lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[lean aspen]

World 6 already available?

[spice frigate]

no lol

[runic token]

I bought new bribes twice but it only gave me new bribes once, did I get scammed?

[teal lynx]

There is only one set of new Bribes. I guess I kinda understand why you bought it again, since it doesn't get grayed out/disappeared, but those mistakes can be avoided by looking at the Wiki

[bright current]

How tf u buy em twice

[opaque sun]

Like what were you expecting to get

[runic token]

I assumed there would be MORE new bribes since it was still an option

pretty obvious no?

[opaque sun]

No. As people use wiki to check what you get

[runic token]

He should fix it and it shouldv'e been correct in the first place, without needing to rely on wiki

[bright current]

[teal lynx]

There was this very obvious bribe tag that disappears after you buy Fish Bribes. I don't think that there is anything he need to fix. A few things in the Shop need to be rebuyable, Bottles, Trash Increase, Stamps - since a lot of people forget to pick them up, Nametag for all 10 Characters. And Lava's coding will always be the same -> Shops are consistent - you can buy everything an unlimited amount of time, therefore you can also buy the bribes an unlimited amount of time

[runic token]

There's a daily item limit for every item in every shop. If there's a daily limit, there can just as easily be an all time limit.

[bright current]

What the shit are you talking about

[teal lynx]

Yeah, but those Shops reset daily instead of never

Lava's coding is absolut dogshit for some mechanics! I totally agree
But he won't grey out one item in a shop of unlimited buyable stuff

Those Items are all INFINITE instead of xy amount

That's the difference

Lava won't code 2 different mechanics into 1 shop

[runic token]

Yeah that makes sense I guess, maybe he shouldn't have added it in that shop then and just given us new bribes.

[teal lynx]

Maybe. But also don't wanna seem agressive here
Best thing to do when it comes to expansive items is to check the Wiki or ask here in W5

[runic token]

I can't be the only person who's out 135 garbage over this. And if numerous people are making the same mistake, seems like an issue to me.

[teal lynx]

I know it seems bad wasting 135 Trash, but at the end of the day u "only" lost about 15 Days worth of Trash

[bright current]

You cant be the only one, but you are certainly in a tiny minority

[tight saddle]

https://i.imgur.com/BZSQV34.png

GIBE ALL THE COINS

[daring ravine]

my other question is how do you get 270 trash before wasintg the 135 trash right away

[viral snow]

Just flex it like people flex their pickle bob vials

[bright current]

Wheres that MF with 2 untradeable doots

Get him to flex

[tight saddle]

Wait is unlocking new bribes a scam? I am almost at 135 trash

[high hatch]

If I don't have archer talents for sailing to upgrade chest quality, the ships should come to docks and stay full until I use the chests that are already full. However, I only get like 3 extra chests to open, is that supposed to be that way?

[bright current]

Only if you buy it twice. Theres only 1 set of bribes from it, not 2

[strong escarp]

How can i upgrade my drop rarity rate to 20% as its, for what I've heard, the cap rn

[bright current]

Like, regular drop rate drop rarity?

[sacred verge]

20% drop rate?

[tight saddle]

Could you elaborate? I didn't quite get that

Ships don't always give a chest when they come back for one at least

[runic token]

I think I might be the only one...tried finding someone who made the same mistake and can't find a single person. Guess this is on me then.

[bright current]

Well thats just hilarious

[runic token]

Yeah kind of is, just salty I suppose

[tight saddle]

I kinda wanna say that it's part of the Idleon Experience™ Sometimes you get trolled bad, especially when you're at the point where you can push new content a lot early

[runic token]

couldv'e bought all 3 new stamps -_-

well the first 3

[sacred verge]

thats life, you learned the hard way 🙂

[high hatch]

Oh. I mean, I have 23 chests, all the ships are in docs, I start opening them and it goes to 22 but fills up to 23 again in a second, I do that let's say 3 times, and then I have 22 chests left. My assumption was without the archer talent to improve chest quality you just get more chests which is better overall.

[sacred verge]

more chests is better yes

[tight saddle]

Yeah I guess the talent helps if you have massive sailing time income

[runic token]

Is it even possible to defeat weekly boss lvl 5? I keep getting him below 30% but once I do all the attacks only do a miniscule amount of damage all of a sudden.

[teal lynx]

There is a Chart for the Weekly Battle. I will try to find it

[high hatch]

Not massive, just 24h, but thought would get more than 3 extra chests

[opaque sun]

This week’s weekly battle tip is more of using as many rewinds as possible than one super buffed hit

due to how the last buff goes into the “cant use buff on next turn”

[zenith cape]

I love how every time one of my characters does 0 damage and 0% buff. Always cool, wowee

[fast grail]

Sounds like neglect or skill (level) issue

[teal lynx]

This should hopefully get you there

[opaque sun]

unless super neglected skills/kills

[zenith cape]

The one that was actually super neglected does damage so i dunno tbh

[opaque sun]

Weekly battles boils down to get as many rewinds, and buffs along the way, then strike down on last few moves as the damage carries over to the next difficulty

Its more of if you neglected in the required objective than neglected in general

[zenith cape]

Yeah but it's always the one siege breaker that does 0 anything. Buff,skill,or damage and it's not because I chose something that makes him do 0 anything

[opaque sun]

Like whats the objective for your sb

[zenith cape]

Objective? The little flavor text under the boss animation?

[opaque sun]

Each character gets an objective to determine their magnitude of their action for that week. If say character slot 3 is asked for certain mob kills, but he never ever killed that mob, obviously the magnitude of the action is going to be 0

It doesnt matter if he got 50000 class levels and 40000 catching levels. If he is not asked for those objective, his general strength does nothing

While one of your least favorite character like say BB can dish out nice numbers if the objective for him asks for fishing skills and he has okay fish skill levels

[zenith cape]

Oh I see, I'll check next time. I thought it was just flavor text. Thanks for letting me know

I'm pretty sure it was a book so maybe he needs exp? I dunno, I'll check tomorrow

Thanks again tho for the help

[opaque sun]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Weekly_Battles

Expand the “list of possible tasks”

[zenith cape]

Yea it's probably lv.175 class exp

Lol

Thanks. I'm just gunna skip out on these in the future. Cuz I don't meet the requirements for more than half of these lol

[opaque sun]

By w5 it should be easy tho…

[teal lynx]

Atleast killing 3 or 4 of the Difficulties for easy trophies

[zenith cape]

Yeah I can kill 4 now but I don't have the alchemy trappin cookin lab etc required for later. So I'm just gunna skip it

[last quiver]

6 hour cosmic candy :(

[steady beacon]

this is amazing. where did this come from? is it something we can expect to see each week? 🙂

[unreal magnet]

Tf is that

[teal lynx]

Some people put it together on Day 1 of this Weekly
I believe they will do this for every week

[steady beacon]

love it

[teal lynx]

Optimal route for the Weekly Battle in W2

[opaque sun]

332231 means first choose 3rd action, then another 3rd acfion, then 2nd action, then another 2nd action followed up by 3rd action then a 1st option

[granite grove]

its clearly choosing the 332231st option for the 1st choice

[opaque sun]

Yeah, im still scrolling through the actions since last Thursday

[primal bison]

Dk best for overall statue drop?

[tall notch]

Just got the 2 artifacts from cloud island after going there like twice. Neat, time for some gaming gains ig

[teal lynx]

Yes, except W3 and Fishing Statues

[tall notch]

Fishing statues can honestly suck it, im getting 24 an hour lol

[opaque sun]

specifically, dk is good for things that crystal drops, but crystals dont drop every statues

[zinc torrent]

How can I fix this mess?

[steady beacon]

How do you guys handle yellow bubbles? I'm coming up on lvl 100 on most of them, and the material cost is getting ridiculous. Do you just let those get upgraded by NBLB, and focus on the ones that you can print?

[opaque sun]

What mess. Just keep ranking up

[balmy harness]

What statues should I turn into Onyx first?

[opaque sun]

Dont bother with “infinite cycles” as thats an old concept made back when refinery rank ups were thought to take longer

[steady beacon]

you want to make all of them onyx before turning in statues. so whichever ones you have 20,000, and work on the rest.

[balmy harness]

ok

[opaque sun]

The 20k to make them onyx isnt added as exp so order doesnt matter

[zinc torrent]

So the ratios doesn't matter? Just keep ranking up on everything indefinitely?

