lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[tardy oak]

can you stop the chrystalin stamp drop? if i active farm with my siege breaker on moles the crystal capybara drops the stamps always

[tacit tulip]

Finish the quest

Stamp piggy, end of world 1?

[glossy gate]

should i push till lava larry?

[teal lynx]

What is Lava Larry?

Do you mean one of those Mobs or the Boss?

[signal osprey]

Lava Larry is the W5 task board npc and yes if you're able to do his quest and unlock merits thats probably worth doing

[teal lynx]

Oh good to know

[glossy gate]

should i get nobisect first maybe?

[signal osprey]

It would speed it up yeah but how quickly you get it is also kind of rng. I would personally have someone try to do the quest anyway and if you get nobi in time then thats just a bonus

The quest only requires being able to kill the 3rd enemy in W5 so even without nobi it should be fairly doable assuming defense and accuracy arent issues

[glossy gate]

i havent unlocked the portals yet

sooo nobi would 2xspeed it

[signal osprey]

Well yeah but what I'm saying is if it takes you longer to get nobi unlocked then it would take you to push the portals without nobi then you're still losing time. You should have someone active farming anyway so why not push for the quest now

[zinc torrent]

Is this a decent crystal spawn chance?

[paper sail]

Decent enough to start farming crystals, sure

I'm at more than 2x that rate for reference, so room to grow

[red totem]

hey

[cursive forge]

why didnt it reset

goddamn bugs

[plucky sphinx]

2 bubo, dk, siege right?

am i arcading for this class swap token?

[glossy gate]

what

[plucky sphinx]

i have 2 bb's

[cerulean hemlock]

I'm tired.

[plucky sphinx]

and there's an elite class swap token in the shop atm

is it better to have 2 dks is i guess the question

but also clarifying the other 2 classes

[cerulean hemlock]

Yes

[paper sail]

2 ES is the current meta, not Bubo

[plucky sphinx]

rip my arcade balls

yea idk why i thought bubo, my lab levels are all done

[untold saffron]

is it overboard to get a second set of choppin' obols to use on the family page sampling?

[tacit tulip]

I'd make the sparkles but maybe not the rest

obol capacity can become an issue

[cursive forge]

may I know why egg is faster than turkey

and should I use ladles to speed to the process

[tacit tulip]

egg will already be partially completed

so it's less time to finish it off

rather than the full level

[cursive forge]

sorry but I dont understand by partially completed

what's the bonuses

like where does it come from

[tacit tulip]

ah actually, was wrong

suggests you have some tables doing something else other than turkey

[cursive forge]

that's weird

I dont

oh wait actually I do

Im unlocking new recipe on my first table

[tacit tulip]

that'll be why

table 1 is by far the fastest

due to how easy the spices are to get

[cursive forge]

another question

should I use all my spices to level my tables

[tacit tulip]

You'll want to save some for bubbles

and you might wanna plan ahead for certain chips while your cooking is slow

but otherwise, yes, go ahead

[cursive forge]

alr

[tacit tulip]

diamond chef in particular should be a priority for spice spending

[cursive forge]

ye I can tell diamond chef is the most important

but I have none diamon plate yetr

feeling like I should ladle until some diamond plate

[tacit tulip]

ye not gonna help much until then 😄

[cursive forge]

only skill matter is this right

Im gonna respec

[tacit tulip]

for ladle using yeah

[cursive forge]

does eff affect ladle?

[tacit tulip]

effects ladle gains from afk

but not the ladles themselves

[cursive forge]

ah so only that one is important

as Im not going to leave divinity for a while

[tacit tulip]

IE's statement here is assuming your ladle skill is maxed

so currently, if it was set to 100

[cursive forge]

ye I just got a book to get it to 141

should be a lot lower

[tacit tulip]

yup 🙂

[cursive forge]

gonna spend some ladles tonight

[tacit tulip]

assuming you don't have one yet, Vman talent is strong for cooking speed

though while your plate levels are low, it does almost nothing due to being 1/100 the bonus the game suggests it should be

[cursive forge]

ye

[cerulean hemlock]

Where do you unlock the trasher pet again?

I can unlock it I hope

[tacit tulip]

if you had that at 100 it'd be 0.66%

1.0066^62 = 1.504 = 50.4% increase

Game will only give you 0.5% though, because it's mean

[cursive forge]

xd

[tacit tulip]

however once you really get cooking going the buff from Vman is huge

That's 315 billion%

[cursive forge]

ye just need to get my diamond chef going

which will require my pet going

I guess Im trying

dont think I missed out on something

its just luck

[tacit tulip]

luck and twisting numbers in your favor. At this point, probably just DNA from the splicer

[cursive forge]

I really want to switch off all targeters

for the duck

but I dont have that much duck yet

[paper sail]

Duck is so annoying to maintain 😨

[tacit tulip]

theses are the most important pets you can unlock. With these three unlocked, it's possible to finish breeding

[cursive forge]

gonna take a while

[thin rose]

Easy to cook

[cursive forge]

only if divinity progress faster

really need to work on spices

seems like NBNL will not work on diamond chef

heard that there is an upgrade that will make it upgrade but I havent got it

[thin rose]

[cursive forge]

damn

thats my first 100

but it sucked

[red totem]

yo

i am suffering

what do i do

[cursive forge]

I can help you when trading comes

[red totem]

but

theres a problem

[untold lintel]

what map do I go to after flom's for CC?

[red totem]

flombreige

?

[untold lintel]

ye

[untold lintel]

what after that

[red totem]

no other map

[untold lintel]

o

[red totem]

fight the boss

[untold lintel]

i mean for CC

[red totem]

"CC"?

[untold lintel]

why are u in W5 chat

[red totem]

I am in W5

?

[untold lintel]

CC = cranium cooking

[red totem]

BRO

that thing

[untold lintel]

okay but you dont know common terminology?

