lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[iron citrus]

Oooo for liie Monster drops,

[hidden sphinx]

You also wanna kill as many bosses as possible before you sample as they give more MK during a speed run if you have points in the talent

[pure ferry]

do you guys have the line up for buying islands?

[iron citrus]

Think I got to like 37 portals atm

[hidden sphinx]

Yeah vman was always bad a samples, but now with speedrun samples he’s best choice for non-active green stacks or finishing vials. For mob drops only ofc

[hidden sphinx]

Get trash and shimmer first

If you’re going for fishing levels at some point soon then get sea salt cause it’s a huge xp boost

[pure ferry]

Thanks

[hidden sphinx]

And then after that you can kinda do whatever you want, I’m just going more expensive to least but I haven’t checked if price difference between islands is linear or scales depending on how many islands you’ve bought

[hidden sphinx]

There’s a Reddit post (link in pins iirc) with the most universally efficient way to do vman speed runs to get highest portal count. I’d say do that first then go for sampling run tomorrow

[iron citrus]

Thanks

[coral goblet]

how much should i level it?

[eager sedge]

Yes

[hot dove]

My exp for cooking sucks, is there anything that can up it? Or is this just a common thing?

[pearl cedar]

Skilled dimwit

But also common

[hot dove]

Ok, yeah, thanks

[tacit tulip]

max it

[granite condor]

Best P.O. Boxes for ES? Mana then Drop Rate?

[tepid obsidian]

🪓

[tacit tulip]

^chopping first for the samples, get the others with the rest+more as you get pens

[old coyote]

can someone explain how colo passes work? do i need to go to each colo to pick them up each day?

[mild merlin]

Yeah you talk to the guard outside the collo,you can also get it from EZ access if you have it unlocked

[old coyote]

but i need to go to each individually?

[true obsidian]

this is the easiest one i ever seen

[uncut hull]

game bugged, 2 portals active at once

[teal lynx]

Codex > Quick Ref > EZ Access bottom left > Colo Tickets Top Left
It gives you all colo tickets (saves up to 3 days iirc)

[bitter nacelle]

Heya, I've been grinding for the w5 vman gloves for like a month, I have a do getting 550k kph with x9.8 drop chance, is it better to leave him active there or should I wait and collect afk gains for the guaranteed drop? Also how long would i need to afk for it?

[golden cipher]

I farmed them offline

[tacit tulip]

guaranteed drop is incredibly hard for gloves, not really worth doing.

The only good metric I've found for gloves is to compare it to your royal urn rate. Urns are 1000x more likely to drop than gloves, so on average you'll get 1000 by the time you get the recipe.

It took me 800m/5k urns to get the recipe, I was that unlucky 😄

[bitter nacelle]

I'm at 267m kills and over 10k urns tho?

What am I doing lol

[tacit tulip]

10k royal urns? Ouch. Never seen anyone get that high

my higher kill count will just mean I was multikilling more

[bitter nacelle]

Probably due to minmaxing my drop chance rather then multikill?

IDK if that's even efficient

[tacit tulip]

I did mine with 16 DR so just means I had way more MK

[mild merlin]

Oh no I bought a boat slot instead of captain slot but now I see captains available and there's a +6%/+11% loot value sailor 😭

[bitter nacelle]

Oof

Yeah I decided to pull the dk off slugs today, I'm getting him all the gear needed to be maxed, currently grabbing ice ages to upgrade his splicer

[tacit tulip]

for what it's worth, w5 (And kattle) gloves are a tiny part of vman damage overall

nice to have for the range/attack speed, but negligible long run

[bitter nacelle]

My vman just kinda sucks hard and I want to speed run better

Anything I can do for damage I want to do

[tacit tulip]

that's fair

[somber lance]

fast question guys. i just unlocked 2nd god and all characters are linked to both. not just ES. is that normal? also my polytheism rank is 0 and i do remember placing some points there

[untold saffron]

do you have a doot

[somber lance]

nope

[lavish grotto]

Does the minor link bonus stack with multiple characters epic

[lavish grotto]

Are all of them present in lab while you have +30% afk gains?

[paper sail]

That's one of the many parts of what makes Doot so broken.. With decent div levels, that's 45%-ish AFK from the minor bonus

[somber lance]

both have unlink button

[lavish grotto]

That’s normal even if ur linked to just one chara

[paper sail]

All gods show the Unlink button. Click it just once to see what they are actually linked to on the next screen.

[lavish grotto]

That’s like if vitality the divinity stance gave exp to all characters

[paper sail]

like such

[fallow aurora]

what chars should I keep in lab forever? I just unlocked goat god

[paper sail]

Prime candidates are the 3 duplicates (characters 8, 9, 10) + Beast Master. Bubo generally likes being on Bear to make 5. Then you pick from there.

A common strat is ES on Harriep + Omni (if in the lab) or Harriep + Bear (if out farming) using Polytheism

[somber lance]

where can i find that window? im quite fresh to w5

[lavish grotto]

Oh, so characters connected to goat god count as offline in lab

[paper sail]

Click on the unlink button next to a god

[somber lance]

thx. thats not too intuitional

[fallow aurora]

I don't have omni unlocked yet, and I only use 1 ES actively and i'm assuming the other ES is useless other than prints?

[lavish grotto]

I’m glad after my journey of Idleon I can finally see how strong doot is for myself

That was maybe a bit too positive

[paper sail]

I didn't change my 2nd Bubo to an ES because I'm gonna roll Doot any day now 🤞

[slow folio]

Anyone ever had negative skill exp?

My trapping is sitting at -14billion exp to next level...

[bold quiver]

O.O

[crude sedge]

Hi there. Who's best at farming troll keys, DK or ES? Thanks

[sick sentinel]

Es

[solid epoch]

ES

[vital crypt]

Can candies be used in world 5?I keep trying but it says its too hot

[solid epoch]

no

when w6 is out u will be able to

[vital crypt]

Oo ok

Thx

[misty spindle]

Do we know when w6 is coming?

[solid epoch]

yeah like tomorrow maybe

[misty spindle]

letsgo

[lost topaz]

If I only need boat statues I'm better off moving to moles from wurms right?

[somber lance]

ok im confused. what do i do after unlocking 2nd god? do i just link both es to it and take everyone else to lab again?

[paper sail]

Probably not, no. You're getting the majority of statue drops from Crystal enemies on DK, and Moles is a shitty layout for DK.

[solid epoch]

id always farm at wurms for ur w5 statues since u get good keys/hr too

[lost topaz]

that makes sense. tyty!

[lost topaz]

wait, but moles have them in their drop table. Hmmm

still probably not a good enough drop rate to justify doing on moles compared to crystal difference though, to your point

[solid epoch]

• u would be getting less keys too

[paper sail]

On a crystal enemy, the drop chance is 1 in 333. On a Mole, it is 1 in 19,000 lmao

Trust me when I say that the base mob ain't drop shit for you. It is all the crystal.

[sour oasis]

Something tells me 140 box statues an hour on active ES is too low...should i put it on the backburner and focus on something else?

[lost topaz]

It took me 3 full days active to complete with 16.5x dr and about 100b damage

[fallow aurora]

connection range= node connection range and line width=player connection range right?

[lost topaz]

yes width to players connection range to nodes

[fallow aurora]

each lab level increases both?

[lost topaz]

No only width. Very limited sources of connection range. PRimarily merit and jewel if I recall.

[fallow aurora]

ty

[lost topaz]

yea from idleinsight

[torn thorn]

Finishin the darn vials is a struggle.. :/ mobs about to be done.. Then its onto worshipping/trapping

[lavish grotto]

Is this optimal for pushing or should swap the jam and grilled nomwiches for something else

[untold saffron]

is idle skiller or king of food better for worship claims?

[solid epoch]

speed pots are really useful

even if ur not gaining much dmg from equipping the speed pots, just the movespeed bonus should improve kills/hr

[scenic ledge]

at 19 i would switch out the grilled till u get a higher stack

[rotund smelt]

Exp pots are w/e imo

[solid epoch]

id think KoF would prob be better. i dont have it to check but food effect would give big souls

[scenic ledge]

as u push into w5 youll get more and more grilled anyways

[untold saffron]

big agree, unless you're specifically farming tremor's

[rotund smelt]

Not pushing at that point are you

[untold saffron]

you mean you're not ready for the 1billion tremor kill portal? 🤨

[rotund smelt]

The real entrance to w6

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/l61D3Cf.png

workin towards 10B kills lol

[paper sail]

Even then.. It's +0.25x class exp. Who even cares? They don't scale with Food Effect so are total crap.

