lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[twin token]

Crystal steak makes all stat go crazy

[tall horizon]

nope

[opaque sun]

mk pendant is not a “per tier” so its really weak

[spice frigate]

what should I be doing with gaming? just getting mutations and leveling for now?

[opaque sun]

Scarf usually gets more stats due to is real high base stats and stone slots tho

[twin token]

Green scarf not red

[opaque sun]

You need a really high stats for strung tooth to be

[twin token]

But I assume it's rhe same for both

[sharp igloo]

Why is 5% allstat better than 20% respawn for active ES? Just because youre getting most of your kills from wormhole, so respawn doesnt matter as much and 5%all stat might raise your damage enough to get to the next mk tier?

[tall horizon]

es doesnt need respawn, it has a talent

[opaque sun]

ES basically ignores respen

[twin token]

Crystal stewk makes all stat rlly good and es already has respawn

[tall horizon]

you will always have something to kill

[opaque sun]

respawn only useful if you need to wait for mobs to naturally spawn back

[tall horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/rashaken-idleon-wormhole-es-portal-gif-16822854958532439560

[twin token]

So respawn doesn't help as es will never run out of stuff

[twin token]

Or afk obv

[sharp igloo]

Gotchya.

[spice frigate]

dang i constantly run out of stuff on ES i must be doing something wrong

[opaque sun]

But still red scarf will give you more stats than tooth

[sharp igloo]

Guess I have a use for my teeth necklaces now lol

[twin token]

No it's just that when ur choosing between those two pendants u don't run out

[opaque sun]

Unless you managed to pull mystery stone on tooth for a total of 10% stat

[twin token]

It's normal for early-midgame stuff

[opaque sun]

Running out of mobs on ES means your wormhole talent lvl is absurdly low

[spice frigate]

probably, it's 138 atm

[sharp igloo]

How likely is that? I might try since the teeth necklaces I have rn will probably be turned into scarves later anyway. I only have 2 guys who can ewuip the scarves, so I made 2, but I still have 2 teeth left over.

[spice frigate]

bout highest i can get it until i can get better books anyways

[twin token]

Either that or ur not doing enough damage to have enough mobs to respawn

[opaque sun]

Its like 4% to hit that specific misc stat, so do that 5 times in a row

[twin token]

So depending on how much dmg u do even w3 mobs won't be 100% uptime on respawn when u just start using es

[sharp igloo]

Oh lmao no way

Ill just use normal stones then lol

[fallow aurora]

kruk stones would probably be irrelevant by the time w6 comes out

[twin token]

P sure the chance is this

[opaque sun]

You can always try for mystery on tooth, and if it fails make it into red scarf

[twin token]

My math might be wrong tho idk

[ocean fox]

ItS aN IdLe AfK GAmE JuSt KeEp TrYInG

[sharp igloo]

Thats what I was thinking, but with those odds, Id rather just have the extra stats from kruk stones for now

[wooden elk]

Any fun things to do while eclipsing? I finished up onyx statues, moved everyone except BB (super chowing) and Vman (Skilling) into W2, I'm sampling for vials along the way. Just wondering what others were doing during this loooong process.

[twin token]

True if u don't have 10% Kruk pendant ur just weak willed

[opaque sun]

If not doing stat 10% tooth, red scarf is going to give you more stats anyway

[sharp igloo]

Yeah but some of my guys are too low leveled to wear scarves so they have to use the teeth for now until I bother to active them overnight at wurms lol

[opaque sun]

Just for a placeholder tooth to wear its whatever

Sadly this game lacks active pendant

[sharp igloo]

I guess lol, screw it maybe ill try it

Watch me come back tomorrow with a 10% tooth lol

[opaque sun]

Or the mixed feeling 7% stat that you are not sure how to treat

[sharp igloo]

Lol Id probably keep it for sampling or something. Maybe give it to my bubo for farming money

[granite grove]

when will lava finally add that active DR and active exp stat

[sharp igloo]

Nov 4th, 2025

[opaque sun]

New stat called “active gains”

[vagrant mountain]

fuk

[opaque sun]

im failing to see the fuk aspect in that

[wooden elk]

He has to fight RNG for eld?

[opaque sun]

Its not like he is losing turkey for reaching max level

[vagrant mountain]

im just gonna be gated behind eldritch meals

could be level 51 smh

[opaque sun]

By the time you get others to 50, you will get eldritch

[vagrant mountain]

hopefully XD

[thorn oriole]

whats the best way to farm for mutton quest?

[opaque sun]

Poops, rats, crystals

[tall horizon]

just play the game

[wooden elk]

Have everyone on it at the same time

[thorn oriole]

ive been playing for a long while and have 400k play button but need the other two

[opaque sun]

ES will probably get enough from rats and poops for the first two items

[thorn oriole]

people that have played the game after me have been getting the stamps so im just wondering if theres a fast way

[opaque sun]

For the cloudsound, just dk on beans or something while you get statues

[tall horizon]

what top said

[vagrant mountain]

i never actually farmed for them, you just get some from everything

[heavy moth]

even easier now than before

[tall horizon]

gotta get those extra atoms from cloudsound lol

[fallow aurora]

I hope I get my last gold egg tomorrow so I can get achievement

3 gold eggs turned into plat eggs in 1 day, but 1 silver egg won't turn gold

[paper nova]

Where is the 'middle' of the screen for troll? i get it right like 8/10 times so i get confused when i miss

[sick sentinel]

i have no idea

[tall horizon]

i dont think anyone actually ever figured that out lol. It seems to change

[paper nova]

lol rip

[tall horizon]

Ive tried killing in the same spot, managed to pass and fail doing so 🤷

[old crane]

do we know if its based on which one spawns closest to the middle vs after they move around?

[paper nova]

def movinhg i think

[tall horizon]

🤷

[paper nova]

i think ive killed some that spawnedf on one side and walked top the middle. but didnt pay taht much attetnin

typing and fighting

[opaque sun]

For the middle screen troll mini game i just kill whatever and just move on to the next

[paper nova]

I THINK that's the middle so sometimes the mob right above it is closer but if a mob on the left platform is near that spot then they will be closer than a mob right above the spot.
Just hypothesizing

[vagrant mountain]

casual endgamer

[opaque sun]

After few kills and finishing tasks, troll enters the “no more shield at start of battle” so people don’t bother to care much

[signal osprey]

Getting close to 100% drop on 4hr from biggie

[twin token]

When is 100% 72hr

[signal osprey]

I think I need a little more dr

[twin token]

Just a bit

[opaque sun]

Like a vman marrow talent level of buff on dr

[twin token]

Imagine that lol

[opaque sun]

Or hope that the weekly battle drop rate star talent works for lifetime difficulties beaten

[signal osprey]

Also got another 500k of these for the green stack

[granite grove]

how much biggie hours estimated for a greenstack

[signal osprey]

Very rough estimate of 2k based on my recent numbers

But theres a good bit of variance with orb breakpoints and it also depends on dr

[crisp silo]

2k days for eyes

[signal osprey]

Plus you'll get different amounts from colo biggie and normal biggie

[signal osprey]

Thats doot not biggie

[opaque sun]

googlely eyes and doot eyes. Both are eyes

[signal osprey]

Yeah but biggie can be farmed in colo so its quite a bit less time gated than 2k days

[opaque sun]

Organic biggie and genetically modified biggie

[signal osprey]

Organic biggie is a lot better

[opaque sun]

it has more flavor and less cruelty

[signal osprey]

Modified biggie I only got 84 4 hours candies on at roughly the same orb count because organic biggie allows midas

[opaque sun]

Also you can theoretically rack up more orb kills outside i suppose

[signal osprey]

Plus even with stacking orb to about 300 before summons I could still get like 10 or so kills per orb as opposed to 1 per colo

Yeah I could get the guaranteed 4 hour if I stack more orb for sure but I was settling for 300 to save time and sanity

[cursive forge]

idk if I should be doing crystal countdown

but wouldnt that be annoying

I dont have enough points to level all talents

[sour oasis]

what are you, level 150?

