lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[lavish cloak]

po6 wants my pearlers tho >D

[signal osprey]

A couple W2 colos will give more kebabs than you can reasonably farm from po3

You can skip the pearler ones if you want

[paper sail]

Yeah just pen reset

[vestal delta]

should I farm pearler shells w/ choco chip for extra crystals on the side? or just straight up wormhole

[lavish cloak]

pearler is technically optimal with ES, but DK is not far behind and i take every excuse to not use ES i can get

[signal osprey]

I farm pearlers on DK because thats the best map for W4 statue farming anyway

[vestal delta]

aight I'll give that a go

[signal osprey]

I was still getting like 30 something an hour even on DK so it wasnt too bad

[vestal delta]

I've been grinding mats to craft 10 sets of troll + magma, and I'm just missing the 250 shells now 🥲
hopefully 10 hours should do it

[lavish cloak]

how much more damage do i need before it says 1.01T rather than 10100000 million

[signal osprey]

It switches at 10T

[lavish cloak]

1e13. mighty

[paper sail]

I sometimes get to see the fancy purple T hat

I don't look forward to losing out on the number accuracy though

[signal osprey]

Then just get more damage

So you get your excess numbers back

[paper sail]

[lavish cloak]

all problems are solved with bigger numbers

https://tenor.com/view/number-go-up-bitcoin-bullrun-stocks-candle-chart-gif-19814091

[paper sail]

Y'all got a sale on big damage?

[lavish cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/for-sale-sparta-face-globe-spinning-gif-14397815

[vestal delta]

it only lasted for 1 second, but this made dopamine go brrr

[lavish cloak]

QUAD SHOCKWAVE!!!!!

that's like having 4 leonardos in a teanagemutantninjaturtlesquad

i think i've finally solved my desync problem while farming statues. throwing this on the loot filter

[signal osprey]

Yeah I filter almost every mob drop I farm now

Need even more loot filters so I dont have to change every time I farm something new

[lavish cloak]

my compulsion is to get 1050 mil of the resource after maxxing the vial for whatever i loot filter

[signal osprey]

Only 6 more colo runs

[little pagoda]

Mob drops kinda suck to farm without huge carry cap and huge multikill, for now I'll just max vials I can 3d print lol

[vestal delta]

what about vman mob prints?

[lavish cloak]

100% was the entire goal of vial farming

[little pagoda]

I'm not at the point I can farm 1b mob mats yet but eventually

[little pagoda]

Sure when I get there, for now I'm just using him to print green mush caps for the multiplier bubbles

[vital crane]

Can someone look into my idleon efficiency and tell me what more to improve for my ES strength, and any bonuses I can get for my M-man to help with the mushroom grind? https://citrusk.idleonefficiency.com/
Thank you in advance 🙂

[vagrant mountain]

stamps alchemy

[little pagoda]

But rare mats like pearls are literally impossible right?

I wonder what kind of bonus will be available in the future to make it possible

[gentle anchor]

how exactly does this work

your cap doesnt matter anymore?

[vestal delta]

it procs daily on shop reset iirc, like all nblb and other daily things

[gentle anchor]

so it isnt so good

[vagrant mountain]

it's dogshit

[vestal delta]

it's pretty bad, yeah

[gentle anchor]

ow ok

[prisma drift]

It’s actually great?

I never collect anvil

That’s my only claim

[lone kindle]

I mean it's good if you don't really collect anvil production, or if your production capacity is higher than it can produce of that type in a day I suppose, though I don't see much point in that when you can just put more points into speed.

[signal osprey]

I mean it technically does work but it works in a pretty bad way so you end up spending a lot of time capped

[vagrant mountain]

It only claims when anvil is full

[prisma drift]

Wouldn’t you just lose one day capped and then be on a normal cycle?

Or do I not understand how it works

[signal osprey]

Buckle up kiddos is crash course through lava code time

[rough wasp]

I like it when im lazy

[signal osprey]

So yes the common idea that it collects once a day on reset is correct but thats not the problem with it

The problem is that anvil mats arent produced in real time

So if you have a character who is afk for 8 hours he will have 0 mats produced until you switch to him and check his afk gains and then it gives 8 hours of production at once

[prisma drift]

So it’s okay as long as I check my characters?

[signal osprey]

You'd have to be sure to check every single character before every daily reset

[prisma drift]

I check my characters pretty often for hourly clicks

[foggy apex]

whats the link to the idleon guide spreadsheet

[prisma drift]

Like I check all 10 every 1-3 hours

[vagrant mountain]

might as well quick collect

[signal osprey]

Yeah thats the thing. The only way the pipeline works correctly is if youre checking everyone anyway

It was designed to be an afk QoL mechanic except it doesnt work if you afk lol

[prisma drift]

Adding another 20 taps?

No thank you

[signal osprey]

Yeah for hourly clickers its not too big of a deal because most of your mats should be up to date each hour

[vagrant mountain]

Ive got that quick collect muscle memory since w2 baby

[signal osprey]

Its only an issue if your reset happens in the middle of the night or something when you arent clicking then you might lose some hours

This also assumes you have at least 24 hours worth of capacity as well

[prisma drift]

My reset happens like an hour after I get off work

[signal osprey]

Because it still only collects at daily reset

[prisma drift]

My cap is like 7m on everyone

[vagrant mountain]

my reset used to be 2am, now it's 8am such a weird time cuz I start work at 7am 😔

[signal osprey]

Yeah you have to check regularly and have a day of capacity to use it to its fullest

Such a clunky implementation for a mechanic thats supposed to be Qol

[prisma drift]

Should just have made it like spice spillage

If you have over an hour of afk claim anvil

[signal osprey]

The thing is that he made the anvil before W3 though

So the mats not being produced in real time was okay

And then he didnt want to rework it I guess

[paper sail]

Finally T6 Voraci

[prisma drift]

Man that t7 plant was wild

Can you cheat plants in?

Or is it legit

[vagrant mountain]

feels like none of lava's code is very thought out and his solution always seems to create a new system instead of fixing the broken system

Can't fix Gems? GREEN GEMS

[signal osprey]

Well tbf on its own the anvil implementation is fine

Its the auto arm that doesnt really get along with it

[foggy apex]

whys ur shell purple

[rough wasp]

so turn off auto arm

[paper sail]

Shell changes colors/appearance every few ranks

[foggy apex]

ah k

[signal osprey]

It is over

[foggy apex]

also

[paper sail]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[foggy apex]

thx

[lapis mesa]

ill leave that to someone else, last time i posted it Dyno merced me

[rough wasp]

for now

[lapis mesa]

i love that IE tells me things id never want to know.. 116 days worth of atoms for me to be able to unlock sodium

[signal osprey]

Yeah I'll be back in a few days lol

Need to start stocking up a lot of candy

[rough wasp]

im farming w4 mats so i can get collo tickets

[edgy tusk]

Just me or do hamters take forever to farm?

[rough wasp]

probably not the most efficient use of my active time rn though

[hidden grove]

yo cogtimizer is crazy

[paper sail]

Crazy bad

[hidden grove]

oh fr

[paper sail]

It doesn't calculate directionals on players anywhere near correctly

[hidden grove]

ah

[vapid steppe]

If you go straight for the last carry bag all the others get added as well?

[paper sail]

Not added, skipped

[vapid steppe]

So my last 3 characs i just didnt pay attention and gave them straight the last one, they will have the same carry capacity as the other 7?

