lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[bold quiver]

breeding u benefit insanely from it '.'

but cooking there is no reason for that horrible scaling

[calm cliff]

how you look at this

[signal osprey]

Thats on IE

[calm cliff]

what tab sry

dont use it offen

[lyric sequoia]

Or IT, both have them

[signal osprey]

W4 > rift > skill mastery

[opaque sun]

Breeding is probably the skill that is most dependent on each level

[calm cliff]

ah ic

[bold quiver]

walk to rift and check

[calm cliff]

true

[bold quiver]

u have to walk otherwise it doesnt work

[calm cliff]

yea i need to lvl cooking on other guys lol

[lyric sequoia]

Speaking of walking, I'm kinda annoyed with myself that i didn't use the sneaky way to do the "run to efaunt" achievement now that I am soft locked out of it

[calm cliff]

i did it by accident

[opaque sun]

need to wait for 11th character

[lyric sequoia]

I'd not be that surprised if a totally fresh level 1 character would have >175% MS tbh

[opaque sun]

Without statue golden, it should be fine

[bleak gust]

at what point does rift become decently easy

[lyric sequoia]

You're assuming that obsidian statue doesn't auto unlock gold though for new characters

[opaque sun]

Wave 1 rift and wave 51 rift is like different tiers in serval levels so hard to say

[signal osprey]

Yeah my movespeed statue gives over 100% on its own. That achievement is just not doable anymore lol

Lava will have to add a way to intentionally slow your character down by a lot

[opaque sun]

Without buying “upgrades” onyx should be fine

[calm cliff]

chain ball shoes

would be nice

[opaque sun]

And worst case, you can actually turn onyx back to gold

[bleak gust]

for the first bonus

[opaque sun]

Give him gold chisel and it loses onyx

[fallow aurora]

my strongest run yet 💪

[lyric sequoia]

The requirement of having under a certain MS is dumb anyway

[opaque sun]

If you can reach rift, first wave should be easy

Like just try it before worrying

Its not like a limited number of tries thing

Probably lava oversight, but not sure

If you revert it to onyx 9 times and spend all onyx chisels, you can brick your statues technically

[lyric sequoia]

Just don't give him the gold chisel then, ezpz

[glass quail]

will souped up tubes gem shop upgrade still apply to characters if they are not physically in lab but are active there with arctis divine?

[lyric sequoia]

Arctis doesn't give you exp, so it doesn't matter?

[glass quail]

but it gives line width

i mean the gem shop upgrade

[lyric sequoia]

Oh god knows, line width between characters quickly loses meaning though

[fallow aurora]

when my chars were at level 30 lab level, line width was useless

[glass quail]

i have 2 souped up tubes upgrades now, just wondering if it's worth getting more

[lyric sequoia]

By the time a character has unlocked all the chip slots they'll have more than enough to connect whoever you want

[bright vine]

I’m about to reach rift 31. Most characters are 500m-1b power and everyone mega crits basically all the time. Should I push to 36 or maybe even 41?

Is it possible?

[opaque sun]

If you can do the objective do it

If you cant, then dont

Its, quite simple as each checkpoint in rift is well worth it

[lyric sequoia]

It's very easy to figure out whether you can do rift or not tbh, there's no need to ask discord

[bright vine]

Well I want to ask

I see suggestions of 100b damage for 46

[lyric sequoia]

Ok sure - no you can't do it, you should ignore rift for the next 3 years

[bright vine]

You must be great at parties. Ah

[lyric sequoia]

Or, you just try an objective and see if you can do it, and give up if you can't as Topbird said. Easy really

Every objective that isn't afk kills is strictly a DPS check so it's reallly not that mysterious

[vale wadi]

didnt get the recipes. is there sth you need to do? isnt in inv or at anvil

[glass quail]

i think they are dropped by mobs

[lyric sequoia]

Cloudsave

[calm cliff]

thats for magma

[opaque sun]

The kattle gear recipe? Should just appear

[glass quail]

i should get out, i know nothing about w5

[calm cliff]

lol its just about learning

wont learn without a few misssteps

[vale wadi]

logged out and in did help:D

[lyric sequoia]

When in doubt: Cloudsave

[rustic garnet]

Is there any guides or tips for the new boss?

[opaque sun]

rough guide is buff/misc on early guys and attack on the last few

[balmy thorn]

If i get Doot from companions, if i link to Harriep will that bonus apply 2x?

[opaque sun]

Once you get doot, linking does nothing except for purrmep that requires someone to link to activate the minor link effect

[balmy thorn]

Thank you

[solemn rampart]

(ahem) What's the best Endothelium dungeon trait? Seems to me that it's just the second one because it doesn't have a downside.

[dreamy rapids]

Third

[opaque sun]

id just go with more rng item

[solemn rampart]

Is third that good? I rely a lot on using talens.

[dreamy rapids]

DK doesn't need to use talents

[opaque sun]

Like wars doesnt really care much

[dreamy rapids]

And getting purple right away will allow you to get Genesis which synegies well with the trait

[solemn rampart]

Since I'm here. Might as well ask about other traits. How does this look?

[fallow aurora]

people actually get purple rng items aside from coin flip?

[dreamy rapids]

Coin Flip is Steam exclusive

[fallow aurora]

............

max imbued shockwaves on DK btw since u can't use talents

[solemn rampart]

Oh yeah, I guess that's why it's good.

[feral whale]

someone can send here good obol set ups for mid-end/end game?

[solemn rampart]

I assume my trait loadout is fine since I'm getting no comments about it?

[bright idol]

is there any worth gemshop w5 items

[dreamy rapids]

Yes it's fine

[bold quiver]

YES

[bold quiver]

All of them are worth. the divinity exp + points, the sailing chests, the sprinkler reset, the extra sprouts. But none of them are essential or game changer like the other worlds stuff so if u dont have a bunch of gems u can skip

The most important for faster progression are the divinity points/exp

[calm cliff]

really??

id say sprinkler is up there no?

[bold quiver]

yeah sprinkler is nice to get once u reach w5, but its not something amazing since bits suck and are easy to snowball

they are all good but nothing game changer like the royal kitchen, 3d print, anvil, 1st liquid cauldron u know

[calm cliff]

true

[granite grove]

sprinker okay early, but you will easily reach a point where you dont wanna play much gaming even way before unlocking snail

or let alone finding much value on sprinklers

[calm cliff]

im stuck at a point where getting snail is my next thing but also way out of reach ;-;

only getting green in the thousands

still stuck with a 4k nug

and i cant seem to get the last two plants for the life of me

[bold quiver]

yeah thats basicaly the deal with sprinkler + extra sprouts. They seem very good but gaming can be completed to easily that i'd recommend that only if u have nothing else to spend gems on

[dreamy rapids]

My snail just got reset from 12 to 5

Fuck Gaming

Fuck W5 in general

[untold saffron]

why didn't you have it atom'd to 10

[lyric sequoia]

Gotta get dat atom rank up

[dreamy rapids]

Cause I am poor on atoms

[untold saffron]

then it was dumb to upgrade the snail

[dreamy rapids]

I waste it all on alchemy

[feral whale]

nah w5 is good i hate how slow is w4

[lyric sequoia]

Save up letters until you can minizmise the risk innit

[dreamy rapids]

W5 is RNG hell W4 is P2W hell

[stiff kayak]

are the stamps cheap?

