#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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Well, my snail just got a restart going from 10 to 11 for the third time in a row.... great mechanics...
I mean, are you just yoloing without any encouragements?
I used 7 encouragements before trying
should bubo or dk be the first char to push through w5?
I YOLO til 9, then start using encouragements
So when you guys deposit statues do you take them out of your storage like x amount at a time,..?
DK, imo
I did for the Kachow statues. Everything else I couldn't be bothered with
Looking at my startue bubble... I don't even think i care rn.. it's 3% lol
maybe later
I'd level that bubble first, but you do you
🤷 I like it
lmao
nice
ok, at 8% for now
When should i start worrying about onyx statues? Are they the ones that require like a thousand of a specific statue all at once?
Does it go in order? rn i'm on power statue 20k
oh ok. cause ya 20k will not be short for me anytime soon lol
No, you just drop 20K at the statue man in any order. But you need to unlock it through the questline first.
Power is the first for the quest. After that quest gives you the Onyx Tools, you can turn any statue onyx going forward.
aight, dk it is 🙂
already the furthest anyway
bubo sitting at lvl 80 or something lol xD
waves 80 citrus fight. going to clear it 🙂
What are the chances lmao
Should I swap my 3 Omni's to Bear so I can do the Mole Quests on them?
Really don't wanna do them 1 at a time
That's what I did 

Stinky beginner 
Look at the number, other stinky person
It's a level 1 character lmao
best way to go for the quest deal 10k damage in tower defense? full kraken?
It's my 10th character and I couldn't be asked to work on him so I threw him into div the moment I got em
For the Royal Wurm? Yeah, full stall Kraken with only 1 attack tower so you don't lose 😛
Probably a void or two in there
isnt it 10k basic damage from your char?
well he's sitting in lab since i got here pretty much
or is it 10k hit from tower
5k personal, plus wave 55
I just did mine a few hours ago
oh 5k personal thats true. not 10k
If you are using a DK, take off Divine Intervention before you start so you don't respawn the normal enemies like I did D:
i guess bubo would be very good for that true
Is there any reason to keep doing sailing once I have all artifacts eldritched? Just futur content?
gotta get them red boats
also if you get your loot value high enough, you can bihourly click big P
probably won't be more sailing but go for 60m speed/ as much as gold as possible for opera mask's pathetic buff
Any advice then on end game sailing? Or just same old same old?
yeah, do boats. get chests, cry when you don't get artifact
Nobisect bonus "All kills count for 2x more kills for opening portals and accumulating Deathnote kills. " what does "opening portals" mean exactly?
Unlocking new maps
so every time i open up a new map, all kills counts as times2
?
hey guys quick question, what should be my priority in w5 gem shop early on?
I mean... If the portal to open a new map says you need 1000 kills, Nobisect makes each kill count for 2. If you have the Lab bonus too, then it counts for 4. That is before Multikill or KPK gets added.
Chest slugs
Ye ye. 1 point into Golden Sprinkler is OP because it unlocks the basic Sprinkler import at the same time
Chest slugs at the end are also a ripoff because the chest limit is hardcapped at 30, despite more than 30 being available. That means the final upgrade or two is eating your gems for literally no reward 🙂 (Gimme refund Lava)
thanks apreciate that
manualy loot statues...meaning active only counts?
Just means collected BY that character. You cannot withdraw from storage basically
gottcha
30? I'm only getting 29 🤔
2days for the 100m kills i guess not bad to start on w1
I don't want to redo my Obol snapshots to go there in game, but yes, 30
how good is this hat?
yeah iam asking how good is it for a 5% all stats
It's pretty decent, although there's other priorities for gem spending unless you don't mind it
The wiki doesn't have a list of what actually gives more loot pile max, so I'm not totally sure what all counts 🤷 I know you can get 6 from Eldritch artifact, and then +12 from the Gem Shop for 18..
insight does
isnt artifact bugged?
1 is plenty as Bubo money farming hat
What is the amount of drops from a boss dependent on, like the number of drops not the rarity
What's the base amount though?
I've got all eldritch artifacts and bought all the chest slugs from the gem shop
oh not sure, thought it was 3, but that math wouldnt add up with what you wrote then 🤔
Main thing is
Gem Shop
Merit Shop
Artifact
and Achievement
Max is 20.
Can anyone please answer me
Just got this bad boiiii
https://i.imgur.com/J9jAajo.png
+6 Eldritch Dreamcatcher artifact
+12 Gem Shop
+2 Achievements (Artifact Finder, Gilded Vessel)
+7 from Merit
That's 27 right there. If the base is 3, then you do end up exactly at 30 without any loss. Maybe I'm wrong then.
I already got 29 before eldritch dream catcher
and when I got eldritch dream catcher I was disappointed that I still got 29
Ah. Maybe that was what I saw
dreamcatcher doesnt give more the higher the artifact is btw
Just always 2?
