#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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Active only counts base kills
Afk counts mk kills, but is limited by forge cap
Choose your poison
But yes it can be 1b vialed
how you did farmed it?
Most common occasion was to eclipse w1-w4 using candies on sb. That is also why people say to eclipse on SB than ES
i thought the afk sb kills were limited to 1 hr?
It's closer to 3 minutes for forge cap
No, an afk claim can only smelt one forge cap worth, with current mk you can get on mobs, you only need like 30 secs to cap a one forge filling
Issue is game needs 2 min to allow afk claims
ahh i see, so thats why people push for forge cap
so if i wanna farm it i need to grab the bars every couple mins?
While active farming doesnt technically have the auto arm forge cap limit, active kills somehow only counts base kills so is much slower
Claim afk every 2 min, or just use lot of 1 hr candies
The bar count on the right side is seemingly unlimited. Only the ore on the left is the issue.
Eclipse deathnote happens to be the good occasion to spam 1 hr candies
Forge can hold unlimited bars, its limited how much ores it can hold
If you are done with eclipse, then only use now i guess is gmush, or maybe like sandy pot glass farming
kk thanks mate
do "left hand of learning" and "right hand of action" count for all skills or only for the non-town skills like the "skillage damage" skill?
Do i ever have to move my shrines once i unlock the Moai Head artifact?
How are people Eclipsing on SB.
My SB's KPH is pretty rubbish compared to say my ES. Boa's like 500k/H with ES at 1M+. Eclipsing that would take forever with Candy.
My SB is also not very good for eclipsing. However I have never really focused on switching all my afk gain stuff over to him. It's just always been on BB for superchow so I just left it there.
moving through w4 now, then to finish the last 5 of w5 
my ES KPH on Gmush is 2m
Are you using candy or AFK idle?
yeah I found out the hard way that going without speed pots makes a big difference
afk idle for a day on my alts, then use candy to snag the last remaining 100-200m kills
Is there a post or video on the difference between the skulls ?
i could finish w4 all at once today if i really wanted to, but i don't want to click candy for hours @fading cape
i want to work on TD stuff today lol
Idk what half the stuff ya talking about kills with SB. I been afk them
more speed = more damage
SB dmg is 61b,
Food status lvl 150.
Speed statue 163
wtf, i got berri bush, evergreen, and chemical all in like 3 days
and was stuck on the one before that for like 2 months
im still stuck at less than 100 green bits lol
thanks for the link!
yeah gaming seemed to go really really fast for me and then very quickly levelled off
and haven't been making much progress at all
probably an alchemy problem honestly
artifcts too
Always comes back to Alchemy lol
https://htr.idleonefficiency.com/
i'm not endgame in the slightest, more end of midgame early late game i would assume
but i have 4.3t dmg on my SB, so your alchemy is way behind
youre nearly done eclipsing that has to be endgame lol
ooft
you'd like to think, but go to #endgame-gen-chat and i'm like a baby
i cant see that channel F
just finished my first gmush kill compared to some in there
Hmm, wonder how were gonna get here.. blood bone portal maybe
that's most likely new map area for the stuff he is releasing this week
its a secret path to w6
I have asked you something about Godsbane in private, have you seen it?
hope there is a quest to do to unlock it and it isn't just kill bloodbones ๐
mundane for us, but for others rift portal quest was actually hard lol
what even was the portal quest.. i dont remember
ah ok
@opaque sunbtw mate, who you are activing after finishing all active stuff? just DK for power statues?
Is it worth going diabolical gear on all my chars or should I just work towards Troll set since that converts into W5 sets?
I think i went from chizor to troll for everything
I just took a peek, that chat is stacked
i like when the statues give round flat numbers lmao idk why
Chiz in to Troll. You just make 1 Diab set for slab
yep, hence why i'm a ๐ผ there. I feel like i'm in a good place being in this chat, more people are near my progress lmao
see you in ~42 days (less depending on current status) 
if he does then w6 drop chances will be relative to the new avg i think sadly
oh wow yeah i'm only at 250k so you're over halfway done
i couldn't take it anymore, my sanity was telling me that my game needed a break
Can't wait for w6 gloves to be a 1/fuckyou chance
the forge loved me though
should i swap to 2 dk's / 2 es's or does it not matter much?
praying for something after eclipse skulls to make 1/1T drop chance worth it
Save them in case we don't get extra character slots when he does W6.
Although 2 bubo is pointless
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makes sense to me, i'll chill for now thx
Yea 100% wait
2 BB / 2DK has always been contested. I was outright told go DK but almost regret it.
How can you get Eldritch artifacts?
my 2nd barb will stay a barb and not upgrade to BB if that is the case and i'll accept slightly worse fishing on him ๐ค
Why? Surely that's just gimping yourself
someont got the gdoc of idleon ?
2sb's use is marginal but 4 wars gives you the benefits of both and more ore prints
Now that i'm further in to mid/late game 4 warriors sounds SO much better than a 2nd sb
As it stands right this second, 2dk is better.
This is primarily because of the importance of construction. The non-active DK gets better EXP (technically the active one gets worse). You can get around this by playing active BB but this is a terrible idea. Two DKs lets you max out your build speed
2BB also has a bug with super chows not working properly on one of them. Which one depends on what device you're playing on (PC: 2nd bb works, mobile: 1st bb works)
What stamps should I priorize for the 95% reduction?
