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just an additional bonus when linked to that god
efficiency that gets worse the more regular efficiency you get. it's a starter account's best friend.
is there a way around the speedruns resetting gmush kills?
dont farm kills on vman
I don't get it
what are people talking about gmush kills getting reset?
They're not, they're on my SB, and my deathnote gets reset back down to 2m
Why does my kraken towers bug out and push mobs all way to the end instead of backwards
it scales horribly, so the majority of the benefit it gives your account is at the start of the bell curve of scaled skill efficiency accumulation.
i believe it is that vman thing that reset so it opens all portals, but only for vman
there's a modifier on certain enemies that when they get hit, they teleport forward, kraken forces them to continuously teleport forward
this whole game is things like that.
the pink mobs move forward when hit so its a weird interaction
Oh right, so my void wasnt fast enough
so why would you invest in scaled efficiency if you can get regular efficiency? @lavish cloak
Its not that bad really. It has a hard cap minimum which still comes out to 25 multitool levels worth of efficiency if you max the bonus
first i've heard of it but maybe worth submitting a bug report if there isnt one already
because the only way to min/max your account is to invest in every available source of every stat.
roger that, I assumed this was something everybody was getting ๐ thanks mate
there's nothing to stop you having both
do they stack|?
i knew i could count on you to spill wisdom
yeah, the more normal eff you get, the less scaled you get, but scale floors out at 5/level, so you always get something
ok thanks
hey guys is those captains good or what?!
confusing but I sort of get it
I am almost done anway. Tough I few I have to wait for NBLB to get it to atom like OJ Bubble.
yeah, there was a lot of guesswork over it when w5 came out haha
scaled. more value the less you have
the more you have the less its value
You want speed then loot value much later
well I bought 1 level
Depending on how often you can check, you really only want max boat speed and loot value
having rerolled each captain for each of my 20 boats at least twice, i am tempted to call your captains quite terrible, but i also have been chucking good captains away for better ones. i might be jaded.
i personally would only go for loot value since the start
What is the soft cap for mage is best?
isn't this the same for whole math? 1 added to 1 is bigger than 1 added to 100.
too lazy to recruit new captains
I strongly recommend everyone to use Idleon Toolbox to get notified when better captain is available to replace worse ones (ones that have the same skills anway)
The short answer is its a good bonus and you should max it assuming you can do so cheaply. Its not worth spending all your bits on though instead of investing your bits into getting more bits from gaming upgrades
yeah I prioritise gaming
oh okay okay gotcha
its of 1+1
#1087501872002256966 message
and then you can play around with the levels of the bubble on the wiki to see
instead
Oh ok thank you
got it i will work on getting better captains
what stats i should go for them
Speed and Loot in the beginning. artifact chance and rare chance aren't absolutely terrible, but you will eventually replace them for loot. The more endgame you get, the more loot will win out over speed as you upgrade your boats' base speed to cover your goals
Rip eg. he will be missed.
cloud discovery% is the most terrible of all.
I don't think artifact chance is worth using over loot even if you still need to get artifacts.
so i need speed and loot on every captain with some artifacts chance on some and forget about cloud discovery right
fr...
i would take artifact chance only when it rolls paired with a great loot or speed stat, and only when no other loot/speed captains can outclass it
just focus on loot and upgrade the worst captain for a better one everytime he appears
very helpfull tnx guys appreciated 
This is good advice.
example:
@opaque sun do you use this anywhere?
which captain tier should i go for?
you probably don't worry too much about tiers, as high tiered captains can roll low stats. just take the best stats available to you
Imagine 1200% loot though o.O
although I still haven't found Eldrich talent artifact since rift release -.-
what are late gamers activing?
tnx bro that was really helpful
dk at beans i believe?
sigh... there's gotta be something better, that's so fucking boring
i mean after you reach that point in the game, you just wanna leave it active and upgrade ur bubbles hourly prob
Not sure how DK at beans is boring relative to anything else
You click auto and then do nothing just like you would at any other map lol
what do you mean auto?
by active you do not mean using wasd and r?
late gamers are jazzed about this whole statue update where statues count for like 10x what they normally do all of a sudden, so we're pushing progress all over the statue spectrum currently as that is the new shiny progress area
assuming you did the work to get onyx statues
is there any way to effectively get statues besides the early ones at beans? Late ones drop so few
w1 statues are especially good because they affect mining and chopping samples, as well as food effect and base damage. it's a really nice spread. fighting anywhere you can get dense shiny spawn and quick screenclears is basically the fastest statue farming you'll get. the rarer statues where you need to focus on a specific statue like oceanman from bug catching are decent focuses if you're trying to do things that don't involve active farming shinies
beans are just 2 platforms of easily killable mobs, the perfect divine knight shiny spawn feedback loop
rip lol
Maybe someone can help me? Yesterday i could carry 390M bugs on my VMAN, today i leveled stamp for cap 1 more time, recheck but can only carry 375 now, (already checked star sign doubler, am using the constelation for extra carry cap, equipped prayer, but i have no idea what i am missing
Extra bags talent ?