Think the actual bonus is something different
Yes i know what it says, but we all know what's written in game doesnt always mean what it does 
Right that's what I'm trying to clarify
oh nvm
sorry im asleep, always happens when i just wake up
Max is 30*
Max boats was 20*
I mean if so, then the total is 23 not 27. So where are the other 7 coming from lmao
Nawh maybe dreamcatcher is right,
Your math adds up
6, 12, 2, 7 = 27 + 3 base
And if you're only getting 29 thats because of SB talent 11
Ah, good call. I always forget Unending Loot Search won't let you fill your last slot to avoid the boats piling up
Which i wouldn't use ever again unless you check your pile less than once a day kinda thing
is it better to use that talent or minimum chest rarity?
Yeah.. I only use it if I beef it and claim multiple AFKs at once without checking the pile and end up with 100 hours to claim
Never touch min chest rarity
I disagree 🤔
same
Why? sb talent 11 would do the same thing but be better..
I was away for 17 hours with it and came back with full 15+ chests second rarity
would have lost so much otherwise
Any tip for Max MP Shimmer Trial please?
Yeh now take what i said into account..
this was a one time thing tho so I do see your point
- Set minimum filter to Iron
- Switch character, claim 12+ hours afk
- Go to loot pile, let ships bounce around, then accumulate at the dock
- BEFORE opening loot, change the minimum filter back to Wood
- Now you get to open <lootpile amount> of Iron+ chests, plus <boat amount> of Wood+ chests
How to do "Nothing" when I go to the fractal island it counts as fishing, when I stay in town it won't rwcord any progress
If you're in that sweet spot of like 10-14 hours, doing that "trick" is just a net gain.
Does multikill affect boss rewards?
it's a bug for mobile, currently you can't. town should work, but you cant spend candy
That sounds like a lot of layers to mess up and lose out on stuff xD
Although I see your point, 1 misclick and "ups"
Not much worse than anything else I have to do.
coloseums dont drop soundcloud quest items right?
probably at their low terrible drops
either way, didnt i tell you yesterday to just do crystals? 👀
yeah you did I know but I have like 1 in 145 crystal chance on my non vman characters
its way to slow man
Ive been using some boss keys rn since they drop a good amounth but still its not half a mill
a 1 in 3 drop rate on crystals vs like 1/800 on mobs
you could just open the wiki and check rates
I did check yeah
I was farming demon genies and rams for a bit
its incredably slow
Dont see it as "i have to farm soundcloud"
see it as "im doing this other stuff"
Like.. get your 4* demon genie card, poop card, etc..
and along the way you automatically get them
Im just really salty I didnt have the quest on while I was farming 1mill DN for vman
Lol I'm right there with you stevke.
My characters are lvl 200-300 and im just now doing that quest on 1 of them....
its hell
thing is.. cloudsound is literally the easiest of them all
Like nearly everything drops cloud
if it was only accessible at the start for everyone not just miners
Isn't it only like lvl 10 or 15 mining?
this way I just give up on it early game and have problems later
Eh, higher crystal rate, better drop rate, everything like that makes it easier later on.
were you lvl 10 in mining with your mage at the start? No you were amazed by everything else
Lol...
I actually did get lvl 10-15 on every alts skills pretty early on for extra talent points and weapon stats
Seems like you've maxed your vial of cope xD
Got everyone to gold tools very early on xD
But also either way. Farming that stamp out is way harder earlier on anyways, due to low crystal rate, low drop rate, etc..
Those sweet sweet talent points
Oops I didn't mean to reply sorry
not everyone was that bright when starting this game aight
I didnt do the quest till elites myself
I think 🤔
yeah but you started it
I mean... even if you started it off at 15 mining, it would still take forever to complete.
Honestly I just have goldfish brain and forget about the game for a couple days at a time
so you were able to get from early no?
You keep missing my point
It would be damn irrelevant if you had the quest from world 1 already..
Yea he's just stuck in his salty thinking loop
because your drop rate is basically negative 10
yeah youre right
Stop feeling sorry for yourself and finding excuses looking into the past, and look forward of how things can change
I started the quest before w2 was even done
with 40 kph you aint getting it either way
I'm still working on it
Theres like a million things people have missed and gone on to play the game for months before realizing.
I didnt realize card sets were a thing until late w3.
Like this one quest is such a minor thing and you're letting it get to you lol
sometime into w3 I discovered the barbarians fishing worm skill is active
It's better than yondergreen's BS
its the goddamn stamps
It's a long term quest even if all 10 chars have it
No does anything ever get deleted after doing a quest?
Lol yea lots get deleted :P
That's a different thing
Handing something it consumes an item
Thought you meant completing the quest if it deletes all the other items
that is how it sounded
Wiki says Yes, It is consumed.
I should complete it on vman?
Does it really matter which char completes it?
Now, yes, with star talents giving skill effy and luck etc.
typically yes cayse of quest chungus
Oh yeah I forgot about that
some day i have to run through vman to do all that stuff xD
Shoot I need to go on a questing spree with my vman
Especially for: https://i.imgur.com/dvLD10O.png
youre crazy
You greenstack the items too btw?
Can someone please tell me what was it that gives a small Bonus from every prayer without curse If no prayer is active?
knowing scoli, probably
Of course. Enough spares for #11 and #12 to turn in without breaking GS too
Either way, don't use it, it's terrible. (only has 1 use and that would be colo2)
It's a superbit unlock in gaming
such as me
not slabbing pete 
Oh 😦
Who/what is Pete?
the peanut
Issue with it is also that you have to unequip your 3D print prayer, meaning deleting all your samples 

the great BEANS disparity
mman
OH RIGHT THE ROTTEN THING
Buddy
the non rotten one
guymontag
We here beanin'
i took a break after i hit 1k on feasty 
doing cauldron rates now...
