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[livid roost]

Exactly

[true obsidian]

should be 1 more posion or party?

[opaque sun]

mages “specialized skill exp” talent works on div exp

But else is just a matter of finding things that says “div exp”

[green eagle]

yeah if you have t6 plants you're doing well. have you actually unlocked the 300m super bit already? cuz otherwise you're waiting for nothing

[livid roost]

Maybe party ? 5 poisons is a lot i think

[green eagle]

5 poisons will increase your dps much more than another party imo

[cerulean hemlock]

Party ofc (for ratatat XD)

[livid roost]

I m not an expert on TD

[cerulean hemlock]

I mean, party makes attack speed increase

[opaque sun]

Id say party than trying to fit in a half-assed poison in a bad position

[true obsidian]

actually not that bad position

[livid roost]

When next update ? So i can finnaly finish my TD battles . I can’t because of lags

[green eagle]

but it isn't going to get significantly faster than the dps added form another poison cloud. even if the other party was just 3x dmg i think it is still less than another poison added in

[fervent brook]

got rucksack maxed.

[opaque sun]

but half assed as in lower levels than other poisons

While party is cheaper and still good at low upgrade levels

[livid roost]

So the question is : x1,2 dmg or +45%

[true obsidian]

yeah...i think i do both

[green eagle]

i guess. i would've sold the first kraken and put a poison there, then added party where he added the party anyways

[true obsidian]

i affraid if i sold 1 kraken, i can't reach lv 130 :<

[green eagle]

or even the middle kraken. the last kraken isn't even helping atm based on the picture

[true obsidian]

i have no ball

[livid roost]

I have your balls

[opaque sun]

and poison too far from the kill zone half-asses not shooting

[livid roost]

Want them?

🙈

[opaque sun]

Every second a poison idles, its wasted dps essentially

[green eagle]

yep

[mighty harbor]

Yeah I can get around 1B green bits after collecting for awhile
So to increase the growth cycle do I just leave it absent for (a few months?)

[true obsidian]

guess i need to upgrade tower more...feeling weak

[autumn wasp]

im just curious, are you able to do frosty 120 with that?

[true obsidian]

well...

i answer is, i dunno

[autumn wasp]

u can def do gorefest 120

cuz i just did it with less

[green eagle]

you didn't get to 130 goblin? 😦

[true obsidian]

i'm trying now

my tower lv is so low

:<

[green eagle]

i had lower levels than you when i did it, you should be fine

[fading cape]

It's only 120 gobline, btw

I thought it was 130 and put it off, and then earlier this week I did it and got the prayer at 120. Was pleasenty surprised

[true obsidian]

took me 15mins to get from 1 -> 130... :<

[umbral tapir]

Does "Charred Skull" affect Death Note?

[sick sentinel]

Its not a huge amount but it does

[true obsidian]

rip...

[umbral tapir]

Yeah, I think I need to respec and lose the talent though. Need to get my orb to 267 :/

[true obsidian]

can anyone get over 140 goblin?

[umbral tapir]

Maxed out my orb ...263 g'damnit

[surreal oxide]

my shovel is lvl 156 but been stuck at 9.8k multiplier for over 6 weeks now. any tips?

[teal lynx]

Sacrifice your first born to Lava
Jokes aside you just need to click the Shovel and pray you get a good nugget

The Shovel usually gives low value nuggets, but sometimes u get lucky and get a good nugget. After months I went from 10k to 250k - no skill involved just luck

[surreal oxide]

dam lol

wt lvl was your shovel for the 250k

[teal lynx]

170

[surreal oxide]

god dam

[teal lynx]

Haven't upgraded it since

[surreal oxide]

should i be saving up for the small rat or just keep dumping it into shovel

[manic moat]

your shovel is a good level, it's all rng from here on out, just click on it every hour

[teal lynx]

Shovel isn't really worth

[surreal oxide]

i see ok

[teal lynx]

You can check your IE for your Max Nugget Value. Mine is 361k with lvl 170. You could technically see how good/bad it scales

[surreal oxide]

oooh

[umbral tapir]

😦

IE says Nugget range: 171-272K

Nugget currently at 4k

[surreal oxide]

my IE says 208 - 331 lol

im at 10k

[teal lynx]

Is there a K behind your 331?

[surreal oxide]

yea

[teal lynx]

That means 331000

K = Thousand

[surreal oxide]

ye my bad left it out by accident

[teal lynx]

Oh all good then

[cerulean hemlock]

Tell them to behave!

[teal lynx]

So 14 more levels on Shovel would be max nugget increase of 30k. You are realistically not getting the max value so maybe 500 - 2000 increase. Which isn't alot if we are talking 150k+ (Math is probably not correct lol)

[surreal oxide]

hmmm

[cerulean hemlock]

Shovel increases are trash, essentially

[potent lily]

We need 2 more any one wanna help?

[manic moat]

Where are you?

[potent lily]

Demon 13

We need 1 more

[foggy briar]

where?

[potent lily]

Demon 13

[safe tangle]

Omw

[fervent brook]

Thanks I got it too

[potent lily]

Ty for the help 🙂

[foggy briar]

ty

[green eagle]

The difference between those 4 levels isn’t something to fret about. Just a few more levels in your DK and you should have it

[umbral tapir]

I'm actually maxed at it sadly. Need to book symbols and then find 60 more points lol. But yeah, it's a 15 second difference, which is three monster wipes, compared to the 45+ seconds of downtime before.

Currently running an hour of active time and screenshotted how many statues I had too see the increase.

Thanks all!

[green eagle]

You should see a massive swing in the difference. Your DR is still a tad “low” compared to others, but you should see that you’ll finish in 2 days of work what you did in the last two weeks lol

[true obsidian]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[true obsidian]

nope

[teal lynx]

That damn Portal in NM Kattle Bossfight. I just clicked it while the Boss was at 40% HP

[true obsidian]

turn off

[formal minnow]

Well, it's official, I finally resampled, and I have to start being active on my bubo instead of just having him go crazy in lab with goat. I am out of water to do the bubbles I wanna do

[keen moon]

what is the best place to farm power statues?

[formal minnow]

Dk on beans

[keen moon]

crystals?

[formal minnow]

Yep

[glossy trench]

what does the green m mean at the bottom of my storage chest?

[true obsidian]

basicly every statues in the game except those from w3

[true obsidian]

green stack, 1 green = 1 item reach 10M

[glossy trench]

does it do anything?

[true obsidian]

yes

[tacit tulip]

People see big number going bigger and think "great" but it's good to remember that going from a 150k nugget to a 300k one is the same as...one level in snail

[echo remnant]

Hey, can anyone tell me if upgrading speed on a sailing boat will also allow it to remove fog/discover far away islands more quickly? Or is that solely bound to cloud discovery rate?

[tacit tulip]

It will

[glossy trench]

what does it do?

[tacit tulip]

there's no min speed on cloud discovery so doubling your speed doubles your discover rate as you do double laps

[cerulean hemlock]

Ikr.. My RNG is below avg though

[true obsidian]

uhm...you go to the island faster also mean you discover faster?

[green eagle]

i've gotten a new highest exp% cog!

[echo remnant]

ayee, very nice, thanks y'all

[true obsidian]

iirc, it buff your dmg

[green eagle]

and that's literally all it does lmao

[echo remnant]

yes makes sense, I just wanted to make sure since the icon is different

[glossy trench]

thankssss

[glossy trench]

ohhhhh

thanks

[true obsidian]

now my non-point cogs min exp is 80, hope it reach 100 someday...

[wanton gazelle]

That board scares me lol

[manic moat]

is there a current meta out there for trapping?

[pearl cedar]

Vman always on 8 hour nature traps, 10 hr royals on everyone else set by BM at least until viald done

[manic moat]

still looking to build exp, almost to level 60

[tacit tulip]

I prefer to set a nature trap on everyone using Vman (to share his exp gains) then royal traps on the critter you're going for using BM

[pearl cedar]

Then 8 hour natures set by vman on everyone

[manic moat]

cool, ty

[pearl cedar]

That's what I did as well, just doesnt make that big of a difference since trapping levels dont really help with critter gain, and once vials are done can go back put everyone on natures until you finish skill mastery

[manic moat]

and it doesn't matter who collects, just as long as vman sets them?

