lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[iron citrus]

Could have been so.kuch quicker lol if camped bubonic

[sacred verge]

sure il come

[fallen torrent]

Daln pizza w4

[sacred verge]

gimme a min 🙂

[fading adder]

is it normal for voidwalker to be super weaksauce?

[fallen torrent]

sure brb toilet real fast

[fading adder]

like... a couple mil dmg per hit

[sacred verge]

im here

Pmaxy

[silver forum]

can i join too?

[errant stratus]

does this actually do nothing? or is it like the breeding one for increasing breeding exp?

[old portal]

can someone answer ty

[fallen torrent]

@sacred verge @twin token @silver forum yes wait a minute. Wad about to lose the fight i had to run hahaha

[twin token]

K

[sacred verge]

what fight?

[twin token]

Can u re-inv

[fallen torrent]

Toilet one.

[errant stratus]

build the best trap on 1 char. then all chars have that trap via the trapping drone.

[old portal]

but theres something i need on the different chars to get the max ammount of traps right?

[errant stratus]

i mean i think u just upgrade them to max placments

[fallen torrent]

alright Hesham who you

[errant stratus]

and from there its about whats within the trap and chars level right?

[silver forum]

spdrunah <.<

[old portal]

yeah meaning i need max placement traps on all chars and 1 best trap?

is that how it works

[errant stratus]

yeah

then its up to you on next step

you can always put junky mobs into traps besides for ur Vman

[old portal]

royal is the max trap placable right

[errant stratus]

put highest exp ones in there

unsure

[old portal]

yeah farming 1m blob fish for all chars

to get royal traps

[errant stratus]

ima newbie too

but my clans helps me alot

with info

[old portal]

anyone here knows whats the best trap setup overall

which critters to trap for overall gains

when i need all critters

[errant stratus]

bloobs should be best exp

i think its green trap for exp best

[old portal]

iam talking about all trap gains

what to use for trapping gains not exp gains

[errant stratus]

meaty is my current

[weary granite]

just place them with hunter for efficiency, 20 min traps are most efficient I think but super tedious

[old portal]

iam looking for 10-24 hours traps

that will give me the best ammount of critters

aight thanks guys i guess no ones on to help me rn ill just do other stuffs

i dont need any critters atm thats why iam asking the best critter gains for overall gains

[teal lynx]

Start Greenstacking Critters if you haven't yet

[old portal]

surely i cant farm 50m critters right?

[teal lynx]

Else go for Critters that u need for Vials

[old portal]

for just 1 bubble

yeah ill get greenstack for now then do vials on specific chars

does beastmaster still gives a good ammount of critter gains if i use him to place traps?

[agile obsidian]

yes

[teal lynx]

I believe that's the case

[agile obsidian]

you either use BM or vman for trap placements

BM for most critters, vman for most xp

[old portal]

aight ill just craft both best trap for them

nvm its 10k nullo

ill just get 1 for now

is species epoch account wide bonus?

[ocean fox]

Does anyone know the best combination of chips for sampling, like is the percent efficiency always gonna be better than base or is there a specific combination that's optimal

[old portal]

the doublers are really big

and for base and total % jsut test which gives you more effciency on the character screen

youd want all the doublers except for the chain one then afk gains and eff increases

[ocean fox]

Ah gotcha

[twin token]

All doublers and afk gains are the best combo

[old portal]

chain doubler if you have a good chain

damn why this 10k nullo too expensive

is hampters big use are only the the weapons and mat bag? am i missing somethign else other than the vials

[sacred verge]

like weps and bags aint enough? lol

[old portal]

idk if i would farm more thats why iam asking

[worthy gyro]

Greenstack

[teal lynx]

Farm 1B Hampters

[old portal]

i only have this ill upgrade if theres no other use for hampters

so its only bags and weapons right and this vial

[agile obsidian]

Yep

[sacred verge]

get that one to lvl 4 for bubo dmg

[raw tundra]

mugmuh's quest gonna take some time? also should i move them all here instead of lab?

[misty spindle]

yes

[teal lynx]

The Pins have a nice guide

[dapper bridge]

Put all there until you get either doot or goat god then put them in lab again

[worn frost]

how long is the cooldown for vman speed run please?

[worn frost]

do 9 in div and keep one active, push for goat god then you can do both at the same time

[old portal]

About a day

[worn frost]

Okay thanks

[manic moat]

What should be the focus?

dmg? exp?

skill?

[gloomy dragon]

does the divinity style work even if it stay in lab?

[fallow aurora]

yes

[gloomy dragon]

nice

[fallow aurora]

only if your linked to goat god tho

[tame walrus]

First time getting log flipper and i got to the second last stage. 1.5+ days progress. What is average that you will get?

[fallow aurora]

"This is what I figured after some time using it:

The cards flips twice, the first 3 attempts, click on cards that were stars during the 2 flips.

After the third success, choose a card that was a skull in the first flip and a star on the second, you can get 6 cards consistently that way, after that I don't even care to keep going, just click anything, that's like 2 days of progress if you get 6 cards anyways." This is what I found on reddit

[old portal]

Skill eff

[fallow aurora]

I just spread the upgrades evenly because why not

[old portal]

The log is just pure rng the skull you see on those flips means nothing cuz of the pixel split second diff that what ik

[tall horizon]

Card display is purely visual

[old portal]

Class exp and total dmg is kinda meh

Base is decent but mostly skill eff for better gains

[sharp igloo]

The base stats were not as good as I thought. I checked my wis before and after buying it, and it literally raised my total wis by like 1 or 2.

[fallow aurora]

[old portal]

Maybe bad base increases?

You have low wiz?

[sharp igloo]

I have over 20k wis, so I would think it would raise it by more than that

[old portal]

Aight then maybe it is that bad lol

But prolly 1 base wiz id not just 1increase if you have 20k wiz just you did something else

[tall horizon]

Alch bubbles are not base, they're total.

[fallow aurora]

ok maybe spreading the upgrades evenly wasn't such a good idea

[old portal]

Not alch bubble tho talking about the shimmer base wiz

[sharp igloo]

Were talkin about the shimmer boosts

[tall horizon]

Oh

Ignore me then lol

[worn frost]

are there any good afk mob print sheets about or nah?

[sharp igloo]

Wdym by afk mob print sheets?

[worn frost]

how to get the most kills per hour

like what armour/chips/food

i know someone made one AGES ago but not sure about recent

[sharp igloo]

Oh, Im not sure

[worn frost]

ahh thanks anyway :D

[sharp igloo]

Lol np, Id say use golden nomwhiches, speed potions, the best armor you have, doubler chips, afk trinkets, afk% capes/nametags, afk% starsigns, doubpe starsign chips, possible midnight stopwatches over opals in some cases, afk fight gain chip, and maybe some damage/mob respawn chips

I usually double the fight afk% amorak card, and the sluggma card, with boops and damage cards in between

[worn frost]

i thougth about that but sometimes a certain chip can make all the difference. I have to resample 5 toons tonight so didn't feel like testing things out

[tall horizon]

this is generally the best set up.

[sharp igloo]

Wouldnt you want 2 doubler chips over 2 respawn chips?

[tall horizon]

Do you mean card doubler?

[sharp igloo]

Yeah

[tall horizon]

there are multiple doublers, need to be specific 😛

[sharp igloo]

Haha fair enough

[tall horizon]

Doubled boop is worse than more respawn (assuming you can benefit from it)

[sharp igloo]

What about double sluggma?

[fast verge]

its time to push

[tall horizon]

boop would be better than that most likely lol

respawn is incredibly powerful

and given onyx statues, ms is a lot easier to come by so most people can use a good chunk of it now.

