lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[dapper prism]

You can also see their scaling on both wiki and toolbox

[sudden halo]

Do people think it's worth candying my maestro for 12m gmush kills so I can rush to vman?

[dapper prism]

Yes people do that, usually with the free 72h candy

[sudden halo]

Oh I had no idea you get a free 72h candy

[dapper prism]

Don't do it if you're mman is super trash and has low kph

[sudden halo]

it has about 60k kph

[dapper prism]

Did you not do the first void quest then?

The 1m DN w1-3 gives you the 72h candy

[sudden halo]

I’ve prepped all of them but handed in

Not handed in*

[dapper prism]

Meaning if you get to 167k kph/h it's just that 72h candy to get through those 12mil instantly

[sudden halo]

Oof may be a bit too hard for me to get that kph right now, but I’m already 6m/12m

[dapper prism]

Why didnt you hand in the quests?

[sudden halo]

I figured I didn't need to yet haha

[dapper prism]

Imagine if the gmush kills didnt count

[wispy sapphire]

this might be a really dumb question: on the AFK menu when does it show accuracy and when does it show multikill tier?

[sudden halo]

Oh dear god, please tell me they do.................

[dapper prism]

Enemy hp = your dmg is 2x higher than that = MK

[wispy sapphire]

oh so on the first tier of MK thanks

like when you have enough damage for it to matter

[sudden halo]

Oh my god thank fing god. I realised I didn't even have the first quest active on my maestro, and then the deathnote quest didn't complete

When I accepted it

Had to relog and go again to fix it

[dapper prism]

usually just a map change should be enough to update the UI

[sudden halo]

Nearly gave me a heart attack haha

The chaotic chizoar one can be done on any character right? Thanks for all your help[ btw

[dapper prism]

I doubt it, since the quest would be on the vman

[sudden halo]

Ah yea true

That'll be a slog

[dapper prism]

Remember to drop the card packs and pick em up, not sure if slab updates those automatically yet

[sudden halo]

Didn't thnink about that. Thanks!

[lapis mesa]

is it just RNG that i seem to be getting doubles of every statue.. EXCEPT power while farming.. i mena, the odds dont look any worse

[opaque sun]

check the wiki, it shows which drops in qty of 2

[dapper prism]

If its w1 crystal, it should all be base 1 afaik

but also consider mob drops etc

[opaque sun]

amarok drops in 2, camarok drops in 4 technically

[lapis mesa]

yeah it says everything is 1, oh well.. RNG or something i dont understand again

thought it does say it rolls one of the tables twice, so that would explain that part

[opaque sun]

Speed feasty and beholder rare bag rolls two times i think

[lapis mesa]

good timing, we shared a thought, so poetic 😄

[opaque sun]

And with current dr being like 17-20x ish, its a very consistent drop of them 1/20 ish statues

[lapis mesa]

i probably shouldnt even be bothering with statue farming at this point.. but the onyx are so shiny

[sharp ruin]

Is there a faster way of using silver pens to get PO Box points than just spamming refresh?

[opaque sun]

using mobile/pad allows using two fingers which helps with spamming

[sharp ruin]

That’s what I’m doing XD

[opaque sun]

Else its mouse move, click, mouse move

[sharp ruin]

Damn… 30k taps to go I guess :((

[dapper prism]

Time to continue the grind
https://i.imgur.com/aHcYHYu.png

Going to have to see how far i get, planning on doing ES2 then SB2, saving bb/bm/vman last
https://i.imgur.com/Mi1SivO.png

[lapis mesa]

aha! i got a doubled power statue! it it possible.. ok. have fun

[exotic juniper]

when should i start doing nightmare kattlekruk?

[sacred verge]

no

oh sorry

when all 10 chars can do it

[feral hemlock]

Too early i would say

[exotic juniper]

what is a good dmg range for it? 50b?

[sacred verge]

vman 20b atleast

[exotic juniper]

ive killed a few on bubo but takes like 10 minutes not worth it haha

[sacred verge]

no point really

[dapper prism]

OIFMGOFMGFMG

[exotic juniper]

my first 6 chars are almost done even pushing to it

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/JGqChHW.png

[exotic juniper]

gratz

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/35tROS0.png

first kill 😄

[sacred verge]

if youre just pushing to it now its a long way to go

[exotic juniper]

idk i just never tried before accept on 1 char. got doot a few days ago so can push on everyone

[dapper prism]

Whats your DR btw, you cropped the most important thing for nm kattle xD

[exotic juniper]

oh, 11

[sacred verge]

you are far from it being worth it

its just a waste of time

[exotic juniper]

i figured, thanks

[dapper prism]

Slow keys, slow kills, lowish DR, all ends up being a bit meh

Do the 1x nm kill on everyone for merit unlocks when you're at it and probably an easy 20-50b dmg on vman.

and make sure every alt is on the quest for cape drop to never worry about it

[exotic juniper]

yea doing the quest now on everoyne haha

[sacred verge]

yeah i got the cape before quest.. lol

[dapper prism]

@barren otter See my pics above 🥳

[barren otter]

glad im finally done with kattle

[dapper prism]

ill see how far i get 😄

[sharp ruin]

Please upvote my silver pen QoL suggestion ❤️
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1151033615749234791

[dapper prism]

No cause its in the wrong spot

[sharp ruin]

Omg where do I post D:

[dapper prism]

You're in #1034916101160714371 instead of #player-suggestions

[granite grove]

also dont ask for upvotes if you are gonna drop it in #player-sug-discuss, or ppl will downvote instead

[sharp ruin]

I have no access to the last link 😮

But I turned on all channels

[dapper prism]

probably missed one

[granite grove]

turn on and off channel roles to make sure

[sharp ruin]

Just did, still not working. Weird

[fallen torrent]

imagine getting 2 kattle cape but no neackle

oh finally got it as i say this!!

[dapper prism]

Rule 1, always complain and you will get it

[fallen torrent]

true!

[winged lake]

no access?

[zinc torrent]

actually happened to me :3

[granite grove]

#👀read-me

[fallen torrent]

oih dang i didnt see it ask for lucky lad

i destroyed 3 of it like 4 days aog

😢

time to get one off a guy

[winged lake]

I get like 10 a day

[dapper prism]

just active dk and get 25 by tomorrow

[vapid ice]

How do people get like 800+ on DK orb? I have orb talent lvl 235 and one shot the wurms and crystals but never seem to get over 400 🧐

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/il5cByO.png

Crystallllllsssss x3

[fallen torrent]

so... i equiped the divine scarf... quest not getting completed

[dapper prism]

as always, switch map for ui to update

[fallen torrent]

i did... i even went to char select

[vapid ice]

The crystals make all the difference?

[dapper prism]

Does surely help when you get 1/29 crystal spawn chance with 75% respawn chance on kill (choco chip)

[vapid ice]

My spawn chance is like 1/60 I believe

[winged lake]

1/29

[dapper prism]

But also, eclipse 225 for +20s desciple

[fallen torrent]

Ermn... bug?

[dapper prism]

Either equip it then change map, or unequip it and equip it when you're in the map, even though i just did it like 5mins ago i forgot which way it was

[fallen torrent]

oh i have to be in the W5 map for it to upload. being in W4 or other world doesnt work

[vapid ice]

Alright thanks, guess. I need to work on crystals a bit more

[dapper prism]

also orb talent 235 is still a bunch away from its max

[fallen torrent]

425 to 450 having levelup giving +485% exp how fast would it be on SB active? or afk?

[winged lake]

havent got my genie card to 5*

so im sitting at 1/31 for crystals

crescent shrine 18

[dapper prism]

level up giving 485%? confused what you mean tbh. but lmk what your afk info xp rate is and i can check the time

[fallen torrent]

alch bubble

lv 1583

1612* now xD

[dapper prism]

either way, just lmk what your actual xp rate is

[winged lake]

get grind time up with booba alch active first

[dapper prism]

Xp/h

[fallen torrent]

173.474M

176*

[winged lake]

makes a huge difference

[fallen torrent]

oh forgot my wings actually 😮

[dapper prism]

that dot makes no sense unless you mean 176m xp or 176b ?

