lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[fair karma]

ok! thanks!

[errant sluice]

level up the easy alchemy bubbles

so nbnl goes up quicker

everything that costs catching, mining, chopping stuff and easy mob mats

[dim wind]

do you have a 9% chance of 3x or does it cap at 2x?

[teal lynx]

3x

[errant sluice]

level up mining/ chopping bubbles then resample for atoms

[teal lynx]

501 gives you a 100% chance of 2x bubbles

[dim wind]

Alright, alchemy it is

I've copied your replies, thanks for looking into it 🙂

[autumn wasp]

yo if ur gonna super chow make sure its on ur second BB

[dim wind]

why's that?

[autumn wasp]

its bugged

[teal lynx]

Second BB if you are on Steam/Web and first BB if you play on Mobile

[dim wind]

another reason to change 2nd BB into a DK

[autumn wasp]

u aint wrong

[teal lynx]

Yeah

[dim wind]

been sitting on that bullet for a while now

[teal lynx]

Good thing there are Elite Class Swap tokens in Shop right now

[dim wind]

and I've got just the amount of gems to do it too

[teal lynx]

Don't forget to slab it before using it

[dim wind]

hmm, great note

Thanks Xayayah, NotSmurf and LaserG

[runic token]

having access to storage from quick ref has got to be the best qol improvement ever

[teal lynx]

You have a lot of meals that take less than a minute. Should probably do them at some point ^^

[dim wind]

Woops, thanks for that headsup o.^

[zenith cape]

I'm stupid I think? What's up with the shovel in gaming?

Does the multiplier stay until I dig again?

[split orbit]

it stays till you get a larger dig

[zenith cape]

Oh good. I just unlocked it and was worried my multiplier would go away

[tacit tulip]

don't worry, shovel is the most frustrating part of gaming 😛

[hoary sparrow]

I have 67 for apocalypse chow, is killing the nuttos in the W1 TD map supposed to be one? cause I've used tons of candy and still says 67.

[ocean lily]

is there anywhere reasonable to park vman for afk statues? pulling him out of divinity for the first time in a while

[autumn wasp]

w2 catching

[clear topaz]

do all characters share the skill/level/progress of Gaming? i noticed all characters have the same level as my DK

[runic token]

fun flags seems impossible to get

[quartz crystal]

I dont think so since its still a nutto but idk

[hoary sparrow]

i've seen ppl with higher than 67 chow i'm trying to figure out what i gotta do

[quartz crystal]

U done all worlds?

[azure spindle]

the dungeon maps with mobs count as separate entities for chow's, they're just a pain to grind since they use dungeon stats I think

[prisma vigil]

Does droprate effect card drop chance?

[hoary sparrow]

ok so the nutto map where the TD is on world 1 doesn't count then? Couple ppl told me it did. But I swear I did more than 100m kills there and still don't have more than 67

[azure spindle]

that's the other one that is also suppose to be one if I recall but I could be mistaken

boops are also one as well

[autumn wasp]

if its like the doot slime u need to active it

[hoary sparrow]

ya idk how to do the boops lol

[autumn wasp]

doot shroom*

[azure spindle]

that could be the case, looks like active it still scales of normal nutto's so probably counts it as that mob for afk

[quartz crystal]

Maybe the ones from colosseum like shovel

[azure spindle]

but active might count differently

[hoary sparrow]

so you gotta active the nutto on TD map?

[azure spindle]

but also, at a certain point grinding those extra like 5 mobs when you have over 70 with them won't make much of a difference, at least not one worth the pain in my opinion

they would be useful for cooking and the enhanced chow but that takes 100m of them and that's just not really feasible

rift is also it's own chow as well if you haven't done that

the whole rift counts as 1

[azure spindle]

as for this, I don't know for sure

[paper sail]

No. You can candy it

[hoary sparrow]

hmm i swear i';ve done way over 100m lol

[dreamy rapids]

What is the best character to farm mob drops for Vials?

[paper sail]

IdleOn Toolbox will show you those extra 4 "hidden" targets

[azure spindle]

es

[dreamy rapids]

Hmm

And how long does it take?

[azure spindle]

varies per map and damage

[dreamy rapids]

200B

[azure spindle]

technically DK might be better for some flatter maps especially if you can't get high portal kills for the map

[paper sail]

https://idleontoolbox.com/account/apocalypses

It will also show the Poops on the Dr. Def map, but I've completed it already so not pictured

[dreamy rapids]

Is this tool box gonna tell I am gonna need Doot...

[paper sail]

wat

[dreamy rapids]

Just a joke

[paper sail]

Not a good one

[dreamy rapids]

[hoary sparrow]

just says 0 for some idk what that means or how many i need still

[paper sail]

Don't use IE for Apoc tracking. It is out of date.

Use IT, as I linked

[hoary sparrow]

how do i find that tab

nvm apocalypses

says this on IT

[teal lynx]

So you already did TD Nutto

[wind trellis]

aside from the HP pool difference, nightmare cruk is the same as chaotic/normal? the mobs have the same hp?

[teal lynx]

Time to get Dr D Poops and Rift

[teal lynx]

I believe the Mobs also scale with Difficulty, but not 100% sure

[wind trellis]

fuck I don't wan to risk my keys yet

need to know

[teal lynx]

What Class and how long did Chaotic take you?

Or DMG?

[paper sail]

The frequency the moles spawn at increases, but they should have the same HP

[azure spindle]

I didn't notice an hp difference when I did it on my ES with like 6b damage, was one shotting mobs with just random aoe

[wind trellis]

I need about 40sec to kill chaotic on bubo, a little less on DK, should be around 4-5 hours for nightmare, good for going to bed and leaving it there

800m dmg +-

100% knight uptime for DK

[hoary sparrow]

oh weird, i wonder why it didnt increase from 67 then, whats best way to do rift?

[paper sail]

Yikes lol. Why so desperate to kill?

[teal lynx]

4-5 Hours? :O
You are better of just farming that time

[wind trellis]

just want 1 kill for fun

[azure spindle]

grind it as early as possible since hp scales really quick with them making it much harder to super chow later

[hoary sparrow]

im already on the last map you can be on lol

[paper sail]

Don't wanna waste keys, but willing to sit 4-5 hours for fun lol. Alright, you do you

[azure spindle]

rip you

[teal lynx]

Then you just have to afk there. Took me several weeks on Rift 40

[tacit tulip]

first number grows when you chow, second number grows when you super chow. It would have shown 66/66 before doing the nutto

once you've done everything it'll show 69/69

(nice)

[hoary sparrow]

damn aight, well thx everyone

[fallow aurora]

huge!

[unreal forum]

does construction lvl on the character you collect cogs with matter?

[sick sentinel]

nah it factors in your highest regardless of who you play

[unreal forum]

nice, ty

[green eagle]

welp my ES has permanently screwed up my reset time

i once enjoyed a 9:30 am EST reset, then it was 10:30, then 12 noon. it has been 5:30 pm the last few days, it is now 4 am 💀

[sick sentinel]

did you desync a lot then go to companions area

[green eagle]

yeeeep

[sick sentinel]

ooof i've been there too

never forgetting to cloudsave anymore

[green eagle]

i just remembered "oh hey free pet day"

and forgot to cloudsave

12 hours and 15 seconds until reset 😄

[sick sentinel]

i get that lmao

you could fix it by desyncing more XD

basically a free silver stopwatch

[green eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/desync-neon-knights-gif-27274873

[green eagle]

truuu

[sacred verge]

i had my time screwed aswell

almost had it change 24h now

[nimble yarrow]

what's the cap and rate people usually level their liquids to?

[sick sentinel]

doesnt rly ever end, you just dump water when playing bubo and take a break for other chars

[pallid monolith]

What would you say the most important late game alc bubbles are?

[sick sentinel]

laarryy, bob, skilling bubbles, quickslap(dmg isnt that important at some point)

[zinc belfry]

Would an elite class swap be worth it I have 2x bb 2x bubo and 2x sb - thinking about swapping a bb for dk or bubo for es

[zealous niche]

Could be, but next world could be a different meta too

[modern plaza]

worth it to just hold onto and wait imo

[zealous niche]

For the moment it’s best to swap, but who knows for future proofing

Maybe we’ll be given 13 chars and duplicate everything

[modern plaza]

2x squire for construction is a lategame optimization if you really want.

bubo to es only worth it if you don’t have doot

[autumn wasp]

swap bb to squire for QOL of not having to worry bout chow bug

[fallen flax]

I’ve gotten about 300 target statues in 6 hours with my DK killing brown mushrooms. Am I doing it wrong or should I just skip onyx on them for the time being?

