lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[versed cypress]

if catchign is your lowest and hardest to level try to work o your accountuntill you vman can reach the dust motes and actualy catch them proeprly and you will see a rather fast level up

[lapis mesa]

oh he can reach motes, hes doing scarabs for cards currently though

though his eff sucks, sure im doing something wrong there

[opaque sun]

if not getting 100% chance, take off eff - talents/prayers

Even with dimwit if vman cant get 100% chance efficiency, then something wrong

[lapis mesa]

hes 100, guess im just to used to your guys ridiculous numbers lol

[opaque sun]

Past 100% efficiency doesnt matter for skill exp/cards

Its more of afk gain and tool speed (food)

[lapis mesa]

ah cool, so it just sucks anyway. Awesome

its getting there, almost caught up

[burnt sail]

Got it, thanks.

[versed cypress]

cards depend on dr card dr and skill speed for the most part once you have 100% eff, most of the time you get the same cards with your main skilles than with vman unless vman cant reach proper eff

[clear quartz]

hmm

feel like i keep forgetting what im working toward, i need to make actual notes and stop getting distracted on side projects. asidde from switching to vman placement of traps for sake of lvling the others for traps and maybe increasing dmg if trapping is the bottleneck, is that just mainly and endgame thing, since id imagine the shinies from beefmaster trapping would still be valuable, but maybe a small temporary break would make sense i guess

[dapper prism]

I like having 1 or 2 longterm goals, then a few short term stuff and list it out

Then ignore my list and do whatever xD

[lapis mesa]

long term #1 Git Gud

[clear quartz]

lol yeah i feel like ive been doing that :p just rotating through dudes and focusing a few bubbles, then forgetting why and changing trakcs completely

[lapis mesa]

my current one is trying to get all of the talent point bubbles into atom range

[clear quartz]

thats a good one

[dapper prism]

My 2 long term goals rn are 100b gmush and finish eclipse after that

[clear quartz]

100b? sheesh

[lapis mesa]

cant quite afford the atoms yet, but at least ill have it there

[dapper prism]

Technically i should just candy it.. and move to eclipse now since i cant candy w5 eclipse

But gmush has been pretty alright
https://i.imgur.com/ksT0No1.png

[clear quartz]

thats tasty

[dapper prism]

yeh, got 7 people at gmush atm xD

so even more tasty

[clear quartz]

i think i wasted some candy fairly suboptimally, but did a bunch of my superchows earlier, thought about doing all of w3 but i think i should wait

very nice

[dapper prism]

What's your kph?

[clear quartz]

like 2mil i think with sb and 4m with bb i think, i know bb is roughly double

[dapper prism]

Few mil is fine on BB for superchows

[clear quartz]

im so wasteful with my character allocations, im very bad at speccing people for afk stuff, since even fully optimized afker i think is still sub 200% afk gains

plus no doot so i have a bunch of people in lab for sake of getting that sweet sweet elephant god proc, but unsure if i should take a break from that and get more guys out actually killing stuff or whatever

[opaque sun]

kill like what

you will kind of realize there isnt much else to kill anyway

[crisp silo]

More char to manage = more headache

[clear quartz]

stuff dudes on gmush i guess, or maybe stick all the page2 guys afking stuff to unluck wurms or something so they have less sad lvls

although vman still the worst on that front

[opaque sun]

Even without doot, im sure you can send 1 or 2 out pushing or whatever afk

[opaque sun]

And with 2 god resets per week, that isnt really an excuse anymore for switching gods

[crisp silo]

Low level they say

[clear quartz]

i got everyone at least to kruk, but yeah unsure if its worth pushing them to the last zone or if its jsut a waste of time

[opaque sun]

If it can multikill, its worth to open portals

[clear quartz]

i mean ill switch for sake of like sampling and dont mind that, but something like elephant you wanna stay on yeah? for afking?

[opaque sun]

if not, dont bother yet i would say

[runic token]

I've got Sodium lvl 4, it says "...reset to the nearest 5 (Up to Lv 20)..." and my snail was lvl 17 and reset to lvl 15 today. Is this a bug?

[opaque sun]

Nearest 5 you ever reached obviously

[crisp silo]

No?

[clear quartz]

probably second sb can multikill, others i think have single kill range, but its been awhile since ive killed anything with them

[opaque sun]

else people will be intentionally aim to fail to get to 25

[dapper prism]

It even gives you the example in the description "like lvl 7 would reset to lvl 5" which essentially is the same as 17 to 15..

[clear quartz]

imagine rounding up :gasm:

[runic token]

gotcha, so once I hit 20, it wont fall below 20

[crisp silo]

Yes

[opaque sun]

resets to the nearest 5s you have ever reached before

[dapper prism]

Also, apparently you need to cloudsave for the atom upgrades to work (e.g. go to character overview or something like that) idk, that's what someone previously mentioned that it doesnt update properly 🤷

[raven vale]

Do the bit bubbles ever become atomable?

[eager sedge]

No

[raven vale]

cool ty

[opaque sun]

maybe one day we get insane bit multipliers that essentially allows us to outpace nblb for those bit bubbles

[granite grove]

if lava ever makes 125 snail levels as hinted in the atom

[eager sedge]

prob not

[opaque sun]

Or add like platinum nuggets, dem nuggets, void nuggets that multiplicative with each

[eager sedge]

we would need atleast 2 ?more things that boost gaming like snail

[eager sedge]

no more nuggets

I alr used my luck there

[dapper prism]

dont think 125 is even hinted at it. every atom just goes to lvl 20. it was probably just easier to code an extra snail than "work around" changing the max cap for the one.

[worn sonnet]

New vials baby

[dapper prism]

Nice

[finite hull]

Apologies I'm sure this has been answered already but in relation to gaming when picking flowers is there a recommended order? Specifically when I have some sprinkler charges, I'm not sure if I should be picking plants that are closer to max evolution, or plants at a lower evolution and then hitting the sprinkler? I.e. is the rate of bits from an earlier stage evolution better or should I try and finish the ones that are close to complete

[opaque sun]

pick cactus first, pick chems last

[raven vale]

I usually let berry trees hit rank 3 before picking as well

[opaque sun]

Weed out any weak plants like leaves and shrooms as soon as you see them

[sinful aurora]

Shrooms arent that bad. Trees are bad.

[opaque sun]

nah, shrooms are in the bad side considering other options

[sinful aurora]

They're the 3rd most paying in terms of bits.

[opaque sun]

trees arent common enough to make a difference with weeding

[sinful aurora]

Im talking about bonsais, not evergreens.

[opaque sun]

Issue if leaves and shroom are more of their frequency

i weed out bonsai too

Voraci also a weed material

[sinful aurora]

I pick voraci first just so they dont produce more weeds xD

[opaque sun]

Its more of if its not flower/berry/chem, its wasting space

Fungi isnt bad, but its too frequent and not good enough bonus to keep

[dapper prism]

^ that plus i keep a some nice center placed cactus

I honestly also keep evergreen pretty often

[opaque sun]

Christmas tree for the yolo high roll

[sinful aurora]

Evergreens disappoint too often, i stopped caring.

[finite hull]

So specifically if I use this board as an example, the recommended way would be to pick 4 cactus first and then hit the sprinkler and collect the rest? I am only gaming level 94

[opaque sun]

Sprinkler is more of when you cleared everything

And you hope for a single chem

[dapper prism]

Gotta think like this, most plants are only 3x or 7x like berry. So if you have a few bad evergreens but a good one it balances out pretty nicelky 😄

[finite hull]

Is it not better in this example to go down to 16/20 and then use the sprinkler to go back to 20/20?

[opaque sun]

It you care to manage clicking it

[finite hull]

I was assuming I might get a plant closer to an existing catcus or spawn a new one

[opaque sun]

But usually clear the all, sprinkler till you see a chem

[sinful aurora]

I think 16/20 and use sprinkler is better cause if you get a cactus it isnt wasted.

