lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[tacit tulip]

hey, potato pc didn't fail you thoughj

[fallow aurora]

yeah atleast it didn't crash

[tacit tulip]

now that I'm fully settled into 100% vial and 25 onyxes

I guess it's time to become a bean boy

maybe I should max my DKs inv out first...

[barren otter]

cant wait to go back to beans...

[tacit tulip]

I've never truly farmed there for a long period of time

thinking of maybe doing a month or two then sorting out the SB achievement

[barren otter]

you can get to 250 on the W1 statues pretty quickly

barely took me a few days after finishing onyxs

[tacit tulip]

yeah don't see it taking long

[fallow aurora]

good luck bean boy

[tacit tulip]

need to sort out the last 70k pow statues too at some point

no candy so will just spend a few days at dreadlo on everyone

[quaint zodiac]

Combat level?

[fallow aurora]

class level? 349

[icy jewel]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[old portal]

does infinite star sign works even when you dont have it unlocked?

[tidal sky]

just back from work and i see this on suggma 🥲

[teal lynx]

Do you see these infinite symbols?

[old portal]

yeah but i havent unlocked some of them

[old portal]

farming for this rn wish me luck

[teal lynx]

Oh. Yeah they work

Thought you unlocked them via Shiny Pets, but not in Rift yet

[tidal sky]

you will get your's within the next 24hrs 👍

[old portal]

aight i just started yesterday with 8chars

also finally 2 worlds done achievement iguess lol

[tidal sky]

i don't even know if it is worth to farm on afk chars tbh, i left mine farming eclipse on w1 managed to get frogs and beans since i started a bit late 😅

[old portal]

well i dont really have anything to plan out rn so just want the recipe for now

also doing 100m DN but i think my other chars wont do much help

[tacit tulip]

took me 2 months of active farming on 16 Dr to get mine

never again (until w6)

[tidal sky]

so unlucky omg

[old portal]

for some reason my bubo spear damage increased from 17b to 27b free 10b damage that i cant find where it is from

[tidal sky]

16.67 dr here took a couple of days not gonna lie

[vocal ibex]

Did you pause chiilo?

Like did the app close

Did you check other characters

Did you stop to use toilet

[tidal sky]

yeah definitely, I could not help myself to leave at that screen active all day

yeah suprisingly i even used the toiled

twice

[vocal ibex]

Okay just asking because I paused I did active farming for a week never got it back to farming statues

I'm go for that recipe again after I finish statues

[tidal sky]

if you have less than this you pretty much have farmed less than me, try to farm until u get 2k rare drops if u didnt drop go back to it later

[vocal ibex]

I have over 2k of those

[tidal sky]

oh no

[vocal ibex]

Oh yes let me go check

[tacit tulip]

technically average drop is every 1k of those

as they're 1000x the rate

[old portal]

the only 2k i have since i left everyone on stilt moles when i left

[tidal sky]

oh god, rng gods really did not favour you guys

[vocal ibex]

Sakori I won't complain anymore

XD

[teal lynx]

I took all your luck

[tidal sky]

also since i see you have only 73 gs what is ur dr on ES maybe it is best to wait

[tacit tulip]

hey you can catch me up yet

[vocal ibex]

15 I believe

Little over

[tidal sky]

lucky indeed

[lone galleon]

[vocal ibex]

I dont want to lmao you can keep your 6k rare drops

I hope I get mine before 4k

[tacit tulip]

so close

[teal lynx]

Random 1 Hour claim when I left my ES there for no reason

[tacit tulip]

the day i got it was actually pretty hype. Was in the office at work and had IE open on my third screen. Went for lunch, came back and could see it in my inv on ie

[placid mural]

do you guys include this in your hourly clicks?

at this point im kind of trying to cut back out much water i need per ~6 hour spread

[tacit tulip]

At the moment there's no real need for mmore production speed outside of greenstacking the harder stuff, which isn't too bad

[barren otter]

keep going

you need to get thread to hourly

[tacit tulip]

I barely touch hourly clicks as it is, imagine having to log all 10 characters to collect thread hourly

[tidal sky]

all that pain for this improvement guys 👍 😉

[solid epoch]

upgrade it to kruk

[tacit tulip]

biiiig gains

[tidal sky]

i will just wanted to check the difference, lets see if kruk will surprise me...

[solid epoch]

5% dmg

[old portal]

finally hit 100b

[tacit tulip]

it's more about the atk speed than anything

more punch = more good

[solid epoch]

the biggest boost is the mob respawn

dats nice

[solid epoch]

now gotta get 1T

[old portal]

soon i need to 1b print first

[tidal sky]

o well, but mob respawn it is only good for afk right?

[solid epoch]

mob respawn works active too

[tacit tulip]

dk hit 1t in farming build today, pretty happy about that

[tacit tulip]

samples too

[old portal]

time to stop quick slap at 443 (ik dumb number to stop)

[tidal sky]

true, with speedrun, i forget this sometimes

[old portal]

need to get 500 skilling bubbles first then ill resample

[solid epoch]

bigger dmg boost than the previous upgrade too at least

[solid epoch]

yeah id do that too first, then go back to slap once ur done

[old portal]

yup since my skilling bubbles only at 300 for chopping and 200 on mining

[tidal sky]

the bubbles that gives skilling power?

[tacit tulip]

ugh wondered why my DK filled up overnight. Had my bubbles back to front

[shy flame]

whats a reasonable time to clear pet arena in?

[solid epoch]

yeah

[old portal]

time to farm some nkattle

11.59 dr on my bubo without obols should i transfer obols aswell?

[solid epoch]

for sure

max possible DR if u can

[tacit tulip]

if you're farming nkattle and not maxing out dr I'll hit you with a stick

[old portal]

aight 12.31

[tidal sky]

i stopped lvling those because i was lvl quick slap to beat nkattle with vman, should i stop is this enouigh dmg? i dont want to be 1 hour there

[tacit tulip]

midas too if it's not equipped

[old portal]

did already

but yeah 12.31 best i can

[solid epoch]

thatll be enough to beat him yeah

[tacit tulip]

prolly about 10 mins at that damage

[solid epoch]

if u want to farm him id push ur dmg about 5-10x higher but just for a first kill thatll work

[old portal]

400 keys to use for n kattle for now

[tidal sky]

10 min 😭

oh okay i will try i spent more time on stupid frosty 120 td

[solid epoch]

i did Nkattle with that amount of dmg on my vman, wasnt too bad

[old portal]

what is nkattle card?

[tacit tulip]

money%

[solid epoch]

worth doing so u can unlock the scarf/trophy

[old portal]

mehh

[tidal sky]

yeah that scarf and trophy will change my sample and dr

seems to be very op specially with chip

[blazing zodiac]

whats nblb?

[solid epoch]

no bubble left behind

[pure spindle]

No bubble left behind

[blazing zodiac]

ahhh

right

duh

[old portal]

how much damage i need to complete rift?

[tidal sky]

all the dmg

[old portal]

cant even complete rift 41 with 60b lol

on sb atleast

[solid lantern]

I heard the current stopper for most people was ES portal count, so like 100b or something?
Might just be pulling numbers out my ass though

[old portal]

cuz i need to clear the whole map but i cant kill fast enough

if 100b should be easy for me but i doubt its 100b

[tacit tulip]

100-120b on ES with good talent levels for attack skills (tornado etc)

[solid lantern]

you can pre-damage mobs if that helps to cheese it (to an extent)

[gaunt forge]

i remember when the divine boss gear came out people said it was more of a side grade than a upgrade to the magma due to losing the all stat. is this still true or is it just better than magma?

[paper sail]

Still true, hasn't changed.

[old portal]

but i struggle with clearing the map and doesnt want to macro

[solid lantern]

and yeah, you gain % respawn but lost % all stat

[old portal]

wait.. last armor sucks? so only helm and boots for DR?

