lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[autumn wasp]

MK doesnt affect statues btw

[hardy quarry]

W3 statues are supposed to take a few days. Unless you're in the trillions.

Conversely, just come back for them later.

[sacred verge]

Es is only best for active farming the statues

[surreal oxide]

this is what ive been told a number of times on this channel too

[sacred verge]

And thats how it is😁

[surreal oxide]

so daln can you help me with this q

this one

[sacred verge]

Probably as long as u oneshot the mobs with it

I would 100% use it

[surreal oxide]

ok nice

[grizzled elk]

I was just going off the info that was going around when onyx first came around, my bad

[surreal oxide]

no youre good. good to explore i genuinely am unsure too lol

[signal osprey]

[sacred verge]

The info has allways been es for active vman for candy

[grizzled elk]

well maybe I'm illiterate then lol

[sacred verge]

Lol np

You just tried to help😜

[autumn wasp]

wtf

[surreal oxide]

that hurts

[sacred verge]

Also its 100% worth it to candy the statues. Take it from someone who wasted like 1 week farming them active on es

[pale jay]

Those hours were clearly used to pray for Doot

[autumn wasp]

didnt work

[sacred verge]

U ment pay?

[autumn wasp]

got another molti

[sacred verge]

About 7 hours of transactions for doot sound right

[near mist]

Why cant I click claim

[autumn wasp]

do u have 1 already?

[signal osprey]

You probably have it lol

[glacial venture]

already got the node

its a node

not a chip

[near mist]

I dont have it yet

[glacial venture]

go check in lab

[near mist]

I have mealcooking = x times faster

and animal farm gives more damage

but not the bolster one

[near mist]

Huh

But what is the bolster thing?

[glacial venture]

bolster=improves

[signal osprey]

Bolster means to make something stronger or better

Its the animal farm buff one

[near mist]

I thought i meant active while not equipped

[pine yacht]

how in the flying fuck did u come to that conclusion...?

[near mist]

idk must have confused with something else

not my main language

[paper sail]

389/416m for 210 multitool Slow and steady, I guess

[autumn wasp]

how to get 500 on BB and BM? is it all GT?

[paper sail]

Most of combat levels are GT, yes

At least I got an easy shimmer trial again

[signal osprey]

I got giant kills

Again

[paper sail]

I didn't remember to turn in my giant kills or guild gp

Hate the ones I can't just.. do

[signal osprey]

I've gotten beginner dps and giant kills twice each now

Shits rigged

[dreamy rapids]

Meanwhile I get Beginner DPS

[pastel bramble]

What's the max talent level achievable without big p bubble, around 318?

[dreamy rapids]

Which talent?

[pastel bramble]

All

Like my wizard max is currently 311

But he has some symbol levels left to do

Which would probably push me to 313ish

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure 311 is cap for non ES

ES can get a few extra levels from family guy

[dreamy rapids]

Let's see

[pastel bramble]

Yh so I guess I'm capped then lol

[dreamy rapids]

I don't remember

[surreal oxide]

any tips for vial farming, is it just putting ES on the monster material guys and active it?

[sick sentinel]

Vman speedrun printing the ones he can get to, otherwise es on the ones that cant be reached

[surreal oxide]

hmmm for some reason when i vman void run print, its less than no void run

am i doing somethign worng

[sick sentinel]

You need to kill the bosses for bossing vain talent, and pop the aoe talent for the mk boost then sample while its active

[surreal oxide]

i c

bosses is what i missed then

[sick sentinel]

Max out your afk and respawn like normal

[signal osprey]

And don't push your luck trying to get an extra boss if its gonna take too long

Making sure you have the void radius buff is like 75% of your sample so you have to allow time for its cool down

[pastel bramble]

anyone of u got to w4 boss yet on ur void run? i havent attempted one since like 2 week after it first came out 😂

[signal osprey]

The bosses are nice but they're very small in comparison to void radius

[sick sentinel]

You can cheese w4 boss

Start in the troll room, toss coin, pop run before the coin lands and kills troll

I dont think anyone has gotten there naturally

[pastel bramble]

but have u actually got to troll room via cleaning w4 doors

ok thats what i wanted to know 😄

[surreal oxide]

dang

[pastel bramble]

to see if ti was possible lol

nice to know i can get extra 3 portals from that coin trick though

[signal osprey]

Its definitely possible just probably not worth it

[autumn wasp]

does the troll have to be alive before you pop run?

[sick sentinel]

Thats how i was told

[signal osprey]

I would assume so as your speedrun counts kills you get during the run

Wouldn't make sense if you could go kill stuff before you even start and have it count

[autumn wasp]

So i guess it wouldnt work if my coin cant 1 shot the troll

[sick sentinel]

Can at least do a lower tier boss if u can do those

[paper sail]

Do any DR increases matter for keys and gems from bosses, or are they set % based on the merit only?

[sick sentinel]

I assumed it was jusy on the merit, but who knows

[dreamy rapids]

I just fucking lost 600M thread because I accidentally turned the atom to 15M

FUCK

[paper sail]

[sick sentinel]

Gotta turn off the collider lol

[paper sail]

1050m and OFF, always

[dreamy rapids]

Thread is fucking hell to grind

Now I need to do it all over again

[green eagle]

i said that about thread, then i started doing nails. not too bad there either, just a lot slower

[dreamy rapids]

It took long ass time to even get to that number of thread

I guess I know to what focus on now

[green eagle]

you buy all your anvil production points yet?

[dreamy rapids]

Yes on SB at least

[green eagle]

does your SB have anvil bubble on?

[dreamy rapids]

Yes 20M

So now I will focus on getting the bubble as high as I can

[green eagle]

that's good. you could get your 600m thread back in an hour of claiming candy if you really want to just grind it

[sacred cosmos]

Hold up, I thought the max was 10? How tf did you get a multiplier?

[green eagle]

just make sure you check the anvil in quick ref and claim every few candy claims

[clear topaz]

I've had rotten luck with mutation in Gaming, and it takes forever to collect DNA. Twice I spent when it was at 50% and got nothing. So at what % is the best to try for a mutation? I only have four mutations as of right now

[green eagle]

max is definitely not 10

[green eagle]

you poor soul, 50% is still when getting new plants is easy lmao

[sacred cosmos]

Coulda sworn the wiki said 10 was max

But hey, no complaints here

Just surprise

[green eagle]

nope, i got 12 last week for mage dps check

[paper sail]

40 is the max currently. Nothing special, just get a bigger number.

[green eagle]

and 11 the week before

[sacred cosmos]

Good to know, cheers!

Just gotta get good I guess

[dense prism]

what is a good DR to start farming for onyx statues ?

[vapid jay]

Asking all chats anyone want an active late game player in the guild just left my one I started cause it was getting no where

[dreamy rapids]

So if my atom is off and I get over 1B I will still get atoms?

[paper sail]

1050m ON is the same as <anything> and off

[dreamy rapids]

Sigh......

Should've known that

Now I need to freaking grind everything all over again

Guess just in time to ressample

[coarse parrot]

Quick rift question, how do the boss enemies heal? Are they tracking the number of actions against them, or is it a timer? I noticed they are healing super fast against my BB, and I'm curious if thats because I'm using the Shout and Fired Up

[balmy cobalt]

should be pretty easy to test no?

[paper sail]

Shout does heal enemies, so that's part of it

[noble aspen]

this is starting to be a bit annoying gotta say

[plucky yarrow]

I do 2.5 millions damage in world 5 is that low?

The tick means yes or no lol

[paper sail]

2.5m damage was low in W4

Very low in W5

[plucky yarrow]

🥲

Shit

How do i boost It?