[cursive forge]

ye

162

[sour oasis]

oh lol

get some levels

go afk in world 5 maps for like 2 days

get 100 levels

[cursive forge]

but my damage is so low

[sour oasis]

only thing that matters is XP

[cursive forge]

Im only getting like 600M/hr at most

[elfin cape]

Oh yeah, under skill level 100 or so, not worth CCDing

[cursive forge]

alr

[sour oasis]

also need chocolate chip to make it anywhere fast

kinda forgot about that

[fading cape]

yeah it's pretty important

[opaque sun]

at that stage, your skill lvls should be zooming from doing normal skilling

[heavy moth]

ES at stilted for troll key ? or spam colo with dk

[opaque sun]

Both viable

[cursive forge]

probably

[opaque sun]

Spam colo is obviously faster of you already have the tickets, but if not ES

[cursive forge]

but the efficiency is so low

but I will get 30 in an hour

[heavy moth]

aight thanks

[pearl cedar]

Should I just send it, this is taking forever.

[cursive forge]

holy moly

but you are half way there

[vagrant mountain]

imo 100% is overrated

especially with the divinity bubble that gives chance to not use points

I only used 100% one time getting all the gods

[opaque sun]

God rank 4 was doable, i did with 50%

[tall horizon]

I've spent way way over cost on non 100 for rank 3 ( 100 hasn't shown up)

[pearl cedar]

Oh I agree, Ive just had 100% on for like a month figured Id wait it out

[cursive forge]

anothe question when should I start doign cranium cooking

[pearl cedar]

Yes

[opaque sun]

God rank 5 is asking me 9359m for just a 25%

[pearl cedar]

Yeah that's what I'm afraid of. Not that God Rank is awesome, I just needed Div levels and happened to get a 100% chance right after godrank 3

[tall horizon]

Ya I'm in it for the div as well, just expected to get rank 3 before finishing... did not happen

[pearl cedar]

What div did you go to?

[tall horizon]

Took all chars from 11x-128+

[opaque sun]

My guys are div 130-150 ish

[pearl cedar]

Nice I have to rotate SB and BM in cause I them on gmush for awhile

So they're only in the 100s

Everyone else in the 130 range

[vagrant mountain]

if only you could gain div points instead of exp like TranQi

[tall horizon]

Half nearing 140 apparently

Been scammed out of this rank

[cursive forge]

is there a reason to keep after I unlocked the next one already?

[tall horizon]

Not really, no

[cursive forge]

alr

I just realised

this doesnt calculate multipliers?

[sour oasis]

the multipliers are for divinity gain not XP

[cursive forge]

oh wait is it

[sour oasis]

mantra has no divinity gain, only xp

[cursive forge]

so there is no where to see your div exp multipliers?

[sour oasis]

your xp/hr can be seen if you go in skill menu of your character and click divinity

[cursive forge]

ah ok

[sour oasis]

Should i wait for account lab level 1000 before taking bubo out of lab and using Arctis? I feel like right now the XP that bubo shares with my other characters warrants keeping him in lab rather than active farming

My account lab level is 940

bubo lab level 148

[dapper meadow]

Just goat a couple chars for a few days. Boost your lab and div

Then arctis when 1k

[sour oasis]

Hmm i was doing goat on like 5 chars and switched to harriep instead for more atom production but i might have jumped the gun

bubo gets 4.5k/hr xp and the other chars all get around 1k

too low?

[dapper meadow]

A bit low but time solves all 😜

[sour oasis]

i could work on the stamp for sure and maybe the vial

[hidden grove]

Doot solves all problems

[sour oasis]

ah yes its so simple

[hidden grove]

Tell me about it

[slim rose]

Is there a comprehensive list of things affected by the gold pocketwatch?

[dreamy rapids]

Just woke up OMG an option to hide damage

[warm parcel]

Idk, but my dopamine levels are on that list.

[slender monolith]

what does the gold pocket watch reset?

anyone know?

[slim rose]

I tried looking at dailys on the wiki but some are skill related

Dont want to waste mine to test

[dreamy rapids]

Every thing that daily reset trigger

[slender monolith]

right but like what lol...

[slim rose]

Like i can think of nblb and shops and bosses timers maybe

[slender monolith]

nblb is useful but idk if its worth 30 trophy

[dreamy rapids]

Shop restack
Golden Eelic
NBLB
Auto Trap
Snail
Atom alchemy
Boss and Colo keys

[slim rose]

Seems a little underwhelming or overpriced

[sick sentinel]

its one of the most broken things in the game

[slender monolith]

golden eelic?

[sick sentinel]

the stopwatch in the w2 boss thing

[slim rose]

Enlighten me oh wise one

[sick sentinel]

Gilded Stamp and Hydrogen discount
Boron clicks
Island bottles, trash island and crystal island
Snail mail
Shop, post office and key/colo reset
NBLB
Dr Defacus and Boops
Spice claims
Sailing captains
Random Event
Daily guild tasks
Retry w2 boss battle
Picnic stowaway
+1 day to minibosses
+1 day to gold relic artifact

[slim rose]

Maybe i dont make enough atoms to see the value in it that yet

[sick sentinel]

literally just the atom clicks is worth it

thats probably it, that you cant maintain that kind of production yet

but all those advances make it worth it

[slim rose]

I ought to redo my printer and try to get my atoms up

[dreamy rapids]

It will be worth it to stack on those when W6 come around

[sick sentinel]

exactly, unless for some reason they would be blocked for w6 content

i could see it happening but we'll see

[fading cape]

Does it activate as soon as you buy it or does it give you an item to use to cause activation?

[fading cape]

critter traps?

[sick sentinel]

should just be daily stuff reset, its not a time skip

[dreamy rapids]

You get an item

[sick sentinel]

ye storable item

[dreamy rapids]

So 1+ for slab

[uncut bear]

When is w6 Release?

[dreamy rapids]

[slim rose]

<6 months is what ive heard

[uncut bear]

Lel

[slim rose]

[fading cape]

just another thing to green stack

[opaque sun]

wise man keep gold pocketwatch until next season event, or to catch up the artifact printer bonus after a resample

[pearl cedar]

Based on previous world releases/future content drip probably like end of year

[fading cape]

or catch back up on snail.

wonder how it'll work on special events? Like summer cooler event. Wonder if it'll let you skip to next day for max event items again

[pearl cedar]

Just to fail again waste of pocketwatch

[dreamy rapids]

I am only at 8 after dropping from 12 to 5

[opaque sun]

snail you can always store mails anyway so i dont think its worth saving gold watch for snail alone

[dreamy rapids]

I ain't touched Gaming for days

[pearl cedar]

Why you keep pushing without the atom

[opaque sun]

Like cant wait for getting 10 checkpoint? You know you dont have to use snail the moment you get 3

[dreamy rapids]

I am slowly getting there man

80K atoms right now

[pearl cedar]

But why would you risk snail

Lol

[dreamy rapids]

I mean I though just to level it up to 10 and than stop

And than to get the atom

[pearl cedar]

I know but you went for 13, when you could have just waited for next level of atom

[opaque sun]

maybe a chronic gamba addiction with shaking hands

[dreamy rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/drifter-destiny-oof-alright-alright-alright-gif-13749019

[vagrant mountain]

final score

[spice frigate]

why hasn't this 180 unlocked

nvm i had to relog lol

[sour oasis]

aw man

[autumn rivet]

whats the ideal ES talent bar

[vagrant mountain]

not that important

just have portal first

[formal minnow]

It did work for my critter traps and my forge refill, and my anvil

[formal minnow]

The only reason I know it did was I lvled up trapping on the character I used it on, and then went to change what their anvil item was producing and the items I was smelting at that time😅

[sick sentinel]

It makes sense in the case that you had traps/anvil ready to be claimed and were waiting for your reset since rift vacuum and the auto arm anvil claim work on daily reset

And forge also deposits on reset with its auto arm extension on

[raven pasture]

does es portal mob health get scaled by the max hp prayer downsides?

[fading cape]

yup

[raven pasture]

rip

ty

[fading cape]

yeah. don't put midas on ES. haha

midas works great on DK. And gold one works great on bubo.

[sick sentinel]

Pretty good on dk too

[hoary light]

possibly a dumb question but does putting multiple of the same shiny in the pet yard increase the rate at which the shiny buff levels up?

