lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[signal osprey]

Thats ES specific though. DK doesnt care about damage at all and hes the best pick for besically every obol other than pop

[hidden sphinx]

Literally don’t use es for any other obol than pop

Not worth spending the time actively farming the w3 skilling obols with es

Can just dk farm them and you get an annoying amount from alch obols as well

[hidden grove]

choco is freaking crazy holy shit

I just killed 12 carrots in a row

[gritty sierra]

I forgot.... which classes need their family guy talent maxed?

[sharp ruin]

Anyone else on iOS having lots of crashing issues recently? Hoping there’s an easy fix 😅

[green eagle]

🎉

[hidden sphinx]

Is it that worth putting mail into encourage snail?

[gritty sierra]

Where the hell do you get the snail

[lavish cloak]

top row next to the water sprinkler

[gritty sierra]

Ahhhh that's right

Tyty

[lavish cloak]

i made it to level 15, then purchased the atom upgrade that makes it impossible to reset below level 15, then yolo'd until 18, now it's time to encourage to 20 again

[signal osprey]

Yolo to 20

[lavish cloak]

my luck with doot rolls has crushed any semblance of confidence in the odds.

[hidden sphinx]

So you basically yolod till 15

[lavish cloak]

i yolo'd to 12 and then ran out of nerve

[hidden sphinx]

Fairs

[signal osprey]

You use all the bad luck on doot so that you can yolo the snail

[gritty sierra]

I remember there being two classes that have to have their family guy talent maxed... is blood zerker one of them?

[lavish cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/its-just-how-it-works-kanan-gill-its-how-it-should-be-thats-how-you-do-it-its-right-way-to-do-it-gif-19414376

[hidden sphinx]

Yo I’m still thinking about contacting lava about the missing npc token. Anyone got an idea for the best channel to try through?

[signal osprey]

It works for me. 21 snail soon

[gritty sierra]

I pray for thee

[lavish cloak]

when i hit 20, it's yolo to 24 time

[signal osprey]

Takes like 3 weeks on average to hit 21 lol

Good luck getting to 24

[lavish cloak]

better than 3 weeks of encouraging just to fail the upgrade roll

[signal osprey]

For sure thats why I wont encourage ever

[hidden sphinx]

I genuinely don’t remember anyone saying certain classes need family guy maxed pretty sure it’s best to just max it on all chars (of the highest lvl for that class)

[signal osprey]

But I also probably wont hit 24 ever

The snail wasnt designed to be maxed.

[lavish cloak]

i maxxed the family guy talents of my 8th 9th and 10th characters as they were dupes of other classes and could afford to have talent points hung up in family talents as opposed to solo talents that aided active play

[signal osprey]

Not just on the highest for that class max it on everyone

[hidden sphinx]

I thought it only counted if they were highest class level of that class

[signal osprey]

Family guy only applies to that character lol

[lavish cloak]

i had not thought to test this particular data

[signal osprey]

Because reasons I guess

[lavish cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/terrible-design-marques-brownlee-awful-design-horrible-design-gif-26601256

[hidden sphinx]

For some reason, and idk why cause it’s super easy to check, I’ve thought it applied to everyone

[signal osprey]

Nope even if its on the highest of that class the extra bonus from family guy is personal only

[hidden sphinx]

Fairs

Not like I noticed it not working like I thought, so

Didn’t miss out on anything I thought I should be

[signal osprey]

Yeah its not super important on anyone but ES anyway

[hidden sphinx]

Doesn’t refinery speed increase on dk?

[iron knot]

Anyone know where to find updated Vman rift route?

[signal osprey]

Yeah but the inherent bonus isnt huge so family guy wont add much

[stoic silo]

how many kph do I need for it to be worth zow'ing rift 1?

[signal osprey]

Plus most sources of refinery speed are additive anyway so it wont do a whole lot

[hidden sphinx]

Given that it takes over 20 days for green to go from 17-18

It’ll make like a few hours difference right?

[signal osprey]

Family guy will probably shave a few minutes off lol

Maybe an hour

[hidden sphinx]

Damn a few minutes

Useless

[gritty sierra]

Hmmm I see I see

[signal osprey]

Yeah if you have that points theres no reason not to take it but the only family guy thats actually really strong is on ES

[gritty sierra]

OK might as well max out then

[signal osprey]

The rest just get small bonuses

[hidden sphinx]

Hours is good for me cause I normally check on every char every 2-4 hours for bonus sailing and gaming boosts

[naive shard]

Does anyone have the excel that has guides for most parts of the game?

[hidden sphinx]

I’ve heard someone had saved a copy before the original got replaced but idk if that’s true

[iron knot]

Anyone know where vman speedrun guide is pinned?

I cant find it

[naive shard]

somone posted it here like couple days ago I lost it tho :/

[hidden sphinx]

There’s a Reddit thread for it, dk if it’s the most recent one though

[signal osprey]

The vman guide should be in tips and tricks. No idea for the excel guide

[muted slate]

#1134957219889303552 message think its this

[fallow aurora]

are there bosses that drop more gems than others? wanna farm gems for random cape from gem shop

[signal osprey]

No its a fixed rate for every boss

[fallow aurora]

ty

[midnight pebble]

3/10

[vagrant mountain]

I like my construction layout

[signal osprey]

Dont listen to them you have the correct layout

Except for the random red cog you had on the board. That shits gotta go

[paper sail]

1 star, layout sucks!

[vagrant mountain]

[vagrant mountain]

there's 2

[signal osprey]

[paper sail]

My board is probably half red

[signal osprey]

[paper sail]

Every time i think i should stop, I get a new top exp% that is red

[vagrant mountain]

I just stopped clicking red

[signal osprey]

The correct choice

[paper sail]

I even have a couple of yellows

[old coyote]

is there a gem farming guide?

[vagrant mountain]

one of them is 104% so it'll take me a while to get rid of it

[vagrant mountain]

in #1084911530417606656

[signal osprey]

Back to cog clicker for you

[clear quartz]

think its almost time for me to do a po box reset on dk, whats the breakpoint on orb vs the cooldown thing?

[signal osprey]

That thing is gonna haunt me in my sleep tonight

Thank you for that image

[clear quartz]

i liked it

[vagrant mountain]

I don't even know where it came from, I was just typing on my phone and my screen rotated

[signal osprey]

The sticker said excited but he didnt look very excited to me

[vagrant mountain]

I was gonna say it wouldn't be so bad if it didn't white screen randomly

[signal osprey]

Yeah that can get pretty annoying when it does it a lot

[paper sail]

I don't want to break my obol snap 😦

[signal osprey]

But I need another 500% for my 11k board

[signal osprey]

Its an investment

The cogs give those long term gains in exchange for giving up the snap

[paper sail]

I try to do it during Bubo and ccd

[signal osprey]

Yeah most of mine were done during bubo as well

Not sure. I've never used the web browser for anything

[vagrant mountain]

web browser is surprisingly the fastest client

[paper sail]

I play my Alt on browser, but it lags so gd bad I can't be asked to care. It is an AFK only account lol

[signal osprey]

Only 2 more colo runs

[vagrant mountain]

the only problem with web browser is that if you desync more than 2 mins, it forces an afk claim window and your character stops moving

[pearl cedar]

I'm almost running out of excuses not to resample

[pearl cedar]

For real?

[signal osprey]

Thats holy pearl range

[broken cape]

Is it worth me letting plants get to tier 5 in gaming right away for the log book? It seems to take forever

[vagrant mountain]

from what I've seen yeah

so ES can only active like 30 mins kek

[paper sail]

I get that if the browser tab loses focus for too long

[pearl cedar]

They'll happen naturally to be honest, and if you're not sub like 3-5 minutes with rock on it will take for ever

[broken cape]

Alright, thank you!

