lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[cursive forge]

breedability modifier only increase when you use the corresponding pets right?

so like this it will only increase gigafrog crabcake and planks multiplier right

[opaque sun]

not sure why you would want to raise breed ability of pets you done unlocking, but yes

[green eagle]

he's starting on his trillion year journey for the achievement

the headband is taunting me, wanting me to save trophies to complete it's place on the slab

[opaque sun]

not going to get it this week anyway

[noble mesa]

And so the gold pocketwatch

[teal lynx]

33 Pocketwatches or +1 Slab

Definitely very tempting haha

[opaque sun]

Watch like a code digger finds the schedule and next bandana rotation is in 2077

[noble mesa]

Its +1 slab to

[midnight pebble]

no cape today but 6th neck and finally enough obols to have one one each char personal and enough for family

4/6/12 after about 280 nightmare clears

[sacred verge]

time for me aswell to spend some keys soon

[formal minnow]

Whos the best character to complete the "gather 3 rift tears in 60 minutes"? What droptable is the rift tear considered as?

[midnight pebble]

i did bubos/dks

[serene kiln]

What damage do you need for nightmare krunk and no mole heals

[paper sail]

ES is best for that thanks to Wormholes giving big DR increases. Bubo and DK are also fine options due to fast respawns.

[heavy moth]

what am i misssing for a good 20 mil, i feel like my afk rate is low

[heavy moth]

what class

[tacit tulip]

If you just want the clear, no nope heal nightmare can be done super easily using DK and ES

[paper sail]

Respawn and AFK, yeah. 340% is kinda "normal" for non-dooters

[tacit tulip]

As the splash damage means the moles never get near

[heavy moth]

and i got doot :/

[paper sail]

welp

Time to referr tooooooo

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1144747572280438874

[signal osprey]

340% is good. Without doot thats pretty hard to get to

I think I have like 290% or something on my SB normally

[paper sail]

The chart lists ~400% as max so still a little bit you can squeeze out

but that also includes 20% from the Master of Nothing trophy that nobody has so 😂

[heavy moth]

with kruk obol im at 370

[signal osprey]

It also uses double afk chains instead of respawn

And it doubles boop which is worse than another respawn chip

400% afk is a meme setup for combat. You'll get more kph at like 350% in a proper setup

[paper sail]

True. Some odd choices

[heavy moth]

so to get 20 mil gmush per hour my only hope is qs ?

[surreal oxide]

whats qs

[signal osprey]

I think you're missing some multikill somewhere

[fervent brook]

anyone else just hoarding golden stopwatches to use later?

[signal osprey]

Thats the same damage tier my SB is at and he has like 32k% or so

[signal osprey]

Quick slap

[heavy moth]

ohh thats 4k more

[haughty sedge]

When is w6 coming out?! 😭

[tacit tulip]

3k MK% missing at tier 44 = about 68 MK/T missing, that's a lot

Only thing to that scale that would be obviously missing is like, severely lower vman buff for MK?

[paper sail]

I forget that talent scales off of Vman portals I don't wanna speedrun

[sacred monolith]

Any general tips/strategy?

[heavy moth]

no idea if thats low

[tacit tulip]

It is

[heavy moth]

talents not maxed tho

[paper sail]

I have shit damage and mine is 51 without Doot. You could surely do better

[tacit tulip]

I hit higher than that first week, and my vman damage was like 1b

[signal osprey]

A little but not enough to be the full difference. I think mine is like 100% per tier

[paper sail]

That's a good chunk. I think I only get ~78%, so 22% per tier

[heavy moth]

yea used my run for sampling i could redo a speedrun to aim higher

[tacit tulip]

with max talent, I'd get that book tbh

[signal osprey]

Okay nevermind mine is 121 per tier

Maybe thats the issue lol

[heavy moth]

lol yea just booked it now i need to get more point

[paper sail]

I must be misremembering lol

[heavy moth]

yea that helped

[feral whale]

what card set is best or at list very good on skilling if i have already rift mastery to passive skilling cards

[paper sail]

Sub the Wisdom cards for whatever is skill appropriate. For Worship, obviously AFK doesn't help so use Food Effect and more Wisdom

If you're not sampling, you can also sub in Card Drop or regular Drop Rate

[cerulean hemlock]

No ruby worm 🙂 Aren't you endgame?

[paper sail]

W4 cards suck 😦 Already eclipsed, I'm not card farming a few base stats

[signal osprey]

Whats endgame?

[feral whale]

i dont have the 6's card yet i change this card and wishdoms to card drop, thx

[cerulean hemlock]

No idea 🤷 The definition changes everyday

[signal osprey]

Well if its getting all the cards to 5* then I'll pass

[fading cape]

You mean level 6?

[signal osprey]

Midgame is good enough for me

[cerulean hemlock]

Ark did all Dreadlo I think

[cerulean hemlock]

You're obviously endgame

I'm very early lategame

[fading cape]

wow. Rude

[signal osprey]

I identify as a midgamer

[cerulean hemlock]

I'm hoping that was a joke

[fading cape]

it is

[green eagle]

you can reset to your first character if you choose 9 attacks/buffs in a row, or at least 2 misc choices will reset you to first character as well. obviously misc is easier, but you also have to hope the reset comes up. getting at least 2 resets during a run will probably almost guarantee you finishing it

[cerulean hemlock]

phew Sometimes people are serious and idk when and why, so I end up insulting them

[feral whale]

i identify myself as "i dont think i would be endgame never with new update"

[paper sail]

I like to say I'm starting lategame but I guess not lmao

[cerulean hemlock]

I guess I'm uhhh

What game am I? Am I just game?

[fading cape]

text is hard. lol. plus different coloquals and joke styles. I'm always on the cusp of being a dick by accident

[cerulean hemlock]

What is the meaning of endgame

[cerulean hemlock]

When petcomps came out and I said it was Lava's choice to add updates and I was neutral Some dude called me a, and excuse my quote, ""dickhead"

[paper sail]

To me, it means you're out of "directed" tasks to do and have to make up your own.

[cerulean hemlock]

That's never then 😦

CC is always there

ever knowing

Ever present

Oooh imagine we get prsents for xmas

[paper sail]

There is no achievement or task saying "Get X liquid rate/cap". That's self chosen.

[cerulean hemlock]

True.

Although we all know an endgame rq is GT level 10k at least

[paper sail]

Endgame is Beans, exp doesn't matter

My DK has been 525 for months now

[cerulean hemlock]

Does he do gaming?

Or does he just cross his legs forever

[paper sail]

He sits on altar while others do active stuff, cc and ccd, because altar doesn't care about his 2% afk gains

[cerulean hemlock]

Sadness

[lavish cloak]

[old portal]

for SB what obols do you guys use? agi obols or Mk obols?

[paper sail]

[lavish cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/so-let-it-be-written-moses-so-let-it-be-done-gif-12197331

[cerulean hemlock]

Thought that was a bubble for 5 seconds

[cerulean hemlock]

That's a very old movie I recognize.

I feel old now.

[lavish cloak]

@signal osprey you publicly share your IE? i'm at my limit with Dot's and Rokkis' now that they quit for comparison

[old portal]

wait why did both of them quit?

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep!

[cerulean hemlock]

YOU'VE BEEN IN THIS SERVER LONGER THAN ME?

[old portal]

yeah?

[cerulean hemlock]

ˢᵘᶜᵏˢ ᵗᵒ ˢᵘᶜᵏ

[lavish cloak]

the dootening was a big decision on Lavaflame's part. not everyone kept playing when that rolled out.

[cerulean hemlock]

Ikr, I took a break. In fact, I'm still in that break

[old portal]

aight i see doot is like money gated when everything else is obtainable by playing the game

ive been taking break from time to time ever since i played 2 years ago

[cerulean hemlock]

Me too ❤️ Remember when W2 was new?

[old portal]

yeah it was the grind

farming those snelbie with hunter

[cerulean hemlock]

Hunter best class

I miss those times.