[tacit tulip]

true, they only real scale big with vman level, so all natures on him makes more sense

vman for the exp traps, BM for the critter traps

[pearl cedar]

For exp yes, and use the prayer as well as transfusion and any other exp buffs you have

Pushing base critter will increase your trapping exp the most though. So honkers isnt a bad vial to go for first

[manic moat]

what would be a good stopping for for leveling and start going for drops? is it 60 for the last trap?

[tacit tulip]

oh, base increases exp? I never considered that haha

[pearl cedar]

Only need 48 for royal traps. The final trap doesnt do anything

[manic moat]

oh, then no exp needed them 🤣

[tacit tulip]

it doesn't even have more slots than the royal ones

it's like, +3 agi

[pearl cedar]

Just on vman, i took everyone to 100 after finishing vials

[viral star]

this thing like gfonn be looking cool or nah?

[tacit tulip]

gimme a sec

[viral star]

cos i can afford it but idk if i should

[sick sentinel]

Looks cool, im saving all mine for the gold/silver stopwatches tho

[viral star]

lightning coool id say

[sick sentinel]

Too bad it doesnt change the buttons too

[viral star]

what gold silver stopw atches?

[manic moat]

so going for critter drops, all traps should be set my BM instead of vman now?

[uneven violet]

Chaotic neutral

[pearl cedar]

Yes but make sure vman preset has the critter gain skill on

[bold quiver]

weekly done!

[viral star]

oh i have the stop watch in shop rn

the golden one rn

[sick sentinel]

ye we have teh same shops

[viral star]

oh

is that good thing?

[bold quiver]

meh

[viral star]

i mean the 1 dayt time

[bold quiver]

i'd never buy it

why would i want 1 extra day

[sick sentinel]

very good, but you may or may not be able to use it to the best of your ability yet

[viral star]

hmm

[sick sentinel]

Gilded Stamp and Hydrogen discount
Boron clicks
Island bottles, trash island and crystal island
Snail mail
Shop, post office and key/colo reset
NBLB
Dr Defacus and Boops
Spice claims
Sailing captains
Random Event
Daily guild tasks
Retry w2 boss battle
Picnic stowaway
+1 day to minibosses
+1 day to gold relic artifact

for all that stuff

[bold quiver]

i still prefer UI, 1 xtra day is whatever

[sick sentinel]

u do you

[gentle anchor]

golden twine good?

[sick sentinel]

save for troll gear

[uneven violet]

You get 10 free pet pulls with gold watch

[bold quiver]

ui isforever looking cool, 1 extra day is what? nothing

[gentle anchor]

but is it good

[bold quiver]

at least for endgame 1 extra day is nothing

[sick sentinel]

i dont think it progresses companions

[uneven violet]

Check it’s wiki stats

[gentle anchor]

nah

[uneven violet]

I was lying through my teeth

[sick sentinel]

then why are all endgame hoarding them

[bold quiver]

same reason why all endgamers were telling ppl to level GT and that bubo was the fastest leveling characters, no reason

[sick sentinel]

mf got me

[true obsidian]

wait, does it fast foward weekly gift?

guide gift

[sick sentinel]

dont think so since that is a weekly timer

it just triggers daily reset stuff

it doesnt push you forward 24 hrs

[bold quiver]

soon

[visual tangle]

I should be using this prayer for speed run even though I only have about 20B vman dmg right? I imagine I would lose 1 or 2 mk tiers but would get 2x as many kills for portals

[sick sentinel]

no bad prayer

[true obsidian]

nope, never

[sick sentinel]

its additive/small

for huge loss in dmg

[visual tangle]

ok good, I haven't been using it but thought that may have been a mistake lol

[bold quiver]

have to max it

[sick sentinel]

maxes fibers, doesnt hoard stopwatches

[bold quiver]

meh most endgamers have very poor advise when account optimization are related anyway

[visual tangle]

have to max EVERYTHING

[opaque sun]

fiber only applies on base kills

[fading cape]

Just did Acorn Tower Defense up to 115. Mini Soul Apparatus still shows 94. (Before last defense it was 80). What am I missing?

[sick sentinel]

you do you brave lol

[bold quiver]

yeah that was the only prayer i was missing to max a few weeks ago, so i couldnt stop myself kkkkkkkk

[opaque sun]

So your 5000 kills per punch now does 5000 and 2 kills when using fiber prayer and assuming you dont lose mk tier

[sick sentinel]

if you went over the timer (like 2 and a half hrs) the mobs dont stop spawning. the last round saved is the last one you killed all mobs on screen

[visual tangle]

ok so def bad prayer then

[opaque sun]

And the damage penalty is a pure multiplier, so you cant avoid losing damage tiers in practice

[bold quiver]

without > with prayer, ouch

[visual tangle]

I wonder if lava intentionally put these little "traps" in here for us to fall into or if he just wasn't thinking about it much

[bold quiver]

not that bad, 5,1T is still decent

[opaque sun]

So in reality your 5000 kills per punch now becomes like 3000 and 2 kills

[sick sentinel]

gainnsss

[opaque sun]

Fibers are okay against mobs you are not going to get mk anyway

But mobs you dont get mk is not something you do in speed runs

[fading cape]

even when clearing the next 10 spot? I went all the way to 115. I cleared 100 and 110

[bold quiver]

and ppl still say fibers is bad MAXING

[opaque sun]

Lab/nobi/kill rings are great because they also apply to multikills

[bold quiver]

im only seeing gains there

[visual tangle]

so the prayer is additive aka high mk rate already = tiny drop in the pool and not worth giant dmg drop

[sick sentinel]

Yep, if there are mobs on the screen no matter what round they spawned on, it only daves the last round where you killed everything

[opaque sun]

Kill per kill bubble/fiber prayer/charred skull sucks due to applying to base kill only

[bold quiver]

only problem of fibers is that the dmg reduction is multiplied by your total dmg,

[sick sentinel]

If u go ovrler the time limit, the boss rounds dont stop the next waves from spawning

[bold quiver]

so its a big dmg oss

which is very weird, it was suposed to be a decent prayer but it ends up being bad

[fading cape]

the boss rounds don't have a timer. You have to kill everything before anything else can spawn

[opaque sun]

If fiber penalty was like accuracy, it would have been a go to prayer

[bold quiver]

right? weird that it isnt

its good for rift as u can see, but still, kinda bad overal

[sick sentinel]

How long were you in the td?

[fading cape]

maybe 25 minutes

[sick sentinel]

Mm then idk

[opaque sun]

At max level, its super hard to find the sweetspot where fiber is useful

[fading cape]

and that logic doesn't jive with the goblin forest I just did. I went to 130 and it took me over an hour and MSA counted the 130

[bold quiver]

yep and since it only multiplies the base kills even at max its not a great prayer, its only small boost

[sick sentinel]

I just assumed you hit the time limit for td's friend

[opaque sun]

Also too weak of a buff to make it viable through “no prayer”

[visual tangle]

was going to be my next question

[sick sentinel]

Prayer?

Sorry meant bubble

[teal lynx]

[visual tangle]

skilling talents on that one but not the others?

[pearl cedar]

Ie still calculates squishy passive

[gentle furnace]

BB doesnt have talent that affect worship

[pearl cedar]

So if you have squishy card equipped it will show a good amount more worship charge than if you don't

[gentle furnace]

BB specialize in fishing and cooking

[visual tangle]

but wouldn't worship still be a specialized skill, even though it's not a warrior specialty?

[sick sentinel]

For mages

[opaque sun]

sometimes when you have a wonky device transfer, you sometimes carry over passive talents of other classes

[pearl cedar]

I know ie doesnt show passive from squishy unless squishy is equipped

[sick sentinel]

What does it say in game under the worahip skill tab

[opaque sun]

so your bb might have got some wizard passive talent carried over at some point

[pearl cedar]

And what do your other chars say?

[visual tangle]

one of these things? lol

[sick sentinel]

Does your account on ie have sheepie marked as owned in companions?

