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[hybrid spindle]

didn't we get the 2nd one in world 1 already 👀

what is he waiting for

[edgy osprey]

I don't think that was until a lot later

[hybrid spindle]

yes, it was later but you can unlock it in w1 alreay iirc

[edgy osprey]

Like in world one, but only once world something or another was out already

[hybrid spindle]

exactly

[edgy osprey]

So....good question, actually! Who knows

Let's just hope you don't have to draw another King Doot to get it

[hybrid spindle]

If one doesn't, then it's me

I know jack about this game ever since I returned

[edgy osprey]

Ah, another one! What was your reason for leaving?

[hybrid spindle]

another? As if I got one ^^

[edgy osprey]

Neither do I!

[hybrid spindle]

because mechanics that are based on punishing idling in an IDLE game are ridiculous

[edgy osprey]

I sorta get that

[hybrid spindle]

i hate spices

i hate cogs

[edgy osprey]

I mean, that wouldn't even be the worst, but my problem with it is how long it took til some things were fixed. Like mobile overflow

[hybrid spindle]

I like pretty much every single mechanic in the game, if we're only talking about how one affects the other

but the punishing not playing and the micromanagemend drove me mad

it still does

I saw the infinity signs and almost jumped

then i heard that doubling still only works on the one selected...

and I was back at square one

it's just so stupid

[edgy osprey]

Ngl I get your point, if I have to resample one more time again I'll mald

[hybrid spindle]

I just got back and I'm still not done resampling

It's just too much work to switch every single thing once for the sample and then back to the other build -.-

[edgy osprey]

And then you remember that switching to steam for farming deletes your skill loadout

[hybrid spindle]

hmmm I don't know about that

I've only been playing on steam for a long time

[edgy osprey]

From mobile to steam kills your loadout that isn't active

[gray pagoda]

#💖future-content-blog message
So... Is this coming soon? Seems like he's almost finished, which is kind of insane considering how long ago he started.

[tacit tulip]

about a week and a half at my guess

[edgy osprey]

Wio the fuck knows? Except for lava

[upbeat basin]

7 months

[hybrid spindle]

anyways, what I've seen so far doesn't get my hopes up. All the bothersome changing aside I still have lava's great comment about the game and money in the back of my head. I almost quit when the only money auto-loot was introduced and I had a similar reaction when I saw the companions -.-

[edgy osprey]

Remind me, what comment was that?

[edgy osprey]

And remember, Doot basically makes an entire skill completely obsolete!

[hybrid spindle]

obsolete is the wrong word

I LOVE it

because you can't even switch as much as you want

[edgy osprey]

I still don't know what I hate more, that or Doot

[hybrid spindle]

so it's obols, talents, star signs, prayers, and everything else in worse

[edgy osprey]

My gripes lie with all the RNG padding. Like I can deal with all else, but that just takes the piss

Well, I'm gonna play some MHW now, because my squirrel brain needs something to do

[surreal oxide]

how can i see what my max smelting is

like how many candies i can use on my SB before i gotta clean out my smelter

[paper sail]

There is no limit to the amount of Bars that can be held

Or if there is on, it is probably 2.1b

[surreal oxide]

so i can just sit there spam 1hr candies?

[paper sail]

Assuming you have yes

[surreal oxide]

yup

ty

does effiicency effect smeling at all>?

[old coyote]

automation arm doesnt work for all my accs with smithing produce, do i need to be playing on them for it to deposit?

[tacit tulip]

They deposit once a day at your reset but it's a bit iffy even then

[paper sail]

It's just trash. Pretend it doesn't exist, because the way it actually works is extremely unhelpful.

[tacit tulip]

made some nice exp gains today

[paper sail]

One more day

[cerulean hemlock]

Hello scoli my friend!

[paper sail]

I mean uh

Hi

[misty spindle]

can someone explain to me how to get idle skilling trophy? I have unlocked teehee 12 and can kill teehee 2, is that enough to get to 16 or do I need to be able to kill teehee 3?

[paper sail]

You need to be able to select Teehee16, so kill enough of the 15s

Depends on how many of the bonuses you have that let you kill X number of enemies ahead of you

I think I had to kill 5s, to also get kills on 15

[misty spindle]

whenever I use my candies it puts me back on certain areas

[paper sail]

Cloudsave BEFORE a candy

Candies in that game go from your last cloudsave

not your current progress

[misty spindle]

okay then, never new that was a thing

a lot of my stuff got messed up

[vale wadi]

how to get the 3 last meals? or is it not out yet?

[paper sail]

Idle Skilling crawled so IdleOn could walk. Maybe game 3 will be good enough to run

[old crane]

I remember I had to work on a bunch of cards after getting to teehee 2-4

[misty spindle]

basically

[paper sail]

Not out yet. Assumingly, it'll need the last spice that would be used on table10, but that spice isn't out yet.

[cerulean hemlock]

XD

[misty spindle]

is it better to go for the furthest teehee or the one before considering the diffrence in kills per hour

[paper sail]

Better what, exactly? If you are killing 10 enemies ahead, then 4 stops on 14 and would never clear 15. At some point you have no choice but to move forward.

I don't know though. I uninstalled that game as fast as humanly possible once I got my trophy and never looked back. 👎

[misty spindle]

👍

[bright current]

Its just uncanny how often i get these 2

[paper sail]

It is all Slime, Bored Bean, and Molti for me

[sly jetty]

where should i farm the 100k statues on archers for the quest?

[potent maple]

close the game for a min while ON the fighting screen (i always went back to training to cloudsave or something) then wait a minute then reopen. i struggled for weeks getting stuck where it sounds like you're stuck

[paper sail]

If you're just trying to abuse the AFK gains, you can clicj on Fight while already on Fight. That forces a reload, claims afk gains, and triggers all the bullshit afterlife gains

[misty spindle]

I have somehow managed to get to teehee 14 and Im able to unlock 15 by killing teehee 2, currently just trying to speed it up as much as I can

[potent maple]

yeah so go to teehee 15, close the game for a min, come back, see if it registers

wait, do i mean 16? i might be wrong

[misty spindle]

last one

thats what you mean right?

I just got a cloud sync error lol

[old crane]

teehee5 should get you kills on teehee15, tho I think I ended up getting some from teehee4 also

[potent maple]

i think for me i had unlocked 16, but couldn't actually KILL 15, so to make it count i had to click forward to 16 and close the game a sec then come back

[misty spindle]

thats bullshit I still cant kill teehee3 let alone 5

[old crane]

Something about moving up a stage or two after going back to fight screen to get the afk kills to count on higher teehee level

[potent maple]

so back to statues in this game 😄 i'm getting way lower drop rates on statues than what is showing on the chart in pins, i know i'm not as advanced as the people that made the chart, but i feel like i'm probably doing something wrong

[safe harness]

what is your dmg, the thing i was lacking that pushed me from teehee 2 to 3 plus the decimate shrine pink tube being at +9 from 1600+ levels was upgrading cards

[teal lynx]

What is your afk%?

[potent maple]

i'm farming crystals w5 for the last 3 statues, i'm certainly not doing afk on it

[teal lynx]

Oh thought u meant 100k on Dreadlo

What is your Dr then?

[misty spindle]

94, 4 orange stars

[safe harness]

you will need the pink tube 5 i think, the mop...the one that increases decimate to +9 which is like 1600 and then enough dmg to beat tehee 3

[teal lynx]

With 15x dr on Worms it took me around 2 weeks I think

Orb got to 800+ each time

[old coyote]

whats best shimmer reward?

[potent maple]

dr 11.07 on DK, orb lvl 226

[hybrid spindle]

am i just being massively trolled or are companions actually going to rotate?

[teal lynx]

Yeah most certainly it is your Dr. The guys in guide had something along 20x dr

[safe harness]

got full card slots? ifm not use free gems to get those...worth it with the 500 gem >1500 gem purchase

[old crane]

Star talent, skill eff I believe

[cerulean hemlock]

I think 8..?