[pearl cedar]

T5 will definitely happen naturally, t6 takes a while of targetted approach

[broken cape]

Just kind of at a standstill with gaming right now, takes a long time to get 1 green bit so can't get next import, all upgrades seem marginal

[pearl cedar]

Sounds like a small nugget problem

[signal osprey]

Its almost time for me to start trying for T7

[broken cape]

at 2,200 right now. rarely even role over 100 though

[pearl cedar]

Just get a bigger nugget, it makes gaming go faster

[paper sail]

Stacking marginal upgrades is a lot of Gaming progression

[broken cape]

Alright, should I be upgrading shovel then?

[pearl cedar]

Yeah but it doesn't help cause you'll never roll a big nugget cause why would that be an option

[broken cape]

Alright, so just gotta get lucky

[pearl cedar]

I think nerfus has one

[vagrant mountain]

one time I rolled a big nug and then I woke up

[signal osprey]

Well so much for getting the first T7

Guess I'm done with gaming until W6

[pearl cedar]

I'll try for t7 when I get sub like 1.5minute time

[signal osprey]

100 more W2 colo done. Thats definitely enough for today

[pearl cedar]

Think of all the missed ladles

[signal osprey]

I plan on switching to W4 after I finish my biggie green stack

[pearl cedar]

How many colo runs is it for biggie stack?

Or more specifically how many you getting per run

[signal osprey]

Close to 5k per run lol

[pearl cedar]

Oh that's not even bad

If he would just get rid of the resource nodes so you could do like 4 runs an orb

[signal osprey]

Up to this so far

Only about 1400 more runs to go

[junior copper]

what can pong controller do? do we earn anything if we play it?

[wind umbra]

the higher ur highsocre in pong, the higher ur bit multiplier is

[old coyote]

is there a guide on how to farm gems?I was told theres one in tips n tricks but couldnt find it

[junior copper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLDdzmFXrk8

[rugged fulcrum]

how do you set 2nd active div for ES

[old coyote]

its based on the level of the talent

theres a guide on wiki iirc

[signal osprey]

There a pinned image that covers it as well

[wind umbra]

Is there a point of doing the weekly boss thing daily? Seems like im not getting any extra trophies from it

[sharp wind]

DR star talent, gold pocketwatch

Rotation shop tho

[wind umbra]

yes but doesnt seem to give extra trophies if u already did it this week

[old crane]

I've heard you only get 2 chances per week? Only reason to do again is try to get better score

[sharp wind]

I think i got around 20 trophies without even killing the boss

[spice frigate]

does x2 portal kills work offline?

[sick sentinel]

There was an update that supposedly fixed not refreshing daily. Havent tested myself but the update was yestersay

[sharp wind]

And you can buy from gemshop too, if u have gems tho

[sick sentinel]

Some of the options can be to pick up extra trophies

[wind umbra]

I killed it completlyfirst day and when i killed it again today it gave me no extra trophies

[sick sentinel]

It only gives you credit for your furthest round

[wind umbra]

damn thought u would be able to get 30-40 ish trophies per day

guess its only per week

[sick sentinel]

That would be busted haha, if only

[wind umbra]

yeah but i dont see a point of daily resets if u dont get any rewards from it

[sick sentinel]

I messed up my first time around cause i ran through the options without thinking

[wind umbra]

but i guess it gives some ppl more chances

[sick sentinel]

Hope it reset to do again

[wind umbra]

yeah i think if u update ur game

the next reset should reset for u

[sick sentinel]

Ye ima go try

[wind umbra]

mine still showed as rip but when i went to it, there was a button to try again

[sick sentinel]

niice yeah its there for me now

[wind umbra]

nice gl

buff and misc seem to be best

[heavy moth]

so the update of today was to fix the daily reset ?

[wind umbra]

ye think so

[heavy moth]

didnt give me a try as today but next daily reset in 1 hours

hope itll reset

[sick sentinel]

fuuuck i misread my option and screwed my run lol

[signal osprey]

Mine happened after reset

[sick sentinel]

me big scrub

oh well, at least new boss tomorrow

[brazen cliff]

Is it worthwhile to minmax the 100k kachow statues by depositing the amount each level and not just throwing the whole wad in, even assuming double deposit procs?

[lament jasper]

entering glizzy overdrive

[sick sentinel]

Do you habe 100% on double deposit?

All other statues onyx?

[brazen cliff]

20%, all onyx.

[sick sentinel]

I'd wait til 100% double deposit cause its not thaaat important rn

[brazen cliff]

I know that the startue only applies to the current level and doesn't carry over.

[signal osprey]

That was fixed

There is a new bug with deposit all not applying the extra statues from onyx bonus

After some testing it looks like its just from your inventory though. Any statues in storage chest get the full bonus

[brazen cliff]

I can't believe Lava would fix that bug

Wait, what was the double deposit modifier?

[signal osprey]

Snake skin vial

[brazen cliff]

Ahh right. I guess I maxed that vial already.

[signal osprey]

I don't get it either but I was getting 7x on the ones in storage and 2x on the ones in my inventory

So for whatever reason thats just a thing now lol

Yeah clicking deposit all in chest and then deposit all at statue man is still a lot better than what we used to have

[brazen cliff]

Last one took about 40 days but finally finished.

[true obsidian]

doesn't need to upgrade now right?

[old coyote]

Cape in gemshop is worth buying if f2p right

[true obsidian]

uhm...yes? but if you hit amarok, that just a waste

[brazen cliff]

Ehhhhhhhh, notrly

Amarok is big oof, other bosses are meh, event capes are situationally joocy.

[true obsidian]

Easter egg, Chizor, Amarok, you don't want to hit any of these 3 capes.

that 3/13 capes

[sick sentinel]

Dr molten, gold rose, all stat rose, purple wings are all very good

[true obsidian]

there also meh-mid capes too...and i think it not worth more than 250 gems

[brazen cliff]

I spun and got efant cape. Moderately let down.

[sick sentinel]

Can farm blue gems at least so basically free

Can reroll the hyper obols

[brazen cliff]

Hyper obols are cool for slab, albeit spendy.

A nickel says Lava will do so as part of w6

[signal osprey]

I hope he does. I want my full pink dice page

[spice frigate]

What did u guys push w5 with?

[rough wasp]

I did bubo

[spice frigate]

idk what i'm doing wrong with bubo but mine hits like a noodle lol

[mint creek]

i gotta grind some exp on my siegebreaker, can 1shot mobs, you think big wormies is the best? its not super flat so i have a hard time maxing out flag

[rough wasp]

Bubo takes a while to ramp

[spice frigate]

ah, right forgot about that

[rough wasp]

I like Citringes

[mint creek]

ill give it a shot, thanks gang <3

im gonna clock both for an hour and come back and update u guys :D

[signal osprey]

Datamined

[opaque sun]

Some of the trash island stamps were those existed, but was in “pending”

[untold saffron]

All this talk of the cape gamble had me feeling spicy, 10/10 would gamba again

[clear shoal]

Can anyone help explain something? I can't get my recipe for my world 5 fist weapons and I have 243 million kills and it still won't drop has anyone else encountered this?

[untold saffron]

Thats not abnormal, its just rare

[crisp silo]

not rly about number of kills, cause MK dosent affect rare drops, more accurate counter is royal urns

[untold saffron]

Was it @tacit tulip who went over a billi?

[crisp silo]

lmao

[clear shoal]

I have 705 royal urns and 54 mil of the ashes

[crisp silo]

i think ppl have said more than 1k urns is around the time it shld start dropping

not too sure about the exact

[signal osprey]

On average you get 1k royal urns per recipe

You aren't even unlucky yet lol

[clear shoal]

Ok thank you for at least a starting number to look for it.

[untold saffron]

And here I am getting mine at 44m death note kills

[crisp silo]

the depression really hits when that number gets to 2k

[clear shoal]

Sounds like you are talking from experience there lol.