[rough wasp]

yes

[paper sail]

Correct

[vapid steppe]

besides the passive effect like vman and stuff like that

oh god.. then whats thte point of doing the early ones

im so dumb

[paper sail]

+1 slab

[rough wasp]

When it used to use the old bags

[vapid steppe]

Oh god, well thanks! at least i can finish a couple characs without doing them all

[paper nova]

should i be worried that i hit w5 and then got hardstuck on the first map of mobs? lol

not tanky enough

[lapis mesa]

not really, its a common thing now, get divinity and sailing started and start fixing all the mechanics you rushed through to get there

[rough wasp]

sailing artifacts are op

[violet totem]

is there an island guide? (which to buy etc)

[gentle bobcat]

nope..... i felt that too when i opened W5

your priority should be getting God Arctis so that your lab passives are working

[paper sail]

There is, but i don't really agree with its conclusions. Imo, Trash first, then Seasalt, then Shimmer, then Rando, then Crystal, then Fractal

[violet totem]

ok thxs! where can i see the bonuses of the last 3?

[grizzled elk]

Wiki has the most info probably

[paper sail]

Nobody has them all unlocked yet, so info is still not very cohesive unfortunately

Wiki is indeed the best place to start though

[hidden grove]

me waiting for new update

[bright current]

fellas, whats a good stopping point for the drop rate bubble?

[lost topaz]

Suggestions on next alchemy focus? not quite progressed enough to push W5 bubbles but can reasonably work on anything else.

ik buble 1's should be higher but I am only on about an hour a day so hourly clicks aren't an option for me.

[paper sail]

Suffering for you. Stats and hourly clicks in general drive SO much progress

[paper nova]

what are hourly clicks? i heard griffy explain them but he was vague AF

[violet totem]

someone knows the new bribes from trash island?

[reef bough]

How this interect with giant mob prayer will it make it chance to spawn smaler?

[paper sail]

Bubble costs cap at 1000m per level. Eventually, you can print over 1000m of certain resources per hour. So hourly clicks just means leveling bubbles every hour when your 3d printer adds resources

[paper nova]

ooooooooo........ ty

[paper sail]

You can't spawn giants at all with that Superbit

[reef bough]

I mean the no more praying effect

Maybe i will buy it

[paper sail]

It's horrible

I meant it too lol

[lost topaz]

Yea I manage to get some in thanks to doot/omni procs, but more reliance on atoms for me.

[violet totem]

im about to resample, wish me luck

[lost topaz]

jesus need to see them gains

[paper sail]

Sucks that you will probably lose total output for a few days now lol

[violet totem]

ya for sure, but in the long run -> ATTOOOMMMSSSS $$$$

[lost topaz]

Does anyone know what causes doot to go inactive every 5 seconds for half a second on DK?

I'm sitting here with printer open as I farm some statues on wurms and the purple keeps flashing to yellow periodically

[lapis mesa]

visual bug

[bold quiver]

how big was your log sample before

[violet totem]

24.5m ._.

[bold quiver]

😮

im expecing 600M for u

[violet totem]

hehe thxs

[bold quiver]

my skull is almost at 3x also, i dont wanna lose it D:

[violet totem]

i feel you

[molten cairn]

larry to 1100 asap

[lost topaz]

easy enough tyty!

[tidal sky]

idk i would focus on main stat bubble at least to 2k so you can boost your print, and also print focused bubbles i see you have a couple that are not on at least 80% of total yet, and maybe quickslap for maestro dmg

[molten cairn]

wouldn't do main stats with atoms, you'll be able to print them soon enough

[bold quiver]

i did main stats until 1k for wisdom ;[

its pretty much a waste of time tho

good for samples tho, tough call

[zealous niche]

I miss BigMac’s analysis bot, is there another tool we could use for that?

[molten cairn]

bubble 2 is better for samples unless you already have 90% with it

[vagrant mountain]

what did the analysis bot do?

[signal osprey]

It looked at your IE and collected data on bubbles, stamps, meals etc and then compared it to other accounts it has scanned to give a sort of ranking that can show you areas you are lacking

[fast grail]

Not that i know of, tried to look and see if he had a github of it but couldnt ever find it. Will have to wait until someone gets annoyed/bored enough to make another similar one

[bold quiver]

complex stuff and hardwork

[fast grail]

With no IE leaders, and no bot, kinda hard to tell where people are at in the ranking of the game

[signal osprey]

I don't need a ranking though. Just make big number bigger

[fast grail]

📈

numbers go brrr

[bold quiver]

how can u make bigger numbers if the 3D print screen is limited at 1050M

if its not showing its not real

[molten cairn]

you'd think he'd have in game leaderboards to incentivise people to buy doot

[bold quiver]

huge, daily atom production leaderboard

[vagrant mountain]

isn't this similar to the heat map on the alchemy maximization google doc but with player comparisons

[signal osprey]

What about 3D prints are limited?

[bold quiver]

the screen value, isnt it capped at 1050m?

[signal osprey]

Kinda yeah but it covered a lot more than just bubbles

[bold quiver]

not the print themselves, but the value being shown

[molten cairn]

no, that's just storage space

[signal osprey]

Mine shows just fine

[vagrant mountain]

oh I see, like stamps n meals?

[bold quiver]

oh rly? i asked that a while ago and someone said the 3d print didnt show above 1050M

person must have mistaken for storage slot then

[signal osprey]

People say a lot of things in this discord

[bold quiver]

yeah i remember that at the time i was sad and even lost the motivation to print over 1B

[vagrant mountain]

this discord is a fever dream sometimes

[signal osprey]

Statistically speaking that person probably doesnt even have a 1b sample to speak from experience

[bold quiver]

yeah thats prob 100% the case

now i have motivation to resample guuys!

[signal osprey]

I should consider resampling soon too but theres still so much more to be done

Too many things to be farmed

[molten cairn]

too many statues to farm

[bold quiver]

too many bubbles to lvl

its an infinite cycle of never resampling again

[signal osprey]

I'll probably wait until I finish 99% on severapurple because that sounds cool

[bold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/anya-gif-25682853

[signal osprey]

Still got another 1k levels to go but this bad boy is gonna be my first hard capped bubble to actually reach hard cap

[bold quiver]

dear lord, is that a 2h hourly click?

[signal osprey]

Hourly

[bold quiver]

huge

[molten cairn]

mines up to 1300, I wondered where to stop with it

[signal osprey]

2970 for 99%

[tidal sky]

finally I'm going for the last one...

[signal osprey]

Or you could keep going if you wanna be a chad like zelb. His is almost 5k lol

[molten cairn]

zelb's too good, no point keeping up with him

[signal osprey]

Yeah but he is right in the sense that 99% technically isnt the cap. There is still more you could squeeze out

[vagrant mountain]

just get zelb's little brother to work for you too

[signal osprey]

I'm probably stopping at 99 though just to free up warrior printing slots to do fish bubbles

[tidal sky]

mathematically wouldn't you get more by leveling the other bubbles at that point?

[molten cairn]

there's not really an opportunity cost

[amber dagger]

Do cauldrons max at 120?

[signal osprey]

Hourly clicks are sort of free as long as you have the resources and the willingness to do them

[molten cairn]

1 printer slot is the cost

[tidal sky]

that is true

[vagrant mountain]

just reminded me I have no more liquid

[molten cairn]

permanent feeling

[signal osprey]

And mining specifically only has 6 bubbles anyway so a 3 warrior account could give a slot to each ore if you wanted to

[tidal sky]

to do a bunch of hourly clicks you just get multiples stacks on ur storage?

