lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[sacred verge]

did some

[paper sail]

You're claiming you have 5 slots filled but can't be bothered to reroll?

5 slots means account level 5k

[elfin idol]

Noo I say theres 5 slots

Not that I have them filled

[paper sail]

Skill issue I guess idk

[ember abyss]

I don’t understand how people are getting 200%+ afk. I think my highest is about 140.

[paper sail]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1144747572280438874

Here's a chart of every (best) source per activity. You can find what you're misisng.

[ember abyss]

I think I’m just not committed enough.

[paper sail]

Things take time.

[lavish cloak]

i have 8000 hours logged into idleon.

and i pay money to play this game

you have reasonable circumstances to be limited in this respect.

[manic prism]

Is there some sort of trick to VMan mob drop sampling? i see some people with insane numbers

[tacit tulip]

the multikill talent used during speedruns works when sampling within a run

combine that with the bonus for respawn speed on the boss talent

[manic prism]

You can sample within a speedrun?

[white carbon]

Aim is to kill Nightmare boss for first 3 worlds then take samples

[manic prism]

Thats an insanely high MK bonus lol, makes sense

[white carbon]

Can also cheese troll boss for an additional boss kill

[tacit tulip]

pretty sure the respawn only applies once per boss - so normal is enough for a sampling run

[manic prism]

i need to make my Vman stronger i dont usually make it that far

[white carbon]

True, normal is enough for sampling

[fervent brook]

Guess I should buy one silver stopwatch for the slab

[elfin idol]

Do people use these when sampling fish?

[white carbon]

You also run your standard stuff for sampling like afk gain etc

[manic prism]

Do you pop the AOE ability before hitting the sample button?

[green eagle]

this is my ladels now after finishing what i just did. it can be higher, but i'm happy with it too

show me the ways to get more than 22k/day i don't have the patience to do that everyday lmao

[white carbon]

Yes

[white carbon]

Or sample within the 20 seconds it is active - so potential to sample multiple mob drops if you are fast enough

[formal minnow]

Is Beans still the best map for non-dk crystal farming?

[green eagle]

don't forget to kill as many bosses as you can on the highest difficulty so you get extra respawn source to really BOOST those samples too

[manic prism]

I need to read up on a guide to find the most optimal way to approach this since my Vman isnt all that strong

[formal minnow]

I believe there's a speed run guide in tips and tricks

[green eagle]

there are pinned guides i believe

[fervent brook]

Wait do Boss kills increase respawn for enemies of other worlds?

[green eagle]

it adds respawn % in total

just read the talent

(i'm on my skilling load out, hence the 0 talent investment) also book it and the void radius talent as high as you can. i also was lazy there as i haven't done a speed run in forever

[nova plover]

is full drop rate obols meta for personal tabs as well as family tab?

[paper sail]

For active farming, yes

[white carbon]

You can also run a construction speed personal and family to snapshot if you are Mon maxing

[paper sail]

I'm curious why my cooking eff is so much higher I have 1 less CHOW than you do, I believe. I guess just stamps?

[potent maple]

something to do with your vman's cooking maybe?

[paper sail]

Vman's cooking is speed only, no difference to efficiency

[potent maple]

skilled dimwit?

[paper sail]

And they're a dirty dooter, so I assume also a dirty Rift Slug haver. I expec they have ~40 more talent points in Apoc.Chow than I do.

[dense prism]

i got 450 Battleaxe statue in 1.5h should i even bother for the 20k ? 10dr

[sacred verge]

thats not insanely bad

like 3-4 days of farming for all 3 statues

[elfin idol]

the divinity one took way longer than the other two for me

[dense prism]

hmm yeah i guess it will also give me a couple dk level

[tacit tulip]

they will do, they have lower drop rate 😛

[upbeat basin]

Best way to green stack without candy is ES yes?

Also are there sources of material stack size other than stamps?

[paper sail]

Vman can also sample monster materials within Void Runs very well 👌

[tacit tulip]

Prayers, starsigns are the primary methods

[paper sail]

(and the bag itself, I hope)

[tacit tulip]

Chest talent from w3...bags I guess too 😄

[upbeat basin]

Got all the bags.

Guess i'm missing that prayer

[tacit tulip]

the prayer is huge

[paper sail]

Ruck Sack is big carry cap at the cost of AFK. Opposite of Zerg Rush

[elfin idol]

Its just for helping with stamps though right?

[paper sail]

I always leave Ruck Sack on my active farmer 🤷

[tacit tulip]

you use it actively to grind too

to prevent inventory woes

[elfin idol]

i guess my multikill isnt high enough for woes hah

[tacit tulip]

even with that cap I turn off bean slices

[paper sail]

I let the Sand flow though

I think I may have hit my max on Drippy Drop stamp without using a ~~Boron ~~ Hydrogen stamp discount

1167m for the next, haha

Startue is 90% now too, but.. I still click it every once in a while 🤷

[barren otter]

keep going

[paper sail]

I can't without Hydrogen, and I'm prioritizing those rn 😦

[barren otter]

[paper sail]

I want that 210 multitool

[signal osprey]

[paper sail]

Looks like my current 80slot max on Vman is actually enough for another Drippy Drop stamp level

Last couple of rounds of Mason Jar must have pushed me over the edge

[signal osprey]

Can get that 250 crystallin too if you dont already have it

[barren otter]

i got my multi to 200 and havent even bothered to look to see how far i am from 210

[signal osprey]

I need to do some math on 220 multitool

I know its gonna be pretty insane but I want to know just how insane because I'm totally fine just catching on vman until W6

[barren otter]

yea im pretty far off

[paper sail]

It's like 418m or something?

[signal osprey]

416m iirc

[sick sentinel]

[paper sail]

Ah, yep, 416m

[barren otter]

woo went up 2m

[somber path]

Is that with the carry cap prayer and star signs?

[signal osprey]

The quest for 2b continues

[barren otter]

@signal osprey what catching lvl did you do your 210 at?

[signal osprey]

130 or 131 iirc

With 192 bug sack and 124 mason jar

[barren otter]

oh im just behind on jar and bugsack then

[signal osprey]

Yeah most people were closer to 140 catching when they did it

[paper sail]

176 bugsack / 116 mason, catching level 124. Still a little bit to go.

[signal osprey]

Because most people didnt do DK at pots for 124 mason jar lol

[paper sail]

I can't up bugsack anymore without hydrogen discounts either

[barren otter]

yea im 137 catching atm

but only 100 jar 184 bugsack

[signal osprey]

Yeah you get it just off of a few more jar levels

And then its time to push for 220

[barren otter]

time for me to go back to glass jail

[sick sentinel]

so far away

[paper sail]

[barren otter]

close but kinda not really

[paper sail]

3 and 8 finished up. 10s turn now

See you in 3-4 days

[heavy moth]

whats your GT ?

[signal osprey]

i'm starting to actually push my 5k now too

[heavy moth]

should probably try to hit that 10K before pushing my 5K

[signal osprey]

I'm going for 100x exp multi

Gonna take a bit

[heavy moth]

😮 how much is that

[signal osprey]

Depends on SB talent but probably like 25k GT or something

[heavy moth]

ohh really plunderous mob have that much of an insidence

[barren otter]

oh hey ive hit 20x DR in crystal cards

[glass meadow]

what kind of food setup do people aim for? Currently using this setup but I'm wondering if I should keep farming these or if maybe a different setup is better lategame?

[green eagle]

Yeah most likely stamp difference

[void hawk]

nice I don't have to worry about anvil anymore

[glass meadow]

won't you go way over speed cap?

[barren otter]

kinda depends on where your quick slap bubble is at

[glass meadow]

360% is max right?

[signal osprey]

Speed cap is just visual

You still get damage from speed past the cap

[glass meadow]

ah damage from bubble makes sense. Was thinking purely on walk speed.

[void hawk]

does this works like forge? Like it checks few times a day?