[opaque sun]

orb talent level is a biiiig factor on the highest peak kills you can get

[fallen torrent]

i mean i showed you what showed the exp screen. but yeah 176B i guess

topbird i get two orb spawning same time at one point. wich overrule the last orb count to reset 😦

[opaque sun]

Like even a 3-4 second increase means like one more respawns to kill, which means like 20-50 more kills just from that

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/R2g1DtI.png

[winged lake]

yeah that two orb spawning sillygoose

[dapper prism]

Afk is always a joke

Active-Online is often 20x to even like 200x+ faster depending on class.

[winged lake]

crystals give a ton

[dapper prism]

Also if your Bubo is setup right, you should just spend some days doing CC for GT, could easily get around 1k levels a day early on

[fallen torrent]

i didnt pay attention if SB active was giving a lot more or not

[dapper prism]

anything with insta respawn is a lot more. Also because of crystals and no down-time

[fallen torrent]

oh i know ive been farming GT a bit, but ive been farming others bubble for a lil bit first im going back to it soon (also leveld water)

im at lv 1612 GT so its not badf

[dapper prism]

Time to start nm kattle on the next alt, how many kills till cape, we shall see 😄

[opaque sun]

sadly SB is the morst underwhelming amongst the respawn guys, but still better than those without a respawn and BM

[winged lake]

if I have all bubbles always equipped is there a boost for actively equipping any of them as well?

[fallen torrent]

2mkill/hr on tremor worm with SB haha

love the high number

[opaque sun]

once you have sheepie companion, big bubbles only act as visual markers for some reminder you want to make on characters

[winged lake]

visual reminders

[dapper prism]

Oh and IE may still not update some stuff for public profile (maybe private too?) if the bubble isnt actually equipped afaik

[opaque sun]

Like mark them using same big bubbles to denote which same sigils they are in? Be creative

[winged lake]

all my lab slaves getting the lab orb

[dapper prism]

@opaque sun who is hardest (most annoying) in order for nm kattle grind bb/bm/vman in terms of afk?

[opaque sun]

afk as in i suppose you mean idle auto

Bm can auto

[dapper prism]

yeh auto on*

[fallen torrent]

that kattle trophy is pure ecstasy

[opaque sun]

Bb can auto if its fire up gets on fire and out dps the regen

Vman really needs manual intensive until to outdamage it

[dapper prism]

wonder at what point vman can auto dmg

yay another neck 🙂
https://i.imgur.com/CBC4DVt.png

[opaque sun]

200b for “auto and forget” on vman

[dapper prism]

Awh doubt i would hit that with dr cards

[winged lake]

how to get 200b damage on vman

[opaque sun]

it gets there

[dapper prism]

W5 alch bubbles, arti crystal steak, good skill levels.

[fallen torrent]

doing CC for GT

should i remove the lab water?

like the lab perk

[dapper prism]

only if you're very very active and can spend it while getting it

[opaque sun]

why would you remove it ever

[fallen torrent]

well if im actively click to upgrade it. it slows it own but augment capacity

[winged lake]

good skill levels?

[opaque sun]

No lab cc is like clicking every minute or so

[fallen torrent]

yeah sometime im out there bored and clicking things out on my game

hm hm thank you

but for tonight nayway going to bed ;p

Topbird Has spoken!

[opaque sun]

clicking cc isnt really interesting to do when bored, so i wouldnt recommend taking off lab node

[fallen torrent]

hm

[weary sonnet]

Boys! Who is better to clean up the frosty dungeon?

[sudden halo]

Is this a bug? I suddenly am able to teleport to Lampars on my vman when I barely just got to Cracker Jacks?

[opaque sun]

when in doubt, you cant go wrong with a DK on any dungeon

[winged lake]

dk did me good

[opaque sun]

Its a intended feature that lava explained once somewhere in discord

[weary sonnet]

Dk Good everywhere, but it feels like he's not strong in a frosty dungeon.

[dapper prism]

i like ES as long as you can sustain mana

[opaque sun]

Since vman uses same portal count for void count, it needs to reset all kills per speed run. To compensate this vman now copies off same progress as someone else in family with most progress

[sudden halo]

Oh that's interesting. So it's the standard programming "It's a feature, not a bug" thing haha

[opaque sun]

There are some better than others in specific situation, but DK is like the most consistent through all stages of your dungeon stat progress

If DK feels suck, likely other classes will feel underwhelming as well

bubo and ES can sometime work against you in w3 dungeon as a stray homing bolt / poison can kill boss when you dont want to

[cursive forge]

oh wait wtf

Im so dumb

there's always been another island between the wood

[dapper prism]

Lol, 39 kills in 🥳 (feeling lucky tonight) (cape with 2 necks)
https://i.imgur.com/Kr0Wtsl.png

[cursive forge]

what am I doing with my life

[winged lake]

its about family meme insert

[winged lake]

same

[cursive forge]

cause I just got this boat and Im thinking what am I missing lol

Im missing an entire island

dayum

[opaque sun]

Lava explained it somewhere in the patch notes on how the vman feature works. Issue is he needs to write that down in game

[cursive forge]

quick question

if I assign 3 boats to cloud

[sudden halo]

I mean it seems more like a complicated coding problem rather than something that was done to benefit players

[cursive forge]

will my boat act as exploring if it was discovered mid-journey

[zealous niche]

Don’t think so, I think all discovering boats return to port

Been a while though, so may be wrong

[sudden halo]

Another random question, Voidman speedrun talents is only limited to the preset that you did the speedrun on? I did my first one on preset 1 and when I switch to preset 2 there's no extra void talent points there

[winged lake]

iirc they just return

[opaque sun]

lava didnt want to make set of new rows of database just for vman portal kills

[cursive forge]

alright

gonna check 30mins later then

dont want my slaves sleeping

[zealous niche]

Whack a single talent point in speedrun and you’ll get it all back

[dapper prism]

u have to put 1 point into the portal talent

[sudden halo]

Ah that did the job. Thanks!

[cursive forge]

the w5 merit board exp upgrade
its addition right

[opaque sun]

because void are technically just normal portals, you can kind of cheese a boss kill by:

1. Start a nightmare boss fight at w4 out of the void.
2. Start speed run and kill boss just before you transition to gmush
3. Nightmare troll counts towards the speed run as speed run started the moment you clicked talent, not after the teleport

[cursive forge]

should I go for respawn rate/ skilling exp in w5 merit

probably exp first

[winged lake]

how much delay is it for teleport?

[sudden halo]

Thanks so much! Btw do normal/chaos etc count as separate portals/unique boss kills?

[winged lake]

nightmare counts for all

[frail mauve]

Big brain moment

[sudden halo]

And holy hell I had no idea how big voidman was for your account. The boosts are huge where I am

[opaque sun]

You can only kill one difficulty of boss

if you say you kill normal amarok first, it only gives 1 portal and no further portals for killing chaos/nightmare

So you always want to kill nightmare if you are aiming for portals

[sudden halo]

Would you be wanting to do speedruns every day then, or just when you can push further?

[opaque sun]

For the talent’s respawn bonus for killing a boss, you can do on whatever difficulty. People kill normal boss if they are just aiming to sample mobs in the void

[sudden halo]

Is there an aded benefit to sampling in the void? Is that for the extra multikill talent?

[opaque sun]

Just do speed for portals when you have major improvements (eg, longer speed run duration)

Multikill talent and respawn bonus from boss is counted towards the sampling

Vman gets like way way more mob sampling than anyone else

For a sampling run you just rush killing normal bosses (to save keys), and just sample at the mob you want and ignore side branching portals

[sudden halo]

Oh damn ok thanks! I should have sampled the gmush caps during my run then haha

[opaque sun]

you dont really need to sample gmush as you should like have a SB killing it anyway

[sudden halo]

So everytime you do a speedrun, your portal high score resets?

[opaque sun]

But its good for mob mats used for vials

high score is lifetime highest score you ever got

[sudden halo]

I'm pretty early on in w5 (between 15-40m damage on all my chars)

not sure when I should be focusing on certain things

[opaque sun]

so for resample run you can complete ignore what portals you getting. Hence the “just do normal boss”

[sudden halo]

Do you still need to do a boss to progress to the next world in speedrun?