[signal osprey]

No point in multiple stacks because the printer deposits all resources into the first stack anyway

[tidal sky]

so it is just 1?

[molten cairn]

you claim all 9 afks every hour for doot procs

overall average 2.5x clicks an hour

[pearl cedar]

This is a valid reason for 3 warrior 4 mage setup

[tidal sky]

sounds like a chore, i dont know if i will do that in the future lol

[molten cairn]

it is, I don't go all in on it

just when I have the time

[rare mist]

how to get 10m resource print in world 5

[signal osprey]

Yeah its not for everyone but its by far the best way to get the big gains

[rare mist]

i just got in world 5 1 week ago

[molten cairn]

I did it for about 3 weeks religiously but it starts to eat your day too much

[pearl cedar]

Yeah hourly clicks in general is a pain, but hourly omni cycling is way worse

[fast grail]

Its not too bad when you either work from home or have a job where you can play idleon at the same time as working

[tidal sky]

then u probably need to work on all the bonus from the previous worlds and alchemy

[rare mist]

ok

[molten cairn]

I found if I got on to do the regular hourly I couldn't keep myself from doing the doot abuse lol

[pearl cedar]

Finally my vman can have good damage

[signal osprey]

Anyone know the level for +12 on ES? Wondering how many pearls I need to save up

[molten cairn]

only do hourlys in the evenings now

[pearl cedar]

I think it is like 540 something

[signal osprey]

Oh thats not nearly as bad as I expected

I was fully prepared for like 600 lol

[fast grail]

Think its 594

[pearl cedar]

Oh well nvm

[signal osprey]

I like buddhas answer more

[fast grail]

#endgame-gen-chat message

[pearl cedar]

Lol

[fast grail]

post from eg a while back he mentioned a few of the levels

[pearl cedar]

What does Eg know, they quit and are noobs

[signal osprey]

Well I guess I'm gonna be saving pearls for a long time

Although honestly by the time I get the pearls we'll probably be close to W6 anyway

[pearl cedar]

Prob best to just elite swap a bubo

[signal osprey]

That could be an option if we ever get swaps back

[molten cairn]

then you can sit and lvl GT the whole time

[fast grail]

Or just wait until w6 when we are getting 1000x the exp we are getting now

[pearl cedar]

But 594 on bubo means you have to go back to GT for awhile

[vagrant mountain]

I wish I bought a bunch when it was in shop just to level up my BB/BM ._.

[pearl cedar]

Yeah I regret only buying 1

[signal osprey]

Honestly I'll probably save pearls and wait until we get W6 exp and then use all the pearls to push a bubo to +13 and class swap them

[molten cairn]

didn't realize they'd be useful tbh

[pearl cedar]

Class swaps have always been useful to maximize gains

[tidal sky]

which pearl the holy pearl?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[molten cairn]

from skull shop

[tidal sky]

is that exp always a fixed amount based on ur lvl? like 20%?

[molten cairn]

yep

[signal osprey]

10% of a level per pearl

[tidal sky]

interesting

[molten cairn]

shop basically gives 2-3 lvls per week depending on the room

[tidal sky]

i only have 200, 20 lvls then

[pearl cedar]

I just want lava to buff div pearls

[vagrant mountain]

I wish a lava would

[molten cairn]

yeah now that we all have a ton of them lol

idk doots probably strong enough as is

[pearl cedar]

Nerf and buff, scale the exp down but let it go to lvl 100+

[vagrant mountain]

we want more juice

[molten cairn]

we want the cooking lvls

[tidal sky]

i just want a obol preset so we could swap quickly, i guess i will make a second personal pop obol just for the second page, so i dont need to swap between pages

[pearl cedar]

I just dont want to click 30k balloons tbh

[violet totem]

from this to this : not bad

[molten cairn]

is balloon worth taking on PO box?

[signal osprey]

I only get whatever balloons come with the tickets

[molten cairn]

I'm printing everything for that box

[signal osprey]

Yeah but the balloons arent that great anyway

[pearl cedar]

God I really need to resample

[molten cairn]

feel like pens is actually becoming the bottleneck

[signal osprey]

Realistically if you want to push cooking levels its going to come mostly from running a ton of colo

The PO6 balloons wont add a whole lot

[molten cairn]

yeah ik it wouldn't be much, but if pens are the bottleneck they're basically free

tbh the real bottleneck is my will to click on that thing, I should just take the balloons too lol

[pearl cedar]

35 more hours and I can get off my BB forever

[molten cairn]

doot shroom?

[pearl cedar]

Dont realize how slow 11 days are until you're not doing anything productive in game

[molten cairn]

i have to do that at some point before next cook

tired of always bubo/dk anyways

[signal osprey]

I'm not even gonna think about doing that until W2 kill ring comes back

[pearl cedar]

It is uh maybe worth it I guess? Lol

[molten cairn]

games better when you're using more ppl active imo

[pearl cedar]

I mean 10% more ladle worth, so only like 110 days worth of ladles to make it worth it

[molten cairn]

its not about worth it

[pearl cedar]

2nd w2 ring would help a little but still gonna be like a week straight of nothing important

Only reason I'm doing it is for the flex tbh

[molten cairn]

only reason to do anything endgame

[signal osprey]

I dont even have the first kill ring is my big concern. I want to at least have one of them

It'll happen after the next time I candy gmush

I dont have much candy right now

[molten cairn]

I just went to 150B gmush kills getting iron vial done, it'll be next patch

[signal osprey]

Your sacrifice is appreciated

[pearl cedar]

I haven't candied gmush in so long

[fast grail]

No shot, finally got an upgrade to IS chains

[pearl cedar]

I did my big push in February 😂

[molten cairn]

it was finally time after vaporizing those 600M bars

[pearl cedar]

13k hours of candy at 3.7m gmush/hr 🇫

[molten cairn]

oof

I mean at the time...

[pearl cedar]

Yeah at the time it was pretty much as high as you could get. Who knew we would 6x our gains

[molten cairn]

I still have all of my big candies, maybe I'll just send it

[pearl cedar]

12% to shitty%

[molten cairn]

get some dreadlo bars for pointless cooking speed too lmao

That's Lava

[fast grail]

I was probably the one who got the single most fucked by the IS chains

[pearl cedar]

Lol what you get like a 6%?

[fast grail]

2 5% and 1 6%

[pearl cedar]

I

[fast grail]

So many people didnt even know that 5% was possible

[pearl cedar]

I dont remember all my chains, I know I have an 11% but then I have a 10% regular chain I use

Think my other IS ones are like 7 and 9

[signal osprey]

I was still a newer player when iOS dropped so I didnt even get any chains because I didnt know any better

[pearl cedar]

Better than spending money on 2 5s and a 6

[signal osprey]

[pearl cedar]

Oh camp, got 40 shimmer at 306k def but I guess it could have been rounded

It was a pain had to farm 4 sparkle def obols

[fast grail]

ahhh nice, guess thats good for others to know if pushing

Wonder if my bubo can reach 300k then

[pearl cedar]

Maybe my fmj only like 850

[fast grail]

ah, slight correction to my chains. 1 5% and 2 6%

[pearl cedar]

At least you got a yellow one for slab

[fast grail]

Yeah, 3 different ones for slab is the only good thing out of it

[pearl cedar]

I got 2 blues and a red

[rough wasp]

I never got an afk keychain 🙂

[edgy tusk]

Is there a certain evolve chance I wanna hit before I start really trying for the 6th evolutions?