[signal osprey]

Thats only if you push the bubble though. If not you're probably better off with base damage pots

On non SB that is. SB still wants speed pots no matter what

[glass meadow]

currently damage wise it's better, I was mainly thinking about boost food and gold food setup. But atleast I know I'm farming the right gold food

[signal osprey]

Forge checks any time you claim afk gains and its empty. Anvil only checks on daily reset

[void hawk]

why are they not the same?

[muted slate]

working as intended :)

[tacit tulip]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[signal osprey]

Thats the way lava coded it 🤷‍♂️

[void hawk]

then it kinda makes it useless

[signal osprey]

Yeah its pretty bad

[tacit tulip]

it's better than nothing but not good, yeah

[void hawk]

inconsistency

[paper sail]

And that's only partially correct, from my understanding. Yes anvil triggers daily, but your production items aren't generated until you login anyway.

[buoyant heron]

i can't see the endgame chat anymore how do you get in?

[tacit tulip]

you have to get the role from the roles channel

[signal osprey]

Thats the way lava claims it works but I have my doubts

Rash was testing it recently and it still wasnt working properly even when he made sure to check everyone to generate resources before daily reset

[tacit tulip]

gimme a minute, I'm in a position to test

[barren otter]

my god if anvil auto arm claimed when full

that would be huge

[paper sail]

My point is you can't just afk for a week and expect 7 deposits

[buoyant heron]

weird i had already marked that before, so i unmarked and remarked it and its works now. Was the channel nuked and restarted?

I remeber thatm whole chat was clowning on lava after the companions lmao

[paper sail]

I just am in the habit of depositing asap when I claim afk gains now

[void hawk]

what does it mean?

[tacit tulip]

Currently, my nails look like this.

My BM has 18 hours AFK, and my daily reset was....7 hours ago

[tacit tulip]

ok what doesn't help is that IE doesn't track properly haha

[void hawk]

what are these?

[barren otter]

i had to make my own little calc to keep track of how long i have till cap...

[buoyant heron]

my toolbox tracks wrong in the other direction, says its full before it is, which is more useful tho maybe try using toolbox

[paper sail]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Laboratory

[potent maple]

the part about "+50% rememberance of the game Idle Skilling" means nothing, just Lava joke

[paper sail]

I just relegated everyone to last 3 anvil items, so they last days anyway before cap

[potent maple]

that works unless you need thread nails or bricks for stuff 😄

[tacit tulip]

doing nails vial so I don't have the pleasure

[paper sail]

Yep. The pleasure of being done with those things

[signal osprey]

I currently have everyone on 1x bricks and 2x chains. They produce in equal amounts that way and I click the mining/chopping exp bubbles lol

[void hawk]

wow never knew this

[paper sail]

Just never opened the w4 town shop?

[tacit tulip]

idleon players and not reading, name a better combo

[void hawk]

I just bought chips, but then again I don't know what they do either

[paper sail]

Lots of reading in store for you

[signal osprey]

Gaming and harvest all

[paper sail]

FMA and Mean Girl enthusiasts on October 3rd

[void hawk]

is there are way to restart it faster?

[signal osprey]

Even with chems

[tacit tulip]

don't forget

[paper sail]

and if you dare post the image with 3.Oct.11 we fightin

[tacit tulip]

the chip shop? Nope, it's on a global timer - all players have the same shop here

[void hawk]

wait so someone can steal chips from me?

[tacit tulip]

no they just share the same rotation

[void hawk]

but that means if you buy it

I'm done

[paper sail]

Everyone gets their own copies to buy lol

[tacit tulip]

ok I'm out, too ill for this 😄

[void hawk]

oh that's a relief

[paper sail]

What is offered in the shop each week is the same selection on the same schedule

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ohtWMLT4NzBuVyqcXoEvkCMPXuYGWrRWUAmBOTdZCrQ/edit#gid=1945859978

[tacit tulip]

Might be a good time to give them the lab rot- that

you can plan ahead and prep for when the chips/jewels come into rotation

as some of them are expensive for you at this point and might need working towards

[barren otter]

ye "work" towards the expensive ones by buying it with gems

[tacit tulip]

for gems definitely

I've never bought a chip tho

[barren otter]

like the current jewel

[paper sail]

Jewels

[barren otter]

even if i wanted to get 10k of those spices

lmao

not doing that

[tacit tulip]

jewels are a type of gem

sulks

[paper sail]

K but we have another thing called Gems

and this is a discussion explaining to someone who doesn't even have the shop unlocked

[tacit tulip]

this is like when I got told off for calling cooking plates "food" which is valid but mean

[paper sail]

meals

[frail schooner]

nutrition disks

[barren otter]

foods are meals yes

[paper sail]

I wouldn't give you shit for that one, but you basically said "buy expensive gems with gems" and

[barren otter]

[tacit tulip]

if I could do that I'd have doot by now

[barren otter]

turns out they were all gems after all

[frail schooner]

the real gems are the friends we mad along the way

[potent maple]

it was still funny when you said "mad" hehe

[frail schooner]

there you go

[paper sail]

Gems is Gems
https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-20591327

[umbral tapir]

Going back and doing old quests. Anyone else experiencing an issue where Goldric's trickle down economics quests spawns blue coins instead of a single copper?

[true obsidian]

[paper sail]

#bug-reports-🐛 message

Several bug reports. His coin is increased by your money multi

Not sure of any workarounds. Birthday Card probably doesn't work

[potent maple]

there is an item you can only get while on a goldric quest i think!

grab it for the slab! i didn't know about it and all of my characters did that quest already, so it just sits there in my list of missing items, mocking me

[granite wraith]

Which characters should i link to the 2nd god? all the ones that are currently on Div?

[potent maple]

all your dudes should be on divinity and yeah arctis is good

at least to unlock the first several gods, then you can go back to what you were doing 🙂

[umbral tapir]

Turns out, using candies spawns the copper coin. But only let's you run over twice before it goes back to being multiplied. Had to use 8 candies but I got it.

[potent maple]

clever beaver

[paper sail]

Hm. If candy works, then maybe the birthday card could would work too 🤔

[proven basin]

does afk gains effect divinity gains?

[queen raft]

Guys, what is better, random event island or giant crystal mobs?

[fading cape]

Crystal mobs

I got rando island second and highly regret.

so...so many candy later...

[green eagle]

now time to do w2-5!

[fading cape]

down to just 1 and 2 hour candies. Lots of clicking. haha

[proven basin]

does linking to nobi increase zow/chow farming gains?

[cerulean hemlock]

👍

[green eagle]

[knotty urchin]

W/ cauldron boosts, how should you balance them out vs. unlocking new bubbles?

[dapper prism]

screenshot toolbox a lot nicer xD

[green eagle]

but then i'd have to open toolbox page 😦 lmao

and looking at it it looks relatively the same tbh

[lavish cloak]

so my daily reset just went 4 hours forward today.

[dapper prism]

Idk i find 1 screenshot all nice side by side is a lot nicer like this:
https://i.imgur.com/HLVUKuJ.png

[green eagle]

for me it doesn't look like that

[lavish cloak]

idleon toolbox puts it roughly like that

[green eagle]

the screen i have on this pc is different than my pc at home

toolbox can't fit them like that

[dapper prism]

could try ctrl scrollback to make it smaller and fit 😄

https://tenor.com/view/ken-jeong-community-too-small-to-read-read-reading-gif-5494204

[green eagle]

here is your tiny screenshot @dapper prism had to scroll to 50% to fit on this pc

[dapper prism]

Looks perfect ❤️

The only thing not perfect are those gmush kills 😦

[green eagle]

ye, i haven't gmushed in a looooong time

i know it's bad

i've been too focused on eclipsing and other tasks

[dapper prism]

but.. free monies 👀

[green eagle]

if you want an indication of how long it's been since i gmushed, i'm fairly certain i just had the eclipse skull when he came out with those on gmush and nothing else

[signal osprey]

Monies

[dapper prism]

many monies, very good, much wow

[cerulean hemlock]

Got any ideas how to improve DR w/out cards?

