#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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was at 52 before so ill take it
65 seems pretty tough to reach, i mightve missed an easy portal though idk
is that with the boss kill (troll nightmare) at first cheese?
cleared 3 portals in w5 and reached biggole wurms
wait how r u supposed to get to troll nightmare?
Speedrun starts the moment you press the talent, not after teleporting to gmush
ah so u can press it and hit him and get +3 portals?
So there is a brief second you can kill nightmare troll out of the void during the brief moment you teleport out
basically yes
dang good to know, then looks like 65 will not be far away
Can also do on nightmare kattle if you are really good with damage to one shot, but for practicality its done on troll for extra 3 portals
might even be doable tomorrow since i gained 22% multikill per tier just now from that run
aside from carry cap stamp and prayer, any other ways to increase carry cap? im trying to get to 165m for multitooll 200
i can prob 1 shot kattle lemme check
its not like you gonna reach troll normally anyway
are you guys using atoms for quick slap? or Mman's prints?
in the future when we have more book levels (longer duration) and reliably reach troll during the run, nm kattle start will be viable
Both
im doing both
Mman printing comb and coconut
quick slap giving 16.3M base dmg now
what lvl?
5715
Per whatever speed
1341% movespeed
Thats lot of statues i suppose
eh i havent farmed it as much as some people
What lvl do i get my chars in div ?
Im lvl 5 on all
push all as high as u can, all mine are around lvl 100+
higher lvl = bigger minor bonuses
Id say aim for 140+ and relatively high big p to get 100%+ minor link effect
100% minor link effect means full talent levls from arctis
yeah ive recently been workin on that, most my chars sitting on the altar again
not much else to do now anyway
was a good byproduct while i got god rank 4. Everyone in my family is div lv130-150
My gold and bits are low so i dont get much boost for the points
And im on god 4 rn
25% got me both 3 and 4
i should try to push my div stamp higher, its only lvl 80 rn
nice! yeah just keep unlocking all the rest of the gods, by the time ur done unlocking them all, ur chars should be at a decent lvl
i spent like 2-3 weeks at the start of w5 with almost all of my guys sitting on the altar
best class to farm this recipe? vman or ES? active
anybody know how much chopping eff/afk I need for 1b sample?
im closing in on 600m sample
I had about 2T for my 1.1b sample
Hi alguna forma de ponerlo en espaรฑol?
damn ok
english por favor
that sample had like 417% afk
:O
i think i have like 350
i have no afk keychains and i need idleskilling trophy
maybe its time to sample
i keep telling myself, "after this"
dang so using this method i could improve my vman print too, since id be killing 4 bosses instead of 3
guess i gotta resample
last time i tried to hyper focus w4 i made it to flombeige, wonder if i can do 5 bosses then sample if i get some more dmg
do you have the w4 ring?
yeah got 2 of em
and w3 rings?
yeah 2 of em
nice
thats the only thing i could think of to eek out some extra portals
yeah i was using those
getting to stilted might be possible currently for me but idk if id have enough time to run to boss and resample
because last time the annoying part of pushing through w4 was waiting for mobs to respawn
are you only using your multikill buff in w3+?
with the bonus mob respawn instantly at the start from the kattle 1 shot maybe its doable
yeah last time i tried it, i just kept my 2 w4 rings on and focused on w4 while swapping down to do w1 and w2 when the ability was on cd
then id equip the w3 rings in w3 but idk if i finished w3 tho
when i was pushing floms
so maybe its not doable lol
might need 1Q dmg on vman or something
i still have some more sources of MK per tier im missing though that might help some
theres probably some breakpoints for how much multikil you need to kill everything in one or two map spawns
but I lack the brain wrinkles for tthat kind of thing
Hey guys, too tired to test rn... Do you need the lab bonus for world shrines active for the Moai Head sailing artifact to work?
no but you need it to get exp
- reaching 65 portals for that extra +11% mk per tier, then maybe ill try it. should be over 10T by then
Dope, thats awesome
Not gonna lie. Getting tired of waiting for the last pet.
once i beat arena i fully stopped breeding normal pets til i had a couple of the shinies i wanted lol
trying to get all the inf star signs done
Probs best to aim for all pets unlocked, never know when an update drops and u want em
do infinite starsigns include the negative effect?
No, it even says it doesn't in the description
I should read ๐ค

You already waited this long, almost there champ
why do i have 0% speed when i got 377 items over 500?
refresh map
Leave the map and go back in
ah ty
Does multi-kill affect sample sizes?
is the whole reason why vman gets crazy amounts of samples during the speed run
I didnโt even think about sampling while doing a speed run
Imagine if it didn't
the main use of speed run is void samples. Portal opening is just like once in a blue moon after lava adds some max book levels update
I thought the main purpose was because lava didnt know how to make Vman an actual class so made him a minigame
in a way its the worst sampling that requires many more preparation
If you forgot to open up the sample slots and started the speed run, rip. Next day
Not during speed run
You cant open printer from quick slot
I'm pretty sure printer unlocks in quick menu after you get to w3 during speedrun
Its kind of your fault to place speed run talent on hotbar on a skilling preset
tasty reprint day 
very good
how does one get a few trillion skill efficiency
when you say level 400k first bubbles, you mean level the very first bubble to 400k?