In gaming*

[vagrant mountain]

is that Chem?

[crisp silo]

Damn thats nice chains

[fast grail]

For IS chains, the are quite literally some of the worse in existance. They rolled from 5%-12%

[pearl cedar]

.1% or less

[hidden grove]

https://kuroooooooooo.idleonefficiency.com/

I mostly want to know what bubble to focus on damage because its really sad rn but any other tips would be great

[vagrant mountain]

unlock them all lol

[pearl cedar]

Bubbles wont help that

[fast grail]

stamps bad, alchemy

[pearl cedar]

Do your stamps

[crisp silo]

Buddy is too low in everything

[pearl cedar]

Quick roast

[vagrant mountain]

second IE I've seen in this chat today with 900~ stamp lol

[fast grail]

please go back to first island in sailing and get the artifact that gives +artifact find chance

[crisp silo]

Lmao bro is printing the wrong fish amt

[edgy tusk]

I meant the 6th stage. I just unlocked it in the super bits. They have a 19.2% chance to evolve each growth cycle atm. Idk if that's enough to stop picking plants for a couple days

[hidden grove]

what stamps in particular

[vagrant mountain]

oops misread it the first time, you only go for T6 plants when your snail gets merked

[fast grail]

All of them

[pearl cedar]

Bruh all of them

[edgy tusk]

Oh, I just unlocked him today

[crisp silo]

Click highlight stamps

Do the green ones

[edgy tusk]

So I have 3 days anyway. Should I just try until then?

[crisp silo]

Ok and maybe unlock them all

Or at least try to unlock more stamps

It also seems buddy has a broken lab

[edgy tusk]

And should I keep all of one plant to get it or a few if each to try for all of them? Just trying to increase bit gain a bit

[pearl cedar]

You are in w5?

[crisp silo]

It seems he has sailing unlocked

With <1k stamp lvls

💀

[vagrant mountain]

nah, there will be a time when your snail resets and there will be a couple weeks where the plants you pick will give negligible bits compared to your upgrade costs

[hidden grove]

yeah

[pearl cedar]

Looks like you rushed w5 which is fine, but now it is time to go back to w1-4 and play the game

[edgy tusk]

OK, thanks for the advice. Do I always wanna wait for the 5th stage before picking? And should I always have the rock on?

[pearl cedar]

If you want to hit t5+ plants rock always on

[fast grail]

something that trickz post about backtracking:

https://i.imgur.com/c1RhPXA.png

[vagrant mountain]

keep rock on if you can check gaming several times a day. don't need to wait for T5 to pick, generally you just play around Chem and log

[pearl cedar]

People complain about guide being missing. But Tricks has posted more info than guide ever had

[signal osprey]

We need something to complain about

[edgy tusk]

I still haven't gotten Chem to unlock. Been trying at .1-.2% for weeks. Maybe months now

[pearl cedar]

The smart play is to have rock on and just click harvest all

[vagrant mountain]

can't tell if serious

[vagrant mountain]

just research Chem whenever it lights up / whenever you remember

[pearl cedar]

Chem log loops are the worst

[vagrant mountain]

they're the reason I neglect gaming 😀

[fast grail]

Trickz truly just is the new guide

[pearl cedar]

That's why god made harvest all

[vagrant mountain]

watch it, don't want to make lava's ego even bigger

[edgy tusk]

Sorry, one last question. Earlier u read that I should work on all the green highlighted stamps on IE. It has one as green but I can't hold 26m green mushroom caps

I read*

[pearl cedar]

Then make a good bag and give it to your vman

[edgy tusk]

I just don't know why it would highlight it if I can't currently do it

[pearl cedar]

Are you sure you can't

Doesn't it tell you which char you can do it on

[signal osprey]

Yeah if you hover over a stamp it will tell you the capacity required as well as which character has the highest capacity for that item

[edgy tusk]

Nvm, it hadn't caught up that I had used my gilded stamp lol.

[hidden grove]

mfw when it took 7 months for w5

anyways stamp the hoe up ez pz

[tacit kelp]

!genshop

!gemshop

[dapper prism]

For starters, use #bot-commands
secondly thats a terrible list, use:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738868424813445172/1103690013125902336/tonysgemshoptierlistv4.png

[tacit kelp]

Why is liquid cauldron 1 in s tier?

[mild merlin]

Because liquids are a huge bottleneck for alchemy

[gray thicket]

Hey, pssst

[mild merlin]

And the first is rather inexpensive

[gray thicket]

Should I keep chizoar helmet or make troll helmet

[mild merlin]

Prolly troll for all stat

[gray thicket]

Awesome, thanks

[fast grail]

buddha, have you checked what your catching samples would be if you sampled recently?

[pearl cedar]

Oh well no offence meant, but overall looks like the reason it took so long for you to get w5 is overall account neglect. Just fix up your stamps upgrade any alchemy bubble that can be done

[pearl cedar]

Nah not in awhile will check again sometime soon. Got a few more things I want do before sampling

Aka putting it off as long as I can

Though vman can get 70 catch/min now

[fast grail]

No one really samples catching so idk if this is worth to sample on in case i am missing something big

[hidden grove]

what does a broken lab mean

[gray thicket]

I thought having 3mil efficiency was a lot

[pearl cedar]

Yeah no idea, my sample from like 3 months ago was 4mil fruit flies

[fast grail]

Same, current fruit flies sample is a little over 4m

[junior arrow]

i mean its hard to tell if thats good or not for your account based on that afk window alone

[mild merlin]

Probably having a lab setup which ignores alot of important nodes/jewels

[junior arrow]

but if its an improvement then go for it i guess. no reason not to have some catching samples

[gray thicket]

May I ask what your multi catching bubble level is at

[fast grail]

I'd say I am decently up there in accounts, at least have like 50-70% of what the extreme endgame people have. But no data on catching

[fast grail]

past the 300% threshold for a long while, bubble is close to 250, but doesnt give anything past like 180ish

[wind umbra]

idk if this helps or not but this is my fruit fly samples i did a few days ago

[gray thicket]

That's more information than what I asked for, you're the best

I don't have to find out the hard way now

[pearl cedar]

Yeah I dont think you're gonna get much higher than that, what star signs you using?

[void hawk]

does this stay active if I unlink from snake god?

[gray thicket]

Me?

[pearl cedar]

Nah Camp

[gray thicket]

[fast grail]

food effect, both skill afk%

[pearl cedar]

Hmm 2%afk better than 5% eff?

[fast grail]

just barely yep

even lose a tier, but afk just barely comes up better

[pearl cedar]

Hmm interesting, catching is weird

[void hawk]

so since I got second god, I can go to lab and I still gonna get divinity?

[glossy pagoda]

how do I double link

[void hawk]

like can I get out of meditation?

[mild merlin]

Don't go to lav

Stay in divinity

[glossy pagoda]

no it means you can be in the lab without being there

[gray thicket]

I have the exact same question

[mild merlin]

You're confusing it with goat probably

[glossy pagoda]

yeah cause my ES talent had smth talking about a 2nd link and it says "no double linking 2nd link"

what does that mean

[mild merlin]

The talent

[void hawk]

oh so I guess back to prison 😄

[mild merlin]

Which allows your es to have 2nd link

You can't have 2 of the same gods active so I assume that's why

[void hawk]

I want to play the game

[mild merlin]

You can get some PPL out of div jail if you wanna tho

[glossy pagoda]

how do I link for a second time then?

all the gods just say unlink

[void hawk]

I just want to get div levels equally on all chars

[fast grail]

Did you read the talent?