[red totem]

so long

since i last heard that

[cursive forge]

dayum

[untold lintel]

okay yeah W5 chats no help like I remember

[cursive forge]

what was that luck man

[red totem]

bro

[cursive forge]

can you split your luck with me

[red totem]

id love to

cuz

like 2 doots is pretty useless

[tacit tulip]

Moltis in w5 after floms. Then citringes, then tremor wurms

[cursive forge]

I mean ye but

dayum

[red totem]

Imagie

[cursive forge]

Im feeling it

my companion just reset

Im getting doot

[red totem]

im sitting there hoping to get something good

like i almost got a rift slug

alrigjt?

and then

it gives me ANOTHER doot

Like

[cursive forge]

almost got a rift slug haha

close enough

[red totem]

yeah!

and just before that

dedodated ram

[cursive forge]

Im just depressed

[red totem]

like

im a pure F2p

Cant spend a dime

[sacred verge]

thats insane, autoloot is a must have

[red totem]

and have been playing this game for a year or two

[red totem]

fr fr

i cant auto overnight

[sacred verge]

lol

the loss

[red totem]

It took me a godamn month to get through w5

[cursive forge]

Ive got 6 pairs

[red totem]

correction: THREE months

[cursive forge]

I just saw that

[red totem]

also

have you guys heard of

double maesttro?

is that any good?

[cursive forge]

not really

at least thats what I heard

[red totem]

does it stack?

[cursive forge]

which skill

[red totem]

the arms one

[cursive forge]

I dont think so

[teal lynx]

I don't think so. Since one will always be behind one other

[misty spindle]

Should I keep opening them or maybe use SBs ability?

[red totem]

think about it like a ladder

one helps pull the other up and vice versa

does that work?

[teal lynx]

SB won't help with Artifacts. So best to just spam for Fury

[red totem]

SB? (New to the community)

[teal lynx]

Technically yes, but Vman already enhances Hands for himself

[misty spindle]

yeah I want to anchient it just wondering whats my best strat

[teal lynx]

Siegebreaker

[red totem]

true

so, would it apply twice???

[misty spindle]

is tusk the only way to increase artifact chance?

[red totem]

that would be crazy since its multiplicative

[teal lynx]

ES = Elemental Sorcerer, DK = Divine Knight, Bubo = Bubonic Conjuror. Those are the most common

[cursive forge]

siege breaker

[red totem]

yea, My first char a bubo, i dont play active

[teal lynx]

Not sure, but other classes are way better compared to another Vman

[red totem]

because i have something a little cursed

partly due to laziness

and partly due to stubborness

i have doot so all divinities

this means i dont even really need lab slaves

ill probs put them in cooking later

[cursive forge]

I thought you still need lab rats?

[red totem]

but ill miss out on divinity

[teal lynx]

Shiny Pets can increase Artifact Chance

[red totem]

nope,klondike divinity

the bear on

[cursive forge]

but you dont get exp

[cerulean hemlock]

Good for you

[red totem]

allows me to not need them

also

I just wanna say

*ask

[teal lynx]

I hope that Vman is not going for Nothing Hours for Fractal Island. Send him skilling :)

[red totem]

where did the music go

[red totem]

nah just lazy

he skilling mining

[cursive forge]

did you mute the game

[red totem]

no like, new releases no new tracks

[cursive forge]

dayum you dont close noti

[red totem]

damn, you have money

[raw tundra]

what is the best way to gain exp for characters and maestro? meastro can increase the chance of crystal spawn. and i hear crystals give a lot of exp. so that is what iam planning

[teal lynx]

He send it right as I took a Screenshot :(

[red totem]

my bad

[cursive forge]

I mean having it on is already crazy

[red totem]

am a student and parents dont want to spend a dime on games

[cursive forge]

I mute basically all servers haha

except some channels

[teal lynx]

Only cuz he pinged me

[cursive forge]

reasonable

didnt notice that

[red totem]

oh right it auto pings now

[cursive forge]

doesnt matter if youre having fun

[red totem]

wdym????

oh

[cursive forge]

and your luck already destroyed 90% whales

[sacred verge]

im a student aswell but the autoloot is worth it

[cursive forge]

[red totem]

i thought you were going to encourage an act of questionable morality

*dubious

[teal lynx]

20$ is 20$ all I'm gonna say

Worth for Autoloot

[cursive forge]

autoloot is $5

[red totem]

I AGREE THAT AUTOLOOT IS TOO GOOD TO BE PAYWALLED

I SWEAR

WHY

WHY

WHY

IS IT PAYWALLED

THIS GAME COULD'VE BEEN PERFECT

[willow drum]

lava greedy

[red totem]

BUT NOOOOOO

[cursive forge]

its a good qol for active

[red totem]

in my opinion

[cursive forge]

but if you dont active at all

[teal lynx]

Oh it is more about doing an Intimate Act to another Human being for Money. 20$ u know

[sacred verge]

5 $ is literally nothing to, drop a trip to mcdonalds and u can get it twice

[cursive forge]

tru

[red totem]

i dont go to mcdonalds

KFC gang

alot of the gem shop stuff should be upgrades right?

like in W3

for example autoloot

[sick sentinel]

Yeah pretty much active cryetal farm is the best way to do it. Crystal island in the expeditions gives a lot of exp too. If u can, use cards that say exp while active ljke moon card w2, its a seperate multiplier. Also getting your grind time levelled higher helps a lot, so its worth to play bubo for a while to level it

[pine yacht]

there is no defence for intentional bad design being resolved with money

[red totem]

I could totally see that in construction

[red totem]

preciselt

[cursive forge]

wait actually

[red totem]

I hope Lava isnt trying to get off early

[sacred verge]

i agree, but still worth it to drop 5 $. its such a massive improvement to the game

[cursive forge]

I just thought if blue gems can be turned into green gems

[red totem]

Too much effort to recolor

[sacred verge]

it should be free, i agree. but it isnt so we need to deal with it acordingly ;O

[teal lynx]

Lava gave you a free game and needs to get some Money. Not looking at Companions right now, but 5$ for Autoloot seems reasonable when playing the game for years

[cursive forge]

what would the community think of companion

[sick sentinel]

Many quit lol

[sacred verge]

in my opinion stuff thats basically "needed /must have" should be free in a game

[red totem]

imo milking your general audience for money is the antithesis of f2p games

[cursive forge]

its still gacha but you get more pull/week as f2p

[willow drum]

good thing all that f2p talk was removed from idleon descriptions

[red totem]

yo'ur joking

[willow drum]

i've been banned from here before for talking about it 🙂

[red totem]

thats

thats..

sad

I unironicaly think this is a great game

this could be the survivor ship fallacy

but

[cursive forge]

it is

[pine yacht]

the game's great, it's the dev that's the problem

[cursive forge]

without companion its solid

[red totem]

its art, music, and overall gameplay loop

is top-notch

[cursive forge]

with companion its just a solid game with unwanted mechanics

[golden shell]

No different to ant other game

[red totem]

exactly

I don't think lava WANTS to do this

I think

that he might be scared

of the whales leaving

[pine yacht]

not true, there are plenty of shit game with shit devs

[cursive forge]

tbf

[red totem]

due to the bad press that has fogged over recently

[cursive forge]

thats what every dev scared of

[zinc torrent]

Is it normal to lose all your vman kills on death note after the speedrun?