[solid lantern]

yep

[tacit tulip]

chest/legs for afk gains too

full magma for sampling

[gaunt forge]

so far ive only done helm and boots for the drop rate and kept magma on everyone else

[solid epoch]

i was 66-144B on my ES to beat rift 44

[old portal]

hmmm ill give it a shot again then

[tacit tulip]

I just made full kattle on everyone as I am extremely lazy about swapping builds

[paper sail]

It doesn't suck, there are just niche uses.

[solid lantern]

Helm isnt as free as the boots since the bar cost to get there, but yeah. Boots 100% worth upgrading and its cheep

[tidal sky]

i have 400b dmg on my ES and did not beat rift 44, guess i will have to give it a try

[tacit tulip]

isn't rift 44 the 5m kills one? 😛

[solid lantern]

btw, I was meant to ask since I'm finally bothering to create a chopping/mining obol set, is the only way to get them paying for packs or the alch shop? 😵‍💫

[tidal sky]

no it is ES if i recall

[solid epoch]

#endgame-gen-chat message

[paper sail]

You beefed something big time.. 100 - 130b is all you need to clear the final ES wormhole challenge

[solid lantern]

4k account level btw ahaha

[tidal sky]

u need the portal mobs

[gaunt forge]

https://gyazo.com/ebc97ae8491e770c90afb097dd608bbf this is 50b if my smooth brain self is right yes?

[old portal]

i cant clear the whole map with my 70b bubo lol

[tacit tulip]

summon the portal on the tiny platform on the left if you try again. It funnels all your skills (tornado and the like) to the portal mobs which makes your portal kills better

[solid epoch]

looks like i pushed my dmg to like 156B on ES to beat it actually, i also had to use some books to max some relevant talents

[old portal]

lol iam getting tilted i cant clear rift 41 with 77b bubo

too lazy to actually try so f that

[solid epoch]

what was that challenge again?

[old portal]

clear all mobs before any respawn

[solid epoch]

just take off ur bubo raise dead

and take off any mob respawn stuff

[tidal sky]

yeah just beat rift 44 with easy, also used Sakori tip, even without necklace guess i was just dumb not to do it

[solid epoch]

that one u could do easily too even if ur dmg isnt enough since u could just chip them all down a bit evenly

[fast verge]

this is nice

700+ kill with non mage is

[solid lantern]

supprised you go tthat high with only +14 seconds too

[solid epoch]

DK go brr

[fast verge]

ye me to

[tidal sky]

now on rift 45 is just waiting game

[old portal]

ruby cards soon

aight ill go back do my onyx grind for now

[tidal sky]

even if i unlock ruby i aint farming that shit

[old portal]

is ruby cards that hard to farm?

[solid lantern]

the cards itself? depends

[solid epoch]

for w4 and w5 stuff its hard

[tacit tulip]

I like to use this as an example

[solid epoch]

w1-3 is pretty easy

[shy flame]

pretty easy for bored bean and crystal carrot specifically

[solid epoch]

well u get all of w1-3 done if u just eclipse

[old portal]

guess time to get em

[solid epoch]

w4 is where it gets tricky

[solid lantern]

its more a case of, if you were farming there before the patch etc

[old portal]

idk for that example if i have this much card and idk how long it took lol

[solid lantern]

most things would be pretty close/if not already careded

except yeah for w5 for sure, those fuckers take so much more xD

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/BI6PWA8.png

[solid lantern]

just chuck em all when training skilling to 100

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/MNLnM1m.png

these suck

[old portal]

what else to ruby here? or any other prio cards

[tidal sky]

u guys focused on dr and card chance or just really farming exp for 100 skill?

[solid lantern]

then again yeah, more cards for higher resources, the lower things uhhhh

[solid lantern]

doot, gives 36% dr

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/bgP2T3J.png

[old portal]

whyyy

[old portal]

this better than doot?

[tacit tulip]

c.chiz worth it for the shrine buffs

small but permanent

[old portal]

not my precious gemsss

[solid epoch]

uhhh probably

just upgrade both

also get NM troll up to 5*

that one is real nice for dmg

[old portal]

maybe its time to use them all?

[solid lantern]

Biggie is also a qol but not super important if you use it

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/OkUPRwY.png

[old portal]

i have no keys for it tho

[solid epoch]

just get some

do the arena

[old portal]

useless tho tbh

unless you can triple afk claim

[solid lantern]

fair fair

[tidal sky]

wait a sec here, which cards are essential to ruby with gem shop? cause i never bought any but i might since it is in rotation

[tacit tulip]

c troll is probably the strongest one for skill eff

[old portal]

the crystal once i did the genie but havent done the poop yet

[old portal]

how much keys u get per arena?

[tidal sky]

and that one it is not reasonable to farm to ruby right?

[tacit tulip]

exactly

[old portal]

imma open em all ill be back

[tacit tulip]

the normal bosses you can, but it gets rough for chaos/nm

[solid epoch]

C troll, demon genie, poop maybe if u dont want to farm it

[solid lantern]

poop not so much

[solid epoch]

yeah its easy to get

but its real important

[solid lantern]

you'll get the cards doing eclipse skull and its easy kph

[tacit tulip]

excited to one day have this done

[solid lantern]

unlike wood shrooms etc

[solid epoch]

dont remember, but i know it was quite a lot

[old portal]

from 1590 to this with envelopes

[solid lantern]

genies for sure since they're slow/few spawns

[solid epoch]

ill do a quick w4 arena to check

[old portal]

biggest gem ammount you can get?

[tacit tulip]

69?

[tidal sky]

i could get 8 ruby on the gem shop but these are unfarmable? poop i can farm, "I think"

[old portal]

i got decent gems from that

[solid lantern]

giant poop is a decent one since its time gated

[old portal]

2 ruby cardifiers left what else to use on? is it time to use on poop?

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/wa4xhDv.png

[solid lantern]

not worth using on chaotic amorak, but get that shit up

😂

[solid epoch]

1 arena run on DK with 21.6x DR

[pulsar cliff]

I did the event card for boost food effect

[tidal sky]

is this a good list to spend 8 ruby cards on? idk about boop actually if it is really worth it

[old portal]

aight thanks

[solid lantern]

boop ehhh the afk % bonus is kinda small imo

[vapid warren]

Things like the w4 rings, is it better to farm on my DK or my ES?

[solid lantern]

a nice to have but unsure if I would rate it higher then other cards unless anyone else can prove wrong

[vapid warren]

If they both have the same DR.

[solid epoch]

ES

[solid lantern]

ES I believe for items listed outright, DK for rare items

[tacit tulip]

boop also isn't terrible to farm

[vapid warren]

Can you give me an example of a 'rare' item?

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/gmKwHQ1.png

if the mob drops it like this

then its always ES

[tacit tulip]

One exception, wurm keys

but otherwise yes

[solid epoch]

only if the item appears in the crystal drop table

[solid lantern]

it is a daily thing though ahahaha

[solid epoch]

would u do DK

[solid lantern]

yeah, crystal farming loot goes to dk

[tacit tulip]

yeah DK beats out on keys by a surprising margin

800 orb is hard to beat and ES can't get great portals due to high base hp

[pulsar cliff]

Does it make any sense to try and get tier 7 plants? Or statistical improbability

[solid epoch]

rly? thats weird lol

can crystals drop a key?

[tacit tulip]

nah

just above mentioned, hard for ES to stack portal, and it's DKs best map

[solid epoch]

ah

so if ur big damage then ES is still better then

[tacit tulip]

we're talking like Q damage tho

in theory Es will be better for keys once w6 is out

but DK might be better for last map drops again in w6

[solid epoch]

wonder if my ES beats my DK yet

might have to test

[old portal]

no good chip until november...

