lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[tall horizon]

not if we have to level it because its +max not +1 level

would literally take years for just one lol

[vagrant mountain]

idk why im even leveling up my cauldrons at this point

[tacit tulip]

yeah but you'd never be free. you levle the sigil, max level is 3, you levle it again, max level is 4, level it again...

[signal osprey]

Taking years for a good bonus is better than taking years for nothing though

[lavish cloak]

do i only get 2 chances at w2 town boss? i've been waiting for it to let me try again for 3 days

[signal osprey]

Right now the end game sigils do nothing

[sick sentinel]

yeah either bad wording or bugged not to be daily

[tacit tulip]

you'd need 4 people permanently on sigil speed, 4 permanently on max level, and 2 on whatever sigil you want to level

it'd be horrible

[sick sentinel]

could be a forgotten line

[signal osprey]

Thats better than finishing sigils and then having nothing to do at all though

[tall horizon]

Should be fixed with the small update yesterday

[cerulean hemlock]

Would you rather do this or have 1k gems

[signal osprey]

Slow progress towards an eventual bonus is better than literally doing nothing

[cerulean hemlock]

The latter is me!

[haughty cove]

do it

[cerulean hemlock]

Waiting for 2k

[haughty cove]

[signal osprey]

Because we have no choice. I dont even have that sigil yet

[haughty cove]

i wish you get jackpot 5 times

[vagrant mountain]

we must not be slaves to our liquid any longer

break free

[cerulean hemlock]

I've gotten only one jp since arcade was released

[signal osprey]

I will always be enslaved by my bubbles

[haughty cove]

i didn't get jp ever

[cerulean hemlock]

*sigils

[haughty cove]

no black pickle

not even a hat

[cerulean hemlock]

I got 2 stamps that were the same

[signal osprey]

Sigils are just perma afk though

[cerulean hemlock]

Got 2 of those

[haughty cove]

i got no stamps also

[signal osprey]

Bubbles require me to go farm liquid

[cerulean hemlock]

Got one of those

[haughty cove]

[sick sentinel]

do you think maybe we need to wait for the next reset? not up yet for me after updating but that could be the case

[vagrant mountain]

so close yet so far

[tall horizon]

Ya, it should work on next reset after updating.

[pine yacht]

I mainly wish I'd get jackpot now rather than later so I can sink all the gold balls into ref speed

[potent gust]

Heyah, I'm gonna do that post but i'm curious about where should I work on the game (based on my IE). Alchemy is ofc being worked on with Stamps, but i'm just not sure what to focus. My main priority atm is to focus on VMan (W3 skulls left) also, yeah ignore my divinities I did link for resampling. I've plans to move half of them from the lab to do more stuff (i cazn re-link them tomorrow)

Thanks ❤️

https://lilith_rolled.idleonefficiency.com/

[pine yacht]

like gems are nice and all but I need ref speed XD

[icy bone]

And then I had to craft another food bag and everything, put carry cap star signs and star signs doubler chip to get the pouch, only to realise I miss one smithing level, I'm only lv.67 and 68 to craft it :sigh: xD

[eternal wasp]

Can anyone link me to the Google spreadsheet which has about pets and sailing?

[lavish cloak]

craft it on one, hand it to the other

[cerulean hemlock]

Mhmm

[eternal wasp]

I can't find it in pins

[icy bone]

That would implied I have enoguh carry cap on char other than my vman which is not the case x)

[broken plaza]

Is there a reccomended chest level when using arrowhead?

[sick sentinel]

usually just the wooden chests still

[willow drum]

work harder, alchemy, stamps, meals, anvil upgrades, forge upgrades upgrade everything

[sick sentinel]

#1134957219889303552 message

[eternal wasp]

That helped, ty.

[pine yacht]

I should use those shitty ass div pearls sometime soon... most likely on cooking...

[tall horizon]

Can never use them all lol

[tacit tulip]

run out pretty fast without doot

[vagrant mountain]

almost at 10k stamps

[tacit tulip]

I've used the birb like...once lol

[pine yacht]

using it now mainly for skill xp... for vman

[potent gust]

Everything gets softlocked at some moment with that kind of direction especially with Alchemy. I've seen that my BB had way better Laddles rate now (35 / day) so I'll put him afk there once i can relink my characters (even if i'll loose nobisect)

Stamps i'm working slowly (same as Alchemy the ressource / money isn't something overflowing rn)

I have to see for finishing forge / anvil upgrades yep thanks for that reminder o/

[vagrant mountain]

this stamp good

[tacit tulip]

Makes me really sad lava stole my 1b stack

[willow drum]

biggest thing is unlocking the bubbles

[tall horizon]

ty for reminding me I need to swap prints for this

[vagrant mountain]

same haha

my bb finally printing fish again

[tall horizon]

feels wrong lol

[signal osprey]

Yeah I have 1 more level for the ladle stamp and then its time to finish maxing DR

[vagrant mountain]

how much DR do you have now, contract?

[pine yacht]

1 day I will resample my fishing... but it aint today

[cursive forge]

yay

[signal osprey]

My DK is at 20.86x with double crystal

[potent gust]

Unlocked 4 today haha, I'm getting decent rate / hour so i try but 10% isn't too friendly with me 😦

[vagrant mountain]

gross

[willow drum]

active bubo if you can to get more CC

[signal osprey]

And I get 22 DR shrine sometime this week I think

[vagrant mountain]

ima be at like 18.5ish after i get sigil upgrade

[potent gust]

CC influence the filling of cauldrons ? Really noob with CC 😭

[vagrant mountain]

dang im at 18/19 shrines and it feels like forever for a level

[signal osprey]

Thats the curse of doot

I perpetually have like 7 or 8 people in W4 with my shrines

[vagrant mountain]

i moved all my shrines to w5

[tacit tulip]

tbh with doot I'd probably move them w1

gmush to victory

[vagrant mountain]

why

hmm

[signal osprey]

If I get doot they stay in W4 anyway

[vagrant mountain]

would need to perma candy w1 to make it worth it

[willow drum]

eventually you'll just farm tremor worms afk

[rough wasp]

Time to get other vials

[tall horizon]

Need a way to not lose time when moving them

[tacit tulip]

maybe a w6 bonus

[vagrant mountain]

im just doing w5 eclipse before i think about moving my shrines

[tacit tulip]

or...the fractal bonus to force people to do it

[signal osprey]

No because then I'd have to move them

[potent gust]

Just unlocked 2 new meals (octoplop + canopy) not bad not bad

[signal osprey]

And I'd forget

[pine yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/he-just-like-me-fr-gif-25075803

[signal osprey]

Give me an excuse to be lazy

[vagrant mountain]

you cant be lazy contract

i rely on you for guidance

[signal osprey]

Well my guidance is that W4 is the final resting place for shrines even with doot

[rough wasp]

what lv is ur multiskill stamp snail

[tall horizon]

why w4?

(with doot)

[vagrant mountain]

idk why w4 but contract said w4 so im moving my shrines to w4

[rough wasp]

o i meant multitool

LOL mb

[signal osprey]

Well I need to do more div levels at some point so I could lab goat and then also cooking

[vagrant mountain]

XD

[tall horizon]

w4 without doot makes sense, but I cant see a reason why you should with.