[untold lintel]

https://don69s.idleonefficiency.com/ what should I be working on? im honestly at a stand still about a month into w5, right now ive got about 6-7 chars in lab on goat doing div/lab, and got 3 of my characters working on pushing up to lvl 250-300 (i already got my boss keys I dont wanna hear it)

[signal osprey]

https://weebgasm.idleonefficiency.com/

[paper sail]

I originally started on Mobile. Only made 2 characters, quit after probably just an hour of playing. Then came back a year later when the Steam version was out

[cerulean hemlock]

Why type number 😭

[paper sail]

and now you can't get rid of me

[signal osprey]

[cerulean hemlock]

No one gets rid of me too!

[untold lintel]

?

[cerulean hemlock]

But they sure can get rid of my sanity

[cerulean hemlock]

Idk, just feel like "69" is used too much

[untold lintel]

i 69 though

thats why my names don69s, its always been that

[cerulean hemlock]

👍

[untold lintel]

pretty straight forward, your names AAAAAAA, and unless youre scared and screaming 24/7 its not fitting

[cerulean hemlock]

I think people like 69 just because of its meaning

[untold lintel]

have you 69'd?

[cerulean hemlock]

Before I understood what it meant 🤣

[old portal]

ooo 140 min is an atom everything spot nicee

[untold lintel]

english

[cerulean hemlock]

Printing cycle is worth 140 minutes worth of atoms?

[old portal]

140 nblb min

i can actually make better nblb now

or maybe in a week worth of atoming bubbles

[heavy moth]

goodlord those bubble levels 😮 ahah

[signal osprey]

I started hourly clicking many months ago and never stopped

[uneven violet]

why is everyone big typing

good job for reminding me big typing exists

[cerulean hemlock]

Just you. only you.

[uneven violet]

What

[cerulean hemlock]

Never mind.

[old portal]

big trapping bubble is linear %?

i hourly clicks 4 bubbles not a bad start i guess

[cerulean hemlock]

Zockie you got a pog UI yet?

[old portal]

whats that

[cerulean hemlock]

UI aka the thing in raids, like the rift one

[old portal]

nope idc about those UI

lol

[devout moth]

Is there a guide on what I should be focusing on for pet breeding? the ones I found were taken down because of doot

[cerulean hemlock]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[old portal]

w4 pins should have em

[devout moth]

ah my bad, i was looking at the wrong world pins

[misty spindle]

Is the gold stopwatch an item you can use or does it just do it immidietly when you buy it?

[signal osprey]

Item

[old portal]

whats the pink bandana stats?

also iam 100 gems short for the free wings too lazy to do bosses and arena

[misty spindle]

there are free wings?

[old portal]

1150 gems

[high owl]

Every boss drops wings

[misty spindle]

how is that free

[tiny dome]

Do the moles get stronger in higher difficulties of the boss fight?

I'm one shotting them easy in chaotic, but don't want to waste keys if they get crazy in nightmare

[tacit tulip]

nah they're just moles

there's more OF them though

[willow drum]

gems are farmable so gems are kinda free

[tiny dome]

Not a problem for a DK lol

[errant sluice]

does the picture from gem contest need to be on the first character?

or can it be any character

[sacred verge]

what is this big typing, lol

and how do you do it

[paper sail]

https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/210298617-Markdown-Text-101-Chat-Formatting-Bold-Italic-Underline-

https://tenor.com/view/louise-belcher-bobsburgers-evil-laugh-gif-6102008

[sacred verge]

i did not get that to work

lol

[agile obsidian]

lmao

[sacred verge]

😿

[agile obsidian]

You need to put a space betweed # and your text

[sacred verge]

alright

thanks mate, you saved my day

[agile obsidian]

no problem

[sacred verge]

❤️

at the stage of gaming more or less done, should i have kitsune on or off?

[signal osprey]

Thats really up to you and how often you wanna check gaming but most people just leave it off

[sacred verge]

ty

[sick sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[paper sail]

So you're saying we'll both be on 15 tomorrow

[signal osprey]

I yolo'd mine to 20 so surely you can too. Thats definitely how that works

[sick sentinel]

i aint touching it for a whiiile lol

[compact saddle]

hello, any tips to advance faster through levels on w5 as blood berserker?

thanks

[random saddle]

Im sick of omniphau what god should go for steady grow?

[hidden sphinx]

How does the health of portal mobs scale? Tryna work out the dmg needed for me to get rift 44

[random saddle]

Goat then sample then change to hare?

[signal osprey]

Hare on some mages and warriors for atoms and then omnis

[paper sail]

Omni hater, checking in. My ES is main linked to Harriep, then double links to Bear while Combat AFK or Omni while lab afk. Just feels like crappola to get 48hr gaming progress.

[hidden sphinx]

If I need to reach wormhole 60 does that mean I need to kill a mob with 60x the base mob hp?

[paper sail]

I thought the HP only went up when the size went up, which is every "few" mobs not every single mob. I could easily be wrong though.

[lavish cloak]

is there a guide to the boss Battles?

[hidden sphinx]

Idk I’m not sure how to work it out either. Wiki has nothing I could find about wormhole mob hp

I just really wanna unlock the ability to farm ruby cards

But my dmg is still very low

[hidden sphinx]

The ones brought in the update?

[paper sail]

If you're working on the last ES rift before Ruby Cards, I think 100 - 130b was the target damage range needed

[hidden sphinx]

Fuck I’m like 33x of the minimum lol

[lavish cloak]

we know anything yet?

[paper sail]

I haven't seen any spreadsheet or anything, since all the values scale based on your individual skill levels

and each boss is different skills

[hidden sphinx]

Nah I mean the ones brought into w2

[paper sail]

A lot of info to compile

[hidden sphinx]

I just beat boombox tho

[lavish cloak]

yeah. i only get 2 tries, and i flubbed last week, so i'm looking for more info

[hidden sphinx]

I just stacked buffs to get rewinds from attack skills and buff skills

Ended with -24439 hp on the gravestone

Is the trophy shop personal or is it similar to chip shop?

[paper sail]

I believe it is the same for everyone, like the lab shop yeah

[hidden sphinx]

999 for pink headband

Least you don’t have to wait in lavas stream for ages

[paper sail]

an entire month of gold stopwatches for +1slab and a ugly hat

[hidden sphinx]

Wdym an entire month?

[paper sail]

Stopwatch costs 30 I believe

[hidden sphinx]

As in you’d have to use a months worth of gold stopwatches just to get the trophy?

Yeah it was

Just bought it for slab

[paper sail]

Yeah, 999 trophies is ~33.3 stopwatches

So you can have a hat, or you can have +33 days

[hidden sphinx]

I wonder if the gold stopwatch works with active players as well

Or if it’s just afk candy for the account

[paper sail]

It's not like AFK candy - it doesn't move time forward. It simply triggers a daily reset.

[hidden sphinx]

Ahhh

I thought it moved time forward

I can’t understand what I read obviously

[signal osprey]

I just can't read

[hidden sphinx]

Jared?

[paper sail]

So like..
No anvil, worship charge, combat afk gains, skill afk gains, no cooking progress, no breeding eggs..

Yes to things like daily Boss Keys, colo tickets, Dr Def and Boops respawn, NBLB procs + the atom lets you upgrade more bubbles, gilded stamp, the atom discount for stamps, Island Bottles, trash island gets trash, crystal island gets spawns

[hidden sphinx]

Fairs

Would need to be more expensive if it was a 24 hour fast forward

[lavish cloak]

thanks TC. maybe i'll be your rival 3 weeks into w6 😄

[hidden sphinx]

For a 1/10 drop rate, casual confidante is taking a long time to greenstack, longer than it feels like it should

[jagged olive]

I don't suppose there's a real strat to maximize plunderous mob kills besides the Vman boost?