Yea this was pretty how everyone summed it up back when I asked which Is why I went DK.
I also have 2 bb so am sad 
But have 2BB cooking overall just seems like it would be better at this point
The big risk with 2 bowmen is world 6 might not give us another slot immediately, at which point you need to convert your only BM to w6 class until it gets added
2BB is not optimal atm because depending on the device you are playing on the cooking is bugged
Tbh I can't see him releasing W6 without adding the extra 3 slots
Probably not
Providing W6 is next class
Please tell me that I can stop collecting lucky lad when the new update drops. I need storage space ๐ฆ
in on pc it takes the superchows from the 2nd BB, making your 1st irrelevant, and if on mobile it takes from the 1st. that's part of the reason i never made my 2nd barb a BB
but I can't take that risk ๐
excuse me did you just suggest someone should give up the very best class in the game ? the nerve of some people 

BM is thematically my favourite class but...yeah
Yea I saw, if that bug got fixed though wouldn't 2BB become instant meta?
Cooking has an end technically, so unless fishin changes nah
depends on the update, but probably a good thing to have. if it isn't fixed my barb will fish equinox and my BB will slave away like he always has... ๐งโ๐ณ 
Aren't you gimping yourself by not making it a BB? We'll get more slots eventually.
1 bb will also provide you with all the ladles you could need, so no point
I'm enjoying that we have no idea how equinox is gonna work. Pretty exciting
an end for now
oh, sick.
Fair, hopefully the 1 one reference is 11th char and ill have 2 of each
Is equinox this weeks update?
on a completely UNRELATED note, who else is annoyed that drops on seasalt island spread off screen on afk claim 
Right? Gimme that cauliflower fish card
cant wait to get 11th char, gonna try and make him lvl 100 for all skills (excluse cooking, breeding and trapping) while being lvl 1 
breeding is shared haha
100 chopping without killing any mobs? Insanity.
so, wait for garbage 9, or get the 80 stamp now? 
oak log gooo brrrr
its drop chance, geddit
it's pretty decent DR too
that's a lotta toilet logs
That's even more Flies
yeah i just know i read that someone math'd out that getting garbo 9 made the most sense mathematically. just curious if that was still the case
You could at least get Tundra Logs on the first w3 map
true, and at least fishing would be a breeze
now that I think about it, might not even be that hard, with dungeon entrance you can do bleach logs and butterfly without killing single mob
Help no body is answering me, i have every single sub class what should i take duplicate for?
!classes
One of each subclass for the six first characters, JourneyMan can be slot 7, 8 or 9. For three others characters you can do Wizard / Bowman / Barbarian / Squire.
Finals Objectives :
- 3 Warriors - 3 Archers - 3 Mages - 1 Secret Class (balanced)
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- NEVER do 3 of the same elite class, or you'll be unable to have all classes
3 of each + secret if you want be safe
10 BM if you want to be cool 
what this equinox ? do we know something about update alrdy ?
I have 3of each + secret sub class, but what should I take as my ninth Character
So waiting is better?
he uploaded beta 8 hours ago so it's Soon โข๏ธ
BM BUFF INCOMING
if you have 3 of each class + secret, you should have 10 used up
Is beta public access?
No no, I meant each subclass
I know. depends on size of update. most often it's 1-2 days ๐
Bowman, hunter,barb, Squire, shaman, wizard, journeyman
oh, thats, well people got lots of different opinions, best really wait for update 
Ok
In the past, he said "in a few days or sooner" and then it was 12 hours later. Who knows? ๐ค
Wouldn't surprise me to see "this week" be "tomorrow"
lava's yes men
(pick me too lava i won't say nothin' ๐ค )
its lava, maybe his code breaks once again and it takes 2 weeksy who knows
yep i posted that earlier too
He usually does Fridays for the better optics on steam but nothing to stop it being tomorrow, indeed
I'm just trying to get 500 before the update drops 
and that update scoli and i mentioned was on a monday
SHOOT FASTER LITTLE SB, THEY'RE ON YOUR PORT SIDE
I hope it's not rift lol. Doing even more challenges feels incredibly time consuming.
Rift tier as in scalw
Mostly feels that way cause it is time consuming though
Oh, ok. I thought you meant that it could be. A rift bonus lol.
I wouldn't hate that..
Printing would suck though
And since Lava decided "no candy in rift" who's to say he won't decide "no prints in equinox"
Not like we print Rift monster mats. Why assume we would print Equinox resources?
yeah doesnt sound very fun
I hope its just BM buff and everything else gets nerved into the ground
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More than likely BM won't ever get buffed, at least until we get esoteric classes
Finally, a job for Vman
Please be better exp, even if no cards
i know it says ~8/day but i get 10/day, so only checks notes 44 days until i unlock fractal
then 20 days after that until i unlock rando island book
probably will be sooner with grabage bottle increase at some point
We already get vials, but no cards sounds like a bit much
If cards, pls be a separate set
We confirmed have new Equinox vials?
Yeah, the equinox mats will have vials
Where was that? I missed it
Yeah, Lava said all equinox mats will have a vial
Ah. Interesting

Heck one of the gods might be equinox themed
my vman skills round the clock anyways. not much else for him to do anyways lol
...what if you have to link to badgur to go to the equinox?
