lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[prisma drift]

I got a kattle cape

It felt bad

[twin token]

Does it count for the quest?

[zinc torrent]

Hi guys, best place to farm W2 crystals with DK?

[foggy briar]

What am I missing for DR?

[twin token]

Sandy pots

[twin token]

There's a Dr calculator that shows every source of dr

[pearl cedar]

A lot

[mystic stump]

me also

[pure meadow]

those last few eldritch artifacts are taking sooo long

[old portal]

how many is it again for the average recipe?

[tacit tulip]

1k

As it's 1k more likely to drop

[pearl cedar]

Does IT not calculate the 20% more drop rate bundle?

[prisma drift]

I got like 4k to drop

[old portal]

also other than the prayer and obols what else is big for DR?

[zinc torrent]

Thanks bro, what about W3 W4 and W5?

[pearl cedar]

This is 20.82

[twin token]

Well dk doesn't farm w3 crystals bc they don't drop anything good

[prisma drift]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1141880730411094106

[twin token]

But w4 and w5 are clammies and citringes/tremor worms

[pearl cedar]

Equipment is big boost

[old portal]

players having liek double my DR and idk how lol my best is 12DR on DK

[prisma drift]

Im at 19.53 with crystal cards

Trying to break 20x with crystal cards

[old portal]

i couldnt find the biggest source iam missing rn

[prisma drift]

Divine trophy and trophy doubler chip

[old portal]

how big is it

[prisma drift]

1X basically

[old portal]

aight still far then

[pearl cedar]

Whenever I unlock dr stamp i should hit 21.1ish with crystal setup

[prisma drift]

You have the 20% gem shop multi?

[old portal]

whats that

[prisma drift]

Also you have the plunder talent leveled on SB?

The new islands exploration pack came with 20% drop rate multi

So 10X becomes 12X

[old portal]

aight thats too p2w so nope

[prisma drift]

Your max f2p is gonna be a lot lower unless you get lucky and pull a lava cape

[old coyote]

does ES portal count towards deathnote?

[old portal]

3k plunder kills aswell

[prisma drift]

Make sure you have the SB talent leveled that boosts DR

Booked as well

[spice widget]

does the cattlekruck trophy quest consume the cape

[prisma drift]

But you can’t re use it

[spice widget]

oh interesting

[prisma drift]

The quest wants you to get the cape DROP not the cape itself

[sacred verge]

you need to have the quest when you drop the cape for it to count

[spice widget]

gotcha

[sacred verge]

dropped my first cape without the quest, heh

[prisma drift]

My vman almost strong enough to auto kruk

[sacred verge]

dmg?

[prisma drift]

Then I’ll get him a trophy

Like 100B

[sacred verge]

that enough for auto?

[prisma drift]

Not complete full auto but not crazy running back and forth

[sacred verge]

yeah

[prisma drift]

I have max booked and slug for fist skills

[sacred verge]

i did it with like 60b vman and i felt it was crazy enough lol

[sick sentinel]

mine at like 300B still needed to clear a wave

[prisma drift]

I heard 200B was enough to full auto

Wonder what it actually is

[sick sentinel]

i can try real quick

[prisma drift]

Have you tried with the new crit dmg?

[sick sentinel]

good question

i dont remmeber if it was b4 or after

[prisma drift]

I haven’t tried yet

I tried pre adding crit dmg statues but I still need to finish the quest on a few char

So I don’t have a good crit statue

[sick sentinel]

i'll try in my drop rate setup with 240B, guess i've goten a bit more dmg since the last time

[prisma drift]

Sheesh 240B drop rate

[sick sentinel]

yeah not there yet

now with 550

looks like thats where it is for me

boss ate 1 mole

tho i guess i dont have my fist multihits maxed

[formal minnow]

Well, that conversation just told me everything I needed to know about when I should really start trying for all 10 on nightmare

The answer is not within the next year😅

[sick sentinel]

thats for just vman on auto

u can easily do it with 25B and up, its just faster with more dmg

hell some ppl did it with 10B, tho i think it took them over and hour

[pearl cedar]

Obligatory just get more damage video.

[sick sentinel]

how many T is that lol

[signal osprey]

Not enough

[formal minnow]

This is why I'm saying I will not be accomplishing thay for a while...

[sick sentinel]

you'll get there

more artifacts/alchemy/eclipse skulls and you'll be swimming in dmg

[pearl cedar]

That was at like 11t

[signal osprey]

11Q vman

[sick sentinel]

with looty specced?

[formal minnow]

I'm getting 5mil on dn right now, not sure when to make the push for eclipse skulls. But alchemy has been the shift of focus for the past week, getting a lot of materials for useful bubbles printed rather than printing things for refinery, and getting main stat bubbles to atomable levels

[sick sentinel]

usually when you have like 3-5 mil/hr on w1 mobs is a good idea to start eclipsing, def get your purple and red skulls on all the world mobs tho

[pearl cedar]

Maybe when I get my quickslap 20k

[heavy moth]

how much you got atm

[signal osprey]

Thoughts and prayers for your bob

[pearl cedar]

Not anywhere close

Like 4k

[heavy moth]

damn i need to work on other dmg source, im at 3.95 on qs and no where near 11T

[pearl cedar]

Yeah quickslap is an endgame meme bubble. It is not worth pushing without other damage sources

And even then not really worth pushing over Bob

[sharp igloo]

Is bob just good because its linear and helps you build towers and stuff faster?

[pearl cedar]

Basically

[heavy moth]

i wonder what other source i could upgrade

https://pazuzeus.idleonefficiency.com/

[pine jasper]

for grinding out divinity to goharut should i just put every1 on focus (4pts1xp/hr) or keep them grinding xp on chakra(2pts2xp/hr)?

[sharp igloo]

Damn you really went hard on orange bubble 3 lol

[heavy moth]

XD hourly click

[sharp igloo]

Oh yeah haha. I just started doing that

[heavy moth]

its a drug XD and i dont know when to stop

that was my alchemy in may

[sharp igloo]

Do you actually do it every hour?

[paper sail]

letting Anvilnomics get hit by NBLB, shame

[pine jasper]

any advice?

[heavy moth]

nah too lazy i do when i think of it

[sharp igloo]

Id probably just do focus until you get goharut/tranqui, then switch everyone to tranqui and get everyone off the alter

[heavy moth]

trueee ill fix ythT

[teal lynx]

If going for Goat u should stay on focus. Pins have a good divinity guide :)

[pine jasper]

god i always forget to check pins, mb lol. ty both

[teal lynx]

All good, we are here to help

[sharp igloo]

Do you print alien logs for hourly wis money bubble?

I was thinking about doing that, but not sure if its worth giving up an oak log slot since I cant print 1bil alien logs an hour with 1 slot

[paper sail]

I do sometimes. I don't always get to click hourly anyway, sometimes only every 2-3 hours, so I like to include materials i can print 334m or more of

[sharp igloo]

I think I'm closeish to that, and I don't check every hour either, so Ill give it a try and see if I end up being able to click it when I do check. I just feel like I'd be giving up a lot of atoms by switching from oak.

[paper sail]

You will 🤷

Any non-oak is a trade off lol

[sharp igloo]

Yeah its a tough decision lol. I do really want to raise that bubble, but I also want atoms

[paper sail]

Depends what you're spending particles on really

Like if you're trying to +50 Bob every day, that's less than 100k

[steep zealot]

Rip. Apparently I got rid of my tokens on my BB forever ago for the Tundra trophy. .-.

[sacred verge]

you will get to a point where you can get a fair amount of atoms and still do hourly clicks

[heavy moth]

yes i do but not sample high enough for hourly click

[sharp igloo]

Im mostly just spending them on my 50 dailies, but I usually have leftover which Ill spend on whatever I can afford in the atom collider, most of which is either not that important, or way too expensive to reasonably save for at the moment, so I guess I could probably give up 1 oak slot

[steady beacon]

My ES is lagging in terms of divinity. I just tried setting it to Arctis (active in lab, but no exp) and Goharut (if active in lab, gain divinity exp/points too), but I don't seem to be getting any divinity exp. By my interpretation though, it should work. Does the fact that Arctis gives 0 lab exp mean that the divinity exp is also set to 0?

[heavy moth]

what atom bonus to focus on , got 5 mil spare atom i got no idea where to put them

[paper sail]

Goat only gives Divinity Points/EXP when you claim Lab AFK gains.

