#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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After every offer
It resets or more like “rolls for new options” when you make any offering
There’s a chance for Reroll
So if you dont spend any, the options dont change
You either wanna get lucky with lower chance or use a 100% when offered
Cause it’s always better to rely less on rng
If you want to keep using 1% offering till you see a 50 or 100
The only one I know you need for stamps is the Mystery stone lol.
Or just spam big offers change
Meanwhile i never used 100% as i got all my gods when fishing for 100% doing 1-5%
Cool, this was the answer I was hopfing fore.
Also not cool since I wasted too many points at the 25% ones by now 😰
Its not really a waste
What divine you at
Expected cost wise it doesnt matter too much what you choose
Only got bear
Divinity is either rng or long wait
Your better off waiting if you don’t like the risk
100% is just more predictable and deals the least mental damage for most
I got the one after at 100% for 1600 or so points
Definitely this haha
Took me a while cause I have/had 6/10 characters leveling up
Would be so much better with doot but what can I do
Btw when you have doot
Does It Auto Unlock every divine for you so you can level up the blessings
feels bad hitting w5 finally and not able to play :<
Or do you still have to unlock one at a time
Oh, that doot
still have to unlock it from what i was told but u get the affects
I was wondering what you were going on about
And sorry, just saw the pinned post about divinity
Boys anyone know what to do. I made a purchase ingame but haven’t received it. Who do I contact
What did you purchase?
App store
Your car's extended warranty?
Oh for me on steam, it went into my wallet and didn't actually make the purchase. check your "wallet" on the appstore
not sure if it works similiar but for me that was my issue.
You purchased the App Store sheesh
The whole thing 
^
:<
@steep zealot Not sure was gonna say go here https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/800577865062154240
But if it was on the App Store I’m not sure if it was the games fault
can someone explain why my bubo is getting like x5 more dinvity xp per hour than anything else
i am a hoarder
div bubble/ exp% talent for specialized skills
It pains my OCD lol. So much space taken up .-.
well my es is way higher at everything so that's what i'm finding weird
Bro omd 😂 bubo doesn’t specialise in Divinity
so about my flies being in printer keep saying its maxed. are they not providing atoms?
leveling specialized exp talent gives exp no matter the mage specialization..
on my bubo
Lava doesn't code skills to be specific elite classes - all mages get bonus exp in divinity
Wait is this the es skill
from this talent in the mage tree
nah, mage talent
Nah wtf
well es has one that gives all players more exp
The whole time I thought that was class specific
and i have cards so idk why everyone else is getting 1
It's the same for everything. DK gets bonus fishing exp from it for example
Yeah Ik that one
Also double checking the specialised xp gain talent
It affects divinity gain?
my es
I tried before I think and I didn’t see any difference
which has 70 levels on my bubo and way more skills towards effiency
Wait
Someone please tell me
What skills increase dignity xp gain
Or is there none
Aside from es
es talent and that mage talent, none other
Ik that one increases
this is seriously going to bug me lmao
different style?
i mean i got here on w5, setup everyones cards/everything the exact same, and plopped them there xD
Not like it affects the xp gains, but technically BM is also specialized in sailing, and SB is also specialized in Breeding
I figured it out, i was missing a few talents. i got it up to 4 an hour 🙂
so i sped this up by x4 and my chance at x2 rewards is much higher. so realistically a couple hours i could be done vs 15 hours
my question is does 1 char need to be level 2 to unlock doots affect for ALL chars? or does each char need to be 2?
Latter
?
Everyone level 2
kk
If a character isnt level 2 div doot is turned off when you switch to that character
Latter = The question you asked the latest
so at least my es will be able to start farming while the others wait the 15 hours
to be specific, doot turns off completely when active on a character with div lv1
yep, i figured but i felt like double checking
Absolutely wrong
What if there’s a third option
watcha mean? and do you need to link gods if u have doot? watching a video on w5 but nothing explains "if u have doot" i get the ghist of what he does
Well that was quite a jump in sample size 😅
???
Dootless
Was candying zow stacks just before
Damn
Snake at least is not the worst option with 30% afk
Yes lucky me
Hope you hadt the lab connection

Looks like I have company
Ancient arrow is decent to get even though you wanted the other thing. Increases rare chest rate which is a net gain on sailing as a whole
Multiplicative or additive basically
Yeah I should be grateful
It will scale much better in the future
Honestly thank Gos
God
You can spend months hunting a single artifact later on so enjoy the gains while you can 😄
What does this mean in reference to wizards exactly? https://i.imgur.com/WtfZyao.png Is "all wizard towers" = "all tower types"? And is "All wizards get +2% damage bonus" = "wizard characters"?
こんにちは皆さん、今日はどうですか?
Wizards
где молоко?
But all they all wizards or just the first ones? xd
Nah those are towers
They all cast spells though
そうですね、私は日本人を何人か知っていますが、あなたはどうですか?