[rapid shale]

I have 11 :p and have the recipe

[leaden karma]

how to raise my DK dmg? my other characters dmg is already 300m but my DK can't even reach 200m

[untold saffron]

Just basing what stage of the game I think you're at from that picture the damage isn't bad. But as usual it'll be mainly alchemy and maybe some of the better W5 artifacts for higher damage

[leaden karma]

i actually want to finish rift 30 but my DK is too weak it takes 3 shockwaves to kill a mob

[untold saffron]

Emperor opal rings and a caustic scarf would help

[untold saffron]

Use speed potions on a DK in rift too to help

[leaden karma]

already using it

i'll try get more scarf i guess

[void pulsar]

anyone bored and wanna look at my account to help get my damage up lol? https://cojoe.idleonefficiency.com

not sure where to focus next

[unreal forum]

so my deathnote counts 4 eclipse skulls, but rift only counts 2. this ever happen to anyone else?

[crisp silo]

gotta reload the session, just relog

[manic moat]

Skilling for mman to be rank 1 on all w1,w2,w3 skills and getting your printer to help you with all the things

[manic moat]

Use ES to get all the cards you use to max and use your DK to get all the pop obels

[void pulsar]

gotchu gotchu, tyty

[formal minnow]

If you've still got time, I'm trying to figure out what to work towards besides alchemy while I farm statues on my dk

https://db63.idleonefficiency.com/

[manic moat]

wouldn't load for me

[spice frigate]

how do I get bubo to a point of like being good? to push w5

[void pulsar]

get their stats high enough that the poison tick insta kills, alchemy is a good first idea

[summer grail]

I’ve hit a wall with gaming. Do I pump all my bits into shovel or across the board? Most I’ve spent so far is 50q

[vagrant mountain]

what level can i atom?

[summer grail]

Highest nuggets is 1600 rn or so

[opaque sun]

when in doubt, just keep upgrading anything cheapest in gaming

[signal osprey]

Usually in the 190's

[vagrant mountain]

OTL

[opaque sun]

Removing lab nodes, and using other classes can bump up the threshold

[summer grail]

Okay yes I’ve been throwing upgrades into everything for now starting with shovel since I haven’t gotten bigger one for a while it seems

[opaque sun]

Nuggets not updating for 2-3 months is a common thing

[vagrant mountain]

feels like my build rate cant keep up with my buildings, is atoming carpenter going to make it go zoom?

[opaque sun]

For the first few levels yea

[signal osprey]

Not really tbh

[vagrant mountain]

[signal osprey]

Its good but not game changing

[opaque sun]

But not much when it hits cap quite early

[hasty harness]

Guys i already asked this on #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 , but i will ask the veterans here, what would be the biggest upgrades i could do to my account? https://rickmaior.idleonefficiency.com

[opaque sun]

Like a day or two worth of atom and its done

[signal osprey]

It does help with exp though too not just BR so definitely worth some clicks

[hasty harness]

i didnt went on the game already for a few hours. so ignore warnings on dashboard

[opaque sun]

Biggest upgrade? Nothing beats doot for a single upgrade

[vagrant mountain]

this is with obols

[hasty harness]

upgrades i can do rn with stuff i already have

[opaque sun]

yes. Thats doot

[hasty harness]

i dont have green gems

[fallen flax]

Getting about 30b green bits a day. Should I aim for snail or keep poking the bits fertilizer which is costing 41b?

[opaque sun]

Just pull free doot

[hasty harness]

already used free weekly pet

so nothing i can do rn about that

[vagrant mountain]

stamps alchemy cooking are the biggest things you can do without spending money

and its always going to be the biggest things you can do

[hasty harness]

i was told cooking was only after i got some chow stacks

[opaque sun]

Jokes aside, alchemy looks very very underpowered for a w5

[vagrant mountain]

everything is very under for w5

[hasty harness]

i got to w5, but didnt start pushing it yet

[opaque sun]

Yeah, dont push w5 combat zones

[formal minnow]

Top bird, good sir, might you also review mine so I can figure out what else to do besides alchemy while I statue farm

[opaque sun]

you have loooots of homework to do that accumualted from w1-w4

[upbeat falcon]

first thing I noticed, which is actually a crime, is the fact you haven't completed boss keys quest on all your characters

only 1 has done w3 boss quest 😭

[hasty harness]

shhh

[signal osprey]

You just said it though. Alchemy and statue farm.

Thats endgame idleon

[hasty harness]

naa, my main and only account

why?

[vagrant mountain]

if i was in w4/w5 right now, I'd be :

1. Working on alchemy to unlock all bubbles and get better prints
2. Unlocking all stamps / upgrading them to 5k total stamp level
3. Unlocking every meal in cooking / bb 1m kills for chows
4. Purple skulls w1 - w3
5. Lab (to lvl75)/Divinity
6. Unlock as many Rift levels as you can

[upbeat falcon]

You need boss quests because w1-w3 is impossible to get the keys in the amounts you need for nightmare boss runs/ card farming

[hasty harness]

i cant do rift, i tried...

[signal osprey]

New accounts can reach W5 in like 2 weeks now lol

[formal minnow]

Yeah but I know there's gotta be something else, I feel it in my bones that I am forgetting about mechanic of the game that would help

[vagrant mountain]

youre never gonna do rift with that attitude

[opaque sun]

Your IE link isnt loading as someone said, so cant see

[hasty harness]

i tried with all chars

[upbeat falcon]

Rift took me a while to be able to do the very first one, after that I got to 26 within 2 days

[signal osprey]

Stamps and cooking

[vagrant mountain]

if the only thing you got from my post was that you can't do rift then i cant help you

[formal minnow]

I reuploaded and recopyied on ie, so maybe this time it will work

https://db63.idleonefficiency.com/

[hasty harness]

hats the thing i know i tried but i cant

[opaque sun]

Most buffs comes from skills. Combat offers almost no buffs besides talent pts from levels

[hasty harness]

because alchemy is alchemy...

[opaque sun]

Skills to get stronger, combat to put that new strength into action

[hasty harness]

also how do i do cooking with BB without any zow (or chow or wtv the cooking is) ?

[opaque sun]

W5 rush is mostly combat only so that is why you are very underpowered

[upbeat falcon]

You're going to want to level each of your characters in worship and trapping

[opaque sun]

Chow isnt that influential for cooking

[upbeat falcon]

You ideally want all of them to be equipped with the best tools

[hasty harness]

i still have maestro, he is still catching up on top on catching now

[upbeat falcon]

It's pretty good. My BB gets 700% boost

[vagrant mountain]

[opaque sun]

Super chow is infuential, but still the initial stages of cooking doesnt need super chow

[hasty harness]

i was leveling to 150, but was told to go back to top 1 on each skill before that

[opaque sun]

Just starting cooking is infinite gains compared from 0% than waiting for chow

[upbeat falcon]

Yeah but just starting cooking doesn't get you that far until you get the effeciency boosts. Cooking at 15 ladles a day sucks compared to my progress a month later getting 500 ladles

[hasty harness]

and how i cook? they feel like they take ages to cook a single recepie..

[formal minnow]

Workship I can easily do, as for trapping should I just remove all their traps and just go for the x75 xp ones then?

[vagrant mountain]

do you know how any of the skills work

[hasty harness]

you leave BB on kitchen and he produces laddles, then use laddles to speed up cooking

[upbeat falcon]

Work on completing lord of the hunt quests first and then set everyone to 20 hours with the green xp trap on the blobfish

Actually I think it's a w4 quest that gets you to the final blobfish

You will gain ridiculous xp

except the final quest

[formal minnow]

It is in w4, I've got all but the trophy for the hunt of the hunt, and I actually just set the traps to get the last 25 shiny I needed for that earlier😅

[hasty harness]

So tell me, is it a bad idea that my BB is working for 100K in the mobs of world 1?

[upbeat falcon]

no not really

[hasty harness]

while also splicing drops for pets

[upbeat falcon]

It shouldn't take too long to do it though

[hasty harness]

doing a mob a day

[upbeat falcon]

It would take me 6 hours to chow in w1 when I got around to it

[hasty harness]

cause thats how often i check the game

[upbeat falcon]

For 100k kills that's not great. I had him mobbing in w5 before going for chows

[hasty harness]

hmmm

[void pulsar]

whatre some good sources for vman damage up?