[lament shale]

for the red salt yes... for the other one, no

[opaque sun]

ratio only matters for infinite cycles, which isnt meta or anything

[lament shale]

the idea is to ensure you never totally bottledneck on one type of salt

[opaque sun]

Its just a minor qol for sacrificing lot of gains

it came from the illusion that running out of salt is a bad thing

[lament shale]

cause you need to get an excess of some salt type for crafting your tools and gear

it totally depend on which stage of the game your are at to be fair

[opaque sun]

Infinite cycles just “slows” certain refinery to make it seems likes its not hindering, but in fact you are just hindering overall progress

[lament shale]

when you are crafting with blue or green salt a lot to make your new tools ie

[opaque sun]

If you need certain salts to craft something, you can always just turn it off

[lament shale]

which will be delaying your rank up

so at the end ...

[versed cypress]

current meta is just that right, push salts to however much you can support withyour productions and when needed just, turn them off

[opaque sun]

infinite cycle also is just the same, with just an illusion it seems like its doing something

[lament shale]

I personnally just put them at 50 or 90% and evolve them when the previous one can support it

[opaque sun]

Salts rank up goes to like once every day or even few times a day, so the concept of infinite cycles is a noob trap

[lament shale]

by puttin them at 90% then when I want to rank them up I don't have that much to wait

[opaque sun]

like that guide was made waaaay before omni was a thing and when refinery cycles took much longer

[lament shale]

seems we obviously don't have the same refine cycle time... you must be way way way ahead of me cause I don't rank up multiple time a day

[opaque sun]

but somehow it always lures noobs misunderstanding as “mets ratio”

The red salt requirement caps out at 1m per rank

So the rank up speed snowballs like past 30-40

[teal lynx]

Don't they go to 0 when they hit 90%?

[lament shale]

they do, but if you monitor your refinery

turning it from 90% to 0% don't make you loose your progres

[opaque sun]

Getting to rank 1 to 20 is the longest, but it gets faster and faster

[lament shale]

and it's way faster to fill it from like 85% to 100% than 5% to 100%

I just do that cause i'm checking IE like every few hours at worst

[opaque sun]

Rank 70 ish becomes like one rank per day, and thus speed ups to multiple ranks ups a day

[lament shale]

yeah so what I though, we are at totally different stage of the game

where I am, I need both nullo and green salt

[opaque sun]

Following “infinite cycles” just delays you to reach that point

[lament shale]

keeping refinery rank in a way i got an excess of green and keep gettin nullo is really good for me rn

pretty sure my opinion will shift when i'm done with earlier salts

I never ever stop ranking up my red salt however

[opaque sun]

done crafting things using earlier salts to be specific

[lament shale]

just no point at delaying red salt rank up like ever

[lament shale]

yeah exactly

[opaque sun]

definitely keep ranking red salt, but just dont bother with the ratio

Just slow/turn off the ones you need salt for crafting

[prisma furnace]

The bonus that gives you bits pr. achievement, where is that?

[teal lynx]

Gaming, Superbits -> Top Left

[prisma furnace]

Ty ❤️

[stone thunder]

Thinking about unlocking the last 2 divinities, is there any point in getting divinity points after that?

[opaque sun]

god ranks fuels some damage via ES talent

Current realistic highest god rank is like 4 tho, so not a super high bonus. But its still something

[teal lynx]

And every god rank gives you an XP Multiplier to Divinity (10% per Rank?)

[opaque sun]

Yeah, which is like whatever honestly

But tiny helps to get people to div level 130-150

[teal lynx]

Yeah after the 10 Gods I just went with TranQi and never touched Divinity again

Omni too valuable compared to some God Ranks

[dense cargo]

Yo, was it me being over preoared or is the w5 boss quite easy?

[unreal fox]

soon

[opaque sun]

w5 boss doesnt have any attack. Its just a dps check damage dummy

[daring ravine]

why do i gain 2 tickets/day

[dreamy rapids]

Because you accidentally got one already

[solid epoch]

about what lvl big P did you need at lvl 130 divinity for max bonus? im about to be there on most of my chars

nvm found it, lvl 540 big P with lvl 134 divinity

[daring ravine]

i never collected one manually

[dreamy rapids]

Maybe you didn't notice

[daring ravine]

i was never even remotely close a collo

[teal lynx]

Are u always getting 2 Tickets?

Or just today

[daring ravine]

since 2 days ago

[teal lynx]

Hmm so u did the quests

[daring ravine]

used to get 3
now just 2

theres no reason for it to stop giving it to me if it used to give me 3

[teal lynx]

Maybe try to collect them manually tomorrow and see if one of them doesn't give you a ticket

[somber lance]

I had similar problem. I was only getting w1 keys when i had both w1 and 2 unlocked and only 2 tickets

it somehow got fixed over time tho

[opaque sun]

if you enter the zone of colo ticket guy, it sometimes just drops it and you auto pick it up

same with keys

You can also sometimes miss picking up the ticket/keys if you enter the zone and quickly move out before you noticed the npc dropped it

[random saddle]

New pet cycle on next patch

[opaque sun]

When lava says doing something exciting, he means for his bank account to prepare for a grand christmas turkey lambo

[random saddle]

Yea making his life exciting not us

We sadge

Hw much dollar for a dood?

[granite grove]

up to $505 maximum, forgot the average cost tho

[random saddle]

Dem

[daring ravine]

explains

im grinding pissflakes right now so thats probably hwere my tickets are going

[opaque sun]

we used to lose lot of w2 keys back when snelbies was the meta exp farm and back when we didnt have auto loot

[untold lintel]

im at 91/200 on the pity if I recall, so almost 250$ no doot

[potent gust]

My ES #1 reached 45M of damage
My ES #2 reached 20M of damage
My DK is 3rd with... 7M. Sadge

[lament shale]

DK scaling is way slower than ES (at least at start)

so kinda normal

[vale wadi]

i m happy got chemical

[autumn quail]

do you get trash on rando island after u bought bribe

[vale wadi]

is there a point for mutation now?

[potent gust]

Oh yeah it's logic but like since I want to push with my DK it just sucks haha

[lament shale]

my experience with DK pushing is : I tend to get just enough dmg to OS everything with shockwave while active, but the overall sheet dmg is disapointing for a long time

[potent gust]

Pushing w5 that way urggggg I need to farm active with my ES for more pop obols tho

[lament shale]

yeah I feel the same, I just made peace with the fact, early on DK kinda poopoo at afk pushin

active DK don't really struggle even with just crit (if you can't push far above 100% crit)

just due to shockwave having good dmg

[unreal fox]

3/10 progress

[somber sparrow]

u printing or farming?

[urban hinge]

What must I do?

[prisma vigil]

Re-enter the map

Just go in and out a portal. He doesn't update the quest dynamically

[urban hinge]

Thx

[livid raft]

Soon 😄

[unreal fox]

farming

1h = 60m

[somber sparrow]

Soon XD (i wish)

[strong escarp]

Drop rarity

[steady beacon]

i'm confused. I just unlocked the constellation that gives +30% carry capacity (which was technically already infinite), but it didn't increase my capacity in any way. How come?

Are infinite star signs active even if you haven't unlocked the constellation?

so there's literally no point in unlocking older constellations at this point ?

[gentle furnace]

only if you want to double it with chips

[steady beacon]

got it, thanks

[humble valve]

hey guys is it worth it to chase crit chance higher than 200% does getting 300% add a mega mega crit?

[opaque sun]

its only for shimmer island crit chance task

[gray schooner]

in vman speedruns, do skilling portals (mining area, etc.) also count?

[surreal glade]

No sadly afaik

[cerulean hemlock]

https://alexaaaaaa.idleonefficiency.com/
May someone suggest what I do to improve my spice gathering? It' rather slow at the moment

[vale wadi]

is there a reason to do mutation after you got them all by gaming?

[cerulean hemlock]

Nope!

[vale wadi]

ty

[sacred monolith]

Follow the pets tab of this guide https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

If you have converters unlocked, update your setups and you shoudl be able to unlock all the areas and get enough spice for what you need

[cerulean hemlock]

Which pet is converter?

nvm bop box

[sacred monolith]

Yep, if you follow that, you'll have pets finished in no time. I was in a similar situation.

[gray schooner]

uhm, so when i clicked on the map just now all my captains returned at once and i now have 20 chests waiting with a max chest number of 19??

[opaque sun]

dunno, maybe had like a sail progress proc from gold hampter?

