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don't be tempeted
Even if it was just for nblb its worth 30 trophies
or save for 1 day getting this
or.. you save a month worth of stop watches, and you get it in a day
assuming all of the bosses are worth the same amount of trophies each day
sorry I know this sounds stupid but how did this happen
Im pretty sure I dont have that many kills
33 days worth of progress for a pink bandana? Like sure someone going to get it on second week
w5 also somehow I got skulls on many
Vman gets 2 mil kills
is this your vman?
after a speed run its reset to 2 million, just how lava has it set
its some where in the patch notes explaining how it gives kills
resets all unlocked map to 2m?
yeah, hell go all the way to your farthest character
but if he is the farthest itll reset to second farthest
Vman portal resets, so any kills he did is reset to 2 mil
His kills are reset to 2 mil every time he does speed run
ohhh his kill I see
So if vman does 50000 b kills somehow and goes speed run, his contribution is reset to 2m
So basically dont do deathnote on vman
Vman is basically considered to play no more part on death note, but as a compensation gets a flat 2m
Im doubting if I should keep my divinity going on
Imagine someone with 10 vman account
its going to take like months to get the level before they can leave div
is the dmg of the knight shockwave based on the dmg of shockwave of squire?
but then my lab has 0 progress as barely did any labbing before geting to w5
oh thats an interesting thought. wonder if doing a run on VMan 1 resets everyone else.. someone ask Rasha
sweet just hit 20x DR
10 vman also has the curse of bricked rift
...i just cant i cant even get decent Billion dps and my guy is in different color
at 10 T dmg gets pink if that what you mean
or you mean the skin of the DK is different
idk i was just playing along
ahahah got me
Game hates me
tusk is the one i got stuck on to
finally got past it and now im just going island to island getting eldritches
a boss whose req is GMush kills lmao
oh no.. one of the bosses has a cooking req
Did I break it? Are there only so many boss levels?
yeah set number of levels
got em
just few more vial masteries to get it to 100%
mine was 500k for most of it but he was out of lab and not arctis..probably bad move in hindsight
500k sample that is
oh yeah nice, mines only 187k
funny enough i dont actually have vial mastery unlocked because ive been putting it off a while
i have about 15 max level vials so i really should
im on the AFK portion of it lol, another 2.5 mil and i get vials
only 6 max vials though, working ont he printables right now, just slow
im finding it difficult to get more vials maxed out now, all the obvious ones like ores and wood is done now its on to the slow stuff like monster mats and anvil
fish is probably next up actually
Fishing/catching vials aren't that hard. The first souls are also pretty easy
ive got 5 12s that are almost done
not sure what ill go after that. monster mats i guess
just cant leave my ES to long, even with a dreadlo bag.
if earlier monsters fill up the bags too quick then itd probably be better to print them then go for later monster materials
double whammy
its not terribly quick, few hours, but a problem when im at work or asleep lol. Decided hell be doing hampters during those times though now
hampter grind is too real
ive got one bag done, and no weapons yet. so idk if it even counts as started lol
Are you using the prayer and the star sign to boost your carry cap?
not the prayer, good idea though, and i think the star sign i have infinite now... let me check
yup it inf. its ok. hell do mats when i can check on him every few hours, and hampters otherwies
If you have the chip that doubles the bonus of active star signs you can still pick that one and have even more carry cap
whats the pro tip on gathering souls that doesnt involve going up and down w3 town a million times
from storage chest to soul totalizer over and over
i got a ram
ram pet is the pro tip
damn
Turn off auto loot when you use the totalizer and then run down to the chest and turn it on on top of the chest
Ram
The game will slowly start looting souls after a few seconds and you can spam deposit all in the chest
there we go.. knew Contract would have something useful
Ddint know u could do that
my game seems to start looting it too fast
after turning it off and on
it hits full inventory and stops trying to auto loot pretty quick
Maybe try spam clicking deposit while it doee that?
You turn it on while at chest and just spam deposit all
- Turn off auto loot
- Summon big pile of souls
- Run down to the chest with all souls still on ground
- Turn on auto loot and then immediately open the chest
- Spam deposit all
If you already have the souls on the ground with auto loot on and it tried to loot them and failed due to inventory then you gotta do it the hard way unfortunately
And yeah having more cap is never a bad thing either although even at max cap its still slow
Ram pet baby, ez solution just a small fee of your soul
i have all pets besides ram and doot. lava wins again
Seems likw u havent figured out how to get more souls to sell
wish my free rolls just go beyond sheepie for once, need that x1.0 DR or global chest
Doot I'd all I need. It's all I'll ever need. It's illogically impossible. It doesn't really exist.
gotta say the bump up in exp in w5 is nutty. i'm only 175 and as an ES with portal... the exp is unreal
talk to the npc
the goldwatch is worth it? or i should save for bandana or other
Would you rather have a cosmetic hat and slab slot or 33 days of NBLB, snail, boron, trash, crystal island and bottle resetsπ€
cosmetic hat ofc
33 days?
oh. cost of the hat. nvm
shimmer, seasalt, fractal probably makes the most sense
Yeah, sadly nothing yet to improve the odds.
It's usually better if you hit it more often than if you wait longer for better odds.
actually makes me mad how much easier it is to make a warrior wep then a mage one >_> mage requiring a ton of frigid souls
Anyone else having their game crash whenever they talk to any npc?
ye im running the fast toggle and every 1% ive probly done around 800 percent so far π
@warm parcel what are you on? mobile, browser or steam
Keep doing it, that's the agreed strat, but rng can be a bith
@warm parcel aw, i don't have iOS to test it, sorry i wasn't more help
Hello im at the lamper map and im close to thr boss map cause I just wanted yo make sure I could get world 6 fast when It came out so my question is how much dps do I need to defeat the boss im doing about 120mil dps on the shimmer map that counts that but how much does the boss have in hp
You can beat him easily with that.
