lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[cerulean hemlock]

Meh looter helps sometimes

sniper bullet helps a tad, and the nukes are just good

[tacit tulip]

not if alch keeps killing ya 😛

[cerulean hemlock]

It doesn't. Jusst gives me a heart attack.

[cerulean hemlock]

RIp stick, got devoured

[sacred verge]

yep

[cerulean hemlock]

How do you guys have like 50k power?

I get 20k at most

[tacit tulip]

high breeding level almost certainly

[pearl cedar]

Big breeding and big eggs

[cerulean hemlock]

It's impossible to collect spices

[sacred verge]

in only lvl 57

[cerulean hemlock]

lIke what? 80?

[tacit tulip]

57 is pretty high tbh

[cerulean hemlock]

rip

[pearl cedar]

82 gives me 190k+ though pretty sure I can go above 200k if I held onto eggs longer

[cerulean hemlock]

I need a good gathering set

BUT I'm lazy

so I''ll get it done within this month

[sacred verge]

so how should my setup look like for the 3 last spices?

any tips

[cerulean hemlock]

Lol now wonder I haven't unlocked banana

[cerulean hemlock]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[sick sentinel]

Use borgars and nukes if you need the pet power

Otherwise its mostly the same

[sacred verge]

ty

[signal crypt]

How do you get so low? That's the lowest pets I breed. I usually get around 80k and best is at 107k I believe.
There's a beast master skill that increases pet power. Do you have that?

[sacred verge]

ofc i got no more spice claims today... lol

[tacit tulip]

if your pet power is still a bit lower these will work

[sacred verge]

tyty

[cerulean hemlock]

Idk, I'm level 50 in breeding

[tacit tulip]

IE gives you your range before BM/Egg multipliers

that's at 63

[signal crypt]

Do you have all pets unlocked yet?

[placid mural]

Juicy!

[dreamy rapids]

Damn

What level is the Bubble?

[signal crypt]

lol

[placid mural]

but that is on my lowest level character, so they get the 50% class exp boost

[signal crypt]

That's more than 10x of mine 😅

[dreamy rapids]

That's 20 times more than mine

[sacred verge]

this is gonna be a while.. lol

[signal crypt]

I suppose that's your highest bubble? How high are your other bubbles (2nd highest and 3rd highest)?

[placid mural]

yes it is my highest bubble

[sick sentinel]

If you wanted to, could juice speed to one at a time using whales adjacent and borgar/forager

[cerulean hemlock]

Mehhhh W3 middle

[strong acorn]

Is there an optimal strategy anywhere for which gold food to use on which classes and also is there a set point of diminishing returns on gold food bonuses where adding more to a character is not worth it?

[signal crypt]

Focus on unlocking more pets so you get more breeding exp then

[placid mural]

this is my next highest

[dreamy rapids]

Kebab and Grilled Cheese

[cerulean hemlock]

Not when my chance to breed the final pet in w2 is one in 2k

And my spice gathering needs improvment first probably

[dreamy rapids]

For how long do you leave your Bubo active?

[tacit tulip]

if you really wanna improve, spam DK colo for eggs, to convert to DNA, to make unlocking easier

[cerulean hemlock]

sit, we call it forever

[cerulean hemlock]

oh yeah

[dreamy rapids]

I just put Grilled Cheese Kebab and Hanpter on everyone

[tacit tulip]

the level 60 upgrade, failsafe, makes unlocking all pets very easy too

[cerulean hemlock]

10 levels to go then!

[sacred verge]

damn these last spices is days

[tacit tulip]

you only need one

[sacred verge]

1 day for the first spice

42 hours for 2nd

[tacit tulip]

now that you're unlocking all meals heavily suggest booking the vman cooking talent if you haven't already

it's at this point cooking really explodes

[sacred verge]

did that ages ago

my breeding has just been lacking for ages

[cerulean hemlock]

Only a few more meals to unlock

[tacit tulip]

glad I was in w4 for a few months before w5 came out, gave me time to work on my breeding lol

[cerulean hemlock]

Me too

[dreamy rapids]

Same

Every day you see people post on Reddit and how most of then rushed through worlds

[cerulean hemlock]

Ikr

[tacit tulip]

that's the community's fault

[cerulean hemlock]

I started since before W2 released

so I've had too much time in each world XD

[tacit tulip]

Go check out w1-4 chats. Any question the answer is basically get your stats good enough to brute force to w5

[sacred verge]

i started something like 3 years ago

[tacit tulip]

noone ever teaches them to go back after tho

then they come here and get mad 😄

[sacred verge]

but i had over 2 y break, lol

[cerulean hemlock]

Which is when I slap my guide on them

And tell them to git gud

[sacred verge]

this was better

[pearl cedar]

Should I steal charge?

[tacit tulip]

spend your vmans first if you haven't

[tidal sky]

damn, do i buy golden watch or UI i wanted the UI but an extra day is soo good

[worthy shoal]

No character afk btw

[tidal sky]

ik just for the atoms and snail for me this is top tier

[worthy shoal]

No atoms either

[tacit tulip]

kinda sad it doesn't move your weekly stuff a day forward tbh

[worthy shoal]

Printing is not triggered

[tidal sky]

i mean the daily atoms

[worthy shoal]

Daily atoms ?

[untold saffron]

He means boron

[worthy shoal]

Oh, right

[steady beacon]

@dapper prism I was looking at your pin on the statue farming, and I have a question! For active ES, why are you using the card doublers on Drop Rate cards (doot, brightside) instead of the crystal spawns (poop, genie) ? Shouldn't the goal be to spawn more crystals? Thanks in advance!

[sick sentinel]

the statues you farm with es are mob specific, not crystal spawned

[worthy shoal]

For crystal farm, use DK

[tacit tulip]

Bubo: Total number of kills -> Total number of cystal mobs -> Money gain, also alchemy
ES: Portal kills (do not spawn crystals, though do spawn more mobs), buff only applies to mobs -> Mob drops
DK: Orb multiplier (so 100 is 2x drop rate) -> Crystals drop loads -> Crystal drops, also construction

basically, crystals is never the goal with ES, as DK/Bubo do them better

[sick sentinel]

dk took over as money farmer btw

i got 50% more money on dk with the same build yesterday

[tacit tulip]

ah right

[tidal sky]

at which lvl will i abe able to atom it?

[sick sentinel]

depends, its around 190-200s for most ppl

[steady beacon]

my thinking was to increase my statue drop rate by also farming them on my ES when actively working on something else. i should stop doing that then?

[sick sentinel]

i think i got mine to atom at 205ish

[elfin idol]

Im at 143 and youve ruined my day if its stioll not atomable at 180

[tidal sky]

damn

[tacit tulip]

When you try remember the following:

1. Do it on a non-warrior
2. Unlink the vial doubler bonus from lab

[tidal sky]

yeah, even with that it is not possible, but maybe 190 is the real range

[tacit tulip]

yeah I did it a couple weeks ago, was about 190

[heavy moth]

on bubo no doubler

[sick sentinel]

what is the other thing you are trying to work on actively? sadly es is one of the worst crystal farmers. but if you active them, es is best for bullseye, trapping, worship, construction statues since they are a drop from the mob card

[tidal sky]

oh no 😭

[heavy moth]

probably cause of orange bargain tho

[tacit tulip]

I basically spent a few days atoming everything to force carpenter to be in atom range

[sick sentinel]

same

[vagrant mountain]

was it worth it? lol

[tacit tulip]

yeah

I need to 90% it still but the gains are immediately noticeable

[steady beacon]

Doing other account progression stuff at the moment - farming ice age cds to get all my splicers to blue, then will head to W4 and 5 for pearls and hamters. Sitting on around 7.5 DR, 8.3 with the card doublers.