[lilac vapor]

Has anybody gotten the last voidwalkers weapon recipe. Been trying for a month with all characters and ive still gotten nothing

Ive gotten a lucky lad and no recipe.

[sacred verge]

liquids starting to be a pain in the ass

[next locust]

Use es, cause the statues are normal mob drops?

[sacred verge]

dont use DK and dont farm wood mush

[green eagle]

keep farming it as it is the hardest recipe drop in the game, what can i say? the recipe from kruk that comes next is pretty easy at least

[sacred verge]

do ES at nutto iirc

[graceful bramble]

Whats the meta to get more crafting materials? As in the anvil ones? active play with SB?

[autumn wasp]

candy statues

and collect

[sacred verge]

Es active for 2 days and u prob got it with decent DR

candy with vman works great aswell

[green eagle]

candy sb if you want them quicker

[zinc torrent]

I'm on the same boat man..

[fallen flax]

Kk, thanks everyone! I’ll get it swapped over now. I just finish W3 statues. Took like a week each statue. Lol

[sacred verge]

1 week for each statue is alot. whats ur DR?

[runic token]

I feel stupid for not being able to figure this out. Can someone help me understand please. I'm trying to farm 300 more Hampters from Stiltmoles. Their drop rate is 1/50,000. My droprate is 17x. Which means they should be dropping every ~3,000kills for me right? My afk kph is about 800k/hr so my active kph should be higher with dk no? But I'm getting like 5 hampters per hour or something rediculously low, I don't get it.

[untold saffron]

Multikill doesn't impact rare drops

[runic token]

So divide kph by multikill to get a more accurate number?

[sterile bison]

Instead of checking all of them every day leave some for like two weeks and you will guarantee the drop of you have high enough dr and kph

[fallen flax]

14.23

[sterile bison]

The w3 statues you farm with es are some of the slowest

[autumn wasp]

I think you should kill 1 and see how many swords it drops, then divide the number of swords you get in an hour by the number to get ur raw kph

[sterile bison]

Isn’t es better for hampsters?

[edgy minnow]

What do you think it's worse, having 2 beast masters or 2 blood berserkers?

[autumn wasp]

2 bm

[glacial venture]

2 bm

whats the point of 2? cant set more traps

[edgy minnow]

Ask the old me when w3 was new

[autumn wasp]

2 bb gives double ladles

[fallen flax]

Second BB at least has use in the kitchen gathering ladles. Second BM has no use at all, I believe.

[edgy minnow]

Well i better get the swap token before it gets taken down

[zinc torrent]

Double ladles sounds so good but double dk do be better

[fallen flax]

21 statues in 5 minutes. Much better. Thanks peoples!

[edgy minnow]

I didn't notice they were in the shop till 6 hours ago

[glacial venture]

why 2 dk? can only be active on one^^

[sterile bison]

Construction

[glacial venture]

and skill points are only a prob when low lvl^^

oh yeah...construction...should look into it again...thanks for remindingme

[edgy minnow]

Do they have a shared kill score for orb?

[next locust]

Yes

[fallen flax]

I believe so.

[green glacier]

Right? I have so many skill points I can't spend even after my str/wis/agi caps got boosted

Practically doesn't matter if I switch builds anymore except for the star talents

[surreal oxide]

should i be using the midas touch prayer on my ES? Does it multiply the portal mobs hp as well?

[glacial venture]

no midas on ES

[zealous niche]

It does, the portal mobs are affected so you’ll overall lose drop rate

[fallow aurora]

can I get to wave 121 with 28 poisonic elder?

[native onyx]

How much damage do you guys recommend on Voidwalker to kill Nightmare Cattlecruk? because trying to outdamage the healing is not going well rn

[sick sentinel]

Do you have any atom collider bonus dmg?

[fallow aurora]

no

[sick sentinel]

Check the pins for a vman fight example. You can do it with 10B but its going to take at least an hour maybe more

[sick sentinel]

Sadly no then

[native onyx]

Ah thanks, I'm a good bit over 10B but I still don't want to spend like 20 mins doing that lol

[sacred verge]

in my opinion under 50 bill is pain

over is fairly okay

[native onyx]

Yeah, seems like

Not been great so far

[sacred verge]

very doable with like 20b but it takes time and effort

[native onyx]

At about 30B right now, might just wait a lil and do it later

Hit like 50B and try again

[sick sentinel]

If you have atoms to blow, using them on quickslap and using 4 speed pots will help your dmg a lot

[fading cape]

I had like 28B when I did it with vman and I believe it took about 20 minutes

[native onyx]

Speaking of atoms is just reminding me I need to re-sample

God I hate re-sampling

[fading cape]

however I had practiced a number of times when he only had 10B and it took forever.

[sacred verge]

using base dmg pots will likely give way more, same with bullets and the cookie for weapon power

need quite a bit of quickslap lvls for it to outdmg base dmg pots

[lavish cloak]

only 2 more worlds before we should all be able to raw 1 bil sample the important things. hopefully it will be impossible to do anything after that and we'll all accrue nonresample bonuses until the end of time

[native onyx]

I haven't done any re-sampling in a hot minute and some of my big bubbles have been levelled up a few hundred times so it's about time I do it

I just hate doing it lol

[sacred verge]

wont be so bad when you all of a sudden got 6x ur old prints 😛

[native onyx]

Yeah...

[fading cape]

I just went through the tedious process of resampling all my fish last week, only to realize the day after that my BB had gained an extra level of fishing and was 1 level higher than my vman...... so. That sucked

[native onyx]

I don't even know if I would bother redoing it tbh

[fading cape]

I haven't yet.

[native onyx]

Just like me

[fading cape]

It was still a 20% gain over what I needed, and I already have all fishing vials and green stacks completed. So the gain is irrelevant unless I really want to get the new fish to 1.000M for W6 prep

[native onyx]

Yeah, most sampling now is mainly just greenstacks/atoms or prep for new updates

[stable berry]

How do you guys get trillions of efficiency. What’s the bubble y’all mainly do

[fading cape]

hourly clicking the stat bubbles.

[sacred verge]

hearty diggy and hocus choppus

[zealous niche]

First two and then relevant skilling bubbles

[sacred verge]

big sample isnt just about the efficiency tho

[lost depot]

Is this the limit for dungeon weapon upgrades?

When I click upgrade nothing happens

[green glacier]

Maybe it's meant to be locked behind a class he hasn't named yet

[worldly hollow]

As far as Golden food goes. How drastic does the scaling go down? Almost 50k golden grilled cheese for 21.1% 😂😅

[lost depot]

Very drastically

You need to balance acquiring more gold food vs increasing your gold food bonus via stamps etc

[worldly hollow]

This is just the active pickups from a few days in w5 lol its not like I'm actively hunting for it.

But I get what you mean.

Thanks!

[prisma vigil]

My bubo sometimes stops using abilities. I think it happens when multiple attacks come off of CD at the same time. Any way to avoid this? The amount of enemies dying on screen causes EVERY ability i have to come off of cd relatively frequently

[sacred monolith]

You probably have a targetting skill equipped

Do you have the blue laser in use?

[prisma vigil]

Nope, neither laser, syringe, and not even vials

[sacred monolith]

Plenty of mana?

[prisma vigil]

106k and counting :p

[sacred monolith]

Whats your attack bar look like?

[prisma vigil]

Placing shrines, samples, and storage don't count towards auto attacks from what I know

Sure, just a sec

[sacred monolith]

It might be your teleport skill. I think I remember having trouble with that at one point when I used to use it. Maybe try dropping that and checking.

[prisma vigil]

Checking now

[sacred monolith]

I never see it used unless someone is wroking on that one quest/achieve

Can't rememeber which

[prisma vigil]

I mostly have it for the increase in afk gains. At least, I think that one counts? It's been a while.