Ugh I'm having to save all my statues to onyx them still
How do i Level schönes?
I only have 3 to go. Bullseye was like 3k away last time I looked
Shinies?
the game is lying to me, was so happy for a second xD
https://i.imgur.com/VfQ0Uij.png
put them into the fenceyard
You put them in the fenceyard
Shines are supposed to be shitty you put them in the yard for bonuses
time
Rounding man strikes again
Oh you mean leveling the Bonus
lets go
Still got some alts to check 😄
https://i.imgur.com/TtHPhtg.png
Maestro in the name was a little shortsighted eh
Gottem.

My guy is named jman 
clearly should be called beginner
Named them after what they "should" do, because initially i thought different classes i could give my own purpose xD
Same, got a guy name chopper and miner lmao
Imagine givng names
every name of my chars is an alternation of bechfalo
yeh for me it was like "this guy will grind skills, this guy pure combat, this one a bit of a mix" then i went to end game skills like ES = divine for divinity. xD
no specific things to diffrentiate them, no nothing.
theyre all just bechfalo
(expect for mman he deservers to be skillfalo)
I was briefly trying to recreate 1700s America
That sounds very bad..

Yikes..
wtb name change
awesome
everyone who was in div link to goat right
Yay got my lvl 13 nails (and thread already done)
https://i.imgur.com/m1pdJdQ.png
What do you all anvil produce after that?
Bricks for 250 Crystallin
right
i print bricks + pvc pipe + tangled cords
I should greenstack my anvil mats again too
just got those into atom range now so might just do thread + bricks now
only thread and chains are greenstacked atm 👀
I wish. Not even half that
swiggty swooty im coming for that booty
you can easily greenstack all of the later ones with much less than that
low 2k gang
lets go
I was atom-poor so dumped LUK 😭
That's the cap material?
1000M yes
#1084911530417606656 has the max atom cost per bubble when it hits 1000m cost
Set based on the bubble #, yeah
the worst part is that the liquid increases though
Almost 140s on my stat bubbles 🫠 I have to Bubo twice a day
Welp no Big problem with mages
i just added 3 more clicks to my printer so it costs just under 600 liquid for a round of clicks
My problem atm is slow atom production
I wish i had last pet so i can have harriep and bear to everyone
860 liquid per hour in clicks
and it only gets higher 
I'm at 726 liquid1 always, plus some higher liquids but nobody cares
No point in leveling that one if ur atoming slap
I called it at 1k to print other Ores
eh its worth printing it
I feel like theres just no real downside to just click it
I think it's a waste of water to work on multiple base dmg bubbles when u can just boost one up as high as possible
🤷
yea but you end up CCing often enough
where the cost of name i guess doesnt really matter
and its still a nonnegligible gain to do so
It ain't a problem now but when they start costing a ton of water I'd rather upgrade the one with more value to the water
oh for sure
yeah maybe ill stop printing it if it gets to be a problem
by then ill probably have already moved that print slot over to something else
Since u gotta level name I guess 3x higher than slap to get a similar value
Big water usage at high lvls
but im already printing copper iron gold and dementia
right now, the only other thing I'd be printing is coppper for atoms, cant even bihourly larry or severa
cant quite do a fast void print yet and plat is useless
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How do you Guys have so much liquid?
i got it to 90%...
maybe the play is to just click as many hourly bubbles as you can and just perma-bubo 
Same. I toggle 4th ore between Void and just extra Copper for Atoms lol. I already print over 500m Dem and can't get it to 1000m per hour so pointless.
How did you get to 7k liquid?
Sooo My 2nd SB and DK won't get much active time anytime soon. Should I spec their active talents lower and just spam lvls into the otherwise or will I regret that eventually if they aren't leveled up enough when i finally want to active them? (If ever)
Hmmm... just got the meteorite ring (chat ring) which shows as having 3 upgrade slots yet I can't put any type of upgrade stone into it. Am I missing something?
Thanks mate
premier upgrade stones
Fair enough, thanks!
thoughts anyone?
talent resets are basically free if you farm crystals
I guess you're right. I do have a stack just sitting around. Good pt
just maximize AFK gains and you will ahve a lot of pts left over still
I filtered them for a while lol
for DK, you should have one max orb skill and other max gaming skills, same with SB but wiht saililng and plunder
if you leave them all as fragments, you can just take the stack out and hold one to make the potion
+1 bank slot
i just drop the whole potions if im not gonna use em lol
fair
im perma full bank
i realized the only way i'm ever going to get full chip sets on my characters is if i buy out the weekly chips every week
will the new head and boots always be better than the precious for dmg? we only keep the previous for sampling right
I want to build a gem shop calculator but haven't had time

Opposite. Kruk loses damage, but gains either Drop Rate or Respawn instead
even his old nug is better than mine that i have for about 2 months or longer now....