[umbral tapir]

Ok, so I've finished all log vials....what should I be printing now? Assuming something for stamps or bubbles? (Oak is a given)

[misty spindle]

I have them yeah just need the tube I guess, I have 7 more mobs

level 900

[safe harness]

consider buying the dimond upgrade just for that tube and make sure you are doing the pet stuff

[misty spindle]

Dont you get more points in the tube the less of them are active? or am I wrong

[safe harness]

it needs to be like 1600ish if i recall, it levels faster the further you are with pets since each color adds more multipliers

[eager wraith]

What should I do next https://breakgsme.idleonefficiency.com/

[manic rivet]

🍿

[safe harness]

yes per color, but the difference between 900 and 1600 is an upgrade issue, you need to make sure your color upgrade tube on far left is pumped up to increase the tube gains

[misty spindle]

any other tube I need?

[potent maple]

when i was stuck on idleskilling i did have all lab unlocked and pretty high level, and dmg pets lvled up and all that, nothing diamond, but i did have just about everything "completed" that could help

[misty spindle]

same, I know im almost there

[safe harness]

all of them really, most important will be upgrading main tube hub to increase gains, most tubes add a little benefit...and then also make sure you track down dmg cards and make them legendary

[misty spindle]

I played this for fun back in the day and just now came back to finish it all

[sacred monolith]

Whats considered the best map for bubo CC these days?

[cerulean hemlock]

I'm in!

[dapper prism]

Wurm, last zone in w5

[manic moat]

what put me over the top was having the right cards in place

[potent maple]

have you checked out idleon toolbox? almost identical, but the front page has tons of "what should i do next" kind of hints on it

[cerulean hemlock]

Keys books

[misty spindle]

second last w4 if you can last zone w5

[sacred monolith]

Wurm over oranges even?

[potent maple]

wouldn't they have said oranges if they meant oranges? :p

[indigo mirage]

Hey with 9 divinity exp per hour how long will it take me to go from level 13 and 3/4 to level 25, 40, 60, and 80 respectively to unlock the styles at those levels?

[cerulean hemlock]

I've improved my damage by 66% over the past week (300 to 530 million) https://alexaaaaaa.idleonefficiency.com/
So whaddya think?

[potent maple]

depends, there are divinity gains on many of the gods bonuses, plus purrmep's doubling

[cerulean hemlock]

No idea, I think at the very least a month

[eager wraith]

I was asking more of like rate/ am I missing something on what I should be doing

[indigo mirage]

I do not have purrmep and the divinity gains on the gods bonus don't say divinity exp

[potent maple]

eh you're right on the div gains vs div exp, my bad

[potent maple]

missing stamps, your forge is empty, you have characters with unused hammers at the anvil, and that's just from looking at IE under world 1. i'd recommend what you do next is go through IE and see what it is trying to tell you to do next

[dapper prism]

Doesnt matter, your focus shouldnt be XP but points

[indigo mirage]

I'm trying to get to a level I can get multiple points. Level 80 seems the best for that, but level 60 seems the most efficient.

[dapper prism]

you wont hit lvl 80 in time, check pins

4878 xp from 13 to 25, at 9xp/h thats 22days 14h.

You wont even hit 60 before getting all the necessary gods

[frigid patrol]

Where at?

[sacred monolith]

Hey Trickz, whats this picture from?

[potent maple]

where what?

[dapper prism]

my spreadsheet, not public yet still work in progress

[potent maple]

hey trickz i was just asking a min ago, i'm farming w5 crystals at citringes and only got like ~3k statues overnight, i'm on my DK (at oranges) with 11.08x dr, you report much higher gains but ofc you're way ahead of me, does 3k overnight sound reasonable with that DR or am I likely missing something important?

[sacred monolith]

Ah Ok, was just looking into CC

[frigid patrol]

Does it say what you should do next

[indigo mirage]

Thanks

[potent maple]

on the front page, "dashboard" https://idleontoolbox.com/dashboard

[dapper prism]

Yeh havnt done much on my CC tab yet, but i have written a few things in the discord here

[teal lynx]

Hey Trickz, I got 100% Snake Vial, All Onyx and 20% on Startue EXP Bubble. Should I push the bubble more before turning in Kachow or is 20% good enough?

I saw 22.7% is 90% and it ain't that hard to push with some Atom Clicks
But at the same time I could use Atom Clicks for some other Bubbles

[potent maple]

trickz should have a pay service to fix all of our problems, would get rich in 1 day

[elfin idol]

Hey trickz, my hair is getting pretty long and my family dont like it when it gets in my eyes should I cut it?

[teal lynx]

Just gonna ping whole Endgame Chat next time :P

Or even better I ping everyone

[dapper prism]

No, you go visit your grandparents, they will give you money every time you see them to cut it, but you dont cut it. Profit.

[elfin idol]

My nan did always sneak me 20 with a whisper "Dont tell let anyone see"

[dapper prism]

IdleOn Coaching?

[dapper prism]

Not sure how many bubble clicks that is, I did go for 22.5% for a nice number 🤷
Then again I do have Larry at 2.1k+ (115%) so my 50 clicks get me an easy 100+ bubble progress a day

[teal lynx]

I'm at 110% larry, and it would be around 3 days of atom clicks for me. Think I got 44 Clicks per day atm

So probably will be worth it in the end

Since Kachow is hard to get outside of the quest

Ugh, 3 more days till my Dmg goes brrrrrrrrrr

[zinc torrent]

can anyone help me with a P name for peak gaming quest?

[tacit tulip]

the crit statues aren't as big of a jump as you'd hope for unforunately

you go from 2xish to 4.5xish, +4 from mega crits means 6 to 8.5 jump

that's still about a 40% dps increase, but all that really does is help you with ES portals

[sour oasis]

Where is the area that shows atom production/hr on toolbox or IE?

[dapper prism]

^ you don't really do it for the dmg. You mainly do it because its close to impossible to get those statues (for now) and why not min max it a little.
It wont make a huge difference. of the 100k kachow, you're essentially saving 2.5%. I mainly did it just so if i get the shimmer trial or so, maybe im lucky and hit the next breakpoint.

[tacit tulip]

you get shimmer trials that aren't "earn GP"?

[dapper prism]

Hey i just had that one

[tacit tulip]

I've had it 4 times already

[teal lynx]

A 40% damage increase is still nice. Even tho it doesn't help me that much on most characters for now

[tacit tulip]

aye, it'll only really help in two situations:

If you're not instantly killing when active
ES portals

[dapper prism]

Thing is, it does not help with MK tiers. And most stuff you will 1 shot very easily, so as ^ only purpose becomes ES portal

[cerulean hemlock]

The good times

[tacit tulip]

an extension on 1. actually, new rift levels it'll come in handy for sure

[dapper prism]

Wonder whats first, more rift or w6

[sly jetty]

where to farm 100k statues on bubo

[tacit tulip]

sticks is probably best

[tacit tulip]

my moneys on w6. Let people get some sick stats, then balance 50+ rift hp with a new formula that makes it a pain to clear again

[dapper prism]

Yup, same thoughts, plus we have a lot of benefits from it so far.

[tacit tulip]

yeah w6 would give us more things to upgrade using rift

I was actually expecting equinox to be a w6 thing before the most recent post - had a lot of cloud themes to it

[cerulean hemlock]

Better pray our chars are light

[dapper prism]

Same

[tacit tulip]

my moneys still on it coming out in about 2 weeks

[dapper prism]

equi?

[tacit tulip]

ye

he could just be being silly and refering to fornite for...reasons? That was posted a few days ago

[dapper prism]

oh right

a fortnight

[tacit tulip]

yeah

I can't find any other reason he'd put that there. Unless the equinox is a BR mode and...no

I refuse to believe it's that 🥲

[dapper prism]

BR ?

[tacit tulip]

battle royale - like fortnite

[dapper prism]

Pvp? xD

[tacit tulip]

So my copium is that the release is due about 10 days from now

[dapper prism]

• 17 days for delays
• 3 days for apple

[sour oasis]

He said by end of year copium

[young haven]

Anyone mind giving me some tips from my IE?
https://supportang.idleonefficiency.com/

[tacit tulip]

This is going to sound ruder than I'm intending but: You're in w5?

[young haven]

Yeah

[tacit tulip]

Alchemy, stamps, cooking are probably your 3 biggest areas

Alchemy I have a copy paste response for but you need to start getting the stamps you're missing and levelling them in general

[dapper prism]

For starters, stop using BB to push..

Stop playing BB, stop doing combat on BB, shouldnt even use him in W4.