[signal osprey]

And after that I would afk pearlers on everyone

[signal osprey]

Until W6

[rough wasp]

Trying to get mines up

[tall horizon]

ah, going for level 5 vial? lol

[signal osprey]

Level 6

Although with doot and most of my roster afk I could probably do 7 by W6 assuming I get doot on my next free roll

[vagrant mountain]

just gotta work on rucksack / mason jar / bug pouch / catching levels

[rough wasp]

ya im prioring mason jar

[vagrant mountain]

ive had my vman perma catching for like the past month

[rough wasp]

My vman is catching flies for statues

[tall horizon]

rite of passage lol

[vagrant mountain]

XD

i need to start ccd now

thats max ccd

[rough wasp]

daily CCD for u

[signal osprey]

I kind of want to do some math on 220 multitool. I know it'll be an obnoxious grind but I wanna know just how obnoxious

[vagrant mountain]

i feel like it might be more realistic than lvl 6 pearler vial

[signal osprey]

It will be harder than level 7 pearler lol

[vagrant mountain]

you think?

[tall horizon]

Considering the effort for 210, I would be surprised if its even possible

[signal osprey]

Definitely. 220 multitool would be very hard if its even doable

[tall horizon]

the mat req jump at these levels is a lot

[signal osprey]

But my vman has nothing better to do than catch until W6 anyway

So I'm up for a challenge

[vagrant mountain]

is that right? with gilded and 90%

[signal osprey]

Dear lord 1.4b

[vagrant mountain]

[tall horizon]

No way thats happening lol

[vagrant mountain]

nah its total i think

so its just over 1b

[tall horizon]

its not total

[cerulean hemlock]

Is this enough

[tall horizon]

Thats needed to unlock next tier

[cerulean hemlock]

Please tell me it's enough

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure IT shows total of all tiers you need

[tall horizon]

1 more

[cerulean hemlock]

I spent that one yesterday

[signal osprey]

So if he doesn't have 210 the 1.4b would include the cost of 210

[pine yacht]

here u go

[tall horizon]

1b still impossible then

[signal osprey]

We said that about 210 multitool at one point too

[tall horizon]

Fair, but that was a lot smaller of a jump

[vagrant mountain]

idk anything anymore

[paper sail]

210 multitool continues to elude me 😦 Can't hold enough fish to increase Bugsack. Can't hold enough bugs to increase Fishsack. Just gotta wait more weeks on big Mason Jar discounts

[signal osprey]

I never knew much to begin with

[vagrant mountain]

thats pretty deep

[signal osprey]

But I do know that I'm just gonna commit my vmqn to catching purgatory

220 multitool might not be realistic but ill be damned if that stops me from trying anyway

[vagrant mountain]

have you tried active ES on sand pots?

curious what kinda glass shards numbers you could pull

[tall horizon]

Will likely be needed anyways once we get w6 bags/buffs. No reason to not prepare now

[signal osprey]

I'll probably have to at some point but I'll put that off as long as I can because ES is gross

[vagrant mountain]

agreed

[pine yacht]

new unit, GpS, Glass per second

[vagrant mountain]

ES makes my grumblo sticky

[signal osprey]

Yeah increasing cap will be good for future proofing everything even if i don't get 220

[cursive forge]

oh damn I just get new points from unlocking portals in void?

I just got 300 more

[paper sail]

Congrats, you did the mechanic 👍

[bold quiver]

Does anyone here has a guild that i can join with my other acc? a maxed guild

[vagrant mountain]

i have a wholesome guild thats not maxed

i made it myself

[tall horizon]

Im more tempted to work on fish cap for more dr (and added benefit of ladle eff/cook speed)

[bold quiver]

honest guild at least

[vagrant mountain]

inviting unsuspecting newbs in w1

[pine yacht]

ayy

[signal osprey]

Yeah thats worth considering too depending on how close we can get to the next tier on each stamp when at the current max

[tall horizon]

and fishing is easier to level than catching now lol

[signal osprey]

Yeah last time I candied it I was getting like 2b per hour lol

[vagrant mountain]

what you need fishing levels for?

[tall horizon]

more carry cap for stamps

[vagrant mountain]

[signal osprey]

Ladle, cooking speed, and DR are all good fish based stamps

[vagrant mountain]

dammit let my vman rest

[signal osprey]

Also bug sack stamp takes fish which means it indirectly helps with 220 multitool

[vagrant mountain]

[tall horizon]

though the 190 cost for dr stamp is over 600k. 200 gonna be so damn much godshard lol

gonna have to actually farm some money

been like 6 months

[signal osprey]

Have you mathed how high we can get it at max discount?

[paper sail]

I run out of money every 5 days

[signal osprey]

Haven't actually checked the carry cap on it yet

[paper sail]

Actually did okay today

[tall horizon]

190

[signal osprey]

Oh thats not too bad then

[tall horizon]

need ~700m carry cap for 200

[dreamy rapids]

If I increase the trapping efficiency of my BM do I need to redo the traps?

[tall horizon]

Yes

[tacit tulip]

depends how much you gained

if it's like, 5 eff, maybe don't bother 😄

[dreamy rapids]

I wanted to start spending atoms on the trapping bubble

[tacit tulip]

ah, then yes definitely

[signal osprey]

Maybe its time to pick a fun number to push Mason jar to. I wonder how long 140 would take 🤔

[paper sail]

Not really worthwhile. Trapping scales kinda poopoo with efficiency, plus that bubble is easy to level semi-hourly via 3d printer

[tall horizon]

Probably just the time to stack atom tbh

[cursive forge]

I feel like the respawn rate in rift 1 is so slow

I can one hit the mobs but I still cant beat it

maybe I shouldnt do it on BB?

[paper sail]

Shouldn't do anything on BB lol

[signal osprey]

If 140 can be done within atom stack time then maybe 160 is the goal

[tacit tulip]

characters with manual respawn skills are preferred

[tall horizon]

I've only ever done DK crystal farming and gotten glass as a tertiary. If you really wanted to push, I think hard focusing ES should easily get the glass.

[signal osprey]

Yeah I would be doing it on DK mostly

[tacit tulip]

Contract might spontaneously combust if you make him use ES

[tall horizon]

lol

[signal osprey]

I am a strong anti ES advocate

[tall horizon]

I wouldnt want to use ES for it either

Im using ES to greenstack quest items, want to be off it again

[heavy moth]

how much GS you at Rashaken

[paper sail]

How bad are the shard requirements where you are?

[balmy kiln]

Any guide available on vman skilling?

[paper sail]

My next is 500 which isn't too bad

[signal osprey]

I think my last level was like 3.6k or something

[paper sail]

damn, okay

[tall horizon]

working on 190 right now, think I can get to around 193 until I hit the long green stack grinds. Like statues

[spice frigate]

why is my exp per hour going down the more i level for divinity, isn't that backwards lol

[cursive forge]

if I want to farm w1 crystal which map is the best for Vman

[paper sail]

Why are you farming crystals with Vman specifically? DK gives much, much, much, much better loot

[cursive forge]

cause I dont have chocolate chips and I mostly going for crystal card

[heavy moth]

nice thought i was catching up to endgames GS still got a long way to go

[old portal]

should i continue aiming for efury or is there something else i should get

[tall horizon]

What ya at? I think the 150-170 range is endgameish.

Higher than that is falling more into, pointless grind because nothing else to do

[fervent brook]

Is Rando bugged?

[tall horizon]

Yea

[heavy moth]

im at 160, missing all trapping tho then on quest item and some potion

[tall horizon]

Oh shit just remembered I still need ice bucket gstack.

[fervent brook]

allowing us to reactivate completed quests to greenstack quest items would be a really good feature.

[tall horizon]

Definitely think I can get 200

[heavy moth]

wish we could lock in storage chest XD sometime i click without thinking in replace stuff and i lose all my smapling page

[heavy moth]

with statue should be easy

[tall horizon]

I wouldn't say easy 😛

But possible

[heavy moth]

yea ahah

[spice frigate]

what level should I realistically get everyone for divinity? they've been locked up in lab in w4.. now locked up in divinity at w5? at what point can i actually like use my other chars

[heavy moth]

at what level of statue does it start scalling bad enough to hold on 10 mil of it XD

[signal osprey]

At no realistic point lol

[tall horizon]

It's a bit of a forever grind, you're going to want 128+ for 5% afk and +15 talents

[sacred verge]

when can we print statues?