[pearl cedar]

What cards do you have equipped on your bb

Hmm weird

An issue with IE then

[manic moat]

any trapping charts for set up so I don't lose out on refinery?

[cobalt radish]

Is the Kattlekruk gear worth crafting? Seems like you lose %stats for other misc attributes...

[opaque sun]

Gears are mostly about misc

If the misc applies for the job, use kattle. Else use magma

[manic moat]

Thi is what I had, is this something to continue?

[opaque sun]

Using exp traps on those blob fish? If so its fine

[true obsidian]

your vman need to 8/8 blob fish

[manic moat]

should I just do eaqch row covers each critter?

[cerulean hemlock]

Tell him to shut up

[sick sentinel]

thats what i did when i wasnt focusing on vials

[manic moat]

if the focus is on vials, just cover scorp and mouse for refinery then?

[sick sentinel]

pretty much

[little pagoda]

Oh so one very good star talent and one very useless star talent, I didn't know there were these rewards

[sick sentinel]

yeah that drop rate one is gonna be nutts

[opaque sun]

Yea to discover if the dr goes to 5 (most likely), or 45 (unlikely, but its lava), or infinite (its lava after all)

[sick sentinel]

in conclusion: lava

[opaque sun]

Its likely it goes to 5, and resets on start of the week

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/449a33e852055864f6cee5975b67c8a5.png

[lapis mesa]

very nice

[gray thicket]

Hey, question

Is this damage normal for the level I am in

[eager sedge]

No

[gray thicket]

[eager sedge]

My vman is at 60M

and he s pure dogshit

[opaque sun]

if its roughly 1/10 of your other classes, its fine

Level doesnt mean much for progress

[gray thicket]

1/5

[eager sedge]

Oh

Show skilling lvls

[opaque sun]

Then its okay ish

[paper sail]

You know 1/5 is twice as high as 1/10th right

[opaque sun]

Just means you spent more time exp farming for the account’s overall damage

Spend more time on skilling for more overall damage

[opaque sun]

Combat oriented push basically only gives levels (talents)

Skilling gives the stats

[eager sedge]

Yeah def get working on those

[gray thicket]

That is new to me

[gray thicket]

Will do

Ty

[eternal wasp]

Easy levels on trap and fishing

[eager sedge]

u welcome

[rapid shale]

Im also just tarting to level skills on my vman. the damage comes from the skillage damage talent?

[safe harness]

do folks reset at 200 post office streak or can you just continue if mats dont cost a lot?

[opaque sun]

skilling also means upgrading stuff

[rapid shale]

fair.

[opaque sun]

The cost of stuff stops scaling past 100

So if you are at 200, there is like no reason why you would reset from there

[safe harness]

thanks!

[opaque sun]

You go infinite streak on po 1. Ignore po 2-5. Reset po 6 around 20-30 for colo ticket farming

[rapid shale]

If I have the accuracy for all of w5, should i just be putting mainstat on tools and armor?

[safe harness]

im a mid gamer, accuracy came fast once i started leveling skills to get cards which gave me easy mats for the first bubble prime stat, id do main stat as the time window you are under accuracy in w5 from w4 is small

[rapid shale]

bet I have 111k accuracy on my DK so should be fine by the time i get to final mob

[paper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-wilfred-mott-salute-gif-5165008

[sick sentinel]

smort

[zinc torrent]

Is there a fast way to level up Divinity? like ballons or something

[paper sail]

Not currently, no. May change once w6 drops.

[formal minnow]

Is bubo just terrible for statue farming? I threw my crystal stuff on him since I'm already active farming for water, and I'm barely getting any statues

Also what's the best w5 map for bubo farming/statue farming

[teal lynx]

W5 Statue Drop Rate sucks really bad

If you wanna farm you should probably do it in W1. Not sure if beans also applies to Bubo

Beans as in the best map to farm

Just know that DK will get insanely more statues than Bubo

[ancient vine]

FINALLY

💀

[formal minnow]

Yeah, I can see how that would be true. I'm just trying to get 3 birds with one stone by lvling my bubo, getting statues, and water

I've already gained 8 lvls, so I guess that's not going terribly, but I can see how it's really a "pick two" situation

[frosty silo]

l cant farm squishy souls on worship l get the exp but no souls.... any1 know how to fix this?

[modern plaza]

bb is so difficult to beat up kettlekorn unless your dmg is poggers

[paper sail]

...did you Filter them?

[frosty silo]

wow thx

hahahah stupid xD

[rapid shale]

oof

[tacit tulip]

that's gotta be first, good job

[modern plaza]

is vman or bb harder for kettlekorn?

[tacit tulip]

about teh same, bb is easier to manage the moles tho

[modern plaza]

yeah the moles is so difficult tbh

[tacit tulip]

If it helps, there's a guide in this channel's pins with what you do to win

[modern plaza]

basically got to focus them until you get the map wipe move

[lavish cloak]

how is everyone doing?

[rough wasp]

Like 130k seconds less than u

[lavish cloak]

when you get your account to the point you hourly click the cranium bubble, i'm sure you'll get these gains

[rough wasp]

slowly getting there

[signal osprey]

[lavish cloak]

now here's a chad i want to compare cranium cooking numbers to. Sup TC

[signal osprey]

430k

Without arctis. Probably 450-460 with

[blazing zodiac]

thanks the good lord

[lavish cloak]

ah, even more impressive since you are dootless

[signal osprey]

2 days until my free doot though so its all good

[lavish cloak]

just arctis permanently linked to all characters would have been enough for me, all gods at once is just overkill

but then i might have made a smarter financial decision

just stared open mouthed at it going "i must have it" and disregard all other factors.

[signal osprey]

Yeah doot certainly is quite the bonus

[lavish cloak]

i held out for 2 months.

[signal osprey]

I'm mostly just waiting for more bundles with green gems

[coral goblet]

Free doot

[signal osprey]

Aside from that I'll stick to my weekly roll

[tacit tulip]

that's my choice too. Bundles are my weakness, you hear that lava?

[lavish cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/never-seen-again-gif-22504521

[signal osprey]

Yeah I only want my green gems if they come with some premium drip

[lavish cloak]

i'm so jaded i'm betting the next time we see green gem bundles is when the next rotation of companions hits

[signal osprey]

I dont see any reason for him to wait that long

There are plenty of idiots like me who would buy the bundle if it came out now. No reason to skip out on that until he has more companions ready

[blazing zodiac]

anyone know if theres somewhere on idle efficency that gives total multikill?

[lavish cloak]

multikill is calculated based on your damage against whatever mob you're testing against's hp

i don't believe i've seen any base sources, but you can definitely expect the resulting calculations of effective multikill to be absent from IE

i have not checked IT

[tacit tulip]

Can't see it in IT but honestly it'd be nice to have

Split it Base MK, KPK, and MK/T

[lavish cloak]

it'd be lovely if it was available in the base game

[blazing zodiac]

but like the sources, like for crystal, you have shrine, talents ,etc.

😦

[eager sedge]

obols,cards,prayers,artifacts

[blazing zodiac]

alright i'll use the tips and trick graphic, thanks

[paper nova]

What's teh diff between "player construct xp" and "bonus construct xp" ?
This cog makes the overall bonus % go down but shouldn't it be way better?

[signal osprey]

The directional exp is a separate multiplier with the board exp

Generally speaking its still an upgrade. 1% of player construction exp is worth a few % of bonus construction exp

[fossil urchin]

These boost the construct XP of the players in it's AoE, not the overall board

[paper nova]

So if I replaced the 12% in this row then it 'should' be a huge upgrade for me overall? It just doesn't show in the #'s?

oh i see

has to have the player within range

okay thank you both

[fossil urchin]

yes

[signal osprey]

You can click on your characters on the cog board to see their exp rates

[pulsar vortex]

Best character to farm all cards to 4-5 star on?

[signal osprey]

And compare any changes you make to your cogs

[pulsar vortex]

W1-W4

[signal osprey]

ES

[pulsar vortex]

Just cause of portal

?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[pulsar vortex]

Vman is bad because low kills and doesn't count for deathnote?