[untold saffron]

these worlds have to be slow so you don't run out of things to work on honestly

[bold quiver]

nah

W4 is only hard if u try to push portals active ;[

if u abuse the afk system u can get to w5 with 300k 400k dmg easily (afk claims)

[bold quiver]

no, very expensive

[daring ravine]

brave hi
i got vman

[bold quiver]

u can check price on wiki

[stiff kayak]

k

[bold quiver]

gzzzzzzzzzzzzz huge upgrade snow

[daring ravine]

3% cooking speed 🔥

[stiff kayak]

name of the stamps?

[dreamy rapids]

I think I'll save for the new bribes

[bold quiver]

no idea, check on islands section

[stiff kayak]

ok

[bold quiver]

insane speed

[daring ravine]

I am ashamed to say that my first speedrun is 10 portals

[sick sentinel]

thats how most people start out

[untold saffron]

your first speedrun will always be lower

[bold quiver]

thats decent, since u have only 3% cooking speed it means u "rushed" vman

so its cool

vman is more late game oriented (or mid game)

[daring ravine]

still finished chowing and now i actually get 105 ladles / day (i hope thats the norm so that i wont be questioned )

[bold quiver]

105 is good

[daring ravine]

awesome

[bold quiver]

there isnt much u can do to get that up, its mostly cooking eff dishes + stamp

@sick sentinel i love leveling statues D=

[daring ravine]

so for vman do i just use fibers of absence + balance of pain 24/7?

[sick sentinel]

lol what am i looking at

[bold quiver]

the growth rate for each lvl so i dont have to keep checking

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[sick sentinel]

makes sense

[bold quiver]

it varies between 3,8% and 3,5%

[sick sentinel]

fibers of absense bad for speedruns

[opaque sun]

its bad for 99% of things

[bold quiver]

at my cost reduc lvl ofc,

[sick sentinel]

yeah only good if you dont have multikill on a portal

[opaque sun]

Only time you use is if you cant multikill

[daring ravine]

just fibers?

wait no balance**

just balance****

[sick sentinel]

pain is fine if the defence doesnt kill you

[opaque sun]

And even then, if you upgrade fibers too much, it becomes permanent useless

[daring ravine]

not yet

[bold quiver]

Ehe

who would that right? ;[

[tacit tulip]

even at max it'll usually be a net gain when pushing void afk without mk

so might be relevant once we start seeing more void levels

[opaque sun]

Rift you mean?

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure even without multikill its a net loss in the rift if you max it

The damage penalty is absurd at max level

[raw tundra]

alll characters are at divinity so i don't want bear righT? lab bonuses don't help divinity anyways

[opaque sun]

its like applying looty curse

It can be useful, but the window where it is becomes really narrow

bear still helps with printing

[raw tundra]

eh

[opaque sun]

and dont tell me “i dont have anything printing”

[sick sentinel]

refinery too

[raw tundra]

i mean printing sutff seem good so far no need to double it

reifnery being slower works well with printing being less, too

[opaque sun]

there is never a time when “printing is fine”

And you miss out nblb

[sick sentinel]

and refinery is one of the biggest time gated mechanics

[zenith cape]

Bear is real good. I like it. You can have players loaded in lab while they're not

[raw tundra]

what is nblb

[dreamy rapids]

Can you get 90% sample without the prayer?

[opaque sun]

Like what else you would use anyway

[sick sentinel]

on dk probably with new stamp

[opaque sun]

no bubbles left behind, nblb

[raw tundra]

ah yeah that one is important

well i hope next world's skills won't be account based at least

[opaque sun]

Afk gain doesnt apply to divinity so snake doesnt do anytjing

So like what god you plan to use instead anyway

[raw tundra]

😦

[dreamy rapids]

I will be able to roll another pet soon

Hopefully not a dupe

At the very least Shippie

[tacit tulip]

you can take sheepie 6 and like it

[dreamy rapids]

Shit I don't even have 1

[tacit tulip]

sheepie is a big one too, ouch.

[dreamy rapids]

Keep getting shitty ass molti

[tacit tulip]

was mostly joking cause I had this happen over the last month

[dreamy rapids]

But today I feel it

Today I will get doot

But I probably won't

Tell ya in 30 minutes

[tacit tulip]

just realised now that I have this maxed for the very first time, world 6 is gonna be a sad day isn't it

[calm cliff]

what are the drop rate milestones ?

[opaque sun]

XX.01 for money break points

Else the break point varies per item’s base drop chance

[dreamy rapids]

Yes lol

Have fun not being max until Lava will release W6 boss

[tacit tulip]

Having never looked into this myself, I'd assume if something had a 1/5 chance, each threshold would be every 5.01 DR?

so 5.01, 10.01, 15.01

[opaque sun]

basically something like that

money starts as 1/2 base drop chance

[unreal fox]

How many % dmg, dr exp do u get ?

[true obsidian]

19.999 more

[worthy skiff]

What is the best vman gear in terms of speedrun? Magma, Divine or a Mix? My vman isn't particularly strong at around 10B dmg

[opaque sun]

theoretical divine body and pants, but doesnt matter much

[sick sentinel]

magma helm and boots, divine chest and legs, mix of afk gains, respawn and dmg

[opaque sun]

Like gear maybe affects like 0.1% of a speed run

[true obsidian]

with 10B dmg, you need to go every maps in world 1-2, check for the most multikill like this and adjust it, dmg for reach next mark > multikill keychains, but if you got so much dmg spare like me you can change into multikill keychains for extra kill

amours and weapon try to use your best, thing you need to adjust is keychain/pedent/ring....

[worthy skiff]

I have access to both magma and divine rn, just wondering it there is a significant difference before crafting up. I have to check what keychain combo works best too. Thanks all for the tips

[true obsidian]

only multikill matter in speedrun

[true obsidian]

you can focus this and equip food like this for better dmg, use SPEED FOOD (but not the small one)

[worthy skiff]

I'm well above the speed cap, unless it's not 300% anymore

[true obsidian]

it should be around 700+ speed

[true obsidian]

no, the character speed cap at 300 but it count for dmg no-cap

[sick sentinel]

visual speed is capped at 350%, but you get the dmg benefit still with more

[worthy skiff]

cool, thanks 🙂

[true obsidian]

vman full 3 speed food slot should be 700+ speed

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/9fa9c0664787597e0f03e4cb323c4ae0.png

what are these?

[sick sentinel]

purchasable with the new npc

[serene kiln]

Man I have a long way to go on quick slap

[true obsidian]

where you found them??

[sick sentinel]

one gives you a full day reset

[untold saffron]

they're on my IT slab page

haven't noticed them before

[sick sentinel]

and silver changes your daily reset time by 15 min

[true obsidian]

nah, you'll never get enough quick slap

[untold saffron]

where are they from

[signal osprey]

Nblb is enough quick slap

[sick sentinel]

new npc

part of the rotation

[untold saffron]

ah

the W2 thing?