Why say "all wizard towers" if it means "wizard towers"
ayy i finally got eldritch lantern
the rest of the ones i need are garbage anyway lol
Wizard towers just means TD towers
why say all specialised skills if it mmeans "specialised skills"
that's just how words work
“All skills” (w1-w4 skill that lava was able to copy paste the generic skill exp table)
Why say "all equipment" if it means "equipment"
"all wizard towers" is arguably more confusing, as if there were multiple towers, multiple types of towers and multiple types of wizard towers
Why say "all green passive bonuses" if it means "green passive bonuses" (though ironically I think there's handful that don't work with this? lol)
Those examples would have to say something like "all hand equipment", which would make you wonder if it means weapons, rings, tools or all of them
“Wait until tomorrow” “that your shop resets” when he meant lava coded day
"all equipment" doesn't add a layer of ambiguousness - either something is an equipment or it isn't :"D
either something is a wizard tower or it isn't
Yeah, which is why I am confused because the first tower is an actual "wizard tower" imo
they're all wizard towers, towers with wizards in em 😄
every single one has a mage inside
Boulder roller probably has a catapult in there
could be a conjurer though
party starter just casts shots to get everyone drunk
they all got that wizard beard
He just rolle boulders
Kraken*
Wizards
So to conclude... +12 is for all towers and the dmg boost is for the character?
Max level of towers
Does the character include both elemental sorcerer and bubo?
Then 2% damage boost per tower level over 50
The damage boost is added to your wizards
As inz the TD guys
wait so no bubo?
ooooooohhhhhhhh so it isn't player dmg at all
interesting, I need to actually get that up then!
The entire buff revolves around the towers yeah
Do you agree that it should say "Also, all wizard towers get +% damage bonus" then :D
I mean kinda, it says the word "wizard" 5 times. I thankfully went to school so can understand context
(tower isn't included because the ui wouldn't fit the extra word)
I went to school as well but even school can't cure dumb :/
as an aside, I dunno if it does it for all but the extra tower levels really lower the cost of some towers
which makes stacking the buffs easier, and earlier
Yeah
Can basically get party starters to 10 for free
Frozones as well
I think I still need a bit more upgrades to get the w3 totem to 120
Maybe 2 levels for party, poison and elder
5 more for void would be really nice
I'm really.lazy with my TD lol
I did w5 once like 6 months ago
Really should fix that lmao
I was as well but those MSA upgrades are starting to look really nice
tried unlighting vail bonus ?
Yeah that's with it unlinked
good luck level other bubbles 
whats best in slot rings and neckless? the most expensive from dungeons?
have 50 gaming fertilizers to burn, should I use them trying to push my last couple T6 plants or just use them normally for more bits?
yes for rings, the afk stopwatches have a place too. the divine scarf (W5 boss task recipe) is the best necklace
thx time to accualy do those tasks then xD
And rex rings still win out for skilling
ah true, forgot those
You want the dungeon ones anyway for the hp/mp snap
its the emperor ring rigth all stats insted of dmg %?
yeye, all stats becomes more important the further into the game you get
there's a lot more sources of dmg% than allstats%
if you have 900% dmg% (so 1000% damage total) and gain 10%, that's actually only a 1% increase to your total dmg%
if you have 100% allstat so (200% total) and gain 10%, that's still a 5% increase overall
The issue is a lot more complex than this due to various buffs that scale from stat breakthroughs and there being different pools of damage%, but the tldr is allstat>dmg% in pretty much all instances
yha i got to about 2000 mill dmg now im realy starting to strugle to get much inc
Yeah your next big jumps will probably be alchemy/sailing and main stat scaling
From stuff like this
yha i havent even realy started that been trying to get the 4 main once for skill up to 300
Whats the best class for doing rifts?
Depends on the task
Really depends on the challenge
Wouldnt do a SB challenge with a ES 
A better example would be DK is terrible at the lava skull mission
As it clears the whole map at once, breaking your streak
ES, SB, DK is absolute necessary in rift at certain points
Bubo can help out on some, bb and vman usually stays off unless super chowing on bb
And BM is so useless it forgets to be mentioned
https://i.gyazo.com/f80685d1fbd9bee0e643212c49faed9a.png
26 fertilizers later its done 
I just got to w5 with dk what is the first thing I do
7 on altar, 1 pusher, mman skilling for rank 1's and BB cooking or chowing imo
okay thank you
Sailing you want to check like every 2 hours at the start right?
level the skills for gaming xp and bits though on a DK
with gaming do i wait until theyre like tier 4 to click for bits?
if you just got into W5 i wouldn't overlyt worry about plant tier, just pick them when you check back to get bits for upgrades
thanks
every tier gets significantly rarer to evolve than the last
Hey everyone,
Is it me or the progressing curve in gaming is really steep after unlocking the Gamepad ? I feel stuck
Also eldritch artifacts are really hard to get
Gaming is slow until snail
Yes
I see, thx
Are there things I can do except waitin for them artifacts to show up ? Gaming-wise
Unlock chem if you haven't, do chem cycles to try and farm bigger nugg/squirrel acorns
Yeah it's been one months I'm grinding them Chems, max bits I can gather is 3/4b (green)
Clearing random achievements is also gaming gains until then
Im stuck at gaming impossible to get snail and nugget stuck at 10k
I got snail with a 10k nugg, definitely possible
What's your time for growth cycles? I feel like I should just dump fertiliser as well
Hey, farming statues at sandy pots feels REALLY slow, is it just me or is it much slower than beans ?