Normal difficulty is pretty much just: if you can reach it, you can kill it.
So what should I be doing with gaming...? claiming when all is up or what
There's a few plants you want to kill on sight cause they're useless. And some you want to grow to t4 before collecting.
Even if it's on my bb who doesn't have much aoe?
Because I dont have the auto loot so I didn't push on the others cause it would be too hard without it since they would just need to be afk cause to laggy when active but yeah does bb work even with no aoe
you can just filter all the drops for the map if you want.
except the super rare stuff
Nah, BB won't cut it if you cant kill it before the first mole reaches him. Also i've read people say bubo poison might not affect moles. But ES, DK, SB should have no problem.
This map is gross
U can auto with DK and ES easy
It just will take u more time
After getting all shiny pets to 5 do I push the shiny level up speed pets to like 8?
I think I beat it? 
so I got the void wep for my warrior.. should i put straight str on it or get some wis for accuracy? feel like with this wep i should be smart about it
for his affect, no not exactly
but will I in the future? yes so that's the problem
true
yeah good point
probably push w5 with my es
then farm
I would just keep is simple and put str on it. Acc is easy to get
what's that sun?
dont put acc on it
why didn't i buy that >_>
huge rip, bought +1 loot pile and x4 mob respawn
idk they said they got a huge acc boost and i need acc
Those are better than that
to wisdom that is incredibly massive wdym
nope
that is a HUGE acc boost
yes lol for me it is
i have like 600 wisdom? or so
that's huge
accuracy wont be a problem
you probably wouldn't dump 300 star talent points into it anyway
Yes late game I know it won't, i'm early w5... with a DK
You should do your Alchemy more too. π
its a massive waste of merit points, thats what it is
I do my alchy. So sick of people saying that. I do it daily lol
if youre to low ojn accuracy u need to backtrack to other worlds
If you're putting in more than one point, sure.
my ES has enough accuracy for all of w5, for my DKs skill he does not have 1.5x the accuracy
not do stupid desicions to try push when its a waste to push anyway
there is literally no reason for pushing w5
lol, you are so wrong
Well there's a reason why people say it. 'Cause a lot of people don't do it yet it's huge .-.
Yes but I do it... non stop. People say that assuming every single player skips it. So it gets old to hear
but tbf a lot of people do skip it.
you can allways do more alch
Fair, but it is cause they do π so its a revolving door lol
No u can't, it's timegated. I'm doing alchy non stop along with 15 other mechanics in the game lol
thats why u do CC, so it wont be as timegated
post the alch screenshot
People tend to forget what an early account looks like and the true struggle. Just now being able to use doot opened up a ton for skilling/crafting which i'm doing
its not that we dont remember, atleast i do
just upgrade your gear with all acc stats then. they get reset anyway. what are you running?
well the golden pocket watches are cool lol
for earlier account its easy to put emphasis on the wrong stuff
Yeah well i'm not doing anything "wrong" at the moment lol
I def did that .-.
I research and use discord non stop lol
you 100% are if ur pushing w5
pushing w5 is not "wrong" on ONE character
I've made SO much money that I needed
and levels
if you need to go out of ur way to do it. it is
I'm not going out of my way
also wasting merit points is also wrong
My es needs the money/levels
pushing w5 asap is asbolutely a win imo
Keeping one toon pushing w5 isnt bad. Get troll merit stuff available is nice
How did I waste my merit? People said to always get spawn rate %
i said the stat talent was waste
I haven't gotten it yet.
@sacred verge telling me what i'm doing is "dumb" is an attack. I'm leveling and making money so I can upgrade stuff. It's worked out insanely nice
Minor things like putting acc on it isnt bad though. Do what you need for now and next wep just put the main stat, or remake it. Every account is diff
i said spending merits on stat talent for accuracy is dumb
i dont want you to waste ur merit point
as it was suggested
You also said pushing w5 is too
thats not true
if he spends even 5 merit points on the stat talent it will cost him better uppgrades
well pushing w5 is kinda waste if u need to go out of ur way to get the accuracy
what i'm currently doing is having everyone sit in lab for dinvity/lab, one guy pushing w5 for exp/money, and trying to get meastro, at night everyone sits in the lab
A lot of the w5 tasks though are how efficient you are to make the task faster.. and just time
@sacred verge I stated that's specifically for my DKs talent. I have enough acc to push all of w5 on my ES
fine
The only reason I would do w5 on my DK is purely to level up for talent points
im just saying there is better stuff to do
like what?
like backtracking the other worlds
i'm still doing that
if you dont even have maestro yet it just goes to show how much there is still to do
No it doesn't
it does
You're assuming way too much
lmao
ok, then send ur IE and i will take a look
im sure i can find something for you in earlier world
i see the trend with sending your IE, "stamps/alchy"
when all that comes with time and making enough money
its not assuming, its a fact
This convo is legitmately giving me a headache. I'm gonna get some food now lol
some people don't actually want help
I'm not being hostile at all?