[wanton robin]

Woo! 😄

[dapper prism]

Gratz! and t4 treat like mine 😄

[tacit tulip]

the BB advice is good, it's one of the worst active classes in the game

[young haven]

Any particular order of upgrading stamps ?

[dapper prism]

For starters, you're essentially ignoring 3D prints

[young haven]

And what class should I use to push instead of BB then?

[dapper prism]

everything is gmush spores atm 👀

[tacit tulip]

DK and Bubo are the best general use pushers

[dapper prism]

and the prints themselves seem low

[sour oasis]

@young haven your cooking is severely lacking. get cooking efficiency rings and cooking clogs from genies/purp mush and get some labels pumping

ladels*

[dapper prism]

Honestly nearly everything is lacking

[tacit tulip]

At your current stage no, just dump resources into stamps you can do. You can use IE to highlight which ones can be levelled right now.

[sour oasis]

tbh yes but cooking is like "i just started W4" lacking

[dapper prism]

Bad 3D samples = Bad stamps/alchemy which makes the bad samples.
Not using BB in kitchen = no laddles = no meal levels.

[sour oasis]

Missing a ton of stamps from early game

Most are easily acquired from mobs/quests

[dapper prism]

Thing is.. nearly everything is lacking.
1 w2 key per day.
All forges are empty
Anvil is full and not all assigned.

Stamps very low
Alchemy isnt even too bad, but not good.
Gear is alright*

[young haven]

Thanks for all the comments guys. Should I just stop pushing W5 for now then and focus on all the earlier stuff?

[tacit tulip]

100%

[dapper prism]

W5 is the ideal time to backtrack and do stuff like this to name a few:
https://imgur.com/c1RhPXA

[tacit tulip]

Pushing w5 right now gets you nothing useful - upgrading your w1-4 stuff will give you the foundation to push properly

[young haven]

And another question, should I use all/most characters to get caught up or still leave them in lab until lvl 75?

[dapper prism]

I'd still keep most in lab while getting tiger god.

But take maestro out, and other main ones

[tacit tulip]

yeah use goat to get purmepp, then do what feels best.

[dapper prism]

Your maestro has no rank 1 skills

Which again, affects your 3D prints which affects your alchemy, stamps etc.

[tacit tulip]

I really need to get a copy of the alchemy flowchart tbh

[dapper prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1156008499503968347/alchemyhow.png?ex=652dc64f&is=651b514f&hm=181fb5cd38add2338178f0427c535808f06e14a24ddb8bc91d8f7b7fea34efac&

[signal osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/741696802666840167/1088025180095381564/BuboEndGame.gif

[dapper prism]

That's literally me atm 👀

[signal osprey]

Same

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/cTtvEVB.png

[signal osprey]

Mines a lot less soon

[muted slate]

i want it to be me but im still in es hell of hampters

[signal osprey]

Probably need like 40-50 more cap levels for +2 gems

Also a few thousand more GT levels

[dapper prism]

yeh, lab off and purely pushing rate atm

[misty spindle]

how many are you getting per day?

[wind umbra]

is it better to balance con lvl of both dks or just have one big boi?

[tacit tulip]

big boi is btter if you can

[wind umbra]

aight thats good

dont have to swithc around which dk i farm on

[tacit tulip]

the better focus to be on the DK you aren't using actively

[signal osprey]

Maybe like 10 or so? Honestly havent really been keeping track

Plus its been slowing down too as the cost keeps scaling higher

[paper sail]

5k Soon ™️

[dapper prism]

Beautiful, mind sharing your levels?

[sour oasis]

Nutty

[upbeat basin]

You know, Someone used to joke around saying that they were going to steal the name Casual7. Guess it wasn't a joke -_-

[wind umbra]

missed the opportunity to call it casual 007

[upbeat basin]

Yeah, In the moment I was more wondering why and just went with 70 -_-

[misty spindle]

for rift tear is bubo or DK better?

[paper sail]

ES

[stoic silo]

is it worth to try and farm suggmas if my ES can survive when not using portal?

I'd be going for like 5k urns

[misty spindle]

just afk it

[stoic silo]

18% survivability

[misty spindle]

food?

goblet?

get bigger defence

[sour oasis]

If you have 18% survive you need to use food first, then quickly improve on FMJ levels

[tacit tulip]

so I started snapshotting con obols this week due to some nice advice

...how does one snap family obols? They don't stick once you swap chars

or do you swap them back after the character change, sec

ah okay, yep, that got it

[chrome tiger]

how do you benefit from con snapshotting anyway

don't you have to stick on dk?

[paper sail]

0. Put your active character on the map they will be active on overnight.
1. Swap to The Cons character
2. Equip family cons
3. Open Construction > Cogs > back to build
4. Swap to active character
5. Obols > Fix family obols
6. Auto away and enjoy your increased rates

Regardless of the character, snapping even Personal cons obols is a ~50% increase in build rate, not to mention cons exp

Step 4 might not be strictly required, but I like to see the number go up

[chrome tiger]

heh

seems strong, and also degenerate

you have to do this every time you switch active?

[paper sail]

I only do family cons snap before overnights

Personal cons snap is like 2 seconds of effort, so I do that more frequently. My main builder is the backup DK that sits in lab, so has personal cons obols on all the time. Just swap to DK and back to active character, done.

[sour oasis]

a well geared ES

[tacit tulip]

yeah, was step 5/6 I was doing in the wrong order 😄

[potent maple]

so in this con situation, are we looking to have saw obols in all the family slots too? is that what step 3 means?

then they'll still count after step 6?

[signal osprey]

Also a side note step 4 isnt actually required. Just swapping to the con mule and then to the active farmer is sufficient

Granted it only saves a few seconds

[potent maple]

while you might be right, i still hit save on files even though they say they're saved haha

[signal osprey]

Fair enough lol

[potent maple]

if you're over a certain age, this is a habbit that was developed 25 years ago and you refuse to break

[zenith ember]

i completed the kattlekruk merit tasks but didnt get the recipe, or at least I cant see it in the anvil, any suggestions?

[teal lynx]

Did u also buy them or only complete?

[potent maple]

my first computer (Apple ][e) the OS and such was on internal memory, but you couldn't write anything to it, only to the external disc drive, but you HAD to have the disc in the drive when you turned on the computer. i cant tell you how many times i programmed a few hours of code, only to go and save and realize i didn't do that important step. i cried.

[zenith ember]

nvm im an idiot

[paper sail]

Glad I wan't programming that early

[vestal delta]

2x greenstacks just finished...almost done the w1 grind 🫠

[paper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[vestal delta]

vanity greenstacks 😂

[paper sail]

I suppose.

[zealous niche]

I give you: a crippling fear of deposit all

[signal osprey]

That would be a good thing though

Green stacks are useless compared to the gains from those statues

[vestal delta]

but...imagine 200 greenstacks

[signal osprey]

One of those stacks of statues is more useful than the remaining 27 green stacks you need

[vestal delta]

🥹

[signal osprey]

Get your statues to 300+ and then you can consider green stacking

And when I say consider it I mean consider it and decide to go to 350+ and then green stack

[old coyote]

if you want the greenstacks

go for green stacks

dont be bullied

[signal osprey]

Well yeah its a game play it how you want but that doesnt mean I'm gonna give bad advice lol

[potent maple]

this already makes me not want to "deposit all", i want to do many deposits to smoothe out the statstical curve lol

[pearl cedar]

350 would take so many lol

[signal osprey]

The statue gains are objectively more impactful than the green stacks

[vestal delta]

if you think about it, it's just a linear delay in statue progress...
just need to get 10m more statues and deposit those 😂

simply shifting the baseline by 10m

[signal osprey]

Its only like 100m thats not too bad

[zenith ember]

whats better for trying to farm pendant DK with orb stacks from moles or just Void walker?

[signal osprey]

Orb doesnt work on the boss

[pearl cedar]

Only 6 months of beans ez

[zenith ember]

just kattlekruk or all world bosses?