The AI isn't using it normally, so I didn't think about it

[prisma vigil]

Yep, I think that fixed it! Multiple abilities came off cd multiple times now yet he doesn't stop using them for 30+ seconds.

Thanks for the help!

[sacred monolith]

Sure thing

[worldly hollow]

Isn't the fireball a targeted wizard skill?

At work so can't check much right now lol

[prisma vigil]

Nope. Fireball is just a frontal instant cast

Same thing as siege breaker or ranger piercing arrow and such.

[pulsar vortex]

Is the new boss hard to beat for anyone else? There's just not enough attack options

[spice frigate]

https://decrox.idleonefficiency.com/ i feel like i'm pretty lost on what to do

do i just like push w5 or what >_>

[sacred verge]

backtrack to w1-w4 and do everything u skipped 🙂

[spice frigate]

@sacred verge Any ideas of what I skipped or w/e?

[sacred verge]

well i cant open the link, seem to be some problems

but im pretty sure you can gain alot from alch, stamps, statue farming, card farming, cooking,

gearing up

[stiff jewel]

my slab on looty and actual slab doesn't match... any idea about this?

996 on slab, 978 on looty mc shooty

[spice frigate]

well i can't really do much more with cooking atm, just gonna be slow. card farming isn't gonna happen, statue farming isn't gonna happen yet, stamps meh.. alch doing all i can with that. geared up like 4 chars now. idk still feeling lost lol

[sacred verge]

why not card farming, losing out on huge buffs then

ur not feeling lost then, you just dont wanto to do the stuff u need to do

[spice frigate]

i have a majority of things at 3 or higher (the important things)

[sacred verge]

trust me its way more value than pushing w5

[spice frigate]

plus my droprate is only 5

[sacred verge]

3? wdym

[spice frigate]

3 star or higher

[sacred verge]

3 star is low, the good cards should have 4*

also you need to work on ur DR

w5 with 5 dr

[spice frigate]

lol, okay then how do I raise it stacking everything gets me about 5.5 cape, cards and all.

[sacred verge]

farm the dr cards

pop obols and dice obols if u dont got em

if you dont have obols u need to do it now

and im guessing u dont have a complete set as ur dr is that low

[sacred verge]

just my obols alone is 3.06 DR

thats almost ur entire DR just from cards and obols, just shows how much "simple stuff" can matter

[spice frigate]

It's not simple though because none of that is just simple to get lol

[sacred verge]

its easy to underestimate the small bonuses when you are fairly early in the game, but they add up to become alot

[spice frigate]

getting 471 mister brightside would take months if not longer

[sacred verge]

the obols are very easy tbh

cards, some are easy some are not

if you want to raise DR, gear also brings a good chunk. some are gemshop tho

[bold quiver]

buy it with gems

[sacred verge]

like the magma cape, you can get DR keychains (which u can double with chips)

the kattlekruk gear (a biut far for u atm but il mention it)

one of the yellow bubbles give a bit of DR

SB talent is good for DR

[spice frigate]

I have the cape. at least

[sacred verge]

po boxes for DR

[spice frigate]

double card affect chip

[sacred verge]

try to get as much bonuses as possible and it will add up, even the small ones matter

[spice frigate]

and honestly i was kinda waiting for choco chip before even caring about DR. I could work on bubble for it a bit more i think it's at 30

[sacred verge]

choco is huge yea

[spice frigate]

but my RNG with $$ and chips has been kinda meh lol

[sacred verge]

yeah

[spice frigate]

gonna try again i think

[sacred verge]

its massive

that will help u alot alone

onyxing statues etc etc

stuff like this will take you much further than pushing w5

[spice frigate]

wish me luck

[sacred verge]

i assume you got vman? if not 100% get it asap

good luck

[spice frigate]

nice got the second card one but no choco

[sacred verge]

also for DR, the pack giving 1.20x DR is huge

[spice frigate]

i have that as well

[sacred verge]

sweet

then u really miss alot of DR stuff if u sit at 5

but thats alright, room for massive improvments then 😄

[spice frigate]

yeah i'd have to recheck exactly what its at

double from keychain/a second card slot will be huge

[sacred verge]

start with the obols, they are massive

[spice frigate]

what's the best way to get DR ones

[sacred verge]

giga frog

for pop

and w2 (anywhere really) for dice

dice is from w2 crystals

[zealous niche]

So go for silver pops before you get choco chip

[sacred verge]

atleast full bronze. personal and family page

its a bit of a grind with low DR but its soo worth it

[spice frigate]

Is 6 is the absoulete best i can get my DR lol

when it says doubles the card of the BOTTOM RIGHT" does that mean far bottom right or first slot bottom right? sorry my brain

[zealous niche]

Second row far right

[spice frigate]

Okay I thought so, ty

[zealous niche]

The last card to fill

[spice frigate]

@sacred verge btw - no... no vman.. my journeyman is on the quest for maestro lmao

[rapid python]

so i have doot, do i still want 2 ES, or would i prefer 2 bubo for alch gains

[muted slate]

bubos alch gains are mainly from active

so idk

[rapid python]

he gives exp boost to same cauldron too right? i know its not as good as cranium cooking

[sick sentinel]

The gap is smaller between those 2 with doot, but i still would value a 2nd es more for the bonus worship charge rate

1 bubo does the same job 2 would

[paper sail]

Still ES. Gives extra worship charge rate regardless, and has the better combat AFK thanks to Mana is Life buff

[heavy moth]

ahah dont think ill push larry to 120 % HAHA

[paper sail]

120 is its cap, which can't even be reached yes

[heavy moth]

thats sad

[paper sail]

I think 12k is the target for 119%

[heavy moth]

yea make sens

[opaque sun]

Printing dem for hourly clicks in hopes for getting to 119% one day

[signal osprey]

20k is the target for 99.5% effect

99% is for early gamers now

[heavy moth]

early game is such a confortable place

[zinc torrent]

Is 7-8DR good enough to grind for the maestro knuckles

[opaque sun]

its pretty low, but you can do it if you dont mind doing like twice the effort in grinding it

[zinc torrent]

14-16dr is what you'd want?

[upper hornet]

is at 9.6 + orb and its taking its sweet time dropping for me

im at*

[opaque sun]

ultimately you can go to like 20 something, but 14-16x should be relatively easy if you look at some sources of dr you are missing which might be some easy grabs

[signal osprey]

Thats because DK at suggmas is awful if thats what you meant by orb. ES is the recipe farmer

[upper hornet]

oh?

[opaque sun]

i had to DK suggma for the recipe since at the time ES talents wasnt out yet

its the second best option for suggma recipe, but no reason to do on DK when we have ES now

[zinc torrent]

Yeah so far I've squeezed all I can rip

Yeah I'm on ES with 8DR

[opaque sun]

dont let that stop you getting dr. Like this game isnt “worked in 3 days and i maxed the stat”. Im sure there are many other sources of dr you can work on while farming suggma

Like dont pass on stuff just because “thats a mere 0.01x dr, hardly does nothing” since this game is more of collecting 100of those +1% bonuses than finding one big source that gives +100% bonus

[patent hatch]

I got lucky with that recipe, less than 24 hours and I got it

[clear quartz]

hmmm. if i wanna be stingy with my points on DK, can i just opt to not use the boomerang or am i setting msyelf up for many tears on beans and other non strictly flat places?

solution ofc would be to git gud and git moar talent points, but i am beby

[sick sentinel]

What are your points like rn

[clear quartz]

DK tab is hurtin a bit, although i guess i can probably also pull out of the skull pile since im not really pushing toward anything

[sick sentinel]

U dont need charred skulls or whatever jtd called

Or the gaming dmg one

[clear quartz]

i wondered about the weap power one, duly noted

[sick sentinel]

Its like ok if you need some dmg but ultimately dont need it

Would be better to get symbols up too

[clear quartz]

fair, im already oneshotting and not like mk tiers i think matter a ton for what i do with DK, can pu tthose points in symbols and the other things instead

maybe for when i start trying to do nm kruk ill reassign, or have enough points by then to get there naturally

[sick sentinel]

Just remember to spec symbols first if u reset so you dont mess up your orb lvls

[potent lily]

I was trying to do the 1st rift but i never did when i did i got to rift 8 trying to get to 16

Now i need to get the lvl of my orb to high and will push more of the rift

[twin token]

Whats the strat for weekly bosses

[ocean lily]

y'all think finishing buying all the merits for a world is a good sign of "completing" it?