All I asked was should I put acc or str on my weapon... and the whole rabbit hole of how i'm playing the game wrong came up
nvm just enjoy ur time π everyone is allowed to do stuff their own way
it's not about the destination, it's about the journey
true
then a huge rant about how I should have enough accuracy, how i'm pushing w5 is stupid.. like I didn't ask any of that.
everyone gets to endgame, some just take 3 years π
idk i'm about 3 weeks in right now. Think i'm doing pretty okay.
okay, i apologize. but no, no reason to put accuracy on ur wep π hope this is good
its normal for ppl to do light jabs by calling stupid, dumbdumb, silly, dont take it too personally
though let me backread it since the convo is bit long
it's a video game discord. unsolicited advice comes with the territory
yeah but it's a pummel of unwanted advice, questions, asks for IE, claiming i'm not playing the game right
did you threaten his dog
would you rather have me sit back and let you waste ur stuff? its not a big deal
I simply asked... Accuracy on my weapon.... Or str.....
if you come here to discord asking for help you must tolerate ppl giving their opinion
I asked a singular question.
everything was done with good intent
void gear for acc is fine, because you will easily get lustre weapon for all 10 char mid w5 stage, ideally before big moles map
but yeah, just put main stat stones for it, dmg pays off better in the long run
@granite grove ty
dw bro, I would have definitely been a lot more rude XD
lool
i mean here by the time i reached most char on tremor wurms, i got 9/10 on diabolical, i could also get diabolical gloves for mman but gotta save null salts for now
I mean my main just got to wormies and I've been playing for a while now .-.
Pretty sure telling someone they're playing a game wrong and doing something "stupid" is rude regardless. But i'm just going to drop it. Dude has people ganging on me who wasn't even in the conversation or here.
I also pop on like twice a day to claim/update/repeat lol
everyone plays the game differently so not really worth comparing yourself to others unless you're going for fast progression
Def. I was on a lot when I started but once things kind of fall into play, it slows down
its impossible to compare progress, but it is possible to atleast take the smart steps to make sure ur not stalling it
yeah, I've been going hard since I started playing and have made a lot of people question their efficiency/progression but truth is I've just been no-lifing it 
dont too worry too much about it, ppl dont mean it personally here (or most of Discord), also take note the difference of "dont do that, thats a stupid idea" and "dont do that, stupid"
idleon best to minmax and get that lv10k quick slap as fast as possible
big number funny
should i make my maestro 150 level and turn into v man anytime soon? newbie world 5
minor stuff is not that impactfull. but there are ppl trying to crystal farm with a 2* poop and 1* genie, thats a waste compared to just getting the cards
and definitely don't go into endgame talk if criticism upsets you π
if still having enough water for hourly click, you're prob not end game yet
anyone 9999 account level yet? do you think it is gonna be a thing any time soon until 8 worlds come out? having more than 10 characters sound too much. levels going too high also sounds wrong especially for a yet unfinished game.
5k family level is already a hard achievement
lv5000 or around is the reasonable max, or maybe lv5500 if pushing with holy pearls
soon
lv6000 is a hard not legit territory atm
1/10
yeah π
nice to hear
and its the easy one
the hardest part of 5k family level is BB and BM π
im not going for 5000 anytime soon tho, maybe w6
at my stage it would be a complete waste trying to do 5k family
but need that extra DR sparkle obol
yeah I'm not going for 5k unless lava really takes his sweet time with w6
Got my cash multi up more snail 
nice you catching up 
Making ok money now
but havent been overnighting my bubo much lately
mainly just need more gmush
Want my DK at Tremors too 
damn my cash multi needs work
DK at tremors makes 90% of the money that bubo does
My first eclipse 
thats a huge cash multi considering u got so low gmush
if you only need money and don't need liquid then just go DK with a couple money cards
oh wait
lol
my prints arent good enough for more liquid :^(
I called you poor once like a week ago and you made it your life's purpose to increase your money multi π
ig i could keep pressing GT
how much money do u have snail?
uh idk, I have like 400m money multi I think

not at my computer rn
about 20b gmush

I want to drop godshard coins on DK
I think around 1b money multi should do it
To clarify the "focus on alchemy" point: pretty much all of my nblb-affected bubbles are currently around lvl 90-100.
Which ones should I focus on pushing hard now? Quick slap, and the first two in each class? Anything else?
push skilling bubbles for better prints
i would wait with quickslap if other important bubbles need work
quickslap takes a bit of time before it gets good
its not like 300 lvls in quickslap will do much
Yeah, just leveled it 10 times and saw almost no change.
I hate this bubble so much 
I'm sitting around 800m dmg at the moment
i would guess base dmg pot is better untill u get minimum lvl 500 quickslap if not more
most of the time you don't have to get this to 300% because of other sources of multi, just check your woodcutting tab in your talents and check if multi is 3x
its not yet
So far, my approach to alchemy has been to push everything I can farm/print ahead of nblb , so that nblb pushes the yellow bubbles and the trapping/crafting bubbles instead, since those are harder to upgrade. Does that make sense?
for some reason base dmg from pot is different from base dmg from alchemy
yeah
I was spamming claims on my archers to level up this bubble and I realized somewhere around 280% that I was already capped on multi
Ok, so focus on Skilling efficiency, tool power, and multi. Is there a bubble lvl I should be aiming for?
also for dmg, iirc midnight cookie etc gives more dmg than pots
easy to forget about those
and bullets
bubble 2 and severapurple
if lava removed multi-resource bubble cap for once
wanna see trillion oak samples for once
Lol, never even considered midnight cookie might be a consumable.
yeah, when i did Nkruk on vman it helped me get a lil bit extra
coldseeker is huge also, but usually ppl remember that one
man the points needed gets worse and worse. 393 was what %100 chance required previously. now 2000 is just %25 chance.
roughly it gets expensive 10x each. Early on there are some easy multiplier grabs to help you with that tho
i ain't giivn up until i get goharu
then all goes to lab or something
how do you deal with leveling up pushers and such? at some point do you just stop? like you get 80 level on some certain characters but pusher is like 20 level? and you never bother? is that the optimal gameplay? it feels wrong to have some characters stop leveling divinity and lab just because they gotta do sometihng else
Wait till you try n get the goat lol
I leveled lab exclusively with bubo when im not active on him.
Everyone above 100 from doing that.