well you cant compare across worlds
Well I just did brah
like you do w2 because you want w2 statues. You get 0 w2 statues from beans so there is no comparison there
Come on man
i agree w2 statues feel slower to farm
2.2
w4 is harder than w2
w5 is harder than w4
drop rates for new worlds get harder to combat increasing DR
so w1 will always be fastest to farm
And w3
yeah but most w3 statues come from mobs so there's no direct comparison at all
Like w1 was designed when dr was like at most 2x
Eg: Anvil statue from w2 is 1/30 drop from crystals
food statue is 1/20 from w1 crystals
Assuming same kill rate, w1 statues will be easier to find
the equivalent statue in w5 is 1/268 chance
We can reasonably expect similar to happen in w6
Im farming on w5 done 1/3 
is there yet another update
seems so
you might be in the damage range to be doing wurms instead of citringes now, would depend on your talent levels
Any tip for farming lvl BB? I think BB is bad class for farming
Yeah you summed it up
If you're desperate for levels for like, divine scarf, Crystal/active exp build on wurms, choco chip, leave em for a few days
425 is obtainable at a reasonable pace, 450 isn't worth the time imo
Ah ty, but i can get 8xx orbs on citringes ,i haven't tried it on wurm
can u get divinity exp while online? or offline only
if i go on that char does it reset the time towards an exp? like divinity for example
Pass on that, been way too long since I've looked into the tiny details
feels bad
Lava is pretty good about counting decimals tho
i just want to use my doot and start w5 lmao
time for a nap
nah it's only 15 minutes
Enjoy the doot, I'm not jealous or anything 
same
if i get 4 an hour i should get 1 in 15 minutes ye?
yeah
What is considered end game prints?
pretty sure theres leaderboards on IE
i'm confused though, the one that needs to be linked for affect, purrmep? if i don't have that god but i have doot.. do i just not get that or what
IE shut their leaderboards down once doot released as it's no longer possible to compare two accounts fairly
You'll still need to work towards that one unfortunately
i'm gonna be just sucks
guys what are this nuggets?
Ive just bought the shovel but didnt understand.
is that a multiplier that stays for ever?
ahh my mistake, I never checked them so I didn't know that, thanks
It's not the end of the world, the minor bonus of each god scales with div level so you'll want to level guys up anyway
Highest nugg = permanent bit multiplier
damn so that's huge af
@tacit tulip oh no doubt
It's the best and worst thing about gaming
why would be worst?
is there like any w5 gem items that would be like.. "majorly helpful" and worth getting
gotcha. how much do you have?
I got 10k about a month after w5 came out, and finally upgraded to 15k last month
sailing chest slots and gaming slots are nice
so about 7 months without an improved nugg
I'm sure theres a tier list somewhere though
ah great, I can also get 8xx orbs on wurm tks @tacit tulip 
what 10k of multiplier
damn I thought I got luck by getting 20x on first try lol
shovel rolls a number 1 to about 1500 then multiplies it by your luck% on the shovel. So in my screenshot here, my max nugget possible is about 412k
I finally got a big nugg a couple weeks back
The shovel rolls are heavily skewed towards low numbers, rolling big is akin to winning the lottery
I'd say anything 100k+ is "set for life" until we get the next gaming update. Doubling your nugg is the same as a single snail level so while nice, not the end of the world
Making me look bad
😢
the worst part is that I click the shovel and go on with gaming so much since its always low rolls anyways, I didn't see it when it rolled, so I missed that sweet sweet dopamine hit
once I realized my t1 plants were a lot higher I saw what happened
Damn
Vman for XP, BM for Critters
I placed Vman's traps on him, then all the others on BM
but my guys levels were high enough to equip good traps already so do what your chars need
I personally place one EXP trap using Vman on everyone (to give everyone some nice exp) then hunter to place all the remaining traps for shiny/critters
thats a good idea actually
this is how my trap setup looked, lazy mans trapping
If I change it it'll be to focus one critter for vials
the xp difference between the guy on blobs vs frogs negligible?
yeah, almost all the exp comes from the single blob exp trap
you'll need 2 of the good traps at least
the amount of slots available is absed on the trap equipped
so you have 1 on the trapper, 1 on the player you're placing
don't forget to make use of the vman trapping talent
eventually I'll stop being lazy and make the w5 traps
it'd take me like, 5 mins
ok convined myself, this feels goooood
according to wiki one of the gods gives you 200% damage yeah? why did it only go up like nothing
nothing even went up def/acc either..
yeah that's fine. exp/efficiency is determined at trap set, not collect
that's the max possible value it can give you. This is the thing I mentioned that scales with divinity level
color changed but nothing is going up either
i see.. so doot is still useless at the start of w5 lol
You still get the full sized "link bonus"
it's the minor bonus that you need to scale
You are printing 6x the Amount. It won't change the Displayed amount
I assume I'm missing a detail of how trapping exp works. Why does it matter who sets the traps?
gotcha. my damage / def / acc didn't really go up though that's why i'm confused
i'm getting x2 portal kills though
lets goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
EXP is set at the point you place the trap. Vman has two skills that massively increase his EXP gains in skills. So you place the trap on another character using Vman, they get the EXP he would get
Ahhh, of course. Thank you.