[sick sentinel]

yeah

[untold saffron]

ight sick, more free slab slots

[serene kiln]

All for that juicy vman damage

[untold saffron]

maybe i will make it to 1400

[serene kiln]

My vman damage is garbage

[untold saffron]

some day

[signal osprey]

All slab aside the gold stop watch is just kind of nuts

[dreamy rapids]

Another fucking dupe

Got I hate this system

[untold saffron]

yoo

[signal osprey]

And currently we don't know how many can be purchased at once so don't spend any trophies now incase you can buy multiple

[untold saffron]

the pink headband

[serene kiln]

Oh man get to atom more than once a day

[signal osprey]

If stopwatches don't have a cap then the correct strat is to just never buy any of the new shop items

Even pink headband is a bait. All trophies go to stopwatches

[true obsidian]

and i think stopwatch not affect pet free pull

[signal osprey]

It won't but that doesn't matter

[opaque sun]

im assuming best time to use pocketwatch is when random event is around to do multiple of them at the same time

[signal osprey]

Its still on demand nblb

And 50 atom clicks

And a hydrogen discount

As well as like a dozen other things

[untold saffron]

free trash

[opaque sun]

Theres like dunno maybe like 10-20 things you get out of it

[signal osprey]

So right now bank all trophies until we confirm the purchase limit on stopwatches

[true obsidian]

snaillllllll

[opaque sun]

Resets po box streaks and such too

[signal osprey]

Anything you buy from the shop now will hurt you later if there's no stopwatch cap

[true obsidian]

yeah, good luck with that

[signal osprey]

You can clear that with a pen lol

[opaque sun]

Also possible cheese during season events

[true obsidian]

i know, but who does that...

[opaque sun]

For po6

[signal osprey]

Everyone who wants colo tickets

I do it everyday

[opaque sun]

resetting streak specifically meant for po6

[true obsidian]

this?

[signal osprey]

Yeah it has a colo ticket reward

[opaque sun]

yes you supposed to fish out colo tickets up to like streak 30 or so and reset streak

You can go chad and streak 100+ but kind of costly

[signal osprey]

More time consuming than anything

[signal osprey]

You can skip for printable resources so at that point the bottle neck is your patience

[opaque sun]

refarming the po6 mats takes bit too much time and effort, so most just reset streak around 20-30

[signal osprey]

Yeah but I mean assuming patience isn't an issue you skip the hard to farm mats

Skilling resources are infinite

People have done 500+ tickets in a day like that

[opaque sun]

That eats away your active time farm and also raises your rage quit meter

So depends on your tolerance as you said

[dreamy rapids]

After a while doing colo is not worth it

Unless Lava will make W5 colo

[untold saffron]

i mean, it is though

[daring ravine]

what is the start taelnts

[dreamy rapids]

More drop rate for each boss kill

[signal osprey]

Just because you don't want to do colo doesn't mean its not worth doing lol

You will never have enough candy

[dreamy rapids]

I think I have plenty of candy

[opaque sun]

you would want to get tickets for w5 colo

[signal osprey]

That just means you have a bad outlook on what you should be doing

Because nobody has plenty of candy

[untold saffron]

aren't you the same guy who complained about gaming because your snail reset from 12 to 5? you have some weird takes

[dreamy rapids]

I didn't complain I just got pissed

[daring ravine]

just never snail 4head

[untold saffron]

or upgrade the atom

[dreamy rapids]

I am poor

[untold saffron]

sell some of that candy you have plenty of or something i dunno

[daring ravine]

just atom coins

[dreamy rapids]

If candy gave me atom

[signal osprey]

Candy can help you do stuff to boost your samples

And that will give atoms

[pearl cedar]

How much candy is plenty

[signal osprey]

500k hours

[daring ravine]

i should dump natural trap blobfish on my vman for the one talent 24/7 right

[dreamy rapids]

Woo that is a lot

[untold saffron]

is that even enough if you go unlucky on the trophy

[signal osprey]

Anything less than that and you have work to do

[gusty glade]

anybody else get supppper bad frames with the game now these days?

[opaque sun]

sounds like ES

[gusty glade]

ES?

[opaque sun]

Elemental Sorcerer is known to hitch and lag when active farming

[gusty glade]

i'm on vman

[opaque sun]

Then no idea

[gusty glade]

i was getting like 6 fps when doing a void run on elephaunt.

[signal osprey]

Sounds like mobile

[gusty glade]

PC

[signal osprey]

Then your pc is a phone I guess lol

[opaque sun]

sounds like potato pc

[tacit tulip]

Can I complain about gaming cause mine reset from 12 to 10 4 times in a row?

[gusty glade]

I'm running a 7800X3D ryzen and a RTX 4080

[opaque sun]

Maybe your video card died over the summer heat

[gusty glade]

I bought it two weeks ago

And it runs everything else just fine

[opaque sun]

sounds like thats the issue

[obtuse minnow]

issue with what exactly

[tacit tulip]

Sounds along the lines of a resource allocation issue

ie the specs are fine but it's not powering idleon properly

[gusty glade]

I can play starfield without a single hitch, but this 2d game is the problem therefore my card is bad? lmao what

[opaque sun]

bought new pc (video card) with bad settings

[gusty glade]

Anybody else have solutions other than topbrid? idleon is weirdly laggy, every other game that is 10000000x harder to render is just fine.

[tacit tulip]

stuff like this is most common when a device has multiple gpus, windows may try and use the weaker gpu for a weaker system function which results in degraded performance

[opaque sun]

Like you know idleon itself doesnt optimize for latest vram on its own

[pearl cedar]

Iirc idleon is ram heavy not gpu heavy

[gusty glade]

i've got 64 gigs of ram

but if idleon is not recognizing that for some reason

[tacit tulip]

unfortunately, and I say this as kindly as possible, we're not tech support. Something about your build isn't making the most of itself when idleon is running, you gotta figure out why

[pearl cedar]

You can prioritize ram to idleon to see if it makes a diff

[tacit tulip]

That's the big downside to pc gaming, everything is unique

like my laptop can run bg3 on ultra no issue but persona 5 strikers runs like shit cause I had to change a lot of settings to ge tiut working

that's just pc gaming life, it happens

[opaque sun]

Thing is games made by bigger companies tend to detect things on their game side and make it hassle free for you

And even starfield had some issues of not supporting stuff at launch

[tacit tulip]

(fwiw p5s doesn't make use of multithreading at all so I had to make some tweaks to force it)

[opaque sun]

Small dev like idleon, especially lava who is a pixel artist, not a coder, doesnt make idleon optimized for anything

[tacit tulip]

probably the easiest way to check it would be to look at task manager. You should be able to see what idleon is using for each major component and work from there

that said idleon really does use bugger all so 😄

[signal osprey]

Just play the game with your monitor off then you'll never know if you only have 6 fps

[tacit tulip]

I've done that, don't do it

It's fine for dk bean farms

but it treats the game as an inactive window, so if you use ES it'll extra lag

[signal osprey]

Don't use ES 🧠

[tacit tulip]

It's okay contract, I'm finally done with ES. I'm a bean boy for reals now

[signal osprey]

DK is the true master race

[pearl cedar]

Just don't hook up a monitor to your pc, i experience no lag on ES

[tacit tulip]

I've even converted to using the bean pet

so when people pass by, they know I'm here for beans

[signal osprey]

Yeah bean pet is bis

I've had him on since day 1 regardless of what I'm farming

[grizzled elk]

I never picked a pet to follow, it feels wrong encouraging a shitty system

[pearl cedar]

Just what I need in an unoptimized game, more calculations done on screen

[empty ridge]

Does picking a pet to follow affect anything?