The stick becomes 430+ and it'll jump from stick to incense worth 2k lol
what level does DK get good at farming? Mines only like 114 atm, lacking skill points. Need some direction
just level up atm?
Its less about level, and more about your damage, multikill, drop rate, and talent points.
yeah i need to get orb higher.. so okay I don't go level how do I get 200 points
well catching my DK up to my ES gets me enough points for the skill. So if I don't level what do I do though
but lvl is not the main factor for farming
Talent stamps and alchemy bubbles that give you talent points are good supplements, but honestly yeah, you do kinda need to level up before youll be able to max a lot of your talent points, since you probably arent gonna be atomming talent point bubbles yet
level just means few more talent points
well catching my DK up to my ele gets me 195 talent points. So shouldn't I do that? while waiting for alch/stamps
I'd say yeah, probably not a bad plan
DK needs talent books and choco chip
nothing wrong with adding a few lvls, just dont spend days and days lvling expecting it to be the key to a good farm
What map are you on? (With your dk)
No where, started w5, dk has been in lab since lol
its fine to level if you know that its basically just talents. Just that its not an all-rounder buff like in some other rpg games
making gear for him and getting him ready
it more about time to make account overall stronger to get an efficient farm
Do you get more xp with him at suggmas or floms?
No idea yet, crafting his last piece of gear so I don't have to swap stuff over like i've been doing. I'll know soon
swapping gear over is getting very old
Although people can rush to w5 easily, it makes a bad habit of teaching people that this game is combat oriented, but actually its more skill (as in town skills) oriented to get strong
yeah for sure
I rushed for doot and it was worth it.
My prints, everything is so so so much better.
If you can leave him active overnight at suggmas or floms and level up like 50 times in a day, then definitely do that for the talent points, but if youre only getting like a few levels a day, I wouldnt bother leveling him yet.
this is actually an Alchemy oriented game and combat is just a skill to get more alchemy bubble clicks
my ES is getting a level an hour almost i assume it'll be decently similar a bit lower
Might be worth it then until you can max orb at least
my next question is how do I get my library books higher than 125 or w/e the cap is?
Fury artifact from the 8/9th island in sailing, and having the rift slug companion
There might be 1 more thing that boosts book levels too but I cant remember
Oh also ES family skill
How does this work? My last character had 2 actions and I chose these for both, but it didnt rewind for my first char.
I honestly don't really know how that works, Ive only done it once, and just kinda picked stuff lol
https://decrox.idleonefficiency.com/
i hate linking this because i know a lot of things are slacking and i have things in my brain i want to finish first, but ideas? i am pretty fresh to w5 and trying to catch up on a lot of stuff with doot
gonna be working on stamps now that i have some money inna bit and fixing my prints for alch/stamps. only done that on a few chars with doot so far, trying to working on getting a chunk of people some gear finally
and tools
Whats the easiest way to get a TON of atoms for PA?
this is not ur link
you need the personal one
i linked decrox how do I link it then
top right, the "person" and public profile
Print a ton of oak logs, copper ore, and flies
Ok cool i thought that was gonna be it but wantes to ask the pros π€£
so stamps/alch i'm doing as I go, having water issues more than materials now. so trying to upgrade my storage / wph for that but outside of alch gonna be doing stamps but i feel like there's otherthings i can do while those 2 are going
get all the stamps u can "easy ones", start CC, get all the vials, salt lick, prints need rework 100%, cooking needs some love,
a few things u need to work on
fairly easy and doable with great benefits
I would go back to previous worlds and do all the quests. Youre missing a ton of stamps
yeah prints are def coming and as for cooking it's been very slow lol as fast as I can do it for just getting w5
yeah doing all the quests is next for decrox
get cabbage asap
trying
use ur vial tries every day
yeah, i slacked on that for awhile.
@spice frigate bro needs to go back and focus hard, so much ez gains in alchemy
bubo skill
What are the ways to increase the amount printed from 3d printer. Theres the lab bonus and harriep diety...wasnt there a 3rd way?
any efficency gains
skill mastery, DK talent, gold relic
oh cranium cooking, gotcha yeah I do that here and there. should do it more. tried leveling my bubo but it was so weak.. so so so weak
yeah, every time its off cooldown atleast
Royal sampler prayer and sample stamps help a lot. But its mainly about getting your chopping/mining efficiency high with alchemy, statues etc
active bubo can CC more
it takes a bit more investment than ES or DK to be crazy powerful
but to start u should do it when off cooldown
@raven vale yeah that's for sure.
Need to go back and put skulls on all your characters
Right but the little symbol next to your printed item(blue dot, purple swirl, gold star)...dot is lab and star is harriep where is the swirl from or am i just dumb?
specifically which bubble should I work on right now?
can level up using balloons for baseline exp at the totems
there's so many
everything to level 5 minimum for NBLB
Swirl is when you have both at once
okay
So whats the gold star for then?
Thats if you have harriep active, but dont have that player in the lab
Ok thanks...i now have both active haha. I are the big dumb
No problem, thats a big reason doot is so good. You automatically get a purple swirl on everyone without having to have anyone in the lab
Yeah now i need to have my main chopping character in lab instead of div...big sad
But on the bright side im printinf 52m oak logs and 32m birch lol
Nice, thats not bad at all.
Thanks
And really youre printing 600mil oak per hour since its 2 slots and purple swirl multiplies each by 6
Nah thats 52m total, got the number from Idle efficiency lol
Ah, do you have the fury relic?
For max talent book...no not yet i had all my boats on first island for 2 weeks and couldnt even get the tusk relic for artifact gain lol...thankfully i got it randomly today
Nice, Id try to get fury as soon as possible and then start maxing your chopping and skill efficiency skills. Those will boost your prints a lot. Also the multitool stamp is really good. If you dont have the rift thing that makes all skillimg cards passive yet, that also helps a lot
Yeah i have pissive cards and no that wasnt a typo haha
Although it woukd help if the character im using for samples wasnt 200 levels behind everyone else lol
I have the skills maxed but theyre all max 100
Yeah definitely rush for fury. Having those talents at 300+ makes a big difference lol.