[sharp igloo]

I think sluggma raises my gmush kills per hour more than boop, but that might just be because my boop card is only 2 stars lol

[tall horizon]

what tier is your suggma

[sharp igloo]

5 or 6*

[tall horizon]

ah, ya not a fair comparison lol

[fast verge]

wait whats toons what
whats the topic on again

[tall horizon]

Generally, any info I give out is going to assume best possible

[tall horizon]

toon = character

[fast verge]

ah

[tall horizon]

just another term from other games

[fast verge]

what cardset up is this used in

like ik its for sampling but what cardset do people use for it anyways

[sharp igloo]

What level do you think you should stop bubble 2 at? 2.9x, 2.95x or is it worth it to go for more?

[worn frost]

why not the wood chips

[worn frost]

trying to get the best kills per hour so i can sample on vman/hunter

[fast verge]

mk

[tall horizon]

Woodchips can be good, depending on your stage of the game. You'd have to compare for yourself. As you progress, you get a lot of MK so woodchips are less impactful.

[fast verge]

oh yeah when should I let the first 3 pets die

for r 200

[worn frost]

ahh okay, thought they were always good

[sick sentinel]

You prob dont need to anymore and it would be hard to do naturaly unless you have alchemic unlocked for looter

[fast verge]

i see

yeah i had alchemic

and they actully just died as we speak

[sick sentinel]

Then they will die eventually on their own

[tall horizon]

something like this. Can swap out the damage/stat % cards as needed to hit different mk tiers.

[opaque sun]

if baddum goes to like 10k+, then maybe consider killing it

[fast verge]

i see
yeah no makes sense i just run full damage

[sharp igloo]

Would someone with 1bil+ oak samples mind sharing a screenshot of their purple bubbles from IE?

[fast verge]

oh this is gonna take a while

[tall horizon]

lil hard to read lol

[fathom lagoon]

The last 10 lvls take like 8 mins + a piece lol

But it’s worth wrapping it all up

[opaque sun]

also stuff like if you have been doing w1 statue farming, stamps, maxed out other bonuses like cards matters for samples

[sharp igloo]

Thanks. Looks like I should focus on 7 for a couple days

[fathom lagoon]

Ban

[tall horizon]

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[verbal canyon]

gerrard0450#0 was muted. | advertising

[fathom lagoon]

Bro did that with the mod in the chat 😂

[opaque sun]

“how did the agent reach you”
“from idleon discord”
“good, youre hired”

[vagrant mountain]

what is your chopping statue at?

[vagrant mountain]

ty

[hoary light]

does the drop rate buff from ES apply ot your character or to the kill? like could I sample at a 200 kill wormhole and get way more than sampling with no wormhole?

[opaque sun]

to the specific mob (wormhole mob) you killed

[tall horizon]

Samples are based off afk screen, wormhole does not interact with it

[opaque sun]

That is why it doesnt get applied to crystals unlike how orbs do

[hoary light]

darn, I figured but that woulda made my samples on him explode lol

[opaque sun]

And samples doesnt care drop rate anyway so doesnt matter

you have vman for that

[hoary light]

oh it doesn't? weird I guess I never really looked into what effects sampling

[opaque sun]

vman’s void radius is a mk buff that happens only in speed run, and that affects samples

[tall horizon]

(for the most part)If afk screen doesnt change, samples dont change

[fallen flax]

I've got Larry to 532 and Mage is best to 500. Where should I focus my atoms next? Hocus Choppus (210)?

[opaque sun]

For sampling purpose, drop rate is fixed at 1x

[tall horizon]

tasty tasty void samples 🤤

[opaque sun]

id keep going on larry

[sharp igloo]

Is your boron level max?

[opaque sun]

100% chance to proc larry isnt even the “90%” effect of bubble

[sharp igloo]

Id also keep going on larry, but only after you max boron, since larry is kind of expensive atomwise, and you wanna be getting 50 a day as soon as possible

[fallen flax]

Boron is 13/20. And how far should I go on Larry before other bubbles?

[tall horizon]

atoms on larry beyond 501 is such a waste. Just wait until hourly prints, long return on investment, spend atoms elsewhere.

[opaque sun]

Like 108% is the 90% effect, but considering how important larry is, id even go to 115%

Its like a week or two worth so i dont think its that of a waste considering the long term benefit

[tall horizon]

its way longer than a week or two

[old portal]

Would half of this skilling bubbles get me almost 500m or more since the scaling is bad? Iam at 200m sample with lower than 1/4 of your bubbles

[opaque sun]

Unless you plan to quit game by 2024

[fallen flax]

I'm sitting at 3m dementia sample atm.

[tall horizon]

You're looking at months to even break even from the atoms spent on 501+ larry

meanwhile those could be spent elsewhere and get immediate gains, that snowball into other gains

[opaque sun]

Its like 100 levels a day, 700-1400 gets it to a okay level

[worn frost]

doot can suck my dick

spent 500 after him and still need to spend another 200 to gurantee it

[opaque sun]

Like if you have bubbles that can reach nice bonuses with 10-20 levels sure. But if you dont have any idea just go larry imo

[fallen flax]

So, max Boron, then Larry to 109-115%, then?

[opaque sun]

if you dont have any goal and no idea

[sharp igloo]

Depends on your other stuff like talent levels and statues and whatnot, but for reference, I just resampled oak an hour ago with these bubbles and my ES got 600m, while my bubos each got 400m (I have better talent levels on my ES)

[opaque sun]

If you know what you lack for samples, you can dabbles in those for some easy buffs.

Larry is like ‘may not be the best, but you cant go wrong with it’

[vestal delta]

uh...am I screwed? my slab is missing these

[opaque sun]

I would also maybe spend a few in cranium cooking (cooking roadkill) or set up a toilet paper print for hourly click on them

[fallen flax]

Right now I'm looking for more chopping samples for more atoms. I have 100m oak logs on BC and ES have about 70m each.

[opaque sun]

Gonna be doing lot of hourly clicks means you want to shorten the liquid filling sessions

[tall horizon]

There are honestly too many factors to really say for certain. Alchemy is incredibly important, but so are statues, boost foods, afk%, stamps, talents (max), skill levels, tools

[fallen flax]

Also, any tips on getting more W3 statues? I'm getting like 1.2-1.5k a night letting my ES run with 14.22 DR and 8.2b max dmg. >_<

[pulsar cliff]

Candies? W3 suck. Same with accuracy and fishing

[fallen flax]

1 hr candy got me 9 statues. XD

[sharp igloo]

Im eclipsing wood mushrooms right now, and I think i might just barely get to 20k acc statues by the time im done lol

[fallen flax]

Ouch.

[gray thicket]

holy cow

[hoary light]

2 questions, what is eclipsing, never heard of that before, and what event drops the skilling orbs that buffs skill speed?

[vestal delta]

eclipse skulls are a rift unlock, 1b deathnote kills on a mob
season events drop the special boost foods, probably one coming for fall or winter

[hoary light]

Ohhh I'm dumb eclipse skulls yeah I'm also farming eclipse skulls rn so that's an extra dumb question lol

is there any way to bulk craft or do I have to sit here and hold down the button to craft 3.6million peanuts?

[untold saffron]

Crafting from inventory is faster than crafting from storage if you can do that

[hoary light]

very good to know

[untold saffron]

Storage has a speed cap on it but inventory crafting doesn't, or it's much much higher

New milestone on the kitchen slave

[true obsidian]

Goharut +5% afk gain for all char, does it stack? Like 2 char equip goharut = +10%?

[tall horizon]

Unlimited afaik, the longer you hold, the more it crafts per tick. Craft from storage is superior for exp though, just fyi.