[lavish cloak]

chonky

[cerulean hemlock]

We kill green mush for little profit

very little profit

[dapper prism]

little? it gets really nice

[cerulean hemlock]

I don't even have Auto Loot

[cerulean hemlock]

It was sarcasm 😛

[signal osprey]

Very little profit

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep!

I don't active either.

[dapper prism]

oh okay, was about to say i got 200k+ blue coins within 5 days kinda thing, and still need more gmush >:)

cant filter coins

[cerulean hemlock]

Yeah XD

[dapper prism]

whats your gmush at ? 😄

[cerulean hemlock]

I know I am, but that's just how I roll

AND i use web, not steam.

[dapper prism]

AAA is playing IDLEoff(line) while we are playing IDLEon(line)

[cerulean hemlock]

*AAAAAA

And yes, I am! 😄

Got a 7% increase on damage today

Stamps and vials! got it 👍

Which vial gives DR?

[signal osprey]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1141880730411094106

This is pretty up to date and should have like every single DR bonus

[hybrid spindle]

can you directly go back from islands to the 3rd fishing area?

[cerulean hemlock]

Ok, no vials

[dapper prism]

Nope, cause terrible design

[cerulean hemlock]

You can't go back. ever.

[hybrid spindle]

so how are you supposed to do it then? 👀

[signal osprey]

Smithing is getting a little slow

[cerulean hemlock]

*rushed

[cerulean hemlock]

You teleport out

[dapper prism]

Nawh, terrible.. would take 2 minutes to implement an extra button that tp's you back there, he already had the framework for the rest of the stuff

[cerulean hemlock]

Surely I must be lucky this time

[hybrid spindle]

ahhhhh so that's why i took a break for a year. So I could accumulate 1000 teleports and can comfortably jump between islands!

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep! 😄

[dapper prism]

or just make sure every alt has a few of these 😄
https://i.imgur.com/ydRv3Uf.png

[cerulean hemlock]

High quality loot indeed

[dapper prism]

Used a key to get a key and a gem, op

[hybrid spindle]

I only know these 😛

[cerulean hemlock]

Tbf you don't even have eyes

[fallow aurora]

I saw someone say multikill increases card drop is it true?

[dapper prism]

Go afk for a little longer, gotta cap them, tzzz
https://i.imgur.com/J59RCf3.png

[hybrid spindle]

i was busy sampling shit and trying this speedrun thing from voidiwhatever

i had it capped, just used a lot

[cerulean hemlock]

Damage went up by yet another 19 million today

#Lava fell asleep on keyboard

[hybrid spindle]

that's a pretty concise message for facepalming your keyboard

[fallow aurora]

how tf do i have more damage, I literally have 3k less WIS

[cerulean hemlock]

Ikr, very small face Lava's got there

[cerulean hemlock]

I don't active.

[hybrid spindle]

because there are like a thousand damage sources nowadays

[cerulean hemlock]

Is that your main?

[dapper prism]

No chizoar armor hurts my eyes

[hybrid spindle]

what am I supposed to say? ^^

[cerulean hemlock]

Mine too, but I'll ignore it

[cerulean hemlock]

You're supposed to say, Review my IE so AAAAAA feels better

[hybrid spindle]

you didn't see that

[dapper prism]

We all did. that was painful

[hybrid spindle]

but in my defense, people usually don't talk of themselves in 3rd person

that aside, how would me wanting you to look at my IE make you feel better? 👀

[cerulean hemlock]

True 😄

[cerulean hemlock]

You haven't seen me toast over 50 IE's.

I toast them to a crisp

Oh and I have a point method:

Sins and positives

[hybrid spindle]

color me intrigued

[cerulean hemlock]

Go ask the Bandit Bob's in Gen chat

Or search IE from:AAAAAA

[hybrid spindle]

I'd like to participate

what do you need?

[cerulean hemlock]

The public profile link 😛

[hybrid spindle]

where do i find that?

[dapper prism]

I used to do a lot of in detail IE reviews, now barely bothered when you open it and you see that the person posting their IE didn't even do the bare minimum of anything..
99% of the time

• Keys unclaimed, bosses stacked, books stacked, anvil full, forge empty. No 3D prints on half their alts.

[hybrid spindle]

https://shadowtraton.idleonefficiency.com/

[lavish cloak]

hrmm...i don't think i've killed kattlekruk on any difficulty other than nightmare

[hybrid spindle]

figured it out already

[pearl cedar]

How to get this low dmg?

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep! 😄

[cerulean hemlock]

By using no auto loot or doing active.

[hybrid spindle]

alright, i have bosses stacked, and book stackd, but at least not the rest ^^

[cerulean hemlock]

@hybrid spindle Unlock stamps

[pearl cedar]

Interesting approach

[cerulean hemlock]

That's..... 4 sins.

This isn't too trash @hybrid spindle

Noob. 😄

[hybrid spindle]

in my like 10k pachinko balls I have yet to get that bastard

[cerulean hemlock]

I'm presuming you've collected?

[hybrid spindle]

no, they will lie like that today

I just switched them yesterday to 20h traps

[cerulean hemlock]

You could level them up with a single ladle.

[hybrid spindle]

I'll leave them to automatically collect tomorrow

[cerulean hemlock]

One sin for one empty slot

+2 positives for good lab and worship

[hybrid spindle]

anyone keeping count of the points? because I lost track

[cerulean hemlock]

three here

[cerulean hemlock]

19 sins, 2 positives

[hybrid spindle]

impressive

[cerulean hemlock]

The HS you (don't want to beat)need to be is 82sins

[hybrid spindle]

HS?

[cerulean hemlock]

High score.

[hybrid spindle]

I don't think even 12 months got me there ^^

[cerulean hemlock]

What's wrong in this picture?

[hybrid spindle]

But hopefully you'll prove otherwise

[cerulean hemlock]

Nope, 1 year account in W5 early

Do you see FOUR mongo slices? If you do, restock.

I expected better coming from someone who has 10x more damage.

And why sesame seed?

[hybrid spindle]

because I have no idea what they were for

so instead of throwing them away i kept them

[cerulean hemlock]

Bandit Bob's quest a long time ago

1 in 100 chance from mimics

[fading cape]

I keep my sesame seed. Gonna green stack one day

[cerulean hemlock]

Good luck!

[hybrid spindle]

do they still drop?

[cerulean hemlock]

If quest active or complete I think yes

These salts too

[fading cape]

They still drop on my ES, and I'm done the quest.

[cerulean hemlock]

Some are in poverty yknow

[hybrid spindle]

I know

happens if you let your refinery run for 12 months

[fading cape]

oof

[cerulean hemlock]

Look: I know we all love neglect and all, but give him a chestplate and shoes to wear.

[hybrid spindle]

and then spend the 15k black salt on accident because you think you have more than enough

[hybrid spindle]

NO SALT! ^^

[cerulean hemlock]

Give him something :p

[fading cape]

any base stats better than none

[cerulean hemlock]

Kaidras too

[hybrid spindle]

what's the point of giving him garbage if i can just give him the leftovers once I got new black salt and crafted gear

[cerulean hemlock]

Give him amarok armor. it's the chewed up spit of W4 pushers

[pale jay]

Garbage OP compared to nothing

[cerulean hemlock]

Dude has no shoes

[hybrid spindle]

Now to be fair, he's kind of an exibitionist though, so I don't think he wants any clothes

[cerulean hemlock]

I'll ignore that for shadow

[hybrid spindle]

i just stole them to craft the better fishing boots hahhahahah

[cerulean hemlock]

Besides this.

[fallow aurora]

does multikill help with cards?

[hybrid spindle]

that's in preparation for leaving for another year 🙂

[cerulean hemlock]

No cap bags I guess

[hybrid spindle]

nah. I stopped just when w5 came out so bags still cost salts at that point, which i didnt want to waste

[cerulean hemlock]

Annnnd THIS is why you don't have 100k prints

[hybrid spindle]

i'll catch up on that when necessary now

[cerulean hemlock]

Trash bag better than no bag

[hybrid spindle]

"THIS" being what exactly?