[old portal]

Alchemy stamp meals

[opaque sun]

making ladles to cook is good, but you dont have to make ladles to cook btw

[upbeat falcon]

skillage damage w/ skill level, my lowest is alchemy level which I think would be common for most people

[opaque sun]

It still works on its own like alchemy

[old portal]

Feels like trapping is low on most people not alchemy

[upbeat falcon]

I'm not too far into cooking, but I still get weeks worth of ladles a day. Making my gains non-existant compared to BB cooking

[hasty harness]

but its soo slow...

[opaque sun]

like past mid way of cook, ladle progress is a huge chunk

But its like alchemy with the first few stages that can be done without cranium cooking

[vagrant mountain]

alchemy is basically the backbone of this game

[upbeat falcon]

real facts, I haven't cranium cooked yet my alchemy be chuggin along

[opaque sun]

If it feels slow, then sure assign bb to cook ladles

[hidden steppe]

You can't keep thinking of the duration in w1-w3 values anymore when you reach w4 and w5

Patience is key

That's why it's an idle game

[vagrant mountain]

also decision making about what you do with your time is the main difference between progression speed

[opaque sun]

After a major upgrade (like vman marrow talent) it rockets progress, then it settles again

[hasty harness]

yeah, but i am at w5, and i feel like i cooked like 1 lv worth of chicken upgrade

[opaque sun]

you are not w5 technically in terms of overall progress

[hasty harness]

spices are produced much quicker

[hasty harness]

i am at w5

[opaque sun]

you just kind of have early access to its contents

[hasty harness]

🙂

[upbeat falcon]

Chow or mob with your BB when cooking slows down. It will slow down at points giving you time for other progression

[vagrant mountain]

being in w5 only means that you unlocked sailing, gaming, and divinity

[upbeat falcon]

BB is also fisher #1 and he needs a high effeciency for fish prints

[opaque sun]

yes, the town in unlocked, but your overll strength is not on par with w5

[hasty harness]

atm everyone stuck at divinity

except bb and maestro

[vagrant mountain]

ok

[hasty harness]

waiting for the god that allows divinity progress while on lab

[upbeat falcon]

Maybe push everyone to Tranquil, but I left mine all with the first god for afk gains while I progressed my characters through finishing w4 and w5 mobs.

[opaque sun]

Your account wise is like pre-w3 tier

[hasty harness]

😦

i played mostly afk

[vagrant mountain]

it's basically like every other account that forced their way to w5 while ignoring every other part of the game 🙂

[hasty harness]

pets did helped a lot

and food

[vagrant mountain]

gj

[opaque sun]

Although its good that lava made it so new guys can touch the latest w5 skills relatively easy, it has a downside making new players think idleon is combat oriented game, but actually its more of skills and upgrades

[vagrant mountain]

it's an alchemy oriented game and combat is just a method of leveling up bubbles

[hasty harness]

i see you are an OG

also candies from events helped a lot

i was told many times "try to unlock next world asap so you can get its bonus as soon as possible"

and so i did

now i think its time to slow down

and go back to previous worlds and clean all backlogs

[upbeat falcon]

You should be checking in on each town skill every day

[hasty harness]

yeah, i do that every day

maybe not in the most efficient way

but i do check them

[zinc torrent]

And always level your alchemy 😉

[hasty harness]

naa

i will use the points to lv up chaldrons

😄

[zinc torrent]

Yeah that works too

[toxic saddle]

He meant bubbles

[hasty harness]

i do that when i am too lazy to check what needs upgrade tbh

[hasty harness]

yeah ik

i heard that is a waste of liquid

but imo its better than nothing

[upbeat falcon]

I always have excess of the 2nd liquid

I haven't done active bubo

does someone want to look at my alchemy and give me suggestions?

I will start soon I have my bubo pushing through the last 3 maps of w5 before I start

[wise root]

hello giga lads. is there any point to getting onyx statue without the right chip?

[hasty harness]

btw this are my pets

[upbeat falcon]

Which one, the chocolate chip?

[wise root]

thats the one

cause i have the stamp at level 140 and my crystal chance is still so low

[upbeat falcon]

Do you have the two cards for crystal spawns?

[wise root]

both at diamon or plat

not rubied

1/71 chance for crystal mobs

[azure spindle]

some of the statues are in main drops

[upbeat falcon]

Idk, when I active farm without the chip (don't own) I still get thousands of crystal kills a day\

[azure spindle]

the w3 ones, the bullseye statue from w1 and oceanman which you get from w2 catching can all be farmed without chocolate chip

[wise root]

hmm i might still be getting thousands of kills a day but im doing power statues on bored beans atm and its been about 6 days

and im at 12k

[old portal]

Anyone here have 200m gold ore prints? What mining eff did you guys have to get that base print?

[wise root]

i only have 10x drop rate

[hasty harness]

also whats the best way to spend this points? caus ei i had got more than 20 of the 10% and still dont have the god

[old portal]

If ur at 12k in 6days that way too slow to do onyx

[upbeat falcon]

I've seen people successfully statue farm with only 5x

[unreal fox]

up x2 sample

[wise root]

thats what im thinking but like idk what im missing

outside of choclate chip

[azure spindle]

mainly just choco and dk is for like 90% of the statues

the other ones I mentioned earlier can be farmed without choco and can take a bit

[old portal]

Its mainly choco chip so statue farming should be hold off for you

[wise root]

using dk and just missing choco i thought like a level 14 shrine for crystal spawns and plat cards would be enough for it

[old portal]

Rather go cranium cooking or ES farming

[wise root]

ah fair enough like its just the power statues that are so slow i got nearly 30k of the other ones at bored beans

[upbeat falcon]

Mr. Nut Choco chip comes back in december

[azure spindle]

the main thing with choco is it'll essentially 4x your statue rate from crystals

[wise root]

yeah i was thinking of holding off but i really wanted a couple aha and tbh i thought it was 10k

[upbeat falcon]

the wait for w4 gems and chips is excruciating

[wise root]

honestly so painful

[old portal]

Not really worth when you can use bubo es and sb

[azure spindle]

I mean in the end it's all about time you want to invest, I'm slow grinding w3 statues even though it takes like 7-10 days to finish one with my stats, onyx statues are pretty cracked but I probably wouldn't go beyond getting the 20k power statues to unlock it if you do continue

at least until you get choco

[upbeat falcon]

I've heard this refuted by a lot of people. Bubo is not good for statue farming

[azure spindle]

dk way better for statues pretty sure

[wise root]

yeah thats fair as i said i have like nearly 30k of speed feeast chopoping beholder and health its just power that wont drop haha

[upbeat falcon]

W1 skilling statues are easy af to get

[azure spindle]

yeah those are the two slower ones on w1, that and bullseye statue but that is for a different reason

[dreamy rapids]

They all drop from Crystals don't they?

[azure spindle]

bullseye doesn't

[dreamy rapids]

True

[azure spindle]

and w3 statues don't as well as oceanman

[wise root]

yeah that makes sense. but yeah idk might as well just finish now

[dreamy rapids]

Oceanman is fucking painful

[azure spindle]

I just tossed like 8 people onto oceanman at once and still took like a week

[dreamy rapids]

I put my Maestro and used 72 hour candy

Got like 7700 from that

[azure spindle]

yeah that's fair, with your current rate it's about another 4 days ish which is doable at least, and the w1 statues are pretty good overall and you'll have most by the time you have the 20k power

[azure spindle]

yeah I did not have the afk rates and drop rate for that

[wise root]

thats my thoughts i wanna see just how good they are so yeah plus worth it in my mind im not gonna reach the pinnacle of the game so i just play how i want

[azure spindle]

don't forget to work on snakeskin vial as well from w1, gives you chance to double statues when deposited

[wise root]

im maxing that on my es as we speak

[formal minnow]

I got it from the shop gacha like a week ago. What took me like 3 nights of leaving idleon running on my phone, I did in like 3 hours with choc

[wise root]

god damn yeah i wish i had choco

[hasty harness]

also, did i miss any important upgrade on gem shop?

i got 800 gems rn

[gray thicket]

What does this mean?