[mild merlin]

You need to unlink before linking

The ES talent on the bottom left allows 2nd link

For free

[glossy pagoda]

damn thats gonna waste a weekly unlink

[mild merlin]

Just level the talent

Or delevel it idk if it works without Omni tho

[glossy pagoda]

it says stand under omniphau to delink but i dont have that yet

[fast grail]

Your weekly unlinks reset every time you unlock a new god

[glossy pagoda]

oh

[crisp silo]

Top left mound

Just stand on it

[glossy pagoda]

bruh i just unlinked

and then linked to one of them and cant link to another

did I do it wrong

[mild merlin]

What gods do you wanna link to

And whats your current link

[glossy pagoda]

I only have the first 3

my first is linked to the snake

[mild merlin]

What other god do you wanna link to,arctis?

[glossy pagoda]

so probably the bear

yeah

[mild merlin]

Then level the talent to when it says "arctis 2nd link" or w/e

[glossy pagoda]

oh im dumb

[crisp silo]

Is this guy confused about the 2nd god link or is it smth else cause im lost

[glossy pagoda]

i didnt know i had to level it 1 by 1

i just used 16 talent points on it but luckily it landed on arctis

[crisp silo]

💀

[glossy pagoda]

i didnt know i had to level up the talent to cycle through the gods thats why I was confused

nobody told me that

[crisp silo]

All g, talents dont really indicate what u gotta do

[twin token]

Which bubbles are best for pushing damage on mages

[crisp silo]

Dmg in later game is kinda stat based

So base stats

[twin token]

There's no base stats bubble

[crisp silo]

Bubble 1

Or thats total stats

[twin token]

Those are total stat

[crisp silo]

Its one of them

[twin token]

Ye

[crisp silo]

Then bubble 2 it buffs all bubbles bonuses

And theres the slab bubble that gives stat

So it gives even more, slightly

[twin token]

Rip I can't upgrade any of the w5 bubbles really

Just the bit one and the weapon power ones

[crisp silo]

Ok so if u cant really do w5 bubbles, maybe do gear

Is your gear magma?

Krunk weapons

And try to get highest tools for the stat bonuses

[twin token]

I could go for kattle gear actually bc it's easy to make aside from magma

Can't do weapon tho bc bubo uses fistcuffa

[crisp silo]

Nah magma would give btter scaling

Eventually

[twin token]

Dr tho

I could make helmet and boots

[crisp silo]

Ah yes boots and helm is reco

Chest and legs for the afkers

[twin token]

Thing is troll armor is harder to craft than both of them lol

[wanton gazelle]

I just finished doing all my magma chest/legs, been spending most the day farming cooking clogs lol. Then onto golden twine

[versed cypress]

stat wise you will want to work on gathring the capacity to craft magma armor for you chars

also working on the dungeons to get opals is a good move to work towards as they grant a good chunk of stats

[twin token]

Oh have 1 opal and I should be able to get another next week

And I can make starfire bag so that should be enough

But I should probs just make green bag bc I can do it with that too

[vagrant mountain]

[fallen flax]

Gives me hope. I have 33k samples of snake skins, lol

[vagrant mountain]

don't get it twisted, the output is still 1m/hr, it's just my BM's sample

[lavish grotto]

Which cauldron are the divinity bubbles located from?

[obsidian nacelle]

which aspect

cause theres the yellow one to not use points and then theres the big purple one for more div exp

[lavish grotto]

Oh should go for purple to speed up divinity, got it

[opaque sun]

There isnt one to directly speed up the offerings, but the purple div exp very very indirectly speeds it up i guess

[lavish grotto]

Need to get to level 40 divinity on all characters, they have been meditating for like 2-3 weeks straight

Also I’m guessing nowhere to check double afk exp double chance right

[vagrant mountain]

IE

[lavish grotto]

IE should be linked somewhere in the actual game

[oak hemlock]

Guys,what gives me this dps?

[eternal wasp]

When can I unlock the first god?

[signal lava]

start the town npc's quest like all the worlds

it has you do it

[outer prism]

You sit in the altar there and you get divinity points then you can get gods

[eternal wasp]

Should I try in an hour or later?

[mild merlin]

Doing left one till 100% shows up on right one is a good strat plus if you're lucky enough you may even get it with the left one

[wise smelt]

Guys there is pic for 130-140 wave in w3 worship?

[opaque sun]

Expected cost-wise it doesnt matter too much if you aim for 100% or just gamble with whatever

Its more of choosing the way that least deals psychological damage to you

[sleek tree]

little boxes everywhere

[rough wasp]

I need to do that too

[white sphinx]

Can regrow timer get down to 1 min or lower?

[rough wasp]

1% till 100 or 50

[eternal wasp]

Alright

Should I try unlocking only on es?

[weary sonnet]

Guys! How do you distribute 11 characters?
For example:
3 archers
3 warriors
3 magicians
And what are the subclasses?

[white sphinx]

11? or 10?

[rough wasp]

idk. but i ended up divinity slaving like most of my chars for a while

[weary sonnet]

Sorry, 10*

[white sphinx]

is pretty much one of each for the 7, then Barb again for fishing, Bubo for more Cauldron, I dont remember which of the 2 archers is better, maybe SB for more Catching gains. I chose 3 Vman honestly. Cant go wrong with 3 printer go Brrrrts get like 1-3 days of extra prints.

you heard me. printer go Brrrt!

[eager sedge]

U could go 2 squire 1 barb 2 wizard 1 shaman 2 bowman 1hunter and ofc one vman

[eternal wasp]

I failed at 1%

[eager sedge]

We all do

[eternal wasp]

Now it's 5%

[eager sedge]

Tip:click on the left one till the right one says 100% and save for that

[weary sonnet]

Why 2 wizards?

[eager sedge]

Samples

[boreal scaffold]

Well guess what, 2 vman

[eager sedge]

Wizard will always sample more oak than bubo

[eternal wasp]

Right and left? What you mean?

[eager sedge]

• 2 bubo is uselles u only active one of them

[eager sedge]

The left offering that says 1% and 5% u click that till the right offering where it can say 15% 25% etc it says 100% to have a guaranteed chance to unlock that s the safest way

[eternal wasp]

Aaaah kkkkk got it

[eager sedge]

But u can do it however u want that s just one way to do it

[vagrant mountain]

what makes ES samples bigger than Bubo? my bubo has my biggest log samples lol

[eager sedge]

U have doot right?

[vagrant mountain]

yes

all of the chopping related talents reside in the Mage talent tab

[eager sedge]

ok since most people don t have doot,es offers a second link bet u know that,that makes es sample bigger than bubo for dootless people since u can link to actis and be on snake at same time

[weary sonnet]

I see there is a discussion between
2 wizards and 2 archchemists.

[eager sedge]

Thay s just the recommendation since doot is rare,ofc u can choose whicever class u want that s just an example of what u could do

[weary sonnet]

It's just that I haven't yet made a powerful argument in favor of 2 magicians.