[tacit tulip]

I'm nowhere near beating it for keys yet but my ES only gets up to about 6T

guess I should prep for chips just in case

ah nothing special, should be back up to good numbers by then

still recovering my fish/bugs from the 15m collider eating

[pulsar cliff]

Ouch

[tacit tulip]

Context there: Went on holiday, logged into new device. Apparently, collider limit is set per device

So when I logged in it just...ate everything

[pulsar cliff]

Good ... to know. dang.

[paper nova]

on the first 3 gods i havent seen a 100% chance show up yet - do they have it or is that only later?

[pulsar cliff]

they do happen just not common

[tacit tulip]

yeah it's weighted chance every time you attempt a prayer

forget the exacts but it's like a 5% chance to 100% to appear?

you basically roll low til you get it

[hot dove]

Am I nightmare kruck lvl yet? Or should I stick to chaotic?

[tacit tulip]

stick to chaotic

[hot dove]

Okie dokie, thanks

[tacit tulip]

BB is one of the hardest classes to do it on, you'd want at minimum 50b damage

[hot dove]

50b? Alright then, gonna be a bit, thx

[tacit tulip]

that's the minimum, too

[hot dove]

Darn

[tacit tulip]

will still take a while and require you to manually play

[hot dove]

50b not including crit?

[tacit tulip]

yeah, when people give a damage stat liuke that they usually mean the max damage on your sheet

so currently you're on 7.5b

[hot dove]

Ok, yeah, just checking, I'ma die, every other character I have except 1 is under 1 billion damage lol

[tacit tulip]

consider giving ES, Bubo, and DK some love

they're the strongest active characters

They can also do kattle considerably easier as they're brainless, you just set them going and come back later when it's dead

[hot dove]

I'm mostly working on Es right now, my bubos are neglected and my DK is the other character at 1b

[hot dove]

Makes sense

[finite sparrow]

What should i upgrade first on DK post office?

I have about 400 boxes

[tacit tulip]

probably 200fight/200mining in that case

[finite sparrow]

No drop rarity?

[tacit tulip]

more important if you're gonna farm crystals

which, to be fair, will give you more pens to get more boxes

so might be worth considering

[finite sparrow]

Or i can just not spend the boxes on my 10 chars like i've been doing

😤

[tacit tulip]

I'm gonna get good mileage out of this video I think

pens can be used to reset a completed order, so you farm pens -> Use pens to generate lots of boxes

and it's not too bad to max boxes on everyone

+acquire the carpal tunnel debuff irl

[simple hound]

is the best way to increase damage the greened stacks or is there a better way?

[tacit tulip]

probably the easiest short term gains

long term, sailing+alchemy

[finite sparrow]

I did all my samples without leveling mining box

[simple hound]

alchemy is slow and everything is sitting at about lvl 50 at the moment and how does sailing increase it enough to be seen as close to alchemy

[finite sparrow]

I think i'm a bit too far from crystal farming yet. My damage is bad

And cards are bad

[tacit tulip]

A few of the sailing artifacts are particularly adept at increasing your damage when you get them in particular

[simple hound]

oh. need.

[tacit tulip]

additionally you need sailing to level up some alchemy bubbles for big damage gains

[tacit tulip]

My alchemy copy pasta might help you progress it a bit faster

Alchemy

The easiest way to level alchemy is to look at your bubbles that are very easy to level up. This is typically: Logs, ore, bugs, fish, and sometimes mob mats.

Start taking printing samples (use royal sampler) for the skilling stuff. Use ES to farm mob mats if needed

your goal here is to level up these easy bubbles so that the lab bonus, "no bubble left behind" levels the HARD bubbles for you, without spending your resources: Salt, worship souls, trapping critters, cooking spices.

As you progress, your account will get stronger in all areas. This will make your samples bigger, which lets you level the bubbles further, and it's an almost endless cycle towards greatness.

As you get stronger it'll be easier to level other things: Stamps, craft better gear, and generally do anything you need.

[simple hound]

okay so i still have pretty much the right idea then but still have to work on it a bit, thank you

[tacit tulip]

When I did it I picked a milestone and levelled everything up to that milestone

100k material, 1m, 10m

[swift hatch]

I've almost hit 1t damage finally, didn't take as long as I'd thought.

[finite sparrow]

@tacit tulip what PO upgrades for SB? Catching and smithing?

[tacit tulip]

smithing is good at 400 but I probably wouldn't spend your only boxes on that

[finite sparrow]

What happens at 400?

Do all bonuses get big?

[tacit tulip]

the last 200 levels get you the +1 slot buff

so when you make an item, it has a 20% chance to get an extra slot

[finite sparrow]

Wtf

[tacit tulip]

might start at 100 actually

[opaque sun]

you will reach a point its so easy to 400 a box

[tacit tulip]

been so long since I did PO

mana is pretty strong when maxed too

[finite sparrow]

I'll just get to 2nd level then

Not the 400

[finite sparrow]

Is this for ES?

[tacit tulip]

Anyone - the cooldown means you cast skills faster

more skills = more kills

[finite sparrow]

Is it worth maxing that over trees?

[tacit tulip]

get your trees first- samples are important

[tall horizon]

woops, just accidentaly deleted that image. Sorry hammer

[finite sparrow]

Does that apply to this character too?

[finite sparrow]

It be like that

[solid epoch]

u know how many keys/hr u get from dk farming wurms?

i might do a ES test

https://i.imgur.com/cYPWwFN.png

not too bad of a portal, i still need to book some talents

[bleak gust]

how do i get the second tab of upgrade boxes

[tidal sky]

to get 100k statues on bb u guys use candie on dreadlo? 💀

[sick sentinel]

Unlock the cosmic order (the 6th order set) in post office and then do pet arena and sailing for the extra boxes

[sick sentinel]

I did dreadlo for most everyone

Besides 1 dk and 1 es

[solid epoch]

as of the past 15 mins im getting 95 keys/hr, i think ES might be better now. i could just be lucky rn tho, will keep going

[opaque sun]

with crazy enough damage, yeah ES starts to be better

but between “lot of keys and lot of gold food and construction progress” and “comparable keys but much less gold food”, id still take the former with DK

[solid epoch]

Yeah guess so. Though I don't care as much about the gold food now that I can cap out my active chars inventory with nomwiches

Might be wurf at 100T+ ES dmg. Currently at 45T

DK is like 60-70 keys/hr right?

[vapid warren]

Why are crystal mobs so sought after? I don't really see anything special in their drops?

[shy flame]

onyx statues

[vapid warren]

They drop a lot of statues?

[shy flame]

if you have choccy chip and a decent DK yes, you can farm just a ton of statues in a couple hours for onyx

[tidal sky]

how much hours of candy did u spent?

[paper nova]

Does wisdom/ Do ES's benefit more in divinity leveling or is it basically just lab where everyone sucks

[summer glacier]

whats the cost to max this? I wanna hoard souls for when i unlock it

[swift hatch]

By the time you get to the point of being able to unlock it you should be able to max it

[tidal sky]

doesn't it show in this exact page? 🤔

[summer glacier]

still got a rough idea? 100m? 200?

only for unlocked prayers

[tidal sky]

then go to toolbox, it shows there

[swift hatch]

or use the official wiki?

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Prayers#Zerg_Rushogen It's 400k souls

[tidal sky]

i have no idea as for the amount

also leaving here since this is such a great tool https://idleontoolbox.com/

[summer glacier]

oh

thats cheap af

[swift hatch]

As I said. If you can unlock it, you can max it lol

[summer glacier]

the prayer before has 65m max cost I was expecting this to be more

[swift hatch]

ahh wait I am a dingus that's the singular level

forgot wiki is weird

[summer glacier]

poisonic elder about to be lvl 40 hopefully that would be enough came close a few times to holding them then its just a matter of time

[swift hatch]

so it's actually like closer to 2m

either way not a lot lol

[flint viper]

whats a good point or milestone to reach before going for superchows?