[teal lynx]

Yeah seems like you had a very large amount of Sailing Time accumulated
I think the Game tries to go through all sailing time in a fixed amount of time (a few seconds) and the first second was all you needed

[fathom lagoon]

Yup happens to me all the time lol

When I check after 24 hours w an Omni proc too

[green eagle]

yep even using one of the sailing consumables maxes you out quickly too

I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE MY NUGGET JUMPED

i was doing chem harvesting this morning

went from 42,999 to this JUICY GOLDEN BOY

[dreamy rapids]

Awsome

Still stuck at 50k

[dreamy rapids]

Gaming sucks

[green eagle]

i was fine with my nugget honestly, i was making gains with it either way

now i'm like high af ☁️

[pine yacht]

I dont even have chem yet

[signal osprey]

Boycotting the nugget until its not a trash mechanic

[pine yacht]

been gaming since it released ...

[pine yacht]

considering how many mechanics are like that u mind as well stop plaing the game

[sacred verge]

ive been gaming since before release

[green eagle]

it really is awful. SO many great, FANTASTIC ideas to fix or help nuggets have been posted. meanwhile lava when it comes to gaming👨‍🦯

[signal osprey]

Theres not a single mechanic in the game as heavily weighted against the player as the nugget lol

[pine yacht]

true, gaming in general

[balmy harness]

Were is the best place to farm statues for a Hunter?

[sick sentinel]

candy mining

[balmy harness]

okok

[pine yacht]

80 Cooking Clogs are gonna take a hot minute

[sick sentinel]

go to the highest ore you have 100% efficiency, get your skilling speed up with food if need be, pump drop rate and afk gains

[pine yacht]

isnt that shit based on LUK instead drop rate ?

[sick sentinel]

?

[pine yacht]

as in more LUK more chance the loot actually being rolled into something other than ore

[sick sentinel]

are you talking about the stat luck or being lucky

[pine yacht]

stat

[signal osprey]

Luck doesnt affect your loot at all aside from giving you more drop rate

[sick sentinel]

why would that have anything to do with it

[pine yacht]

I know for a fact that I get more other bs than I do the shit I am skilling on maestro, it's been like that before

dunno if it changed

[signal osprey]

Thats because luck gives drop rate

[sick sentinel]

you probably had more drop rate on mman

[pine yacht]

no, not really

[signal osprey]

And maestro also has a talent for drops from rare bags which is really strong too

Which isnt shown in drop rate

[pine yacht]

he is pretty dogshit when it comes to his DR

[signal osprey]

So even with the same drop rate he still technically has more than other classes behind the scenes

[pine yacht]

ah didnt know it didnt get calculated in

but ye either way he is in fact still best for farming those right ?

[signal osprey]

If you mean cooking clogs then yeah if you're afk

Active would be ES

[sinful aurora]

Cooking clogs arent a rare drop, so no, wrong example.

[signal osprey]

He still has higher drop rate than other classes so hes still the best

[sinful aurora]

His bonus is towards drops that aren't in the base monster's drop table.

[signal osprey]

And I mentioned the rare bag example because he brought up skilling

Every single item that drops while skilling is in a rare bag aside from the main resource

[sinful aurora]

In this case yes i agree he is best.

[signal osprey]

If afk hes the best regardless though

For cooking clogs the only thing that matters if afk, respawn, and drop rate. The first 2 are pretty equal among all classes and drop rate vman is just better

[sick sentinel]

plus you get some rerolls

if specced into it

[true obsidian]

i would love it if there're 1 "zero" less

[old coyote]

damage dealt and %total damage are two different things right

[steady beacon]

what does the on/off switch on the atom collider do? I'm assuming that it doesn't convert mats to atoms if it's off? I can generally just leave it on all the time, right?

[lament kindle]

If you leave it off, it autoconverts at 1050

[steady beacon]

and if i leave it on?

[zinc torrent]

Anyway to view your do not consume chance?

[dreamy rapids]

The requirements are fucking nuts it's like Sigil but worse

[true obsidian]

iirc, you basicly always got atom? even if you turn off collider, game still count atom for you if you have more than 1050M

[gaunt shale]

its not that bad if you are at endgame, the much bigger issue is having to use all the candy one at a time

[true obsidian]

it still bad even you're in end-game

[tacit tulip]

If you have it on, and switch to another device, that device will set your atom level to 15m, and it will eat all your resources

[true obsidian]

they rather use candy for gmush or skill lv for vman

[true obsidian]

just make sure you don't click on atom collider, its ok

[pastel bramble]

slowly getting there 😄

[signal osprey]

Its actually worse the further endgame you are because none of the bonuses are good

Endgamers are done with sailing and dungeons and are basically capped on cooking too

[true obsidian]

like if you switch device, your "locked slot" in bag will unlock, unless you just play and never open inventory

[signal osprey]

Its a bunch of early game bonuses on an island that requires end game accounts to progress

Just an awful island all around

[sacred verge]

migth be good inw6 tho

[signal osprey]

True but I'm not dumping 40k hours of candy on the off chance that it gets a good bonus

[gaunt shale]

yeah they are not worth it besides the trophy, but archiving it is not that hard unless you consider the Carpal tunnel syndrome you will develope from it

[signal osprey]

It gets no candy until I see something worth while

[sacred verge]

i agree

[dreamy rapids]

Indeed

[gaunt shale]

point was more, the requirements are easy enough to archive, if they are actually usefuly well they are not but oh well

[sacred verge]

also nowhere near 40k hours worth of candy, got like 5k maybe

[true obsidian]

i got 12k...but i'm not doing that 10k just for 100 star point

[steady beacon]

god lord, that's awful. Definitely turning that thing off then.

[tacit tulip]

Happened to me while on holiday

Still not recovered that 1b stack of kraken

[dreamy rapids]

Rip

But is there a reason to have 1B stack of Kraken beside the vial

[pastel bramble]

when afking in fractal island it logs me back in at the fishing island, do these hours count towards afk time or where am i supposed to afk?

[sick sentinel]

dont think so m8

mobile?

[pastel bramble]

nope pc, i log out at fractal island, i log back in and suddenly im at fishing island

[sick sentinel]

idk, did it give you fishing afk gains?

[pastel bramble]

yeah

[sick sentinel]

i dont have fractal so personally dont know

[pastel bramble]

got fish from it lol

[sick sentinel]

i would doubt it counted then

[daring ravine]

Bugged on android

[pastel bramble]

guess i just gotta save crap ton of candies then lol

[sick sentinel]

fractal aint worth it anyway, save the candies for eclipse skulls, skilling, and other things

[versed cypress]

the 2500h bonuse of extra artifact chance is actually quite worth it if you still need more artis

[sick sentinel]

2500 hrs of candy for basically another tier of tusk tho... i guess if you have nothin better to do

[glossy gate]

should i just go for troll armor instead of void?

[sick sentinel]

if u can yeah

[glossy gate]

https://xplosi0n.idleonefficiency.com

i mean idk man

[autumn wasp]

u try afking in town?

[pastel bramble]

u dont get a afk claim screen in town so i just assumed it doesnt work lol

[autumn wasp]

u right

[tall notch]

Ahh finally done with round 200 of pet arena

[midnight pebble]

todays boss spoils, took a smol break to get vman to 450 for trophy DR boost. which also meant less keys for a bit but can move back to dk/bubo for key farm 🙂
11th neck and I think i got like 5obols total

[true obsidian]

does this worth upgrade?

[lavish cloak]

if can do all want things, it be nice. If eat salt with rest of idleon meal, no be good.

[glossy gate]

which one is better? the multikill or the dmg?

[true obsidian]

fair enough

[true obsidian]

multi

[lavish cloak]

breakpoints and goals. voidwalker likes multikill more than damage. gmush farmer likes damage more than multikill

[glossy gate]

so keep both?

[lavish cloak]

you can roll higher % damage if you want damage over afk gains for gmush. i'd have to ask "what are your other keychains" to give you an in depth version of what's better strictly and should you throw anything away. both seem like butt to me >D

i've rolled 200 keychains and been "meh" over all of them.

[glossy gate]

L

keeping for mk idk

that sushi is better for dmg cuz the 1 weapon power is + dmg so idk

[lavish cloak]

sushi is better than the cactus strictly

% stats is where it's at

[glossy gate]

if its arch then its better

or non arch

[glossy gate]

yea ik brrhh

[lavish cloak]

multikill on keychains is base, so you need to REALLY want multikill

[neat barn]

sup

[elfin idol]

What am I missing? My ships had 13 mins left, i swap to a character with 5 hours afk and get no free time procs, but I open ship map and get about 20 mins progress? Happens a lot

[prisma furnace]

Post office

sailing box

[lavish cloak]

i always get some kind of pity progres when i log into a new character, so yes, that is not an isolated event

oh yeah? that's just straight up gauranteed progress?