a few thousand, hes trolling
i apoligize, snarky tonight
yeah u will want to work on increasing ur mage chopping bubbles up using atoms at first
i guess this achievement is impossible with the vman talent...right? https://i.imgur.com/ZsIESR6.png
Yes
then with those u can get a decent chop sample so u can start hourly clicking the bubble 1's
yeah, have to unspec it first
i see! Thanks ๐
its amazing how far down your forge production goes when you have your two sbs on different skilling tasks
what unlocks using atoms on bubbles? I'm still at a measly 850k oak log sample so new relative to a lot of folks who talk here
as soon as its costs 100m for the bubble in any resource
if u cant afford the atom cost, id start by pushing mage bubble 2 up using atoms
i boosted to lvl 500 with atoms
one more level for that one and i get to atom range
Ah, I need to do a sample during speedrun to really go ham like that
after ur around lvl 500, just work on the next mage chopping bubble
so then this one
dont forget the bargain tags are a thing.. they are so helpful around the 50-60 million cost areas
you can get to the atom cost for like.. 15 mil instead of 175m
dont use atoms on the first bubble though since those are easy to farm and u will eventually be hourly clicking them
better to use on hard stuff to get, its why bubble 2/3 are nice atom options since they are a mob mat and smithing mat
ah but what unlocks being able to use atoms to level bubbles
Thanks, I'll look up the atoms on the wiki
specifically the boron atom
which is the 5th upgrade
you will def want to focus on maxing it all the way to 20, since getting more atom upgrades each day is huge
any time u upgrade it make sure to go back to alchemy and spend ur atoms again, because it resets ur daily amount when u upgrade
so u can spend all atoms for the day, upgrade and spend again on the same day
Boron is the next unlock for me but I think I need to work on more foundational stuff before I can really make use of it
yeah even just getting it unlocked will be good enough, bubble 2 isnt very expensive atoms wise
just start there
after a few upgrades of that, u could prob resample ur chopping to increase ur atom gain
I have +6 infinite stars from shiny pets, but my actual number of infinite stars hasn't increased since I unlocked infinite signs. am I missing something to actually see the pet bonuses?
you should be getting it, just the order of infinite star isnt exactly the order they are linked on the starsign
Its in the order of whatever lava ordered in his database
is there a breakdown somewhere for how infinite stars work?
unlock the rift, level up the proper shiny pets, and that's about it xD
- the penalty of infinite starsign is permanently disabled
- assigning an infinite starsign does nothing on its own
- the positive effect of infinite starsign can be doubled if using double chip and specifically assigning it
Ah thanks, I read the explainer but also didn't really take anything in from it
cant believe i only failed 3 times yoloing back up to 19 fro m15
Is it worth investing in shiny pets for infinite star signs? I kinda feel like there's a lot of shiny pets in general that I need, like the ones that give multikill, additional bonus from meals, skill effiency, etc.
Focus shiny rate first, then infinite stars
definitely aim for shiny pet leveling first
Infinite starsign is like the main bonus of shinies
Rest are just supplementary after maxing infinite starsign
is it possible to get all infinite star sign?
aight thanks only few more left for me
I feel like I'm missing something about infinite starsign, it didn't seem super great compared to like skill/stamp mastery
Roughly need lv5 in all of those infinite starsign pets and maybe lv6 in one of them
also what is the best chopping bubble in order?
you get 2 infinite per pet level right
most of my chopping bubbles at lvl 300
you definitely need at least 1 shiny pet to lvl6 to hit all star signs
and the rest need to be lvl5
Nice name, watching one piece atm xD
i have 3 pets on level 6 for infinite star sign xD
Basically its like assigning all starsigns, how can that not be good
hey w5 chat, what y'all reckon?
asigning all starsigns with out the negatives
okay that does sound good, I'm kinda dumb, just figured out yesterday I could set it so my peeps use their skills when on auto
can someone answer? cuz i want to get 1b prints aswell
its big boost of damage alone as those free damage stsrsigns
im desperately waiting for the new chapter to drop. so many breaks lately cause of the live action haha, i need to know what happens next
I asked something like this earlier and was advised bubble 2 then bubble 1
just use the graph on #1084911530417606656 and do it based on % bubble efficiency
i think thats if you cant afford the other bubbles? no?
You came all the way to w5 with normal attacks only? Wow
Although some will be more beneficial, don'tneglect the others
Only on auto, and I manually clicked the skills
the hard cap ones?
which basically means no active farming
next up you'll learn you can use keyboard keys for attacks ๐
wow okay I feel attacked, I know I can use keyboard keys to like move and I think r make you do an attack

what level is severapurple hard capped?
my active farming has improved a lot in the past 24 hours
all your so-called farming with normal attacks cannot be considered โactive farmingโ
normal attacks and manually clicking skills is literally the most active you can be when actively farming

which is why I'm glad I no longer have to click skills
but if u had auto turned on then it would use them anyways?