Vman talent specced?
what would this help
Tk storage?
Meants the tab 1 carry cap
Inventory is cleared up?
yeah
Not much else i can think of
exactly, i have no idea why this is happening '.'
only vman that lost carry cap ?
i even got yesterday's pic
and only for bugs ?
i wouldnt be able to answer that, but it seems like he lost cap
would it be possiblee that its an interaction with CCD?
I was thinking shrine somehow? fuck knows
seems like everything
-carry cap starsign?
Star talent on both presets?
yep, using the star sign
yes
It results to like 450% multikill so is quite big. Consider its equivalent of โ10-45% multikill per tierโ
hmm my last hope is that CCD bugged something with the stamps, so i'll just wait for another lvl and check again
Oh damn just finished my run... should have invested some lol!
For a speed run you get thousands of mk from void radius so its not that big of a sample loss
you won't stop thinking about it until you can re-run now though xD
Send IE 
let me update sec
it just doesnt make sense that yesterday i showed 390M and today i cant reach it kkkkkkkkk even after leveling 1 time the stamp
10% carry cap sign missing
What up W5 homies
where do you guys farm obols for the splinters to upgrade em?
I'm generelly confused on what to do, currently all chars in divinity with lab god except for my bb (farming zows and chows) and my maestro whos levelling. All my rss are basically empty except the ones im printing but they're being 100% used for first and second salt production to keep it running all the time. Should I keep it like that or change sth?
but im still at 388M
Any map in W1-2
Beans, sand pots, or blood bones with DK depending on what world you want statues from. Sand pots is probably the best for pure obols though with the gold obol drops
Still 12k less than current nugget, but first nugget I remember seeing over 10k in months
@signal osprey what's your combs sample? i heard that i need to add bob to my hourly clicks
@signal osprey anything else i could be missing
Does max pull out account for empty space or is it just your carry cap
That's 16k more than mine and I am starting to actively resent my shovel for fucking me over constantly
2m
yeah max is all slots filled
You started the 1m sb grind yet?
Did you brick your lab and lose stamp doubler?
Thinking about that hurts my soul ๐ญ
Ugh no lol going back and playing DK to finish up crap I ignored
no
At like 6k per day if it's all I do. Been using my SB to statue farm for the 100k quest and double stacking gains
At like 80k plunderous, hoping there will be another boost one day
Did you lose the star talent?
My newfound goal is have a higher plunder than you
nah its maxed
i sent IE, but i just cant find what is going on
https://nitiz.idleonefficiency.com/ thought it might have been the 10% carry cap i forgot to equip but that only got me from 375 to 388
i think shit just bugged out for some reason on my stamp upgrade
Should be easy tbh I'm not planning on doing plunderous for a bit
Could be stamp bonus talent , or something ..?
if you only lost like 2m
some small bonus to a bonus somewhere
Not sure why but my plunder growth is seriously lacking in speed. I have my archlord and flag up to level 230 and it's still suuuper slow
Sup dudes, anyone know the current family meta? Is it 3 squires?
How slow? Can't remember last time I did it but think it was like 700/hr or something maybe?
I know it would take me about 50 days non stop to hit 1m
Ok, so maybe not as slow as I thought. My frame of reference is Chicky getting from 600k to 1m in a month or two
So hear me out this is gonna sound pretty weird but I dont think you actually ever had 390m
O.O
Did you go back to player menu by chance?
Im just around 400k plunder kills, still gonna take a while
yeah to cloudsave and see if something was wrong
I looked at your storage on IE and you have the exact same first 3 pages of storage as I do because we both used auto sort I guess
And one thing I noticed in your screen shots is that the one with 390m was on a page with logs and leaves in the background
What to do when having 0 rss, except the ones for the first few salts (getting printed). Most chars except two (bb farming zows and chows, and levelling maestro) in divinity/lab (all are div 20+ now). Do I stop divinity for now and start farming better equipment as my best armor rn is literally just dementia and I dont even have 4th anvil tab unlocked?
But there arent any bugs on that page
So I think you clicked the wron gitem when you did the 390m. That was your chopping cap
oh lord
Chopping stamp is a little higher leveled and skill level is higher than catching too so it would make sense the cap would be higher as well
o.O
but what u said checks out i ahdnt realized that , this is today log click
but thanks mistery solved. Now im not sad anymore
your first SS is from your log page yeah
You can be sad if you're too dumb though 
But hey, chocolate helps
Can confirm. I excel at all things dumb 
i am starting active bubo to liquid farm. what should i decant my h20 to? it's severely behind my other two due to being useful for most things hourly click
when i say liquid farm, i mean grind time farm
This is where I'm currently at
any new update news?
regen makes each cc session shorter, cap sloooowly works towards getting another gem per day. Pick your poison
after transfering the stats it is safe to trash these hats?
is rando or crystal island worth anything or go fractal fourth?
rando has more usefulnes in my opinion, but ppl also go for crystal
Thanks for the input
Isnt rando bugged?