[dreamy rapids]

You can dig

[hasty harness]

it is ready to be used

[formal minnow]

It means you sir do not read Patch notes

[azure spindle]

the sampling slots in w3 are quite good to have but not essential, other things would be both coloured cauldrons and liquid cauldrons upgrades but again not immediately essential

[gray thicket]

Never

[gray thicket]

Nice

[opaque sun]

No more guessing if you have a full shovel charge

Else you lost shovel charges if you clicked at the 59 min mark

[void pulsar]

anyone have an info breakdown on vman damage? trying to amp it up for nightmare w5

[hasty harness]

are the wings or the cap good?

[azure spindle]

no idea about cap, think it's mainly for slab, wings is a gamba, there's about 3/13 bad ones, and a mix of mid and good ones in the other 10

[hasty harness]

oof

i am checking if i missed anything in the shop

or if i just buy more space

it is never too much

[calm cliff]

next pet set is gonna have pet so that you never get a lower nug then u have (god i need new nug)

[azure spindle]

I feel that

[hasty harness]

imagine if lava allows us to choose wich set we gamble?

like how gachas have diferent banners

[azure spindle]

but they each are gonna have separate guaranteed counters, so still 200 pulls on each side

[hasty harness]

thats how gacha games work, so i wouldnt be surprised

[opaque sun]

wings are a hit or miss

[calm cliff]

true

i got the kattle wings

[opaque sun]

if the cat cuts the power cables and game crashes when you make the pull, the out come may tilt in certain way

[vagrant mountain]

i got 7% afk rose

[upbeat falcon]

Anyone have a pet ram and wants a pet rift slug? I can hook you up

Just let me know and we will trade TBD

[heavy moth]

was wondering why i lost 10T dmg XD was on skilling preset omg those last 6 hours

[paper nova]

When ES uses a basic attack can Chaotic Force trigger if they are using the lightning/ice/blue beam?

or only on normal autos?

[sick sentinel]

Idk but its best not to use ice or energy bolt just in case it locks you out

Also most of the time they are single target so not doing much

Lightning barrage good tho

[old portal]

not for statue farming but for flags orbs mob drops etc

[steep cipher]

ayyyyy i finally got it

[untold lintel]

knucklers

that sounds offensive

[steep cipher]

500 hampters?? thats gonna take me a whole week to farm atleast

[true obsidian]

i got 4/6 slots, does this count as profit?

[opaque sun]

pretty much fits the 68% expectancy, which i think is a slight loss

[vagrant mountain]

anybody know what this looks like at max?

[grim rock]

wouldn't it be 20%, if at lvl 8 it's 8%?

[wind umbra]

wiki says 30%

[sick sentinel]

must include the last superbit which is out of reach rn

[opaque sun]

I assume thats with the theoretical super bits upgrade to raise max level or something

[vagrant mountain]

i meant the cooking speed bonus

[opaque sun]

20% ^ number of meals we have

Or more like 1.2x

[vagrant mountain]

XD damn that was obvious i guess

1.3x with lvl 30 superbit?

or superbit is not possible right now

[opaque sun]

And sorry dont feel like counting how many types of meals we got

[vagrant mountain]

57

[opaque sun]

super bit not really feasible now

Unless you are jesus who been plaing since his birth

Its basically a slight weaker diamond chef

[vagrant mountain]

yeah i thought it would scale faster

was thinking about switching some prints to push it but prob just gonna take it slow

soon

[barren otter]

[vagrant mountain]

[barren otter]

wonder what a 2x full duration one looks like

[vagrant mountain]

2x your regular duration lol

[opaque sun]

800k ish

[barren otter]

hmm true yea dumb question

so like 840ish for me then

[vagrant mountain]

if only you could do 3

[opaque sun]

Tent 1000 and maybe. Like infinite cranium

[vagrant mountain]

little bro hopes that day never comes

[opaque sun]

Game crashes when trying to display the numbers of a week long farming

[vagrant mountain]

undefined

[ocean fox]

Is the all skill efficiency stamp base efficiency or flat efficiency

[eternal dove]

im doing this thing called gaming right, right?

[daring ravine]

You are a gamer

[untold saffron]

Gonna be chem chaining for days once you're done

[eternal dove]

it is done...... it only got to this point bc i procrastinated doing my chem chains

and once i was 17/20 chems i was like well why not?

but welcome to my chem lab where i am the one who knocks

[dreamy rapids]

Is it just me or tier 6 plant are impossible to get?

[eternal dove]

nope

just takes a lotttttttttttttt of time and a lottttttttt of rng

[untold saffron]

250x rarer than T5 so even with 2 minute cycles it usually still takes days

I used 27 fertilisers to get my last 2 T6

[dreamy rapids]

And there is still tier 7 and 8

[eternal dove]

i dont even wanna think of t7 and t8

[untold saffron]

You'd lose more bits going for even one T7 than you'd ever make back in a lifetime

[eternal dove]

but wheres the "fun" in that? wheres the prestige in saying hey i did it gotdammit

[sinful aurora]

If it costs you 5000$ in fertilizers, the prestige is lost.

[untold saffron]

[eternal dove]

then f2p the t7 then the prestige is back 🥲

[untold saffron]

Thoughts on W6 skills btw? Calling farming will definitely be one

[dreamy rapids]

Flying

[eternal dove]

i feel thats a safe bet.

[dreamy rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-piggies-gif-23444298

[untold saffron]

Idle skilling has the whole tilling, brewing, flower growing shite so we're missing that loop

[dreamy rapids]

Probably Crusades if we get the Royal Guard

[elfin cape]

Pls no, I hate Botany in that game

[eternal dove]

royal guard wouldnt be till w7 or w8 as per the roadmap so prob not crusades w6

[lapis mesa]

at least we already have brewing, so wont have to worry about softlocking if you level up a potion to early

[dreamy rapids]

Gaming is also pretty much Botany

[untold saffron]

I wouldn't say gaming, alchemy or cooking = botany replacement

[elfin cape]

Not really, you don't have to plant every single plant, for like, 60 plants till you get to the last

[proud olive]

What is the rift 51 bonus?

Cant find anything on wikis

[elfin cape]

Gotta ask a time traveler, sorry

[dreamy rapids]

There isn't any

[proud olive]

Still none?

[untold saffron]

The majority can't even get to 51 honestly

Overall player base wise

[proud olive]

Ive Just unlock the ruby card. And r51 shows up. Thot its already available.

[eternal dove]

maybe after w6 powercreep itll be possible for majorityish

[elfin cape]

True, W6 powercreep is insane

(I'm a time traveler, rift 51 bonus is a new carpal tunnel, cause of PO boxes)

[opaque sun]

cant forget the notorious 2 sec jumping content, spelunking

[elfin cape]

Fuck, I forgot about spelunking

That was not fun

[dreamy rapids]

Especially when it started to ask gems for upgrades

And than we got Afterlife

[true obsidian]

[opaque sun]

Every little nugget update helps

[true obsidian]

lv 2 from atom upgrade is snail lv10 right?

so now i won't go lower than 10?

hmm...snail only max at 25, but that upgrade have lv 20? what happen after that?

[quartz fiber]

Hi! Is nothing time per char or account wide?

Because i just afk at a town with 1 char 24h and with another at the island for 24h and the guys says 24h

[opaque sun]

if on mobile, the island one probably counted as fish afk

Anyways it should be account wide

[opaque sun]

Nothing. Cant click once lv25, and atom upgrade just continues just for the sake of spending particles

[cold jackal]

WEW

[true obsidian]

Uhm, for anyone have unlocked “nothing afk”, what it does? Or only get buff when afk enough time?

[eternal dove]

hurray for decimal values

[cold jackal]

good gaming day, double nugget amount

[opaque sun]

When your total number of hours spent on “nothing afk” reaches certain amount, you get permanent buffs. See wiki’s island expedition for more details on the buffs

[true obsidian]

But does it do anything else? Or just those buff?