[steady beacon]

So there's literally no way of getting divinity exp outside of lab? (at least not until TranQi at 40)?

[lavish cloak]

how much am i really losing by letting my voidwalker fall behind in worship?

[paper sail]

Some other character can use Mantra stance to give some exp to everyone. Otherwise, no.

[steady beacon]

ugh, that's lame. There goes my plan to continue farming on the ES while still getting exp. Thanks though!

[clear quartz]

finding the perfect balance for bubo is tricky, ive swapped to an aura build and am a melee weap enjoyer now, but still run into dead spots every now and then, i think due to moveset priorities and/or unlucky tenteyecle procs hitting raise dead endlessly even while constantly respawning and perhaps a respawn getting "wasted" while enemies are still sstuck in their respawn/dying animation cycle? unsure if that makes sense

[sharp igloo]

Whats your attack bar look like?

[paper sail]

Don't overthink. Set it and forget it.

[clear quartz]

should i swap the middle two then?

oh aura not at the front

[sharp igloo]

I do it the way you do, but not 100% if they should be switched or not

[paper sail]

It should be switched.

[steep zealot]

It's like Lightning Barrage on ES. Locks up the casting a bit

[clear quartz]

oh yeah, swapping it around seems like its smoother so far

[paper sail]

Bubo intentionally doesn't include on-next-attack skills to avoid that.

[steep zealot]

Ye

[sharp igloo]

Im not sure, but he's only 1 level behind, so may as well let him get ahead. My vman is like 30 levels behind, and Ive pretty much given up on him ever catching up lol

[paper sail]

Basically nothing from Right Hand. The worship efficiency given that way is less than a 1% increase. However, Species Epoch exists and gives a shit load of bonus souls and critters. Still spend all of Vman's charge on your highest EXP/charge totem.

[lavish cloak]

forgot about epoch, yes, most important source of bonus souls.

and critters per trap

[paper sail]

Worship almost comes too fast these days

Not quite a resample level of effort but I still don't want to do it every 4 days

[amber dragon]

skill efficiency does not effect w4, 5 skills right

[steady beacon]

setting up my bubo as well - is there any harm in adding the poison canisters skill?

[steep zealot]

What do you mean?

[amber dragon]

like this one,

[paper sail]

Simply: Yes. Having canisters on your bar reduces how often you can cast more important skills, like Raise Dead. SOME large maps may require it still, if your Ghosts don't cast often enough / last long enough.

[steady beacon]

ok, thanks!

[lapis mesa]

this is getting fun

[amber dragon]

has no effects to breeding, sailing and divinity?

[paper sail]

Wait lol

Calm

Generalizing too hard

Sailing flat out has no efficiency

So of course efficiency doesn't benefit the skill

Cooking and Lab in w4 both have efficiency

Breeding, Sailing, Divinity, Gaming do not

[amber dragon]

oohhh

right

[amber dragon]

always forget about this tab

[clear quartz]

the real tragedy is fishing doesnt have e-fish-ency

[paper sail]

Honestly surprised Lava didn't go for that joke

[pure meadow]

are there any soft/hardcaps in terms of bubbles one should be aware of?

[paper sail]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1087501872002256966

[pure meadow]

oh awesome, thank you

[fast grail]

level 15 snail does not exist, i have now reset down to 10 doing the upgrade from 13->14 six times now. I despise gaming

[lavish cloak]

i harvest all'd my 15 chemical plants. now gaming every time i can come back to hourly click is fun again

[paper sail]

My snail reset so gaming is not fun.

[signal osprey]

My snail actually just level up and gaming still isnt fun

[paper sail]

Equation solved

If gaming is a component, the end result fun is 0

[signal osprey]

I also just got another T6 for the T7 grind

[dreamy rapids]

How much KR tooth you get from a single Nightmare run

[paper sail]

Can anyone confirm btw how the sailing afk claims works with the bubble and golden hampters? Just additive or some other goofy system? i.e. if my bubble is 11.5% chance, will golden hampters of 88.5% guarantee the proc and I'm done?

[heavy moth]

having those since like 1 month and those T7 are no where to be seen

[signal osprey]

What speed and mutation level?

[signal osprey]

Oh yeah those are like the minimum to even make farming T6 worth your time

T7 has to take forever at those numbers

[heavy moth]

need more snail for more upgrade sadly

[signal osprey]

I've got my current speed to 1.8 minutes and level 341 mutation

[heavy moth]

wwow nice

[signal osprey]

Gotten 5 T6's over 3 days so far so hopefully that means I'm able to get a T7 at some point

[paper sail]

I am down to just 1 corner cog not giving player construct xp

[dreamy rapids]

Tier 7 is a myth

[merry pulsar]

anybody still need the last snake boss achievement in w2 dungeon? I'm trying to accomplish it

[heavy moth]

indeeed

[signal osprey]

T7 has already happened so no not really a myth

Just gotta keep pushing gaming and wait awhile lol

[dreamy rapids]

To kill it?

[merry pulsar]

yeqa

[dreamy rapids]

What is the difference between each tier is anyway?

[merry pulsar]

double damage/hp

[heavy moth]

oh really nicee

[signal osprey]

You get a bit multi increase for every plant tier you discover

Its actually a fairly decent bonus too

[steep zealot]

I haven't done it yet so I'll help if ya need

[coral pecan]

im getting like 8k kills an hour how am I supposed to open the 10 million portal

anyone know how to really get that up

[steep zealot]

Very slowly 🙂

[coral pecan]

I have the mutikill divinity already

[paper sail]

Stop, go back to old content you skipped, and catch up.

[coral pecan]

so I just wait

[sharp igloo]

Why do I sometimes see people looking for parties at random events? What is the benefit to doing those in a party?

[tacit tulip]

you need multikill to do w5 portals in a reasonable time

[merry pulsar]

meet dice world 19 at the dungeon

[paper sail]

The player can team up with others before starting the event (for fight events then the first attack counts as starting it), which will increase the difficulty to complete as well as apply a drop chance multiplier based on how many members are in the team. Random Events can be completed Solo as well.
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Random_Events

[sharp igloo]

Oh okay thanks

[steep zealot]

You want a specific class?

[tacit tulip]

basically you need to be doing enough damage where multikill activates. For the 10m map, this is 2.4b damage on the upper end of your damage range

[dreamy rapids]

But is it wait for literally months decent bonus?

[lost depot]

Also check you have 100% survivability, check you have all your attacks on your hotbar and that they are levelled up enough

[merry pulsar]

no just be good at dungeon lol

[signal osprey]

If youre waiting for months to get a new tier then you arent ready yet

It shouldnt take months

[sharp igloo]

I dont think I could multikill anything in w5 when it first came out. Definitely took a while lol.

[dreamy rapids]

I never did W2 dungeon with more people

[tacit tulip]

Same, still waited to push later maps until I had MK 😄

[coral pecan]

I have all damage talents up to 150

and I have pretty good food

[merry pulsar]

dice w19

[coral pecan]

with that auot food thingy

[tacit tulip]

still gonna need multikill

[coral pecan]

ok

whats the best way to scale damage hard then

[dreamy rapids]

Fine I don't need anything but I will come anway

[tacit tulip]

Alchemy

[sharp igloo]

Lol I went to tremor wurms with no MK

[lost depot]

You don't need to max your attack talents for AFK farming

[lost depot]

Alchemy and cooking

[merry pulsar]

why not right best case we kill the third boss and get 5% extra damage worst case we dont and only kill the second one

[coral pecan]

ok

[tacit tulip]

at 8k kills an hour wurms portal wil ltake 52 days to unlock, jesus

[dreamy rapids]

I already killed the boss

[coral pecan]

just like all the talents that give any sort of damage

[static acorn]

W3 dungeon run I assume? I can come help if needed

[sharp igloo]

I was getting like 30k an hour by the time I got to them

[old portal]

yeah did the same on w5 release its worth tho

[tacit tulip]

then you were probably multikilling 😛

[coral pecan]

bruh thats wild

which bubbles do I need to work on

[lost depot]

Damage talents help you get to the next multikill tier, so you should generally max them for AFK

[tacit tulip]

The easiest way to level alchemy is to look at your bubbles that are very easy to level up. This is typically: Logs, ore, bugs, fish, and sometimes mob mats.