Bugged how?
Not sure, I thought I saw someone talking about that the other day
i haven't noticed but if it is, then it is not worth
why is beast master so slowwwww
Looks like its not giving another event after the first time, but that could just be happening to a few people
soon i have done the vials ( iron bars) and thank god..it have taking so fricking loong ><
max lvl?
yes
only "need" like 40m
well on my dk.. it take like 30s max ( if i remember) on my vman.. like a lot more XD
Ok well I think I'll have to do it for some hours
i would say if you have enough to one shot the mobs that spawn 900M hp, you can kill the boss, however ir will take ages i do not recommend
So what Should I improve after I beat him
yes it will take a litte time
you gear
I know I entred on accident
I wanted 2nd diff
ahh xD
Well I want to push my main 5 main chars to last w5 map and then improve the armor on them all right now it's kinda scattered
I mean char 8 9 and 10 are mostly naked
well now you know what to do ๐
And my BB and BM are mostly staying in w4 lab and cooking
youd need 50b damage at min for last boss for atleast a good speed run
rather tahn aiming for nightmare w5 boss go get alchemy
I know but I wanted to kill the second difficulty for merit shop and didn't want to waste the keys
...
Anyway it crashed
this crash saved you hours 
3 hours and I was almost at 900000
no need to aim for the merit shop of 2nd boss difficulty
just get magma armor thatas better
you will onyly want divine for DR
4x dr is good?
not bad atleast you have DR
and prolly w5 questions isnt for you
Im farming pop rn
What would be best for 100k statue farming after DK? ES feels wishy-washy with the lag buildup
ES BUBO DK VMAN thats the one thats decent for 100k statue
Got this from 40 balls and 2 dices
Why im w5
With that low damage you need to go back w2-w4
But im w5
it's been a while, i'm having trouble here, I've got my BB in the kitchen in the right talent build, yet toolbox is sayin i need millions of ladles to upgrade next meal, iirc i had a bunch of cheap ones to upgrade and i dunno what i'm missing here
Being in w5 doesnt mean youre actually in w5 you just rushed it for the skills nothing else
Maybe chips
And lab jewels
And talents
hrm, jewels adjusted to purple, and i have skill eff chips
Those usuallt are the big things
Skill eff doesnt increase kitchen speed only laddle gains
i need to take this character to the library yes, but my talents didn't drop since i last played and i double checked im in cooking build, hrm
Also i dont know much about toolbox yet ive been only using IE
Now i updated to a decent value ๐ซก
On Toolbox, make sure to check the boxes for bonus ladles and kitchen jewel speed ๐
yarp
Is your Vman not in a spec with Bone Marrow? 
thatโs what i was about tosay
yo what is the cap to fill the forge? anything over 1M gmush kills already max the forge in 1 hour right?
Based on your stats, but yes generally
and dumping more points in that talent helps? prob not since it is capped by the forge itself
Right, the forge ore count is usually the problem
Is a 300k CC time bad 
Dreadlo is 1k ores every 41 minutes, forge cap is less than 30k. So you need let's say 41*30 = 1230 minutes of progress, or 73,800 seconds. If you have level 120 Smeltin' Every Day (30% chance for 3 seconds), that's approx 221k kills needed to full smelt each stack of Dreadlo Ore.
I think the ratios stay roughly the same.. Each lesser ore is half the amount required, but also half the duration, so yeah I'd say 1m kph is overkill lol
how u guys max this vial, 1 hour candy is only 500k wth ๐ญ
honestly no way i'm doing that
You could also just leave 3 archers at gmush and check every 3 minutes
yeah, i will check now how much a 2 min claim is
brave did the calc yesterday and he said around 32mil an hour I believe for iron bars
what should my prints be to hourly click my bubbles?
yeah 2 min claim is already maxxed
Are you asking for the amount or which material to print?
amount
whats with the lucky lads? 
Bubble costs cap at 1b, so.. 1b
...
Hes not wrong
just for the scarf
I'm not sure what other answer you want lol
Can you print 1b? Great, click every 1 hour.
Only print 500m? Great, click every 2 hours.
Only print 250m? Great, click every 4 hours.