Judging by these Prints you either rushed to W5 or haven't sampled in 2 Years
You should probably increase everything in W1-4 now that you get bonuses of all Gods
i rushed and yeah that's the plan. catching everyone up to w5
the colour doesn't show you the result, so it'll be 6x higher than displayed
Other chat seems to be a bit to much chatting to noticing my question so hopefully someone here can help me :
If i use Gen Splices to level Up an already unlocked Pet, does it make it stronger or it is just wasted Gen, so I should only use on Pets I try to get new ones ?
so do i get these full affects? because i do not see a 200% damage increase, acc or def
kinda expected to explode damage/def/acc at w5 with doot
Those scale with your Divinity level. In the beginning you are getting maybe 20% acc/def, 5 levels etc
I am not sure when those are maxed. But these take a long time
Blessings u can increase via Money, Sailing Gold, Bits, Atoms
And u need to unlock the God to actually increase them
For example this is lvl 82 divinity
how do I check that?
Unlock the God
ah okay
Maybe IE or IT has something you could check out
well I unlocked one lmao
200% damage from nobisect is additive with existing buffs so its more like 2-3% increase in relative to your current state
yeah it's 2.2% acc and 2.2% def lmao
And if your div level is low, the face value is low
Your primary gains from doot come from opening up your options once you hit w5.
Upon level 2 div you get:
+30% afk gains on all characters
All characters are in lab, so more nodes active
2x kills for all mobs
3x printing for all characters
AFK gains give you progress in 6 skills ((Refinery, 3D Printer, Cooking, Pet Breeding, Sailing, or Gaming)
+40% skill ecp
The AFK gains, 3x printing, and 3d printer progress are really what set doot apart: Your prints will be higher, produce more, and get more time added to them
This makes levelling everything up way quicker (alchemy) which is what causes your stats to explode
x2 portal and stuff is cool and lab stuff though
yeah no doubt which is huge i'm not complaining about all that i just thought i'd get 200% damage/acc/def and go burrr off the bat while my others caught up but it's no biggie. can't complain
So even with div level 150 and using big p, the numbers may say 200% but its not a pure multiplicative so its still going to suck
yeah things are vague and lack of info on doot so i was just confused still I suppose
the goat buff is really strong once Div levels up too, as you end up with +50% afk on everyone
200% added to your existing 50000% just makes it to 50200% damage boost
whats the hard cap for road kill? i ccant find the chart
As an aside, even though you have doot you'll want to spend some time manually in lab, to level up your lab LVL for the benefits that gives
at this stage that can wait a while tho
yeah plan is to get another char out, put everyone in the lab once they hit level 2 and catch a char up one at a time
idleon wiki alchemy page has numbers you can put into to see basically cap of each
Your bubos can help level up others with their lab xp sharing skill too
Like just put in something like 9999999 and you can easily see the hard cap, and enter something like 500-1500 to see like the realistic cap
aight thanks
does putting them in the lab get the offering things too or just exp
it treats fully like being on altar
Just that the altar’s prediction cant count those done from lab
For sure
doot just kinda threw me off on exactly what it did
wait why is my printer bugged when i put the rabbit + arctic on my ES it doesnt give me 6x prints
this is only 3x prints right?
It'll work the game is just sometimes weird about displaying it
When you quit your DK farming mid way of updating the printer bonus, it sometimes locks the visual colors of text
how to fix my account on IT? cuz i just uploaded it first time yesterday but its show ing my printing data that is far from what i have in the past month or so
Just go back DK with printer quick ref open, and wait till it flicks back
And its just visual
You still getting full bonus
Like you will notice the color changes every time DK makes a kill with a orb as the printer bonus changes and games tries to be like “welp i gotta reapply the bonus”
I got all 10 farming tremor Wurms and realized I still have breeding in W4 at only level 56. I have several skills to unlock still, and many pets. How am I getting xp so slow for this old skill? Is there a guide? I must be doing it wrong.
W4 skills are a headache and I have no idea how to progress them
I feel like for pets it’s just a matter of time
And cooking relies on pets
I’ve got cooking “done” most everything 30+. Lab level is 122 on my LOWEST guy. Yet breeding…? Arena is done. Spices are unlocked. But missing many pets and skills
Ofc you know that
Rly annoying rng and u need lots of splicing to max next pet chance
And I don’t know anyone who’s maxed splicing ask in #endgame-gen-chat
Hmm no access to that channel. Which is it?
U gotta unlock it
I. Read me
I used to have access to that. Peanut was marked. Did it again. Still no access. Odd
it increases the power level of the pets that you hatch. it's decent for the pets that you'll use to generate spices much later. also reduces the chance for shiney's. although it's a better use to unlock more pets.