[opaque sun]

Just those buffs and also a small chance to get an Afk trophy for every hr spent on nothing afk

See wiki for more details
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Island_Expeditions

Due to the high requirements of like 20k hrs and so, its mostly means to convert excess candies for buffs. Its not really realistic to achieve via irl afk hours

[granite grove]

a full year of afk with 1 char is only 8.766% chance to get a trophy on average btw, also accounted for lunar days if needing that bit of accuracy

[devout moth]

I seem to have lost accuracy into the void? before I went to work, stiltmoles were giving me more exp then chessenubs and my accuracy was mid 90s or higher. I come back, cycle through my afk gains on my other characters, put points into alchemy, go to town to check sailing gains, come back and notice the yellow danger sign in the corner and noticed I was down to an 84% hit chance. might have lost a bit of def too, because when I swap my star sign to ned kelly the danger sign goes away, but I'm still getting highly reduced exp on the map as opposed to cheesenubs

[opaque sun]

probably survivability issue (HP and DEF) that making you count as you died while afk farming so you only get portion of the gains

[devout moth]

ya, but idk why it was fine this morning, but isn't now. i didn't change my cards or set bonus or anything. the only difference was adding points into alchemy which would only make me stronger

[opaque sun]

If afk, use more expensive healing foods (for afk it counts even if it heals more than your max hp), use Hp potions, get more def or just get stronger generally

Dont expect to rush through w5 like you did for w4

[lavish grotto]

What this from the gear recommendations page

[opaque sun]

making it look cool for captain obvious advices

[lavish grotto]

That’s not a warrior weapon

Actually it could be

[vagrant mountain]

yes

[opaque sun]

that is why its not a wide spread guide

[vagrant mountain]

@opaque sun did you buy bribe?

in trash island

i went funny route and didnt buy bribe, and got DR stamp

i'm wondering what progress is like if i would have went bribe

[opaque sun]

Yes i got the bribe. Nothing really interesting

Its basically just 1 or 2 more trash if you can be bothered to do daily events

[vagrant mountain]

did you go 6 upgrades > bribe ?

[opaque sun]

Something like that, with also fish stamp

Dr stamp first isnt bad as bribe isnt like super super amazing

[vagrant mountain]

yeah I think I have pretty similar trash gains as you without going bribe

i just didnt do it because i know im not gonna do random events every day

[opaque sun]

At best bribe is just an expensive 1-2 trash gain upgrade

[vagrant mountain]

it was about the same cost as 7 and 8 for trash upgrade

[opaque sun]

Investing in trash upgrade probably better as its like it automatically does a random event in a way

[vagrant mountain]

yeah, im thinking im going to get trash upgrade 10 and get stat wallstreet stamp

then get bribe

and everything else

or maybe just straight to stat wallstreet

240 all stat

[hearty shore]

Should I upgrade my dual classes to the final advancement or leave them unadvanced?

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/ki2FJAy.png

finally found the 100%

only 10B div points cheap lul

[tacit tulip]

Typically people grab the elite classes anyway. We think Lava will do some elite class swap tokens when the w6 classes come out, so you can switch to them

[hearty shore]

Like with gems or free?

[sinful aurora]

For sure with gems

Mayyyybe the first one could be free, but not more.

[steady beacon]

Can someone help me figure out why my damage drops on iOS after my first sync?

First pic is damage on logging on and going to my es. Second picture is after going back to cloud save/character select, then it stays low from then on until my next logout/login.

Also noticed my last 3 P.O. Boxes sometimes disappear.

On iOS, which is probably 99% the reason why things are weird.

[iron mesa]

Superbits prayer thing

[steady beacon]

Can you elaborate? Not sure what that means. 🙂

[iron mesa]

It works bad sometimes

[iron mesa]

Do you have that thing?

[steady beacon]

So... the game doesn't realize I have prayers equipped on first login?

And gives me bonus damage?

Or it starts applying "no prayers" after the second character switch, even though I do have prayers?

[steady beacon]

I don't.

I have prayers on all my characters.

[iron mesa]

I mean, did you buy it?

[steady beacon]

Oh! Yes, I did

[hallow wing]

Is DK or ES better for grinding POP obols?

[steady beacon]

It's a known bug?

[iron mesa]

Def known, but happens to me

[steady beacon]

Got it. Any workarounds, beyond "don't go to player menu after first login"?

[iron mesa]

Taking off prayer and then equipping it again seems to work, or try goin to Gem Shop

[sinful aurora]

Mob drop > ES

[hallow wing]

OK cool ty

[bright current]

Anything on front page of a mobs drop table ES is king

Anything else DK

[tacit tulip]

Some items are in rare bags for monsters but not crystals, these are easier on ES too

[dreamy rapids]

Yes

Such as accuracy statues

[tacit tulip]

Wurms front page drops are easier on DK too, due to the high hp (bad for portal scaling) and the map being perfect for DK orb

[steady beacon]

Odd, none of those seem to work for me, I'm still on the lower damage setting.

[glacial venture]

did you change vman skill set?

[silent pendant]

So my kp/h on crawlers just lost almost 6k without doing anything. Any reasons why this happens?

[untold saffron]

You run out of speed potions or something?

[silent pendant]

@untold saffron Wasn't using pots.

I just logged in, looked at my k/ph and saw it dropped from 19k to 14k.

[tacit tulip]

What class? A buff could have run out which reduced your kph

[zinc torrent]

turk var mı

[tacit tulip]

BB is notorious for it as inflamed can increase kph but only lasts like 4 seconds

[silent pendant]

I'm using ES @tacit tulip

[tacit tulip]

Check the ES multikill skill is active then

Seems a likely offender

[opaque sun]

mana is life has a rather short duration so its common to run out

[worthy helm]

Is there a shiny pet max lv?

[silent pendant]

It is on that is the strange thing, i did litterally nothing to change anything with the game.

Just logged on after afking for the night and lost kp/h..

[opaque sun]

its high enough that you wont ever reach it in your life time

[tacit tulip]

Something will have definitely changed, the kph formula is pretty set in stone:

Respawn speed
Afk%
Multikill tiers (damage)
Multikill%
Movement/atk speed

One of these will have changed in some fashion

[worthy helm]

Geez

Whats a good stopping point then?

[silent pendant]

All that changed was my yellow MK bubble getting +3 from NBLB basically.

[opaque sun]

Around 5-6 the cost gets ludicrous unless its a really really good stat

[worthy helm]

Alr thx

[opaque sun]

Even for your favorite stat, 9-10 is like the absolute maximum you should aim for

[worthy helm]

Gotcha

[steady token]

👀 where is the best place for this quest?

[tacit tulip]

Depends on the class

DK should go to clammies

The rest would probably go floms

[steady token]

ty

[tacit tulip]

SB might do well on chocolate due to it being long and flat, which he likes

[uneven violet]

It’s cannon that sb likes em long and flat

[steady beacon]

Finally made it to kattlekruk on my BB, and beat him on normal. ES and SB are two maps behind, rest are only halfway through w5.

Would now be the right time to focus more on death note/eclipse skulls? Or should I keep pushing the w5 maps? I'm on rift 34, so also looking to push my damage a bit more, but otherwise want to focus more on alchemy and stamps. Any suggestions?

[opaque sun]

You can pretty much do all of that at the same time/in parallel to be honest

[steady beacon]

Well, I could move most of my fighters to w1 and work on eclipse. But that's obv at the expense of w5

I could also use bb to farm for kk keys, or put him in the kitchen and finally start levelling cooking

Guess I'll just have to play around with things and see where the next progress milestone is!

Really want to beat rift 34 though!

Managed it on my es, but don't think any of the others are close enough.

[raw tundra]

almost all my characters are level 10 divinity. when do i start making something else with them again?

[daring ravine]

God rank 3

Or goharut if you're boring

[teal lynx]

Don't go to God Rank 3. You will hate yourself
Depends on how far you wanna push it. I would say Goharut (Goat God). Pins have a good guide!