Im on an 18k, but basically done with gaming :/
so new set only for dk and es then, and maybe vman
Not even necessarily "set"
@bright current What lvl is your conch shell thingy?
yeah, head and boots
I guess rank is the exact detail i want
AFK SB loves Respawn
rank is 21
Dang, nice. I'm on 12
kitsune helps a lot with shell
For some reason my gaming is insanely high lvl compared to all my other skills... Idk if I got lucky with gold nuggets. Or its naturally a fast skill?
Max gold nugget is 1662
Fast
both gaming and sailing are pretty fast because they are passive
I see, perhaps I got lucky with nuggets?
Except Fungi 
me and my homies hate fungi
2k early on is fine, but not extremely lucky or anything
does your dk think he is a vman?
Anything under 100k is a bad nuggie
Huh?
Bad nuggie gang
scoli firing shots at literally everyone 
all quite high skill lvls^^
Trickz took Skill Mastery personally
Gotta get all skills (w1-2) to 100 😄
Main skill for each alt to 120, then vman to 121-125ish
wtf i should do bc idk
alchemy
yw, that'll be $5
which bubble
all of them
all
most of they are shit
How much damage do you need on maestro to beat nightmare kattle within 10mins?
wtf am i gonne do with 10% crit dmg
Ehhhh 80b maybe less
veryyyy high...cause you will mostly fight moles
i aint gonne get hard from that
You will when you have 200% crit
Is this before or after the 5x crit?
Sheet damage.
Thanks
There's a pin that shows you too 👀
sometimes there's more to life than getting hard
just as reminder....dont sleep on trapping exp on vman....its his bottleneck
^- Bigger reminder: ONLY USE XP TRAPS on Vman
even bigger reminder...use transfusion when setting exp traps^^
Do I need to set and collect traps only on Vman
bigger reminder, dont forget to make a questionable 9/11 joke today
or am I good to collect with eagle eye?
Gigantic reminder: Do the dishes before Mom gets home or you're grounded
why cant usa and uk play chess? the usa lost 2 towers and the uk the queen
I managed to roll doot companion before I'd unlocked w5. I just unlocked snake in divinity but now appear to have all divinity bonuses... Lab shows characters in it even though they're not, I think that's goat/bear? Slightly overwhelmed unlocking everything from a whole mechanic at once... Anyone got any tips or is this a bug?
questionable enough?
i just realized, americans probably hate me
Thank you!
tiger is purrmep?
DOOT so crazy i s2g
doot changes atoms a lot
doot owners' character select screen be like
not mine
why the one guy on tiger?
too lazy to unlink^^
lmao
Does Goat override Bear if characters are in lab?
for me its still more of a cat than a tiger^^
well tigers are cats so...
Imagine having doot… im 30-40 buys off guaranteed doot fml
@vagrant mountain Do you know that your profile pic is picception?
just reminded me i need to finish it
i made it quickly on my phone
now i have computer
Why does it do that. In chat it has bubbles on it but if you click into it then it's a phone?
Didnt mean to reply to cryo -.-
I haven't made it to t5 treat I don't think 🤔
I need the entire collection of clickable bubbles raining down
lol is that what the bubbles in the pic are? hourly bubbles?
Nawh, no way. Still pick gods, because 🍝 code won't let me risk not getting the benefits i want/need xD
The 3 stat bubbles
o.o why though
What bubbles?
in @vagrant mountain 's profile pic
you will understand when you start clicking them
My interpretation is how clicking bubbles hourly for months has turned us into soulless husks 🙃
And yet, she persisted.
recipe when
What means Guaranteed Random Event once a week in Rando Island? One free daily event instant waiting you there at weekly reset?
finally rolled red boaty!
tips how to get recipe faster? my lowest dr is 7dr on any chars
I farmed all the recipes with ES with 7-8DR but it only took me several hours per recipe (except molten core knucklers that one is a nightmare)
Took me like 40 hours of afk for the pincers O_O and like.. an hour for the w3 one.
I got the w3 one before unlocking IV anvil, used it and saw later it didnt count
Oh wow, I didnt know that was a thing
Well this is annoying lol
I've been upgrading my garbage % and bottle %, should I not?
I did lvl 6 garbage and save up for bribe
I did garbage % 5 times, then the 1st 2 stamps. Now saving for bribes. I wouldnt bother with bottle % until later
wouldnt getting just garbage upgrade be the best?
Probably in the long run
Recommended is 6 garbage, bribe, 10 garbage then the rest
What is 90% for bubble 2?
is this achievement bugged? I've never seen the number increase
u need to open the ui
There's a button in your guild to change your displayed character, do that a few times and it'll resync and work
thaaaank you that instantly did it!
