lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[primal bison]

Who’s best at grinding money? I’ve had best luck with ES so far

[fallow aurora]

everybody uses bubo

[primal bison]

I tried bubo… it just seemed really slow with their respawn skill, not spawning fast enough. Would increased mob spawn gear improve this?

[signal osprey]

What map were you on?

[primal bison]

Tremor, does he require a flat map like oranges

[signal osprey]

No tremor is his best map assuming you can one shot everything. If not then yeah go to oranges

What does your skill bar look like?

[dapper prism]

No, mob respawn comes from tente talent in combination of resurrect talent, and will once lvl 200+ tente basically insta respawn mobs over and over. Mob Respawn will be useless

Bubo Gifs*
Here's how the map will look (once you 1 shot stuff), you can see wurms barely surviving a fraction of a second
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

Here how your talent bar will be, you can see resurrect going off constantly:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

Keep in mind, for proper money you want a lot of Gmush kills for the lab bonus that multiplies money.
As an example with ~100b Gmush kills and active Bubo I got ~200k+ Blue coins in 4-5 days

[bleak gust]

is it useful to have mman do get hands skilling if i only have harr

[dusty garden]

How can i finish the final pet battle?

[safe harness]

you have to time the block if using the monolithic team

[small lantern]

Any tips on how to meet refinery demands on Void Dust? I keep running out of void bars and I've got 3 lava-boosted, gemstore-boosted forge slots making them...

Am I forced to just farm gmush with my archers for the forge progress?

[prisma furnace]

Having a SB on gmush definately makes sure you have enough

I had to go up to 8 slots on void bars before I just sent a SB to gmush

[small lantern]

Thanks. Not even sure if that'll be enough if doot-elephant keeps giving me refinery time

[prisma furnace]

Hah, sounds like a luxury problem i unfortunately dont have yet

[glossy rain]

I swear i was seeing someone gettin more bonus types from slap... or was i seeing things?

[tacit tulip]

lol wasn't expecting so many souls from one succ

extra vial done I guess

[sonic monolith]

Is it just me? Or did lava nerf golden watches?

[unkempt quest]

What's your highest wave

[tacit tulip]

130

[unkempt quest]

Damn how'd you get so many

[sonic monolith]

Coz I'm not getting any daily bubbles from golden watches anymore.

[tacit tulip]

probs onyx statues to blame

[tacit tulip]

there's not been a patch so doubt it - though I've not spent any of mine yet

[sonic monolith]

Is there a cap on the level of bubbles the daily thing can upgrade?

Also, where can I find the thing that gives us the daily bubbles to begin with? I can't remember what it's from.

[tacit tulip]

not as far as I'm aware - it's a lab bonus node

[sonic monolith]

Ah

[pulsar condor]

any tips for rift 44 (ES wormhole score of 60)?

[tacit tulip]

you need approx 120B damage to do it

1. As much attacking talent levels as possible (tornado, portal etc)
2. Stand in the bottom left tiny platform

summon your portal here and go ham

[prisma furnace]

is that with the small platform trick?

[tacit tulip]

the attack talents are essential, I did it before having great levels in them and needed closer to 200b

[prisma furnace]

Roger, I've pretty much paused my Rift journey after I unlocked eldritch

[true anchor]

What dmg should you start pushing rift

[prisma furnace]

Guess i'll wait till I hit 100b+ dmg before I consider continueing

The start of rift is quite easy tbh

And getting the auto trapping and infinite star signs is pretty nice imp

imo*

[true anchor]

What lvl are those again?

[tacit tulip]

Those are the early unlocks

6/11 I think?

[prisma furnace]

6 and 11 I think?

[tacit tulip]

infinite starsigns are honestly great to get, the trapping bonus is nice but unessential

[prisma furnace]

Whats the chance that we both are fools, 6 and 11 it has to be xD

[true anchor]

I’ll try today probably I’m only wt like 40m dmg on my bubo

[tacit tulip]

you won't know til you try - if it's not possible then come back with better stuff 🙂

Some missions might wall you on stuff like how fast you kill things. DK orb mission is a menace until you get more orb level, movespeed etc

later missions are more just DPS checks - you have the talent levels you just need to actually kill them

[pulsar condor]

Im stuck at 47 wormhole kills 😦

[tacit tulip]

yeah you're gonna need more damage

you're on 25B

[pulsar condor]

oh god

welp gonna need a lot more books

[safe tangle]

Did it with 70b damage high level books are key or u can lvl up crit statues since onyx gives a big buff

[pulsar condor]

I need to finish the onyx quests on other chars. But I have all 25 onyx

[thorn marsh]

there a trick to getting that much mana?

[thorn marsh]

fair point :p

[pulsar condor]

Also 12.5k grilled cheese nomwich

[thorn marsh]

I have 33k (:

[pulsar condor]

ahh okok

[thorn marsh]

yeah, gotta pump ma mana up

[pulsar condor]

What is the most effective attack talent for those wormhole kills?

[manic moat]

So I just increased my px length by 300 px and it feels like nothing really happened. Trying to get my player to get Amethyst rhynstone and Sapphire Navette

[pulsar condor]

make sure bubo is in the right place?

[manic moat]

yeah

[signal osprey]

Not possible to reach both of those with one character

[manic moat]

he was so close before I upgraded, why is it impossible?

[signal osprey]

Because line width only affects connections between players

[pearl cedar]

Cause pixel length isnt connection range

[manic moat]

how do I only use 6 players to get all connected?

[tacit tulip]

you don't - you make two sacrifices

[signal osprey]

You don't. 6 man lab has 2 jewels that don't get connected

Amethyst rhinestone gives cooking speed which only matters for ladles so turn it on when you use ladles and swap to the sapphire for everything else

[manic moat]

oof, what a nightmare

[pearl cedar]

Then the orange dmg jewel is worthless basically

[signal osprey]

The other jewel that gets skipped is the orange damage one but its additive with a dozen other things so you're missing like 1% damage

[tacit tulip]

the layout you're aiming for is in the pins in w3/4 chat

[thorn marsh]

no chance of getting pyrite pyramite?

y u do this lava

[signal osprey]

If thats the orange damage jewel then it doesn't do anything anyway so not a big deal

Easily the worst jewel in the entire lab

[thorn marsh]

fair

[bitter jetty]

Who’s the best single target dps for kattlekruk. I’ve been trying hard to get the 30 second kill quest done and my ES is at a billion damage but I keep falling short

Was thinking of moving my gear onto another guy and trying them if my one has any suggestions

[manic moat]

I did mine with my ES

took a little while for me too. had to get just enough dmg

[thorn marsh]

I'm just struggling with getting my BB to kill him on nightmare

[sharp zenith]

What happens if you use a Subclass or Elite Class change on a Voidwalker?

[thorn marsh]

you break the game

[edgy pendant]

Is this skill counted twice if I use it on both my DK?

[sharp zenith]

im also wondering

[edgy pendant]

Or it just uses the highest?

[dapper prism]

No

It does not stack

All the "all characters" kinda buffs are always only highest

[edgy pendant]

Ok, but it works as intended?

Like it works no matter who i claim on?

[dapper prism]

Yes, you bit multi should remain the same if you compare it

[edgy pendant]

Cool, thanks 😄

[dapper prism]

It's benficial if your 2nd DK, SB, ES, have those account wide buffs maxed on both talent trees, so you never need to worry about it 😄 (if they are kinda perma stuck in lab)

[edgy pendant]

Yeah I've only realised this a few days ago

They are now permanent support chars haha

[sharp zenith]

My issue right now is killing Kattlekruk with the voidman, im very high level and my damage is quite high but I'm not even close to be able to kill it. The only way I see it possible to be done is by using a Sub class/Elite class swap token to change it to a Mage for example. But I'm not sure it is possible.

[dapper prism]

27b should be doable, check my pin and vid on it for tip/strat

[sharp zenith]

I mean the Nightmare version for the 10/10 character

[dapper prism]

Yes.

[pearl cedar]

Just quick slap for a few days tbh

[dapper prism]

20-40b is all doable

[edgy pendant]

Make sure you have relevant talents max lvl, not just the ones boosting dmg directly

[pearl cedar]

Get you to 100b and make it an easy auto

[dapper prism]

^ especially the multi fist hit talent that one never needs in other situations, is now very very helpful

[thorn marsh]

I feel like I'm stuck around 800mil dmg and only climbing 1-2mil at the time

[sharp zenith]

Should I use speed pots ?