[opaque sun]

like a SB should always be parked at green mush anyway for smelting and general gmush lab bonus

you can start from any world if you want by teleporting

[sudden halo]

Ah ok

[sudden halo]

That's afk right? At what level/damage should you start doing that?

Thanks for all your help btw, really appreciate it

[opaque sun]

When you get your 10th character, you should start doing that

[sudden halo]

Whoops.... I'm way past that lol

[opaque sun]

Many people like to make their 2nd SB as a “multikill specialist” that does general deathnote, and gmush kills when not doing deathnote

[sudden halo]

How do you balance focusing on leveling/making that SB stronger vs doing multikill farming though

I guess first I should probably do the divinity/lab sitting

[opaque sun]

Like gmush lab bonus is one of the very few buffs in game that doesnt have a cap/diminishing return

[sudden halo]

They've been pretty much neglected since I rushed to w5

[opaque sun]

So its always good to kill all the time

The rate of kills gets better as your general account improves

[sudden halo]

I got bear and up to shrine in lab but took them off for a bit for general leveling

[opaque sun]

Its also handy to have one guy specced out for multikill when there is a task regarding kills arrive as you just use him than gearing up someone

[hallow wing]

Where's that one guide on like tower defence placements? Could've sworn it was !guide but it's replaced by a regular guide now

[sudden halo]

Btw, what are the benefits to having the SB doing the gmush farming rather than someone else?

I can't seem to find something relevant in their skills, but I'm probably just blind

[dapper prism]

other people have more of a purpose on other things. also archer/sb good for furnace (smelting bars)

[zinc torrent]

https://i.imgur.com/fzW5R3h.png finish 😄

[dapper prism]

Gz, but cooking looking at you with puppy eyes atm 😉

[pulsar cliff]

And your balloons are hiding in fear.

[sudden halo]

I hate that I started this game so late. Seeing people so far into it and I am not able to reach it for a long long time. Not a competitive aspect but so much I'm missing out on

[zinc torrent]

cooking is something that should not be bothered with. maybe w6 😄

[dapper prism]

Yeh, i know the feeling, yesterday was my 6 month idle-versary. And seeing some peopls bubbles is just insane xD

[sudden halo]

I'm a bit over 1 month in now, and I realise from every world I have so much to catch up on, but not enough time and characters do them all haha

[zinc torrent]

Not being able to obtain a pet that gives +25 talent point.It's so annoying that it's paid.

[dapper prism]

W5 is the perfect time to backtrack while everyone is on divinity, having 1 out and doing active stuff that doesnt necessarily require lab is great

[sudden halo]

My condolences brother. I'm lucky I got my one from the weekly. Doot would be a much bigger one though.....

[sudden halo]

Haha I haven't even started on divinity past bear. My lab everyone is only level 10 max as well.....

[dapper prism]

But you do have them on div?

[sudden halo]

As you can see, I've neglected a lot 😛

Not yet, I was farming some levels while getting my vman so I could print better

but in the next day I'm going to start the divinity/lab grind

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/pipa-cat-pipa-cat-sazabio-pipa-cat-sazabio-gif-21107905

terrible to remove them early

100% no matter what get to goat.

[sudden halo]

They've only been removed less than a week

[zinc torrent]

https://i.imgur.com/sJ1ytwJ.png I'm very unlucky

[dapper prism]

still sounds very inefficient

[sudden halo]

because I thought in the 1-2 months that they'll be jailed in both, I might as well get some litlte more done before then

My skilling prints went nearly 10x in this last week because of that

but still not sure if it was worth it

[dapper prism]

Nope xD

At least shoulda gotten Nobi, 2x the kills to unlock portals faster => more xp/h

[steep zealot]

If it makes you feel any better, I still have a war/arch/wiz still in lab as my last 3 toons and have never seen the light of day since i made em 🙂

[dapper prism]

Never understood that

Losing out on account wide buffs from tab 4

[steep zealot]

I still have the elites

those are just the extra ones

[dapper prism]

yes, but early on you need those talent pts for other talents

[sudden halo]

I had my guys sitting in lab and div to just to get to level 10 and 5 and I was already losing my mind from how boring as hell it was

[dapper prism]

not even just early on, but takes a while until you have enough to max the important stuff in tab 4

[sudden halo]

If I have to do it for well over a month, I'm going to go crazy

[steep zealot]

I had em though? My toons got to their elite then i made the lab babies later

[dapper prism]

missed my point darko

[steep zealot]

I see that lol

Not sure what you're referring to then. Since I had tab 4 open, how would they help by also having tab 4?

[zinc torrent]

Can I trade paid pets?

[dapper prism]

not yet

[steep zealot]

Tbf though, I use them mostly to get the lines since my Div/Lab is all fucked and idk how to maximize it yet lol. I got it to get across the lab, dont wanna keep ruining it and getting annoyed lol

[zinc torrent]

Is World6 in development?. Content has not been shared for a long time

[dapper prism]

my point is if you have 1x DK, there's so many high priority talents to max out on tab 4, that you won't have enough to focus on the "account wide talents, 11-14"
https://i.imgur.com/cRT6bkc.png

So your 2nd DK, would always have those talent maxed:
https://i.imgur.com/wcRpTMj.png

Same with ES/SB kinda stuff

[steep zealot]

It's been less than a month lol. Unless you're referring to W6 content specifically being shared

[dapper prism]

especially early-midway when you only have like 50-500 talent points.

[zinc torrent]

you are right 😄

[dapper prism]

By just having 1x DK in this case, you would sacrifice some efficiency somewhere, either in the talents 11-14 or in combat, or if preset 2, then on skilling stuff.

[steep zealot]

Oh, I see what you mean. Just to cover both sides

[dapper prism]

As having 50-50% points in either is just a waste.

[zinc torrent]

He would post every week. I'm surprised they didn't post

[steep zealot]

Eh, I see what you're saying, and do agree, but at the time I didnt understand if making another set of elites screws me or not so just left em alone

My understanding at the beginning was not to make 2x of like ES/DK and such

Probably should get them their elites now though, just been too lazy to take em out. Focused on finishing the last 2-3 portals on W5 and Alch

[sudden halo]

Ok due to overwhelming pressure, I am moving everyone to divinity and then lab for the next month and a half T_T

[steep zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/adam-sandler-billy-madison-funny-insult-just-do-it-gif-15340470

[dapper prism]

rofl, you can still keep vman out for skilling rank 1's and then use one active to backtrack content

[sudden halo]

Oh yea I was just going to keep my ES to active push

But I guess vman for skilling would be good too hehe

[dapper prism]

I wouldnt push

if you don't even have nobi.. you're already half speed...

https://i.imgur.com/cuvBOqf.png

Some ideas of things to backtrack

[sudden halo]

I'll be hitting nobi pretty soon

That actually helps a lot! thanks

[dapper prism]

Other option is... just get doot

[sudden halo]

Kappa

Btw I saw that it's written there set up a second character for the perma

Couldn't I just switch to a second preset every time I collect those bonuses?

Minus div ofc

[steep zealot]

I don't even have anyone linked to Nobi lmao

Working on Purr rn. But I have x5 bear, x2 snake, and x3 goat xD

[sudden halo]

What is considered a town skill? Is it just smithing or is alchemy/construction included too?

[rapid talon]

which one should be next?

[zinc torrent]

holy damn, just did nightmare kruk on 2 BBs and my Vman. Feels good to be done with it

[next locust]

You're my hero. I'm too scared to even try

[zinc torrent]

i was scared, but I'm alive. just took me 1hour xD

[next locust]

You got 1 hour closer to death o.o

[rapid talon]

what is the dmg of your vman?

[jovial pebble]

Hey how come my drop chance was at 11.55x and now its 11.03x? I have checked everything and i got no changes

[zinc torrent]

was just above 20B and 5.5 crit dmg multi

[steep zealot]

That's a lot of variables to go through..