[tall horizon]

stacks

[vestal delta]

anyone have ideas on how I might get these two slab entries? I've completed the quests on all characters but they didn't register I guess 🫠

[iron knot]

Go to quest in quest log

Click on receive quest item again or some shit

Maybe, not sure

[vestal delta]

there's no option for that on this quest

[iron knot]

Oooof

Delete char lol

[vestal delta]

oh god that actually might be an idea

[zealous niche]

Don’t think you can delete a char

[vestal delta]

[zealous niche]

Pretty sure we’re stuck waiting for the next char slot to become available

[vestal delta]

cries in forever -2 slab

[zealous niche]

With you there

-5

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/6pHL0UN.png

-1 sadge

[vestal delta]

this can't be real...
from the maestro questline 💀

[tall horizon]

Lava gave that to everyone

[fast verge]

is there anypoint going farther

[vestal delta]

I don't have it though 🫠

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/F4cjLSF.png

are these unobtainable? were they in limited shop?

[zealous niche]

There was a trick to make the peanut refresh

[tall horizon]

have you done the questline?

[junior arrow]

nah once you beat round 200 there is nothing left

[fast verge]

k

[vestal delta]

yeah I have vman

[zealous niche]

Something like kill biggie on mman/vman

[vestal delta]

aight lemme try that quickly

[zealous niche]

Been a while since we had that question though

[vestal delta]

no peanut

[tall horizon]

send an image of your vman and missing slab slot please.

[shy flame]

is the slab kinda wonky? it says I've only found like two npc tokens and yet I have at least 12 in my inventory rn

[tall horizon]

items dont register unless you drop/loot them or have them in inventory when moving through a portal. If you have them in the ui that doesnt count

[tall horizon]

slab not ie

I cant report a bug using a third party site lol

[vestal delta]

sec let me find where peanut should be

[zealous niche]

Open the slab on your vman to make it easy

[shy flame]

thanks, just added 20 items to the slab to get me over the 1k line

[tall horizon]

perfect, ty

[tall horizon]

nice, congrats

[shy flame]

I can't believe part of working on end game is buying grip tape and crude oil just to gain the approval of a rock

[vestal delta]

do you guys print beach logs as well for hourly clicks?

[solid epoch]

thats a big one, wis bubble 1

all 3 bubble 1's u should hourly at least tho

[old portal]

Do you guys even do world quests at all?

Should i start
Actually doing it for all?

[solid epoch]

i still havent gotten the w2, w3, or w4 trophy's yet, but ive started working on some of the quests more recently just for more skill eff from the star talent

[old portal]

Yeah i dont have any of those trophy

Also KoF trophy

[solid epoch]

bumped my 10th character up from 90 completed quests to 187 today

because im about to resample on him, once i get 2 more max talent books

might push to 200+ completed quests too for that tad bit of extra eff

i dont have KoF either lol

https://i.imgur.com/FGjIgKa.png

so far ive gotten 8 completions and i started playing the game 2+ years ago

[old portal]

I have no completion with as well with 2+ years

[shy flame]

I have a premium hatifier or whatever, anything I should save it for?

[zealous niche]

Whatever you find aesthetic

[shy flame]

honker hat it is

[sick sentinel]

I like my orange hard hat

[opaque sun]

hard hat to mark which of your DK is the main construct guy i suppose

[shy flame]

do you not get stats from premium hats? like if you made a lava core helm premium would you not get the stats?

[opaque sun]

you lose most of the stats, but i think you get to carry over some dungeon stats that lava didnt code in to “remove when premiumfy”

[vagrant mountain]

[dapper prism]

New Pet power, 96k to 118k 😄
https://i.imgur.com/909GFsI.png

[opaque sun]

updated all my spice pets to 100k+, going to update my combat teams that im not sure when they will see action

[dapper prism]

I keep forgetting about updating my space pets tbh

[vagrant mountain]

im so close

[fathom lagoon]

What the hell there’s a panda pet? Lol

[cursive forge]

only Lapez can be put in ultimate cogs, should I put it to start producing or put it back to nooby cogs

[modern plaza]

that afk gains rate, just howww...

[vestal delta]

should I be spamming eggs on cooldown to try and raise breeding level for more pet power?

[minor pier]

I gotta be missing something about the log game. I watch the cards spin and pick cards that never show skulls, but after 3 or 4 rounds I always get a skull. is it possible to go beyond that?

[shy flame]

yeah, but fartherst I've gone is maybe 7 rounds

Seems like it adds one skull a round so, what, 9 rounds max? maybe it just keeps one star after everything else is skulls

[modern plaza]

from what i remember, spamming eggs is best for only trash, letting them turn into higher lvl eggs gives more exp and pet power... and you can be more lazy lol

regardless, breeding is one of the slowest in the game...

[minor pier]

its a bit of a bummer that the cards don't actually matter. if it never shows a skull and you still get a skull why even have them?

[vestal delta]

yeah, I just click one card until it fails...the odds are always equal

[vestal delta]

ah okay good to know, thanks!

[shy flame]

I think I'm just missing something when the card flips happen. I tend to do better when I'm ignoring specific cards and instead focusing on where skull clusters are and picking away from them

I have had a few cards I swore were not skulls that turned out to yes in fact be skulls but I'm not sure if the game is pulling a sneaky or if my eyes are just a bit slow

[vestal delta]

pretty sure that's 100% just gambler's fallacy...it really is pure random 😂

[minor pier]

ya I can say definitively that I've watched the cards spin, never show a skull, and still get a skull

but only after the 2nd spin

[shy flame]

I get like +1 day progress around half the time, either there is something to it or it is gambler's fallacy and I think I deserve a free lucky lad trophy

[minor pier]

wish I could give those away. 9x drop rate on my DK and I usually get home to 2 or 3 of them in my bags

[opaque sun]

the card shuffle is pure cosmetic and has nothing to do with the outcome

[shy flame]

Has Lava confirmed that on dev stream or something?

[opaque sun]

code wise what you choose is same

choosing top right is same as bottom left as it just does a roll. And each consecutive success raises the chance of a skull

So you just wasting time trying to check a digitalized visual effect that has no impact in your choice

[shy flame]

That's honestly fascinating, wish it didn't take 22 hours to come back so I could just run the game a bunch and see how the code functions in practice

[opaque sun]

weirdly tho, the red dice rolls of arcade you have some control over it if like say you have a very laggy pc

[minor pier]

oh yeah, I had a day where I got the timing down on that, landed a 6 for 5 consecutive rolls

[opaque sun]

So there are some inconsistencies of what rolls are just cosmetic, or what are actually representing what you do

[shy flame]

I fall in and out of sync with the timing for arcade die all the time

[gusty wedge]

Hey so for anyone who knows on the 3d printer if you have the God and the lab bonus it it supposed to show purple or a gold star on the printer

[opaque sun]

I try not to look at arcade red dice as if i click looking at it, it means im going to repeat the same failure of clicking at the same timing as before

[shy flame]

I think in the lab bonus it mentions that it won't display different but dw it's there

[opaque sun]

The visual may glitch (just the colors) when you stop DK farming just at the moment the color flickers

[gusty wedge]

Ahh ok thank you lol that exactly what I was doing lol

[opaque sun]

When DK makes an orb kill, it updates it printer bonus, which the game tries to update the printer color too.

[shy flame]

I tend to be thinking of the first psychology experiment by Wilhelm Wundt; am I clicking the die when I see the 6 or when I think I see the 6

[opaque sun]

Going back to a DK and farming again will usually fix the color issue

[gusty wedge]

I have king doot so I was like I better have the good one

[opaque sun]

And you will also notice if you open the printer when DK farming, it flickers alot

[gusty wedge]

Ya I did see that lol

Got to get them 20k statues lol

[serene solstice]

is there a way to see which worship gives most xp per click for me rn? like without me needing to do the math

[old portal]

Use IE

[serene solstice]

its not showing the best one need to do the math there and did it now >.>

[old portal]

I want to know what causes this i always get the flicker

[old portal]

In worshipping it will show you which gives the best exp

[serene solstice]

it shows xp per charge

but thats not calculated with the % each totem uses up

[old portal]

Per charge would mean per use thats what i assume

But pretty sure it is per use since thats the ammount of souls you get per clicks

[serene solstice]

like goblin gorefest gives 264 per charge but I need to divide it by 25% because each charge uses 25% so I know how much 1% charge use gives there

and in that case waka waka gives most xp

per 1% charge used

[signal osprey]

[serene solstice]

what do you think when will he release it?