I bet you were like โwhy people say ES/DK best for faming? Obviously its vman!โ
I don't know if it's set up like that by default, but everything is better now
Honestly i cant believe that it would take 7 months to realize that auto actuallt autos ๐คท
no I just farmed on them manually clicking skills ๐
i mean in fairness the setting is turned off by default, but i dont know how it would take so long to check your game settings
yeah we all have little brothers to click while we sleep and go to work
ok, so the infinite stars didn't actually display until I closed and restarted the game. once I did that I could see the +6 infinite signs
ah right, forgot setting had a toggle for that
โWhy everyone is so crazy with 200 tenteyecle on bubo?! Who can ever click skills that fastโ
sounds like wave 200 arena before auto was a thing haha
I feel like y'all are assuming I'm smart when I already claimed idiocy
Had a paper weight sized little brother to hold the 1 key for pre-auto arena
I've been playing since late 2022 so it's more like 10 months by now ๐
And converter was a thing
i know it's nothing compared to the higher waves, but this is actually taking forever doing like 1m/min
(also 1hp and a dream)
I did it. I got choco chip from the shop gacha, and I finally understand how it is to get a lot more statues. 10 minutes and I have a tenth of what I collected over like 3 nights leaving the game active.
choco chip is the reason i cant turn the game off 
beans have turned into some kind of sick addiction
how much run time does ur pc have now then?
feel ya on that one man, 200k power statues is no joke
idk it hasnt turned off in months
show ur task manager
almost a month 
My pc soon going to have a nice 2 week hiatus xD
surely you must have a beast of a pc
it can handle es?
no

3070 Ti and 16gb RAM not enough
did lava capped the game's limit?
You gotta download more ram..
https://i.imgur.com/oRGkktb.png
lmao
Anyone know what could be causing this on my second moniter?
gpu or ur screen is dying
Probably didn't download the proper ram

Happened while I was playing no man's sky one the other screen while idleon was on this one
have you tried replugging stuff and checking ur gpu?
how hot is your computer lol
oh yea that lol
Not that hot. . .
still hot tho
Lol a meme I made for an awful character in a game that sucked the life out of that game because it was broken
That hurts so much to see
yea if your room has no air-conditioning and stuff and it's also summer
you can probably cook a whole medium rare steak in there
Lol light show!!! Upon initating computer restart

Just on the second monitor though lol
could just be your monitor
try replugging ur monitor
try blowing on it
try putting it in rice
i heard you're supposed to ice it in these situations
Lol
have you tried a cold towel on your forehead?
You guys know what we f need ??
might need kool fever
Best suggestion ever
that cold thing you put in ur forehead
What we need
I like to draw a pentagram underneath me before I put it all on red
A f portal lock so you dint exit by accident on f bosses
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sounds like a skill issue
Struggled for a whole f hour had a little under 20 b or trillion what ever the boss had
jk
And fat finger tapped the portal
the ES that could||n't||
shouldve just auto'd
Whole hour gone of struggling
Not with my damage lmao
Anyways just had to vent I'm go cry in shower and sleep.
NOOOO
don't sleep
that's gonna be a painful sleep
@placid mural hows the monitor?
Still fritz good lol
lol
might be RIP monitor
yea
Since it's just the one monitor and not both, it's not anything else right?
yeah probably the LEDs died or something
should always try to look for other stuff
How does the progress count for this? Do you have to kill5 bloqes, then 5 mamooth, etc etc? or 1 bloque, mammoth, etc, 5 times? and wtf is the 7?
it could also be a connection issue
since it's a hardware problem
up to you to decide though, if the monitor is old then it could have just died but computer monitors generally last 5+ years
no way they all died simultaneously
yeah the screen did change so it makes me think it might just be a connection issue
also depends on what type of monitor it is
!ie
https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger#6559
is that fixed i cant tell if bad camera or its good
what did you do?
Lol smudgy lense, that better?
any1 know how to do this achieve
?
yes, kill 5 of each
5 of each in order
Looks like you have already done 7 of whichever you are on right now
it'll take a while
The 7 means you did the first 5 and 2 of the next
oooh ok
Listen to trucido
gotcha. ty gentlesirs
I've just been sitting here watching it on my phone. Not clicking anything, nothing, just watching the multitudes spawn in and drop all the glorious power statues. Just watching the loot feed for how many more I'm getting now then before
one of us...
I will reach the gods with the power of the choco chip, and I shall.... I dunno, finally start to feel like I'm getting somewhere
amen
beans are the way
not only do you farm statues
you farm hotdogs for peanuts for golden peanuts
and you farm mana pots for mining food for stamp
Oh. Yeah I should probably be doing that too huh
and you farm golden nomwiches for the golden food stamp
I might have loot filtered the hot dogs and the mana pots๐
What order are the kruk weapons unlocked in?
right to left
So mage, ranged, melee then beginner? ๐
Sweet, starting to hit the point where Iโm making strides again and trying to get the weapons for my characters ahead of W6 ๐
I just didn't want to come back and have missed like some of the larger time candies or something from giants cause my inventory was full of hot dogs and mana pots, I'm sorry
the peanuts
I know the peanuts, but the peanuts are only useful to me if I take my dk off the beans
I have not done a fully optimized sample in a while..... honestly I mostly just have been kinda throwing everyone into kruk key farming and only collecting to get the sailing gains, haven't been doing CC, or farming bubble mats, not a damn thing I really probably should be doing
I'll just stick with beans. But I will make the cap bags, so when I finally do feel like going around and doing all my crafting and samples and bubble upgrades again, I will have the materials available
Why couldnt this have double loot ๐
its emotionally better than a max rolled cloud discovery rate to smear in โi wasted a good rollโ
what is the consensus on trash island unlock priorities? i've gotten increased trash and bribes unlocked already
Trash > seasalt/shimmer > crystal/rando > fractal.
