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when monster drop their loot. your char being near will loot it up
Makes sense
Dang. Sounds better than nothing, but still not great tbh
12.74xDR but i could go higher i just donnt wanna swap around
and like 1:26 i think
like the event boxes, everything will be looted after a small delay, don't need to be near although your character will pick up anything it walks over
i mean Near is a big word
oh nice i have similar crystal spawn, DR about 8x
screen-large wise
i think they changed that icyfoxkiller, its now for the whole map
also outside of the screen, every 10 seconds or so
basically it loots when they drop quite quickly anyway
Oh, ok, that's pretty good. And I'm assuming it picks up everything, even things that don't go to your inventory, like obols?
yes everything
Welp, I guess all that's left is wait for December...
Sandcastle+W2 crystal drop like 8 statue
I promise that Choco will be mine
Dec. 27 lol basically Jan
make sure you have all the materials before that week starts, its quite a lot that you need
I think it was the choice when I first got chips, so I couldn't get it. It was a pain when I found out later how essential (not just useful, essential) it was.
yeah you literally get 5x more crystals
Hi u all
Wich class is best for this one?
I faild on r110 with 4870
Can't wait to greenstack on crystal cards lol
and crystals dropping statues with 30x EXP and 100x money is just so good
3.42k statue now. alright overnight farm and im goodah
ES or bubo
What statues are you getting? Just regular W2 ones or is there one that's castle specific?
well sandcastle drop book one and crystal too but that still is 2x
crystal has 8 statue drop
So need to wait like a week
Tnx
Wait, knarf, you know the best way to deposit the kapow statues, right?
Dont do like me...
i am missing trapping/bulleyes(10k left for these)
i am crying inside they are long
ya they also feel a bit uselss
hmm accuracy one not that much
i have waayy more accuracy than i need at the moment
trapping is quite good also
theres shimmer island asking for highest Accuracy possible for a good amount of shimmer ^^
ah thats true
i think my highest is like 80M
Well, good news, I have all the required materials for Choco except cheese. I'll just level it up until it costs more than 100 to do so, and then get the 100 again. Shouldn't take super long, maybe a few days, at most.
oh on dk i didnt check
just farming 20k power statues quickly so I cant get working on the 100k statue quest on bubo 🙂
vyx it will get there easily
just started doing the bubo one, yo ureminded me i have to do it on all char
Yeah I know. I think it gets past 100 to level by like, level 3, so...
haha
yeah sandcastle are VERY good for bubo
I actually once had someone tell me I should take the chip gamble in gem shop 🤣
i mean i do it sometime xD
I did! Been playing this for years and think I spent about 100 euro so far on packs
I'm inexperienced, not stupid, I know a 1 in 22 chance to get that specific chip is really bad.
I went for it and gat it on first try
I never buy games or game items, but I spent so much time in this game that I felt it was worth it
first idle that gets me to stay all this years
exactly
Yeah, unlike you guys, I can't just spend money when I want on games. I'm still just in high school, so my mom controls pretty much every aspect of my life (a detail I'm starting to get incredibly annoyed with)
i am broke
i mean Vyx, say thank you to her because she is teaching you how to manage your money ^^
haha ya thats a good thing
I don't think spending $6 on a pack will do much lol
not just once
but what if you say that to many other things ?
and do it 10 time in a week or month? thats -60
4x60 240
But I mean every aspect of my life, even the things that don't really concern her tbh
sht goes quickly trust me
my parents were pretty chill in giving me money, then I moved out and got a lot less and I had to eat fucking dry rice and cheap sauce for the last 2 weeks of the month because I was too broke, dont be like me and learn how to manage your financials 😄
i wish i had parents that helped me figure some shit out. i didnt miss anything in life but wish i had parents that actualyl cared bout me
Yeah, she spent like $70 dollars in a week on her game, I'm not that irresponsible. Yeah, I'm a dumb teenager, but I also don't like spending money.
we all say that young
til you taste the freedom to manage your own cashand earn it
then rent,food,cellphone,internetbill
^
for my part every month cost me 1380$ (no food involved)
I just bought a house, money is a lot less fun now
Tbh when I move out, I'm most likely going to be eating cheap meals so I can put more money in investments, and hopefully I'll make enough to pay bills.