This is no longer Lava's game, this is Doot's game. Doot calls the shots. And those shots are aimed right for our pockets. 
Honestly, I don't want to farm any more of these cards.
Hard Resources is overcrowded, especially when compared to Easy and Medium. We need a new tier.
did u cardify kraken?
cant wait for 7 star cards 
In order to get 7 star we need 6 star... Although I'm not opposed to the idea...
technicly we alrdy at 6, at least thats how lava sees it cuz rift says so
That's level 6, not 6 stars
u right, i miss rememberd that he calls them lvl 6 not 6star 
All good lol
Should we start a petition for 5 star cardifiers to be permanently in gem shop?
Could give literally anything. W2 card set literally upgrades food.
The problem with a new card set is how hard the scaling would have to be, due to how little resources there's likely to be
dang this W2 boss thing. i have only buff stuff barely any dmg i cant kill all the difficulties ๐ฆ
Also, when are we getting the rest of the crafting recipes? There's still things for tab 1 that say "Not available yet"
Gotta resample now.
Guys I have suggestion for game would guys like to rate it?
I would like to see a corruption coin that can buy the currupted items wish are very powerful for dead entitys that can be got by killing world 5 boss and 1.2% chance and can have the corruption accessory wish is bought for 50 corruption that encrase currupted rage wish will be a ability when having corruption armor will give 150% boost
to attack speed and damage
for 25 seconds and hope u like it and add it to the game

It's for w5
And if there any thing u can guys add tell me
im scared of ghost
you can and you WILL ๐บ
But that is 1 Time use
multiplicative mwhaha
I should backtrack some
https://i.imgur.com/Xty3FJK.png
could be useful for shimmer island dps, but besides that really seems pointless, wouldnt even be good for vman speedrun
or a ghost food ๐
Are you even W5? that suggestion sounded very ehhh....
i did it :D
now the same thing for skills, skill speed + eff, that would be something
samples go to the fkn noon
moon
ffs thank you so much for the reminder, i keep forgetting!!!
should i do dr, ref speed or base stats next?
Gmush Vman run sample for atoms the best? or what. going to resample
How much coins should one roughly expect per 1k balls?
idk
i will do the snake skin one then
i had a brain fart and bought the 500 balls, but i hit the jackpot so i got 2x the gems it cost and got 10k coins
i ownder how people can get the Base dmg bubble at lv 3000+ when it cost me 700 atom per lvling ๐ฎ
i can get around 20k on a good skill chance day
for reference, im big noob
true i didnt resample for a while
yeah im far from even reaching 100k hmm
i mean i didnt resample for a long time so there might be a huge hange
Which is even nicer in printing
https://i.imgur.com/T9vDzz7.png
hocus choppus does it have a cap lvl to go for?
So i picked up a book lv 245... no where to be found in my inventory... ๐ฎ
90-95% effect from the bubbles are good to shoot for
i used a book on Mana overdrive.... and i got Archer book... uh
i am on my elemental sorcerer*
nope aint no misclick
i used the book on my mage and it did work tho so im confused
my first book is gone though so i'll try to reporduce
now its fine... uhm uhm...
everyone says the meta for power statues are at beans... but beans say they dont have that in the drop tables.. can someone explain why this is meta
crystalss
beans is a good map for dk, most power statues come from crystals, dk best crystal farmer
where do i get crystal mob chance, my DK is about level 160 and im havent come across a whole lot of crystal mob chance
Card, stamp, shrine, choco chip
card stamp shrine choco chip (card doubler)
ohhhh my
looks like i have some more grinding yet 
also does anyone know if clan GP carries over, im in a dead clan with 8000 gp not being used
form me alone
Nope.
dont think so
sad ๐ฆ
better to dip if inactive
Honestly, as long as the clan is max ranked, doesnt matter how active it is imo
im assuming its not if they are wondering about gp not being used
That was my assumption too. They could have also been wondering about the achievements for collecting X amount of GP, though I think the highest is 3k..?
looks like it
i just have 8k gp personally and theres over 20k not used so i just want all of the bonuses that you upgrade with them
Ah. Yep, nothing you can really do if the leaders are inactive.
if aynone would like a decent guild contributor then im available lol
#1073780959087964210 is the place to go
ooh thx ๐
how many gems should you get on average per kill on chizoar ๐ค just heard someone else say they get way more than this the other day
looks pretty normal to me
0.7 ish
alright ty
its actually more than 1 if you count the boss keys
with key drops you end up slightly higher
Yeah if you consume the dropped keys, I tend to be slightly over 1 gem per key
rolling my doot now
wish me luck
Break a leg
got motli 
Whodathunk
collectin all the motli
i collect sheeps
what do you call a group of motli?
Moltiplying
Real bruh moment
i vote for motli crew
We are all playing a demo of the game, real game starts when u unlock doot
Nah, Doot is the cheatcode for Easy Mode
alpha is pre choco chip, beta is post, doot is real game
this games weird, took me like a year to get 1T damage, hit 2T within a week of 1T. I guess i had some untapped sources
got eldritch steak, which accounts for a chunk of it
at some point you just get hella dmg out of left field
true, but im not exactly rushed through, ive been playing long enough to be waiting on worlds coming out
anybody needs a scarf? lol
the rest of it probably came from finnaly pushing my archers alchemy, had been doing wizard and warrior mostly for sampling up till then
filter time 
lol yeah, problem is that filter is full
lol, 10 is probably enough?
roll for 5 slots then perfect 5 kruk stones
whats the point? lol, the divine scarf is soo much better
for boss cards, should i be doubling card drop chance or just go full DR?
both, card% snapshots on map entry
snapshot on bosses?
i thought that didnt work (pretty sure)
anyway, snapshotting is to much work / time
Finally...
welcome
Would be funny if this increased fall speed when jumping down a platform and decrease speed when jumping up. By 17% ofc :p
Cleared rift 46 this morning and was like "I've been skilling, fighting and carding so much I'm about to get a huge damage boost."