I’m pretty sure u can’t use latter for more than 2 options
Nothing big just being petty 😊
id:customize. Look if you can activate the channel in there
Probably affects shiny chance no idea
"Browse Channels" near the top of the screen
Reloading the app brought it back. Thanks!
All good ^^
What stats i should look in to Captains? Or is that just whatever?
speed / loot or speed/speed later on loot/loot when you have enough speed to get to the later islands without speed on captains
Can’t wait for 11th character to come out to make all this pain redundant
I’m pretty sure 10b is the minimum and takes like 15 mins
Idk how long It Will take to get trillion damage
10b is minimum and takes 30mins - 1 hour
You will never get 1t damage on Voidwalker
Lmao
i was so low with vman... came back a few weeks later and blew him out the water
Unless the class upgrade to it comes out
Dang
think i was around 80m
I did with 20b.
Aren’t the highest endgame players only max 400b
lmao
yeah can def do with less
Wait nvm it might’ve been like 9t idk
It's very obtainable these days
Rip
Quick slap bubble is OP
for vman only ? or for all classes
My bad I completely erased the memory I guess
Nah all classes 1t is easy
I mean for vman
10t vman has been done by multiple people
So I did misremember the numbers mb
I wish that damage in voidwalker
Makes sense idk why I thought it’s not
For everyone
Atm my strongest character is ES
slacking on sb
!zow
It's a talent in the third tab for barbarians, which increases their damage by 2-6% for every 100k kills on unique mobs they have
Yep, weak with sb
my sb has 6x the damage of other characters :/
high movespeed comes from beans farming in w1 to increase food effect
Its always good and use speed pots
onyx and speed pots
How much dmg does quick slap give u guys
It scales quadratically so it gets slightly better every time you level it
882%
I thought it was sqrt
a more average bubble level, you can see how much it jumps
Well i only have that on like level 15
Idk 😭
My alchemy hasn’t developed and I can’t hourly click
it scales pretty decent although I'm pumping it because I wanna hit 10t 
I can see now why you mmight have thought that 😄
Are those 9 levels really that different?
nah I'll have more movespeed
Feasty statues give food effect and drop from W1 crystals
I severely misread and understood
crystal mobs, beans is best map for it. Stack crystal chance and Dr using DK 🙂
Also it’s way stronger on Voidwalker cause the food talent of mman
And how to increase movement speed
DK is the best crystal farmer and bored beans is his best map
Had to make it obv cause some other guy was confused about it
The early game struggle is real
we're all noobs
Honestly yeah
At all levels honestly
It would take months to get everything decently levelled
alchemy is always difficult until you can mass produce mats with printer
And you need damage
And it would take months to be able to hourly click others like talent 1 and 2
Bubble*
then you get every bubble to 1b per click and you print your hourly clicks..
its easier than you think to start hourly clicking
🤣
i started playing 4 months ago tomorrow
you must have doot
makes sense
Just wondering but why is dk better than es for crystal/rare drop tables
Do wormhole mobs not have those drops or spawn crystal mobs?
Bubo: Total number of kills -> Total number of cystal mobs -> Money gain, also alchemy
ES: Portal kills (do not spawn crystals, though do spawn more mobs), buff only applies to mobs -> Mob drops
DK: Orb multiplier (so 100 is 2x drop rate) -> Crystals drop loads -> Crystal drops, also construction
i've been playing since july 22 and you're slightly ahead of me in aclhemy
ES simply cannot spawn wormhole crystals
doot is a gap
Tysm
Just get lucky 
ES has generally better dr mechanic, but it can only apply to mobs since the nonus is applied only on wormhole mobs
DK has a weaker dr mechanic (for now) but applies to anything on screen
As long DK is using orb, he is always better than ES in terms of crystals
Only way he is worse is DK only got like 1 lv in the orb talent
I have 150 or something in orb but not enough talents for the other stuff so i only get like 100 orb kills every 2mins or something
My es kills a lot more along with a lot more mobs
you have to actively avoid lot of things to make DK weak
Both at like lvl 120-130 so not ready for crystal farming yet
just don't abuse your DK long term. ES is useful but more of a trap for progression than you think
Like he is using wood spears or something
The void scythe
Also i dont have chocolate chip and some other crystal chance stuff
Like crystal chance wise ES doesnt have much that makes his chances better
So es gets a lot more crystals since it kills more
library building levels
It's libraryz the building
portal mobs cannot be crystals
Because it's construction mastery
They spawn more normal mobs
More normal mobs = more crystals
My dk kills like 100 normal mobs every 2mins
game doesnt make it very clear between the two
DK not being able to one shot is more of you neglecting your other classes than DK issue
My es kills like 1k every min
It does 1 shot
Its just not good rn
Talent cooldowns take too long
you're also using this right?
Yes
it also respawns mobs
My SB does 25B damage and gets 800k gmush kills an hour. My Vman does 5B but gets 1.7M kills an hour. Same cards and equipment. Why such a huge difference? Would have thought SB gets more.