[hidden sphinx]

Doubt it, if you’re going for the achievement then pretty sure it’s just 3 months active in total

No changing that

[jagged olive]

that's fair enough I spose 😄

[hidden sphinx]

For 1% dmg it’s probably not worth it yet

For me I doubt it’ll be worth it until post w6

[paper sail]

I believe last I heard Citringes are the fastest map for SB Plunder Kill farming, though Tremors aren't too far behind and also give keys 🤷

[jagged olive]

O I'm not doing it for the achievement, just feel like activing my SB for a while and figured if there was an ideal way to do it I should

[hidden sphinx]

Hold on

You acc want to go on a SB?

And active?

Mental

[paper sail]

Cannon go brrrr

[glossy rain]

how do you guys farm bars? it feels like it is only timegated...

[jagged olive]

yeah, I've been bubo for a while and just feel like a change

[hidden sphinx]

Afk an archer at gmush

Gotta check every hour

[paper sail]

Archer + 1hr candies. Alternatively, you can cycle through multiple archers back and forth every 2 minutes but you'll want to commit sudoku

[hidden sphinx]

For some reason the talent only counts the first hour

[paper sail]

The talent counts the whole time. The issue is that the Ore Capacity in the Forge is fucking so it only takes ~200k kills to full smelt everything

[hidden sphinx]

Oh? Is it fine for normal afk but only counts an hour for candies

Griffy made a short that said it only counts an hours worth of kills no matter the candy used, as in it was coded that way not that forge capacity made it that way

[paper sail]

Griffy is wrong lol

[hidden sphinx]

Fairs

Must’ve seen people say it’s not worth using anything higher than 1hr candies and then made the assumption it was cause it only counted an hours worth lol

[paper sail]

Sometimes we try to oversimplify how things really work because it takes less words.

[weary sonnet]

Guys! What does the "total damage" depend on?
It's just that I have huge percentages, and the damage grows slightly. For example, there was 233 million damage, + 50% total damage and it became 266 million.

[hidden sphinx]

Yeah I get that, a content creator should at least try to understand it more tho

[sick sentinel]

in the end griffy is also just some guy playing the same game

[hidden sphinx]

I wish god and 13jhrohr hadn’t left, they always went hella in depth

[paper sail]

I'd bet he DOES understand it, just that.. he wanted to make a 5 second clip

[sick sentinel]

many damage sources are additive to eachother. total dmg is a big culprit of that so most of the time its not as big as hoped

[hidden sphinx]

Maybe, you’d hope but he explicitly said that it would only count 1 hours worth of time candy for the forge, and also said in the clip that it can help early players

[paper sail]

Ah, well. Now you know the truth

[hidden sphinx]

Yeah that is helpful

[paper sail]

tbh Jhrohr never went in-depth ENOUGH for me in his videos. He'd get to the juicy bit and then say "I don't want to bore you with the math, just trust me" and D:

[hidden sphinx]

I still don’t understand why lava chose to make yondergreen afk quests none candiable

[hidden sphinx]

That’s fair, he went in-depth enough for me to be a bit more than casual but not enough to make me overwhelmed or feel stupidly inefficient (by my lack of knowledge)

[signal osprey]

I'm not even sure if he knows why he did it

[hidden sphinx]

I think he just wanted to be mean

He’s the only npc in w3 I haven’t got the token for

And I’ve got 10 of every other w3 npc

[weary sonnet]

Guys, to what numbers it is possible and best to improve the cauldron, show on the example of your cauldrons.

[hidden sphinx]

Cap for cauldron boosts is 170

I pushed speed and 2x extra up to 170 first then finished the other boosts

[weary sonnet]

Seriously 170 maximum? I thought there was no end.

[paper sail]

Seriously, 170.

[hidden sphinx]

It’s the max, it might increase at w6 update

[weary sonnet]

Wow

[misty spindle]

Cant you unlock w6,w7 bubbles even tho they dont exist?

[heavy moth]

yea you can

[weary sonnet]

Thank you very much to both of you for the detailed answer!

[paper sail]

Has nothing to do with Boost maxes, but yes

[mild merlin]

Yeah even up to last w8 bubble

[misty spindle]

I just see you have a lot of unspent points, so in case you didnt know somehow

[paper sail]

I already unlocked w6 bubbles so called it good 👍 Rather work on Sigils now

[hidden sphinx]

May as well do sigils if you got w6 bubbles unlocked atm

[tardy falcon]

So cool

[hidden sphinx]

You didn’t buy the stopwatch?

[misty spindle]

https://stefan5.idleonefficiency.com can you guys tell me what I should be working on rn? Ive been trying to get more pets recently, im 3 days away from tiger god and have been slowly unfucking my refinery, whats next tho

[paper sail]

Soon

[hidden sphinx]

You can’t unfuck refinery I’m afraid

[misty spindle]

?!

how so

[paper sail]

Your reds are auo-refining, turn that off lol

Reds and Greens should always be ranking up

[misty spindle]

https://stefan5.idleonefficiency.com

so sorry

[hidden sphinx]

Also if you’re following the refinery balance chart don’t worry about your green not being on the same row as the red

[misty spindle]

didnt update it

[paper sail]

Oh, your profile shows from 9/8

[misty spindle]

sorry guys

[hidden sphinx]

Man I hate tryna use ie on mobile

It’s awful

[misty spindle]

so what you say guys

[twin token]

Use desktop website on ur phone

Smaller but way easier to navigate

[paper sail]

Profile hasn't updated for us yet

[misty spindle]

damn okay

how long does it take aproximetly

[paper sail]

30mins or less

[misty spindle]

Ill ask later then

[heavy moth]

so each time i do the weeklyboss ill gain huge dmg gainz for 1 week.. the fall will be painful

[rotund sand]

If I drop all my statues in at once does "Startue Exp" bubble proc once or for every level?

[sick sentinel]

supposedly it does work correctly if you drag and drop statues in a single stack. i think the only issue rn is if you use deposit all with statues in your char inventory

i'm just going to avoid using the deposit all button for now

25 runs aint so bad

[paper sail]

You still get some value, just not the full value if you deposit multiple levels at once. Say your Startue is 20% reduction, you'll get 20% reduction of the first level for all future levels, despite the future levels costing more.

If your first level's 20% discount is only 5 points off, all future levels get 5 points off instead of 6, 7, 10, 20, 50, whatever

[teal lynx]

I thought that got fixed? Atleast several people told me it got fixed

[sick sentinel]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message yeah supposedly

[paper sail]

Tough to tell since we don't get clear patch notes

[lavish cloak]

for boss battles, the most useful thing you can do is screenshot each characters moves and concentrate on buffs and miscs and setup moves while looking for all the ways you can rewind, especially to the 1st character. i managed to rewind 4 times in this setup and plan my moves since they never change. Once you get to 5 kills on the boss, you've earned all you can for this week's boss battle. Once the boss is dead, use any skills that just pick up trophies since no other progress is available.

[sick sentinel]

right

[paper sail]

You can still pick the MISC +1 trophy options even after the boss dies, btw

Tiny gians but still gains

[lavish cloak]

tiny gains when no other gains are available. absolutely

added that to the post in case anyone wants to refer to it later

[tacit tulip]

iirc it was rash who confirmed it at first

[dreamy rapids]

Haha attack go brrr

[lavish cloak]

skilling cards seem like longterm afk goals

kraken cards are a joke

[tacit tulip]

the only solace to kraken cards is that fishing speed is uncapped

[dreamy rapids]

Gonna need that DR build

[tacit tulip]

stack mega food buffs, one of each food, BB, and a single big afk claim

[dreamy rapids]

So question about the goat god

[lavish cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/my-child-what-is-troubling-you-what-is-troubling-you-my-child-gif-13665778

[dreamy rapids]

If I use 2 goat gods on different will I get more AFK gains on other

[fast grail]

dont try to get kraken cards with vman, bb is best

[dreamy rapids]

Like 10 instead of 5

[jagged olive]

can I snapshot drop rate then change to damage gear?