[spice frigate]

well everyone says get to w4.. put everyone in lab until w5, then divinity until lv 2 then lab (with doot)

[keen pilot]

What's the fastest refinery speed that you could theoretically get right now?

[signal osprey]

We already can. Dk is the only thing we should be using most of the time anyway

[sacred verge]

i want that 100M/h statue prints tho

[signal osprey]

Get more drop rate

[sacred verge]

lol

[fast grail]

Hmm, Rash, do you remember what your catching eff was at for that fruit flies samples?

[old portal]

can some one help ty

idk which else to get before efury

[tall horizon]

Nope, didn't even think to keep track 🤷

[old portal]

i lack speed for the last 2 island

[sacred verge]

go for efury

[tall horizon]

oh shit no I did. This is one I talked with buddha about.
~750b eff and 56/min speed

[fast grail]

Dont think im missing too much eff. probably just a feasty issue

[signal osprey]

How big was the sample?

[fast grail]

ahh damn, ok so little under double my eff and a bit higher speed, guess i got all around progress to be made

[signal osprey]

Got my sights set on resampling soon and want to know what I should be aiming for

[tall horizon]

17.9m

[signal osprey]

Oh damn thats like 2.5x my current one. Guess I do need to sample

[fast grail]

Yeah this is my max, i need to leave w5 and start statue farming again, havent in months

[signal osprey]

Maybe I do a scuffed catching setup to see what I can expect

[fast grail]

that catching speed really does do a lot for the sample it seems

[tall horizon]

I wanna say my afk % was in the 440-450 range. Not 100% certain though.

[fast grail]

I can see that, you have decent IS chains?

[tall horizon]

ya

11/9

[old portal]

no new placeble trap with this one?

[fast grail]

Ok yeah, thats a good amount of afk from that

[tall horizon]

Nope

[fast grail]

I have IS chains, but they might as well not be IS chains

[tall horizon]

you got 5k family?

[fast grail]

Nope

5k family + IS chains probably the majority of the AFK% I am missing

[tall horizon]

The rest is likely just all the small things

[old portal]

what are the 2 least needed traps?

critters i mean

[sacred verge]

at what quickslap lvl does speed pots outpreform base dmg?

[tall horizon]

dung beetle and owl?

[old portal]

maybe owl and pengiun?

aight scarabs yeah

[tall horizon]

peng is used

[old portal]

oops i only need 1 to not trap

[tall horizon]

You need all for various things, but after reaching atom tier some you can just ignore

[old portal]

for atom tiearing ill just nblb it ill just aim for vials the next time i do trapping

still best exp traps?

aight i just did a trap fixing not bad ill take a break now

ty

[visual lava]

the red salt production

[paper sail]

I'm free

[tacit tulip]

with the fomo tokens back I'm kinda considering swapping my second bubo to an ES for the extra double god link

[paper sail]

I need to as well Feels bad to spend so many gems

[tacit tulip]

not gonna swap my second bb, cause my "good" one is the second page one and I don't want 2 DKs on the same page

[graceful gorge]

Hey,its worth going after rare mob drops with midas on?

[tacit tulip]

ES no, everyone else yes

[graceful gorge]

got it,ty

and how can i print statues?

[tacit tulip]

you don't really print them, dk farms them for you

Max crystal rate+DR

[graceful gorge]

oh got it,i heard someone talking about printing statues

[tacit tulip]

you get so many at the top end it might as well be

[graceful gorge]

lol

[worn frost]

why does w2 take so long to do, took 3 mins for wave 6-10 to spawn

[tacit tulip]

turn midas off for w2 colo

1. Waves spawn based on previous waves dying
2. W2 colo has gathering nodes (rocks/fish) that spawn as part of the waves, and despawn over time
3. The way they do this is they have a hidden HP that degrades over time. Midas increases their HP, making the time you wait increase

[hallow wing]

Grinding for power statues has been a pain so far, I'm getting way more of every other statue than power it sucks

[worn frost]

OHHH i love you so much rn

[paper nova]

How do you know shovel's timer for gaming?

[tacit tulip]

don't worry the w2/3/4/5 ones are slower 😄

doesn't say in game but the assistance sites like IE have a timer

[paper nova]

ty

[hallow wing]

How fun... I'd say the biggest problem rn is that I don't have chip doublers, I might post my IE in here soon to see if yall can figure out what I'm missing

[tall horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/rashaken-idleon-shovel-nugget-gaming-gif-4585567173559318388

if its sparkling, click it

[hallow wing]

https://egirlwalter.idleonefficiency.com OK figured out how to do it, 5th character is my power statue grinder

Im sure there's a ton of shit i could improve on, but meh lol

[tacit tulip]

get the star talent

[solar flume]

im torn between pushing eclypse skulls or farming kruk keys for necklace/wings/trophy. what do u guys think is more important?

[tall horizon]

10x

Eclipse skulls are really a candy grind

[teal lynx]

Is that a Bug or are 6 people really doing nothing?
Also DR Obols are really important. I would recommend farming them at some point

[tall horizon]

and if you're not doing eclipse via candy, you definitely want scarf on anyone doing it

so still scarf first

[misty spindle]

How many crystals spawn at the crystal island in a day? I just fought like 10 of them, did they stack because I just bought the island or is there just a lot of them every day?

[solar flume]

thanks! ima put everyone on wurms now lmao

[tall horizon]

they accumulate

[tall horizon]

I think its 3day

[misty spindle]

and what is their hp based on? what mob? xp they give also

[tall horizon]

no idea 🤷

[zinc torrent]

turk varsa dm atsın

[tall horizon]

Guess I should ask, are you capable of killing N. Kruk on all chars? If not, grinding keys is pointless.

[solar flume]

not all....but they'll level up i think while farming for keys

[hallow wing]

Was on the wrong build mb,

[tall horizon]

Level is less important than having the damage/patience to do it.

[hallow wing]

I forgot to make them do something, that's my bad

[tall horizon]

Focusing other stuff to boost damage would be a higher priority than farming keys

[hallow wing]

Oh shit those are ready? Gonna claim those now

[solar flume]

i need to do the bosses for the good armor. otherwise, im not sure what else to do. im pushing talent books as well XD

[signal lava]

your salts are such a high level for your total construction levels only being at 530ish. are you just not doing buildings?

[tacit tulip]

that or they've stacked their board wrong, good catch, worth looking at

[hallow wing]

Probably a mix of both, haven't put much into my old buildings, and I didn't put much focus into cogs

[tacit tulip]

to potentially help then, the trick to construction is to just completely stack exp

build speed scales really well with level, so a board full of exp cogs, with directional exp cogs pointing at a DK, produces the highest build speed

and mines not even fast.

[hallow wing]

Oh! OK yeah I'll try that then

Greens were done though

[quartz crystal]

Does multikill affect pop obols or is it just main drops for every mob

[hallow wing]

Also, blues aren't done apparently

[heavy moth]

ion speed run what am i missing to be able to get to troll

[clear quartz]

3 ish more hours and ill finally be done with ES statues and can go back to... dk i guess. maybe time for some hard bubo pushing but might wait to push more after i get more roadkill bubble

[tacit tulip]

just main mob drop

[quartz crystal]

Rip

[tacit tulip]

you're not really expected to get to troll in a speed run tbh

[lavish cloak]

what really helps with that is getting all onyx statues then farming w2 alchemy cauldron statue

[teal lynx]

Oh IE made a mistake then :D
Atleast you got your Green Rank Up

[heavy moth]

rip need to sample to stilted eyes guess ill finish vial through ES

[clear quartz]

thats actually a great idea lol, was thinkin id just do beans but yeah, i like that

[hallow wing]

Is there a specific spot I should put my DK btw? Or does it not really matter

[tacit tulip]

at least 2 from the edges so the square ones can reach him

[hallow wing]

Ah, okay!