If DK sucks at crystals, your ES also sucks at it too
es portal dr also doesn't effect crystals
lol
My es is way better at that lvl
DK goes online with the least lv investment
its not good rn so make it good or else it will never be good
mob respawn = big , could be gods as well
Only way is to lvl it up
“My ES getting more crystals” is likely just an illusion
if youre farming crystals on ES, youre wasting your time
ok
movespeed/atk speed also has an impact on afk gains, up to a point
then keep doing it
lmao
Im trying to farm pop obols

idk why we trying to help this guy
And i get a lot of crystals while doing that
pop is not from crystals
you're just trolling yourself at this point
But u also get crystals while doing it
he knows everything, he should be helping us tbh
ok guys we all farm crystals on ES now
Its just more of an impression
It's fine to farm pops on ES, but you're definitely not getting good crystal gains with that setup
Im not lvl 300+ so dk isnt good for me rn
As i said, DK doesnt need much levels to reach peak
Then whats its peak
level =/= char power
He is the least demanding class to get full active potential
Ah yeah vman is nobisect and SB is Arctis. Respawn is only 6% better on an though.
level 300+ also takes relatively no time
just let him be, people will start to think we're bullying
you might be using fibers of absence prayer, which eats your AFK kills
im about to actual start bulying 
But whats its peak then
You basically want 1 point in respawn, then as high as you can in statue/orb
and that's it
My dk attack cooldowns take too long
The shockwave skill is nice too
most clear from dk comes from shockwave and statues
Forgot about that one. Not equipped though.
to be fair nobisect will be most of it, it doubles your afk kills
My statue lasts like 20s and the cooldown is like 40 or something i forgot
Kills take so long compared to es
yeah but most the es kills are useless for crystals
Thats only if u get more on dk
Yes that makes a big difference. Need him in lab though. And since no doot…. Still, cut vman kills in half and they are at about the same place. surprised 5x damage isn’t that big a difference on kills.
got vman yet? hes got a skill that boosts the duration of DK statue skill
every 2x damage will be one tier of multikill up, so on something like gmush where you're already on 30+ tiers, a single tier makes very little difference
Nope
zoomzoom
vman quest
alr
uhh, what lvl is div vman talents are very big
maybe I shouldve asked long time ago
getting one guy off divinity isnt going to hurt you
mostly ~20
not for the one pushing
yeah i'd take him off and do vman quest
vman is already doing vman quest while farming pop
just wondering if the other character should get off div for his quest
what part of quest i don't remember what the req is
w1 to w3 death note 1m
maybe candy with your bb he needs 1m kills anyway
Isn’t it 2m?
yea should candy it
It is
let me see if I got enough candy
this doesnt looks good
oh wait actually not that bad
How do i get a bigger gold nugget thing in gaming
pray
Pray
hourly click nugget
Pray
RNGesus
what does sprinkler do ? if making plants grow back is all it does sure. but if it does more than that, does it finish a growth cycle bsaically? if there are plants and i use sprinkler it grows them?
Ive been stuck at 166x for a while
spend bits on the shovel
ive been stuck on 144k for a while aswell
well you likely havent digged up nearly as much nuggets as me 🙂
Just new plants
it grows new plants only
We i just git 324 but there was also gold coming out the shovel so idk
Oh
Sprinkler is particularly useful when dealing with cactus and Chem plants, as these can be used to grow the other plants
finally
IT says 100,100000001
27 should be good
i heard rumors that it dosent matter if i deposit a whole stack of statues at once or lvl by lvl, is it true?
or do i have to go lvl by lvl to get alch bubble
That apparently was fixed, deposit all is bugged though
got it, thanks
also are we 100% on that? haha
as i dont wanto lose out on 8 mill statues
Confirmed by Rash
sweet
Deposit all specifically doesn't count onyx so you only get X2 instead of x7
is there a 3rd food for chopping ?
2 speed + golden grilled cheese
aight thanks
oh god you know what. I've not sampled since starting bean farming
...
I know it caps at 62 but I was not at the cap before
those gainz incoming 😛
What 
How fucked am i
uh, have you been depositing all?
Every statue since onyx release
If so, approx71% fucked
same, I onyx'ed everything and then got vial to 100% and started hitting deposit all
...including the crit dmg ones?
No I did those properly at least
although I haven't done the quest on other characters yet
well, at least not permanently fucked
Depositing 500m statues at one is fine, but yeah deposit all ignores onyx exp bonus
surely lava will fix that right.. and not leave it broken for years..
a week of deposit all is about 2 days of manual deposit
Only missing out on 3.5x the statues you deposited barely even worth it 
Mman hands say hi
Do those +30% kills for a specific world help with sampling?
just to make sure, i now got all statues onyxed, i got snakeskin at 100% and i got the bubble at 21.1%. is there anything more i should do?
Sure am I glad I found that out the day after my 1b bloodbones on DK finished
2 pts per statue instead of 7 
Highest feasty per hour in the game and I divided mine by 3.5x 
Those are considered as “kill per kill” like lab and nobisect, which does not affect drops/samples
A few questions:
- I have had an artifact dryspell now for a month. Do higher level chests have higher chances for artifacts? Or is the difference negligible? (ie. Should I enable unending loot Search?)