[signal osprey]

All world bosses

[pearl cedar]

Minibosses are good though

[signal osprey]

6 months of beans sounds like a good time

[sick sentinel]

If ur vman can do nkattle i mean sure, but you'll prob want to use sb for the slight dr edge on reg chars

[zenith ember]

does SB's robbinghood not show in his drop rate?

otherwise my DK has higher DR at the moment

[sick sentinel]

Hmm maybe its just a rare bag buff thats not visible or whatever

Its not a big deal, do it on who you would like to

[zenith ember]

cool was just curios, difference is marginal once I respect obols just wasnt sure if it was hidden like maestros is

thanks for the help all

oh heck yea

got it to drop

[sick sentinel]

Ayoo

[zenith ember]

now to get 2 more so i can resample

[fast grail]

Do people have the mystery upgrade stone I green stacked yet?

[vestal delta]

working on it 🫠

[edgy osprey]

Can you roll all stat with those?

[fast grail]

only on non-crafted gear that has all stat%

so thats only kruk necklace

but would almost certainly get more stats from just using w5 stones

[edgy osprey]

Oh, so these don't work that way on crafted gear? Odd choice but okay

[fast grail]

there used to be some insane misc chain stacking crafting on gear, mainly pickaxes so that was removed

[edgy osprey]

Must've been before me... thank you!

Almost got my 500 hampters!

[tall horizon]

Exploiters ruin everything

[coral ravine]

do yall print bugs or monster mats on BM?

Both seem so insignificant.

[vestal delta]

bugs, it's about half of my SB print
insignificant, but not too bad

[gaunt shale]

I use him to print mats I need for salts so my vman is free to use his sample slots for mats I need a lot of

[cerulean hemlock]

Did the salty dude leave?

[tender lance]

Is a 4sec Tenteyecle good for Bubo cranium cooking? Or does it break it?

[gaunt shale]

why would it break it ?

[tender lance]

dunno, if the respawn skill would cast too often and not summon the farts

[gaunt shale]

nah dont have to worry about that

[placid mural]

hmmmm

[tender lance]

sweet thanks

[solemn rampart]

If I start a dungeon with 3 people and one leaves. Do they lose the x10/20 "first happy hour of the day" bonus?

[bold quiver]

isnt that bonus er week?

[solemn rampart]

Oh probably yeah.

[bold quiver]

like can only do 1 time per week a boosted run up to x20, then all other attempts are capped at 3x

[solemn rampart]

Also I'm pretty sure that if someone leaves, everyone else keeps the x3-20 bonus.

[bold quiver]

or am i wrong?

[bold quiver]

oh yeah, they keep

[solemn rampart]

Shoutout to that one other guy that could've gotten x20 on the fourth boss then.

[bold quiver]

sometimes dungeon just crashes D:

[solemn rampart]

They explicitly said "why start with 3" before he left.

[bold quiver]

oh lol

they might not know that, the more people u have, the higher mob hps have '.'

[solemn rampart]

Mobs don't scale, the nests do.

Also drop rate lowers.

[bold quiver]

oh so nest

[solemn rampart]

Which makes it significantly more likely to get stalled at the eye drop or ribcage drops.

[bold quiver]

but yeah, its usualy easier to clear with 1 strong guy and 2 weeak, than a bunch of weak guys and 1 strong

[solemn rampart]

Since with many people you are very likely to have a bunch that can't beat those enemies.

[bold quiver]

yeah

its only around rank 40ish that u become able to "solo clear" dungeon properly

kinda of a grind up to that

[signal osprey]

[tall horizon]

Dayum

[sharp vine]

I know it's been asked dozens of times but I can't recall the answer for it. Why are none of my super chows counting for eclipse? Or is it just a UI error saying I have 0? (I've cloud saved and backed out of the game a few times now, kinda standard procedure)

[paper sail]

If you have multiple BBs, only the newest on Steam or oldest on Mobile counts for super chows

[sharp vine]

Ahh okay. Any clue if elite swapping fixes it? Been meaning to get the 2nd squire running anyway, this would just be the best motivator to actually do it

[gaunt shale]

it did for me

[sharp vine]

Word, thanks guys

[placid mural]

if the update doesnt come til next week i may be able to hit 30k GT. . . .

i was really hoping it would be this week so i could stop my bubo farm

[signal osprey]

I mean you can stop whenever you want lol

[placid mural]

i know. . . but i made a promise to myself last update that i would bubo grind until the next update

[solemn rampart]

Btw anyone else has constant issues where the game crashes because the anti-lag feature is behind a paywall (autoloot) and when it crashes, it resets all your skill presets, card loadouts and locked inventory slots?
Same happens if you switch devices.

[placid mural]

anyone here think its worth using elite class swap tokens to switch BB and BM to DK and SB to level them to 500 then switch them back? lol

[tall horizon]

5k family isn't that bad tbh, switch not needed.

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure class swapping can break your family bonus so I wouldnt do it anyway

[placid mural]

im at 4900 with BM, BB, and Vman all around 450

[placid mural]

switching them back would fix it right?

or would switching BB to DK get rid of his chows?

[tall horizon]

What's your gt? I got 5k forever ago with only ~6k gt

[placid mural]

22k

[tall horizon]

Don't think we have any confirmation on this

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure there was a bug that made that character just not count for family bonuses

Like even if you swap back it just doesnt work

[tall horizon]

22k gt... you should be able to hit 5k family easily

[placid mural]

ive parked my BB, BM, and Vman at wurms and its taking forever 😦

[tall horizon]

Active on other chars and push them higher

[paper sail]

Gotta do it active

[tall horizon]

Active exp is insanely higher

[placid mural]

active on any of those three is like shoving white hot needles in the eyes

[tall horizon]

Then do it on sb/es/bubo/dk

[placid mural]

i have been lol

[tall horizon]

whats your set up looking like? if you have the standard 2 sb/es/dk you should be able to get all of those to 500, bubo/dk 525+

higher even

if your bubo is that, i bet you've completely ignored the other active chars for xp grind

[placid mural]

BB, BM, and Vman are the only 3 characters under 500

[placid mural]

lawl

[tall horizon]

you dont need all chars 500+

Active exp crystal setup + your gt should push you the last 100 levels relatively quickly

[old crane]

If vman, bb, bm are 450 and bubo 552, I think just 516 average on es/dk/sb would get you there

[opaque sun]

DKs are also easy to get it to 550+

dk and bubo should able to cover for bb/vman/bm

[tall horizon]

easily

I think they're just not activing on other chars

Exclusively bubo

[placid mural]

i was at 508 on bubo at the weekly boss update, so 508 to 552 in 3 weeks

but also my GT was only 10k at the start of my bubo farm

[cerulean hemlock]

Btw Rash, Hotair said multiple mods agreed to give me the No XP role! Were you one of them?

[signal osprey]

Well your GT is more than enough at this point. Stop buboing and start DK/SB at wurms and youll get 5k a lot sooner than just pushing bubo more

[tall horizon]

I think you're lucky to not have been banned or perma muted yet.

[cerulean hemlock]

😅

[signal osprey]

Unless you have 2 bubo in which case swap to the second and keep going that way

[zinc torrent]

Is it normal that I only get 1.5k fairies p/h when I'm pre w5?

[cerulean hemlock]

It's fine

[zinc torrent]

And 2.3k (hard fishing spot) per hour?

[worldly hollow]

I remember seeing a sailing chart for how long it took to get to each island. iirc it was either a spreadsheet or a link and i cant seem to find it

[opaque sun]

also called wiki

[worldly hollow]

just rechecked th wiki, and unless the whiskey is making me miss it i dont see it there lol

disregard, gotta do some math lol thanks

[opaque sun]

oh you mean do all the math type of thing. I though you just meant distance

[tall horizon]

IE displays thats

[old crane]

IE very helpful for figuring out best boat/captain combinations

[zinc torrent]

what's IE?

[tall horizon]

!ie

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger#6559

[worldly hollow]

ah i see now

[placid mural]

i swear to F--- i wish i could return this to the gem shop

[mighty shuttle]

Waiting for better boat interface

[feral girder]

Why

[placid mural]

i end up spending hours trying to clear the garden because of it

literal hours

[tall horizon]

succumb to harvest all

[placid mural]

i cant waste nugget rolls like that

[tall horizon]

not like you'll get a bigger nugget anyways

[feral girder]

Yeah. Just harvest all

[opaque sun]

complaining from success

[feral girder]

failing to succeed

[placid mural]

not so true. . . i have a pretty good nugget

[tall horizon]

wtf

so greedy

[feral girder]

Bruh

[tall horizon]

no sympathy lol

[feral girder]

I’d kill for that

What level shovel?