Start taking printing samples (use royal sampler) for the skilling stuff. Use ES to farm mob mats if needed

your goal here is to level up these easy bubbles so that the lab bonus, "no bubble left behind" levels the HARD bubbles for you, without spending your resources: Salt, worship souls, trapping critters, cooking spices, and anvil.

As you progress, your account will get stronger in all areas. This will make your samples bigger, which lets you level the bubbles further, and it's an almost endless cycle towards greatness.

As you get stronger it'll be easier to level other things: Stamps, craft better gear, and generally do anything you need.

tl;dr: all

[sharp igloo]

Nah, I just had kill per kill talent leveled and was using nobisect with the kill per kill green bubble active

[paper sail]

Same. I reached the final map on my BB with 40m max damage, roughly 50k kills per hour. It was a bad idea that wasted a month of my time

[old portal]

that was well worth considering farming on worms tho right

[paper sail]

Farming on wurms with 40m damage gives you nothing lol

[signal osprey]

With a full afk respawn setup you can get like 100k on crawlers with no multikill assuming you have nobi on. I know that because I also pushed to wurms earlier than I should have

[feral hemlock]

Is Vman best for this shimmer?

[tacit tulip]

I swear I'm the only person who actually waited to push to wurms...

[paper sail]

I stayed long enough to get the stamp and CHOW, then retired BB to the kitchen

[sharp igloo]

Maybe? Not sure if Id do it again without MK lol

[old portal]

iirc its enough with the 1 shot killing of the aura

[tacit tulip]

ES can get higher but it's reliant on tornado rng

[feral hemlock]

Also maybe bubo? Bcause of aura

[signal osprey]

In my defense I multikilled everything up to that map and was still getting a little over 100k per hour even without multikill

[tacit tulip]

maybe, bubos hits per second relies on killing mobs, which it can't do in that map. Hard to cast aura with no cool down decrease

[signal osprey]

As far as pushing W5 too soon goes I think mine was relatively okay

[sonic rivet]

should i just get as many as 1m on bb as possible before retiring to kitchen

[sharp igloo]

100k an hour isnt too bad. 30k an hour was pretty bad. 8k an hour would not be worth it at all

[paper sail]

8k sounds like not even damage capping which is incredibly easy

because that means.. 2k without lab or nobi

[sharp igloo]

I assumed the 8k was without nobi

[paper sail]

or like 12% afk gains lmao

[signal osprey]

At that kph homie must have been pushing W5 since it released. Hes almost there

[green eagle]

whyyyy 😩

[paper sail]

they said they have the "multikill divinity" which I took as wearing Nobi

[sharp igloo]

Oh I missed that

[merry pulsar]

and my game crashed...

[last quiver]

my po box keeps not refreshing even with no shields some days

[paper sail]

I'd buy it. Still better than the 39% loot captain I picked up today

🥲

[upbeat trout]

is there any way to speed up forge ?

[signal osprey]

Gotta remember to reset to an uncompleted order before you clear your shield. I forget that sometimes too lol

[tacit tulip]

kinda

The archer talents for kills will force the forge to create bars - but it hits the cap very easily

[green eagle]

i guess that's true. who should i replace? 🤔

[tacit tulip]

only way to increase the amount per claim is to increase your max forge capacity

[paper sail]

M or K, hands down

[upbeat trout]

uhh ok, thx

[paper sail]

Arti Chance

[green eagle]

think i'll go with k, the speed is hardly helpful, and at least M has a higher total chance for the the stat

[paper sail]

I'm working on eliminating speed

[zinc torrent]

I'm having an issue with usernames cause my first character created however, with my second character it won't let me put in any username because even spamming my keyboard it say username taken

[green eagle]

unless i see a stellar cap, i keep them (obviously). i'm hopeful that maybe he will release new islands with new worlds and that the speed will be helpful again

[neat barn]

sup gaise, what does passive mean for cards? that the bonus applies regardless of it being equiped?

oh ok, tyyyy

[paper sail]

Even my slowest boat can clear island 13 in 97 minutes. If I let it go the full 120 minute base time, it can clear island 14. I'm not too worried about new islands currently

[green eagle]

yep, my slowest one atm gets to island 14 in 2hr as well. i'm just hoping maybe he releases 5 islands with the new world maybe? i know it's wishful thinking lol but it's the copium i take

[snow light]

for divinities is minor link always active?

[green eagle]

you have to be linked to that god to have any of the link bonuses. the blessing is always active

[paper sail]

Yeah, it'll depend on how huge of gaps he creates lol. My fastest ship rn is 524m and highest island only needed 100m

I need to reswizzle my captains around. Haven't done that in a while. Just working on target-focusing islands to bump the Speed of the lowest boats base, before captains considered

[prisma furnace]

Dafuq, how rare is Weapon Upgrade stone C from post office. Been resetting it 600 times and haven't seen it yet xD

just wanted a quick + 1 Slab.. Didn't expect to be sitting here chucking pens for an eternity

[nimble palm]

Are you using the pens on the correct delivery?

[steep zealot]

I stopped working on Slab for now. A lot of the things don't seem to register when you get em so I got annoyed lol.

[nimble palm]

Click gem shop every time you get a new item

[steep zealot]

Wtf

[fast grail]

skill issue, like 20

[signal osprey]

For what its worth resetting PO6 is how you farm colo tickets anyway

Do those every day and you'll get the stone eventually

[prisma furnace]

true true.. grabbed quite a few meanwhile

[feral hemlock]

Rando then fractal last?

[merry pulsar]

anybody got the link to the excel document?

[sharp vine]

Which one?

[merry pulsar]

the one that tells you the most effiecient way to do everything in this game

[signal osprey]

Sounds like quite the spreadsheet lol

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/6fa5e3d33d755a9e3edb057b08708e18.png

No failures

[sacred verge]

damn thats a nice one

i wish

[green eagle]

jealoussss my lvl 18 has failed 3 times now, but no reset

[potent gust]

more pop

+1 instant wow

[bleak field]

so I assume it's normal to have 1 exp/hour when starting divinity or am I missing some multipliers?

[green eagle]

100% normal

[bleak field]

divinity jail 😦

maybe now I'm gonna be forced to study at least

[sharp vine]

Still no clue which one you're talking about but it's maybe in #1084911530417606656 unless it was removed during the sailing/doot debacles

[green eagle]

that marble slab is rather cold and hard for a while

[potent gust]

Don't worry soon enough you'll free them to be lab slaves again

[green eagle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

i'm assuming you mean the copy of the old guide sheet?

[merry pulsar]

ty ty @green eagle

[bleak field]

Man I'm still on w3 alch bubbles as well so I'm not going to be getting any bonus div exp from alchemy anytime soon

[dreamy rapids]

How much Tooth do I get from Nightmare Kattle?

[nimble palm]

Gotta silver them up

[signal osprey]

Your tooth drops will vary based on drop rate. Go kill him and see what you get

[potent gust]

Soon haha \o/

[raw tundra]

not gainin gexp when linked with goat huh? 😦

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure that picture says you got exp

[steep zealot]

For the Soda Poisoning achievement, is it only using 3 poison elders or having 3 in total /w other towers?

[lost depot]

Is it too early to start saving gems for W6?

[steep zealot]

Do you need anything else from the shop for other worlds?

[last quiver]

what do you guys use your 95% off stamps on

@dreamy rapids i get 3 per

[dreamy rapids]

So if I want 100 teeths Should I do the normal difficulty?

[signal osprey]

I just kinda use my 95% on whatever I feel like at the time. Waiting 5 days for full hydrogen is the bottleneck for maxing out stamps so eventually you ned up with more 95%'s than you know what to do with

[dreamy rapids]

90% of the time I waste the 95% on leveling some stamp I forgot to focus on

[signal osprey]

Eventually we'll have more 95's than we can even use so its not really a big deal

They'll just be stacking up and doing nothing

[dreamy rapids]

So again what is the most efficient way to farm Teeth

Do normal mod or Nightmare?