[signal osprey]

For active yeah. Afk vman is probably the best

[pulsar vortex]

Ah gotcha

Ty

[valid moon]

Is anyone else willing to help us dance in W4 on the food table.. We have 3/6 people on "Balloon Server 11" if you haven't gotten your achievement yet. Now is your chance.

[pulsar vortex]

Sure

[valid moon]

Thank you! That would make us 4/6

[dreamy rapids]

I actually didn't notice I have this achievement

[paper nova]

i can come dance

@valid moon when you find 6/6 i'll pull a lab char out

[valid moon]

We got it. It was an epic dance time.

but are you willing to meet together to unlock King doot on "Balloon Server 11"? We need an archer we have 2/3 people here.

We just need one more person here.

[iron ravine]

w5 wearing amarok armor

https://tenor.com/view/giga-chad-gigachad-big-gif-21053844

[paper nova]

that's painful. wanted a chievement too. i can come help with doot rf tho

[livid sleet]

Hi, do you know, the only max evolution upgrade is in superbits or there is another place. I bought 3 upgrades, so i can get max +7 grade of plants?

[sick sentinel]

yes, they are increasingly hard to come by

theres an evolution calc in #1084911530417606656

[livid sleet]

so basic we can get 4 grade plant and when i bought +3 upgrades from superbits i can get 7 grade. I'm not sure basic max grade is 3 or 4 ?

[sick sentinel]

4 tiers to start out, can buy 3 in supetbits to get tier 7

[signal osprey]

I'll get a T7 soon

[livid sleet]

Ty, so i can wainting for 7 tier 🙂

waiting*

[sick sentinel]

You can but it takes many months of waiting/timeskips

5 aint so bad, 6 takes a good amount of time too

Only seen 1 person able to get a t7

[rapid locust]

Is there a spreadsheet of statue and gold food locations for farming? Figure I might as well do that now that I got to w5

[sick sentinel]

Gaming plant evolutions

[rapid locust]

It feels like theres so much to do and nothing to do all at once lol

[tacit tulip]

yay free stormcallers (I know it doesn't work like this)

[rapid locust]

I did finally get a lvl 70 construction guy, time for big boy cogs

[sick sentinel]

Statues are farmed from crystal mobs mainly, dk is best and choco chip/good crystal spawn is pretty necessary to do it efficiently

There is a pin by trickz that has some info on it

[rapid locust]

yeah I heard you really need a choco chip but I guess they only show up once a year?

unless they are in the random weekly rotation

[tacit tulip]

the DK agenda

[sick sentinel]

There should be the jewel/chip google doc in #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 . It has the set rotation there

[rapid locust]

I really like my DK but I feel like I need to grind up my garbo characters too lol

[tacit tulip]

+1 slab

[rapid locust]

which hat is that?

[tacit tulip]

slab is this boy, a record of every item you've picked up

A lot of buffs scale their benefit from the amount

[sick sentinel]

Pirate hat, limited premium shop hat gives drop rate buff

Rotates in and out sometimes

[rapid locust]

I mean I'm ok with that 15 min afk gain

[signal osprey]

Only 3 more colos to go

Until I finish 150

[paper nova]

Besides checking wiki and waiting 24 yrs is there a way to know if you have all evolutions of a plant? I've assumed they all have 4 but is that wrong?

[misty spindle]

https://stefan5.idleonefficiency.com Can someone tell me what Im supposed to do next? Kinda lost

[valid moon]

Wow. How do I get 2 of those statues on my DK?

[sick sentinel]

4 base tiers for each plant, 3 purchasable tiers in superbits. The log book shows your evolutions if thats what youre asking

[tacit tulip]

if you get the skill high enough, and use the vman buff that adds +20 seconds, it lasts longer than the cooldown

[paper nova]

👍 Answers the question I think - ty

[valid moon]

WHAT? It lasts longer than the cooldown! That's awesome!! I love DK

[twin token]

How many hours does Chem give?

[tacit tulip]

tier^2 hours

1,4,9,16,25,36...

[valid moon]

Wow my vman is a lot more OP then I realized. I unlocked it got half way through W2 in voidwalking then stopped paying attention to the vman.

[twin token]

Oh ok thx

[valid moon]

I'm trying to wrap my head around sailing right now. I unlocked all boats got to lvl 66 sailing and I still have no idea what I'm doing with this skill...

Would anyone be willing to look at my IE and give me some advice on sailing? This confusing my brain.

[misty spindle]

yes

[valid moon]

https://mr_nice_guy541.idleonefficiency.com/

[autumn wasp]

camp this til its eldritch

[tacit tulip]

^ it's arguably the most important artifact

[valid moon]

Seriously? That good...? I can do that. I was currently wanting to camp to unlock the gaming post office crate. But I can do that instead.

[tacit tulip]

at max it increases your library book level to +75

[hardy quarry]

Fury arti is like rocket fuel for your account

[valid moon]

Interesting... It definitely goes along with our previous conversation regarding the DK having 2 Statue warriors

[tacit tulip]

there's a lot of talents that scale really well to just being really hig level too

[autumn wasp]

u need to do rift too

[valid moon]

Yes sir! 🫡 I appreciate the tips to see what I'm over looking

[torn remnant]

Hey, i seen to be stuck between poing and slug, anything i can be missing?

[tacit tulip]

typically, better artifacts

Nugg is important too, but there's not much you can do to force it out

[misty spindle]

you can use elephant god on all characters for more gaming afk

red big bubble for % extra gaming afk time, and DKs talents

[crude drum]

Not sure what to do from Void armor
Should I ignore Lustre/Dia route and go Chizoar, then upgrade to Troll?
Or since I'm kinda, but not really, pushing into W5, should I skip Chizoar (except helmet) and go Lustre/Dia route?
I just really don't wanna make 2 Void sets per char lol

[valid moon]

That would be rough. I really like having the benefits from the bear and all the lab features.

[torn remnant]

im trying Eld weather book rn

[tacit tulip]

grab chizoar helm if you can afford it then save for troll.

Troll armour upgrades into the w5 gear, not lustre/dia

[misty spindle]

obviously going 10 elephants probably isnt the most optimal thing in the world, but if youre hard focusing gaming idk

[valid moon]

I like the Chizor then Troll route. Skipping the Lustre entirely.

[torn remnant]

ima juice my shovel a lil bit and see if my nugget improves

[crude drum]

Thanks!

[misty spindle]

make lustre for slab and skilling boots, thats all

[torn remnant]

its 9k rn

[crude drum]

OH true

[tacit tulip]

9k is enough at least

[valid moon]

Oh I see what you're saying. For like farming and massively focusing on Gaming. That's an interesting thought. Honestly I don't know what my goal is to lvl up bits on gaming. I just figure it's a helpful skill to get better. I'm stuck at green 10k currently.

[tacit tulip]

I got snail with 10k nugg

[torn remnant]

[valid moon]

You are impressive. I want to be like you when I grow up.

A true gamer

[tacit tulip]

30 years gaming does that to you

[misty spindle]

Im not sure where most bits come from other then nugget, but I feel like some artifacts and bubbles are massive

im a bit behind you

[tacit tulip]

...and a love of spreadsheets

[valid moon]

Yeah I'm collecting spreadsheets for this game. Do you want to exchange some of your favorite reference sheets?

[tacit tulip]

ok I'm not that sad 😛

(sorry, couldn't help myself)

oh btw guys I'm going to spain next friday so expect the next update. The git always releases them when I'm not here 😂

[thorn oriole]

I got choco chip and doing statues, I have the black chips for card doing the extra crystal spawn. And maxed star talent for it. I got stamp decently high, what else does crystal spawn? I think I have dr P.O. Box maxed as well

[misty spindle]

shrine

[thorn oriole]

I got doot and shrine for every map

[autumn wasp]

yoooo i was just there

[thorn oriole]

How do you get that screen?

I’m trying check on mobile and idle eff hates mobile

[tacit tulip]

it's the hover text on spawn chance

not sure if you can trigger it with a phone, maybe tap and hold?