[opaque sun]

Then clear again

[dapper prism]

I would clear everything there except cactus, use water to fill the board , remove/replace and try and get high to cap again but with better plants as the above mentioned. then use cacti then loot the rest there

TLDR: Yes, 16/20, sprinkle, repeat until no water.

[clear quartz]

would be nice if sprinkler applied growth cycles, but i guess that would be broken having cactus and sprinker doing the same thing maybe

[swift rose]

I have arrived

[opaque sun]

Eventually cactus becomes like squire’s refinery skill that its not worth to bother when your cycle time becomes short enough

[sinful aurora]

My current board is 20/20 chem. Probably should do something about that tomorrow.

[opaque sun]

Unused chem is basically blocking future chems, so yeah do something

[dapper prism]

Did the same for the lolz

[sinful aurora]

Lazy >< specially knowing it may take 2 hours.

[fallen flax]

Was this overkill when going for T6 plants? Or do I repeat for the next plant? (Weed replaced a chem plant)

[dapper prism]

Getting rid of them was rough.. go down to 12/20ish and suddenyl end back up on 18/20 xD

[dapper prism]

Roughly 10x T5's rest keep open spots to get more attempts at chems for time skips/log skips

[fallen flax]

Ah. Makes sense. Thanks!

[dapper prism]

Side note, if you lay out your items (snail is irrelevant) somewhat like this, then nearly all the time everything will spawn more compact:
https://i.imgur.com/M5c9Mid.png

[fallen flax]

Nice! I was just trying to keep everything out of the way.

[dapper prism]

After tweaking them a few times it gets pretty nice

[fallen flax]

Moved them, popped sprinkler, and 5 plants popped up in the cracks like weeds, lol

[clear quartz]

squirrel needs pinned down, i hate the lil wandering monster

[fallen flax]

Oh yeah. Just as bad as real squirrels. Always where they shouldn't be.

[swift rose]

so according to the divinity pin (i have doot) i should get level 2 divinity on all my characters then throw them back in lab cause they'll still get div exp that way?

[empty ridge]

Got 2 islands left, fractal and crystal, does it matter which I get?

[marble shuttle]

Fractal is usually recommended 4th, but 5th ain't bad either. Depends on how many spare candies you have or spare characters to do nothing to get to different afk tiers

[static tree]

anyone got tips for salling? cant get new artifact in 1 week 1% chance each chest and nothing

[shrewd pollen]

Should I do the yondergreen quest for shrine placement first? does it cost a lot to move shrines?

[fallen torrent]

FINALLY! 28k nugget. up to 45.3k!

[sinful aurora]

Tip: when you do, do it for all 10 chars at the same time so you never have to move them there again.

[marble shuttle]

You can try to increase artifact find rates. Shinies and something else contributes to that. Otherwise just gotta check every 2hours

[shrewd pollen]

I don't have the last 2 chars unlocked 😦

[marble shuttle]

You lose whatever progress you have on your current level when you move shrines (hence the tip from wenapek)

[shrewd pollen]

that won't be for a long time considering I need level 9999 xD

[static tree]

check every 2 hours better than 12 hours?

[sinful aurora]

Yes. Just dont burn yourself out.

[shrewd pollen]

Should I wait till I unlock the last 2 char slots then before I do this shrines business?

[marble shuttle]

Well you want to set up boats so that they finish in the minimum amount of time (roughly 2 hours). It's like eggs and breeding, quantity over quality

[marble shuttle]

You have 10 already? Or 8?

[static tree]

and level up better chest skills?

[shrewd pollen]

8, I don't have the level 9999 slots unlocked lol

[marble shuttle]

Up to you, it isn't that big of deal, just the most efficient

[sinful aurora]

??? 9 and 10 arent 9999

[static tree]

should i focous for ancient eldrics or just new ones?

[opaque sun]

Thats 11 and 12

[sinful aurora]

9 and 10 are 600 and 900

[shrewd pollen]

If I place in w5 now I can get boosts to all my chars and push, then unlock the 2 char slots and complete the quest and move 4 shrines 2 times. What is the downside to this? I can probably move the shrines that are lowest in their current xp at that time? idk what do you suggest?

[sinful aurora]

You want fauxory tusk eldritch asap for more artifact find chance.

Thats from the first island

[marble shuttle]

Balance both, I'd slowly get some of the earlier ancients and Eldritchs as they have a higher rate than the last relics

[static tree]

u guys got all on eldritch?

[sinful aurora]

Some do. Thats a minority though.

It gets really difficult around mushroom island.

[opaque sun]

The UI for weekly battles with the circle pip to indicate on which character you are suggests lava might be considering 11th and 12th char soon

[marble shuttle]

My current progress

[static tree]

Got this, but cant get any new one in weeks

[sinful aurora]

It's pretty good actually

But yeah luck is like that. Sometimes you get 3 in a week. Then you go 3 weeks without any.

[static tree]

yeah, mb just need luck

[opaque sun]

had like a blank 2 mo. then suddenly my last 4 eldrtiches came in a week

[patent hatch]

10th character came out like 12 months ago right

Maybe longer

[opaque sun]

feels longer

[dapper prism]

You should not be going from left to right.. you will bottleneck yourself pretty hard that way

[marble shuttle]

Wdym? I don't mind switching things up

[undone nacelle]

Win some, lose some. Unlocked chem today but squirrel dropped from 9->5. Probably worth having kitsune on now?

[dapper prism]

Because you only have a few boats that can reach the end at a decent time. If you work left to right you will have a bunch of useless boats as only a few will manage the right ones. Always have your fastest boats on the furthest few islands, and only use your absolute slowest ones on the lower ones kinda thing

[opaque sun]

#patch-notes📝 message

[marble shuttle]

I do have all my boats on max distances

[dapper prism]

Oh just looked like you were going from left to right as you don't even have ancients on the last few islands

[marble shuttle]

Just poopy luck

[static tree]

better aim for eldrics, from left to right?

[opaque sun]

at least he got fury eldritch, so not too off the track

[opaque sun]

You should maybe focus more on the fury

[patent hatch]

Yeah it’s been a minute lol

[zenith cape]

Does it matter where I place the shovel in gaming or no?

[gentle furnace]

no

[bright current]

Ive heard good things about slightly up from centre

Dont let non believers deceive you

[marble shuttle]

Bottom right gang is best gnag

[formal minnow]

Finally got my dk to wurms... orb of 700 worth active farming there or should I just keep statue farming?

[potent maple]

where do the worship wave guides live now?

[vagrant mountain]

wurms are good if you need money / w5 statues / g food

[formal minnow]

I'm aiming for statues, but I know DR of w5 statues is crummy

I'm guessing wurms is also where everybody is nkruk key farming, so I've got other characters there, I just didn't know if 700 orb was really enough to bridge the crummy gap to get me some good amounts of statues

[gentle furnace]

main source of statue is from crystals and you get highest orb count in wurms so its definitely the best spot to farm with high crystal chance and dr

[opaque sun]

wurm orb goes up to around 880-900 at max, so 700 isnt bad

Probably just need a bit more orb duration (talent levels)

[vagrant mountain]

700 is about avg for 267 orb i think

[hearty lotus]

im trying to get bog atm. but it is taking oh, so long to get bits...

[signal crypt]

What's the best/fastest way to gather the 100k statues with BB?

[sick sentinel]

Candy dreadlo

[vagrant mountain]

do you guys slam only the first two spices in each kitchen or slam all 3?

i think only meaningful upgrades left for me is fluoride atom

and spices

[potent maple]

i did a bit of luck on the shitty kitchens for some cheap "total kitchen levels" gain, but not more than was considered cheap

[elfin cape]

I level them all evenly, for the total kitchen levels thing

As past like, third kitchen, the speed is negligible

[formal minnow]

I don't even think I've got the full 267, I think I'm at like 253

[elfin cape]

Mine past the third aren't even Richelin

[vagrant mountain]

i just got first 4 richelin

probably only needed first 2

[formal minnow]

But if 800-900 is average, then I guess that makes sense since I'm not even at 267

But I'm off to sleep for the night, see yall tomorrow!