[vagrant mountain]

that's a good point, Ive had doot since W3 so the I've never linked a character except for aeathetics

[eager sedge]

Make sure to have a purmeup link tho haha

[fossil urchin]

yeah, 2 ES means you can have at least one linked to lab and bunny for 4x or whatever samples

[eager sedge]

but yeah for people that have doot 2 bubo is the better choice since bubo lvl's faster than es= easy 5000 family lvl

[vagrant mountain]

basically 2 ES 1 Bubo if you don't have doot and I'd rather have 1ES 2Bubo with doot

[wise smelt]

Guys there is pic for 130-140 wave in w3 worship?

[eager sedge]

Also for the 2 barbarian/berseker that s uselles the argument of making more ladles is stupid too since late-end game people make 90% of ladles from farming coloseum which is faster and better than just letting gordon ramsey cooking

[fossil urchin]

i had 2 bubo, 1 es originally, but when w5 came out just having that extra link for lab or bunny or whatever was 100x better than 2 bubo which you can only do one active anyway... so once the 2nd job class came out i changed it

[eager sedge]

2 sb's can help with bar vials which are a pain,can help early-mid and even late smelting bars faster + farming deathnote faster

[fossil urchin]

then companions came out... but i doubt ill get doot anytime soon anyway, so it was still a good idea for me

[eager sedge]

i have 2 bubo too and no doot waiting for either to get free doot or swap elite token

[half sparrow]

Doot meaning hiddent boss w2? Or other doot?

[vagrant mountain]

#endgame-gen-chat message

[eager sedge]

the companion

[half sparrow]

Owh

[eager sedge]

He gives a bonus that s just game changing

[wise smelt]

thanks a lot))

[vagrant mountain]

np, shoutout to pancake

[hollow wasp]

do anyyone has the gemshop tierlist again? i think its wasted having 12k gems

what do i buy now

[zealous niche]

Seasalt for sure

[hollow wasp]

aight ty

[half sparrow]

Vman upgrade for chow, my bb seems not functioning

It show 0, but already kill gmush 100m+++

[hollow wasp]

lol what is this XP/H on seasalt island

[zealous niche]

100m kills of gmush on BB?

[weary sonnet]

What parameter is boring to look at so that there are more crystal monsters?

[zealous niche]

Overall is irrelevant for super chow

[zealous niche]

I have no idea what you’re asking for

What part of the game is boring related to crystal mobs?

Watching DK just smack crystal mobs for hours would be boring

[weary sonnet]

In which locations do multikill appear more or influence?

[rough wasp]

its great

[zealous niche]

Multikill is based off the original mob’s HP and how much your damage is over them

So changing location changes base mob hp

[weary sonnet]

For example, I have Vman every 30 seconds, knocks out crystal monsters in the first location, 1 world, name all cards on crystal mobs and 98k kills per hour

[half sparrow]

Yes my bb card shown 100m kill already

[zealous niche]

Are you asking where to kill crystal mobs easier?

[weary sonnet]

Yep , and that there are many of them*

[zealous niche]

W1 Beans are good, the bull frogs can be nice for pop obols too, sticks for woodular circles too.

W2 sandy pots are good because you also need lots of sand shards, snelbies are good overall

W3 bloodbones or rams are good

W4 heard clammies are good

W5 final mob is good for the extra exp and money too

If you’re wanting to farm crystal mobs the choc chip is essential though

[fossil urchin]

pretty sure he's asking how to increase their spawn rate, too

[pine pond]

not required but yes it helps

[zealous niche]

Don’t bother with farming crystals without it since it’s much worse

[pine pond]

lol

you can farm them if you want

[zealous niche]

Not required but better off farming elsewhere for your account

[pine pond]

but i wouldnt try for onyx statues without it

crystal still the best exp overall

[zealous niche]

You can always do parts of this game more inefficiently yes

[weary sonnet]

Thank you for the detailed answer!

[zealous niche]

Remember to use your cards, choc chip, upgrade your stamps

While vman has a talent for spawning crystals, you’re better off using another class with respawn due to the volume of kills. Divine Knight is a favourite

[pine pond]

ES op tho 😛

[zealous niche]

Any class with respawn works for different things, I’ve found the shockwave from DK is quite effective for crystal farming

Haven’t done bubo for a while though

They could be good due to gas I’d imagine

ES gets bogged down with portal mobs

[pine pond]

DK the best statue farming overall

bubo is the best at crystals due to the high respawn rate of mobs

[zealous niche]

Ahh, good to know

[pine pond]

bubo -> DK -> ES for crystal farming

[zealous niche]

And then SB off in the naughty corner to think about its life choices

[pine pond]

SB is pretty great

[safe tangle]

How long did it take use to onyx w5 statues

[pine pond]

wait wym?

[safe tangle]

Collect 20k statues for each 3

[pine pond]

ah

on average a day - 3 days

is what ive experienced

[safe tangle]

Not bad

[pine pond]

but theres still multiple factors that play

depending on the crystal spawn chance

were this took me about 8 hours or so to finish w5

probably less

[safe tangle]

Yeah mine needs work 1/37 dk

What dr did u have

[pine pond]

19

wait 20

nah 19

hopefully 5 levels overnight

[weary sonnet]

And how to write emoticons in the game?

[mild merlin]

> for sadface and # for happy I believe

[stoic silo]

^ for sadface

[gray thicket]

@pine pond Hello there

cutie pie

[obsidian nacelle]

there any way to filter out crystal stamp?

[willow sorrel]

finish the quest

[pine pond]

oh hi qt

[pine pond]

wait who are you

[obsidian nacelle]

forgot that was a thing ty

[hardy bloom]

is dk better in pop obol farming or should i es

[exotic juniper]

finally got this eldritch

[exotic juniper]

es is better if just looking for pop

[hardy bloom]

thank you

[hearty shore]

What's better as far as gems 5 star cardifier, lava sprouts (1), golden sprinklers(1), slugs(1), richlein kitchen (already have 5), or something else?

[noble mesa]

Es is better for base mat (first pagh)
Dk is better for raer drop

[eternal wasp]

How to increase divinity exp and efficiency? I just started w5

[eager sedge]

Can t increase efficiency

[eternal wasp]

Guess I'm stuck with 1 point per hour then

And experience?

[eager sedge]

Is rough till u get mantra

[hearty shore]

Yeah you got to get through the levels until you can more stances

[eager sedge]

Tbh idk other than es talent maybe some artifacts or smthing

[eternal wasp]

I failed so many 1% that it went to 100%

[eager sedge]

Nice save for that

[eternal wasp]

Yeah, will take another 10 hours though

[eager sedge]

yeah its very time gated

[dapper prism]

Thats the normal way of doing it, fail left side till a 100% spawns

[zenith nova]

Just got to rift lvl 6, so got the 24hr trapping collection

What's the best way to set up my traps? Who should be placing them? Who should get exp?

[dapper prism]

Still same as without that rift

[zenith nova]

I've no doubt been doing it wrong even up to now tbh haha, what's the advice?

I have vman

[pulsar cliff]

Beastmaster places all traps except VMans, Vman places their own

[dapper prism]

Royal 10h (or if you dont do it manually a day) then 40h for critters
Nature 20h for XP

[eager sedge]

place them with hunter on every1 and one trap for exp with vman,vman full exp using the talent

[dapper prism]

Place critter traps with BM.
Place xp traps with vman

[pulsar cliff]

I personally do natural traps (Or whatever has the 0 QTY all exp) for VMan

I'm gonna stop cause Trickz is typing way faster than me and I just woke up so everything that Trickz is saying

[dapper prism]

I prefer to just do few days pure xp kinda thing to reach certain levels. Then pure critters on all. (vman always xp)

[zenith nova]

I always get this wrong, do the chars who don't set traps get exp when collected?