[elfin idol]

Ohh, I thought this was more proc chance but it actually means 5% of the time i was afk always applies

Yeah i get a few 10 mins here and there on gaming too so makes sense, thanks!

[lavish cloak]

so if you claim 37 hours, you have a guaranteed 2 hour claim regardless of whether or not you get sailing procs

neat

[tacit tulip]

But if it does proc you get 39 hours 😄

[austere path]

Sir, when I play actively on Idleon to look for resources,why my gaming plants don't change at all?

does gaming require afk first so plants can grow/evo?

[lavish cloak]

if you look every growth cycle, your plants have a % chance to grow into new forms of the base plants. this % gets smaller and smaller every time they grow.

so this depends on several rng rolls

[paper sail]

Also depends on your own growth cycle timer and evolution chance

If your time is an hour, sure, makes sense you don't see much

[austere path]

but when I'm just afk for 2 hours, my plants evolve very quickly, but when I play actively for 6 hours there's no change at all?

[lavish cloak]

i'm at red bits, and have spent in all areas of gaming, so this is my gaming screen after not looking at it for a single hour

i'm saying it depends on these upgrades

[austere path]

Ahh,i see thanks you so much sir

Now i understand

[vale wadi]

what is best stratic now with gaming, got all mutations. Should I aim now on a high seashel? its now 18....

[drifting breach]

How do I get more bits so I can unlock snail

Rn I can get like up to 10m per collect total

And I have all mutations

[grizzled elk]

search bits on idleoninsight and see which area you can work on

basically artifacts, dk talent, achievements, meals, or worship waves

[lost tendon]

Should i buy zen cogs? I have 0/8

[neat barn]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml# meta for cogs

[runic token]

does mob respawn effect kattlecruk moles?

I'm 1 shottingthe moles but cant seem to keep up with them even if I'm not hitting kattlekruk

[grizzled elk]

with who?

[runic token]

vman

[grizzled elk]

max movement speed?

[runic token]

400%

I could pick up some more by losing dmg

im at 73b

I'm talking about nightmare btw

[grizzled elk]

nah visual speed is capped at 350 so you're fine

make sure you're close when you use the whip move to hit as many as possible and toss the coin to the back of the group?

idk what else to say, theres a clip in the pins I think if you need a demonstration, idk what problem you're having but you should be fine

[runic token]

I was definitely not using coins properly that's for sure

I'll try again

didn't even know you could aim them -_-

[lost tendon]

what

how do you have 73b and dont know that

[tacit tulip]

using the coin skill is optional tbf

[runic token]

never used him active duh

[tacit tulip]

same with bubo vials and the BM arrow

[lost tendon]

how u get 73b with no active

sheesh

[tacit tulip]

It's morie "active vman is a bad idea"

[signal osprey]

Damage comes from alch

Active bubo means 73b vman damage

[lost tendon]

hmmmm

[blazing zodiac]

is there a way to reduce my spawn rate....for the rifts...

[autumn wasp]

arnt you capped more by what you print?

[signal osprey]

Eventually yes but most of the people I see who ask about damage arent there yet because if they were then they would know how to scale their damage

[tacit tulip]

just print more

[runic token]

sorry was busy kicking nightmare kkruk ass with vman. You active vman? lol, sorry never done that.

[lavish cloak]

there's max 20. you buy them as you can afford them

[grizzled elk]

theres 20 boats

[lost tendon]

my vman is 3mil damage lol, i don't active anything, but i thought that was the way

[lavish cloak]

you can only have 4 captains because 4 captains per daily reset is all the game provides you.

a new 4 captains will be available for you to select from/purchase when everything for the day rolls over

[autumn wasp]

theres level restrictions for the number of captains you see

[lavish cloak]

thank you. i'm sailing level 126, so i'm blind to these facts

i accidentally level 500'd

[runic token]

wish lava would add lab to quick ref

[lavish cloak]

he made doot so you could pay 500$ to not bother with it anymore

[lost tendon]

lol

[runic token]

I just want to swap my chips around faster

[lavish cloak]

wouldn't that be awesome. kinda like mass swapping of obols

[runic token]

yep that too 😦

[lavish cloak]

claim every 2 hours. also sail to harder islands exclusively

i will never log on every 2 hours, so i pathetically use the SB talent that makes boats sail indefinitely regardless of chest capacity

that gets me and my captains extra exp

i turned it off now that i'm concentrating on the last 5 artifacts

[sour oasis]

Can someone explain what this means? My shiny wode boards are continuing to gain progress, im at 100/200 days right now

[tacit tulip]

it's a setting you can put into IT

just a "hey maybe swap to something else"

[sour oasis]

Ah gotcha

[lavish cloak]

yeah, all the islands that are locked behind clouds are islands that are sequentially harder to sail to, and reward higher exp per trip

[autumn wasp]

do u find that better than just upping the min chest?

[lavish cloak]

when you routinely claim 24 hour afk gains, increasing the chest a single level caps out pretty frequently. i could increase the chest rarity twice, but i'm pretty sure that even after 48 hours of afk i would only have like 8 chests

you "should" but i didn't test that myself

i have all 15 islands unlocked. i only know the exp values for the islands themselves, not the cloud exploration trips

sailing is just a time-gated bonus generation machine. a lot like construction. you do your best then get back to the rest of the game.

[neat barn]

https://aidsmaster.idleonefficiency.com halp gaise, is this the best thing I can do atm?

might not be showing but all 10 are in divinity

[autumn wasp]

u can push with 1

[neat barn]

am already at moltis tho

was thinking about letting them in til goat then lab farming for a month or so

[autumn wasp]

I think at that level i farmed pens for po

[lavish cloak]

do the key generating quests on all 10 of your characters for all 3 keys. unlock stamps. unlock bubbles ( assuming you have access to world 5) and put 5 levels into every bubble possible. set up your 3d printer with salt refinery required items like copper ore and oak logs, unlock as many meals in w4 as you can. connect 6 characters to arctis so you can have some lab bonuses unlocked while you party all 10 characters away from the lab. your highest character is your ES by 50 levels at 186, so everyone should be finding high exp areas to afk in and get some talent point foundation before concentrating and specializing in skills. equip a piece of equipment in every slot of gear you can. you have so much of the game ahead of you that concentrating on a single thing will probably be detrimental. just tell everyone to do a different thing and start working on everything.

[neat barn]

Thank you Sadeth!

[runic token]

wow finally beat nightmare kattlekruk on all 10, vman was hanging me up, thanks @dapper prism for your guide!

[lavish cloak]

think of yourself in the stage of the game where you still need to UNLOCK everything. any time invested towards unlocking something (getting a new stamp, getting high enough skill efficiency to move on to a new resource, clearing to a new map, acquiring a new monster/resource card, doing tasks from the task board, discovering new anvil recipes) is where you should focus your active time, and everything else on your account should just be maximizing their afk time by doing something they can get rapidly better at.

[neat barn]

Noted, ill start with putting my other dudes to farm some lvls for talent points and work on the alchemy/printing. Thanks a lot for your time!

[lavish cloak]

happy grinding

[grizzled elk]

you'll be able to when w6 comes out

[fast grail]

Sounds like an alch issue if you are needing to candy

[signal osprey]

[fast grail]

Meh, nothing in w5 really needs candy aside from candying skill nodes for skill levels

Well yeah, portals near the end take 3+ million, final ones are like 6m and 10m

Just work on progressing your overall account so you can eventually get millions of kph on even your worst chars

[autumn wasp]

make sure u accept the quests

[lavish cloak]

This is great practice for w6 Robottikoira

when w6 comes out, w5 will get candy-able, and w6 will be non-candyable (assuming it follows the pattern). and you can be sure you'll need to invest hundreds of afk hours to get everything you want out of w6

looks good. that should also net you higher level cards which will assist your specialization ability

not to mention the spread of loot you'll grab

[teal lynx]

Portals will probably be divided by 10 when W6 comes out. Atleast thats what happened with W4

[lavish cloak]

eventually you'll be filtering loot cuz you don't want it anymore

[knotty urchin]

Which one should I use on my active bubo that is pushign through w5?