[dapper prism]

Got crystal steak?

[dapper prism]

Just check whatever gives you most dmg, movepseed for actual move speed caps at 350 anyways

Which at your dmg mark should already easily be reached

[thorn marsh]

ah - that boosts it quite alot

afraid not yet

[dapper prism]

Not even base version?
How about fury?

[thorn marsh]

fury basic, yup

but no - I've been sailing all wrong, so trying to lvl up boats to get to the end islands

[dapper prism]

Remove all captainbs, toss speed captains on fastest boats. make sure you have at least 2-6ish that can reach the higher end, specifically for now Fury, crystal steak and then the mk/tier within 2h.

If you only check it once a day, keep SB talent 11. If you check sailing a few times a day, remove Sb talent 11.

Make sure you spread out your gold hampters etc. too

[tropic kiln]

so I recently got eldritch fury what are the top priority talents to 245 ?

[thorn marsh]

gotcha. I just feel like the whole sailing UI is.... confusing :p

[sharp zenith]

Sorry im not too familliar with discord, is there a way I can see your pined post ?

[thorn marsh]

got 600+ hampsters on each char, as many elephants as possible

[dapper prism]

It's not just confusing but also terrible.

[dapper prism]

On phone, either swipe left or right, forgot and you should see a pin looking icon

https://i.imgur.com/wbmgU0z.png

3rd icon

Else here is the direct link to the kattle post:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

But pins should always be checked among the main few chats, always has helpful info there

[dapper prism]

Yeh thats great, also make sure you lvl the alch bubble a little. PO box is another one that gives sailing time.
And most importantly is the thing i noted about SB talent 11

[thorn marsh]

got it at 68 atm ~ 67%

gotta remove talent 11, think I have it on

what is defined as "almost full"?

[tropic kiln]

1 left

this talent is bad tho

[thorn marsh]

is it really not worth missing the 1 chest in case I don't make it?

[sharp zenith]

ok thanks, I saw your vid on youtube but I wasnt sure what 80B damage looks like in the stat menu. thanks

[signal osprey]

You're not missing 1 you're missing 21 because your boats no longer wait at the dock with extra chests

[thorn marsh]

oooooooooooh

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[sharp zenith]

I can probably reroll my stats and get more damage but since I was soooo far away from killing it I thought it wasnt even worth it.

[fathom lagoon]

Sheesh just unlocked the crystal steak, dmg went upppppp

[dapper prism]

Keep in mind i did NOT have my fist talents maxed. which would help a bunch. The core thing is your focus isnt the boss, your focus is minions, like the vid

[sharp zenith]

Yes, I hope my mob respawn timer boosts are not making this even harder because I have a lot of points in that.

In arcade and Merit shop which I can't take off the points example

they spawn from each side insanely fast loll

[dapper prism]

Pretty sure that does not affect any of the boss mechanics as it all seems to be based on timers and RNG.

Even the minions "touching" kattle isnt even collision based, but time based. Testible with BM rooting ability, even if you root them, knock them back etc. it will still heal kattle.

[sharp zenith]

ohh my lol

[small lantern]

Are Balloon Dog keychains (attack speed) worth keeping?

[sharp zenith]

Ultimately I will try the Class swap token on the Vman and see what it does lol

[sharp zenith]

I dont

[dapper prism]

Down to you but that seems really not worth it, especially since your dmg is already pretty high/decent

[sharp zenith]

I tried to focus on the mole but I was still a long way to kill the boss lol

[thorn marsh]

this doesn't stack either, no?

[dapper prism]

None of it stacks with the same talent, can't even think of a single thing that would stack tbh

[thorn marsh]

alright, cheers

[magic ingot]

Persephones Bouquet is the best in slot necklace for skilling right?

[sharp zenith]

If you have time to look at my Idleonefficieny profile and see if there is anything I missed except the stats reroll of my V-Man (Unclassified X). https://skarghan.idleonefficiency.com otherwise I understand if you can't.

[upper hornet]

what sort of dmg is recommended for nightmare kattle?

[dapper prism]

A lot

[dapper prism]

30-40b makes it decent. Some info in pins. I had 80b but also forgot/didnt max my fist talents

[upper hornet]

Just cleared chaotic on 7, currently here on my BB:

do-able or am I miles off?

[rough wasp]

Gonna take forever

[dapper prism]

Teh recommended dmg is for vman, because hes the worst to do it with. and if you can do it on him, not much purpose to do it on others yet

[sharp zenith]

it's my 8/9 I have no issues with anyother class

[dapper prism]

Please stop stacking your books and not claiming them when so many of your talents arnt booked
And so many of your talents arnt max talented either with wasted points on other things. 100% respec a lot

Also, your talents are weird, in some ways it looks like dmg in other ways it looks like its skilling setup

[sharp zenith]

Yeah I use the 20 book max book talent thing when I have time eheh

[sharp zenith]

Might be because of when I swap from PC to Android my talents breaks sometimes

[dapper prism]

Talents are device specific

Except for the first switch between device, it copies the current stuff over kinda thing, something like that

[tacit tulip]

until you can get the divine scarf yes

[sharp zenith]

yes sometimes it just reset my 2nd presets but yeah ok thanks ill work on my reroll stats

[lyric sequoia]

Pff, you aint a library if you don't have at least 60 checkouts

[dapper prism]

60, why not go for more?
https://i.imgur.com/mZfIEeq.png

[mellow kraken]

why would you do this to yourself

[magic ingot]

let him cook

[dapper prism]

lol

[magic ingot]

w6 we get a mechanic that requires 200 checkouts

100%

[signal osprey]

I'm down

[dapper prism]

How else are you going to get that lvl 400 tente?!

[signal osprey]

I just book random stuff now anyway. Dont really have anything better to do than save hundreds of books

[lyric sequoia]

See now that's a library

[signal osprey]

I guess I could actually try to use my books on time and max every talent on every character so lava will buff max talent levels

[small lantern]

Is there any way to check your printer sample rate without royal sampler, besides unequipping it?

[magic ingot]

algebra

[sharp zenith]

wait thats what IdleonEfficiency is showing on my profile lollll ?

[dapper prism]

No, not yours xD

That was just as a continued joke, yours is 36

[sharp zenith]

okkkk ahahah I'm negligent but not that much loll

[pine yacht]

Are these 2 rings good for sampling ?

[ocean lily]

Aside from ruby cards, any other big ways I can improve my crystal chance on my DK? https://fursto.idleonefficiency.com/

[paper sail]

Welp

[pearl cedar]

Yes

[neon stone]

Hi can I level up fast as a squire? ( up to world 2 area 3)

[paper sail]

Probably better off asking in #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳

[neon stone]

Have tried

But thanks

[small lantern]

highest map you can survive... crystals... equip exp pots

[pearl cedar]

Levels arent super important in w2-3 if that helps

Just keep pushing maps

[long thunder]

i just got a 29.4

whats an ideal number to go for?

[paper sail]

"Ideal" is over 100k but basically nobody gets that

[grizzled elk]

I wonder what the nug thing is going to be in the future content channel

[pearl cedar]

Ready for next rift

[tacit tulip]

I should probably do that sometime

[signal osprey]

What's your damage and qs up to now?

[pearl cedar]

Uh that wasnt pure dmg, but on es that was 150t, like 5700 qs

[signal osprey]

5700

[pearl cedar]

Will prob stop at 10k that should put me close to 100t on vman

Just need my 11th to start in purple dmg

[signal osprey]

Anxious to see if this update makes me a qs leveler if lava nerfs TD

[pearl cedar]

Oh guess no real need for high tower levels with td dmg boost if it goes hard anyways

Since really all that we lack is dmg, with enough krakens can basically infinitely hold everything

[signal osprey]

Yeah I'm expecting it to be additive with the atom because fuck us I guess lol

So tower levels beyond cost reduction cap would be basically useless

[edgy tusk]

Started with 5 chemical plants and got down to 1. Now im here. Been doing gaming for hours with no end in sight lol

[dapper prism]

Pretty normal, at least you've got an OP nugget 😮

[edgy tusk]

Just got it today XD was stuck at 106k for months

[autumn wasp]

does vman damage mainly come from this?