Does using the exp converter work for gaming? Saying i get 400 xp per 100 gaming xp and gaming xp is ALOT
I don't think it works for non active skills, but I could be wrong. Never really used it before
I tried it and it didnt seem to do anything
But it lets me choose it with converter so like wtf
Its just lava oversignt of being able to set converter on gaming
But it does nothing
Else we will be class leveling to 1000 off of it
Lame...he should allow it haha
Is there a general rule of thumb for what GT level you need before pseudo "softcapping" on leveling? Like when my GT was 2000, I basically stopped leveling around 450. Now its a little over 3000, and I have basically stopped leveling around 480-490. Is there like a chart or anything you know of that correlates GT level with "max" character level?
10k gt gets you something near 50x exp so people kind of aim for that
But there isnt any real break point
With 10k GT, at what level would it start taking you more than a day of active wurms to level up?
Depends on the class, but exp easy classes (dk, bubo) starts to be 1 level a day around 510 ish, and other around 470 ish
damage difference is soooo huge >_>
Really? So the level 600+ people have like 50k GT or something lol?
Yeah my ES was way stronger than all my other guys for a long time, and still is, but my other guys have been catching up lately. Now most of them have at least half as much damage as my ES.
Before ES & DK were added there wasn't much to active on except bubo right? So I wouldn't be surprised
Yeah, I didnt really start activing at all until a few months ago, so I guess my GT is just severely lacking from all that wasted time lol
Oh I didn't even start playing until January so my GT is definitely lacking too, I've just never dedicated the time to it with all the benefits of active ES & DK to manage too
Same. By the time I realized just how good activing really was, DK and ES were already out. I actived on my bubo for a few days and was mind blown by how much money, xp, and alchemy gains I was getting, but then I switched to DK so I could work on vials and statues
Had the same issue, I don't understand how it works
600 requires alot, but with 50k gt it might be possible yes
My exp multiplier around like 52-55x has highest DK at lv560, GT at around 12k
I guess Ive had my bubo at wurms longer than I realized then lol, cause he's 488 with 3.1k GT and probably like 16x exp multiplier lol. My DK also went from 380-480 in what seemed like less than a week though, so I just figured if I had 10k GT Id be able to get to like 550ish fairly easily lol
550 at 10k wont be like βdone overnightβ easy, but its doable after farming at wurms for a month or two
Alright, Ill start focusing on GT then and try to get it to at least 10k. I mostly just want a total level of 5000 for that last obol slot
Is the Gold Pocketwatch worh it?
What is the gold pocketwatch?
The new W2 boss shop
its super worth
To a point you shouldnt trade anything else besides that from weekly fights
Is there something I should do before buying it?
Not much
This are all the Boni u get from Gold Pocketwatch
only other thing u might want from the shop is star talent
other than that gold stopwatch al the way
All those UI look super bad for now imo. But if there is a cheap 25 Trophy one I like I will give up a Gold Stopwatch
For a mere 30 trophies
Although just speculation, but it also has potential for another round of 50/50 items during seasonal events
Hopefully 
Also the current Boss Battle should give 4 Trophies and 10% dmg outside of Boss Battle each day iirc
Should get another Stopwatch by the end of the week
U would need to reset like 4 times with different ways. Or some buff needs to give more than 1 Trophy
Don't think it is realistically possible
Well if those actions are seeded, there might be one day where theres 30 misc trophies along with gold watch in the shop
Wait maybe I can rewind the Boss Battle 2 times this week. There was a 9x Attack rewind right?
2 Misc is really easy to get and the others could always attack. Maybe 6 Trophies a Day
Thats basically what happened with gold bar incident where lava seeded in 0 (gold bar) as the trade-able item when he fed in seeded random generated numbers
This rotation is probably impossible for 30 trophies, but who knows which one of the future ones are infinite (or like close infinite with 29 a day)
Yeah we just have to pray
Most of the resets are one time use in the run, would be surprised if infinite was possible
Or lava completely forgets and does likes βhappy weekly battle hour! All items are 1/2 cost!β
Yeah, but you got trophies for killing the boss for the first time
After that u only get Trophies from Misc stuff
Even if a rotation that can get 20 trophies a day would be a real good buy
And damage outside of Boss Battle
Then u reset on last character and get more Trophies + Damage
DMG is optional, but its something to do as might as well
It actually gives you 5% damage all the time for each one you click?
For this week
That seems really good
Damage outside of the minigame yes
I went from Around 220b to 250b
since its a week, kind of whatever unless you plan to do any rift or ES farming
I will abuse that and do Vman NM Kattle at the end of the Week
Oh you lose the damage gains next week?
Should hopefully get 100% Snakeskin Vial and deposit all Kachow this week
NM Kattle will be a breeze 
Deposit all your statues, do not use the deposit all button
You don't read the Info?
Yes they will be lost after this week
putting points into first and second skill needed? i have slug
Yeah no, didnt read that lol
But Lava fixed Yellow Bubble 3 right? I can just deposit my Kachow manually without needing to seperate them
Just dont βdeposit allβ before putting statues in storage
Can you really only get 30 of those a day from the picnic quest?
Statues that are βdeposit allβ from inventory, skips onyx bonus
You get 10k per character from the mono quest
Never gonna deposit all until Lava fixes it
If from storage, they are fine
Oh didnt realize it was per character lol
deposit all itself is fine
So you get 20k for onyx and another 80k to stick in
what should I do with these last points? get a book for one of those skills or rest into str?