[noble aspen]

you are hereby sentanced to alchemy

[paper sail]

That's okay though. Reaching W5 is great as Sailing, Divinity, and Gaming are all available right in town! Take the time to stop, go back to previous worlds, and catch up on content you skipped by

[plucky yarrow]

I hate alchemy so much maaan

[paper sail]

Alchemy is like 95% of your progress in this game

[plucky yarrow]

😭😭😭😭

Ok ok

[noble aspen]

its literally going to be 95% of your damage at least

[plucky yarrow]

Gotta do alchemy

[gray pagoda]

Hold up, why is Lava not in the members list?

[plucky yarrow]

Im so lazy to do that lol

[paper sail]

Man closes Discord sometimes, call the police

[plucky yarrow]

Idk

[gray pagoda]

Oh, ok. I didn't realize it only showed if he was online lol.

[noble aspen]

bubbles like then tend to add a lot of damage

[plucky yarrow]

I see

[gray pagoda]

I currently only have trithree unlocked, but I don't have the last island. Been working on sailing for a bit, but my luck isn't great.

[noble aspen]

and thats not exactly at a high level yet

[plucky yarrow]

I need to lvl Up almost everything in world 4

[gray pagoda]

Yeah, I've seen what happens when you get trithree after hitting 10K wisdom on ES. Insane power boost.

[plucky yarrow]

I rushed to world 5 with my main character so

[gray pagoda]

Don't forget to do lab. I know it seems annoying, but just keep the game closed for a few days, only logging in to do daily stuff, like buying silver trinkets from forest shop.

[noble aspen]

not exactly a bad play to get the next world unlocked

lets you start off gaming and sailing earlier to get more gains from them

[plucky yarrow]

I got the 2 Divinity so lab is always active

[gray pagoda]

It's a very bad play. It keeps you locked out of super important content in the next world. Trust me, I know, I was one of the people who rushed to W5 and was deadlocked for weeks.

[gray pagoda]

Yeah, but are your lab levels good?

[plucky yarrow]

I dont think i should lvl Up lab i am pretty good there i got everything until the X2 stamp thing

[gray pagoda]

That's... really bad, ngl. I've reached the vial bonus, and I'M way behind.

[plucky yarrow]

Almost all characters 125-165 i think

[gray pagoda]

Oh, ok. Sorry, misunderstood.

I thought you meant you could only reach the stamp bonus lol.

I am working on lab rn though. That and fishing for Vman.

[scenic locust]

Is there actually no bonus to upgrading the pong controller?

[plucky yarrow]

Im 125 px in each

[teal lynx]

No bonus to Pong unfortunately

[paper sail]

125px and level 125 are very different 😂 I was like damn, were you AFK for a year in lab?

[plucky yarrow]

Lol

Srry i dont speak english very well

[gray pagoda]

That's... not what you said earlier lol.

[plucky yarrow]

Lol srry

[gray pagoda]

Ah, ok. Don't worry about it.

[plucky yarrow]

Should i lvl Up lab then?

[gray pagoda]

Basically just focus on lab until you have all the bonuses unlocked. After that... @paper sail , this next parts on you lol. Idk much about lab.

[teal lynx]

8 People should do Divinity up to Goharut, Vman Skilling to reach number 1 everywhere and last active character can farm stuff, for example for Alchemy

[plucky yarrow]

Is maxing out lab worth It?

[gray pagoda]

Oh, don't forget to do chips and jewels

[paper sail]

If you're already in W5, the better play is to actually focus on Divinity first. The .. 4th or 5th, I can't remember, divinity that you unlock is the Goat. While linked to Goat, you can then go back to Lab and get exp for both Lab and Divinity at the same time.

[plucky yarrow]

Like for damage

[plucky yarrow]

I dont got jewels but i see some of them and they look useless to me

[gray pagoda]

Don't focus on purely damage. There really isn't anything you should "focus" on in IdleOn (except maybe alch)

[gray pagoda]

Jewels are pretty essential

[plucky yarrow]

Working on that rn

[plucky yarrow]

What do i Focus then?

[gray pagoda]

Everything. IdleOn is a pretty overwhelming game lol. You get used to the things you should focus on in W1, and W2 introduces 20 more things.

[plucky yarrow]

Definetly

[teal lynx]

Everything, Alchemy, Stamps, Construction, Lab, Breeding, Cooking, Gear, Greenstacks (a mechanic in Lab), Statues. Alot of things you can do

[plucky yarrow]

I feel like i need to lvl Up so much

[gray pagoda]

The problem is that people always focus on damage and pushing to the next world. That's partially on Lava, seeing as there's too much content in W1 that people are pushed into for them to get used to it. So, they ignore some things... and then carry that over to some of the most essential things in the next worlds.

[paper sail]

It just takes time. Don't stress too much. The game wants you to play for years, not weeks or months.

[green eagle]

WTB "dump all" investment option for this box specifically... started at 25k boxes to put in, takes way too long because of the lag they start to create

[plucky yarrow]

Im good with stamps atleast i think so but lab alchemy and cards are pretty low

[plucky yarrow]

I dont even got crates 😭😭😭

[teal lynx]

I do 1000 at a time. Then close the Window and repeat

[gray pagoda]

If you don't have an account on IdleOn Efficiency, get one, post it here. People will help you out.

[noble aspen]

he just needs an animation of a big box for the 100, not 100 small boxes

[green eagle]

you never stop stamping, or alchemizing

[plucky yarrow]

Ok gonna do that rn

[gray pagoda]

Ok, THAT'S insane. HOW are you in W5 without crates??

[green eagle]

yep, still slow process

[plucky yarrow]

I got boxes but not crates

[teal lynx]

Faster than waiting for Lag to disappear for me ^^

[green eagle]

OR, now here me out, OR he just lets me dump all of them with no animation needed

[gray pagoda]

Put something in #player-suggestions for Lava to give us an option to get rid of the boxes or something like that.

[teal lynx]

Ain't there a suggestion tab somewhere? Might be worth posting

[noble aspen]

whoa there we can't be bypassing animations here, people might be able to do pet arena successfully

[plucky yarrow]

The thing is i started playing 2.5 years ago and i deleted the Game with 1 character farming mushrooms so when i logged back in 1 year later i was op af and rushed to world 3

[timid panther]

No animation is the way to go.

[gray pagoda]

Farming mushrooms doesn't really make you op at that point...

[green eagle]

i would, but it would be greeted with as it has been suggested since he put post office in the game i think lol

[plucky yarrow]

I mean idk how many levels i got but i rushed to world 3 pretty easy

[paper sail]

Let's make a point to not bully the new people, thanks.

[pale otter]

It does

[green eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/bullying-bully-gif-25237232

[noble aspen]

i do wish there were a faster way to use pen nibs too

[plucky yarrow]

How to got crates?. lol this is strange to ask in world 5

[terse furnace]

Is the "No more Praying" bonus from gaming worth running at any point or does it only become useful after some threshold?

[noble aspen]

i could make so much more progress on post office if i wasn't trying to avoid carple tunnel

[terse furnace]

There are a variety of achievements/unlocks that give you a crate

[paper sail]

Unfortunately, it is 100% useless as of this patch. Giving up 80% of prayers you want is never worth gaining 20% of prayers you don't care about.

[terse furnace]

ah, understandable. Did something change this patch?

I thought maybe the no curse part made it worth

[paper sail]

Nope, just saying that it MIGHT become useful in the future. It has been useless since its release.