Pretty basic math
ok so need to print 250m, because I have lab 2x print bonus and I can double print
its not happening anytime soon
by my bad calculations i could get 48M copper an hour claiming every 2 min with 3 archers, so i would need to do this for about 21hrs to get max copper vial 
83.3m with 2 slots of 6x printing to hit 1b
you get bored after an hour
i can't do it for 10 minutes forget it 
I'm bored just thinking about it ๐
Just cope and do it for 21 hr straight 
I tried it, got to 25mil iron bars, then cried internally
Printing bars when
lava should give us anything we can spend atoms or idk to increase forge cap then
i will wait for it
or if it atleast smelt properly
or an auto deposit feature
Doot 2.0 to auto deposit
Med are u still farming candies daily

why? 
Remember to turn on ur Midas and DR prayer like me 
I'm not that stupid 
I am 
tough life
How do u get so much tickets 
po 6
Ig my w4 stockpile is too small
I donโt got the mats 
Maybe I roll for all the skilling ones 

mfin statue farmin on es is soooo slow ;-;
Iโm too embarrassed to show u mine now 
Meh
im only getting like 144 is portal kills so its just ass
Oh
Construction and worship only takes like a day and a half
Just wait till you do box statues
Took me like 4 days
box and worship done
same for each
currenty like day 4 ish into constuction
then i got to do bullseye and then im done
Did u guys do the quest on every char 
not yet
Which one?
The 20k statues
anyone have a good image of an endgame trapping setup
Oh the 20k power statues isn't hard
have all chars with max traps
You just do it on DK
it is without a chip 
wanna spare me one
i got 3 chocos
I'm a choco hater
I would swap my spares for doublers
I have 5 omegas tho
the mfin star sign dbl
Oh I have 10 of those
Except I never got the top left one


Every char has a star sign doubler
is there a fast way to use post office pens i have 10k just waiting...
dw my gamba next one for sure has a choco chip 
mine is just late game not endgamer, endgame is way higher, also the value is higher than shown when you collect it is closer to 20M i think
I'd delete this
lol fr
Good lvls
u saw nothing med 
The amount of times I've had to tell people not to talk about that stuff 
It's a guaranteed 24h mute
about what
We don't mention it
ยช
Let's just say, illegitimate ways of playing
Ah
That reminds me
I have to make golden peanuts

I wish u could craft faster than 100x
at last

wait rly?
Yeah
god damn it
Yeah it doesn't cap at 100 then, just keeps going up
Wtf
good to know
Med with the tech
General game knowledge*
Iโve been sitting there holding my mouse while watching my show 
Unfortunate
idle skilling grind is the worst tho
Idle skilling is alot easier
trying to get teehee 15
Are you in the discord?
Did u filter out beans drop while farming statue med
After 300mil yeah I did
terrorjoker?
Bean slices... Could you mean slow particles?
is there a pin about con snapshot?
Does one not have Autoloot?
Does one not have a little brother + Ram companion?
When u sleep u canโt click it 
Then don't sleep
Solved your own problem
waking up to a laggy game, hours of active lost cause of desync
I got like 30 hours of desync just from penguins
My baby wakes my ass up every 2 hours anyway
I aint that old
We donโt have baby alarms 
I'm not 40 
To have a baby? Doesn't require that much age lmao
Heโs 39 
instead, waste that precious 8 hours of sleep on designing new life with its only point being to click every one a hour
He doesnโt have the baby money
I do have a baby, it's just made of metal and has 4 wheels
just sell the idleon account smh
(i am obligated by law to say that this is a joke)
I can hold about 6-8 hours of beans anyway
Iโm a hampter hater
My carry cap is horrible, idk how people have carry cap in the millions
I haven't had the joy of sleeping that long in a while so idk exactly these days
I shoulda farm some more tonight 
this for example
with prayer?
3 bigass components, ready?
He used a shitton of glassshards
Plus infinite star signs on the 3 carry caps ๐คท
im just proud of my souls
Souls? Whatโs that 
I think we have large differences in our definitions of shitton of glass shards
we also have this to have a little boost
True. That's only 13.6% though lol
any tips for card farming the world 5 resources? (logs/catching)
that prayer is aids tho
13.6 is fair game
You're absolutely incorrect. It is amazing.
Just never swap characters
but my afk gains
"I don't understand why they have better stack size"
refuses to use the thing that gives better stack size
I switch characters often 
You obviously only use it on your 1 active character...
Is there a point where it's not really worth trying to level up snail anymore due to its reset mechanic?
1 Active? 
idk if I can be bothered remembering to remove a prayer everytime I switch characters
Why are you switching characters constantly
i just put the prayer on my DK
balancing active needs
and only hop off for liquid
There are only 2, kinda 3 active needs..
for you probably
CCD, CC, and DK crystals.
you're way ahead of me 
I just put my DK on the altar to pray while I am on Vman/Bubo for an hour ๐คท
my DK stays on beans cuz idgaf
I got dk at kruk for keys
the rest is on lab? or leave on gmush?