[opaque sun]

like around 5m/hr kills on gmush

[vagrant mountain]

having enough candies

[flint viper]

damn 5mil is pretty juicy

but i like that

[opaque sun]

If not getting 5m/hr on gmush, it means its too early (will use too many candies)

[flint viper]

yea i agree my 1.3m/hr would be a huge candy dump

[dapper prism]

thing is kph domino so quickly that you go from like 2m to 10m+ within like 1-2 months if even

[sick sentinel]

Didnt rly keep track but i think about 50-60 12 hr and maybe 30ish 4 hr or so. Between all characters averaged around 700 statues/hr

Warriors it was more statues for sure, and use single speed foods if u want

[dapper prism]

700 seems kinda low for dreadlo as an average, no?

[sick sentinel]

Its just a ballpark

Voulda been more or less

[vagrant mountain]

i think 1k+ if you can get 400%+ afk

[dapper prism]

pretty sure i had 1k+ throughout all, think 1 was a bunch less

[vagrant mountain]

and like 20x dr

[dapper prism]

even without 20x dr

most my alts would probably be 12-14x or so since afk keyschain/hat/wings etc

[tidal sky]

damn, honestly i will just active crystal on one and let the other afk there it is just too much candies

[vagrant mountain]

xd

you dont really need all that kachow anyways

[sick sentinel]

Only really helps for the dps shimmer trial

[dapper prism]

You got 4+ classes u can easily active on (2x DK, 2x ES) maybe even 2x SB while the others afk mine i guess

more quests = more skill effy too though 😄

[tidal sky]

of course i need it

[tidal sky]

that is not negligible it is additive?

[vagrant mountain]

each quest is 0.1% additive

i get like 12-13% on my chars

for their 120-130 quests

i think there are like 250 quests in the game?

so up to 25%~

[tidal sky]

wait def not 250 im just seeing i have 225 completed on my bb

[vagrant mountain]

idk i dont even have blunder hero

[dapper prism]

Even my BB that i thought had like basically 0 quests is at 150 xD

[tidal sky]

btw what is the hotbar to kill nkattle on bb? it seems awful to control the mobs and i just have about 100b dmg

[untold saffron]

think I only went round questing on one character for all the slab slots

[dapper prism]

you dont buff strength?

[tidal sky]

it is in another hotbar, i dont even know how the inflame works tbh

[untold saffron]

why would you need to buff strength? unless you're saying you're weak

[vagrant mountain]

its basically vman but your attacks cleave

[tidal sky]

damn then it is slow too

[vagrant mountain]

dont think you can auto it unless you have like 1T dmg

[dapper prism]

I have mine setup like: https://i.imgur.com/ChJyxjj.png

[queen lava]

Thats a lot of keys

[tidal sky]

u just get on fire and use that fire skill? and auto?

[dapper prism]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

Was lucky the other day 😄

[queen lava]

Holy balls

[hidden grove]

I strive to be as good as trickz

[queen lava]

Also, you have as much hp buffed as i have un-buffed

Maybe more

[dapper prism]

you mean debuffed?

[queen lava]

Sure

[shy flame]

is the damage bonus for clearing pet arena worth it?

[untold saffron]

you may as well get it

[dapper prism]

But sadly BB still not lvl 450 xD

[untold saffron]

every bonus is nice to have

[dapper prism]

Well you want fire buff (3rd on my bar) because (4th on my bar) is based on 3rd.

[queen lava]

And yet hes like 450x better than my lvl ~350 bb

[shy flame]

Yeah but I'm on like round 192 after 4 and a half hours or so and I think I'm literally getting one frame a second

[dapper prism]

although power and spiral might have more dmg for something like kattle tbh

[queen lava]

You have a desktop or laptop or mobile?

[shy flame]

desktop

I'm scared to open anything more intense than netflix

[queen lava]

Yeesh, specs? I wanna know what im up against

[muted bramble]

anyone got 120 yet ?

[dapper prism]

||https://i.imgur.com/808lHiQ.png||

Not that it does anything because 4th water isnt released yet

[muted bramble]

any use of it ? or just idle for now ?

[dapper prism]

maybe w6 bubbles

[untold saffron]

arena is just incredibly unoptimized. best bet is to manual whale to a safe level so it doesn't over-lag and use an empty server

[muted bramble]

oh i see

[tidal sky]

wth did not even see this was here

[muted bramble]

:/

[queen lava]

Lovely, well ive got a ways to go before i finish pet battles, im not even wave 50 rn

[queen lava]

Thats a lot of days

[dapper prism]

Squire talents used?

[shy flame]

give me a second for spec info

[muted bramble]

GAMER IDEA

[dapper prism]

After getting kattle Cape before-yesterday on 1st kill then another on 39th kill. My BB is on 109 and still dry. I need to complain because that's how you get a drop

[shy flame]

ryzen 5 3600, 16 gb DDR4 3200mhz, RX5700 XT

[queen lava]

Sssssuuurely my i7 12th gen, 3070 should be alright? 32 gigs ddr4?

[shy flame]

Probably, mine hasn't crashed yet, I built it just before the pandemic so I'm still using what I got for 2 more years at least

[dapper prism]

As i had to explain the other day to someone with 16gb ram, be sure to download more

[queen lava]

What do you think the frames will be like? Given i dont overclock my gpu

[shy flame]

Well, the sheet I looked at said if you have alchemic you put looter slot 3 instead of 4 and eventually the first 3 are supposed to die

A guy said the looter dying speeds it up quite a bit, whereas everyone on my team is completely fine

[untold saffron]

stacking badum to like 4k manually probably works out as faster to 200 than full auto

with how much it'll eventually lag the entire thing

[shy flame]

yeah, I am realizing that as I near 7k badum

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/06fb7c7fcaef7a030ddc2d0d0befd844.png

best roll yet

[flint viper]

what does an optimal obol setup look like? ive seen suggestions for VMAN and DK to have all DR obols. and the rest skilling obols but what skilling? like should ES have chopping obols or worship, what about BM?

[tidal sky]

Done it, it was easier than i imagined with that flame skill before it slowed u down but now it is decent combined with combustion, if only he could make mobs respawn it would be a fun active

[dapper prism]

My obols, Kattle can/should be DR on main classes like the usual stuff, just doing a bunch of gmush grind or something here:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

and family tree obviously full DR

[flint viper]

Appreciate this will save it later for some goals. This is very achievable but man that is a lot of work lol

[dapper prism]

Just focus on:
DR on Family
1-2 DR on ES or DK or both, i prefer both so i never need to move it.
============= Then:"
Some people keep construction obols on DK's. I only have it on 2nd DK, btw you can snapshot construction stuff.

I do have a 3rd set of DR in storage that i could use on Bubo I guess.
and SB who is just a gmush grinder main stats. Vman luck mixed with Card chance (cause of skilling cards atm)

[crude drum]

When I've literally just unlocked W5, do I just sit all 10 toons on Div until lvl 40? Or at least 5+ levels? Feels weird not playing at all.

[flint viper]

Yea i got DR for family filled out. How much does ES really benefit from DR? been wondering if wisdom would be better for more damage/bigger logging prints

no DR on VMAN for boss farms or you just swap over if you do that?

[dapper prism]

Keep 8/10 or 9/10 on it.
Vman could be skilling.
And play actively on one, best time to backtrack a lot of stuff

[next locust]

Don't worry about div levels yet. Unlock goat god asap, and then you can move back to lab/whatever

[dapper prism]

Read/check Pins for basic info

Also stuff you could backtrack for:
https://i.imgur.com/c1RhPXA.png

[crude drum]

ooh I missed the pins, was in the Tips/Tricks channel

Tyty

[dapper prism]

Just remember, XP is irrelevant*

You want div points for gods.