[placid mural]

exactly that is because i spend hours doing garden properly instead of harvest all. . . .

[opaque sun]

i wouldnt kill, but will hit a car for that

[placid mural]

but its driving me insane

[old portal]

Any tips for sailing lol iam almost done unlocking and getting ancient on all artifact just last island left but only 1 can farm that any tips to get faster boats

[placid mural]

but i got it maybe 50 levels back

[old portal]

Lvl 91 sailing aswell if that helps

[placid mural]

mayb 30 levels back

[feral girder]

Fair

[tall horizon]

loot focus, farm older islands bump speed/loot

[opaque sun]

upgrade more ships so you can send more

[crystal raven]

ive seen a 400k nug but mine is still🤏

[placid mural]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-black-full-pull-fool2cool4school-juicy-gif-11005264

[old crane]

Just cuz of chemical? I dont get many of those yet

[placid mural]

yeah i end up getting caught in loops where i gain 2 chemicals for every 1 i use and it can end up taking me 3+ hours just to empty the garden

and in that time i will get something like 200-400 nugget rolls

happens every couple days

[old crane]

Hmm but the gaming gains lol

[placid mural]

oh dont get me wrong, its huge gaming gains, but it gets very very old reaaaally fast

[tawny oxide]

Is 35 a good nugget it was the first one I got and was wondering how high I should aim for

[placid mural]

https://tenor.com/view/biggie-smalls-skys-the-limit-pimpin-swag-throne-gif-11087898

[tawny oxide]

Ok so is 35 a good number or can I easily get it higher somehow?

[old crane]

Its rng

[placid mural]

just keep building your shovel and roll your nugs

[old crane]

You will get higher soon probably

[tawny oxide]

Was just wud ring since I got 35 then the rest of been like 2-5

[old crane]

Ive had a 12k nug for past couple months

[tawny oxide]

Oh so it goes much higher then

[placid mural]

much much higher

[tawny oxide]

So 35 is not high then

[old crane]

sado has like a 130k

[placid mural]

max roll for me is 528k

[tawny oxide]

What’s those red bits

[placid mural]

though i will likely never hit that

[gaunt shale]

dont forget, pitty everyone who has lower nuggie than you and hate everyone who has a bigger nugget cuz they clearly dont deserve it and you have been stuck on same nugget for 5 months and if I dont soon get a higher nugget im going to cry

[old crane]

They go from white to green to red to purple then blue, I'm only on green still lol

[tawny oxide]

How high is it until green

[placid mural]

i think it changes over after QQQ

[old crane]

I think its at 1000q that it changes, when it would change to QQ

[old coyote]

how much does someone being at cooking matter?

[gaunt shale]

well you want laddles or however you spell them, so kinda a bit

[placid mural]

i actually have my BB and both my DKs on cooking right now

getting 7300 ladels a day baby! (plus PO box chance for double)

[warm ocean]

For the nothing island... can I afk in a town and do nothing or do I actually have to be on the island?

[placid mural]

You are supposed to be able to afk in town

[candid vine]

Is it worth to buy anything from the W5 Gem shop?

[placid mural]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-laugh-gif-19431096

what is your disposable gem availability like?

this is nice

also nice

and also nice

[candid vine]

Thanks!

[leaden karma]

i dont know what i'm doing but progress is progress

[fast grail]

Gains are gains, all progress is good progress.

[old portal]

if iam going for resources value should i use SB talent or still no?

[opaque sun]

unending sailing mean less chests for more exp basically

Less chests, less loot

[old portal]

i see thought it scales better

[opaque sun]

The upgrade chance is kind of low to a point you lose more

[old crane]

Tho it doesn't upgrade until you are maxed on chests and won't be getting any more anyways?

I thought it was just lower artifact chance but more loot

[opaque sun]

its more exp but less loot overall unless compared to a sailing you havent checked for 3 days or so

[long thunder]

i just unlocked the shovel and dug and got a 7.79 is that any good idk how it works

[burnt sail]

It's not good but everyone starts somewhere. You'll get a better nugget in no time, just keep claiming frequently.

Pure RNG. Upgrading it on the import tab gives you bigger nugget range.

[long thunder]

okay thanks btw does it take a long time to unlock all the imports bc it looks expensive

[opaque sun]

depends on your bit multiplier

If like say a lucky nugget, you can get many of those imports pretty much instantly

[clear quartz]

so if im reading how the collider purchase works, if i want to get the snail saver to work for the next group of 5, i need to push it to lvl 6? or

[opaque sun]

It resets to the nearest 5s you ever reached

Basically makes a reset checkpoint

[clear quartz]

but i need +5 points for each checkpoint yes? or is the single point all that is ever needed?

[opaque sun]

what points

If you mean atom levels, you only need 4 lvls of atom to make the check point go up to lv 20 snail

Atom 5-20 are just lava being lazy not bothering to cap a specific atom lvl

[lone galleon]

is there an efficient percentage to try for unlocking chemical plant?

[opaque sun]

more frequent is better than saving up

So usually like research after each “harvest all”

[lone galleon]

so it would be better every time i pick plants to go for it?

ahh gotcha

tyty

[opaque sun]

Research per plant harvest is doable, but usually too much of clicking hassle

[lone galleon]

ya that's fair

[clear quartz]

ohhhh only 4 ok thats pog

[dapper prism]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[lone galleon]

ooo

[vocal ibex]

I have 235 items missing from slab.

Why is goldfish and platinum ore still missing 🤣

[tribal bloom]

What class is better for farming hampters? I thought dk would be but my DR is 13 and it's taking a lot longer than I thought it would

Should I switch to bubo or es?

[vocal ibex]

i picked them up miltiple times it doesnt mark as alreay owned

ES because of the skill it makes more spawn

[crisp silo]

dungeon ores

and stuff

[vocal ibex]

ahhhhhh

okay thanks handsome

[pearl cedar]

ES needs some beefy damage for w5 mobs

[gentle furnace]

w3 dungeon

[vocal ibex]

yeah i got it freedumb messaged

i just need to kill the 3rd diffuculty not easy for me

[fast grail]

Im so far away from 5k family
Think at this point, just gonna wait until w6 to do it easily

[sharp wind]

Finally

[stable berry]

Why is active ES crashing the game?

[clear quartz]

what is the trick to the big brain wurm quest thing? do you have to have that prayer only equipped or

[formal minnow]

Mob drops usually stacking up, also why it causes your reset time to be moved during desync

[stable berry]

I only have statues, glass shards, stones and rare loot as the drops everything else is filtered

[formal minnow]

So no items on the ground at all?

[stable berry]

Exactly

[clear quartz]

i think just items spawning in general makes it overflow eventually, since same, eventually it just crashes after running on a single map for too long

[stable berry]

Fml looks like only getting 1,700glass shards a run then

Before crashing

[winged barn]

Does getting Pet Breeding AFK from Omniphau count for the shiny level up time?

[clear quartz]

believe it just spawns eggs, didnt notice the breedability surging forward at least

or definitely the shiny stuff

[winged barn]

k, ill save up some time and make sure to take note of it specifically

[clear quartz]

i dont notice shiny lvls being affected by anything and i get that one rolling fiarly often, which i would think if it were hitting those id have more dudes at lvl 5+ but perhaps now

[stable berry]

What’s a more efficient way to get glass shards, since ES crashes, does that mean DK is better?

[formal minnow]

I haven't crashed on my dk, but I also am no where near getting 1700 on a single farming run

[stable berry]

A single run before ES crashes, roughly 9-12hours I get roughly 1700. DR x19.5 dmg-400b-840B MK-7045%

Each portal gets me 4-6 shards

[clear quartz]

i do it on dk usually but i havent run a comparison tbh

[stable berry]

DK would get me I think 1-3 per orb with DRx17

How many shards do you get per orb?

[clear quartz]

ill test

[last pecan]

So I just hit world 5, should I throw everyone on the altar first thing?

[clear quartz]

yeah about 3 per orb for me at 17.54, hm

[dapper prism]

Opening a shoe store
https://i.imgur.com/Vam4ZJ9.png

[dapper prism]

Kinda, check pins for more info. Use an active if/when you can

W5 is the ideal time to backtrack and do stuff like this to name a few:
https://imgur.com/c1RhPXA

[last pecan]

thanks for the link! I've got most of these done

[sharp wind]

Whats the best trophy and cape for sampling?