I park mine at w5 so I can quick-claim sailing 
Vman keys when med
Farming hampters
some on gmush
bb cooking, vman skilling
I should go w2 catching on my vman
all these new clcks, i run out of liquid so fast 
450, then 900
900โฆ
i'm at the point where i need to find every useful bubble in alchemy, get it to 500, then look up the chart to see where the 90-95% markers are
Where is this chart to find this information?
375 - 400k
Manโฆ Iโm at 250k 
that is mainly bubble lvls right? 243 on roadkill and i get 290k
max book cranium should get you to at least 300k
i do have max book cranium an eye
this explains i think
No rift slug
Could be even better
eye gets +1 sec reduction?
You donโt need slug Scoli 
also why not go for 2k, this number is a bit painful tbh
Who says I'm not? I click it hourly.
you cant upgrade agile stamp past level 12 since you cant have 85 axes in your inventory right?
Scoli, you running the cc-aura-raise-cloud attack setup?
Stamp reductions from Atom Collider and Rift make it possible to go much higher
I see, good to know for the future
No. I get better numbers from CC > Raise > Aura > Cloud on Tremors personally. Like 20-30k better consistently
Ok, wonder why you arent getting 400k+ consistently then
u also use gloves right?
I should at least get the bubble that gives +2 to 100%
Im able to consistently get 400k-425k with a lower bubble
๐คท Not sure, haven't stressed about it. I see 400ks now and again
Are you also running 281 talent levels?
ah, that might explain it then
Yeah you have Slug lol
Sure, go for it
Donโt MISCLICK like me and hit the 5% instead 
Nobody can decide the value of your time except you. 100% is guaranteed, or you can gamble with cheaper options on the left side that could be faster, but could also be slower.
Scoli what level is ur golden food bubble
how long should i leave all characters at divinity?
I don't level that bubble intentionally, just let NBLB hit it.
Too expensive huh
Just.. not impactful enough
Nearly 4k atoms a pop for very measly increase. Rather stick with Bob.

You rascal
I don't think I have any bubbles above 200. Filthy noob.
If only I hadn't leveled Prowessary that last time
its okay youll catch up
i see your mr massacre is low, would it not be good to lvl at least 90% you would get a substantial mk per tier increase i believe
What do I care about MK for? lol
vman print
Bro it's 14% mk per tier difference
I cannot be asked to spam 300 levels worth of atoms for 14%
My Vman prints spore caps.. I do not care in the slightest right now ๐
So I need a sanity check quickly: how do I buy captains again?
does it just mean I cant afford it
I have a slot available
You can afford it, but might not have a slot available for a new captain?
W6?
Sure, but.. Why bother spending atoms on a bubble that does next to nothing for me now, when I could spend them on a bubble that DOES something for me now?
yeah so swapping characters, leaving to go w1 and back and ctrl + r all have done nothing to solve my captain buying problem. I bought a slot for one just now so I definitely have space, guess i'll wait til reset in 3 hours see if it's solved then
ty for help anyways
Weird ๐ฆ Sorry mate
no worries
also fair, I dumped a couple days of atoms into it just so I can forget about it
I already forgot about it ๐
I did put a few atoms into it while I could still bargain tag it lol
But once it still stayed 1b salts even at 90% tag, I was done
What Forge Capacity Upgrades are there?
W5 Achievment and Arcade Shop are the only ones I know off the top of my head
at what build rate/per hour should I go for atom colider?
Hey, by luck, is there someone with name in P here that i can ask for help few seconds ? ๐
do you need S maybe?
already did S
I can help with P. W4 town, Booky 11
Sure
If I wanna get a start on statue farming, best statue rate is DK crystal farming correct? Would having Midas Minded be best for this grind?
As long as I can 1 shot everything
tyty
For the statues from crystals yes
ES is better for some statues since they come only from mobs
Check pins, thereโs a guide
is there a guide for foraging speed? which pets to forage with etc
thank you
why are there so many frame drops with ping pong in game station
you need a 3080ti to run this game
im joking just some things in this game run terribly
i think auto loot ia must cuz the game will nearly crash if you dont check on it every 3 minutes running for monster loot
Golden spinkler worth it?
Yes
Are there any non outdated gem shop guides?
Where?
Thanks
Dear anyone know whether this Vman buff works properly? If yes, how it works exactly?
flex ๐
that's bubo not vman?
I dont know if it works properly but if it does it gives +all skill% to any character to the left of your bubo within the mainframe
Yes, I tried to test it in different ways but nothing changed to far...
Bubo skill but Vman skill can boost it.
ah right right i understand the question now... if only i knew the answer
did you try exchanging relative positions between characters (in the bonus/jewels hub, not vats) and checking?
Characters whose โheadsโ are to the left
right
could it perhaps depend on the target character also being connected? did you test using a bear-linked one?
Yes, tried and no impact. Also tried to personally stand him in lab (not just by the bear god), but same - nothing.
Should I try with someone personally in without god assigned?