[thorn oriole]

Rip

Ig I’ll try on pc ina sec

[tacit tulip]

yay, another monster eclipsed

[lyric sequoia]

Pff, I got into the 10 red bits before I unlocked chemical

[tacit tulip]

so a mix of shrine/stamp

[thorn oriole]

Damn

How do I get a shit ton of bricks fast, other than calling the general

[tacit tulip]

I run all my anvils on pure speed with a bit of capacity

really the main way

[feral wedge]

How do I kill kattlekruk

[tacit tulip]

reduce hp to 0

[feral wedge]

Thanks

[tacit tulip]

to clarify, I'm guessing it's outhealing your damage?

[valid moon]

So where on IE are you looking at that from?

[tacit tulip]

Players -> Random stats -> hover on crystal chance

[thorn oriole]

Yeah ig I need to switch everyone to bricks and stuff I just forget

[untold saffron]

@signal osprey you have both right? is king of food or idle skiller BIS for worship

[valid moon]

Does anyone have any tips for me on how I could move quickly through the void walking with vman? that's what it's called when I click that button and reset all my worlds right?

[tacit tulip]

I'd be shocked if it's not KoF

[paper nova]

Is mob respawn useless on bubo since he is rezzing faster than the mobs can have normal respawn timer anyways?

ty

[misty spindle]

if you mean while speedruning, you can teleport

[valid moon]

That's good to know thank you. Makes sense.

[valid moon]

Okay yes. Speed running sounds like what I'm asking. So you're saying teleport instead of walking to the next location portal?

[pearl cedar]

King of food my a long shot

Eff doesnt really help worship

[misty spindle]

it depends, not sure where but there is a picture that explains what is more optimal on what map

[valid moon]

Oh wow that's interesting. Would I find that picture on tips and tricks?

[tacit tulip]

it's basically "how far away is the portal"

sand giants? Teleport

Swapping world? Teleport

gmush map? probably don't teleport

[valid moon]

I think Sand giants is where I got stopped.

That makes sense about the teleporting

[tacit tulip]

It's mostly that that map takes a bloody age to run to the portal

[valid moon]

What is the #1 factor of speed running? Is it my Death notes? Or is it my damage on my vman?

[tacit tulip]

bit of both, but MK/T is more important than the damage

[misty spindle]

also dont forget that if you want the most optimal 3D printing you have to kill all 3 boss difficulties, since it gives you more mob respawn which helps 3D printer

[valid moon]

I've been trying to get 50k starlite bars for it feels like almost a month.

[autumn wasp]

the duration of ur void skill

[valid moon]

Multi Kill / what is T?

[tacit tulip]

tier

so if you have 50% MK/T, every new damage tier you get adds 50% multikill

[valid moon]

That makes sense too. I maxed my out. But I suppose the Artifact yall are having me get and the library will help

[tacit tulip]

Yup 🙂

with all library bonuses in the game skills go up to 245

[valid moon]

Hmmm.... i should start lvling up my library because I don't do that. This will help a lot.

[valid moon]

Wow mine is maxed at 150 righ tnow.

[valid moon]

Okay and the tier is determined by the death note right?

[tacit tulip]

among other things yeah

there's quite a few sources of MK/T

there's even an artifact for it

[autumn wasp]

he means this

[valid moon]

Got it. That makes sense.

[valid moon]

Oh I should probably stop using the 20x Auto arm for library if they don't contribute to this checkout achievement. I don't have this yet.

[valid moon]

This has been helpful. I see what's better to focus on.

[tacit tulip]

back when 160 was max I spent a couple days just dumping basic books on the floor lol

[misty spindle]

wouldnt it have been easier to just quick sell them

[tacit tulip]

nah

shift click drops

don't have to walk to shop

[misty spindle]

ez-access?

did it not exist?

[tacit tulip]

still technically more clicks 😄

[misty spindle]

tru

[lavish cloak]

memes

[paper nova]

lvl all chars to 666, all bubbles, then afk 666 days.
See you in a while

[lavish cloak]

i obtained doot, so i at least have that part down.

🤡

[paper nova]

$666 dollars to the church of satan. paid once a day, for a total of 666 days

[untold saffron]

https://felixjg.idleonefficiency.com/world-2/alchemy

thoughts on where I should be atoming?

[lavish cloak]

slap this to 500 since you appear to be where you need to be to get onyx statues

youve gotten everything to 115, so just pick the usual sampling culprits and pump them to 500 in preparation for resampling everything, then do the useful ones that are easy to read 95% like masacre, shimmeron, maybe save up for the w5 bubbles to get them to 180, and the just grab as many bonuses as you can

[untold saffron]

my catching sample bubbles are definitely lacking ye

got all 3 base stat, hammer hammer on hourly and FMJ on 3 hourly though so that's helping

[lavish cloak]

this one was way more important than i thought it would be.

[zenith nova]

What happens when all bubbles get to 115?

[zinc torrent]

Nothing

[lavish cloak]

you have about 60% of the benefit from all non-linear bonuses, and you have a great foundational strength on your account.

[brisk anvil]

https://guninh.idleonefficiency.com/

Anyone got any advice/aims for me?
Don't really know what I should be focusing on, currently getting all my chars to level 75 in lab as I left lab alone since I got doot so fixing that now, I know sailing is bad but I couldn't be bothered so dumped them all on last island I have unlocked for now

[misty spindle]

I feel like you can easily do rift till eldrich afrtifacts and get at least fury

plus you can probably go for even higher rift

[lavish cloak]

so your account is so new that you simply need to keep playing all the game. look up quests that give you stamps to unlock, throw your 2 under-leveled duplicate classes in an exp farm afk area to get them at least high enough to wear gear you can upgrade them to, roll books, start farming killcounts for deathnote, and start maxxing talents that are important to your active classes

[brisk anvil]

I've been avoiding rift as its quite active and I'm mainly afk, but will try and push it next time as its probably worth it

[lavish cloak]

and if you don't care about sailing, the better thing to do is to spread out all your boats to every island to see which artifacts can ancient/eldritch faster and you can continue to farm resources to improve your boats for when you actually need the last 3 islands

[iron ravine]

where does the "alchemy bubbles are cheaper if upgrading on class specific" come from?

[misty spindle]

its very worth it trust me, in like 3 days you will probably be over rift 30, insane bonuses overall

[brisk anvil]

I always forget about quests tbh haha but thanks, defo should level up my duplicate classes also and probably get more gear for them

[misty spindle]

also get better skulls, rn youre missing out alot

[zinc torrent]

Combination of the second bubble and the bubble that gives cheaper upgrades

[fast verge]

CHECKOUT TAKE OUT

[brisk anvil]

Probably a good idea too, thanks!

[brisk anvil]

As in worship skulls or whatever they're called?

[lavish cloak]

these two things

[misty spindle]

the tool yes

you could also get better traps I think but that one is less important

[brisk anvil]

Great, will do, thanks!

[misty spindle]

but remember to do rift you will get so much from it

[brisk anvil]

What are the high value bonuses from rift? I stopped at skill mastery as I couldn't really see any of the rest being that much benefit but obviously I'm wrong haha

[misty spindle]

first of all stamp reduction, youre only at 4k which is low for where you are, this will help immencly, you also get eldrich artifacts which I dont think need explaining, plus 25 max book from fury is a game changer, other artifacts aswell

so all around its max 5 days of work for you, some active some afk but you get a lot of buffs that stack over time, other bonuses after that Im not sure you can reach, but they are also amazing

[brisk anvil]

Ah okay will defo go back to the rift then next time I'm active

Thanks for the advice!

[misty spindle]

👍

[vagrant mountain]

checked my computer and it was on my BM with auto off

[empty ridge]

What color represents 3x on printing ?

[crimson thistle]

best class for card farming?

[lavish cloak]

blue is x2, i forget the diff between gold and purple

i've got x6 printing and it's purple

maybe it's gold

[sick sentinel]

Blue is lab 2x, gold is god 3x, purple is both

[untold saffron]

is it worth cutting down atoms to have this on nearly an hourly click for 1 slot?

[lavish cloak]

by the time you can accomplish printing enough gold it becomes a 2 hour click, yes.