Then like 3 cards turned red, I clicked one to see how many I needed to turn it red and died a little inside.
I know the feel
So. Many. Oranges.
suprisingly tho using like 1 1h candy on my bb legit got me 4 red cards for fishing XD
Daaaaaang
I did get one of the new fish as red so that made me happy
Right now in targeting gains, speed and efficiency lower level cards to try and speed up the higher level acquisitions.
then again I am so lazy that my resamples are this far apart...
I just resampled my stragglers after 4 months of not sampling with them at all, I feel that. Lol
Every time I think I'm slacking too hard, someone else shows they are worse 
ye... now I can finally work on those pesky fishing vials
stop they are already dead ๐
and the dr bubble
I have more slack than an abandoned power pole
More slack than a loose streamer caught in a windstorm
getting 4k atom per sample skill.. hmmm ๐ฆ seems low
4k per printer go brr?
yeh
Are you at 7 hours?
why wont autoloot loot everything at amarok? pretty annoying
i have 229m sample with the god, and 274m also with the god on logs, and 167m on copper ore
at 8hour
whats ur artifact at
wich one is it already
I think IT is saying I get 50k per printer go brr? Idk, never been sure
gold relic?
top one ye
i just resample it is 1.03
mmm
have you checked your breakdown on IT like how scoli mentioned?
There is also IT
IT shows the printer atom gain
!It
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ohhh
but it likely just feeling less because of the loss of the gold relic if you had it stacked
do you guys put it at 1050m ? or not
yep
okay so thats not a prob
no point in lower
For me IT is better for looking at stats and stuff I should be doing, but IE to specifically check a skill/mechanic. For some reason I find IT too confusing sometimes
3.1k/hr (6hour) but the skill tell me 8hr
'print 8 hours of printer sample instantly' the site tell me 6hr
287
doot, slug, and frog have evaded me lol
but yeah i got 4.2k/hr i was at 180 atom when i did the brrr so i can approx calculate it was 4k per Brrrr
it does feel low when im printing 458M () and 548M() log and 334M copper ore
Wait isnt it supposed to be a swirl for the max print amount? ๐ฎ
What's a good research chance to shoot for before clicking the button?
0.1%
depends on where you look, in game swirl for both lab and hare god yeah
as low as possible
yes
yeah 'collect all' and then try your luckl
is what i was going for
@sick sentinel having artic on people does ti count toward swirl?
whats swirl?
Printer sample swirl
but with myt elemental sorcer i ahve Artic+Hare
lab is blue 2x, gold is god 3x, purple is both
that works
then its a visual glitch
oh cool it worked
arctis and hare will give 6x outside lab if thats what ur asking
oh wait noooo i too snehebatu for sampling first
yeah now it's swirling. so my sample will be lot higher next time
farming 6k keys for the worm quest is gonna take a while ...
the 6x deostn affect samples for next time, just multiplies your current samples
Is there a way to check CCD on IE/IT?
ah i got you now
just started that the other day, getting 100+/h on ES.
Worse is to think about the 60k if you want to do the quest on all alts 
now time to do the Tower defense personal dmg
players, vman, skills at bottom
on ie
the Mush is kinda gating me from doing that... thank god for that
2k left statue for my ES to finish his statue quest
best way to farm w1 boss keys is w1 colo?
That too xD
But mush at least isnt a grind
really anoying that it's now max 2 tho ...
max 2 what
sounds like just 1 more one hour candy on dreadlo ore then
yeah true i could do that i didnt think
minibosses, you cant get to 3 mush or slush
you can, just have to wait longer
no, you legit cant anymore
wut, since when?
since when
I waited a month, had 2 bosses
i killed 3 slush 2 days ago
could be a bug then ig ...
U can definitely get more than 2
2k statue on dreadlo ore with 1hr candy? how you do that bruh xD
should easily get around 1k +/-
~2k would be more for warri afaik
on my ES i get 192 lumber statue with 1hre candy..
How much DR do you need for 1k/h?
then you just didnt setup your character..
yeah how much
are you 62 skill speed?
oh nope,
your* afk gain must also be low
100% efficiency, dr, skill speed and afk rates affect statue gains
i didnt think about skill speed true
i'll keep that in mind when i do my other character tonight
Now im curious what yours was xD
I wish you could afk bosses if you can kill them super fast
Train your little brother to click every few seconds
hahahahaha
My baby brother is 18, he's got shit to do too lol
not anymore
These Food for mining
Having a high Food Effect from Statues also really helps
I nearly get 62 with the pearl alone
okay yeah i got 62 speed
dont even need them all, as long as u hit 62 speed
i just forgot the food xD
When using Candy: Only use 1 Food and disable the automatic refill in Auto Arm (W3 Town)
1 Food is enough for the whole candy
It seems like I'm missing several inventory bags on the slab. Is it even possible to get the ones that are quest rewards if I already have 10 characters who have done those quests?