[vagrant mountain]

gn

just when you think you've reached the end of the chem trail

help

[upbeat basin]

How in the hell is pong supposed to be "Pure skill" when every time I get a good run I get screwed over by a sudden lag spike -_- or the paddle moves on it's own

[elfin cape]

PC building skill

[upbeat basin]

My pc is beyond powerful enough to play this game so no

[raw badger]

I hate resampling, 2 hours and 4 only 4 chars. But I tripled my samples

[elfin cape]

I don't think there exists a PC powerful enough to run pong

[vagrant mountain]

its not a real resample until you post it on discord and get 2 pinchy reactions

[upbeat basin]

Than my point still stands 😂

got 15k - 17k - 19k in a row and than i lose due to lag spike

[elfin cape]

I did pong by watching youtube until the stars aligned and I didn't lag

[upbeat basin]

Just want the damn achievement

[elfin cape]

I wish the eff per quest talent didn't exist

I don't wanna do quests, but also don't wanna resample before doing all quests

[vagrant mountain]

actually being held hostage by chems

i cant

[granite imp]

which class is the best to defeat amarok with no talent points spent?

[raw badger]

I can only post what I have now but not before:-)

[raw badger]

Every class after a few level

[zealous niche]

If you’re in w5, any should probably one hit it

[granite imp]

I meant kattlekruk lol

mb

nightmare kattlekruk for the last quest

[tacit tulip]

Last kattle quest was kill with all 10 I thought?

[granite imp]

oh yes, was looking at the wrong tab. Thx

[signal crypt]

With best possible efficiency?

[tacit tulip]

Assuming you can 100% it, as much DR, speed, and afk% you can get

[signal crypt]

Beyond 100% doesn't matter?

That's good to know, thanks!

[tacit tulip]

It's kinda like multikilling mobs. Gets you the basic materials but not the rare drops

[signal crypt]

I see, thanks!

What's the best way to farm Bullseye statue? It feels quite cumbersome

[tacit tulip]

ES in the tree, or candying it. Pins have the specific for each statue 🙂

[left harness]

is it a strategy to kill normal world bosses for blue gems? i got 5-6k keys, would that not be more than 3k gems?

[teal lynx]

Yes ^^
The Maestro Skill for Double Loot can also give you 2 Gems per Boss Kill

[left harness]

really? :o

[tacit tulip]

It works it's just mind numbing

[left harness]

i dont like to spend much money on the game, so this would help to get some store shit i have been wanting

[tacit tulip]

Po6 farms colo tickets
W2/w3 colo generates keys
Boss farm for gems

Is a common strat

[left harness]

ah

nice nice

[teal lynx]

I have farmed 20k gems in the last 2 Weeks. Definitely very worth if you don't wanna miss stuff on the limited Shop

[left harness]

i might just farm wurms in world 5 and get keys from that

[mild plume]

Week 3 on my hunt for the one piece aka ancient fury....

[left harness]

oof, glgl

[outer harbor]

What's the max droprate for each obol after rerolling?, e.g. circle max dr is 4%

[teal lynx]

4,8,11,16

[left harness]

4 -> 8 -> 11 -> 16

[outer harbor]

ty :>

[teal lynx]

Technically Squares can be 9% if you get this Obol from the Random Event, and Circles can be 5% if you get Hyper Dr Obols

[outer harbor]

thx :D

[potent maple]

is it worth having a set of trapping obols?

and worship?

[upbeat trout]

at what % chance is it good idea to try unlocking tree in gaming bits, it has been ages and i m spamming at around 2-2,5%

[potent maple]

everyone says 0.1 since it gets more and more expensive

[upbeat trout]

eh? so i pop 1-2 plants and spam research ?

[prisma drift]

I got all mutations in like a month from starting w5 using the .1 method

[outer prism]

@stuck aspen no they don’t have higher crystal spawn chance its just that there’s an achievement that gives you crystal spawn chance to instantly spawn each day

[stoic silo]

where's the best place to farm power statues? I remember there weas a pin somewhere, but I can't find it

[opaque sun]

DK on bored beans

Its the second pinned comment here btw

[tacit tulip]

If you're curious the pin is this channel, the second item

[stoic silo]

ah I had scrolled past it

[opaque sun]

Its also pinned in w4 too just in case

[tacit tulip]

I'm guessing lavas last post is "update in two weeks" but I suppose he could mean anything

[uneven violet]

Does beach bro give additive or multiplicative coin multi?

[gentle furnace]

additive

[uneven violet]

So it’s shit and I’m not getting it, thanks

Oof but the candies and slab..

Ignore right side good name or nah?

[opaque sun]

its additive but to a relatively small pool so its not bad

it raises money to like roughly 3-5% or so in relative to not using beach bro. Issue is now we got divine trophy which often gets you to the next drop rate break point which is very slightly better

“Additive” is not an automatic “bad”, it depends where its added to

[ancient vine]

Guys a question for Beastmaster forge

To get more bars should i buy all purple forges and send him to Green mushrooms to get more kills and get more bars? Or any map is the same time

[viral snow]

Gmush for highest kph

[elfin idol]

First day of snail, does the encourage chance last forever or just till next level?

[fair terrace]

,

[vagrant mountain]

still so far

[opaque sun]

Technically frogs gets more kph, but any mobs caps out the forge per afk in 2 min

[vagrant mountain]

i was just doing my eclipses

[ocean fox]

Does anyone know where I can find which talent level corresponds with which god for polytheism? Its not on the wiki

[opaque sun]

W4 pins i think

[north pecan]

it's from 0-9 in the same order when they're unlocked

but you won't have the bonus with 0 though so for the snake god you need at least level 10

[opaque sun]

Sorry it was w5 pins

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[signal crypt]

Just till next level

[ocean fox]

I see thank you

[opaque sun]

Until you reach like lv20 ish, dont bother with encouragement

Overall its just a loss to use them

[elfin idol]

Thanks both

[true obsidian]

[fast verge]

that took about 30 seconds

[formal minnow]

Probably have doot too huh, ya lucky son of a gun? Jk, congrats on saving yourself the hair pulling

[dreamy rapids]

I finally got Eldritch Fury

I am so fucking happy

[hexed pine]

man it's weird i really don't rmb my vman pushed until moles

[dreamy rapids]

Pretty sure Vman unlock portals based on your other characters

Cause I definitely didn't push mine to moles

[hexed pine]

same

but it has kills shown on cards which is weird

[fast verge]

Vman speedrun resets All of his kills to 2m

[formal minnow]

They get reset to I think like 10 million kills on every enemy up to the max distance you've pushed after a speedrun

[fast verge]

Including from 0 as long as you discovered that mob on other characters

[hexed pine]

ah

no wonder

[fast verge]

[shy blaze]

does IE list onyx'd statues anywhere?

[tall horizon]

Player > statues

[jagged finch]

in Trash island, how many times I should buy New Bribes? or is it only one time and then I should focus on something else?

[tall horizon]

ignore that I misread lol. still drinking my coffee

bribes are a single purchase

[jagged finch]

😄

oki thanks ^^

[tall horizon]

can be purchased more than once, but dont do it.

[jagged finch]

I thought so, but better to ask than waste so many trash

[pearl cedar]

Big boi mods

[proud moss]

What's the deal with Bubo only wanting to use "Raise Dead" with boxing gloves if no mob is alive

[sick sentinel]

Is it stuck in a raise dead loop? Are the mobs dying still? If its hurting you try putting aura in front of raise dead, but if not should be fine

[proud moss]

sometimes it just stands still without using the skill even if nothing is alive (As if it's waiting for a target to use an ability against) I'm testing if it works with aura in front of Raise dead. So far it looks fine

[tall horizon]

remove injection, energy bolt and vials from your bars

[sick sentinel]

Ah that may be the issue

Still groggy from waking up

[proud moss]

Ah, yea that makes sense. Thank you

[tall horizon]

[clear parcel]

my game on steam (web and mobile work) started getting a black screen and after i reinstall the log in and resync buttons dont work. any ideas why?