[plucky yarrow]

Ok, but i mean like unlock it

[terse furnace]

I am confused by your question. Colosseum unlocks hidden crates in the 2nd tab

[opaque sun]

no prayer is only useful if you can get 90% sample rate without using royal sampler, and even then useful only on ES farming to use the partial midas

[terse furnace]

ahhh ok, ty

[terse furnace]

Are you asking how to open the 2nd tab? Im pretty sure you need to have all 6 delivery slots unlocked

[plucky yarrow]

https://www.idleonefficiency.com/

[plucky yarrow]

Oh

I see

[terse furnace]

Thats not your link thats just the link to the site

[plucky yarrow]

Uh lol

[teal lynx]

Top right of the site

On Public Profile you can click "Upload"

And then the Yellow link. Whatever yours is

[plucky yarrow]

Aha

https://sergi0.idleonefficiency.com/

There

Im ready to be criticed

[terse furnace]

How did you even get to world 5

[plucky yarrow]

HAHAHAHAHAHHA

I wonder that too

[past grove]

WHAT 😖

[terse furnace]

You need to roll for pets, its free and you don't have any

[past grove]

I took forever to get to W5 and my stuff wasn't even half that bad

[terse furnace]

I was like 130 across the board lol

[past grove]

IE doesnt update that part

[terse furnace]

oh ok

[zinc torrent]

make another acc this one is 🫠

[teal lynx]

Yeah there is a lot of Improvement. Stamps, Fill the Forge, Alchemy Bubble and Vial unlocks, Don't auto refine Red Salts, Better prints, actual traps for your Characters. And those are only the basics of the first 3 Worlds, basically everything in earlier worlds needs work

[past grove]

130 in what? I outdamage you while being level 100 seeing your stamps

[terse furnace]

Youre not looking at my IE

lvl 130 on all chars

[past grove]

oh oops

Flamed the wrong dude lol

[plucky yarrow]

I got the divinities one

[terse furnace]

brb kms

[fast verge]

when should i start encourge

[past grove]

Did you ever click on the corgi in world 1?

[terse furnace]

They're saying they have Doot

[plucky yarrow]

Yes

I mean

[teal lynx]

IE doesn't show pets on other profiles

[zinc torrent]

lvl 15/20+ i guess

[plucky yarrow]

Idk how to say this wait im going to Google traductor

[past grove]

I read over half of this wow

[plucky yarrow]

I have the pet that makes all the divinities active

[plucky yarrow]

Yes

[terse furnace]

Man I just tried to type up an ordered list of how to improve your account, and It would be longer than the last college essay I just submitted

[teal lynx]

Me everytime I look at someones IE

[vagrant mountain]

damn

[plucky yarrow]

Is It THAT bad i mean i know i was rlly bad in my account but this is a whole new level

[terse furnace]

I would say keep doing what youre doing right this second with the characters in divinity until you get the Goat god. Afterwards move 3 chars into your lab then start leveling and skilling people

[plucky yarrow]

Ok

[terse furnace]

Its not even that its bad, its just that there are a lot of things you can do to quickly improve ur acc

[teal lynx]

First step with Doot. Put all your guys back into Lab instead of Divinity

[autumn wasp]

these are my rates for 18.3x DR if u wanna compare

[teal lynx]

They have Doot. Goat is already active

[past grove]

I would advise the next things since they are the easiest:

• Get all gold statues
• Have your last 3 chars produce more stuff in anvil since you have hammers inactive
• Unluck some w1-w4 stamps from piggy quests

[plucky yarrow]

Atleast u can say im the worst account u ever seen👍

[terse furnace]

Wait, Doot lets you activate gods that you don't have unlocked?

[plucky yarrow]

Nope

[teal lynx]

When People reach level 2 Divinity on those respective Characters

[terse furnace]

Thats insane

[plucky yarrow]

Ok im gonna work on that

[paper sail]

Vman or no?

[autumn wasp]

vman

[past grove]

Seeing as you got 1 void coin you can just do that right now lol

[terse furnace]

I would also work on unlocking the Trapper drone in Construction

All your chars have level 1 traps and drone will make that skill MUCH more afk

[past grove]

Never auto-refine red salts btw. You want that as high as possible

[plucky yarrow]

Why?

[terse furnace]

There is also a chart pinned to the W3-W4 channel that shows what levels you want the refineries so that they always run

Red salt will bottleneck your construction salts

[past grove]

More levels = more salts generated per min

[terse furnace]

the higher level it is the better

[noble aspen]

because you want it to run as fast as possible at all times

[teal lynx]

Are we 100% sure they have Doot?
Prints don't seem to be boosted, even tho all characters are atleast lvl 2 Div
Or does IE not show that on other Profiles?

[near coral]

I feel like I remember seeing that even if you had doot, at least one character needs to still be linked to a specific god for some type of bonus. Is that true and if so does anyone know which god it needs to be?

[past grove]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message
This is the levels you want to aim for

[teal lynx]

Tiger, Purmepp (Something along those lines)

[near coral]

ty 🙂

[past grove]

Don't bork your second salt btw. That will be annoying

[slate cloud]

Is there a way to stop the miles from spawning for the kattlekruk boss I'm trying to beat him on nightmare with a maestro for the merit any tips or I'm a just sol.

[noble aspen]

sol

[past grove]

It should show a different color yeah. Maybe no one is linked?

[plucky yarrow]

I need salt for that im kinda bad on refinery

[terse furnace]

You're not far enough into construction that youre fucked tbh. You can fix it pretty easily using that chart

Once your red salt is the right level then level the salts below it until you need to red salt again

[plucky yarrow]

Whats bork

[teal lynx]

There is a guide in Pins. Basically you want to use whip and maybe coins. And hit Kattle when Moles don't spawn

[terse furnace]

Your problem is going to be that you need better samples to keep it running, which will involve more skilling and levels on your chars

[paper sail]

You can't flat out stop the spawns, no. That's the entire challenge. There is a video in the pins that goes over strategy, but tl;dr you spend 99% of your time fighting the moles until your Void Radius is up. Fight boss until moles are near, pop Void Radius, punch boss a few times, then back to moles.

[past grove]

More polite way of saying fucked

[plucky yarrow]

Brutal

[terse furnace]

Also, once youve got all the gods active rotate getting everyone to their final job advance

[slate cloud]

Thanks everyone

[paper sail]

Yup. If you're under like 40b damage, I wouldn't try Nightmare Kruk yet on Vman

[plucky yarrow]

Im trying to get all the elite classes i can

[terse furnace]

Your lab bonuses will be WAY more useful that I think you realize tbh

[plucky yarrow]

Also is my build for the 1st Hunter good?

[autumn wasp]

u have more than 1 hunter?

[plucky yarrow]

Yes

[vagrant mountain]

guess I just have to check everything

[plucky yarrow]

I got one to trapping and one to lvl up

[past grove]

My advice would be to stay in divinity till you get the goat, then put all chars in lab except for 1 or 2 to level to level 100 (what I liked, don't know why tbh) and get the last elite classes.

[terse furnace]

I agree

Rotate getting combat levels over skilling levels for now

youll be able to get combat levels EASILY with how far you are

just put them on the highest map they can farm without dying and youll get insane XP

[past grove]

second this. Once you get automated arm level 1 you can just leave the chars in world 5 node 1 without dying

Get automated arm and skilling drone asap too lol

[static zinc]

is there a guide on vman damage tallents?