Let me have a look
what skill are you testing with?
Catching specially
Same ... ๐ฆ
me unlocking world 5 = lava unlocking $80 from my checking account
works for me with mining
15.90x exp multi to 16.25x multi
Going to check again. Can 2 bubo confuse the logic?
no i get the same result with or without points in on 2nd bubo
Are you specifically looking at the exp mulitplier or just the xp in afk screen?
im doing exp multi in stat window 15.9x > 16.25x that being said it says 41% on bubo...
That buff might be so insignificant to you, that the xp value in afk screen won't change
Maybe Lunci is just looking at afk info
oh possibly
and or the character may not be to the left
i have my bubo here since its basically as far right as you can get in the lab console
(worm hat is bubo)
Are you keeping in mind +44% means +0.44 not multiply by 1.44
Best spot for Bubo 
for me yes, bubo says 41% but mining test shows 15.9 > 16.25 which is .35
Ah
lets gooo
No need for 2 bubo once you can reach the last node without the purple tube
Probably
yea its good for powerleveling, feel like bubo is faster than sorc
But some of those npc sprites in future content blog give me w6 theme vibes
might be talent levels tho lol
Some definitely are for W6
Like, the bamboo matches the misty portal vibe more than volcano
One image had W6 in file name or some shit
W6 + 3 new Classes
Why not make it w6-8 while weโre at it
I have it on good authority todayโs update is w6-8
Do we know what will be in the next update ? ๐ฎ
Totally trustworthy news
No we do not
Reasonable guess is w5 npcs and quests

it could but do u believe ?
hopefully weekly challenges
Coping plausible guess is w6
w4 quests were like 2 npcs right?
Probably not w6
additional ones i mean
There is a third, just no functionality for the third one yet
ahhh
depends on how much he's been working, guess its possible to be w6 if he has been grinding hard the last 2 weeks
as reference
lets believe
Has it really only been 2 weeks? It feels like it's been so much longer lol.
Could have been doing w6 in the background with other updates
2 weeks since the last future content post at least
as my favorite commercial once said why not both
w5 npcs.quests and w6 ๐
The bean grind has warped our perceptions

Both in statues and answering โwhere to farm statuesโ endlessly
cant wait for weekly trial to earn cosmetics wow
I haven't been able to bean grind much yet. Don't have Choco, and won't til December 
Fr, just look it up on YouTube lol. Griffy has a great video on it. Or check pins, which is probably faster.
And here I am planning to get my chars set-up for a week long grind while Iโm on holidays..
Don't worry about your characters that much. Enjoy your holiday, you can get back to the grind later 
lol if you were at a boss when the lava message dropped
the entire message was behinf the hp bar
Lol sounds interesting
He's probably gonna swap the arcade too just because I'm only a few levels from maxing DR 
time to grind some bosses for gems then lol
Hold up, why does 10T damage get its own unique look in the inventory (like 10M) but 10B doesn't? Bring justice to the Billion Boys!
Oh, you're right. I should work on that a bit more lol.
i want a special look for 10Q but that aint happenin prob
Thats lavas way of motivating you to get 10T damage 
Just wait til W6, they'll blow QQ out of the water
Heck, I think people went from a couple hundred million to trillions when W5 came out, so who knows
At the current pace there will be people getting close to that damage before W6 even gets here
yeh im hoping the w6 final mob has at least like 700T Hp
It's all cause of one little frend named "Fury Relic" (and others)
It wont even have close to that much hp lol
Please no... some of us more casual players don't have billions of damage to kill nightmare Kruk even.
Lava isnt going to balance the game around quick slap atomers
Also, check out the scaling on boss health recently. It's actually insane.
From the nightmare mode having 2B to the normal mode having 100B
i think w6 mobs will have 1-10T hp just looking at scaling from w4 to w5
Not to mention NChizoar and NTroll have the same health -_-
True, but all you need is to be able to keep the moles off kruk and you win
As soon as ES can kill moles with the meteor shower you get w6
balance it around Bob atomers
Do people really think w6 is coming out?
yeah those guys are too strong
Itโs plausible enough weโre excited and expecting to be disappointed
No its not coming out for at least another 2-3 months and thats probably pretty optimistic
Mostly itโs because the npcโs teased look w6 themed
balance it around beans...