I've gotten the first 5 statues to onyx, but still a long way to go. Should I forget about statues for now?

[elfin idol]

I have about 5 more DR than you and got all the crystal statues over course of a month

[tidal sky]

whats ur highest dk lvl and br?

[steady beacon]

got it, need to raise my DR higher then.

[elfin idol]

tbf if you have some onyx'd i saw huge gains just leveling those further

[tacit tulip]

I've also not really levelled bob much so this can still go much higher

[steady beacon]

need to max another 12 vials or so before I can deposit any more statues!

[worthy shoal]

Check on it :

[vagrant mountain]

[elfin idol]

as long as youre over 200 crit and movespeed already, otherwise cash in imo

[tacit tulip]

^ don't depsit your crit dmg statues until 100% tho

gotta maximise that crit dmg

[elfin idol]

like i had 200k movespeed statues by the time i got everyone their power statues, cashed those in and finally felt like an endgamer lmao. going from 140% to 300% MS

[tacit tulip]

that was probably your food statues not the movespeed ones 😛

[elfin idol]

Ooh, yeah youre probs right had shit loads of those too

[vagrant mountain]

is this worth atoming?

[tidal sky]

will 100 lvls make this much difference huh?

[vagrant mountain]

maybe also this

i have construction obols snappshotted, i think im like 250m without

[tidal sky]

that was with snapshot too

[sick sentinel]

lvls are nutts for build rate

[signal osprey]

100 levels is a very noticeable difference. Every level gives more build rate than the previous level

[vagrant mountain]

true

[opaque sun]

Carpenter % ^100

[vagrant mountain]

im getting close to bob gaming

[opaque sun]

So its big difference

[tidal sky]

yeah, what is interesting is that even with a lower carpenter it is higher, so carpenter may not be very good

[tacit tulip]

didn't realise carpenter is multi with itself lol

[opaque sun]

Is why construct level so important

[tidal sky]

maybe spending all this time atoming bob would be much more efficient than trying to get carpenter to atom range

[tacit tulip]

from where you are it'd only take a few days of directed atoming

[signal osprey]

Carpenter will get to atom range on its own. Bob on the other hand isnt gonna atom itself

[opaque sun]

Like you cant really do much to get carpenter bubble to atom range

[vagrant mountain]

one of the first things i did after larry was atom Bob to 1000 heh

it paid off i think

[signal osprey]

Now do 2000

[vagrant mountain]

trying to polish off my bubbles for a resample before i full send bob

[tidal sky]

also do you guys have 2 BR obols set? to use ur dk with DR

[sick sentinel]

i have 1 full set, then family hex and sparkle. snapshot all of em

[vagrant mountain]

ye

[tidal sky]

that is a lot, i just have a personal one done

[sick sentinel]

its worth it

[vagrant mountain]

oh i just have personal set xd

i should but kinda lazy heh

[signal osprey]

I do the full family snap

[sick sentinel]

ya cause ur crazy

[elfin idol]

does the personal snap double you?

[sick sentinel]

the snap just keeps the effect while you can swap to drop rate

[elfin idol]

How impactful is the effect i mean

[sick sentinel]

ah i got you now

[elfin idol]

Cause id get working on it now if i could get shit load of gains

[signal osprey]

Its very impactful

[vagrant mountain]

personal snap takes me from 248m to 317m build rate

[elfin idol]

i can only work on obols during WFH becuase i need to trash them

[sick sentinel]

nothing, personal, persoanl and fam

[vagrant mountain]

spicy

[elfin idol]

nice, okay new priority for me lmao

wheres the best for farming obol fragments?

[spare cipher]

is it just me, or do i like, only ever get "damaged" purple cogs?

(construction level somewhere in the 200's)

[sick sentinel]

theyre just the most common

[autumn wasp]

can i see just fam nothing personal?

[tidal sky]

but I still do not understand, i know you can snapshot personal by just changing to a char with full BR obols, but also the family? you have to open it and change to DR obols again after

[sick sentinel]

for sanity w2 crysal mob farm

[elfin idol]

pots then for glass shards too?

[opaque sun]

Tysons for best per hr

[sick sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-judgment-day-rhea-ripley-damian-priest-finn-balor-dominik-mysterio-gif-26831238

[vagrant mountain]

you will keep the build rate as long as you dont change maps or open the cog page again

[opaque sun]

Sand pots for best value to get out of farming

[signal osprey]

Open a character with personal con and then manually swap con obols into the family page then swap to the character youre farming on and swap them back to DR

[tidal sky]

opening the obol page again does not lose its effects? from the other char

[sick sentinel]

if u actually wanted it tho here ya go haha

[signal osprey]

No

Only thing that resets it would be looking at cogs or changing maps

[vagrant mountain]

the cog page is the snapshot

[tidal sky]

oh i see, but the other char needs to be a warrior too then

[tacit tulip]

that's such a weird snapshot too. You'd think swapping from your snapshot char to DK would count as swapping a map lol

[sick sentinel]

its respawn swap all over again

[vagrant mountain]

cant you still snapshot respawn?

[opaque sun]

construction been broken since release, and never fixed

[green eagle]

cchiz card swap

[opaque sun]

Like whats with the active construct exp penalty

[signal osprey]

No it can be anyone but I do it on a warrior because a BB in the kitchen doesnt really need specific obols

[sick sentinel]

not the way you used to be able to, could do the construction style swap from a dif char b4

[vagrant mountain]

oh

[opaque sun]

construct obol is an active obol

Its does nothing when afk unless snapshotted to effectively act like active

[signal osprey]

You can technically still kinda do the respawn snap it just updates a few seconds later so you have to keep redoing if you're using it for candy

Basically use one big candy and then resnap lol

[sick sentinel]

interesting

[opaque sun]

It takes like 3-4 seconds to recalculate respawn

So if you are quick enough to candy, yeah you can

[vagrant mountain]

keychain swap tech

[signal osprey]

I wouldnt ever bother with it personally unless I was throwing 72 hrs at gmush and even then meh

[placid mural]

2 1/2 weeks on this stretch

[tidal sky]

do it for ur 500 hour cosmic candie proc 👍

[vagrant mountain]

im about 2 weeks into sandy pot prison

[signal osprey]

I forgot to do it last time I used cosmics on gmush

Would have been nice as I got a 6 day candy lol

[opaque sun]

Keeping the cosmic for fractal unlock

[pure yarrow]

should i rush unlock tab 5 cus fuck tab 4 salt costs?

[sick sentinel]

yes

[signal osprey]

Tab 5 gear takes tab 4 gear so no getting past the salt cost

[opaque sun]

most of the thing uses tab 4 items tho

[signal osprey]

But yeah getting tab 5 is still good for unlocking bigger bags

[vagrant mountain]

just wear dementia until you can craft 10 sets of troll

[signal osprey]

I finally got rid of my last dementia set yesterday lol

[pure yarrow]

yeah im looking to unlock the bags, is it worth it?

[sick sentinel]

yes

[signal osprey]

Bigger bags are always worth it

[vagrant mountain]

bigger bags bigger stamps

[elfin idol]

theres a 12/20 loot value captain in the shop - do i cop him for someone

[hybrid spindle]

how does king of the remembered work if you have 2 dks?