[jovial pebble]

The only thing i can think of is snapshot that i dont rly know much about, that i may have accidentally got it for drop rate and now its gone or gone into damage, since i had less damage before

[steep zealot]

You went through everything? Equipment, cards, and all that?

[old portal]

is there a bug on printer that it changes the printing color whenever icheck it like it sometimes remove the doubling printer for some but it gets back right after

[steep zealot]

Well, the lab bonus will make it blue, if that is what you're asking

[old portal]

yeah lab bonuses makes it blue but whenever i check the quick ref on printing it sometimes remove the blue and returns like its blinking

[steep zealot]

Are you messing around with your lab/div rn?

[old portal]

nope

[steep zealot]

Hm

[patent hatch]

which island next?

[steep zealot]

I've noticed it do that sometimes but that was when I was working with lab to make it work and it would turn some off and i had to turn em back on

[old portal]

those colored one changes into 1 tier lower for sometime with me just looking at the screen with active DK

[jovial pebble]

Yeah, before i changed over my drop rate setup to my bubonic conjuror, my divine knight had 11.55x drop rate and now that i changed it back to the divine knight with the exact same setup it has 11.03x and cant get more.

[worn frost]

How did you do it on vman, isn’t there loads of mobs aha

[old portal]

people usually forgot obols and prayer maybe that?

[jovial pebble]

ahhh there it is lol, the obals!

[steep zealot]

-.-

[jovial pebble]

lol

[steep zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/panda-office-rampage-mad-angry-gif-12918172

[zinc torrent]

WASD :D check out trickz guide pinned here in the channel

[worn frost]

Ahh okay, how much damage on vman?

[steep zealot]

All of it

[jovial pebble]

thanks for the reminder lol, now its back to normal 🙂

[zinc torrent]

all of the 20B i had

[old portal]

thats alot of things to focus if youre doing bosses with 20b damage

[worn frost]

20b and you did it. Nice

[old portal]

50b and i havent killed one lol

[zinc torrent]

was actually one of the few times I actually needed skilll for a boss haha

but you can do it once you start to understand when to use your skills

[jovial pebble]

first time i killed him on nightmare it took like 4-6 hours 😛

[old portal]

why you guys pushing for killing it on nightmare? is there something iam missing out

[zinc torrent]

for the achievment

[old portal]

cuz iam not going to farm it with maestro whose only at 1b dam,age

[zinc torrent]

which gives you that sweet divine scarf

[old portal]

hmmm i see

[zinc torrent]

and then for the quest to get the trophy

[jovial pebble]

also for the new gear in blacksmith tier 5

the last achievemnt i wont be able to do, since you have to kill him on nightmare on 10 chars in order

[old portal]

whats the reward for doing that

[jovial pebble]

you can craft the divine scarf

[zinc torrent]

that's the one I'm doing atm

[old portal]

aight maybe i should aim for that then ty

[jovial pebble]

good luck 🙂

[dapper bridge]

Prestige points

[dapper bridge]

There is a quest where you need to drop the cape on every char

[opaque sun]

The trophy from the quest is amazing. Cape itself is ‘okay’ at best

[paper nova]

If you don't collect bottles from the fishing dock how many will build up?

[opaque sun]

A lot, but not many are risking for science to check the absolute max

[paper nova]

lol fair. I can vouch for up to like 5 days.. >.< 😂

[fierce geyser]

Prepping for my voidrunner, came across this interesting number

shouldnt it be 1M?

[opaque sun]

Probably like 999,850 kills or something

Like just need few more to get a full 1m

[paper nova]

whats the thing that makes it so shrines are affective everywhere but they dont get xp? its like 4am and i cant think

[primal bison]

Lab

[teal lynx]

Also Sailing Artifact for different Worlds

[paper nova]

Awe the artifact is the specific thing that i meant- thx both tho

[opaque sun]

moai artifact applies the shrine buff on any worlds

It just doesnt extend the exp range

There isnt anything to “prevent shrines getting exp”

[paper nova]

yea i didn't mean prevent just in contrast to the lab node that allows them to get xp throughout the world

[dapper bridge]

Artifact, lab makes the shrine get exp for the entire world if it's in the town

[dapper bridge]

Then i was wrong

[pine pond]

everyday little by little

closer to reaching my goal :3

can finally reprint and get my 1.6b oak 😦

[dapper bridge]

I have half of that bc i'm not that juiced yet

[paper nova]

So my BM is usually in lab and i eagle eye there. 99% of the time the critters don't auto loot and i have to click them. Once in a while they do... but most of today they have been auto looting.. but not everytime.
Some sort of semi-shadow fix?

[pine pond]

i just go to world 3 and collect them there.

[dapper bridge]

Rush rift to unlock the autodrone

[paper nova]

o.O autodrone?
I think I have rift or can access it just havent finished quest.
Kind of rushed passed that NPC on the way to w5

[pine pond]

autodrone :3

[dapper bridge]

Lol

[paper nova]

the arm?

[paper nova]

oh the drone. does rift collect automatically once u unlock it?

oooh..

[dapper bridge]

Rift 6 i think

[paper nova]

normally i 20 min collect.... I'm still try harding atm. One day soon i'll resort to 24 hr collecting lol

[dapper bridge]

I highly suggest doing the rifts to as far as you can for now

[paper nova]

ooh i was 2 batteries short of finishing the quest. might have them now

[dapper bridge]

I rushed skill mastery and eclipse skulls and decided to farm other things

[north pecan]

oh I think I messed up..... I should have gotten fractal for my fourth island

[dapper bridge]

Maybe but i also don't have fractal yet

But in my case is bc my chars that aren't farming are in lab

[opaque sun]

fractal should be last honestly as its an island that is not tied to any time gate mechanic despite you ‘spent time candy’ on it

Unless you are in hurry for those fractal bonuses, crystal unlock first gives more fractal progress at the end due to having more candies

[granite grove]

the only good reason for it if you want early dungeon flurbo multi for opal rings and keychain gacha, but crystal as 4th or 5th is generally better choice

[opaque sun]

crystal is gated daily, and rando is gated weekly. Fractal can always catch up in one day of spending candies you accumulated

[granite grove]

how much can crystal island mob stack to?

[opaque sun]

dunno, maybe like a week worth?

[granite grove]

i guess i gotta do my crystal island soon, recently got my lv295 DK orb running

havent did it like at least 10d or so

[opaque sun]

It was like 10 crystals or so when first unlocking, so probably counts from when accessing omar maybe?

[north pecan]

w8 so how does rando island work anyway

[opaque sun]

the island itself allows one random boss fight you can use anytime once a week

And also a place to upgrade random event related stuff using bottles

[sharp wind]

Why mine always no boss spawn in rando

Its been 2 weeks now

[opaque sun]

It has more value for those who do random event fights daily to make use of the upgrade that costed bottles. Else its just one more fight per week

[sharp wind]

I always check every weekly reset

No boss spawn

[acoustic marten]

so ive been holding up my much needed resampling session for like 6 weeks now.

the prospect alone gives me anxiety. any tips to break the mental prison?

last few times i had to relog a million times because i forgot stuff, accidentally linked to the wrong divinities and stuff.
any easy step by step "hold my hand" guidesheet out there?
or anyone willing to supervise my sample session? 😅

[opaque sun]

i dunno. Maybe you switch devices or something to reset those timed thing?

[sharp wind]

I did play on 2 devices

But there should be no problem no? Never had this kind of problem before

[opaque sun]

The game has a weird anti-cheat system when changing devices to miss a full cycle of rotation

[sharp wind]

[opaque sun]

it makes sure to NOT get seasonal events for like say two days when changing devices

Maybe lava reused same code of one of the past event

[sharp wind]

There is no problem with my account at summer event and spring event b4

I can switch account and both have same content and synced

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/2319c3f662281daabd18057b1b3dd870.png

[opaque sun]

Dont ask me how lava chooses which code to reuse

Its the same guy who made it so if playing on asian languages, you cant progress certain quests as the game doesn’t recognize the 2 byte numbers used in the integers

[sharp wind]

[tacit tulip]

Honestly that's not surprising, I used to test some of the localised versions of maple (Dutch, french, Spanish and german) and the amount of stuff simply changing some text can break is -astounding-

German in particular was terrible for it 😄

[opaque sun]

german notorious for “if this fits, all languages fits this UI”

On the contrary, dont ask a Japanese guy to decide how big the text box should be

[solid hollow]

just so i understand gaming: it basicly mean ONE sprouts grow in 10,27 Hr or is it ALL of my Aviable Space grow? Also: Golden Sprinkler also resets with it? or is it based on my Daily reset?