[old coyote]

im at the start of w5 and ran out of money upgrading stamps, is the only real way to get more to just push through w5?

[paper sail]

Stronger enemies always give more money, but you can farm Moltis or Citringes pretty well for cash with Bubo

[tacit tulip]

at the start of w5 they likely don't hjave quick access to moltis

though, at the start of w5 if you're capping out your stamps via money that's a pretty good sign they're doing the right sorta things

[paper sail]

Eh, well, back to W4 floms / cans then. I misread "start" as "heart" and thought they were halfway through lol

[tacit tulip]

or they really like w5

[paper sail]

🥵 omg w5 hi

[old coyote]

😳

[tacit tulip]

@old coyote if you haven't, plopping a character you're not using (usually SB) on Gmush will help scale your money up while you work on progressing

due to the lab bonus

[old coyote]

that is something i had never seen

huh

[pearl cedar]

Come join us

[lost depot]

W3 statues are hella slow

Yes prob best to resort to candy

Is there a best class to candy statues? Or all the same

[modern plaza]

hgihest DR and base kills

[lost depot]

That should be SB right

[pearl cedar]

It should be vman

[pearl cedar]

Highest dr and highest respawn

[paper sail]

Not at Beans 🤮

[misty spindle]

What should I do with my vman, i just unlocked him not sure what he specializes in

[paper sail]

Skill skill skill skill skill

[misty spindle]

what baseline am I looking for?

[paper sail]

Never stop.

He just skills the rest of his life

[misty spindle]

what about his prints, mob drops or skill drops?

[versed cypress]

vman should always be ahead of all your other skillers,

prints you want to do them when doing the speeedrun once you get points cause they can get some good extra multikill so you can get some very high mob material prints

[paper sail]

Mob drops sampled within a Voidrun with the fancy multikill buff up

[misty spindle]

makes sense yeah

[pearl cedar]

It's the respawn that really gives you high samples

[misty spindle]

you mean the reduced respawn times you get with boss kills?

[deft hazel]

Where can I find the order in which I should unlock the world 2 islands?

I remember seeing one but can't find it anymore

[misty spindle]

look up griffybit on youtube

[pearl cedar]

The mk helps for sure, but do a sample on spores before killing a boss and one after killing w1-3 boss

[deft hazel]

Oh that might have been it

[paper sail]

Trash > Seasalt > Shimmer, then Rando / Crystal / Fractal all kinda meh

[misty spindle]

sorry what is mk and why not sample just at the end

[deft hazel]

Yeah but i get to pick my 4th now and remember something about the bribes or something

[pearl cedar]

Multikill, just to point out that respawn is what is giving the massive samples not purely the MK buff

[paper sail]

The Bribes from Trash make Random events give Trash, so Rando 4th 👍

[deft hazel]

Ahh that's it, thank u

[jolly ginkgo]

How does fractal work? I have been afking in world 5 town doing nothing for 24 h on 4 chars but didn't get a popup with exp for nothing

[pearl cedar]

Rando gives 1-8 trash, you get 1 rando from island a week for an average of 4 trash. It is not worth to get it 4th

[paper sail]

Crystal just gives candy..

[versed cypress]

based on cost fractal goes up in cost the most so its better to get it as the 4th, rando and crystal islands are just completition sake but they dont give anything amazing

fractal has some bonuses for spending afk time there but unless you have a super huge surpluss of candy its also not really somethign you will dedicate time in th ebegining

[tacit tulip]

pretty sure it's a flat cost increase each island

[fast verge]

should I collect before more t5s, or not?
its been really confusing after chemical since i dont know when or if I should use it

[versed cypress]

i fyou dont mind not progressing gaming for a while you can dedicate to t5

[fast verge]

mk

[pearl cedar]

Yeah but you're gonna get an extra what 4 trash a week on top of the 100+ you're getting from trash island and 7 random events a week. Measily bonus. Especially when the nametag is the biggest time sink there and it is basically worthless

[fast verge]

for log book or

[versed cypress]

t5 and onwards is mostly for the log book, its very hard to consistently get them to get to that tier on their own

[fast verge]

k

[paper sail]

The point being that Rando, Crystal, and Fractal all kinda suck. Probably doesn't matter what you do.

[pearl cedar]

That's true, but of the 3 that suck Id rather go with the one that gives me free candy

[grizzled elk]

What are the highest nugs floating around nowadays?

[pearl cedar]

Like 400k+

[grizzled elk]

Finally hit a big one but I must have been ignoring it clicking away on other gaming shit, so I didn't even get the dopamine hit of seeing the roll

@pearl cedar well I'm half way there, better than the 65k I've had forever

[drifting breach]

is it rare to get a double scarf drop from chizor

[versed cypress]

rare yes not unheard of but rare

[drifting breach]

sick

any tips for unlocki ng new plants

i have been saving for a 10% chacne for next plant after voraci for 2 months and havent gotten any luck yet

[indigo grove]

today i did actually sensible progress instead of being madman but probably still madman: all of my characters except my world pusher, my lab+divinity guy are pushing fishing towards the w2 last fishing area and i leveled few levels of cabbages and switched them to the... corn dogs? or whatever it was before cabbage. but i dunno where to throw my voidwalker dude since it already has w2 last fishing area unlocked...

[pearl cedar]

Dont go that high

[drifting breach]

5%?

[misty spindle]

try .3

[pearl cedar]

Usually 1 full harvest is plenty

[drifting breach]

like for a chacne

can yall not troll please

[pearl cedar]

We aren't

[drifting breach]

like how much should i actually be saving to before next try

[misty spindle]

dude just do 0.3 trust me

Im almost at the last one doing that

[drifting breach]

cap

[pure crown]

Doing 1000 1% chances is so much faster than 1 50% chance.

[pearl cedar]

Say you save for 2 months for a 10% try. Or you could have tried 500 times at .3% you do the math

Diminishing returns on plant evo evo chance the more you do

[drifting breach]

oh fr

[versed cypress]

also isnt chem max chance like 0.7% with like 10k genes??

[drifting breach]

im at blossom and evry day i do 1 10%

i trust you guys praying yall arent lying

[pearl cedar]

Trust that's how we all did it

[versed cypress]

in the end th emore attempts the better

[drifting breach]

thank you 8guys

[pearl cedar]

For blossom and bush probably want .5-1% christmas tree and chem .1-.3%. Been awhile though so don't remember best numbers

[drifting breach]

thank you guys

i been doing 10% for so long

[sacred nexus]

pffft... im still at 13k

[versed cypress]

chem you want 0.3% pine tree i think can easily get like 0.5 or more with just 50 genes

[drifting breach]

im at ,9972k

[sacred nexus]

Lemme see

[drifting breach]

ok

wiat no

9972

no k

[placid mural]

i know its but im still proud of hitting this landmark

[fallow aurora]

50 times higher than mine

[old portal]

i only need to farm all the statues to 20k once right for my vman? then the buff is shared across all chars right?

[wind umbra]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[old portal]

aight thanks how about why people doing it all on all chars with the kapow statue? whats the quests to get alot of kapow statues

[old coyote]

when am i supposed to bubble vs boost in alchemy?

[old portal]

ow wait... getting onyx feasty gave me 25% increase damage not bad i guess

[dapper prism]

Honestly its just a bit of a balance, best to check your IE to see what the next bubbles are and how beneficial they are. Once you start doing proper Bubo CC's it all gets easy

[old portal]

do i need to manually farm statues for this quests?

how to do it then

[dapper prism]

No, just get them on that alt, also afk

Just get statues as a drop, in any way, even skilling, online or offline, all works

[muted egret]

Wait until find out what the next quest of this npc is

[old portal]

hmm so it will still take time on doing on all chars? or is there a trick for it?

[muted egret]

It will take some time 100%

[old portal]

iam down to spend candies idk if worth

[dapper prism]

DK ES and Bubo are all very easy.
Vman, BB, BM without respawn mechanics are annoying, just candy highest mining ore (Dreadlo) that you have at 100%, you should get 1k+ statues/h easily

[old portal]

hmmm so getting kapow onyx is fairly easy just need to do on 2 chars?

[misty spindle]

Is it a smart idea to CC in a coloseum?

[stable kayak]

Does the gifts work for something else ( besides the jewel ) or am I saving this for nothing?