โ/โ means you can swap orders those those depending on your priority
Oh you mean the trash upgrades, sorry
either go stamps, or if not in a hurry just keep doing more trash drop
Fractel dont work on mobile at the moment
Topbird, you remember last night we were on about me doing w2-4 DN. I donโt get 9m an hour I get just past 6 with no card doublers, the scarf Iโm trying to do but vman killing nightmare is going to be a little hard
Should I still go for DN now or wait off
as my original suggestion, if you have mininum 5m/hr on gmush its fine
5m/hr on gmush means likely its more or less on other mobs
for scarf farming i would do on a class that can one shot it as you need to do the trophy quest on all characters anyway
Ahh sorry. I didnโt see you said that, I should get to around 7m an hour and with 3500 hours of candy I should do w2 fully at least
vman on nightmare can wait until later
which class usually do this?
I have the scarf but I canโt make it I mean, I need to kill nightmare to unlock the craft?
bubo right?
Sb, DK, ES, bubo whatever
Ye Topbird, I need to kill nightmare on vman to unlock the craft for scarf
Oh you need the single kill in vman
Need around 20b damage to manual kill it on vman, 200b damage to auto kill it
lvl 133 gaming and by base level 1 plant on an active kitsune is 9m green is that good for my level?
20b! Fuck, I can try but my vman is known for being shit
Iโm 170 and get 1Q
I did with 8b damage and spend around 20min
Thatโs without any good artis for bits
Ahh okay. So I can have less damage but takes longer? Iโm assuming itโs hard to do
Yes
if you have 9m/hr on gmush, not sure why your overall account damage is low
I have around 7m an hour, I have around 600b on sb, 500b on es and I donโt know the rest
I havenโt used Vman for combat since I did my last portal push about 4 months ago before I quit
why is ur vman low damage with that high damage on chars
working on vman doesnt really improves his damage
It might be higher, Iโm not sure. Havenโt used it in months so canโt remember how much it was at
Like skillage is just a single candy and you are up to lv100 kind of thing
How many days you did on him shouldnt really affect much
Ye, I got my vman to level 90+ on all skills so we will see. I just need bars for my armour, do I want full boss armour or 2/4 magma like dk
No I mean I havenโt used him in ages so I canโt remember what it was at when I used him last haha
Vman is usually like 1/10 of other classes damage so 20b should be easy
Ahh okay, sounds easy enough. I need to candy some sb for the bars, oh well. Well worth
My vman is still in amarok, talk about neglect
preferably you would push when you can multikill the mobs
but if u want to push in case w6 gets released soon you can
where can i get dense water other then alch
Only alch sadly
ehh ok
or rather wait untill w6 gets released so the portal requirements for w5 get reduced massively
Probably not
once w6 releases and a little bit of time has passed yeah candy will usable on w5
What kind of max hit should I strive for before attempting to kill nightmare cattle? I can manage it but considering it took actual hours I know im way too low xD
200b on vman is the figure to go for iirc
You need to kill it on all 10 chars, and if you can nail it on vman you can do on all
Some chars need relatively low damage, ES can be left on auto
I think I did it with 70b easily on ES
DK also woudnโt need much damage
I did my 20 bosses for guild weekly with ES at 150B in about 15 minutes, so 2ish minutes per run on auto.
whats the ideal Bubo attack bar with aura at OJ bay
Cranium revive aura poison ghost
That s all
Das the order matters?
rlly damn how does that happen
i mean it only makes a huge difrence if you are active
afk it deostn
Drop poison if you have tenteyecle at 3s
Once in W5 I should go back to W4 with all my chars to push and level? I only reached W5 with 1 char so far, that's why
Afk in w5 will get u more exp than w4 by a lot
If only I could last in W5 with any of my chars other thn warriors
Fuck I haven't used food in W4 I became so strong with the W5 addons I completely forgot to use food ๐ GOD DAMN
Haha
DAMN thank you! ๐
No problem
does encouragement of the snail reset if your snail resets and you get back to the same level?
Avarage 38M EXP/H went to avarage 90M EXP/H so.... ๐
Dude same
The only character not benefitting from it is Maestro, but I don't know if I want to hold them back or not
is 100B dmg on vman reasonable to go kill kattle for the scarf recipe?
just saw the comment about 200B damn 
guys I think Im so lucky Ive unlock these gods really quick like all first attempt.
since then should I remove my characters from divinity?
all of them was labbing but now they're on divinity with the laboratory god.
what should I do?
Just get him to 150 for the requirment for vman
Resample
It's basically rng
Too slim to even talk abt it
dang
Just make sure that the shovel is high leveled
But other than that we're all on the same boat
I got lucky myself with a 41k
but should I left them idleing where?
feels like a scam leveling imports sometimes, the upgrades barely do anything eventually
that is a beeg nugget
whats the lowest you can get the gaming growth cycles to go?
like 1 minute or something crazy
After you get new samples let them in the lab
6-7 in lab with goat to connect the important things and they will lvl up divinity and lab too for extra chip slots and u want lvl 40 for passive exp gain u can put nobisect on dk or bubo to push a little
Also u want a sb to dust motes
Bubo to mapple logs
Can leave em skilling or something after
Craft gear , weapons and such for every1
ohhh just now I saw the goat buff. I get xp in divinity from lab. cool
Yes
I asked cause I remember see someone saying to leave altar after goat that's why I asked and now I understand why
Bur i would suggest taking bubo to citriges get ur damage up and farm alchemy there
But*
Focus pn the skilling bubbles
Get ur samples high,make atoms max some vials and so on
these things Im still doing. Im pushing my maestro cause at the begin I did a huge mistake that was lv my skillers too much.
like, just today Ive reach top1 on mining with Maestro (my skiller was 54)
now going to the last one which is catching but hopefully that's the only one I didnt lv up too much
Tbh if u can do cranium cooking daily u should get a pretty nice boost
Don t neglect sailing and gaminf tho they can give some pretty damn nice bonuses if u give them some love
cranium cooking is one mechanic I never paid attention. that's why I should skill with bubo?