[dapper prism]

106k.. acting like that's small xD

[dapper prism]

Not necessarily

[edgy tusk]

Well it wasn't as big as I wanted it to be lol

[thorn marsh]

been stuck on my 14k for half a year already

[noble mesa]

Same

[edgy osprey]

Where is that strat for speed runs again?

[dapper prism]

#1084911530417606656

[tropic kiln]

where does vman damage come from

like all skillage ?

[dapper prism]

Everything coming hand in hand like usual. But definetely get it's skills up for the min skill vll to dmg talent

[ocean lily]

this length of time between updates honestly makes me more excited at this point

[vocal ibex]

hey for bill brr i have to run over a coin where is the coin

[clear quartz]

yay 90% startue, now onward to cranium cook, maybe

[vocal ibex]

world 3 chat dont answer

[clear quartz]

should be on the ground in the bottom platform in his area, if you left the room you may need to cancel and reaccept the quest

[vocal ibex]

it appeared it didnt pick it up when i ran past it

think i needed autoloot on

im try again

[clear quartz]

its a chase sequence kinda, eventually itll pick up for real

[shadow rampart]

Just stand still close to it, it Will Come to you

[autumn wasp]

how much does luk and power of tri3 matter?

[vocal ibex]

ahh okay ive never done something like this lmao this game unique

[zealous niche]

There are many aspects of lava trolling us

[dapper prism]

No clue what counts how much, but either way, everything usually comes together, just don't ignore anything and it'll work itself out. Main thing to not forget is to always be skilling on vman

[vale wadi]

pff stuck in the rift at skull flag. I cant seem to let 1 of the giants mobs die..... I cant even see their HP

[zealous niche]

Not sure what stage you’re meaning here

[vale wadi]

the pirate maffiosios I cant even see hp bar

[signal osprey]

Its just a dps check. Only put 1 point into the flag talent as it increases the plunder mobs hp

[zealous niche]

Sounds like your flag talent is too high

Only need one level in it to do it

[signal osprey]

If you still can't one shot them then you just need more damage

[vale wadi]

that never thought off

my lvl is like 150

[zealous niche]

There are quite a few dps checks in rift though, so you may just need to go away and get more damage

[signal osprey]

The whole rift is literally just different flavors of dps check

[zealous niche]

Yeah.. you’ll need to stop rift progress soon

[signal osprey]

If you have good damage the entire thing is a joke

[shy flame]

what makes green stacks so important?

[signal osprey]

They give more damage with a lab node

[zealous niche]

2/3.5% per stack iirc

There’s a gem that boosts it

[zealous niche]

Trying to work out the guaranteed drops here, and I don’t understand this phrase around don’t count the kills from…

Which ones are included in my afk info and which ones aren’t?

[rich robin]

how much healt does cyrstal monsters have on crystal island

i deal zero damage against them

[signal osprey]

All of them are included in the afk info so you have to manually account for them yourself.

[lyric adder]

Which island should I get? I already have trash, shimmer, and seasalt

[teal lynx]

I went Crytsal for more Candy and good XP for my Vman
Rando doesn't provide much unless u spent bottles on it and fractal is not worth it atm, also Crystal gives you candy for Fractal

[sick orchid]

Guys on how many lucky lads you stocking up?

[teal lynx]

All of them. I just throw them at my guys in Lab

[weak terrace]

im looking for advice, im trying to go for the 1m plunderous kills with my SB im sitting at 217k atm. Anyone know the best map to farm it on?

[zealous niche]

Started holding onto them all but I’m not actively trying to get them.

It’d be nice to know how many are needed..

[zealous niche]

Flat maps would work well with the SB skills, tremor worms are good for the exp, money and kruk keys

[weak terrace]

ye I have been there for the last weeks but it seems rly slow compared to the DK and ES variant

[zealous niche]

It is

[weak terrace]

I even tried the lemons

felt like I got more at the lemons tbh compared to tremor

[zealous niche]

DK and ES progress every kill, SB progresses every pluderous kill

[weak terrace]

sure the exp is a bit worse

[muted slate]

think most use citringes

and be happy its even possible to 1m it now

[sick orchid]

I'm happy i got ram, so i can just load everyone with them and still farm resources

[weak terrace]

because of vman? xd

[muted slate]

yeah

[zealous niche]

Also to check, do you have the vman enhancement of the flag going?

[weak terrace]

yes ofc

[sick orchid]

About 170 so far, but i think it should be enough

[weak terrace]

started farming it like 1-2 weeks ago

[zealous niche]

There are some that come with your question that don’t, so always good to check the obvious

[weak terrace]

im active farming 24/7 on the sb

[teal lynx]

1 M Plunder should take a few Months

[weak terrace]

ye seems about right

gonna be 500 before I get the 1m kill lol

[teal lynx]

Aj tell me how you get 1M Plunder in a week

[bold quiver]

final vial done - soon

[teal lynx]

It literally takes months for 1M

[zealous niche]

With Tutt’s progress it’s a month or two

[teal lynx]

2 Months, it is still Months

[zealous niche]

True, but could also end up being one month and a little

The implication of months is 3-many despite two technically coming under it

[weak terrace]

thanks for the help, just wanted to make sure I wasnt missing out on a bis map for plunderous kills xd

[lunar viper]

Does the VMan whale wallop talent enhancement count BM afk kills or only active kills?

[zealous niche]

Only active

[lunar viper]

Thank you

[weak terrace]

talking about vman is it even possible to get enhancement up to 250 for the last bonus?

[deft lotus]

no

[frigid patrol]

How do you get gold nuggets?

[weak terrace]

you press the shovel in gaming and hope for good rng

[velvet dirge]

I just made a purchase for the starter pack, but I don’t see anything different?? It includes extra storage space but my chest size hasn’t increased

[frigid patrol]

Do you have to unlock it?

[bold quiver]

reload game?

[weak terrace]

yes

[dapper prism]

tried closing and opening the game, or ctrl+R ?

[weak terrace]

in imports

cant remeber when u unlock it there but its pretty early I think

[velvet dirge]

Wait does it drop on the ground

[dapper prism]

No

[velvet dirge]

Thank god

[dapper prism]

you unlock it in imports

[velvet dirge]

Wdym

[dapper prism]

It's the 2nd unlock in imports. 3m bits

[gritty sierra]

Is it me or does nightmare kattle not drop his damn card

[weak terrace]

I had problems with normal one

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/4hpESv9.png

[gritty sierra]

I've killed him like 60 times and not one card

[fluid tinsel]

Is 20 to 25k alchemy seconds per cranium cooking decent for someone early W5? I do it at the soda cans map

[dapper prism]

You turned it on in the settings? ||just kidding||

[gritty sierra]

You had issues with normal kattle dropping cards?

[weak terrace]

not dropping his card yes

just bad rng I would guess

[dapper prism]

early w5, it's "okay-ish" also depends if thats without choco chip and crystal card. should easily get it to 40k+ very early on imo

[weak terrace]

ran atleast 20-25 runs only got cards 1 time

[gritty sierra]

I guess

[weak terrace]

on vman

[analog jewel]

does this mean max is tier 4 or 5?

[gritty sierra]

The other two I have at 3 stars

But for nightmare... not one

[fading cape]

4

[dapper prism]

Without Superbit unlocks, max is Tier 4.
Then different superbits increase it to T5, T6 then T7

[hybrid sky]

Just got doot and recently entered world 5. Is it worth sitting characters in the lab or altar? I see if my characters are on altar they’re in lab too but getting no exp as far as I can tell

[dapper prism]

Yes, have to, 2sec
World 5 Doot companion owners:
https://imgur.com/kXkZfj9

Blessing seen on wiki (or here:)
https://i.imgur.com/b1yjmK0.png

So essentially, without the gods unlocked, you wont have the blessings available to level up. Some are very helpful like Sailing Speed (or scaled effy)

[lunar viper]

Doot in 2027 gang rise up

[dapper prism]

Need Companion Rotation 2, gotta get that additive gaming nugget unlock 😄

or CC affects Sigils

[hybrid sky]

Thanks!

[dapper prism]

In other words, with doot you will have permanent lab bonuses, so you can kinda do whatever.