[dapper prism]

Well for onyx yeh, but you still want to do it on alts and slow deposit since its pretty much the only proper source of kachows

[old portal]

just gems yeah

[misty spindle]

but coloseum gave me the best CC ever

[old portal]

aight thanks ill get kachow onyx ASAP for massive boosts and try to get all onyx

i just finished doing beans onyx what statues should i aim next

[dapper prism]

order doesn't really matter, see pin for statue+location.
Best to also hoard all statues (don't deposit, you can unlock onyx though) until you have all onyx, then deposit stuff.

[old portal]

yeah this is what iam doing rn so trying to find all statues possible

is it normal that w4 statues are pretty slow to get as DK on floms?

[stable kayak]

Where Can I check the timer for the jewel that needs the guild giftbox?

[dapper prism]

Could always just Ctrl+F it:
https://i.imgur.com/iitBIMJ.png

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ohtWMLT4NzBuVyqcXoEvkCMPXuYGWrRWUAmBOTdZCrQ/edit#gid=1945859978

[stable kayak]

Just like "Jewel" Thanks

[dapper prism]

Also dont worry, next one is on March 20th, 2024 xD

Jewel is one of those things you can slowly gem over time, cause rip that way

[dense prism]

is ES or DK better to farm black lenses ?

[dapper prism]

ES, as usual, main drop = ES, rare drop (inside pouch) or from crystals = DK

[dense prism]

ahh ok ty

[stable kayak]

._. Got it ... more than 1 weekly? or how often should I gem it ?

[misty spindle]

lava can just fuck off honestly, why does CC reset if you leave the map ffs

[drifting pilot]

hi yall, is the devine scarf the neck "strung tooth of the divine" ?

[old portal]

gem lab chips if you have spare since almost all lab chips are really usefull

[dapper prism]

once u upgrade it

[uncut hull]

any way to improve ES game performance?

[vagrant mountain]

[dapper prism]

Get better phone/pc? xD

[uncut hull]

: (

[hot dove]

Can you green stack the gifts?

[dapper prism]

If you will live to become 500 years old maybe

[hot dove]

Nice, welp time to grind

[old portal]

iam not even on my 3 digit gifts

best card setups for farming MK with SB? i dont have ntroll at high level yet

and which cards to double? currently using those 2 cards for doubling

[dapper prism]

I usually just use this:
https://i.imgur.com/8z532AM.png

But it's situational

The further you are in the game, the less relevant suggma and snelbie are. the earlier u are the more impactful they are.

[old portal]

aight thanks

i need to start rubying some cards

did you use gems to ruby those cards?

[dapper prism]

u cardifie hard or time gated stuff

[old portal]

yeah idk which to cardify

also my gains atm

will get better equips maybe later after my chars push to mole

this a good start to start candying to 100m DN kills?

low afk gain rate since no one is at snake

[misty spindle]

I got blietzkrieg troll card from a pack after getting vman, do I 4star, the later 5star it?

[worn frost]

ye, massive damage

42% without doublers so very good

[dapper prism]

Although now with the new 100x Blitz troll quest im not sure how many cards you'd get from completing that

[old portal]

what is this?

[misty spindle]

So I wasnt extremly lucky as I thought?

[dapper prism]

Displaying forgs instead of gmush doesn't really help, you're basically displaying the highest kph map atm, so each super chow will just get worse and worse with kph

[misty spindle]

I also got second tier kattlecuck

[old portal]

well heres my gmush

[dapper prism]

W4 quest, not monolith but the other one, requires 100 Blitz troll kills.

https://i.imgur.com/dboMWLo.png

Still super hard timegate because of the amount of kills needed

[old portal]

is it the ammount of kills or keys

[dapper prism]

100 kills = 6000 keys

[old portal]

or youre talking about time to kill for keys

[dapper prism]

Yeh.. getting kills is slow/annoying

My point though is before you had little reason to do many blitz trolls, so to cardifie it was nice. Now since a quest requires you toi kill it 100+ times, idk how far/how many cards thisll end up giving but to cardifie may not be as "valueable" anymore compared to some other stuff

Either way some cards are very easy/require low amounts, see
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Cards

Like Chaotic chizoar is apparently 16

[misty spindle]

Im sooo far away from killing blietzkrieg even once tho

[wind umbra]

still think its worth rubying blitz

i was getting ~2 cards per run

[old portal]

aight i still wont be bothering with that since i cant get ruby cards yet without gemming i thought i can kill mobs fast enough on rift 41 with 57b dps on SB but apparently i still cant

[dapper prism]

If it's 2 cards/run then yeh, its worth it.

More important about cardifie is what cards actually help/give the most benefit.
Like chaotic troll (skill effy) => Samples => Everything in this game

[wind umbra]

ye for sure

dont think blitz is even that high on cardify list to begin with

[misty spindle]

So I dont 4 star blitz?

[sacred verge]

any point getting smeltin erryday booked to 245?

[old portal]

when farming for these statues and using candy which char should i use?

[wind umbra]

dmg aint that huge imo

[dapper prism]

read the note

[old portal]

still with ES?

[dapper prism]

The image with a note, purple color coded..

[wind umbra]

u can if u want but i wouldnt if you got other gem upgrades u can go for

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/qKGzja4.png

[misty spindle]

no idea which ones tho

[old portal]

aight thanks with your high stats you still get low statues with candy so maybe its a no candying them

[wind umbra]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

go to gems tab it will tell you the order of importance

think its relatively up to date

[dapper prism]

Oh nvm

[wind umbra]

oh i thought he wasnt sure which gem upgrade

[dapper prism]

Idk now if its about gem upgrade or cardifie rate

[misty spindle]

yeah you got me confused here

[dapper prism]

either way getting something like chaotic troll for effy is best

[misty spindle]

wouldnt that be easy to farm tho

[sacred verge]

does it matter how many points i got into smeltin erryday?

[old portal]

this possible to get now?

[misty spindle]

chaos kattleruck matter to 4 star?

[dapper prism]

oh actually not anymore when you have max 2min claims which are hit pretty qwuick

[sacred verge]

thanks, thats what i thought

[quartz urchin]

Is class xp shimmer worth while?

[dapper prism]

No, why would it?

[misty spindle]

idk man because I didnt even get to him and thought its rare

let alone fight chaos version

[dapper prism]

It's rng and you can see the rates on the wiki from the packs
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Smolderin_Card_Pack

Either way, it's a trashy card..

Active XP is the important one

+XP just sucks as it's additive

[dapper prism]

No clue if its additive or multi, but as most things i bet its additive and crap.
But even then, there's more benefiical stuff

[misty spindle]

damnit

[vagrant mountain]

what you guys think my statue will be after this deposit

[dapper prism]

depends if "All" or "slow" depo

[vagrant mountain]

gonna slow depo

[dapper prism]

That Power barely going to hit ~190-195ish?

[vagrant mountain]

hoping for 200 xd

[dapper prism]

Mining maybe lucky if it hits 225?

Although slow depo's can help a bunch*

[vagrant mountain]

dont forget it is x7 statue pts

[misty spindle]

whats the best place to farm cloudsound quest items?

[dapper prism]

Oh lol, true xD

I just remember that around 180-200 was the 100-200k /lvl range and soemwhere around 220s was 300k/lvl range?

[dapper prism]

Just get them while doing w1 crystals like dk bean crystal grind

[vagrant mountain]

well im 225 mining now with 3.2m statues left XD\

[dapper prism]

yeh, that's why i forgot the 1=7 xD

[feral hemlock]

You have 100% double statue value vial?

[vagrant mountain]

yea

[dapper prism]

Pretty sure mot people with 25 onyx would, else you're priorities are lacking xD

[feral hemlock]

Crap im still missing vials im currently at like 91% chance

[dapper prism]

You do vman void sample run to print mob vial stuff? easy max vials

[misty spindle]

Do wormhole mobs drop them too? Is it dependent on crystals or normal monsters?

[feral hemlock]

I tho that not onyx but vials(lv13 max) were responsible for the double chance

[feral hemlock]

Nah only on coconuts for agi dmg

Others trying to farm with es active lol

1b mob mats, although might be inefficient

[dapper prism]

but it's so easy on vman?

[feral hemlock]

Indeed i think im doing this the hard way......

[dapper prism]

wiki has drop sources. most mobs do, technically any worlds crystal would be the best/easiest

[dapper prism]

Do active stuff that you cant do inactive.
Easy to 3d print mob drops

[misty spindle]

So DK beans?