[lavish cloak]

speaking of farming w2 statues, do we do that at sand pots for glass or do we go ham on sandcastles?

[tacit tulip]

my board isn't finished yet but you can see I have a lot of base exp cogs, and a bunch of directionals pointing to the dk

[clear quartz]

sandpots or tysons i believe is the meta

[tacit tulip]

sandpost for the glass ye

[empty ridge]

Good spot to farm statutes in w2 as a SB?

Statues

[grizzled elk]

for the statue quest?

[tacit tulip]

this is a more complete build using two DKs compared to mine

[empty ridge]

Yeah for the 100k

[lavish cloak]

siegebreaker? um...if you're committed to SB farming then probably sandcastles or sand giants.

but you could just as easily mine dreadlo for 10k statues a day

[grizzled elk]

I think mining is most optimal to get them

[tacit tulip]

sand giants is a terrible map to active, just mine dreadlo

[empty ridge]

I did it twice at beans I need w2 statues lol

[hallow wing]

I'll try to get smth like that then!

[paper sail]

Those Premiums are "badly" setup with a 7/7 split. You'd get more with 1 getting 8/8 and the other getting 6/8

Hotdog hat being the "main" builder, Pirate being the backup

[tacit tulip]

I was just looking for a random screenshot tbh

I only have one DK so don't need to put thought into it anyway 😄

[paper sail]

Fair enough. Just for anyone else reading and taking notes 😛

[tacit tulip]

@vagrant mountain scoli doesn't like your construction layout 😛

[paper sail]

Yeah, eat shit @vagrant mountain

[signal osprey]

I do the 7/7 because ocd

[paper sail]

Banned for life, bye

[tacit tulip]

I guess true optimal is 6/8 and making sure 8 is the afk DK

would be a waste for it to be the 6

[paper sail]

Right

[signal osprey]

You should be banned for not using a bob hat on either DK

Or at least the engineer hat if you just had bad bob rng smh

[hallow wing]

Fixed my cog build up with barely any new cogs and I already got like double build speed

[tacit tulip]

and you're not even levelling yet 😄

[paper sail]

Hm.. That requires using a premiumifier but I guess I do have one.

[tacit tulip]

if you don't have sheepie remember to equip the bob bubble on your DKs too

[paper sail]

Speaking of, I got my Bob to 2k today

[tacit tulip]

no, I see you typing scoli

I know it's bad

😄

I've been being irresponsible and levelling the talent bubbles instead because it's funny to try and max a page

[signal osprey]

Peak construction performance

[hallow wing]

Oh yeah oops

[tacit tulip]

soon I will have ultimate power

oh

[paper sail]

I'm sure when w6 adds 100 more book levels, you'll be happy you did it

[tacit tulip]

ultimate power

wait, shit

I can't read apparently

fine tomorrow instead.

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure the middle talent would have been more defense anyway

Gotta get those shimmer stonks

[tacit tulip]

I don't even use the top right one

Just didn't notice I was missing the other

[paper sail]

I don't know that I've ever seen/heard anyone talk about Squire5 before

I think we all understand it is a dud

[signal osprey]

Yeah its only use is shimmer now

[tacit tulip]

maybe long in the past it had a way to get you mega crits to 200%

but we are well beyond that now

[signal osprey]

You would definitely lose damage if you used that to get 200% crit lol

[tacit tulip]

taking a pause levelling random talents now to try and get orange salt bubble into atom range

[paper sail]

Balanced Spirit needed a change, just like ES's Mana is Life. Too bad

[lilac patrol]

hi question: the gloves recipe for journeyman at the suggma is already revealed on the droptable on the suggma card. Does this mean it already dropped for me ? if yes does this mean i can no longer obtain it?

[tacit tulip]

icons like that work based on the appearance, it being visible means you've had a different w5 recipe drop

a recipe can drop as long as it's on the card, you can get multiple even, it removes it from the card once unlocked

like so

[lilac patrol]

Owwh oke, thank you. already killed about 500m of them so i was starting to get a bit worried

[tacit tulip]

yeah it's just hellish to drop

as some advice, check how many royal suggma ashes you have

the drop rate on that is 1000x higher, so on average you'd get about 1000 before the recipe

[lilac patrol]

owwh i have long gone past that XD

[tacit tulip]

you can use it to guage how much you've grinded (multikill doesn't increase drop chances)

this is your score to beat

I've seen higher but that's my personal stash

[lilac patrol]

Damn, rn i have 1600 i think. but also spend some on the stamp

[tacit tulip]

yeah it's not a perfect guess

[lilac patrol]

but no worries it will drop eventually, thank you for the information though

[tacit tulip]

but closer than trying to go by kills

[clear quartz]

maybe i should farm that out before i do dk stuff again

[fading cape]

1 more to go.... 20k left... and then... it finally ends....

[lilac patrol]

i more question though, which obol is better the dementia droprate or the molten obol of the divine?

[fading cape]

for AFK characters I use the molten. For my active DK and ES I use drop rate.

[lilac patrol]

thankss

and family tab?

[tropic kiln]

who is the best to do this

[sacred verge]

i would guess bubo maybe, but i dont know

[fading cape]

for me i'd be beastmaster I think. the cannon skill that fires multiple straight line shots, plus the multi-arrow skill, plus his 3 multi-hit standard attack.

Other options are possible bubo clicks.

[lavish cloak]

I got highest on my SB

[tropic kiln]

yea prob sb

[sacred verge]

SB you mean?

[fading cape]

yeah that one. I alway smix up the archers

[sacred verge]

🇳🇴

[tropic kiln]

thanks guys

[lavish cloak]

ES might technically be better if you can proc literally the luckiest tornados in the world

[tropic kiln]

I dont wanna leave it up to rng

[lavish cloak]

SB just has so many abilities that single target

[fading cape]

yeah that an meteor was my first thought. But then I had a flashback to all those meteors and tornadoes I watched trail off into nothingness

you can keep retrying can't you?

[lavish cloak]

yes

it keeps a record of the highest you get

and you claim it when you're done trying

as long as it's before the weekly cooldown

[sacred verge]

does it matter what class i atom bubbles on? in terms of cost

[tropic kiln]

I mean shimmer rewards aint even worth the minmaxing

[tropic kiln]

if its at 1b resource no

if you can get a discount yes

[sacred verge]

i was thinking about 1 bill bubbles ye

[fading cape]

If you're at a point where one character can use atoms and another can't due to material reduction it will matter for that.

[lavish cloak]

yes, each class gets a discount to a corresponding color, so i you're shooting for 100mil to get bubble-able, then it's gonna matter a shit ton to you that the discount keeps you from attoming the bubble on certain characters

[dreamy rapids]

Probably yes until they reach their atom cap

[sacred verge]

i was thinking purely for atom cost for a 1 bill cost bubble

[tropic kiln]

then it doesnt change the cost

[lavish cloak]

if it's at a billion, then the atom cost is the same no matter what. only lowering the cost of materials from 1 billion will reduce the atom cost

[fading cape]

that's how I got hammer bubble to atom level. Used archer and reduction tag to get it to like 11m cost. Then switched to bubo because cost was 105m on him instead. So I could start atom'ing and stop using iron bars

[dreamy rapids]

I just let NBLB do all the work

[sacred verge]

NBLB does so little work, lol

[dreamy rapids]

Did enough to push the bubbles I want to over 100M cost

[clear quartz]

slowly getting the bubbles i care about atomed decently, hoping i can get nblb to do the heavy lifting on the real awkward ones more reliably soon

[tropic kiln]

do I just atom this for damage

[sacred verge]

you need to hit 10T dmg before it turns into "trillion" right?