[sick sentinel]

keep 1 char with a lower material bag if you want to do the forge exp cards wihtout a cardifier

[sick sentinel]

takes the higher lvl talent

the kill number is shared

[tacit tulip]

highest talent level - fairly sure their kills add

[vagrant mountain]

captain o gots to go

[tidal sky]

I made a sheet to see my worst captain and i go by that, idk if there is a tool that does that

[elfin idol]

toolbox is good telling you straight improvements, but only when all staats match types

goodbye fren

[opaque sun]

Or just manually divide the numbers by levels

[vagrant mountain]

i feel like something is wrong with DK orb talent but i pretend not to notice because there's nothing I can do

[tidal sky]

too much work lol

[hybrid spindle]

that's why I'm asking

I often look and it shows 1 instead of 1.0X

[vagrant mountain]

theres no problem if you dont look

[signal osprey]

Yeah mine is always 1% lower in game but IE/IT show the correct amount so I'm choosing to believe I'm getting my full value

[elfin idol]

facts, cancer only kills when doctor tells you you have it

[hybrid spindle]

if it's just a visual mistake, i don't care. I'm just worried that it's not

[tacit tulip]

I know it's for slab but feels disgusting making one of these...

[elfin idol]

kept these for the same reason

[signal osprey]

I used my slab pop sparkle for far longer than I should have lol

[autumn wasp]

is the roll based on the amount of times you claim and not the bar amount?

[tacit tulip]

I have some work to do...

gonna go make my construction set first

[signal osprey]

I wanted to make a second dr set and used it as an excuse to not farm an extra dice sparkle

[opaque sun]

the forge card drop rate kind of scales with how much you deposit, but it caps at a such a low value as it was something made back in w1

[dreamy rapids]

Oh hell nah

[elfin idol]

why is it only my skilling obols that get destroyed on combine

[signal osprey]

You dont need to do active bubo for 2 weeks straight to get that bubble level lol

Liquid isnt the bottleneck its resources because all your logs get atomized

Just upgrade it once an hour and you get there eventually

[opaque sun]

unless you are telling your little brother to click GT

[signal osprey]

It was a pic of a 6k wis bubble

[dreamy rapids]

I am talking about the EXP bubble

[signal osprey]

And he asked how long you needed to bubo to get that but buboing isnt the problem

[sick sentinel]

he posted an almost 20k gt

[signal osprey]

I'll be there soon

[opaque sun]

beat the crap out of your little brother to not forget to click 24 times a day

[vagrant mountain]

[dreamy rapids]

Some people here really sell their soul for this game

[vagrant mountain]

mostly their little brothers

[opaque sun]

watch a Florida Man kills family for forgetting to click on an idle game

[tacit tulip]

damn I should started on this construction obols sooner. one hex obol takes me from 115-119 build rate

"build speed" impacts exp too right?

[dreamy rapids]

https://youtu.be/8sgeuldfOwM?si=32_qXWD3Hwa96ST_

[vagrant mountain]

nah

[opaque sun]

Build speed and exp are symbiotic healthy relationship

[signal osprey]

Yeah it does

[sick sentinel]

build speed does, build rate doesnt

[vagrant mountain]

oh

[signal osprey]

Build rate is how fast you build things. Build speed gives you build rate and con exp

Thats a fun distinction not ever explained in game lol

[vagrant mountain]

didnt realize there was a difference

[opaque sun]

build build, the musical skill. The more you build the more you exp, the more you exp the more you build

[tacit tulip]

going to hit a problem sooner rather than later anyway

guess it'll be sandpots luk obol farm time

[hybrid spindle]

where do you even find build speed? I thought it was always build rante?

[sick sentinel]

obols

[vagrant mountain]

so STR gives you more build rate and exp?

[hybrid spindle]

are sandpots better than sandcastles?

[signal osprey]

Obols, carpenter, and con mastery are all build speed

[tacit tulip]

comparable but you do it for the glass for stamp

[sick sentinel]

sandpots offers glass shards too, sandcastles dont offer anything

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure that doesnt actually work

[tidal sky]

actually tysons are better since they are mostly flat right

[tacit tulip]

god never noticed carpenter was speed

[sick sentinel]

for strictly crystals yeah

[opaque sun]

STR influence on build diminishes hard relatively early

[signal osprey]

Yeah even ignoring glass shards pots is better than castles. Sand castles was the W2 map from bubo before DK existed. Now sand castles is trash

[opaque sun]

If only interested in frags, go tyson

[signal osprey]

But as bad as castles is its still better than snelbies despite all the people who say snelbies is a good map

[dreamy rapids]

What's wrong with Snelbie

[opaque sun]

Its too wide

And too few populated

[vagrant mountain]

snelbies good if you dont have 200% move speed

[vestal delta]

am I missing something? I get way better orb score on sand castles vs pots

[opaque sun]

Just because its a single platform doesnt meet criteria for good dk map

[dreamy rapids]

Well I guess I should've known that but whatever

[opaque sun]

Pots is “total value” including glass

Just for pure kills (frags) pots losts a bit, but no other map can surpass the value of glass

[signal osprey]

Glass shards

[ember abyss]

Can anyone give me some pointers on improving DR across the board, please? I see people with 15+ and I'm struggling to hit 8 on most characters - https://ian_6.idleonefficiency.com/

[signal osprey]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1141880730411094106

Every source of DR in the game

[opaque sun]

And if going to do sand castles, might as well do tysons which are effectively single platform for shockwave purpose and populated enough

[tacit tulip]

farmed a few quick obols, nice gains for a few minutes work

[vestal delta]

counting down the weeks until carpenter is atomable 🥹

[elfin idol]

do you reroll your const obols?

[tacit tulip]

yeah, +1% like with the drop rate ones

[opaque sun]

Its a misc stat, so yes

[frigid patrol]

Best char to go through w5?

[elfin idol]

Felt like forever then till it went to 2%

My purple constr needs replacing then F

[tacit tulip]

probably DK - don't push for the sake of pushing unless you need something from a specific map tho. Generally better to come back with multikill

[opaque sun]

To get the best value id say chopper or catcher

Like a miner DK that pushed through aint going to find a new mining node

[tacit tulip]

fair point

[signal osprey]

Yeah I did bubo

[muted slate]

with multikill you can push your bubo and do cc at the same time

[signal osprey]

I could chop the trees and it unlocked the good bubo maps

[tacit tulip]

this took less time than I was expecting lol

[glossy rain]

someone has like... a calculator for plant evos?

[ember abyss]

Where were you farming construction obols?

[sick sentinel]

#1106590058947035247 message

[tacit tulip]

bloodbones

I'll need to pause in a bit to farm some frags but these were nice gains

[fathom lagoon]

Is there any way to turn bronze obols into silver or silver into gold?

Or you gotta get lucky w the drop

[opaque sun]

like combine?