[rocky socket]

Yes it does

[hoary light]

nice time to stack like 30 of one shiny lmao

[rocky socket]

Yeah you could start with those that actually help to increase those rate too

Like green muschroom

[hoary light]

yup gonna start with those then move onto MK

then beyond that not sure

[rocky socket]

Also thanks god for the worship update to hide number, about time

[hoary light]

oh yeah also Is there a max level that shiny guys get to? because idleon toolbox is yelling at me about a shiny level threshold and I'm not sure what that means

[fading cape]

threshold on toolbox is what you set it as. the default is 5. After level 5 levels becomes incredibly difficult, and not really worth it to focus on until everything is at 5

[hoary light]

got it thanks!

[hoary light]

awesome I've been using IT for quite a while and I'm still figuring things out I guess lol\

[cursive forge]

question

this dont have Misc so it cannot be rolled into 2 chopping power right

[dreamy rapids]

Pretty sure it can

[cursive forge]

alr

thanks

[static basin]

skilling obols can only roll +1 power at hexagon and sparkle, but you'd want to be using slush and kattle at hexagon and sparkle anyway

[opaque sun]

thus skilling obols are really easy to make

Just combine and its done. Spend frags if you are swimming in them, to roll the highest stat if you really feel like it

[sweet mountain]

Well, apparently there is a limit to the number of bosses you can kill. Didnt expect that

[opaque sun]

One day they there will be a miracle rotation where you can do 30 “misc trophies” and also gold watch available in the store

[uncut bear]

So Meta is two pieces of Gear from krattle and two pieces magmar Set?

[opaque sun]

just look at the misc stat of kattle and if it applies to what the character is doing, use that kattle. Else keep the rest in magma

Drop rate applies for almost anything combat related, while respawn is effectively “fight afk gain”

[crisp silo]

Holy a worship buffffff

[worthy skiff]

What is faster for Troll key farming, afk, active, DK, ES,...? Can reach around 12.4% dr. I need some keys to upgrade cards

[untold saffron]

theyre normal drop table so es

[opaque sun]

disregarding ticket cost. DK on colo4 is the fastest

[static basin]

it's not really about it being normal drop table, it's about the map layout and mob density, but yeah ES for troll keys

[worthy skiff]

Thanks all, could probably afford a few Colo runs too

[dreamy rapids]

So ES is better at farming keys than DK even on Worms?

[opaque sun]

on wurms, its an exception because the map layout is very very good for DK and the mob’s base Hp is too high that works against ES

So on a typical account, DK will do better on wurms. But if you have insane damage, ES better

By high damage i mean like in Qs of damage

[magic oyster]

Oh man, I left vman fishing all week for cards and I just checked and he had transfusion up with efficiency too low to catch the ones I wanted

[runic token]

Glitch?

[opaque sun]

In a way yes. When like using random event teleports, it sometimes end up in the platform that used to exist before

[dreamy rapids]

Is there a good way to farm 1B critters beside just waiting?

Even crab takes long

[fast grail]

make vman trapping + worship levels better, that helps immensely

[opaque sun]

And get sources of base critter+ such as from shiny and vial

[dreamy rapids]

I put my Vman on xp Blob amd have the 2 shinies at level 5

My overall level on Vman is 159

[opaque sun]

Lot of room for improvement

[dreamy rapids]

Such as?

Like what trap should I use on Vman?

[opaque sun]

Nature traps. And also the total level suggests your worship lvls are behind too. Use the best skulls (determines worship charge rate), and always claim souls with vman before using ES siphon

[dreamy rapids]

Does efficiency effect XP gains?

Also should is put the traps with Vman?

[raven vale]

@opaque sun are you running any divine armour on ES?

[crisp silo]

Prob just the dr equips, the respawn on es is not as useful

[raven vale]

i was thinking the same

[sick sentinel]

Eff doesnt help for trapping/wroship exp, but other skills up to 100%. Yes trap on vman decked out in exp talents and transfusion, exp prayers, cards, whatever chips

[dreamy rapids]

Thank you

[proud pumice]

hey, i'm having issues making onyx statues on my second character. i drop the onyx tool on the ground but the statue man refuses to pick it up. Has anyone had this issue? How to solve it?

[raven vale]

He's already Onyx?

[proud pumice]

for reference, he isn't onyx already

[crude sedge]

Hes onyx already

[proud pumice]

only in color

[raven vale]

If he wasn't he'd be gold

[proud pumice]

look at the statues

[opaque sun]

yeah just head and feet drop rate ones for active ES

[raven vale]

Thank you

[proud pumice]

lvl 34 power statue gives 340 base power

[raven vale]

Have you deposited any more power statues since getting to onyx though?

[foggy crater]

try deposited first, then you'll see the different

[proud pumice]

no, but it should double the effect when you onyx it

on the character that has onyx statues done

the other statues are equal somehow

[crude sedge]

Deposit one with the other character and it should double

[foggy crater]

that's visual bug

[proud pumice]

then are statues account-wide now? i just need to do the 20k power statues once?

or is it a bug?

[foggy crater]

yes just once and account wide

[proud pumice]

i'm pretty sure on day one i read the quest to turn statue man into onyx statue is character bound but then after the statue man becomes onyx the onyx statues are account wide.

is that not the case then?

[raven vale]

It was more of a scenario where if you complete it on one character, but you drop or lose the chisel, you have to do it on another character

You'll do it on everyone for the free statues anyway, but is account wide as soon as you upgrade

[proud pumice]

oh ok

do you know why the value for power statues is different on my ES and my DK? DK, which is the one i turned the onyx tools to statue man shows +603 base damage but ES shows +340 base damage

[proud pumice]

oh

true

i thought it was related to onyx statues

[opaque sun]

the recent foundings with statue deposit was:
-Startue Exp bubble works fine even when leveling up at once.
-“deposit all” button works fine for those statues in storage with full onyx bonus
-“deposit all” button unfortunately deposits statues in character’s inventory by skipping onyx exp bonus

[frigid acorn]

see you next month

[pulsar vortex]

best place to farm statues other than beans? I need to onyx all the non bean ones

[opaque sun]

Bullseye: ES on woodmush
W2: DK on tysons
W3: DK on bloodbones
W3 mob specific ones: ES on those respective mobs
W4: DK on pearls
W5: DK on wurms/oj
Oceanman: whatever catching in w2
100k statues on an active suck class: candy on dreadlo ore

[nimble palm]

Thanks, that’s very helpful.

[signal crypt]

What's sometimes causing the time of my daily reset to drift?

[grand karma]

es lag usually

[opaque sun]

ES lag, but also like lag when minimizing game, lag from too many items due to inventory full and such

Going to player selection screen usually tends to resync to the correct time, but sometimes it perma shifts

Visiting companions map before resync seems to be a way to perma shift those time

[sharp wind]

Is doing bullseye statue better at wood mushroom rather than sticks?

[teal lynx]

You can check the Pins!
Short Answer: Trickz and other Endgamers say Active Woodmush is better, Nutto is better if you candy it

[opaque sun]

Woodmush has the best base drop chance, and ES ignores any bad mob layout

Afk takes into consideration of bad layouts, so nutto better since it has the second best base drop chance and comparable layout to sticks

Sticks not good for anything in terms of bullseye. The stick mob layout is not good enough to make up for the worst drop chance out of the 3

[night yoke]

Q for kruk keys farmers: how many keys do you get per day per char on wurms??
I need to do some dick measuring

[cursive forge]

well

that means I was right you cant get +2 at bronze

I wasted ~10frags before I knew it cant be rolled

you can only roll base stats & misc stat

[opaque sun]

Fancis basically answered the correct info after you left sadly

[spice frigate]

What's a good 10th character?

I have DK, BM, ES, BB, bubo, SB, journyman, squire, SB

[opaque sun]

second ES in that case

[spice frigate]

gen is saying BB, so i'm stuck between ES/BB lol

[opaque sun]

You already have 3 warriors. Not sure whats the idea with gen chat saying 4 warriors meta

[spice frigate]

i don't either, that's why I need a second opinion haha

[opaque sun]

Considering future possible class additions, 3 archers, 3 mages, 3 wars and a vman offers the most flexibility with whatever update lava makes

[spice frigate]

very good point, ty

[opaque sun]

And also issue with second BB is that it messes up with the super chow as the game is bugged to only look at one of the BB’s kill for super chow and ignore the other

[regal trail]

for some reason my account logged out of steam and now i lost ~ 2b dmg on all my characters. does anyone know what this is

[opaque sun]

Seems like it just crashed or soemthing. Losing 2b damage context depends on relative to what. Like losing 2b from a 20T is like whatever, but losing 2b from a previous 2.5b is a big issue

[regal trail]

i had 4.5b and now it is down to 2.5

on my other chars it went from 3 to 1.5

[raven vale]

check card sets, cards, talent sets?