[elfin flicker]

how are you guys reaching 10+dr lol 😮

[twin token]

Getting really far in the skills is what I'd say si completing it

Like endgame level of skills

[ocean lily]

I guess that's kinda my question since a lot of the tasks correspond to deep progress in most of that world's skills, although definitely not "end game" by any stretch for some of them

like you can't buy all the merits without having gotten far into at least MOST things for that world

[twin token]

Well u could buy all merits for a world and still be considered early or midgame

I've finished all of w1 2 and 3 merits and still can progress insanely in the skills

Like for example endgamers have like 20k grind time Bubble or smth but my highest bubble isn't even 200

[potent lily]

Is mining lvl 92 good?

[sour oasis]

Really depends on who/what you are comparing so thats a rather impossible question to answer. Id lean towards no its not good though, minimum 100 on every character for level 1000 rift is baseline good. After that more mining levels gives you bigger bonuses from stamps

[potent lily]

Bb lvl 241

[sour oasis]

Just keep going...there is no"good". You can always do better than your current state.

Also i would focus on getting maestro to highest skilling levels no matter what skill it is

[potent lily]

My vman is low on most skills

[sour oasis]

There's no time like the present. I would stop doing world 1 and 2 skills entirely for now on any character besides vman

[twin token]

Start printing materials and you won't ever have to put someone on skillin for resources again

[potent lily]

I need the cards

[twin token]

"for resources"

Cards are a different matter

But you wanna do that on vman too bc he has the highest cdr in the game

Aswell as the fastest skilling speed

[sour oasis]

Vman helps with card drops too

[potent lily]

This is my vman kinda bad

[vernal iris]

just like, level up, or something, man

[potent lily]

Im trying

[vernal iris]

I believe in you rocky you can do it

[clear quartz]

would be nice if you could swap prayers remotely, although i guess that could be abusable maybe

[zinc belfry]

What class is best for starting to push maps in world 5? Mostly afk but sometimes active

[potent lily]

Do i get 2 bubo or 2 es?

[pearl cedar]

Meh if doot 2 bubo is nice if no doot 2 es is better

[opaque sun]

well chopper or catcher has some merit to unlocking w5 map

But honestly there is no point to “push” w5 maps

Usually you should go into grind mode than trying to unlock further into w5 map as you are waaaaaaaaaay behind on previous upgrades as a result of rushing to w5

[rough galleon]

i think BB

[potent lily]

This 3 guys on the top was in lab for the past year so idk what to do with this lvl

[opaque sun]

I would actually not advise using BB to push as when you reached w5, you really need to catch up on cooking by making ladles, and BB is a bad portal opener (the worst of all classes) and there is no fish/mining node to access in w5 map

[fading cape]

I secod not using BB as your main pusher, because even if your BB isn't making ladles he should be in old worlds getting chow stacks

I used SB because of so many active skills just piling up on afk kills

[opaque sun]

decimator only works on base kills so it hardly makes him the killer, while he is severely gimped in damage that he is the 2nd weakest

Despite the name “Blood Berserker”, he is actually a non-combatant support class in idleon due to neglect of lava balancing

[potent lily]

Do i go and kill 1m of every mob with bb?

[merry pulsar]

i forgot whats that thing that gives you access to like 10% of all prayers?

[potent lily]

Div god i think

No idk

[opaque sun]

super bits of if you have no prayer equipped, the effect becomes 1/5 but you get all the positive

Which is a trash upgrade

Its only very very very situationally useful if you can get 90% sample rate without using royal sampler, but even then you would only use on ES active farming or DK farming specifically on colo 2

[potent lily]

I need to farm colo 2 for biggie hours cards

[weary granite]

does the shovel in gaming give you a higher multi the longer you wait? or is there a max to it or something

[opaque sun]

Natural sample rate of 90% is just barely achievable on DK, but for those people who have not even got super bits wont be at that point

[opaque sun]

Nope

you get 1 shovel charge per hour. But you get less per hour the more you charge

Its basically like library

[weary granite]

ahh I see, diminishing returns. the first claim was pretty big and the ones after that haven't been very high I'll probably have to wait a few days

[opaque sun]

Just like having 50000 library charge wont help you get a better roll per checkout

its better to do more tries by shoveling every hour if possible

[weary granite]

ooh wait I see what you're getting at, I had a brain fart with how that worked for some reason lol

[opaque sun]

if shoveled every hour, you get 24 tries a day for a ‘chance’ of a better nugget (which usually doesnt happen). If you didn’t shove for a full day, you only get like 4 charges or something which is just 4 tries

[weary granite]

yeah I thought they added or something each claim, I guess that's why I hear about the hourly dk thing for claims

[sleek tree]

how to complete this?

[white cipher]

does the sub class token swap not work?

[clear quartz]

i also have had trouble with it, im guessing it maybe requires big brain on either solo or jsut in first position if i were to guess, which sucks snce the royal sampler thing

[opaque sun]

Sub class token as it says only works if on subclass (as in like shaman, bowman, squire)

Elite classes need elite class token that is in the limited shop

[sleek tree]

i dont get the achievment, why?

[opaque sun]

Because its 775.1m just visually rounded to 776

Anything above 0.01 gets rounded to next digit due to how the ui is made

[sleek tree]

holy shett...

any tip to faster this achiev?

[opaque sun]

Is also why 779 works

Have some bottled wind, then trade/loot treasures and gem shop to update the trade rate

The trade rate changes depending on how much you have of that said treasure

[merry pulsar]

man is the 1.4% damage increase after beating arena 200 on breeding even worth it..

[sleek tree]

soo its not totally random

[potent lily]

Every % of dmg is worth is tbh

[silk iron]

If you all had to estimate how much money you spent on this game what would it be?

[nocturne dirge]

Isn't there something that prevents you from spending divinity points when getting offerings?

[potent lily]

0

[merry pulsar]

i feel like getting to a trillion damage is just gonna take so long

[merry pulsar]

lava gives out so many gems not even worth it tbh

[potent lily]

Is the random cape worth 1150 gems?

[opaque sun]

Yea, the trade rate is purely based off your amount of loot so not random

[untold saffron]

No, unless you feel lucky rolling one of the 2 great capes, or have none of them

[merry pulsar]

whats the best capes?

[clear quartz]

molten, maybe angel wings, the purple and gold rose ig

[jovial crest]

so this being bugged only means i need to grind it on the 2nd one, right? works fine after?

[clear quartz]

i just realized i have 6k gems just sitting around, time to ponder some gamba or maybe buy something that is actually useful

[jovial crest]

feel i need to gamba the gem shop wings

[clear quartz]

part of me wants to get second excogia, but its so expensive.. and i doubt itllb e that good

[untold saffron]

I rolled a gold rose so it was worth it, could of easily been amorak wings instead though

[opaque sun]

Game doesnt register gem shop purchase until exiting gem shop menu, whatever that means

Cant blame if your local power grid surges when you just made the gem purchase

[untold saffron]

[clear quartz]

forgot i dont have all the inventory/carry cap stuff so ig its more worthwhile than chip gambling

wow, half useless

[potent lily]

Like i only have 1 cape and its the efont so i cant do much

[clear quartz]

i have basic red rose, angel, riftwalker, molten, and.... i think thats it. still need to go farm out all the boss capes at some point

[untold saffron]

Then you have about 4 good rolls and 3 decent rolls among all the capes

Everything else would be a disappointment

[potent lily]

With my luck ill get efont again

[clear quartz]

i think over the next day or two ill have the onyx quest done on all my duders and also be able to wield every dreadlo tool on every dude, and might have all the mats to kit everyone in them as well. then need a new goal to push toward

still need to get everyone in troll gear + i suppose

[opaque sun]

Which basically means magma gear as troll to magma upgrades are so cheap

[clear quartz]

right, troll is the annoying jump for sure, clogs are annoying but those dang threads really rustle my jimjams

[sour oasis]

To increase money gains for upgrading stamps, is the most effective thing to farm gmush?

[sharp vine]

Where might I find a current/up-to-date TD layout for worship maps?