[dapper prism]

Just said dk beans because its typically beneficial, unless you need other statues or stuff.

Could do W2 if you need dice obol stuff, or whatever you need, idk what your needs are

[misty spindle]

👍

[vagrant mountain]

@dapper prism

operation beans hibernation was a success

[twin token]

U hibernated them permanently

[vagrant mountain]

around 10 days

[sacred verge]

its not enough before its a few stacks of each in inv

[vagrant mountain]

yeah my statues are still baby levels

lvl 350 is like 34m for one level

[obsidian nacelle]

so question about the onxy statue quest

[vagrant mountain]

so that hibernation would have gotten me barely a level

[sacred verge]

get all the 3 w3 statues to lvl 350 then

[obsidian nacelle]

do the 20k power statues for the quest get consumed, and if so, do they count as your first onxy when consumed

[pure ember]

Yes

[obsidian nacelle]

nice ty

[untold saffron]

how many oceanman did you guys get per hour with candy?

[sacred monolith]

In general candy is about 10% of active

[chrome tiger]

just got my doot.. loser status acquired

at least i only had to buy two mongo packs

[untold saffron]

gz

you're playing a new game now

[chrome tiger]

new game -

[untold saffron]

go start by resampling for big gains

[sacred verge]

i love the fact that its called mongo pack

it is a soo fitting name

[dapper prism]

big gains is a lil exaggerated

[untold saffron]

i dunno, i went +300mill oak after getting doot. Granted it had been awhile

[dapper prism]

I was sampling every 2 weeks and went from around:
10m, 20m, 40m, 80m, 200m. 2 weeks passed + DOOT gain and it went to 300m.

To me didnt feel huge as i was already getting big jumps every weeks 🤷

Honestly felt less than i expected i would get xD

[untold saffron]

a 50% increase seems significant enough to call it big gains

[sacred verge]

i guess it depends also if the person bothers changing gods etc for samples

[chrome tiger]

were you dumping upgrades into the sampling bubbles at the same time

[dapper prism]

You missed my point? I was doubling my sample every 2 weeks before that either way without doot?

[dapper prism]

Always

[untold saffron]

why is the sandstone colo so fucked on spawn times between waves

[dapper prism]

You got a +hp prayer on?

[untold saffron]

midas

[dapper prism]

Yeh

[serene kiln]

Where do you get oceanman statue from?

[dapper prism]

it affects w2 skilling node hp which is based on time

[dapper prism]

Check pins

[serene kiln]

Ah w2 catching

[dapper bridge]

Catching bugs

[serene kiln]

Does any bugs matter?

[dapper prism]

It does not matter

Best focus on cards you need/want

[sacred verge]

best do every w2 bug to 5*

[carmine breach]

When sampling on Vman should I use 10% respawn keychains or 4% afk gains keychains?

[dapper bridge]

Any bug will do the trick but try the ones that you haven't maxed the cards aswell

[sacred verge]

should be able to 5* more or less every w2 bug before 20k

[dapper prism]

Probably respawn will do more. But just bring both and compare? You should usually have more than enough time

[barren otter]

anyone have an anvil calc?

IE/toolbox both useless

[dapper prism]

What calc exactly?

[barren otter]

something to tell me how long till i cap out

the two sites arent accounting for anvil statue correctly*

[dapper prism]

Oh (nope)

[sacred verge]

is there a pin or anything for printing with vman?

[dapper prism]

#1084911530417606656

[sacred verge]

tyty

[muted egret]

those monolith quests aren't universal right?

[dapper bridge]

You usually just need to divide the cap from your speed till you get the automation arm to deposit automatically

[dapper prism]

Quest isnt, onyx is

The pin has that mentioned

[muted egret]

thanks

[sacred verge]

do you know what to search? i cant find a praticular one for sampling in speedruns. just the normal sample one

[barren otter]

yea thats what im trying to figure out, do you know the math for it?

[fossil urchin]

pretty sure you divide whatever your speed with the speed of whatever you're making - that'll be how much you produce in an hour. then you take your total cap/hourly = how many hours it takes to max the cap, or something

[dapper prism]

not sure, thought the comments discussed it but 🤷

[sacred verge]

maybe, i didnt read it all

[dapper bridge]

Cap divided per speed then divide again by the progress needed for the item you're making will tell you the time in hours

[dapper prism]

• divide by 3 due to doing it 3x?

[fossil urchin]

i'm not doing mine by 3x

so i didn't do that

but sure

[barren otter]

where does the cost of thread factor into that

oh you edited okay

gotcha

[dapper bridge]

You're right lol

[dapper prism]

Either works, /3 at the end (for time) or x3 for the cost

[dapper bridge]

But only if you're doing 3x

[dapper prism]

well yeh, not sure why you wouldn't personally.

Else all math gets fk'd up either way

[barren otter]

i figured out the math thanks guys and FYI IE is off by 65 hrs for time to cap

[dapper bridge]

I do 2x on thread for xp and the highest tier mat on the char

[dapper prism]

coldseeker for xp

and just do stuff for lvl 13 vials 😄

[barren otter]

its time to get a few luck bubble clicks in a few times a week...

[dapper bridge]

I will soon but currently working on skill mastery bc i unlocked it wednesday

[dapper prism]

Just craft buff food throughout, gets massive XP

[dapper bridge]

Will do but my smith is not that bad at the moment, my fishing/catching on the other hand💀

But without tab4 i'm softlocked for a while

[dapper prism]

For fish, do first zone whale quest (daily minigame) and/or balloon.

[dapper bridge]

I'm almost mining dreadlo and can't make lustre tools bc i'm yet to make a decent progress on td

[barren otter]

i got my main SB to 120 anvil off of coldseeker

[dapper bridge]

Skill issue

[barren otter]

just to squeeze out more dmg lmao

[dapper bridge]

Lol imma do the same soon

Only active at oj bay bc i didn't unlock further portal yet but i'll farm to ik citringes

[dapper prism]

A while ago, i just whetstone everyone and got them all to 100+ anvil quickly. Then whetstone back to speed.

But should definetely grind out more mats some time and do that on SB, forgot that gives him dmg xD

[barren otter]

i just used whetstone to get ppl to 50mil capacity... lol

[dapper prism]

That's high o.o

then again, i believe you do a lot of hourly clicks for speed? xD

[barren otter]

yea im basically done with anvil only thing left is to try to get clicks in for luck bubble

yup clicking hammer hammer

still

[dapper prism]

Only 5x higher than mine 👀

[barren otter]

lmao im also doing this

get larry to 2300 and then stop

[signal osprey]

2300 isn't 99% though

[dapper prism]

Larrry?
https://i.imgur.com/FY89zVr.png

[barren otter]

but i wanna click nickel of wisdom...

[signal osprey]

One uses logs and the other ores. Why not print both?

[barren otter]

oh wait

it was severapurple

that i was planning on clicking after larry

[signal osprey]

You printing fish or something? 3 warriors should have enough slots to print all ores for bubbles

[dapper prism]

I'm not printing dementia/larry

Just guess never refilled it to cap

[untold saffron]

theres no way around cardifying bob for ruby desert set is there

[dapper prism]

if you havnt done the quest on all alts, or wait for new alt salt

[signal osprey]

You could just not do it like me

[dapper prism]

Same

[untold saffron]

455 cards from plat to ruby, I don't think my alts would get me there aha

[dapper prism]

There's a strategy people have written here a few times

As long as you don't hand in the quest

[barren otter]

yea i am atm BB is printing goldfish and iron ore

getting dropping loads to 90%

[dapper bridge]

Don't turn the quest for him, when he ik you just forfeit the quest then repeat (i heard of that but not sure if works)

Worst case just wait for next time that 5 star cardifier become avaliable again

[signal osprey]

Its honestly not even that big of a deal with all the food effect we get from feasty statues now.

[dapper bridge]

The completionist inside me would rather die

[untold saffron]

are you me

[signal osprey]

Complete it when 11th slot comes out then. Cardifying it is spending gems on literally nothing lol

[dapper bridge]

Only if you're incompetent at being one bc i sure am trying to fix my account

[untold saffron]

I'm just trying to get as many completables out of the way before W6

started in january so its been a fair bit of catch up

[dapper bridge]

I'm so lazy to complete main quests that i never got the blunder hero trophy

[untold saffron]

speaking of trophies, I should be able to claim the next step of idle skiller tomorrow

[humble cargo]

Idk where to ask that question but because it's far enough I ask ot here.