Self-moemnt for me and my girl+food and im already like 600 left for a month.
definitely do that! live cheap for the first years and save a lot
then unwanted shit happen and i gotta pend more and more
I think the ratio is like, keep 60% of what you bring home, invest 40%. Might be way off though lol.
idk how the fk investment work and where to put my money
but starting this pay (every 2 week) im placing 250 on the side
same here, i have a pretty good salary but got back issues since 2 months and can only work part time now. makes things difficult
Im here for this convo , only for it w5 quastions is here
I don't either right now, but I'm going to figure it out. I should be able to find a class or something online, or maybe just get some general help from family/friends.
haha true this isnt w5 chat ;p
Oh shoot, sorry man, I got carried away, that's mb 😅
i mean if theres no one el;se typing and asking question we are free to chat so yeah
Oh, thanks lol
its fun we can cha like that
our convo went this way as we helped each other
(i helped i didnt need help xd)
im a grown man
Yeah, so that's basically my life plan lol. Hope to find a nice house, nice girl, and settle down, have a family, etc. I'm trying to plan for my future without becoming one of those people who becomes so obsessed with their future that they end up ruining it.
unless you meet someone you cant avoid but love. just stay singel save up
Me to (on age)
Not in spirit
live cheap for a year or two. you'll see start is scary but then...its joyful
best advice i can give is have fun, dont try to rush things and dont be too serious!
and take care of your back, once you turn 30 back issues might start and that shit sucks balls
imma move out with my girl soon and i'll be saving 125 a month on rent/food so 250 more in my pocket
might get a new job that pay 7$/hr more than my actual
Wdym by "can't avoid but love"?
Lol so I've heard
Well sometime we love someone for presence, for sex and all
we tend to spend for them and all but they never stay
i didnt want to fall in love or be in relationship, but this woman that i met. she just turned me upside down
im far from being an happy person
Tbh bro I just want someone I care about who cares about me
I just want a hug, screw sex
spending time here after work polaying idle saved me many time
i am giving you all these tips for you to get a nice life because i regret a lot of mine, cause im in debt and it sucks
i have 12$ for 9 days til next pay and im out of food so
Yeah, it'd be weird if I asked out the girl I've been interested in. I asked her out last year, but she rejected me. We're still really close, but I've still got feelings for her. To make things even weirder my cousin is dating her sister 😐
life is rough and everything started to cost intensely high
So go work , stop typing
vyx. honestly if i confess my love and im turned down
i just go away
i came back from work not long ago @lacker xD
Haha, I don't go away, I shut down lol
i mean i do both
It's bad -_- I wouldn't talk to my friends about it for weeks
if we do have a connection and im egtting the 'we are good friend i dont wanna lose this relation'
im just going to walk away
So good luck my man
@noble mesa start of month being paid every 2 week is really annoying honestly only reason why im short every start of month
but im going to be able to save up and clear debt slowly
what was it lacker?
is it worth to divine even if you have only got like 2/3 of the lab notes unlocked? (like speaking of: if you upload like all your chars)
What?
rumil if you got to do divinity, know that you'll spend a good amount of time there
boosting your divinity gain/level and push for gods
Especially recently. There was this other girl I was interested in. She was interested in me too. Cool. We talked about our feelings a little bit. We hung out during school. She was cool. Nice. The prettiest girl I'd ever hung out with. She said she wasn't ready for a relationship. I was cool with it. Then she started... avoiding me. I had suspicions, and then another friend confirmed: she lost her feelings for me. So, I shut down, made things worse, and now I can't look at her without it hurting. But it's ok, I'm fine, I tell her.
make sure to go low % til you get the sacrifice at 100%
@noble mesa didnt understand what you meant by 'way 2 times'
Sorry Rumil, that's from another convo, didn't mean to interrupt your question 😅
dont be sorry vyx i answered him ^^
don't worrie^^ as long as i got an answer its fine haha
whats the best method of getting the mob specific statues (trapping, worship, construction) in w3?
rumil. find a girl to do divinity for you
Yeah I know. Still, now that other people are here asking questions, I don't think I should keep talking lol.