[frail mauve]

Have you ever opened the opol screen fam

[fathom lagoon]

Pretty much nah 😭 my most neglected part of my acct tbh

[hybrid spindle]

any suggestions on what to focus after not playing for like a year or something

[fathom lagoon]

Just finally got all the star signs figured I’ll focus on obols now lol

[opaque sun]

maybe read the obol wiki page

[frail mauve]

Lmao you can get silver from 2 bronze of the same type and so on

[fathom lagoon]

Aight will do lol

[frail mauve]

Drop rate opols are standard for family since it gives a lot

[hybrid spindle]

how are you guys handling the 50 sets of obols you need? 9 for the different skills already (mining, chopping, fishing, catching, worship, trapping, contruction) + 1 for multikill and 2+ with dr. And that's just the bare minimum. If you want to sample most efficiently you need 2 of each set to also fill the family page 👀 And for all that shit we have like 30 slots of obol space? 😮

[opaque sun]

character also acts as an obol holder

[tacit tulip]

for the most part I don't bother with individual obol sets

I have my DR set and now my construction set

might make a trapping set and a worship set oneday and just store them on the character

[opaque sun]

the afk tends to wear their respective skill obols

[hybrid spindle]

yes but that's only 1 set. i pretty much need to stash my obols on my chars. but where to put my skilling obosl if nobody is skilling? then I'd need 10 dr obols and that's impossible

[tacit tulip]

you tend not to keep individual DR sets on each char

[opaque sun]

Like bm is fine to be on full trapping obols

You only need like 1 or 2 sets of dr personal sets

Dr personal is mostly for active farming

[hybrid spindle]

my inner minmaxer has a huge problem with that ^^

[steady beacon]

since we're on the subject anyways, can someone explain again how obol snapshotting works? Is it that I put the construction obols on my second DK, log into him first, then switch to my active DK who has DR obols instead? and just avoid going back to cloud save / gem shop?

[hybrid spindle]

yes

[steady beacon]

Do they have to be in the same map, or can they both be in different ones?

[hybrid spindle]

map does not matter

[steady beacon]

Can i switch to other characters?

[sick sentinel]

exactly that, but just dont refresh map or go to the cogs page in construction. the buildings page is fine

[steady beacon]

ah, can't leave the map either.

[hybrid spindle]

only if you switch to the one with the contruction obosl in between

at least if you still want the bonus

[sick sentinel]

you have to resnapshot if you swap chars or maps

[steady beacon]

it's going to be hard, i compulsively quicksave by going to the cloudsave menu anytime i'm switching players. ^^

[hybrid spindle]

then you better get rid of that habit

[sick sentinel]

dont have to do it all the time, but worth for longer sessions where you dont touch the game much

[hybrid spindle]

yes. I don't bother with it either unless I spend quite a time actively farming on someone

and even then my cog pulling mostly renders this useless ^^

[opaque sun]

Basically just check construction with the best builder, and make a habit of switching to build speed guy before doing active farming

[steady beacon]

do i reroll thebronze trapping/construction obols the same way we did for the DR ones?

[steady beacon]

i think my active DK is my best builder though... so should probably make the second one my active.

[opaque sun]

Misc can be rerolled at lowest form, skill power at top cant be rerolled unless hex or better

[sick sentinel]

construction yes, but not the trapping/worship/chopping/mining

[rapid locust]

does the second DK actually add to the building?

[sacred verge]

dropped something like 0.4x dr, any tips?

[sick sentinel]

cardset?

[sacred verge]

nope

[opaque sun]

When active, the active guy gets a construct exp penalty due to lava coding

[sick sentinel]

obols, sb, card?

fam obols too

[sacred verge]

it might be SB

[signal osprey]

The second DK does most of your building. You put both DK's on the board so they get all the cog exp bonuses and then the active DK recieves an exp penalty for some reason that lava never cared to fix

[prisma drift]

.4x is really small for SB tho

[signal osprey]

So your afk DK will always end up being a higher level and contributing more total build rate

[sacred verge]

it was SB

[rapid locust]

oh i have neither of them on the board, they're making cogs lol

[opaque sun]

The sub construction assistant DK who takes the exp penalty sill contributes like 30% of the build rate, so he stays on board

[sacred verge]

it was a bit more than 0.4

[rapid locust]

I probably need to sit down today and do that cog calc website

[steady beacon]

oh, cool. don't need to worry about book leveling the second one's active skills yet then. 😄

[opaque sun]

Other guys just takes up precious exp cog space so they are stowed away in the cog making slot

[tacit tulip]

ok out of frags for now, but 15% increase over what I had is pretty nice

[hybrid spindle]

small? 3.5x11= 38.5% That's 100B kills

[prisma drift]

It’s a multiplier on your total DR

[hybrid spindle]

WUT

[prisma drift]

A 10% multi means he has less than 5 DR

Mine is at 20% with under 100k kills lol

[hybrid spindle]

change of plans ^^ First stop obols, next stop grinding those kills

i didn't even bother putting points in it with my 40 kills ^^

[sacred verge]

i dont have less than 5 dr tho

[opaque sun]

plunder kills makes any dr upgrades worth more than their face value

[hybrid spindle]

was just an example if you had 100k kills too and got a 20% bonus

i think

[prisma furnace]

Does %Food effect affect Golden Food or does it specifically have to say %Golden food effect?

[tacit tulip]

has to be golden

[prisma furnace]

Ty 🙂

[prisma drift]

DR with and without SB talent

[hybrid spindle]

wow...i got half that

[sacred verge]

im at about 17.5x without and 18.18 with...

[prisma drift]

Is it max booked?

[sacred verge]

yes

[prisma drift]

/have you killed any plunders haha

[sacred verge]

and i got almost 20k kills

[prisma drift]

Are you sure your other sb doesn’t have it leveled

But lower level

[sacred verge]

he might

does that matter?

if so i did not know ....

[prisma drift]

Well it only uses the stronger one

[opaque sun]

Raising the same talent on two just wasting talent points

[sacred verge]

havent bothered resetting on 10th char

[prisma drift]

Understandable

[sacred verge]

he dosent have much invested into it

but main SB its at 302 iirc

[prisma drift]

I just get more talent points from nblb hitting those bubbles

[sacred verge]

ive got more than enough SB talents tbh

[hybrid spindle]

is there a mapped out way for the Mollo Gomm weekly boss? I think I've seen something of the likes around here

[prisma drift]

#1084911530417606656

They update it for each boss

[hybrid spindle]

that's convenient, ty

does the gold pocketwatch work like the silver one and basically moves the weekly reset, or is it like time candy?

[green eagle]

i should've had this forever ago. i just always forget to claim spices with the free spice claim talent lol

[noble mesa]

Hi u all
If i send u my ie , can u help me what to do
I fell like all i do is 1b on all mobs and alchemy

[haughty yacht]

Is there a guide or pinned message anywhere that has all the augments on furnace speed? Bars are my bottleneck for all my gear upgrades

[tacit tulip]

If you're not using it, put some points into the archer skill that generates forge progress

[white carbon]

Your archers have a talent (bottom left second page) that gives furnace time per kill, best way is to 3 minute afk archers

[tacit tulip]

that, plus capacity, are essential

[white carbon]

Not many ways to increase speed outside of forge upgrades and barrels

There is also an arcade bonus for capacity

[tacit tulip]

plus this achievement

the reason you go for capacity is your afk claims are gated by how much ore is in the furnace at once

more ore = more per claim

[formal minnow]

I can't seem to find the worship guide, does someone know it?

[sick orchid]

Can you get banned for auto clicking kattle?

[tacit tulip]

Anything that involves third party tools is banable

[sick orchid]

How it is detected tho?

[tacit tulip]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hybrid spindle]

what is kattle? 👀

[tacit tulip]

I could make some pretty reasonable guesses having worked in games myself but talking about such things is also 🔨

[tacit tulip]

w5 boss

[hybrid spindle]

yeah, people have been banned for less, so I'd be careful

[opaque sun]

smelt speed is bottlednecked by forge cap, so not much upgrades of that

[fluid tinsel]

The voidinator tower removes the green worship enemies regen ability I assume?

[unreal forum]

What dmg does your maestro need to do nightmare kattle?