[last pecan]

https://idlearq.idleonefficiency.com/

probably small stuff here or there but I feel like I'm on track for the most part

[dapper prism]

Trophy
Idle skilling / Fractal / else probably divine for stats.

Cape:
The rose afk one, the gemshop afk one, else maybe divine afk one

[sharp wind]

Rose best right?

I got rose

[dapper prism]

Oh actually, the food trophy could be good too (i just always forget about that one since i dont own it)

[sharp wind]

Ah yeah food trophy since i dont have idle skilling one

[sharp wind]

Thanks

[dapper prism]

Theres 3 different rose ones, only 1 is better than the angel (gemshop) one afaik

[sharp wind]

Was wondering is snapshot still works now?

[dapper prism]

For stats yes,

[sharp wind]

Could i take a look at your snapshot card trickz?

[dapper prism]

See this then the link within it: #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

sec

this on my mages:
https://i.imgur.com/Znn2cWY.png

[sharp wind]

All right thank you

[dapper prism]

dont think ive ever bothered with the warris

[sharp wind]

Thanks for tips trickz

[dapper prism]

Back to eclipse

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/ovcb2Lm.png

https://i.imgur.com/hLKQU07.png

That was some nice candy spent.*

Seekers will be Active ES for keys since I need 6k+ keys and W5 slowly working on it.

[clear quartz]

ah rip, yeah keys is gonna be a chore for w4

[patent hatch]

ive been lazy getting the world 4 trophie

[dapper prism]

I havnt even gone for w2 trophy (still only 1x w1)

[patent hatch]

poggers

got enough mats for the crackled skull destroyer, only to realise i didn't have enough nullo salt

rip

[dapper prism]

rip

[tribal bloom]

What's the strat if you're missing a plant?

In gaming*

[patent hatch]

ive been in w5 since day 1 and still dont have chem

u just spam research and pray

[upbeat basin]

Makes me sad every time I click research

[stable berry]

Gonna test a theory out if telekinetic storage skill will cancel out the crash I shall check back in tomorrow peeps

[vocal ibex]

For the chocolate hat recipe can I use skills?

No auto attack but can I spam my skills ?

[elfin cape]

What crash?

[stable berry]

Active ES on sandy pots crashes my game after 8-12hours I’d being active with loot filtered

It seems it crashes/freezes my game

[tribal bloom]

I been spamming at .1 since I heard that's the best way

But I'm keeping kitsune on, and abandoning everything else to get that plant lol

[upbeat basin]

Been doing that for about a week now and still missing the last 2.

[tribal bloom]

Ugh I've been on Chem plant for what feels like months now

So I feel it

Hope you get evergreen

[upbeat basin]

I usually collect on 1% as it only takes me about 10-15 min but yeah

sad times

[patent hatch]

Gaming has always been the worst skill in the game regardless

And sailing artifacts too RNG is anti fun imo

[tribal bloom]

I'm gonna try the 1% method for a few weeks

It really is

Such a boring feature, and tedious.

[upbeat basin]

Yeah, But ones you get the last 2 It snowballs nicely

[clear quartz]

trying to hit t6 on plants, i think after i hit the one for base plant ill hold off on the rest, has been painful thus far

[dapper prism]

You got chems?

[dapper prism]

1% too high (for chem imo). Just do it as often as you see it.
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[tribal bloom]

Oh okay thanks

[clear quartz]

i do, i just think my other stuff is too low maybe

[dapper prism]

and kitsune is on?

[clear quartz]

indeed

trying to keep 2 chems around before consuming one, and have 5 ish t5 plants ive been trying to turn

[dapper prism]

Seems too little

10x T5's with a 3min cycle (and lvl 300 evo chance in muta) is ~150days average (affected by chems/log)

As simple as just having 5 t5's would make that 300 days instead of 150 days

And if you don't have the 3min cycle, then it's even worse.

[clear quartz]

oh yeah, 5min cycle for me

ill just go back to consuming normally since im just asking for a headache trying to do it now it sounds like

[sharp wind]

Trickz could u show me your sampling card build if u dont mind

Since i dont know what else to put after food effect, skill eff, afk skill

[dapper prism]

typically just this, change mainstat based on class:
https://i.imgur.com/82adXHm.png

Off to bed, good night!

[sharp wind]

Thanks

[clear parcel]

i have 140 checkouts, is using the book reservation system worth it?

[sinful aurora]

excuse me HOW MANY?!

[untold saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-you-what-what-did-you-do-spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-gif-19389913

[clear parcel]

ive been idling a bit 🙄

any must have talents i should check out at max if its even worth it spending 20 checkouts on book?

[halcyon spoke]

is purrmep necessary if you've unlocked all gods/reached that last focus... only 1 god rank unlocked tho

[thin kernel]

that moment when you hit 100 in skill and you can now farm status on you dk once more 😄 well time to farm a lots of them now XD

[fast grail]

Welcome back to beans, hope you enjoy your stay

[vocal ibex]

what the drop rate for penguine signed comtract drops ?? i ben here for 10 minutes

oh nvm

got 1

[prisma furnace]

Whats the most annoying statue to farm for onyx?

and/or most time consuming

[fast grail]

W3 statues probably

[eager sedge]

Oceanman statues

[fast grail]

Each is like 300+ hours or candy for a decent account

[upbeat basin]

Really? I feel w4-w5 statues were way more time consuming.

[fast grail]

Oceanman is about the same amount

Nah, with DK those are easy, and can be doing something useful at same time, like pearlers

[upbeat basin]

I farmed w3 statues with dk in about a 2 days without candies.

Unless you are refering to the seesaw

[rich robin]

what should be my next island after trash sihimmer and seasalt

[prisma furnace]

Seasalt is really good to lvl your fishing

Many people take it, so you can easier reach the 1000lvl on skill mastery

[rich robin]

i allready have that. it was the fourth island im getting too 😉

[prisma furnace]

Shimmer is okay, but if you dont have a well rounded endgame account I dont feel like you get a lot out of it

Ah okay I misunderstood xD

[rich robin]

those i listed is the ones ai allready have 😅

[prisma furnace]

Crystal island is good

It's a decent income of candies and such from the Giant crystal mobs, and if you have a Chocolate chip cookie equipped on the guy killing em you can get a bunch of XP aswell

[steady beacon]

Im confused by the tired mole quest in w5 - I've killed 10m+ moles according to the card, and I've unlocked the next map, but the quest giver says I've only killed 3.5m. Does multi kill not work on that quest?

[rich robin]

yeah i think its between that and rando island

[prisma furnace]

Pretty sure it only counts raw kills

I have the same

[steady beacon]

Wow, that's insane.

Surely that's a bug. The next quest in the chain is 10m.

[prisma furnace]

Rando island is okay, but if you do a random event out in the world there isnt one on the island it seems. And rando island is a place where you want to spend your bottles, so should be saved till you dont want to unlock islands I feel

[rich robin]

oh okay

[teal lynx]

Active only counts raw kills and afk also counts multikill. Therefore just do them afk, when your acc is ready for it

[prisma furnace]

I have started spending some bottles on rando island, cause I dont care for fractal island atm

[rich robin]

good point

[pastel bramble]

very disappointing

no colour change

[daring ravine]

Its raw kills active
Afk you get the kills you got on the afk info
Its like that for every "kill X" quest

[thin kernel]

lvl 30 O-o

it have take some time ?

[pastel bramble]

only like 11 months or whatever release date was

every 5 levels has a diff colour but it stops at 30 i guess 😭

[patent hatch]

lava probs thought people wouldnt get there

[thin kernel]

so you was relly lucky.. and now got a lots of ghost XD

is it only me or are cooking exp not that good? ( can get around 5-6k/h on v-man)

[solid epoch]

anyone get their gaming growback time to under 1min yet? wonder how much squirrel u would need

[pulsar cliff]

It's awful lol

[edgy osprey]

Ah, finally! I have it!

[patent hatch]

gz

[edgy osprey]

The hampters?

Oh.... because you need 500 of those and 1000 golden ones, so I thought you meant those

[pine yacht]

is this good enough to start schowing ?