[red totem]

if you look at the AD placements in reddit

[cursive forge]

yes

[red totem]

half the comments are toxic

[cursive forge]

if you get 700000b kills in speedrun

its too op

[zinc torrent]

Ok ty

[willow drum]

a lot of people still upset over the last 2 big incidents

[red totem]

I hope lava isn't burnt out or doing this out of obligation

[cursive forge]

what is the second one

sorry I played after companion

[willow drum]

uhh the sailing one

[pine yacht]

ooooh the free gold one

[willow drum]

ye

[red totem]

imo, sailing was just unbalanced at launch

[cursive forge]

is it balanced now

[red totem]

nope

[signal osprey]

Anyone who got screwed on the sailing incident deserved it lol

[cursive forge]

general question

[pine yacht]

ye there were people that had their whole sailing reset from having all artifact to having none

[cursive forge]

so its just abusing a bug?

[signal osprey]

Like cmon. Theres no way that wasn't an exploit

[willow drum]

they deserved something, but some of it was overkill

[pine yacht]

this

[red totem]

i think that punishing players when they abuse bugs

[willow drum]

it wasn't a bug

[red totem]

is a recipe for retaliation

[willow drum]

it was predicted and brought up for weeks

[red totem]

elaborate

[willow drum]

just like how chips are predicted

it all follows a formula

[golden shell]

It was his own mistake for not removing the possibility because it was a 1 in a million chance of happening

Sailing

[red totem]

more likely than youd think

[cursive forge]

he probably thought its small enough to neglect

then it happened

lmfao

[red totem]

i have a lucky clover

[pine yacht]

that day we learned "Exploitation in moderation"

[signal osprey]

Its not his fault people were dumb enough to do it though. I agree it should have been addressed by him but thats not an excuse for the people who used it

[golden shell]

That was his words

[willow drum]

yup I clicked a few times and got a lot of gains

it's best not to talk about it though, then people get mad and the mass bans start coming out

[red totem]

honestly, the community is basicly getting evaporated by this kind of reaction

every game ive been in

where a dev

severly punishes the expoiters

begins to have

new exploits and bugs

[pine yacht]

I only tried to get the 777 achieve trough it since it's pure RNG and that was a nice cheezy way to get it

[red totem]

always follow its updates

[willow drum]

I still don't have the 777 achieve :/

[pine yacht]

tho I didnt get it in the end... hell I still dont have it

[signal osprey]

Yall are wild lol. There was never a mass ban wave over the sailing exploit and the community isn't evaporating over it either. This was so long ago and barely anything changed after it

[red totem]

companion update

not that

im talking about the reddit ads

[willow drum]

I knew at least 15 people that stopped playing after

[red totem]

you can see alot of ex-idleoners

[signal osprey]

You said any game where the dev punishes exploiters

[willow drum]

just from the guild lol

[signal osprey]

The hell does that have to do with companions

[red totem]

nothing to do with companions directly

[signal osprey]

Like I agree companions wasn't a good update but your points are kinda all over the place

[red totem]

im not talking about a set update or a time period

[cursive forge]

oo first noble chest

[red totem]

niiice

rather

[nimble palm]

Hope it’s artifact

[red totem]

Im talking about the state of the community

[cursive forge]

nope

[red totem]

oof

[cursive forge]

I would say its still pretty good

[red totem]

yea

[cursive forge]

at least Ive had some good experience

[signal osprey]

People quitting and ban waves are not the same thing

[pine yacht]

been a while since I saw that large of a number for a artifact chance

[red totem]

they are related, one can cause the other

[signal osprey]

But it didn't though

[cursive forge]

question on sailing

[red totem]

ye

[cursive forge]

I would power level the gold boat

[nimble palm]

Been awhile since I got an artifact in sailing

[cursive forge]

and then the remaining boats that dont share mats with each other right?

Im not sure

[red totem]

id say that companion is either considered a meh update or a game-breaking one

never good

[nimble palm]

Always speed

Then loot

Unless you can reach islands you need with 2h

[cursive forge]

thats the neat part

[red totem]

i just think that if the communities opinion of lava sours further

[cursive forge]

I dont know when I want to level loot

[nimble palm]

Also, latter boats speed and loot are never the same mats

[cursive forge]

I know I want speed to min sail

[cursive forge]

I mean like

[nimble palm]

Whenever you have an upgrade button, do it

[nimble palm]

Worked great for me so far

[red totem]

it would most certainly spell doom to a f2p game, as whales might want to spend money elsewhere

[red totem]

im sorry but no

[misty spindle]

is .05 chance for ancient fury normal? Do I go for it?

[pine yacht]

except the last one

[red totem]

go for it

[nimble palm]

Ye, and couple of early ones

[pine yacht]

nope, just first and last

[cursive forge]

I still havent got this artifact how

[nimble palm]

Meaning the common mats, rather than common/rare

There are a few early ones where it’s just commons

[pine yacht]

ah, that yes

[cursive forge]

I guess you refer to the gold bar and mat one right?

[nimble palm]

Ye

[cursive forge]

I see

so I should probably focus on leveling the boat

that uses common mats for speed

[nimble palm]

To be honest, look at what gives boat speed

[pine yacht]

place your bets

[nimble palm]

Outside of sailing

It’s a huge boost once you can reach all islands

Like you can send all 20 boats to one island that you want

Think fury

[red totem]

not artifact\

[red totem]

nop

no way thats an artifact

[fervent brook]

Now we wait

[red totem]

i swear to god tho, if lava rolls back companion to get IOS stuff, and I loose my doots

[cursive forge]

if Im going to gold

[misty spindle]

what

[cursive forge]

just highest island right

but I still need the artifact

[red totem]

my bad fat fingered it

[pine yacht]

yup, the bitch is in fact still only golden

[nimble palm]

I would focus on opening all islands before going for artifacts

[sacred verge]

can the hyper drop obol be rerolled to +5?

droprate

[red totem]

yo

[nimble palm]

Once I opened all, I got most artifacts ancient within a week

[misty spindle]

at what point should I go for rift 31? Dont feel like my DK can do 180 kills

[red totem]

why the hell does your gold stuff have skulls?