[opaque sun]

20b ish minimum

200b ish for an “auto and forget” fight

[tacit tulip]

50b takes about 15 mins so you can estimate accordingly. Suggest you check the pins on how to kill it too

[opaque sun]

You can technically kill it with 1b, but will take like a day or two of manual controlling

[hybrid spindle]

interesting... so I have 10 days of work ahead of me

that sounds like fun

[tacit tulip]

BB is equally a pain

and BM has some issues too due to arrows not mega-critting

(probably not as bad now we have onyx crit statues tho)

[opaque sun]

BM got a so-so okay aoe so kind of manages fine as long he is set auto near kattle

[tacit tulip]

yeah it mostly just takes a while

[prisma lance]

What's the max stat for round AGI obols? +4? +5?

[noble mesa]

https://lackerdalackerd.idleonefficiency.com/
Hi u all
Can someone take a look and help me on what to do?
I fell like all i do is alchemy and 1b on all mobs

[tacit tulip]

No that about sums it up - you're in the late game now which reduces what you need to do

[noble mesa]

@opaque sun
I know u can help me🤓

[noble mesa]

Hooffff

[tacit tulip]

you're basically just optimising things until w6 comes out

[elfin idol]

anvil material points 🤮

[opaque sun]

overall it aint bad

[elfin idol]

poison tincture to level 4

[tropic kiln]

is it normal this took me like 10 days

its just fish

[tacit tulip]

you should know by now that fishing sucks 😛

[noble mesa]

I just hate traping

[opaque sun]

Is also why fishing bubbles are not that easy to hourly click

[steady beacon]

Only 10 days? That's pretty damn good! What's your print?

[tropic kiln]

well with the addition of seasalt well see how much it sucks when we will need the fish for stuff

[elfin idol]

your total building level is also pretty low, way lower than mine but youre months and months ahead

[opaque sun]

Just 1b ing the cauliflower fish isnt that bad

But if we have to bubble it, it will be bad

[noble mesa]

Yhet y im stackin them now

[tropic kiln]

87k

and I am on 6x

[tacit tulip]

if you haven't you should try re-printing after sorting out all your onyx statues

[tropic kiln]

my cauli print is 17k 😭

I just need the w3 statues then I am good

they take way too long tho

[tacit tulip]

the food % does wonders for the catching/fish prints

[tropic kiln]

I think I will just candy it

should I candy with es

[tacit tulip]

probably vman - highest drop rate

[tropic kiln]

he has low damage

[green eagle]

literally talking about that stuff is bannable mate. read the #server-rules

[tropic kiln]

does damage make a difference

[tacit tulip]

to an extent, you need enough damage/attacks/movespeed/attack speed to max out afk gains on a map

[tropic kiln]

too many stats

[tacit tulip]

I'd like to hope that you have enough for w3 mobs 😉

[tropic kiln]

I would I think

I mean candies arent an issue 😉

a bit stingy on candy

[iron citrus]

i am right in thinking then an item has dropped from a mob its no long black (blank) on cards section?

[tropic kiln]

also do I do this

I have 382m damage 💀

with this

[green eagle]

if you don't want it to reduce your dmg too much you can always not max it

[tropic kiln]

I mean its w3

I dont think it will create a big problem

[tacit tulip]

An item matching that icon. I specify as people often worry about recipe drops. If you've ddropped any w5 recipe, all show as visible

[iron citrus]

oooo thnk you, the fists weaspon for Vman is showing as visable but i dont have it unlocked in anvil

[noble mesa]

Its pain to get it

I get it prrety fast , only 100m kills

[tacit tulip]

once you have it the item will disappear from the card - until then you can still get it

[sick orchid]

@tacit tulip i saw you talking about cons obols, do they work on afk DK?

[tacit tulip]

It's complicated

your construction rates update when you change map or look at the cogs tab

so you can place the obols on a warrior, change characters to your DK, and get the benefits from them

but otherwise they're purely active obols

[silent pelican]

so i've been seeing a few late game people usin magma over divine armor pieces, are they generally considered better?

[tacit tulip]

divine was a sidegrade, it's better in some circumstances but worse in others

[sick orchid]

Got it, thank you

[tacit tulip]

you basically pick based on what you need

[elfin idol]

So only log out for the day on contr obols?

Does it matter what you then log in as?

[sick sentinel]

i dunno if it works like that

[dapper prism]

Magma better for sample.
Kattle top+legs with Magma head+feet better for the afk gain.
Kattle head+feet with Magma top+legs better for active DR/dmg

[sick sentinel]

but if they do work like that, you would want to log out on the dk with the obols and log back in on the same char

[silent pelican]

sweet, ty, if it's good to mix and match i can still kinda fix my problem lol, only 3 characters fully divined out

[tropic kiln]

is 9 box statues per 1h candy normal

[sick sentinel]

whats ur drop rate and afk gains

[tropic kiln]

11.37 and 138

[sick sentinel]

kinda low, also use respawn gear/chips

speed pots

that would be pretty bad to candy

[dapper prism]

Pin has some average for statues/h with the stats i had. e.g. Box should be like 50ish/h afaik

[tropic kiln]

50ish

how do I achieve that lol

I got it to 12 with respawn gear

[dapper prism]

your afk gain is still pretty low too

[sick sentinel]

more drop rate, afk gains, and respawn sources

[tropic kiln]

wait I need snake god

[tacit tulip]

Part of the reason I active farmed those is I didn't wanna think about my setup lol

[tropic kiln]

active is slow for me too

what are quick sources of afk

[dapper prism]

Active should still be 10x more statues per hour than a candy

[sick sentinel]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1144747572280438874

[tropic kiln]

do I double afk gain rate or drop rate cards

[sick sentinel]

try both, probably afk

[tropic kiln]

ok

drop rate obol or kattle obol ?

[tidal sky]

yo, what is the max lvl we should have on the dk orb so it does not stays longer than it should? 269?

[gray pagoda]

What do you mean doesn't stay longer than it should?

[tacit tulip]

267

[tidal sky]

iirc if you place another orb while the previous is active it will reset the count when the other expires or smth like that

[tacit tulip]

If your orb is high enough level DK will just recast it immediately once off of CD

If it's low enough, atthe point where it's about to run out, it won't instantly recast which gives you a couple more seconds of the buff. Kinda unintuitive, but levelling up beyond 267 results in less orb count

iirc if you can get it above 300 it can be fine again but that needs rift slug

[gray pagoda]

So you just infinitely place orb? Does the count reset when you place the new one?

[sick sentinel]

yeah from what i've seen ppl say is 300 no mana box after 267. someone also said it was probably more like high 280s but idk

wish i could test, but not slug

[tidal sky]

@tacit tulip just finished farming all the BR obols for family snap, went from 126 from personal only to 173 + the exp i believe

[sacred verge]

its 270 i think

[echo remnant]

Guys, why does Dreadlo Pichaxe look like copper pickaxe on my character, did Lava not make the skin for it?

[sacred verge]

i got a better question, why dont you get a full set of tools. hehe

[echo remnant]

Yeah, I haven't taken care of this this character yet, he's my 8th one and just my mining slave for now...

[sacred verge]

still worth it to brind him to void atleast

[echo remnant]

Yes I know, I'm just too lazy atm

[sacred verge]

yeah i know the feeling, lol

been there done that

[echo remnant]

But can you answer my original question though?

[sacred verge]

dont know, never payed attention to it

[echo remnant]

I guess he just didn't make the skin for it. Must've forgotten about it.