[visual tangle]

is the ideal obol setup for everybody to have full pop obols... with some extras for skilling?

[opaque sun]

full pop/dice in the family slots. Switch to skilling if you really really really need it, but usually skilling is fine with just personal

Usually everyone just keeps skilling as a way to hold all those skilling obols

Then there are some classes that doesnt really have their specific skill obols so like vman and bubo, and gmush farming sb uses full pop/dice

[sacred verge]

why gmush farmer with pop/dice?

[opaque sun]

well you can use multikill, but it doesnt add much

[sacred verge]

kattlekruck obol

[opaque sun]

So more as a “holder for pop obols”

[sacred verge]

kattle is worth mentioning

[opaque sun]

Well obvisouly kattle replaces almost every sparkles so i didnt even bother mentioning that

Kattle is drop/fight/skill in one

[sacred verge]

kattle is not drop

[opaque sun]

I have one set of each personal skilling obols (6 sets) 2 sets of dr obols, and mk for sb. Mk was just out of “welp might as well farm mk obols since its still bis for gmush”

[opaque sun]

It effectively is for afk duty

[sacred verge]

fair enough

[opaque sun]

dr in a way is just gains that works also in active, but doesnt affect exp related things

[sacred verge]

anyways i didnt mean to pick on you 🙂 was just to mention kattle as its pretty good in case he didnt know

[opaque sun]

when people asking to make pops, i usually just assume they are too early to farm kattle most of the time

[sacred verge]

very true

[opaque sun]

If you are at a stage doing nightmare kattle, but havent had pop/dice obols, thats scary

[sacred verge]

lol i agree

thats insane

come w6 i would not be suprised if it happens tho

ppl are so focused on rushing worlds nothing else seems to matter

[opaque sun]

In the same line, its also worth to colo 3 with dk to get full of slush obols as a part of the skill set

So nowadays skilling obols are so easy as basically you only need circles and squares

[sacred verge]

yeah

btw the obol from the ice guard thing

can it be rerolled for more than 8% DR?

[gray pagoda]

Yeah, you can get up to 9% on it

[opaque sun]

It becomes 9% like others

[sacred verge]

normal dice is 8

[opaque sun]

You can always get +1 like others i meant

[sacred verge]

alright

is it possible to fuck up the stats on it tho?

[opaque sun]

reroll isnt just one time thing so not sure whats the worry

[gray pagoda]

For full dr obols, you'll want silver pops in the circles, guard in all the squares (although that may take a while), and dice in the hexagons and sparkles

Make sure they all have +1% than what they usually are

[opaque sun]

I still only have one ice guard obol despite doing all the knights that i see

[gray pagoda]

Same

[sacred verge]

same

[gray pagoda]

I'm starting to think maybe you can only get one of the event drops, but I'm sure I'm just unlucky lol

[opaque sun]

Skipped most meteor and frog in hopes for an ice guard or other tool drops

[gray pagoda]

Plus dr doesn't affect the events so...

[opaque sun]

Ice guard obol is the only rare drop i had to be honest

[gray pagoda]

Ice guard obol is the only rare drop I care about to be honest lol

[opaque sun]

Like day one i got ice guard obol and i was like “hey, random events are nice lava!”. Look at me now with only that obol

The tools you want to get hold of at least one as its the bis off-hand tool

[gray pagoda]

But don't worry, you get dungeon credits to increase your damage with that one talent

[sacred verge]

only ever got the ice guard obol and meteor ring

[jolly quest]

what divinity level do i need to get 100% of the minor link bonus

[opaque sun]

depends on you big p

With big p giving like 1.4x bonus, you need like 130-150 div level which is very doable

[elfin idol]

What level big P is that? 50 atm is giving me 1.23x

[opaque sun]

Without big p, you need like 500000000 lvls so that 99.9999% rounds to 100

Like 400-500 ish?

Mine is 726 for 1.46x

[gray pagoda]

I'm still working on a few bubbles for the orange, green, and yellow cauldron, but I just got power trithree yesterday. Unfortunately I haven't reached the last island yet, so no treasure.

[gray pagoda]

That sounds like some dog shit scaling

[opaque sun]

Div Lv / (Div Lv + 60) and multiply that number with 1.23x (big p) to see what % you getting

[true obsidian]

is this really use ES better than DK?

[opaque sun]

Div 130 is 130 / 180 = 67%
So need 1.47x from big p to get it to 100%

[opaque sun]

Those statues dont drop from crystals

Its from the mob, so that is where ES shines

[true obsidian]

ES farm took so long :<

[opaque sun]

Would take longer if dk

[true obsidian]

i still don't know how it work? DK orb increase drop rate too, but why normal drop ES is better than DK?

[opaque sun]

The guide doesnt say its easy with ES. Its saying out of all other worst options, ES is best

ES wormhole basically have a better drop rate mechanic than orb. But issue is it only applies to wormhole mobs, not crystals

Orb on the other hand has a weaker dr bonus, but applies to everything on screen

So it most importantly affects drops from crystals

[true obsidian]

oh, thank for explain

[untold lintel]

ive been stuck on the snow island for like a week in sailing trying to get its artifacts, previous artifacts I had no issues getting within like a day, idk if Im doing something wrong or missing some upgrades somewhere, but i check in like once a day, I use SB talent for chests but when I open they only have like a 3-5% chance at the arti, is that normal? does the %'s just scale down the farther u get

[burnt gale]

3-5% is actually pretty chill

[opaque sun]

it becomes like 0.01% later on

So its normal

[untold lintel]

just for normal artifacts? not ancient

thats so low mane

[opaque sun]

Later islands are like that

[true obsidian]

anyone have the picture show which island to unlock first and last?

[untold lintel]

Thats just so freakin low, i open like 11 chests a day, with those odds ill have like a 1% chance everyday for a new relic, thatll be annoying

[sacred verge]

unlock the one needing least speed

[true obsidian]

oh, i'm sorry, island in w2

[sacred verge]

oh

[untold lintel]

in theory, if I afk'd for like 365 days, with having the SB talent on for the unending loot, would I come back to having full super rare chests

[opaque sun]

Trash > seasalt/shimmer > crystal/rando > fractal is like the current consensus. “/“ means order can be swapped based on your needs

[cursive forge]

what is this man

[untold lintel]

like all just these chests if i AFK'D for like a year

[cursive forge]

[opaque sun]

At that stage any warm body is good enough

[untold lintel]

are miracle chests from gem shop any good?

[opaque sun]

its just slight better occult

[burnt gale]

would not buy it

[opaque sun]

You hardly see any difference for your purchase

[untold lintel]

i wanna just buy everything in the gem shop

[opaque sun]

And you can get miracle chests normally too

[untold lintel]

that would be so nice

[opaque sun]

Also gem shop miracle chest is random island so you cant choose which sucks

[untold lintel]

awe thats a turn off

[zinc torrent]

Can I somehow increase max loot (chest) capacity naturally besides gem shop?

[opaque sun]

Maybe its worth like what, 10 wooden chests

[zinc torrent]

Achievements and a artifact give more loot pile space

[placid mural]

I am dreading pushing my mman,bm, and BB to 500

[acoustic marten]

F my brother.

[oak pawn]

The math definitely ain't mathing????

[granite grove]

it's exponential, not multi

[oak pawn]

What is?

[granite grove]

Blood marrow calculation is exponential, but multi to your total cooking speed

(skill value)^(all dish level)

[fast verge]

Even then you shouldn’t buy chest

[oak pawn]

Do I just need more meal levels then?