W5 is the ideal time to backtrack and do stuff like this to name a few:
https://imgur.com/c1RhPXA

With doot you could include stuff you'd use your alts with too.
Such as leveling all alts for some extra talent points to make tab 4 talents easier to max (especially for your 2nd DK/SB/ES) for the gaming/sailing/dr/xp/3d print/divinity bonuses. Or do the simple stuff even like getting all alts through w1-3 for 10x/daily keys on each boss.

[fathom lagoon]

That’s without rotations 🫢

[lunar viper]

optimal strategy. find job

[primal bison]

Without doot I feel like nothing😞

[stoic silo]

are there any changes in harvesting I should make after I unlocked whale?

Is there a better spice layout with whale?

this is my layout on all floors

[dapper prism]

Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml

[stoic silo]

ah thanks

I had a link to on in the waybackmachine; but it didn't load half of the time

[prisma drift]

What’s a reasonable wave for Waka war?

130?

[glacial venture]

all of them

[gusty wedge]

Anyone know what the rewards for the nothing afk on fractal are not sure if I want to use my candies if it's not something good

[muted slate]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Island_Expeditions

[dapper prism]

wiki has it

[gusty wedge]

Thank you

[dapper prism]

also, not really worth it, 99% of other content with better priority than that

[gusty wedge]

Ya I got the 250 hours

[glacial venture]

but...he ...got...bored

[gusty wedge]

Think I'll wait and get the rest on accident

[dapper prism]

cant really unless you intentionally stay there, either way, pretty terrible as most stuff is additive

[gusty wedge]

I be forgetting people in town some times lol

[dapper prism]

thought that doesnt count/work anymore?

[gusty wedge]

Not sure I got the afk window once when I did it

It got me 2 hours

[dapper prism]

Not sure 🤷

[green eagle]

i would give anything for that atm. sigils finishing in 2025 atm

and funnily enough i have some of the furthest sigil progress here atm. still will take 2 years to finish them currently

[modern plaza]

does the golden stopwatch basically count as 24hr candy on every character too?? or just refreshes daily’s?

[teal lynx]

"Just" refreshes dailys

[signal osprey]

Refreshing dailies

[modern plaza]

imagine if it gave 240hrs too 😦

[signal osprey]

I mean thatd be nice i guess but if you want candy you can already use candy

[glacial venture]

traps too?

[signal osprey]

Even if it gave afk time 90% of its value would be the dailies. Thats an insanely strong mechanic that isn't available anywhere else in the game

[glacial venture]

i dont even do the normal dailies^^

[signal osprey]

Your bad choices don't make the stop watch not strong lol

[teal lynx]

Pray for my Brother. Hopefully he stops sinning soon

[glacial venture]

unless it works on traps too its useless for me

[signal osprey]

Nblb and atom clicks are useless now

You learn something new every day

[modern plaza]

ofc ofc, was just thinking it would be very easy to afk nothing instantly with those…

gonna save them up for w8 dailies

[glacial venture]

atom yes...i barely got enough for normal daily clicks^^

[signal osprey]

That doesn't make them useless though. Just save them until you fix your prints

[modern plaza]

nice that alchemy is finally hitting its limit with the atom clicks hahha

[signal osprey]

I'm saving mine anyway to use on W6 launch

[signal osprey]

The alch will never end

[modern plaza]

getting everything to the nonlinear 90% and then just casual on all the linear stuff lol

[signal osprey]

90%

I'm no math expert but last I checked 100% - 90% = 10% so there's still more leveling to do

[modern plaza]

actual facts

[glacial venture]

then try that with sampling too^^

[signal osprey]

Try what specifically? Level the sampling bubbles?

[glacial venture]

cause its maxed at 90%

[signal osprey]

Oh you mean sample size

[prisma furnace]

Is there a place I can check when the bubbles Are at 90%?

[signal osprey]

IT has that info and theres also a sheet in tips and tricks

[prisma furnace]

Where in IT, I might not have used that enough

[opaque sun]

sample rates “90%” and bubble’s “90% of effect” are totally different things

[signal osprey]

Should be under account > W2 > bubbles

[sweet mountain]

is this working as intended? The max lvl for my books didnt change in the UI

[signal osprey]

Its the library building

[sweet mountain]

oh nvm it was the construction library building not the books.

[ember abyss]

What’s the best trapping strat? The guides I have found don’t seem to account for or explain why placing as VMan is best.

[small lantern]

left/right hand of skilling probably?

[rapid shale]

vman gives stupid xp, and if you place all chars traps on vman all those players get the same xp it said for vman

[zealous niche]

The nature exp only traps should be placed by vman, everything else by BM

[opaque sun]

and vman has that talent to raise critter # based on his trapping/worship levels

[sour oasis]

Ello lads, could someone peep my IE and give me pointers? https://durburdungin.idleonefficiency.com/ ...Feels like i have some selective blindness on things that i need to improve on. I am waiting another week until i can resample coppor -> more atoms -> atom larry to 510 and thats about my only plan for the moment. Otherwise feels like my progress has some what plateaued

[pine yacht]

A nice little increase

[clear quartz]

i should redo more of my samples, my catching and fish ones kinda suck

[dapper prism]

Waiting for the update before i resample

[clear quartz]

sooooon

[small lantern]

Wait for update to resample -> wait until I get enough progress through update to resample -> wait for update to resample

[dapper prism]

Wait for W6 xD

[fast grail]

Any new skilling materials will be worth doing the re-sample for

Even more so since they will have vials

[opaque sun]

sampling few days before an update is a really feels bad man

we have no idea if equinox resources are sample able tho

since it seems tied to some new content, i wont be surprised if its locked out of sampling

[desert wyvern]

How much damage does a VMan need to kill Chaotic Kruk. Looking to complete Cracking the Kruk 7

[opaque sun]

chaotic dunno. Maybe like 100m or 1b? People really dont have issue with chaotic kruk

[desert wyvern]

i got 250 M max damage but idk how to kill all the moles with Vman. Kruk heals too fast.

[opaque sun]

Manual keyboard combat, or just get more damage

[sour oasis]

Anyone?

[worthy gyro]

Alch, improve it until you get bored enough to uninstall the game

[sour oasis]

Ok its gamer time

[pearl cedar]

Your sample bubbles are really lacking, though you're missing a lot of boron so it is expected

[fast grail]

Are the afk gain% bubbles worth getting to 95%?

[sour oasis]

Yea i feel like i have a chicken and the egg problem here. Need bigger samples for more atoms, more atoms will create bigger samples by leveling bubbles

[fast grail]

just focus on bubbles 2/3 for now, just doing those a good bit will massively increase samples

try push choping multi-bubble manually so it can be 300% easily, just use 90% discounts on mages to level it

[pearl cedar]

You have decent samples though

[lone galleon]

well that only took like half a day

[sour oasis]

I think my log samples are good for the moment, I want to do the whole goat god/snake god swap thing for mining samples in a week and a half when i can do back to back unlinking

[small lantern]

almost done statues

[vocal flower]

Is carrots the best spot to afk for power statues?

[small lantern]

After that though I dunno what to do. Maybe get some skilling up, or level vman to 450 for divine trophy https://bladekill990.idleonefficiency.com/

[small lantern]

I heard beans for the w1 crystals

[vocal flower]

For active yes, im talking afk

Carrots have the highest rare item drop chance woth power statue in the pool for w1 from what I can tell

Because I'm on phone, I don't really want to leave the game running 24/7 to get the statues, and getting 130-150/day afk on my other chars that aren't active

[small lantern]

Yea I dunno, afk rates for any statue is pretty bad tbh

[opaque sun]

why would you want to afk them

[sour oasis]

AFK power statues would take longer than doing it actively with DK even if you didnt have choco chip

[willow sorrel]

Wb nightmare, how much dmg do I need to finally get my divine scarf

[sick sentinel]

Doable in around an hour 10ish billion. More comfortable around 30-50B for 15 min or less

[sour oasis]

An hour of manually fighting moles and kruk 💀

[sick sentinel]

Yeah long manual grind

[willow sorrel]

Wait

That’s not that much dmg at all

Oh sick

I thought I needed in the hundred billion

[dire tinsel]

doing NM kruk on your maestro tho.

doubt he's on the same level as ur others

[willow sorrel]

Ya he ain’t but he’s getting to places

[dire tinsel]

yep, scarf is all 10 players killing in order btw

[opaque sun]

200b for a auto and forget nightmare battle

[dense nexus]

Anyone up to review a profile?