[sacred verge]

try cloudsave/relog if you havent

[echo remnant]

I did try that already

[green eagle]

filling it out more and more

[dapper prism]

Souls looking at you like 👀

[paper sail]

[pale otter]

What are the best cards for damage?

[dreamy rapids]

The cards that give damage

[raw tundra]

looks rather beautiful. what a crazy buil

[pale otter]

Okay thanks

[dapper prism]

If your acc is linked to toolbox, you can use this to easily find stuff:
https://idleontoolbox.com/tools/card-search

Most common stuff is blitzkrieg troll, Dr. Def, Citringe, etc

[green eagle]

not to mention most of the critters lmao

[paper sail]

N.Troll > Dr. Def > Citringes > Snowman = Bloodbone. The last card is situational. Could be Sand Giant for a DPS increase (but no multikill increase), N.Chizoar depending on your stats, or some pure stat

[green eagle]

@dapper prism my souls are all so sad

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/vKrbYBe.png

And i've doen 2b+ souls recently.

[green eagle]

yeah i'm doing the forest soul vial right now

then going to go back to 1b eventually for the power of 10 talent

[paper sail]

I 5* cardified Squishy Souls

[green eagle]

i don't blame you

[severe axle]

worth putting points on speedy book? (elemental sorcerer)

[dapper prism]

Yeh i did both those and thats how little cards i have xD

[dreamy rapids]

I wish all those talents would not reset

[green eagle]

yeah the soul cards are kinda bs

if the TD gave more cards in a run than a worship I'd do it more

[dreamy rapids]

Like if I got to 1B soul it should always stay like that

[green eagle]

and by more, i mean like A LOT

[dreamy rapids]

[signal crypt]

Blitzkrieg Troll, Dr. Defecaus, Citringe, ...

[dreamy rapids]

Is the DK orb additive or multi?

[sick sentinel]

ites weird

every 100 orb score counts as basically another kills worth of drops

[dreamy rapids]

So it's not even drop rate increase

[raw tundra]

how many have you even gotten to be that expensive?

[sick sentinel]

thats all i really know about it

[dreamy rapids]

Ok but what about portal

[sick sentinel]

i think jroh went deaper in his drop rate vid

portal i dont know

[prisma drift]

I just know it works and that’s good enough for me

[dreamy rapids]

Funny enough when I active with SB I actually got more keys than I got on my DK

[sick sentinel]

looks like comments say portal is multi

[pearl cedar]

Then you're doing something very wrong

[dreamy rapids]

When you put DK for like 8 hours on Wurm how much you usually get?

[sick sentinel]

over 70/hr

[dreamy rapids]

Ok never mind

[sick sentinel]

depends on drop rate of course

[dapper prism]

70 is on the higher end

[pearl cedar]

What is your orb level? Has to be super low to get more keys on SB than dk

[paper sail]

Don't even think about moving, stupid tree

[dreamy rapids]

My highest drop Rate was like 13

Kinda hard to push it

[sick sentinel]

haha idiot tree

[paper sail]

True, true

[cerulean hemlock]

Oh god it's the unrooted type

If it starts saying, "My name is Groot" run for the kills

[clear quartz]

ENT TIME

[paper sail]

I know about Treeguards, I don't mess around

[dreamy rapids]

Yondergreen come for his tribute

[paper sail]

readies lighter

[barren otter]

was it lvl 9 or 10 trash before i could start buying the other stuff?

[paper sail]

6 then 9, giggity

[barren otter]

nice

i can buy 2 stamps today

[paper sail]

I am not bothering with that sample stamp until it matters lol

[barren otter]

yea im already at 10k+

so putting lvls into that doesnt do much for me

[paper sail]

Gimme that drop rate

[barren otter]

maybe i should have waited for the DR one first lol

[tall horizon]

Can get 90% without royal because of stamp

Not that the exp matters much lol

[paper sail]

#best-suggestions-✅ message I'm so ready to lag out spawning 300 Biggie Hours

[tall horizon]

Imagine the rain of candy

Would be glorious

[steady token]

you can spawn 300 Biggie Hours together?

[thin kernel]

as for now.. is only one at the time 😉

[paper sail]

the suggetion I linked would be to allow that. You can't right now.

[tall horizon]

The meta would become, hoard eyes until event, use event summon items for massive orb.

[paper sail]

You forgot lag and lose it all

[cerulean hemlock]

OH GOD DON'T STARVE

[pearl cedar]

Clicks portal

[tall horizon]

Some sacrifices must be made

[green eagle]

as opposed to the current way where people hoard the event mob summon items to use them all on DK

[cerulean hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/thorobr-rng-fire-elmo-gif-14506283

I offer Elmo

[tall horizon]

True true lmao

[paper sail]

I'd settle for not having to drop the stack of eyes each time.. Spawn 1 at a time, just let me auto D:

[cerulean hemlock]

That's why Lava had to disable them after like 6 months I think

I clearly remember him stating in chat/stream that the old event items can't be used after a certain amount of time

Either the time is random or his code messes up that specific even reward

[paper sail]

[cerulean hemlock]

use one and see if it still works

if it does, you're in the clear

[paper sail]

Gotta decide what to use it on first. No waste

[cerulean hemlock]

A single one

[paper sail]

I was gonna do Boops, but kept missing start of week for Giants combo.. Then I cardified lol

[cerulean hemlock]

Hey, I'll take the cardifier

[paper sail]

I want more

[cerulean hemlock]

We all want more

Besides me. I'm content

I got 32mil+ max damage today

Now it's 432 mil

[paper sail]

[cerulean hemlock]

7% increase

[dry musk]

What should i do withe the trasure Hunter quest trash?

[cerulean hemlock]

use it

[dry musk]

How ??

I mean the Brocken waepon, stone peanut Mayonnaise bottel etc. Can i throw it away ?

[agile obsidian]

Yes

[cerulean hemlock]

Yes or keep it. For fun

[dry musk]

I need space in my chest ...

[lost tendon]

Is it doable to go from void -> troll instead of void -> chizoar -> troll ?

[cerulean hemlock]

trash then

[dry musk]

[sick sentinel]

For sure

[worthy steeple]

do the w4 and w5 card packs have a way to garentee a card like the w1-3 ones do

[sick sentinel]

Troll is its own armor, doesnt need previous

[lost tendon]

Because i don't really want to do troll ahha

i mean chizoar **

[worthy steeple]

the wiki doesnt say so but sometimes the wiki misses stuf

[sick sentinel]

As long as you are good on defense with food ur good

[lost tendon]

troll salt is not fun btw 😦

[sick sentinel]

[cerulean hemlock]

better than the 10k requirement on something that I can't seem to remember

[lost tendon]

the magma trap

ye thats not fun either

[sacred verge]

does carpenter bubble give buildspeed pr total cons lvl (all chars)

[paper sail]

Per character

[glad crow]

anyone got the chip setup for gmushing?

[cerulean hemlock]

No

[glad crow]

:C

then maybe the card setup?

[cerulean hemlock]

No 😭

I need to save those things

is it in #1084911530417606656 ?

[paper sail]

I believe it is AFK, 2x respawn, 1 card doubler for Amarok, starsign doubler, neck doubler. Then if you have the 20% respawn keychain, double it, else double Boop card

[cerulean hemlock]

No card doubler? nvm I'm stupid

[dapper prism]

Read it again o.o

[cerulean hemlock]

I know

[visual pier]

Is it more worth to just have no prayers since I have No More Praying unlocked on gaming?