Just dont do it from inventory
Pretty sure it's 100k
oh i need to put 1 in the first 3
I may be blind
U get 100k if you do it on all chars
Startue Exp was completely fixed at some point, so no point of dividing into smaller stacks
10k x 10
Why do you have 131 wis and 32 luk on a warrior?
Oh okay
your claim of βi have slugβ isnt really doing much btw
Still, thats a lot of wis lol
slug = +25 to all skills
like yeah it gives 25, but such a low book overall
yeah he needs it all. not much else i can do with it anyways
Its irrelevant info for us to give advice
Fight afk gains and str could use those points
That's squire right?
well I have enough to max str and I don't really afk fight on this much
It was relevant to this though, they have 31 points in luk because they have slug, they only spent 1 point. Think they were just answering the question π
Level 2nd bubble for warriors / level the potion for more meatshank
Can't remember whether bb or dk gets the more meatshank
k just got that to 27, ty
Unless you literally active on him at all times, Id still go for fight afk gains.
yeah I am active, but i will use these last 18 to get it to 50
This really isnβt a world 5 question tbh
Itβs extremely easy to get far more tab 1 points than you have even at early game, so the easy answer is to just get more tab 1 points and not worry about what youβre maxing out, as ultimately the answer is βeverythingβ
yeah just speccing him right now though. and not messing it up lol
Also if youβre in world 5 then donβt worry about the minute differences between luck and mana and just let the character go afk on suggmas, youβll gain so many levels so quickly that you can fill out the rest of the things that matter to BB and DK (at least until you start booking skills, which it looks like you havenβt)
i'm not really worrying about luck and mana, i just put 1 point in them
Through you should also check notable zones in world 4 as they may provide better exp
i've booked all my important skills at this point.
Id say you should focus on the shaquaracy bubble, so you can take all those points out of wis and put them in strength
str is maxed as far as I can currently
Whats your tab 3 and 4 look like?
these two will be most useful long term over what you haven't levelled
but obviously you have no tab1 points left to capitalise from it yet
yeah prolly dump in fist for my future levels so i'm not sitting there unable to use any
here's where i'm really stumped, gonna put a point in most useful things to get slug affect then maybe max out the orb first
Orb: high as you can (stop at 267, for future you)
statue: As higha s you can
Hand: 1 point
boomerang: 1 point for now, more later
shockwave slash: As mucha s you can
kinda where i was leaning sakori
i m stuck in rift 34 for some time. How can I go faster killing mobs?
I think you can also respec again, then max this, then respec again, and your max meatshank level will still be as high as it was before without having to put any points into the vial skill again. How useful doing that would be depends on the level of your bubble 2 though.
doesn't that scale with the bubble level ye?
yeah i gained a ton of range from this
It raises the max level of meatshank based on the bubble level, but the max level of your meatshank doesnt get reset when you respec, so you can double respec to basically get the vial talent max without having to put points in it
ah i see interesting
Like I have 0 points in fuschia flasks rn, but I can still raise that one to 467
well if my bubble level isn't even 30 does that matter or am i missing something
Yeah in that case I dont think it matters
is it worth to do vial drops on a specific person?
Hello, if I have Doot, is there any point in linking to a divinity at all ?
As you raise bubble 2 higher then do it as needed
Just tiger on at least 1 guy
I don't have tiger yet, only up to goat so far. And what does tiger changes ?
One of his bonuses only works with someone actually linked to him, but for your other 9 guys it doesnt matter. I just have them all linked to kruk and badger which do nothing.
ok, thanks for the tip !
oh nice i got the cooking ring / boots now
yay, finally a complete DK attack page. I know orb is slightly too high, ES/Bear got me π
highest book i can get is 125 though
get higher books
idk how i asked earlier one person said "idk"
The max book in w3 was 160, based on stuff you unlock purely in w3
W3 library
W5 added 50 levels, with another 35 being added in a later update
w3 library upgrade in construction or something? otherwise it maxs out at 125 for me
You /definitely/ need to spend more time in w1-4
wdym it's timegated
192k is like 2 days of building lol
i've not neglected construction at all ever lol
here's where i'm at, atm
your concept of βnot neglectedβ is likely βspent hardly any time in itβ for others
nah i always have something building
arms almost done, next shrines almost done, party starter almost done then figuring out what to put next
Any case, you are still in the very early stage where you cant claim you worked on it
i need frigid souls, so i've been going for towers
wdym?
i'm literally doing cogs and having something going 24/7
refines are all almost 5 now, gonna do the second page, i've been very active on all of that
finally remembered where hte other book levels in w3 come from lol
people tend to forget i was in w3 like a week ago, so it's gonna take time lol
You are like in the position of being the 3rd day in the military and say you served in the military your entire life
I'm not really sure what you're getting at or what I did wrong but alright
You are technically not wrong, but wrong implication
You're implying I neglect construction and i'm telling you I haven't once neglected it, not one time. That's one thing i've kept up with 100% of the time because it's easy.
Have i made questionable upgrades? Yes, but i'm always trying to level things and make the next item.
Okay sorry, ill rephrase. your construction is still too weak.