[eager sedge]

normal is better nightmare is faster

[green eagle]

tis the way when farming all bosses

[signal osprey]

Just farm nightmare

You have to if you want all your trophies anyway

And youll get way more teeth than you could ever realistically need while doing that

[paper sail]

but I wanna gstack

[signal osprey]

Thats what you do when you farm normal for gems after finishing the trophies

[paper sail]

Ye

I did a mix tbh. I have 5 trophies and 5 fighting character so.. Seems fine

[vestal delta]

how many levels per day are you guys getting in construction? I feel like I'm doing something wrong compared to the numbers I've seen

[paper sail]

I can't look without breaking my obol snapshot

[vestal delta]

oh god where does the 50x multiplier come from

[signal osprey]

Bob

[paper sail]

4 big things:

1. Call Me Bob level and equipped
2. Carpenter bubble leveled
3. Playing on an Active DK
4. Cogboard looks something like this, with Hotdog hat DK being super juiced by all of the directional cogs

[vestal delta]

OH THAT IS A VERY NEGLECTED BUBBLE OMG

okay, wow yeah I was missing that completely

is bob multiplicative with the cog exp gain?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[uneven violet]

For?

[vestal delta]

well that completely explains the gap between what I've seen in other people's numbers

[uneven violet]

I meant for real?

That’s why everyone says level it..

[signal osprey]

[uneven violet]

Not bad

Could be worse

[signal osprey]

And thats without my obols

[uneven violet]

Damn

Forgot obols give cons xp

[signal osprey]

So does being on a warrior

Which I am also not currently doing either

[uneven violet]

Btw

Can I “abuse” opening construction menu on dk then just using other chars like normal

Or does it only give build rate boost when dk is being used

[sick sentinel]

boosted on warriors and dk

[uneven violet]

Cause I saw for some max sample video u gotta do some thing where u use gold foods and potion then open alchemy and then close and change rooms and food or smth

[signal osprey]

If you mean the build rate from the red salt talent thats added to the DK's base build rate so as long as hes on the board you get it. If you mean the build rate from bubble 2 and carpenter that only works on a warrior and no way to carry it over

[uneven violet]

It doesn’t matter point is noted

Yes I meant that talent I was just wondering if it applied when dk is not active

[pearl cedar]

Ugh I need so many hotdogs

[uneven violet]

Cause I always see a drop in my build rste on other chars

[signal osprey]

Yeah the build speed per red salt talent is factored in to the Dk's build rate so if hes on the board you will be benefiting from it

[uneven violet]

Cons is still such a pain

[signal osprey]

Thats some blasphemy right there. Con is life

[uneven violet]

Only 44k max br when dk is active

Life is pain btw

I’m so close kind of to unlocking vman and vtower

[vestal delta]

is the con obol snapshotting is just filling up obols -> gemshop -> put back normal obols?

[signal osprey]

Thats the hard way

[uneven violet]

Legit like 600 purple salt and 200m xp away from both

[sick sentinel]

dont need to gemshop, can just open the cogs tab to refresh it

[signal osprey]

The easy way is put them on an afk character and swap from that character to your active character

[uneven violet]

Oh it’s called snaps hitting

I’ll ask about that later when I wake up

[pearl cedar]

Oh i big dumb that is smart

[vestal delta]

ok so that means that if I ever check the construction tab, I'll have to refresh it again?

[sick sentinel]

buildings no, cogs yes

[vestal delta]

kk thanks

[sick sentinel]

do what contract said tho its the better way

[pearl cedar]

Though I didnt do circle obols cause meh

[sick sentinel]

i made extra hex and sparkle family ones, they're op

[signal osprey]

You can do both if you want as well. Swap to afk character and put on family con obols then swap to active and go back to DR

Gotta get the big gains

[molten cairn]

I can't even remember to swap my afk sparkles back on

fat chance

I just did ten hours of beans without crystal cards on b/c I was doing colo last night

[signal osprey]

[vestal delta]

ohhhh you swap these back in from active -> collecting your afks?

[molten cairn]

yeah supposed to swap them with dice

before you claim afks

[signal osprey]

Yeah you only need them on when you claim your afk gains

[vestal delta]

I've been living wrong this entire time

[sick sentinel]

aint nobody got time for daty

[pearl cedar]

It's only like 20% afk gains not even that big anymore

I'm only remembering them now cause im trying to 5star w5 trees

[molten cairn]

I don't do it for hourlies, try to remember overnight and usually dont

[sacred verge]

any1 of you endgamers that can take a look at my alch and help me out where i should be focusing atoms?

[molten cairn]

probably sample bubbles

[sick sentinel]

chopping stuff, laaarry, bob. have at it

[signal osprey]

Sampling bubbles until you like your samples and then bob

[uneven violet]

Yes on cons

[pearl cedar]

Bubble 2

[sacred verge]

is that picture even readable? lol

[uneven violet]

Carpenter

Till 200

Only to be cool not for actual benefits past a 15% boost probably

[sacred verge]

bubble 2 i know, was planning to sample gmush with vman tho to do it that way instead of atoms

[signal osprey]

For most people carpenter isnt even in atom range until the 190's lol

[uneven violet]

Why am I talking out of my ass

[molten cairn]

it's okay to atom some bubble 2 early on

[uneven violet]

Ignore what I said

[molten cairn]

your gmush sample probably isn't great

[sacred verge]

my carpenter isnt even close to atom range

[signal osprey]

I atomed purple and orange bubble 2 to 950 each

[sacred verge]

its over 5 mill atleast iirc

[signal osprey]

Its some good stuff

[uneven violet]

Nice

[molten cairn]

oh that's alright for printing then

[vestal delta]

any way to fix my daily reset time?
I desynced so hard from DK on wurms that I'm 5 hours behind, and cloud sync isn't fixing it (same with closing/reopening the game)

[sacred verge]

is it worth it to go over 90% if max?

[molten cairn]

if you enter companion park with desynced time it gets eaten

[sick sentinel]

if you enter companions area with desync it pushes your time

[vestal delta]

I tried that too, but it's still 5 hours off 💀

[pearl cedar]

Even a good gmush sample is like maybe 3 or 4 clicks a day id guess

[sick sentinel]

no we are saying cloudsave before going to companions next time

[vestal delta]

OHHH

[sick sentinel]

otherwise it pushes your time

[molten cairn]

there's no pushing it back without silver stopwatch

[sick sentinel]

ye that will be interesting

[signal osprey]

Every single one of my sampling related bubbles is at least 95%

[sacred verge]

alright, got it

i will make you proud

[signal osprey]

It is finally done. 99%

[molten cairn]

99.9% or bust

[sacred verge]

damn

[signal osprey]

Yeah I'm not stopping yet

[molten cairn]

unless you get fish samples on those guys it's not like there's anything else to click

[signal osprey]

I'm a 4 warrior account

[sacred verge]

making it 99.9 is more or less impossible

[signal osprey]

I can print all 6 ores used in bubbles and still have 2 slots for fish anyway

[molten cairn]

im aware 😄

[vestal delta]

are you hitting 1b hourly for all the ores?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[vestal delta]

impressed

[sacred verge]

when snapshotting construction, can i still access the cons tab to uppgrade buildings?

i did not know that

i allways thought it would "reset" and id have to redo the snap

damn

[sick sentinel]

just cogs tab resets it

[signal osprey]

It resets when you change maps or look at cogs

[sick sentinel]

map too ye

[sacred verge]

nice to know

[tacit tulip]

it surprised me that it worked tbh

surely swapping characters involves a map change 😛

[sick sentinel]

good ole respawn char swap

the days

[nimble palm]

How do you snapshot con?

[molten cairn]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[sacred verge]

i probably should invest in some cog cliking aswell soon

my cogs are semi ass

[signal osprey]

I need to do more too

[sacred verge]

i dont even have a proper setup

[onyx bear]

whats a good item to mass make to gain smith lvls?

[signal osprey]

Coldseeker bullet is the highest exp available

[sacred verge]

coldseeker bulleyt

[signal osprey]

If you don't have a high enough level do worship skill food

[nimble olive]

coming back from 7 months of not playing. have all gods unlocked and all chars 100+ in lab. do i throw non actives on bear or leave them on goat

[sick sentinel]

dont need goat anymore rn, swap to other things like hare for prints, omni for progress in other areas, or bear if you dont want to be in lab

the usual play is to do hare/omni for atom printing

[nimble olive]

yeah i need them out of lab. too much too do

bet. thank you

[sick sentinel]

def get them samples up and running when you can and go for those gods, atoms are op

[sacred verge]

at what sailing lvl di u guys finish sailing?

[nimble olive]

lots of work to do zzz

[sick sentinel]

this is finished yeah?

[sacred verge]

lol

im only missing lantern eldrich and ive been going at it for soo long..