[signal osprey]

Assuming theres no major issues or anything its usually a day or two after beta

But technically he can delay it as long as he wants so who knows

[vagrant mountain]

forbidden sample

i need moral guidance

[signal osprey]

I do bugs for more bubble clicks

Your new oak sample is more than enough to finish out the collider without needing any helps from archers anyway

[opaque sun]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[vagrant mountain]

true

[signal osprey]

[vagrant mountain]

no ban me for big oak

[placid mural]

What update do you think this is?

Too early to be world six right?

[signal osprey]

I would assume whatever his new weekly challenge thing he mentioned but who knows

He hasnt really given us much info to work with

[vagrant mountain]

gonna be worst update ever

he said he wanted it to just be cosmetics

thats what the gem shop is supposed to be for

[signal osprey]

Maybe there are other bonuses too

And maybe the cosmetics are still +1 slab

[vagrant mountain]

10% dmg if you use purple UI

[opaque sun]

the numbers on the char sheet is cosmetic in a way as to dress up to flex on discord

[signal osprey]

First one done

[vagrant mountain]

flexing on discord is the real endgame

[opaque sun]

Getting crit chance 300% to 4000% is a cosmetic content

[gusty wedge]

How do you add a screenshot of you samples

[opaque sun]

probably restricted to post images due to your discord role rank

[ashen marsh]

whats the CD on this?

[grizzled elk]

wiki says 55 hours

[opaque sun]

100k seconds

[ashen marsh]

does it always get a new recipe?

[opaque sun]

no

[ashen marsh]

is there an optimal way on using it?

[opaque sun]

It just presses to roll a try without resetting the fire level

[ashen marsh]

should I use ladles before or after?

[opaque sun]

Just think as it as a way to oress complete recipe

[ashen marsh]

ahh okie okie

[opaque sun]

Basically meaning its not really different from doing it on cook menu

[ashen marsh]

ohhh so it's just convenience

[opaque sun]

The “keep fire level” part of the mechanic isn’t useful for most things. When you unlock the recipe, the retained fire level means nothing. When you are spamming using ladles, you wont have much fire levels anyway to retaib

its not even convinience

Its one use per couple of days. Better off not use it and just unlock normally

[grizzled elk]

most people brute force new recipes with ladles so that skill isn't very useful

[opaque sun]

When you spam new recipe, you do like what 20-30 tries? It just makes one of those tries like very very very slightly better of raising the overall chance by 0.00001% for the trouble of setting it in hotbar and wasting talent points

[ashen marsh]

this is bad right

would take a long time

[grizzled elk]

depends on your other cooking stats

[opaque sun]

That screen doesnt tell whats bad

[ashen marsh]

it would take me like 150 ladles for like 50% I believ

[opaque sun]

If it only takes 1 ladle to try a recipe, its good

[dapper prism]

ffs my sample is fking up.. had a 400m copper and did 590m, kinda forgot to do all the other ores
Now im back and i cant even get it to above 490m...
I checked talents, gear, obols, card, set, lab chips, star signs and food

[opaque sun]

As a rule of thumb in this game, more tries are wayyyy better than one single big try

[ashen marsh]

I think it will take me 300 for 50% lol

[dapper prism]

oh gosh, i think i found my issue

[opaque sun]

Like with gaming mutation, 100 tries of 1% is better than 5 tries of 3%

[ashen marsh]

nvm it will take me like 1000 ladles

[dapper prism]

found it nvm

[opaque sun]

never raise fire levels past 2 especially if using ladles

[ashen marsh]

not worth right

[opaque sun]

Always try at fire level 1 when unlocking with ladles

[gentle furnace]

try recipe whenever you have a fire

[grizzled elk]

how many ladles did that take you?

[opaque sun]

Each subsequent fire is basically wasting lot of per ladle contribution

[ashen marsh]

i think close to 200

[kind epoch]

Oof

[ashen marsh]

I really need that pig recipe though

hog looking food

[opaque sun]

200 tries of low percent is better than 1 try of still rather low percent

[kind epoch]

Just spam the first level, you'll use far fewer ladles and would probably have it already haha

[ashen marsh]

wait what

[ashen marsh]

oh like lvl 1 right

[kind epoch]

Yeah

[ashen marsh]

damn I gotta get to 3 days first lol

[kind epoch]

You'd be better off upgrading your kitchen first probably then

[opaque sun]

like work on cook speed stuff like diamond chef

[ashen marsh]

is diamond chef a bubble

[opaque sun]

3 days at boar spices sounds like youve been neglecting lot of fire speed buffs and such

[ashen marsh]

yes, 100% I'm stuck with breed and boar

[kind epoch]

Like when I was unlocking a new recipe, i think the longest unlock times were maybe up to 8 hours max - most would have 1 or 2 ladles per attempt

[ashen marsh]

which buffs should I be paying attention to?

[opaque sun]

When using ladles, also split them from storage and dont waste all in one use

[kind epoch]

^

[ashen marsh]

yeah haha

[dapper prism]

Nawh just click all at once, go brrrrghhh /jk
https://i.imgur.com/fiKW053.png

[ashen marsh]

which caulderon is diamond chef?

[opaque sun]

Immediate buff is upgrade the kitchen using spice

[dapper prism]

yellow

[ashen marsh]

ahh yes I do this.

[kind epoch]

Cook speed, diamond chef, New recipe speed increases after that

[ashen marsh]

[opaque sun]

Just go cranium cooking for an hour or so

[ashen marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-so-sad-gif-25352430

[kind epoch]

Have you got all your existing recipes at 11+?

[fast grail]

Never in my life have i seen the limiter for diamond chef be liquid

[opaque sun]

Thats a lot of potential buffs you can get there

[ashen marsh]

how do i do cranium cooking? This is in the purple caulderon right

[dapper prism]

Easiest is go Toolbox (or ie) and filter recipes by speed

[opaque sun]

get bubo and farm mobs is cranium cooking

[ashen marsh]

no, not all of them.

[opaque sun]

it must be real easy to rush to w5 these days

[eager sedge]

It trully is

candy

[tranquil sedge]

what are the upgrade priorities for gaming

[dapper prism]

23 days or so here when i rushed

[opaque sun]

If in doubt, just upgrade the cheapest thing in gaming

[dapper prism]

but if you've played 5-6 months and still dont know what CC is, then you're just neglecting content hard

[eager sedge]

Shell base value and the speed plants grow

[ashen marsh]

where do you think I should farm with bubo?

[eager sedge]

Bro

[fast grail]

Depends on damage

[eager sedge]

Bubo has a skill on shaman tab

That s cranium cooking

[opaque sun]

I would maybe say floms

[eager sedge]

Go to cans

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/jzkx1ea.png

[eager sedge]

Pop up cranium do ur job

[tranquil sedge]

what am I looking at here

[eager sedge]

Health of mobs....

[fast grail]

CC map progression

[opaque sun]

I am also assuming you dont have the lab node for liquid either

[next locust]

Is tremor wurms really better for cranium, or is that mainly because of exp/money?

[eager sedge]

Tbh i wasn t using that either before 3 sec tentacleye

[fast grail]

Tremor is best for cc/exp/money

[dapper prism]

If your talents are lvl 100ish. You would want 10x their hp in dmg to 1 shot them

[opaque sun]

Its best for cranium as well as exp

[next locust]

Oh thanks guys I've been doing it wrong

[eager sedge]

What s ur damage?