[nimble palm]

What’s your dk damage

[cursive forge]

reasonable

but there are some artifacts thats more important

[pine yacht]

u mean these ? Eldrich

[misty spindle]

around 20mil

[red totem]

yeah? how tho

[red totem]

wdym eldritch

[tacit tulip]

They're an unlock from the rift in w4

[red totem]

is this part of gamibg?

[tacit tulip]

Rift 31

[pine yacht]

rift 31

[tacit tulip]

It unlocks a third tier of artifact to unlock

[red totem]

should i do rift

i have a bubo with 20m max

[agile obsidian]

yes

[nimble palm]

Ye, I made that mistake with fury. Had 3 boats on it instead of progressing. 2 months couldn’t get. Then refocused on unlocking all. Got ancient 2 weeks after

[nimble palm]

Unlocked all meals? Upgraded your weapon? Equipped bullets and golden food and damage cards?

[cursive forge]

alr good I asked

Ill put all my boats on highest min time island for gold bars

[red totem]

I actively play only on thing

one

Sailing 😎

[nimble palm]

Perfect Strat

In my opinion

[pine yacht]

Same...

[misty spindle]

without optimisation I have around 20mil with Id say maybe 30 at max, I dont have all the meals either

[cursive forge]

tbh thats what I have been doing haha

some of my boats I just dont have the mats to upgrade

Ill put gold one to unlock cloud

[nimble palm]

Meals boost your damage by a lot especially new ones. I spent a day unlocking all and my damage later went up 5x

Also, try to get high orb book

[misty spindle]

I cant unlock them yet, my breeding is dogshit

[nimble palm]

How many slots you have unlocked for fighting?

[misty spindle]

Also what is the point of going for all islands instead of artifacts when I cant get to them in reasonable times

[misty spindle]

4, I just need to unlock monolith I have nutto

[nimble palm]

Oh that’s good. Try getting splicer v2 for w2 pets chance. Also you should be able to unlock 5 without mono

[misty spindle]

I tried, Ive got to 44 without complete optimasiton in arena

still need to get lucky for a good nutto and bone pet

Also I have my BB zow and chow while getting W2 DNA

[nimble palm]

Get higher ratity eggs

I think, but maybe wrong, those give higher chance for more power

Along with breeding lv

[misty spindle]

not always, popped some bronze ones and gave me 4 times less then my max

[willow drum]

just think of it like shovel in gaming

it's a range

[nimble palm]

To be honest, all you need is 10k+

[green eagle]

does IE track the "secret" mobs for super chow? i think i'm at 40m on the lone nutto, but not exactly sure

[nimble palm]

And you can unlock everything with 5 pets

[misty spindle]

my max is still around 8k unfortunetly

I think Im gonna spam W4 collo for eggs, then spam for xp

I have around 50 tickets

[willow drum]

I don't think you need 10k+

as long as you have the strategy it doesn't matter much

[misty spindle]

then I might just bust some candy for W2 DNA

[willow drum]

dna helps to increase the minimum power a bit

[misty spindle]

nah Im fine with 8k its just that I dont have monolith yet

[nimble palm]

Probably. It’s just going to take a very long time. I think with 20k rattler it took me 5 hours on last boss

[misty spindle]

wow

[midnight pebble]

todays boss spoils took about 150kills for this one 😒 but 5/10 now for ~415 nightmare runs total so far - (9 neck drops and ~35 obols - been trashing the extras )

[willow drum]

I only have 2 neck drops :/ 3 or 4 wings atm I think

[fresh sorrel]

are the prayer stats correct? I've claimed 3 50% offerings, along with a few 25% 1% and whatever other ones show up but still haven't managed to get the blue bear

I think im just unlucky

[pine yacht]

I have 0 wings, obols and necks

[tall horizon]

IE doesnt but IT does

[midnight pebble]

im 20.21x drop with everything

[willow drum]

sounds pretty unlucky

[fresh sorrel]

damn

[noble hound]

Whats the best way to increase kills per hour? I want to candy W3 and W4 for eclipse skulls on my ES. But im only getting about 2.5m/hr kills fully juiced out with dmg and mob respawn. 760B dmg and 11k multikill at x23

[fresh sorrel]

I really want to save up to the 100% chance offering but I've claimed enough 50% and 25% that surely the next one would be successful

[willow drum]

respawn rate or the rings from gemshop

[willow drum]

whats your chip setup

[sick sentinel]

the usual play is to spam the left side unless you get a 100%

[fresh sorrel]

ahhh ok, so people usually do go for 100% thx

[sick sentinel]

just since its guarenteed, you could still gamble it and maybe get it on a low chance tho

[willow drum]

everything is 50/50 you either get it or you don't

[red totem]

screenshots were invented in 1664

1663

[willow drum]

if you have respawn chips you should drop one of the card doublers and the MK chip

[red totem]

insane tho

[willow drum]

midnight stopwatches are good as well

and the respawn keychains

[noble hound]

Swapping those chips actually lost me 200k/hr. 3.2m to 3m

[willow drum]

which card are you doubling?

[misty spindle]

when swapping skulls does my charge go to 0?

[noble hound]

I have the keychains but not rings. Using W3 bonus and an all stat ring

[fresh sorrel]

Im still new to W5 so just wanna confirm, once I get a plant in gaming to its final 4th stage I can just start turning that plant type into bits right? no point in letting it sit there?

[willow drum]

might be hitting a breakpoint for damage

running nobi?

[noble hound]

I have doot, but also nobi as a wnd god with the ES skill

2nd*

Only at 700B dmg

[fresh sorrel]

once I get a plant to its 4th/final stage I'm good to harvest it or is there some reason I should keep it around?

[willow drum]

oh I didn't realize you're using ES

[sick sentinel]

do you have all plants unlocked?

[fresh sorrel]

no, I just got the mushroom to its 4th stage and working on bonzai, but not sure if I'm good to harvest my mushroom at 4th stage or not

[noble hound]

Does Mr massacre really make that big of a difference in alchemy? Mine is only lvl 150

[sick sentinel]

imo claim as often as you can until you get chemical

then the plant stages are easy

[fresh sorrel]

ah ok, I assume chemical is the 3rd option in gaming that unlocks at lvl 20? thx!

[sick sentinel]

chemical is the last plant, i think you may be thinking of superbit

[fresh sorrel]

ohhh chemical is a plant I assumed by its name it was one of the side tabs like "Fertilizer" or "mutation"

[sick sentinel]

ah i gotcha

claim as often as you can so you have more rolls to new plants

[fresh sorrel]

will do, you said chemical makes plant stages easy, do all of the plants have some sort of bonus?