[vagrant mountain]

#1087257720043876372 message

[fast grail]

I miss Macs old bot

[vagrant mountain]

also my copypasta advice:

1. Work on alchemy to unlock all bubbles and get better prints
2. Unlock all stamps / upgrading them to 5k total stamp level
3. Unlock every meal in cooking / bb 1m kills for chows
4. Purple skulls w1 - w3
5. Lab (to lvl75)/Divinity
6. Unlock as many Rift levels as you can

if you feel like you still need help, feel free to post IE and I can take a look

[dense nexus]

I'm pretty sure I did most of that

https://zee_rock.idleonefficiency.com/

[vagrant mountain]

these are all around good stamps to unlock/work on

[fast grail]

Multi tool is enormous

[vagrant mountain]

work on your printer, 200m sample is a pretty solid goal

[dense nexus]

Which ones to work on most? I really don't know what I should be using my 95% reductions on

[vagrant mountain]

use your reductions on the most expensive stamps, usually crystalline/multitool/mason jar

these are important to get to 300%

[fast grail]

At the point you are at, the 95% reductions are not really insanely needed. Tons of stamps that can be leveled without that discount

[vagrant mountain]

yeah

take the time to farm some money and sit down, turn on rucksack prayer, and level up every stamp as far as you can without reductions

[fast grail]

Work towards getting w5 bags, 5/8 are basically free bags

[vagrant mountain]

you should try to stay on top of your worship, use your souls to level up your prayers, and upgrading skulls to improve cap

[chrome tiger]

almost can ignore that stupid prayer

[fast grail]

that on a warrior?

[chrome tiger]

ES, no

[fast grail]

Ah, thats pretty enormous if you are not using prayer

[chrome tiger]

garbage stamp almost capped me out, can get there with a few more vials and stamp discounts

[dense nexus]

So mostly stamps and worship should be my current goals rn?

[vagrant mountain]

worship is a relatively quick fix, i wouldnt fixate on it

[dense nexus]

Plus resampling... Which I was mostly hoping to get to the last rift before trying to resample

[vagrant mountain]

stamps are a big one but your alchemy could use more love right now

improving your samples should be your #1 goal

stamps and alchemy will both help you with thtat

bigger samples = bigger bubbles = bigger everything

[fast grail]

Might have been riding nblb a bit too hard, make sure to manually level bubbles that are super easy, espcially the ones that use skilling mats that can be easily sampled.

[dense nexus]

Yeah, I was under the wrong impression that I could just rely on NBLB for alchemy for a while. Guess I'll have to resample soon

[vagrant mountain]

you should rely on NBLB to level up certain bubbles but not every bubble

[dense nexus]

Is there some ballpark of damage needed to get to the last rift?

[fast grail]

Any bubble that uses really hard to get mats, such as salts, critters, and souuls, are prime for nblb

[opaque sun]

Few hundred Bs id say

[vagrant mountain]

rift 46 is around 100b-200b

[fast grail]

ES needs 100b-200b max damage (varies based upon attack talent levels)

~500b to get to rift 50

but no reward for that yet, just pre-emptive do it

[dense nexus]

Looks like I'm very far from that then. I'll feel less bad about resampling

[burnt halo]

any1 know what happens if I login from my Phone while The game is open on pc?

[fast grail]

Dont worry about about back from sampling for relic boost until you start having 200m+ samples

[vagrant mountain]

you get logged off on PC

[burnt halo]

but it saves?

[vagrant mountain]

probably the most recent cloudsave

[burnt halo]

I tought I was leaving for a few hours but here I am 3 days away lol

my inventory been full for like half a day

[opaque sun]

If you run both, you play rng game of “guess which gets cloudsaved” game

[merry pulsar]

to make the final vman guantlets is that 20m or 2m mongo worm slices

[vagrant mountain]

well probably no point in keeping him going on 5fps

[burnt halo]

exactly

im just afraid of logging in

and losign like 3 days of progress

[vagrant mountain]

just log in and free him from his prison

[burnt halo]

no chance to get a insane rollback?

[opaque sun]

Like resync by visiting character screen

[vagrant mountain]

you wont lose 3 days probably just a few minutes at most

[burnt halo]

this game saves very weirdly lol

aight

[fast grail]

Unless your active char lost internet for 3 days and it hasnt had any chance of cloudsaving, should be safe

[burnt halo]

pray for me lol

[worthy gyro]

Are they? Isn't 300 the overall cap?

[opaque sun]

That is why its important to get to 300

[worthy gyro]

But you get 300 through other means, not only the bubble

[chrome tiger]

vman gauntlets are like a myth.. gonna have to farm those mobs for long three months

[opaque sun]

might as well get 300 from big bubble so you dont have to worry adding all those little sources

[worthy gyro]

Ig, same with prowess i assume

[opaque sun]

And its easier to say on discord to say “300%” than some detailed numbers of 27X something something

Any excess isnt a loss anyway since excess levels means more nblb on other bubbles later on

[dense nexus]

If I'm resampling on everybody, should I just put everyone on goat? plus ES on goat+snek?

[opaque sun]

If no doot, theoretically yes

[sour oasis]

This is a good copy paste response 👌

[dense nexus]

Thanks to everyone who gave me advice just now

[vagrant mountain]

[clear quartz]

noice

[patent hatch]

You reckon the new update will be for the final gaming tab ?

All the little buffs etc seem like it could fit there

[signal osprey]

I would say not likely as he said the new mechanic is something along the lines of a hard to do list

[formal minnow]

17.1821305842 hours roughly till I get rift level 41

Er

40

[shy flame]

Is there a key to getting my catching samples as big as my mining/logging samples?

[opaque sun]

the tier of the skill is different so never happens

[upbeat falcon]

Should I keep pushing mining and chopping multidrop with the 95% stamp discount?

[vagrant mountain]

it'll never be as high because they have skills that improve their AFK

[vagrant mountain]

it caps at 300% so no

[shy flame]

alright, I kind of figured but wasn't sure if I just missed something

[upbeat falcon]

Oh is multidrop generally capped for most late-game players?

[opaque sun]

only way is to intentionally gimp your chopping and mining to catching/fishing levels

[vagrant mountain]

it should be capped from your alchemy bubble

[upbeat falcon]

I checked one of my miners and he is capped at 300%

[vagrant mountain]

yeah pretty easy to cap

[shy flame]

you could pretty easily cap multi ore through alchemy alone, although it wouldn't be the most resource efficient way to do things

[opaque sun]

its still okay to over level it with materials to get it off nblb threshold

[shy flame]

I think by the time nblb catches up to level 185 mini bubble you have a ton of other bonuses going into nblb that it isn't like a high priority

[opaque sun]

still, easy printable flies for future nblb means like free bubble levels in other useful ones

[shy flame]

but i'm mainly basing that cause I had to stop upgarding those bubbles because it was a waste of water for where I'm at, and then seeing like the 10 bubbles or whatever each day

[opaque sun]

So yes you can keep the bubble at like 270% effect or so, but even for min max purpose dont be afraid to go 300%+ considering nblb

Molto loggo using iron bars not worth the cost tho

[void pulsar]

anyone bored and wanna help figure out what I should work on next? https://cojoe.idleonefficiency.com/

[vagrant mountain]

improve your prints

[opaque sun]

larry can use some more love

[shy flame]

at the risk of being roasted can I ask the same question

https://usernamebrand.idleonefficiency.com/

[opaque sun]

larry can use some more love

[shy flame]

He will always need more love

[fast grail]

Trapping eff isnt too big after a certain point right?

[vocal ibex]

Just doubled my samples 😄 no idea how I'm proceed

[dusty garden]

How can i double my samples?

[amber goblet]

okay lads i just hit W5 and let my gamers sit on div till i could get Arctis

now that i have him unlocked i linked all to him

how many peeps should i leave on div

[vocal ibex]

@dusty garden lots of things but at time point i can only wait for the artifact from w5 to kick in adding extra growth % every day.