- Is 110 points a day for 4 characters a lot for sigil unlocking? Feels super low, and I have bought some of the store sigil unlocks too.
Mate go for a walk, you need a few mins away from idleon I think
Lurk more

Yeah, don't use unending if you want artifacts. Quantity>quality
yes, sigils suck
There arent many sigil speed sources so its slow as designed
Sigil is slow yes
Even with full gem shop upgrades it takes like 2 years to reach a point of “im mostly done, but not completely”
ok, good. I'm on the last 5 sigils for unlocking, and I've almost made the top row gold (Made the sigil increase on row 2 gold already too)
Thanks all, I knew I was on the right track, for now lol
Which is like early mid progress of sigil i guess
from 142 to 215 in 1 deposit, lol
Whatever do you mean
its more efficient to do multiple smaller deposits fyi
i was just told it dosent matter
Confirmed fixed
Aye, fixed 🙂
everyone sucks because thigns get changed or fixed or broken every update
Pretty sure I deposited a green stack of feastys with deposit all
Or at least pretty close
or show mercy and spare me the red x because I'm currently 51 hours into my 72 hour shift
Jokes on you for believing in spaghetti
If it makes you feel better mine is only 244 and I have maybe depsited 400k feasty since onyx
In hindsight I should have realized something was wrong
I remember thinking that my gains seemed kinda low but I didnt bother actually doing math and just wrote it off as statue cost getting high
Guess I gotta go do bloodbones to 2b now 
I've finally unlocked the atom building. Which elements should I focus on first? And should I work on earlier worlds first, like getting alchemy vials to 13, before I start focusing on atoms?
I heard it's recommended to beat W5 with Bubo or DK? Could someone explain it?
better pushers than es bc wormhole mobs dont count towards portal
They're the two strongest endgame classes so getting a headstart on them is advised
DK is probably the easiest to push actively, too
small gainz
The first step with the collider is to get 1 point in most of the upgrades as a lot of them have a good upfront bonus attached to them
My Bubo is pushing thru w5 it's in the citrus orange map rn, still not enough mats to make the green staff yet thou
Also currently only own troll boots and pants
+1 slot + 12 wis gloves 
Ok, thanks!
Just make a better class swap token that lets us make him a beginner
Get our kruk gloves and then swap him back
That would probably result in bubo not being able to use gloves at all
so if you're sure 
lava confirmed bubo hater
Yeah the spear got nerfed for a reason
Lets not flaunt our bubo gloves in lavas face
spear got nerfed for more than just bubo though
It got nerfed because lava wants classes to use the weapons he intended for them
that no problem, bubo gloves
Will just never unequip them lmao
make them intended
true
😦
Saw a bubo with w5 gloves on the other day, must have equipped them before becoming a mage
you want bubo to do what to your knuck?
Brb making a new account for knuck bubo
That's the weirdest set I've ever seen
New account every world release to make the new gloves
Worth it
doesnt hotair have a beginner still
Tbf someone will absolutely make a bubo with gloves once slot 11 comes out
at least someone talked about doing kruk with a begginer
obviously bubo on gloves is designed. Just look at the purple weapon bubble
Yes
honestly that person might be me
No, took a class to get 
Ikr 😭 I'm just waiting for the day when the wands are faster than gloves
Use to be a perma
I wish I saw this before I just crafted the green staff but oh well
What's stinger?
Cause if its a tier 5 anvil thing I don't have it yet
the barbed wire gloves on tab1 anvil
^ you use it to force bubo to spread aura/poison by walking up to mobs
its fine to have staff still for afk purposes (not very good fighting, but for sampling)
Oh well I am mostly doing afk but I'll probably make some stingers
there's the odd case where havint staff isn't terrible too, like if your damage is really bad that using gloves would be a detriment
but that that point you stop pushing w5
Just realised if you do this you can't weapon scroll the gloves for wis lmao
might still be a downgrade to stinger
can roll them on a dif mage?
Ah right, I'm.being dumb
Should I be using stingers now, or keep staff?
you probably shouldnt even be pushing
you need to backtrack
Well uhm this is my Bubo rn
its time to beef up the previous worlds skills and such to get better dmg, pushing aint gonna help a whole lot
Ugh alright
I gotta do lab I guess
I haven't reached level 75 yet anyways
Get that last chip slot
damn
lab/div, cooking, alchemy, sailing, stamps will help a lot
Hardest weaoin to craft ingame
Candy is made to be used
An hour candy is the same as doing it afk for an hour
You either get the gains now, or later
unused candy is same as not getting them
that is true
An hour now is less then an hour after 2 months of other gains
Hey !Just unlocked the colossal food pouch and I was wondering if I should put it on eveyone or keep someone with a lower one in case it has a use (I'm refering to the forge card farming where it scales on getting a stack of bars from it to get the card, so having the smallest bag is the best)
By fastforwarding 1000 hrs, you get to work on other non-candy able things 1000hrs earlier than others who didnt candy
But if you use a week's worth of candy, those gains will come a week sooner, meaning you'll get more gains
ye I spent like 600hrs of candy for me vman quest
slam it on all chars, no problem like that for food 👍
It's counterintuitive but using candy really is the best thing you can do with it
0 candies left is a really good thing unless you wasted it on killing something on 1% afk gain
Yeah it's definitely possible to waste it on something
rip green stacks then ! See ya tomorrow and thanks 😄 !
just use all candy on shrooms
I mean its satisfying and it also boosted my pet by a lot
farming 2800 hampters is a mid-term w5 goal.