[regal trail]

also reset all my other talent sets/cards but i still have the ones that were previously on active

[raven vale]

did lab break? Divinity links?

[opaque sun]

When on a failed logout like a critical application crash, you can lose presets if it goes hard and messes up your local save

[noble mesa]

If i swich from mobile to steam , its reset all talents and cards
So u need to pick them again

[opaque sun]

reconnecting lab, and setting up the presets again should get you back to where you were

[regal trail]

well looks like i just had to restart steam

weird

[maiden surge]

Hey guys. I just finished my statue grind, made all onyx and dumped huge (for me) amounts of statues, one by one.
After relogging I noticed that the statues don't get applied to my stats in the player info. Only after visiting the onyx dude again the stats get updated.
Do you know if this is only a visual bug or something else going on?

[opaque sun]

btw you can use the “deposit all” as long you dont have the statues in your inventory

If “deposit all” button from storage, you get full statue exp bonus from onyx and also from startue exp bubble

[maiden surge]

Mhh oke ty. I thought that deposit all wasn't giving the full x7 multiplier so I did them separately^^

[opaque sun]

Its bugged only if the statues was in character inventory, which skips onyx bonus

[maiden surge]

Ouh wow...

[opaque sun]

As for the stats not applying immediately, it should. But either way if you change map it should settle in.

But there was some weird behavior if you stay in the same map after leveling up statues multiple times, some doesnt get registered or so, which can happen when you deposit one by one for example

[maiden surge]

Left is after logging in, right after talking to the guy. When the statue interface openes, alle statues have their level up animation, going through all the levels. I already tried saving, closing the game. Still the same issue

I have to open the statue interface first. If I change the map before talking to him, the stats remain like after login

[maiden surge]

I verified with both IE and Toolbox that the levels got synced with the server

[opaque sun]

sounds like the first time hearing that behavior, so sorry cant really help you out with that

[maiden surge]

Alright, thanks for your time though 🙂

[timber viper]

maybe try and overwrite statue data by depositing 1 of each statue, then stay in the map for 2-3 minutes - then go to character selection screen to trigger cloud save again

[maiden surge]

I'll give it a try tthanks.

I just tested if it is a local issue, logged out on PC, wiped all IdleOn data on my phone, logged in and had the exact same issue

[acoustic marten]

yo guys i feel like ive read the exact opposite thing on here aswell. anyone wanna clear this up for me? skill good or baaad?

[maiden surge]

It depends on how many times per day you check in on your sailing

[opaque sun]

simply what the talent does is “you get full sailing exp for less chests overall”

Despite wording of upgrading chests and stuff, the main effect is just more exp for less loot (chests)

[maiden surge]

I mayed the talent at first, because I didn't see why it would be bad, even if I check in every 3-4 hours.
Once I tested it without the talent, I got so much more chests and therefore loot and artifact chances, if was quite the upgrade

[tacit kelp]

Does anyone have that refinery image?

[maiden surge]

But if you only ever log in once a day or so, the talent can give you better results

[acoustic marten]

ok, thats what im dong aswell, just got confused for a sec

[opaque sun]

Search infinite salt on discord and you will probably find it, but generally infinite salt is an old tactic that you shouldnt really follow any more

It was something when people thought salts would only go up to like 20-30 ranks

[gaunt shale]

any1 know what the colour of the eggs acctually mean ? i never payed attention to it, just, accepted that some skill is turning my eggs into other colours

but now a green one poped up, havent seen a green one before, so now I got curious what they actually mean, but wiki aint helping

https://i.imgur.com/BDVDFWn.png

[opaque sun]

Its a rarity in the same order of ores

[gaunt shale]

so, does it actually have some kind of effect ?

[opaque sun]

Its better than the void one

But doesnt have any unique effect specifically for being green

[teal lynx]

It gives you better breeding odds

[maiden surge]

It shows your eggs rarity. The more rare, the better chances for higher stat pets and chance fir unlocking new ones

[opaque sun]

Higher eggs gives more bonus for unlocking new pets, and also adds a bonus to the pet power it hatches from

[gaunt shale]

ah ok

[teal lynx]

It is the 4th or 5th upgrade in breeding iirc

[opaque sun]

you haven’t seen green before as its more rare than the void egg you have there

[sonic radish]

this is the worst timeline.

[gaunt shale]

good to know, honestly just ignored it for most part so far what colour they are

[opaque sun]

As said, the order of rarity is same as the mining ore tiers

[maiden surge]

I tried this with 4 statues. Killed a crystal from W1, deposited what I got. Now these statues are fixed. Thank you very much for this! 🙂

[dreamy rapids]

Does breeding different pets give the same amount of xp

Like will I get the same amount if I breed Gmush compare to Hedgehog?

Damn

[opaque sun]

but you get more exp based on the total number of unlocked pets

Just doesnt matter what pet you mass produce

[dreamy rapids]

I pretty finished breeding beside shinies so I kinda ended up stocking eggs

[little pagoda]

Really? That's great to know, I've mostly been ignoring unlocking new pets until higher level

If I farmed DNA for a bit I could probably unlock a few new ones

But I was waiting for level 50 to do that

[opaque sun]

yeah you want to unlock many as possible to level faster

[vagrant mountain]

i agree

[signal crypt]

My time has perma shifted by around 2h the last few weeks of active DKing. I always go to character select before closing the game. I'm afraid of it shifting even further >.<

[livid raft]

Almost there....

[sonic radish]

i was at level 17

[opaque sun]

keep going above 500 as 100% isnt the end of larry

[livid raft]

I'm going to 501 for 101% and stopping for now lol. I got lots of other bubbles to work on.

[sonic radish]

so am i dumb or is there a reason why my DK is getting 20B more eff in mining than BB i thought it was a coincidence but both are close to 20 mill higher

ive been tring to figure it out for like 20 min now

[opaque sun]

Because you have lot of bubbles to work on, the seemingly detour of getting 108% (90% of cap) is the shortest route

[opaque sun]

Probably talents. Few level difference of tab 1 efficiency and/or the tab 3 statue talent can make a lot of differnce

[sonic radish]

i meant to say B not mill, and all the talents are around the same

[opaque sun]

Well i cant really tell how “about the same” they are

Also maybe by off chance one is the same mining level as mman, losing the hands bonus or something

[dreamy rapids]

Lesson learned the hard way

I was 12

[signal crypt]

Can you elaborate on this?

[pearl quail]

wtf is this I want this

[teal lynx]

I think what they mean is - Going for 108% on larry now will be better, since your bubbles will sometimes upgrade 3 times instead of 2 essentially saving you 50% materials, Liquid. Those 8% will greatly help to improve your other Bubbles quicker

I personally went for 110% and the dopamin of getting a +3 is really nice

[signal crypt]

Mine is at 115% right now. The main point I didn't understand was the "90% of cap" but I just realized that 108/120 = 0.9 so now I understand

[teal lynx]

Oh that makes sense

[opaque sun]

yes you basically figured it out

Going over to 115% is nice, but getting at least 90% (108% chance) is relatively a still easy grab

[elfin cape]

Just wanna say that you should only really push larry into high levels with hourly clicks, as it would take a REALLY long time for it to be a net positive of levels

[safe harness]

are construction obols only while active?

[visual tangle]

I'm going insane trying to get this kruk cape drop. I've used up all my keys so am just working on farming more at tremor worms atm. These are my current stats- would I be getting more keys if I turn off Midas so I can hit a higher portal score?

[sacred verge]

use DK

afaik

[visual tangle]

I'm also trying to get my ES over 450 though so he can use the trophy once I get it

[signal osprey]

Well yeah turn midas off then

Using midas on ES is actually less loot overall in 99% of situations

[visual tangle]

I was not aware of that

midas is gone now, let's see how that helps the key farming (I imagine it will help XP gained a lot)

[granite grove]

midas on ES only works if you can one-tap all wormhole mobs for the whole duration

[visual tangle]

so not really useful until actually end game then

[granite grove]

which isnt possible with wurms at this stage yet ig unless if ppl can reach QQ dmg or sth

[visual tangle]

makes sense to me

[signal osprey]

Its not even close to possible even for the highest damage players in the game

It might not even be possible in W6

The damage thresholds required to basically max a portal are incredibly high

[visual tangle]

thats a nice amount of dmg lol

[signal osprey]

Most people cant even max out on W1 mobs yet lol

Wurms is gonna be awhile

[visual tangle]

I can apparently only get portal score up to 135-140 at worms

what would maxing out look like?

as in, what kind of score?