Does anyone know how the voidwalkers enhance to the left hand learning ability works?
It states that the bonus is given to himself aswell plus its doubled.
But when I compare the skill xp it goes from 200k to 270k on level 127. (+112% xp, doubled= +224%)
This does not make sense or is it not taking the total xp gain?

[wind umbra]

its cause it only doubles the skills bonus skill xp. you probs have skill xp from other sources

[heavy moth]

fun trial

[humble cargo]

Sorry I don't understand.

It definitely gives me the xp Bonus I tested that with the exactly same build but with and without the left hand learning skill.
But its just not the percentage it displays.

Could you maybe elaborate?

[dapper prism]

If you have 130k XP from other sources, +70k from left hand, makes it 200k. Now double left hand turns this into 270k, not 400k.

[humble cargo]

But I have 200k when I take left hand learning completely out of his preset that's why I'm wondering

[untold saffron]

you have other sources of skill xp, hand adds to your total % it doesn't multiply it

[dapper prism]

All of this is either way easier if you check your actual xp ,multipliers and not afk info. Also be sure to actually refresh UI (change map) since some stuff sometimes doesn't update properly or snapshots etc.

[humble cargo]

So it probably gives around 35k and than doubling that 70k?

[dapper prism]

Left hand really isnt that big of a thing either way.. its ~1x XP, whereas you easily have 10x already from other sources. meaning it's either 11x or 12x xp

[dapper prism]

If you just removed left hand and didnt actual compare it without eclipse

[humble cargo]

Hmm okay I expected a bit of a bigger boost but I mean a boost nonetheless for leveling him

[dapper prism]

biggest thing for vman is mman talent Bliss n chips, blue horse shoe. then level up happy dude (blue face with eye on forehead) in jman

[humble cargo]

Yep I got that on 381 currently

Still just testing around what abilities I wanna level now that I have vman.

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/MTf6cfx.png
https://i.imgur.com/DDVeg0y.png

Even the active talent mman transfusion helps a ton with xp (if you have the effy)
https://i.imgur.com/pZvNvBz.png

Remember, 100% xp just means +1x not doubling your actual xp multiplier

https://i.imgur.com/OkFrfZB.png

So if i gained +200% xp here, that would only make it 34.89x

[untold saffron]

If I'm skill card farming on vman do I chip amorak/Ctroll or snelbie/stache?

[opaque sun]

amarok and snelbie i suppose

Unless you really need the efficiency

[untold saffron]

so afk gain does = more cards?

[dapper bridge]

Usually yes

[untold saffron]

sick

[opaque sun]

afk gain effectively adds more tool swings per hour

cards (and rares) are all about getting in as much tool swings, along with high dr (cdr)

Efficiency doesnt do anything more after reaching 100% accuracy

[tidal sky]

ES is the best to farm recipe right?

[dapper bridge]

The ideal is getting mastery from rift to the point where the skill cards are passive and run both afk gains and card drop

[twin token]

Should I bargain tag sailing artifact bubbles

[dapper bridge]

Anything in the normal drop table is best to farm on ES

[untold saffron]

so hard resources card set is better than easy resources as well then

[opaque sun]

for card farming, yes

[tidal sky]

sure, i am trying to farm the suggma recipe all day and no recipe, if i use midas my DR goes to 18 it would be better with it or nah?

[opaque sun]

On ES you dont use midas

[tidal sky]

less portals right

[opaque sun]

The less wormhole peak kill costs more than the 118% dr that midas gives

[tidal sky]

yeah makes sense, then this recipe is just hard to get

[dapper bridge]

Yeah just an absurd low drop chance

[opaque sun]

Its like maybe a week or two active farming, or like 100 days of afk to get the gloves recipe

[tidal sky]

what a week or two active...

[opaque sun]

of course, some are luckier than others

[tidal sky]

i plan on waking up tomorrow with the recipe already 😭

[opaque sun]

May happen, but also likely it may not happen

[dapper bridge]

Yeah i wasted all my luck by getting the damn efaunt cape on chaotic by accident💀

[paper nova]

Just got my first god for divinity. I should just link him right? even though you can only re-link once a week no need to hold off ?

and put every single gaming bit I have into upgrading his blessing? 😂

[opaque sun]

you get a free reset everytime you unlock a god anyway

[paper nova]

ooooh sick

[dapper bridge]

You can unlink twice per week and once more if you unlock a divinity that week

[paper nova]

thx lava for that

[dapper bridge]

When unlinking you can do multiple chars at once aswell

[opaque sun]

By “once more”, it adds two resets i think. Unlocking god treats as another week

yeah its not “two characters” but more of “2 batch reset tries”

[dapper bridge]

It took me two weeks to realize that bc i forgot to read🤣

[bold quiver]

does anyone has any idea why my character is invisible?

like cant be seen by other players

[opaque sun]

shadowban, or the map is too crowded

[bold quiver]

could be

[paper sail]

Shadowbanned for cheating, obviously

[paper nova]

happened to me when i started a new character but after i did a quest and hit lvl 20 it went away?

[bold quiver]

probably, was fine until today

cuz yesterday i did the achievement for 2 players together

[opaque sun]

if like say in dungeon, its common for thing you or others cant be seen

[dapper bridge]

Do ppl actually cheat on idleon?

[bold quiver]

yeah in dungeon

[paper nova]

Didn't know there was a way to cheat or get shadowbanned

is it taboo to explain?

👍

[opaque sun]

it just seems like a display limit of map as the game doesnt prioritize even if in the same party

thats is why you have lot of people not “present in map” for dungeons and why the matching system sucks

[bold quiver]

makes sense, had forgot about that

been so long that i havent done dungeon

[dapper bridge]

I would very much think that talking about cheating on the game discord where the dev is very taboo

[paper sail]

A prime reason why the party dungeon is so shit. You invite A, they invite B. Too bad you can't see B, so now you can't start the dungeon.

[bold quiver]

yeah it happened when iwas trying to do w2 dungeon a while back, it was a pain

[paper nova]

Wasn't asking for details of how to do " up up down down left right left right " lol. Can say someone did bad things without saying the details of it

[bold quiver]

worked out in the end tho

[opaque sun]

the party invite obviously invited others not seen too, and also issue with what player A sees are different from what player B sees

[dapper bridge]

Lol ik bro but i don't know any details on that

[paper nova]

it's cool. im content just never sleeping ever again now that I know and no one can tell me 😭

On another note - should I make saure my mman has 100 pts in vman talent even before I hit vman?

[dapper bridge]

Then imma going to add you bc doing w2 dungeon is boring alone (never passed t3)

[opaque sun]

there are always people edit games in general

[bold quiver]

w2 dungeon is horrible

[dapper bridge]

Put the points when you unlock vman (skilling will prob do the trick)

[paper nova]

How do I pick one ship to return when they are stacked like this? Do i have to wait until they seperate on their journies?

[opaque sun]

w2 dungeon is more for solo runs, or runs with someone you know

[dapper prism]

through the boat tab

[dapper bridge]

But the achievments rewards don't

[bold quiver]

haha yeah

[opaque sun]

Go to crew and use trash can to return specific one

[paper nova]

OOh i thought that would fire my captain - ok ty

[dapper bridge]

You need to take him out of the boat to delete so don't worry that much

[opaque sun]

It returns a captain first, then you have to disembark the captain to actually fire it so its quite accident proof

[round drift]

How do I get 150 p

pirate flag if everytime it gets to 100 it spends 25 to spawn a giant?

Trying to get eruption falls achievement

[dapper prism]

remove your vman eclipse talent

[opaque sun]

Take off the enhancement

[round drift]

Ah, ty

[paper sail]

Report it as a bug like the other 15 people a day 😂

[mighty galleon]

does skill efficiency increase statue gain when mining ? (trying to get 100k on veryone)

[opaque sun]

If at 100%, nope

[paper nova]

Do you get ancient artifacts by basically finding hte articaft a second time?

[round drift]

third time

[paper sail]

Only up to 100% gather chance. No change after that.

Ancient is 2nd, Eldritch is 3rd time

[dapper bridge]

Only if you're not at 100%, if you are then afk gains are better

[mighty galleon]

ok good to know ty

[dapper prism]

most important is skilling speed

from skill food

[mighty galleon]

at mining?

[round drift]

What Scoli said

[opaque sun]

use food to get tool speed to 62

[mighty galleon]

at mining for statues?