[terse furnace]

Auto arm will refill food for you, literal game changer

[static zinc]

for like speed run

[terse furnace]

You'll max them all pretty quickly tbh

[past grove]

Another example why I am utterly amazed the dude got to W5

[static zinc]

pain

[past grove]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml I like this one

[terse furnace]

You want to put 1 point into the first 2 skills first, then try and max the time you spend in speed run. Then max the AOE damage skill that gives bonus multi kill, then max the 3rd skill that gives respawn rate for boss kills, then max the 2nd to last ability that gives multikill per tier

Wait, 2 DK?

[teal lynx]

4 Warriors

Especially with the double BB bug

[terse furnace]

?

[terse furnace]

Can you post your IE btw? Im curious what later game W5 accs look like

[teal lynx]

Super Chows only count for second warrior on PC and first Warrior on Phones

[terse furnace]

Wait is that real?

[dreamy rapids]

Bruh

[terse furnace]

Ive been leveling cooking on my first BB...

and I play on PC

[teal lynx]

https://xayayah.idleonefficiency.com
Still got a lot to improve on

[terse furnace]

NW I just want some perspective

[paper sail]

Griffy touts that shit, so any blahblaharmy person does the same. Hate it.

[teal lynx]

Super Chows is 100m kills on a mob. So leveling cooking is totally okay on every BB

[terse furnace]

yeah Ik im farming chows on my first BB rn

[teal lynx]

It's okay. All those People will just be further away from Endgame (and us). We stay superior

[teal lynx]

You could always swap your second BB to a DK. More Construction gains, Refinery Skill etc

[tall horizon]

Seeing a lot more of that, like his bubble guides that are very misleading

[terse furnace]

I made it because everyone was saying fishing was too slow, but now with the new island it seems pretty fast...

[teal lynx]

I also swapped my BB to a DK. But this was like 4-6 Months ago

Never regretted that decision

[paper sail]

I made the swap when #8 was still a Barb, thankfully lol

[rough wasp]

4 warriors best meta

[paper sail]

Didn't need to wait a year on the elite swap tokens to exist to fix it

[sick sentinel]

4 wars doest seem so bad

dont rly need another archer

[paper sail]

It depends on new character slots becoming available or not

[fading cape]

the 4th warrior is another BB for fishing? Or a third divine knight?

[sick sentinel]

another bb

[paper sail]

If we get 3 new unique tab4 elite classes (without any new slots), having only 2 archers is a full lockout

[sick sentinel]

yeah we dont know about future classes/chars

full class resets would pop up if that happened

same reason we got elite class swaps

[paper sail]

Hella late though

[fading cape]

eventually

[sick sentinel]

it got sparked cause of rift challenges

so if we have somehting like that in the future then it will come

[rough wasp]

2 VMan meta where

[misty spindle]

Im having really bad lag when going for 200 wave, I was using this comp, except for the defender which I swapped with eggshell, any advice?

[paper sail]

Eggshell will fail more often than Defender 😦

[sick sentinel]

dont swap defender for eggshell lol, with that comp defender makes it invincible

u can manually do baduum stacks to lessen a bit of lag

[misty spindle]

can you make only some pets auto?

I only saw the button for all of them

[misty spindle]

thank you I will not

[sick sentinel]

before the fight you need to click on the ability icons to turn them off

[paper sail]

You can turn off the burger auto too

[misty spindle]

but that just puts my pet away

[sick sentinel]

do the bottom half

[misty spindle]

I see okay

[sick sentinel]

or was it upper

[fading cape]

honestly, I never figured it out

[misty spindle]

and this comp will work right? I have pets up to 15k, how long is it going to take aproximetly

[sick sentinel]

its either or, been a while since i used it

[fading cape]

I tried doing exactly what I saw on youtube channels for starting without auto and turning on auto, and it just never worked for me.

[cerulean hemlock]

Tallest mob in-game

[sick sentinel]

do you have alchemic unlocked? the popsicle in w3

[fading cape]

those frogs are going for the secret achieve

[misty spindle]

its the next one I need to unlock, why

[sick sentinel]

if you have that, it can kill your pets in from of looter which helps reduce lag

[vagrant mountain]

[sick sentinel]

so that comp would be rattler, shield, refiller, looter, whale, borgar

[misty spindle]

it can "kill my pets"?

[sick sentinel]

you would still be fine to finish it when they die off

yeah it converts attacks and shields into miasma skulls

its good trust

[misty spindle]

damn dude

I didnt really want to farm more eggs and dna

but fuck it

[sick sentinel]

its not absolutely necessary, but if you cant finish the fight can always try to get that

[vagrant mountain]

!!!

[rough wasp]

Snail is too op

[vagrant mountain]

hi ducky

i did it

[rough wasp]

hi snail

[misty spindle]

Can someone explain how does chem cycling work? I heard you can do it infinetly but Im unable to get more chems after using my first one

[vagrant mountain]

[rough wasp]

Is that ruby cards

[vagrant mountain]

yeah with both card doublers

[clear quartz]

oh man, i want ruby 😮

[vagrant mountain]

the hard part is leveling up shrine

[clear quartz]

ah yeah, shrine is gonna be a pita

[vagrant mountain]

mmm pita

[clear quartz]

maybe i should start working on more of the non-wizard towers again, ive been neglectful since im not super close to my next construction mastery milestone

[vagrant mountain]

i just level up whatever is closest for construction levels

[rough wasp]

I’m 1:39

[vagrant mountain]

you dont have choco chip so it doesnt matter tbh

[rough wasp]

One day I’ll get it

[clear quartz]

choco rip

[rough wasp]

It will be next week Copium

[clear quartz]

day after chrimbus

[vagrant mountain]

heh

Dec 27

[clear quartz]

oh 27

[vagrant mountain]

very soon

[rough wasp]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1141814324311097424/1157375267426283552/image.png?ex=65186136&is=65170fb6&hm=725ff9143764ddd75c001a29222f9b39a80a1aaddf0c78cc947449cab6c8a92e&

[vagrant mountain]

[clear quartz]

would be funny if after it spawns in shop normally you gamba and get 2 more

[rough wasp]

surely I hit it next week

[vagrant mountain]

surely

only a matter of time

i think I got mine on 5th week

or no it was 4th week

it was like #27

[rough wasp]

I think I’m past 4 weeks

[fading cape]

I just want the top left card booster and the pendant doubler.

[bold quiver]

if u have 2 barbarians, is it only superchow that only works on second? or also chow

[fading cape]

I've been gambling so very long

[bold quiver]

each barb has to chow its own thing?

[vagrant mountain]

idk

[fading cape]

honestly never heard about regular chow either way

[vagrant mountain]

imagine making 2 barb

[fading cape]

lots of people do

[rough wasp]

I feel attacked

[terse furnace]

Make them post their IE so you can justify your own superiority

[swift pecan]

I had 2 barbs

[slate cloud]

@paper sail yeah I got about 70b on my vman just was hoping there was a easier way to do it since.my vman is the 7th character in my lineup

[paper sail]

Nope, just suffering 😭

Took me 15-20 minutes at 40b, so hopefully only like 7-15 minutes for you at 70b

I am finally out the other side, where I can just auto and win. I've heard claims that was around 200b but I didn't try again until about 500b

[rough wasp]

I like snail

[bold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/gary-the-snail-gary-gary-good-good-gary-gary-food-gif-25657499

[cerulean hemlock]

Aww Gary so good

[cerulean hemlock]

His cousin Larry helps a lot more though

[sacred monolith]

Is it worthwhile to get a set of multikill obols for vman speedruns?

[rough wasp]

Not really isn’t it just base multikill

[sick sentinel]

yeah, but not really much else to use

[silent pelican]

is there a best map for SB to farm out forge process? workin on my skull destroyer and these bars take so long

[sick sentinel]

hyper dmg and mk are better

[sick sentinel]

candy any map

[silent pelican]

candy works on it huh?