[lavish cloak]

one goat per character

[tacit tulip]

drop rate no, card drop rate yes

[dreamy rapids]

So only 5 afk gains no matter how many characters has Goat

[lavish cloak]

i'll sic my BB back on fishing when he's done superchowing w5. i just have the spare DK on it currently.

seasalt fishing cards up next might drain my will to live

[tacit tulip]

iirc the rates are the same as med fish

[lavish cloak]

yeah, not every card is gonna be heck, just the last ones

[dreamy rapids]

9.6M health

[tacit tulip]

[lavish cloak]

this is on my Bubo, so all the hp prayers are active >D

[dreamy rapids]

Looks better than mine...

[lavish cloak]

i got a lot of skilling to do

[dreamy rapids]

And can he still one shot Worm?

Nice

[dreamy rapids]

I am way too lazy to start 6 star cards

Shiiiiiii

Over 1T damage

I guess there is always somewhere to aspire

[lavish cloak]

finding every bonus so that kattlekruk farming on maestro for the trophy won't make me want to seppuku.

[dreamy rapids]

But at this point I am not sure if this is legit or some people just had Doot

[lavish cloak]

i am indeed a damn dirty dooter.

[fast grail]

Doot doesnt even really help with damage

[lavish cloak]

just keeps nobisect up on everyone

[fast grail]

aside from more prints of coconuts for qs

thats about it tho

[dreamy rapids]

He helps other things that can help with damage

[sick sentinel]

plenty of people still dont have doot and have bonkers dmg

[dreamy rapids]

Between more kills to get eclipse skull or free point from Bear god or straight up more afk gains

I still needs to get all the artifacts

The grind is fucking hell

[signal osprey]

My SB just broke 200T in a normal afk build

[winged trail]

Question, if I get a blueprint from claiming my time away but, I don't pick it up and use it. Can I still get it again

[sick sentinel]

u dont count

[dreamy rapids]

[signal osprey]

But I identify as a midgamer

[heavy moth]

with afk card set ?

[fast grail]

What is your qs at contract?

[signal osprey]

250

[tacit tulip]

I fully expect quick slap to make lava put a hard cap on bubble levels cause of you guys 😄

[sick sentinel]

!recipedrop but yeah if you didnt use it you can still drop it

[obtuse orbit]

Recipe drops are a bit different from the other drops when you view them on your card. If the recipe is black, it means you have never picked up a recipe from that anvil tab. If your recipe is lit up it means you have found one from that anvil tab, lucky you! However, if you learn a recipe, that specific recipe will no longer be displayed at all on that monsters card.

[tacit tulip]

and ruin it for everyone

[fast grail]

damn, 200T with raw damage? pretty insane

[heavy moth]

200T witj 250 QS thats insane

[fast grail]

Dont even know how i would get even close to that

[signal osprey]

Name I guess

[fast grail]

Ah

what level is that?

[winged trail]

Thank you

[lavish cloak]

6k+ in several alchemy bubbles will do wonders

[signal osprey]

Like 6k lol

[sick sentinel]

sry not allowed to level it anymore

[heavy moth]

i mean the difference in bonus is major

its so impressive 200T

[signal osprey]

Yeah if I atomed qs I could have 1Q+ damage in no time

Its way stronger than name i guess

But I dont see any reason to focus more damage at the expense of atoming other things

So for now my qs will stay on nblb where it belongs

[heavy moth]

ahah print coconut ?

[lavish cloak]

what are your atom priorities nowadays

[signal osprey]

I did for a bit because it was cheap so its actually like 10 levels ahead of my nblb but now its at 1b so I stopped

Right now I'm doing massacre to 95%

Then back to bob forever

Just got carpenter to 1k before I started on massacre

[lavish cloak]

oh carpenter, forgot about that one

[fast grail]

I need to stop qs and start on good things again, like getting catching bubbles to 95%

[solid epoch]

ive been doin a bit of mr massacre the past few days too, its at 90% rn, idk if i should just push to 95%

kinda wanna keep doin quick slap tho

[rough wasp]

I should get my QS up

[fast grail]

watching damage go zoom with qs is quite nice

[solid epoch]

yeah im gonna prob work on other bubbles once i get a big vman sample with the help of QS.

[heavy moth]

got the same probleme, QS is a drug

[solid epoch]

which might require getting to 10k+ QS

[signal osprey]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/438216759120756737

[solid epoch]

yeh no more lag

[rough wasp]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1141814324311097424/1154483168032862258/image.png

Mine are pathetically low

[solid epoch]

boost it up

[signal osprey]

For what its worth you dont really NEED the base damage bubbles. All of the games content was completable before they became the meta. They just help a good bit lol

[solid epoch]

gotta 1 shot NM kattle with vman

then ur set

[signal osprey]

Mine doesnt quite one shot yet but I would imagine hes getting close

[fast grail]

1 shot Nm kattle might take a bit for me, barely over 1T

[rough wasp]

I’ll start printing those shits once I get my snakeskin vial to 100%

[solid epoch]

i was one punching him at somewhere around 8T, though his punching talents were not max booked

[signal osprey]

Not sure how much damage I can get up to if I actually try for it

[solid epoch]

mightve been 9T tho

[signal osprey]

I've never bothered to turn off looty or run damage cards. Hes always just full DR

[solid epoch]

havent done a vman sample in a while then?

[signal osprey]

Probably like 6 weeks or so since my last sample

Although tbf I was too lazy to turn off looty when I did that too lol

[solid epoch]

lol

[feral hemlock]

Where exactly did you farmed oceanman statues for onyx? (Only construction and that left for me lol)

[fading cape]

candy'd catching spots in W2

[feral hemlock]

Why exactly w2 gave the best output?

[cyan shuttle]

hello guys do you want some statue calculator, it's free
#endgame-gen-chat message

[fading cape]

oceanman statues only drop from W2 catching spots

[feral hemlock]

Oh right

[misty spindle]

https://stefan5.idleonefficiency.com Can you guys tell me what I should be focusing on? I am 3 days from getting tiger god, trying desperatly to get new pets and improve breeding and cooking, trying to unfuck my refinery and have been steadly improving my alcheamy

[sick sentinel]

sounds like you're planning on releasing something p2w soon...

[feral hemlock]

Did u invest a little bit into luck bubble?

[signal osprey]

Thank god I checked that statue calc before pushing bubble to 95%. Apparently it will do almost nothing for me

[solid epoch]

not really

https://i.imgur.com/mjoKJT8.png

[signal osprey]

Luck bubble doesnt really do much for vman damage

Or luck in general for that matter

[solid epoch]

its all base dmg, and the dmg% multipliers

[buoyant heron]

is there a way to reduce lag on active ES? DK didnt have much lag (maybe 1 hour of desync per day of active afk), but ES lags so bad that most time spent active afk is desync (like 3 hours of active is really 1 hour and 2 hours of desync)

[old crane]

Lag from items on the ground or lag from just playing?

[buoyant heron]

ive got autoloot, so no items on the ground, just playing

[teal lynx]

Have you considered spenting 5k on a new Computer to run idleon in smooth 60 fps?

[old crane]

is this pc or mobile?

[buoyant heron]

pc

[old crane]

Running full screen?

[buoyant heron]

no

[misty spindle]

this causes desync?

[old crane]

it could maybe be harder on gpu which could increase lag

[sick sentinel]

this helps

[misty spindle]

like fr?

[old crane]

you might need to have a pretty old gpu for that to matter

I'm not sure if idleon is more cpu or gpu

[buoyant heron]

i have integrated graphics bc im on a laptop, its more gpu typically

[untold saffron]

does the gold watch reset picnic quests?

[buoyant heron]

ill try circs thing

[misty spindle]

youre so fucked

[old crane]

I wonder if there are any ingame settings that could help

[buoyant heron]

nah ive got a real pc on the way, my uni is selling pretty good computers for like 20$

ill set up idleon on there once i get it lol

so i can give the laptop a break

[old crane]

Yeah that should be better lol

[tacit tulip]

idleon is primarily CPU and it's particularly susceptible to small changes causing it to lag

shrinking the window right down reduces that jitter and helps alot, though it's only particularly needed for ES

I mostly do it if I'm playing another game cause idleon does not like to share

[tacit tulip]

Ironically my laptop is much stronger than my pc 😄

[old crane]

Ah I had a feeling sprite based game was more cpu lol

[jagged relic]

When you've played since launch and still don't have doot😢😢

[misty spindle]

pets were introduced like 3 months ago

[strong hull]

is there some sort of strat for gaming?

or can I just visit once a day and click harvest all

[misty spindle]

depends where youre at and what you need

[fervent brook]

does effciency matter when worshiping purely for exp?