[terse furnace]

Pendant

[autumn wasp]

the xp one

[knotty urchin]

okay thanj you

[fast grail]

Yep, but even then people will just instead hit the wall at w6. Doesn’t really help people lowering the portal req as it just makes bad habits of skipping content

[autumn wasp]

unless the 15% dmg lets u 1 shot

[deft grail]

This has been true for every world release, it's all good

[teal lynx]

Oh yeah ^^
This was just like a quick add to the Portal situation. Nothing worth mentioning, but the message was too far above to just throw that message randomly in :D

[fast grail]

As more and more worlds are added, it’s just gonna get worse. It was fine when skipping one or 2 worlds content. Now it’ll be 3+ worlds on content

[deft grail]

It's not even really a problem tbh, there will be more easy sources of damage with each world

The advice will always be the same anyway, "Go back to ur poor cauldrons on W2 they miss u"

[teal lynx]

Also I already hate seeing people in W5 that have not done anything in W4. Don't wanna know how pissed I'm gonna be with people in W6 with lvl 5 Construction, Lab and Alchemy Bubbles unlocked up to W3

[deft grail]

I mean if I were a new player I would try to reach the farthest world as fast as possible for whatever initial bonuses that world gives

[pulsar condor]

Im 1 statue away from all 25 onyx

[deft grail]

Like Sailing gives fat bonuses to any newbie who can find the first few artifacts

[prisma furnace]

When you have all 3 artifacts with +% chance to get an extra box from post office. Can you potentially gain 3 extra or how does that work?

[teal lynx]

Caps at +1 Box

[deft grail]

Plus most people play this game to beat the boss, maybe try to farm boss gear, and call it a day

^ I'd bet, shouldn't assert that

[signal osprey]

Level 5 construction

[prisma furnace]

Dang, so 2 of them eldritched is max you can benefit from then?

[pearl cedar]

It is ok, you get to join us on not being able to answer anyone's question, because by the time we got to that point we were so far beyond where they unlocked it

I would prestige construction if I could. So I can do it all over again

[prisma furnace]

Kinda sucky I guess. Since there is no benefit to get them all up to Eldritch

[pulsar condor]

Not the flags

[lavish cloak]

sorry, working. net is just gain, acquire

[pearl cedar]

Everything

[signal osprey]

Flags would go so fast the 2nd time though

[pulsar condor]

Do you hate yourself?

[clear topaz]

My main is currently fighting through w5, not really a problem but I want to get started with rift, but I was too weak to kill one slime in one hit. I havent update my rings in forever. I just bought a emperors opal, and would it be wise to get another, and have two of them on my main?

[signal osprey]

We live in a world with atomable bob and buffed gem shop cogs

[pearl cedar]

Especially now that i know how to construct

[signal osprey]

A con prestige would be lit

[teal lynx]

Then those Gem Shop flag Items would finally have a usage

[lavish cloak]

a prestige system in idleon seems like a w8 powercreep

[pulsar condor]

Im hella stuff on a rift. I need soooo much more dmg

[deft grail]

If there was ever an idea to Prestige characters, I think that's long gone as the game developed in a different direction

[pearl cedar]

I think skill prestiges the only kind of prestige system that wouldn't make me quit

[signal osprey]

Con needs some power creep now if lava wants us to start maxing anything in it.

[deft grail]

Never say never but people have worked really hard on their characters at this point

[fast grail]

Only thing I am not down to prestige is alchemy and stamps, everything else id be down for

[autumn wasp]

companion prestige

[signal osprey]

Alch prestige

[lavish cloak]

would be fun, especially with tower defense scalability

[pearl cedar]

Library book prestige

[signal osprey]

Unironically yes

Books are becoming so useless

[pearl cedar]

Granted not bad when we can get a 20 on a few hours

[signal osprey]

I've spent a solid 3 weeks just spamming star talents for max level now

[fast grail]

Need to properly get my talents up now that 20 books is so fast

[signal osprey]

Cooking money is done and I'm at 244 on the multikill one

At this point I think I could 20 book every talent on all characters before W6 if I actually cared to

[pearl cedar]

I just keep forgetting to check, so I pick a random book on whatever character im passing through w3 with. Unfortunately that's always DK which is already fully booked

[lavish cloak]

which ones did you care to? i'm only done on DK and working on bubo

[signal osprey]

I have every talent that affects any kind of skilling at max on all characters as well as all damage ones on main bubo DK and SB and most damage ones on everyone else

Honestly I'm probably already done with like 70% of the books anyway lol

[pearl cedar]

I mean there's only like what 600 total talents across all 10 chars, at about 4 hrs a book that's only 100 days. And your probably already have a lot of those talents booked anyways

[signal osprey]

Yeah maybe ill take a break from rolling the money per multikill book for +1 level and just max all my talents

[pearl cedar]

And 50 of those cant even be booked anyways

[daring ravine]

keep gamba..

[pearl cedar]

Do it because once you finish Lava will give a new max

[signal osprey]

You make a good point

[pearl cedar]

Oh Id pay good money for an automation arm that books a random talent on a random char when you get 20 books

[signal osprey]

Time to set a 4 hour timer for library books

[daring ravine]

200$

[pearl cedar]

That's bad money

[daring ravine]

mb
$200

[pearl cedar]

You're right that definitely seems like a companion bonus instead of auto arm

[signal osprey]

So I just need to max all my books and then tag lava in a message with pictures? Yall better be ready to get new max book levels

[daring ravine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/692871219019513856/1040051423162937415/ezgif.com-gif-maker_4.gif

[pearl cedar]

New rift to unlock an extra 5 levels of auto arm.

[daring ravine]

sounds like construction mastery upgrade

[signal osprey]

Lava needs to make the current con mastery possible to complete before he adds more to it

Nobody is getting 2500 building levels any time soon

[pearl cedar]

Pancake says not possible currently i believe pancake

[signal osprey]

Yeah I'm just below 2200 and it's already getting painful

2300+ has to be awful

[lost tendon]

when i am active on my bubo, half of the time its doing nothing, its not activating its raise from the dead

even tho its in the first place ?

[sour oasis]

Be sure you dont have single target spells on any bars

Such as the mage laser beam attack

[lost tendon]

hm shi might be that

[grizzled elk]

optimal order is cranium cook, aura, raise dead, fart ghost I believe

only those attacks

[vale wadi]

cant wait to get a windwalker of mayheim fith class;)

or is it 4:P

[tacit tulip]

should be 4th but there's a lot of heated discussion about that

The remaining 6 classes were originally listed as alternates from the current 6

[vale wadi]

so maybe we get new chars for them

[lost tendon]

and chemical warfare?

[nimble palm]

11 dr does anything for cash multiplier? I don’t see a difference on afk screen

[fast grail]

Dr doesn’t show on afk screen, but yes it should make a difference in actuality

[signal osprey]

The afk shows how much you would get assuming each monster drops its money once. Dr breakpoints for money make them drop their money multiple times

[coarse otter]

anytips on getting vw's dmg up for nightmare kattlecruk. I got shit dmg on him

[fast grail]

When I doubt, quick slap

[old crane]

Chemical warfare provides the dmg but the fart ghost will place the poison so don't need chem warfare on bar

[fast grail]

Or have high name I guess

[signal osprey]

Name I guess

[lost tendon]

wait what? so you guys dont even have chem warfare on your bar?

isnt that the only way to poison mobs

[old crane]

Fart ghost

[signal osprey]

Ghost spawns poison

[lost tendon]

hmm but why not have both?

the warfare and ghost

[old crane]

can't be wasting time on another skill

[signal osprey]

You can only cast one spell at once. Every cast of warfare is a cast that could have been raise dead

[lost tendon]

ahh okay so for optimal play its needed

ah ye im not there yet, thanks tho

like i often need to wait on my raise dead

so i can fit in the chem warfare

[old crane]

You could maybe have the other 2 recommended skills for bubo bar for the nonflat maps instead of chem warfare
edit: ah chem warfare is one of them lol + sizzling skull

[nimble palm]

So I should get to 11x if I can’t get to 13x for max money multiplier?

[signal osprey]

Yeah if maximizing money is your goal then you aim for just enough dr to hit an odd number and then use money cards instead of more dr cards

[nimble palm]

Thx

[sinful bear]

I have tried looking, but has anything been said of when achievement unlocks are coming for w5?

[tacit tulip]

not as far as I'm aware

[placid timber]

This thing is such a troll getting 0 xp

[narrow torrent]

are you sure you didn't place 0 xp traps?

[placid timber]

Yep 6 days and it resets still same lvl

[paper sail]

Show your IE

[placid timber]

So around 12 days without any XP on my vman

Isn't IE banndable?

[jade fjord]

If I'm looking for ancient artifacts, is it better to have rare chest chance or artifact chance?