[quartz turtle]

i think i lost one of my stamps 😦 might have exited the screen before i got the island stamp that costs 90..... anyway to get it back

[opaque sun]

trade once more

the island stamp are dropped on ground instead of going directly into your inventory

[tacit tulip]

And at quite a delay, too

[quartz turtle]

as in save 90 again? taking like 12 days :/// zzz

[opaque sun]

at least you learned about it before going for the nametag

[tall horizon]

#idleon-gen-chat There is a pin with some troubleshooting tips, but ima be honest. Seen a lot more people getting black screen steam and haven't been able to resolve it yet. So gl

[quartz turtle]

such a shit thing. but thx for at least verifying

[clever tundra]

Does Gaming level have any effect on bits gained?

[willow drum]

Theirs a talent on DK that gives bit multi per level of gaming

[spice frigate]

how does vman speedrun work? so the next one i'd have to open up new ones for more talent points or do they all reset or what?

[willow drum]

the more portals you open you gain more talent points no reset

[clever tundra]

you keep talents per the highest number of portals you've opened. if you do another speedrun and get less it doesn't take them away

[spice frigate]

so i'd pick up where i left off last time? or start over and hope to get further?

[clever tundra]

you start over on the speedrun

[willow drum]

Start over and hope to get further

[spice frigate]

okay got it, ty

assuming pocketwatch doesn't reset the ability?

[clever tundra]

without any changes in level on your vman it usually takes 4 or 5 to max out your portals based on the new talents you'll be acquiring and getting used to speedrunning

[spice frigate]

that does make sense. anyway to reset it early?

[hybrid spindle]

are there bonuses you can still snapshot?

[fallen torrent]

increased my nugget from 28k to 45.5k but not that huge of a change in the gains of bits i am suprised 😮

i mean might have just doubledl ike 3bit to 7bit per plants

[opaque sun]

Its still like 1.6x gains in relative from before

[fallen torrent]

yeahh

getting into tho 30k easier now. gotta get 100k Red bits now gogogo

[hybrid spindle]

is blood berserker just so strong when it comes to damage or am i missing something because most my chars have problems even getting to 2b dmg while my bb is sitting at a lazy 500b

[opaque sun]

he is a non-combatant supporter class despite his name

Lava oversight of giving him the worst scaling damage talents despite trading off HP

[hybrid spindle]

that sounds like the exact opposite of what I see

sure, his active abilities suck

[opaque sun]

so you are doing something wrong with other classes

[hybrid spindle]

but his raw damage is weirdly high

that's why I'm asking ^^

But I have no clue what would make such a big difference. We're talking about a multiplier of 100 that's somehow missing for my other chars

[opaque sun]

BB is more comparable to vman than other classes in terms of damage

[nimble yarrow]

If I have eclipse skulled 4 mobs so far, the total damage bonus from that should be 20% correct?

[opaque sun]

Its can happen if you are like a w5 rusher who only done combat

As other classes scales damage from skills and other non combat related things

[teal lynx]

Yes. But I always needed to cloudsave in order to get the Bonus

[hybrid spindle]

hhahahhaha

I'm so stupid

[nimble yarrow]

ahhh that's probably it. ty!

yep that solved it

[clear parcel]

simple reinstall didnt work but deleting the folder from %appdata% (which isnt listed in the pin) paired with a reinstall fixed it

[opaque sun]

yes that looks more like BB

[hybrid spindle]

that's not 7b 😂

I'm so used to having dots in large numbers for visuals

[opaque sun]

BBs are usually like “slightly stronger than vman”

[tall horizon]

updated the list, ty. Glad its working for you again

[nimble yarrow]

how much dmg do I need on vman to be able to not have like a 20min nightmare kattle fight?

[opaque sun]

200b for an “auto and forget” fight

60b for a relatively fast fight.

[teal lynx]

I did it with 30b and I would say it took maybe 15 minutes

Maybe 10

But definitely manageable

[molten flax]

How long did it take you to get the last Eldritch from sailing think I've been running it for 1 month+

[tacit tulip]

I've been hunting my current eldritch for 3 months, and I still have 2 more to do after

[molten flax]

Yeah maybe by Christmas I'll get it lol

[opaque sun]

“It will be over by Christmas”, famous last words

[spice frigate]

I don't understand how I get my talents above like 200? fully upgrading the salt book thing then what?

[molten flax]

Rift slug maybe?

[spice frigate]

181 is the highest i can do? (few levels short of capping the salt) and i have rift

[molten flax]

The rift slug just gives a flat bonus

[teal lynx]

75 levels Sailing Artifact, 5 lvl achievment, 10 or 20 from Saltlick

10 from Atom Collider

More I don't remember

[spice frigate]

fun.. an artifact and atom. well rip

[molten flax]

You also get + from divinity

[spice frigate]

well i have doot if that counts. if so i already have that

[teal lynx]

Arctis Minor link gives + Talent levels, so yeah you have that. ES Family bonus and Symbols of Beyond can also boost talent levels. But we normally don't count those, since it doesn't increase book max level

[spice frigate]

for sure. just gonna take time i suppose.

[teal lynx]

Sailing Artifact is the most usefull for sure. Island 9 Iirc

[paper sail]

Fairies slacking

[sacred verge]

how much time does it take to go from 10k to 100k plunder kills

[paper sail]

Whatever it took you to get to 10k.. 9 more of those

[fathom lagoon]

Averaging 220k secs of alch from CC at citringes and only have 1 bubble left finally (purple 25)

[sacred verge]

cant remember, lol

[paper sail]

I can't remember when I switched to my SB yesterday, maybe20 hours ago? and I've picked up ~15k

[fathom lagoon]

Plunder works afk?

[sacred verge]

ait ait

[sick sentinel]

on wurms its around 600-700 plunder/hr

ojs i got 735ish

[fathom lagoon]

Ah you meant when you switched to active sb

[paper sail]

That roughly lines up with what I saw

[sick sentinel]

yeah i havent actually timed it, but its around there a tad lower than oj

after i finish this vial i'll track it

[paper sail]

So then 90k plunder kills would be 123 - 150 hours, depending on your luck in that range of 600 up through 735 plunders per hour.

[sick sentinel]

i never actually paid attention to it, are crystal mobs dropping skullcoins?

[paper sail]

I don't think so

I'm wrong, just watched it happen. Yes, crystals drop coins.

[sick sentinel]

gotcha so i guess there is a little variance per player

[paper sail]

I am doubling active exp cards, not crystal cards, so my rate could be off too

[sick sentinel]

i was doing 1 and 1 os maybe

[paper sail]

IE and IT don't have a total quests completed per character listed anywhere, yeah?

Just the big full list of all possible quests

[sick sentinel]

doesnt look like it

[paper sail]

I can kinda vaguely guess based on the number of talent points I have assigned to Quest Chungus / Studious Quester lol

Getting everyone to 200+ quests completed before next sample day

[sick sentinel]

you no look here?

have to check each char tho

[paper sail]

Well yes but that requires checking each one individually

Needed it for the list

[sick sentinel]

damn final traps made the list

[paper sail]

😩

Something tells me the W6 traps are going to build out of them anyway, may as well right?

[sick sentinel]

i cba with the dungeon achieves, i will forever ignore those

would be hilarious if they didnt

[paper sail]

Good thing it is very low on the list lol

[sick sentinel]

busting out an ipad for trapping minigame?

[paper sail]

The only iPad I have is the one my wife uses for work and it is massive lol

Doubt it would be any better than mouse honestly

[sick sentinel]

thats the play right there, i wonder if a pen would help

idk i played it once and havent touched it again

also i dont have the mouse dexterity others do

[paper sail]

I don't think I can see my score anywhere for that easily..

But I believe my best was just shy of some reward and I should try again at some point

[sacred verge]

would u guys say its worth it to bring my SB to 100k plunder rather than farming with DK?

[sick sentinel]

you said you just hit 10k?