[signal osprey]

If you can add a click you add it

[untold saffron]

on about 950m oak samples, 440m copper, 100m gold but i skipped it last resample

[vagrant mountain]

it's not about the destination, it's about the journey

[untold saffron]

all on 6x ofc

[signal osprey]

For atoms it actually is the journey

[vagrant mountain]

i got it backwards XD

[signal osprey]

The destination is a maxed collider for all of us

The difference is how many bubble clicks you get along the way

I've always given up atoms in favor of clicks

[vagrant mountain]

amen

[signal osprey]

Still have my fluoride maxed now too

[vagrant mountain]

[pine yacht]

can anyone tell me how the new fishing works exactly, is it a daily bs like most of the islands or can u actually fish there indefinitely?

[vagrant mountain]

cooking is dead to me rn

[untold saffron]

just fish normally

and get 500mill xp an hour or some shit

[pine yacht]

ah thank god ...

[twin token]

Can u remove shrines

If so how

[pine yacht]

no eldrich ?

[untold saffron]

why

[twin token]

Respwwn rift

"Kill all mobs before they respawn"

[empty ridge]

Hmm I was on my one character and it was yellow but I have doot, and someone linked to the relevant god

[pine yacht]

ooooooooh I never fucking tought of that... fml I am so dumb

[signal osprey]

Your shrines are global though

You just have to deal with it

[twin token]

Only works if they're placed tho right?

Sadge ok

[signal osprey]

I mean maybe if there's a way to remove it you can drop the effect idk

Not worth resetting shrine progress though

[twin token]

Mob respawn is fresh on new level so that's why I was considering it

Don't think there's a way tho

[untold saffron]

even though fractal island is awful, is it still worth saving bottles instead of spending some on rando?

[signal osprey]

I plan on spending them on rando

[tacit tulip]

there's nothing to say there won't be an actual use eventuially

[signal osprey]

If lava ever makes fractal not trash i can just buy it later but I don't see any reason to prioritize it in the mean time on the off chance that he does

[vagrant mountain]

this book is kinda shit but probably worth

[signal osprey]

Its not just the book its also getting a full set of the drop obols

[untold saffron]

do duplicates stack for this, or singular slab slots

[vagrant mountain]

idk

[signal osprey]

Gotta buff that random event drop chance to get glacial obols

[vagrant mountain]

[signal osprey]

Now I just need 8 more

[vagrant mountain]

[sick orchid]

Is there a way to complete this task for rift. Get A Pirate Flag Score Of 75 On Your Siege Breaker. With the vman talent or i need to reset ?

[signal osprey]

Vman talent lets you go up to 100 so yeah you can get 75

[lavish cloak]

oh, IT lets you know when your shiny pets have reached level 5, i've been leveling them all to level 6 like a tryhard

[vagrant mountain]

same

[signal osprey]

You can change the level threshold for the notification

Mine will let me know when my next pets hit level 9

[untold saffron]

i've got them all to 5 now except for class and skill xp because they seem a bit eh, so now i'm back on shiny level up rates

[ornate isle]

what is the best obol?

[lavish cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-kitten-cute-waiting-gif-23792171

[untold saffron]

kattlekruk

[mental cradle]

What is the goal on shiney pets? Just starter with them

[untold saffron]

gmush and wooden board to 5 first

[lavish cloak]

your first priority is to get as many of the shiny pet level-up boosters high level so every pet after that gets easier.

[signal osprey]

[lavish cloak]

your immediate next priority should be infinite star signs, as shiny pets are the only source of that specific bonus

[bleak gust]

i specialize in waiting for random bs

[lavish cloak]

and here i am leveling up the w6 bonuses to level 6 before hitting base stat and damage shinies

[untold saffron]

I liked the meal bonus pets a lot too

[bleak gust]

i had 83 tlent books shinies should be no problem

[mental cradle]

Danke, then i will get gmush lvl 5 and try to get woodenboard

[signal osprey]

Yeah half my shinies are still 0

[pine yacht]

meh, I am doing them in order ( the speed and inf signs are at 6 already )

[mental cradle]

Is it a max level?

[lavish cloak]

priorities make these pages look funk

[sick sentinel]

Sometimes it visually bugs out in game. You should still be printing the appropriate amount, but to be sure you can check on IE or IT to be sure

[untold saffron]

there isn't a hardcap on shiny pets, it just starts to take forewver

[lavish cloak]

i figure getting everything to level 6 and then starting all over with shiny rate pets is a good enough strategy to half-way future proof everything. my worst fear is that i won't have enough leftover infinite starsigns

[bleak gust]

does that say 200 days for level 6 only

[pine yacht]

yes

[lavish cloak]

i need to get my level 5 pet to 200 days to graduate to level 6

[vagrant mountain]

how to increase max hp?

[untold saffron]

yes, but each fenceyard slot stacks, so 2 pets is 100 days, and theres level speed pets

[bleak gust]

oohhhhh

[pine yacht]

that's why u "max" speed pets first

[untold saffron]

event card, star talent

[lavish cloak]

think about stat sticking. get poo skilling tools and use kattlekruck gamba on them to get + str

[signal osprey]

Glublin and mammoth cards too

Then just all stat/strength

[lavish cloak]

food effect trophy

[pine yacht]

Mammoth as well

finally done with w1 greenstacking

mob drops that is

[lavish cloak]

how many total?

[untold saffron]

frisbee?

[pine yacht]

eh 55

[lavish cloak]

you could stop now. you have the majority of the benefit.

[pine yacht]

I'll sample that shit instead with Vman

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/5a489aa2cb7180f8a7450377c8b6a395.png

[lavish cloak]

this feeds my completionism dopamine more than it ever will feed my dps sheet

[pine yacht]

funny enough my wmush isnt maxed yet

card

[lavish cloak]

you haven't onyxed accuracy statue yet i'm assuming

[pine yacht]

I've only done a few, the ones I got from farming the power ones for the quest

I have way more pressing shit than statues atm

since onyxing at this point ( the ones that matter at least ) would take too long

[vagrant mountain]

i think i can max this one out with a few more books

[untold saffron]

you're 2 ahead of me, I'm still missing all the leaves, couple foods and W5 souls because i keep spending them

[signal osprey]

I wouldn't mind an hp trial. I got beginner dps

For the 2nd time now

[lavish cloak]

that feel when you mistake a bubble for an hourly click and delete all your nails

[vagrant mountain]

this is the first trial i've gotten over 12 points XD

[untold saffron]

pain

[lavish cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/anguish-despair-omori-omori-sad-sad-gif-22539758

[signal osprey]

I accidentally clicked the multi log bubble instead of the CC bubble on an hourly click once

And yes it was before I finished the iron vial

[vagrant mountain]

[pine yacht]

some bubbles really need an actual max lvl

[lavish cloak]

i am proud of my 14 million iron bars. i don't want to think about trying to max the stack.

[pine yacht]

like multi ones for example

[lavish cloak]

perhaps an upgrade lock.

one we could place ourselves

[pine yacht]

that'd be nice as well

[signal osprey]

No caps. I need my nblb to push useless bubbles forever

[lavish cloak]

nblb is free. i'm talking about expenditure locks

but yes, please no inadvertently halting nblb progress

[signal osprey]

It kinda halts itself after awhile

Once you start doing clicks and atoming good bubbles its left with mostly bubbles you don't care about

[lavish cloak]

by getting salt and critter bubbles to the same level as your multi-skill bubbles and spreading all its focus entirely too thin?

[signal osprey]

Mostly because if a bubble is good you probably already atomed it so it hits bad stuff instead

And on top of that most bubbles diminish so the higher they go the less you get per level

So you reach a point where nblb gives like a 0.3% increase to 10 bubbles you don't even like

And its like cool can't wait to do it again tomorrow

[pine yacht]

ah thankfully I dont have that problem, since I am too lazy to resample and get a meaningfull amount of atoms :p

[lavish cloak]

they are quite helpful for pushing your bubbles to atom-able territory when you're starting out and can't be bothered to invest all your time and energy into alchemy

[pine yacht]

U are talking to someone who hasnt sampled fishing for about a year and a half

[bleak gust]

dude yikes

[pine yacht]

I have a sample of about 40+M copper and a sample of 139 Shrapshell

[signal osprey]

The clicks are getting out of hand. This is bubo break number 5 for the day

[true flint]

Is the random cape in gem shop worth it?

