I just assumed when you were offered 1 at boss, that it was 1 per week each rotation. Now that I know I can just buy the whole gem pack worth......
Other thing is, by the time w6 comes out there won't be much content left to do, so not sure if i would even want to rush it that hard
I'm more scared that W6 will come out, bosses will get new rotations, and gold stop watch becomes as rare as choco chip. So now my fomo is kicking in
Although the question is what would even fall into daily bonuses for it at those worlds.
stuff like snail envelopes likely
All the new bubbles and stamps at the very least
Yeh but they are also valued at 5 bucks each, thats steep
yeah true.
Your name is a lie!
Just follow your dreams. I dreamed about being midgame and here I am 
But yeh, those stopwatches have been tearing me apart. Expensive AF for what they do, risk of them not triggering, but also fomo as u said xD
my I just get... a little bit of stopwatches?...
I mean even if they don't work in W6 its still on demand nblb and 100 levels in a bubble of your choice on top of a dozen other things
Plus I don't see it not working in W6 as daily resets aren't world specific like candy is
The real question is, does it just reset daily or does it reset daily by moving your weekly closer? (e.g. 7x = a weekly?) xD
Like if I get my new W6 bubbles to 100m cost ill be able to atom them
Not quite on demand - Still has to proc Lithium right?
And if I stopwatch slam them I can atom them a lot all at once 
And the 5 lvls minimum
(unless lithium ignores that)
For the new bubbles yes but they would eat every lithium proc so it shouldn't be too bad
so the plan is to wait for W6 and spam stopwatch once all is unlock 😮
Either that or use during a seasonal event to do the daily quests
maybe we will have a halloween event soon
Maybe a month delayed like some of the other events xD
hahahahah close to xmas and in feburary we will have xmas event
Halloweenmas
It doesn't affect weekly resets
tho its better late than never
Can't have a free thing make doot easier can we :p
Companions aren't even tied to weekly resets
No but it still doesn't work with them
Looking forward to my next pull. Finally getting doot this time 
Right. Just saying, even if it DID, still no bonus to companions 😛
wanna see those pet rotation 😦 still have 3k greengem sleeping
@signal osprey almost didn't recognize you for a second
Yeah I finally got from early game to midgame so I figured I'd update my pfp too
I'll sample after my free Doot 😄
As for the choice of pic its because gen chat voted that I needed to get an anime girl pic so I could be a femboy 
We love Femboys 
contract is getting gen chatted 

After that I asked if it should be a human or a cat girl and we ended up on red panda girl
So then I AI image created red panda girl with a hard hat because girl knows about the bob bubble
And here we are
so you're a red panda Bob the builder femboy?
That about sums it up yeah
I had to put Bob on the backburner again. Found a few other things I should probably atom to 90%

This is my new mid game persona. Cant wait to see what I evolve into when I reach late game 
upper midgame
On which Charakter i put afk sailing speed food? Just those, who are afk at lab/divinity for like....forever?
most on your warriors wit htheir gold food talent maxed, split evenly between rest
Ah, yeah i just read the Text again. Its time on afk gain. Would be dump to put it on afk forever ones haha
yeah you have to be born into lategame sorry peasant
New mid game persona 