Alchemy too but it taking a while to upgrade stuff since my atoms are not a lot

[shy flame]

This is almost definitely the wrong answer but I think there's a lot of value in leveling everyone up to 40 on div so then you can just use tranqi to always gain div exp without having to be there

It's also the wrong comment to reply to lol

[vocal ibex]

Where do I get the code I checked Google already they said something about a desert

[frigid acorn]

Idle skilling

[dapper prism]

It literally tells you in that text, twice 👀

[shy flame]

is there a reason to go to a mob other than the first in a world for splicing or to ever use more than a 1hr time candy when trying to rush splicing

[solemn spire]

what's worth using the hydrogen stamp discount on?

[pseudo blaze]

Hi how does splicing work? i was told its based on base kills. From my understanding its kills x multi kill rate not including killperkill?

[crisp jackal]

guys

[vocal ibex]

Lmao

Thanks you always come in clutch

[solemn spire]

i splice most of my chow/zow kills

[clear quartz]

i think technically a few other maps are better for splices, but yeah, i didnt focus on it too much, and would either just splice whenever doing chow/superchow unless i really needed the mob drops

[solemn spire]

also, i splice when doing starfire/dreadlo bars

[vagrant mountain]

i unlocked all the pets in breeding with very little splicing

not too important

[shy flame]

I'm several pets away from unlocking a converter and still need to unlock quite a few pets whose shiny gives infinite star sign and shiny level up rate

I don't wanna sound like I'm shopping for pants at old navy but I need them genes

[proven basin]

what does splicing do anyways?

[mighty basin]

Genes for breeding pets

[proven basin]

and what do genes do?

[bright idol]

when should all characters be in divinity until

[mighty basin]

Give better pet power

[sleek coyote]

Gives better chance for new pets

[dapper prism]

All except 1 if you can active on it or do stuff. Pretty much Goat.
Check pins, and on the active backtrack stuff like #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[austere path]

Sir,what should i do frist after i reach w5?

[pale slate]

I am doing crafting for slab and i stopped at honker hat. Wiki says it should be tab 3 recipe from start but i do not see it there. Can anyone point me to the right direction please ?

[bright idol]

its from achievement i think

[pale slate]

lovely found it, thank you!

[clear quartz]

i guess i overspent on tools recently, ran out of green salt and refinery wont rank up for 5 more days, rip

or maybe towers, but those arent levelling that fast

[potent lily]

Do i buy zen cogs?

[potent maple]

You might be missing that this is about the w4 breeding? Clearly you've done that seeing as how you're in w5, that's probably the disconnect

[worthy shoal]

Not sure, if you rush w5, you can reach the point when you need gene splicing after you have reached w5

[clear quartz]

speaking of green salts, why does yellow bag take nullo salt but the last bag take 5k greens for trapping? booooo

[austere path]

What should i do now after i reach w5?

[viral snow]

Divinity and catching up on previous worlds

[true obsidian]

pain...

[proven basin]

just making sure lol

[frigid acorn]

gonna take while 😎

[pastel bramble]

so im heading for a tier 7 tree

anyone know what the multi is for tier 7 and 100x proc?

[true obsidian]

what is tier 7 tree and 100x proc?

[pastel bramble]

tier 7 evergreen with 100x roll

it gives a multi off base bit value, so im curious if someone knows what that multi is

[frigid acorn]

heard some people finished t6 plants but never a t7

[pastel bramble]

its just a matter of time

[frigid acorn]

it is just not able to unlock it even with a t25snail atm

[pastel bramble]

ive been on ele god gaming since release lol

aint no one got as big as nuts as me 😄(probably) 😄

[true obsidian]

jesus, how fast your plant grow?

[rough crescent]

Anyone else capped on no bubble left behind?

[true obsidian]

this

[true obsidian]

holy moly

[pastel bramble]

had stone active, this is without

[frigid acorn]

guess have to wait on that shinies plant

[pastel bramble]

wiki doesnt say how each evo effects the base value of tree

so i cant work out how much a 100x tier 7 tree would be 😭

[rough crescent]

Yo how do you guys get better plants I get like 0.001% chance every claim after like 3 or 4 days waiting (exaggerating but after a week I'm at 3%)

[pastel bramble]

u mean this?

[rough crescent]

Top one

The thing above that for getting new plants

[pastel bramble]

yeah thats this 😄

just press the research button every harvest for best odds

[rough crescent]

The upgrade above that the one that gives you the base plants

[pastel bramble]

these?

[rough crescent]

I'm this tab the top upgrade

[next locust]

Don't wait for such a ridiculous high percentages. Just spam at 0.1% or whatever cause it's cheaper that way

[rough crescent]

Good to know so basically it's always horrible odds

[pastel bramble]

thats what im talking about lol

press research every 20 plants

even if it shows 0.1% its better than the waiting

[rough crescent]

Oh I'm dumb I didn't realize it changed when you get them all

It changes that interface slightly when you get them all I guess

I'm gonna go use some gamer flour and try to get new plants

[pastel bramble]

cant remember i had all plants so long now 😄

[pastel bramble]

best way to do it is buy post office box for gaming then claim on every char 2 mins afk

repeatedly

and just keep claiming plants/researching

[rough crescent]

I may or may not have every post office maxed except the 100k one

[pastel bramble]

then just afk claim 2min on each char repeatedly until u get it 😄

[snow dove]

how do you get the effect from artifacts ?

[pastel bramble]

cloudsave and reopen

it updates when u leave room/cloudsave

[snow dove]

k tyvm

[zealous ice]

any tip for speed using Candy on the time candy island . i've got.... a lot i want to use but this one at a time is killing me

[heady torrent]

Most my characters are lvl 15 in div, should i sit on mantra or farm points with focus? (trying to get hare and then goat)

[pastel bramble]

put candy in bottom slot of inventory, press i after claim screen appears, use next candy repeat

[teal lynx]

1. It is really not worth spending Candys on Fractal Islands currently
2. If you really wanna do it, you can use Enter to confirm afk gain screen and I to open inv as Michael just said

[zealous ice]

so no , there is not a speed way to consume.

[zealous niche]

Especially on mobile

[primal otter]

Is there some way to get the drop for suggma again? I think i might have unlocked it without having the tab. It shows in the card info i got it, but dont have it in my anvil... any help would be nice 🙂

The gloves i mean

[zealous niche]

Points are your priority early, once you unlock all deities, then you focus exp to level 40 if you haven’t gotten there already to unlock the constant exp style

[zealous niche]

As in the recipe is lit up in the suggma card?

[primal otter]

Yes

[zealous niche]

Recipes are removed from cards when claimed

So you got another recipe elsewhere of the same tier, and it lit up all the card set icons for that recipe tier

However when you claim them they vanish from their respective cards

[primal otter]

Aaaah so i didn't yet get it

[zealous niche]

So if it’s there, you never got it, or got it and never claimed it

[primal otter]

Thanks ❤️

[zealous niche]

Either way, drop mechanism is the same

[primal otter]

Then i never got it yet

[zealous niche]

Just smash those suggma until they drop it

[primal otter]

Will do ❤️ thanks

[opaque sun]

recipe keeps dropping until you use it

[tacit tulip]

People get worked up by the silhouette being visible

As that usually means you've got the item 😄

[zealous niche]

Gotta love exceptions that aren’t explained

[nimble palm]

What’s a good damage to try beat kruk on vman? And how long would it take to do it?

[teal lynx]

I did it with 30 B Damage and maxed Fist Talents. Took ~20 minutes
There is also a Video guide in Pins from Trickz

[pastel bramble]

5th day at 101% still no 3 mail drop

this was a waste of my bits 😒

[pastel bramble]

you normally know the answer to things, do u know what the multi from a tier 7 tree 100x proc is ?