[grizzled elk]

no

[crisp silo]

drip marketing

[opaque sun]

making doot follow you probably gets you on the account seller’s list when trade is implemented and to spam private chat to you

[grizzled elk]

thats if he ever implements trading

[noble mesa]

He will
At the cost of red gem

[signal osprey]

I already have a list compiled of doot owners for my pyramid schemes

[unreal fox]

hi guys, i need the best set of dmg cards (ES)

is it good?

[sacred monolith]

#1084911530417606656 has some suggested card sets

[unreal fox]

ah ty, i checked and they have the same setup as me

[serene kiln]

Man 100bil damage seems so far away

[fallow aurora]

1b damage seems so far away

[paper sail]

Larry hit me with a +3 at the last second and ruined 11111 GT, but at least I got the 1337 on Larry

[potent lily]

What one is this?

[fallow aurora]

why does my bubo sometimes wait to use "raise dead" attack? (the attack that respawns all mobs in a certain radius)

[fallow aurora]

purple cauldron bubble 14

[calm cliff]

what is the stamp doubler

[potent lily]

I think ill farm some exp im low lvl

[pure yarrow]

finally

[tall horizon]

Take energy bolt and vials off your attack bar

[fallow aurora]

ty, i'll test it next time my bubo has CC off cooldown

[feral whale]

can someone from veterans send your obols set up? i cant find any good i think

[mild merlin]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[pure yarrow]

is this good for first void run?

[sour oasis]

Is 6 box statues from penguins with a 1 hour time candy low? It seems low...this 20,000 farm is going to take forever...

[manic moat]

How often does the printer actually print?

[manic moat]

With a 1 in 3k dr means you are killing 18k base per hour? maybe stay active with ES or DK?

[sick sentinel]

Every hour but time doesnt line up on the hour. Check toolbox dashboard for the timing

[manic moat]

always forget about toolbox

[stiff kayak]

do i have to get 40skulls on every w1 w2 w3 mob or is it global, like woudl a w5 skull count?

[manic moat]

1M kills on 40 different mobs

deathnote keeps track of that.

the quest doesn't specify what world it needs to be

[stiff kayak]

yeah i know that, but the quest giver says its w1 w2 w3 but the quest says its general

[manic moat]

is there a count on the quest? if so, check your deathnote to verify

[stiff kayak]

no

but im prety close to the 40M

and already did 12M on gmush

[manic moat]

12M on gmush counts as 1

[stiff kayak]

so im prety close to vman

[manic moat]

still need 39 more

[stiff kayak]

yeah

i mean the quest after kiling caotic chiz

[tacit tulip]

it'll be w1/2/3 like it says

DN is super important for account health anyway so it's a good way to force people to do it

[coral goblet]

is there another breakpoint here?

i can max it to 245

[sour oasis]

Every 33 i believe so it would need to be 231 then 264

[coral goblet]

ooooo okay sweet

bless

[drifting breach]

I just tried to buy starter pack it said gimme one sec

I never got anything what to do

[next locust]

Rip $

[drifting breach]

Fuck

I emailed him y’all think anything will happen

[tacit tulip]

as far as I'm aware he usually gets it sorted if you email, no idea on timeframe tho

there's been a few reported today in bug reports so I wonder if this patch broke it in some way

[drifting breach]

Yeah

[upbeat basin]

10mil kills for tremor wurm portal

[worthy gyro]

Have you checked if the money was drawn?

[bold quiver]

finaly finished this with candy '.'

decent

[muted bramble]

i need some opinion with Gaming

[bold quiver]

hit me, im master gamer

[upbeat basin]

70k kachow

how

[muted bramble]

is it better to collect more T4 plants or a few T5 ?

[bold quiver]

the quest with everyone, had already done in 3

[bold quiver]

for what?

[muted bramble]

to collect bits, T5 gives around 9-10m green

[bold quiver]

t4

[muted bramble]

im kind of bottlenecked right now

[upbeat basin]

wait the w3 quest for onyx can be completed more than 1 time? 😮

[bold quiver]

have u checked the odds of getting at5?

[muted bramble]

how to ?

[muted bramble]

dont have that yet

[bold quiver]

so u will lose 250x T4 for 1 t5

[oak hemlock]

Guys,what better use in weekly boss battle? Attack or buff?

[untold saffron]

has anyone done 7's legit yet?

[bold quiver]

how will u get t5 then

[muted bramble]

just takes time

[sour oasis]

you can get T5 without that superbit

the superbit gives you access to 6 evos

[bold quiver]

rly

[untold saffron]

ye superbit is 6 and 7

if anyone has/is doing 7's

[bold quiver]

but there are only 6 here

so its t5 t6 t7 from superbits

[muted bramble]

those gives you T6 and T7

[bold quiver]

u can check from the image. Normal without superbits are. T1 t2 T3 t4

[muted bramble]

those are mine im stuck a T5 cause thats my max

[sour oasis]

the basic plant counts as a T1

[untold saffron]

normal mutation is up to 5 trust

[bold quiver]

1st super bit gives u T5, second T6, third T7

[untold saffron]

theres only 2 superbit evo's

[muted bramble]

3

bottom left top right

and second from the left

[bold quiver]

oh ohhh thats right 2

no, there are 3 '.'

[untold saffron]

so there are

[bold quiver]

T5 and T6 and T7 from superbits

[untold saffron]

my question still stands, has anyone got 7's

[muted bramble]

anyways so collecting T4 for me is better than going for T5 ?

[bold quiver]

yeah

[bold quiver]

hmm idk, i never tried going for it

my sprout time is 2 min

[untold saffron]

the odd's just seem absurd with what we currently have to work towards it

[bold quiver]

exactly

[next locust]

Yeah there are people with 7s but it's like winning a lottery

[bold quiver]

and its not like there is even a point in doing so =/

if there was i'd at least try it out

[untold saffron]

log book flexing

[bold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/lynx-hype-furry-fursona-cat-gif-18666927

[versed moon]

I've just reached W5, my ES is in divinity, bubo pushing levels, blood berserker cooking and rest are in lab. Anything I should change to optimize ?

[untold saffron]

put everyone in the lab on the altar

[muted bramble]

Yes, you want to unlock second divinity for the link

[bold quiver]

1 pusher or active player, journeyman or mman either skilling to be top 1 or leveling to 150, everyone else at divinity

[versed moon]

I've been told to wait for god 2 before doing that

[bold quiver]

its just dumb to place 10 characters at divinity

[muted bramble]

no put everyone until God 2

well everyone doing lab*

the way i did it was 8 on div

1 pushing and vman skilling

[untold saffron]

i did say everyone in the lab, not everyone

[bold quiver]

yeah thats the best

[worthy gyro]

Puttning everyone at div is a healthy brake from the game over a few days

[bold quiver]

if u need a break from the game u should rather uninstal cuz something is not right

[muted bramble]

not rly, its important to have brain rest time

thats why you can idle everything for a couple of days

[bold quiver]

thats the point, u are not supossed to be worrying that much about the game, just playing and having fun whenever u want

[coral pecan]

Just made it to wolrd 5

finally

[muted bramble]

i normally do it once a month or every 2 week, just put everyone at specific task

[bold quiver]

if it seems like a job and u are burning out, u'd better uninstal not healthty

[muted bramble]

but the reality is if you are to the point you active a character you are already beyond the "idle" fun part

[untold saffron]

just log into idle skilling and work on the triphy instead

[muted bramble]

i did that 😄

[worthy gyro]

Bruh, just because someone takes a break, doesnt mean you dont enjoy it

[muted bramble]

exactly

Healthy rest

[untold saffron]

I'm currently at the 750 gems. well, waiting on the cooldown to claim them

[bold quiver]

😮 trophy when

[muted bramble]

Nice if you ever need help let me know, its been a while since i did all that but i do remember the important bits

[worthy gyro]

Healthy gamer rutine: play League of legends 18 hours per day because if you need breaks its unhealthy

[untold saffron]

league is still popular?