[sacred verge]

i get that this is very situational

nah i hit 10k plunder ages ago

[paper sail]

I wouldn't unless you also need active exp to hit 450 for Trophy

[sick sentinel]

yeah do it as a side progress thing

[sacred verge]

i do still need to lvl to 450 yeah

[plucky yarrow]

Just got 2 new salts bois

The Green and pink ones

[eager sedge]

Nice

Gl with the next

[heady torrent]

Ive got the artifact that increases printing speed qhen not sampling for some time, and before that i resampled about every other week, should i let the multiplier stack, or resample whenever i feel like i made enough progress

[paper sail]

Resample whenever you can muster the courage and motivation

It becomes such a chore after a while

[hot dove]

Who would be better for hampsters ES or DK?

[paper sail]

ES by a large margin

[hot dove]

Ok, thanks

[green eagle]

choppin is capped at 62/min right?

[sick sentinel]

and mining

[green eagle]

i always forget which

[opaque sun]

chop and mining speed capped at 62

[green eagle]

so no point in more than one boost food for samples once you reach 62

[opaque sun]

Catch and fish arent capped, at least within the current achievable speed

[paper sail]

Same with Chocco Box card and star sign

[opaque sun]

yea if 62 on chop and mine, no point of using more food/food bonus

well food bonus still a bit useful for HP snapshot of mining, but besides that no need to add more food bonus

[paper sail]

Snapshotting 🤮

[green eagle]

min maxing

[cerulean hemlock]

That's what the endgamers do

[green eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/frantic-ah-spongebob-chores-gif-4322909

actually doing it though

[sick sentinel]

resampling wasnt so bad skipping the ss

[dreamy rapids]

That's what it feels like taking Samples with taking EVERYTHING to account

[sick sentinel]

5/10 will do again

[cerulean hemlock]

Why only 5 arms?

we need 10, for each char

[sick sentinel]

cant wait for doot

[cerulean hemlock]

I have to wait 3 days

For some reason I'm days behind

[sick sentinel]

looks like i'll have doot sooner than you

[cerulean hemlock]

We all know doot isn't going to appear

I've had four triplicates

[umbral tapir]

I just joined late...62 what?

[sick sentinel]

i missed 2 days while on vacay a while back

[cerulean hemlock]

I'm ready to stab someone

[cerulean hemlock]

Vacation good

[sick sentinel]

and started a day late cause of vacay lol

[cerulean hemlock]

No one vacays anymore

[sick sentinel]

the speed

[green eagle]

the speed at which you are capped in certain skills

[cerulean hemlock]

Why only level 98?

I'm level 99 😛

Around... 100mil from 100?

[crude epoch]

newest journeyman class, do the speedrun portals reset when I do it again or should I skip ones I got the first time?

[cerulean hemlock]

*vman

[cerulean hemlock]

Yes, they reset

[green eagle]

why only 99? i'm 112

(queue the next person with higher skill level)

[crude epoch]

ok so its like a highscore system not like zow

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep

[umbral tapir]

See, I want something like this built into IE. Like "Hey, you should aim to do these things" and just a dashboard of "Next things to achieve"

[cerulean hemlock]

sigh 😦 Can't top the world

[sacred dove]

somehow i thought that this would work

[cerulean hemlock]

To-do checklist

[marble shuttle]

looks like its working to me?

[umbral tapir]

Yeah, but automated lol

[sacred dove]

sorry i mean the nothing afk at the fishing island in world 2?

[cerulean hemlock]

True

I am very hangry rn

I need to go make more homemade sushi sometime

[umbral tapir]

Who manages/owns IE and do they take suggestions?

[cerulean hemlock]

for the time being I'll go cook a margarita pizzaa

[cerulean hemlock]

Isn't it Mojoro?

Or no

[dreamy rapids]

Been a while since I made homemade sushi

[cerulean hemlock]

I think not

[umbral tapir]

I didn't think it was

[cerulean hemlock]

It's delish

[dreamy rapids]

The rice can be a bitch

It's all in the rice man

[cerulean hemlock]

Sticky rice best rice

but not for sushi ofc

[sick sentinel]

sludger i believe, tho idk if he stepped down. mojoro does IT

[cerulean hemlock]

Yeah sludger

[vale wadi]

almost got the vials in the rift, only thing got nothing yet to 13:P so now hard busy!!

what is your strategy for vials

[paper sail]

For Bubo money farming.. This gets me to 17.33x DR. Am I correct in wearing the 3 money cards after that, since I can't reach 19x DR with more DR cards?

[sick sentinel]

thats how i do

are you using money or drop rate gear

[cerulean hemlock]

baba gaga best card ❤️

( I know it isn't but bear with me)

[paper sail]

With my proper DR Sparkle, I can wear 1 more money card. I just use full Magma

[opaque sun]

if you cant reach the money dr breakpoint, yeah use money cards

[cerulean hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/damage-thats-a-lot-of-damage-jon-tron-gif-13054497

[paper sail]

not even T damage lol

[cerulean hemlock]

Dude I have 350mil

To me it's a lot

I don't hve auto loot

Only the rammy plush

[sick sentinel]

meant stuff like keychains/trophy

[cerulean hemlock]

to comfort me ❤️

[opaque sun]

thats a really good job for a non-auto-loot

[cerulean hemlock]

about my puny account

[cerulean hemlock]

Seriously or not?

[paper sail]

Ah. Uhhh lmao. %stat hat, %stat cape, Divine trophy, and then 2 of these identical donut chains

[cerulean hemlock]

If I get to 1B I will be very pleased

[opaque sun]

Serious as thats how big auto loot affects progress

[sick sentinel]

if you wear cape/fomo dr chains does that get you to 19? might be worth testing which would give better money

[cerulean hemlock]

Yeah I know that

[sick sentinel]

with doublers and such

[cerulean hemlock]

I meant were you serious 350mil was good for no autoloot

[opaque sun]

thats what i meant

[cerulean hemlock]

Oh wait it was 370mil

[paper sail]

It very well might. I am just only on Bubo long enough to CC and then they go back to AFK, so my fomo DR stuff is on the other active character. I am too lazy to swap

[opaque sun]

If you can even get to 1b as non auto loot, you can probably call yourself the non auto loot master. As not many non auto looter survives past that

[sick sentinel]

makes sense! didnt know if you were trying to minmax money on bubo long term

[cerulean hemlock]

Pray!

I got it! 😄

[paper sail]

I just wanted to make sure I was right in thinking DR breakpoints were better than money cards 👍

[opaque sun]

With no auto loot, you play a totally different game of SB being the main farmer

[cerulean hemlock]

And it's a stupid sushi that gives VIP membership.

[cerulean hemlock]

my SB is secondary, but I get it

[opaque sun]

DR break points are more impactful than say one or two money cards

[paper sail]

got it, thanks

[gray pagoda]

#💖future-content-blog message
Do y'all think the resources are going to be easy to get or no?

[green eagle]

my vman skills are all 🏎️ 💨 (except trapping )

[opaque sun]

Card and money equipment are additive to an older money bonus pool, so its less impact than face value

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep

[cerulean hemlock]

I know this speed is a problem but it's all I have

[paper sail]

I don't wanna go Mining

[opaque sun]

Its either going to be equinox versions of copper that you need to farm Ts

Or equinox tier resources that has no use but for equinox bonuses

[sick sentinel]

depends, there was some talk about possible challenges yesterday at least that some looked fairly easy and others looked harder. who knows if we use currency from those challenges to get the resources or we actually farm them

just a wait and see kind of deal

[cerulean hemlock]

Is this good or bad?

[paper sail]

It's good early, pointless late

[gray pagoda]

Oh, it's a tier of resources?

Do you think maybe we'll get godshard now then?

[marble shuttle]

I thought the rec was to push a new island only when you can do it in 12 hours or less, better off doing the 2 hour stuff and selling mats

[green eagle]

oh no..... another tier of resources

[cerulean hemlock]

Meh then useless

[opaque sun]

im more thinking of its like void zone for resources instead of mobs

[gray pagoda]

Woohoo, another tier of salts!!!!1!