[opaque sun]

its just 3x per evolution (tier) as the bonsai plant suggests, so its just 3x more of tier 6 tree

[pastel bramble]

the bonsai says 3x more xp

not bits

7x bits 3x xp but doesnt mention per evo

tree is so hard to work out too cause its so random 😓

[opaque sun]

Im sure bonsai says bits

And unless exp modifying plant, bit = exp iirc

[pastel bramble]

oh i was reading bush

4x

and then 3x for other

so i gotta work out what a bse tree gives then 😄

same as a leaf

[opaque sun]

Up to 100x of tier 7 leaf

[pastel bramble]

i can wait for basic leaf to spawn, see bits, multiply by 100 then multiply by 3x for each tier to work out what each tier gives me

[opaque sun]

Getting a higher tier is much much more effort than 3x time spent so its not worth the harvest

[pastel bramble]

trust me i know im not exactly new to gaming 😄

i just wanna see if i can pop a 1billion red bit tree 😄

[opaque sun]

Just 3x few times of the tier 5 plant you have

Its… not that hard of a math

[pastel bramble]

this is more for the screenshot than the gains

i already gain lke 500m red bits daily

[opaque sun]

Good luck rolling a high tree that usually doesnt even get near 100x

[pastel bramble]

its just a matter of time 😄

not much else i can do with gaming atm

my highest tree so far was tier 4 3.6m 😄

[opaque sun]

Bonsai 7 tiers is comparable to tree 7 tiers and rolling a 100x

[pastel bramble]

5319 per basic leaf time to math 😄

387m is my highest tree 😭

bonsai isnt close to tree

its more likely giving im using a 100x proc on tree though 😄

infact a 6x proc is equal to same bits u get from bonsai

[kind epoch]

At what point with gaming do I just cave and save for snail

[pastel bramble]

how many bits do u generate currently

[opaque sun]

maybe around snail level 15+ start consider saving it

Or you mean save the bits to buy snail?

[kind epoch]

Prob 3-5B green per harvest

Save to buy lol

[pastel bramble]

its 15.2t for snail green bits

per harvest is how long? 20min? 60min?

[kind epoch]

60 when I can

[opaque sun]

just keep upgrading stuff until you naturally can buy imports in a day or two is my way

[pastel bramble]

not worth ti then it would take u too long

[kind epoch]

Aight

[pastel bramble]

if u can save for it in like 12hrs then its worth it

level ur base bits and shell upgrades first they will help u most

[opaque sun]

And hope for a nugget

[pastel bramble]

nugget prob gonna be alot easier soon with his shovel teaser im guessing

im assuming its a upgrade to make nuggets take less time to generate by his little icon

seems it has a few upgrades too judging by the green bar

[edgy pendant]

I got snail 3 days ago and had to save just over 2 days. At first it didn’t feel worth but now with lvl 2 it’s already a noticeable difference. If you need to save more than 4 days don’t do it. Any less than that I’d say do it just so you can start generating mail 🙂

[bleak gust]

whens a good time to zow

and chow

[gentle furnace]

When you can finish each within 10hrs

[bleak gust]

so like 100k kph?

[opaque sun]

If you have candies to do it, its good time to do it. If not, dont

shoudnt really have to irl afk time to zow chow as that time is better spent ladles imo

[bleak gust]

how many candies

[opaque sun]

like just multiply your kill per hour?

[edgy pendant]

He meana to be efficient ^^

[opaque sun]

mutiply your kill per hour with the candies you have. If that doesnt cover it, dont do it

[bleak gust]

well i dont know if like 200 1hr is enough

thats what i mean sorry

[opaque sun]

like you can go to a place and see the kill per hour

[bleak gust]

true

how many should i spend

like half of total candies?

[teal lynx]

A Candy not used is a wasted Candy

[opaque sun]

Saved candy doesnt grow so doest matter if you spend all

[steady flume]

Any one know why I might not be able to do sailing trades? I have the tressures but clicking yes is not doing anything

[bleak gust]

true

[bleak gust]

do you have the resource they ask for and the amount

[opaque sun]

200 hrs spent now means you can work on something new 200 hrs earlier

[teal lynx]

200 hours of farming Beans

[bleak gust]

no chocolate chip

[teal lynx]

Only 2 1/2 more months

Make sure you get the resources

[bleak gust]

still in div and i only have up to dango meal

[bleak gust]

how would you get to the meal faster

because right now my cooking is poo poo

[teal lynx]

W4 Colo with DK to get some eggs. Spend those Eggs on Pets and try to get to Pets you need for Breeding. Stuff like Monolith

100 Cheese ain't to bad to get, when you unlocked it

[bleak gust]

only 100 ladles

oh well 100 hours spent means something i can work on 100 hoiurs earlier

[vale wadi]

i m happy got my first eclipse skull;)

[cosmic mauve]

How does the King Doot pet work?
Does it give me every major and minor bonus from every god once unlocked?

[teal lynx]

Yes, if your guys are lvl 2 in Divinity

[cosmic mauve]

holy moly

isn't that super broken

[teal lynx]

The only God u actively need to link to is Purmeep

Hell yeah

[bleak gust]

yes

[teal lynx]

~80% afk rates, 6 times print, double kills, omni procs on everyone etc

[bleak gust]

wait wut

i didnt realize it was that powerful oops

[teal lynx]

The best part would be not needing to change gods for printing. Swapping between all Characters and making sure you are not forgetting something is super annoying

[bleak gust]

when i sampled with div for first time i accidentally only unlinked 1 char because they were all on bear and had to wait another week

[signal osprey]

Only one more hour until I get my free doot

[cosmic mauve]

[safe harness]

i wouldnt even want a doot that bad if i could unlink as many gods as i wanted a week

[tacit tulip]

Doot would be great for me because I'm an unoptimal bastard who just uses bear too much

[signal osprey]

Doot would be great for everyone because hes broken

[tacit tulip]

2 years, 33 weeks until doot

[viral snow]

Atleast you cant get any more sandy pots

[tacit tulip]

true

[sharp igloo]

How does the sampling artifact work lol? I had 1.34x multiplier and I was able to hourly click oak, copper, gold, platinum, alien logs, toilet paper logs, and that other log in the nutto spot every hour, then I reset my vmans samples for vials, and now I get like 1/3rd of them per hour at best lol.

[tacit tulip]

the artifact boosts your prints after the fact, doesn't actually impact your samples

[sharp igloo]

But like 1.34 doesnt seem like enough to more than triple my prints lol

[tacit tulip]

yeah, it shouldn't

you remember to set your rabbit after? 😄

there's what I think, 3 variable printing multipliers?

DK Orb
Printing arti
Lab/rabbit 2/3x

[sharp igloo]

What rabbit lol?

[tacit tulip]

The god that gives you 3x prints?

[sharp igloo]

Oh i have doot so the rabbit is always there

[pine yacht]

the 90% sample is now possible without prayer right ?

[sharp igloo]

On dk yeah

[tacit tulip]

Maybe on DK but doubtful on the rest

[pine yacht]

hmm I am on 80% on Vman without the new stamp tho

and my vials suck ass

[signal osprey]

Its possible on everyone now

[pine yacht]

what mats does the new stamp use ?

[elfin idol]

stamp doubler does or doesnt display on the stamp tooltip?

[tacit tulip]

doesn't

so that's 6.2

[teal lynx]

Can someone explain to me why the non active DK gets so much more Cons XP?

[signal osprey]

Hes actually getting the correct amount and the active DK is getting an exp penalty and I'm pretty sure its just a bug

[teal lynx]

Alright ^^
So a true Lava Coding moment probably

Unfortunately I always had my Active DK get all the XP since I didn't realize it before

[signal osprey]

Yeah I did that at one point too. I thought I should try to keep them equally leveled but the poor guy just couldnt keep up

[grave pilot]

Hey guys, its always better have the divine armor? or in some cases is better the magma ???

[tacit tulip]

it's situational yeah

respawn speed items if you're afk fighting. Drop rate items if you're farming active, pure magma if you're skilling/sampling, pure divine if you're lazy and don't wanna change 😄

[opaque sun]

Divine for tasks that involves the use of the misc stat it has, else use magma

[tacit tulip]

TB wording things better than me as usual

[opaque sun]

but if you dont want to min max, full divine is good enough as sakori said

[grave pilot]

thanks ^^

[tacit tulip]

it was almost entirely out of spite to annoy people who were vocally against divine when it came out

[pearl cedar]

Nice, i personally like divine better

[tacit tulip]

I should probably make another magma set or two for sampling but lazy

[pearl cedar]

I dont think you're going to squeeze out that much more sample from magma, maybe .5-1%

[tacit tulip]

I'll go back to sampling once I'm finally done with deathnote I think

[cerulean hemlock]

Wish I could disable alch on looter, just a thought

[tacit tulip]

easiest way for spice battles would be to manually cast looter until the healers are dead then just not touch it anymore and let the rattler do the work

[dusty garden]

Any idea how to finish last pet battle?

[viral snow]

Git gud

[dusty garden]

?