[muted bramble]

honestly i replaced League with Smite

[bold quiver]

yes

[muted bramble]

less toxic, but still addictive

[worthy gyro]

I meant League as in a sweaty game haha

[muted bramble]

not me just doing R6s, Smite and Legend of Idleon

[untold saffron]

anyone spent the 1150 gems on the amorak cape roulette yet?

[muted bramble]

btw did anyone figure this one yet ? #💖future-content-blog message

[sour oasis]

Almost...

[muted bramble]

my friend got amarok cape XD

i got the skilling one

[bold quiver]

so close, get your vman to work on that!

[sour oasis]

He is printing 300k skins on both slots

Its so slow though

[worthy gyro]

Looks like progress?

[untold saffron]

I know i'll get some shite if i rolled it, theres only 3 or 4 good outcomes

[bold quiver]

i got the efaunt cape

its kinda sad that that pack has normal capes on it.... so much rng jez christ

[untold saffron]

way back whenever this first came around i got efaunt, which at the time wasn't awful because i couldn't even beat W2 chaotic

[bold quiver]

true and its a good cape

[muted bramble]

its takes me 2h active ES to kill W5 hardest difficulty

[bold quiver]

💀

[untold saffron]

what are the good rolls, just angel, afk flowers and voidwalker pack wings?

[bold quiver]

forgot drop rate

[untold saffron]

do you need more than 1 molten though for whoever you're active on

[bold quiver]

oh as an extra cape

only afk then

i wouldnt want an extra voidwalker cape

[untold saffron]

it has like 3% afk on it right? thats better than most alternatives

[bold quiver]

indeed

personaly i'd want another drop rate cape, i dont like swaping

[signal osprey]

Yeah but kruk cape gives that much too and you get 10 of those by default so void walker cape pretty trash

[untold saffron]

tru

https://i.gyazo.com/c25675608d68400d9e4c7a72eacf58ae.png

should finish my 160th stack today btw

[bold quiver]

i stack red eggs

[lapis mesa]

you got a lot of faith in those div pearl drops huh

[undone nacelle]

Guessing from bug reports that its common for the new boss battles to not give another fighting chance after daily reset?

[bold quiver]

yes

[untold saffron]

your spice teams and shinies must be stacked already to not be rolling any eggs

[signal osprey]

Could also just be lazy

[untold saffron]

blasphemy

would it be unwise to skip the class/skill xp shiny bonuses to spend more time on others?

[somber lance]

can you get a green stack out of quest items like dog bone?

[untold saffron]

i don't remember the drop rates of dog bones but yes

[somber lance]

greened stack only give dmg from lab right?

[sour oasis]

You can green stack dog bones

Unfortunately for me i handed in the quest on every character before knowing green stacking was a thing

[somber lance]

same

[untold saffron]

likewise, bring on character 11

I'll be trying for portraits and monster ratings once i'm done with these employment stats though

[somber lance]

I think I'll just ignore them all. i baerly begun w5 so 10mil of such items is out of my reach

[untold saffron]

don't do them yet, just don't finish the quests on an ES

or DK, unsure which is better

[bold quiver]

shinies? idk, my spice team are around 100k

i stopped trying to push above that cuz... meh

i just want all red eggs kkkkkkk i saw jaeger roling 1 one time and decided to do it too

stopped at almost 72 breeding lvl,

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/6738669b5e573f3eaee157f125629521.png

this is just god awful isn't it?

[sick sentinel]

That was placeholder text from before as well i believe. Maybe it could be different, but who knows

[tacit tulip]

depends how much damage w6 mobs do 😂

[rustic garnet]

I've got 'easy' fishing stacks to grab and nearly at a potion stack too

[uncut bear]

What was the meta on Elite classes again? One bubo, two ES? One or two BB?

[sick sentinel]

2dk, 2 es, 2 sb
Or
2dk 2bb, 2 es, 1 sb
I prefer the top one for balance

[untold saffron]

i didn't think 2 BB was still considered preferable to some people

[uncut bear]

Thanks but why 2 ES?

[untold saffron]

double god link mainly

[daring ravine]

exactly why you think its good

(double god link and early on 50% div exp 24/7

[sick sentinel]

If you donr habe doot 2 god links is better. Even with doot, better charge rate for souls

1 bubo does the job of 2

[tall horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/rashaken-idleon-worship-soul-vomit-gif-27193177

[daring ravine]

souls

[uncut bear]

Taking Souls Like goggins

[daring ravine]

you forgot oozie souls in that gif

[tall horizon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865417298260525096/1056727222905475134/7Soul.gif

Gif is too large for tenor if I add in oozie

[daring ravine]

awesome

[tall horizon]

They have very smile limits

[daring ravine]

why is the world blurred but souls not

[tall horizon]

They're stuck in the 2010s lol

I use blur filter

[daring ravine]

it doesnt apply to items?

[tall horizon]

Which only applies to some stuff lol

[daring ravine]

aw

[tall horizon]

Nope

[worn frost]

anyone know how long it should take to get the fish statue onyx? because it's a joke at this point

[daring ravine]

long

or around 1 minute with enough candy

[noble bane]

the world 3 ones are worse

[worn frost]

no? w3 ones just take time but easy

fish statue, i get like 80 an hour or some shit like that

wait no, like 30

[sour oasis]

man

[patent sentinel]

I can’t claim this quest from the pig for being level 50 div

Anyone else have this problem?

[hexed crescent]

try re entering map

[patent sentinel]

Thanks, I left world 5, came back, went to oranges and then walked instead of teleporting to him

[hexed crescent]

Yeah, it just needs to reload the map

You will have the problem especially in w5, whenever you pick up a quest you would already have completed

[winter trout]

Hello

[rapid shale]

is this a good captain?

[wheat kiln]

Guys if i put more point in molto loggo , like 500 % . Will make a diference ?

Oh ok thank you

[untold saffron]

is it realistic to green stack loomi's keys?

[next laurel]

113m dmg for ES character lvl 340 is good not not

[tacit tulip]

level is inconsequential

[next laurel]

Idk what should I upgrade

[tacit tulip]

most damage comes from alchemy, you're still due some from sailing too

[next laurel]

For wiz first bub it’s lvl 120 or 130

The other things I maxed as I could

[sharp igloo]

Use atoms to keep raising alchemy pretty much infinitely

[next laurel]

Ok

[tacit tulip]

This is my copy paste for "work on alchemy"

The easiest way to level alchemy is to look at your bubbles that are very easy to level up. This is typically: Logs, ore, bugs, fish, and sometimes mob mats.