[opaque sun]

too late, got to god rank 4 already

[teal lynx]

I hope without any Upgrades that increase Divinity Gains, like our Dear Friend DeckhandBechfalo recommended

[serene timber]

Hey, any tips for sailing ? I've been basically stuck at the same artifacts for months. Havent even gotten all the basic ones even though it's been ages

With everyone on golden hamsters and sailing time bubble

[spice frigate]

is this normal to get these like candy lol i hit w5 last night and i keep getting them lol

[teal lynx]

Are you already at minimum Sail Time? Aka 120 min - whatever SB Family and Shiny Pets give you?
You might need to send all your Boats to previous Islands to upgrade them. Also Omni really helps while checking in every ~2 Hours
If you got all this, then it is just RNG

[spice frigate]

i ain't doing nothing lol sent something off and i claim like a chest or two

[teal lynx]

The early ones you get really easy. The later ones have a chance of 0.01% per Chest

That first message was not for you 👀

[spice frigate]

oh didn't even see anyone say anything previous to it mb

[dreamy rapids]

Oh poor poor kid

[spice frigate]

calling me kid is kinda rude but seeing how they're less than 4% already seems pretty lucky

[raven vale]

does this require me crafting on each character?

[teal lynx]

I don't think so

But u better be crafting 10 of them

[raven vale]

Crafted on SB for extra slot, not applying to quest on ES

[teal lynx]

Did u "equip" it

[raven vale]

yeah i abandoned quest, removed it, reloaded game, accepted quest, equipped scarf

[teal lynx]

Reload Map with the Scarf equipped. I am not at that point yet so I can't 100% tell you

[raven vale]

Negative =\

[teal lynx]

Try these methods in W5, maybe Mole Map

[raven vale]

yup did it all at moles/wurms

i'll give it another hoon

trickz is always right

spamming works lol

[teal lynx]

In trickz we trust

[raven vale]

Trickzflame2

[teal lynx]

Now I need 100% Snakeskin Vial

I should finish OJ Vial while doing Plunder Mobs on SB right?

[opaque sun]

Not that i tried nor can i test it anymore, i assume getting kattle cape via fomo shop doesnt count for trophy quest

[raven vale]

i would attempt to test for you but i'm not sitting on gems at the moment

because i would totally pray to RNGesus for Vman

[uneven violet]

Does es talent 11 affect other characters

[teal lynx]

Talent 11 is double God link?
It doesn't affect others

[acoustic marten]

is there anything else hidden? do i keep clicking?

[teal lynx]

U can't click

[acoustic marten]

True^^

[teal lynx]

Just accumulate them for next plant in World 8

[opaque sun]

From there it just becomes a meter of how long it has been since you unlocked chem

[uneven violet]

Passive bonus

Divinity gains*

[acoustic marten]

i will be looking at that when trying to get lvl 6 chem 😄

also what was the max cap for mats in the storage again? 1050 million? how do i go about if i wanna store more of a material?

[teal lynx]

Oh not sure then. Didn't even know it had a passive

[opaque sun]

It was made to 1050m because it was an issue on mobile of if it went past 2.1b, it would overflow

[teal lynx]

You need to do stacks like this. Not a real point in doing it

[acoustic marten]

im saving up for the 1000 mil upgrades and wanna make sure i dont overstack when on a lucky printer go brr streak

[elfin cape]

Also, do stacks with more than 1 copper, otherwise refinery will insta delete that stack

[opaque sun]

Whatever go past 1050m becomes particles

[acoustic marten]

and i fill up the second stack from the top, and make the first one a smaller one to stack onto, right?

[opaque sun]

And you want to have particles

[teal lynx]

It was just to show the concept

[opaque sun]

Game only touches with the top left most stack in the storage if you have multiple of same item

[acoustic marten]

thanks

[opaque sun]

So you will have to manually switch around in order to start filling the 2nd copper stack

[uneven violet]

Ty I’ll still do it

But i don’t think it’s for all chats

Characters

[half thistle]

Is it normal to have Gaming progress slow waaay down after getting the Bog Log? I feel like I'm missing something but I can't find anything on the wiki

[chrome tiger]

I think there's a slow point between that and snail

Getting chemical unlocked is important to getting to snail

And cooking and sailing and achievements

[half thistle]

Ohhhh, I'm missing those maybe

I guess the wiki just doesn't have the list of stuff that affects gaming like other skills do

[chrome tiger]

Cooking has at least two meals

Sailing has an artifact

[half thistle]

oh wow yeah, that artifact would make a huge difference

[umbral tapir]

Is bossin the boss truly 100 kills? Like, I need 6000 keys?

[random lake]

yes

so 60k keys altogether

[umbral tapir]

Ha, not a chance

[chrome tiger]

You'll do it eventually

[little pagoda]

I managed to get to snail with the 2 sailing artifacts at ancient, don't even need eldritch

[opaque sun]

Its quite more doable than you might think

[random lake]

youll do it eventaully yeah, espeically once you start eclipsing

youll get like enough keys for 1 or 2 character]

[opaque sun]

The trophy is meh, but that sweet possible 5000 kebab coupons

[little pagoda]

And the meals at 20 ish, gaming levels help with bit gain too with the DK talent

[random lake]

wahst the cap on kebabs?

[opaque sun]

gold food doesnt really have a cap, but with no gold food modifiers, roughly around 20%

[worn frost]

Don't mind if i do

[opaque sun]

He will probably keep his job until maybe mid 2024

[quasi berry]

Does cactus give growth cycles only when harvested?

[plucky verge]

should I farm cooking clogs for troll boots on my divine knight or elemental sorcerer

[opaque sun]

yeah cactus are just one time growth bomb when harvested

Its not like a “growth aura”

[spice frigate]

what level does tab 2 in the alchy shop unlock..? i'm like locked behind getting it at this point

[worldly hollow]

should i send it on the boss stones or no?

[dreamy rapids]

No

IMO

[worldly hollow]

i think i have enough mats to make a second..... lol

scratch that. need more hampters

ill wait lmao

[zinc torrent]

What yall doing in case of divinity new gods?
Gamble or go for the 100%?

[cursive forge]

what should I active on

or should it be ES

altho all of them are in div

[steel linden]

How do I beat nightmare kattlecruk on berserker?? Just need a massive high damage or is there a trick to it? I have around 70B damage and just get overwhelmed by the amount of moles

[worldly hollow]

do you have choco chip? maxed crystal cards?

[steel linden]

I oneshot the moles easily but there are too many of them

[cursive forge]

nope

[sacred verge]

you should get the crystal cards to 4*

[dreamy rapids]

Berserker has some great CC tools

Just use the blast when there are too many of them

[teal lynx]

I hope Vman is not the only one pushing W5. Also you should probably not push if you are not multikilling in W5
You could focus on Crystal Cards (Poop, Genie) or gather Materials for Alchemy Bubbles.

[steel linden]

Blast cool down is too high, I get overwhelmed by molens before it's of cd again

[dreamy rapids]

There is also the bear swip and those blood blades

[sacred verge]

its not worth it to do anythig crystal related when you have 1 in 411 crystal chance

[cursive forge]

nope my BB is pushing, altho its not multikilling, its hitting killcap with no damage/accuracy card needed so its basically getting levels

[steel linden]

Ya but running around and using that means I don't have time to hit kattlcruk

[sacred verge]

focus on the cards and get the star talent

[worldly hollow]

learn to play the game with auto off. if youre playing on pc you can use your numpad for your skills. just have to have the skills pulled up

[cursive forge]

quick question do I want to reroll this to 6%

k

[teal lynx]

Is there a reason why you want to push W5?
There currently is no reason to push with Main Stats below 1k. You won't get access to a new World, You won't be able to farm Keys or make any real progress on the Boss
You will be better off completely ignoring anything W5 related (except Skills, which you can check every 2-24 hours depending on how active you are) and focus on earlier Skills. Alchemy, Stamps, Construction, Breeding, Cooking. Even Mining for better gear
Obols (Droprate), Unlocking some Star Signs if you haven't already, Cards and getting Lab filled out with 6 People