[placid timber]

Or they can check your irl info

[jade fjord]

Nvm, it looks like consensus might be that loot value and speed are too goated off some searching

[paper sail]

Arti chance is super tiny So is the gain from chest tiers unfortunately. The best result is just checking as many possible chests as you can.

[paper sail]

100% of people who have tried to say this have been wrong. I am certain you're wrong too, but in-game doesn't show the type of trap you placed.

[placid timber]

I placed those with high xp traps

[paper sail]

No way to prove it without IE or IT to show the trap type used

[placid timber]

Just a sec

[paper sail]

Or well, maybe. Go in game to where the traps are placed. You can at least visually see the type

If they're Wooden Traps, you messed up.

[placid timber]

Seems to have problems with IE might take a bit time

[fossil urchin]

you can go to the map where they're placed and it'll show what type of trap it is

[placid timber]

Green wood

So I can't use green wood traps?

[misty crown]

how do i get my w5 constellation to activate

achievement to activate

done em all

[paper sail]

I've been using 20hr Nature Traps since rift came out without any issues.

[vernal iris]

doot doot what did I miss in two months

[fossil urchin]

i mean, it's very possible you just don't get enough exp to level up if you're doing 6 day nature traps

really inefficient, especially if you have the rift collecting every day

[nimble palm]

13 dr without cash card set gives me the same money in 5 min as 11 dr with card set

[fossil urchin]

I'd reset to 20hr nature traps
just make sure to set up your nature/exp traps on your vman with all the skill exp abilities/cards/prayers to get the most bang for your buck

[placid timber]

Can I show you my ie on dm?

[fossil urchin]

maybe you set them via your bm and that lowered your exp or smt

i mean, sure? you can post it here though, it has it's own command and everything and i haven't ever heard of anyone's personal info being leaked from it at all

i wouldn't call myself an expert to be able to tell what's wrong, if anything is lol

[placid timber]

https://www.idleonefficiency.com/world-3/trapping

It's weird it shows the wrong trap

[old crane]

I think you need to post your public profile

[fossil urchin]

^

[placid timber]

It shows the yellow one

Not the green wood

[fossil urchin]

hmm, but it shows green in-game?

[placid timber]

Ye

When it's above 24 hours it works the rift thingy but below that then I have to claim it manually

[fossil urchin]

i mean, i've never heard of that bug before. if you provide screenshots you can bug report it, i'm sure

But an easy fix is just to redo your traps, and if you did 6 day traps you're going to want to do that anyway

[fossil urchin]

You technically don't have to unless you wanna be super efficient, they'll collect the next day

[placid timber]

Then I have to wait 6 days

[fossil urchin]

but most people do 20/40hr traps

[placid timber]

But not sure how I else should proof it

[royal warren]

with spears no longer giving aoe unless you are a warrior what is the recommendation for killing NM KK on Vman? I was thinking about using the spear to keep the adds under control until your AoE skill is off CD but that won't work now.

[grizzled elk]

normal vman weapon?

[potent gust]

Finally hit 5 DR without the chip \o/

[fossil urchin]

I'm not sure why you think you have to do 6 day traps.
If you do a 20hr trap it will collect the next day. Yes, there will be some time where it's sitting there ready to be collected, but upon daily reset it'll collect

[grizzled elk]

there really isn't any other option lol

[royal warren]

but how do you handle the spam of moles? Or do you 'just' need to do 1Q damage to the boss before the first mole gets to him?

[fossil urchin]

📌

[royal warren]

I completely missed that

[fossil urchin]

there's a nice video guide for it

[royal warren]

hurp derp

[grizzled elk]

manage adds until AOE attack is off cooldown, use that screen clear time to damage boss, rinse and repeat

[fossil urchin]

np, a lot of people do

[fossil urchin]

it's just like BB though, a lot of back and forth

[grizzled elk]

more base damage = less rinsing

[fossil urchin]

^

more damage the less time you'll back and forth

only solution

[royal warren]

yeah I can do it on BB but I realized that the AoE on the sword was quite impactful.

[placid timber]

I took a screenshot now then I'll wait 6 days from now on and screenshot it at that time too

[fossil urchin]

??

but why

[royal warren]

Thanks

[fossil urchin]

just reset your traps to 20hrs omg

[placid timber]

But isn't it better with 6 days?

[fossil urchin]

i'd trust IE over in-game visuals tbh

[placid timber]

Ok

[fossil urchin]

no

[fossil urchin]

3.75 vs 2.43 exp efficiency

20hrs just better

and it means you'll essentially level up everyday (until the higher levels)

[placid timber]

Oh

[fossil urchin]

'cus it'll collect everyday if you have rift

[placid timber]

I'll do that then thanks

[fossil urchin]

just make sure to do it on your vman

he has all the skill exp skills and then add the prayers and cards

get the most out of it

[toxic bone]

i put all my Units, except main DK, on divinity...this link will be good, since i get Lab Bonus aswell, right?

[paper sail]

What discrepancy are you seeing? I've never had an issue lol

[fossil urchin]

oh, i guess it's normal, i failed ot remember the drop down

it just doesn't show up nature via the trap png, but if you hover over it says nature

[paper sail]

The column after your name shows the trap you're wearing on your character. Has nothing to do with the individual placed trap.

[royal warren]

Here is a hopefully less silly question - is there a point where Magma/stat armor overtakes the % skill efficiency boots/pants? The X guide bot commands don't look like they have been updated in a while so I'm unsure if the stat stuff being missing is an oversight or if it is actually just sub par.

[proud zodiac]

I wasn't expecting to reach w5 and just afk all the characters for divinity. Have so much stuff to do and i'm just waiting.

[fossil urchin]

yeah, it's a bit unintiuitive though. people forget hover text all the time, if i just see 20hr blobs then it doesn't neccessarily mean i put nature traps

[paper sail]

For mining and chopping, all but the boots will be replaced by Magma eventually. The other skills will remain in their skill-specific gear.

[royal warren]

Thanks!

[loud cedar]

[bright current]

[spring raptor]

I did not even realize you could get eggs like that

[wanton gazelle]

God damn how long since you hatched an egg my guy!

[paper sail]

Barely worth it, but yep. Dreadlo eggs have a 4x higher minimum pet value, but only a 2x higher maximum value

but take like.. a very long time lol

At some point you have no choice though

[wanton gazelle]

True, my hatches are auto trash at this point

I've been focusing alot of my idleon time into this lately 🙄

[paper sail]

It's a huge trade down in breeding exp and DNA for a chance at higher pet values

[wanton gazelle]

I'm almost to 70 breeding so I can't be wasting that exp lol

[dreamy rapids]

Breeding is so annoying to level up man...

[wanton gazelle]

I make sure to only hatch eggs on my voidwalker for that reason lol

[paper sail]

😂

If only you checked and saw that Vman has no bonus to breeding exp

[wanton gazelle]

Any one know for sure if the crystal skill for maestro affects breeding?

Oh shit really?

I figured the base exp gain would of affected it! >.<

Well thanks for pointing that out lol, will save me time teleporting around I guessm

[gray pagoda]

Can someone help me out? Ever since I got the rift bonus, I haven't been getting critters.

[dreamy rapids]

There is no way to improve breeding XP gains beside the passive card and that one dead gene upgrade

[dreamy rapids]

The rift bonus only works every daily reset if your traps are finished

[gray pagoda]

I haven't gotten critters in over a week. I'm only using the 40 hour traps.

Actually I think it's been about a month now

[old crane]

Maybe 20 hour traps?

So they will be finished every reset

[lavish cloak]

salts never give you more than a million at a time, but it does seem to be going a lot faster now

[dreamy rapids]

I wish the rift bonus would auto collect even if you are not active

[wanton gazelle]

Heyyy another T6 just a day or two after the last one.

Just one more T6 to go

[dreamy rapids]

Do you use Omni?

How much?

[lavish cloak]

once a day on all characters. i'm a dirty dooter, so it just happens

[gray pagoda]

... the trap bonus?

[dreamy rapids]

That would be the one

Would actually make me use the 20M trap

[gray pagoda]

Do you just have to log in or do you need to be on during reset?

[dreamy rapids]

FML

I have no toilet paper

[sick sentinel]

The trap rift thing collects when you login if you arent playing active

[gray pagoda]

Ok. Idk why it's not working then.

I log in daily, but haven't gotten traps in a long time. Figured it was salts since I'm getting scropies, but it's been off for a while now and I still don't have more.

[sick sentinel]

Were your traps rdy when u logged in?

Mmm how long are your traps

[gray pagoda]

I'm only using the 40 hours for shinies. Don't have a very high shiny chance rn.

[sick sentinel]

They arent going straight to your bank?