Ye same thing happened to me haha
well then...back to farming 3000 hampters 🙃
Achievements in this game are wack sometimes lol
holy shitsu
Honestly, nearly all comes down to the same thing, ui not updating unless you open/reload it. often at it's core form.
nug double!
how do I maximize my movement speed and start zooming
Do you get better cogs the more they are uncolected? I just get shitty ones
use potion foods and get feasty
rng, higher level = bigger range
when do you guys start getting apoc chow? i mean what kph usually
rolled a bean today
if i get doot should i quit divinity
nah
there's still benefits to it, minor bonus scales with div level
but you can definitely put it on hold for other things
like what bonuses
Snek: Def/acc%
Bear: Talent level
Nobisect: Damage%
Harriper: Coin% (all characters)
Goat: afk% (all)
omni: Class exp
purr: Sailing/gaming speed
Birb: skill exp
Also minors are based on div level
more = better
if i dont have door i should start putting chars off at hare right
Gotta get 999 div
my magnum opus
Doot is op.
what speed do people usually stop at for anvil? think maybe its time to go to capacity, but unsure what im aiming for
Pretty sure people do speed to the moon.
peeps put like 100 on capacity the rest is on speed
Is plunderous mob kills based on the coins picked up or # of mobs killed while flag is up?
the capacity you have should be enough for 24hrs of whatever you're producing
if the snakeskin vial is above 100% do i have a chance to get 3x the statues deposited?
.< My mman used to have a 3 hr.. then i moved it to 6.. I htink he is at 12-14 rn lol.
XP ftw bb
holy shit I have 40 gilded stamps wtf should I spend them on
that makes sense, yeah. ive taken to just putting my non archers on faster mats and archers on the pvc/cords/whatever to not cap out over whatever period i p;an on being afk
i use most of my excess gilded stamps on mason jar / gold food stamp / w5 stat stamps
then the rest is kinda whatever
obviously multitool and crystal spawn if you can
the skilling efficiency ones that require X number of pickaxes/axes is good too
The new DR stamp 
is it huge?
cant seem to find info on it
I'm getting 27% so far before counting SB or the bundle
And its not quite maxed yet either
Krakens
i was thinking on getting it next
cant find and "didnt look" arnt the same thing xD
Its a little on the pricy side too to max out
and i didnt find it on IE
....
Wiki => Stamps => CTRL+F "Drop Rate" and it's right there
might have been added since i looked then, im not sure
i did however try and could not find info on any of the new ones
idk was updated more than a month ago
@dapper prism I tested out card drop snapshotting/no snapshotting with 2 hr candies.... my best results were without cards equipped and not snapshotted 😢 . Sooooo the science needs more tests
dont believe you can snapshot for candy
i might be wrong
No you definitely did something wrong if you got the best results without cards lol
You can snapshot
can you snapshot for candy use?
Well it was only 2 hrs and the card drop wasn't a large quantity. I think a 24 hr would be a better test but i aint doin that lol
Yes, as long as you dont leave/change maps etc.
ah alright good to know
I used the snapshot to candy my alien logs to 5*. It makes a very big difference
You don't need longer candies.. candy/afk time is static for cards gained. E.g. if you get 100 cards for a 1h candy, you always get 100 cards for a 1h candy, it wont be 95-105 kinda thing afaik.
So then you would snapshot it and compare the new stuff
thanks, i will 100% use that next time
Obviously if your card rate is 1 card for a 1h candy it would be hard to test though 
oh... i get like 1 card per hr. So yea my 'n' is a very low # and hard to test
yea
that
lol
If you get 1 card per hour, then you have other problems xD
Yeah that doesnt mean it doesnt work that means you went from like 1 to 1.2 but .2 cards isnt a thing lol
Also remember there may be rounding, so you cant compare 2x 1h candy and then a 2h candy.
like only just getting to w5 3 days ago and w4 the week before that? >.<
What should I use time candys for
anything that isnt worth your time doing active
might end up candying mman's gmush kills -.-
zow/chow/superchow, DN kills etc. are all good to rush through
Thx
I have barely spent candies 3:
same
same. i get to the end of every FF game with 1000 phoenix down unused. Im trying to start avoiding that with candies...
I just throw candies at anything that seems annoying. Didn't have passive catching cards yet, 20 candies later now I do
that was Ash's mentality with his pikachu
I've used probably 100-200 1hr candies, and a few of the next tiered.
I rushed w4 with my alts when their kills/hr were pretty decent. but thats about it
I accidentally sold my 12 hrs candy
o.o why u hoarding that event invite
Help
Idk which character has that quest active
I need to dig around, somehow it got in there
Had like 20
- Use IE to check.
- You keep the invite even after quest is over - but you dont need to keep it
IE?
ooooh buddddydyddydyddy
I think you can just get more from the guy, pretty sure I've thrown them out before
Oh that,
Yea I could. The thing popped up yesterday when I was rushing quests on a few people
The 1 thing I'm definitely lacking on my account progress is quests....
Oooh based on candies I thought you had been hoardingf it for months lol
I didn't get the w1 trophy until like... w4. And I did it on 1 char :P
🤷♂️ Im in w5 now and still no trophy. Haven't had time to farm the drops
trophies are tedious
I still don't have w1 trophy either
Just noticed I've got all the bubbles but the last one for Green in Alchemy. Is that when you move em over to liquid?
Do plunderous kills come from coins dropped or total mobs killd when coin ability is up?
Leave one char to every cauldron until you max all the cauldron upgrades
I think it's only the big enemies, but not 100% sure
what is max upgrade level anyway?
I think I have? Haven't been able to upgrade any for a while now
170
Almost done with speed for orange cauldron at least 💀
😄
170 for what? Because the upgrades are 150/125/100 for the 3 upgrades and still can't go higher
next step, some beans for the power statues on my alts
Cauldron upgrades. Or whatever they're called . Boosts. ?