[opaque sun]

People been doing cranium cooking at floms even before books went to 200

[ashen marsh]

yes I had that lab node

[dapper prism]

Theres several more mobs on wurms than citringe. since you 1 shot it all anyways.. wurms > citringe

[eager sedge]

Yeah but those guys had actual damage to one shot with poison

[ashen marsh]

very low.

[eager sedge]

Get to cans

[tranquil sedge]

just swap maps instead of waiting for it to respawn?/using the respawn spell thing

[eager sedge]

Also use stingers

[opaque sun]

Then its kind of like you had lab node even though you didnt do cranium cooking? Thats another waste move there

[ashen marsh]

whats stingers

[eager sedge]

😭

[dapper prism]

Fists

Gloves

[fast grail]

huh?

[ashen marsh]

I did put the cranium cooking skill on auto

[dapper prism]

No...

[opaque sun]

That move speed, that drop rate, it hurts

[fast grail]

ultimate bubo weapon

[tranquil sedge]

Okay clearly I'm an idiot, or is this... it's just the best place to cook isnt it

[ashen marsh]

whaaaat

[dapper prism]

It displays their hp there, those are typically the best spots to go for CC. Right side is best. But also needs more dmg. You need about 10x their hp in damage to 1 shot them.

[tranquil sedge]

thank you

[ashen marsh]

I leave my bubo here? afk or active?

[opaque sun]

bubo gets most of the kills with auspicious aura. Issue is when using a long range weapon, it doesnt proc the aura which has a very short trigger range

[eager sedge]

Bro do u think cranium works afk?

[vagrant mountain]

poison bubo is fine, still fast

[dapper prism]

I've been working on a spreadsheet for CC guide but sadly not going to be around for a little. can't finish it yet :/

[ashen marsh]

nope

[eager sedge]

Then why do u ask

[vagrant mountain]

if only it did xd

[opaque sun]

active as in auto

[eager sedge]

Get yo ass and active some hours

[opaque sun]

Not physically clicking

[dapper prism]

Hope they didnt think that o.o

[ashen marsh]

cause I can? lol wtf I only have a few months playing the game. chill the fk out

[vagrant mountain]

you guys dont manually click?

[eager sedge]

"Few months" mf i ve been playing for 6 months too

[dapper prism]

6 months is pretty long without knowing what CC is tbh

[shy flame]

I have to manually click to pick up loot to make the game stop lagging so the guy keeps killing

[opaque sun]

just get auto loot…

[eager sedge]

Look at diference between me and u with same playtime

[next locust]

"Just pay moneh"

[dapper prism]

You cant play the game without auto loot

[opaque sun]

No auto loot basically means on free trial mode

[weary granite]

when did you guys start pushing for vman? I'm wondering if I should start doing it soon but it still seems like it'll take a while with just the lvls

[shy flame]

how to get autoloot for free??

[eager sedge]

can t

[ashen marsh]

lmao like I care? I'm too busy traveling, working, and living life.

[opaque sun]

Basically buy the full game with 5$

[eager sedge]

And when did i ask?

Just get good

[ashen marsh]

when did I ask bout you

[eager sedge]

U just did

Dumbass

[dapper prism]

5 bucks is 5 bucks. If you're able to spend 10's to 100's of hours on a game but can't spend 5 bucks on a game because it's too much, then some priorities should shift tbh.

[gaunt shale]

you dont, you bite the bullet and accept that active farming beyond world 4/5 is not reasonable without autoloot

[ashen marsh]

where?

[eager sedge]

Im offering u help and u don t know shit

[shy flame]

5 bucks is at least 3 tacos, which is more than enough for dinner

[ashen marsh]

youre talking shit. broke boy

[eager sedge]

Atleast say rhanks

Thanks*

[opaque sun]

You asked why the cooking sucks, and we figured out it was due to your overall lack of upgrades

[tranquil sedge]

where the fuck do you get tacos for 1.30 a pop

[opaque sun]

So we just trying to answer how to fix the initial issue

[dapper prism]

"I ignored half the game, why am i not getting XYZ in game"
XYZ gets pointed out along with ABC. Then get flamed for it.

[eager sedge]

Yeah man my fault sorry for helping braindead people that just whale with candy all game and don t know what one ability is

Sorry

[ashen marsh]

I thank everyone else except you @eager sedge

if youre gonna help dont talk shit

[eager sedge]

Like i give a fuck💀

[ashen marsh]

you clearly do

[dapper prism]

Getting a little out of hand..

[eager sedge]

What do u think imma cry if u don t thanks mem

[ashen marsh]

[ashen marsh]

seems like it

[eager sedge]

Yeah man

[ashen marsh]

prob crying already

[eager sedge]

😭

[vagrant mountain]

you guys should get a room

[tranquil sedge]

^

[dire raptor]

Laziest attempt I've ever seen at trolling work tbh

[gaunt shale]

Idleon is a very serious game after all, no wonder things get so heated

[next locust]

🍿

[shy flame]

So, if I'm willing to buy autoloot, I don't know where to find it in the shop. If a game is free to play but being good it it requires payment I'm not sure it's doing great at being free to play

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-drink-sip-blink-the-mandalorian-gif-15693643

[eager sedge]

Auto loot is only required if u active play when u afk u don t need. It the game is meant to be "afk"

[vagrant mountain]

i mean Runescape is technically free to play

[dapper prism]

imagine RS.. f2p, lol

[opaque sun]

Or if you really like picking up things like we used to do pre auto loot

[gaunt shale]

you are not wrong, but oh well

[shy flame]

Like, yeah, I've spent enough time on the game that it's worth $5, but also like, if the advice is like "yeah spend money" then like, that's not really helpful

[shy flame]

I can absolutely sell enough garbage on OSRS every two weeks to keep it f2p

[gaunt shale]

if you want make progress lategame you need play active, so his point is valid

[opaque sun]

Then i guess SB is the best farming class for you

[ashen marsh]

I remember when runescape membership was $5

[vagrant mountain]

bro i used to play F2P it was a reality for me for like 3 years until i broke and used Phone2Pay or whatever ghetto shit they had
edit: my mom was pissed but it was worth it

[opaque sun]

SB is basically the best free to play farmer

[eager sedge]

That s why i said is meant to be "afk"

[ashen marsh]

loooool I remember this

it was common for kids to take their parents cc and buy rs membership with it

[vagrant mountain]

I swear the phone2pay system was just to get little kids in trouble with their parents

[next locust]

Takes like a couple of hours farming to buy 2 weeks of premium in rs so pretty much worst comparison to autoloot I've heard so far

[shy flame]

I feel like I'm pretty in between players who are like in world 5 with 15 min bubble and players who sample a billion oak logs an hour. Like, I've enjoyed the game so far. Is the advice really at this point "yeah, well, now enjoying the game costs money"

[vagrant mountain]

you could only buy bonds starting in like 2012 or something

[opaque sun]

No auto loot: free trial demo
Auto loot: full game

[dapper prism]

2013*

[next locust]

Well still waiting for that f2p autoloot we were supposed to get

[ashen marsh]

I played runescape for like a decade

[shy flame]

is that the way it should be or are you rationalizing your purchase of autoloot in a f2p game?

[ashen marsh]

I started 2002

[opaque sun]

its actually how it is

[vagrant mountain]

i think i started like 2004 or 2005, i remember my friend telling me "dude Runescape 2 just released it's so good!"

[opaque sun]

Lava just didnt want to scare users with upfront $5 to download

[ashen marsh]

don't be like me, I spent $250 on cards. Though I do like gambling so there's that.

[gaunt shale]

tbh its bit of a joke that something as important as autoloot is paywalled, its great that you can get most stuff f2p through gem shop but, just isnt great

thought 5 bucks as the only really required pack to buy is at least not wallet breaking

now king doot

[next locust]

I started 2001 before armors had level requirement. Pk in ghost town was the peak rs experience

[ashen marsh]

I had a friend who lured his irl friend to the wildy and stole his stuff lmao. This was in middle school

[dapper prism]

Go #off-topic-chat

[vagrant mountain]

XD

[shy flame]

This isn't off topic chat

[ashen marsh]

[vagrant mountain]

it basically is

[dapper prism]

This is not a dating site.