[signal osprey]

I would think close to 300? Not sure tbh as I cant do it 🤷‍♂️

I know I can get some W1 portals around 250 but even then I dont fully one shot for the entire portal duration

[visual tangle]

well that just means you have a goal to work towards lol

[signal osprey]

Eh I dont really care for more damage at this point

Not much value in it compared to working on other stuff

Plus I dont play ES anyway

[visual tangle]

what is it you are working on then?

[signal osprey]

RIght now I mostly statue farm

[sacred verge]

does anybody play ES willingly?

[signal osprey]

Although I'm thinking I might do some more GT soon

[pulsar heart]

my gt has been at 7100 for like 8 months now

[visual tangle]

so is that the end game grind? switching between dk for statue grinding and bubo for money/liquid?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

ES has no place as an active farmer in end game

Good afk gmush farmer though

[sacred verge]

farming w3 statues

😛

probably not worth it at all tho

[signal osprey]

Not even a little bit lol

[sacred verge]

but if one wanted to

[signal osprey]

If one wanted to you would candy them

[visual tangle]

vman samples are enough to overshadow active ER farming then?

[sacred verge]

true

[signal osprey]

If your goal is to get as much of a mob mat as you can in the shortest time possible no vman prints wouldnt be better than ES

But vman prints are still good enough to get a good amount of mob mats in a reasonable time

I only farmed like 2 or 3 vials on ES and I still have them all done with prints

[visual tangle]

I just got my snakeskin vial to 100% so no longer in a rush to active farm ES

[cerulean hemlock]

👋 Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening!

How's it going?

[visual tangle]

I'm realizing now that maybe there is no longer a need for me to active farm ES.... other than the fact that he just has my highest dmg right now

[signal osprey]

Thats not really a reason though unless you're still trying to push W5

[opaque sun]

vman printed mob item can probably 1b vial within the time it takes ES to 1b vial 2 items

[signal osprey]

As long as your characters can one shot mobs they have enough damage to active

Plus DK spends most of his time in worlds 1-3 so damage really doesnt matter at all

[visual tangle]

nope, just is nice to be able to kill nmare kruk in a few seconds

[cerulean hemlock]

Isn't raids a damage % source now?

[signal osprey]

Yeah but it resets weekly with the boss

[sacred verge]

what do you do with DK in w3?

[opaque sun]

ES will see action again when he farms 1b of w1 mob mats in 5 minutes

[signal osprey]

Bloodbones are the highest feasty per hour and they give gold cheese which is pretty useful too

[opaque sun]

He will come back for 5 min bubble clicks

like w6 or w7 ES will be crucial to super click quick slap

[visual tangle]

and that's mostly from dmg/mk, not DR right?

[opaque sun]

in a way both

[visual tangle]

that being super quick drop farming

[sacred verge]

hmm, is it really worth it to do bloodbones over beans just for feasty?

[opaque sun]

Like not now, but in the future when he got like 500QQ damage and 80x dr

[signal osprey]

Its mostly to get a good stockpile on the cheese and greenstack the W3 leaves while also getting good feasty

[pearl cedar]

Get a few gstacks too

[signal osprey]

Long term yeah youll do a lot more beans than bloodbones

[opaque sun]

But until then, ES combat hibernates until its his era again

[signal osprey]

Which is hopefully never

[visual tangle]

is ES helpful for pushing death note or are you better off just candying/afking with SB?

[opaque sun]

And during that era, DK will be the first go to farmer

[granite grove]

wormhole mobs dont count to DN so sadly no

[opaque sun]

basic rule of thumb is dont bother active just for deathnote

[signal osprey]

Even if they did youd candy it anyway

[pearl cedar]

DN should almost exclusively be candied

[signal osprey]

Anything that can be candied should be candied

Save your active time for things that have to be done actively

[opaque sun]

For w5 dn, you can suppliment active, but still should be done afk mostly

[visual tangle]

good advice

[opaque sun]

Things that can be done afk, should be done afk. Candy if possible

[pearl cedar]

Just shove afk dk on div

[granite grove]

just go standard dmg + afk + lv1 talents, nothing needed specific unless if sth like pushing div50 or lab75

[opaque sun]

Your active DK is basically your afk build

Like by w5 the only difference of afk combat build is spending in the afk gain tab 1 talent, which you are supposed to have enough talents to max it anyway

[pearl cedar]

Even more reason to shove afk into div

[granite grove]

if fresh w5 then top most absolute priority is to get bear

[opaque sun]

But being rushers, go back work on w1-w4 stuffs you skipped

[sacred verge]

golden bread worth using?

how does it add to coins?

[pearl cedar]

Better than nothing while money farming

[granite grove]

return to old stuff after getting bear god btw, nblb, x3 refinery, x2 kills, and x2 prints is a huge milestone for new players

[pulsar heart]

think somebody told me golden bread was bugged or smth before

[opaque sun]

gold bread is like okay, but need to use spresdsheets to notice the difference

[signal osprey]

It is bugged unfortunately

It gives 1/100 of the displayed value

[sacred verge]

damn

[pearl cedar]

Even if gold bread is bugged what other food would you replace it with on a money build

[signal osprey]

Still better than nothing as you dont need much on a bubo

But not worth going out of your way for

[sacred verge]

im playing DK

atm

just dosent matter if i use dmg food

[pearl cedar]

Same thing

[sacred verge]

no use for it

[opaque sun]

lava has tendency to apply a % on top of something that is already a %

[sacred verge]

lol

[signal osprey]

Maybe one day it will get fixed. Gold cheese was the same way up until a few patches ago

[opaque sun]

Like vman marrow too is applying a % twice

[cerulean hemlock]

So 100 bread would give?

[opaque sun]

Its percent of a pecent

[signal osprey]

That depends on your gold food effect

[cerulean hemlock]

This is Lava. If we pray hard enough, it'll get done on 6 months

[granite grove]

only if he goes back to do minor fix instead of 29172 UIs which he may eventually forget to update for future w6-w8 UI additions

[cerulean hemlock]

Presume for this example its 0% bonus

[opaque sun]

If say gold bread says it gives you 50% money, its actually giving 0.5% money

[sacred verge]

this is 47 breads, and if i got it right its 2%

[signal osprey]

That also assumes that I know how much money gold bread gives at 100 with 0% gold food

[coral goblet]

why even use bread if u get sooooo much from gmush

[sacred verge]

sorry 0.2

[cerulean hemlock]

Yeah no that's very sad

[signal osprey]

What else are you gonna put in your food slots?

[cerulean hemlock]

We spare gmush just a little bit

[opaque sun]

Well they are different multipliers

[cerulean hemlock]

Golden Cheese Nomwich

[opaque sun]

Its not like every sources are added to gmush %

[cerulean hemlock]

Golden Gummy Hampter

[sacred verge]

its no use

1 shots anyway

[cerulean hemlock]

What else. Golden Kebabs

[coral goblet]

would u recomend changing

[opaque sun]

2x multiplier is great when its added to a pool with no other buffs

[sacred verge]

still has open slots after kebabs and nowiches

[cerulean hemlock]

Speed pots 🙂

[sacred verge]

but i dont need more dmg or speed

[opaque sun]

A 100x multiplier sucks if its added to a pool of 500000.%

[cerulean hemlock]

The golden food that gives % shrine bonus ig

[sacred verge]

thats why i was asking

[opaque sun]

So “we have gmush why raise X” is a bad way of thinking

[pearl cedar]

Dont need hampters on active, damage multi from kebab worthless if you can 1hko without, hp not needed unless they're killing you

[coral goblet]

[opaque sun]

My active still uses g hampters cuz im lazy to switch it out when they go afk

[cerulean hemlock]

Dude likes balloons

[coral goblet]

@opaque sun facts

[sacred verge]

same

[fallen torrent]

Farming keys for w4 card

10bleft and its ruby card time

[cerulean hemlock]