Facts
anyone getting artifacts at 0.07% chance or any tips for increasing it?
thats high in a way. Wait till you see 0.01%
f man, havent had an artifacts in months it feels like
The later island eldritches goes to like 0.01% so likely isnt much else you can do but get fractal island for the 1.2x
And most people finished without fractal island, so even that is not mandatory
Will try for that then, anything that can help right hehe. Only have 9 eldritch to go so we'll see how long that takes 
Do note the sailing bonus from fractal will also cost you 2500hrs of candies
Its additive with the tusk artifact bonus, so not a direct 1.2x multiplier
Its more like one more tier of tusk
Probably wont do too much when hte values are already low
Like the 0.07% will become 0.08%. A big increase in relative, but can also be seen as just a mere 0.01%
Issue is, yeah the cost of bottles and candies
its a 14.3% marginal increase from 7 to 8
meanwhile 2 to 3 is a 50% increase, which is why tent lv200 is seen as a big milestone or breakpoint
or or also with diamond dish bubble value, maginal increase is always 20-30% per dish so every level doesnt feel it has diminishing marginal returns unlike linear level
not that linear increase is bad, just gonna stack numbers up higher and higher as with hourly click bubbles
1% per plate level from vman talent is similarly amazing
Even with the buff being lower than expected
Is also why construct level is king because of carpenter bubble
sweet, bubo no longer dies to crystal spawns in wurms, time to spam that sometime soon
seem hardstuck at around 400m damage, are there any easy damage sources? just started greenstacking w1
You guys think it's safe to open the Guild Giftboxes? Or will they be a part of something in a later update?
theyre used for a jewel or something if i remember correctly
Even if they would be, how should we know? XD
Also you get new ones again every week, just use them - so far theyre only for lab jewels in w4 and youll only need 2 for that
okok
i need to do more greenstacks sometime soon, havent done most of w3 onward yet
Use if you need gems as theres more guild boxes where it came from
Yessss, YESSSS
mega grats
i need to get my nblb procs more targeted
would highly recommend
not massive gains but it's a start
the brewstachio feels bad to do and my other higher tier ones arent super high prio. maybe getting the production mats out of range would be good tho
production mats from printer, and W1-3 Monster mats with vman prints, hit vials at the same time
sadly that carpenter atoming ends like in a day or two due to having a very low 90% cap
Still feels nice right this secondn
When does unending loot search become better than not having it
i should redo my vman prints sometime soon, i thought i had steaks on there but i guess i deleted it last time i did a run for dumb stuff :c
Guess I should bomb Bob bubble for a few weeks
Is it like 7hrs?
Closer to like a day tbh
Nice, a day was like "a feel" to me, I'd never done the maths
Good to know I was on the right track π
unending sailing is actually just a βfull sailing exp for less chestβ in simple terms
How many hampters do you guys get an hour?
0
meaning most are way done with that and dont remember
You're done when you finish vial

Does this apply if I use Omniphau
Only... more than billion Hampters to go
Hey. I just unlock Nobisect. All my team is really low level and except for the pusher only in the Elite Class map. Is this OK to switch to Nobi from Arctis for the time I finish W4 and everyone to gain some level and then go back to be a div slave? Or maybe Sneh is better to gain more ressources and exp on my way to do that?
does shiny pets colour have other statics?
Dont hold me to this, but i think you are supposed to switch nearly everyone to div, unlock everything them move on? Or maybe just through bear then switch.
Nobisect is good for pushing but if you are underpowered it's not worth pushing too hard anyway
Alright, just for the chow/zow then!
Yeah, it's gonna be mostly for killcount stuff until you want to push w5 which you don't need to rush too much, although it's worth going to at least oranges for the souls and for the best farming map
I'm not sure the Meta. The thing is that I rush hard so I feel under-leveled and I can't put a lot of talents point while divinity or I can't do a lot when I active (cash, cards, etc...)
rushing to bear is meta, the issue not figuring it out is not the inherent downside of it
though now once you got bear, have some char grind level while some going back to level some cards
I still use bear more than I should
Doot would be a great for me just to stop me playing inefficiently π₯²
does droprate or multikill affect fishing catches? tryin to get a high print for a fish but it's not working out
Neither
Afk%, fishing speed, multicatch tier, multifish bubbles and the 4 weighted colours are all that impact it
Fishing speed is uncapped so stack them food buffs
right food, ty
Hi guys what's the ideal placement for a 6 man lab setup?
You can move the left guy to change which gem is active, so I only take top left when using ladles for example
Get doot and it wont matter π lol
yeah just get it, ez
I got him a few weeks ago, still no rift slug though
True gamers have neither
also if needing extra char not in lab or using bear, could omit out the 5th char in that pic, lose dounle vial and some green jewels tho, but still keeping most of lab utility like x3 refinery, nblb, etc
All I want for christmas is ||one more food slot||
i want two
its entirely possible you had a snapshot from your other character carrying over to your sb
Two if W6 has a new speed potions 
new god, two more food slots and 100% food effect (multiplicative
or rather 2x
1 more speed pot added would mean tons of dmg, same with more food effect bonuses
i wounder if its even a god idea to add, lol
never even used a speed spot. it that good?
yes
yeah 100% going to get some lol
you would allways want 350 movement speed
on SB they are massive given that they gain a lot of power from speed
been moving at 112% forever
and it helps your other chars to easily fill the kph of the maps
never even knew it increased kph
but for now you will benefit massively from speed alone
base kph is based on map size, mob respawn and your move speed to cover the map distance as fast as possible and of course your dmg
would have been huge on my DK lmao
Even with boosted move speed food how the hell.
Just run faster π§
Mostly from Onyx statues + Vman talent
Ah my bad.
Speaking of which, I can get one more feasty level 
I lack 4 statues as onyx and i got the vman talents at 245
I guess statue levels after getting all onyx
it's genuinely just from the food boosts tbh
need to work on my feasty
at what point do you guys think its not "worth it" to push it
wtf lol
π ±οΈeans forever
obviously but at 50 mill for a lvl for example its probably not the best time spent
What else you gonna do, farm something that isn't beans?
wurms π
Is there such a thing?