[pine yacht]

when a lvl 41 guy has wings that you still cant get to save your fucking life ...

[true flint]

Well that's the dream, imagine it wouldn't be any good for the quest 😂

[pine yacht]

the fact that it gives +11 all stats and that like almost half his luck XD

[signal osprey]

Thats the power of the random cape

[true flint]

So worth it for 1100 gems?

[rough wasp]

Chizoar cape enjoyer

[true flint]

I suppose all are good, I already have 6 (roses and bosses 1-3) so unlikely to be a boost to slab

[signal osprey]

Thats up to you really. It has a chance to give some of the best gear in the entire game but it also has the potential to give you absolute trash

[sour oasis]

Anyone know what's going on here? Not the first time this has happened recently. Two stacks of coins drop from AFK gains, one stack is normal amount and the other is literally one coin

[signal osprey]

Personally I say its worth it because farming gems is fairly easy but thats really up to the individual

[true flint]

Yeah I do have the gems

[signal osprey]

That happens to me on mobile sometimes. Not really sure why though

[true flint]

Alright, what's life without a little fun

[sour oasis]

Yeah it was on mobile...not a huge deal but odd

[vagrant mountain]

apparently mobile has a problem with overflow

[true flint]

Ooff

[true flint]

Sorry mate...

[sick sentinel]

Mobile overflow used to be real bad

[pine yacht]

XD

[true flint]

Wait

Should have done it on my ES for the quest 😂

[vagrant mountain]

think it needs to drop from kruk anyways

otherwise you could just drop it and pick it up

[signal osprey]

Either way its still better than amarok

[pine yacht]

fun fact... I dont have those either

never got wings from a single boss, I only have chiz wings cuz I bought the random wing bs for gems like a year ago

[midnight pebble]

no cape or neck today, lots of obols but no longer need them

[true flint]

Fun fact, I did a day of boss farming and efaunt dropped on first fight, chiz on the last battle I had - ama took much too long and was the last I did, when I saw it was all for 10% def I was gutted 😂

[midnight pebble]

also yes needs to drop from boss, i pushed all characters through the questline at once so i can just move over when i get a cape drop

[pine yacht]

do portal mobs not get counted as kills in quests... if so the kettle quest with ES is gonna take a hot minute ...

[sick sentinel]

Dont do the kattle quest active, active kills only count the base kill

Afk counts multikill

[pine yacht]

ooooooooh

[fading cape]

Circ is correct. but for other effects, the ES portal mobs count for drops but don't count for portals, or quests, or anything else other than drops.

[pine yacht]

the thing is for portal I got like over 7M kills while for the quest I got 700k or smt...

[mellow kraken]

they do count for rift kills though

[pine yacht]

so they are definitely not treated the same

[twin token]

Is there somewhere I can see the base odds for artifacts

[green eagle]

i'm sure he got those from the wing drop in the FOMO shop lol

[lavish cloak]

@signal osprey what do Flies and Butterflies get you? i'm here printing double fruit flies for fmj clicks

[twin token]

?

Nobody know

Well does anybody know some easy damage gains I might be able to get

[twin token]

K I'll do that after gold vial

Well wait it's for sb so I'd do quick slap righr

[lavish cloak]

i'm far enough along that i print nearly a billion gold ore an hour so i click it every hour

i can't do the same to quick slap, i'd atom quick slap if i was going for some threshold

[fading cape]

all three classes get bonuses from each of them. All classes benefit most from quick slap at a certain point. But Name I Guess is easiest to level because printing gold ore is cake

[pearl quail]

I don’t even have this unlocked 😭😭

[twin token]

Oh ok

Should I level both then

I only have 3m gold print so gonna run out of stuff a lot

[lavish cloak]

where's your IE

[twin token]

Me?

[pearl quail]

wow uve been playing for ages

[twin token]

Use desktop view please

It's so much better

[lavish cloak]

thanks. i still feel infantile and underpowered

[pearl quail]

u vs brave who wins

[lavish cloak]

brave? is that a player?

[twin token]

Braverelease

Usually is in w4 chat so it's reasonable u don't know them

[gray pagoda]

I don't have the 5 star card rift unlocked yet, but I have 3 5 star cards using cardifiers. I have poop and genie, for crystal chance, and Mr. Blueberry, since it's an event and events don't come often. I have two cardifiers now, should I use them on Doot and Mr. Brightside?

[lavish cloak]

braverelease has a higher rank in the discord, so i assume they are the elder

[gray pagoda]

This is for active DK btw

[signal osprey]

I'm just pushing all catching bubbles to 300 for nblb

[twin token]

Should cardifier doot and giftmas if u can

[lavish cloak]

makes sense. i just wontonly waste my atoms on anything that i think is useful and less than level 500

[gray pagoda]

Don't have giftmas, that's why I was going for Brightside

[twin token]

Oh ok then yeah brightside

[gray pagoda]

I'll get four star doot and Brightside within the week, so I figured I could just save them

[lavish cloak]

the only advice for cardifying i can say with confidence: figure out what would be the biggest pain in your ass to farm up manually, and cardify that.

[twin token]

Could also do blotzkrieg troll for more dmg

U have to had gotten lucky on card packs tho

[gray pagoda]

Problem is I don't know what's considered hard to farm. I was seriously going to four star genie without a cardifier before someone told me not to do it manually.

[twin token]

Depends on ur es but generally w4 w5 certain bosses and events are the most worth

[sick sentinel]

Genie isnt hard to farm for tho... not everyone has good advice lol

[gray pagoda]

I wasn't able to participate in a lot of events unfortunately 😅 Most of my event cards are one of two stars, and there's one I'm missing entirely

[lavish cloak]

nightmare bosses, w5 skilling resources, and dungeon bosses. besides those, you could grab the most useful. doot is a winner usually due to requiring a 24 hour lockout key per kill

[twin token]

Yh it took me a night to farm 3 star to 4 star genie

[lavish cloak]

i get almost a thousand skelefish cards but only 70 kraken cards per 24 hours afk

[twin token]

I heard amarok is easy enough to farm 5 star on so efaunt probs the only realistically unfarmable nightmare

Well efaunt might be farmable de0ending on colo but I don't run w2 colo so idk

But yeah ik all the other ones are farmable

[sick sentinel]

W2 collo aint so bad, depending on drop rate and dk ability

Def more of a pain than other colos

[twin token]

Yh I like running w3 bc i get more gems on it

Also gives obols through chizoar and Slush

[lavish cloak]

anyone know of a calculator/list of what bubble unlocks require what amount of brew? trying to figure out how many bubbles i have unlocked (definitely into w6)

[signal osprey]

I just finished another 150 W2 colos today. Biggie greenstack soon

[sick sentinel]

I believe gems/ticket w2 is better, and you get more candy

[twin token]

Oh rlly

I'll go test

[signal osprey]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1138827420338757753

[sick sentinel]

I dont keep much track of stuff like that. But is what ive been told

[twin token]

3 w2 runs and 2 w3 runs then compare them sounds like a good test right?

[lavish cloak]

i wanna order you a pizza. you are my source for 70% of the information i can't find myself.

[signal osprey]

W1 is technically the highest gem per ticket but its only like 1 or 2 more gems than W2 and it gives no candy so not really worth it

W2-4 have pretty much the same expected gems/candy outcome per run but each world cost more tickets than the previous so the gem/candy per ticket gets worse going from 2 to 3 and then worse again from 3 to 4

[lavish cloak]

[wispy sapphire]

I know it's always alchemy+stamps but are there any other glaring things in my IE that I could clean up?
https://yourpethyena.idleonefficiency.com
If anyone has some tips they would be greatly appreciated

[twin token]

Oh I tested that and got more gems from w3 colo than w1

[signal osprey]

From a single run W1 gives the least

[twin token]

Just because of the amount of chiz keys that Slush gave

[lavish cloak]

😠

[signal osprey]

But you can run 3 of them for the same number of tickets as W3

[twin token]

Yh

[signal osprey]

So its more gems per ticket

[twin token]

I multiplied w1 colo x 3 and still got less

[wispy sapphire]

not sure I understand, where do gmush kills apply?

[signal osprey]

Wait you said you're counting keys too?