Start taking printing samples (use royal sampler) for the skilling stuff. Use ES to farm mob mats if needed

your goal here is to level up these easy bubbles so that the lab bonus, "no bubble left behind" levels the HARD bubbles for you, without spending your resources: Salt, worship souls, trapping critters, cooking spices.

As you progress, your account will get stronger in all areas. This will make your samples bigger, which lets you level the bubbles further, and it's an almost endless cycle towards greatness.

As you get stronger it'll be easier to level other things: Stamps, craft better gear, and generally do anything you need.

It's not the most optimal way to do things I think, but it's the easiest

[balmy kiln]

where can we get the alchemy spreadsheet guys?

[next laurel]

Thx u

[next laurel]

I’ll work on it

[next laurel]

W4

[quartz turtle]

how do you have 110k nugget + chemical before getting 2b/400b green ones. im struggling here with my 7k nugget no chem 😦

[untold saffron]

which one? idleontoolbox does basically all the work you could need

[untold saffron]

he rolled a luckier nugget dice

[fallow aurora]

i'm struggling with 10k nugget and I still have 2 plants to discover

ie says the highest nugget I can roll is 203k

[quartz turtle]

for me its 411k :/ nothing in sight

[fallow aurora]

I got my 10k nugget a month ago, got pretty lucky from 844x to 10kx nugget

[tacit tulip]

I unlocked snail witha 10k

[fallow aurora]

i'm pretty unlucky with unlocking new mutations

[zealous niche]

[dreamy rapids]

Awsome

1 day

[signal osprey]

[dreamy rapids]

Does XP multiplyer effect balloons?

[pearl cedar]

10% of the way there,

[lapis mesa]

oooh shiny

one last checkmark before resample.. im one div level away from multitool stamp

[raw tundra]

bear 's n'ce and pancake ex'sts

[raw tundra]

how do you get a consistent sourc eof void bar? you sample void ore and use automation arm to fill forge with void ore?

[zealous niche]

And have archers killing mobs

[weary granite]

I swapped everyone from divinity to labs after getting the 2nd god, how much should I push before swapping back over? I was thinking green stack node maybe since it's getting pretty close

[zealous niche]

The point of the second deity is you don’t need to put them back into labs

You can take them off div and send them into the worlds again

[weary granite]

well I have them back in the labs for levels so I can have a better lab while in divinity

[sick sentinel]

4th god goat is the one you link to to do in lab and remote div gains

[zealous niche]

Once you can reach the end node with 6 chars lab is ‘done’

Still need to fill out the gems and chips

[weary granite]

I'm up to the jewel node with 8 chars rn, so if I get goat I can continue finishing labs and get div xp? I definitely gotta get that going, I gave up after spending so much on the 3rd god I was getting really unlucky lol

[sick sentinel]

yeah with goat, being in lab also counts as being in div

[orchid ferry]

what should I pick next? Rando or Fractal?

[tawdry steeple]

not rando, rando is pretty much useless till you unlock them all

[sour oasis]

I believe crystal is fourth pick

Not 100%

[orchid ferry]

i thought crystal was last

lol

how come rando is useless?

[tall horizon]

Broken

[tawdry steeple]

you use bottles for the upgrades

[sick sentinel]

It supposedly doesnt work after the first time

[tall horizon]

It spawns boss once, then never again

[tawdry steeple]

that too

[orchid ferry]

lmao wtf

and fractal is ass too?

[sour oasis]

Yeah basically fractal is a huge time sink for small rewards

[tawdry steeple]

rando boss needs to be daily

[tall horizon]

Fractal is ok, but also broken on mobile

[orchid ferry]

so crystal > fractal > rando?

[tall horizon]

Fractal might actually be fixed on mobile, but need confirmation

[orchid ferry]

Fractal's rewards look very meh

[fast grail]

Wish lava gave us actual patch notes again

So many things that get fixed/changed and no one figures it out for a while because we just assumed it was still bugged

[coral pecan]

Does anyone have suggestions for me

I just reached W5

except all of my other guys haven't even passed W3 yet

cuz I just tossed them all into the lab

[zealous niche]

Crystal is better than rando or fractal

[coral pecan]

and 3D printed

[zealous niche]

I’m getting great progress on my vman from crystal island daily

[orchid ferry]

wdym

[zealous niche]

Just front up, kill a tonne of crystals from daily crystal spawn of island, daily guaranteed crystals and choco chip, this translates into a skill level a day roughly of crystal countdown and I’ve been getting 3 class levels a day from the island too

[orchid ferry]

hmmm

[sick sentinel]

The giant crystals give a ton of exp too

[zealous niche]

My vman is closing in on 400 now

The tiny crystals give a tonne of exp

The whole island gives a tonne of exp per kill, it’s just limited in how many you get per day

[pulsar fossil]

is 99 god shard the most money 1 character can have cause i think i rolled over and went back down to 6 god shards

[eager sedge]

how much better is wurms compared to crawlers?

[zealous niche]

It’s all there, it just is displayed badly

[sick sentinel]

Visually it gets wonky, for correct amount look at IT or IE

[fallow aurora]

check ie for ur actual money

[sick sentinel]

Not rly close

[signal osprey]

Its quite a bit better

[eager sedge]

i see

[pulsar fossil]

ah yes i just put all the money into my storage and i can withdraw more than is shown

[eager sedge]

well good to know

got 6.9M kills left till wurms

[pulsar fossil]

ok just check IE have 136 god shards ok thats good

[calm cliff]

what is hourly tap?

[eager sedge]

u click bubbles whenever u have printer proc

[calm cliff]

oooh ic

[eager sedge]

So every hour when u get print u click a bubble

pretty easy to understand

Pretty challenging to get multiple bubbles to click hourly

[gentle anchor]

can u sample rare drops?

[orchid ferry]

nop

[eager sedge]

No

[fallow aurora]

imagine sampling statues

[haughty cove]

is it possible to get the blue wings from new gem shop?

[fallow aurora]

yes

someone got it earlier

[haughty cove]

that would be great

[zealous niche]

cries in iOS

[haughty cove]

oh nice

i wish i get it

best wings so far

[fallow aurora]

update hasn't come out on IOS yet?

[haughty cove]

but 1150 gems is alot

[fallow aurora]

yeah

[haughty cove]

if some one be unlucky enough they well get amarok wings

if i get amarok wings i would cry

[lapis mesa]

a few people def pulled amarok wings, they did cry

[fallow aurora]

fr?

[signal osprey]

Every wing in the game is in the pack and its equally weighted

So yeah 1 in 13 people will get Amarok wings

[tidal sky]

why would those wings be the best? the best is the 13% afk one i think

or the dr one if you haven’t it

[tardy oak]

how do you get the starfire bars fast?

[muted bramble]

active your archer

[tidal sky]

you don’t

[sick sentinel]

Put them in forge and 2 min afk claim archers

Or 1 hr candy

They wouldnt finish in 2 min 😅

[manic moat]

best class to beat nightmare kruk? DK?