Beans until W6 🗿
Ohhh gotcha, true
Do bubbles have max levels or is it just limited by your mats/fluids
#1084911530417606656 Has a sheet for % effy on them
No max levels, but most of the bubbles have a limit due to diminishing returns
I guess one day we might get to a single level of a bubble costing more liquid than you currently have 
As it's different for different bubbles, some are linear, some scale drastically to like 99% efficiency and won't have a purpose from diminishing returns and it all comes down to some balance
Might start to worry around 200k
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
Well coulda been obol fragments too 🧐
Pretty much sure I'd have preferred that.
Yeh tbh I would've too. Hate getting rid of rare stuff that doesn't stack
I just kinda hoped already gotten ones would be removed from the pool.
What is considered end game? I feel like the closer I get, the further I feel from actually being endgame lol
is lava dead?
ded
: (
same
hes probably learning how to code the next part of the game
Wishful thinking
I mean, its been just shy of a month since Onyx. Idk if i'd say that is "awhile" lol.
god its been that long already?
hes doing fine, I just like to jump on the bandwagon of ragging on him
Yeah, had to double check the date on the update section lol
was like wtf already lol
I should focus a bit on Onyx but rn just saving the statues till I do
Doing a big skill reset before i sample is there a pin somewhere with skills that dont stack
i know the sailing elite skills dont but i dont know about the gaming and divinity ones
Huh
Wut?
There are no other skills like those from gaming, div, sailing etc.. which would all be irrelevant for sampling anyways
Main thing to make sure is maxing Effy on vman
bitty litty doesnt stack if you ahve it onmultiple characters right
the reset is for efficiency but i dont wanna waste points on stuff like bitty litte 100 hours played and the divinity god rank one
if i dont have to
Pretty much none of the elite stuff.
The above mentioned things, Gaming, div, sailing, printer output, sb drop rate etc.
You max all these usually on your 2nd dk, es, sb that are stuck in lab
Only thing that does work is undying passion since it's nothing about worldwide stuff. its a trigger on the dk itself
trickzbunny why always active
The question is, why not 🤔
do i need to say why not?
cause he's a great homie why else
maybe he had better things to do than be on discord all day playing an idleon game idk
is it possible to hit 150 on pirate flag if your vman upgraded it already>
I don't really us Prayers much. Does Deathnote work for afk or is it an Active one?
a good vman forgot his life for this achievement
Is there really no way to reset an item like a pickaxe?
Just made a dreadlo pickaxe and got 1 out of 5 upgrades with the kruck upgrade stones
Now it's worse than my last pickaxe
Darn, also there's another pickaxe after dreadlo?
I'm talking about the red one to clarify
Godshard will probably be next pickaxe released, pretty sure that's the next ore
Oh, alright, so it's not out yet, I'll just wait ig
The dreadlo pickaxe was pretty cheap, so hopefully it's the same with the next
is there an inventory slot cap? I've gotten all the bags and it dont add up
yes, there is a limit of slots in our inventory, if you got all this last page ur are done
yeah that's where i was at before i used the last +3 bag. Just making sure
Is this alright for max level alchemy before going higher on the production?
omniphau matches afk gains minute for minute, right? because it seems to round up to the hour text wise
correct
If your max level in alch is 59 i seems you probably won't have all bubbles and for that, you shouldnt be touching sigils at all until you get all bubbles
Ohhhh , Then bubbles? Its because I have on the bubbles like 7% of success at the most with my bubo, So I was not getting anywhere with that percentage, thought a sigil would help, or how to increase the lab lines, as well, I am not even at half of the bonus
That's completely normal, you should be doing your daily CC's on bubo, bubbles come ezpz after a while, especially once you have Talent 200+ for tente
Have you done divinity? what god?
one does divinity then lab with goat. you get enough lab levels plus cooking meals will get you through full lab pretty quickly
Could you please describe what CC means? , All my talents are at most 120
I am trying to unlock elephant right now
Cranium Cooking
7% is pretty good lol. The latter bubbles are like 0.3%
😄
That's with maxed boosts, but that's also for the W6 bubbles atm. Either way, work on your CC
I currently have them like this, because I am trying to get void , so my Bb can do W5, and my push is the ES at the very beginning, everyone else is on the lab for now
guys, beside the DK, whats a good class to farm the "loot 100k statues" quest?
Both DK's, both ES, Both SB, then Vman/BB/BM
yeah, i kinda messed up tough, cause i got 2 BB instead of 2 DKs
The 100k quest isnt too bad, you just get them on the worst classes through mining highest ore with 100% effy (dreadlo) which should easily get you 1k+ statues/h
not sure if its worth rerolling at this point tough
ohhh, realy?
thats a great strat
thanksss
just tried a candy, got 100 statues lol
Yeh then you just havnt setup your stuff..
am i the only one that fills out the entire fenceyard with the 1 shiny that i am working at the moment?
I do 3x 9s
Because thats ~6-7 days (might be 5 days?)
Either way, its a nice enough time to not think about it but also get the benefits fast enough to rotate in new stuff
Are you done with your bubbles now though and that is just how it is currently?