All that matters is getting to Goat+, the sooner the better

[crude drum]

Yea, I just wasn't sure if it was optimal to use all 10 toons from the start

[dapper prism]

If you can active, then active, since active is timegated content for certain things, so always try to active on 1 when you can 😄

[opaque sun]

9 guys at div and one doing active is fine too honestly

[dapper prism]

If you wont active, may as well toss them on div. Although Vman on skilling is often a good choice. (especially if not Rank 1's)

[muted bramble]

not me with Vman in lab lmao

[crude drum]

No vman yet, still maestro. Honestly didn't expect to open W5, just kinda hailmaryed it for fun earlier

[dapper prism]

Vman, maestro, potatoe potatooo. same thing :d

[crude drum]

LOL sry

[dapper prism]

(in terms of my point) having Rank 1 in skills for the effy hand buff

[opaque sun]

was skilling vman for skillage, but put him in lab now since his skillage was bottlenecked by trapping

[crude drum]

There's certain skills, like construction, where you just accept he won't be #1 right?

[muted bramble]

this my skilling right now

[opaque sun]

it doesnt affect construction anyway

[muted bramble]

with goated trophy

[crude drum]

I did not know that, thank you lol

[opaque sun]

construction doesnt have efficiency, and its not part of the “all skill exp”

[muted bramble]

affects W1 and W2 skills

[dapper prism]

and ~w3*

[muted bramble]

wait it does W3 ???

[next locust]

Trapping and worship

[opaque sun]

Its more tied to how the skill mechanic, not world

[muted bramble]

trap R9 is... making me regret some stuff...

[opaque sun]

vman should be aiming for trap/worship lvls anyway for vman’s side of talents

[dapper prism]

@crude drum btw, small "spoiler" but if you're still on maestro, be sure to use XP traps on him, pretty much forever. you won't regret it. (also always be sure to check IE for highest XP per charge on worship, and do worship for max xp on him) <- important for when you have vman

[crude drum]

Yup, I've managed him for everything except construction so that was my one hangup

[untold saffron]

is there a calculator to know what level 20.5% mutation chance is?

[crude drum]

Cooking and Lab don't matter either?

That's a load off my shoulders lol

[muted bramble]

my R1 trapping is 71 and my secondary ES somehow, and my Vman at R9 with lvl 51

is there a META for trapping like which trap to set for which goal ?

[crude drum]

I gotta get my maestro to 55 catching cause I was gone for a year with bowman on sentient cereal >.>

[dapper prism]

Royal for critters placed from BM
Nature for XP placed from vman

[muted bramble]

alright so i have to try and set up the Royal on every person i guess

except Vman

I'll have to math out the mats i guess

[fathom lagoon]

For rift 17, how do you get lava skulls to pop up? Is it just rng?

[muted bramble]

pretty much

[fast verge]

mine

[muted bramble]

i believe when you kill a Skull it has a 50% chance to upgrade

[fathom lagoon]

Yeah same so basically rng that it passes enough times to hit lava

[muted bramble]

that mining hurts me

[fast verge]

its ok i can get it up next time i do resample 👍

its ez anyways

[dapper prism]

Kinda, but dont use Bubo (or DK) on auto as both are risky to kill all mobs, meaning it wont bounce and go away

[fathom lagoon]

Oh you don’t want to kill all mobs? I’m using ES on auto rn

Hoping the wormhole spam gets me there

[dapper prism]

ES should be fine

Usually best tbh, ES and SB

And yeh, if you killed all the skull cant bounce to another mob so it goes away

[fathom lagoon]

Sweet I was planning on using both my Es’ lol

[fathom lagoon]

Ahh ok gotcha

[dapper prism]

YAyyyyy!

https://i.imgur.com/nkDrwYk.png

Guess getting a cape on first try, then 39, had to even out rng with this dry alt xD

[fathom lagoon]

Noiceee

[midnight shadow]

Help in fractal Island I get fishing exp not nothing hours

[dapper prism]

are you on mobile?

[scarlet bay]

I need to put my vman on skilling again

[fathom lagoon]

Nice got both my lava skulls already lol

[fast verge]

rift has been nice to me

[midnight shadow]

Yes mobile

[fast verge]

got r41 via 10b of damage lol

[tidal sky]

btw is there a way to stop main worshipper passing vman? even cripping as much as i can and vman with x20 + exp the main worshiper has reached the same level

[dapper prism]

Idk i just dont use Es talent often

Also plan around your worship. Use IE to get best xp/charge on mman/vman first

[tidal sky]

yeah that is what ive been doing, spend all vman charge first on best exp then main worship

[dapper prism]

My goal was also to get 100+ worship on all alts

https://i.imgur.com/Q2OSZ9Y.png

Vman in a nice lead

Could use 2nd ES talent some point instead of 1st ES

[tidal sky]

my situation is alarming, yeah i could use second ES true

[dapper prism]

Makes a huge difference if You focus on IE's XP/charge

https://i.imgur.com/8STjhVs.png

[tidal sky]

honestly i will just give up on that, worship eff is not even that great anyway and idk how much that bonus affect it, food% is always better idk

[dapper prism]

Either way you want to maximize vman talent because of his +% bonus from worship/trap levels

[tidal sky]

huh there is also that, well maybe this situation is only happening because i do not do cc on vman and he has to fill the whole bar

[muted bramble]

im trying ... im at 36

my SB cant get a score on flag...

[fast verge]

did u vman talent it

the enchance thing

[muted bramble]

the what

this ?

[fast verge]

yeah
idk why you cant then

weird

[muted bramble]

dmg to low probably

[fast verge]

i got it pretty easily

[flint viper]

I forgot to ask earlier how do you snapshot DK construction?

[flint viper]

the one right after that one is a struggle for me. killing the giant mob requires a lot of damage this time around

[muted bramble]

how many you gotta kill ?

[flint viper]

1 giant mob that heals on 4 dif chars

I got one kill on my ES

[muted bramble]

should be ez enough

got 2 ES and my DK

probably gonna use Bubo for fourth

[flint viper]

my bubo doesnt even scratch him. cant kill the small guys fast enough to have the cdr for aura

[muted bramble]

im slowly climbing the SB coins for flag

[scarlet bay]

i'm on the same rift level Kidd, lol

and my ES is the only one who got the kill as well

also, just unlocked chemical, so now i have to figure out what the chemical strats are

[muted bramble]

i cant kill the plunder mob ...

[wooden elk]

Go to cog page, switch back to towers, then switch to whoever will be active AFK, don't change maps.

[muted bramble]

i forgot how do you collect rift tear drop ??

is it just kills and hope ?

[wooden elk]

Yes

[muted bramble]

alright lets just alot on hope

[wooden elk]

DR helps, you can use either DK or ES

[scarlet bay]

lmao...

I didn't realize how much levels mattered for this talent

[muted bramble]

would it be considered madness to active Rift ?

[tiny drift]

Why?

[muted bramble]

no context, would it be madness tho

[tiny drift]

Nah, I’ll be chill af. Let ‘er rip

[muted bramble]

nice cause im basically fullying on Hope for rift at this moment

[tiny drift]

Bro, rift it asunder!!!

[muted bramble]

im kind of brain dead, so ill just assume Asunder means amazing for cultured people

[muted bramble]

but im doing this

dmg aint booming

[tiny drift]

Asunder - into pieces

How’s your damage worse than mine but your gear is better???

[icy jewel]

have you tried, checking your alchemy

[icy jewel]

lmao sorry had to do it

[muted bramble]

crazy what these bad boys do

[muted bramble]

its something i kind of not wanna look at xD

https://adesi.idleonefficiency.com

here roast me

I CAN TAKE

[icy jewel]

idk man

im at the point now my damage just increases and im not even sure why anymore

[muted bramble]

im probably the less efficient player in this chat

[oblique osprey]

Your alchemy isn’t that bad. Your stamps tho…..