[cerulean hemlock]

Yeah my RNG for sailors has been very bad

[opaque sun]

And maybe equinox zone have rotating skill nodes per week to farm Ts

[cerulean hemlock]

Also, has anyone tried gstacking boid salts?

Typing Boid gives nostalgia

[paper sail]

I've put the desire to greenstack anything out of my brain. If it happens by chance, neat.

[cerulean hemlock]

Me too 😄

[lapis mesa]

yall greenstacking quest farmables are crazy

[cerulean hemlock]

Also, rate my evilness on a scale of 1-10

[opaque sun]

greenstack salts are kind of easy now

[paper sail]

Some days I look in the bank and see +1 and think Nice. I'll never know what it was 🙂

[cerulean hemlock]

i'm the meanest dude in this server

[opaque sun]

People are aiming for 1b salt vials

[gray pagoda]

Wait, it says new resource, not new tier. I think this will give us entirely new resources, not an equinox form of current ones.

[marble shuttle]

the mustard and ketchup ones are relatively painless with high enough multikill

[cerulean hemlock]

Unless you stared at IE everyday

[opaque sun]

That still can be new resources

[cerulean hemlock]

That is if you didn't complete the quests

[sick sentinel]

doesnt mean it couldnt be a new tier

[opaque sun]

Like equinox copper, equinox iron, etc

You have no use of them in crafting, but counts for new vials and equinox objectives that uses same skill requirement of the normal copper and such

[gray pagoda]

Sorry, that was poorly worded. I meant a new tier of items that are brand new, not equinox versions of currently existing ones, like what Topbird is suggesting.

[rich robin]

out of the 2 places where is the best place to farm woodular circles

[cerulean hemlock]

We all know this ain't gonna happen, but we're still gonna downvote it

[cerulean hemlock]

Nutto

I mean do the math

[opaque sun]

Else it will be impossible to farm Ts of resources that are higher than dreadlo

[rich robin]

nutto dosen't drop woodular circles

[cerulean hemlock]

It doesn't? Hmm.. Sticks

I'm stupid

haven't farmed those in a year

I just hop in, candy, then leave

[opaque sun]

Like what im thinking is say equinox copper uses same efficiency requirement as normal copper, but cant be sampled.

[rich robin]

but wood mushroom have better dropchance? but worse spawnrate

[opaque sun]

ES active ignores any bad mob layout

[cerulean hemlock]

Correct.

[cerulean hemlock]

the small "stepping" platfroms are even better

a tornado wipes out 30 in seconds

[lapis mesa]

cant be sampled would be nice, then i dont have to stress which 3d slots im using

[gray pagoda]

That kind of defeats the purpose of the ore though tbh, having it require the same amount of efficiency. People will be able to max those vials in a few hours, regardless of they can print or not.

[feral wedge]

Any tips for crit chance?

[cerulean hemlock]

The two talent books

[gray pagoda]

Statue

[cerulean hemlock]

so more accurcy, stamps, statues

and alchemy ofc

[opaque sun]

Im thinking thats the whole point. Then you move to equi iron, and so on

[feral wedge]

Got it

[opaque sun]

Around when you reach equi dreadlo, its going to be a challenge to farm Trillions

[tacit tulip]

it's surprisingly easy to max crit chance now, you just need to know what you're looking for and manually hunt it

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep!

[cerulean hemlock]

Remember the panik before W5

[gray pagoda]

But if it's something you can complete within a few hours, what's the point?

[cerulean hemlock]

Fun ig

[opaque sun]

you wont be able to complete everything in an hour

[cerulean hemlock]

*few hours

I mean, can't you just use time candy?

[opaque sun]

Maybe the first few yes, but even end game will take time to do all of them to Ts

Depends where this equinox resource zone is

[gray pagoda]

By T's, do you mean tiers?

[opaque sun]

Trillions

[gray pagoda]

Oh

[opaque sun]

the cloud with a big T i assume trillions

[gray pagoda]

Why would you need trillions of a resource?

[lapis mesa]

showing off?

[opaque sun]

#💖future-content-blog message

[lapis mesa]

or maybe since its a later game thing, it probably requires later game set ups, so the T is a way to gate it

[gray pagoda]

I'm hoping Lava adds something that increases the max amount a slot in a chest can hold

[opaque sun]

lava made resources B to fight mobile overflow issue, but now that he figured that out, im assuming equinox will stack to like trillion or something

[stoic crow]

That would explain the T button

[quiet pewter]

i pity the fool that messes with the T button

[gray pagoda]

And I just happened to look next to the T, looks like that's the resources

[opaque sun]

getting billions of each resources isnt a challenge, but T is like a good challenge

especially without sampling, gives a reason for characters to actually skill on a node

[gray pagoda]

Is it though? What's the highest sample someone's ever gotten that you've seen?

[lapis mesa]

i can almost hourly click

[umbral tapir]

What trophy at 450? I don't see anything on the wiki about it?

[gray pagoda]

Kruk

[cerulean hemlock]

Which program did you use for this?

[opaque sun]

Like 2-3b on oak

[gray pagoda]

Oh, ok. I thought it was closer to 10b

[umbral tapir]

oooook, level REQ...I was think it triggered a trophy or something.

got it

[gray pagoda]

Oh, million?!

That's way less than I thought geez

[cerulean hemlock]

What's yours?

I only get 1mil with a one hour time candy

[opaque sun]

Sorry not sure why I fixed to m. B i meant

[cerulean hemlock]

OH

[gray pagoda]

Ok lol

[cerulean hemlock]

What's your score?

[opaque sun]

Mine is like 1.4b oak

[lavish cloak]

fun fact, you can cranium cooking, then log off the character, log back on when the cooldown is finished, and the bubo will keep the kills going to feed the current cranium cooking without using the new cooldown until the old buff runs out. probably not useful, but facts.

[gray pagoda]

So with the 8x prints we can get, along with Eldritch artifact that multiplies prints daily, along with Vman, is it really hard to get trillions?

[cerulean hemlock]

Wow! Mine is....800k?

[lavish cloak]

dafuq you mean 8x prints?

[sick sentinel]

6x haha

[gray pagoda]

4x with goat god, 2x with lab bonus

[sick sentinel]

3x from goat

[gray pagoda]

For a total of 8x

[opaque sun]

Hare and lab is 6x

Hare is triple

[gray pagoda]

Oh, is it? Mb.

[sick sentinel]

hare i mean

[gray pagoda]

I don't know which god is which lol

That's mb

[feral hemlock]

If u have doot u defo can, cause its 703x8

[sharp vine]

Not sure why you'd do this and not just active for faster resets

[lavish cloak]

about to stroke over here recalculating my hourly clicks

[lavish cloak]

hence my note at the end "probably not useful"

[lapis mesa]

i do not.. have 9 beans though.. think i can trade a few in? 😄

[muted slate]

3 rift slugs here

[gray pagoda]

Is the exp from sea salt island bugged? When I looked at my AFK info, it said I was getting around 2M exp per hour, but when using a 1 hour candy I only got 500K.

[sick sentinel]

mf cleaned shop so noone else could get em

[muted slate]

[opaque sun]

equinox may or may not be like the gmush lab bonus equivalent of copper/oak/goldfish/flies

Where you keep a dedicated specialist on it for a linear buff

[sick sentinel]

the afk screen for that island assumes you can catch all fish with 100% eff, so if you are under then yeah it is wrong

[gray pagoda]

Dang, that sucks. Thanks.

[opaque sun]

If equinox goldfish becomes like a gmush bonus, 2 BBs will be meta. May consider getting elite swap

[cerulean hemlock]

Lucky you. Exchange slugs for slimes,sand pots, moltis, bloques, or beans, and that's me.

[sick sentinel]

buy your swap in the shop now! before its gone again lol

[opaque sun]

yeah get them now just in case

[cerulean hemlock]

😄

[cerulean hemlock]

And slab, if you haven't gotten it yet

I spent 1.1k on the cape. Best purchase I ever made

Got the golden rose one!