I'll probably dump my candy once fractal.is out to get that progressed
Is it needed? No
I am most likely stuck farming hampters for the next like... 3 months ...
Gonna do it anyway
Hum I only need 50 golden hampters per bag I think it's not the ressources ones
im going to ignore fractal until i got nothin better to do
I should probabbly at least get w5 dem skulls before I commit tbh ...
My other option is to dump in n gmush till like 100b
much wurf
Which is valid still
so forever?
fractal is my world 9
Forever is good!
watch the 2 new bonuses be so powerful everyone NEEDS to do fractal 
for the small price of 60k hrs 
the hell is fractal ?
for 40k/60k hours... it better be game changing tbh
the candy island ?
its in the island expeditions
ah... ye I only have the 2 worst ones so far, crystal and event
master of nothing would be sick but like...
Please get trash next
ye... I fucked up
Stop hurting yourself like this
Is event fixed?
as in ?
I have 4 islands now I think,
The event one
ye but what was the problem before ?
I've avoided unlocking it for the time being
Only one event. No more after that
Alright my Bubo is in lab rn what should my chopping, alchemy and lab levels be b4 I continue pushing
ah still the same
Sadness
yes, very
Around 50 if possible imo
the crystal at least gives some candy
All of them are above 50
That's only if you don't accidentally leave the map since you never knew they would despawn
Wish I had taken crystal before rando 
100 then! 😛
Alrighty
oh right. well even less a reason to not make 10 colossal.
first time I unlocked it I accidently went in with skilling preset and I assumed they would despawn if I left so I just autod for like... 3 h
Wow THREE HOURS
It takes me 5 minutes tops
without dmg it doesnt XD
I mean I left it on auto and came back after like 3h, probably took a bit less
what stats help with increasing statues per hour for mobs with statue on the main drop table?
just DR?
assuming you are killing and respawning mobs at maximum efficiency, it's just DR and whatever special loot mechanics you can manipulate (dk orb)
Guessing the context is acc statue or the world 3 ones
that's pretty standard
You can argue damage also helps with ES as you'll kill more, but don't sacrifice DR for it
everything comes back to hourly clicks >D
am i gonna get like 4 more % dr out of this in the next 2k levels?
midas worth on es to farm statues?
For the full 4% its more like 6k levels
oh I finally did rift 41... 1/3 at least ...
we are gonna need some kind of lab buff where your bubo sits in a lab amalgamate and generates hourly clicks or something. i'm hourly clicking just to be done hourly clicking one day
Thats the fun part. We're never done 
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The voices tell you to CC forever to fuel the click machine
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200 cap and then skys the limit on rate?
Thats what I have on my liquid 1
WTF WARRIOR WITH WAND FOR W5 PUSHING???????????????
i can't commit to the active every hour bit, so i'm never gonna disconnect from the lab bonus for x5 cap
2 and 3 I have at 300 cap 
🙂 You're hilarious
And traumatized.
🙃
Surely one day this liquid will be useful
how's your 4th liquid tho
Sadly we cant decant it yet
lava pls
Why not 4th liquid? Am I right?
We also need a liquid shop
An expanded liquid shop
2nd liquid bubbles take salts, critters, souls, and OTHER LIQUIDS
3d print salts

im pushing cauldron right now too, but im starting to think it may be better to wait for sigil to keep going
We kinda can 3D print salts at this point
i'm still trying to level green salts up
Salt ranks start getting pretty fast
to match the rest of my levels
Pog to @south gull
and i can't forge void bars fast enough to keep up with void under any circumstances
i should probably take an hour and 2 minute claim but i would just rather stick a fork in a socket
Huh? That's 
Sigil takes forever though 
Better than my level 4 skinny o cal...
Skill issue
Now shush and be happy
mkay
Nah, it's more like haven't played the game for real for 3 months
Understandable
You sound asleep
W6 bubbles can be done in just 1 or 2 cc's
can#'t ever afford to stop doing sigils just in case rift 51 is sigil mastery
why would you even say this
Can just swap from sigils to cauldrons for an hour and then swap back
ban him
lvl 4 sigils when
UI looks SO good
I ruin peoples day a lot - have I told you about the "world 6" sigil just being +1 sigil max level?
well i like to dive into mechanics without actually studying them, so it'll get done real quick when i do it then i'll be like "Hrmmmmmmmmmmmm w7 bubbles too?"
That would unironically be nice to have though
Heheh. I ruin them alot more
make it +2 and we have a deal
I'd rather go back and push good sigils to rank 3 than push lab and div exp to rank 2