[muted bramble]

priority all over the place

[muted bramble]

we dont mention those

[icy jewel]

LOL

[muted bramble]

is there a max lvl for stamp ?

[icy jewel]

its soft capped

becomes too much for inventory to hold

or at least thats what im experiencing at the moment

[bold quiver]

yes even with both cost reductions capped its too much to hold

like cant imagine someone carrying 1000m of catching or fishing items

[muted bramble]

im just trying to get the 3 tear drop on my main ES so i can switch to my other too and active the night and hope for a good rng into the night

[vagrant mountain]

my account looked like this when I first started too!

[muted bramble]

first started..... yeah, i started playing before W3 was even in the work i think

[shy flame]

this has taken 7 hours but it's finally going to be over and I can work on more important things like atoms and speedrunning

[muted bramble]

took me like 2h how in the F is that 7

[shy flame]

..... I accidentally clicked on the database tab and the run ended

[high owl]

pawg

[lapis mesa]

oof

[high owl]

wow that really sucks

[muted bramble]

why dont you use the other team set up ?

the one with the time freeze effect ?

[shy flame]

I didn't go into high performance mode earlier, which is huge when you start hitting a frame per second

[high owl]

snelbie build best build

[shy flame]

I wasn't aware of a snelbie team for rushing to 200

[muted bramble]

just reached that point... cant even make them reach 50% hp on my ES

if i remember right you just have to time stuff rly good early on and get some decent RNG and you are set for the run

took me like 10 tries max to get that max potential run and i went to eat at a diner and came back at like 205

[flint viper]

i told you that guy is beefy

[muted bramble]

just my ES cant target for Shiit

[flint viper]

yea i had to get lucky with meteors hitting him

[shy flame]

Ah, that was my first attempt at 200, so I kinda know the team I'm using works, probably too well since the first 3 are supposed to die

[flint viper]

my SB is my highest damage and he still cant kill him

[muted bramble]

would probably help if i didnt have portal on xD

[flint viper]

yea i got it when i took portal off lol

What is a good ring to put on all my guys before im ready to buy flurbo shop rings for everyone

[muted bramble]

these bad boys got me to W5

xD

still running them on my first toon i created

[flint viper]

yea im still rocking iron rings on some guys lol

[opaque sun]

they didnt contribute, but still gets credit for it

[muted bramble]

peak performance

[shy flame]

yeah, just the +afk boost rings basically, the flurbo rings are kinda too juicy to be beat out by much

[muted bramble]

alright time for bed

[empty ridge]

Dang what you guys doing to get your DR so high?

[hardy bloom]

will mobs that spawned from event items (oyster or letter) have a chance to spawn crystal mob?

[high owl]

anyone know what the lowest achievable crystal spawn chance is?

or highest rather, I guess

[flint viper]

technically there is no lowest since the crystal chance tower can be forever leveld up

but realistic im not sure

[fossil urchin]

i've seen 1/25

[high owl]

gotcha, yeah I forgot about the shrine when considering it

1/25 seems to be the consensus

[flint viper]

damn 1/25 is crazy. im at 1/57 and it feels crazy

[fossil urchin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1141032802939306014/1151360579374686308/image.png

[flint viper]

Wish I had the card doubler chips to see how much a boost those are

[high owl]

yeah I'm at 1/57 too

[brisk bay]

do shiny pets have a max level?

[little sedge]

I think they have theoretical skills maxes. Since it eventually is like 2000 days

[brisk bay]

ok

[junior delta]

Is there any point goin further then 200

[shy flame]

About as much a point as taking a photo with your phone instead of a screenshot, just to tease

[mild merlin]

Bragging rights I guess

[solid epoch]

aight im finally home to check my ES keys/hr rates. earned 307 heys in 4 hrs and 16 mins. so 71.8 keys/hr

[junior delta]

Just woke up after letting it sit all night , didnt open discord on oc so i just took a pic

[solid epoch]

so its prob very slightly better than dk for keys rn but not for other stuff

i might farm with it when i get to 100T dmg if im just trying to grind out as many keys as possible

[junior delta]

So i just nees to close the arena? Or let them die

[mild merlin]

Let them die

I think leaving the arena cancels it so your best wave won't count

[shy flame]

turn off auto use abilities and they'll be dead quicker than a slug in a plate of beer

[opaque sun]

Leaving is fine, it counts in real time

just note that its best wave ‘cleared’, not ‘reached’. So if you leave at wave 200, it will only count as cleared 199

[willow cairn]

Are plants in gaming just incredibly unlikely to go above the 4th rank? I have 2 5th tier in my plant history, but no matter how much progress I allow my plants to get, I never see any reach that tier again and I'm so confused

[untold saffron]

each tier is a lot rarer than the last yes

[rich crest]

What's the best way to active grind money?

[eternal dove]

is it dk or es supposed to be used for accuracy statues at wood mush

[mild merlin]

I think acc statues from wood mush aren't in the rare bags so probably ES would be better

[eternal dove]

they are in rare bag

[mild merlin]

But DK crystal farming would probs get more accuracy statues

Then just use DK ig

[eternal dove]

i thought crystals dont have acc statues in tables

[mild merlin]

Don't crystals have all of the world's rare bag items

Could you check the crystal carrots card mby

[eternal dove]

all but accuracy

also would wood mushs be better or nuttos bc spawns

[opaque sun]

bulls eye is specifically from tree mobs

Is why DK not so good on bullseye

[opaque sun]

For active, ES ignores bad mob layout, so mush due to better base drop chance

For afk, nutto is better

[eternal dove]

so then es on woods?

id have figured dk at nuttos bc rare drop table and i could pump way higher orb kills on nuttos than woods

[opaque sun]

Common misinformation is that “DK is good for rares” which is wrong. DK is good at any drops from crystals, just that crystals have lot of rare loot bag.

Es has a better drop rate mechanic than DK orb, but issue is it doesnt get applied to crystals

So the real thing is “DK for any drops from crystals”, “ES for any drops from regular mobs unless crystals also drops them too”

Unless the DK can get like peak orb kills of 800-900 on nutto, ES wormhole on wood mush does way better

[daring ravine]

The ES mechanic works only on the portal mobs to be specific

[opaque sun]

Wormhole mobs that uses same drop tables as regular mob, yes to be very specific

[versed cypress]

i have always wondered why do ppl think that rare drop tables are not affected by ES DR portal ability

[ocean fox]

I know the answer is to infinity but what is a good call me bob bubble level to stop at? I know it scales linearly but it's also diminishing returns right?

[shy flame]

1hr 30 minutes to clear pet arena after my very poorly handled first attempt of 7+ hours

[eternal dove]

just got my 2nd balljoepickle. guess its time to go for that vial upgrade

[opaque sun]

i assume the word “DK for rares” spread through out genchat while they skipped typing “-since crystals drops many viable rare drops”

[versed cypress]

probably, i just wonder where did the notion that the rare bags were not affected by DR at all that a lot of players seem to have came from, cause a lot of ppl think the rare bags loot tables are considered crystal drops even when they are on the base mobs card info

[opaque sun]

lot of information gets warped when it goes through genchat filter

[inland mist]

why this is the case? Can someone explain please

[pearl quail]

Click gem shop

[inland mist]

aah thanks

[vagrant mountain]

just accidentally deleted one of my best cogs

[opaque sun]

All artifacts need a map refresh to update the number when obtaining a new one

[daring ravine]

Time to go cause a desync!

[vagrant mountain]

this will have to do

[keen berry]

Is this even works? +100 talent library, i checked it's still 245, not 345.
.

[frosty shore]

ups library level, not book levels

[keen berry]

What's that suppose to mean?

[frosty shore]

you can use construction to level up the library building 100 more times

[keen berry]

Ah... dang

[vagrant mountain]

[weary sonnet]

Guys, explain to me, it turns out I can disconnect the deities 2 times in a week?