[worthy skiff]

What is the recommended setup for ruby-ing skilling cards? I'm guessing Vman, cap skill speed, as much card DR as possible and the rest in afk gains?

[vocal ibex]

question about dungeons where do i check my level why am i getting such low xp and stuff at rewards

[edgy osprey]

Bottom left, if you're talking about skilling/level exp because it's not the main method intended to get those, everything else because that's the way it is, it's a slow burn. Also maybe you're constantly rolling low numbers and are just a bit unlucky

[edgy osprey]

Not the worst

[patent hatch]

halfway to my target :D

[glad crow]

wasnt paying attention lul

[sly jetty]

looking to farm 100k statues on es what would be the fastest mob?

dont care about the statue

[edgy pendant]

W1 anywhere really

If you don’t have the 200k power statues might as well go beans

[full plover]

guys let me ask something
the only mechanic I feel delayed is pet.

Im on w5 for like 1 month even more and still with this pets

Is that normal? or Im like forgeting something that will buff pet chance a lot cause these thing are so damn hard to unlock

[upper hornet]

just gotta look everywhere for + breeding odds and some will still be pretty rough

[elfin idol]

you could try hard and claim 2mins of splicer on all your characters

[upper hornet]

theres also a stamp that increases dna gain, but it gets expensive quickly

[upbeat basin]

Also this really helps with new pets.

[elfin idol]

Im level 59.5 whats that (60)one do

[upper hornet]

iirc cooking is pretty huge for breeding, and actually pushing breeding levels as well, though that can be quite slow until you get all the xp multipliers and decent egg drop rates

Unlocks the 5th Breeding Multiplier, Failure. This increases every time you fail to get a new/shiny pet, up to a max, and depletes when you succeed.

[tacit tulip]

level 60 gives you increased odds every time you fail to unlock a new pet. It makes getting the last ones really easy

[elfin idol]

Oh shit

Ive got half of w4 left to unlock thatd be huge

[tacit tulip]

you get 10 stacks per level of the skill

I levelled mine to 4, would use 40 eggs to fail, then get like a gold egg and the odds would be nearly 100%

[elfin idol]

thats with some bredability and splice levels?

[tacit tulip]

barely any breedability tbh

I was getting 1-2 pets a day haha

[elfin idol]

looking forward to that, i wanna focus on shinys but my fenceyards always been breedability

[upbeat basin]

Honestly feel like I didnt focus that hard on breeding and it gradually just got better and better. Currently collecting all the shinies

[chrome tiger]

Best acceleration for breeding is to kill the w4 mini boss with dk orb high and get many eggs

You can also get eggs from killroy

[upbeat basin]

True. I farmed w4 colo with dk for ladles and ended up with enough eggs that I still have tons left over.

But yet again i saved up colo tickets for about a year so.

[chrome tiger]

That'll do it

[upbeat basin]

Was planning to save them for next colo but lost my patience 😅

[tacit tulip]

it's gonna be real hard to justify using tickets on colo 5 if/when they come out

[upbeat basin]

How so

[full plover]

but do you all upgrade genes boost from splice? I think I did it once lol

[sharp wind]

Its been too long since last resample

[glacial venture]

before lava gives us new colo he should give us new colo quest...

[pine yacht]

maybe if we get another source of those tickets along with it

lol feels like IRL

[last pecan]

woah hang on

does King doot give you all divines from the get go!?

I've been getting AFK bonuses on things I shouldn't be

[glacial venture]

i think only those that you got

[safe harness]

is there a faster way to make crafted items than just holding down mouse

[glacial venture]

what you mean? like candies?

[last pecan]

Well I've been getting afk bonuses for things and divine pearl drops from the altar

[glacial venture]

can come from star signs too

[upbeat basin]

Depends, quicker to craft from inventory than storage.

[safe harness]

im crafting from storage, but after like 15 minutes, i only crafted like 100k but need 600k

[elfin idol]

you get the ones you havent got yet, but cant level their minor bonuses

[upbeat basin]

Yeah so craft from inventory

[last pecan]

ok wow yeah that's crazy good then

means I don't need to be sitting in divinity with everyone from the get go

can put them back in lab 😄

[elfin idol]

100%, I hate to think how many months ahead I am because of 2 months of doot

[upbeat basin]

shhh

[safe harness]

omg, thank you

[upbeat basin]

Np ^^

[last pecan]

This is happening after every 10 mins of afk time

that doesn't seem right

[elfin idol]

It rounds up

[last pecan]

ok that makes a lot more sense

[elfin idol]

you got 10 mins, look at gaming screen to see it say +10 mins progress

[last pecan]

I was going to say getting 1 hour for 10 mins afk time is stupidly busted

[last pecan]

will this still take effect if they're in lab?

[elfin idol]

yeah, read elephant god thats whats doing that

[last pecan]

ok so I guess everyone goes in lab from this point then

[elfin idol]

Youve got arctis, theyre already in lab

[last pecan]

oh so you can do either or?

I want to make sure they're getting exp for both

[elfin idol]

You have every god at all times, you only need to link 1 to bunny eventually

[elfin idol]

You wont get lab exp without being in lab, though yeah

[last pecan]

ah right so definitely all in lab then

[elfin idol]

Never sit on divinity alter again, i havent haha

[grizzled elk]

You only get your actual afk time progress, it says 1 hour though because Lava

Shit don't mind me, I'm late to the party, I forgot to scroll down

[last pecan]

does doot make it so people are actively gaining altar exp even when they're doing other stuff?

sorry, I just got to world 5 so I'm wrapping my head around the divinities still

[elfin idol]

No, you just go to lab and its as if youre on altar too

[last pecan]

ah ok sweet

I just say that because my main appears in lab I asume becuase of Arctus link

[elfin idol]

Hes in lab but cause hes not in a tube theres no exp gain

[last pecan]

didn't know if that doubled up to also count the goat bonus

Cheers for clarifying

[glacial venture]

you can see who is "really" in lab by the on/off sign

[last pecan]

ok that makes a lot more sense

awesome that I can at least use my active characters to link up in the lab now

[elfin idol]

Not sure what your priority is rn but still putting people in lab for exp enough to connect to all lab is up there

[upbeat basin]

Without doot so many characters stuck on arctis

[glacial venture]

without doot getting ALL lab boni need about 8 chars in lab.....way too many

[last pecan]

I've been working on so much stuff idk what my biggest prio should be. I'll link my efficiency page
https://idlearq.idleonefficiency.com/

[glacial venture]

answer without even looking at it: alchemy

[last pecan]

always a prio, I'm trying to farm materials for it

[glacial venture]

if its mob mats...use ES for it

[elfin idol]

carpenter is already level 28 haha

[glacial venture]

or farm with bubo..1 stone 2 birds

[zinc torrent]

what was the play with krunk armour again? boots and helm on mage and warrior. chest legs on archers?

[elfin idol]

Stop auto refineing red salts

[glacial venture]

anything you mostly play afk...respawn gear

[upbeat basin]

Yeah honestly alchemy being the center point and than you just upgrade legit everything else around it like for example stamps/statues/cooking etc gradually and after about a week or so you will see your account will start to slowly snowball.

[glacial venture]

salt have a max amount per lvl...which is 1m

once you reach that point each lvl gets faster and faster

[last pecan]

do I want to upgrade my red combustion further?

[glacial venture]

cause output rise but max needed for lvl not

[elfin idol]

Always, red and green never auto refine

[glacial venture]

never stop upgrading your red salts

[last pecan]

I've heard this but I havent hit that point yet after a few weeks

probably havent alch'd hard enough hahaha

[glacial venture]

most here have the bubbles for w6 already unlocked once we get w6

[upbeat basin]

In 1 month of finding a certain flow my progress is starting to go pretty smooth. example my dmg was max 600m last month and now my max dmg is 50b

[elfin idol]

I think w5 star for me was chasing talent book levels, talent book check out time for the acheivement and using it on bubo

[upbeat basin]

3d prints up considerably

[elfin idol]

Salt lick your talent levels, and get this up

[upbeat basin]

I think the hardest thing about progressing is the patience to find what you lack the most and focus on it and not get side tracked my the idea of ez progress.

The amount of times I've looked at alchemy bubbles that are lacking and went to fix it only to go "oh yeah onyx statues" or oh yeah greenstacks and so on.