[strong hull]

ngl most of w4/w5 stuff I just ignored in a way

idk

[jagged relic]

I know, I just mean I've played since the beginning and I've no way of getting the best item in the game without paying infinite money

[lavish cloak]

unlock everything that gives multipliers, invest in them as convenient, push base value upgrade harder than the others, click for nugget rng, rest on plants you still need to see all tiers of, and unlock chemicals for advanced clicking whackamole priorities that will take up all your time and curse lava for not allowing autoclickers

[strong hull]

but how do I get the other bit colours?

[jagged relic]

By getting more bits

[lavish cloak]

more bits. it goes to green bit instead of going to QQ

[strong hull]

oh

[misty spindle]

thats why people were bitching about it, a good reason but nothing to be done really

[jagged relic]

Oh yeah I know, it's just a shame

[misty spindle]

you should buy golden sprinkler, only first

[strong hull]

should I get 4/4 tho? or is one enough for now?

[misty spindle]

just 1

in my opinion its really bad to for 4/4 if youre f2p, maaaaaybe get 2/4 if you have excess gems

but its very negligable

[fervent brook]

so close to getting everyone to level 100 worship. Then I can just have Vmann and ES worship and keep my sanity.

[strong hull]

sounds like hell

worship by far is the most annoying thing to me

[misty spindle]

is Zen cog worth it??

[fervent brook]

It is now. It was not that great before lava buffed it.

[misty spindle]

I see people on reddit bashing it

I guess its outdated

[fervent brook]

Yea it was not great before. Then it got a pretty decent buff

[misty spindle]

do I try and go for 4 or will 2 be enough?

I do only have enough for 1 rn

[sick sentinel]

get what you can when you can, the small cogs are really good but the excogia pieces arent that great until you can connect all 4

the pieces could be better than what you have rn tho

[misty spindle]

good to know

[fervent brook]

Yeah the smaller cogs are good right away.

[misty spindle]

they are soo good

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/2726e7a733acab1f341a3421f7712329.png

frisbee greenstack here i come

[daring ravine]

bro

[lavish cloak]

see you in 2038

[untold saffron]

the dooter omni procs will carry don't worry

[lavish cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/move-marketmove-mm-trending-print-gif-25238306

[untold saffron]

its like 456 days without accounting for omni and printer go brr

so a few months maybe?

[lavish cloak]

i came up with 15 years

[untold saffron]

2 slots of 76, 6x for each slot

912 an hour 21.888 a day

[lavish cloak]

ah, i missed that part

[untold saffron]

all my mob vials are done now so the vman was panicing cause hes gonna lose his job

[lavish cloak]

yeah, 457 days

[sacred verge]

need to count in skill mastery, dk talent and golden relic aswell

much faster then

[untold saffron]

very true

can you sample boops?

[lavish cloak]

you should 24/7 active your SB for 1 mil plunderous mob kills and see which finishes faster

[untold saffron]

if i wasn't in the middle of greenstacking player ratings and portraits I'd do that

then i need 5 billi flames for bullets

[lavish cloak]

i need to get around to those eventualy

[sacred verge]

impressive the effort you guys put into greenstacks

so much for so little 😛

[untold saffron]

its more of a completionist thing

[lavish cloak]

after i got 75 they just started completing themselves

[untold saffron]

green stacks and the slab are my biggest dopamine hits, other than a sick nugget or something

[tall horizon]

Its only a few months

[lavish cloak]

mine is hitting item cap. these new fish are messing with my eyecandy

[lavish cloak]

I was quickly put in my place regarding math skills, i'm honored to receive schooling from the big boss though ❤️

[clear quartz]

anything affect sigils aside from the shop purchase and the sigil speed sigil?

[untold saffron]

artifact? no

[tall horizon]

Ah, I didn't read anything else, was just the message my phone loaded on lol

[clear quartz]

guessing this is worth doing sooner than later but still feels like pain i suppose

[untold saffron]

as soon as possible

[fast grail]

this talent doesnt increase sample at all right?

[lavish cloak]

all sigils are timegated powercreep. get it on!

[green eagle]

yep you need to do that so that sigils can complete slightly faster. trust me the others are way worse to complete

[sacred verge]

just 23 days :S

[green eagle]

it does if you aren't at 300% muti-ore, right?

[clear quartz]

[tidal sky]

i get back from work and i see the screen frozen like that, whyyy 😭

[green eagle]

flying in to max this in less than 2 years WOOOOOO

(and yes that sailing one only has 2 people on it atm. it will still take over a year when i add 2 more when the 103 days one finishes)

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/757351605841e979ed307137944b6b36.png

1/10th the way there, like a year and a half away

[sacred verge]

damn

those will never be greenstacked by me

[untold saffron]

working on the W3 cheese and all, just buy it as i get the biggie/doot spawns each day

[twin token]

How much sailing speed does oj Jooce Vial give with doubler

[sick sentinel]

all the vials show their actual boost

[twin token]

Don't have it yet

[sick sentinel]

mmm

[twin token]

So that's why I'm asking

Oh I might be able to unlock it rn actually

[sick sentinel]

gl

[clear quartz]

kinda dreading getting the soul vials and poison frogga maxed

[sick sentinel]

i would show mine but it wouldnt make sense cause of the vials mastery

[twin token]

Didn't get it

[sick sentinel]

poison frog yeah, but the souls ones are too bad later on with high rounds and vman

[twin token]

Oh wiki shows it

[clear quartz]

oh right, the vman soul thing

[twin token]

3% without doubler

That's crazy with Vial mastery and stuff

I'm so close to being able to get Vial mastery but I can't do the kill all mobs before they respawn which is one before the afk one

[sick sentinel]

yeah it gets pretty high

[twin token]

Crazy

[sick sentinel]

thats 44 vials

[fervent brook]

I wonder how lava is going to make it possible for us to max out the curretly impoosible vials.

[twin token]

Is that all of the realistically achievable ones?

Or are u missing some

[twin token]

Probs just won't tbh

[tacit tulip]

I reckon he can probably do the citringe one too 😉

[twin token]

O ye ur right lol

[tacit tulip]

my favourite part of vial mastery

[sick sentinel]

i have 4 i can work on without too much trouble rn

[fervent brook]

This reminds me of the clearly hacked accounts where they have the impossible vials maxed lol.

[clear quartz]

i am envious of you arcade luck havers, havent gotten pickle or any of the stamps yet :c or red hat, but thats a given i suppose

[fallow aurora]

does this even work?

[fading cape]

pretty much my proudest achievement. Especially considering it's all luck, no skill

[sick sentinel]

worked for me this time around

[twin token]

Ik there were some glitches that had to get patched so maybe that's it

[fading cape]

I feel like last week it defnitely didn't work. This time I got that one and the 9 attack one and they both worked

[twin token]

F2p were u the one who told me abt the money Bug on android

[sacred verge]

it does

[fallow aurora]

I clicked that misc twice on my last char (chose the misc to give my last char a extra turn) and it didn't work

[sacred verge]

worked for me today

[fallow aurora]

no, I don't even have a phone

[twin token]

Wait what u don't have a phone?

[fallow aurora]

yeah...