[cerulean hemlock]

NoMorePraying is the worst (MSA) "buff" to ever step foot in Idleon

[paper sail]

Primordial Shrine might try to argue

[cerulean hemlock]

Nope! W3 merit task shrine level increase

So it's slightly more useful

also skill mastery

[old lion]

first thing to focus when entering w5?

[rustic garnet]

my ES all of a sudden has super low AFK rates gain...

oh durrr

carry cap

[paper sail]

Town quests, then divinity for a few days :c

[cerulean hemlock]

So No Praying wins!

[rustic garnet]

What does primordial shrines do for no more praying?

[fallen torrent]

Trying to kill the rift monster with prayer giving 1300% more hp

Wondering why i wasnt making a dent

[cerulean hemlock]

Scroll up a bit

[paper sail]

Me doing a Voidrun and wondering why my samples are shit

[cerulean hemlock]

Starting from where I said, "Nope!"

[fallen torrent]

i gotta do voidrun also

you sample trying to do vial for that right?

[paper sail]

Vial and refinery, yeah

[fallen torrent]

🙂

4k bulleyes statue left

[paper sail]

Or even Coconut / Stache Combs for Quick Slap / Call me bob

[clear quartz]

i need to do a proper run at some point, my vman smaples kinda blow, these vials are taking foreaver

[ocean lily]

any way to carry over your vman's trial run to the skilling preset? or just gotta bit the bullet and do it over, weaker?

[fallen torrent]

finished, now trapping

[rustic garnet]

I don't understand the linkage, really

[fallen torrent]

trapping= Vman candy at pen?

[rustic garnet]

why pen?

[fallen torrent]

wait what was the monster or it i forgot xD

[clear quartz]

im reading it as saying primordial shrine is on par with being as useless as no more praying

[rustic garnet]

oh

fine

There's more useless ones

the nice thing about PS is that it at least fixes oopses

[fallen torrent]

dang i cant find the trick section

[rustic garnet]

Are you talking about getting offline trap time?

you can get worship exp with a trick, but I haven't heard of trapping exp with a trick

[fallen torrent]

sry i mean

[rustic garnet]

ugg I gotta resample 😦

[fallen torrent]

the section Tip and trick on discoird

[sick sentinel]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084911530417606656

you may need to update your app

[fallen torrent]

same here my samples has to be redone, and also there's lavanomic does it really give green gems on the game? 😮

yeah it doesnt show it for me naturally

[rustic garnet]

green gems somehow?

[fallen torrent]

oh i had to click the lil arrow. bruh

[rustic garnet]

oh jesus, no it doesn't

[fallen torrent]

theres just raffle sometime there right

[rustic garnet]

lavanomics is a meme where you 'work' and 'bet' or something and get incredibly fake gems

[fallen torrent]

okay haha è;p

[rustic garnet]

I don't know if there is any tangible value to it

when do I stop pumping quick slap?

[frail mauve]

Never?

[rustic garnet]

surely there is another thing to focus for a bit?

[frail mauve]

Bob bubble is good and cog prod

[rustic garnet]

cog prod?

[frail mauve]

Cogs for hands bubble

Yellow one

[rustic garnet]

err why is that good?

[fallen torrent]

gotta work on the quickslap here as well 😮

[rustic garnet]

I may be missing something, what interaction does cog production have on anything?

[fallen torrent]

1428hr if i were to candy to get 20k statue with vman on trapping

imma leave ES active during workshift instead. xD

[rustic garnet]

None-the-less - ;-D

[rustic garnet]

I'm confused to why cog production is good?

[frail mauve]

for one sec production of purple or what you prefer

[rustic garnet]

is there something I'm missing though?

like, what's the value in that?

[frail mauve]

Never having bad cogs

xd

[rustic garnet]

do you get more cons exp?

what is your cogs for days at and what is are your cogs at? curious

[frail mauve]

shit but if you look in endgame chat some people get 170+ exp cogs and get more than 1 purple cog a sec

[wind umbra]

pretty sure cogs for hands is dookie, no point in levelling it

[rustic garnet]

ok, is there some cog scaling though?

[wind umbra]

all you need is bob

[frail mauve]

fair

[rustic garnet]

yeah, bob is where you get good cogs from

not cogs for days

[frail mauve]

it still helps speeding it up

[rustic garnet]

not really

because the slow down is the cycle click

getting 1 or 2 per click is w/e

[wind umbra]

con lvls does what cog on hands does and more

[cerulean hemlock]

i'm pretty sure the skill mastery thing is wrong

But the W3 merit task where your combined shrine levels = x is true

[balmy harness]

Silver Pocketwatch good?

[cerulean hemlock]

For slab

[balmy harness]

so only buy 1?

[cerulean hemlock]

You can buy mulitple if you like

[balmy harness]

yeah, is it worth it?

[muted slate]

golden way better

and save some for talent book

[balmy harness]

okok

[pearl cedar]

To click more cogs

[rustic garnet]

Right, aka, not that good

[runic token]

what's the best way to increase oceanman statue from catching drop rate using candy
DR effects it right?

only getting 54/hr when using candy right now

[sick sentinel]

DR, catching speed, afk gains

[wind umbra]

catching speed*

[placid mural]

page 1 complete!

[sick sentinel]

u can take off the food replenish auto arm and use single catching food for the whole candy time

[paper sail]

You can also just carry all of your spare skilling food in your inventory, not your bank

[green eagle]

jealous af, i've been sailing for that artifact for 2+ weeks now

[sick sentinel]

true, but the auto arm is also not necessary for most people at our stage

[placid mural]

it gets nutty when a single dish takes 3000 ladels to complete lol

[paper sail]

"Our stage" is quite different than the folks that just walked into w5 and might be seeing this channel, so just wanted to offer alternatives

[sick sentinel]

its just the anvil tab 5 stage since its so easy to make food bags

[upbeat trout]

how does shiny pets work, i just realized you can swap breeding mode betwen shiny and normal when hatching eggs

[green eagle]

is this enough dmg for w5? > 10m max dmg

how do i increase my dmg? > ignores all the advice given because it's the same thing they've been told in the past

[sick sentinel]

shiny pets give different bonuses, the graphic is in #1084911530417606656 . if you breed them you can put them in your fenceyard to level them up

[placid mural]

like so

[green eagle]

and don't forget to breed shiny pet speed % increase First

[sick sentinel]

shiny speed then infinite starsigns if you have those unlocked in rift

[upbeat trout]

oh so they get levels while staying in fenceyard? ok is there a tierlist what shiny to get first

[placid mural]

faster shiny level rate ALWAYS first

[upbeat trout]

cos i got 2 artifact chance first as im farming eldrich now

[placid mural]

get all of the faster shiny pet lvl up to at least lvl 5 or 6 then move on to the others

[green eagle]

artifact chance shiny pets are not worth it until later

[sick sentinel]

all shiny first, you can put multiple of the same pet in the fenceyard at once. each one contributes to daily progression

[upbeat trout]

ok, are their bonuses passive all the time or do they have to stay in fenceyard ?

[sick sentinel]

passive

you can see them in the shiny tab

[upbeat trout]

okks, thx will work on that now, thx

[paper sail]

Only 3 non-directional cogs left on my board with under 100% exp

[dreamy rapids]

Somehow doing N.Kattlecruk on Beast Master was more annoying than Vman

Mostly because I didn't notice the vibe skill bugged

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/a5242f490799bda5368915703385901f.png

its never enough

[icy jewel]

it circles back to alchemy anyways

its a trap

its actually a good guide tho ngl

[hexed dawn]

what is bob

xD

[untold saffron]

orange big bubble

[knotty urchin]

does anyone have a crazy multikill in w5

[sick sentinel]

a lot of ppl, do you need something?