[gray thicket]

[sick sentinel]

ye i skipped those and went for actual useful ones since these last 2 literally do nothing

lantern took a month and a half to 2 months

[sacred verge]

yeah i skipped a few aswell but ive since gotten them by just sending like 3 ships for a very long time

in total how many drop rate cards are there?

7 right?

[signal osprey]

I'm not sure whats more impressive the fact that you got the obol at 2.94x dr or the fact that you got to kruk in the first place and somehow still have 2.94x dr

[teal lynx]

How are you level 350 with 2.9x dr?
I thought u just rushed to kattle with 2k kills an hour and beat it on normal. But u actually have decent dmg for now

But boy

2.9x dr`?

Farm some Pops and Dice Obols

Make sure to reroll them on the lowest quality (Bronze for Pops and Silver for Dice)

Pops = Gigafrogs in W1, active ES
Dice should be crystal mobs in W2, active DK with Crystal and DR Cards

[paper nova]

How do I know which obols are safe to trash = that I can farm easiest?

[viral star]

which character should be used for that?

[sick sentinel]

dk for w2, boost your crystal spawn chance, best to have choco chip in lab

es for pops

since its a mob drop

or can candy it when you have better drop rate

[steep zealot]

anyone ever see your other toons just fishing on a random map? xD

[teal lynx]

They most likely using cheats. Better to not advertise it

Often they have websites as clan names

[steep zealot]

What?

[sick sentinel]

thats their own char

[teal lynx]

Oh misread it, getting late here

[steep zealot]

Yeah, that's my vman. I parked him in islands fishing but on my bubo he's just fishing at moles lol

[teal lynx]

Also never saw it, just the people using cheats

[steep zealot]

Hm, weird

[sick sentinel]

ive seen it a handful of times

popped up recently too

[steep zealot]

Did a double take. I thought it was someone just fishing there, then noticed it was my toon lol

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-jerma985-twitch-twitchtv-jermacord-gif-27353071

^ was me

[proud zodiac]

Having Doot just skips the divinity unlock and wasting time keeping characters on divinity? Just reached w5 and i'm not sure if i got that correctly.

[teal lynx]

Get all characters to lvl 2 divinity

Doot then activates for everyone

But in short: Yes, doot lets you skip alot of stuff in Divinity and gives you a massive QoL

[proud zodiac]

Oh, now it makes sense. Thank you for that. Apparently i need doot soon.

[signal osprey]

Me too

[proud zodiac]

Let's throw some money on lava, then.

[sick sentinel]

[signal osprey]

I don't gamble

[teal lynx]

It ain't gambling, you got a pity

[sick sentinel]

[signal osprey]

[clear quartz]

eventually

[pearl cedar]

Technically true

[signal osprey]

I'm not too worried about it

I get doot in 6 days anyway

[pearl cedar]

[fast grail]

Will still need to unlock all gods to upgrade their passive bonuses

[carmine dagger]

Can someone explain to me quickly how the Divinity gain boost works? And also how the minor link bonuses are levelled up?

[little pagoda]

Technically you don't need to unlock to get their main bonus, but that's not why doot is good, it's because you can have them all active at once, you still need to do divinity and get divinity levels and unlock gods

[little pagoda]

Minor links scale with divinity level, that's the main reason you still need to do divinity even with doot

[carmine dagger]

Right, so it's per character?

[little pagoda]

Divinity gain boosts are all just multipliers to xp and points, and they all multiply together

[old crane]

Divinity level is per char

[carmine dagger]

Gotcha

Thankyou guys

[proud zodiac]

Gott it, thank you for the explanations, now it makes sense. Let the afk begin, i guess?

[untold saffron]

fastest grinder for the 6k troll keys?

[stoic silo]

5 hrs passive on ES. lucky or not?

[twin token]

Es

[twin token]

Depends on dr dmg and talent levels

[stoic silo]

dr?

[twin token]

Drop rate

[stoic silo]

ah

I mean I was farming for the main drop for anvil points

[dreamy rapids]

Hmm...

[warm rapids]

I’m on the last part of the w5 boss quest and I have the scarf and wings but the quest is not counting the wings

What am I doing wrong?

[sick sentinel]

wings need to drop on that char with the quest

@warm rapids

[warm rapids]

Frick

That’s lame

Ty

[amber dagger]

Cop or nah?

[sick sentinel]

Meh

[amber dagger]

What are the best stats for sailing guys?

[prisma furnace]

Loot and speed

[red slate]

so, the slab doesn't update often I guess?
I'll have to fuse a new platinum one?

[sick sentinel]

its weird with obols, always make sure at slab that it gets made

sometimes you may need to reroll it/wear it and refresh map for it to count and

[red slate]

well, time to farm again some xp obols then.

[next locust]

Only surefire way I found to slab obols was to refresh w5 town map and access slab after every new upgrade

[red slate]

is there a place with the best totem run recorded somewhere or do I just try myself and pray?

[snow light]

if you have doot pet do you get all the minor benefits as well as the major ones

[last quiver]

anyone have the list that golden stopwatch triggers?

[sick sentinel]

Endgame pins

[clear quartz]

so did some minor resampling yesterday just to not waste my weekly godswaps, might do 2-3 more chars over the next 2-3 weeks and get everyone set for awhile, seems overall doubled prints but unsure what i wanna work toward now.

[amber dagger]

Does fractal Island even work?

[umbral tapir]

Repeat colours doesn't affect shiny pet yard progress right? Like, if I have 9 shinies, the progress isn't hindered by dupe colours?

[tacit tulip]

believe it's broken on mobile

yeah the colour is meaningless, if there's 9 in the yard, you get 9x progress

[umbral tapir]

Booya. I have like +50% shiny progress now too from all the other pets. Sailing speed and artifact find chance, here we goooooo

[clear quartz]

i guess tahts still a goal then, i should hard push some shinies

fairly passive one tho

[umbral tapir]

I push level 6 then go next.

[old coyote]

how game changing is unlocking vman? is rushing it fine? my main is just 210, and im debating if i go straight for deathnote kills with ES or if i gear up a DK or bubo to do it instead

[green eagle]

Straight broken tbh, vman is a great class for boosting your entire account

[crystal temple]

you have to swap his skills a lot to make it worth, especially earlier on when you have fewer points for the tab but boy is it worth it

[serene kiln]

Broken damage too when you lvl quick slap to oblivion

[clear quartz]

i guess i should be pushing some dmg bubbles more

hmmm vman, i havent tried to portal push in awhile, wonder if i can make it to chiz yet

[old coyote]

kk, and how bad is es for deathnote? Should I start prepping to swap to bubo or DK?

[midnight pebble]

quick slap probs my next goal to push portals on vman

[crystal temple]

If i remember correctly es portal mobs dont count for deathnote

so swapping is better

[clear quartz]

i think im at technically hourly clicks for logs now at least, so i wont waste bubbles on that anymore, but aside from hard pushing larry and cranium cook bubble unsure what i really want now

[red slate]

Thanks, where are they shared usually ?

[clear quartz]

maybe should pause on those and start pumping quick slap after i get it to atoms range

[sick sentinel]

More laaarry

If cant sustain do more chopping related bubbles

[tacit tulip]

dunno 😄

[sick sentinel]

Prob just spread around

Saki had a vid in #1084911530417606656 but it wasnt that run

[clear quartz]

depending on my elephant luck and printer go brr i can use like 10-20 ish atoms on larry but nothing else really, i tend to just dump on the hocus choppus after that, maybe do a few lvls in cranium i guess as well

[lost depot]

Even a low-ish level vman can boost cooking by several orders of magnitude

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/a52b7fb34f55d65330d44082af20f423.png

where should I atom next?

[clear quartz]

thats a lot of larry, does it actually give +3 post 501?

[untold saffron]

ye

chance of

thats 110%

[clear quartz]

well farts. i guess ill still try to get 500 ish before i focus more on other stuff since thatll be a slog

[untold saffron]

750 ish is 105% i think?

[clear quartz]

imagine if i ever get doot things will spike a bit, having all elephant will be yuge

[sacred verge]

something like 900 is 108%

[clear quartz]

still feels low, but every now and then i get lucky on my printer go brr and ill get 10+ procs

[sacred verge]

thats not that bad tbh

[clear quartz]

im assuming toolbox accounts for the multiplier from the arti? so thatll grow as i get farther away from my sample

[sacred verge]

yes

[clear quartz]

yeah i suppose not bad for being on day 0 of a sample cycle

[sacred verge]

i mean, its not supergood 😛 but its not superbad

[clear quartz]

right, just mid haha

[sacred verge]

what ur oak print? like 100m?