[granite grove]

yes

it's bad early, but each of it multiplies with each other so it only gets better with time

[oak pawn]

Okay thank you

[granite grove]

For example, 1.01^1000 is like 21k% or x210 cooking speed

[oak pawn]

I see, thanks for clarifying

[granite grove]

And 1.01^2000 is x4.3m, and yes that is in whole numbers, not percent

[oak pawn]

It's crazy that you know this

[granite grove]

not really, you just calculate in calculator to know the values and maybe check wiki to see the base exponent

no, just rng, the flipping visual effects is just an illusion of choice, the game still does a random roll after the last final card flipping

[opaque sun]

1.0045 to the 120 power, and have to make that 1/100 again (yes, lava made a percent to another percent again)

[acoustic marten]

i cannot print/sample souls/critter, right?

[granite grove]

yes, cant be sampled for those 2

[acoustic marten]

sadge, i felt like recently i saw someone printing em out 😄

hopeful thinking

[viral snow]

Rift unlocks automatic critter collection every 24hr
Thats some sort of „printing“ atleast

[acoustic marten]

almost 😄

[burnt halo]

does it give XP?

[viral snow]

Yes to the one that places them iirc

[prime cloud]

Urm, I thought max stack was 1050m??

[pearl cedar]

Once collier triggers you will lose them no worries

[pure yarrow]

distance in sailing means the needed speed for a boat to travel 2 hours to an island right?

[steady beacon]

Does the double vial effect lab node ("my first chemistry set") mean that I already have a guaranteed double statue value, and don't need to level it any further?

[sacred verge]

you need to get 100%

means it needs to show 100%

[sick sentinel]

Yeah the displayed value is the actual boosted amount you have

[fathom lagoon]

Wish lava did that for everything lol

[steady beacon]

Ah, crud. Ok, long way to go then.

[weary sonnet]

Guys explain to me, is this a bug? Look at my 7 pink chests bought for gems. Previously, they could be activated and they disappeared, and instead of them, the chest increased. What happens if you delete them???

[potent lily]

What is the most used wood type?

[sacred verge]

wdym

[potent lily]

No you can stack rhem

[sacred verge]

read the item description

[bold quiver]

scam

this island is so much worth unlocking. cool design

[sacred verge]

which one is it?

fractal?

[bold quiver]

yew

i read the random and crystal both suck

so i'd rather get this one that has a very good trophy

[sacred verge]

yeah

from what ive heard its better to hold off on fractal tho

[bold quiver]

possible reduction of hour requirements?

[sacred verge]

nah but ppl are saying its not worth it atm

cus u can candy it later on

[bold quiver]

i mean, if u already have the first 3 there isnt anything else to get

[warped grail]

the rando one is good with gargabe bribe

[bold quiver]

crystal is useless for endgame, rando island is 1 extra event per week,

[warped grail]

cause you generate more garbage

[sacred verge]

cant say i disagree. just havent bought my 4th yet as i dunno which one. lol

[bold quiver]

yeah i was divided between rando and fractal

[sacred verge]

i was thinking crystals maybe

to farm up candy

[weary sonnet]

Guys, which islands need to be discovered in order of importance??

[warped grail]

garbage

[bold quiver]

Shimmer > Garbage > Seasalt, or Shimmer > Seasalt > Garbage

[warped grail]

sea salt, shimmer, rando, fractal, crystal

[weary sonnet]

I see a discrepancy in the answers

[bold quiver]

There are only 3 good islands

Seasalt, Garbage, Shimmer

[sacred verge]

i agree with darkness

garbage first

[bold quiver]

The other 3 islands are filer content

like this from garbage is very bad any part of the game u are at

the bribes are not great

First 2-3 islands are very cheap tho, i dont think it matters that much the order

[gleaming belfry]

whats the ideal use for the kitsune roxie in gaming?

[weary sonnet]

I've discovered the first three islands and feel like I'm missing a lot without discovering the last 3

[gleaming belfry]

just getting more evolutions?

[heady torrent]

You mean first three in order?

Because yeah then, shimmer and seasalt (if youre mid-late game are huge)

[sacred verge]

the DR stamp is nice

[bold quiver]

shimmer seasalt are very good islands, garbage is not as good as people thing imo

[sacred verge]

also garbage makes most sense as it needs quite some time to collect

this guy really fcked up tho

[bold quiver]

oh shit u got 2 useless islands instead of the best 2 islands lul

[true obsidian]

hm...11.4x droprate after 2h, seem ok?

[untold saffron]

don't you insult my slab slot island

[weary sonnet]

Shit!

[bold quiver]

yeah u kinda messed up pretty hard

[heady torrent]

Im in w4 and from what i know i will barely get any gains from seasalt : ), maybe my fishing eff is garbage though

[bold quiver]

not the end of the world, u are just not gonna get them anytime soon

[bold quiver]

yeah thats why i'd pick shimmer first

[untold saffron]

crystal is still alright imo

[bold quiver]

Shimmer > Garbage > Seasalt is my order

[untold saffron]

nothing special but its ight

[tidal sky]

trash is the most important, crystal and the nothing island should be last

[bold quiver]

i dont get why trash would be so important if those stamps are not good and the bribes are not good '.'

what are u aiming for there

[heady torrent]

More bottles

[sacred verge]

Dr stamp is good

[tidal sky]

its with the trash island that you unlock all other island faster, and it is not the bottles upgrade, that is actually not good

[heady torrent]

How do you boost it then

[bold quiver]

true 10-13% DR if u level it to close to max decent

imma get that once i sve more

[sacred verge]

iirc its more than that

but yeah, free DR is allways welcome

[sacred verge]

2x stamps

[bold quiver]

somewhere from 10 to 14% i'd say then

[tidal sky]

6 garbage % > bribes > 9 garbage % > stamps/book/nametag
Thats the optimal path to unlock every bonus in the shortest amount of time

this is what contract as mentioned

[solid epoch]

• it'll be multiplied by ur DR multipliers

So it's really like 18-20% prob

[bold quiver]

is it multiplicative?

[sacred verge]

nah but the pack and SB

[bold quiver]

oh u meant the SB talent

[sacred verge]

also the 1.20x pack

[bold quiver]

ill check it out once i buy that in a few days

yeah but we cant consider the pack :[

since its a p2w mechanic

[sacred verge]

still makes it even more value

many ppl got the pack so it worth mentioning

just goes to show what difference the stamp can make

[bold quiver]

yeah its good, but anyway, the first 3 islands are fast to unlock, so anyone of the 3 good ones u are fine

[sacred verge]

you would gladly take a 15% dr pants if they were offered 😛

[bold quiver]

oh yeah definetly, i made the mistake of buying that stupid bribe thing

should have checked on wiki before buying

[heady torrent]

Doesnt bribe only boost your bottles if you have rando island, which most people will get last to second last

[sacred verge]

i bought bribes aswell

[bold quiver]

u only get 1 or 2 garbage from random events, so tahts horrible

i was expecting at least 5 or more

[sacred verge]

after all, as long as you get garbage, seasalt and shimmer as your first 3 islands you are good

dosent have to be hyper optimal for everyone

[bold quiver]

it takes more than 2 months for that bribe to pay itself from random events

[solid hollow]

what does that number above my captain mean? 1 treasure in 2 hours? Can he keep sailing without rest? (when i startet it was 3 hours and the bar above his head was empty)

[edgy pine]

It means it takes that amount of hours to sail

Also it continues non stop

[violet iris]

Keeps going until the treasure pile is full.

[edgy pine]

It takes 3 hours for you for the guy to go to the island and back

[solid hollow]

how many spaces of trasure piles can i have? only one?

[edgy pine]

Yes also this but if you have a talent on siege breaker it won’t stop

I don’t remember but I think 10 or so

At the start

Unless I’m wrong

[tidal sky]

honestly it doesn’t matter that much by the time you unlock the bribe you can already unlock all islands but 2 and the last two should be crystal and afk, upgrading bottles is a waste

yesterday i unlocked the bribe and the rando island

im only missing the last 2

[solid hollow]

so something like: after 30 hours of sailing i hain't get extra treasures, so make sure to keep opening them?