[cerulean hemlock]

This is the first dude we talked about with no armor

Or freedom, apparently. But that's normal.

[hybrid spindle]

what does his armor have to do with the sampling?

[cerulean hemlock]

Smol stats = slightly better prints

[hybrid spindle]

slightly is not worth it. the daily bonus is already better than a 1% increase from amarok armor

and it might even be 0% when i can't get to another threshold

[cerulean hemlock]

Fine then 😄

Final score: 33 sins, 2 positives

Not bad honestly

[fading cape]

it's an idle incremental game.

Everything is slightly piled on slightly

[hybrid spindle]

that's it already 👀

[hybrid spindle]

that is true. but when shit is too bothersome, then I won't ^^ Best example for that are obols. I just farmed entire sets just to figure out that the effect of trapping obosl sucks

and the construction ones are uslesss unless you snapshot it

[tall dirge]

how can i come about information for the w2 daily boss, as in optimal route for throwpys

[hybrid spindle]

they had very little effect on mine

[fading cape]

yeah trapping obols should be adding 50% total when fully filled and with bonus dex.

The hex ones alone should be adding 20% just with a full set

[signal osprey]

Trapping obols arent a huge bonus but theyre still the best bonus you can get for trapping from obols 🤷‍♂️

[fading cape]

I mean, or maybe they did when I was very low and new bonuses do or don't matter. I honestly don't know anymore. So many different tab 4 skills up different things based on based stats and other stuff, that it's impossible now to know what adds what impact

[hybrid spindle]

neeeeed more automation! why not use obols the way cards are supposed to work -> a set for every action. the constant switcheroo drives me crazy

it's almost as bad as cog pulling

[fading cape]

I just switch obols on the family set and leave non-farmers on base stat round obols. That way if I'm sampling wood on everyone I can just put chopping obols on family and not have to change it three times

[hybrid spindle]

WOW that's smart

[cerulean hemlock]

I love how I'm saying nothing

[hybrid spindle]

I never even considered that

[tall dirge]

how can i come about information for the w2 daily boss, as in optimal route for throwpys

[hybrid spindle]

but if you have your farmers on base stats, where exactly do you store all your skilling obols?

[fading cape]

I haven't seen any guides about it yet. Maybe youtube streamers?

[hybrid spindle]

#1084911530417606656

no wait

that was the weekly one

[tall dirge]

I mean it changes every day and is the same for everyone right?

[fading cape]

I had to buy space.

[glad ibex]

Tips n tricks has the optimal order

If you can't kill just need to increase level on skills

[hybrid spindle]

i have a lot of space except the last one and it would not even be close to enough

[glad ibex]

Same options every week

[cerulean hemlock]

Pew pew is actually fun!

[hybrid spindle]

every set would have 12 round obols

[fading cape]

I don't have any space for round ones or sparkles. They're all full up. I have all round obols filtered off from dropping.

[hybrid spindle]

considering there are 6 skills you would use like that, that makes 72 obosl

I don't think there is space for that many, is there?

[fading cape]

and the catching ones are all on my worst SB.

I only have fishing, mining, and chopping round obols in storage. And it takes up all but like 1 row to 12 of each

[hybrid spindle]

do you have full square, hex, and sparkle skilling obols for every skill?

[fading cape]

*16 of each

[signal osprey]

There should only be 4 skills. Just keep your worship and trapping sets on a wizard and BM. No reason you should ever want to swap those to multiple characters anyway

[hybrid spindle]

why 16?

[hybrid spindle]

fair point

[fading cape]

bad math. it's 12. 4 little triangles of three

[hybrid spindle]

still. 4 makes 48. that's a lot of storage

[cerulean hemlock]

I'm lagging. uh oh.

[fading cape]

not good. you're barely even half way. haha

[cerulean hemlock]

I need 50 more rounds

[hybrid spindle]

one great thing about not playing for a long time are the eggs 🙂 I had like 10 green ones and 3 red ^^ Easy 90k pets and a first try 200 arena

[pastel bramble]

the tier 7 grind starts

[cerulean hemlock]

Uh oh: one down

[fading cape]

long past needing it. haha

[pastel bramble]

ele god active since release of course 😄

[cerulean hemlock]

Ooooooooooh no.

[fading cape]

I haven't used Omniphaunt, and it took me FOREVER to get Chemical plants. And I just bought 400 red today. Red is pretty easy. Especially once you get snail

[cerulean hemlock]

WE WOO WE WOO WE WOO

[hybrid spindle]

I'm quite puzzled too. My improvements from gaming alone are absolutely negligible

[fading cape]

GG

[pine yacht]

at what point is kattle armor better than magma ?

[pastel bramble]

omni one, that gives u passive time in gaming for afk gains

[fading cape]

I use the respawn ones on my BB, and the drop rate ones on my ES and DK. But no one is in all 4 items

[pine yacht]

ye figgured something like that might be the most optimal

[pastel bramble]

https://gyazo.com/cbb0e8d0e5b239f1eea8b9dc3948afc4

[cerulean hemlock]

I'm alive. Idk how, but I'm alive

[pastel bramble]

u dont get these nuts without omni for almost a year

[hybrid spindle]

only 18 ranks to go. I'll be right back

[fading cape]

you have 101k coffee right? that may be enough to do it even if coffee dies

[pastel bramble]

like 2 days more till im rank 30 then i finally get a shell colour upgrade

[cerulean hemlock]

Maybe

[hybrid spindle]

no. don't do it

leave me alone

[pastel bramble]

u can get them fairly easily if u stack egg quality to gold+ and use hunters abilities for egg hatching

[cerulean hemlock]

Looter was like 50% of my damage

[hybrid spindle]

was as in you're dead?

[fading cape]

No looter died

[pastel bramble]

he has his defender in wrong spot

should be where the stick is

[cerulean hemlock]

Egg shell is dying

[fading cape]

Looter can get those triple nuke drops from time to time. Basically free stage

[cerulean hemlock]

Nah it isn't 😛

[pastel bramble]

it is lol

shield travel time to defend ur looter was too long

[cerulean hemlock]

I've tried it with that strat.

[cerulean hemlock]

Looter had alch though

[pastel bramble]

yh we'll see if u make it then 😛

[cerulean hemlock]

Round 180 is what I'm hoping for

[pastel bramble]

round 200 or bust

[hybrid spindle]

can you even fail anymore?

[pastel bramble]

he can

[hidden osprey]

is there a reason why is my no bubble left behind not leveling my diamond chef?

[hybrid spindle]

how?

[fading cape]

bad luck.

[pastel bramble]

shield is only % chance to block not guranteed

[hybrid spindle]

nothing to take away his shields? his looter is dead

yes but that's like miniscule considering the amount stacked on top of each other

[cerulean hemlock]

Me going to pray

[dreamy rapids]

Read what NBLB does

[pastel bramble]

it can still happen its happened to me before on wurm fight 😄

[cerulean hemlock]

EGG SHELL IS GONE

[steady beacon]

Are there any scenarios in the later game where you take everyone out of lab? (Doot owners, hush you). Eg to farm a specific drop like hamters or pearls?

[hidden osprey]

yeah my diamond chef is one of the lowest levels of my bubbles and is 5+

[hybrid spindle]

yeah but wurm is an asshole...i don't even know how many times i tried that shit

[tropic kiln]

First 15 bubbles

Diamond chef isnt in the first 15

[hidden osprey]

oh

my bad

[sick sentinel]

Atom collider can make it rng hit higher bubbles

[steady beacon]

And if yes, do you put everyone on arctic to benefit from lab anyways? Or just skip all the bonii?

[cerulean hemlock]

I do goat

[tropic kiln]

There is an upgrafe that makes it hit all bubbles tho

[pastel bramble]

anything no bubble left behind related is worth focusing imo the returns are great 😄

[cerulean hemlock]

How long should this take?

[steady beacon]

But goat does nothing if you're out of the lab.