[dapper bridge]

Any skill

[dapper prism]

For all skills,

[mighty galleon]

neat getting there is easy

[opaque sun]

more speed = more tool swings made per hr = more drop counts

[paper nova]

more speed = more fast = more furious

[bright current]

am i missin somethin here?

[dapper prism]

based on highest char that's been there

[paper nova]

^

[bright current]

that guy is literally standing next to them

[paper nova]

were you hoping it would count it for that char instead? lol (reward: -10)

[devout moth]

damn, man. I was all excited to get to w5 just to find out I have 15 hours of AFK time I have to burn through now 😭

[dapper prism]

so? 7k mana is less than 270k

[paper nova]

Seems to be the trend with w4 w5. w6 will be a month of afk

[dapper prism]

it saves

[opaque sun]

Lot of people misread MP as HP

[paper nova]

Meant to reply to Jed not you bunny lol

[devout moth]

doot just needs your characters to be lvl 2 div right? I don't need to unlock all the divinities?

[dapper prism]

wasnt there a tony meme for that? xD

[opaque sun]

lv2 on the active character yes

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/iAAdLnB.png

[opaque sun]

Even if your other 9 are at lv 999 divinity, if you active on a character with div lv1, doot disables for everyone

[muted bramble]

me not understand the first dot and giving up on reading the others

still got my issue about my guaranteed mythical pet for next rotation, if its gonna be reset or not

[gloomy dust]

W chart, thanks

[somber path]

We don't know yet. If it doesn't then you will miss out on the first few pets but at the same time $500 is super expensive for a single pet

I hope it does because of the lower tier pets but at the same time I'm only 300 draws from a guaranteed mythical

[rotund rivet]

Can I use candy for this?

[dapper prism]

Feel like it may be against both ios/google tos if it just randomly reset progress (without any form of warning)

[dapper prism]

Worship does go up with candy, but you do NOT do that in the city. Just candy regular stuff and it goes up, same as your anvil progress stuff

[rotund rivet]

Thank you.

[snow light]

what should I do for equipment i am returning from a very long hiatus just got to W5 of course as you can tell a LOT of my equipment is outdated i know there was an equipment pin a while back but idk if i should just upgrade to the next level of stuff which would be the void for me and or the green mat equipment but my miner is currently not able to get a lot of mats cause if i sample i get like 2 per hour(currently doing the youtube mission line so keeping the stuff incase it becomes important)

[lucid olive]

Can mushroom and bonsai grow past level 2

Or whatever you call it

For gaming

[obsidian nacelle]

Yessss, all plants can.

[lucid olive]

Cool thanks

[nocturne peak]

how do i even get enough bits for the snail.... feels so far from the last upgrade

[dapper prism]

Check the pin for divinity, and be sure to start divinity asap.
Then backtrack with your active. Some possible things: #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

To your question:
You will want boss gear, you will NOT make lustre or Diabolical sets.
Good thing to aim for initially will be full Dementia, which turns into void, then Chizoar.
Your main goal will be full troll, most people are timegated because of salts, since you were gone you might have a lot. Either way, Next get Troll which turns into Magma, which pretty much instantly turns into Divine. Keep in mind magma can be better for certain thigns (mainly samples).

Try and upgrade your scarf too to the better version of chizoar scarf

[wispy sapphire]

what's the name of the website that lists all the sources for each stat?

[lapis mesa]

idleon insight

[wispy sapphire]

thanks

[snow light]

thank you

[pine pond]

ballloons

[chrome tiger]

clash of cans wave 120 gonna take a while

i hope 121-130 is easier

[thorn oriole]

Do you by any chance have discord kittens?

[ocean fox]

for my family obol should I go three sparkle drop rate or 3 kattlecruk for my three gmushers. Is the 48 percent difference in drop rate worth the increase of fifteen percent afk gains?

[pine pond]

wym

[thorn oriole]

Your pfp makes me feel like you do

[pine pond]

ofc

[thorn oriole]

Damn you’re the alpha 😮

[pine pond]

almost done

[lapis mesa]

how insane is your GT

[glad flower]

hi i play idleon on my school email my school blocked idleon is there any way i can get my acount back

hi i play idleon on my school email my school blocked idleon is there any way i can get my acount back

[pine pond]

only 13k

[pine pond]

email lava cause im confused about ur question

[frosty silo]

did buy new stamp from trash island. but l didnt get any new stamp.. is it a bug?

[pine pond]

did you pick it up from ground :3

i did the same thing

[frosty silo]

hmm l guess not

thought it would enter my inv xD

[pine pond]

same

[eternal wasp]

Should I try my luck or wait?

[pine pond]

i did all 1% 5% and 10% till god ranks

but if you dont have doot, then you should wait in between

to relink

cause unlocking a new god resets your links 😛

so you can re-link for free

[eternal wasp]

Don't have doot

[pine pond]

helpful advice 😛

[eternal wasp]

[pine pond]

and be sure you relink everyone you want too

cause youd have to wait otherwise

i mean reset

[eternal wasp]

That's fine
They can rot in the lab or divinity

[pine pond]

lmao

[mild merlin]

I just blew a lot of air to get that slot,I think I'll have the captain by tmr then

[mild merlin]

Do you have doot

[toxic saddle]

Why have you not changed your name yet ☠️

[narrow sable]

if you think you can hit a 1% god roll you might as well spin the 1% for doot

mane i’ve hit everything but doot but i aint doin all that 😭

[eternal wasp]

I had the free companion roll today and got bloque

I don't think I'll get the god with 10% today

Guess I have to wait another 10 days

[narrow sable]

tbh i only do like 25% and 50% and it takes a long ass time but i always get it in like 1-3 attempts

[eternal wasp]

Then you don't know my luck

I failed every 1%

[patent hatch]

Future content blog 🦻

[split orbit]

Should I put all my characters on divinity 1 exp per hour once they get to level 15 (with one character pushing?)

[ashen marsh]

should I recycle any pets

[split orbit]

you cant recycle untradeables

[mild merlin]

Recycling does nothing except clear space

[mild merlin]

I'm pretty sure you can

[split orbit]

i mean it doesnt give green gems

mb

[mild merlin]

Neither does tradable I think

Recycling is only for cleaning space

[split orbit]

tradeables give green gems since you got them with money ig

[paper nova]

Someone earlier asked about how to get 150 + on your plundering mobs flag. what's the significance of that?

[vestal delta]

probably this

[paper nova]

ooh.. one day i'll unlock w5 task board o.o

[lapis mesa]

guess ive got some work to do... youve only got 10k on me 🙂

[pine pond]

10k lol

thats quite a bit

difference

[lapis mesa]

yeah heavy sarcasm. ive got some work to do

[vestal delta]

what's your guys hammer hammer bubble at?

[lapis mesa]

gotta get better rates out of my bubo first

[granite grove]

wondering, how much 1st and 2nd water regen/hr do you have? just need for reference

[pine pond]

i need to work on it

[pine pond]

another thing i need to work on

[vestal delta]

i need to work on it even more

[granite grove]

oh ty, guess i need to push bit more on stamps and alch levels

[runic jay]

Does fractal island work? Says im fishing for afk

[vital crane]

I'm trying to get crystal kills for my V-man, where's the best place to do it?

[wind umbra]

from my understanding its currently bugged rn. There was someone that mentioned something that could fix it but i dont remember what it was.

[runic jay]

Dang. Wish i knew fix ]:

[modern plaza]

go afk in town

[wind umbra]

depends on what you could one shot. but generally higher map desnity the better

[vital crane]

Is there a benefit to doing higher worlds, or will w1 do?

[runic jay]

I want to use candys for it

[tall dirge]

hey, looking for w2 island guide as in which island to unlock next

[wind umbra]

doesnt really matter, but the higher the better since u get more exp from higher worlds. as long as you can one shot the crystal it should be fine.

[wind umbra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738868424813445172/1137812635254009906/islandnavfinalfr.png
I think the rec path has changed to : Trash>Shimmer/Seasalt>Shimmer/Seasalt>Crystal>Rando>Fractal

but im putting the guide sicne it has useful information on island if you want to make your own decision

[tall dirge]

thats whati was looking for ty

[tight ridge]

whats the easiest colo i can get this done with vman

[dapper prism]

Fractal is just always situational

[dapper prism]

The only one you can get that score on is w4

[paper nova]

It's from royal worm why would it be easy anywhere

If you snapshot card drop% cards is there anyway to know it worked besides doing rocket science math every 1000 kills to make sure the drop rate is correct?