[sick sentinel]

active counts base kills while afk factors in mk

[silent pelican]

ah, easy enough then, ty

[grizzled elk]

I think theres a spreadsheet somewhere that tells you how much afk time you need to smelt your shit

[silent pelican]

well that was an easy 50k bars

[eager sedge]

do i even wanna harvest these?

[teal lynx]

Harvest all

[eager sedge]

ill just harvest when i get another 2-3 ranks on snail

Or tier 6

[teal lynx]

Yeah reset from 9 -> 10 like 3 times now. Taking it super slow right now and getting the rest T6

[vocal ibex]

For the buffs new bosses I'm not sure what benefits more. Either 6% more damage or +18% more class xp

[teal lynx]

Damage

[sick sentinel]

the exp is smol

[teal lynx]

The XP is additive to grind time

Atleast that's what i heard

[vocal ibex]

K I'll do damage thanks

[misty spindle]

when doing chem cycles how many chems should I have, the more the better?

[teal lynx]

I like to have 4-7 Chems. So I can harvest all the other plants and get Bits. If you are just going for Acorns, Nuggets then Full Chem should be best. But it will take some time to get a full board of chems

[misty spindle]

I got them a few days ago so Im not sure how to tackle them, also I have a 12k nugget do I go for a bigger one?

[green eagle]

you always go for a larger and larger nugget

higher and higher

[pine yacht]

anyone have the updated gem shop rec ?

[paper sail]

Shameless self promo, if you don't mind reading: The Priority Tiers tab of my Gem Shop calculator shows my opinions for every upgrade, and will calculate how many gems you need to finish maxing each tier too. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U3zxMn-tcQE504aObTmsKKnBycYp-Fud_Kl6vmj0poM/edit#gid=365625485

I'll make a pretty picture form one day

[pine yacht]

u dont by any chance have THE guide one

that one is usefull but I am trying to help a newbie

[paper sail]

The one from Tony is 9 months old at this point, missing several key changes across patches. I don't have it though 😦 You can probably search for "tony gem" and find it in the discord

[pine yacht]

oh iirc he updated it like 2 months ago ( before the followers fiasco )

[teal lynx]

Not sure how up to date this is. Just searched for Tony Gem and took the first one I saw

[paper sail]

That's April, only 5 months old lol

Newer than I thought at least

[hasty mortar]

mhh odesnt contain limited shop stuff
or atleast i dont see it

[civic bane]

is tony gone?

[sick sentinel]

gone, reduced to atoms

[pine yacht]

I was thinking about the overall guide, not just gems

[civic bane]

explains why i have so many atoms now lol

[pine yacht]

the one that covers every world... forgot who made it...

[paper sail]

The picture from 5 months ago doesn't contain data about new patches? Wow

[civic bane]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[pine yacht]

not sure, havent seen him since, I myself quit for about a month

[pine yacht]

that's the one thanks

[hasty mortar]

mhh i am clikcing trough gemshop right now
and dont see anything permanent added that isnt in that tony list

[civic bane]

same, just joined in yesterday

[hasty mortar]

wow that guide is huge

[civic bane]

used to be the go to answer for basically everything

[hasty mortar]

used to be?

[civic bane]

well yeah i guess everyone who worked on it quit the gamee

[misty spindle]

If I have 6 pet spaces in breeding can I do all the spice battles?

or do I need bigger number pets

[paper sail]

6 is the maximum

[civic bane]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[hasty mortar]

the gudie thing we talk about has a püet battle section

[misty spindle]

I just mean am I ready to get it even with 10k pets?

[civic bane]

just click the link lol

[teal lynx]

With the right setup and some luck yeah

[paper sail]

10k might be a little low, but give it a go 🤷 I beat them all with ~20k max so you can probably get most

[misty spindle]

I have it open rn, have the setup was just unsure about my power

[sick sentinel]

its the same thing with vman nmare kruk fight. can be done with lower power just takes longer

[civic bane]

yup, basically could be done with anything beeing at 1 power

[sick sentinel]

lol not that low

[paper sail]

bro don't you know? just click the guide bro, lol bro the guide

[sick sentinel]

link it again

[worldly hollow]

What's the easiest way to get the 100m mongo worm slice achievement? Is there a way to see the exact number in a storage slot?

[sick sentinel]

you can make a new stack in storage, pull out like 20m at a time and put it in the new stack

[paper sail]

If you have over 100m already, withdraw from your storage in even stacks of 10m, then manually drag to a new slot in storage. Repeat.

[worldly hollow]

Didn't think of that. Thanks lol.

[sick sentinel]

if you put the new stack in front of the original one you can do deposit all

[tidal sky]

I said goodbye to my candies

[sick sentinel]

now time to afk w5

[noble mesa]

Is this for real???

Jizzzz

[misty spindle]

is there a point in going above 200 tenteyecle?

[noble mesa]

To 400

[sick sentinel]

higher % chance i guess, idk if it gets capped like other talents

[dreamy rapids]

God damn it snail

Failed at 9

Today is just not my day

[chrome tiger]

Wait until you get past 15

[autumn wasp]

10k when my carpal tunnel heals

[paper sail]

Soon

[weary sonnet]

Guys, there is a pumping in "gaming", which, if you remove all the prayers, gives 1/5 of the positive effects5, tell me, is it effective to remove them or is it better to wear them?

[paper sail]

Currently, always better to wear prayers.

[bitter perch]

where should I farm power statues?

[mortal fox]

Hey, I decided to push w5 before any divinity and realized that the gains increase with divinity level, is is worth to still have a pusher or place all 10 characters on the shrine until I unlock goat god?
IE: https://dorlle.idleonefficiency.com/

[sick sentinel]

you can for sure have a character out of divinity while the rest do it

tho it is recommended if you dont have multikill on a mob to backtrack to previous worlds and bolster your account before pushing

[mortal fox]

Thanks alot!

[forest hinge]

In the Fractal Island what should I do just bought the island?

Should I spend candy in the island it have to be 24+ hours?

[versed cypress]

any candy works

its an island to leave your ppl afk doing nothing for long periods of time

[foggy briar]

Just got Eltrich on the Rift, which Islands should I focus on now?

[versed cypress]

so nothing to really give much attention unles syou feel like taking a break from the game for a while

[sick sentinel]

the first few islands and then stuff like fury, steak, whatever else you want

[foggy briar]

I am still missing a bunch of the last artifacts 💀

[gloomy hazel]

Focus on being very patient when it comes to eldritch artifacts, is my experience

[forest hinge]

Ok

[fiery plume]

I have 15 eldritch and I'm missing the last 3 regular artifacts

[twin token]

Get the importa r stuff like tusk lamp ad tablet and then other stuff

[pearl cedar]

Yeah but did you get trophy

I need someone with trophy to prove to me that it is not as good as IS trophy

[sick sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[untold lintel]

finally hit lvl 200 tent, still havent got fury relic but fuck it

[marble shuttle]

I hope you were checking the forge every now and then

[plucky yarrow]

Im gonna pretend thats a compliment

[sacred verge]

is it worth it to atom diamond chef?

isnt it pretty much done by the time it hits 100M?

[sick sentinel]

It still goes up quite a bit

Even tho the number in game doesnt change much, on either the wiki or IE the bonus gets pretty big

[untold lintel]

is there a guide or anything for shiny pets?

and what to prio etc

[sacred verge]

damn

as far as i can see the bubble hits its 90% at 117

[sick sentinel]

Shiny speed to like 5 or 6, inf starsigns 1 lvl6 and rest lvl 5, i went meal bonuses next then just got everything to 5 at least

[sick sentinel]

On the alch bubble display yes but itd exponential

[sacred verge]

so what lvl do you think i should bring it to?