Cranium cooking gives alchemy progress from kills
nooo I claim and boost every day. doing fine on these I think
Meaning u will be able to unlock all bubbles, never run our of water whwn upgrading
so bubo should be always killing then?
about alchemy I do always pretty much the same. buy discount and buy sharquancy and the rest I see what would fit well the moment
Shaquracy is meh
bro question. goat gives only divinity exp or points as well?
the chakra thing changes something on these gains?
If you're on w5 then focus on other bubbles
like what?
The one where your secondary stat gives more acc then the ones that give base stats/dmg
wait what. I dont think I have this bubble yet lol
I barely put levels on those and have almost 3x the acc necessary
Then your focus is unlocking them lol, they're not that high on the sequence
One second
I'm dumb af and forgot that this was sharquacy
๐
Mine is only l39 and i have like 2/3x acc until lava lamps
If your is higher and you still aren't hitting 100% just level up the base/total stats ones
Even your crit will go up with that
damn mine is 55 lol
fine I will do that. thank you!
At that crit rate you have more than necessary lol
yeh was thinking the same ๐ just checking i wasnt missing some sort of damage buff
Only if you haven't all shinies
?
Hm.. Bean Slices? Could you mean slow particles?
Does snake god give fighting afk too?
I tried to double link my ES but Im not getting bonus afk rate
It should
See if the links are currently setup
Im not getting anything at level 0, not even minor link buffs
what does this mean
my ES is on nobisect and snake with talent
If you actually are linked to correct gods ig
does it not actually link me to snake god because its level 0?
such bullshit
you need 10 points to link to snake for real, at least in my case it's so.
Go figure. Not applying talent points into a skill doesnโt actually activate the skill.
Was just going to say that ๐คฃ
You too. Enjoy๐
I've gathered 400 pens, and wanted to start cycling through post office orders for more boxes (currently have ~900). Is there a particular box I should focus on to maximize returns?
all boxes
So distribute the pens across all boxes, from both tabs?
just put 5 into each
po order 1 is for boxes, po 6 fro colo tickets
and complete them daily
If all you want is specifically boxes, focus on po1.
Po 2-5 basically doesnt exist
Got it, thanks!
po3 also good for extra boxes if trying to avoid going 101+ streaks and saving resources, only viable for mobile or tablet (or pc touchscreen) users though as it requires lot of horizontal movement
somenoe know how many infinite stars do i need to have all bonus
thx
i'm close to unlock w5, should i focus into divinity or sailing at start?
you can do both since sailing is more passive
all the W5 recipes are considered a single "item" for the reference. Once you've gotten one, all show up on card drop list
#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message
this should help maybe
!recipedrop
Recipe drops are a bit different from the other drops when you view them on your card. If the recipe is black, it means you have never picked up a recipe from that anvil tab. If your recipe is lit up it means you have found one from that anvil tab, lucky you! However, if you learn a recipe, that specific recipe will no longer be displayed at all on that monsters card.
oh that makes me feel way better
I guess start working on your next greenstack then ๐๏ธ ๐
copper bar, iron bar, gold bar / thread, nail, brick. 6 of this are slow produce so you need to prepare a lot
other things you can easily print so don't need to bother, just print them for few hour and switch is ok
Wait guys red.scarf vs persephone for sampling? Which one is better?
perse
Kk
wait, red scarf?
you mean divine scarf? scarf craft from boss w5?
if it is, divine scarf is better
wow...didn't see this coming...need to un-filter lucky lad now
yeah if you have kruk scarf then persephones is useless unless your character doesnt have the lvl to wear it
2 lucky lad per craft...i figure this after throw away 9 lucky lad?????? FFFFFFFFFFFFFF

If you haven't done onyx statues on all 25 yet, you'll end up with 10 more before you're done
only w3 left...that pain as hell
shame
Click alot.
so I saw somebody with 70 the other day. how!?!? what mob did they grind out?
3 secrect mob
I did rift, what are the other 3?
poop in dr.fetus map, nutto in tower defend map and i don't remember
Pops dr defeteus, rift, spore in doot
oh right, spore in doot
Doot shroom, deficus poops, acorn roots
And acron in TD
you can't see it, just use auto attack, AI auto find it
can you afk those?
Yes
yes, but doot you need to active i believe
No, you do afk too
ok great, thanks for the tip! time to hit that sweet 70
Just need hit
is there a cap of how much recources can be in your storage chest?
1050m unless you have multiple stacks
1050
but green stack only count 1 type of material so get multi stack does nothing
except for copper to get the next breakpoint
yep, it delete or transfer into atom(if you unlocked it)
i dont
once you hit 1050 it auto-converts to atoms regardless of if you have it unlocked
so you just waste thing you print, try to print something else
ok
wow, this new for me
yeah you'll be able to see backlog of atoms once you unlock it
what's the "spore in doot" that you guys mentioned?
I don't see it in the arena
Hi, I just started the game, any tips? (after a long time)
I almost have enough for the new bribes is Garbage Piles worth it from the random event or should I use my trash to get the drop rate stamp
I get like 1-4 garbage per random event, pretty worth it
pays for itself
I feel like if the trader scales with the resources you have. should I always trade with him
What's the trader?
am i missing something why do my prints have the star thing on the instead of the purple bubble or circle whatever it is i still have harriep and lab connected at same time on all warriors/mage
is it 26 vials for snakeskin vial to be 100%?