[pastel bramble]

theres no right answer, either it works or doesnt work lol its just a matter of patience

go make urself a drink and stretch ur legs 😄

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep 😄

[cerulean hemlock]

Arnold Palmer 😎

[pastel bramble]

ur prob gonna be stuck there for 20-30min till wave 200 id guess

[dapper prism]

probably an hour+ depending on your lags

[fading cape]

The first time I did it I did the math, and from 190-200 each wave takes about 60% longer than the one before it. So. It can take a long time

[cerulean hemlock]

Lag's gone

[pastel bramble]

did u turn off ur kitchens before u started it

[cerulean hemlock]

Fifteen

[cerulean hemlock]

Didn't expect to make it this far

[weary scarab]

I just went from 164 nug to 1446

[cerulean hemlock]

Now get 100x that.

[weary scarab]

We're trying

But baby steps

[cerulean hemlock]

👍

Ding!

[dreamy rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/drifter-destiny2-ding-tag-flick-gif-16330328

[pine yacht]

anyone have garbage purchase order ?

[pine yacht]

just dont do the same thing I did and exit accidently at 198

[dapper prism]

When 200, wait till IE shows you're actually 200

[cerulean hemlock]

Six rounds....

[cerulean hemlock]

Like defeat round 200?

[pine yacht]

or that

[dapper prism]

even then, just stay in arena and make sure IE shows 200

[pine yacht]

you dont actually have to defeat it, just wait till it updates, best way to check it is via IE

[old coyote]

is it worth grinding my character levels if i dont need to for gear yet or nah

[dapper prism]

Good for some talent points, but also situational where/how far you are etc.

[pine yacht]

you mostly lvl up if you have nothing better to do

[fading cape]

Unless you have some huge desire for talent points you're better off with workig on alchemy and stamp gains than working on character level.

[old coyote]

should i be focusing on alchemy instead of gear generally?

[dapper prism]

Always alchemy

[knotty urchin]

when should I try and get vman?

like what is a good point

[dapper prism]

Gear helps, but alchemy is best
https://i.imgur.com/P6ZA7yB.png

[old coyote]

and is there a guide on what bubbles I should focus

or do i just need to watch all the griffybit tier lists

[knotty urchin]

yes griffy bit made awesome vidoes on it

[uncut bear]

What was Meta on full krattle Set? ES and SB?

[dapper prism]

Dont think anyone wears full kattle unless not min maxing

Magma better for sample.
Kattle top+legs with Magma head+feet better for the afk gain.
Kattle head+feet with Magma top+legs better for active DR/dmg

E.g. Active ES for drops head/feet with magma top/legs but afk ES for Kills it's the opposite.

[uncut bear]

Okay

[knotty urchin]

is active es good to catch up on lab/stamps while all others chars are in divinity? I wanted to push w bubo but I kinda like the lab boost..

I mean alchemy boost

[jagged relic]

Whats this week's boss attack decisions?

[fading cape]

I did, because I just like ES personally. However a lot of people will say focusing too hard on ES is a trap and long term you're just better off spending that energy using DK instead.

[knotty urchin]

ahh fr? my dk is higher levelled than my es rn but I genuinely thought es was better

[pallid monolith]

Has anyone beat nightmare kattlekruk with their vman?

[old coyote]

pinned

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/b02754b72d9f755d619f8c34945e94a0.png

are you proud of me dad

[wind trellis]

aren't poop tools / random event tools better for classes that don't do mining/chopping?

[fading cape]

I'm more just afraid that kattle kruk armor isn't the next evo path for W6 armor. That it's an offshoot like chizoar or amarok.

[untold saffron]

by that point making more magma sets will be ez though

[fading cape]

for stats and if you aren't levelling that character's skill yeah. But once you can get void it's better than those for stat stones

[old coyote]

wait i thought poop tools had the most stat stone capacity

[wind trellis]

5 vs 6

[fading cape]

they do. By 1. But at void the base stats on the eq is worth more.

[potent maple]

they have 6, you can craft 6-slot dreadlos on good rolls

[old coyote]

ohhh i see

[wind trellis]

1 more stone on poop vs some defense / non-main stats on dread

well if you get 6 slot dread then yeah I guess it's good

[wind trellis]

but this still wins for bubo/es

(I have none)

[untold saffron]

I'm not built for this level of min-max, the damage loss on a maxed 5 dreadlo vs poop is so minimal anyway

[wind trellis]

I'm stuck on luciferian skulls so I can't talk about that, I'm wondering why dreadlo tools on all

[potent maple]

i'm going through upgrading everyone to dread tools and i dunno the actual rate for gettinga 6 slot, but i seemed to get 1-2 per tool type

[untold saffron]

just in case its needed for a future better upgrade

poop tools are a dead end

[primal bison]

When’s world 9 dropping??

[wind trellis]

hm true

[fading cape]

cause I can. lol.

[potent maple]

i get frustrated when i tryhard and min/max, so instead i just do my best and focus on something that amuses me, then go on to the next thing that amuses me

[fading cape]

July 14th, 2027

[potent maple]

so i decided i was done having characters with like 11 catching skill, decided to get everyones skill lvl up to at least be able to equip the max tool shrug

[quiet pewter]

the game can quickly become borderline a chore to play already, min-max just saps the fun ( i know some like optimal and i aint knocking that.)

[potent maple]

it wasn't about 'skilling up to dreadlo lvl' but more about 'what is a reasonable goal to get everyone skilled up to' and that was my answer

[shy flame]

is there a strategy for just getting a ton of orb/wormhole/plunderous kills

[primal bison]

Marked my Calendar… I’m ready 😈‼️

[potent maple]

yeah, just active that character for a while

[quiet pewter]

plunderous, no. the other ones, just active it a while

[shy flame]

no preferred maps just go wherever and leave computer on

[potent maple]

orb would be good with a map where you get high kills per hour

[quiet pewter]

technically map matters a bit, but way better jsut to do something useful and let portals/orbs happen as a side effect

for example go green stack your mats, youll get some portals on your ES from that

and go statue farm your DK

[shy flame]

I have to statue farm on my ES

[quiet pewter]

w3?

[shy flame]

I thought DK was perferred for when you have choccy chip

[quiet pewter]

dk for cyrstal stuff, so pens and statues

[potent maple]

if you're at pens for statues, you wanna use ES

[quiet pewter]

es statues farming is only for w3 where normal mobs drop statues

[potent maple]

cuz those statues drop from the penguines not the crystals

[shy flame]

but is farming crystals still viable on DK without choccy?

[quiet pewter]

*silver pens and statues, not penguins

[quiet pewter]

i would think its still faster than ES, but have not tried

you could just test it on each for 10 min and youll know

[potent maple]

not sure, i had choccy before ES came out

[quiet pewter]

if you have the card doublers it helps DK a lot (for crystal% )

[fading cape]

DK is a stronger farmer of crystal items because of the way the drop rate checks for the blue bags. Each one gets an independent drop. So ES having a flat drop rate isn't as good as the DK orb getting such a ridiculously high drop rate multiplier on the blue bags

[quiet pewter]

true, but 3-4 times worse without chocochip, so probably worth checking against ES

[potent maple]

you can borrow one of my chocos for a bit if you want!

[safe harness]

is there a secret way to clear troll boss quickly or is it always slow?

[potent maple]

one-shot it

[quiet pewter]

on the subject of trading stuff, didnt we need a new premium currency in the game so that trading could be secure? lucky we got that second premium currency for all that trading

[safe harness]

i can one shot, just hoping there is a hidden way to bypass first mechanic

[quiet pewter]

i think he gives up on that after x kills

[potent maple]

i dont even get it, if you have a shitload of gems that you don't need, it's probably because you have a doot, so there's nothing you'll WANT to trade for, and same thing from the other point of view as well

[safe harness]

thanks, ill kill a few more times...might have to do the task for 20 tasks first

[potent maple]

if you have extra doots, you probably have no interest in more green gems

[quiet pewter]

i mean we dont seem to be getting trading anyway, so i think it was just an excuse for a new currency

[potent maple]

"eventually"

that spot where island expeditions are now had a placeholder for years, maybe even before w3 came out, and eventually we have rando island now. WORTH THE WAIT!