We're all lazy

[fallen torrent]

10*

[pearl cedar]

Well yes, just saying there are 4 foods there that are easily replaced

[coral goblet]

what food would u say for beans farming then

[signal osprey]

Gold cheese is all you really need

[cerulean hemlock]

Woops wrong channel XD

[opaque sun]

Jam and red pots reads to me as “more mining” foods

Speed pots are the bread and butter

[signal osprey]

First 22 incoming

[opaque sun]

I cant remember the last time i used healing foods

[pearl cedar]

Hp and mana snapshotting is why people hate sampling. I don't do it cause the 1% gains not worth my sanity

[opaque sun]

HP kind of worth doing, but yeah MP is whatever

[signal osprey]

I do a basic one with cards and thats about it

[opaque sun]

We dont have much ablative MP sources anyway

[signal osprey]

I find it pretty easy to do after you've already bothered to set everything else up for a sample

[opaque sun]

Poor mp pots being regen instead of max

[pearl cedar]

Yeah cards is fine and boostfoods, but minmaxing obols and what not is just not worth the effort

[signal osprey]

Gotta swap to full troll sparkles and dont even think about forgetting the 4% stats in starsigns

[opaque sun]

Then mom reminds you if you checked your chips back at the lab

[visual tangle]

why is that not in quick ref

at least to see which ones you have on

[cerulean hemlock]

Since Dad went to get milk?

[opaque sun]

before lab quick ref, we need refinery quick ref, and real soon

[pearl cedar]

Then you finish sampling, and realize you had angel wings and not gold rose

[opaque sun]

Going back to w3 town to rank up gonna be an issue without quick ref

[signal osprey]

If I used angel wings then so be it

[pearl cedar]

Yeah was a bit more impactful when we had like 200% afk gains

Now I prob wouldnt care too much

[opaque sun]

ruck sack be like “oh you didnt notice me all along?”

[cerulean hemlock]

What's rucksack again? 😏

[zinc torrent]

Hi, what affects divinity xp gain. I'm trying to min max to get my guys to 25 fast

[visual tangle]

at least refinery doesn't have an effect on gameplay though. But it's gonna hurt if you forget to put on choco chip, the 15% afk bonus, card doublers, etc.

[pearl cedar]

I usually get half way done wondering my samples are meh, realize I didnt have skilled dimwit on

[opaque sun]

-afk gain for cap prayer

Once i had a brainfart sample of dim wit and the skill exp together

[opaque sun]

Dunno, i think hourly rank up does play big for gameplay if you ask me

[visual tangle]

hourly rank up? what am I missing? lol

[signal osprey]

Pretty much just a bubble, a stamp, and the tab 2 mage talent for specialized exp early on. Normal skill exp modifiers dont apply to div

[opaque sun]

Without quick ref refinery, you need to keep switching to town to rank it up

[pearl cedar]

Biggie hours card

[opaque sun]

currently people are like ranking up salts like once or twice a day

soon that will be hourly

[visual tangle]

what level are your salts?!?

[opaque sun]

Salt rank up requirement scales, but it caps at 1m

Mine is like 86 now

[visual tangle]

refinery speed is the limiting factor for me

[coral goblet]

ooo i didnt know it caps

[opaque sun]

The rate to rank up snowballs

[signal osprey]

Wouldnt be surprised if pancake and serimo were close to 250 now

[visual tangle]

my red is only at 25 lol

[opaque sun]

So that is why, quick ref refinery is gonna be crucial in few months

[crisp silo]

once my red salts hit like 25, it only takes a few weeks, down from months

[coral goblet]

yeah my reds at 24 so close to it

[pearl cedar]

Quick ref pobox when

[opaque sun]

You thought 1b salt vials impossible? Its actually near than you might think

[crisp silo]

just gotta click 1000 times

[cerulean hemlock]

Thought that read roblox 👀

[visual tangle]

😦

[crisp silo]

anyone know which one can be easily boosted?

[visual tangle]

now to cycle through toons hoping for an elephant proc so I can forget about refinery again

[crisp silo]

squire?

[visual tangle]

just did both :/

[crisp silo]

gold watch

idk if that actually works

[visual tangle]

the thought did cross my mind 😂

[crisp silo]

prob does

[signal osprey]

No it wont work

[opaque sun]

gold watch doesnt give afk hours

[visual tangle]

success

[opaque sun]

It just triggers the resets

[signal osprey]

Neither omni or the squire talent are daily reset mechanics

[static zinc]

IS THIS CANDY ABLE

[opaque sun]

Despite saying “watch” it does not affect time at all

[static zinc]

best setup?

[crisp silo]

anyways can someone help, idk how yall get 20x dr

[umbral tapir]

W2 statue farming is awwwwful. I'm at 12+ Dr on my dk and 1in35 crystal spawn.

I swear I'm getting 50 statues an hour at best (per statue type)

[opaque sun]

Go catch any bug in w2 and candy

[static zinc]

dr doest matter and cards?

or person?

[opaque sun]

dr, tool speed (catching food) and afk gain matters

[green eagle]

w1 and w2 statues threw themselves at me, sorry for your loss

[opaque sun]

Efficiency does not unless you really suck at catching

[potent gust]

I've a random question. I'm linked to Omniphau, and rn i'm upgrading my characters (worshipping etc).
However, every time i claim like 2 minutes of afk i get +1 hours (the proc of Omniphau)
It like really +1 hours cash even if I claim 2 minutes of ak ? Seems too crazy for me 😭

[umbral tapir]

We're you on pots like the guide said?

[crisp silo]

its 2 mins

[signal osprey]

Vman has highest DR and he has increased feasty effect for catching speed so he should be the best for it

[potent gust]

Way much more fair haha thanks ❤️

[green eagle]

pots? lol idk what guide you're refering to

the statue guide?

[opaque sun]

Omni just uses the UI minimum unit of hours

But its just visual

[potent gust]

So just visual, I thought so but I wanted to be sure at 100%

Since i had plans to switch a lot my characters in the few hours

[sinful aurora]

Its ridiculous rounding but yeah

[opaque sun]

Else we would be busy omni 2min and not talk here

[heavy moth]

tho it says 16...ish on IT

[crisp silo]

i have the 20% dr buff

so is all g

[umbral tapir]

Yeah in the pins. It says pots over Tyson. Where did you farm?

[green eagle]

oh sandy pots. yes i farmed there with my DK for about a day

you go to sandy pots because you get glass shards as well

[signal osprey]

Tysons is the highest statues per hour but sand pots is pretty close while also offering glass shards so its up to you really

Personally sand pots is the only one I would ever use

[heavy moth]

aight 😛 one that help and was a easy boost was the new stamps for sur

[green eagle]

if you are having trouble with w2 statues, i hate to tell you the personal hell that w3 statue farming is lol

[opaque sun]

but then again for statues you wont spend too long anyway for the glass to matter, so its really up to you

[green eagle]

i got roughly 750 glass shards during my stay there, i'm happy. my glass jar stamp was happy and hungry

[umbral tapir]

I've been here two weeks ifmt feels like (I can only afk for a few hours a day)

[green eagle]

TWO WEEKS

[umbral tapir]

I already have 1000 lol

[opaque sun]

There are many other occasions to DK farm glasses

[green eagle]

math ain't mathin or something how is your dk set up??

[umbral tapir]

https://ice_beaver.idleonefficiency.com

Ok, check my "Mininnguyyyy" and tell me I'm fucking it up

[green eagle]

i was getting roughly 1000 statues an hour or so

[opaque sun]

Two weeks sounds like farming on bb or something

[umbral tapir]

Ha nooo

[green eagle]

some of them were less

[sinful aurora]

3 days at sand castles did it for me. 2 weeks aint right.

[visual tangle]

did you finish bullseye?

[green eagle]

i've finished all of them

[opaque sun]

Like if no chocochip, lack of crystal chance, dr of 5x, then maybe yeah two weeks

[umbral tapir]

I have Choco, Dr at 12+, and crystal chance at 1in35

[visual tangle]

oh i misread thinking you said you were still working on w3

[opaque sun]

Dr a bit low, but still shouldn’t take two weeks

Orb talent level plays a big part in it too

[umbral tapir]

I guess I need to leave it running for like 8 hours straight....but I have to check it every hour or so because my obols overflow...

[dreamy rapids]

Is it possible to get 8 8 relic chain?