[sacred verge]

im doing that aswell, lol

even tho the dmg is almost a waste by now

[tropic kiln]

I need the dmg

[sacred verge]

what for?

[tropic kiln]

I need bob too

[fading cape]

what is your current damage with that bubble at that level? I'm at like 600b and my bubble is only level 140.

[dreamy rapids]

There are so many Bubbles I want to level up but so uses

[tropic kiln]

mk

[tropic kiln]

93b

[sacred verge]

quickslap dosent add super big dmg at low lvls

[tropic kiln]

yea I know

[sacred verge]

i get waay more dmg from base dmg pot

[fading cape]

your quickslap is 938 and your damage is 93B? I think my suggestion would be spend all atoms on base skill stats at that point

[tropic kiln]

you mean str agi wis ?

[fading cape]

yeah

[tropic kiln]

ok

[sacred verge]

i get 26 bill dmg from a single base dmg pot and only 5 bill from speed pot

[fading cape]

unless you're hourly clicking

[sacred verge]

my quickslap is only like 400 tho

[tropic kiln]

I am not

[sacred verge]

but it just shows that u need quite a bit of points in quickslap for it to be very strong

[dreamy rapids]

Really?

[fading cape]

yeah then base stats. Once you have all your talents for increased use from base stats and percent of base stats from tab 4 and tab 3, it just becomes so so strong to upgrade base stat bubbles beyond level 800

[sacred verge]

yep

[tropic kiln]

those bubble 1 stats doesnt get affected my all stats right

[dreamy rapids]

So to what level I should level it up to?

[paper sail]

You also need a lot of Food Effect

[sacred verge]

yep

food effect is op for base dmg pot aswell

[tropic kiln]

is this good

[signal osprey]

You really don't need that much

[sacred verge]

thats low

[tropic kiln]

😭

[paper sail]

It's okay, but I'm over double that lol

[signal osprey]

At 260% movespeed Quickslap has the same scaling as name I guess does at 1m mana

[fading cape]

I'm not 100% what does and doesn't, but your bubble 2 and 17 do affect it. I get like 3 or 4 base stat for every one point in base stat bubble

[signal osprey]

You really don't need much food effect at all

Its just that more is better

[dreamy rapids]

Don't food effect do most of the work for more movement speed

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[dreamy rapids]

So it's not that important?

Or is it

[signal osprey]

You want as much as you can get but there isn't really a minimum that you need to make it good

[dreamy rapids]

How does Quickslap scales?

[clear quartz]

is the voidwalker 250 boost impossible to get as of right now? 245 is my max book and i think his stuff doesnt overmax, unless im missing some max book thing

[tropic kiln]

https://jamieragaming.idleonefficiency.com

guys what do I need to do for big time damage

or overall account progress

(please ignore the overflowing worship and minibosses)

[signal osprey]

Well the movespeed portion is linear which is why its the best of the base damage bubbles as the other two are logs

And the bubble level scaling is quadratic which is why the base damage bubbles are good to begin with

[dreamy rapids]

So I should focus on quick slap over the other 2 regardless of class?

[signal osprey]

If using atoms yes theres no reason to atom the other 2

Name I guess is good to print though as gold is easy so it let's you use atoms for other things

[noble sable]

Where is this available?

[stoic crow]

Probably next boss rotation... maybe

[paper sail]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Weekly_Battles

You were already on the wiki to see the change.. Could have just searched for the item and seen the source from there

[noble sable]

Oooohhhhhh thanka

Yeah yeah mb..

[thin kernel]

so for sailing.. when im done "hopefuly soon" is it jus to set it to "last island" and mass farming it.. til i hit the mats on the "ghost" ?

[fading cape]

outside of leveling any boats to level 300 and collecting sailing materials for alchemy bubbles to get to atom point, I don't know what else to do once you have all eldritch

[paper sail]

I sorted my boats by slowest, assigned 1 to every island, then the last remaining boats all going to final island

Gets me some of all materials 🤷 Trying to hit 60m boat speed across the board in case w6 adds more islands

[tacit tulip]

yeah, not expecting more islands but nice to be prepared just in case

[paper sail]

Most mechanics/skills get updated in some way in future worlds. I'm expecting it

[rotund moth]

Does Arctis remove all lab exp gain or can I still upload people into the lab and get xp for them?

[paper sail]

You can still upload them for Lab Exp

[rotund moth]

Bet, ty

[wanton stag]

for droprate silver square obols whats the best +% drop rate you can reroll?

is it always +1% of the base percentage

[tacit tulip]

yeah

and when combining, left obol inherits that 1% so you don't need to reroll the higher tiers

[wanton stag]

oh so when i combine to gold i cant get an extra 1% from the reorll (total 2% at that point)

[paper sail]

Only rerolls on the left obol are kept during merges

[tacit tulip]

nah it's just to save costs, rolling a silver costs less than rolling a gold

[wanton stag]

kk thanks

[wanton stag]

anyone have a copy of the most updated IdleOn Guide Sheet

[tacit tulip]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQHKsA7L-VGS5_JCJeLPUiFJ8mvooLaVRUpkq5t3aeu-rkEPgjZJhjX39t5spXU5jjfixN4SwjXjo08/pubhtml#

think this is the current one

[heavy moth]

jsut to be sure old sample x 1.66 (22days of Goldenskull) = the amount i need to beat in my new resampling right ?

[fallow aurora]

??? wasn't w5 released months ago?

[misty spindle]

still relevant

[tacit tulip]

the packs cycle in/out depending on what you have, bit the popup is defintiely a bit dated

[paper sail]

The skull will accumulate again in the future, so you don't strictly have to beat it.. But if you don't beat it, you will lose total output for a few days until skull levels again 🤷

[heavy moth]

yea for sure 😛 wanted to be sure if my math were right. atm with that might 75 % of my resampling was worth it and 25 % mostly wood didn<t had enough gainz tho its normal since its already high

[tacit tulip]

just do what I do and accidentally press sample when doing something else, ruining your bonus

[heavy moth]

ahahha ripping the bandaid off

the outcome were mostly positive

[tacit tulip]

yeah looks solid

[paper sail]

383/hr

[heavy moth]

AHAHHA my neglected BM

no idea what to print on him

[paper sail]

I would have hid that from the screenshot lmao

[tacit tulip]

I tend to just do a crappy bug sample on bm for atoms

[heavy moth]

yeaa thought of that after pressing enter

[paper sail]

I do w5/w4 monster mat vials, then some rando crap for stamps 🤷

[heavy moth]

yea i guess a couple million fly would be better than 382 horn

[signal osprey]

Mine has refinery and PO6 mats

[tacit tulip]

I really should try sampling mob mats since getting eclipse, those are really solid

[heavy moth]

did all monster mats on vman tho

all remaining vial **

[tacit tulip]

yeah but late w4/early w5 are hard to sample on vman

so bm does have a niche there

[paper sail]

Yeah. Some combination of refinery and vials between the two

[heavy moth]

yea gues ill do that

[fallow aurora]

which max talent book should I check out?