[sacred verge]

ah nice

[untold saffron]

thats a solid oak sample

[sacred verge]

yeah

[clear quartz]

i only redid my pg1 mages and my dk ore pritns

[sacred verge]

better than my copper sample

lol

but mine is super duper old

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/90ba5831b303ce5b38c09302dccce29f.png

who needs oak samples when you can do this instead

[potent maple]

I'm kinda stuck on Rift 41, (kill all mobs before they respawn), does anyone know best characters to do this with? Or is there a recommended dmg chart anywhere?

[untold saffron]

I'd assume an ES

[sacred monolith]

I usually do those with ES and DK. SB isn't bad either

[clear quartz]

sb and ES were my go to for those

although im not pushing past 41 anytie soon i wager

[sacred monolith]

I'm stalled on 47. But no reason to push it too had at the moment anyway

[paper sail]

If I can't have the next bonus within 3 seconds, I don't want to live

[clear quartz]

ruby cards will probably be my next big thing for samples ig

[potent maple]

i really wanna unlock ruby cards before i bother trying to work on red skulls for death note

seems to go hand in hand that way

[sacred monolith]

Getting the ruby cards has been a nice excuse to also work on 1B for deathnote

[clear quartz]

oh yeah, deathnote probably needs work

[sacred monolith]

Eclipse is pretty impactful

[clear quartz]

im almost done with all the pets unlocked and can just spam eggs on upgrading my terrritories or just doing those achieves, then i can put sb somewhere else and work toward eclipse again maybe, although kph is stll pretty mid

[sacred monolith]

Pets is nice to get off your plate. Only reason I go there now is to check on shinies in the fenceyard

[clear quartz]

thats what im hoping for soon, although i guess i have a bunch of dudes hanging out in w4 town

if i ever get doot tho only bubo will sit there, or bb i guess whenever im doing that

unsure if having bubo become the cooking lvl master is gonna matter that much, but figure that star talent for cash combos nicely with all of bubos other cash things

[sacred monolith]

Cooking levels are pretty much a non-factor relative to the other bonuses and stuff available

Which is good because leveling it is a joke

[clear quartz]

gotcha. maybe ill park bubo back on div i guess when not doing active

yeah i hate how slow it is, that bonus from rift i dont see ever hitting 1k

[sacred monolith]

I've divinity pearled every character up to 50. And my BB is at like 53. Probably as much progress as will be made until cooking gets the same treatment as fishing or something like that

[clear quartz]

i might push for 500 at some point if i start getting a buttload of pearls i guess but yeah

right

[ashen marsh]

anyway to make this last longer?

[sacred monolith]

Higher levels

[ashen marsh]

that's it right

[sacred monolith]

Yep

[ashen marsh]

lol having trouble on rift with 180 kill count

[sacred monolith]

Yeah, might be tough until you up your skill cap

Or your damage if you're not one shotting

[zealous niche]

It’s worth using the 20 book spend on orb

[vagrant jetty]

Do crystal island mobs stack if you dont kill them?

[zealous niche]

If that is the max your talents can go to atm you need to fix that first

[zealous niche]

To a limited degree like trash and bottles

[vagrant jetty]

Got it

[zealous niche]

Iirc it’s a week before you start losing some

[paper sail]

I believe I've heard they cap after a week

[vagrant jetty]

Was trying to maximize orb on DK for them

[clear quartz]

i kinda wanna unlock crystal next, just to have a cheap way to lvl vman

but fractal might be actually useful if i care to spam that

[pearl cedar]

Can't decide on fractal or rando for next island, I guess rando

[burnt sail]

When do folks generally start going for eclipsing deathnote? Are there any common thresholds as far as kph, damage, MK %, etc.?

[paper sail]

Moreso based on the amount of candy you have stashed vs time to get started.

[burnt sail]

Ah. I only have around 6.3k hours worth.

[misty spindle]

Do I finally turn off the cat rock and actually go for points?

[little pagoda]

Personally I leave rock on for more shell levels and more plants in general

But if you don't caim often turn it off

[misty spindle]

I just got chemical no idea what to do with it tho

[little pagoda]

it's a net positive especially if you have upgraded it a bit

[nimble olive]

hey guys first day back after returning from like 7 months away from game. would it be alright to post ie for some direction on where to prioritize my time and guys

[misty spindle]

Im gonna be away for about 17 hours

[little pagoda]

let it grow to stage 4, collect every other plant and then collect chemical to refill garden

[misty spindle]

specifically stage 4 huh?

[zealous niche]

5/6/7 take absurd amounts of extra time

[empty ridge]

I’m still waiting on the evergreen lol, been months of trying

[opaque sun]

cat rock is also for points theoretically if you can harvest it frequently

Like if you can harvest 4 times more, it basically off-sets 33% points lost

[nimble palm]

You ever had cat on?

[sour oasis]

Just got onyx oceanman

With 55 statues an hour 😎

[reef kernel]

Is multikill applied equaly to all portal mobs in one map, or as higher the number and tankier the mob, the less multikill is applied?

[shrewd pollen]

do you ever replace boats or are only upgradeable?

[viscid kiln]

What's the reward cap?

[unkempt arch]

4x iirc

[velvet hornet]

Are the royal suggma urns used for ANYTHING?

[velvet hornet]

Is that it...?

:(

Okay

[calm steeple]

not very useful sadly

[compact temple]

do i need to collect all treasures before being able to get eldritch unlocks

[fossil urchin]

no, you just you need to unlock eldritch in rift before being able to get them

[nimble olive]

was swapping between ios and steam ever fixed with talents resetting etc

[sick wadi]

how many plunder kills should i expect an hour on oranges?

[opaque sun]

you get multikill per damage tier. So lets say you got a bonus of 500% multi kill per damage tier. On a weaker mob you get more damage tiers like say 10x, making you get the 500% bonus 10 times. On a tankier mob, you deal less damage tiers of say 3x, so you only get 500% * 3 of the multikill bonus.

Damage tier is determined by how much more character sheet max damage you have in relative to mob’s max HP

[reef kernel]

This applys to portal kills as well, ass their HP grows with each kill, right?

[opaque sun]

portal you mean wormhole of ES?

wormhole mobs are wormhole mobs so kind of not really deathnote

[sick sentinel]

With vman enhance maybe 800 or more

[opaque sun]

and any case, multikills are set in stone by map

the “actual” mob HP in combat has nothing to do with the calculation

[reef kernel]

Oh, this I wanted to know, yeah I meant wormholes, thanks 😄

[opaque sun]

The map checks your max damage and calculates it against the “mob HP” the map looks at, and then figures out the multikill damage tier. So for example the word bosses uses the same map mob Hp (wode board’s HP at amarok) to determine the damage tier

Not like amarok counts kills, but if it did its using wode board Hp as a reference, which matters for the money star talent

[sick wadi]

ty, thats around what im getting but it seemed super low

[opaque sun]

The actual damage you deal to a mob to kill also doesnt matter

If you have multikill bonus of 50000%, you can kill an enemy with 1 damage and still get the 50000% multikill

[old crane]

Cloudsaving before changing is all I've heard to try to stop that, although I never tried with ios

I normally use android, when I do play on pc its usually just to load into one char and don't change any talents or presets on there

[zealous niche]

Presets are all locally saved. The active ones are transferred, but the other ones are not

[opaque sun]

the game isnt really made for casual device transfer. Its more as a mean for a one time thing when you actually bought a new device

[sour oasis]

Are there min/max sets for gearing certain classes? I feel like ive seen recommendations like magma gear for skilling; Divine boots/helm and magma chest/legs for fighting. Just looking to upgrade my DK and bubo for now as i dont have a ton of grey salts and they are both full troll

I have enough to make 2 full magma sets and enough Kruk teeth for full divine as well

[opaque sun]

if the misc stat applies for the task, divine. Else magma

Its really that simple

[autumn wasp]

i find dr on kruk hat and boots are good

[sour oasis]

So essentially the mob respawn on divine pants and chest is not super helpful for active fighters

But good on blood zerk and SB

[opaque sun]

Most of the time, equipments basically boils down to its misc for 90% of the things

SB also basically ignores resapwn

unless you mean for afk

[sour oasis]

Even when AFK?