[green eagle]

filter them

[signal osprey]

Filter the obols

[opaque sun]

Duration of orb directly affects the gains

[green eagle]

yeah if you can book it, book orb some more

[umbral tapir]

Orb only has a 30 second gap, which should be closed in a few hours as I got the ancient statue for +talents yesterday

[green eagle]

you wanna stop at talent level 267 on orb

until you can get to over talent 300

[opaque sun]

gap means not even 267 so yeah thats hindering you a lot

[umbral tapir]

No, my orb is at 228, soon to be higher

So there's that a bit

[green eagle]

that tiny difference you are thinking adds up to hours of grinding after not too long man

[opaque sun]

30 levels below 267 is still a lot

[signal osprey]

Yeah its not a tiny difference at all. Thats a very big part of your problem

[opaque sun]

Like even a second besically means like one more batch of kills

[umbral tapir]

Ok, maybe that's the key. I'll be booking it later today and can reach 267 easy

[opaque sun]

which is like 10-20 kills

[umbral tapir]

Ok, thanks for talking me through this all.

[signal osprey]

Yeah your dr and crystal chance are a little on the low side but still good enough to farm crystals reasonably well. Its definitely the orb

[umbral tapir]

I knew I had missed somthing

I have a hard time pushing crystal chance up though. Bricks on stamps is in the multi billions so o can only add levels to it after a few days

With the reductions

[untold lintel]

wait what, with the elephant god, i can just wait 2min and claim a character and get an hour of time?

thats so broken

[signal osprey]

Its worth it though. Crystal chance is pretty much the strongest stat in the game

[umbral tapir]

And I have to wait until December for top left card doubler. 😦

[foggy briar]

you cant

[untold lintel]

i just did

[foggy briar]

you get 2min of time

[untold lintel]

no i got an hour

[foggy briar]

it shows 1 hour though

[untold lintel]

oh

[umbral tapir]

I'm pushing it, just once a week at best now.

[foggy briar]

yea

[foggy briar]

lava code moment

[visual tangle]

why should you stop leveling orb at 267?

[umbral tapir]

It's at 190 btw

[opaque sun]

The minimum visual unit is just 1 hr

Its still only giving 2 min

[green eagle]

it's okay, getting publicly ridiculed is how we learn! (most of us here anyways)

[signal osprey]

Yeah 190 is around the point where you need discounts but you can definitely squeeze out a few more upgrades

[lapis mesa]

Finally

[green eagle]

basically that is when your orb cooldown will roll over and it messes with your orb. you can reset your mana po box if you want to push it a bit higher, or you can wait until lvl 300+ orb which negates the problem

[opaque sun]

When orb cooldown becomes shorter than the duration, the ai casts next orb before the current orb is finished

[green eagle]

welcome to the snail club 🐌

now wait 3 more days for anything to happen at all

[opaque sun]

And issue is, when the first orb disappears, it resets the count on the second orb

[umbral tapir]

My anvils were slacking for awhile, so I've also been maxing speed on all characters to boost my brick production...

IVE ALSO FINISHED MY HAMPTER FARM FOR ALL BAGS YAAAAAAS

[visual tangle]

ahhh that's what I was missing

[swift pecan]

Somebody want to do me a favor and use my silver pens for me, my fingers are starting to hurt.

[opaque sun]

The effective time loss of orb is big when talent lv is around 280-290

[lapis mesa]

lmao nice! its ok, just glad to finally have it out of the way

[opaque sun]

By around 310, the pure duration becomes very slightly longer than the time lost

Once lava raises max book to like 350 or even 400, the orb overlap will be less of an issue

[signal osprey]

4 sec tent

[opaque sun]

Until then, 267 is the magic number where orb doesnt overlap

(Or 300, if intentionally taking off mana po box for maximum orb effect)

[green eagle]

ready for people to start saying bubo is worthless unless you have 4 sec tent?

[visual tangle]

that's very convenient

[opaque sun]

4 sec isnt much besides shorter cc cooldown

[signal osprey]

"I know my bubbles are level 7 but I really dont think I get much value from bubo yet because no fury"

[visual tangle]

not intentional in the slightest

[opaque sun]

Combat wise 3 sec pretty much perfected combat

Mean while we old people been bubo on floms on lv160

[signal osprey]

Yeah I might just be out of touch but I cant understand these new age idleon players 👴

[static zinc]

only getting 300 for ocan man statues

[opaque sun]

Back in my days, 70k seconds were end game numbers

[green eagle]

followed up with "here's my link to my IE https://no_alchemy_lowIQ.idleonefficiency.com/ can anyone tell me how to increase my damage???"

[opaque sun]

Doesnt link to your account

[visual tangle]

how many bricks are you guys getting per day/hour?

[signal osprey]

Read the url lol

[visual tangle]

I know I am way behind but trying to get an idea of how much

[opaque sun]

oh sorry, someone yesterday posted their invalid url so thought was the same type of guy

[signal osprey]

I'm currently getting close to 3m per hour using 1 production slot on 9 characters but I'm probably not the best person to base your progress off of

[visual tangle]

I'm pretty close to that

[green eagle]

hmm i am lower than others but my SB pulls ~7m every 3-4 hours

[visual tangle]

ok so I have a lot of fixing to do

[signal osprey]

Hammer bubble

[celest scroll]

does %skill exp + affect divinity xp from mantra

[visual tangle]

all bubbles!

[green eagle]

the other 9 guys make 1m per hour

[visual tangle]

I guess you do need to level them too lol

[green eagle]

but currently i'm working on nails because i'm working on that vial

so i'm slowing down my crystal stamp pushing power

😥

[signal osprey]

I'm doing 1x bricks and 2x chains and it produces them in equal amounts that way

[opaque sun]

Any “all skill” stuff dont apply to div

[green eagle]

what are chains used for again? can't remember off the top of my head

[signal osprey]

Just leveling the mining/chopping exp bubbles to push off of nblb because not really sure what to do with production mats anymore

[static zinc]

pog

[untold lintel]

9d is wild

[static zinc]

cos candy

[green eagle]

9 2/3d cosmic candy i assume? nice!

only 9268 oceanmans though 😦

[static zinc]

5

[signal osprey]

One day I'll get a cosmic bigger than a day

[green eagle]

my cosmic sit in my bank vault as i don't have anything "major" enough that i want to use them for lol

[static zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/cartman-now-we-can-finally-play-the-game-gif-26486523

[green eagle]

and the fact that when i do i get like 9 hours almost every time

[opaque sun]

1000 statues for 24 hrs? Seems rough

[signal osprey]

Cosmics are for the gmush gamba

[opaque sun]

Or fractal for the recent one

[signal osprey]

Yeah but even if you roll a 500 you get no value

[static zinc]

lul forgpt about this

[opaque sun]

Fractal buffs sucks for now, but its okay for later when lava adds new artifacts and/or dungeon items

[green eagle]

i wanna see a fat nugget roll soon

[green eagle]

time to buy a new island

[signal osprey]

I dont even click it anymore

Not worth it

[zinc torrent]

For the purposes of farming cards, does drop chance = card drop chance? So if I had a higher drop chance card I could equip it over a card drop chance card

[opaque sun]

drop chance * card drop chance basically

[echo remnant]

does anyone have a good tower defense guide with examples on how to beat certain stages?

[zinc torrent]

Did you mean =?

[opaque sun]

so you want both, if beween one or the other, card chance tends to impact more

[solid goblet]

What should I buy?

[opaque sun]

And also you can snapshot card chance cards

[zinc torrent]

Oh how do I do that

[opaque sun]

Enter zone with full card drop set, change to full drop rate set and start farming (or use candy)

[green eagle]

on 13m/100m on the lonely nutto grind on bb atm

[opaque sun]

Card drop chance are fixed upon map entry

[green eagle]

ahem

SEA SALT

[green eagle]

the next one will be the big pay day, i promise

[signal osprey]

The main reason I dont click is actually because it just makes chem cycles so much better

[solid goblet]

Sea salt is only useful for w6, right? Aren't we 2+ months away from that?