[dapper prism]

Why DR? dr doesnt snapshot

[paper nova]

card drop rate doesn't?

[tight ridge]

thats so annoying

[paper nova]

rip

[dapper prism]

Card drop does, but it's simple, just equip card chance stuff and enter the map, then chance the cards to other ones

Not sure what that has to do with every 1k kill kinda stuff

[paper nova]

well just to make sure it's working the only way you would know is by calculating how many cards you get per kill. 1k was just an example #

[dapper prism]

Could also toss in a 1h candy and compare

[paper nova]

oh true true

[dapper prism]

Even if you candy, the card chance still stays snapped

[paper nova]

will have to try that later to prove to myself its snapping lol

[dapper prism]

But if you do something wrong on the easiest snapshot that you have to compare it, then you shouldnt worry about snapshot

[paper nova]

losing sleep at night wondering if i'm losing cards >.<

lol true

I don't even know how to snapshot other stuff so this is a baby step i guess

[dapper prism]

Ctrl+F Trickzbunny snapshot 😄

Even have a vid for sampling snapshot

[paper nova]

ooohhh you're the snapshot maestro

[tight ridge]

got it

[paper nova]

tyty

@dapper prism does snapshot persist as long as you don't leave map? Ig: if you swap characters and swap back do you need to resnap?

[dapper prism]

while at it, read contracts or whomever comments beneath my snapshot tips tab #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

To also setup construction snapshot 😄

[paper nova]

ooo

[dapper prism]

No it doesnt persist and Yes you have to resnapp *because switching alts is still leaving the map, as it's "loading the map new" on enter

[paper nova]

rip - k thx

[drifting breach]

Why is fractal island not working, it makes me fish I cant get any doing nothing hours

[zinc torrent]

It’s a android bug

[vagrant mountain]

lets see how fast I get tired of clicking all these bubbles

[sharp wind]

Which bug give fastest oceanman statue in w2? Or all the same?

[vagrant mountain]

all same, you can check in the card info

[crisp silo]

Might as well take the time to red card the bugs

[sharp wind]

Alright thanks

Better on sb i assume rather than vman right?

[fresh plank]

Does nugget in gaming have limit? Im stuck around 11.5k

[calm knoll]

Since Fractal wants nothing and the island is scuffed and counts as fishing how does one candy "Nothing" as you cant candy air in home towns?

[calm knoll]

iirc it has a cap which scales with the shovel but getting to it is not something you'll realisticly ever get

[paper nova]

Is there anything in the w5 maps that I should push for sooner than later? Rn I'm just doing map 1-3 to unlock my task board/achievements but if there's nothing super game breaking after 3 then I'm gonna pause pushing

Like... realistically game breaking since pushing rn is a pain

[calm knoll]

Divinity is something that you wanna push early on put all chars in div and come back a few days later some gods such as the bear are really good early on

[paper nova]

Yea div Is one reason why I want my pusher to take a break

[calm knoll]

As for actual mob pushing maps 4 and 9 have good quest mobs however they are mobs which require sailing and divinity gains so even when getting them its not something you can realistically finish by the time you get to it; I'd focus on getting Multitool asap as it will massively aid your skilling gains across the board.

[fresh plank]

Tenk

[untold leaf]

They say that the fish thing is an android bug. Maybe try another island like shimmer or garbage?

[calm knoll]

Neah, I'll trust in Lava that he will fix the bug along side VMan not being able to finish the Wurm questline even after spending countless hours doing shit like 100 blitz trolls

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[drifting breach]

I’m on iPhone 14

[pale slate]

how do i get last spice from last kitchen ? i've reached last territory already

[drifting breach]

Not in game yet

[pale slate]

thank you

[drifting breach]

Np

[eternal wasp]

Why is this 0% ?

[daring ravine]

Reenter the map

[eternal wasp]

Yess..

[eternal wasp]

[zinc torrent]

Sailing: if I have not yet discovered an area and is still under clouds, I do not get loot until I discover right?
Also, I should be focusing on getting at least a 2nd ship from the closest location so that I can discover new area and get loot at the same time?

[feral whale]

it would be 0% almost with all new artifact until you reenter the map)

[brazen plover]

are any of the gem shop upgrades worth it for world 5? the infographic doesn't have the world 5 stuff on it

[dapper prism]

The proper gem shop tier list does 😉

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738868424813445172/1103690013125902336/tonysgemshoptierlistv4.png

same as the spreadsheet has it

[brazen plover]

thank you!

[gilded bane]

so what happens if my dungeon is upgraded too much so that I can't get the beginner weapons for my maestro? is my slab just locked out of those?

[dapper prism]

I keep seeing it two ways and honestly not sure whats true.
Some say you're "locked out" others say it was fixed a while ago and you should automatically get anything thats lower tier.

Would only take a few minutes to test tbh

[gilded bane]

i mean i just did a dungeon run and it didnt update for my maestro, with my other characters it worked tho..

[brazen plover]

also can someone explain how you kick off divinity so I can leave town? do I just leave someone on the altar and click offerings until it works?

[gilded bane]

o no nvm, i looked in game and it works 😅

[dapper prism]

gotta lobby for IE to update

[gilded bane]

I did and it didnt update right away xD

so i was worried but we all good

[gilded bane]

and pretty much, I would suggest leaving most of your ppl in divinity until bear/goat gods

[dapper prism]

Pin has a long guide

[gilded bane]

im sad that I can't get pete the peanut ever again :/

[brazen plover]

cant have everyone do divinity if I need 8/10 characters to keep the lab lit up 🙃

[gilded bane]

u dont need lab lit up if you're in divinity 🙃

xD

i could keep a few there for the refinery and alchemy but other than that divinity is more important

[brazen plover]

also true lol. I'm kind of behind on salts so keeping that node lit up would be nice but yeah

I need all 8 to hit the alchemy node

idk how I got through world 4 while having fuckall progression in its mechanics

[tropic echo]

the fifth god lets you do lab and div at the same time

[brazen plover]

small steps right now I just need to be let out of town lmao

[gilded bane]

lmao

honestly

not really

[brazen plover]

I basically hit world 4, set up my ES to afk push, got everyone elite specs and void tools, then put everyone in the lab until I hit w5

[gilded bane]

I stayed in w5 town for a solid week or two before I even tried to fight things

yea me too :)

[brazen plover]

I would like to put my ES onto afk pushing again but if it's normal to be in town for a while I'll just deal

[gilded bane]

I mean.. i did sailing for quite a while, i also went back and started to get infi salts and better cooking

u dont really need to push w5, i did it to get everyone to lvl 200-250 or so but eh

[brazen plover]

I just want to let people out of the lab again. The game's more fun when I'm deciding which resource to farm on each character instead of needing to keep everyone in the lab for months

[gilded bane]

once u get arctis, he helps

[brazen plover]

I think I just dislike all of the w4 mechanics

[gilded bane]

i have everyone on arctis (not reccommended) but helped me keep ppl out of the lab

fair

[brazen plover]

I'll stop whining and get back to afking until I unlock the "you can play the game again" divinity lol

[gilded bane]

lmao

I'd put everyone on focus then spam the left offering til you get 100%, takes a while but its worth it

[brazen plover]

whats the difference between the 2

the 1% went up to 5%, does the right one not do that?

[gilded bane]

1-5-10% chance on the left, 25-50-100% on the right

[brazen plover]

wait so which do I spam

[gilded bane]

spam left til you get the 100%

itll take a bit but thats how i did it

[tender leaf]

Does the pong controller gaming upgrade really do nothing?

[worthy shoal]

Actually it does the exact same thing as the bobjoepickle vial

[tender leaf]

I'm stuck on millions of green bits. how do I get more multipliers to get billions of green / red bits? I have sailing artifacts and everything, seems like im missing something big

[brazen plover]

awesome, thanks a lot for the help

turns out i only need 3 for the refinery so i have 7 on div now

[viral snow]

Big nugget rng

[tender leaf]

But I have x8230 big nugget

[viral snow]

Get a 100k one then

[steady beacon]

Guys, I'm on rift 25 at the moment - 5m kills. I think it would take me around 3 full days of afk pushing with my BB, SB and ES to reach that milestone, which unlocks stamp mastery. What I'd really like to push for though is Eldritch at lvl 31, but that means another 5m kills at 30, which i assume will go even slower.