[vagrant mountain]

[shy flame]

We're asking if you need to buy autoloot to be able to progress in W5/Endgame

[ashen marsh]

👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

[shy flame]

The questions being asked are literally the purpose of this channel

[ashen marsh]

I think it's a good investment.

[vagrant mountain]

if you actually want to play this game, its kinda required

[next locust]

Well technically you can progress in w5 just by logging in once every month

[vagrant mountain]

read #server-rules #4 XD

[ashen marsh]

I assumed lol

[opaque sun]

you CAN continue on with no auto loot (basically trial mode), but then dont be aggressive to people suggesting to just buy auto loot if picking up items are nuisance

[vagrant mountain]

just get little bro to do it

[opaque sun]

Or do SB

[gaunt shale]

yeah but progressing is not lategame/endgame

have fun farming 5 star cards without autoloot, unless you want to filter out everything and throw away all the crystal drops

[shy flame]

Well, is it off topic to ask if being able to play a f2p game requires paying money? That's kind of important to the whole point of of players casually enjoying a f2p game, which is going to be most players in a f2p

[opaque sun]

If you dont have auto loot, SB should be you main farmer

[vagrant mountain]

SB only auto loots the plunder coins

[next locust]

I never said it would be efficient

[opaque sun]

idleon isnt a f2p game btw

[ashen marsh]

especially after the pets

[opaque sun]

Lava changed his mind from the original intent

[shy flame]

Disagreement isn't aggression, it's just disagreement, and I think I have a valid point that it's weird the culture for the top players in the game to be like "of course you have to pay lol you have to spend money lol"

[ashen marsh]

he wanted more lambos

🏎️

[vagrant mountain]

i argue that chips aren't f2p friendly at all

it started before pets

[ashen marsh]

ahh true that

[dapper prism]

Oh you need Choco? just wait 7 months, oh and that jewel, another 4 months.

[granite grove]

just if lava made autoloot free, and maybe change the pack to inventory/storage IAP (and add more slots)

[shy flame]

I downloaded the game for free, I am playing it for free, like, how is that not f2p?

[opaque sun]

like there is SB if you want free auto loot

[gaunt shale]

yeah chips are a jokey ngl i cashed all my chips and jewel, never even bothered crafting them the normal way

[ashen marsh]

imagine becoming a millionare after making a game like ms

[opaque sun]

Free to play, but also Pay to win disguised

[next locust]

It's pretty much only peiple who think paying for ingame stuff is good gameplay left here. And new players tricked by the "f2p". The players who were here when the game was even remotely f2p friendly left long ago.

[vagrant mountain]

i doubt lava is a millionaire XD

[gaunt shale]

wouldnt suprise me, I am not even close to a whale and have put quite too much money into idleon

[opaque sun]

You can argue that a game that locks 99% of content until you buy full game is still f2p

[granite grove]

lava should easily make at least few six digit annual earnings with all gacha in game, if not millionaire

[ashen marsh]

I think I put $400-$500 into this game lol

[opaque sun]

doot being the culprit

[gray thicket]

[shy flame]

I mean what's the point for f2p players to keep playing at this point? If the assumption of all the top players is pay to win, and the f2p casual players are eventually gonna hit a point where they only advice they get is "spend money", isn't the game just kinda gonna die like a lot of gacha games?

[ashen marsh]

I do regret buying the cards tho. They're easy to farm now.

[gaunt shale]

around same, well since doot it has risen quite more

[dapper prism]

there is no real pay to win in this game

[vagrant mountain]

cuz you dont win anything

[ashen marsh]

bragging rights lol

[vagrant mountain]

you win discord flex points

[dapper prism]

There's also no form of pvp or actual "competition" between players

[ashen marsh]

hahaha

[ashen marsh]

true, I usually like spending money on these games.

[vagrant mountain]

eventually everybody just ends up at beans

it's about the journey not the destination

[opaque sun]

Only pvp is flexing on this discord

[shy flame]

This started because I was literally being told I need to buy autoloot

[dapper prism]

So what? that still has nothing to do with p2w..

[shy flame]

So yes, there is obviously some pay to win in this game, given that playing it at a high level requires paying to play

[next locust]

That's where the influx of new players comes in. Some of them pay and the cycle continues. Lava (allegedly) puts most of the money he gets to advertisement. I've never seen a single one persobally, tho. Not even a pic

[granite grove]

invents a problem then sells a solution

[gaunt shale]

yeah, trying to be best in idleon is pointless, not least cuz cheating is so prevelent

I just play for myself cuz the game itself is fun

[dapper prism]

p2p and p2w are two very hugely different things.

[ashen marsh]

same, you would most likely see ads on IG. I've seen none.

[shy flame]

It's a f2p game, why is it p2p or p2w

[dapper prism]

Why does the dev need to make money?

Not even worth chatting with you lol

[opaque sun]

its just no way you can surpass an auto loot guy as no auto loot, but sure you can continue to play with SB centeted no auto loot if you dont mind that pace

[vagrant mountain]

dev should live in squalor like the rest of us

[ashen marsh]

I'd get pissed if I spent hours on something and not make money. I'm a dev myself.

[granite grove]

technically more like expansion pack in some way (kinda feels p2w in a way even if singleplayer), but autoloot is literally game optimization addon

[shy flame]

idk if you've ever heard of cosmetics but a lot of f2p games have them and are supported by them and idleon also has cosmetics

[dapper prism]

As topbird told you several times already.
This is an idle game, supposed to be played idle. Which you can, 100% free.
It is more beneficial to play active, but you essentially have to pay a 1 time fee of 5 bucks forthat.

[granite grove]

game lags too hard if active more than 5 min without autoloot

[vagrant mountain]

we should force lava to live like MAPPA's animators

[ashen marsh]

I suggest buying autoloot cause your pc will work harder and consume more resources

it's hurting your pc in the long run

[dapper prism]

Same, not sure what engine idleon is, never checked. but with unity's announced changed full f2p games are about to go RIP (20 cents per game install for unity games )

[opaque sun]

unlimited free trial game with $5 to upgrade to full game isnt that bad, if it wasnt for doot

[dapper prism]

and still unlimited free if playing it idle/afk

[ashen marsh]

wait what? there's gonna be a fee for game installs?

[shy flame]

Yeah, but I'm also asking at what point do players just have to spend money or stop playing. Cause if enough people stop playing the game is just dead

[opaque sun]

unity retroactively going to charge devs

[granite grove]

if lava really wants to make autoloot paid only, then he could at least optimize it by grouping into stacks (up to char's stack limit per type) or sth so its playable as a base game w/less lag, just need to open game every 1hr

[ashen marsh]

oh shit youre right lol

[dapper prism]

Yup, they even announced they have no way to check if someone installs the game over and over. Either way, all corporate insider trading with the amount of stocks they dumped the past year.

[next locust]

If the game was openly freemium with 5$ cost for full game, no one would complain

[opaque sun]

Basically unity is pulling a ransomware

[ashen marsh]

this is messed up

[ashen marsh]

lmfao

[dapper prism]

Time to get back into blueprints

[ashen marsh]

can't believe it. there should be a competitor stepping in soon.

[shy flame]

Is the advice from the best players in the game literally just buy autoloot or quit?

[next locust]

Or just get rid of coin animations. Those are what causes most of the lag. Just like arena attack animations did

[iron mesa]

Stencyl, visual programmin with blocks

[granite grove]

yeah animation toggle also good for it

[opaque sun]

also an opportune time for a 3rd engine to say “hey our thing can do similar things with no charging bs”

[ashen marsh]

I bought the auto loot cause it makes my playing experience easier.