All things should be balanced around bob
I don't believe in optimism, optimism brings disappointment
There are already leaks what the update is, its not w6 lmao
lava sometimes preps images well ahead of time so it's not that unheard of
honestly give me something to grind other than beans, im burning out
Click cogs
That's kind of ridiculous. The game gets a super hard difficulty curve when you hit W5 for people just playing the game and haven't been waiting for months for the next world.
grind liquid rate 
I know, thus excited and expecting to be disappointed
NM troll has 2B Hp, tremor wurms have 1.5B Hp. so since NM kattle has 1Q, im thinkin final w6 is 75% of that so 750T
Chem gives its tier squared in time, so 1, 4, 9, 16, 25, 36 hours
Yeah the curve goes up but W5 also has an insane amount of power creep and you have to account for whatever new power creep will be introduced in W6 too
How hard did you swipe though ๐
idk but a grindy idle game like this should take longer to complete, i've only been playing not even 4 months and all I have left to do is completionist tasks
I dont think those health numbers are unreasonable
You can go from 0 to w5 in a few weeks
The current record I've seen is W5 in 9 days with only buying autoloot
Needs knowledge of whatโs good and not
The game isnt hard if you make good choices
People make it hard on themselves by neglecting things
depends how shit your account is at the start of w5
Depends entirely on the rest of your account progress
was that during an event with a ton of free candies?
a new world typically has the first 2-3 monsters be comparable to the end of the previous world so we can probably expect the first mob to start at around 1b hp tbh
Whereโs that go back and fix your account checklist
Ok but your games still not up to speed still gonna have to lab and divinity everyone to 75 and crap like that
It might have been I dont remember the exact time but even without an event it still doesnt really make the game hard
True, but a few months for a complete newbie is reasonable was my point
Only two left! Ignoring T7 lol
also true and impressive nonetheless
Its an incremental game. Playing for a few months to make progress should be expected
If you dont like that then you need a new genre of game
i think 750T is reasonable since we gonna get more buffs to dmg in w6 anyway
the progress shouldn't be just more juice for existing content though
id like to see w8 take like a year to reach
Need a new skill that things lead forward to rather than folding back so much
what should I focus to increase my ES damages ?
Yeah I feel like anyone expecting the W6 mobs to have health in the trillions is being wildly optmistic
Alchemy, talent levels, gear, eclipse skulls, card levels, prayer optimisetion
Hard to tell from that screenshot what you need
based on NM kattle id say its easily clearing the T's
just look at the scaling from troll to tremor wurms
If we go based on nm kattle it would imply that it doesnt though
its 75%
Pretty sure nm kruk is just to slow us down and keep us occupied
yeah, right. Can't find the website that was usefull to share profile and stuff level
why wouldnt the end of w6 be designed to slow us down too then
Idleon efficiency or idleon toolbox
Because your perspective of "us" is wildly skewed
i got it when i was least expecting it, finally ๐ฅน
w4 stilted seekers are 20m hp and w5 tremor wurms are 1200m hp, I could see a jump being made to 1000b hp for last mob of w6
Its designed to slow casual players down
You are a quick slap atomer
You dont count in lavas eyes
You never will. Welcome to endgame
Only for one day :<
Endgamers dont matter
U can only hold 15 plants??
Yeah saying no mobs will break in 1T is probably a bit of an exaggeration but regardless W6 progression is going to be a joke
yeah i just hope its more than like 2 weeks of content when it drops
If it takes me more than a day to clear most/all of W6 then casual players better not even acknowledge that W6 exists
I'll gladly take multikill w6 day 1
Thats just the reality of endgame. Endgamers arent palying the same game as everyone else
Lava has to pick who to balance around
And everyone else gets to cope with it
yep, i only bought 1 of the sprout thingy in gem shop
all they gotta do is reach it though for the skills, i dont see a problem making the final maps of w6 take forever
all he can really do to endgamers is slow them down with timegates and RNg (see: w5 skills)
Ooooo
Same thing was said going from W4 to W5 as well
lava's goal with endgamers should be to give them enough content until the next update drops
i enjoyed how w5 actually took a bit of time to complete
yeah i hope w6 takes even longer
If W5 took you time to complete then it means you werent endgame
Endgamers were pushing wurms in like two days
fully expecting 100m+ portals end of w6 tbh
Get ruby cards from rift and more eclipse skulls will help damage the best Iโd say
Youโre higher than me in a few places so rift should be easy and eclipsing w1 should be simple too but good damage still
yeah took me like a week
Like dont get me wrong I would love to see W6 be a big difficulty curve and actually have relevant content
yeah, that's what I can't do, my ES dps is too low to beat 50 worms :/
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But I've also been playing the game long enough to know who lava prioritizes the game around

the dooters? 