[knotty urchin]

I just wanted to see how that looks

[sacred verge]

whats ur definition of "crazy MK"?

[knotty urchin]

im not sure

[sacred verge]

what do you think is carzy

[pulsar condor]

how do I kill a lava skull mob in the rift?

[knotty urchin]

I dont know what the highest could be

but close to the highest

[sacred verge]

its no "highest"

wdym

MK can allways go up

[paper sail]

People are reaching over 30,000% MK in W1. W5 won't be as high

[hexed dawn]

i have x1 op multikill

[knotty urchin]

yeah ik,,,, highest there is right now

[signal osprey]

How are we supposed to know that lol

[knotty urchin]

oml

I said close to it, as in someones whos just very very late game

[sharp igloo]

I wouldnt say im very very late game, but i get about 1mil kph on the last map of w5

[knotty urchin]

that seems really good

good job on that

[sharp igloo]

Thanks, Im sure people with more damage and afk gains are getting a lot more, but thats what Im getting with 1tril damage

[paper sail]

💪

2% afk gains hits different

[vestal delta]

I'm just sat here trying to clear off all my chemical plants and it's neverending 🥹

[vestal delta]

🥹

[modern plaza]

does salt to rank up go past 1mil?

wow, so it ranks up faster and faster once you hit 1m

[wind umbra]

pretty sure some ppl rank up every 8 hrs now

[modern plaza]

seriously tho… 1b void salt now possible

just not enough output from the furnace lol

[nimble yarrow]

I just logged on and for some reason had over 62k strange rocks in my stash. anyone else have something like this happen?

[steady plover]

How long it take to reach their

[old crane]

Just unlocked chemical, do I need to harvest individually with them for the time skips?

[latent garnet]

Mushroom map is broken or is it just visual bug?

[modern plaza]

now gaming will be a lot of gameplay haha

[paper sail]

Ya hate to see it.. Left all my chips elsewhere for several hours

[fallow aurora]

fuck......

[paper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-sparrow-potc-gif-6051882

[mighty shuttle]

Are we actually supposed to use rock

For gaming

[fallow aurora]

I spam upgraded my shovel after that

its my second big nugget but its lower than my 1st

[dreamy rapids]

It helps for getting the higher tier plants

Well "helps"

[glass quail]

do i harvets as soon as i have plants reach cap or wait for them to mutate/grow further?

[paper sail]

Depending on how often you check, Rock is objectively an upgrade during active times, but generally a loss during inactive times.

[glass quail]

also is possible to cheese with rock, wait for them to grow quickly then deactive and harvest or will their value stay nerfed even with deactivation?

[fallow aurora]

u can't deactivate/activate kitsune unless there are no plants

[signal crypt]

The vine skill bugged?

[sick sentinel]

even tho it visually stops the moles, they ghost progress

[paper sail]

The moles heal on a timer of being alive

[sick sentinel]

better way to put it

[paper sail]

If you slow, root, kickback, they end up healing before visually touching the boss

[signal crypt]

Oh wow as if it wasn't annoying enough already

[vocal flower]

Just kill them faster 🙂

[glass quail]

they heal on timer, certain time after spawning, stopping them has no effect on healing

[dreamy rapids]

Yea learned it the hard way

Had no idea why the hell does my BM barely go past 900T

[latent garnet]

What do you guys think if i kill 1.4billion of them? Is this end of the game?

[dreamy rapids]

Ahahaha

It is only the beginning

[foggy briar]

What is the recommended setup for this?

[last quiver]

anyone up for x40?

[merry pulsar]

any tips on getting enough inv space for 10m worm tails?

[sharp igloo]

Sorry just saw this, but it probably took a few months from when w5 came out. I wasnt multikilling any w5 mobs when it first released.

[thorn oriole]

What pet gives the most grey splice/exp or does it matter?

[weary granite]

I got the plant evo upgrade in super bits but tier 5 plants still don't spawn for me, even after a few days of progress and cacti and such

[thorn oriole]

Upgrading storage bags and the pouches

[merry pulsar]

i have the last pouch it only lets me bring out 7m of the 10m

[weary granite]

don't sleep on carry cap star signs too

[thorn oriole]

There’s a stamp, the star talent and ig star sign

[weary granite]

also vman talent would help

[gilded warren]

Pretty sure there's a prayer too

[fast grail]

If you have w5 bag and can’t carry 10m, sounds like major stamp neglect. Would focus on the material one and glass jar

[quiet pewter]

finally broke a trillion dmg

[merry pulsar]

jesus christ...

[fast grail]

Your next goal: get the funny purple numbers

[quiet pewter]

i really wish it would change at 1T instead of 10T, would be much more satisfying

[fast grail]

Also seems like pretty low agi for that type of damage.

[quiet pewter]

yeah candying the eclipse skulls

[fast grail]

No divine scarf? That’s pretty big if you plan on starting to eclipse everything

[quiet pewter]

yeah maybe i should farm that first, needs a rare w5 boss drop though right?

[sand summit]

Dude has way higher damage than me with better gear

[quiet pewter]

needs a strung tooth though

you stuck on your vman?

or a lot of time. you can do it on vman at low dmg, just takes a while

lol 5 hours would mean you have like 2 billion dmg

i estimate that at a 27 hour fight

might be easier to wait for higher dmg

[sacred verge]

17b is to low for nkruk

[quiet pewter]

whats nkruk?

[zealous niche]

It works ok with good aoe classes

[zealous niche]

Nightmare Kruk

[sacred verge]

no point doing it if u cant do it on all classes tbh

[zealous niche]

Getting some of the cards and easy teeth is still worth it

[quiet pewter]

sucks on bb too, other classes pretty much idle it

[zealous niche]

I had trouble with BM too

Vman bb and bm

[quiet pewter]

drop rate is king

[zealous niche]

What’s the damage range to get vman through nkruk reasonably

[quiet pewter]

at 50b its 10 minutes, so at 25b its 20 min etc

[zealous niche]

I’m farming eclipse skulls until I can get vman through

[unreal cape]

Anyone have recommendations how to boost my kills per hour to finish the challenge for 12 millions kills of green mushroom
(CURRENTLY AT 12.4k KILLS PER HOUR)

[quiet pewter]

just do the challenge later, it will get real easy eventually

[glacial venture]

lvl to 150 first

you need 150 anyway

[unreal cape]

Es unlock why is that sorry

[quiet pewter]

can you do the 12 M on anyone?

[glacial venture]

are we really in w5 chat here?

[quiet pewter]

yes, thanks for asking

[zealous niche]

The 12M kills needs to be on mman

The deathnote can be anybody

[quiet pewter]

ah ok, i already had the kills when the class came out so never really had to do it. gonna take ages for him at 12k kph though, so should probably work on other stuff first

[fallow aurora]

how much max talent level does the atom collider bonus give per level?

[tacit tulip]

10 for the first level, then 0 for the rest

[quiet pewter]

do you think clover trophies will actaully be used for much, or lava just trolling?

[pearl cedar]

Prob need like 7

[barren otter]

get 777 just to be safe

[quiet pewter]

if dx/dt = Nx what is equation of x?

[tall horizon]

1

[quiet pewter]

thanks

like x=1 ?

[fallow aurora]

is this ur math homework

[quiet pewter]

absolutly not, i am deeply offended by the accusation