Who should collect

[dapper prism]

Bm ability collects it either way for simplicity.
Everyone gets their own xp.

[zealous niche]

If I use the BM to set a trap for my Bubo, the trap quantities and exp are calculated from the BM, but when they’re collected the shiny rate is calculated from the one that collected them and the Bubo will get the exp in this example

[elder portal]

2 hours is the cap for sailing time?

[pulsar cliff]

Natural min? Yes

Not really a cap/

[zealous niche]

The siege breaker family bonus decreases minimum sailing time

The soft cap is about 100 mins

[elder portal]

oh i see
thanks

[zealous niche]

It will still display as 2 hrs on the map though

Also means the speed to ‘max’ the final island is about 60M in case you’re wondering

[old portal]

whats the tldr to do onyx statues? i need 200k power statue for all 10 chars right?

[sharp wind]

In total, how many mobs BB can superchow? (Exclude the doot gmush etc)

From gmush to wurms

[dapper prism]

Think same as Chow, 69, although realisticly 68 since boop isn't really realistic atm. Unless im missing something. Toolbox should show them on the apocalypse page

[sharp wind]

Eh why im only 66

[dapper prism]

and you checked toolbox?

Oh wait, chow would be 70 with boop btw

Not sure how the Sand giant is at king doot. Which would make chow 71?

[sharp wind]

I checked from skill

Let me check from my card

All mob card is 100m already

[sick sentinel]

There are a few extra that toolbox shows like trickz is saying. The solo nutto at acorn td, poops in dr defecus room, rift, and invisible green mush in doot room

And boops yeah

[pale tusk]

Is it wrong to try to get the 5th plant evolution for the multiplier? I've been waiting for weeks but not one of my plants evolved to 5th stage. I got the upgrade that enables 5th stage of course.

[sick sentinel]

Not worth to push for it without chems/logs rly

[sharp wind]

I mean exclude all the extras how many mobs in total?

[pale tusk]

Those are later plant mutations?

[sharp wind]

Rn i got 66, is that the correct number of mobs in total?

[pale tusk]

Alright, guess I'll just harvest those plants. Feels bad after waiting for a month to give up now haha

[peak spruce]

You should be able to buy new stuff under the "import" section aswell

[sick sentinel]

My b i didnt scroll up, 66 sounds right

[sharp wind]

Alright thanks

[pale tusk]

I'm still far away from the second import. Can get a few b right now with the kitsune costing 1.5Q.

[peak spruce]

look througz the other boxes

they aren't in the correct order

[pale tusk]

Oh wow, I never realised... Time to get those first I guess haha

[exotic saffron]

Hey guys in fractal island I'm afking as fishing... How do I change that?

[solid edge]

Candy still works for me like that

[exotic saffron]

Ye... I wasted a 12h candy like that and won 0 nothing hours...

At least I got some fish I guess

[solid edge]

Maybe try standing right under nothing man

[exotic saffron]

Right under him

[granite grove]

cant do nothing afk in fractal island if using mobile for some reason

[exotic saffron]

Welp... That's great....

[prisma drift]

I can finally atom d chef

[eternal wasp]

Do I have to login every 3 hours to check sailing or will it stack all the chests?

[pulsar cliff]

Congrats! I spammed out a few levels and then never went back lol

[prisma drift]

It soft caps at like 1.3 right?

[pulsar cliff]

Yup

[prisma drift]

Well 1.26-1.28 gave me 1e speed

So I’ll make sure to grab that last .02

[pulsar cliff]

Level 365 is ~96% of max efficacy

[flat forge]

gzzz thats great!

[prisma drift]

767 for that last .01

Not sure if I wanna get that 1.3 anymore

[mild merlin]

Base max stack is only 5

[pulsar cliff]

Hahahahaha preeeeetty much

[prisma drift]

That’s double it’s level for .01

[mild merlin]

Increasable by gem shop and merit shop(and also an achievement)

if you're away for very very long SB's unending loot can help abit

[eternal wasp]

So I can afk 15 hours kkkkk

[pulsar cliff]

Levelling VMan summoning has pretty much tapped all of my balloons out

But catching is my last sub-level 100 vman skill so I'm exxcited about that.

Cooking doesn't count in that.

[amber dagger]

How do you have catching so high

[glad crow]

anyone got any formula or something too show the correlations between cons level and excogia and yang cogs bonuses?

[iron mesa]

Like, how it scales?

[glad crow]

ye

[swift heath]

anyone know when the next update is

havent heard anything from lava in ages

[sacred verge]

porbably a while

probably*

[teal lynx]

[sacred verge]

if he is working on w6 it will be some time

[old portal]

is 2k power statues/hr with 10 dr on dk good?

[flat forge]

id certainly say yes, a lot better than most people can achieve

[sacred verge]

good enough for onyx

[old portal]

feels so slow but okay

[flat forge]

#pleasegivemecookie

[sacred verge]

but 10 DR is not very much these days, should be able to raise it

[flat forge]

What are the best sources for dr

[sacred verge]

obols, cards

there are many sources

[flat forge]

DR cards over dmg cards?

[sacred verge]

and you need them all

yes

for farming statues 100%

no need for dmg

[flat forge]

ah well yeah i just meant generally

[sacred verge]

also midas

[flat forge]

midas?

[glad crow]

use this card layout

[sacred verge]

generally you dont want dmg cards

no point in dmg cards later on unless you do very specific stuff

[flat forge]

Thanks, i dont have the ruby rift yet so mine are all 4 star :c

[sacred verge]

DW about that

it will come

[glad crow]

how far away are you from the ruby rift?

[sacred verge]

but get your cards to 4*

[flat forge]

im at rift 31 lol, i do not think im getting 46 anytime soon

my highest dmg character only has 7000m damage, so its a stretch to even get 36

[sacred verge]

dont worry about ruby cards

worry about the easy stuff first

[flat forge]

Yessir

[glad crow]

though, do you have an excess amount of gems?

because then bying the ruby upgrades for poop and genie might be worth but im not sure

[sacred verge]

genie for sure

poop is easy to ruby

[flat forge]

all my gems are going to getting the fucking chocolate cookie chip

Because its only next in rotation in december

[sacred verge]

smart

[flat forge]

[sacred verge]

also start working on mats for december lol

better to be safe than sorry

[glad crow]

not wehen they are far away from unlocking ruby cards

[sacred verge]

alltho you can do that in a few days easy

[flat forge]

I have the mats in 10fold

Thats not a real issue

[sacred verge]

what i ment was that in you dont have tons of gems, genie is waaay more worth it as its soo much harder to ruby

[pearl quail]

I’ve never had a blue captain are they good

[glad crow]

true

[flat forge]

nvm, only in 4fold, but whatever

[sacred verge]

lol

[flat forge]

lava should really remove the entire rotation mechanic

[sacred verge]

i need the damn trophy dobler

[flat forge]

so annoying, now im locked from content unless i rng roll for it with gems

[safe gazelle]

Hi guys,i need some help.My Divine Knight don't get the effect from shrine.I place all my shrines in W5 town,i got the lab & artifact for "shrines effect all maps".DK get the bonus damage in every map from W1 to 4 but didn't get it since he step out off W5 town.All of my other characters still got full shrines effect

[sacred verge]

never get it, only one im missing

[sacred verge]

its not the shrines

[flat forge]

you'd use it for vman or what?