if you cant reclaim them then not rn
gotta wait for 11th
What a shame. It's a bit silly that it doesn't count if you don't actually pick it up
oh well, waiting is the name of the game after all
i only have to use the pearl on the right now to reach 62 speed, and soon it will just be the blue ore food since that puts me to 58 by itself 
Uncapped speed and multi ore/log with next Companion rotation 
for the personal dmg in the worship do i jsut run ice/kraken?
i played like normal and just auto'd
it's REALLY silly that he capped mining and chopping, meanwhile fishing and catching are zoomin
i mean multi hit could help a lot on warrior one like my DK
granted there are other talents that benefit chopping and mining more
can i use midas in w2 colo if i dont do 2 runs in 1 orb?
midas still increases the hp of the skilling nodes making them take longer to despawn
i will say that i didn't realize orb worked if it wasn't on the screen anymore so others might know more
what he's meaning is does orb last a full run even with midas on and i dont know about that. i dont do 2 runs on colo2 anyway but that may be different if you have slug
Believe it was either topbird or contract or someone was explaining, even if u leave map/zones etc. and dont see the counter, it still works. HOWEVER, the orb amount does reset back to 0 apparently.
Was about a month ago i learned about it from them/whomever it was.
yeah on map refresh, if hte icon is still up in the top right then it counts up from 0
and without any +hp prayers, you should be able to do 2x colo runs
Just spent my 3.5k Arcade balls
0 stamps ๐ฆ
1 Jackpot I believe.
24k coins*
Whats your orb lvl?
i rather check sb's in between runs to sorta work on that
change orb back to 267
Get orb to 300, remove PO box
if you can't get it to over 300 you're losing out
270 is the limit
i thought 267 was?
Not worth it if your max orb is 270
wdym
think break even was like 280's like 286 or something. Forgot what it was.
i can get it to 300
Ah, thought you meant 270 was your limit (as in max)


How
lv8 XD
Yeah how seems like an odd question tbh
At least it isnt this
(buddies image)
I get 4 captains with low stats every day without even trying
Speaking of, REMINDER on the last resource gold trade!
https://i.imgur.com/U35kldK.png
I guess I do have one good green
(yours better once leveled)
https://i.imgur.com/jPeKTWj.png
now if only I can get some eldritch....that would be amazing, been on a really bad streak of no artifacts lately
remove sb talent 11, spread out gold hampters, max po box, lvl alch bubble and check every ~4-6 hours, ezpz :d
Is dk orb DR boost multiplicative? so if i get 6 orb kills it multiplies my DR by 1.06?
It's technically a 2ndery roll chance afaik*
a second roll using 6% of my current DR?
Im tryna see if DK on efaunt is just better than Vman since u get 6 orb stacks
So
0-99 Orb stacks is the % chance for a 2nd roll on drops for a kill
100+ Orb stacks would guarantee a 2nd roll
100-199 is essentially 1 extra roll guaranteed with 2nd roll chance.
200+ would guarantee a 3rd roll
200-299 is the guarantee 3rd roll with a chance at 4th roll
etc.
All rolls using your DR, this is what makes DK so strong for crystals, as you are essentially getting multiple rolls per kill. It's not really increasing DR but rather rolling multiple drops (which essnetially does increase your rate of getting rares faster)
Took 17 weeks, but the AFK-only alt has made it to W5 
Short answer: no. At only 6 stacks, you're looking at a 6% chance for double loot. Whereas your Jman, I'm sure, has 60% or higher chance. (Not to mention Jman has the ONLY source of increased DR inside rare bags specifically)
Vman > Archer > others for bosses, those orb stacks are too low to be relevant
aite thanks guys
Although honestly, I kill Efaunt with my ES
Chainbolt kills all of the limbs with a single cast and I don't have to use my brain
just realized all my efaunts are still 4* :/
whoa, how do you get so many cards on those one off bosses?
lol
like yaga
but one per day on dr def
Yaga spawns every hour, plus is present in the W1 Colo. Very easy to farm.
is colo max 3 a day?
Yeah Dr. Def got cardified
lol ok
3 tickets from normal means, but you can also get more tickets from PO6.
Or just be me and never use them anyway and have nearly 600 stashed
Just saw that it says discord knows exactly when the new update will be, but I don't see anything besides the "this week"?
But itll pop up here when it is ready
Ah
did u farm this? insane amount needed
Cardifiers
the other NM bosses had nowhere close to that amount
I farmed everything up to 4* naturally. Used 5* cardifiers on Dr. Def, Boops, plus the Nightmare versions of all 5 world bosses. Everything else was a natural farm to 5*.
alright
Guys is there a set rotation for the trade offer in sailing or is it random, And how often does the material needed change for it?
guess il farm some gems for cardifiers, lol
Set schedule, changes every 6 hours. You can use IdleonToolbox to see the rotation, or there is a spreadsheet somewhere in the pins..
Darn, was wondering why I kept disconnecting and having trouble today. Now there's a full outage. Rip
Thanks!
This should tide you over for a while if you're too lazy to go look lol
Although huh.. those times/dates seem kinda whack
For hardest efaunt, do you Cardify or grind it?