[paper sail]

I forgot I maxed this vial already and just did another 1b yellow souls

[tacit tulip]

safe greenstack incase you spend it I guess

[paper sail]

Almost wish I could spend some on the stupid stamp before leaving the map eats them for atom particles

[tacit tulip]

fartghost for better map coverage, wis if you still need more damage (/money)

make a second stack?

[paper sail]

Good call. Always forget I can do that

[fallow aurora]

I literally don't use my bubo other than daily CC so fartghost ig

[paper sail]

Better than 20 particles, I guess

[sly jetty]

should i try the sk upgrade stones on divine gear, or just stick with shop stones

very temped

[paper sail]

Try it on Magma gear. If RNG is good, yay, sampling gear. If RNG is bad, craft it into Kruk

[sly jetty]

smart thanks

[heavy moth]

gainzzz ahahha

[feral hemlock]

What highscore TD was that?

[paper sail]

Now I have this dumb stamp leveled 😂

[willow drum]

Should use BM to sample bugs

they're not too bad

[gloomy dragon]

are 2 people free to come to pizza 8 to dance need it for the achievement w4

[willow drum]

bosses kinda easy

[fast verge]

cool obal!

[paper sail]

The first few obols are fun

[fast verge]

dr obals are too good to pass up tho 😔

[paper sail]

They're BIS for every non-active activity though

Still good to keep ~12 of those around

Place your bets. Will I get troll wings finally while I do the 100 kill quest? :c

[signal osprey]

I finally got my first pair doing that quest

[heavy moth]

yes definetly

[fading cape]

You will never achieve what you desire until you release your desire to achieve it.

so... no

[signal osprey]

I wanted mine and got it

[teal lynx]

Farming Beans feels so good after those annoying W3 Statues. Definitely should have candied all of them. I only candied 1

[fading cape]

My one hour candy is only 31 statues. I'm on the very last one. 18k to go

[fading cape]

If I had the candy to get to 20k on candy alone... I 100% would though. Tired of this

[paper sail]

I'm already tired of trashing these obols

[signal osprey]

Beans

I just didnt pick them up lol

[teal lynx]

Mine was 33 an hour. Not better. But after a week of Active ES I didn't care about my Candy

[signal osprey]

Candy exists to be used

[paper sail]

but I gotta gstack frags

[signal osprey]

Use it

[fallow aurora]

what does faster minimum boat travel time do? (the SB family bonus)

[misty spindle]

is it a dumb idea that I took candy island as my 4th?

[paper sail]

50 down, no wings 😦

[paper sail]

Makes the islands take less than 120 minutes to get to, round trip

[fallow aurora]

ty

[signal osprey]

Nah thats the best one

Rando is bugged and fractal is a joke

[misty spindle]

fuckin awesome dude

how many crystal spawn in a day there? also what happens if my first kill in a day is one of giant crystals? I know chocy chip works with them

[tacit tulip]

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Desire Sensor

[signal osprey]

Its only 1 or 2 giants a day and choco procs spawn normal crystals not more giants

On average I think the expected outcome is 4 hours of candy per day which isnt anything crazy but its better than nothing

[teal lynx]

What is an Average Orb score on Beans for you Guys?
Mine is around 500. 255 Orb Talent. Just wanna make sure I am not doing anything wrong here

[misty spindle]

got like 40 first time I came

[signal osprey]

First time has like a week of crystals

Youll get less tomorrow

[tacit tulip]

honestly I've not checked, I just went "beans" and started farming

[misty spindle]

[signal osprey]

I get like 500-600 usually on beans

[paper sail]

I always sit with alchemy or storage open lol

Cool guys don't look at bean genocide

[tacit tulip]

you got lava mathed. enjoy your 79.5 trash

[placid timber]

Damn

[paper sail]

Get it tomorrow, nbd

[placid timber]

👍🏽

[stiff kayak]

im going to put my 2nd ES on lab wich god besides goat should i have on?

[paper sail]

Harriep or Omniphau

[gray pagoda]

#💖future-content-blog message
What does this mean?

[tacit tulip]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gray pagoda]

It has the crystallin stamp on it too, so does that mean it'll be getting an update?

[paper sail]

I assumed the Hints tab

[stiff kayak]

that doesnt help when i dont know the name of the divinitys

[paper sail]

Sounds like your problem.. Bunny or Elephant

[stiff kayak]

tiger? bunny?

ok

[tacit tulip]

surely if you're doing your second link you'll see the name as you put points in? 😄

[paper sail]

Ayo! Lucky #73 dropped the wings

[toxic grail]

how do you get the chemical plants in gaming? i've unlocked it a while ago but now that i think about it i haven't seen a single one

[tacit tulip]

they're just rare spawns

like, 1%?

sprinkler good for getting them

[gray pagoda]

Try less

[stiff kayak]

what does chem plant do

[toxic grail]

alright thanks

guess i just got unlucky

[gray pagoda]

Oh, you mean to spawn them, mb

[fast verge]

welp
one off

[gray pagoda]

Thought you meant to get them. Sakori is probably right, don't listen to me lol.

[tacit tulip]

the tier of the plant gives you a timeskip. It's the tier, squared: 1,4,9,16,25 hours

[untold saffron]

Skips gaming time forward

[tacit tulip]

Under the right (wrong) circumstances you can cycle chem, sprinkler, and log almost indefinitely

Until you cry from clicking gaming

[stiff kayak]

so an inf cycle

?

[paper sail]

Time skips that feed each other, yes

[tacit tulip]

Chems pass time, harvest all other plants
User sprinkler, spawning more plants. This might be more chems
Harvest everything except chems
Use log, causing timeskip, maybe more chems
Use sprinkler again to maybe spawn more chems

Use shovel/squirrel to maybe get gains

Use a chem

repeat

[paper sail]

Crying is part of my instructions for gaming

[tacit tulip]

I actively don't do gaming for a week or two at a time because I get fed up of chem chains

I've been on the same chem chain for about 3 months lol

probably spent 20 hours clicking it

snail dropped to 10 again last week so I'm sulking at it

[untold saffron]

I somehow still enjoy chem chains

[paper sail]

When are we getting Wing/Cape transmogs?

[signal osprey]

I just stopped clicking this and chem chains got better

[tacit tulip]

if I do keep chaining w5 will be the first world I have all achievements on

[untold saffron]

I should buy rando instead of saving for fractal right?

Sailing is completed so that bonus is meh

[tacit tulip]

yeah get fractal last

[signal osprey]

I know that the shovel is never gonna do anything anyway so no point in waiting for its little lockout timer between uses every time I log or chem

It speeds up the process by a decent bit

[tacit tulip]

I still have the copium on mine

[paper sail]

All done

[untold saffron]

What's your current nug?

[signal osprey]

58k

[paper sail]

25k w4 crystals Wish I could have timed that with Onyx statue farming better

[signal osprey]

You can never farm too many crystals so its all good

Think of the extra pearlers

[paper sail]

I do still need 2k to get vial4 I guess

[signal osprey]

Do 5

[paper sail]

5 is stinky

[signal osprey]

I candied 5 lol

I did 1b clams on DK and that got me to 4 with like 3k extra and I candied the rest

[twin token]

How many Chem plants should I save before picking them

[paper sail]

None. Use them as needed

[twin token]

Alr cool

How much time does a t3 Chem give?

[signal osprey]

9 hours

[twin token]

Thx

[paper nova]

When a growth cycle hits gaming does it grow 1 plant at a time or will it grow to max? or is it a random amt?
I'm never sure if I should keep my plants picked or just let my max be max/max to let things evolve

[tacit tulip]

each cycle runs a % chance against each plant on the board to see if it upgrades

[paper sail]

My understanding is every plant has a chance to evolve to the next tier when the growth cycle hits

[tacit tulip]

higher tier = lower % chance

[misty spindle]

how many plants can grow per cycle tho

just 1?