[sick sentinel]

Idk mine is probably low still

[sacred verge]

damn

alright il give it some love everyday then

like 10 lvls a day i guess for a while

its atom hungry lol

[sick sentinel]

Yup

[sacred verge]

changing device is so painfull i dont have words

[coral goblet]

why take off this prayer if im farming skulls and only lose one damage tier with it on

am i dumb should i just have it on

[foggy briar]

the kills/hr shown is counting with fibers of absence

so its actually going down

Its multiplicative -51%, only worth it if you are not getting any multikill

[sick sentinel]

Its bonus is additive kill per kill so its awful too

[plucky yarrow]

Does Broken glass ( i think that was his name) boost Divinity points?

Broken time*

[sick sentinel]

Whats broken time

[patent hatch]

can someone link the resampling check list again please

[sick sentinel]

It says just smithing and alchemy

[sacred verge]

tips and trick and search for sample

[patent hatch]

ty

[paper sail]

Doesn't seem super worth it, honestly. That buff is a little over 2x mine at level 152 :c

[tidal sky]

is it worth to zow those two? 40 2h candies to zow office and roots forget only 185k kills an hour

[paper sail]

It is worth to Super CHOW the Poop for sure, at least CHOW the Nutto. But you can wait for better rates later

[tidal sky]

oh yeah i meant super chow

yeah office seems ok

anyone has done rift and roots already?

[paper sail]

Yes lol

At least one crazy person finished Super CHOWing the Doot shroom

[tacit lion]

_ _

[untold lintel]

for the get lava skulls tasks in rift you just kinda auto and kill right? no strat to it

[tidal sky]

that is crazy

[paper sail]

Last I looked was 6 weeks ago. 300ish hours to Super CHOW nutto for me at that time, so I passed. Probably a little quicker now.

But like

I could do it lol. Would I even notice having 13 less? 🤔

[paper sail]

Usually, yes. IF you are having really bad luck, just remember not to wipe the whole map or you lose all progress.

[untold lintel]

wait so i shouldnt active afk?

[paper sail]

You should.. Just maybe not on a DK

[untold lintel]

im doing bubo thats prob just as bad

[paper sail]

If you take off Cannister so poison isn't 100% covering the map, Bubo is usually fine

[tidal sky]

damn, for me it is 521 hours 💀

[paper sail]

Just wait a few weeks or months then 🙂

[untold lintel]

yeah idk not seeing any lava skulls, just gonna activeafk for a bit

[tidal sky]

never, i will wait world 6

[paper sail]

Getting a lava skull is flipping Heads like.. copper, iron, gold, plat, dementia, lava.. so 5 times in a row? It takes some time

[spice frigate]

is card stamp rare?

[clear quartz]

im getting close to my first superchow.... although its on a dumb one, may go back to w1 and go sequential after wurms is done, ust liked sitting and xping and getting the kills passively, but yeah

[tidal sky]

it is tricky to get, u need to use lvl up gift

[spice frigate]

oh sick got lucky then

[clear quartz]

maybe i can get ruby unlocked here soon, whats a good dmg to be aiming for for that?

[sick sentinel]

One of the last challenges needs about 110B dmg on your ele sorc with maxed attacks talents and wormhole

[proud zodiac]

I have a dumb question, but i can't figure it out. Why are my prints purple? It used to be blue due to lab for x2 print quantity, but why is it purple? There's an additional bonus? (I have doot if this makes any difference and first 3 gods in divinity)

[prisma furnace]

Do0o0o0o0o0t 😄

[sick sentinel]

Lab is blue 2x, gold is god 3x, purple is both 6x

[spice frigate]

what exactly does infinity starsigns do?

[sick sentinel]

Makes them always active

Only thw benefit tho

[prisma furnace]

and no negatives

[spice frigate]

like, every single one?

[prisma furnace]

Only the ones with infinity sign

[sick sentinel]

All the ones that are infinite yeah

[spice frigate]

so i get to rift 11 and then i have them all infinity or what

[prisma furnace]

You unlock more infinity starsigns from certain shiny pets in breeding

[spice frigate]

oh...

well rip going for that lmao

[sick sentinel]

Why

[proud zodiac]

Ohhhh, just remembered that doot gives the buffs for the gods that aren't yet unlocked as well. Thank you, circ, now it makes sense. And hell, 6x. This is a lot of printing out of nowhere.

[spice frigate]

Because my breeding is dog and i'm assuming having no shinies it's not worth it?

[prisma furnace]

You start out having the first 5 starsigns infinity if IRC

[sick sentinel]

You're gonna get there anyway at some point

[spice frigate]

yeah but to put 3 of my chars getting 10k an hour for 200k kills sounds like a waste of 7 hours to me right now lol

leaving me with jack to do all day lol

[sick sentinel]

Do what you want to do, can always comr back to it

[spice frigate]

yeah just a bummer. weird requirement needing shinies lol

[prisma furnace]

Rift is very endgame designed tho

[sick sentinel]

You can pre level them for when u want to unlock it too

[bright current]

this is getting out of hand, now there are two of them!

[prisma furnace]

O.o

[spice frigate]

i just don't understanding breeding... do I like grind DNA... or just hatch eggs to begin with or what

[sick sentinel]

Hqtch eggs often, get more exp/dna

[sacred monolith]

Follow the guide. Probably don't recommend grinding any DNA that you can get with candy

[bright current]

or. leave eggs alone, see funny colours

[spice frigate]

don't you need... upgrades to leave eggs alone 😛

[sick sentinel]

Lol ur done with breeding tho

[sacred monolith]

That is a fair point. I did not know there were further colors

[spice frigate]

since it heavily ties in with cooking and how slow that already is, both are terrible mechanics. being halfway through w5 and hardly touching the surface of 2 w4 skills i've been "grinding" since i hit w4 lol

[stark badger]

Yo guys, I am on w5 but never summoned doot king bc of procrastination probs. Could someone help me with this? Tried asking for help at the "party-finder" channel but no answers came

[sacred monolith]

Its not an uncommon story with those. If you focus it for just a couple weeks at this point you'll probably be about done with breeding.

[spice frigate]

well i do my eggs everytime, over 400 eggs and the "1 in 170" hasn't happened so idk

seems busted to me

[prisma furnace]

Doing w4 Colo with a DK speeds up breeding and Cooking

[spice frigate]

w4 colo?

[prisma furnace]

Cause you get a bunch of eggs and ladles

[spice frigate]

idk what "w4 colo" means lol

[sacred monolith]

Colluseum

[prisma furnace]

Coloseum 😄

[sacred monolith]

On the TV map

[prisma furnace]

At the TV's map

[spice frigate]

oh, i can attempt it once every 2 days i do colo

[prisma furnace]

It's best if you get a DK to do it though, you get quite a bit more drops cause of his orb ability

[spice frigate]

I do do it on my DK or ES

typically DK

[sacred monolith]

I can help if you find a third

[stark badger]

Ok bro

Trying hard LOL

[inland wadi]

I will help u too

[inland wadi]

Say me world name etc Im logging in game

[stark badger]

Ok ok

Lets go on cookie 3

[sacred monolith]

Which roles do you need?