I did rift 46 with my ES damage at 70b
End game is accepting that you are an after thought in lavas eyes and its up to you to make your own goals
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Are you making the portal on a tiny island over to the left?
endgame is already beating lava's intended game and you are just juicing until next world
on a platform on the right
Endgame is hitting 10k% exp on your cog board 
Thatโs your problem
as far as I'm concerned, beating nightmare kruk on 10 chars is "beating the game" cuz there's no real goals that aren't just juicing your account
@magic estuary make the portal on a small platform to the left of the map that way the normal mobs wonโt pull the ES attention
You may also need some talent level upgrades to help spread that damage around to the mobs better
Definitely have the raw damage to make it though
will try that, thanks
What are some bettwr ways to increase atrifact odds in sailing cause i get like .5 to 1% on the first island and havent gotten one of the 2 remaining ancients i need in like 2 weeks
Are relics always unlocked in order left->right?
there's not many sources of artifact chance %. Mostly other artifacts, and some shiny pets
No, the order unlock is random
Ty just coincidence for me then
technically fractal island has artifact % too but noones really making use of that yet
by the time you get to fractal, you should be mostly done with artifacts unless you are one of those recent guys who rushed to w5
i'll take what i can get
fractalโs 1.2x is additive to tusk artifactโs bonus. So basically its like one more tier of tusk
And fractal island may get higher priority if next update say have new flurbo items
๐คจ
I like where this is going
companion 2.0
and goddamn cant we get a little spoiler lava you killing me dude
question
I have mantra on my divinity characters
will it not show how much xp I gave to the other character?
nope
you need to put the style in every char you have
yes dont worry ot works
aight
if you want you can stay 1hour and come in
oh shit
how do i get green gaming bits?
game 100x harder
:I
or 10e9x harder
i am stoopid and tired, please elaborate
it's just more zeroes
i just got the fauxory tusk; 1% artifact find chance per sailing lv, total bonus 0, and my sailing level is 11, so shouldn't it say 11%?
New artifacts needs map refresh to update numbers
Refresh map for new artifacts
ok, thanks, now it works
Bird too fast for my slow thumbs
update soon?
update soon...
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Thats cursed
blursed
just 4 tools left ๐ at least until its time to min/max with kattle stones ๐
Toolbox is so much nicer than IE imo
yee tool box is v good
Maybe might as well go for 225 for any future bonus addition
Is there an obol tier list anywhere?
someday we may get new better pet arena bonuses xDDD
Do infinite star signs apply negatives as well as positive effects of the sign?
Mr No Sleep
-6% AFK Gain +30% Carry Cap
Does this -6% apply and can never be turned off?
no
infinite do NOT apply negatives
thats why they are so good
onceyou get them the negatives no longer apply and you can double the benefit of 3 that you equip if you have the chip
it even says in-game it doesnt trigger negative effect
Where does it say that, I missed it
In the rift node
Thank you
topbird question, does that 30% carry cap would negate most of the negative fromt he prayer or are the carry cap stuff applied first the negtive multi and then the possitive multi??
I havent tested it but most positive buffs are separate pool from negative debuffs so usually they are multiplicative with each other
So if you like say have 50% and -30%, its usually +50% * -30% than being an addition +20%
What is the best way of farming farming
Usually a single source of +30% wont be enough to negate the negative from prayer as there are much more sources of positive buffs (like say 200% in total), and additive 30% buff will not be able to off set the negative that reduces all existing buff
farm until farming farming is farmed for farming the farming of farming
Couldn't have said it better myself 
how does the cactus work in gaming?
50b 
?
its been like that for 2-3 hours, the 'soon' isnt so soon
Maybe it's just QoL and fall event
soon in lavas language is like in the next 2 to 4 weeks
this year
Lava time is indeed usually twice than what he says
Well in this case I think soon is probably accurate because a new beta dropped a couple hours ago which means he was already able to address whatever he needed to in the first beta
Lava time is a bit better than valve time though
crystal
crystal unless you are random event enthusiast that does random event everyday
Just FYI if your on mobile fractal is glitched
LIKE IF IM ON MOBILE FRACTAL DOESNT GIVE BONUSES?
can i stack hours?
can i not enter it?
it acts as fish afk
where do you play Poing?
Unlocked through gaming
i have it unlocked
ah so if i go there on pc then swap onto mobile the next day ill get fish xp
you can still get fractal from irl hours spent in town, but on mobile you cant candy for fractal progress
There is a game controller that shows up, click on it. If you just unlocked it, try switching screens if it hasn't loaded in
And fractal isnt supposed to use irl hours
it shows up randomly?
the required hours are obviously designed for candy, not real time
No but if you just unlocked it, that might be why it isn't showing up. It is in the same area as your plants, squirrel etc
i didnt just unlock it
Screenshot your plant page, I don't know why the poing controller wouldn't show up
no gamepad
You don't have it unlocked
You didnt just unlock it so there will be no controller
Go to imports page
then hwo do i have this
Iirc pong comes after log in imports and you don't even have log
You dont
or is "My" refering to Lava
โMy scoreโ is lava
All achievements show up regardless if you have the system unlocked
omg lol
โTime of coding thisโ unless you coded idleon
So how exactly did you think you had a high score if you didn't even know how to play pong lol
because i took a break for like 9 month. couldnt remember if i played it when world 5 came out once
Candies and stuff glitch and think your fishing
i just thoguth that meant I had that high score before he implimented that acheivement
need to level reading skills

w6 update today