Once you have all 25 bubbles (w1-5) you're done, but you can still pre-unlock the not yet existing new bubbles for W6-8.
pre-unlock? 😮 cause i just got my last bubble of them all earlier
Once you get fury from sailing, for 200+ talents then alchemy gets very very easy... like i get 100h+ skips every sub-15 minutes.
You can still click and unlock them for once they are released, don't do this until way later when your cc is actually worth something
Oh, you just mean stocking up. Thought you meant like actually unlocking but not active
No
You can click the button and unlock them ahead of time, someone has listed the % or cost previously that shows which bubble you would be on
what is max talent lvl for checkout? I'm at 240 right now.
245, you may be missing 1k achievement
ah probably. thanks
What stuff could you set up to increase statue drop? Drop rate, afk gain, and skill speed after 100% eff?
Ohh, interesting. At least current stuff is done then .-.
Pretty much, especially skill speed if you arnt at 62. if you're getting 100 statues that sounds like really low skill speed and/or afk gain
When skilling for status, does the drop rate prayer help that increases hp?
If DR works then the prayer that gives DR would work.
Suppose I was just verifying drop rate affects rare skill drops
Thanks for all the help 🙏
2 more to go!
is there any up to date speed run guides for vman?
Afaik just #1084911530417606656 stuff, not like much would have changed since the release though
guide sheet has the setups for pets:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
@dapper prism my game crashed on lvl 130 Dx
resetting skills on all 10 characters takes waaaaaaaaaaay too long ffs
single skill reset option when
At least once you get enough skill points it gets easy xD
Inb4 smacking that by accident and having to redo them all when you only meant to redo one
Still need the presets to manage my star talents despite maxing everything else 
im nowhere near max now with the extra levels in the basic stat skills from vman talents
soontm
fractal good 4th choice or should i just get rando or crystal? heard crystal is good to powerlvl vman but otherwise im thinking rando might be okish
when you buy the skelefish on trash island is it a % chance to get it? I bought it but dont see it anywhere, no inventory or storage unless i missing it...
It pops out of the trash fish and drops on the ground and you pick it up
so if you left before picking it up it is gone forever
I was worried it was the same for the new bribes... didnt make sense bribes would be a drop but I had to relog. it had me sweating 
dropped bribes are more subtle than passing them hand to hand
Yo how can I get the odd damage quest done quick
tower defense
yes
5 hours, 600 power statues. i hate not havingt choco chip
shame. do you have choco chip ready for when it comes into rotation?
yeah, just waiting at this point
how to farm construction statue? ES at the sneks?
uh, i think so? im not 100% on the w3 statues, i just know theyre off ES yeah
I get 130-150 per day

I’m just progressing and forgetting about it until I get it. Week 4 of not getting it from shop
good luck, i cant afford to gamble, to many things that still need gets and im... mostly f2p, bought one pack lol
I only have 3 of them
Choco chip is definately a must for statue farming, im getting like 3k powers an hour at beans.
one on my main dk, one on my main ES and one on my vmmmmannnn
I think I get most of the gems f2p
I hate you.
is it worth spending the 1b logs/copper to upgrade stats?
I’m not that far but I’d think so
not really.
the stats are total.
depends on how much you're printing
just let the logs and copper get you atoms
it's 10m per atom right? so 1b = 100 atoms?
the atom bonuses are worth more so get those first
right I was just thinking that it might be worth just tossing 1b of each into the stats after finishing the daily 50 atom upgrades
if you're printing more than 1b hourly then its good to click bubbles
that makes a lot of sense
Damn thats 6b each log
if you're at that point yee.
even more with dk and eldrich artifacts
Mine only 1.8b perlog
Yeah i mean the base
clicking the bubbles only means you're losing out on 200 atoms right? or are there other factors that make atoms more efficient than pure mats

still missing 4% here
missing some easy ones
Can the miniboss eggs summon the purple mush miniboss, and if so does it count towards W4 royal worm quest?
I just need cooking
yes and no
and breeding
how many balloons would it take to get 750 total cooking? 💀
not excited to balloon cooking
idk how to optimise that even
At last there is something that i had higher than you
but I have a few thousand at least
Although u only need just a bit of candies to fill that lvl
50-75 cooking is going to be rough
Why not get 100+ on your BB
cooking exp is like 0 per hour
I've gotten only a couple levels on my BB after having him permacooking with max superchow
you dont get much exp from cooking
finally sat down long enough to farm out everyones anvil points, now i actually have to go buy them -_-
so many resources
what are some of the best pets to have for the spice fights? I've been stuck on one for awhile
check the pets section, it's pretty much 100%
can confirm. this got me to finish pets finally
me as well
i beat the final area before i actually had the pet power to farm out the spice afterwords
may have put this off to long
enjoy your 700 free points
yeah, ive doubled like all of their smithing production speeds
That moment when you have so many lucky lads that you just splice them lol
yeah.....no
though i did get my first active one today
is there any real reason to hoard colleseum tickets or is it just bonus boss keys/eggs
for later w3/4 colo farming once you got high enough DR
is there no way to get this guy to also get that one?