[sick sentinel]

yeah, if you go to the mutations tab you can click on each plant to see what their bonus is in the bottom text

can also spoil yourself on the wiki gaming page if you'd like

[fresh sorrel]

yea I'll prob check it out, thx!

[green eagle]

is that saying i haven't "finished" yet? that the card has just rounded up to 100m?

[sick sentinel]

idk thats funky

whats your super chow count in the tooltip

[balmy kiln]

Does chow work for w5 mobs?

[sick sentinel]

yes

[balmy kiln]

Thx!

[tall horizon]

yup, rounding

[green eagle]

annoying. used a candy on each, should fix itself then

[sick sentinel]

i meant in game haha

but looks like you got it done

[green eagle]

ah sorry lol

[sick sentinel]

nah i didnt specify enough

[green eagle]

yeah now i'm up to 63 super chows

just need to finish 5 w5 mobs that i put off for last anyways

then i guess i'll try to work on 2/3 of my remaining secret mobs

[hasty veldt]

Dis good armour for world five?

[green eagle]

it works

[sick sentinel]

i said fuck that, may do the solo nutto but the others ima skip

[green eagle]

i just finished lone nutto haha, took a lot of candy at 370k/hr

[untold lintel]

how is ur dmg so low but equiptment so high?!

[sick sentinel]

not attempting doot mush and then i guess my only other one is boops

[hasty veldt]

No idea

Skipped a lot I guess

[green eagle]

that equipment is w3 equip, not high at all lol

[sick sentinel]

their armor is low af

[untold lintel]

way higher than mine and im at like 100-120m dmg

i think that means im just behind in equiptment

[green eagle]

you probably spent time on alchemy, armor hardly translates to dmg until you have the best armor available

[untold lintel]

fair enough

i should probably make chiz set

cause i dont care about defense% i need dmg and mastery

[green eagle]

there is a picture somewhere that answers the question of "does this armor work" but i cbf to find it

[midnight pebble]

finished off the remaining keys and got another neck

[green eagle]

you'd be much much better off making w4 armor to then end up making w5 armor than making chiz

[untold lintel]

true, i havent crafted anything out of the t4 tab yet

[nimble palm]

Scarf can use an upgrade

[midnight pebble]

can do chiz helm and lustre armor for other pieces

[nimble palm]

Lustre is surprisingly cheap

[green eagle]

chiz is like a bandaid, it is cheap and quick to make, but even first set of w4 armor will increase your dmg most likely because the higher base stats. the only one that doesn't ring true for is chiz helm, but it is beaten by diabolical helm easily because of aforementioned higher base stats and an extra slot.

[midnight pebble]

^luster armor might be easier also since it doesnt need salts depending on your salt production

[signal osprey]

Amarok 🗿

[nimble palm]

No better armour

[untold lintel]

ill prob do chiz helm, and lustre everything else

[nimble palm]

When did spears stop working for archers?

[untold lintel]

that seems still easy for me

[green eagle]

a long time ago

they still "work" but they no longer do aoe dmg on classes other than warrior

[rapid locust]

Is there a way to link to two gods at once? I just unlocked the bear

[green eagle]

he patched that a while ago

[nimble palm]

Ye that’s what I noticed

Didn’t know it was patched

My archers all had w1 spears till now

[green eagle]

that's why aura bubo uses fisticuffs

instead of spear now

not to mention the ability to get higher stats on it

[nimble palm]

Fisticuffs?

[green eagle]

think about it

[sinful aurora]

Only ES can do that. Unless you have doot.

[green eagle]

i need to waste time on an archer again with the new bribe to see if i can craft another "perfect" stingers

[nimble palm]

What does it do on bubo?

[green eagle]

it forces you to go into melee range, which is ideal for spreading aura

[rapid locust]

I only have 25 points in the polytheism, the bear only gives me the unlink option 😦

[nimble palm]

Oh, is that how people get 300k+ progress?

[green eagle]

one of many reasons why, yes

[nimble palm]

I’m at 200k, but cranium not maxed yet

[green eagle]

i'm at just above 400k

[sinful aurora]

Polytheism level is what decides which is your 2nd link. Dont just put all your points, the last number is important.

[paper sail]

The "unlink" option will show up on ANY god you click on, regardless of which you are actually linked to.

[nimble palm]

Can you show me your setup?

[untold lintel]

i havent done CC in like weeks, was at about 7 hours worth of time each CC, gonna see what its at now

[paper sail]

Weeks? I wish I could go that long

I have to fill liquids twice a day

[rapid locust]

man now I have more questions then before lol

[green eagle]

i'm not on my bubo atm, but the setup is literally boxing gloves, w/e armor is your best, then level up roadkill, max book Cranium and tent to make the most out of your time with it.

on aura bubo you don't focus on your poison gas anymore, but on aura dmg, fart ghost, and running around on auto. you DO need points in poison gas, however, to do dmg with fart ghost

[sinful aurora]

If the level ends with 0, you're linked to snek, 1 is arctis, 2 is nobisect, 3 harriep, etc.

[paper sail]

^with the exception that 0 points invested doesn't link to Snake. Gotta be 10, 20, 30, etc.

[green eagle]

darn chems taking over again

[rapid locust]

Sorry I got assulted by a toddler, how do you know if you're linked to two? is the snake always assumed to be linked?

[hallow wing]

This explains a little bit of it

[lavish cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/tantrum-baby-toddler-meltdown-crying-gif-13770941

i'm closing in on the number i need to max myriad >.<

[rapid locust]

ok so the ending is what determines the second god, so do you link to the first god you want then change the poly number to auto link to the second?

[lavish cloak]

i've been putting it off forever

[rapid locust]

oh i see

sorry i got like 3 hours of sleep lol

[glossy gate]

when can i actually use candy?

[rapid locust]

or on your mman you've been ignoring after you stuck them in a lab tube

[glossy gate]

who is mman

maestro?

[rapid locust]

yeah

[nimble palm]

What’s aura and aura dmg? That’s two different presets?

[paper sail]

No point going over 100%, yeah?

Or maybe even 88.5% if they just add together

[uncut bear]

Is this relevant when i got King doot?

[rapid locust]

So if you keep your SB in the sailing area, do you get extra sailing xp? the player screen says hes doing nothing

[gentle furnace]

isnt bubble and golden hampter is 2 different proc

[hallow wing]

No, but the talent does give +% div points

[lavish cloak]

i have the first 2 stamps and the new bribes. where do i go from here?