[sour oasis]

current gmush bonus is like 1000%

[clear quartz]

ooo yeah, stampa, i should push some gmush and bubo it up soon

[opaque sun]

gmush farming is a strong buff to a point its even worth designating your 2nd SB to be a gmush afk farmer specialist

[sour oasis]

Mongo worm bubo farming is addicting

I have one SB in lab with goat and another SB with nobi on mushrooms

I think i need BB on arctis or else the 2nd sb needs arctis and cant use nobi

Losing 30% afk gains on BB cooking is worth surely

[sharp vine]

Probably depends on where your cooking is at I guess?

[sour oasis]

I dont know what i make without snake god but i make 600 ladles right now, all meals except last 2 are level 30, highest level meals are around 42

600 ladles/day

[sharp vine]

Got Vman yet? Those extra ladles turning into more plate levels will spiral your cooking upward realllly quickly

[sour oasis]

yea vman talent is 220

total cook speed is like 70 QQQ

[sharp vine]

What's your diamond chef bubble at?

[clear quartz]

i should do some targeted cooking stuff again, kinda waiting for superchows to really do antyhing meaningful tho

or i guess i could lvl the atom void plate thing more too

[sour oasis]

Diamond chef at 56

IDK im feeling as if the ladle production could be higher, but i need more money for the stamps, which loops back around to sacrificing cooking for a little bit to farm GMush for money gains

[opaque sun]

why the sacrifice

[sour oasis]

drop snake from BB

BB on arctis for lab and cooking at same time

take 2nd SB out of lab put him on nobi

[opaque sun]

Bb doesnt add much to gmush killing anyway as he is a non-combatant supporter

[clear quartz]

my gods are kinda booty as far as my allocations, but i feel like im having steady gains somewhat. wasting like 4 dudes tho

[opaque sun]

Bb should be doing cooking most of the time, and when he afk kills, he only does it in w5 where candies cant be used

When chowing BB, he uses candies

[clear quartz]

mine is parked in w5 right now, hoping i get some nice dmg increases to make superchowing more efficient with candy soon, but i think bb is gonna suck at getting the kills regardless

[opaque sun]

you really shouldnt do w5 deathnote before you are done with w1-w4

[clear quartz]

all my elephants are parked in lab, since for the most part they suck at afking anything anyway, aside from second sb being semi ok at afk kills

[opaque sun]

The immidiate ladles you get for ladle now gives more buffs to meals than waiting to ladle later

you got 8 guys in lab/actis? Which is too much

And like where are your printer guys with hare

[clear quartz]

second god with hare on both ES'

[jovial crest]

hmmmmmm

[clear quartz]

i suppose dk could be hare since he was an accident being on bear, still 7 is a bit much but i cant quite get the suggested setup with lab

[opaque sun]

Just fyi, the minor link that applies to everyone (eg hare) doesnt activate if used on ES talent

[clear quartz]

oh interesting

so should be hare maina nd bear second?

[opaque sun]

So you should have hare/actis instead of arctis/hare for full effect

[clear quartz]

gotcha

gonna probably do some sampling tomorrow and can reset my ES stuff then after doing my god shufflin

i suppose i could do it now, but its so exhausting

[clear quartz]

finally ran into the cursed overlapping orbs at 274, thought it was higher than that, huh

[opaque sun]

267 is the magical number to not overlap

Or 300 if you intentionally remove the po mana box, which offers more gains if you can manage

[sacred verge]

it it worth it to remove po mana box?

[azure spindle]

what happens when you overlap? does it clear the old one when you activate it again or do you have 2 out for a bit?

[daring ravine]

The previous one poofs

[opaque sun]

when orbs overlap, the overlap doesnt do anything bad, but the issue happens when the first orb disappears that it resets the kill count of 2rd orb

[noble mesa]

I joined the T club

[opaque sun]

So effectively you lose like 5-10 seconds worth of peak orb kills

[azure spindle]

oh so some weird probably unintended coding effect again

[opaque sun]

so the current way to prevent it is either to keep talent duration the same as duration so it cant overlap, or go full in to like 310+ levels where the overlap loss still happens, but you just get more net gain from the talent

[azure spindle]

yeah cause longer up time = higher orb count makes sense

[opaque sun]

The 270-290 zone just happens to be the weird “you lose more” zone

[azure spindle]

I guess the only skill that really matter for DK in that case is the statue and with vw skill enhancement that won't be much of an issue so resetting PO probably ideal

[opaque sun]

The slower cooldowns on refinery isnt a issue now as that talent sucks in relative to current cycle time

And many of DK kills comes from attacks that ignores cooldown to some degree (eg. Statue shockwaves, and DK passive shockwaves)

[sacred verge]

so youre saying its worth it to rset PO?

[opaque sun]

300 no mana box gives like 5-8% more gains of drops than 267 with mana box

[sacred verge]

nice

il do that then

[opaque sun]

considering you can farm gems, its not bad to reset your active DK

[sacred verge]

i got two of those resetters lying around anyway

events are generous 😄

[glossy rain]

The atom snail upgrade, does it always remove at least 1 snail upgrade or am i save at lvl 5 when upgrading to 6

[ebon yew]

Hi

[opaque sun]

resets to the closest multiples of 5 that you have ever reached before

So if you trigger a fail at snail lv9, snail goes back to lv5

If you fail when snail level is 10, it basically never fails as it just stays at 10

[uneven violet]

Imagine failing at level 4

And then going to level 10

[jovial crest]

💀

[foggy apex]

is this a permanent damage buff for my actual characters?

[sinful aurora]

Permanent for the entire week, when the boss changes, it resets.

It stacks every time you select it.

[foggy apex]

oh bet

does it stack with previous buffs? or seperate?

[sinful aurora]

Not sure i understand the distinction you're trying to make. You gain more damage every time you click it. If you click it 4 times the same day, you gain 4 stacks. If you click it 4 time the day after, you're now at 8 stacks.
When the week changes and we get a new boss, you go back to 0 stack.

[opaque sun]

Its dmg buff for outside the weekly battles, but not permanent

[foggy apex]

i mean like if i have 100 damage and its increased by 5% it turns into 105 damage but say i get a second buff of 5% thatd make it 110.25
where as if its straight 10% inrease than it just goes straight to 110
when numbers are as small as 100 it dont really matter but its just an example

[sinful aurora]

Pretty sure it's additive with itself but i didnt pay attention. For all i care, numbers get bigger.

[foggy apex]

anyways im happy i hit 200m+

[austere path]

Sir, what should i max lv talent in Siege breaker,pirate flag or plunder ye deceased?

[sinful aurora]

Pirate flag put only 1 point.

[molten cairn]

[sinful aurora]

If you want to farm plunderous mobs, you need to max plunder ye and also unlock the enhancement from vman talent. Without it it's not worth doing.

[austere path]

Thanks

[left fossil]

How high are people going with red salts? 50 atm and the other salts are still miles behind. Wondering if it's wise to up the red salt vial a bit.

[fast grail]

never ending, just keep pushing red salts, they only get faster and faster. upgrade vial if you wont lose too much br/stockpile of red salts for other things

[opaque sun]

that is also why its not really worth trying to set up infinite salt ratio

[left fossil]

Red is sooo much faster, doubt it's even possible

at higher lvls at least

So far I'm trying to do it with the W3 guide and leave all salts 1 lower

[opaque sun]

thats a very very very old technique which you shouldn’t follow (the having rest at rank 1)

[left fossil]

just 1 lower as suggest in the chart

not at 1

[opaque sun]

all salts 1 rank lower doesnt have much reasoning too

[tacit tulip]

right guys I'm going to spain for a few days

so no doubt lava will immediately release world 6 while I'm gone

enjoy it

[uneven violet]

Brazil

@opaque sun u should just try to slowly unlock every salt

Even if it takes ages

Im so close to hullo but my ranks are shit rn

Will be huge once I finally get it tho so I can get voidinstor

[opaque sun]

how can i un-unlock salts when my red salt is like already rank 80 and others kind of following along with it

[uneven violet]

Oh sorry my bad

For some reason I thought u had like no salt

[opaque sun]

I rank lv below than the previous one only works like for very very very early stages

later down the line, the earlier salt just keeps ranking way faster than the next tier of salt

[uneven violet]

I see

My salts alr messed up but when I get nullo I’m gonna go back to resampling and levelling up salts

Works out too cause I’m boosting my dn by a lot

Atm

[dim wind]

I went from 110QQQ to 700QQQ cooking speed just by leveling up the easy ones, thanks 😄

[opaque sun]

Working on ladles now and raising meal levels boosts cooking speed much faster than slogging on doing super chows using irl afk time

[tardy oak]

how you get from 10-11x drop rate to 15 ? i dont find where i get that much more now

[opaque sun]

Theres many but like do you have full set of drop rate obols, and ruby card all those dr cards?