[paper nova]

Right so should i leave my board maxed out ?

[tacit tulip]

all definitely can

it kinda spreads them out a bit

[misty spindle]

depends what you want no? If you still dont have all the mutations you want to keep getting more and more and thus preferably never go above say level 3 plants,imo

[tacit tulip]

like if you had a 1 hour cycle, all lvl 1 plants, and claimed 1hr gaming afk, each plant would attempt to upgrade to tier 2 once

[misty spindle]

whats the better upgrade for squirel?

[paper nova]

So after collecting everything for log book it's not general practice to let things sit past lvl 3?

[tacit tulip]

If you're chem cycling things will shoot past 3 often anyway

[paper nova]

I guess that makes a big diff- my cycles are 6 hrs atm so I don't think of things on a 1 hr cycel

[signal osprey]

Nah just chems and berries as thats where the vast majority of your bits and exp will come from

I pick everything else regardless of tier

[tacit tulip]

I dunno whats optimal but bit gain is always strong

I keep bit cost 100 ahead of speed

[misty spindle]

is chem going to be a big game changer for me? I can barely get 200 green bits

[signal osprey]

Chem changes gaming entirely

[tacit tulip]

it's a very different game yeah

[paper sail]

Finally passed 1b build rate

[misty spindle]

Id rather try my luck with nugget since speed is harder to get

[tacit tulip]

you can't spend acorns on nuggets

I don't even use kitsune tbh

so going speed is a waste for me

[misty spindle]

but the nugget can be insanly more then measly .02 I get from acorns

[tacit tulip]

ok but you could have both

[paper sail]

I keep mine even 🤷

[misty spindle]

there just seems to many other upgrades for bit gain and too little for speed imo

[paper nova]

if people are getting cycles down to 1 hr then i think that's pretty fast tbh

[signal osprey]

[paper sail]

1hr is sloowwww

[tacit tulip]

1hr cycles is slow tbh

[paper nova]

better than 6 hrs 😏

[tacit tulip]

I have mid gaming, and no kit active, and mines 19 mins lol

[paper nova]

o.o

[misty spindle]

how much with kit active?

[tacit tulip]

idk I haven't finished my chem chain in 3 months 😄

[paper nova]

19 min is insanely fast then.... compared to lvl 1 gaming at 8 hrs? lmao

[paper sail]

level 393, 14.8 min here

[paper nova]

what's the kit?

[paper sail]

With rock, I'm under 3 minutes

[paper nova]

😮 I want 3 min rock active farming

oooh kit=the rock

[paper sail]

I leveled my rock to 161 while I was t6 farming. Turned it off and haven't leveled it since

[misty spindle]

I gotta say, Im happy that using fertilizer in the start wasnt a mistake at all, lava made a good decision to make them less valuable over time

[tacit tulip]

I'ma just use mine when I run out of chems

restarting the chems

itneverends

😢

[misty spindle]

gem shop?

[signal osprey]

I think if I can get get sub 2 minutes I'll try for a T7 lol

[tacit tulip]

w5 divinity piggy quest

[barren otter]

[barren otter]

2min gonna take a while...

[misty spindle]

didnt know it gave that much damn

[old crane]

Is using kit worth it?

[clear quartz]

i need to push so many bubbles :c

[signal osprey]

Well I dont have purrmep on so I'm missing some speed there

[paper sail]

I burned through all ~80 fertilizers I had when going for t6 lol

[signal osprey]

Should hopefully be at least another .1 lol

[misty spindle]

damn, free stuff

[tacit tulip]

I still need to hand the last one in with 5 chars lol

so that's anotehr 30/25

[barren otter]

oh i just meant that the red bit cost to upgrade speed/kit is getting out of hand

nearly 1m red bits for 1 lvl is brutal for me

[signal osprey]

Yeah it can get a bit pricy for sure

But mines a little underleveded so I should be able to a do a few levels pretty easily. Probably not quite 2 mins though

Not that I'd actually get a T7 anyway

[barren otter]

i dont even have the superbit purchased lmfao

kinda went full cba after getting msa class/skill exp

[tacit tulip]

mmmhm tasty crit statues

[signal osprey]

I could have purchased it I just havent because not really worth it

My fertilizer upgrade already cost more than it does lol

[barren otter]

the button lit up so i had to press it

[signal osprey]

I plan to do some div leveling soon and I'll throw on purrmep when I do so I'll grab the superbit then

Just try to send it for a T7 when I have the purrmep speed and see what happens

Until then I'll keep the 300m for more upgrades

[barren otter]

i cant wait to do div leveling when i finish W5 eclipses

maybe afk a full week on div lmao

[signal osprey]

I've just been waiting until my gold skull gets high enough to do clicks without needing the full multipliers so I could actually afford to run goat

[clear quartz]

i think im trying to get snail too early, anyone know what lvl my stuff should be at to make a realistic push for it?

[paper sail]

I wouldn't save more than 3-5 days for Snail personally

If it is that long, you likely could reinvest and get there in the same total time

[tacit tulip]

same for all the unlocks really

[clear quartz]

ahhh gotcha, its been i think 2 weeks of saving, plus whatever free gamer progress from elephant and dk procs

[tacit tulip]

Your other gains are nugg (rng), gaming level and artifacts

[clear quartz]

256lvl sprout and 116 shell, i guess i can keep pumping those or maybe push nugget so i can get lucky on a big nug

[misty spindle]

I dont have the console box yet but I have a 12k nugget is that any good??

[paper sail]

Don't bank on a nugget increase lol

[tacit tulip]

12 is enough to get the snail at least

I unlocked it with 10

[clear quartz]

my max possible is 290k and only have like 9k so i should be getting lucky... eventually

[tacit tulip]

don't ever have hope for a nugg

you'll never get it

[clear quartz]

:c

[tacit tulip]

if you get one? Great

but don't rely on it

[misty spindle]

really? and how so, Ive been trying to get the chem plant but its taking a while, no idea what Im doing wrong honestly

[edgy pendant]

What’s a high nugg?

[paper sail]

Realistically, bottom 5% of your nugget range is what you should expect. bottom 10% if you're lucky

[clear quartz]

i guess i can hope to get the eldritch orb, i think i have all the other bit related artis

[signal osprey]

If you get a 10% nugget you're reasonably lucky

[paper sail]

Anything above 10%, I expect you flooded Lava's bank

[clear quartz]

133 lvl gaming so maybe i need to pump that too

[tacit tulip]

don't forget to work on slab if you can, one of the artifacts scales from it

the gummy orb

there's also achievements from super bits

[edgy pendant]

Guess I need to look into what I’m missing, I thought my nugg of 47k was holding me back 😅

[barren otter]

my nug is 35%

[paper sail]

Banned, big cheater

[tacit tulip]

I have a 3% nugg atm

[misty spindle]

this is it, my sailing is lacking unfortunetly, I dont even know where this is

[tacit tulip]

15k/420k

[signal osprey]

I make up for my nug by hitting 20 on snail

Maybe in a month I can hit 21

[tacit tulip]

oh yeah, if you're outright missing artifacts, that's where you're losing out

[barren otter]

yea its balancing out by me failing 16 snail for a week straight

might even go longer

[clear quartz]

3% here, lol

[tacit tulip]

don't even consider snail until you at least have the artis

[clear quartz]

yeah guess ill blow my wad then

[misty spindle]

yeah yeah I get it

[signal osprey]

I was going back and forth between 15 and 16 for at least a month

[tacit tulip]

In the last month I've reset from snail 12 to 10

3 times

[paper sail]

I hit snail 14 on a yolo with no encouragement, first try :3

[signal osprey]