[stark badger]

I will go on archer

[sacred monolith]

I'll do warrior

[stark badger]

My name is StayHorny

Lol

[inland wadi]

Mage is coming in sec

[stark badger]

I will wait in the totem

That helped me a lot. Thx

Gotta farm the doooot

[junior bobcat]

A question about breeding but i didn't get an answer there. What have people found to be the best combo for completing pet battle for new territories? I'm stuck and cant seem to find the right combo

[sick sentinel]

Depends on what the furthest pets you have unlocked for each world

[junior bobcat]

fair, ive got all of w1, up to shovel w2, mouse w3, and tv w4

[sick sentinel]

How many fight slots?

[junior bobcat]

5 slots. im trying to get past Pristalle lake

[sick sentinel]

rattler, mono, refiller, shield, refiller

just gotta get a few blocks right then can leave the rest of the fight on auto

then for arena rattler, shield, (looter, or refiller dont know which is best), whale, borgar

[junior bobcat]

awesome, thank you ill give it a try

[coral goblet]

how many more procs do you think this is left

of NBLB

to hit atom range

[sick sentinel]

is that with the lab vial doubler off

[coral goblet]

does that help or make it harder

[sick sentinel]

it helps it be more expensive/closer to atom range

[coral goblet]

i didnt even know that was a thing

[sick sentinel]

just disconnect that node and refresh map

[coral goblet]

oh yeah

that being doubled

[sick sentinel]

yeye

[coral goblet]

we close

[sick sentinel]

couple more levels

[coral goblet]

thats huge i didnt know / think to do that

[sick sentinel]

ye helps in a few scenerios like this

[coral goblet]

thats gotta be 1 proc

[sick sentinel]

it'll be a close call

[coral goblet]

is the 15% to not be a low bubble, is each bubble a 15% roll or just one of all of them

not really sure how that worked

[sick sentinel]

i dont really know, let me see if i can find a discussion i remember seeing on it

you can also see which bubbles has an opportunity of getting hit on IT bubbles section

[heavy moth]

i think i need to Gmush way more XD i got more socks than gmush what a shame

[signal osprey]

[coral goblet]

yeah it just wont show which ones would when they proc, but its the lowest lvl i have so it just need to hit the 15% i think

[sick sentinel]

pretty sure it favors the yellow cauldron bubbles anyway

cant find the discussion

[mortal fox]

Once I unlock goat god how many lab rats should I have?

[sick sentinel]

however many you need to light up the important stuff

[mortal fox]

ty

[sick sentinel]

6 is the normal setup

if you have the range for taht

[mortal fox]

atm I'm at fungi finger

with 9

[sick sentinel]

at least you will get lab levels again putting them in

look for connection range stuff too

[mortal fox]

kk, I've been trying to get w4 achievements done for the extra range

[sick sentinel]

once you reach the last node it gives taht too

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=connection range

[mortal fox]

Thank you for all of your help

[dire tinsel]

what soul gives the most xp? tryna get all my dudes to 100 worship, and i dont really know what is the most xp/click at the MSA

[iron mesa]

IE has that on worship tab

[zealous niche]

All depends on your max waves on each

Higher souls give more exp for equal waves, but lower souls tend to have higher waves achieved

[coral goblet]

@sick sentinel

we hit

[sick sentinel]

Niiice

In range?

[sweet mountain]

I'm past the 14-day mark farming snuggmas for the knuckle recipe, with 7 characters... is this normal or I'm just unlucky?

[zealous niche]

Do you have 1000 royal urns?

[coral goblet]

yup was in range by turning the vial off like you said

[sweet mountain]

Almost 2.5K

[sick sentinel]

[coral goblet]

[zealous niche]

Unlucky then

By stats one recipe should drop every 1000 urns

Of course rng doesn’t adhere to that as a rule

I’m the same..

If I can figure out how to use the guaranteed calculator I’m going to sacrifice a character to it

[opaque sun]

Getting 2x chance on a single claim takes like a full month or so

[static zinc]

how do i get this

[pearl quail]

Damn I got the recipe in like 10mins

[sick sentinel]

Alch lvl 120, but not actually interactable

Just a placeholder

[static zinc]

hummm does it show up?

[sick sentinel]

Not yet

[static zinc]

ahhh ok

[stiff kayak]

what does this do?

[paper sail]

Exactly what it says.. Without that artifact, meals max out at level 30. That artifact raises the maximum level to 40, 50, and 60 at eldritch tier.

[stiff kayak]

oh

[paper sail]

W4 Cooking Meals if that wasn't clear

[stiff kayak]

yeah yeah ik i thougt it was +lvl not max lvl

[stiff kayak]

yo shoudl i put points i luck or quad ?

luck right? for more dmg and kills

[paper sail]

I'd go Quad, personally

[stiff kayak]

does it boost afk kills?

[paper sail]

🤷 I think so, but I've been AFK kill capped since before Vman came out

[lapis orchid]

How do you normally get ancient and eldritch artifacts?

[paper sail]

Same as normal artifacts, just significanlty lower chances. Must be found in order.

[lapis orchid]

So, while I have people finding new islands, I should also just keep doing islands I already have all artifacts from?

[paper sail]

Ancient, yes. Remember that Eldritch cannot be found until you unlock them via the Rift.

If you have them unlocked though, yes.

[lapis orchid]

OK,thanks

[stoic silo]

what is this skill good for?

[autumn wasp]

staying at 0

[polar light]

Wasting points

[paper sail]

Rank 40 🤩

[stiff kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/money-smell-sus-gif-23801020

[fast grail]

Hmm, know if its possible to reach 90% sample size without prayer with the new stamp?

[lapis orchid]

How do I increase how many afk kills I get? My es level 270 only kills 50k per hour gmush, yet I see some people that kill like 18m an hour

[rapid shale]

multikill mainly

[fast grail]

Damage, respawn, deathnote, generic multikill per tier, afk gains

Having maxed or high w1 deathnote is pretty big for it

with that kph, doesnt sound like you have too many w1 mobs above the 5m mark

[vagrant mountain]

don't think so, you are just barely able to get 90% on DK with the stamp

[fast grail]

damn, guess i can slowly start taking off the prayer on DKs at least

[pearl cedar]

Why bother though

[lapis mesa]

thanks for reminding me, hadnt checked the docks in a week

[celest scroll]

Just got the shovel in gaming, when should I activate it? is there a benefit to waiting?

[fast grail]

I can’t currently hourly click Larry

[pearl cedar]

Right, but I mean the prayer doesnt really hurt much

[fast grail]

Ah, well yeah it’s barely anything now, but would be slightly more exp.

Well actually, don’t even really need exp anymore

It doesn’t affect cooking

Vman places traps anyways

[pearl cedar]

Especially on dk

Ive also never had the prayer on my vman anyways cause he sucked at sampling so 🤷‍♂️

[fast grail]

The more I think about it, the less of a reason there is to worry about it

[rapid shale]

Is this when I initially place the trap or will it be fine if I collect on vman after placing traps

[pearl cedar]

Now you're learning

[pearl cedar]

For exp you place with vman on everyone

For critters you place with bm

[rapid shale]

bet so it on initial placement of trap?

[fast grail]

Hmm, there is something I can do instead, re-trap. Need to do critter vials

Don’t think I’ve completed a single one yet

[pearl cedar]

Whats your vman worship

Shame

I recommend ballooning to at least 140 worship

[fast grail]

Ah yeah, Currently at 112 worship

[pearl cedar]

Ballooning starts slowing down in the 120-130 range then you just ccd between levels

But only a few thousand balloons total

[fast grail]

Hmm, havent used ballons in probably a year, dont know how many i have

Should be enough?