[fading cape]

It only works if you use that exact same MISC twice. It has to be the same one that says, "Use two only once per battle"

[sick sentinel]

u chose that same misc twice? it can only be used once so if you didnt choose 2 or more miscs before clicking it the first time then its done

[twin token]

Rip

[old crane]

I think its just the go back part that can only happen once, selecting it the first time shouldn't do anything if you didn't select any misc before

[fallow aurora]

I thought clicking it twice would work, since its a misc

[sick sentinel]

i see your reasoning now

how many misc did you choose before clicking it tho

[old crane]

The extra turn on last char might have messed it up, tho that might be a bug too

If you hit 1st misc for extra turn before getting to last char, then hit 2nd misc on last char to go back to first, it could have gotten confused and did extra turn instead of going back

[edgy minnow]

Im close to eclipse on suggmas without adept recipe plz help

[sick sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-dooby-be-like-gif-25372420

[twin token]

Get a better gaming chair

Most likely the root of the problem

[green eagle]

[twin token]

Where are u getting so many critters

Is it just epoch and 2h claims

[green eagle]

nah i'm lazy af

epoch and 40 hr traps lmao

[twin token]

I must've been underestimating epoch

[green eagle]

if i was more on top of it like i was before auto claim traps became a thing i would be doing 10 hr traps like i used to

[jagged olive]

dude isPrinter go Brrr fucked now or what? I used to get at least 5 prints and now the last like dozen times I've gotten 1-3, at 75% chance...

[lavish cloak]

rng do be like that

[twin token]

Caps at 70

[jagged olive]

I'm at like 3 days in a row with 1 print...

[sick sentinel]

happens to everyone

[twin token]

1/9 chance for u to hit a 30% chance 3 times in a row

[jagged olive]

ehh

[fathom lagoon]

Damn crystal island is awesome. So much xp and candies

Just scooped 5 12-hour candies lol

[twin token]

Anyone wanna run party dungeon

[ocean fox]

For farming rares on ES is the divine helm and boots better than magma for es, or does the extra damage outweigh it

[sacred verge]

did u go yet?

[paper sail]

That vial took me 2 sets of 40hr traps. Went so fast lol. I have 1 nature on each, full nature on Vman so.. 63 40hr royals, twice?

[sacred verge]

mutated mush payday, 2 72h candies

[green eagle]

i don't even have either of these maxed very high, just to go back to earlier

[paper sail]

Species Epoch is beeg

[zinc belfry]

I rushed to unlock V man but his skills are still low and finally leveling them. Would crystal countdown be worth it without chocolatey chip and low star Crystal respawn cards or just skill normally? https://www.idleonefficiency.com/players

[green eagle]

that's awesome, i don't have all of them set on crabos, 4 characters are set on something else. you have a lot more base critters or efficiency than me for sure though haha

[lavish cloak]

do critters benefit from worship levels and souls from trapping?

[paper sail]

Vman's talent increases gains based on THEIR levels only. However, all characters get the benefits.

[paper sail]

Both critters and souls benefit the same %

[lavish cloak]

i'm gonna need more words. the whole account benefits from vmans levels? or each character bneefits only from their own levels

[paper sail]

The whole account benefits from the Vman's levels specifically.

[lavish cloak]

yet another reason to pump skill levels on vman

[green eagle]

also depends on your max charge, but typically frozen souls or squishy souls are best for exp gain

[paper sail]

So if you aren't using Nature Traps on Vman, you're hurting your own gains

Max Charge shouldn't matter. Just use IE to see your EXP/Charge

[green eagle]

you can make a small arguement that you can inch out a bit more efficiency by using better souls if you have more charge

[muted plover]

unlocked nobi... is worth to wait until goat or too much slow progress ?

[green eagle]

wait for goat

then you can take people off the cold rock and put them back into the tube to continue making gains on both

[paper sail]

Maybe in a single sitting, but you'd be better off waiting into the future for more charge to invest into your Highest xp/charge again

[green eagle]

eh probably just bear i guess if you don't have doot? it doesn't really matter what god you are linked to, but bear gives you some extra skill levels at least

[paper nova]

Besides AFK gain rate and multi kill what sort of things directly affect increasing kills/hr?
I'm fighting some mobs taht i don't have multikill for and even if i increase dmg by 30% KC/hr doesn't go up. What other factors are biggest?
Respawn rate, M/s, ???

[sick sentinel]

respawn is big, movespeed caps depending on maps

[paper sail]

Agreed, Bear for bonus levels into Cmon Out Crystals

[paper sail]

There are 3 different categories of Capped increases if I remember correctly, pre-multikill.
First is your minimum damage.
Second are talents, which act as a multiplier to your damage. Multi-attack passives do work here.
Third is a weird combination of both movement speed and attack speed. This one varies kinda wildly by mapsize.

So, if adding more minimum damage doesn't give you an increase, then talent levels won't either. Try adding the Snake Boa card for see if movement speed will

Then respawn and afk gains are uncapped.

[paper nova]

cool ty

[paper sail]

There were calculator sheets back in the day to tell you if you were capped in each category, but they weren't ever updated for Elite Classes even 😂 Very outdated

[fallow aurora]

does party starter stop giving its bonus when its stunned during the stun duration in TD?

[lavish cloak]

is there a trapping checklist?

[fallow aurora]

!trapchart

[obtuse orbit]

Created by ..someone

[lavish cloak]

this may have fallen out of optimality with all the new things that have come out in the last 6 months

but good enough to start with. thank you

fun note, if you select "delete traps" and hit "claim all" at the top right, it'll delete ALL of your traps. good to note if you're trying to only update your exp traps.

[fallow aurora]

try to get passive cards, huge QOL

[lavish cloak]

10/4 chief

[twin token]

Bigger than qol

If u use a doubler on a passive rift card it gets doubled

[sharp igloo]

Do you get more statues active skilling? Ive had my vman afk mining for a few days, and was surprised by the number of llumber statues I got, but was wondering if id get way more if active?

[twin token]

Can't get rare drops active skilling

[magic estuary]

so, how many salary did you guys spent to have king doot companion ? 😄

[fallow aurora]

never got 1

[sharp igloo]

Oh okay thanks

[fallow aurora]

and I don't have a job

[twin token]

Yw

[paper sail]

Wut. I've always heard the opposite

[fossil urchin]

are the +money equipment worth ,more than the kattle +drop when farming money?

[twin token]

Yeah rift passive cards get doubled but regular passive cards dont

[signal osprey]

Thats just not true lol

[paper sail]

I'll have to test

[signal osprey]

No passive cards can be doubled

[twin token]

Wdym they can

[signal osprey]

They definitely cant

[lavish cloak]

lava ended that back when we were doubling passive shrine bonuses. like back in w4 days

[twin token]

Oh they cant

[lavish cloak]

maybe not all the way back to w4, but they haven't been double-able for quite some time now

[twin token]

Mb I always thought they could

[tall horizon]

Passives could never be doubled

[paper sail]

Okay good, I was about to have to get my ass out of bed to go check

[lavish cloak]

snapshot-doubling this dude was the shiny farm strat back in the day

[twin token]

U mean crystal?

[lavish cloak]

yeah. sorry, so many reserved terms and conditions now

can't tell between pokemon and idleon mobs

[twin token]

I've never had that issue personally

[lavish cloak]

you're probably not 36 and figuring out exactly what brain functions are dying first.

[signal osprey]

All of them

[lavish cloak]

elder millenial dopamine farmers unite

[thorn oriole]

I have farmers only

[lavish cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-real-farming-rich-benoit-rich-rebuilds-this-is-how-farming-is-done-this-is-how-farming-looks-like-gif-26554619

[signal osprey]

This is real farming

[lavish cloak]

how long til a million plunder kills?

[signal osprey]

I'll be happy if I make it to 300k lol

[lavish cloak]

dat drop chance

[signal osprey]

Yeah getting 1m would be nice but thats like 50 days

[lavish cloak]

you can knock that out before w6 with tons of time to spare

[signal osprey]

That leaves an alarmingly small amount of time leftover for beans though

[sharp igloo]

Why farm beans over gmush? Just for more statues?

[lavish cloak]

statues

[sharp igloo]

I know beans are better than gmush for statues, but are they so much better that its worth not also getting gmush kills at the same time?

[lavish cloak]

gmush kills are for afk. statues are for active.

[sharp igloo]

Gotchya.