Farmed to 4 star, cardified to 5*
Oh, maybe someone can confirm for me
Is your printer bonus from skill mastery .07 too high? Both of my accounts are, on both IE and IT
I ignored it on the main as I thought maybe the 1%s were somehow multiplicative or something, but the alt account doesn't even have the Rift unlocked so makes no sense
take him for the memes maybe lava will rework how they work and BAM he's the best for newer islands that may or may not work out in the future
What's a good divinity level to aim for before I take people out of lab? I have doot and everything active but I know that div levels help minor link bonuses
what's this treat that suddenly showed up in companions?
And do I have any choice but to buy it?
when you get the passive divinity xp
if you already unlocked all gods
Screenshots with questions help a lot. Assuming you're talking about the tier treats, they increase odds for higher-quality pets and reduce the odds for lower-quality pets. There is no option NOT to use them.
It's a semi-issue because the highest tier treat, tier 5, sets White-tier companions to 0%. If you somehow managed to not roll one of them, you're just locked out ๐
ohhhh, so it's just like the broccoli
i was confused because it said a random companion will come eat it ^^ I was afraid that's for upgrading companions
87 cards left for the 4 star Caulifish. Almost there. Vmann is at level 130+ fishing lol
Thats a lot of maybe xD (coming soon, in 2028)
Divinity level is irrelevant, its about unlocking gods. Check pins. you want goat asap.
Do you mean the TranQi style? Gives 3 exp even when not meditating.
Also do I need to unlock all gods even if I have doot?
I've got doot, do I still need to manually unlock?
lol, i've been reworking some stuff, i have a spreadsheet but been busy irl so its not fully finished
i just see you post that like everyday lol
Very helpful, thanks
they lucked out they dont need no help
check dm
Moved my two SB to gmush now that all 10 have the divine quest done, on about 33m kills/hr between them 
what is the best strategy for rift with 3 tears in hour?
es/bubo and walk away
walk away I know:P
if you don't get it in an hour then you're trying too much too early
ty for advice
its !minechart etc. but use #bot-commands and you can see stuff there
got 2 in 5 min already on es
ahhh the real challenge of the royal wurm questline, the troll kills
fair distinction
not like something like.... kill nightmare kruk on vman with the boxing glove 1k times or something
Please don't give him any more ideas to use the Boxing Gloves
Would it be a good assumption that the next update is the halloween event?
And that its coming on 14th?
thats a lot of content to push
No idea!
It could be halloween, another standalone mechanic like the weekly battles, or w6
how many companions can i buy with 400 green gems?
depends on ur treat tier
Not many
does it raise with each tier?
1 roll costs me 180
Yeah
thats fucked
The odds of a better pet also raises
what tier r u
4
do I start doing eclipse skulls now I think this is enough for now
i doubt it's w6, the teasers he's been posting seem like another standalone mechanic that takes place in w3
If your gmush kills are in the millions per hour itโs slow but doable
so basically you spend 6$ for a 0.5% for doot
i wonder how much people spend to get him
Helps if you have some candy to spare
Doot is guaranteed after a few hundred pulls.. 200? 300? But that's like $500
think of it like this:
if ~ 1m kills/hr on X mob, then it will take 1000 hours to eclipse it
if you get more than that it will take less time. it is honestly worth it is imo once you have at LEAST 5m kills/hr on a mob
ah I am at 3m at beans
from what I remember the guaranteed doot requires green gems though
my mk is so bad still dont have the mk artifact
He has 4+ years to consider changing that before it ever matters for F2P anyway.
ehh all i want is the ram
When is the update ?
From what we know doots effect might be rift 200 or w7 reward
I just want doot so I can freely use all my characters and not keep like 7 in jail of various designs
future-conten-blog said sometime this week
Oh okay I just got kicked from game on a dungeon run
You have the exact same info we do.
So sad lmao
so that will take you roughly 333 hours (subtract time for whatever you already have)
Yeah.. 
I know
Thanks again ya always on point
can you guys think of any ways to minimize exp gain other than maximizing multikill and the prayer that reduces exp gain? Yes, I know it isn't good, but that is my question
exp gain for class or skills?
class
equip all the max hp prayers
What does maximizing multikill have to do with reducing class exp? ๐ค
question is to minimize exp gained unlocking portals, multikill would effectively do that if I'm not mistaken
Ah, you left that portal part out lol
my bad
that fiber prayer
why would you minimize exp gain?
as I said, there is no good reason for it. But this is one of my alts, trying to progress with min class level
Best I can think is the printer prayer ๐
yup, currently grinding that and multikill
wanted to see if anyone had other ideas
based
How big of a contributor to DR is the plunderous kills talent from SB?
Not much
It only applies to the plunderous mobs
Huge for at least the first 10k
I've been linked that before, but I just dont see anything there
The plunderous drop rate doesnโt apply to any of the normal mobs and the plunderous mobs donโt spawn frequently enough to be a major bonus
Well great it worked now xD
Pretty sure they meant archlord
Compared to ES DR increase which is every mob out of the portal or DK to every
Yeah I meant the talent which is affected by numbers of plunderous kills
Ah, thatโs different
It is pretty decent
Yeah it is a significant boost, at least for first 10-100k
After that it is small compared to how long it takes
Rift slug would make it that tad bit stronger too 
what is the maximum talent level at right now? trying to figure out what I'm missing becides artifact
oh, so if I'm at 220 then the artifact is all I'm missing then
oh, what bonus is that then?