[opaque sun]

no balloons used for a year sounds like you might need to do your cooking masteries

[rapid shale]

whats the reasoining for ballooning worship. I always thought that was a meme

[fast grail]

I do need to
Got bubo to level 50 cooking when w5 came out for money talent, and nothing ever since

[pearl cedar]

To level worship

[rapid shale]

but its so easy to level worship

[pearl cedar]

Vman talent

[opaque sun]

Once done with cooking levels, there isnt really any other skills worth using balloons

[pearl cedar]

What's your worship level?

On vman

[opaque sun]

Its mostly to specifically raise vman’s worship (and trap levels) for his talent

[rapid shale]

62 rn :p

[pearl cedar]

[fast grail]

[opaque sun]

Obviously at that point its easy to raise anything

More like why isnt it 100+ yet

[rapid shale]

lol, im just asking, only been playing for a few months

[pearl cedar]

do you have vman unlocked?

[rapid shale]

this discord gets so elitist sometimes

[pearl cedar]

Check out his skill set

[rapid shale]

damn yall could have said this talent a while ago

[pearl cedar]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[zealous niche]

Buddha mentioned it

[rapid shale]

ahh my b

[zealous niche]

Not very explicitly but yes

[opaque sun]

i said it too

[pearl cedar]

I cant remember all the talent names and I'm not on vman atm

[zealous niche]

That talent is amazing for w3 skills

[rapid shale]

bet, makes sense. ty for the help

[pearl cedar]

Made vialss that were impossible to max easily onbtainable, much nice

[sharp wind]

is this skill make ur DR higher or just make the table drop easier to get?

[fast grail]

Should worship exp multi be about the same as trapping?

[zealous niche]

Two soul vials maxed~

[opaque sun]

Its just dr despite wording

[sharp wind]

ahh i see thanks

[pearl cedar]

I uh never look at exp multi

[opaque sun]

early on lava had many inconsistency with rare chance, drop chance, drop rate, etc, but they are the same

[fast grail]

Oh well, guess ill just try the best i can then

[pearl cedar]

Just use acorn helm, worship starsign, effaunt card, uh other skill exp stuff, and transfusion.

[sharp wind]

but its not directly impacted my DR tho?

i try to reset it and my DR just stayed at 20.11 after taking that skill

[pearl cedar]

Go to gemshop and back

[sharp wind]

still the same

[pearl cedar]

Odd

[glossy pagoda]

why is it impossible for me to get any of the double tree looking thing from beachy coast??

i can get the upgraded version of the material or whatever its called from any other sailing island but not the one from beachy coast

[opaque sun]

All rares dont drop if doing active skilling

oh sorry sailing

[fast grail]

just rng

[glossy pagoda]

wdym

[opaque sun]

its 5% chance for it

[glossy pagoda]

well I get that but like i've never gotten a single rare from beachy coast yet i have from every other island

am i just that unlucky

[opaque sun]

when opening a chest and treasures pops out, its 5% chance that its the rare version

[formal minnow]

I'm still just trying to get the last few artifacts and upgrade my Dann book library to 230 so I can get vmans ability upgrade talent for the dk

[opaque sun]

like we have no clue how may times (chests) you got there so cant really tell how unlucky

If you got like 10 chests and no rares, thats like nothing special

[fast grail]

My exp multi must be dogshit, cause it took 500 baloons to go from 112 to 114.25, guess i can just level my vman while doing ccd every 2 levels

[glossy pagoda]

no im saying every chest i've ever opened

[opaque sun]

If you got 5000 chests and still no rare trees, then yes its bugged

[zealous niche]

It happens occasionally, you’ll get it eventually

[opaque sun]

“Every” is very subjective

[pearl cedar]

Maybe i misremember lol, i did it like 3 months ago my b

[zealous niche]

With the number of players there are a few rare that roll really badly in rng

[glossy pagoda]

i couldnt have used any of the rare trees

[opaque sun]

some newbs can say 5 chests and claim “every single chests”

[zealous niche]

It took ages to get some rares at the start

[glossy pagoda]

i havent upgraded the boat that needs rare trees to upgrade

and havent traded any ever

[opaque sun]

Some endgamers saying every chest means like 5000

[cursive forge]

[glossy pagoda]

im almost at cloud 6

[cursive forge]

failed

damn

[opaque sun]

Like if you arent sending ships to the beach, you obviously dont get any

[cursive forge]

I already failed like 3 25% 2 50%

[glossy pagoda]

i've sent every ship to the beach one time and then used sailing bottles

[cursive forge]

this goat man

[opaque sun]

Its more of how many ships going to beach than how far you have unlocked

[fast grail]

I could just be massively forgetting something as well

[glossy pagoda]

and i have ships on the beach at all times

and i've used artifact chests and it decides to not give me any rare trees I guess

[zealous niche]

You’ll get them

There’s no known bugs preventing sailing rares

[opaque sun]

Like estimate of how many chests than “every” and “all”

As i said, we have no clue of the quantity of chests you got from your expression

[glossy pagoda]

i know i originally came cause i thought i was doing something wrong but im just really unlucky

[opaque sun]

you are getting the single palm tree one right? If so you just missed too many 5%

If using unending sailing talent of sb, you may want to stop that

[glossy pagoda]

wait why

[opaque sun]

unending sailing indirectly lowers the amount of chests you get

[glossy pagoda]

oh

[rapid shale]

by almost half if you check often enough, kinda huge losses

[opaque sun]

and im suspecting the issue is you are effectively getting less chest for using that

[zealous niche]

It’s only good if you check very infrequently

[opaque sun]

When using bottles, its a big loss

[pearl cedar]

Bad for artifacts good for loot tho

[rapid shale]

with unending sailing you only get max chests, but wihtout it, you get max chest + how ever many ships you have if they finish their routes

[opaque sun]

Bad for artifacts. Also bad for loot but lesser degree

its trading off chests for exp

[pearl cedar]

I dunno I get a good amount more loot with it on then with it off

[opaque sun]

but less frequent

So overall its still a loss

[zealous niche]

Me too, but that’s with daily claims that adding procs end up with 5-6 days of sailing per map check

[glossy pagoda]

well my sb hasnt really been in that preset with that talent anyways

so i've been getting the chests from the boats finishing their routes

[opaque sun]

But if you are in a “im pretty much done with sailing” mode and cant be bothered to check often, then yes you get more loot for using unending

[pearl cedar]

Eh I'm just going for all red boats, having it on has been a net gain for me

[opaque sun]

You are just at a point where a slight net loss isnt worth the trouble

Its still a net loss

[zealous niche]

Red boats?

[pearl cedar]

Lvl 300 boats

[glossy pagoda]

thats crazy

[opaque sun]

QoL is also a factor, and unending sailing basically buffs the QoL part of it by mitigating the loss for not checking frequently

[pearl cedar]

Almost done

[zealous niche]

Ahh, almost there for me

I’m going for 60M speed on all so I can get minimum time on all islands for every boat

[grizzled elk]

I think my first 5 are red, the rest are 250-270ish?

[opaque sun]

i havent cared to red boat, but did make all 50m+ speed

[pearl cedar]

I've got 5 left

[zealous niche]

But SB family bonus!

60M is the figure to aim for

[opaque sun]

The minimal sailing will be taken care of with blessings

That is why i said 50m**+**

[zealous niche]

Still have speed on all my captains too..

[pearl cedar]

You're pretty close to 300 then, unless you're using speed. All my 300s are right around 60m speed

[opaque sun]

whole point of getting 50m+ on ship is so you can fire speed captains

[zealous niche]

Yeah

[opaque sun]

I might go through all island again for the loot%, but too lazy. Sending them all to last island for sail exp