[edgy pine]

Yep

[untold saffron]

anyone happen to know what level 20.4% plant evo chance is at?

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/PzxmUlv.png

[edgy pine]

But if you have siege breaker then upgrade the talent that upgrades your treasures by combining your extra ones

[solid epoch]

i dont think i upgraded much past 20.4 so its prob 310-313

[untold saffron]

sick, 4 levels off

[solid epoch]

most likely 313

[edgy pine]

What is so special about 20.4

Is it the max or what

[untold saffron]

nothing, its just the next % i can get to

[solid epoch]

its .1 higher than 20.3

[edgy pine]

Ah ok

[untold saffron]

and I'm sure the scaling to 20.5 would be painful

[sacred cosmos]

Just got mine to lvl 300, is there much point to pushing it? Wouldn't speed be better at this point?

[solid epoch]

y not both

[old portal]

how to get guaranteed recipe drops?

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/CXdRHp2.png

[sacred cosmos]

Oh

[solid epoch]

tryin to get to 2.1 rn

[sacred cosmos]

Yours is muuuuuch higher than mine there haha

[pseudo blaze]

Hello, is there a way to like farm divine knight orb kills before killing dr defecus besides like event mobs

[sacred cosmos]

I'm 355 from memory

[violet iris]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1085023989769969746

[solid epoch]

squirrel helps a lot

[sacred cosmos]

Yea the squirrels helping a tonne

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/4b6dWuz.png

i kinda slacked on mine

[sacred cosmos]

We've got similar speeds there

[solid epoch]

but after reaching 4x on bit multi i think its useless to level that one up lol

[sacred cosmos]

The snail is my biggest setback atm, keep getting reset 😭

[solid epoch]

gotta go all in on speed

[sacred cosmos]

Ah, I keep doing mine one each

Figured at the higher amount the little percentage increases would be significant

[zinc torrent]

i have arctis linked, why does my lab sometimes is not activated? am i doing something wrong?

[solid epoch]

are u linked on every character?

u have to link each specific character to 1 god to get the effect

for that char

[atomic flicker]

What are the pros and cons of 2x Bubos vs 2x ES?

[solid epoch]

uhh with 2 ES means u will have 2 chars that can link to 2 gods at a time. 2 bubo will help earlygame if u need to speed up ur cauldrons but pretty useless late

bubo benefits lab while ES benefits divinity, so if ur lab is done then having another ES might help with divinity

[atomic flicker]

If i have doot, 2 ES would only benefit my divinity

[solid epoch]

yeah but if ur done with lab thats still fine

[frigid karma]

es also better afk farmer cuz of multikill

can slap it on gmush

[iron nymph]

How do I increase the storage limit of the smith

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/iZkSKH0.png

increase the carry cap of the relevant character

[tall horizon]

If you mean forge, very difficult. If you mean anvil, carry cap scales with mat

[solid epoch]

other than that its just putting points

[iron nymph]

Forge

[tall horizon]

Forge has very limited ways to increase

[iron nymph]

[solid epoch]

forge theres an arcade bonus thats gone now

lul

achievements maybe

[iron nymph]

lava pls

[solid epoch]

das it

[iron nymph]

my oil gets sucked up s ofast

[solid epoch]

dont use oil on copper bars then

use it on void+

[iron nymph]

I need copper....

lava bls

[sand summit]

Don't use oil on copper
man it's not worth it

[iron nymph]

that's why lava bls

[zinc torrent]

no, only 2 but i have the mummy pet so it should work to all right?

[solid epoch]

yea

[zinc torrent]

but sometimes it does

sometimes it doesnt

idk what makes it not trigger when i go check the lab and it doesn't work

[fathom lagoon]

Make sure your first guy is in range of the starting gem so it creates the connection

[muted bramble]

is this what peaked performance is ?

[heady torrent]

Everyone has mummy pet besides me 🥲

[solid epoch]

it works then, the lab sometimes bugs out when checking it. i usually exit then go back in and its fixed

think it has to do with those nodes that increase ur lab width pixels

[tall horizon]

do you have every character at level 2+ div?

Any character that doesnt have level 2 or higher divinity, deactivates doot when you switch to it.

[fathom lagoon]

Oh damn it deactivates it entirely? Good to know

[tall horizon]

until you swap to a character that meets the criteria, yup.

[zinc torrent]

good to know this thank you very much!

[upbeat trout]

hi, can i somehow turn off this enhancement ?

[tall horizon]

reset vman talents

[frail mauve]

Reset your vman talents

[zinc torrent]

curious, why would you want to turn it off?

[upbeat trout]

i want to get 150 score achiv, and kinda imposible since it s eating up my coins\

[digital sand]

anyone know if the world 4 completionist quest works on Vman yet?

[tall horizon]

Still bugged

[violet iris]

Lol unforeseen consequences

[solid epoch]

ayy finally got god rank 3 on a 5%

[final relic]

I have 1 bil suggma kills with 7-10dr on all my characters and I active my es with 10dr every single night. still no lava glove recipe. Is that normal or am I getting unlucky

[solid epoch]

whats ur ES dmg/portal count avg

[final relic]

I get to like 110 portal and has 15 bil damage

[solid epoch]

ah ok kinda low, thats prob why

[final relic]

Ahh okay 👍🏻 I’ll take a break for a bit then

[sharp wind]

Did u remember to take off midas on ES?

[final relic]

I have Kruk weapons on all my other characters and only diabolical gloves on my vman😓

[paper sail]

Keep in mind that the 1b kills you are seeing includes Multikill and KPK, neither of which help your Drop Rate on Rare Items

[final relic]

Yes I took off Midas. Multi kill is 3500%

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/WTte9Mo.png

just did a test

i got mine in like 2 nights of active ES

[paper sail]

So then in reality, you've only killed 300m base enemies

[final relic]

Damnnnnm. Yeah no I can’t get 200 portal

[final relic]

Ahh okay thank you

[solid epoch]

yeah thatll take a while, that test was 11-23T dmg

[paper sail]

Ye it's just slow a.f.

[solid epoch]

thats one of the reasons im pushing my dmg so high, so that my ES can get big portals on any mob

when w6 comes out having a big portal to farm the new rares will be nice

[muted bramble]

new rares ?

Also do we have any ETA on W6 ?

[solid epoch]

rare drops

[muted bramble]

oh i see

[solid epoch]

theres bound to be new ones

but even for farming old rares like pearler shells for a better vial

getting to like a 300 portal on pearlers would be sick

[muted bramble]

im set for W5

[solid epoch]

want to be able to farm the vial out really quick, only way to do that is giga dmg

[upbeat trout]

i got last bubble for archer today, damage went up by alot, so broken

[solid epoch]

yeah its a nice % increase

[spice frigate]

hmm 9th char ideas? i have DK, BM, ES, Barb, Bubo, Bowman, Journeyman and Squire

[solid epoch]

maybe a 2nd bowman

or a 2nd ES

[elfin idol]

Ive been rolling 0.9% for last gaming plant type for a month, is this my life now

[sacred verge]

09 is very high

roll lower

[solid epoch]

roll 0.1%

[sacred verge]

05 max

[elfin idol]

ill give that a go

[sacred verge]

also it took me like 4mnths to get it on 0.1

[solid epoch]

better to do more quantity over quality

[elfin idol]

Thanks, sucks to be stuck on the green currency this long

[solid epoch]

its so u can get prepped to be stuck on red currency for ur entire lifetime

[stoic void]

should i be rolling with midas minded when farming statues?

[vestal delta]

halfway done the grind, kill me

[stoic silo]

do you think it is viable to try and chow boops?

[vestal delta]

idk about superchow, but regular chow is very doable

[stoic silo]

and they aren't capped by daily respawn?

[vestal delta]

yeah but you can have like 1000x multikill or whatever and it's not that bad

[stoic silo]

ah ok

what are the best sources for multikill?