[opaque sun]

Its the same team as any other fight

Just that it throws 3 axes so bit more rng for the first volley

[gaunt shale]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml

as long as you have the pets with high enough stats its braindead easy with guide

[cerulean hemlock]

All you need is time!

[safe harness]

its all rng, you need to time the block so your first guy doesnt die....then you need some rng while the blocker gets up in running to where he permanently blocks everything...then its just a matter of waiting it out....last pet battle took me a few attempts for first attack to all line up so i could have first guy survive

[opaque sun]

You can do the trasher method which is almost 0 rng, but requires systematic clicking. Was viable strat before auto was a thing

[true obsidian]

uhm...im kinda f*ck up and rank up my nulo salt to rank 7, does anyone know how much rank green and pink salt need to suply rank 7 nulo?

[opaque sun]

There isnt really any fuck up with salts, you just turn it off

[safe harness]

just trun it off though

[opaque sun]

salts not ranked up are basically same as turning off if you look at it the long run

[true obsidian]

thanks you

[opaque sun]

Its not really advised to follow infinite salts tho as that was a thing way before the current refinery situation

[polar light]

Define "current situation"

You mean max red and green?

[opaque sun]

with current refinery speed that easily reaches salts to its cost cap of 1m, and also lack of use of salts, trying to keep infinite refinery ratio is kind of not worth the hassle while slowing your overall progress

[polar light]

Ooh okay yeah that makes sense

[opaque sun]

That infinite guide was made way way back before we didnt imagine red salts ranking up once a day (and eventually few times a day)

[true obsidian]

in current situation, i need a lot nulo for crafting

[polar light]

Y'all are out here ranking up once a day?

[opaque sun]

Red is like ranking up two times a day if omni feels like it, orange ranking up like once every two days or so

[polar light]

Bruh

I think my reds taking at least a week each

[muted slate]

do you have con mastery tho

[polar light]

I'm missing 2-3 tiers so that'd be a good reason why

[muted slate]

yeah for sure

[opaque sun]

The rank up speed isnt like a sudden thing, the first 40 levels are the longest then it starts to snow ball

Lava will need to add refinery in quick ref soon or people will need to head back to w3 town too frequent to rank up salts by like early 2024

[polar light]

Apparently I lied I only have 2 bonuses in const mastery

[green eagle]

i guess i'm still a skeptic and refinery noob. my red is level 50, green is level 30, but the others i kept with infinite production with void salt at lvl 7 lol

[opaque sun]

the early brainwashing conditioned you to be afraid of seeing the red 0 numbers in refinery

red 0 cant hurt you, you are safe

[polar light]

Hyperventilating

[pastel bramble]

woo new highest tree 😄

[lucid hedge]

What's the general strategy with gaming? Let the plants grow, or pluck them quickly?

[opaque sun]

both

[pastel bramble]

quickly except chemicals

[lucid hedge]

I only have 5 evolution types unlocked presently.

[opaque sun]

Pluck out the useless ones, let better ones like chem and berry grow a bit

[hybrid spindle]

how often are anvil products put into storage automatically? Only on the daily reset?

[lucid hedge]

Got it, thanks. I feel like I'm really far behind in gaming, heh.

[pastel bramble]

that method is waste of bits/space when u reach growrth speeds sub 10min

[lucid hedge]

At daily reset.

[pastel bramble]

ur better off harvesting everything except chemicals for better bits

[lucid hedge]

My growth speed is 1.5 hours right now.

[pastel bramble]

yh so let them grow unless ur using chemicals

[cyan spoke]

Is buying cat in gaming worth it?

[pastel bramble]

if u have chemicals/sprinkler to use, harvest everything except chems irst

if u dont have chems/sprinkle to use, u can let them grow until ur growth time is faster

[opaque sun]

cat is a net gain even for bits if you can harvest them

1/3 bits? Just harvest 4 times more

[paper sail]

Do we know, when upgrading the cat rock, if the bonus is additive or multiplicative?

Like is this 4 + 1.61 = 5.61x faster? Or 4 * 1.61 = 6.44x faster?

[cyan spoke]

How often do I check?

[potent gust]

Oh the temptation is real

[quaint grove]

Does anyone have the order for this week's w2 boss?

[sick sentinel]

#1084911530417606656 has an updated post

in the comments

[quiet pewter]

my method is to click whatever unless theres a misc bonus that gives dmg or something

[quiet pewter]

youll want to let them get up to tier 3 or 4 evolution, so dont over harvest. not sure on optimal, but realsistically checking once or twice a day will be fine. actual garden progress comes from lucking a gold nugget or lucking snail rolls later on. theres a lot of insane max-min strats for garden that you probably dont really need to do

[cyan spoke]

I want to do mix-min strats

[quiet pewter]

then do some min-max thinking on it

[cyan spoke]

Idk

[quiet pewter]

i only give minimal effort advice on game play

[cyan spoke]

ok

[opaque sun]

being lazy is the first step away from min-max

[next locust]

Buy all the sprinklers and plant slots
-> use cat/fox
-> infinite chems

(Disclaimer: until it fails, or your mouse breaks)

[cyan spoke]

chem?

[quiet pewter]

an plant that you dont yet have

[paper sail]

mutation^

[cyan spoke]

how much it would take for me from this

[quiet pewter]

a lot

[next locust]

Evolution*
Says so in superbits

[quaint grove]

Also about how much do you need to kill chaotic kruk in 30 seconds because my 2.5 bil max hit on my SB/BM seems to not be nearly enough :T

[paper sail]

Evolution is the tier of the same plant.. Mutation is a different plant.

[opaque sun]

it has 40t hp so enough damage to chip that in 30 sec

[quiet pewter]

why not just say its a type of plant, and avoid all this

[lavish cloak]

i draw the line here. lava can't make me farm more lucky lads until he shows me what they're for

[next locust]

Oh true you're right.
Brainfart

[paper sail]

I am up to 14 since unfiltering. I am not going to let them overflow the cook's inventory.

[quiet pewter]

has lava said what the next update will involve?

(apart from 4 leaf clovers)

[opaque sun]

Future content blog is all we have on it

[quiet pewter]

ah okay, so vague drawings of buttons and snowy trees

[opaque sun]

one can speculate you might want to ready elite swap for possible 2 bb meta

[quiet pewter]

interesting

why would you think that?

[opaque sun]

like everyone got 2 sb to catch bugs, but not everyone got 2 bb to fish and cook at the same time

[paper sail]

They can print and cook

[opaque sun]

If equinox is like a gmush bonus but for mining/chopping/catching/fishing, we will need another bb as a dedicated fisher

there is no guarantee equinox resources are printable

[quiet pewter]

ah i see

[paper sail]

Nah, I've got a Vman to fish

[green eagle]

soon enough i'll have all meals to level 50, and i still won't have the cooking artifact to take them to 60

[opaque sun]

If equinox are just the same as anyother resources, sure you only need 1 bb

[quiet pewter]

just spam all your boats at it? i did that recently and lcuked it on enough rolls

[green eagle]

they've been going to that island for 3 weeks

[quiet pewter]

have you tried upgrading your irl luck?

nice eldritch on those final artifacts though, guess you used up all the luck already

[green eagle]

i got the lantern eldritch without trying

[opaque sun]

Since elite swap is in rotation, its not a bad idea to get few of them now

[green eagle]

i was stockpiling the last resource for trade eco and got it on one claim cycle

i think i'll do frosty td to 130 today

[vestal yew]

whats your sailing speed? Just curious

[clear quartz]

think imma farm everyone up a full stack of grilled nomwiches and gold hampters, and then whine when w6 crafting comes out and i have to rebag/resupply everyone and have a whole new broken gold food to stack

[paper sail]

That's way too many hampters

but also like a greenstack of golden grilled cheese seems excessive

[clear quartz]

id probably be better off in 🅱️eans but gives me a reason to look at a different citrussy food item i guess

[dim pewter]

Do someone have a strong tower setup to link for the W5 TD ? 😄

[paper sail]

2 in https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[green eagle]

what do you mean?

[dim pewter]

❤️

[thorn marsh]

what minimum chest ya'll using?

[fervent brook]

I finally got all bubbles to atom range.

[muted slate]

depends on how much sailing time im claiming

[thorn marsh]

2h?

or well... 4h