It doesnt deposit on your char if thats what you are wondering about

[gray pagoda]

Yeah, I have 1 scropie, I'm positive lol

[icy jewel]

geez on gaming how rare is it to get the further evolved forms

[sick sentinel]

What traps are you using

[icy jewel]

dont have past like lvl 4 on them

[sick sentinel]

Takes a long time and increases per plant tier

Theres a gaming calc in #1084911530417606656

[gray pagoda]

The silky traps, since it increases shiny chance

[icy jewel]

oh shit ill find it

figured wait it out for log book bonuses i guess

[sick sentinel]

Helps if you have bog log and chems to do higher tiers

[icy jewel]

im so unlucky -- been stuck on voracai for like 3 months +

[sick sentinel]

And you have 1 shiny or 1 regular

[autumn wasp]

do you have shiny snitch on

[gray pagoda]

Don't have snitch

[gray pagoda]

1 regular, 2 shiny

[sick sentinel]

Odd

Do you close oyur game or leave it on the player menu screen

[paper sail]

Not running snitch is like leaving your foot in a bear trap

[gray pagoda]

Player menu. Does that cause it to not do the daily reset with traps? I figured it would be fine, since it still does nblb and everything else.

[gray pagoda]

Can't run what I don't have, I'm afraid

[sick sentinel]

yep thats where its messing you up

the timer stops if you leave it on player menu

for traps and maybe salts too

[gray pagoda]

Bro -_-

Why tf should that even matter T.T

[autumn wasp]

how do people even discover this

[icy jewel]

@circ omg those spreadsheets

[sick sentinel]

so if you dont play active always cloudsave and close game entirely

[icy jewel]

i dont think its even worth it to wait with those odds holy crap

[sick sentinel]

probably common when trapping first came out i assume

i learned from others

[sick sentinel]

ye its tough, imo wait for higher tiers when you get log and chem plant for time skips

for now spam your plants as soon as you can to have more rolls at the next plant evo

[old crane]

chem waiting room

[autumn wasp]

i had chem for a month and still no T6

long grind ahead boys

[gray pagoda]

Wow... I'm more messed up then I thought. I have one vial that's maxed, oak logs. Copper ore, spore caps, thread, and POTTY ROLLS are pretty close (cause I don't like farming spores for some reason, and when I do I leave spore caps in the drop filter). Meanwhile, my MAPLE LOG vial is at LEVEL 9.

[dreamy rapids]

It easy to max vial the one that require skilling items

And for monster drops I just use Vman

[gray pagoda]

Isn't ES best for farming mats?

[sick sentinel]

actively ye, but printing from speedruns is nutts

[dreamy rapids]

Vman is better at printing

[gray pagoda]

Oh! I didn't even think about that!

[dreamy rapids]

I don't really like to active farm for vials

Because it's a lot of annoying back and forth

[gray pagoda]

Yeah, makes sense. You could use the talent.

For some reason it doesn't work for me, but idk

[sick sentinel]

what doesnt, the sampling during speedruns?

[gray pagoda]

No, the talent that puts stuff in your chest

[sick sentinel]

ah gotcha

[strong acorn]

While doing this quest, should i be farming more power statues for my other characters or should i move on to w2 to farm for other statue types and get more onyx statues?

[gray pagoda]

It'd be just my luck that the one time it works is when I just manage to get a Lucky Lad to drop

[elder pagoda]

I saw a tip about closing the map for sailing to get all of the chests from a longer sailing afk. Did that get patched?

[sick sentinel]

long time ago yes

[pearl cedar]

Like a month into w5 lol

Everyone bitched fun times

[elder pagoda]

Thanks. I only started 6 weeks ago or so, so when I google for answers it's hard to know if a post from a year ago is still valid. I don't know all of the latest and greatest compared to those posts

[sick sentinel]

all good friend, this is a good place to ask these questions

[elder pagoda]

🙂 appreciate the kindness.

[pearl cedar]

Discord is only place for semi accurate answers, and thats only if you avoid gen chat and endgame channel so you're in the right place

[runic token]

1/25 is max crystal spawn chance?

[gray thicket]

So, it's been almost two years since I started the "7 Figure Followers" quest and I only have this many

[sharp igloo]

Not sure but that sounds about right. Mine is 1/30 rn, and the only way I could think to raise it is just more crystallin stamp levels

[sharp igloo]

Active DK on beans overnight and youll get a bunch

[fossil urchin]

it's the best anyone has gotten so far, afaik, since we have to rely on shrine for a lot of the chance

[regal kindle]

guys where can I find the complete list of possible bonus stats on obols so I know what to reroll for. Its not on the wiki or any guide I found on youtube

[zealous niche]

Rats get you the instablabs

[gray thicket]

Do I have to have the quest active?

[gray thicket]

Makes sense why I haven't had any progress at all

[zealous niche]

Get every char to the quest where the cloud ones drop and then don’t turn them in

[fast grail]

the chart is on the wiki, it will only increase misc if that obol has a misc

[zealous niche]

Turn in one for the stamp and Greenstack all three

[gray thicket]

[pearl cedar]

Not sure if anyone has hit 1 in 25 yet

Would require a large shrine

[fossil urchin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1141032802939306014/1151360579374686308/image.png?ex=65159d59&is=65144bd9&hm=99cd56e637e73aa7b6754ccf9214564ca36888aa7975e38ea5826a7b8ccd209c&

[regal kindle]

ye I thought so but rerolling a bronze pop i got an extra 1% drop rate AND +1 agi which confused me

[pearl cedar]

Like I said large shrine

22 ?

[zealous niche]

Try 1 in 10 on my vman

[untold lintel]

not counting vman

[zealous niche]

That was not specified

[past grove]

@gray thicket get the quest on all characters and wait with turning them in

[untold lintel]

it shouldve been assumed

votes are in, i won

[zinc belfry]

What class is best for farming cards?

[zealous niche]

Love the spirit of humble teaching there

Was going to ask how but it seems you’re out to be superior instead of answer questions

[manic moat]

Any advice on how I can improve? my players on the left ar my squires. Just keep increasing exp cogs?

[untold lintel]

just joshing, who shit in your fruity pebbles?

[zealous niche]

Yeah, exp cogs are the way, especially directional exp on the squires

[pearl cedar]

I mean kind of obvious we're not talking about vman

[zealous niche]

The directional cogs are multiplicative with the rest of the exp bonuses

[manic moat]

probably ES

[untold lintel]

^

[pearl cedar]

That is rounded though, yes not actually 4% according to IT?

[zealous niche]

You can always level the bubble for build rate per construction level @manic moat

[manic moat]

yeah, haven't seen a lot of exp directional yet, just build speed

[zealous niche]

It really wasn’t. Just asking if you can get lower than 1 in 25

How am I meant to see the assumed statement except the class that’s good for that

[pearl cedar]

It is recommended to only have 2 DKs on board, the rest should be exp and exp directionals pointing at the DKs

Probably because nobody cares about vman crystal chance anymore since maining vman isn't the meta anymore

[runic token]

You’re right I didn’t specify, but it was definitely implied, my bad

[zealous niche]

Another assumption there that we’re all meant to magically know?

[untold lintel]

no, that ones just common sense

[deft grail]

Never change, gamers

[zealous niche]

Again, question was specifically about getting crystal chance lower than 1 in 25, nothing about farming or on a specific class

[pearl cedar]

I would assume the rule not the exception, personally. If the rule is that the lowest crystal chance is 1 in 25, I'm not going to assume they're talking about the exception vman who gets below 1 in 10

[sick sentinel]

[zealous niche]

The problem isn’t the fact vman didn’t answer the question, it’s the jumping out with assumptions

[untold lintel]

bro u tried to flex ur 10% on vman

[pearl cedar]

I mean you jumped out with the assumption that they were talking about vman

[zealous niche]

I just showed it’s possible to get under 25

[untold lintel]

"try my 1 in 10 on vman" 🤓

obviously it is, on vman

youre a smooth brain fella arent u

[zealous niche]

More assumptions

[untold lintel]

assume some brain cells

[pearl cedar]

Oh well who cares. So yes the answer is you can get below 1 in 25 only on vman, but for the normal everyday class it is 1 in 25 lol

[sick sentinel]

Why is this an argument tho... literally pointless

[untold lintel]

egochecked him

[manic moat]

what is one achievement you will probably never complete? mine is this:

what about when they unlock the new players?

even basic you will still be too fast?

[bold lintel]

Apparently that works if you swap characters one in town one at efaunt

[zealous niche]

You still need the speed to be under

[manic moat]

a level 1?