+10% afk gain

[sick sentinel]

i got chiz

[cerulean hemlock]

+1 slab if you didn't get it yet

[sick sentinel]

gold rose is 13% afk btw

[gray pagoda]

Or even better, spend it on chips for lab! Lots of people get really lucky, and not at all scammed from that!

[sick sentinel]

prob best cape in the game, or tied with molten

[cerulean hemlock]

Yeah, still good

[cerulean hemlock]

I spent 2.5k balls. didn't get even a red reward

[gray pagoda]

I missed out on molten, unfortunately, so no DR for my DK (drop king)

[opaque sun]

#💖future-content-blog message

This really may mean copper/oak/goldfish/flies instead of a general resource types

[gray pagoda]

That's what I was thinking too. It could be either or though, no way of really telling.

[opaque sun]

And 4 additional vials are doable for lava

[gray pagoda]

I'll be excited no matter what it is tbh, vials are vials.

[opaque sun]

Adding new vials for all equinox resources gonna be too much pain for him

[paper sail]

Notepad++

[cerulean hemlock]

Ah! Now wonder

[gray pagoda]

That thing has 42% drop?! I gotta start doing some more Kruk...

[opaque sun]

And if equinox resources are non-printable, doot gains further value

no way a non-doot can afford 4 guys out farming resources

[umbral tapir]

Yeah, I would love this as a dashboard in IE. Like, "Goals" that are like, "next steps" that someone could plan for.

It would be pretty straight forward to pick out this without the need to store anything. LIke, no custom wishlists just..."Here are things you could aim for long term"

But it's a lot to ask, and someone subjective.

[cerulean hemlock]

#player-suggestions Would be excellent!

[umbral tapir]

That's for Idleon. This would be for IE. I'm already on Sludger's discord.

[paper sail]

Someone suggested a sorta-similar thing and it was downvoted to hell lol

[umbral tapir]

Within IE? Or within Idleon?

Within Idleon I would downvote it yeah

[cerulean hemlock]

OH

[opaque sun]

there was a bubble suggester i think

[cerulean hemlock]

Were they a copper bar? If so, that's why

[umbral tapir]

But IE is literally a tool that does all that. It would just mean consolidating the data already.

[umbral tapir]

IE? Sure! Idleon? Don't tell me what to do in my game!

[paper sail]

Yup. Basically, I just perform an IE review on myself 😂

[cerulean hemlock]

Downvote it you like 😄

[cerulean hemlock]

I did 5 IE reviews at 7am. Needless to say, I did not bode well.

[dreamy rapids]

I mean... but why?

Breeding seems like... it's kinda done

I guess more shiny bonuses

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep

[opaque sun]

w5 boss is out so its not a bad idea, but not like something to suggest as its something to be added on order

[cerulean hemlock]

There's going to be 3 more worlds

[opaque sun]

Its like suggesting to add w6

[dreamy rapids]

Also another super expansive Splicer gun

[cerulean hemlock]

I mean, usually people suggest things to speeden it up, or remind lava of it

[noble mesa]

I want w5 mini boss and colooo

[dreamy rapids]

I also want that

[opaque sun]

and with current bonuses, you probably wont even need to splice w5 mobs

[dreamy rapids]

Even with W4 being finished it still feels kinda empty compare to the past 3

[opaque sun]

More w5 pets more for raising the base exp gain for breeding

[paper sail]

1k breeding, the dream

[cerulean hemlock]

I want them NOW

An Octo miniboss would be sick though

[cerulean hemlock]

W3 is very full tbf

Construction is like 25 additions

[dreamy rapids]

W4 lack alternate map paths and secrets

[opaque sun]

Future content blog’s equinox background looks something similar to w3 rams background

[dreamy rapids]

And obviously NPC tokens

[paper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-silence-nose-gif-17895433

[cerulean hemlock]

We hate NPC tokens

[dreamy rapids]

We hate that?

[cerulean hemlock]

They're worse than.... YONDERGREEN

[cerulean hemlock]

We all hate it

[dreamy rapids]

It's free slab

[cerulean hemlock]

And free pain

[paper sail]

[dreamy rapids]

Heh

[opaque sun]

not counted all, but i might have misplaced one on a ground

[dreamy rapids]

Well I prefer NPC tokens over 100 N.Troll kills

6,000

Keys

[paper sail]

I mean we'd still do 6k keys

Just get a shitty token after it

[dreamy rapids]

Would we?

[cerulean hemlock]

Yesss no yondergreen!

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep

[paper sail]

Every other quest has worked like that. Why wouldn't it?

[cerulean hemlock]

I miss the times where there was the main "questline" noc

it taught you what you should do

[opaque sun]

Yondergreen, basically ransomware your shrine hours

[cerulean hemlock]

Now it's more like 5 quests

And BOOM! out to the world you go!

[dreamy rapids]

I honestly expected the Radish guy to be that

[cerulean hemlock]

Like the jokes improved

but

[dreamy rapids]

He is radish right?

[cerulean hemlock]

Everything else was a tad rushed

[cerulean hemlock]

A skinny sand giant.

[opaque sun]

Like no way im resetting my like year worth of shrines for yondergreen

[paper sail]

Too bad the main quests of w2 and w3 were both total shit

[dreamy rapids]

Ah yes the carpet quest

Absolute garbage

[cerulean hemlock]

True, but they're fun

Bake Him Away toys was a good reference to Toy Story 2

[dreamy rapids]

Fuck killing 750 enemies active

[cerulean hemlock]

They remind you of, well, what it'd be like

3 worlds later

but nerfed

[paper sail]

W1 had a good main quest

[cerulean hemlock]

it's like a vaccine

[cerulean hemlock]

i disagree.

[paper sail]

Except it bugs

[cerulean hemlock]

Scriptus should have said

Go kill 100 poops

As a meme

Like the first wood chopper

[paper sail]

This game is already confusing as shit

[dreamy rapids]

Is it?

[opaque sun]

“Be covered in shit 100 times”

[paper sail]

Main quests should have been guiding people, not confusing them

[paper sail]

For anyone not in the Discord to ask questions? Yes.

[dreamy rapids]

I think I was fine up until like W4

[opaque sun]

The current w5 rushable balance gives new players the wrong idea on how to play the game as they think its combat oriented game

[cerulean hemlock]

True

[paper sail]

Were you, though?

[dreamy rapids]

How dare you

I feel insulted and violated

[paper sail]

FUCKING WAIT

[paper sail]

You're under arrest

[dreamy rapids]

But you are right lol

[paper sail]

GLITTERBUG SOUNDS REALLY GOOD

[dreamy rapids]

Guess I forgot

[paper sail]

What the fuck

[cerulean hemlock]

These were my first words

[paper sail]

I feel like that was a very easy point to prove lmao

Nothing in this game is explained well. People rely on the Discord and Wiki to fill in the gaps

[cerulean hemlock]

bro I paniked so bad I started mistyping everything

[cerulean hemlock]

And my guide 😄

[dreamy rapids]

Well it could be worse

Idle skilling

Took me a while to understand how acolyte works

[glad crow]

Ay now im only missing doot

[paper sail]

I got my IS trophy and still didn't really get it lmao

[dreamy rapids]

I played it to also get the trophy

Until I realized i need steam

[cerulean hemlock]

I use web to play idleon.

[hybrid spindle]

is dk or es better for power statue farming at beans?

[paper sail]

DK with max crystal spawn chance and DR

[sick sentinel]

dk, cause crystals

[hybrid spindle]

why cause crystals?

what's that supposed to mean?

[paper sail]

Beans don't drop power statues naturally. The Crystal Carrots do.

[sick sentinel]

dk orb multiplies drops that are also in the crystal drop table. think of each 100 score on orb as another kills drop

[paper sail]

ES is terrible at spawning Crystal monsters because Wormhole enemies killed do not have a chance to spawn a crystal.

All that together make sense, I hope?

[void hawk]

what is MSA?

[cerulean hemlock]

The totem in construction

[sick sentinel]

miniature souls apparatus, its an extension for the souls totem in w3 town

[void hawk]

what totem?