[cursive forge]

I dont think its neccessarily pushing w5 its just mostly getting xp
https://lapez.idleonefficiency.com
Ill link my IE maybe Im missing something

and divinity sucks

[sacred verge]

xp and lvls dosent matter

lvl ur stamps, alch, vials / get all vials. 3d printer needs work. construction needs work, meals needs tons of work, get jewels for lab and all bonuses light up, you honestly need to work on everything

w5 is not where u need to be besides for skills

[teal lynx]

Your highest Lab Person is lvl 4

[sacred verge]

equipment and tools

[cursive forge]

cause I got to w5 without labbing

[sacred verge]

well you should start with it

[cursive forge]

my other classes got to ~120 then I unlocked w5 which moved them to div

but then divinity feels better than labbing cause I already linked important nodes and the goat will allow me to do div within labs

[sacred verge]

also if you are farming poop and genie card with DK and vman you should change to active ES and do it

[cursive forge]

but idk where to put them besides w5

[teal lynx]

All of that is fine, but just take your Vman and BB out of Pushing World 5

[sacred verge]

rather have them doing div then

work on cards and obols aswell

[cursive forge]

Im trying to work on all these but div really stalling my progress

[sacred verge]

pop and dice obols

[cursive forge]

Im trying to

you can look at my obol tab

[sacred verge]

well put BB on div then

he is a complete waste atm

[cursive forge]

I put my BB back to chow already

[sacred verge]

also your prints look terrible

why print mob mats on all chars more or less

[cerulean hemlock]

@tall horizon I did as you required, got the keys

[cursive forge]

its sustaining my refinery and producing spores for

[sacred verge]

its not worth it for that bubble

if it means you cant work on anythign else

vman sample should be enough

[cursive forge]

well what can I work on rn

[fast grail]

Sample proper skilling materials on your classes

[sacred verge]

i allrdy told you alot of stuff you can work on

[cursive forge]

thanks

[sacred verge]

but for you, honestly anything you like to lol, you need to work on every skill etc

not to sound rude

sorry its not ment that way

but you literally can work on everything w1-w4 for massive improvements

[cursive forge]

ye I totally agree

this account is just 3months old

[sacred verge]

yeye nothing wrong with that

[cursive forge]

and all that being said

everything is timegated

[cursive forge]

question

Im sampling this for bubbles?

oh right I totally forgot

[fast grail]

Correct, bubbles, stamps, any gear you need

[cursive forge]

I just sampled the spores on my Vman during its void run

no wonder you said Im wasting prints

[sacred verge]

only vman should have mob samples in my opinion

but yeah

[cursive forge]

but how to sustain refinery

[sacred verge]

shouyldnt be too hard, get some bigger samples and its easy

more efficiency

[sullen mantle]

yea just need to switch every so often

[fast grail]

BM is contender for mob mobs, but yeah, get to the point where only those 2 can sustain the entirety of refinery

[cursive forge]

so like BM + Vman?

[sacred verge]

BM is alright for mob mats as he sucks anyway, lol

[cursive forge]

and then others are all skilling mats

[sacred verge]

yea that works

[cursive forge]

alr thanks

[willow drum]

bm is a catcher of bugs

[cerulean hemlock]

Hey, it sucks to suck, but at least you know that you suck

[sullen mantle]

when are u going to look in the mirror tho?

[sacred verge]

how do we know that BM himself know he is trash?

[feral whale]

does the DK and ES drop up ability affect card drop on active?

[green eagle]

would this keychain be worth something to me? only thing i can think of is maybe when snapshotting HP for ore sample

[midnight pebble]

LETS GO 4/10 NOW

[dreamy rapids]

Woohoo

So DK is better at farming keys than ES?

[cerulean hemlock]

Idk

[cerulean hemlock]

Philosophy that should never be answered

[dreamy rapids]

You would expect for BM to be good considering he gains damage from loot collected

[sacred verge]

dmg is not nearly all tho

not even that important compared to stuff like aoe, respawn and orb

[fervent brook]

Just got MSA Big Bits and it made a bigger difference than I thought it would

[old coyote]

my public ie isnt updating, is there a fix or do i just need to wait

[cursive forge]

is it looking ok

[sacred verge]

yes this is much better

[cursive forge]

ok

[placid mural]

ummmm where TF is my lucky dice stamp from the trash vendor?

[dreamy rapids]

Did you pick it up?

[cerulean hemlock]

I can't fail this.. right?

[cursive forge]

maybe

[cerulean hemlock]

Lava rounding is scary

[green eagle]

i haven't failed shiny breeding in such a long time. all 1 in 1s succeed.. that doesn't mean that it won't though lol

first 5 digit i've rolled in a long time, and it's 3x less than my current 😦

[placid mural]

Didn't see it on the ground, also wtf is the point of auto loot of it won't "automatically loot"

[dreamy rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-4422663

[lament jasper]

it's really good right ?

[rugged fulcrum]

if i wanna go fighting afk what should be my 3 constellations?

and skill afk

[teal lynx]

It takes ~5-10 seconds to be dropped

[raw tundra]

ooooook so i gave some bits to one of the gods and it gave a multiplier i think. what does that do?

[gentle furnace]

What multiplier

[placid mural]

That is infuriating, what a dumb waste of 80 trash. .. . . . . . .

[sturdy pawn]

Exactly what it says on the tin

[gentle furnace]

U get more div points when meditating

[sturdy pawn]

More div gain

[raw tundra]

i am not linked to that one though

[sturdy pawn]

Don't need to be

[gentle furnace]

Blessing doesn't require you to be connected

Its active all the time

[raw tundra]

except the main one?

oh ok

link and blessing

thank

[midnight pebble]

minor is what you would need link for

[cerulean hemlock]

Upgraded every possible stamp. And I got.... +1 mil damage.

[sturdy pawn]

What's with the armor

[midnight pebble]

looks like its candy farm time

[cerulean hemlock]

What about it? I'm still a nooby W5 dude at (tremor)

Time to give them some love I guess

[sturdy pawn]

Migrating from lab to divinity

[stoic tiger]

It's like puberty

[cerulean hemlock]

They all have goat

[willow drum]

if only you played as much as you talk in disc

[cerulean hemlock]

🤣

Candy supply do be looking good imo

[sturdy pawn]

Poverty

[cerulean hemlock]

How many hours do you have then

[sturdy pawn]

Idk a fuck ton of 2 hours still

From events

[fading cape]

I used 40 orange and black candies today to just straight up end my statue farming torture. So I hit candy poverty today

[cerulean hemlock]

Me too

[fading cape]

This is all I have left.

[cerulean hemlock]

🤣

[fading cape]

Have to save for the literal second my BB gets level 425 and equips the divine scarf in his inventory. So I can super/chow and eclipse the whole world

[tacit pewter]

what is the next best class to farm 100k statues with after divine knight? trying to do monolith quest again to get 20k total kachow statues

[raw tundra]

good to imagine

[cerulean hemlock]

sigh at least we're getting there

[raw tundra]

that powerful thing needs 425 elvel huh

[sick sentinel]

if you have 2 dks, then the second one. otherwise bubo, or farm for the mob specific statues on ES

[fading cape]

Second highest equip level in game I believe. Highest is the divine trophy at 450

[tacit pewter]

yah i only got 1 dk so bubo it is! 😜

[raw tundra]

and how hard is it to get that trophy?

[fading cape]

It's technically the "latest game" content there is I think. That isn't pushing already existing skills. you have to get the rarest item on the current final boss after clearing millions of kills on the last three stages of latest world

[sick sentinel]

your whole roster needs to defeat nightmare kattlecruk so its pretty tough for most people

[fading cape]

yeah then that also.

[sick sentinel]

oh i confused the trophy with the scarf

my b

[tacit pewter]

nightmare kattle with vman 😭

[fading cape]

It's such a pain there's an actual guide in the pins just for how to do it.

[cerulean hemlock]

Ikr nkattle is the most annoying and unimaginative boss (no offense lava)