[fierce meadow]

anyone know when World 6 start?

and when can we choose the new classes

[quiet pewter]

a tuesday

[potent maple]

not coming soon enough for anyone to predict

[untold saffron]

i'm guessing january at the earliest

[fierce meadow]

not bad, thanks

[zealous niche]

Our best sources indicate world 6 is

[tacit tulip]

there was a 8 month gap between w4 and w5, but we're 10 months since the release of w5. 6 will be out when it's ready

[potent maple]

*before it's totally ready

[vestal delta]

tasty resample day

[tacit tulip]

it's my personal believe that this means w6 is out in just under 2 weeks

Obviously that won't happen, but it's funny to consider

[green glacier]

Holy cow, that's some tasty atoms

[untold saffron]

if he can wait until I'm back from florida that'd be great

[paper sail]

I'm holding off resampling... just in case

[untold saffron]

same

[paper sail]

I've got ~2 days to finish my last skilling card I can complete in any quick amount of time. Probably 4-5 days to finish the last of my W5 eclipse skulls. Maybe 2-3 weeks to unlock my 5k obol slot.

If I finish allll of those, I'll resample.

I try 😊

[swift heath]

where can i find the list of the chips and there appereance date?

[worldly bane]

if you're gem farming normal bosses does drop rate matter?

think it might be purely based on the merit but not sure

[paper sail]

pins in #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 , back in dec 2022

[bright current]

Idk i thought mine was p good

[vale wadi]

is it best to just wait for 5th evolve at gaming or be active at it?

[merry pulsar]

man are these drop chance obols even worth it...so over farming them

[upbeat basin]

Pop?

[merry pulsar]

dices

[upbeat basin]

Well yeah i'd say so.

[heady torrent]

If you havent yet gotten it, then do your farming at pincermins for the splicer recipe

[merry pulsar]

yea i been had that ty tho

[pearl cedar]

Guess no chocco chip?

[merry pulsar]

that too its just farming them all for all my chars lol

[prisma furnace]

is it worth making a obol set for worship?

or just slab

[merry pulsar]

i feel like worship is doable with good towers why would you

[pearl cedar]

Just slab, souls are mainly from food boost and vman talent. More eff doesnt help much

[prisma furnace]

Ty, just wanted to make sure before I deleted them 😛

[patent hatch]

FUTURE CONTENT BLOG

[prisma furnace]

waduhek

[merry pulsar]

i am happy hes taking so long with w6, i actually had time to get most of my chars end armor and weapons this time around

[prisma furnace]

What about the multikill obols, are they base or per tier?

[pearl cedar]

Base they're not good

[prisma furnace]

Alright, just slabbing that aswell then

[merry pulsar]

drop chance obols, skilling, construction if active

no other obols really matter

[pearl cedar]

Skilling no need to go past square except for slab

[prisma furnace]

Yeah I got my drop chance stuff, and slowly working towards sets of skilling and construction. Just double checking before I delete a lot of obols basically

Been slabbing them over the last weeks

[orchid ravine]

How to get ez accses

[merry pulsar]

achievements

[cerulean hemlock]

Remember me doing this? I'm finally done with it

[prisma furnace]

Feels good doesn't it? :p

[cerulean hemlock]

It took only half an hour!

And that's a.... 11% damage increase(combined with other things that I did) from yesterday!

[patent hatch]

I remember doing that before auto use abilities or high performance

3 hours of spamming

Worst thing in this game by a mile

[eternal dove]

I need lava to post this next update so I can go redo all my td

[cerulean hemlock]

Yeah that'd kill me

[hybrid spindle]

give it another year and td will catch up because we'll be stuck in one single one for 24h+

pet battles and tds should be hardcapped way earlier to prevent the shitshow they turn in

[mighty shuttle]

Scaling buffs

[teal lynx]

I belive TD straight up stops if you are stuck in one wave for 2-3 hours
So hopefully 24+ hour runs ain't happening

[tall horizon]

new waves auto spawn after a time period ya

little over 3 hours I think

[teal lynx]

Oh it ain't stopping but just keeps going. Good to know ^^

[sudden badger]

does anyone have the merit board perk tier list?

[tall horizon]

#bot-commands !Merit1-5

[gaunt shale]

can someone tell me why tf my damage is going lower when using rift wings ??? first day playing on mobile today, is there like a visual bug on mobile or

[small lantern]

Do Biggie, Doot, Yaga, etc count for Vman's Bossing Vain during a speedrun?

[small lantern]

it looks like you go up a tier?

[gaunt shale]

nope dmg goes down, from 13.2T max without too 4.4T with

[tall horizon]

Try a map reload

[small lantern]

Ah I mixed up the one with wings and without cuz I'm blind

[gaunt shale]

wanted to plant him at spores, at spores the dmg is still bugged, when I go to beans it shows correct dmg of 14T

this game sometimws

[sudden badger]

!merit 5

!merit5

[tall horizon]

#bot-commands for personal use

[sudden badger]

oh, my b

[gray pagoda]

So uh... What's going on with the gem contest?

[cerulean hemlock]

Lava is lava ig

[gray pagoda]

Is he Lavin it?

[opaque sun]

if in mobile, maybe some stat has overflown from 2.1b to a negative or something

lava did fix overflow for some, but not all

[gaunt shale]

it works on some maps and on some it doesnt, so prop yeh, weird af tbh

[sonic ferry]

Do you just get green bits from gaming after x amount of white ones?

[opaque sun]

Probably accuracy overflown on town (and weaker maps) and disabling your refinery damage talent

i have heard accuracy still overflows on mobile

on weaker maps, your accuracy is much higher in relative to the enemy’s acc requirement

[gaunt shale]

that prop really is the reason

[dapper prism]

Correct
https://i.imgur.com/yDIFF9g.png Bits change/color

[frigid patrol]

In world five with 1st divinity, all my chars have amorak/ plat or dementia armor, what armor should I get them all?

[dapper prism]

Slowly over time Chizoar as you're timegated on salts to get troll.
Main thing will be Troll -> Magma -> situational pieces of kattle(divine)

[frigid patrol]

Alright and how many chars should I have on divinity, I had most on to get that first one

[dapper prism]

All, except 1 if you are able to active on that one and do something beneficial.

[frigid patrol]

Alright Preciate it

[dapper prism]

It's the ideal time to backtrack and do stuff like this to name a few:
https://imgur.com/c1RhPXA

More info in the pins

[gray pagoda]

What shiny pets boost shiny pet level up rate besides spore?

[dapper prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1099088196027027606/1099088196291264623/ShinyPetEffect.png

[fallow aurora]

should I save starfire bars for troll chestpiece or upgrade to diabolical weapon?

[gray pagoda]

Thank you. I looked in pins but couldn't find it lol.

[fast grail]

Depends on what you are limited by, willpower for 2 min claims or starfire ore

[fallow aurora]

10m starfire ore and i'm willing to do whatever it takes

[fast grail]

Probably weapon tho, all diabolical weapons give respawn

[fallow aurora]

if thats the case, I already have enough bars

[dapper prism]

You can also toss your archers to gmush (with the forge bar talent) and do 2min claims for a while to massproduce some

[fast grail]

Yeah, and 10m ore is like 20k bars before any multi bar multipliers

[hidden osprey]

the cabbage cooking speed bonus means kitchen upgrades or meals upgrades?

[quiet pewter]

yes

[fallow aurora]

kitchen

[hidden osprey]

ok

[sweet mountain]

Quick question. If I have statues in my inventory on a locked slot, if any character (either the one with the statues or another one) click "drop all statues" on statue man, are they safe? Looking for a way to not fuck up and waste my 12K POW statues.

[old crane]

I think that would only take from the inventory of the character that clicked it and storage, not other char's inv

[tall horizon]

dont use deposit all, its bugged atm

[quiet pewter]

lock is safe, it cant take from other players anyway

[quiet pewter]

it is?