[signal osprey]

Now I kinda wanna know what the hourly rates at gmush are 🤔

[lavish cloak]

time to spade

[tall horizon]

did you give up on 200 smithing?

[lavish cloak]

that's a lot of bullets

[signal osprey]

Nah I'm just gonna limit myself to a few ccd cycles per day for sanity sake

Its too slow to just push all of that at once

[lavish cloak]

ccd cycle?

[signal osprey]

Crystal countdown

[lapis mesa]

i unlocked crystal island finally. and went to it on the wrong preset -_-

[signal osprey]

The original plan was to do a coldseeker green stack on vman with ccd between each level and see what smiting level I end up with

But holding down on the craft button for 10 minutes and then punching crystals for 45 gets old pretty quick when you repeat that 10 times

[fathom lagoon]

Me too man, when I first unlocked it, absolute pain lol

They all disappear if you leave too smh

[lapis mesa]

did get my Vman 5 levels though, that was nice

[potent lily]

Is this a glitch? The middle ones?

[fathom lagoon]

The xp is fire

[sharp igloo]

You probably got one before lava changed the genetics that pet has

[tall horizon]

No, their bonus has been changed since they were released. You have an old version

[potent lily]

O ok

[lavish cloak]

the grindiest grind >D

[sharp igloo]

I think the grindiest grind is depositing bars every 2 minutes on your SB lol

[lavish cloak]

you at least get to screw off for 1 minute and 55 seconds in between tasks

but i guess you do need to juggle all your archers at that point

[plush crown]

just got to w5, how should i start?

[opaque sun]

Go back and work on w1-w4 stuff you skipped

[plush crown]

would a good place to start be getting my other chars to elite classes?

ok think ill start with my hunter to beast master considering he is my 2nd highest level char

[willow idol]

Does anyone know how many days is the max number you can wait between fishing island bottle / trash pick ups?

[potent lily]

Is the cabbage in cocking is for normal cocking lvl or plates lvl?

[frozen urchin]

beast master is kinda weak and boring tho 😦

[fathom lagoon]

Normal cocking

[plush crown]

then what should i start with? my es is the pusher so im focusing on the most important skill rn

[frozen urchin]

DK for gaming / Bubo for lab

[plush crown]

luckily i already have a DK but one small issue

they do like, all of the mining.

[pearl cedar]

[frozen urchin]

do you even need that much mining?

[plush crown]

now that i think about it, not much they kinda just mine void ore for no reason

[frozen urchin]

Also early w5, i'd get the first divinity asap

[plush crown]

bro theres like 4 crystal stilts i just got to the first monster area

[pearl cedar]

Is your dk mining higher than vman?

[plush crown]

i dont even have a maestro

[pearl cedar]

Bruh

How many characters have you unlocked?

[plush crown]

9

[pearl cedar]

Do you have a journeyman at least?

[plush crown]

yes

[frozen urchin]

(good)

[pearl cedar]

I was so concerned

[plush crown]

they mostly chill in the lab tho

[frozen urchin]

what do you even do without bubo

that's why you need divinities

[pearl cedar]

My god lol

[frozen urchin]

The second one lets you have chars in the lab passively

[plush crown]

my shaman's dmg sucked so i didnt feel like pushing it (i also ran out of time candy while pushing to this world)

what have i done

[frozen urchin]

bubo gets so much better late game 🙂

[plush crown]

cool guess ill transfer equipments and have my es do divinity

[placid tusk]

How does the math for this work?

[tall horizon]

Yes

[untold saffron]

I dunno but i like it

https://i.gyazo.com/ebefde2430b4c3ebd376f0b71ed59938.png

[sick sentinel]

it spikes at like 500 or 1000, i dont remember what other people said

[tall horizon]

REGARDING THE COOKING SPEED CHANGE
Once again, the cooking change is not a bug, please stop reporting it. Those of you who think the speed is "lower" than it should be, please look at the values again. You are likely forgetting to convert the percent properly. Those who gained more, its intentional.

Convert the % properly.
0.69% becomes 1.0069
Multiplicative with total meal level (grabbed from talent pop up) Lets use 420, for memes.
1.0069^420 = 17.9582147154
Now, due to rounding you have to allow for some variance. So please, do the math, if the number is close its correct.

[plush crown]

ooooh yeah my shaman's damage is actually garbage 700 kills an hour is gonna get them nowhere

[pearl cedar]

Rash my cooking speed isnt fast enough plz help

[sick sentinel]

you're a lost cause buddha

[tall horizon]

[pearl cedar]

Can't even hit e41 speed

[signal osprey]

[sick sentinel]

[fallow aurora]

my account is worse than that

[pearl cedar]

What's your furthest lvl 60

[lapis mesa]

for those who love doing the math on scaling 😄 though your skill level is probably higher

[tall horizon]

cheesey bread. I have some saved up i need to go use

think i can get a few more

[plush crown]

shaman has a big spike in power after reaching bubo... right?

[untold saffron]

yeah he becomes not shit

[pearl cedar]

Damn bruv I have the same, I've never been good at spice collecting though. So my kitchens prob lower

[tall horizon]

all meals are 53+

[pearl cedar]

Same

[signal osprey]

[plush crown]

oh good. too bad it'll take 12 hours to not even be at the zone with the stuff they need to get promoted

[pearl cedar]

Yeah that'll do it.

[pearl cedar]

Such is the power of doot shroom

[signal osprey]

Surely I get a W2 ring soon

Surely...

[tall horizon]

W2 ring

[signal osprey]

Now I gotta go see what I can cook so I stop looking bad

[pearl cedar]

You have elite class swap tokens which would be even more powerful than w2 ring

[signal osprey]

Is that confirmed to not fuck everything up?

[pearl cedar]

Uh sure

Someone gotta be the first to try it out

[signal osprey]

I'm still gonna go cook first just in case

[pearl cedar]

May as well be you, we already discussed when something hurts you Lava will fix it the next patch

[opaque sun]

Kill doot gmush on DK, swap back to BB

[signal osprey]

That statement does seem to hold more truth with every passing update

[pearl cedar]

Do something really painful please

[signal osprey]

Guess I just gotta wipe all my super chows to make doot shroom easier for everyone else

I can do rift again

[pearl cedar]

Not the hero we deserve

[opaque sun]

Just buy 2 swap tokens

[signal osprey]

Yeah but is that confirmed to not break anything?

I guess I can be the one to find out

[opaque sun]

Only thing it gets a little wonky is the family bonus i think

[signal osprey]

Need gems first though this fomo shop is too pricy

[pearl cedar]

The only problem is you have to kill 100m dootshroom before finding out

[pearl cedar]

It is a very expensive shop this time

[tall horizon]

Family Bonus stops working from swap

[opaque sun]

Swap current BB to dk and be chef-less temporarily, go kill 100m doot shrooms, swap back to BB

[tall horizon]

Doesn't calculate its level anymore

[signal osprey]

Eh the BB family bonus is bad anyway

[pearl cedar]

Yeah but has anyone confirmed this to cause unintended consequences

[signal osprey]

Plus I have two BB anyway so I still get a smaller family bonus at least

[opaque sun]

pretty much just the family bonus issue that rashaken mentioned

[pearl cedar]

I assume it would calculate if you go back to original class though

[tall horizon]

Not sure on that, haven't seen anyone do it to confirm

[opaque sun]

like ive used the elite swap and confirmed like say the kills carry over (maybe not tested on doot gmush specifically)

[tall horizon]

I just know it no longer counts for either elite lol

[signal osprey]

Can you imagine if the doot shroom kills dont carry over

Swap to DK farm 100m and then lose them on the swap back

[pearl cedar]

Good news is dk dootshroom should only take a couple days

[opaque sun]

For the “might as well”, also try farming 100m solo mimic using boomerang. It probably doesnt count tho

[pearl cedar]

Doesnt count

[opaque sun]

But can always try since you are at it

[pearl cedar]

Took mine to 100k at least and didnt get zow

Counts in IE though

[opaque sun]

And max out meatshank while at it

[signal osprey]

Even with a class swap I think I kinda want to wait for the W2 ring anyway

[fallow aurora]

after chow, do super chow

[opaque sun]

If DK can get more multikill tiers, use gold watch to do boops

[pearl cedar]

I'll finish boops in like 4 days I'm just forgetful

[opaque sun]

100m boops?