[grizzled elk]

3rd stamp is drop rate, I got that one before I got the second one lol

[young burrow]

with king doot you have to link to all the gods or what should i do to be sure that all are active?

[prisma furnace]

Gotta love finally having that Choc chip. Now I can get 2k+ power statues an hour

[green eagle]

you should already be there by far, considering the sailing artifacts that give you bonus boxes

[prisma furnace]

Time to get those last power statues for the rest of the chars

[hallow wing]

Damn 2k an HOUR?? Took me like a week of leaving my phone on overnight to get that 20k

[paper sail]

2k per hour still low too :c

[green eagle]

aura is the talent that puts auras under your feet on the ground that heal you and deal dmg. aura bubo is the name of the build, aura dmg is the DAMAGE of the aura talent

[hallow wing]

Damn I gotta be doing something wrong then, not sure what it is though

[nimble palm]

Oh, I didn’t understand what you meant. Though it was two different presets

[prisma furnace]

The magic of having Choc chip

Just got it today

[hallow wing]

Yeah I have choc chip too but I still don't get numbers like that

What's ur crystal chance?

[prisma furnace]

1/35

[hallow wing]

Ah, hm idk how I can get mine much higher aside from getting the two doubler chips

I might try and grind 4 star poop and genie then, and then focus my efforts into rift for a bit

[amber dagger]

Is upgrading sprinkler even worth it fr?

[prisma furnace]

Doubler chips help a lot, had those before getting choc

[hallow wing]

Yeah, that'd probably do it, I got 1/71 crystal chance rn

[nimble palm]

Trying out your setup right now with stingers

[green eagle]

being in melee range you spread the aura much more effectively

[nimble palm]

Let’s see if I can get above 200k

[balmy kiln]

Do plants grow indefinitely in gaming? Or they have a cap?

[green eagle]

t7 is the current cap on plant growth

though if you're asking that you are far from worrying about it

lol

[balmy kiln]

Gotcha, just wondering If I should go there as often as possible or 2 or 3 times a day

[paper sail]

T7s take months to grow, no sweat lol

[nimble palm]

250k just by switching weapons. My last max was 200k

Thx

[upbeat trout]

so i finally got and it double my dmg on bubo

[dreamy rapids]

Awsome

[rapid shale]

do you start getting less star talent points ar a cetain level?

[dreamy rapids]

Bro how?

[rapid python]

if 8-9 characters are stashed in div and lab, who is typically used to push in w5?

[paper sail]

Lots of golden food boosts

[dreamy rapids]

What is your stamp level?

[paper sail]

104% from Golden Apple stamp, 245+ warrior talent, 100% from sigil, 15% from Efaunt turban, ~33% from Shaman family bonus

[rapid shale]

w5 is a very slow push. I cycle characters out to level them. Plus once you get mantra style for div it gets easier to level everyoe

[green eagle]

yep no problem. don't forget to keep cranking out roadkill bubble levels, but those aren't as important as other atom bubbles, get it higher until you feel comfortable and come back to it later

[green eagle]

as scoli said, t7 takes in game months to grow once you are even to the point of unlocking them. they are a superbit that you unlock, along with t5 and t6

right now you can grow up to tier 4

[dreamy rapids]

There really needs to be a way to increase evolution chance

5000 times rarer than regular one

Mine sits on 20%

[paper sail]

You act like this doesn't give 0.1% chance every 100 levels

[dreamy rapids]

0.004% to get tier 7

Yeah there needs to be a better way

And we still don't talk about tier 8

[paper sail]

Maybe whatever the last gaming tab is will clean up some issues

[molten cairn]

it's impactful

[potent gust]

I'm really upgrading my game these days.

My ES went from 7M to 35M, my kitchen speed went from 200k to 1.5M, my Vman, leveling up with billions of exp. I see some results

[nimble palm]

Thanks. I’m working on road kill and Larry since I can consistently get 20-30k atoms a day. Still lacking last fury artifact to max skills too

[hallow wing]

That reminds me, I still need to get subs and followers over with, I think I'm done with cloud? But Where's the best place to grind for the other 2 and what class?

[sacred verge]

how often does crystal island reset?

[rapid shale]

dedotated rams and killing bosses worked for cloudsound followers for me

also helps to have higher crystal spawn rate

oh dsone with cloud

rats and poops then

[fading cape]

earlier worlds. I did rats for yellow one

[paper sail]

Rats give a lot of the Yellow subs. You can pick those up while collecting 5* Poop card and the Rat vial. If you're finished with both of those, I believe world3 drops all 3 types.

[prisma moss]

does siege breaker require speed pots to do actual damage?

[orchid ferry]

How do you guys farm Oceanman Statues for onyx?

[paper sail]

Vman on whichever w2 catching bug you don't have 5* card for

[orchid ferry]

bold of you to assume i have any 5* lol

[paper sail]

If all 4 are maxed, might as well do Fruitflies to help toward a FMJ level

They all have the same rate for statues, so doesn't matter

[rapid python]

does divinity reset on the guild reset weekly timer?

[sacred verge]

chopping speed have a cap?

[hallow wing]

Turns out I'm not done with clouds so that's helpful, thanks! Also what class then? DK or ES?

[paper sail]

62/min

[orchid ferry]

any reason why my ES feels so much better than DK for statues farming?

[sacred verge]

ur DK missing alot of stuff then

[orchid ferry]

i feel like his respawn rate is soooo much better

[paper sail]

You're doing something very, very wrong on DK lol

[orchid ferry]

like?

cause all the crystal related stuff are the same

[sacred verge]

everything more or less

orb, crystal chance

[orchid ferry]

so its only talents/skill order?

[sacred verge]

max orb

[orchid ferry]

it is

[sacred verge]

keep it under 270 tho

[naive shard]

Is dk still better even if you don’t have chocolate chip?

[orchid ferry]

its 263 i think

[paper sail]

267

[paper sail]

Better than ES for spawning crystals, yes.

[twin token]

Es is the fastest chiz farmer right

Bc of teleport and meteor

[tacit tulip]

Choco is effectively a 4x bonus to crystals, not having it doesn't change the ratios for each class

[paper sail]

ES is like D tier at spawning crystals Wormhole enemies cannot spawn crystals.
Bubo spawns the most, but is focused on getting Money from them.
DK spawns the second most, and gets a shitload of loot.
Vman spawns the third most, gets decent loot. SB probably about the same level here.
ES spawns the fourth most, no bonus to loot.
BB and BM are the worst all around.

[twin token]

Is that supposed to be to me?