[paper sail]

^specifically from Auto Arm

[untold saffron]

next to the automatic arm at the top of W3

[void hawk]

oh gotcha

[cerulean hemlock]

MSA is now the 2nd best auto arm buff

[sick sentinel]

what would be the first

i guess books yeah

[untold saffron]

https://gyazo.com/e07e1707c266a6bb74285e5abd662d0a

maybe if this didn't only exist to crush dreams it'd be higher on the list

[fast grail]

Lava says its working as intended

[opaque sun]

Its working perfectly if you only use one character like lava

[cerulean hemlock]

You forgot LavaFlame1

[hybrid spindle]

that sure is fun. I get like 3 levels a minute with my dk ^^

[raw tundra]

is there a god such that you run around free but connected to lab? from 10 characters to 6. feels sad

[paper sail]

The 2nd divinity, Bear / Arctis

[opaque sun]

or doot, the 11th hidden god

[cerulean hemlock]

That's after amarok, the 10th hidden god

[bold quiver]

He, for anyone with 2 barbarians, does chow work correctly on each one? (if i chow 2 times)

[hybrid spindle]

i get that doot thing but what are you talking about?

[cerulean hemlock]

🤦‍♂️ never mind then XD

[hybrid spindle]

don't brush me off, I need an answer 👀

[umbral tapir]

You need to do it on your second barb.

If you do both, you're fine.

[teal lynx]

Second Bard for Steam/Web
First Barb for Mobile

[void hawk]

what is totalizeer?

[teal lynx]

Take a look at the MSA :)

Basically this thing

[void hawk]

I can see it gives me 20% dmg

but what is it based off of?

[teal lynx]

Total Waves

[feral hemlock]

Max completed TD lvls

[teal lynx]

Every 10 Waves = 1 DMG I think

[opaque sun]

MSA just means TD highest wave masteries

[sudden halo]

I'm pushing my bubo through Citringes. Is Raise dead -> Auspicious Aura -> Flatulent spirit better

[void hawk]

got it guys

[sudden halo]

or should I be doing a different skill order

[sick sentinel]

Should be

Raise dead first gives more cc time so same for kph

[sudden halo]

Ok thanks! It felt like sometimes I wasn't casting AA much because Raise dead was on spam haha

[cerulean hemlock]

Did somebody say AAAAAA? 😉

[opaque sun]

if its casting raise dead, it means its getting enough kills pretty much

But repeated auras sometimes are redundant when cast upon another aura

[sudden halo]

Yea true, I guess if it couldn't cast raise dead then it would go to aura next anyway

[cerulean hemlock]

Meh, as long as you aren't standing still it's ok

[opaque sun]

Ultimately, raise first and aura first gives very close numbers so its whichever you want honestly

[hybrid spindle]

so what's the best order for dk?

if we're already on the subject

[opaque sun]

Non bubo doesnt care as much since they dont have crazy cooldown

[vale wadi]

why do you want to go higher in god rank, is it only exp?

[opaque sun]

like non bubo can get through their skills before the first one finishes cooldown

[cerulean hemlock]

ES damage I think

[opaque sun]

On bubo its an issue since the first skill comes back online real fast, so skills later in the order may never get used

ES damage talent is actually nice, just that current god ranks are too low (like 4 at most)

[bold quiver]

so does this mean that 1 of my barbarians wont have chow? so lower eff? ( not talking about super chow)

[opaque sun]

In the future when we get like 20-30 god ranks, that ES talent is going to be real good

[teal lynx]

Oh thought u meant super chow. Normal Chow should be fine

[bold quiver]

its cool then, yeah chow. SUper chow i knew that only worked on 1

[opaque sun]

Both BB counts normal chow fine

Its just the enhanced super chow is bugged

[bold quiver]

im planing on making 2 barb 2 squire on this acc of mine, to boost cooking. I dont rly like 2 SB at all, its so whatever (and since its a smurf acc i dont mind if it gets locked from future character

[vale wadi]

why should you go higher in god rank?

[opaque sun]

And there is a ver small possibility 2 bb may become meta with equinox

[teal lynx]

The first to get God Rank 1000 gets a free Doot from me

[opaque sun]

Like look at all the answers you got

[bold quiver]

yeah, we got 3 elite swap tokens on this rotation, it might mean something

[teal lynx]

No real reason for God Ranks except some XP and tiny tiny ES damage Talent

[vale wadi]

ow I dindnt read 😛

thanks

[opaque sun]

Its more of a byproduct of raising div levels for minor link

[cerulean hemlock]

Ohh yeah that too

[opaque sun]

You really dont raise god rank for the purpose of god ranks

For getting my guys to div lvl 130-150 on mindful, my god rank is 4 now

[cerulean hemlock]

Rash got lucky and got 2 ranks in a day

he's at 3 now

[opaque sun]

god rank 5 asking for 9000m so no way doing that with current available multipliers

[sterile jetty]

how long should i keep my chars in divinity ? until all gods ?

[cerulean hemlock]

Until goat.

[sterile jetty]

rn 9/10 are in divinity

[cerulean hemlock]

Then back in lab they go!

[sterile jetty]

okey

[opaque sun]

Which basically means lab turns into divinity

[sacred verge]

what is this equinox? do we have any information on it?

[sterile jetty]

i got the 100% sacrifice i guess i should keep waiting for the next 60hours to get it or ?

[marble shuttle]

only whats here https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/438216759120756737

[sacred verge]

alright, just figured maybe the was something else going around as 2 BB may become meta

[opaque sun]

its all just speculation

[sacred verge]

it could be said for every class then i guess

[crude epoch]

rift 6, I am not sure what its asking me to do here. I know if I let my character kill stuff on auto the number sometimes goes up very slowly

[opaque sun]

But if say equinox cannot be sampled, and need a specialist to fish, you kind of need 2 bb

One to cook while one fishes

[dapper prism]

Do we.. buy them? 😦

[sacred verge]

ahh is it fishing stuff then?

[opaque sun]

Will you already should have 2sb

[bold quiver]

gotta hoard them

[opaque sun]

And should have more than enough miners and choppers

[spring raptor]

I would assume that has to do with the skull leveling mechanic in some of the other rifts? Dunno though

[dapper prism]

Like. I don't want to waste gems but also don't want to miss out on something important :/

[bold quiver]

i'd keep at least 3 elite swap tokens saved. cuz thats how many extra classes we have

[dapper prism]

@opaque sun whats your take on this ^

It's tempting

[bold quiver]

everything above 3 elite tokens is extra

[dapper prism]

I have 0 atm

[opaque sun]

blue gems are pretty much farmable resource

[bold quiver]

definetly grab 3 bro

[crude epoch]

OHH I see some of the mobs have a tiny skull on them. yeah its just slow

[opaque sun]

Just treat blue gems as rare mats that can be farmed from kattle

[bold quiver]

yeah blue gems are basicaly infinite

[sacred verge]

time consuming tho

[dreamy rapids]

If you are patient ebough

[opaque sun]

As with any other rare mats

[bold quiver]

like we are not talking about farming 20 thousaand 50 thousand gems tho, its only afew '.'

[dapper prism]

But... cant use gems if you want to greenstack them 😦
https://i.imgur.com/gxMZ3K7.png

[bold quiver]

every run on chizoar takes 10,5 seconds (or 10,3

[opaque sun]

its actually easier to farm than say orange juices and hampters

[sacred verge]

easier to drop, much more effort to farm

[bold quiver]

did u already finished buying whole shop? 😮

[opaque sun]

teach little brother to click every 11 sec. he can learn with his muscle memory

[sacred verge]

lol

[bold quiver]

will be clicking i his sleep

what if u develop some sort of device with counterweight to drop and hit the mouse every 11 seconds?

its that considered cheating?

[cerulean hemlock]

👍 So hampters sell for 2 gems?

[dreamy rapids]

Or use auto clicker

[cerulean hemlock]

did somebody say unpaid intern?

[cerulean hemlock]

That's banned

[dreamy rapids]

Really?

[bold quiver]

can only use human autoclicker (aka little brother)