[opaque sun]

Trash > seasalt/shimmer > crystal/rando > fractal
Are like the current common order of islands

[signal osprey]

Not waiting for the stupid shovel animation and then the unnecessary lockout between uses speeds up the process by a lot

[opaque sun]

“/“ means you can swap order depending on your preference

[untold lintel]

hella exp and the new fish there have good cards

[signal osprey]

Gaming got way less tedious when I stopped shoveling

[solid goblet]

Alright then sea salt it is

Thanks

[opaque sun]

Also 10% more bottle by finishing omar quest

[green eagle]

sea salt was my 2nd island purchase

shimmer is aight

but i wanted them fishing GAINS

my vman is enjoying a lovely fishing level of 130 atm

[opaque sun]

And it will really suck when lava like announces “w6 next week” and you havent unlocked seasalt and next unlock is 2 mo. later

[green eagle]

he never has to worry about fishing again (at least until trapping catches up)

[graceful bramble]

Where can i see my atom generation per hour in IE? Cannot seem to find it

[untold lintel]

check IT

[polar leaf]

what are the new bribes?

[opaque sun]

Wiki has the list

[little pagoda]

I don't think it takes that long for any island except for the last one

[graceful bramble]

IT?

[sick sentinel]

!it

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo#2331

[sick sentinel]

diff style IE has some nice dif features

[opaque sun]

For people who have the idea of “its w6 fishes anyway” would likely to kept seasalt for last

[green eagle]

unlocking all the islands takes roughly 6 months

[little pagoda]

Yeah but it takes less than half than that for all but the 2 last ones

[green eagle]

and if you have the mentality of "w6 no here, who care" then you won't have it

[graceful bramble]

Maybe i am blind and I am not seeing my atom per hour?

[green eagle]

yes and he is currently talking about buying his 4th island with his choices being Rando, Seasalt, and fractal. if he doesn't get seasalt as his 4th, it will be 1 month+ until he can unlock his 5th island

[sick sentinel]

go to printer

then on the top it says

[graceful bramble]

I see, thanks mate

758 daily sheeeesh, those are rookie numbers

[sick sentinel]

gotta start somewhere

[little pagoda]

Yeah true, plus seasalt is better than the other options anyway. But unless someone leaves seasalt for last it will be unlocked before w6

[sick sentinel]

thats the whole conversation lol

[little pagoda]

Even the last one maybe, depends on when w6 comes of course

[green eagle]

we have no idea when w6 will be here. all we know is lava is working on it. it could literally be in a month and none but the beta testers will know

[little pagoda]

tbh even if the fishes were literally useless in w6 seasalt would still be better for the fishing xp and cards anyway

[green eagle]

yes

[sick sentinel]

i need to take all my chars fishing, some are still chillin in the 40s lol

[green eagle]

♻️

(that is how i felt that conversation went)

[steady beacon]

So I've unlocked all meals at this point, and leveled them all to 11. I've gotten most of the early dishes to ~20 or so. I'm also sitting on 1500 ladles. What do late-game players focus on from here? spread it out equally? or pick specific meals and push them as high as they can go?

[green eagle]

you haven't joined the royal total level 1000 fisherman club yet?! and you have access to seasalt? book your deepsea fishing tickets now

[green eagle]

you are at the beginning of mid game cooking atm. no point in asking about late game cooking lol

[steady beacon]

midgame then!

[green eagle]

you still need to get plates to 30+ for the atom

[foggy briar]

More meals = more cooking speed because of vman

[sick sentinel]

[foggy briar]

So leveling all of them is important

[steady beacon]

ok, so aim for 30 on every plate then?

[foggy briar]

even the ones that are useless

[graceful bramble]

Mannnnn, so close

[sick sentinel]

damn thats a good one tho

[foggy briar]

Just try to get what you want the most, and level up the ones that are left behind when they get cheap

[little pagoda]

Cost scales pretty quick so there's no point in focusing, you will level up all meals as they become reachable

[green eagle]

grandpa needs to show grandma a thing or two about rods

[foggy briar]

Mine is like this rn, i am probably gonna skip croissant till it costs 10 laddles

[green eagle]

unless he has it already

[sick sentinel]

trading soon amaright

[little pagoda]

Brute forcing with ladles isn't really a thing until maybe you have a million or something, and even then better to spread them between meals

[graceful bramble]

Oh i thought it was 25+ talent points i can use, instead it adds +25 levels to all skills, damm thats nice

[steady beacon]

yeah, but no point in sitting on 1500 ladles, right? Might as well use them for now?

[heavy moth]

sp many rams 😮

[green eagle]

🌋

[little pagoda]

If you have enough cooking speed to cook your meals, sure, but try to spend them on the cheapest ones since total meal level is important

[graceful bramble]

I cannot get rid of em smh

[little pagoda]

You could always save ladles unti you get better cooking speed though, if you have important unlocks to for cooking speed still

[heavy moth]

ahaha better than my army of beans and sheepie 😛

[steady beacon]

I desperately want a sheepie, so I can stop playing switch-a-bubble on all my guys.

[livid roost]

How many def/hp i need to bubo on tremors ? Crystals kills me i have 17k health for 4,8k def now

[steady beacon]

and doot, obviously, but we don't talk about Doot, no, no, no.

[green eagle]

i'm starting to get hindered by the fact the last cooking artifact won't drop it's eldritch form

[steady beacon]

wow. that's stupidly high. Well done!

[sick sentinel]

i think 30k health, about 6k defense or so

[foggy briar]

havent gotten eldritch yet, I am stuck in rift lv 23 or something

[livid roost]

That’s a big up to do

[green eagle]

it can, and it will get much higher so high

[foggy briar]

I am missing a lot of damage because of artifacts

[livid roost]

Better to first book defense talent or hp talent on tab 1 ?

[sick sentinel]

por que no los dos?

idk tho

[foggy briar]

my boat speed is also terrible rn

not sure why

[livid roost]

Dont have 40 books lol

[sick sentinel]

i'd say defense first

[livid roost]

Ok i try smth w8 a minut

[little pagoda]

There's a lot of sources for it, statue is good now with onyx, both passive cards help, tiger god with high divinity xp and big P bubble, sailing speed bubble, and also good to go back to first islands to farm materials for more speed

And all minor blessings for fishing speed

[true obsidian]

uhm...it doesn't show exp so can i ask which will give me most exp? it for my vman

[little pagoda]

probably sticky souls but check IE

squishy souls, whatever lol

The soda one

[true obsidian]

id didn't see soul exp in IE

[little pagoda]

It shows souls per charge somewhere

uh, xp per charge, sorry

[pearl cedar]

Squishy souls will be best xp

[steady beacon]

it's under totems, I think.

[true obsidian]

thanks you guy

[foggy briar]

Hmm, my kattle card is only lv 0 and the crawler one is lv 2, tiger is like lv40/100. Big P is lv65 and sailing is lv78

I did farm the early islands though, all my early boats have at least 90 base speed

[little pagoda]

statue is pretty good too

and speed captains are kinda needed I think, for later islands anyway

[foggy briar]

Havent even gotten the 20k power statues

[fervent brook]

I finally got everyone to worship 100+ I am free

[little pagoda]

Captains are the biggest buff but they're kinda hard to get a good one on all ships, takes time

[foggy briar]

Yea, I have gotten some pretty bad rolls on new captains, last good one I got was this guy 3 weeks ago

[true obsidian]

this actually bad...

[foggy briar]

So they have been terrible terrible rolls then

[pearl cedar]

Speed is good early on, later it is pretty much worthless other than future island prepping

[celest scroll]

waiting for divinity lvl 25 with mantra on all characters is super boring. since +skill exp % doesnt help, is there anyway to speed it up?

[pearl cedar]

Not really. Biggie for double exp procs but that's about it

[livid roost]

Ok got 6k def with cards and 20k hp with talents , maybe good for tremors on bubo

Nice , now the crystals only 3 shot me

[foggy briar]

even with food?

[mighty harbor]

Can anyone tell me how I can get my Plants in gaming up to the next growth cycle? I'm able to get up to 6 but I've been at it for weeks without it increasing.

[livid roost]

Yes

[fading cape]

There is no trick. Fast growth cycle speed, high evolution chance. I'm surprised you got to Tier 6. The average for that is months and months

[livid roost]

The 2 foods from w5 shop

[autumn wasp]

is the brightside DR card better for this?

[cerulean hemlock]

Pretty sure yes

[green eagle]

well at least you're playing aura bubo and so you should be outhealing their dmg

[true obsidian]

Party Lv20 really cray buff