Right?
after getting all capes and trophies, you will eventually gravitate towards beans
Vman flexing, are we? 
yes
need those foods to push some misc stamps
its not super high, i think my feasty is somewhere between 220-230
I guess one thing to remember is that people farm beans for months with a 2x statue multiplier
It's now 7x
So there's more reason to push it for months more now
I mean, life is basically π ±οΈeans - CC - π ±οΈeans - Repeat
Is there somewhere I can see my trimmed slot speed
Sometimes you can do colo, but it feels wrong to stay away from π ±οΈeans
Or do I just have to calculate it
im impressed by the rate my DK eats coldseeker bullets at 99 nonconsume
Primarily for food% but it's all gains
Feasty, speed, HP and chopping/mining statues; Hotdogs and leaves
Oh yeah... you could probably green stack hot dogs
π ±οΈeans (Crystals) just have so many good drops
I should really go back to farm beans
Hotdogs... peanuts...gold peanuts one day
You could, potentially
Takes too long to craft peanuts tho 
You gotta step-farm more greenstucks

is there a point in redoing? if i beat the boss
I could probably also green stack the subs but I am way too lazy
Can pick up more misc bonuses
Yes, miscs give trophies and there's a % damage one too
The damage misc is a multi, but it resets at the end of the week
The damage one only last until the week ends doesn't it?
Yeah but it's surprisingly good
I feel like there should've been card drops from that
If you redo, can you tell me what skill/character is the % damage misc?
Hehe
Those were the worst
800T? Damn that nuts
are the gold stopwatch worth it?
Yes, they're OP
Yeah they are great
I'd recomend to save them for W6
Definetly worth it
But I want to save for W6
hmm im considering some cosmetics aswell tho lol
Not worth, stopwatches just too good
silver ones too?
They are so good, that not even drip is worth
No idea
What the silver one even do?
is there a wiki page for the new mechanic?
now how does this work?
the droprate one seems good
But than again the silver watch is 2 trophies
Seems like it
Depend
I might buy them and get gold watch and save for W6
Also the drop rate talent is kinda nuts
That's an easy 62% drop rate
Yeah but rng level 1-100
knowing my luck then i will need to buy 20
That's pretty good luck
...Does the bobjoepickle vial influence the nothing island?
That would actually be a sick idea, should probably suggest that 
How can i get this?
it's one of the rewards from weekly battles
hasn't come into rotation yet
it's probably not very good
At least from the way it reads, [Bored to Death] only increases AFK gains if you are getting killed (because it is reducing YOUR respawn timer) while AFK because you run out of food π That doesn't happen after the Autoarm
food upgrade
Jackbot arcade!
Yeah that book is completely useless
The drop rate on the other hand is top tier
placeholder talent that was made along with HP po box and unfortunately didnt get shipped along with the po box
So heh construction obols only work while active?
basically yeah its an active obol
So it isn't that good than?
Well con is only calculated while active too so it makes sense
you can technically snap shot it, but its real good if used properly
Its bad if you just been randomly giving it to your afking DK
So like I can use drop rate obols than switch to con obols and I would still get all the gains?
Or like switch from a character that is using it
So after active session I should switch to con obol before opening construction
Itβs slightly bit complicated, but the general idea yes.
For the snapshot you put con obols on an afk character and you swap from them to your active character before you start farming
As long as you dont change maps or open your cog board you retain the effect of the con obols
Hmm
Is anyone else getting a bug that sets both of your presents to the same thing
Cause the other day I had a combat and Skilling one and after I left the Skilling afk the combat preset was replaced
if changing device or cloud save failure, maybe
Feels bad man
Guys why the picture channel is deleted? The one for the gem contest
What are the chances to get 100% on divinity? Ive rolled the left side at least 10 times with 0 100%s
Its completely random
100% not worth it, keep slamming away on the left
believe in the heart of the cards
Bad luck I guess
But personally I think 25% is best
Guys why the gem contest picture channel is deleted, I cant upload my weekly boss screenshot
no idea
Ah thanks man!
Yeah I think I should update, Its been a year
Is everyone just spending all troupies on gold stopwatch?
yea
What is the best set for getting high samples for fishing?
and saving future trophies for the next gold watch rotation
However, not using the gold watches yet. Waiting till next season event for a possibility of resetting 50/50 box drops
If I'm AFK farming for a rare item. Let's say... hampters.
Should I have midas touch on? Assuming obviously that the added HP still keeps me above 1x. Does multikill impact ability to get rare drops while AFK?
yeah I know. That's my active plan. but for my other characters if I wanted to speed line it
If on other characters like obviously use midas as mk doesnt affect rares
ok perfect. thanks
It wasn't needed before because I was using them to hustle up some purple death note skulls. But now that that's over I'm ok not getting the kills if it means more of those sweet sweet hampters
Wait so I shouldn't use Midas if I active afk on ES
No because it impacts the wormhole monsters too and so you get a lower wormhole number. The longer you spend not killing wormhole creatures the less total respawns on whole map
Well good to know
Also what the best way to get high samples on Kraken?
My sample is like 70K
I mean, food boost effect and all three boost foods for fishing is the highest source of numbers other than your fishing level
Because your display will show 1/sec but it can actually be faster than that with food boost, and sample will recognize it being faster than that
But other than the normals of following the guide, you'll want to compare things like purple depth ring and skelefish amulet to see if you get more krakens specifically with purple depth gear.
The depth rings are definitely better than rex rings
Skullfish pendant used to be better than persephones for krakens but I doubt its worth using now if you have the kruk scarf
My samples were 3 weeks ago, but the Kruk scarf blew Skullfish out of the water in my tests
4 more levels on my BB and I'll be finding out myself.
I see many people ask if those omar rings are any good, but its actually bis for those respective depth fishes
finally beat one all the way through
Skullfish was better (for me) on bloach, but worse than scarf for kraken.
But it was so close that it barely mattered
question on breeding