I put many mainframe boosts on but it doesnt work
You cannot, you need more connection range
Which is impossible to get
That's just not accurate
at what lvl does poisonic elder become better than a boulder roller? Assuming lvl 30 boulder roller
Nope, cannot have 1 char getting all the nodes they're asking about
what would the optimal lab set up look like?
oh, wouldn't that be connection amount?
its just barely out of range 😭
Literally what I said, that you said was not accurate
????? that says range?
Enable top left purple when you're using ladles. Don't need it on the rest of the time
what about the damage boost orange 
It's a small bonus, not missed
reforge stones?
Upgrade stones
upgrade stones mb
my bad, I didn't realize connection range was limited beyond stuff that specifically notes a limit
oh. I have some gear I'd love to 'reforge' so to speak 
just tried to link a guy from further away with triple the width and uhhh yeah no dice
the true optimal setup would be get doot for all 10 characters in lab to hit everything without issue haha
imagine if he actually release a reforge stone to clear your used upgrade stones slots
truth. lemme get doot first...

im on my 4th week of bean
if you don't have choccy chip skip bean for ES on carrots or something
sorry, bean the companion, ive avoided beans for statues so far
sorry I'm dumb, just found out I could set it so skills are used on auto today
is this 6x sigil effect?
BB - fish
DK - ores
all mages - logs
all rangers - catching
vman - mob drops (during speedrun)
4x i think
so the smart people said this is 4
ah ok thanks, I was wondering if it was some wordplay involved 😂
because lava code says its an extra 100% at each point
Lava math messing with my spreadsheets yet again
How to decide where to send captains to, the farthest 2 hour location, where sailing based artifacts are?
during speedrun... smart 
so I kill all bosses first for speedrun?
Get next artifact i guess
Or if 2hrs
up to you really, the recommendation is 2 hours because its the minimum time, but if you feel the chance at the artifact is worth a 4 hour or 8 hour trip by all means
I was doing 20 hour trips lol
...
i like to get as far as I can, kill all bosses, but leave enough time to spare so I can backtrack and sample the things I need
is sample best done in speed runs?
it's like a 50x modifier or something
extra multikill and respawn
yes, with the multi kill ability running
oh makes sense
ive only done like 4 speed runs
i hate doing things that take time on this game
never do dungeon >.>
I have too many passes... recently did a few hours on the weekend to get the cards
felt gross
once you unlock a pet is there any point in upgrading its genetic multi? does this boost the max possible rating i can get on a hatch?
extra shiny chance
achievements
how can you boost the ods of a high roll pet?
better eggs = higher level cap
I just said goodbye to my gf for the next 7 days 😦
thanks
same but my gf is carrots dropping power statues
then you'll have time to do vman speedruns and dungeon
i really need to go redo my speedrun, i forgot to sample at all last time
my vmans samples are amazing
oh god do a speed run right now please
im amazed you made it to the end of W3 lol
these are from like a year ago tbh
though i guess you dont have to go in order do you
i need to go grab the ones for vials so i can knock those out
when I just did random stuff
lmao the void ore
i reset mine like.. once a week so i dont get to attached lol
not intentionally either, ill just click sample while im working on something else
If I... take the time to optimize all my samples it would be well worth it... but...
that's the catch. time and effort
Is there at least a simple sample guide?
i dont have the keychains and doublers and stuff like that to worry about. and with inf star signs dnt have to stress that either
so i just try to make sure i have boost food and skill cards and go from there lol
but star signs can be doubled
oh. right. pain 
I got doot two weeks ago! It was awesome so keep it up itll happen(for free)
It isnt like sample check list is hard anymore, chips normal setup, cards double ctroll and amarok, max afk gear, rex rings, boost food, obols if you got em
So close, anything else I might of forgotten?
Not worth the extra time for snapshotting hp/mp
try going to the very left side of the map (left of the portal and down the rope) and camping a tiny platform
wait gods and thanks
idk if this is where you meant but its really effective. I also switched to Nobisect god for damage +144%
Little stumped atm, Just unsure of which world to crystal farm in >.>
those ones you dont crystal, they are standard mob drops so you ES
Yeah im doing that.
I meant the even smaller one to the right, but looks like you got it 
Sitting on staches
and other people doing AFK at wood mushies to finish out the 1B kills on it
oh that one I thought it could be that one but didn't know if Floor is lava would hit them then. ty again
it's more useful to have the zap attack hit all of them at once
(also max that if you haven't)
what should the ability preset be?
I did it with this at 150b damage
maxed chainbolt, all other skills around ~200 ish
lightning barrage is the most important though
for farming statues?
I forgot what kill per kill does, I'm assuming it just gets more kills but no loot for those so good for deathnote or portals
tasty resample day
very nice
True pain (I got it the attempt after this but still)
i had the same
My damage was around 310B
drop or damage cape for ES statues?
Yeah it's that, I had him statue farming in W3
you use midas for statues?
you shouldnt use midas on es
drop if it's w1-3 for those rare ones
for the saw
yeah definitely drop th en
neat
does anyone have a similar spreadsheet to the alchemy one where I can input a % to target for all of the stamps?
stamps don't have a max
they scale linearly?
yes
ah ok thanks