My question - is it worth investing several days of afk for the stamp mastery unlock?

And projecting even further, should I push for the eldritch? Or do I just accept that my damage is still too low, and focus on other things for the moment?

[next locust]

I'd push for eldrich, assuming you can clear the trick stages of course

[steady beacon]

my current damage is in the 300m range, and the lvl 25 mobs have 560m life, so don't benefit from multikill

[steady beacon]

i guess that'll be a huge source of bonus damage, hey?

[next locust]

Huge bonus for pretty much everything

[steady beacon]

I'm sitting on around 12 green coins, so I can afford to push my stamps a bit, but need to figure out which ones will give me the most benefit.

[next locust]

3 days with 3 chars per 5mil stage is small price to pay imho

[steady beacon]

ok, appreciate it! Thanks!

I assume lvl 30 is going to be a lot more than 3 days.

But I'll get the stamp unlock for now, and see where it takes me.

[next locust]

Not really, as you can reach that 1x afk kills with attack talents pretty easily even with lower damage.
You might fail to advance through other stages with insufficient damage, tho, but it's worth the try to test it

[safe tangle]

How much damage is recommended for maestro on nm kattle

[acoustic marten]

yo, my atom collider will be finished in the next few days, anything i can prepare in advance? aside from cost reduction

[balmy harness]

How do I get plants to lv 5? Do I just have to wait until it happens?

Like all the plants on screen is lv 4 atm, and I used the log and gained 12 hours, but they still are lv 4

I have gotten lv 5 on some before

It also says a plant can evolve up to 6 times

[dapper prism]

If you dont have chemical and/or log, dont worry about that too much tbh.
And yes, mainly turn on kitsune and "wait" plus using the time skips would help a lot

[dapper prism]

Have 3d samples in the 10's of millions.
Once you unlock it, set it to 1050m and turn it off. it will still convert anything above 1050m even if off. and thats about it

[balmy harness]

I have both Log and Chemical

SO turn on the rock?

[dapper prism]

See pin, 50b is rough, 100b is easier

[acoustic marten]

thanks!

[dapper prism]

well yeh. since more cycles = more chances to get the next tier.

[balmy harness]

oki oki thanks

[acoustic marten]

i just did the lvl5 grind for all plants, only the tree missing (dont have chemical yet).

and it takes its time. some of them just went 5 by "accident" others i had a full screen of that plant for 2-3 days.

rng feels hard on that one, keep your head up 😄

(also ive been thinking it might not be super worthwhile to focus on that too early, value might be higher by just harvesting all over again and leveling up gains/speed and do evolutions later when its much easier/faster)

[dapper prism]

t5 should be very easy if you have chem/log already

[balmy harness]

Yeah I see, but I'm sort of stuck atm... I need a higher nugget I think, only at 24k

[dapper prism]

what's your evo chance in muta and your growth cycle time?

[dapper prism]

my nugget is sub 20k and i got pretty much everything

[balmy harness]

19,2%

[acoustic marten]

got both the sailing artefacts?

[balmy harness]

Which ones are those?

[acoustic marten]

gummi orb and weatherbook

[balmy harness]

https://gyazo.com/f8307d32d1868a78fdfa048e851298fe

[acoustic marten]

you do. i think youre well off atm...what makes you think youre stuck?

[balmy harness]

Everything is super expensive, and I get about a little over 1b

green

Guess I need to "uppgrade" the artifacts

[acoustic marten]

maybe go back to your achievements and try to do some easy ones is what i can think of aswell

my bits per achievement bonus is 4 times the evolution/log book one

[balmy harness]

I only miss the Luck Harvest one for the gaming

[eternal wasp]

Is there any guide on gaming and sailing? I can see about div in pins.. and not other two

[dapper prism]

Not much to need a guide on for them tbh

but the guide sheet itself has a bunch of basics

Guide sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[teal lynx]

Yo Trickz does that mean 101 Statues per Portal?
Statue Farming definitely takes some time for me
I only get around 20-25 per Portal with 14.4x dr and 120b dmg

[acoustic marten]

can i prefarm those statues and then drop em on the quest or does it register the monster drops?

[astral vapor]

Prefarm

Juat make sure to drop exactly 20k and not hand them in for level

[next locust]

You can prefarm the statues you use to turn onyx (20k) but you still need to farm 100k statues per character to finish the questline

[dapper prism]

updated the pic

[acoustic marten]

lol what? yeah, see that quest in 2 years maybe lol

[astral vapor]

100k is easy. Use a few candy on a mining mage and done

[acoustic marten]

wasnt sure what "per character" meant and figured it was 100k each

[astral vapor]

Oh you can do the quest per character but the unlock only needs to be done once for your account.

[acoustic marten]

aaaah now i get it

[dapper prism]

added more images based on my spreadsheet

[vocal ibex]

What's the max level of grind time

[dapper prism]

None afaik

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/53c593c59d498b62e29136cb2103e393.png

skill efficiency here we come

[pliant kettle]

whats the max drop chance% for a pop obol?

[dapper prism]

Base 2% Bronze which would be 3% silver.
But you reroll it so its 3% bronze and 4% silver.

It's always only +1% more than base, no matter when you reroll it, but reroll costs more shards for higher grade obols, so you reoll them on their lowest version usually.

[pliant kettle]

thank you

[potent lily]

What towers do i need to upgrade most for td?

[granite grove]

boulder, and then gets replaced by poisonic if lv15-20+

at least for me, i used poisonic bit early than recommended lv20 and it already does good result at lv14 at that time

[tacit tulip]

Poison is a little hard to set up for the early waves at those levels, but yeah it's better

[vocal ibex]

7 days 9.3 drop chance for sugma recipe. What you think ? Good chance or no

I'm being as patient as I can cuz I did a long time playing active no recipe

[tacit tulip]

Guaranteed drop is measured in months for that unfortunately

[teal lynx]

You can check your Royal Urns and see how "close" you are.
1k Royal Urns and the Recipe have the same droprate
This is only an estimate. Some people got it at 5k Urns and some people at 100 Urns

[vocal ibex]

I have over 1500

My game Force closes when I'm sleeping about 6 hours in

[rapid talon]

which boss can be considered "random event bosses"?

[vocal ibex]

No luck I failed

[iron mesa]

Any random event one

[zealous niche]

The ones that pop up temporarily in random maps

The grumblo, frost night, giant frog, snake in a jar

[tacit tulip]

sooooon

[hollow osprey]

gimme doot

[hot prawn]

Do the cards you previously collected count towards getting the rift tier cards immediately upon unlocking them?

[tacit tulip]

You probably won't get many as the ruby cards are a lot harder to reach, but yes it carries over

[hollow osprey]

when should i start pushing rift? just did first rift yet

[vocal ibex]

For fractal Island where I use a 24 hour candy to do nothing I tried in towns

Asap the bonuses are incredible I think

[tacit tulip]

You have to use it on the island itself, though I've heard it doesn't work on mobile

[vocal ibex]

Ohh yeah it fishes on mobile

Not nothing

[tacit tulip]

If you can push rift, consider it. Bonuses are every 6 levels though they don't get really good until 16+

[hollow osprey]

i'm not sure if i can, but should be able to do some levels definitely

is ES fine for 2nd level with the rift drop thing?

[tacit tulip]

Best one for it really

Early rift is mostly a talent check to make sure you're levelling up the right skills to pass the tests

Later rift is largely a DPS check

[uneven violet]

Good point

[hollow osprey]

oh well

ill use ES with dr setup then

[uneven violet]

Around when can I get the first one done? 😭😭😭😭

Damage stat on es just above 3m

Or just below

[tacit tulip]

Can't advise on that unfortunately:D was strong enough to do 20+ on rift release

[uneven violet]

I get around 300 kills before reset

Allg

[hollow osprey]

i still need the fckin dmg artifact for build rate at construction

[uneven violet]

I think I gotta wait till 5m damage for more 1 shits

[tacit tulip]

Assuming you're on shotting the mobs it'll be a class or a talent issue

[pure ember]

What are the 2 card sets for vman? 1 for pushing speedruns and 1 for sampling?

[hollow osprey]

sailing sucks, i dont have luck at idleon

[uneven violet]

Oh I do too

Got an ancient slab arti 4 artifact in 😂

[uneven violet]

Yes I think

[uneven violet]

I don’t one shot r1 is 5m

[hollow osprey]

try again when youre oneshotting them