[vestal delta]

too many to list
but definitely make sure your deathnote is basically maxed out on red skulls, or black skulls (when you get rift high enough)

[lavish cloak]

is there a chart to see the best places to farm each golden foods? i'm currently looking at golden jam

[paper sail]

Guess I gotta burn the 5* cardifier now

[paper sail]

I think Colo tends to be the best if you're willing to burn tickets

[quaint grove]

I'm about to lavaskull suggmas with no recipe drop, am I doomed to suffer eternally

[violet iris]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Golden_Jam

[paper sail]

Deathnote includes Multikill and KPK, neither of which help your chances at getting the Recipe to drop. Bad stat to compare to.

[exotic juniper]

Am I gaming the right way? This is what the cool kids do, yeah?

[sacred verge]

this is wrong

[glacial venture]

i see no order in that

[sacred verge]

sorry

[quaint grove]

Good to know, still, free me from this mortal coil, I don't think I'm ever getting those fists :T

[violet iris]

Looks like colosseum and post office are the only farmable sources. You get most from the daily picnic quest though

[paper sail]

You can always come back later with better damage/DR for Active ES farming :c

[solemn spire]

i have had all the 6 plants in the 4th growth stage and waiting on the 5th for like two weeks already smh

[paper sail]

I sure wouldn't say most. A single Colo gives several times more than Picnic quest on all 10 characters.

[lavish cloak]

so not a lot of people have a stack of a million golden jam boosting their mining gains. good to know

[glacial venture]

dont remind me of golden jam...did royal wurm quest and got golden jam.....

[violet iris]

ouch

[quaint grove]

Think 1.1bil top end with 12x dr isn't enough?

[wheat kiln]

Guys i want to ask somthing , becouse i have 1600 wis on lab first buble and whit my choper now i have 70 m sample .

[solid epoch]

unless ur trying to farm out the T6 chemical plant, id not do that lol

[paper sail]

Can always go higher 👍

[exotic juniper]

Haha I just wanted to see if I could @solid epoch

[wheat kiln]

Can you guys show me what wis you have and what sample you have whit you choper guy

[paper sail]

There is a lot more going on than JUST wisdom..

[wheat kiln]

I know

[glacial venture]

max log on logs skill

[wheat kiln]

Is not just wis

I have

[paper sail]

My Purple1 bubble is 2700, highest sample is just over 1b oaks

[wheat kiln]

Ok thank you scoli

[lavish cloak]

i dunno how much that'll help.

[wheat kiln]

I will work for more wis than

[paper sail]

But I can guarantee that just increasing your purple1 bubble by 1100 more isn't getting you from 70m to 1000m

[wheat kiln]

Lol you are a best

[glacial venture]

feasty helps a lot too

[wheat kiln]

I know i need buble 3

To

[lavish cloak]

you need ALL the bubbles

[paper sail]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AYl8fAqHkxDoXhINAjO3MiSOB-W2ZUtH9TVhA5w-tK4/edit#gid=972375363 You can look at my "Logs 2023-08-31" tab for more details

[wheat kiln]

Hmmmm oak log benefit from strang wtf

[paper sail]

...strang?

[wheat kiln]

Strangth

My english is bad sorry

[lavish cloak]

probably better than my ability to speak your native language.

[paper sail]

Oak logs have nothing to do with Strength. Not sure where you got that impression

[wheat kiln]

From you docs

Look at you link

[vestal delta]

is it possible to do two w2 colosseum runs in a single orb?

[paper sail]

It's my document.. I'm aware of what it says 😂

[solid epoch]

are u on the ores tab??

[paper sail]

Should be looking at this tab for Logs

[sick sentinel]

yep, as long as the icon in the top right is up it counts. the orb number doesnt carry over but it essentially resets down to 0 count on room refresh

oh colo 2 specific? maybe im not sure

i dont fuck with 2 that much

[vestal delta]

it has this annoying time gate for the waves 😓

[paper sail]

You can, assuming you take off HP prayers

[wheat kiln]

Ohhh i seee now thank you

[sharp wind]

Ahh so colo 3 is possible to do 2 runs in 1 orb??

[sick sentinel]

for sure

[sharp wind]

Wow all this time i wait till my cd over

[paper sail]

I did for a long time as well lol

You can squeeze in 3 W1 colos if you're fast

[sick sentinel]

same, you'll have some variance in drops cause thats just how it is

[paper sail]

The worst part is having to stop and drop all the stinky non-stacking armor

[paper nova]

is gemshop the only way to increase your sailing loot pile?

[sick sentinel]

task board too

and arti

[cerulean hemlock]

W2 colo neglect! It's as if it's the hardest one to farm

[paper sail]

and achievements

[paper nova]

ty

[sharp wind]

I never do that anymore, i just keep all candy gems rare items keys

[paper nova]

got task board and barely looked at it lol

[vestal delta]

well after wasting several tickets on attempting 2x w2, it appears that...no it is not possible to do double (at 270 orb talent)

[paper sail]

+6 Eldritch Dreamcatcher artifact
+12 Gem Shop
+2 Achievements (Artifact Finder, Gilded Vessel)
+7 from Merit
+3 Base
30 total loot pile max

[paper sail]

Are you running any HP boosting prayers? They make W2 colo take longer. Big Brain, Midas, Jawbreaker

[vestal delta]

I'll try turning them off
it basically forces me to sit in an empty arena for 20 seconds between waves

[paper sail]

You should also knock your Orb down to 267. You're losing duration by having it anywhere from 268 through like 310 or something

[paper sail]

Correct. That is BECAUSE of the HP Prayers boosting the "health" of the skilling nodes

[vestal delta]

k turned them off, trying again

nah it's still taking like 20 seconds of downtime between waves even without them

[paper sail]

Cloudsave back to the player menu with the prayers off

You should only have like 5-10 seconds downtime with the prayers off, definitely not 20

[balmy kiln]

Is there a specific vman card setup when doing runs?

[lavish cloak]

multikill and damage probably, unless you're switching to a sampling snapshot

[vestal delta]

5:00 wave 5
4:38 wave 9
4:11 wave 14
3:58 wave 15

after cloudsaving with all prayers off...basically except for like 2-3 seconds, everything else is down time 💤

meanwhile, all other colosseums are basically 30s max

[long siren]

If I link bear and goat on my es will I get divinity gains while out of the lab?

[vestal delta]

at best, you can get 6x prints from rabbit + bear
or: goat + rabbit and stick them in lab for div + 6x

but you can never get div gains outside of lab

[paper sail]

We need to get that question/answer pinned. Gets asked 10 times every day

[long siren]

OK thanks, goat and rabbit sounds decent

[flint belfry]

Hey dude is it possible to get all active bubbles ? Idleonefficiency said that..

[lavish cloak]

companions. the sheep companion specifically.

[flint belfry]

oh this is OP

didn't notice sheepy did that XD

[crude flower]

pet did it bro, mummy pet all divine active lol

[mild merlin]

Sheepie pet all bubbles active,no divinity gives bubbles

[manic prism]

Whats the most optimal build rate setup with the gem shop cogs

[paper sail]

Depends on 1 Squire or 2. This setup hits all 8 cogs on the Right Squire, but only 6 on the left. You can use a different setup for an even 7/7 but imo this is better.

[manic prism]

2 squires

[manic prism]

Can you show me your entire board

[paper sail]

That image is accurate for 2 squares then

Mine isn't perfect 🤷

[manic prism]

i just want it for reference mine isnt perfect either but yours is better than mine for sure

[paper sail]

I don't have enough of the Omni/corner cogs

[manic prism]

thank you!

[rose bridge]

Which should I use for my first magma pieces?

[mild merlin]

W5 stones

Else if you have bad luck you'll have to recraft it,which means recrafting troll armour

[rose bridge]

Great thanks, im guessing those are super end game when you can craft multiple of the kruk gear?

or are they just bait lol

[paper sail]

They are high risk, low reward

Best case is what, 16 extra stats and 8 weapon power?

[rose bridge]

yeah, guess its minimal

[paper sail]

Worst case is a dead piece of gear that you can "fix" by upgrading it to Kruk chest lol

[rose bridge]

which isnt unlocked yet :D

Only got 1 char to Kruk

[paper sail]

Definitely not worth the risk at that point

[rose bridge]

For sure, thanks! Ive just gone back and done rifts to unlock eclipse skulls