[sick sentinel]

Yeah sadly its a missed chance if you didnt do it early

[zinc torrent]

Hi guys, how can i min max my sailing a bit? https://instinctx.idleonefficiency.com/

[manic moat]

dang

well my high score is only 6700...I suck a pong

[zealous niche]

Isn’t the basic move speed 100%? So +33 from statue ruins it

[manic moat]

oh that is a good one too

I'm only at 87k on that one

[zealous niche]

Any of the minigame “beat lava’s score” is out for me

[unkempt quest]

anyone have this weeks optimal boss rotation

[bold lintel]

They can be done with practice by anyone I'd say. I'm fairly trash at them too but I've managed a few

[manic moat]

I wish you could control the pong paddle with the mouse

[tacit tulip]

technically you can just not in a useful way 😛

[manic moat]

yeah, I thought pong would be easy on mobile but the controls are like the mouse on PC...terrible

[manic moat]

would this one go faster if you put all the same heart in the fence at once?

[tacit tulip]

yes but it's still insanely hard to do

as in, probably not gfonna happen ever

[muted slate]

yeah itd go to just 3 lifetimes or something

[manic moat]

lol yeah, I guess I've never even seen a tier 4 on any of mine

[sacred verge]

also there is this

[manic moat]

what's wrong with that one?

are you too "above" using gold equipment anymore?

[sacred verge]

actually i prefer copper gear

[frail schooner]

naked is the way to go

[manic moat]

gold can be quite expensive

I hate looking for teams, this one might never get done too

[zealous niche]

Haven’t tried the party finder channel?

Or just no luck there

[frail schooner]

you can solo that one with a bit of luck

[tacit tulip]

it's very easy to lock yourself out of these since onyx statues were added

[manic moat]

I mean, I do HH but meh on other dungeons lol

I've tried to solo but I can't get enough damage.

I should keep trying though, I could use 5% more dmg

[frail schooner]

you need the legendary crit item, which you can often get with the purple coin that lets you choose btween grey or legendary items

[bright pecan]

Yea I got myself locked out of that one its quite unfortunate

[manic moat]

I tend to use ES so I like the never ending mana

[frail schooner]

yeah but the crit item just makes any run broken with a bit of luck to get crit-chance iems

even without cirt chance it boost damage immensly

[manic moat]

but how can you start when non crits give no dmg

[frail schooner]

you usually have enough crit chance such that one hit makes up for all misses

[tacit tulip]

I usually roll for crit chance on my weapon too

[manic moat]

which character is your main dungeon?

[tacit tulip]

DK is easiest

[frail schooner]

dk is really good

[tacit tulip]

statue+shockwave+boomerang clears maps fast

[manic moat]

I'll go give it a shot

[tacit tulip]

and isn't mp heavy

[nimble palm]

For w2 and w3 dungeons too?

[frail schooner]

yeah, the crit legendary is just bonkers

[nimble palm]

I’ll try to do those achievements today hopefully

Easy dmg %

[raw tundra]

it is a great suprisse to learn in world 5 that some power ups in dungeon makes you weaker

gotta read carefully or something

[manic moat]

1st try not a single crit chance anything

[frail schooner]

the only one i can think of is the legendary item that just makes your attack speed useless

[clear quartz]

oh nifty, i just need a few of the w3 dung ones and ill have finished that whole world of chieves

[raw tundra]

sugar something made me weaker i tihnk

[clear quartz]

w1 and w2 ive decided ill likely never finish but yeah

[frail schooner]

yeah sometimes you are unlucky, but as I said even without crit chance tou should stand a good chance

you can also wait with picking up the legendary until you found enough crit chance

[manic moat]

THis what where I ended

its crazy trying to juggle all the drops and trying to get all the tasks done

[raw tundra]

so i just got shovel does it keep going forver

[sharp igloo]

Is 220 multitool stamp possible?

[frail schooner]

what I've done is to run around and kill as many different mobs as possible. The kills count for future tasks. When a skilling task arrives I focus on buying items etc, or doing more kills

[tall horizon]

No, 210 current cap.

[toxic bone]

i only take plants when they are full grown, right?

[fading cape]

how often you collect is going to depend on the likelihood of them evolving

For instance, I can go up to Tier 6. But that's very unlikely. The most common I product is a tier 4. So I collect when they hit tier 4

[lusty wedge]

Depends on where you are in gaming. But early on, which it seems you are. Just grab whenever as waiting for them to evolve at the beginning isnt really worth it

[fading cape]

Early on, just getting bits is profitable at all. So probably try to collect every couple hours will end in more bits than waiting

[toxic bone]

allright

ty

[zealous niche]

Pretty much; the minimum is whatever is shown on the upgrade in imports. It’s not %, just a straight that’s your minimum. The maximum is like 1,600ish times larger, but the odds are heavily weighted to the minimum

[gray thicket]

I will

Ty

[strong acorn]

i feel like ive been trying to unlock the evergreen since the day world 5 was added.. can anyone give any useful advice?

[old crane]

The only trick kinda thing I've heard to try is quickly spam the button after hitting harvest all

[vagrant mountain]

quantity > quality

[strong acorn]

ive been rolling every time it hits 2%, should i be going between every single sprout instead?

[vestal delta]

has anyone super chowed the doot spores? if so what was your approx. damage when you did it

I think that's the last one on the list for me 💀

[opaque sun]

Although damage plays a part in it, its not like the highest priority in determining kills

Like you can check w1 gmush to get a rough idea of the damage tiers you are getting

[vestal delta]

my gmush is 16~M on BB, but the doot spores all have to be active, I think...which is an atrocity

[opaque sun]

you can class swap to DK, do the kills, then class swap back for a shorter task

[vestal delta]

oh my god that's genius

[pearl cedar]

Like 3 of us have

80tish damage, got about 500k/hr

[vestal delta]

did you do the DK gimmick?

wait a minute, is this just pure cheese? stacking DK in doot for extra loot?

[pearl cedar]

Should speed it up a good amount though, not sure how fast dk respawn is exactly, but bb respawn was between 9 and 10 seconds

[vagrant mountain]

you'd have to stack it for each kill and you probably won't even get 50 orb

[pearl cedar]

Nah Vman would out perform

[vestal delta]

testing on DK now, respawn is 1-2 seconds on the spores

[vagrant mountain]

but theres only 1

[vestal delta]

yup, maxed on 60 orb

[pearl cedar]

Yeah should be able to finish in a couple days like that

[vagrant mountain]

60% chance for 2x drop lol

[vestal delta]

anyway for BB it sounds like it'll be 20x faster

[twin token]

60% for a chance at 2x lol

[pearl cedar]

About 5x

[vestal delta]

5x is good enough for me 😂

[pearl cedar]

Will be a good test because I don't think anyone has actually tried

But theoretically should work

[vestal delta]

my damage is absolute dog compared to the 80T you did it with though...only 1T on BB

[vagrant mountain]

cooking will just be bricked until you finish

[vestal delta]

so it probably will just break even with the faster DK respawn

[pearl cedar]

Yeah but that's only like 6 mk tiers which isnt crazy

U using w2 rings?

[vestal delta]

no but I will now 😂

[pearl cedar]

Yeah you can do stuff a bit different. On BB have to hyper max out respawn

[autumn wasp]

is w2 rings better than afk gain rings?

[vestal delta]

can't afk these spores

[pearl cedar]

When you have to active kill the doot shroom yes

[autumn wasp]

oh i thought yall was talkin bout chowing it

[pearl cedar]

We are

[vestal delta]

we are, but you can't afk them

[pearl cedar]

But you can't afk at doot

[autumn wasp]

ah

[violet iris]

THey are endgamers. THey don't do rational things

[autumn wasp]

honestly when i run outta shit to do in this game I can see myself doing that

[vestal delta]

only issue now is that I don't have a good gauge for how long I have to be swapped to DK for...cause I can't check without swapping back 😓

[hoary light]

hey man I don't even think I'm endgame and I've spent like 2 weeks active grinding onyx statues pretty much 24/7 it is no longer an idle game at this point lmao

[pearl cedar]

10% gains is rational

[sick sentinel]

Never has been an idle game lol

[vagrant mountain]

check IT

[sick sentinel]

Just in name only

[pearl cedar]

He is on dk

[vagrant mountain]

oh right

guess you really cant check

[pearl cedar]

You can find it in raw jason from ie

[vagrant mountain]

kek

[pearl cedar]

Lol jason

[vestal delta]

any idea what to ctrl + f to check that?