[opaque sun]

respawn is effectively fight afk gain

[sour oasis]

I did mean for AFK just thinking in terms of GMush killing which ive parked him at for probably too long

[opaque sun]

If it does afk combat alot, divine body and pants are good

If it doesnt, but like say a lab drone that comes out doing skill samples (mining/chopping), magma

For active combat, magma usually provides a bit more damage, but its not that big of a difference and like you dont need too much damage for active

[autumn wasp]

does damage affect afk combat?

[opaque sun]

like it slightly does with multikill tier

But its not like using divine tanks your damage so hard

[sour oasis]

Thank you for answering

I will consider this

[autumn wasp]

for some reason i get higher kph in the away info when i equip magma over kruk

[opaque sun]

Like magma is around 2-3% more damage than divine so for most case it wont change your damage tier

[autumn wasp]

but it changes when i go into alchemy and go out

[opaque sun]

If you just on the borderline of damage tier, it will affect but that happens rarely

[autumn wasp]

i see

[opaque sun]

It just seems like its just taking time to update

It takes few seconds to recalculate things when changing gear mid combat

[old coyote]

wheres the guide for what trash island to go to?( Inwhat order)

[autumn wasp]

tips n tricks

[old coyote]

ty

[opaque sun]

fractal island is currently considered to shifted to last priority due to how people figured out its not tied to any time gate mechanic, and crystal island turned out to be more useful than it initially sounded

[stark lily]

Looks like first main map for squire statue farming is wurms. What would someone consider to be the second best map to statue farm?

[vagrant jetty]

Depends what you’re looking for

Beans, wurms are typically pretty good

[reef kernel]

how is the crystal island more importaint? I heard its meh, is it due to giant crystals + chocolate cookie?

[opaque sun]

Its basically like 14-21 giants per week

Means more candies to fuel fractal anyway

[stark lily]

Looking to get 20k w5 statues for onyx. Problem is my squire hasn't gotten to wurms because I wasn't pushing him before.

[opaque sun]

like a guy who unlocked crystal island first will get more fractal island progress as unlocking fractal early doesnt add any daily/weekly freebies

[vagrant jetty]

Id personally just push to wurms before doing statues

[opaque sun]

And milage of rando island varies depending on how often you plan to do random events, and it uses bottles to upgrade stuff which wont happen as you cant really spare bottles until you unlock all island

[vagrant jetty]

Or as an alternative, if I wanted to do 2 things at once, id farm citranges with bubo equipped with crystal cards

[opaque sun]

So by elimination, crystal island comes into 4th, and rando/fractal being pushed back to 5th/6th island

[vagrant jetty]

Wont be as fast or effective as dk on wurms but at least you can do alch with statues on the side

[stark lily]

Thats not a bad idea, actually. Never bad idea to do alchemy

[bleak gust]

what would first three be

[reef kernel]

Oh, thank you, that was very informative 😄

[bleak gust]

i only got trash island

[old coyote]

if i leave crystal island and come back

will the mobs still be there

[formal minnow]

No

They do not stay, nothing really stays if I remember correctly. The trash can despawn, stamps from trash island pause before dropping, and they can despawn if you leave the map thinking it's in your inv, and I believe bottles and random island despawn if you leave

[old coyote]

how many mobs spawn per day? I messed up and am killing the mobs verrryyyy slowly

if this is 1 days worth its nbd and i can leave, if this is just cause its my first time here i might have to be here for a while

[opaque sun]

trash > seasalt/shimmer > crystal/rando > fractal
“/“ means their order can be swapped based on your preference

Its been long since island release that people have 4 islands and now almost getting the 5th

[zealous niche]

Got my 5th today

[opaque sun]

rando island upgrades wont happen until much later, but its more of getting the free weekly random boss kills online since fractal doesnt give any other freebies

[formal minnow]

Isn't there an item droprate spreadsheet somewhere?

[sick sentinel]

Like a max drop rate or drop rate guarentee calc?

[formal minnow]

I think it's 3 per day for a week? So 30? And I believe it starts from the day the update released?

Drop rate guarantee calc

But also a max droprate one would be nice if you know the link for that too

[sick sentinel]

I think they are both ij #1084911530417606656

Ye one called guatenteed drop, other max drop rate

[formal minnow]

Thanks

[opaque sun]

Guarantee drop is basically get an afk claim that reaches 2 drops. One note is only base kills are counted towards rare drops

[median horizon]

Hi. I am struggling to advance in w5. Can I get some help?

https://dongyking.idleonefficiency.com/world-2/alchemy

[lapis mesa]

stop on w5, go work on world 1-4, you are missing a ton of stamps and stamp levels, and a ton of bubbles and their levels

you can get sailing start which is useful since its time gated, but you arent quite setup to push w5

[twin token]

Only reason u pushed through w1-5 was to get the new skills

Since there's no w6 and therefore no w6 skills u don't have to worry abt pushing

[lavish cloak]

Whens w6? 6 months +

We gonna get a new channel or just add on to this one?

[gray thicket]

Completely unrelated question, Do any of you know how to name Hydrocarbons with double and triple links?

[median horizon]

Can I have on a high level what stamps/bubbles to focus on?

[simple hound]

if you havent already start working in the lab the best you can with a bubo, even if its just him to start leveling other characters in lab. cooking and construction are also good ones to try and work on getting the highest you can on progress. once you get the no bubble left behind +3 per bubble per day in lab, alchemy bubbles become more of a daily login and dont worry about it thing seeing as you are able to get (i think) up to 10 +3s per day

[sour oasis]

Google hydrocarbon iupac nomenclature

[simple hound]

its what i followed initially

[gray thicket]

I can't understand it but thanks anyways

[median horizon]

Lab and nblb is done! 🙂

[hardy quarry]

Damn, stuck in rift on the elemental sorc level before ruby cards. So close, yet so far away.

[simple hound]

if you dont have it done get cauldrons to max rank and just try and unlock new bubbles, get them to lvl 5 and then you could wait on them, attempt to get rift up to 16 for good boosts to skills efficiency and exp gain, besides that just idle for sailing, gaming, and salts for gear upgrades

[coral goblet]

got my first one

[gray thicket]

Must be nice

[snow light]

is that regular drop from the boss?

or is that W5 all missions done?

cant even think of doing that right now since im only lvl 260 on my active SB

[opaque sun]

Its a quest to drop a cape from the boss while the character is progressing the quest

Dont have to do all w5 quests

[snow light]

ah... i was scared i havent progressed too far in W5 yet and thought that there are people already done with all the quests

those people just built different

[summer glacier]

about to unlock afk pray 😄

[uneven violet]

Nicee

W2 is so neglected…

[toxic token]

Ive unlocked the atom collider, probably 2 days ago and IE is saying that it's not unlocked, any ideas?

[uneven violet]

Can’t wait to get 20m damage to mk blood bones

[uneven violet]

Have u refreshed the tab or uploaded a public profile or smth like that

[toxic token]

relogged game, restarted game, refreshed tab, updated profile

[uneven violet]

Or if I’m not wrong it’s not working rn

Wait it probably is

[toxic token]

does it work for anyone else atm?

I wanted to see my progress on getting my first atom and assumed it would be there

cause IE whining that Im at capacity

[snow light]

ty ty just gonna copy your build and pray i can make it to 120

[summer glacier]

somehow this setup can manage 130 aswell well time to go make dinner and it should be done

[eager sedge]

If ya don t mind cand u tell me ur tower lvls?