[sick sentinel]

Es hits harder

Dk is safe tho

[manic moat]

hmmm. might just have to try on them all xD

[gilded bane]

what a scam

[fallow aurora]

how can u tell

[hexed crescent]

Were vials nerfed recently?

[runic girder]

Why you think that

Probably disconnected your lab

[hexed crescent]

I feel like all the bonuses dropped

Nah, first thing I checked

[runic girder]

Idk then

Your guess as good as mine

[signal osprey]

The only way they dropped is if you broke your lab

[runic girder]

However i dont think they got nerfed

Probably just misremembered or in fact did disconnect lab

[signal osprey]

If lab is fine then you have the right values

Nothing has been nerfed

[hexed crescent]

Alright, thanks, I guess I misremembered

[zealous niche]

Not yet, ranges from synchronised to a week behind, usually a day behind

[zenith nova]

Is there a way to reclaim gold twine if I add it to my fishing equipment? Need to collect them for troll helm

[sick sentinel]

Gotta farm more

Cant reclaim

[zenith nova]

Rip

[sick sentinel]

Its just a rare drop and you comsumed it to use in fishing

[zenith nova]

Best to farm it with ES?

[sick sentinel]

Ye

Can candy it too, i had decent luck 1 hr candying with sb around 9-10 dr way back

[zenith nova]

Ah good idea

[signal osprey]

Using candy to replace ES is the way

[tacit tulip]

I did a months farming floms before w5 came out, thankfully never used the twine so had enough for all 10 chars 😄

[signal osprey]

I got enough candying the eclipse

[zealous niche]

You could throw all chars on floms and call it eclipse skull progress

It’s how I’m approaching recipe from suggmas

If I get eclipse before recipe though.. 🫠

[tacit tulip]

at that point the answer is "cry"

[zealous niche]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-point-debate-argument-angel-gif-17274775

I’m at 800 rare drops with 200M kills, so yeah probably

[tacit tulip]

you can borrow some of mine

[versed moon]

Could someone explain the offerings from divinity please ?

[true obsidian]

guess i'm a lucky guy

[tacit tulip]

left= small options, 1, 5, 10% chance to unlock a god
right = big options, 25, 50, 100% chance to unlock a god

spend the points earned from divinity to attempt to unlock a god, each time you spend points, there's a chance one or both offerings will change to another option

[fallow aurora]

theres a chance it won't change too iirc

[tacit tulip]

well, yeah, otherwise I wouldn't have said chance to change 😄

[fallow aurora]

sry i'm stupid

you either go the lucky route or the guranteed route, the lucky route is cheaper (if your lucky) and the guranteed route is obviously guranteed but more expensive

[zealous niche]

Nah, just the ‘sonic’ logical fallacy.

Gotta go fast so I’ll skip over parts

[muted plover]

just got into w5... should i put someone in divinity ?

[tacit tulip]

9 guys if you can

unlocking the first two gods is the most important thing you can do

[zealous niche]

We have a pin for entry into w5 advice

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

The worth of the bear depends on your lab progress, if you can reach the last node with six players you’re ‘done’ lab and can have nobody in it

(6 attached to bear though)

If not, you’ll have to have some chars in lab to push that lab line width up for a little

[fallow aurora]

I have the line width but not enough connection range to nodes

[tacit tulip]

not much you can do about that except fish for the gems that give you the conection range

I 100% bought the gem shop gems until I had them all lol

[muted bramble]

stop saying 9 its 8

8 div, mman for SKilling, 1 active

[tacit tulip]

nah mman too

[grand karma]

its for sure mman too. the sooner you get all of your chars to 40 the better

[prisma furnace]

God dangit, that 25000 pts pong achievement took way longer then I expected. Had some crazy lagspikes while playing it, so I kept getting screwed over at crucial moments 😅

[tacit tulip]

congrats on actually doing it

a lot of us give up

[rough wasp]

My pong is only 8.5k

[prisma furnace]

Thanks man, I'm just way to stubborn I guess.

[fallow aurora]

me who hasn't unlocked pong

[muted plover]

i put all 10 characters and bought 2 gem things... the dinivty xp works like cooking ? i just leave they there ?

[tacit tulip]

well I doubled my score...

[fallow aurora]

when your characters meditate on the altar, they gain Divinity Points and you spend these divinity points at a chance to unlock gods

[prisma furnace]

It's something

[fallow aurora]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message this tells u the rest

[fervent brook]

How did everyone deal with the battles. Seems like it was better to pick buff/misc until the end and then attack.

[tacit tulip]

yaaas

[prisma furnace]

Heeeey! Nice man

[dapper prism]

@barren otter
I did it, a new nugget!
From 10k, 13k, 15k, 17k, 18k and now.. the one and only.. 19k 😭

[barren otter]

[dapper prism]

I know the 18k was an outlier. Now the question is.. will I get a 20k or a 21k next? XD

[barren otter]

190k next

[dapper prism]

I'll take that xD

[true obsidian]

does in Mage, Quick slap still give more dmg?

[fast grail]

Yes, quick slap has much much better scaling

[fallen flax]

Which of the gold ball shop upgrades should I focus on this time around? AFK gains rate?

[sick sentinel]

Can you show the rotation

[vagrant mountain]

forge cap is good

[vocal flower]

Just got a lucky lad from blitz troll but still no cape 😦

[dapper prism]

Oh it changed?

[fallow aurora]

yeah

[dapper prism]

Forge cap let's gooooo

[fallen flax]

This is mine.

[true obsidian]

Finally

yesssssssssssss

[sick sentinel]

Forge cap is always good since its like the only thing that increases it. Otherwise just whatever u want

[sharp ruin]

What dmg do you have?

[fallen flax]

Okay, thanks!

[true obsidian]

162.000M+

[dapper prism]

Aka 162b, that's a lot o.o

[true obsidian]

really? it still low compare with other vman i saw, they have dmg can smack my strongest char now as a kid :<

[dapper prism]

I mean to do NM kattle

Vman will always suck in total dmg but also remember that he hits 4x at once

[sacred monolith]

I'm on about hour 3 of Frosty Firelight wave 120🥱

[calm cliff]

i got a 4k like as soon as it came out and i havent got a better one since

while my friend got a 20k a week later

[upbeat basin]

So I've been slacking hard on divinity but I decided to lvl it up a bit. i got 100% xp from stamps 150% xp from cooking and 140% from alch and i got the ES talent maxed. so how is it i'm only getting between 21-41 xp an hour?

[crisp silo]

all these nice percent bonuses apply to the xp amt gained from the stance

[opaque sun]

Like are you choosing your divinity styles

[upbeat basin]

I watched a video on it which said I should use the Mantra style on all the characters praying to get the most xp

🤷‍♂️

[opaque sun]

As a family yes, but not for you

Like read what mantra does

[crisp silo]

what div lvl are youj

[opaque sun]

For himself, its just 1x exp multiplier

[upbeat basin]

everyone is only lvl 16

[opaque sun]

And mantra’s shared exp doesnt show on afk info, but its getting added to all

[crisp silo]

oh, i guess mantra is better rn

[upbeat basin]

Ahh

makes sense

[opaque sun]

Usually you would want like few (usually mages) to generate offerings and focus exp on them, while others uses mantra

For utility you want to also unlock gods while focusing levels on the mages, than equally leveling everyone

communism style of exp leveling means you cant get offerings (god unlocks) which are quite substantial buff to divinity progress

[upbeat basin]

Yeah I found out today that you get increased minor bonuses = Div lvl -_- My account is way to lvled for lvl 16 across the board on div.