Doesnโt the star indicate that youโve tripled it?
27
good day so far
What buff does the snakeskin vial give again?
w5 sailing trade
Yeah from harriep but x2 from lab makes 6x which would be the purple thing
hm. my luck with neackle is bad. i g et so many cape but no neackle
Already did that
2/10 characters for the cape but need to farm more keys
Wow niceeee, almost there, so sick having all these extra buffs
Ik man but i have both connected at same time
If you have everything connected right its just a visual bug that happens sometimes. Check IE or toolbox to be sure
You still get the right amount of prints
Show ie snip, it should be blue text with a gold star
It doesnt do purple on there for whateber reason
So im good?
Ye
question
as the sailing trader's price scale with resources you own, should I always trade with him.
well thanks for the help
It scales linearly with how much of the resource you have so trade away if you want gold bars
What's neackle?
kattlekruck neackle
People had said you can use candy to level fractal but how do you candy nothing? When I try ti use candy on fractal island it just does fishing
Its a mobile issue
just mobile? (i dont play except for silver pen on cellphone)
Can't candie fractal on mobile
Oh. Maybe I can circumvent with chrome on mobile?
Or afk on the island itself
i got the kattle cape... no neackle again ugh... come on game
Yeah I think it may work with browser
Whats the soft cap on Startue Exp bubble?
What's the fractal island?
I'm one king vial away from 100% double statue chance. And almost done all 25 onyx statues. I've got vman sampling sand for startue bubble. Just wondering where it's not really worth the effort and I can just dump statues
def worth waiting for onyx and snake vial
bubble up to you, there is a post in #1084911530417606656 with bubble caps and can fool around with the levels yourself on the wiki
Yeah I already did. I'm at 17.7% now, and it will take another 230 levels for it to be level 400 and 21%. Just didn't know if anyone else had any input about an easy break point they experienced. At 40 atom bubbles a day I could spend a week powering it all the way up to 450 and. But it seems wasteful if I'm not on hour clicks of sand
Probably just use bubbles on it till I get last onyx and crown vial and call it a day
eh im only at this and not pushing it
is there a better version of this? It seems incorrect
if i max out this skill on my other es, does it mean i dont need to level it on my main es?
same goes for this?
The ES with the highest level of those two skills gets put into effect. It's pointless to put points into those two skill on another ES if its lower.
so its fine if i use my talent books on my sub es, put the points on him then just focus on damage talents on my main es which i use for pushing rn
Yes
Guys if you're interested in an Idleon Kahoot go to #midgame-chat-w3๐งw4๐ฎ lol
any tips for mob sampling for vman?
Use your void skill and then sample. Max your multikill to your liking, I might have an image saved but I'll have to dig.
Make sure you level up the boss mob respawn rate skill that makes it so each boss kill ups your mob respawn. It's once for boss so if only sampling and not pushing portals than you want to just kill normal boss not nightmare. So you'll want to kill as many bosses as your comfortable with first to get that up then go back and sample after using mulitkill skill
Anyone know if shimmer island base stat upgrades are impacted by other upgrades (like base stat bubbles) or if they are flat like star talents?
its base stat
that means it gets all the multipliers
im pretty sure the shop specifies "base stat". dosent it?
base stat bubbles doesnโt get affected by boosts except for that one specific bubble that says so tho
@gentle furnace soon
yeah. and base stats from tools get impacted so heavily by everything else compared. Either way, I bought 1 each of base stat on shimmer island, and got +3 to each stat on that character. So it's impacted by other % stat unlike talents. I guess worth nothing in case not mentioned before
Star talent stats doesnt get boosted and its a flat +1. Base stat bubble is like +2 from being boosted by a certain bubble, but not affected by stat %. Equipment stat is affected by stat % and also gear stat % bonuses which is a substantial boost
Can anybody carry my buddy and I for World 1 dungeon happy hour? :x
@barren otter
I was about to start burning through Chems, but got a t6 naturally. All done
Like just join a random group
find party button, and just go to it. A normal group will clear it anyway
A "normal" group fails 3rd frog half the time lol. But honestly, you can't expect someone to carry you always. Take what you can get, level up, then contribute and carry yourself ๐ช
Leechers cant be choosers
let's go 
Now do I Harvest All to turn rock off? 
Normal group? Everytime I join a "normal" group they're all rank 20. I have to carry them. Then they tell me, WHY DIDN'T YOUR TRY HARDER?
I'm rank 50 come join me
How happy are you?
I used to dread that harvest all chem plant feeling. after spending an hour straight staring at the screen one day, I now relish it
13 nuggets
With a high of..... 15,179?
3.8k lol
that's what I did really no point in keeping kitsune on until you try for t7s
My only good bit of luck that I still remember.
small stuff
My nugget is still 2k.
I got rando second and regret it completely. I don't have crystal yet, but would put it above rando because of that
Rando seems bugged, never giving another event after the first time. Fractal is confirmed bugged on mobile lol
Crystal at least gives some candies in the meantime ๐ญ
crystal is good exp for your hard to level chars too
how many mobs is it per day?
i dont remember exactly but i think 2
i'll check what the dif between exp is from normal crystals
16B wurms crystal, 519B island
?wiki shovel
oh yeah. that's worth for BB and BM. Especially trying to get them to 425 for scarf. Does fractal work on Steam do you know? Fractal and crystal are my only two left and deciding between the two now that I know the value of crystal
rad. thanks. Think I'll go crystal. Looking at the bonuses for fractal none of them look like they'll have very big impact from what I can tell. Maybe kitchen cost reduction
fck me, spent so much time setting up vman for speedrun
then i forgot to delete samples
wheres he going lol
Ive sunk like 50 rerolls in, does choppin obols have a +2 choppin power possiblity
?wiki Obols#rerolling
Anyone who is more experienced with sailing have an idea for me.