[tardy oak]

ye i have full obol and cards are almost all ruby

[opaque sun]

Drop rate is accumulation of many other small sources so its hard for us to tell whats missing

You might want to check idleon insight for sources of drop rate or check the #1084911530417606656 where it has table of dr sources

The “drop rate calculator” is a good visualization of what you might be missing

[tardy oak]

thanks

[teal lynx]

The quickest way to get some Drop Rate is the Island Adventurer Pack for 20$, after that maybe Doot + Mr Brightside 5 Star Double with Chips and Plunder Kills

[opaque sun]

Its just impossible for us to ask all dunno 50 different sources via chat

[pine yacht]

these took waaaaaay too long ...

aaaaaaaaand I cant kills chaotic kattle with skilling maestro preset :p

[prisma furnace]

That's another thing off the bucket list, King of Food done. Finally took my time to do it xD

Is that trophy good for any particular character? Or just +1 slab

I just imagined 20% food effect might be usefull somewhere

[steady beacon]

worship perhaps? I find that using the +food card preset gives you a ton more souls with soluble gum

having the trophy would add to that.

[granite grove]

could be useful for sampling with speed boost foods, unless if capped

[prisma furnace]

Worship, that didn't even cross my mind.
What sample would that be @granite grove monster samples?

[granite grove]

for skill samples, also maybe idle skilling trophy if capped on speed as another choice iirc

[pine yacht]

as well as trapping

when collecting that is

[opaque sun]

King of food is currently just a worship trophy

previously it used to be also a damage trophy for SB, but with statue buffs thats no longer viable for damage

[pine yacht]

I had 77.8 M offer for sailing but not enough mats, so I bombarded the island for the mats but forgot that claiming changes the value ... I am now just so very sad

[opaque sun]

To be specific, claiming loot doesnt change the trade rate, but if you claim and map change, then it updates

The game updates the trade rate based on your current amount of treasure you have when you enter the map

[pine yacht]

ye I had to change maps to get sailing progress ...

[pine yacht]

I know it used to be like that, but it changed the moment I changed chars, even tho I got no mats in between hopping of chars

it seems to change slightly even when you change chars, like by 1% or smt

[steady beacon]

wait, there's a trapping food? Which one?

[pine yacht]

critter numnums tab 3 anvil

mainly for shiny tho

[steady beacon]

oh ffs. How did i miss that?

Right, off to make a bunch of those then.

[still comet]

Hallo i want to ask, my phone have no option to turn off the screen timeout thing, is their a way to make my character afk while active with the screen timeout active?

[steady beacon]

what phone do you have?

[still comet]

Realme C21Y

[pine yacht]

install an app that keeps your screen awake

like Caffine or something

[soft crystal]

Use autoclicker

[pine yacht]

that's a great way to get banned

[soft crystal]

In idleon?

[pine yacht]

yes

[soft crystal]

Good to know

Shadow ban?

[zealous niche]

#server-rules message

Rule 4

[soft crystal]

Ohh, ok, thx for advice

[prisma drift]

I mean if the auto clicker isn’t actually clicking anything is that really an offense?

Just keeping the screen awake like everyone else does?

[frigid acorn]

ask lilbrother instead of using AC

[zealous niche]

Still using an autoclicker, it’ll be picked up and banned the same way

[soft crystal]

Sorry for my mistake

[opaque sun]

Its not against the server rules to use family slavery, but its against the rules to talk about clicking tools

[soft crystal]

sorry

[prisma drift]

When I was younger I paid my sister like 20$ to finish some challenges I had in destiny because I had to work

I pay for my family to do the grunt work

[vagrant mountain]

spoken like a man of business

[dim wind]

👍

[proud olive]

3.5% mutation enough for unlocking tree on gaming or farm more?

[dreamy rapids]

Just got a nice key chain

7 afk gains not bad at all

[sacred verge]

wdym

[glacial venture]

the christmas tree

the second to last

[sacred verge]

you research as often as possible

the lower the better

[glacial venture]

more often> higher chance

especially with chemical

[opaque sun]

100 times of 1% is better than waiting around to do 3% mere 5 times

[proud olive]

I see tnx

[sacred verge]

impressed by these 2 landing at the exact same number at high stacks, do they drop equally as much allways? i dont get it

literally on the exact same number all the time

[prisma furnace]

well they definately have the same drop rate, but I think it's more a coincidence that they are equal. Mine are at a 200 ish difference

at 220k

[sacred verge]

everytime they drop it seems to be the same amout

see

idk might be bcus its the same drop chance and only drops from crystals (w2)

never noticed it before tho

[opaque sun]

After a certain point of dr, it guarantees a drop thus you get same amounts as it just becomes a matter of how many crystals you killed

[sacred verge]

makes sense

does that mean more DR would not benefit me (for those particular drops)?

[prisma drift]

They are on break points and hitting the breakpoint would drop an additional statue I think?

Especially with the orb bonus

[sharp wind]

What is ur DR to reach that point?

[opaque sun]

And other statues of same mob works on different chance so having more dr helps. Just not specifically for those 2 statues

Each item got different breakpoints based on their base chance. Money breakpoint is just more widely known since its a universal 1/2 base drop chance no matter what mob

[tardy oak]

i just saw that i saved all the guild giftboxes lol

was there a reason i saved them and didnt open? or do you just open?

[zealous niche]

That’s thousands of gems there

I just open

[tardy oak]

ye i was wondering why i didnt open them

[dreamy rapids]

He forgor

[weak kiln]

am i capable of doing the kruk boss

[zinc shoal]

It would take you a long time to do with your current damage, and blood berserker is also 2nd slowest class tbh

[weak kiln]

what does thou suggest then

[zinc shoal]

Pump those number up!

[weak kiln]

fair, kinda lost on how to do that now though

[zinc shoal]

My maestro took 15-30 min on 50b damage

[weak kiln]

alchemy+stamps did decent numbers for me but now im kinda lost on where to go

[zinc shoal]

Berserker would take similar with your current dmg

Hmm, send your ie

[weak kiln]

kk

https://realratman.idleonefficiency.com/

[zinc shoal]

So a quick look tells me you have slacked a bit on stamps, so you can get a lot of damage there!

Alchemy would help too, and for sailing you can get a lot of those sailing skip time items from the quest at the lampar zone. That way you can get a lot more artifacts

Other stuff would be upgrading your armor to troll into magma into the latest version, getting your weapon upgraded

So doing the lower kruk bosses for the mats is good till you’re stronf enough for nightmare later

[severe widget]

is there something in w5 to boost my w1-2 skills a lot?

[weak kiln]

my es? ok 1 min

not very good, i kinda forgot it existed (was a lab slave)

[uneven violet]

Greenstack guild gift boxes

Lab slave is good

Now you will never lab slave it again

[lost sentinel]

Ah ty

I thought I found it

[weak kiln]

ic how it is boss, ty for the help

[lost sentinel]

That's why I deleted my msg 😄

[weak kiln]

o lol

[zealous niche]

With kruk, on the classes with good aoe, if you can one shot a mole with the aoe you can kill kruk

It’s just a matter of how long

[weak kiln]

i just got around to levelling my es, as i said it was a lab slave for a while

hmm

[zealous niche]

So, DK, ES, Bubo are all able to kill kruk

[uneven violet]

And vman

[zinc shoal]

With some investment in bowman you could also oneshot it later

[lost sentinel]

I'm just looking into why my dmg is so much lower compared to you :#

[zealous niche]

Vman does not have good aoe

Not good enough at least

[zinc shoal]

Vman and blood berseker are the slowest classes zzz

[weak kiln]

ig this is carrying me

so are my cards, kinda

[uneven violet]

Yeah I was capping

[uneven violet]

Yes that is important

[weak kiln]

dmg went up just a little bit after rift 16

[teal lynx]

[cursive forge]

question did anyone got blocked by discord.com just now

[lost sentinel]

yeah, had it 2 times

[cursive forge]

alr then its discord's problem

I was so scared I got blocked lmfao

[weak kiln]

it was a while ago for me, chrome discord died so im on mozilla private 💀

[lost sentinel]

Think Cloudflare has problems

[cursive forge]

probably

I already sent a support email and it suddenly worked again

lmao

[lost sentinel]

But that's just on barb

[teal lynx]

The XP-Cards that say "while active" were the Good XP-Cards right?