[orchid ferry]

thats fine?

[twin token]

What mob are u farming

[orchid ferry]

anything really

im farming statues

so beans, pots, worms,

[twin token]

U can probably take out points from str summoner the str skilling talent and kpk and put them into tab 4 slash and daggerang

[twin token]

Oh clammies are better for dk

[orchid ferry]

thats the only world i dont need to farm tho lol

[twin token]

U alr have 20k of w4 statues?

[orchid ferry]

yep

[twin token]

Oh ok nice then

But yeah more atk speed, Slash level, and dagger level would give u more statues

You most likely don't need the extra damage from those talents so probs worth to respec

It looks like u have ancient fury so I assume u do a lot of dmg

[orchid ferry]

i think my cystal chance is kinda bad too

[twin token]

As long as u have chocolate chip you'll be fine

[orchid ferry]

1 in 45
I dont have most doubler chips and im probably missing something else

[prisma drift]

Post office

[twin token]

Stamp shrine post office and cards (obv) are where u can improve

[orchid ferry]

true its 200/400

[prisma drift]

I’m only 1/28

[orchid ferry]

id need to unlock 5* cards

and farm them lol

[twin token]

Oh u alr have card doubkers?

Those are the only ones that improve crystal chance

[cursive forge]

Im thinking of losing some divinity exp

but get divinity points by using all vitality at lv25

I want to get goat god to start labbing

[paper sail]

Points >>> Exp

[twin token]

Yh go for what gives most points

Xp won't matter for a little while

[green eagle]

i mean why wouldn't you use speed pots on your characters anyways? MS directly affects your kills/hr as well. then going super fast is a plus

[cursive forge]

cause the next upgrade is lv40?

is like 2 months of div

[twin token]

No because you won't rlly need xp untill you get to an npc in w5 that gives stamps depending on div level

[cursive forge]

oh that one

what level does it need

oh 25

nvm

ye Im only at 24

[paper sail]

80 lol

[prisma vigil]

huh.... first time I get this and the game decided I could use another :p

[twin token]

50 for Multitool tho

80 is just red pearls and gaming/sailing candy

[paper sail]

Yeah

[sacred verge]

these base stat or just a flat increase?

probably flat increase as it dosent state "base"

[fierce oracle]

its base

[sacred verge]

sweet

thats op

[sand summit]

not really op but definitely worth leveling

[sacred verge]

hitting an easy 400 base stat on something is pretty nice

[sand summit]

easy?

well maybe im just bad then

[sacred verge]

yeah 400 was fiarly easy

fairly

[sand summit]

nvm im mixing them up with the weaker ones

looks similar too you see

[rapid python]

is there a way to see which divinity bonuses are applying? id like to see what doot is doing when i dont have all gods unlocked

[paper sail]

Not unless you still have a character with level 1 divinity

[misty spindle]

6 printers feel so good

[gloomy hazel]

Why's that?

[sacred verge]

if not it will overlap

[gloomy hazel]

Ah, makes sense

[sacred verge]

@paper sail may i ask something?

[paper sail]

Sup

[sacred verge]

why is it that we dont want to use cannister for bubo?

whats the reasoning for it not being on the bar

[paper sail]

Like any other skill, it causes inefficiencies in using other skills. You can watch and see the border of when an attack is chosen and see the internal cooldown before it casts. During that time, you can't get off any Raise Deads

[lavish cloak]

sucks up a lot of skill rotation

[sacred verge]

alright i see, thats what i suspected but i just had to make sure

[paper sail]

The dice talent is super guilty of it, haha

[sacred verge]

yeah, lol

took some time before i realized it when i was new

[paper sail]

A lot of people forget about it since it has been on bar2 or whatever since world1 days

[sacred verge]

used to have it on every char

yea

[paper sail]

I still keep a few dice stashed, just in case he adds a use for them later like he did with lucky lads

[sacred verge]

yeah

i got one stashed

hopefully it will be enough

[paper sail]

My poor chef just has a myriad of shit still in his inventory

Alongside the lab Bubo that just got changed to ES, lol

[pine yacht]

I've loong filtered LL

[paper sail]

Same. Had to unfilter to get more for divine scarves, then back on the filter list they went

Literally first thing on the filter 🤣

[nimble yarrow]

At what point is it no longer worth to use Skilling equipment and to just use your normal gear that gives %stats?

Is there a stat breakpoint or you just have to test it as you go?

[paper sail]

Kinda test as you go. The lowest the eff%, the easier it is to replace. Also depends on the skill - Choppin for me went first, then mining. Catching gear still wins over Magma for me

[opaque sun]

Magma gets better than skill gears only for mining and chopping

And usually happens around the time when you progress enough that you can make magma gears

[coral goblet]

Divine scarf or the dungeon skill eff neck for prints?

[paper sail]

Is that a real question...?

[lavish cloak]

divine scarf encompasses skill afk, so divine scarf is legitimately so big an upgrade you throw away your dungeon skill eff

[paper sail]

No contest, outside of the required level to wear it.

[lavish cloak]

yes, assuming at least level 425, no question no contest

[tacit tulip]

That reminds me, how does divine compare to purple depth neck for fish 4/8/12?

[paper sail]

Divine still won for me

[lavish cloak]

i need the purple depth neck to concentratedly farm kraken cards

[tacit tulip]

So probably same for prints then

[tall horizon]

Scarf was better on kraken for me, but sklullfish for bloaches. (the numbers were so close that it was really kind of irrelevant.)

[paper sail]

The new rings, however

[lavish cloak]

new rings?

[tall horizon]

From omar quest

[lavish cloak]

oh yeah, new fishing rings

[tacit tulip]

The bottle quest rings give depth

[lavish cloak]

i need to play with those still

[paper sail]

I only tested appropriate color + serrated rex. There's a chance a combo of those rings works better

[lavish cloak]

the combo is what i haven't played with yet

[paper sail]

They have actual fishing power on them so could work out

[high owl]

alright, how do I get mega big damage? Bigger than this? I have eldritch Fury and nearly maxed dmg talents and pretty much the best equip. me want bigger damage. give me more number. I want to 1-shot nightmare kruk.