I know every captain has a Letter A-B-C-D-Etc.... but when i look at them on the map and i want to replace on low stat one with a higher stat one. I get semi confused on wich one is what XD
But is there any chance i could give a colour to the boat so that i always know where and what this particulair boat is/was doing?
Click trash to bring your captain home.
Ah, i clicked that when i finally after going back and forth the panels twice to figure out wich one is the correct one ๐
this made it a tad easier, the other thing is, when i do trash one it comes home.
So when he's home i can yank him out of the boat and sell him. Cheers actually, made alot of sense

enterd world 5 a few days ago and my characters are a bit under lvled avarging 120 what lvl should i get to, got 3 to 230 allredy
is there a way to afk the secret doot mob for superchow? or do you just have to sit there with auto on
oh god that's a hot minute
(For enhanced chow)
and there's no way to check kill count on that to try and gauge timing right?
Nope, gotta do it manually. IT has a kph display you could try, but it's always off for me.
crystal fractal then rando
RASH IN #lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ ?!?!?!? now that's a sight!
I have triple your posts here, you're the oddity
Can you build a score on DK orb then port to the skeles to farm cards?
what avarge lvl should i be on w5
I'm not an oddity ๐ I'm a rarity!
Quiet Illumi
Combined we got alot
thats a bit much
10k messages before I catch up!

If you have multiple DKs, do their Bitty Litty skills stack?
Rip
None of the account wide talents stack
Im trying to boost my bit gains and I was already debating swapping my 2nd BB to DK. But sounds like thats one less reason to at least
!gemshop
!catching
#bot-commands
Guys, i did 66 in super Chov, which monsters i need yet?
What are some generically good boxes to invest into after the typically recommended first few boxes?
I'm especially wondering for my vman since he doesnt have specific main skills.
So far I have 400 points in fight, mana, food, drop, and dmg. Would smith be a good next one?
(I know this is a w2 mechanic, but if you have 2000 points put in, I feel like its end game enough to ask here)
Either the 4 main skilling boxes so it can level up easier, or something like utility to make your vman prints better
The true answer is to take DK to bloodbones and farm some pens from crystal mobs ๐
then you have as many boxes as you want (and free carpal tunnel)
Wait how would that give you as many boxes as you like? Dont pens only reroll your options?
my favourite question!
gimme 2 mins
I present to you, the secret of pens
pens reset an order
the order doesn't have to be un-completed to be reset ๐
Cannot watch the video atm cuz its not loading with my connection. But you can basically complete an order for boxes, then use a pen to reset it and complete it again?
Wat
Suddenly my 300 pens have a use
this mean that i need to put 50/100 points in exp 25 in capacity and rest in speed right
yeah, though I'm not sure how valid it is anymore
most of my guys are just setup with pure speed and some capacity
no exp?
I don't, but I'm at the point where smithing exp isn't needed
you can craft some easy to make stuff (soul gum, w5 vullets) to get to 100 very quickly
It doesn't matter as much as it used to. Because you can buy a whetstone now to reset whenever. So if you want to blast XP and then go buy a whetstone and reset that's an option now
oh i see so like 100 is for all the stuff
When vial faming with ES should the multikill cards be doubled?
honestly I dunno
ES spews so much materials it's hard to track
I did but dunno if that's the right choice
yeah honestly I just used a one hour candy after gauging materials betwen high drop rate (on 1/5 materials), and then on multikill cards. I didn't notice much difference so I didn't think too hard on it.
yay maccies done
For Kruk trophy quest does each character need to have the wings drop themselves? Or is owning the wings enough? I don't remember the wording
Yep, each needs it themselves
Man... getting to world 5 really was the jump I feel like progressing much faster working on my journeyman to get maestro. Just have to get 3 more levels on catching
So I guess tomorrow or the day after and I'll have it made sure he has the defense for the fight so that's out of the way at least
yeah it's feelgood.inc to get to world 5. Lot of big jumps like artifacts and divinity that really change the game when you hit them
I'm not sure how divinity is helping the rest of the game but 7 out 9 stay on the alter at all times sadly not my ES because hes my heaviest hitter and thus my "go gather mob drops" character
Divinity has many uses but its true use is for 6x prints for making everythign else in the game go brr
divinity is just second lab
Fair I'm leaving most of them on the altar I just don't know what it's for yet as far as the rest of the game but I was told divinity 40 is the goal so... gonna be a while
goal is goat
after that its sa long as you want
hell,
go for god rank 20
(don't do that)
(do)
Heh fair, but at least the lab had talents to build up to. Divinity sort of feels like I'm flying blind . But dealing with divines that makes sense
What is "scaled efficiency?:
Sounds like it would be "it gets higher as you level" but I haven't linked to that guy
Does increased brewing speed apply towards sigils? Or only the sigil speed upgrade sigil & gem shop?
Can someone link the setup for world 5 TD?
Afaik it doesnโt apply to sigils
๐คณ
how to done it rift level
it just random o maybe some way?
newermind
1 have 1 to go
Scaled efficiency means it changes as you level. Nobisect scales down, so the higher the level you have, the less efficiency it'll give you.
i see ty
Nobisect is primarily for catching up on your lower skilled characters?