[tall horizon]

Yes, isn't giving the full deposit value

[quiet pewter]

i want to speak to the manager

[fallow aurora]

12m damage increase from upgrading to diabolical weapon

and i see u need a ton of hampters for the next tier of weapons.....

[sour oasis]

I now have carpal tunnel

[dapper prism]

May be a little late now but hope you didnt do 1 inventory at a time..

[sour oasis]

I had ram, just spamming deposit all...

[fallow aurora]

how else are u supposed to do it

[dapper prism]

You can do several inventories at once, 2 methods. 2 Vids here:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[fallow aurora]

ty

is there a bug with the forge? when I click deposit it doesn't hit the forge cap

then I have to manually drag the ores in to hit forge cap

[manic moat]

let's say the suggma recipe drops and I don't pick it up, Will it drop again?

[old crane]

I imagine it should

It should be showing on the slugma card if it can drop still I think?

[opaque sun]

you can farm many of them as you want until you use it

The card info lighting up just lights up if you registered the slab of that icon which is shared among other recipe of same tier

[manic moat]

I knew about that. I've just killed so many suggmas

could I have the same chance of the recipe dropping using candy as if I was farming actively?

[opaque sun]

active usually is like 20x more better than afk

and good luck trying to use candy in w5

[manic moat]

oh, duh

[ocean fox]

Is it true that I should only level each statue one at a time otherwise the statue exp bubblel doesnt work?

[opaque sun]

we figured out that startue exp thing was fixed

Only thing to watch out is if you use “deposit all” when the statues are in character’s inventory, it skips onyx exp bonus

But its fine to deposit all from storage

[old coyote]

at what point can i start doing rift? only late game?

same question for onyx statue

[fast grail]

Rift whenever your damage allows, onyx statue wouldnt try to do below 1 in 45 crystal change and 10dr

rift mobs have fairlylow hp at the start, like under 20m hp mobs for the first 2 rift rewards

[opaque sun]

do rift whenever you can

Like the lowest wave and highest wave have a very different requirement, its not like you do all in one go

[burnt sail]

I did rifts around 100-150B damage on most chars and it wasn't that bad FWIW

[shy flame]

is there anything to keep pong from randomly lagging?

[opaque sun]

do it at a relatively empty map like doot map or somthing

[shy flame]

wait, I can play it on any map?

[opaque sun]

Like quick ref exists?

[shy flame]

okay this should make it a lot better thanks, I've never really looked in quick ref aside from boss keys and storage

[placid mural]

Has anyone checked to see if there is an update in beta-lock?

[sick sentinel]

Nothing recent

[ocean fox]

cool does onyx bonus work when manually depositing as well?

[zealous niche]

In quick ref

Anvil items can be claimed, arcade is fully accessible, storage is viewable until you get ram which then makes it fully accessible, construction is fully accessible, gaming is fully accessible, 3D printer is fully accessible, obols are fully accessible

Looots of convenience

[clear quartz]

quick ref, my beloved

i still need to get around to getting beefy prayer, imagine that might help decently getting the last few rifts pre-ruby done

sort of at a loss of what i want to dedicate time to doing lately, ended up tired of greenstacking on ES and going back t obeans, still running some bubo every few hours, and spending all my atom charges to push through alch stuff, unsure if ive forgotten anything to work on lately. stamps i guess are lacking but yeah

[fast verge]

hold up let me alch

its actully going

[opaque sun]

Onyx exp bonus works both manual deposit and “deposit all” from storage

Just doesnt work if “deposit all” from inventory

[ocean fox]

Ahh ok thanks

[sour oasis]

@fast verge how do you have 500 larry and 500 quick slap but your NBLB bubbles are only level 88

[zealous niche]

NBLB min just indicates how long since you got the node and if you’re claiming every day

[sour oasis]

yeah i guess so

He just moves quickly

Lots of atom production

[opaque sun]

500 doesnt take much time

[shy flame]

do pet eggs give gaming progress?

[opaque sun]

Why would it

[shy flame]

no idea but I also have no idea why I randomly got 3 hours of gaming progress

[sour oasis]

DK talent, big bubble proc

[opaque sun]

Using bubbles of gaming or from gaming po box

[shy flame]

I'm on ES, haven't switched to another character to proc afk gains, and don't have gaming po box yet

[opaque sun]

any case its not from pet eggs

[zealous niche]

A desync resynchronising?

[shy flame]

ah, that could be it, I'm not used to dealing with extended desync stuff

[opaque sun]

That just sounds like you just resynced lost hours from ES lag

[zealous niche]

Long active sessions tend to desync

[shy flame]

thanks, was incredibly confused because all I could come up with was, "I used 3 pet eggs and right after got 3 hours???"

confirmed was just resync

[small lantern]

Do Biggie, Doot, Yaga, etc count for Vman's Bossing Vain during a speedrun? Or just world key bosses?

[opaque sun]

its just world boss.

[dapper prism]

Also to keep in mind,
For portal runs, doing higher difficulty world boss gives more portals. (do hardest, get 3 portals) No need to do them in order, just do hardest directly.

For sample (respawn) runs doing higher difficulty is irrelevant to the respawn talent, so doing normal for 1 key cost is best. (cheapest)

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Rip, thinking of doing more quests on all alts and saw this..
Anyone know if there's more of these shrine movement/relocation quests?

@opaque sun sorry for ping, just hoping if you knew? 🙂
https://i.imgur.com/Pdu7GyE.png

[opaque sun]

yondergreen is like the only prick that asks to reset shrines for some measly quests

and maybe the w3 tutorial quest which you should be way done already

[dapper prism]

tyvm, just checked w3 tut, luckily no, besides another annoying one being "take 2 samples" which would reset relic, but that's not as bad

[clear quartz]

yeah, yondergreen quests ive decided i wont end up finishing on all dudes that dont have it already, unless w6 has content that makes moving from w4 to there

[small lantern]

Oh I never even though about sampling using speedrun, how foolish of me. Thanks!
I had noticed the multiple portals, since I 1-hit in NM.

[dapper prism]

Its the best way to get mob samples

[dapper prism]

||https://i.imgur.com/Ro7R3Na.png||

[clear quartz]

i need to work on my vman, he has pretty garbo tier samples last time i did a run

[small lantern]

I should probably resample soon, that looks tasty

[clear quartz]

started deleting as i finish the relevant vials, but yeah its been slow

[dapper prism]

When you finish the vial, be sure to double check if any stamps still need it too

[clear quartz]

oh yeah, stampa

[dapper prism]

I removed 2 as well then did stamps and realized i needed them, and only had the 50m left.

also alch bubble is sometimes a situation, try and get them to the 100m range for atomable

[clear quartz]

i think i should make a hard push on stamps again, although everything i think is coin gated for the most part still

[hybrid halo]

Only a handfull of stamps are coin gated

[shy flame]

how do you get past 175 speed?

[dapper prism]

You get more speed, you probably have the chip on atm and havnt reached 175 naturally

[shy flame]

Ah, chip hard caps it?

[sinful aurora]

Speed potion from w4 shop

[dapper prism]

No

[sinful aurora]

Thats the ultimate answer to movement speed

[shy flame]

I hit like 230 or something using boost foods but it didn't register for shimmer island challenge

[dapper prism]

But if you have anything like the chip (+30% move speed if under 170%) if you're currently on 170% and gained a bit of movespeed, its because your essentially like 140-169% atm

[dapper prism]

Mhm that's weird

Then again 180% to 245% is essentially the same reward

[shy flame]

ah dang, that's probably why then

[dapper prism]

It should still show the 230% as your highest speed though.
But definetely use an archer, buff move speed talent and use move potions

[opaque sun]

people get move speed to like 1400%, so like mere 100% or so doesnt make much difference in shimmer reward

[dapper prism]

Those lowish levels each ~80% is still 1 extra shimmer

https://i.imgur.com/uzwReMM.png

[shy flame]

Alright, it's good to know at least it should register (even if it doesn't change reward). Probably just some client side wonkiness

[vagrant mountain]

nice

[dapper prism]

Making Lava proud

[clear quartz]

oh yeah

[dapper prism]

1k levels, nice

[crisp silo]

Thats still alot of greens, but good progress

[clear quartz]

yeah, i am short on mats and will have to print stuff, and work on some coining again

[dapper prism]

get your gmush up 😄

[clear quartz]

getting close to eclipsing it, maybe ill do that

[crisp silo]

Not even eclipsed, smh no wonder u broke

Gotta get them rookie numbers up🔥

[dreamy igloo]

anyone got a link for tower defense setups?