[summer glacier]

55 45 49 42 46 46 38 41 15

[toxic token]

think he means the tower level in construction

[eager sedge]

Thanks

[summer glacier]

been giving it a shot since 50 pulse and 39 poisonic think the extra damage is needed

[eager sedge]

Yeah that s what he said💀

Its doable with 34 poison too

[toxic token]

ah, thought he was listing all the towers on the picture xD

[summer glacier]

although this was my first attempt with 4 poisonic had been copying LP_N's build before

[eager sedge]

I see

Ill give it a try after either update release or i get the pc home

[clear quartz]

how does loot from sailing work, are the assorted treasures afforded some random chance as to what you get re regular treasure, gold bars, and the rares? or is there some minimum value needed to get something to spawn

[eager sedge]

Random

U can increase the loot with captains and artifacts

But can t increase the chance to get loot

[clear quartz]

so im jsut unlucky getting the rare drop from final island i guess

[eager sedge]

Yeah

[clear quartz]

think its been like a week or so and not a single instance of getting the rare

[eager sedge]

Had a friend who told me he waited one week to get rare drop from 13th island

[clear quartz]

lol, pain

[eager sedge]

Yeah

[summer glacier]

if you only have 1 ship hitting the last island other's might be overwriting its chest

[clear quartz]

yeah i should maybe put more toward it

or wait til its faster for others since only one of my boats is remotely close to a decent speed

[eager sedge]

My fastest gets to 13th in 19 hours😭

[summer glacier]

should I resample now or wait till i get the eldritch +25 talent artefact

[clear quartz]

4 hhours for me so its still painful

[eager sedge]

If u wanna resample next month

[undone lichen]

Is there a max level to Shiny pets?

[opaque sun]

there is, but not reachable in your life time

[undone lichen]

what would a decent level to reach be?

I have Gmust at level 9

[opaque sun]

5-6 for normal stats. 8-9 for stats you really like

[undone lichen]

ty!

[clear quartz]

i think now is as good a time as any to get everyone to the proper lvls needed to hold all dreadlo tools and maybe push for everyone trolled out at least, maybe get the skilling gear overall taken care of for one each of the classes.

[opaque sun]

chopping and mining uses magma gear (except for boots) for skilling, but catching/fishing still better use the designated skill gears

[clear quartz]

still hope for one day catching to get some sort of scaling thing like the other main skills aside from fishing have

[undone lichen]

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[white cipher]

whats the max number of yard slots u can have

[potent maple]

all 8 that are visible

i so read "card slots" my bad

[white cipher]

haha

[potent maple]

looks like 10 max upgrades for breedability pulse pet shop upgrade (with pet dna), plus gem shop upgrades of fenceyard (2 slots per)

i was even curious why someone in w5 chat was wondring how many card slots there were lol 🙂

[white cipher]

haha yeah that would be a little wild. i got curious reading the above convo i never realizedt their were more shiny pets then slots until now woops

[potent maple]

current meta there isn't much motivation to lvl a shiny pet past lvl 5, so once it's max lvl you can get rid of it

[white cipher]

oh wow thats good to know

[potent maple]

you can even have more than 1 shiny at a time and it counts all their progress together

[white cipher]

i only just got my first one

[potent maple]

do you use idleontoolbox.com? it has lots of features but specifically it has trackers for little things like shiny pets

[white cipher]

oh yeah i use it big time. i only just started moving with pets like just got all the spices i need for the lab and am working on my spice layout

finally got lucky with getting the pets i needed to progress

[potent maple]

nodnod, so w4 breeding (under "account" tab) has that clickbox "apply lvl threshold" which removes all pets that are lvl 5 shiny or above, that's what that button is for, so that way you can see what shiny pets still need upgrades

[white cipher]

sweet

[potent maple]

if you happen to have 10 shiny pets of the same kind, it'll lvl up 10x faster

[white cipher]

yeah ill check it out. I want to focus on spice gathering rates first b4 shinys but good to plan ahead always

[potent maple]

so you can do a bunch of exp on one pet at once, or spread it out, depending on what you can get and what you want! 😄

[white cipher]

Ill prob use it to see which to go for first based on their bonus

[potent maple]

yeah, spice is crucial to unlock some bonuses

[white cipher]

yeah with lab being so long i decided i cant afford to miss anything anymore

[potent maple]

precicely good use of tools available!

[white cipher]

right now i have one bean shiny and that was just to see what that did haha

[potent maple]

i'm an old player, i sat in lab forever, since w5 came out ive been neglecting lab

[potent maple]

NEVER hurts to learn somethin

[white cipher]

i have like 5 guys in the lab for months before i learned how to actually set it up lol

but the good news was now most of my guys are at levler75 lab

[potent maple]

i did lab god for enough of them and haven't messed with gods since then either, i'm sure i have major gaps in my potential right now

[white cipher]

yeah i feel that

im still working on printing and OC havent even touched atoms basically

[potent maple]

i bet if someone looked at my idleontoolbox they'd be like "why the fuck are you doing THIS"

well i assure you it's not on purpose, just laze 😄

[white cipher]

everyone talks about being optimal but ultimatly you chose your own path

[potent maple]

i hold off on printing samples until i have time to do it perfect, but someone made a point that it's better to have slightly imperfect than nothing

[white cipher]

their is no true optimal unless your an older player. im only a year in and so i didnt have the time to marinate in w2 or 3

[potent maple]

so i went and grabbed a quick copper sample with no prep, and it was like 8x my previous sample. so. do a sample rq of copper or oak for your atoms, don't worry about it just do it, see how it feels?

[white cipher]

my current goal is maxing vials i think plus the lab stuff

[white cipher]

prob a good idea

yeah i would def say get new samples tho for u

[zenith cape]

What pet gives tsar? Is it random?

Oh oops wrong place lol

[opaque sun]

poop and purple mush

[white cipher]

its ok i also asked about w4 stuff my bad

[zenith cape]

Oh ok, thanks. I haven't unlocked those yet but the genetics showed up in the list like I unlocked it

[potent maple]

i'm workin on greenstacks and statues, haven't gotten ruby cards unlocked but when i do i'll be working on redskulling deathnote

[white cipher]

nice. greenstacks is something i am keeping in mind for skilling mats. and i think my guys are too low to get farther in void atm

[white cipher]

WAAAAAA

i have like 23

[potent maple]

i'm older and i don't push hard enough to be tru endgamer, so i do stuff in the middle

i've been kinda workin on greenstacking for like a month or so, that's what got me to finally redo my copper (and other) samples without being such a tryhard

[white cipher]

wow

well samples for fighting mats are always kinda low compared to like copper or flies

[potent maple]

cuz i wanna greenstack all the ingots too, my forge and printer are both doing blue right now

i didn't sample the fighting mats, i relied on multikill and put all my dudes in a place overnight to get like 10M mats overnight (less and less the higher the zone it is)

[white cipher]

i really need to buy auto collect i think

[potent maple]

for straight greenstacking, i dont think so, afk gains can be worth so much with multikill etc

but for autocollect itself, i've never regretted that purchase and it has always helped

[white cipher]

i have my guys all over atm

some are in w5 just to level, some getting vial mats, my maestro is skilling to be number 1 in skills

[potent maple]

sounds like you're on the right track, keep it up!

[white cipher]

thanks, the game never makes me feel bored

[potent maple]

i feel great about chatting but i must go i apologize

[white cipher]

no worries thanks for the help

[zealous niche]

Anybody happen to know how high you need to push the talent bubbles before you’re just creating extra points that will never be used?

Assuming 245 stays max of course

You need 3675 in total, but I’m unsure how much of that needs to come from the bubble

[opaque sun]

roughly around 600-700 bubbles where i reached a point i can max everything

1200 ish for vman as he doesnt get extra caldron color bonuses

[zealous niche]

So, orange/purp 600 and green 1200

Not too far off then

[clear quartz]

oh yeah i should work on greenstacking ingots at some point.a nd maybe getting the dreadlo vial done

too easy for me to get distracted with all my assorted goals, think i may do a sampling run with vman tonight and work some of those vials through prints,a lthough i know i was planning on printing some mob mats for bubbles, ill have to think about what else i need

[sour flare]

best bubo maps for each world boys?

[opaque sun]

Why would you ever need best bubo map for each world

Like soda cans and floms if you are weak, oj or wurms if you can handle w5

There is no real point to active bubo on any other map unless you are really really weak

[sour flare]

i am too lazy to swap around my chips to go on dk 😦

[glossy rain]

What time should i start waitin for t6 plants? Im at 4,5 min/cycle and it feels like forever

[opaque sun]

Bubo isnt for statue farm anyway

a half assed dk does better than bubo for farming statues from each world

[sour flare]

i did it at 2.3 min and it still took like 4 days to hit all t6

i know topbird guess ill go change this shit

[glossy rain]

Well that will take a loong time i guess

[clear quartz]

7.3/m here, now that i have snail tho i can work on getting that down i suppose, still imagine itll be a long time before im aiming for t6

[zenith cape]

Should I put my vman I'm chiz armor? Yes? No?

[sacred verge]

yes

[dreamy rapids]

FML I just wasted 70 keys by accidentally leaving the boss arena