Then once I finally hit 17 I just didnt reset anymore

No idea what happened but Im not gonna complain

[barren otter]

that was me last month but failing to hit 15 3 times

[signal osprey]

Still failed a few times but it was pretty smooth overall

[tacit tulip]

glad I didn't get snail until after the collider bonus

my pc would have been thrown out the window by now

[signal osprey]

I've had pretty good snail luck all things considered

I only reset a couple of times ever before the atom and even then I was already almost 15 when the atom came out

[paper sail]

My snail has never reset

and now I am never allowed to try leveling it again, lest I ruin it

[signal osprey]

When I first got the snail I somehow went straight to 10 without a single failure let alone a reset

Then I reset my first attempt at 11

[iron citrus]

New Post from.lava _ think he's hinting to new chara 11+

[fast grail]

My snail has reset on 13->14 5 times now

[pulsar condor]

What is technically the ideal class and subclass progression. Helping out a friend starting up

[iron citrus]

Typos everywhere lol

[paper sail]

Nothing about the little icons for hints sounds like 11th character to me

[tacit tulip]

Warrior/mage/archer, turning into Barb, shaman, bowman
Warrior/Mage/Archer, turning into Squire, Wizard, Hunter
Jman
Get advanced classes in w4, mman when you can
Get another warrior/mage/archer, probably DK, ES, SB

[iron citrus]

When I was looking at them to me the order of them is like the progress of starting a new char

[tacit tulip]

Order reasons: Warrior easiest to use early game. Classes are w2 classes
Secondary classes are w3 classes

[paper sail]

That's also the order of Hints in the Hint tab lol

[signal osprey]

Thats because those are icons for the ingame hint section which starts at W1 lol

[iron citrus]

I think I'm just wishful thinking I know lol

[signal osprey]

I would love to get my 5th warrior as much as the next guy but I dont think its happening yet

[tacit tulip]

we technically don't need another slot until world 7

[iron citrus]

Would be nice, would be able to 10mil some items I missed out on

[feral whale]

finally after 2-3 monthes new nugget

[iron citrus]

Gzz

[signal osprey]

I have a decision to make and I will leave it up to everyone here to decide my fate

Its a yes or no answer with no further context. Vote well

[cerulean hemlock]

No! Don't mess it up dude 😦

uh oh

[signal osprey]

Oh dear

[cerulean hemlock]

you've spiraled things out of control

[signal osprey]

Well

Looks like I gotta do 50 more W2 colo runs

[barren otter]

lets go

stream it

[signal osprey]

I cant imagine anybody wants to watch W2 colo

I dont even wanna watch it and I'm the one getting candy

[clear quartz]

i have no idea if i can get bigger plants, i think my plant harvest method is also wack

[paper sail]

When DK first unlocked and everyone was saying to use DK for Colo, I was confused and went searching for videos explaining it. Somebody out there wants that content.

[clear quartz]

no chemical unlocked yet and looks like a max of 5 tiers so far, but i feel like i should have acess to a 6th, but counting hard

[signal osprey]

If I dont get a single 72 hour candy in these runs I'm quitting this game and its the yes voters fault

[willow drum]

do you have this unlocked?

[twin token]

Every miniboss has a chance to drop every candy except Cosmic and event candies

Oh except baba yaga

Ok all the colo minibosses + doot

[barren otter]

i voted yes

[signal osprey]

This is sabotage

Get me to quit so I cant farm beans anymore

[barren otter]

i gotta make sure i get ahead of you on W1 statues somehow

[clear quartz]

guess 5 is right then

[signal osprey]

You're probably pretty close if not alreday ahead

I've been doing a lot of other stuff for awhile now

[signal osprey]

I havent done much serious bean farming since 14x DR was a good goal lol

[barren otter]

i go back to glass jail when i hit 250 feasty

[signal osprey]

Yeah your chopping and mining are ahead of mine

[barren otter]

im actually kinda close to 2k% on feasty vman

[paper sail]

[barren otter]

nice kachow

[paper sail]

Except I'm in w4 crystal jail now 😦

[signal osprey]

I just finished up bloodbones and had probably at least a green stack of feastys but it turns out the onys statue bonus doesnt work on deposit all

So I only got 2x on them instead of 7x

[barren otter]

i did that last week

[paper sail]

I've had no issues with deposit all not giving 7x (that I know of. I watched / tested several times)

[barren otter]

with 13mil statues

i was very pissed

[signal osprey]

I still got 263 feasty with that too

Imagine what it could have been lol

[barren otter]

275 surely

[paper sail]

Nice Doot

[barren otter]

[signal osprey]

Any time I see a doot I take pride in the fact that my shrines will be better

[paper sail]

🤔

[barren otter]

:)

[signal osprey]

Attack and DR will level up in a few days as well

[barren otter]

my BB is working hard on those shrines okay

[signal osprey]

So is half of my account

[paper sail]

I dare not try to do Shrine math

[signal osprey]

I wont either I honestly just kinda guessed

Surely it'll be soon

[barren otter]

toolbox > account tab

[paper sail]

https://idleontoolbox.com/account/general

[signal osprey]

Should be next to the statues

[paper sail]

Idk lol

I tried resizing my window, always visible for me

[signal osprey]

Yeah honestly not sure on that one

Pretty sure shrines have always been there for me

[paper sail]

Maybe give it a ctrl+f5?

[old coyote]

Whats most critical worship tower to upgrade?

[paper sail]

Poison

Maybe check on their Discord. Not sure what else

[dry hare]

Yo has anyone else noticed the portal for world 6 in 2w5

[hidden grove]

is choco plus 2 chip doublers DK at 6x good enough for statues or not

[clear quartz]

6x drop? oof

[hidden grove]

yeah ik

[signal osprey]

I mean it should be enough to start but I would farm some DR first. At 6x you definitely dont have full obols and DR cards done yet

Also crystal cards are important too

[peak spruce]

how do i farm dr obols?

[hidden grove]

whoops I forgot I have obols on my es

[old coyote]

is there a DR guide i could see?

[peak spruce]

dk on last w1 map?

[green eagle]

did all but 2 of those eclipses today. my SB is gonna get diabetes from eating all that candy

[hidden grove]

my card set

[signal osprey]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1141880730411094106

This should have everything as far as I'm aware

[green eagle]

you should be able to get poops to platinum fairly easily. maybe less than a day on ES with card drop snapshot with full DR

[hidden grove]

I was thinking about that

then buy a 5*

[hidden sphinx]

Has anyone heard if lava can/has given back a lost npc token?

[sonic rivet]

hey, i got bear unlocked from divinity, should i keep all my characters in there for now? I just wanted the lab mainframe always on, is there any benefit to keeping them in there?

[signal osprey]

I'm sure he can but I doubt he will. If lava helped every single person who ever lost an item he'd never have time to develop the game

[hidden sphinx]

That’s fair, would be nice if he had a policy for items that literally cannot come back, like npc tokens, I can understand not doing it for other items like treasure hunt (you forget to slab them before selling and that’s ok you) guess you can treat npc tokens like that too

Sucks that npc tokens are still sellable whereas trophies and chains aren’t

[old coyote]

my DK is really underpowered compared to my ES, is it still better for farming things like obols?

[signal osprey]

As long as you oneshot things damage doesnt matter

[old coyote]

wait what about multikill tier

[signal osprey]

That only applies to the base mob drops. Doesnt do anything for crystal farming

Your DK will farm the same amount of obols at 1B damage as he would at 1T damage

[old coyote]

even things like pop obols?

[signal osprey]

Pop is the one obol you want on ES because its not dropped by crystals

And yes for that you would want damage because ES needs damage to kill portal mobs