[weak kiln]

the stamp thing is from es lol, the wizzy tab

[opaque sun]

Its good since its a separate multiplier pool from the exp multiplier you see in character sheet

[tardy oak]

do you use the drop rate at shrine for dr + crystal farming?

[teal lynx]

Good. Just wanted to check if those were the right cards

[opaque sun]

like that is the whole reason you do lab world tour (or better, get moai artifact)

[lost sentinel]

Oh true, blind haha

[opaque sun]

More like how do you not use the shrines

[weak kiln]

also void wep, idk about you

[weak kiln]

ALSO that one 2x dn kills divinity, which also gives minor link bonus as dmg ig

[opaque sun]

but the damage from nobisect minor link is additive to a big damage pool so it will only buff by like say 3-5% in relative to your current damage

[tardy oak]

lab world tour?

[weak kiln]

o true

[tardy oak]

i have all artifacts except latern and socrates

[lost sentinel]

🫣 I should clear w5 more

[opaque sun]

If you have moai, why you even care about using shrines?

[tardy oak]

idk

[opaque sun]

You cant “disable” shrines if you have moai

[tardy oak]

because im stupid sorry

[lilac path]

Just use moai put them in w4 lab since BM mostly sleep there

[opaque sun]

If you are speaking of leveling up the shrines, then active farming dont count towards it

[still comet]

Hey can you still get the idle skilling trophies?

[opaque sun]

yes, lava just moved the npc to the mines or something

#patch-notes📝 message

[sacred verge]

About 18

[sharp wind]

I got 18.95, both of that statue have different numbers

Only off about 1k statue tho

785k statue and 784k statue

[steady beacon]

Can you turn off gilded stamps? Or are you forced to use them?

[plucky badger]

Finally got my last alchemy bubble unlocked. Is there a reason to keep going in the cauldrons anymore?

[coral ravine]

anyone know how to fix shimmer island quests not registering values? "Get highest max HP" and it says i have 5k instead of 670k.

[opaque sun]

it probably says MP

[coral ravine]

I am an idiot.

[knotty urchin]

It prefarms for the next bubbles for world 6

[plucky badger]

Fair enough

[knotty urchin]

but sigils good endgame

[plucky badger]

I’m not far enough in sailing to even upgrade the last w5 bubbles yet hah I may just stick 1 person on each so there’s some gains going

[surreal oxide]

Where’s the best place to farm box statues

[daring ravine]

W3 mobs
Crystals dont drop

[surreal oxide]

Which mobs in w3 do you recommend

[opaque sun]

like there isnt much choice

only sheepies and penguin drops them, while penguin has a bit higher drop chance. And ES active basically ignores any bad mob layout

if doing afk, do a 1hr candy on both place and choose the one that drops the most (should be penguins)

[pearl cedar]

What ya'll gettin on 8hr natures nowdays

[feral hemlock]

Is there a money cap on mobile?

I just had like 111godshard and it 's gone

[safe harness]

Npc is gone but you just enter code in w1 town as if the npc were there… last reward takes like 2 months

[grizzled elk]

its still there, but since there isn't a higher currency and more than 99 of a currency isn't a thing, the digits get pushed to the right

[still comet]

Ok

[feral hemlock]

Oh ok

[grizzled elk]

so you have 116 godshard

[grizzled elk]

IS NPC got moved to the last mining map with last update I think

[grizzled elk]

you can check IE to see how much money you have, on the dashboard

[fathom lagoon]

Can confirm he’s on the starfire/dreadlo ore map

At the very bottom

[fiery plume]

I finally got my gaming snail. Does log and chem lower the mail time or is it on daily reset?

[grizzled elk]

daily only

idk about gold stopwatch

[fiery plume]

and do you just get 1 mail per day without any upgrades?

[grizzled elk]

upgrade snail for a chance at an extra mail

[short fulcrum]

any update on lava and the pet thing>?

i'm waiting to play

[grizzled elk]

what pet thing? doot being OP?

[bold quiver]

doot op

[short fulcrum]

yeah

that one

[grizzled elk]

nah he still hates us and only released that unreasonable pity system to get around apples rules

[short fulcrum]

oh great

btw what's this thing in the pins with vman and kattlekruk

why do kattlekruk with vman?

[grizzled elk]

achievement for boss gear crafting

kill kruk on each char in order, like previous bosses

[short fulcrum]

haha

oh, who cares? that's only like top of the players that care

and the rest of the players quit bcs of doot, right?

[fiery plume]

If they quit why would they care about pinned comments

[grizzled elk]

nah theres still a lot around, a lot of the end gamers that quit from doot haven't come back afaik

[bold quiver]

yeah only old endgame players raged and quit

most new players love the pet system '.'

[grizzled elk]

idk of anyone who "loves" it lol

[bold quiver]

even f2p ppl, if they get agood pet GG, if they dont get a good pet its the same game

pets are mostly a quality of life update in the end (and of power creep) but i meant in a way that u can easily clear the whole game and get insane dmg without a single pet as it has always been =/

[fiery plume]

Yeah I'm f2p except for auto-loto and I really care about the pet system. I don't think it's good but I personally am not affected negatively by it.

[bold quiver]

yeah if we get a good pet GG awesome, if we dont, same game

and there is always that weekly rush "what if"

i also agree it doesnt change the fact of the predatory fundamentals of gacha systems

[grizzled elk]

difference of opinion then I guess, in the beginning I didn't think this was supposed to be a game based on luck or spending hundreds of dollars for a game changing upgrade

[opaque sun]

even lava didint

[bold quiver]

i was just statics the facts about the gacha system and the game itself. I dont like it and think it shouldnt exist

[grizzled elk]

I still play because its an entertaining waste of time, but the way that update was handled, pre and post release, I'm probably not giving this guy any more money

[opaque sun]

But over the years, money changed lava

[bold quiver]

whole gem shop is insane already '.'

the card packs, extra candies, there is already a ton of money spending stuff deep within the game.
The good part is that u dont need to spend a single dollar to clear the whole game easily

my last acc i got to w5 in 12 days being 100% f2p, chiling, not even any decent pet buffs

[fiery plume]

excuse me

[bold quiver]

that was a speedrun attempt (playing also 100% afk, not active pushing portals ) so dont compare ;[

[cerulean hemlock]

mhmm?

[opaque sun]

getting to w5 itself is so easy, that is why you have so many people askinh w1-w4 questions in w5

[bold quiver]

yep beating the whole game is so easy

[opaque sun]

Its more of a tutorial tho

The real game is the grinding for numbers

The current rushable worlds gives bad ideas to new players thinking this is a combat progress game, which it isnt

[bold quiver]

isnt?

need to rush DPS to clear the whole game tho '.'

[opaque sun]

combat is just to unlock more grinding contents

[bold quiver]

aka beating rift and last mark vman beating kattle

[opaque sun]

Most of the grinding and upgrades comes outside of combat

[bold quiver]

Problem is that people keep asking questions at w5 from other worlds cuz they progressed without actualy playing the game, only followed tips and tricks from chat. so they have no idea how to play the game

[opaque sun]

And many newbs think to get stronger they must fight and gain levels

[bold quiver]

its outrageous that someone at w4 cant even make their own talent build, wtf

[opaque sun]

“I only unlocked 5 bubbles with 20 levels in them. Why you calling me out that i ignored alchemy. Stop trolling and give me better advice besides alchemy”

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk thats exactly how it goes

how do i get dmg?" alchemy.........
Im doing alchemy, how do i get dmg? " alchemy

[fervent brook]

Crystal island is a really good place for Vman to get a few levels lol.