Like, you can get 300/245
Probably eldritch Fury Relic
this also
Tab4 Symbols of Beyond, up to +13
Bear god in Divinity, up to +15
ES family talent, +10 at level 420 ES. Grows forever.
Rift Slug companion for +25
Max total level is roughly 310/245 minus the exceptions.
Things like rift slug, bear minor link, ES family, signs talent in tab 4 all add up to get you to over 300 effective talent out of 245
hmm, I'm only +15
Ooh, didnโt know the maximums there
What div level do the minor link bonuses max at?
15 technically isn't max. You can go over 15 with the Big P bubble
Cool, what level div level does the base blessing max at though? Or is it another asymptotic bonus?
It is like alch, approaches 15 but never reaches it ๐คท
I'm not sure what level is a decent one to call soft-capped
With level 110 divinity, I have 9.71 / 15 from Bear before Big P
Yeah. I'm not aware of any calculators out there, so can only go off of what I actually have available
I was hoping more like div 100 = 14/15
Divinity_Level / (60 + Divinity_Level) * Big_P_Bubble(min 1) * (God's_Max_Passive)
Level 60 = 50% of max
Level 100 = 62.5%
Level 200 = 77%
Level 300 = 83%
Level 550 = 90%

but those % are based on if Big P was lvl 1 ?
Uneqipped, technically
90% of Big P is 1.45x, caps at 1.5x
Mhm, my big P is 1.45x ๐ (lvl 550)
Some other nerd can confirm. I believe that Bear value is ceilinged, while ES family is floored. So Bear of 14.01 = 15. ES of 14.99 = 14.
How do I trigger the divinity lvl quest?
My character is lvl 60 divinity I just havenโt done the quest and I canโt even get the lvl 25 one to trigger
hop on the div alter and go back
can you abandon the quest and start again?
Iโll try
Another vial down ๐
https://i.imgur.com/Kyx6Aan.png
wow, nice. that's a lot of souls. don't think I've collected that many aggregate
do you collect with your ES?
I get around 1.5m blue souls per click right now
I might need to pick your brain on what I'm missing sometime lol
most likely species epoch lvls from your vman
Yo game keep fucking closing middle of dungeon second world
Total level on worship/traps on vman
This is all I've done
Accidentally left frost while on the 130 boss 
Just waiting for the update before i reattempt
For the no-lag runs
right, collect souls with vman before total collect with es?
That, but also check IE what's max XP per charge for vman
and also, i never really did ES until this week
where are those bonuses from again?
Gaming
Superbits
my vman
needa pump that WAY higher
and im guessing your trapping isnt that high either
how?
My vman traps holding me back :/
Same
My vman
have transfusion maxed and active and equip balance of proficiency and any other skill exp you can get on vman
since skill eff doesnt matter for worship exp
and eventually start doing crystal countdown once the exp requirements get really high
I constantly forget about transfusion 
how ludicrous is it to try and green sesame seeds?
finaly some cog session after months
how many of these do I need
Barely any, since it caps at lvl 50
finally got catching to 750+, mainly was just lazy lol idk if crafting, mining or chopping will get to 1000 first
I should try another vman run...I need more points lol
yeah 5 div pearls give 2 levels if starting from 0% exp so most likely won't need to many at all
Level 20 to 50 = 30 levels, /.4 = 75 pearls per skill from lvl 20 to 50.
Mainly only needed for cooking, maybe early fishing. Be sure to baloon the very beginning.
750 cooking when for us :[
That left row and worship is an eyesore... get that 1k xD
mkay lol
I was just gonna save them and see if they work on w6 skills
when he releases onyx or equinox or dusk pearls to 75/100 probably 
kkkkkkkk
so 750 to get all to max cooking tho ig
well, yeh one saves them ig for the just incase scenario, although #doubt
https://i.imgur.com/2jvrxxm.png

he could just fix cooking exp. so weird that its bad
yeah knowing lava they wont work in w6
well seeing as how they didn't work on current world skills already, you'll be waiting until w7 for that. which by then hopefully you'll be at lvl 50 anyways for those skills
Beautiful
yeahhhhh i know 
Why you cropping the other skills, show me >:)
Just realized, i beat your mine+woodcutting ๐

what about mine guys
buddha you somehow have 2x the xp rate on me i cant keep up
cog
feasty diff
Skill issue literally
Fishing? Do you have all 3 boost foods?
literally...
is it worth it to gamble for jewels if i dont whale? i have 2k gems rn
Hows this for a screenshot ๐
good?
You get all jewels eventually, so YES!
My best one, dont be afraid ||jk||
||https://i.imgur.com/QcnBoU9.png||
Beans best all round crystal spot for dk?
@pearl cedar you're just jelly cause yours was 
That's true
is there a jewel tier list?
Why push anvils so much further on all alts? ๐
Honestly its all believable except the trapping
Yo anyone else having issues with world 2 dungeon
Not yet
I'm go check world 3 chat
Uhh more carry cap
2
honestly dude i just claim my thread and dont even look at the lvl
Mhm, for anvil? must have big bubble on speed ig
And it takes like 10 minutes to get 130-140 crafting
i get some luck bubble clicks
is the pyrite rhinestone jewel one of the good ones?
all jewels are good if you dont have em
Well except the orange dmg one
alright you got me there
Why is that one not good?