[dapper prism]

ctrl + f spreadsheet

[dreamy igloo]

wat

[dapper prism]

You can Ctrl+F to search for the word spreadsheet and can easily find the doc, in future reference:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[dreamy igloo]

Well look at that, thank ya!

[clear quartz]

ah yeah, not great from a single cranium cook cycle

[noble mesa]

Cristal or weekly boss island next?

[fast grail]

Crystal is much better

Decent exp and free candies

[sinful aurora]

Free dogs? Coumt me in

[noble mesa]

Its deyly?

[fast grail]

YEs, spawns like 2 crystals daily iirc, and holds up to 7 days worth of crystals

[noble mesa]

Tnx

[sinful aurora]

How many hours of candies is that daily as an average?

[true anchor]

does anyone have the levels that are big jumps in loot/speed for each boat?

[sharp vine]

iirc it's like every 9 levels?

[sick sentinel]

Ie or IT does

[willow sorrel]

i swear this fucking suggma recipe does not exist

[true anchor]

ie did thanks

[clear quartz]

i got tired of afk farming it, i might go back and active it on ES at some point but am over it for now lol

[shy flame]

Want to confirm something: I've heard kruk gear in general but magma core for samples; this means use magma core when taking samples from skilling due to the bonus from all stats, yeah?

Okay cool, does this mean the skilling specific gear for like chopping, mining, etc is basically irrelevant when you have full magma?

[azure spindle]

it'll depend on stats, eventually when your stats are high enough then yes but I'd check the efficiency differences between the two anyways

I know that part of the all stats use is mana and health snapshotting as well for the samples so might use magma then swap to specific skill gear if that's better for efficiency

[shy flame]

Okay yeah fair enough, was just finally putting some bits of advice I heard together and understanding it

[azure spindle]

fair enough

[clear quartz]

toolbox is confused

[dapper prism]

Not 100% fully like that

Magma better for sample.
Kattle top+legs with Magma head+feet better for the afk gain.
Kattle head+feet with Magma top+legs better for active DR/dmg

Essentially you would mix and match depending on what you are doing (afk kills vs active DR type of stuff)

[clear quartz]

also iirc catching stuff since no bubble gives things for archers will be straight up the skilling gear from what i tested, vs kruk/magma

(for sameples)

[shy flame]

Okay, I just made my only magma helmet a kruk helmet but at least the guy I was hoping to boost the afk gain of is on suggmas (that 1 in 50 mil drop chance recipe tho)

[dapper prism]

just active ES for it, also imo too many people focus suggma recipe way 2 early and don't even have all the proper things setup imo.

[shy flame]

I probably don't but I think it's the only world 5 recipe mobs drop that I don't have and it bothers me (also I'm just excited that I'm finally getting multikill on any world 5 mob tbh)

I'm aware multikill doesn't impact DR, but like a month ago multikill in world 5 seemed difficult and I was getting like 800k oak logs on a sample as opposed to like 4 mil now. Probably not the fastest progress but still progress

[clear quartz]

id be able to craft the last glove at least, which probably wont matter but itll feel like somethin

i need to get nblb off the dmg% top bubbles, doesnt seem like ill be able to catch up to that one soon, although i guess that wouldnt be a horrible one to have that hitting like the spice bubbles feel half the time

[potent lily]

What lvl do i need to get my orb to do the rift of the dk orb kills? Like rift 7 or 8 i think

[tepid obsidian]

gotta 1shot the mobs mostly, i had to manually control my guy for that one at first.

orb should be booked as high as it can regardless

[crude pier]

I just wanted to come here to curse the shovel system. I've been stuck on 10k for something like 7 months and just now finally got a big nugget. Measly 1k added. Won't even make a real difference.

[potent lily]

Yea but im lvling up my dk for its lvls

[clear parcel]

for the polytheism skill, exactly what is based on the talent level?

[sinful aurora]

Divinity points gained, acc wide. But the specific level also influence your double link, so don't blindly max it, it isnt worth it.

For instance, if you have nobody on the altar, you can just put 2 points in it on fighting preset to get nobisect or 3 points in skilling preset to get harriep for printing.

[clear parcel]

ohh i see

tyty

[thick pike]

How does the eyeball artifact work? Is it 25% of my total shiny chance, or just a flat 25% chance to be shiny?

[zinc torrent]

is it normal that in world 5 there no music at all or that's a bug of mine?

[granite grove]

no, its a special bug

[opaque sun]

w5 doesnt have any dedicated music, so it just inherits the music of previous map. And if you just enter w5 it has no music

Its always like that until lava makes and adds music for new worlds which tends to be lower on his list of things to make

[old portal]

is this decent alch considering i have efury with 98% CC bubble

[fallen flax]

When crystal farming, only dr matters and not mk, right?

[elfin cape]

Yes,DR, but MK tiers do give a bit of money too

[fallen flax]

M'kay. I'm just statue farming atm. Guess I'll turn midas on and change cards. 2 statues to go and I'm done~

[upbeat basin]

Are you using spear or stinger gloves?

Instead of the wand.

[old portal]

spear

[frigid patrol]

How much mana to keep es from running out?

[old portal]

there should be a talent that keeps ur mana up with ES

[upbeat basin]

You got choco chip?

[old portal]

yup

still feels like my CC is low

1/30 crystal spawn aswell

[upbeat basin]

Because with my 87% I get about the same

[old portal]

i guess just rng from here on out

[upbeat basin]

What's your cc lvl?

[old portal]

266

[upbeat basin]

busy brewing maxed?

[old portal]

ooo i forgot that tho it should still not mater on how many secs my CC proc

[upbeat basin]

That's true but still matters ^^

[old portal]

yeah but i just want better CC secs per proc

id worry on different thigns on different days

[upbeat basin]

and im better your tent skill is also maxed out.

[old portal]

i just want better raw secs on a single CC

[upbeat basin]

Because everything is very similar for us except for the fact that you bubble gives 98% and mine is 87%. and yeah tent skill matters with cc

[old portal]

other than the CC level itself and better crystal chance idk what else will effect it considering i 1 tick kill everything

it matters with CC but not its raw seconds output

[upbeat basin]

Well you got everything covered than. only thing i can think of is maybe your skill rotation

[barren otter]

you got the right talent bar layout?

[old portal]

ye?

[barren otter]

nope

[old portal]

is it the other way?

[barren otter]

hand before aura

[old portal]

aight time to see

[upbeat basin]

gl

[barren otter]

assuming everything else is good

its just bubble level

and crystal chance

[old portal]

yeah thats the only thing i can think of aswell

time to get better stamps

[shy flame]

everytime I think I'm doing okay someone is like, "okay actually you need to set your talent bar into a layout that reflects your astrological sign and takes into account the position of the moon"

[upbeat basin]

In a stat porn game you gotta get everything right for the best outcome ^^

[old portal]

350 is the max speed of the actual char can get right?

[uncut bear]

Gaming got nerfed?

[opaque sun]

nothing changed with gaming

[uncut bear]

Mh? 🤔

[shy flame]

not true, gaming recently changed when I learned I'm terrible at pong

[opaque sun]

you changed, not gaming

[clear quartz]

pongers, pongchamp

[shy flame]

If I changed I'd be good at pong 😞

[old portal]

still meme results

aight it be what ever

lower than my aura first layout

[barren otter]

you have 2 layers of rng

and you compared two single tests

[old portal]

yeah ik ill just let it be

[barren otter]

hand first is better on average