Np
Yep
Well, no, the efficiency is mainly for lower skilled characters. Nobisect is mainly for deathnote I think.
I... should have linked my journeyman to them then... XD
? The scaled efficiency is applied to all
Is it...
Well I'll be..
Guess he is already linked to it then heh I'm amused that I missed that ๐คฃ
what level should my kitsune so that its better to always keep it on? (gaming)
I don't think it's ever to keep it on always. Mathematically I believe that regardless of how fast your respawn is the likelihood of it being the reason you get to T4 plants often enough to be valuable doesn't exist
Depends on how often you check in on gaming and how fast your respawn is. If you check it every few hours, I believe it's better to use Kitsune.
I check it every few minutes
For mid-late game, which materials should I focus my 3D printing on? Aside from the obvious like resources from skills and the ones needed for refinery.
Then, despite being unsustainable ๐ , I would always have Kitsune on no matter how fast your respawn is if you are checking every few minutes.
Might just dump like ALL of my Cogs after I get all the flags, my cogs are a mess rn
nah that queastion still actual, how it works, i some how made it on SB and now cant do second time
wtf every time i ask this question here like 1-2 min and i done it in game)
what, is it like a bad thing to do that
will it just, mess up cogs for a month or smth
because i know theres like an optimal layout for characters n stuff
slowly swap cogs, if u dump everything your basically just stopping progression
yeah, thats what i was thinking
anyone know the amount of defence needed for 40 shimmer?
320k
is 40 max shimmer per day?
damn long way there lmao
ye max for trial is 40 shimmer per week
Guys which monsters i need kill for Chow yet? Now i have 66 monsters in Chow
how can we tell
were not you
anyway
!ie
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Best AFK obols, what do you mean?
probs missing poop from dr defacus room and nut from TD map
!IT has that, on apocalypses tab
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IE's is kinda weird, doesn't show images of some and includes mobs like Bob's mimic that don't count for CHOW
any point pumping this past 900?
or even to 900?
feels like it doesnt do much
check wiki and see how the scaling is
if you feel it takes too long for the buffs then dont
STILL end on an even number you goober
go for 460
500 is a better number though
900 is 45%
supposedly main bubble for chopping so i guess? just get to where you are happy
or 90% max
scaling is incredibly slow later so it depends how much closer to 1% you want to be
What is the cap for the x2 level bubble?
120%
(scaling gets awfully slow at that point)
110% is 1100
im not sure how much worse is 120
115 is like 5400
lmao
pretty sure 115% is 2300
its not terrible scaling
do you actually produce the nails for it? XD
damn
anything else I should push for chopping?
thats how slow the scaling gets????????
Alchemy 
Mage is best kinda low, would push to like 900, otherwise bubble 1
kinda been neglecting this one
slackin

not even at 1b material cap, pushhh
it feels like all I do is farm beans and wait for 3D printer these days
hi guys, 21% is max build spd?
Late-game+ really is just a lot of beans
got the 1 in 2 mil recipe before the 1 in 75k key, only like 20 mins of farming

i'm just trying to attempt kattlekruk 
more beans than me, though most of my bean farming days was before filter so had to run lowest possible damage with all +hp prayers
how much monsters i can have max in Super chow? 68?
dang
i think 70
think realistically 70 maybe 71
67 monsters + boop + rift + doot shroom?
think 71 is max including boop and doot shrome
im at 70 rn and missing doot and shroom
statue
lol doot room? tjhere is 1 giant...
70/69?
Oh yeah
70, no one is getting boop lol
I need to start boops again, prob havent killed them once in the past 6 months
Same lol, I just completely ignore them
Curious, how many kills/day do end gamers get at boops?
same as everyone
gimme like 2 mins and i check my multi kill there
iirc i was getting 30k per day
right, MK
but not engame lmao
forgot about that
+kill per kill
513k on my bb for boops
true
and barb talent that has a chance for 1 kill to count as 2
Hmm. Think there might be a bug with sailing/dreamcatcher artifact. Had 29 chests prior to eldritch and still have 29 after the fact.
I had 19 before eld dreamcatcher and still have 19
yup its a bug with eldritch dreamcatcher
Damn.
Maybe we'll get some new pack that will fix some of the older bugs with a small price of 19.90โฌ
this it at boops, still missing a lot of the account wide multikill as well
Thanks man. Real nice %
was like +23k kills for 1 day
I might be here for a little bit
sounds like i am slackin if people can reach 30k 
i have bad memory lol so i could be totally wrong on my number
Question for the new statues I have to complete only the 1st quest on all characters so they get the bonuses right ?
the bonuses should be there once done on any character even without doing the quest
if completed and onyxed
is this enough to beat normal kattlekruk in a reasonable amount of time?
probably, only costs one key to try so why not
He has 100b hp, youll be fine
ty
i had like 110 on my es and did it just fine
is 200 pet arena run supposed to make you nervous
pray to god you don't crash and have to restart
๐
It took me around 9 hours to get to round 200, I attempted it too early and barely had pet damage%
9 is definitely ont he rougher end
the setup user is using is assuming you don't have alchemical
which is slower iirc
but I don't think 9 hours
I think I'm 30 minutes in and just hit 148 so hopefully not 9 hours
potato pc+low pet damage%
I cloudsaved after I did the run and it was 4 hours desync
it would've taken 5 hours if there was NO lag
oof haha