[opaque sun]

“Who is Larry? Why do I need to speak to an NPC to get better at this game?”

[green eagle]

i was saddened by crystal island, but i'll do it tomorrow with vman to get some skill levels i guess

[bold quiver]

i wish the random event island was a daily thing

it would indeed be a great island if it were

[grizzled elk]

crystal island is my next unlock, is it really that pointless? lol

[opaque sun]

Lava was bit stingy on that island

[tidal sky]

I'm finally on my way to being a big boy

[green eagle]

i need to be level 500 to beat larry? okay well tell me how to do more damage then! i need to grind w5!!!

[opaque sun]

Unless the “chance for double boss” is not capped and goes to like 10 bosses each week or so

[fervent brook]

Right now its better than Rando and Fractal (if you are on mobile anyway)

[green eagle]

rando was a HUGE let down for me lmao

[opaque sun]

Trash > Seasalt/Shimmer > crystal/rando > fractal

[fervent brook]

Rando would be good if it was daily. Will be much better once all islands are unlocked lol

[opaque sun]

Rando is actually end end content for islands as that is where all the bottles will go

[green eagle]

i clearly misinterpreted what "guaranteed boss drop each week" meant

[bitter finch]

So if im trying to unlock all plant types, should i collect enough to get .1% chance and try over and over, or just collect 1 and roll over and over?

[grizzled elk]

star book from rando any good? I could get that instead of getting crystal island

[green eagle]

only on chemical really

[bitter finch]

Thats what im om. Ty

[opaque sun]

100 tries of 0.1% is better tha 5 tries of 0.3%

[bitter finch]

I mean do i need to wait until it physically says .1?

If i collect only o e plant it still shows 0%

But i can roll

[opaque sun]

More you save, you are losing % per dna spent

[fiery plume]

man don't do that to yourself

[bitter finch]

Can i just roll this ovwr and over or do i need to wait for enough to say .1%

[fiery plume]

at least collect your screen and then click the button

[opaque sun]

Its a minor buff that scales with total number of random event mob exclusive items you registered on slab

So if you never got any of those random event exclusive items, it does nothing

[bitter finch]

@fiery plume i have been doing that for a month atleast and cant get chemical so at this point ill try anytbing.

[fiery plume]

I just got it this week

[opaque sun]

research per “harvest all” is usually the way

[bitter finch]

K

[potent gust]

Had 7 low tier chests. Got both. Wasn't excepting it

also little mark hit

[neat barn]

https://aidsmaster.idleonefficiency.com anything else i could be doing gaise? a bit stuck uwu

plan to be on div til goat god

[zinc torrent]

[grizzled elk]

oh boy...

[iron mesa]

Alchemy, for sure

[neat barn]

yup, my goal is to put everything to 30-40 at least

after goat was planing to spend like a month with everyone in lab, i like to do things in batches

[grizzled elk]

just skimming, and I don't mean to be a dick, but it looks like you just need to be working on everything

[neat barn]

for sure, but priority wise..

[opaque sun]

quantity wins over quality in this game

[grizzled elk]

I guess I'll go world by world and check the basics

[potent gust]

Your lab

[neat barn]

yes, but it would be better to wait til god 5 no? im already at nobi

[potent gust]

i'm not sure in your situation if going for Goat is better than focusing on everything else based on being behind

[grizzled elk]

W1 forge is empty, anvil points, boss key quest

[potent gust]

Imo you should bear for a week rather than wasting all your characters in divinity

you're just gonna lock yourself of any decent upgrade because of wanting to go for gods especially based on the divinity amount necessary for later gods

[neat barn]

i have the 6 gem upgrade tho on the altar

but thanks gaise, will change things a bit

[potent gust]

i'm just saying to move your characters as a temporary solution, just my 2cts here

If you want to progress, you must be more productive than sticking them on the divinity

You can continue divinity but you'll lock you from many fast upgrades

[grizzled elk]

W2 unlock all bubbles, get off sigils until you get cauldrons upgraded, vials, boss key quest

[potent gust]

For example, resampling could a thing to go for

To focus on the important ressources for alchemy, upping everything that way

In order to work on refinery etc too

[opaque sun]

some misunderstanding with new players is that just because a guide say its good to rush divinity for few days, all they think is either 10 guys in divinity or 0 guys

[neat barn]

actually was someone from this chat that told me to do it. and after goat get lab done

[potent gust]

Pretty much, getting two / three gods is cool and not too slow

[opaque sun]

Like you can just have 2-3 in div making good progress while doing other stuff

[potent gust]

but going for goat in your situation will freeze you from everything else

[opaque sun]

new guys rush towards unlocking arctis, but not making use of if

[potent gust]

If you could rely on 3D Printing having more lab nodes, you could free some on them

[neat barn]

am 2 days from the rabbit, got a 100% and it would take me more or less that timeframe to get the points

[potent gust]

I can give you my setup for comparaison (even if i've unlocked goat and i'm quite more advanced)

The rabbit is quite useless based on your printing results

[neat barn]

ofc, would love that!

[potent gust]

you'd have faster (imo) to resample everything

[neat barn]

yea yea, just saying that goat is not that far imo

would say 2 weeks tops

[potent gust]

https://lilith_rolled.idleonefficiency.com/

[neat barn]

tyy

[potent gust]

But you screw yourself for 2 weeks

so we can't really help you

i've redone my sampling like 1 month ago, unlocked me SO MANY things

and I could redo it again already to make things even more brrrr

[neat barn]

nah, you guys are right, just wanna make sure because ive been told to do that from here too

[potent gust]

but i'm waiting to have access to all possible ressources

What they told you isn't wrong, goat is quite the first main goal for divinity

and then you can free them (for lab lol)

but it's quite based to have solid basics

[neat barn]

indeed, the keys quest should be an easy start

[potent gust]

My resample allowed me to go for alchemy, then i maxed ALL nodes in lab

allowed me to free 4 characters, to have Vman

to boost everything

to then have Goat + Omniphau linked to maximize everything

[sacred verge]

When playing idleon on other devices do i need to keep away from my atom collider?

Isnt there a thing where it changes from 1050 to 10 m or something, making it eat all items?

[grizzled elk]

I think atom limit is saved per device? so as long as your device is set the same on each device you're using it should be fine

[sick sentinel]

If hou turn it off it shoudl solve that i believe

[grizzled elk]

I just have collider turned off because it converts at 1050 anyways

[sick sentinel]

Thats at least how i understood it

[sacred verge]

Så if i left pc with collider on i cant enter game on phone?

Thats what ur saying?

Or does the issue only appear ig i open collider page

[grizzled elk]

not sure on that one, maybe wait until someone smarter comes along

or hop on your phone and let us know lol

[sacred verge]

Lol sure

Ig my stacks are gone it will be a sad day

[grizzled elk]

I would turn the building off and make sure it cloudsaves before you start on your phone

[brittle pilot]

Is magma/kruk gear best for voidwalker? Any of its specific gear useful?

[sick sentinel]

I did full kruk for the respawn in sleedruns and then drop rate

[cerulean hemlock]

AH GOD NOT THE UWU

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrate-gif-22469816

[surreal oxide]

Should i be using this talent on vman for candying w3 onyx statues

[autumn wasp]

what are u candying on vman on w3?

[surreal oxide]

this is me with the talent

[surreal oxide]

cryo snakes for the constructions tatue

[autumn wasp]

why vman tho

[grizzled elk]

why on vman?

[surreal oxide]

drop rate talents

and multi kill

i tried candy on other statues with other chars, vman has given me the highest numbers per hour

[autumn wasp]

vman kills doesnt count for DN

[surreal oxide]

despite big dmg diff

[hardy quarry]

ES is way better for statues in w3. Candy takes 10x longer

[surreal oxide]

hmm

my ES is too slow

This will take me a few days per statue of active on ES

[autumn wasp]

what is ur afk gain rate

[grizzled elk]

ES should be better candying them

[surreal oxide]

hmm i might be doing somethign wrong then

[grizzled elk]

and your DR is better on ES anyways lol

[surreal oxide]

my vman with less dmg gets almost 2x more statues than my ES from candy

[sacred verge]

No vman is best for candy statues