[opaque sun]

mantra is nice on paper (effective 10x exp if you look at the exp of the whole family), but in practice its not so good early on. Early on you need to grab those god unlocks to get utility. Mantra is more of an endgame style

[upbeat basin]

So basically the most balanced one atm for points and xp would be 2x 2x chakra

[opaque sun]

I would yea dedicate someone who rushes div levels so that you can give them div duty roles

I see that a family with 1 guy with div level 90 that can use mindful and others being lv40 is more versatile and useful, than a family of all lv60 meddling with mantra

[tidal sky]

btw this got me wondering if it affects fractal island? anyone knows?

[upbeat basin]

I see. Yeah I guess it helps that i've lvled the blessings pretty high too. Thanks ^^

[opaque sun]

doesnt seem lava added any easter egg connection with the pickle jar

Many thought of that

[tidal sky]

he should it would be cool

[opaque sun]

that would also mean we have to farm “nothing, lol” cogs

[tidal sky]

yeah, that also would be cool, and endgamers want to look for something to do anyway

[safe harness]

does mman right hand work for cooking?

[opaque sun]

end gamers will rage quit if that happens. Sacrificing their exp cog slots

[tidal sky]

all for nothing, lol

[opaque sun]

mman hands dont work on w4-w5 skills it seems

So it wont help having mman cook levels on top

[safe harness]

except for skill mastery i assume?

[upbeat basin]

I feel the end game chat contains 98% "Look at my cogs"

[opaque sun]

Skill mastery doesnt have anything with him being the highest level

like sure its okay to level him, but dont worry trying to be higher than bb’s cook lvl

[fast imp]

Does it matter which bb i do super chows on? Or can i use both to get them all faster? (Eg. Have one doing world 1 and 3 other doing 2 and 4)

[somber path]

Use the 2nd one

Individual character has to have 100m

[dapper tulip]

Will i get more kills for deathnote active killing or afk? my afk gain rate is 133%.

[opaque sun]

The game is bugged to only look at one bb’s super chow. On pc it looks at 2nd bb and on mobile it looks at 1st

Its the same issue with having multiple mman and his right/left hands

[opaque sun]

With that low afk gain, active will get much more kills. But issue is you really shouldnt spend your precious “active farming time” for a task that can be done via afk like deathnote

When you active deathnote, you are also paying the opportunity cost of things you can only get through active

[dense cargo]

https://abberline.idleonefficiency.com/

The first half of w5 was a breeze to push through but now I'm stuck at lamps. Takes ages! Any advice?

[dapper tulip]

im just bored of statue farming tbh.. lol

but thats fair

[lapis mesa]

you have a lot of easily upgradeable stamps, and quite a few low bubbles. that would a start

[opaque sun]

active deathnote imo is more boring as you will be doing active on a bad map layout with no item gains afterwards

[modern plaza]

statue farming will be over soon lol 😂

[fast grail]

Very very big case of alchemy neglect

[modern plaza]

yeah it’s nice to first go through and get BB kills to 100m then circle back and afk the 1b with the “crew”

[opaque sun]

on a guy who only has afk gain of 133%, super chow/eclipse sounds too early

[dapper tulip]

i have all my chow, not super yet though

but i do have a few of the final skulls

in deathnote

i have 36 billion max dmg. how high does that go?

[lapis mesa]

like a limit? it just goes man

[slender prism]

What’s the best card setup for bubo cash farming

[dapper tulip]

i just mean what is "endgame"

lol

what do yall have?

[lapis mesa]

oh, im not endgame, you could ask in #endgame-gen-chat they ahve some pretty absurd numbers

[sick sentinel]

Double crystal cards, drop ratwle til the next odd number breakpoint, fill with cash from mobs cards

[dapper tulip]

i dont have access to whatever channel you linked

[sick sentinel]

Go to #👀read-me and react with peanut

That should open the channel in the lists

[dapper tulip]

oh thank you!

[untold lintel]

whats the first bubble I should start using atoms on?

[sick sentinel]

Laaarrryyy

[hidden grove]

First ancient

[little harbor]

What bubbles should i be leveling with atoms first. Been doing 1st purple, but its now ~300 levels further than other vats

[opaque sun]

larry

[little harbor]

ive been doing that a bit, but dont make enough atoms in the day to use up all my atom upgrades. so larry gets a couple, then the rest in more Wisdom (stable jenius)

[opaque sun]

then you need to get more oak samples before worrying what to use atom on

[little harbor]

and best way to get more oak samples?

[opaque sun]

like if you cant afford larry, there isnt much options to use atoms on

raise everything chopping related

[little harbor]

larry is 500 atoms each, wisom is 100 each

yeah, not great

[opaque sun]

This game isnt “one solution of 100000x buff to fix all”, its more about spreading wide and getting many instances of 1.1x buffs

[willow drum]

increase everything for gains

[hidden grove]

silly question but on gear do you put on main stat or acc stat

[opaque sun]

Even things that may seem unrelated are essentially indirect multipliers

Main stat

If you lack accuracy, just raise shaquracy

[willow drum]

main stat, acc comes from stats / shaq

[hidden grove]

thought so

[opaque sun]

rushers these days skip their fmj/shaquracy buffing stages in w2

[modern plaza]

well other than that atom buff but yes 😄

[coral laurel]

I just started W2 and got king doot, any tips to speedrun to W5?

[hidden grove]

I have enough for w5 base but multi kill and crystals killing would be good

[opaque sun]

speed run as in rush to unlock w5, or vman’s “speedrun” content

[coral laurel]

rush to unlock W5

[modern plaza]

WOW gz

[willow drum]

push with warr to w4 and put everyone in lab and keep pushing with warr

[lapis mesa]

it is time! now i can resample.. got onyx mining,chopping, feasty and now this muahahahahaha

[rough wasp]

That stamp kinda goated

[coral laurel]

alright, thanks

[coral laurel]

yeah I got super lucky and got two king doots, but trading isn't released yet unfortunately

[rough wasp]

bruh

[modern plaza]

my printer sample rate is 83% on my ES without royal sampler. Hopefully Lava makes royal sampler great again

surely it must be possible to get 90% without royal sampler now

[little harbor]

meh, its improvement, but not as much as i hoped

[willow drum]

use magma pants over bleach pants

[little harbor]

yeah, gives me about 2% more eff that way, good call

[willow drum]

yeah magma helm is prob more as well

whats ur card setup? boost food?

chips

[modern plaza]

if i get all my skill mastery and some more on the sample bubble, it looks like i'll hit 90%... unless skill mastery doesn't mean sample% but just a multiplier on the printer

[little harbor]

food, only first 3 are helping

[willow drum]

got anything to replace the base effic?

those kinda suck

[willow drum]

no tremor worm cards?

[little harbor]

oh forgot that one

all that moved me from 106m to 107m

[little harbor]

those are the only chips i have to boost skills

[willow drum]

divine scarf is huge as well but might not be able to get yet

[little harbor]

Just added 13 choppin levels, got me another 1% or so

[willow drum]

rest of the gains are gonna be items with afk% and main stat + vman