If so that changes things up. I just mean the colo loot itself

[lavish cloak]

so kill counts and multikill bonuses are an area i would set a character or two to grinding

[wispy sapphire]

ah ok thanks

[signal osprey]

If you actually plan to run all the keys you get then yeah W3 is probably the most gem efficiency colo

[twin token]

Oh yeah I counted keys bc they also give gems

[signal osprey]

Still less candy efficient thant W2 though

[lavish cloak]

your card collection could be boosted with a very minimal amount of work

[twin token]

Yh I always run normal chiz so thats why I do w3

[lavish cloak]

more specifically than "level more stamps" is "UNLOCK more stamps"

[signal osprey]

Stamps

[lavish cloak]

good job getting a bunch of meals to level 11.

you're not really specifically bad in one area that's glaring that i can see. you just need time accumulated to fill out all the areas that would be drastically improved with maybe a day of focus each.

oh, and spend your books

and kill your minibosses

[wispy sapphire]

alright, thanks for the tips

[lavish cloak]

oh, your 3d printer looks like you just got access to it about 12 minutes ago

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/662a57e93830163627a00d015d448f57.png

right, done resampling. 6 hourly clicks and a 3 hourly

and my frisbee's, all hail the frisbee gods

[lavish cloak]

try to identify who will be focusing on what skill and make a sample spreadsheet of filled samples that you can aim towards. typically you can print WAY more skilling resources than mob drop resources.

[wispy sapphire]

ive been using the steam notes recently, pretty helpful

[lavish cloak]

good enough. i guess just unlocking everything you can is the step i should advise you focus on.

[twin token]

Does kpk help with mob prints

[lavish cloak]

then double back

[wispy sapphire]

will do

[lavish cloak]

not obviously, no.

[twin token]

Rip

[lavish cloak]

it adds like 20k kills per hour, which is what, 150 more gmush sample?

[twin token]

Nobi and brightside are kpk too btw

So they do add to it?

[lavish cloak]

they affect it. mathematically they add a number.

it's just absolutely not the first thing to work on boosting if you want more number

[twin token]

So nobi>snehebatu for vman prints?

[twin token]

Yeah was just thinking abt nobi

[lavish cloak]

oh god juggling. i am definitely a dirty dooter, and have very little knowledge on what to do with that anymore

[twin token]

Ig asking directly would've been better

[lavish cloak]

i paid 500$ to not have to worry about that.

[twin token]

Oh rip

[signal osprey]

Kpk has no impact on prints

[edgy mulch]

is there a list of all the things that give + bits ? i feel like i am missing something

[twin token]

Thx

[twin token]

Idleon insight

[lavish cloak]

i can't imagine the breakdown on this

[twin token]

Click the box at the top left and select gaming bits

Top right*

[twin token]

Would be nice to have an in-game breakdown tbh

Would help so much with knowing how to push damage or other things like that

[lavish cloak]

on the one hand, i want idleon efficiency, toolbox, and insight features to be INSIDE idleon so i can math all about it inside the game

on the other hand, i wouldn't play if i didn't have this discord full of you all to play and compare experience with, so that much clutter might make my eyes glaze over

i play this game like i played oldschool WoW

[twin token]

Yeah but i feel that would make the game a lot less approachable

[lavish cloak]

damage meters, guild forums, boss kill videos, everything except mods

[twin token]

And I doubt the majority of the player base plays like us

[lavish cloak]

we are the 0.1%

bernie wants to tax us

[twin token]

Hes once again asking for our financial support when we should be asking him

[signal osprey]

I worked hard for my godshard coins

[lavish cloak]

a team of 10 mindless automaton workers led me to this success and i'll be damned if i owe the government a cut.

[signal osprey]

If bernie wants my money he can go farm gmush like the rest of us

[lavish cloak]

i laughed when they said bernie was too old

[edgy mulch]

i think i just need a bigger nugget or something ...

[lavish cloak]

between the rest of the candidates, we were guaranteed the oldest sitting president regardless of outcome

[signal osprey]

We all need bigger nugs

[lavish cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/size-is-everything-neil-degrasse-tyson-startalk-the-size-is-all-that-matters-the-size-is-all-that-counts-gif-20161363

[edgy mulch]

im at red bits and the last few unlocks feel like imposible snail leveling even if i max it and thats stupid hard like months to do it wont get me to the trillions of reds

thats why i was thinking i was missing something

[lavish cloak]

you are becoming aware of a problem that exists for the entire playerbase

it's currently impossible to forsee the final unlock this decade

so just get what you can and sit tight for w6 to give us even more bonuses to make all our current numbers look like childsplay

[edgy mulch]

i think the only way is if there was some way to bug the towers so you can hit wave 10k

[signal osprey]

Yeah if you're far into red bits its not a you problem its a game problem

Nobody has gotten the last superbit and maybe a handful of people have gotten the one before it

Gaming just isn't very balanced lol

[edgy mulch]

i think i could unlock it if i did not spend bits and just grinded gamming for like .. 5 months maybe

[lavish cloak]

i could see getting 800T in time for w6. not whatever comes after tho

[edgy mulch]

90 q comes after

[lavish cloak]

yeah eff that. lol

[signal osprey]

Thats what the people with 400k nugs and 20+ snails say too lol

[lavish cloak]

trying to get enough purple bits to get the 21st plant

[edgy mulch]

like i can play the gamming thing none stop its growing its just grulling

its not like my farm ever runs out of time plants or resets once you hit red it just kind of loops and its just grinding shell levels

[signal osprey]

Yeah I've decided I'm just gonna grind T7 until further notice

[edgy mulch]

and it feels really shity to grind if i could idk unlock x 10 in pong or something

[signal osprey]

No point in trying to do anything meaningful

[edgy mulch]

the last slot is +10 all atoms

[signal osprey]

Yeah but its also not possible

[edgy mulch]

i mean it is just takes FOR EVER

[signal osprey]

We'll get it in W6

No sense worrying over it now

[untold saffron]

I seem to have done something to lose DR but cannot work out what. cards, obols, card set, chips, gear is all the same

[sick sentinel]

Sb?

Prayer?

[untold saffron]

i did just resample on all my archers but they're back on their old loadouts

[sick sentinel]

Family obols good too?

[edgy mulch]

i guess i should give up on gamming then and just try and unlock famly 5k that is prob easyer to reach for now

[brisk bay]

hey is it better to keep the rock on or off for gaming?

[clear quartz]

ive been keeping it on, although i turn it off for overnight usually if i remember. or if im using the log or gamer pots

[opaque sun]

in theory, kitsune on is a net positive if you can manage all the harvests

So its basically up to you if its worth it

[brisk bay]

I'll give it a shot then

gaming is just getting tiresome tbh

just feel like I'm banging my head against a wall slowly until I get a bigger nugget

[lavish cloak]

this seems like something it'd be hard to push higher

oh hey, i finally got to purp t abbreviations!

that's enough skill efficiency for a couple months

[tawny jacinth]

So does Jade Rock artifact give more div points or is it both points and xp?

[lavish cloak]

more divinity points only

[pearl quail]

Dayum

[tall horizon]

cant wait until I finally get book and can invest in eff

[lavish cloak]

i was extremely lucky and got it the 3rd shimmer trial. rngesus giveth and rngesus taketh away

[tall horizon]

ya, i've had my share of luck so bad luck is only fair I suppose

i dont like it... but its fair lol

[signal osprey]

So how much more bad luck do I need to get a free doot?

[lavish cloak]

doot is on a special rngesus mountain of conflicting interests.

[tawny jacinth]

Depends is grandma still alive?

[signal osprey]

Oh dear

[lavish cloak]

i'll kill that reindeer

[tall horizon]

If I told you, it might break your spirit

[signal osprey]

Thats not any different than not having doot

[coral goblet]

What do you do with sailing when you finish all eldritch?

Split across the 3 island maps for bubbles only?

[tall horizon]

go for all maroon ships

[opaque sun]

get ship upgrades to make them 50m speed, then farm bubble mats or just send them all to last island to sail exp

[coral goblet]

y tho if you have all artifacts

Oh to get bubbles mats faster I guess