[dapper prism]

There's a lot, godot has been pushing hard the past year since its opensource, like blender.

Still with nanite, UE would be the way to go for anything 3D related imo.
But unity made 2D stuff or UI driven projects very easy

[vagrant mountain]

whenever I see stencyl's UI, I feel a surging confidence that I could make a better game

(but I'm not going to)

[ashen marsh]

Yeah I think unity knows they're the goat so it's easy for them to do this 20 cent per dl bs

[dapper prism]

Oh this is made in stencyl?

[vagrant mountain]

ya

lava's done live streams showing the gamecode on Stencyl

[ashen marsh]

wtf, does stencyl not need any programming?

[ashen marsh]

lmfao was just looking at this.

no way lmao

[opaque sun]

its basically like a RPG maker

[vagrant mountain]

you dont even need to know math!

[dapper prism]

You know all engines have some form of visual coding...

[iron mesa]

It does have manual coding mode but dunno if Lava using it

[opaque sun]

lava is a pixel artist, not a programmer

[ashen marsh]

yes, but not like that lol

[dapper prism]

guess that's true too

[iron mesa]

Blueprints are same

[dapper prism]

Essentially

[ashen marsh]

ahhh okay, I would assume it would. Would be really hard to make this game just by visual coding blocks lol

[vagrant mountain]

whatever floats the boat i guess

if idleon was a boat though, it'd be a tiny sailboat full of holes trying to traverse the pacific

[opaque sun]

Is also why bb super chow, multiple mman hands, fractal island counting as fishing afk and such happens

[ashen marsh]

I've only used unity a couple times.
I have exp w/ java and python full stack.

always wanted to make a game though

[ashen marsh]

I should check sailing now that you mentioned this.

[dapper prism]

Easy,
If bug = fix bug.

[ashen marsh]

chatgpt - fix bug plz

[iron mesa]

Many games made just with visual coding, some of them are successful

[vagrant mountain]

if blue gems dont work = make green gems

[opaque sun]

if bug=its a feature=no need fix

[iron mesa]

Sounds like a famous story about gta

[ashen marsh]

I never got into gta 5 but I'm down to get in gta 6

[graceful pecan]

Does king doot also give minor bonus or in other words does it matter which god you chose when you have KD. Also polytheism because completely useless?

[vagrant mountain]

thats what i said about civ but it turns out civ 5 was better than civ 6

[iron mesa]

Civ 6 has some goofy style

[vagrant mountain]

point is if its good then buy/play it cuz it might not be forever

RIP my turmoil pure 2008 - 2011 RS EoC update

[ashen marsh]

omg lmfao I had one too

zerk

[opaque sun]

One thing to note, purrmep’s minor link needs someone to actually link since doot specifically ignores purrmep’s minor link

[ashen marsh]

w/ turmoil

[opaque sun]

Probably lava couldnt code purrmep minor link to not work 10x times when using doot

[vagrant mountain]

i had 60 att 42 def 95 pray 94 herb for overloads

[ashen marsh]

I'd spend like 5m worth of runes in clan wars w129

[ashen marsh]

42 def for void right?

[vagrant mountain]

i was a rune helm hipster

had the herald swag too

[ashen marsh]

overloads were nice. I had 99 herb

lol I still have an old yt video on my zerk

[vagrant mountain]

idleon fills the void in my heart now

cept i feel like i've been at beans for like a month

[modern plaza]

right, really wanted to play maplestory without grinding forever... boom idleon

[opaque sun]

Cant have enough beans in your life

[ashen marsh]

did you ever play clan wars? not the actual minigame but where you get to fight anyone 1 v 1

[vagrant mountain]

going for 10b i guess

[dapper prism]

Doing all my samples atm but this is killing me..
IS trophy 😦
https://i.imgur.com/Qgaz5Ev.png

[barren otter]

dude

[barren otter]

i started that recently

and i hate it...

[vagrant mountain]

the time has come to active bb

[opaque sun]

Only active BB is allowed to do is doot gmush

[vagrant mountain]

i need 425 for scarf

i have been farming crystal island on bb XD

for EXP

its time to just get it over with

[untold saffron]

Squire or BB for shimmer damage task?

I assume squire

[wind trellis]

why does it say 776 works too when it doesn't? nice bait

[fast grail]

because that value is technically not a 776, its actually a 775.x rounded up

[wind trellis]

I was happy for a moment

[vestal delta]

is cog quality dependent on anything? or just pure random

[wind trellis]

quality is rng but stat range depends on construction level

[vestal delta]

total construct level? or the people making the cogs?

[next locust]

Your highest

[wind trellis]

there's not really 'cog makers' asyou can pluck cogs out when there's no chars there

[orchid vale]

did lava disable images on this server

[granite grove]

!images

or lets just say you need certain rank to send image on the server

[wind trellis]

copper bar 2 or 3

[orchid vale]

no i cant post images

[wind trellis]

ifyou chat a bit around you will be able to post

[granite grove]

yeah thats why, you dont have enough rank/levels to do so

[orchid vale]

i can in world 1 and world 2 questons tho

[granite grove]

according to discord search history, you never posted any image

[orchid vale]

i did rightnow see

[true obsidian]

I have a question about “All char kill boss”. What if i’m not create 9th or 10th char? It still doable? Because that time i only have char 8th as last char?

[placid mural]

WAHOOO!!!

[vagrant mountain]

its beautiful

[zealous niche]

Get more account progress.. why would you be worrying about those tasks when your account can’t unlock char 9 and 10

[old portal]

Nope and prettybsure you cant click it

[opaque sun]

well, you cant click anyway

It just act as a meter of how long its been since you unlocked chemical

[daring ravine]

bragging rights on how many plants youve collected since getting chemical

[opaque sun]

Mine is at 145k dna

[daring ravine]

exactly what im saying

[opaque sun]

With 0.3%

So proves how bad it scales

[sweet mountain]

Question about sailing. I only need the last two eldritch to finish the artifacts. At this point, should I keep ignoring the talent that allows for my captains to try and increase the treasure level?

[daring ravine]

mathematically better for arti % to have the unending loot tallent not unlocked

[opaque sun]

but if not in a hurry to eldritch them, you can go lazy mode and use talent

Honestly whichever that fits your play style at that point

[daring ravine]

= more loot (as in the trasure to upgrade bubbles / ships)

[opaque sun]

Ive been using talent since im just at a point 50m speed on all boats and not so sweaty claiming the chests now

[daring ravine]

the talent is mostly just for when you fall asleep

[opaque sun]

And for sail exp

Its a sail exp talent for trading off chests basically

[daring ravine]

more exp + treasure but less arti %

[opaque sun]

And im way past the point to be bothered switching around

[fast grail]

I suffer from using the talent, but honestly just too lazy to constantly do claims. I've been stuck working on eldritch socrates for over 2 months now

[daring ravine]

no need to minmax / worry about gains with unendnig loot if you dont care about rushing

[opaque sun]

Also using talent means less clicking (opening chests) to save my trouble

End game, qol has big value than “theoretical most gains”

Thus i use unending

[vagrant mountain]

sailing is just 1. rush eldritch fury 2. get eldritch trilobyte / crystal steak = job done

[opaque sun]

With few more multipliers, sailing has potential to be 1b treasure bubble clicks tho

[vagrant mountain]

yeah im just farming first island for boat levels now :\

[opaque sun]

even now i get to click a bubble like once a day

[vagrant mountain]

and last island for money

[daring ravine]

not as exciting as most pictures in here but i crafted skullslip

[vagrant mountain]

hype i guess lol

[daring ravine]

it looks bad

[solid epoch]

i been stuck on the last island for a long time now, cant get that eldritch

[opaque sun]