[glacial venture]

having a high lvl of cranium cooking is important

[last pecan]

Yeah haven't worked enough on bubo

[glacial venture]

and having maxed mana po box too

[elfin idol]

hes your main now

[last pecan]

Which one? I have two lol

[glacial venture]

if you want to fix alchemy you must main bubo

[last pecan]

Should I class change one?

[glacial venture]

not yet

[elfin idol]

Short term no, two CC early can be good

[last pecan]

I figured two cranium cookings would be optimal working on alchemy

[glacial venture]

if you got 2 bubos...use both till you got 200+ tent eye on one of them

[last pecan]

Ah yeah that's the tricky part

Might focus my first one as he has higher skilling lvls

[upbeat basin]

But at the same time don't try and push something that is beyond your account to achieve within a certain amount of time. like if you can't push certain alchemy bubbles don't get stuck trying to farm 1000m of materials when at a later point you will be able to 3d print enough skilling resources to keep pushing them.

[bleak gust]

is it ok to have 2 chars out if i only have hare god

[last pecan]

That's been my biggest concern farming materials. I don't want to bust my guts for something less significant for progress

I hyper focussed on pushing through to world 5 because I had doot

Past that point though I'm at a bit of a loss

[elfin idol]

Once you get enough divinity pearls get everyone to 50 skill in everything, thats a huge amount of talent points and free progress

[edgy pendant]

Focus everything on gettin fury eldritch 😛

[upbeat basin]

If i was going to recommend you do anything right now its to push the 300% multi big bubbles.

for better prints

[glacial venture]

put royal sampler on everyone if you dont have already

[last pecan]

Got this sorted thankfully

[elfin idol]

Do w4 collo on DK for huge cash injection

[last pecan]

I was doing world 3 for ages to try and farm chiozar keys

[elfin idol]

Nah w4 for eggs ladles and like 1 to 4 of the coins after your purple ones

it rocketed me

[last pecan]

Wow damn, yeah I didn't realise you get that much

I still need to unlock my 5th kitchen

[elfin idol]

Chizoar keys youre only getting 4 a day, do the rest of the quests

[glacial venture]

seeing that you got 2 bbs....only farm kills on 2nd bb

[last pecan]

Few guys are stuck on the giant mob part

[elfin idol]

Ohh ofc ye, i remember being soft locked there

[last pecan]

I've got most to the last map

[last pecan]

Yeah makes sense to do this

Alright well guess I gotta take my bubos out of lab and start levelling them

[glacial venture]

is the acc of your dk so bad?

[last pecan]

I was running DK as it is my OG main and heard it was the go to for world 4 prog

[glacial venture]

or why so many acc cards?

[last pecan]

Bad enough that I needed the cards to get the dmg bonus yeah

[elfin idol]

that waas right for w4

[last pecan]

Ok nice, was worth it then

I'll try and push the BBs to that 2nd last map of world 4

[bleak gust]

how many characters can i take out of divinity with only hare

[last pecan]

Thanks for all the advice 🙂

[glacial venture]

i really hope lava wont lower portal kills for w5 when w6 comes out

[dim wind]

Portals are easy, getting enough drops for everything you need is way bigger

[elfin idol]

If he fixes vman to not steal your best progress I hope he does lower lmao

[dim wind]

I’m on 450m stiltmole kills and still not done 🫣

[glacial venture]

i say that so that not so many just candy in w5 then^^

even tho they just need to get to moles now

[elfin idol]

800 more hampsters left 🤮

[glacial venture]

unless lava changes boss placement to wurms map

[dim wind]

Painful 😰

[fervent brook]

Got to level 10 snail 🐌

[dim wind]

What dr you average between accounts?

[elfin idol]

10 to 14

[dim wind]

I’m between 8 and 11, guess I’ll be here for another few weeks the

How many did you get for the vial? The 10k one?

[glacial venture]

try to fill family and pers with drop obols

[elfin idol]

No im farming for cap bags

[dim wind]

I’m skipping them on most accounts

By the time Im complete Lava will have better ones out

[elfin idol]

I figure everyne gets them then everyone can focus on thread in anvil

[dim wind]

Smart

[elfin idol]

Hammer hammer is hourly click so its gunna cap really quickly eventually

But i would be upset if youre right and W6 first bag is easy haha

[raw tundra]

which?

[fervent brook]

Finally all bubbles have been atomed.

[inland wadi]

Imo respawn rate, chests, %

[dim wind]

Respawn rate is good for afk rates

[sick sentinel]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[dim wind]

Lootpile second before xp%

[dim wind]

Point 4 is silly - every unlock requires an achievement which gives the points to unlock it, so you dont have to save up for it

[sick sentinel]

Tab 4 points and star talent arent good tho, better save for the boss armor

[elfin idol]

but the boss armor is locked behind the acheivement, which gives enough merit to unlock

[dim wind]

Cranking the Kruk gives 2 merit points per tier…

[sick sentinel]

You'll be sad if you cant buy the kruk armor when you do the achieve

[elfin idol]

The acheive gives 2 merit, the task costs 2 merit

[sick sentinel]

Ah didnt think of that

[dim wind]

Definitely focus on respawn and lootpile

[bleak gust]

well i meant for taking people out to go do class levels skills and cooking etc

[bleak gust]

especially mman skillage

and getting talent points

[fallow aurora]

how do I level up skilling cards fast?

my vman only gets 1 kraken card per like 20 hours

[twin token]

Vman+cdr+dr+skilling speed+afk gains

Those are all the bonuses to skilling cards

[fallow aurora]

I maxed the dr and cdr talent on vman

I have all dr/cdr cards

is afk gains better than cdr/dr for cards?

[twin token]

Depends how much dr and how much afk gains

But yeah generally afk gains are better

Skilling speed is rlly important too tho

Turn off automation arm and fill ur inv with 1 pearl and 1 hermit food then use a candy and refill every candy

[signal osprey]

Friendly reminder to start paying attention to the upcoming jewels/chips. Starting on November 1st theres a lot of very strong chips and a couple decent jewels too almost every single week through January. Start saving mats now if you arent confident you can farm them quickly

[fathom lagoon]

Chocolatey chip in December!

[signal osprey]

As well as 1 of every single doubler

[fathom lagoon]

Hell yea I don’t have any doublers or Choco

[violet iris]

what is the best way to eclipse w3, 4 and 5? BB or ES? Active or afk?

[sacred verge]

BB is not good

afks SB and ES works great

[median horizon]

Should i link snake or elephant for cooking?

[spice widget]

is it possible to get the flag cooldown to be lower than the duration?

[potent gust]

Oh hi

[mystic moth]

Be me still hunting magma gauntlets

[thorn marsh]

is there a max lvl for shinies?

[cunning vault]

As far as i know there is no max level, but IE has a default threshold of 5

[bleak gust]

what mats

[jade phoenix]

No it’s just 5 is default pal

[thorn marsh]

ah, so 5 is the "go do something else, you're wasting time" kinda threshold

gotcha

[untold lintel]

i think you just want 5 in everything, but you need 6 on one of the star sign shinies 🙂

[thorn marsh]

yeah, I'm pushing star signs above 5

[teal lynx]

Not that I know of. They just get increasingly more
5 is a solid ground to stop on for the beginning, therefore it is a default setting
If you wanna change it at some point u gotta click the cog at the top of Dashboard, open up breeding and change the number ^^

[untold lintel]

just need to do 1 of them to lvl 6

[muted slate]

idleon toolbox has the upcoming rotation with which mats are needed

[bleak gust]

where

[teal lynx]

Finally finished with Breeding

[signal osprey]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[paper sail]

also https://idleontoolbox.com/account/world-4/laboratory

[stoic silo]

what's the best map to farm exp with ES on w4?

[chrome tiger]

Flom

[stoic silo]

are their drops of any use or can I filter them?

[fallow aurora]

what class gets the most accuracy? need as much accuracy as I can for shimmer trials

[mystic moth]

Vman usually i think

[teal lynx]

Probably Archer. Shaquracy gets buffed while active and I believe they have a Talent to increase Acc

[signal osprey]

SB also has a % accuracy talent

[fallow aurora]

17 shimmers

its my 1st time going past 9 shimmers

18 now