[paper sail]

Alchemy, stamps, meals

[high owl]

I'm limited by artifacts for meals. almost everything is at level 40 and can't go higher currently

[lavish cloak]

deathnote billion kills from rift bonus

[high owl]

ooooo I forgor about that one

sitting at 96 greenstacks. Working towards more currently

[paper sail]

Greenstacks don't give that much damage honestly

[high owl]

it stacks up and not very difficult or time consuming to get, so I'm working towards that till it becomes inconvenient to get more

also, I have more plunder than that.

there, fixy likes

[paper sail]

You're just lacking a ton of stats honestly. A lot of damage comes just from stats

[high owl]

alright. My alchemy is increasing based on how many atoms I can use to upgrade main stat but there are so many bubs I need ot push

I guess I'm doing what I can at the moment

[paper sail]

bubble 25 and crystal steak are both gargantuan damage from stats

[high owl]

ouchie. I can't upgrade this guy yet because I haven't reached that island yet. seriously lacking in the sailing department. It's only 1 island away maybe I should just go ahead and push for that one

I also forgor about crystal steak

[paper sail]

I nearly tripled my damage with the loot from the very first boat that brought back the material lol

[high owl]

damn. alright I'll put a boat on that island and get started

I got like 4 levels from discount tag without reaching the island but it's not high enough level to get the NBLB blessing

[paper sail]

But yeah, damage is mostly a byproduct of you doing other things 🤷 Just kinda happens

[high owl]

I was just hoping there would be an easy way to spike my damage super high. currently my SB is sitting at way more damage than my ES, which is strange

[paper sail]

That's fairly normal. My SB is ~3x damage of the ES

[high owl]

sheeesh. I just remember my ES having the most damage out of anybody for the longest time and it switched over to my SB dominating within the past few weeks

[paper sail]

Move speed scaling is stronk

[high owl]

yeah I figured that was the reason

[paper sail]

Almost time to give my Vman another run at N.Kruk Haven't tried sine the original task to unlock the scarf and I'm 15x higher damage now

[high owl]

I started playing a few weeks before my friend and brother and my damage is about 250x higher than theirs. I have a problem, I'm obsessed with this damn game

what's your vman dmg at?

[paper sail]

575b in very unoptimised crystal farming setup

[high owl]

dayum

my vman just reached 1.5B

[paper sail]

That's still in skill afk star signs, obols, yada

[high owl]

so probably a lot higher

[paper sail]

I could probably hit 750-800b optimized

[high owl]

sheeeesh that's awesome

I want to push to Rift 46 for the 5 star cards, but I can't beat rift 42. not enough dmg on any characters

cries in low damage

[paper sail]

Just keep working on.. everything 👍

[high owl]

lol, that's the plan. thank for the help homie

[uncut bear]

Why was my game updated?

Just now?

I dunno. Few minutes ago

[potent lily]

How do i get the d bagpack

I know

Im w5

[paper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/pop-gif-26588103

[potent lily]

Got this is this good?

Lvl 71

Do i go lvl up my fishing for omar or do i farm 1m from every mob on my bb?

[paper sail]

Seems like you stoned that axe with w4 stones maybe

[pine yacht]

does nobi affect mob samples ?

[potent lily]

W5

[paper sail]

That math doesn't add up.

Or, oh, base w5 stones not boss stones lol

My bad

[potent lily]

Yea lol

Dont have dmg for the boss

I like my char

[paper sail]

I'm happy you're happy

[green eagle]

i finally got something from a random event at least, would've prefered the obol but something is nice

[pine yacht]

around what dmg should one be looking at for rift 46 ?

[potent lily]

He ia flying

[little lynx]

If u get doot before w5 and make it to w5, do u unlock all the gods passives? Or do u still have to unlock 1 by 1?

[eager sedge]

u have the bonuses still need to unlock em to increase bonuses

[stoic crow]

The passives are based on div level, so you need to level up to get all the passives

[little lynx]

Ty

[terse furnace]

Is Seasalt isle AFK XP bugged in the afk info menu?

[paper sail]

Fishing in general isn't accurate on the AFK Info screen

[terse furnace]

Yeah but the differences are HUGE on seasalt, could just be a matter of scale tho ig

like 6m vs 900k

[paper sail]

Correct. It's the same issue regardless

[terse furnace]

kk ty

[paper sail]

32 kills later: wing drop Full auto is so much nicer.

[lavish cloak]

gratz on the w4 trophy. level 80 cooking and breeding. you monster.

[paper sail]

Eh?

[paper sail]

Certainly don't have level 80 cooking or breeding

[lavish cloak]

oh, apparently i have old information on what the w4 trophy requires of you

[paper sail]

Although that trophy was on my checklist before ballooning others to 50 so maybe one day we'll get 80

Click and hold balloons now should make 50s a breeze

[rapid python]

I have doot, and just unlocked bear. I switched to a few people, then switched to my bubo in lab, expecting to see people lit up to use as links, but they all have red x's still. Am I misunderstanding how this works, or did i miss a step

[sick sentinel]

Did u try cloudsaving maybe?

[rapid python]

i did

[paper sail]

Are all of your characters level 2 divinity skill?

[sick sentinel]

Thats likely it

[rapid python]

ya, lvl 4 or 5

or maybe the bubo is 1

let me check

ty guys

[paper sail]

Mhm

If the character you're on is still 1, it disables Doot on everyone else lol. So get them all to 2 and you're golden

[prisma beacon]

How much is a good amount of plunderous kills?

[sick sentinel]

10k, 50k, 100k were goals i went for

I dont know breakpoints for best benefit tho

[willow drum]

10k or 100k are decent stopping points depends on how much you want

[lavish cloak]

powers of 10 or halfways are logical conclusions

[sick sentinel]

Im not much of a math person so i follow others advice

[pearl cedar]

30% of a power of 10 gives 50% of total bonus from power of 10

Well like 31.7% or something

[torn spade]

yeah 31.6 something %, but 30% is close enough

[sacred verge]

for those wo dont get it, 33k kills would give about 50% of the benefit of 100k kills

so going from 10k to 100k pluder kills the first 20k will bring alot more value than the last 70k

the first 20 extra, (30k total)

[sick sentinel]

I was still that person lol

[sacred verge]

lol

its not super easy, but its not that hard when you understand the way its calculated

for those interested you could just test it on a fairly simple calculator and see what gives what

how many secs of CC should a decent bubo get at wurms?

[next locust]

If you get sub 180k without choco you're doing something wrong. Around 230k with choco, but can't remember exactly cause I rarely switch cause I only do cranium like once a day nowadays. That's without high roadkill so if you're late game you should be getting more.

Of course depends on what your definition of decent is, but that is for a good talent bar, w5 max talent levels and one ticking wurms

[sacred verge]

alright, im doing like 330k without setting up properly so iguess its alright then