[tall horizon]

I keep forgetting boops

[fallow aurora]

he has 9.1m

[pearl cedar]

Oh that's never happening even with gold watches

[signal osprey]

I remember to do boops once or twice a month. I'll get my 1m soon

[tall horizon]

I'm at like 200k maybe lol

[signal osprey]

Practically there already

[opaque sun]

I just barely reached 1m boops like last week. Working on 2m now

Every little steps towards 100m

[pearl cedar]

Like minmax I can get 30k boops a day

[fallow aurora]

wait is this remaining boops or current count?

[pearl cedar]

100m is 11 years

[pearl cedar]

Current count

[signal osprey]

So about 3 months after W6 release

[opaque sun]

Im sure in 11 years our general kill will buff more than 100x

[fallow aurora]

oh.. I thought u just needed 900k boops left to chow

[pearl cedar]

Right but at current rate I'm not worried about superchowing, if there is a boost later it will outshine the extra few hundred k I can do before then

[pearl cedar]

Nah 100k left for chowing

[signal osprey]

Wait I just realized I would also need to swap to nobi for a week to do doot shroom and that removes my arctis

Eh fuck that I'm good. I'll do it when I get doot

[pearl cedar]

Oh just get Doot

[opaque sun]

Just buy the swap tokens and wait

And just to witness the next season event drops like 50 elite tokens by abusing gold watches

[paper nova]

Is there already an existing list somewhere of existing common 'daily' to-do's ?

[sharp igloo]

How can you even tell how many doot shrooms youve killed lol?

[opaque sun]

The endgame pins has the list

If you meant for gold watch

if you mean like a more beginner guide, i think it was in one of the tips and tricks

[opaque sun]

Use IE, or swap back to BB and check if it got zow/chow threshold

If not relied on external sources, you basically only see if you got the zow chow line

Or have a little brother count the number of shroom caps that specifically came from doot shrooms

[sharp igloo]

Lmao Ill try that last method

[fallow aurora]

what is doot stroom?

[opaque sun]

there is an invisible green mushroom in the doot map, which also counts as a separate kills towards BB’s chow

[fallow aurora]

WHAT

I knew that it was there, I'm just suprised it counts as a seperate kill

[clear quartz]

ayyy

[opaque sun]

Chows are counted per map, not by mob type

[fallow aurora]

does multikill work on the doot shroom?

[opaque sun]

yes

Issue is you cant afk on doot map

So needs to be done active

[rough wasp]

[fallow aurora]

Wonder if lava will ever add zow/chow/super chow on bosses other than boop

[tall horizon]

unlikely, they dont track kc

[sharp igloo]

You cant chow moles on nkruk lol?

[opaque sun]

Although the count is fixed to a number, chiz’s spiky orbs technically would count if the restriction was lifted

[tall horizon]

Dont think so, I believe people tried zow there.

[opaque sun]

Kruk moles sadly didnt count

[sharp igloo]

How long would it take to do doot shrooms?

[opaque sun]

I left it on auto for like a half day, no zow

[tall horizon]

~10 days

[opaque sun]

Shorter if you swap to DK

[sharp igloo]

Thats not terrible I guess, but thats a lot of active time

[fallow aurora]

1 of the invisible ones are probably doot shroom, what is the other invisible one and the rift one?

[tall horizon]

just use IT, its better

[opaque sun]

maybe dr defmap brown poops and/or solo acorn at acorn td

[heavy moth]

is mummy memorial dootshroom ?

[sharp igloo]

Wait 10 days for zow, chow or apocolypse chow?

[fallow aurora]

what is "the rift"

[sharp igloo]

Its in w4

[tall horizon]

enhanced chow

[opaque sun]

By w5 you should know the rift

[sharp igloo]

Oh yeah I guess regular chow is called apocolypse chow lol. Meant enhanced

[opaque sun]

You are missing out on lot of easy bonuses if not

Zow, chow, super chow

[fallow aurora]

"the rift" means all the mobs in rift?

[opaque sun]

Yes, you can do on any wave of the rift as it only counts once for the entire map

its just that if possible, its easier to do it on lower waves of rift

[sharp igloo]

Do it as early as possible. I screwed up and didnt do it, and now the mobs have way too much hp for me to even be able to reasonably do it at all

[opaque sun]

But its not worth delaying progressing rift just for the sake of “i might work on super chow first”

[fallow aurora]

I ignored rift because I need to kill 5 mil mobs while afk

[opaque sun]

If you have the choice, do super chow first, but dont worry even if you are like at rift 51

[fallow aurora]

I just didn't want to do it

[sharp igloo]

I guess you could just push for rift 46, then wait till you have way more damage later on to super chow

[opaque sun]

Rift super chow is very doable even without multikill

[fallow aurora]

so if u kill all the mobs in the map it only counts as 1 kill?

[opaque sun]

Chows are per map. Rift is just one map

so doesnt matter when you do it

[fallow aurora]

oh ok ty

[opaque sun]

Its just easier to get multikill on earlier waves

[fallow aurora]

need 1b for multikill

I don't even have 1b on es

[sharp igloo]

I wasnt even 1 shotting last I checked, but I also have like 5x as much damage now, so might try again

[opaque sun]

When afk, attack talents adds damage multipliers so may effectively be giving you one shot like results

[sharp igloo]

Still thats gonna be super slow lol

Ill wait till I finish super chowing everything else first. I just started super chowing a couple weeks ago, so Im only like halfway through w2 rn. Hopefully by the time I finish wurms Ill have enough damage to multikill at rift again

[fallow aurora]

I should probably start grinding for magma armor then kattlekruk armor now that i've killed kattlekruk, but i'm too lazy to craft anvil tab 5

[heavy moth]

125 hours less than a week

well for myself

[sharp igloo]

Dont make kattle armor for everyone. Magma is better for most stuff. Id just have 1 set of kattle for your DK, and maybe another for your ES

[opaque sun]

More like look what the misc stat says and think for yourself if that misc stat applies for the task

[twin token]

Yh instead of doing smth bc it seems better look at what option a gives and what option b gives and compare

[spice frigate]

how does one go about getting void? so u need 1m of each kill on every mob in the first 3 worlds than an obscene number of mushroom kills?

[tall horizon]

magma is only better for damage, chopping/mining and stats. Kruk is better for drops/kph

[twin token]

Yeah

[sharp igloo]

Why would you want kattle on anyone whos not active farming? (Which would generally be DK and ES)

[twin token]

Took me like 3 days when I was doing it but I uswr maybe 2 weeks of candy

[tall horizon]

So kruk is general use better, because damage becomes irrelevant

[spice frigate]

rip void

[opaque sun]

if misc applies kruk good, else its weaker than magma

[twin token]

Is mk pendant better than scarf for es or no

[tall horizon]

all stat pendant

[twin token]

Which one is that

[twin token]

Oh don't have it yet

[tall horizon]

(assuming you mean active)

[twin token]

Yh active

[tall horizon]

oh you meant not

[twin token]

Yeah

Mb

[paper nova]

Does troll ever kill you if you just keep winning and losing minigames over and over just to rack up the # of games u won?

[twin token]

I go from 370m to 400m with scarf and have 6k mk if that helps

[twin token]

Troll does nothing himself the only things that can kill u are the mobs

[paper nova]

ty'

[sharp igloo]

Is tooth just better than the divine scarf because you dont utilize the 25%afk gains from scarf while active?

[tall horizon]

Ya, both of its misc bonuses are not helpful for (most)active play

Its good for anyone without a respawn talent

but you shouldnt really be active on them anyways lol. except vman

[sharp igloo]

Doesnt scarf also give like 35% damage though? Is that not better than 5% allstat?