[sacred verge]

samples with IS trophy

[flat forge]

IS?

[glad crow]

idle skilling trophy, the BiS trophy for sampling

[flat forge]

oooooo yeah obviously, sorry

actually, speaking of which, time to log into idle skilling again

[sacred verge]

it will be in shop 30/11/2023 tho, but i dont wanto wait anymore..

[safe gazelle]

Can you explain me some more,my DK reach 14m damage but it's turn into 5m when he enter W5 farming maps

[sacred verge]

why do you think its shrines?

[teal lynx]

That's your answer

You are not above the 1.5x threshhold

So the talent deactivates

[old portal]

i completely forgot about midas for my DK farm

+1 Dr on midas not bad

[safe gazelle]

I thought about shrines in the begining cuz i just remember that thing effect to my damage through maps,completely forgot the talent.Thanks for your answer

[safe gazelle]

Thanks a lot,i forgot that talent

[teal lynx]

You should probably put your shrines into W4 Town again. You get more AFK Gains there

[safe gazelle]

Oh,really?I don't know that

Is there any chance to use candy in W5?

[teal lynx]

You probably have 4-6 people in Lab. Therefore u basically gain more xp for shrines there (Unless you got Doot)

[teal lynx]

When W6 comes out

[safe gazelle]

I take all of them out for exp farm for now XD,still got lab effect by doot .Thanks for helping me,much love.

[old portal]

what are the big DR sources? Midas/Cards/Talents/Chips

[teal lynx]

Oh you got Doot. Good for you ^^
Then W5 Town will probably be fine for you

[teal lynx]

20$ Island Pack 💀

Plunder kills

[solid epoch]

equipment gives quite a bit of DR too

divine trophy, molten wings, the fomo keychains

[old portal]

which equipments to be exact i only see lucky clover/the boots and the helmet

[solid epoch]

pirate hat

[old portal]

aight ill wait for pirate hat

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/IvecKq4.png

[old portal]

also which is better in general? wiz or pirate hat

how to get that trophy

[solid epoch]

pirate hat for DR

[old portal]

i have this no doubler tho

[solid epoch]

trophy requires NM kattle killing ability

[old portal]

how about the trophy how to get it

aight i wont do that for now

[solid epoch]

the mole NPC by the boss door has a quest to get it

[old portal]

if only 1 char can kill it is it fine

[solid epoch]

nope

[old portal]

aight ill wiki whats that quests

[solid epoch]

because u need the divine scarf

[feral whale]

its 3 tier?

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/GLj77jo.png

[old portal]

nvm then i cant get it yet

[solid epoch]

for the divine scarf u will need to beat NM kattle on like every character if i recall

[old portal]

havent started pushing w5 for all cahrs since doing other stuff for printing

aight time to candy fishing for all chars so i can start pushing again

[cursive forge]

this is super good for me rn right

but should I buy it cause it kinda expensive

[old portal]

not really good cloud discover is meh

[cursive forge]

ye I know I want speed + loot

but look at my captains now haha

then Ill not buy

[old portal]

then whats the point of you sending the cloud and loot value?

but i guess you can replace ur first one to that new one

[gray thicket]

Hi, sorry, hadn't slept in 24+ hours and happened to see that your PFP had the part that's missing from mine

[hollow osprey]

got goat rn with first 1% lmao

[old portal]

why is my candy and afk chart different?

from xp

[pure ember]

Probably bc you don't have 30m efficiency?

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/Gi2bK6b.png

[old portal]

how is that relevant when my afk chart says is 12m xp but i get 9m on a candy?

[solid epoch]

fishing shows exp/hr based on if u were to get all the fish

[old portal]

aight maybe that 4th fish it is

ow okaty

time to remove my prayer

[solid epoch]

yeah def worth swapping ur prayer

[old portal]

aight i got 24m now idk how

iam soo confused right now

[solid epoch]

oh yeah btw i think if u improve ur purple% odds u will get more exp

[old portal]

aight ill do that to my next few chars for lvl 75 fishing

i need to push w5 on all chars to get trophy right?

[solid epoch]

yep

https://i.imgur.com/t37bEuO.png

almost at my cap for golden nomwiches

gonna have to raise that somehow

[hollow osprey]

damn what how

[old portal]

aight thanks shouldnt be that hard

[solid epoch]

thats pretty much my entire stock on one character, the other chars have like 5k

use it for my active character

[old portal]

pushing with this on my weakest char

[hollow osprey]

how to get such high carry space

[flint belfry]

what do you think about this ? (Post Office Box)

Found on wiki page

[spare sigil]

does ES's blackhole affect card drop rate?

[solid epoch]

apart from the molten food pouch thing i think its just stamps

[hollow osprey]

active ES best man for farming cards

except bosses

[sacred verge]

prayer for carrycap

[solid epoch]

that too yeah

[sacred verge]

rucksack

[solid epoch]

that helps a lot

[hollow osprey]

oh really there is one?

my TD sucks

[sacred verge]

without it carrycap sucks 😛

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/2R3bMgp.png

[hollow osprey]

actually a german word

i like that

[old portal]

would putting a rod increase my exp gains when iam at max eff?

[upbeat trout]

does normal drop rate affect card drop rate ?

[hollow osprey]

true

im glad that i have ram

[hollow osprey]

try it out but i think yes

[sacred verge]

its a bit hard to get tho

[hollow osprey]

not sure tho

[solid epoch]

probably due to the higher speed of the rod

fishing speed has like a limitless speed/hr unlike mining or chopping

so if u equip ur fishing speed boost food that will help a ton too

get ur fishing down to 1 sec per catch

it prob goes lower but doesnt display since it cant say 0.5

[hollow osprey]

you guys are talking about i thinks i have to worry about in a year

i'm happy with my fresh unlocked goat div

[solid epoch]

its already pretty easy to get down to 1/sec if u have all 3 fishing boost foods

[old portal]

so fishing speed gives more exp?

[solid epoch]

especially with onyxed feasty

yes

[old portal]

what are the 3? i only know the 2 ones

[solid epoch]

because ur catching more fish

https://i.imgur.com/QR8UOaB.png

[old portal]

aight

time to find where the hell are my candy canes

or iaccidentaly use them all out

[solid epoch]

u prob accidentally used them

[crisp silo]

[solid epoch]

i wouldnt use them for exp anyway since we have so little

but if u dont have em that sucks since they will help samples by a lot

[sacred verge]

pearls are fine for exp tho, just need to use 1 for every candy / afk session

[solid epoch]

id just use hermit cans only when candying for exp since they are easy to replenish

[old portal]

aight luckt to have it lol

[solid epoch]

yeah dont use them up save them

[sacred verge]

still 4k+ pearls will be more than enough

[old portal]

i wont bother getting them ill just get 30m eff and be done candying

[sacred verge]

dont need more than a few hundred pearls at max

when candy with boost food 1 is enough

1 food last entire afk session

[solid epoch]

yeah but if ur spamming candies then u gotta put it back in storage

i accidentally used my food up one time and now im scared to do it again lol

[sacred verge]

take out one from storage and put on

allways take out 1 by 1

bring out say 10 stacks of "1"

use 1 for every candy