In 2024, printed materials will be considered the “slowest bubble to click” while you can click smith bubbles every second and sail bubbles multiple tines every 2 hrs

[vagrant mountain]

kek

if im not burnt out from hourly clicking yet

[opaque sun]

Salt bubbles on auto deposit will be making 1b salts every min or so i suppose at that point

[solid epoch]

for smith bubbles every second u would need like hammer hammer bubble lvl 100k or something lmao

[opaque sun]

In 2024 anvil meta will be full caps

[solid epoch]

that even might be too low

[vagrant mountain]

i feel like im never gonna get to 10k base bubbles

gonna burn out before then

[daring ravine]

im never using wasd to move again
i straight up skipped the astro colleseum from the start

[opaque sun]

Just wait to see lava casually adds cooking marrow level of multipliers for smith speed

[vagrant mountain]

lol

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/wYxotsa.png

same

just goin casually with it so i dont burn out

[daring ravine]

i want a refund

[vagrant mountain]

my pfp is literally me irl like right before bed sometimes

[solid epoch]

for a week i went crazy on it but then realized that i had no life, so i cut back

i was setting alarms to wake up in the middle of the night

[vagrant mountain]

lol

[solid epoch]

split my sleep into 3 parts

[daring ravine]

Crazy? I was crazy once.

[opaque sun]

hourly bubbles in practice is usually like 2 clicks a day and most of the clicks are made when doing brrr and claiming afk for omni

[solid epoch]

now im doin maybe 10 clicks a day instead

[opaque sun]

Like 2-3 clicks a day using irl hours, and additional 4-10 depending on brr/omni rng

[vagrant mountain]

it sounds weird but i hate it when my printer procs more than like 8 times because then i have to go on bubo

[opaque sun]

that time when your liquid is like 1k but brr keeps proccing

[vagrant mountain]

it's like yay

[opaque sun]

You want to use up brr so it starts working towards next cd, but also dont want to waste brr by not clicking bubbles

[pulsar cliff]

I swear liquid % is an inverse hidden modifier on printer go brrr chance

[solid epoch]

yeah its annoying, also with how my coconut prints are, i dont really like doing 2 brr procs at a time because i get like 700M coconuts. then i try swapping to other characters or waiting an extra hr or two to get the quick slap click before i press the brr again

ends up making me take like 3-5 hrs to use them, which is wasteful in itself since im wasting the cooldown

[vagrant mountain]

maybe new strat is change your prints to like void / dementia so that you use 2nd/3rd liquid

and magma logs / wispy lumber

[opaque sun]

End gamer cashgrab companion incoming of “auto clicks bubbles for the mats you are printing”

[solid epoch]

i just need to get my coconut print to a high enough level to where i can click the bubble on every brr proc

thatll be huge

[vagrant mountain]

even a companion that was like 50% chance to not use liquid/mats when leveling up a bubble

you hear me lava?

[solid epoch]

just keep pushing ur water rates

[fast grail]

more in line would be x2 cap and x2 speed

[vagrant mountain]

but we know lava loves rng

[solid epoch]

im currently at 52/hr, but gonna go to 100/hr

then im gonna dump in capacity for a while

that way i dont have to use bubo as much

[vagrant mountain]

[solid epoch]

though by the time i get there, the bubbles will cost 3x more so then ill have to push my water rates higher anyway

endless cycle

[vagrant mountain]

at that point you just main bubo

and crank out alchemy levels for cap

[solid epoch]

im using bubo perma during awake hrs. then sleep time i do DK bean

seems like the most efficient gameplay

[vagrant mountain]

smart

im just perma bean

actually right now im active bb

200% efficiency

[solid epoch]

im not caring much about my construction rn lol

[vagrant mountain]

like 40% an hour

[fast grail]

I really need to work on liquids more, i didnt do it enough back in w4 meta

[solid epoch]

yeah i didnt do it much either, though just working a week or two on it has given really nice gains

was at like 30/hr before or somethin

[vagrant mountain]

im gated by sigils

[solid epoch]

i do both

[solid epoch]

ah dang yeah keep em on there

[vagrant mountain]

imagine if cranium cooking affected sigils BUT new last sigil is +1 sigil level

[solid epoch]

im just working on 2 sigils rn, the rest are on my first water cauldron

4 working on getting gilded liquid regen, 3 working on w6 thingy, 3 on water 1

[vagrant mountain]

i really want the gold food one

[solid epoch]

yeah its p nice now that i look at it

https://i.imgur.com/kdH1K5F.png

[vagrant mountain]

juicy

[solid epoch]

prob additive with ur other gold food bonuses but seems good

[vagrant mountain]

would give me at least 50% mining eff

[solid epoch]

yeah for me at 158k golden peanuts i have 148% eff

[vagrant mountain]

think i had around 110% at 150k ish

am I missing any good hourly clicks (other than larry)

[lost tendon]

how u get such high cap

[vagrant mountain]

my cap is same as yours

[lost tendon]

no like total cap

[pulsar cliff]

I do cereal for mage tool efficiency

[lost tendon]

ur 6.9k

[vagrant mountain]

?

[lost tendon]

you have a 6.9k water cap

how

[solid epoch]

A big increase to cap was the limited shop cauldron upgrade

[vagrant mountain]

oh

i didnt get those cauldrons

uh just stamps/alchemy/cooking

hope they come back

also hope DR keychains come back

[solid epoch]

Yeah I really want the last one

Since there was only 2

[pulsar cliff]

I missed itthe first time it came out so I'm grumpy over that.

[solid epoch]

My 3rd cauldrons capacity is trash

[vagrant mountain]

i only started may so i missed all the cool stuff

i dont even have sleepy cap

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/n8EDE7U.png

[vagrant mountain]

i hwish

[solid epoch]

Fills up so quick compared to the others

[lost tendon]

the fukk

im doing something wrong then

[solid epoch]

My cap is pretty low for having the limited shop cauldron tbh

I've seen people with 20k+ cap

[lost tendon]

wtf

check mine https://illustrator.idleonefficiency.com/

oh wait u cant see it there

[hallow wing]

Stuck between wanting to afk DK for onyx, or bb to get alchemy done, it's annoying that I'm getting WAY more statues for mining and chopping than power

[lost tendon]

what can i do better?

[vagrant mountain]

should get alchemy done

[willow sorrel]

should probably pick up your chizoar keys

[opaque sun]

like yeah get larry effect to trigger 100%+

[vagrant mountain]

stamps / alchemy / cooking

[lost tendon]

larry

?

Ohh

Should i just straight print the dementia?

[vagrant mountain]

yes

print everything you need

then u wait and click bubbles

ez

[foggy apex]

whats this one do

and this one?

[vagrant mountain]

pretty much what the description says

[solid epoch]

Based

[foggy apex]

dump my candy for nothing?

[solid epoch]

Yeah don't buy that

[foggy apex]

why

[solid epoch]

It sucks

[vagrant mountain]

because you get nothing

kek

[solid epoch]

High chance of buggin out anyway

[foggy apex]

so i should buy rando island?

[solid epoch]

Shore

[foggy apex]

or shimmer island?

[vagrant mountain]

whatever floats your goat

[solid epoch]

Or u could do one of the others

[vagrant mountain]

i hear that one is pretty good

[solid epoch]

Just get fractal last

Definitely do shimmer first

If u don't have that island already u need it

Random can wait

[vagrant mountain]

hows your shimmer shop?

i missed a week cuz i forgot

[finite hull]

I've working my first characters through W5. Is it worth using time candies to unlock the W5 boss faster? With previous worlds it was hugely impactful as it opened up new mechanics each time, but I'm not sure how worthwhile it is to rush to the W5 boss, i.e. does the first kill on him unlock anything?

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/DYba4zq.png

[vagrant mountain]

[solid epoch]

stonks

[vagrant mountain]

you got way more points than me XD

i just need an acc/def trial