[azure spindle]

that's just how it is, it was once on release but was a QoL change added during an update

[weary sonnet]

After week 2 of the life of replacing the deities, the deities are renewed, right?

[azure spindle]

I'm not 100% certain what you're asking here so just gonna take a stab from context but both deity changes should refresh on weekly reset

[opaque sun]

you can reset multiple gods at once per using 1 reset btw

Its not one character per use of unlink

[weary sonnet]

That is, 2 changes of deities for one character per day or each has two charges per week?

[azure spindle]

the whole account has 2 deity changes per week

which is why if you want to disconnect you want to figure out what needs to change and do it all together

[opaque sun]

When you use an unlink, you can select many characters at once before pressing the final “unlink”

You get 2 “unlink” charges on your week rotation

I was just worried maybe you didnt know this and was using one unlink charge per character, thus taking so many weeks to change gods

[scarlet bay]

there's no reason to do active skilling if you have over 100% afk gains, is there?

I saw it

[lost sentinel]

Wakey wake

[opaque sun]

active skilling gives more exp due to multi ore works on exp ONLY if active. But else not much reason to active skill as its waste of opportunity cost of “you could have farmed active on a DK”, and also no rare drops

[uncut bear]

My max for all skills is total lvl of 1000

[solid hollow]

i just unlocked Artics (bear) - should i keep going with divine on all my chars (except 1 active) or should i start to push W4/W5 with my chars so they get some bigger levels? 🤔 i kinda feel a bit lost at this point tbh. 👀 not even sure what my active char should do...

pets feels like a mess, Deathnote isn't properlly done, (i should candy those with blood Beserker but like... i feel my multikills and dmg isn't there...) and yeah .-. i am a bit lost here :/

[granite grove]

now push w5 with maybe 1 or 2 character while other chars try to work on various progress

DN though maybe could wait a bit ig

for DN you will get free 2m anyway if you pushed for vman class, it should do wonders for early w5 stage

[solid hollow]

i heard you need like 20 mil dmg for a proper W5 push, but i hain't gotten that lol

[frosty shore]

are you intending to active or afk push?

and which char did you use to open w5?

[solid hollow]

this dude here

[frosty shore]

he'll do fine active pushing w5, you probably want to keep your guys on divinity to unlock nobisect, the insect god really helps with portal opening

[solid hollow]

i farmed some stuff like the past few days but eh... i feel like nothing rly is it

[frosty shore]

w5 cards have some really strong passive bonuses

[granite grove]

i think you should work towards chizoar gear now, also use silver rings with w5 stones if you want welfare opal rings

[opaque sun]

just work on w1-w4 skills. You dont have to push through w5 for now

[frosty shore]

yeah you probably should get chizoar helm, and re-upgrade your gear with w5 stones

[opaque sun]

dont expect to push through w5 like how you were able to do w4

[frosty shore]

i think you would enjoy getting your DK more levels back at shellies?

[solid hollow]

i rly hain't got the salt for that...

[frosty shore]

if you really need to, you can farm for neutron rings at rams

[solid hollow]

i feel salt is such a mess, i can't even finish any rift tasks, i got to almost 400 kills but 500 seems so far lol

[frosty shore]

but its better to do dungeon for opal rings

i didn't start on rift until i had about 10-12m damage

[opaque sun]

at that stage you probably need other dungeon upgrades before going opal

[solid hollow]

opal rings as in "The Emperor's Opal"? i rly dislike to do dungeons though...

[frosty shore]

you should try using the party finder channel, you can find some really good help there

[solid hollow]

i just push myself to do 1 happy hour a week and thats it lol

[frosty shore]

yeah that's a good idea

[opaque sun]

joining a random group during happy hour is usually enough

Like if you didint buy the dubgeon ticket gem shop item, you will run out of boosts abyway

[solid hollow]

yeah i didn't lol

[opaque sun]

And there is no point if going dungeons when you are out of dungeon boosts

[solid hollow]

and as i said, i rly won't do that, i left the game for 2 years when that thing dropped lol

[frosty shore]

you must have tons of stacked dungeon boosts then...? not sure how it works

[solid hollow]

nope

when i came back i had like 70

so maybe it only stacks for a few weeks or so

🤷‍♂️

so i guess just push a bit of W5? With what goal...? Just cards?

[frosty shore]

the w5 crystal mob gives divinity % xp

which really helps with divinity gains

try to do some easy merit shop stuff so you can get the gaming/sailing/divinity gain % reward

!w5

!w5merit

at least that's what i did

[solid hollow]

😂

i also have almost no progress in W4 skills 👀 my merit shop there is the pure hell - and the quests feeld a bit impossibe idk lol all is related to pets and i hain't feel like i am making progress on cooking or pets

[frosty shore]

wo

i just unlocked goat god off a 10%

i need to redo a bunch of stuff now haha

[frosty shore]

yeah my w4 merit is also really weak

i just got nblb to max and have none leftover haha

[acoustic marten]

yo guys, quick question. all pets in this comp are 10-12k power. should i let it run and leave for work so it carries me to 200? or will it not make the 200 even with given time?

[opaque sun]

Like 6th isnt going to make it much faster so just continue with that

[icy atlas]

what is the best class for w5 portal farming

[opaque sun]

like a chopper or a catcher to make use out of actually progressing through w5

But at your point i would say “dont try to push through w5 like you did with rushing w4. Go back and do some skills”

Whats most important is unlocking w5 town. W5 combat zones can be left for much later

[rare mist]

Where the hell are Mousey I'm in world 5 and still havent found them

[tacit tulip]

Best advice you can give. Many people push portals for the sake of doing it, that can often be a mistake

[astral vapor]

did you progress through the w3 hunter quests?

[rare mist]

hmm

[granite grove]

hint: sewers

[rare mist]

they aint there

[opaque sun]

mouse and rats

[astral vapor]

then you didnt do the quests

go to w3 town and head left

[opaque sun]

Trap critters are unlocked via quests

Its not “they are just there”

[astral vapor]

unlocked critter shoudl have a wanted poster on the trees

[rare mist]

still dont have the scorpion Shiny =,=

gues i hope i get scorpion critter special soon

[tacit tulip]

Don't forget to can use traps that specifically increase shiny chance

[rare mist]

yea im also stuck on souls so

dont have T3

T4 gear

[unreal fox]

[lost depot]

When Lava coded the islands he screamed "It's Idleon time!" and Idleon'ed all over us

[unreal fox]

"its feature not bug" dev said

[opaque sun]

fractal last anyways. You get more fractal progress by unlocking crystal island first due to more candies overall

[tacit tulip]

Unless you dump all that candy into gmush

[daring ravine]

its gonna awfully long so just stay and wait
but PLEASE
check your IE when you want to leave because of how slow does the game proccesses that a round has changed so that you wont end up with a 199 wave highscore

[loud idol]

any tip to kill this mf with a BB?