Its additive with half a dozen other bonuses so it ends up being like 1-2% damage in most cases
Ahh didnโt realize it was additive
are the only things that increase artifact chance the artifact and the captains traits?
Shiny pets
ooooh
Also I think a new fractal island boost
It's additive and ehhh
Tbh I maxed sailing a long time ago
So I forgot most stuff for it
I hated sailing too much rng 
fair, im like halfway through eldritch artifacts rn
just use insight to find what things give you a specific bonus, usually has it all
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=artifact
Search every bonus in Idleon!
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
hey guys what does fuel time mean? is it the number of days worth of ingredients it has?
update when
Anything special to know when killing nightmare kattlekruk to get capes/pendants off of him?
How can I see crystal spawn chance
What does that mean
Not rly, just pump drop rate and pray
!ie
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!it
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Power up your Legends of Idleon adventure with Idleon Toolbox's essential tools and resources for optimizing gameplay, character builds, crafting, and more.
Thx
thx
Np
Once you get in to either of those its under players tab stats
so this new update is most likely w6 right?
Itโs the side quests lava was talking about I would assume
And hopefully the toggleable td dmg numbers for less lag in td
Maybe one day toggle numbers in main game too 
i just want toggle gilded stamps ๐ฆ
yay I got to ruby cards
I just do sets of 5 days
So I can optimize the 90% discount too
is the random cape equip worth it?
If you get a good cape
which cape is the best
i have like 50 built up and idk what to spend them on
The golden afk rose I think?
Saved for too long ๐ฆ
If you wanna chase dmg potion % stamp is good
Boosts move pots that boost quick slap
is there a stamp tier list?
Not to my knowledge
Multi tool and the carry cap stamps are good
I use a lot of my gilded on carry cap when I donโt know what to use
ty
Does eggshell not stack to 100%?
maybe, but I don't think it sticks around long enough either? I didn't use eggshell pets for much
I believe it caps at 90%
The slab, just like Looty McShooty before it, has always required the item be picked up off of the ground.
Anything you craft directly into your inventory, or receive as a quest reward directly into your inventory, doesn't get counted.
It's an annoying system regardless, but yeah if you don't know that early on it can burn you ๐ฆ
so do I got to wait for new characters
for a lot of items
cuz I did the quests on all my characters so far
and sold the bad items
Depends on the item, but probably yes. Some of them can be reclaimed through the Quest menu
Like the Mining Certificate
yeah Im not missing that
all the ones are like the katana necklace
MCR shirt
W1 quests
thanks Ill drop all my trophys and nametags
Ah. Yep, those can't be reclaimed. You're SOL until a new character
I know nobody loves having to rely on 3rd party tools, but IT and IE have sections for you to review.
https://www.idleonefficiency.com/account/slab
https://idleontoolbox.com/account/slab
i been using it
Cool. Hopefully you won't miss anything new then. Just suffer until 11th slot ๐ฅฒ
He has made several pity upgrades since w5 slab was introduced though, so maybe we can see more in the future
We can dream
I remember watching the Twitch stream where he was saying that, tried to demonstrate it, and it didn't work ๐
I keep getting "close" on Slab, then he adds more.. Always stuck at missing ~75
Although like 30 of those are dungeon weapons for non-warriors
Once I can afford the final rank, I'll clean those up.
im hoping when new chars get added ill pick off a bunch of the silly one s i missed
and yeah, dung weaps
Wait.. is ice 4 the final weapon?
not ice 5?
Did I finish buying them and not realize? ๐
Wish I could buy flurbos... I'd be happy with 1 godshard coin for 1 flurbo even
I can't stand the dungeon content and my slab hates me for that
Yooo, does this mean ANY afk? Like fighting mobs too?
Yes
Thanks mate
Crafting works fine for me and slab
What dungeon level are you at?
whats the max drop chance stat on silver pop obols
Hey when do the bonuses from the slab kick in? I found it, but it doesn't give me anything yet
Cloud save
sailing artifact
You have to unlock the bonuses from gaming and sailing I think
u need the rubix cube
Wasnโt sure if gaming also gave some stuff
from the first island
Rubix cube is an artifact from sailing?
ya
Donโt remember all the gaming bonuses
Cool, must be the one I haven't found yet
50% sailing speed is a gaming bonus
so
my reclaiming question
can u not reclaim a item from quests more than once a day
different items
I wasn't aware of any limit, but I've also never had a need to reclaim more than one so idk
are the +bit% artifacts op or nah?
That might be the case though. I reclaimed one item just fine, second one doesn't seem to do anything
You mean one giant list of 300 items that scrolls in chunks isn't user friendly? 
but it is sorted so well idk how you could have problems
yeahhhh
I now have only 439 items missing
most of them obols and dungeon stuff and items I cant craft yet
and event stuff
check pins
Not time candy
So I'm still relatively new to W5 and I got this, yet I don't see it unlocked in the W2 post
Does it have another req to show up (as in does page2 of the post office crates needs something else?)
thanks mate haha
XD knew what you were thinking ๐
Unlock W4 colo Po boxes and final order in PO first
aight cool, tyty for the info
does upgrading trapper drone also upgrade hunter's eye?
Nope, they're individual
ah, is there a point to upgrading trapper drone then?
more critters per harvest