[gentle furnace]

get more dmg or do it the same way as vman

[loud idol]

so it seems. Vman was stressfull haha

[opaque sun]

BB on auto isnt that bad. Sure it gets fews moles through but it can out dps it most of the time unless you really suck at damage

[sonic radish]

hello darkness my old friend

[willow sorrel]

does anyone know how much dmg is needed to get past rift 44, getting wormhole score of 60

[tidal sky]

i believe ppl said at least 140b dmg

[willow sorrel]

damn thanks

[serene solstice]

you can ''cheese'' wormhole kills a little bit

[willow sorrel]

how so

[serene solstice]

when you spawn in rift go left under the rope and spawn your wromhole there

so meteors spam more on the little space

[willow sorrel]

ohh ok

[serene solstice]

so more dmg on all mobs

[willow sorrel]

im still only at 50B dmg anyway

so i guess ill come back to it

[tidal sky]

you can try and see how far you are from it, that was only an estimate i believe the actual value is lower

[willow sorrel]

yea i just tried without the 'cheese' method and got 31

[serene solstice]

I think 80-100b dmg would work too with the ''cheese''

[willow sorrel]

for now ES goes back to w3

[tacit tulip]

Attack talent level is very important too

[willow sorrel]

my talent levels are decently high, 200-210 base all around, just waiting on eldritch of the artifact until i max all talents out

[acoustic marten]

oh okay, thanks for the info. its still going hahah

[daring ravine]

IE checks what the actual game thinks about you so if you go to round 200 and leave right away the game counted as if you had round 199 or less

[acoustic marten]

but its not lagging hard or anything, perfomance mode ++

[acoustic marten]

i thought i had to complete round 200 to get the bonus? is reaching it enough? it wasnt for 50 etc

[sick sentinel]

Yeah beat 200

[daring ravine]

if youre planning to completly quit the game because of how the awful lag gets, only do when this (in IE) updates to 200

[sick sentinel]

But waiting for ie or IT to update your max wave helps make sure you got it

[acoustic marten]

ah now i get it, yeah sure. but its not lagging hard at all for me. im on pc, high performance on. running quite smoooth

[tacit tulip]

Nice 🙂

[tidal sky]

just created courage will try the nkattle with vman i even deposited 20k pow statues for crit

[sacred verge]

GL, that will be some time

[tacit tulip]

Honestly at nearly 100b not too long

[sick sentinel]

Nah like 5 min if even

[sacred verge]

nvm

[tacit tulip]

Especially with the crit statues

[sacred verge]

i read it wrong lol

i thought it was 9 bill

[tidal sky]

done it, well it seems i just blasted that lol

[sick sentinel]

True that wiuld take a good chunk of the day lol

[sacred verge]

yeah lol

[tidal sky]

it seems i had been over prepared

[tacit tulip]

Most of the estimated timed were before the crit statues too

[acoustic marten]

yeaaaaah booois

did not know it just continues after that hahah. is there anything else to get after 200?

[tacit tulip]

Nah just confirm it's done on IE like the others mentioned, and you're free from arena

[vivid plume]

Question what are the chances of a rift tear dropping??

[tidal sky]

i imagine, that must have made a gigantic difference, having 5x crit + is so good

[tacit tulip]

It's more or less another mega crit ontop of what we already had. 100 points into megacrit adds 4 to your crit dmg multi, so you were doing 9.56x with that setup

[tidal sky]

that is wild

[pallid topaz]

hi anyone know how to get past 175% movement speed threshold?

[tidal sky]

pot

[tacit tulip]

it's due to how the 175% cap works on certain sources

[umbral tapir]

Man,W2 statue farming is terrrrrible

[tacit tulip]

Say you have 150% speed, and gain +25% from lab chips, capping you at 175%

you need to get +26% speed from other sources in order to get to 176%

[daring ravine]

chips are 30%

[tacit tulip]

yeah, but it'll cap them at 175%

kinda the point

[pallid topaz]

i was trying to equip another or 2 green potion, but still not increasing and capped at 175%

[tacit tulip]

then, as it stands, your speed without those 175% capped bonuses is too low

[pallid topaz]

ah you mean i need to increase mybase speed?

[tacit tulip]

basically, my advice would be to uniqeuip all your speed lab chips

and see how the potions effect your speed

[elfin idol]

the tp trick worked for me, have a character there and log into him after leaving town on another

its described in reddit comments on googling acheivement iirc

[tacit tulip]

If you wanna make BIG speed gains the primary way to do this is via the food statue, which boosts speed potions

[elfin idol]

i toyally misread the convo lmao ignore me

[pallid topaz]

acutally im not equipping speed chip atm tho

[tacit tulip]

there's some other sources of temp speed too

like the sigil, or salt lick

[untold lintel]

what team should i use for pet arena when i only got 4 slots?

[tacit tulip]

Pretty much exactly what it says on the tin. If a boat says 1000 loot, it brings back 1000 in a normal chest

if you upragde it, the amount it brings back is exactly what it shows

[pallid topaz]

allright thanks for the advices @tacit tulip

[crystal ginkgo]

Should I be doing Monolith on multiple characters?

[tacit tulip]

Yes, but you only need it for the crit DMG statues

[tidal sky]

im trying to understand what happens with this crit statue i have to open on all chars?

[willow cairn]

How high of a score have you guys managed to get in poing? I'm debating whether I wanna go really hard on it until I get a really lucky run, but idk how well it scales so idk if its actually worth grinding it out

[tidal sky]

my score is 2887 🤡

[tacit tulip]

It's the only BIG source of the statue, so you just want it to level up the statue is all

[fading cape]

after a lot of practice I hit like 8k. haha. Gave up after that

[willow cairn]

I think mine was like 6.6k

[tidal sky]

im getting a weird behavior, every time i open the statue ui on other chars it is lvling the crit statue to 114,

[iron mesa]

Around 23k-24k

[tacit tulip]

Why is that weird behaviour?

[teal lynx]

Max score should be 25k on Pong imo. Enough for the Achievment
But honestly I didn't bother with it due to the lags

[tidal sky]

shouldn't it already applies to all characters once deposited on one? it seems the bonus only goes u when i open that ui idk

[willow cairn]

Mmm so I could get like .8 more multiplier if I get 20k more score XD sounds like a struggle

[teal lynx]

Yes. You need to unlock it tho
Bottom Right Box in Imports gives you Pong

[abstract pendant]

Every little bit helps

[willow cairn]

Yeah gaming is a struggle

[abstract pendant]

Just rolled 2x my highest nugget 15 mins ago

[willow cairn]

It feels impossible to get past green bits without hitting like a crazy nugget right now

[teal lynx]

[untold lintel]

how can I easily get eggs for breeding?

[gaunt forge]

when people refer to "hourly clicks" i know this means upgrading alch bubbles every hour, but is there a certain method of doing so? whats the actually process of that

[gentle furnace]

w4 colo

[teal lynx]

W4 Colosseum. Miniboss in last wave drops them. Use DK Orb and high Dr for more Eggs

[teal lynx]

You get a high enough Sample so every proc of 3D Printer gives you 1B of Oak, Copper etc

[willow cairn]

My biggest one is only x8.6k

[teal lynx]

Like this 408m times 6. Is Like 2.4B an Hour

[gaunt forge]

@teal lynx so that is still giving u decent atoms but also consistent hour clicks on the first bubbles

[teal lynx]

Yeah. But honestly I just click when I remember. I don't bother with setting a timer and clicking those Bubbles like other people

[gaunt forge]

https://gyazo.com/74851cb48d4ae05bd2bc3f015b7869db

looks like i got alot of work to do lol

[teal lynx]

Getting 10 Levels a Day is enough for me

With a second Oak Sample like this you could start clicking Str Bubble

[gentle furnace]

don't forget skill mastery, dk talent and sailing artifact

[gaunt forge]

is there a atom collider upgrade priority? ive just been leveling up everything as i can but im ignoring the pens since that seems kinda useless since im "done" with po box's

[fading cape]

what is max meal level in cooking with eldritch artifact?

[mild merlin]

60 I think?

[gentle furnace]

60

[fading cape]

rad

thought I was doing great at level 40 meals. Lol. Not even close

[gaunt forge]

are there people that have maxed out cooking yet?

thats a scary thought

[tacit tulip]

Some of the earlier plates are

But I don't think anyone has the last ones done

Theres still 3 more plates left unreleased too

Which will buff up diamond/atom chefs and the vman talent

[hollow wasp]

what exactly does this do? it seems like it does nothing

[tacit tulip]

It's how quickly it launches the balls

Like the gap between balls

Just gets them onto the field quicker, still bounces down the same speed

[hollow wasp]

i see. is there a chance i dont have to click thousand times?

like auto shoot

[robust bolt]

I think it was just hold the button for a few seconds

[hollow wasp]

lol