U said u get paid every 2 wweks , so its wird , way not one time in a manth?
penguins
penguin
so its not really an active play one?
i actually just afk my whole team there and you know. get Deathnote at the same time haha
and ressources
How is your deathnote coming along Icy?
well ive got lava skulls on all mobs currently
@noble mesa in canada here, pay is every week usually, but for me its every 2 week
a few ones need more love but im bascially all lava, and i have like 4-5 1B
Nice!
Its wird
There's a lot of people who get payed biweekly
Way?
i mean. it is how it is xD
every pay you get reduced a % of your pay
Idk. I think someone once told me something along the lines of it feeling better psychologically? Cause instead of getting decent pay every week, it's the same pay doubled, but the higher number just looks nicer.
lets say i get paid 20/hr, that's for 40 a week. so 80 2 weeks. 1600 and i get removed about 15%
i get paid 1200 every two week
i dont like biweekly pay but i mean i got a nice job soo
cause theres always a deadzone where im lacking money (like now)
Just win the loto
i wish
And u be fine
If you're comfortable sharing, what is your job?
right now i am janitor in a private school
Until the government takes it all through taxes -_-
That's cool
or maybe get an apprenticeship at a workplace where my girl works, as heavy mechanic repair
I know
I am basically at base a Cook. and yeah big change for me to go in dirty area xD
Those sound like some pretty sick jobs
so fastest way to get those w3 statues is to candy??? i only get like 25 per 1h candy
25 per 1 candy is pretty much a good amount xD
get DR at max cause multikill wont help on that
Like if u win 20m
U left with like 13-15m
Depent on your cantry
afk gain/dr
if i win 20m imma give some to my dear friend
use 5mil through my life cause i dont like expensive stuff much
There was a guy who won a lottery that was worth over 1 or 2 billion, ended up getting around 600 million out of it
and then give out to community
The government sucks ass bro -_-
Yea , its like 30-40%
i mean
And he steel have 600m
when i see big loto wins andall
im not like 'oh the win is 1M' i know its like 700-800k and not 1m
should i double my dr cards or my afk gains cards?
The problem with that though, is that as regular people, out brains can't really fathom $1M. So that money leaves quicker than you expect.
Afk gain
i mean imma clear my debt and just live as i normally do. but i wont be shy to buy food and cook anyday and still work
U can go for dice and pop obel first
I think I remember that Canada winnings were tax free but I might be thinking of gameshows
Sheeeeessss
Sounds like a good way to live tbh. Now you just need the 5 mil lol.
Lol
woo up to 31 worship statues per 1h candy
i mean taxfree on winning. not on pay
lmao 72h candy gave me 2219 statues
The real problem is that winning 1 mill still only buys you like 1/2 a house
i mean doenst have to pay all at once
Oh shoot, you're right lol
and doesnt have to buy a house
paying 540 a month on rent imma stay in appartment haha
450*
Welp, I should probably get to bed. I got school in like, 4 hours.
Nice talking with you guys 😊
same should go to bed. working tomorrow
That’s 5 houses in my home town
20000:31=645.1
645.1:24=26.8 days
same here good night
For only this one
ffs
So good luck
whats some other ways to boost my afk gains
What your dr?
well i just put my pray on bc i apparently forgot it. but rn its 14.45
Yeah I'm exaggerating a bit but Canada housing still in a rough spot atm
But if u put all 10 its 10time fester
well just pray boosted to 35 statues. and all 10 what?
Farm at the saim time
*only
Lol
what card build better to make for vman speedrun to open more portal
Move speed if less then 350%
Mk
multikill per tier
what else?
with farm would be good to farm 100k statue with ES ?
im fking drunk
which map would be good to farming 100k statues with ES
I've never submitted my account for a review before. I'd really appreciate it if yall took the time to point out any low-hanging fruit or give me some goals to aim at.
Candy on dreadlo ore
get everyone done with bosses key's quest
Account was looking decent until i looked at your trapping, my god
even have 2 chars with no traps
Most of your guys are level 40+, get them better traps
Missing many many vials
3 chars that just straight up dont have anything sampled?
re-sample on your bubo, work on vials, many that you could max in like 2hrs of 3d printer, such as the jungle logs one
well not just your bubo, all those characters that havent even sampled either
Neither of your DK's have any talent points in the king of rememberce talent, so missing a ton of 3d printer multi from there
My eyes hurt 👀
You have a character with level 1 worship, no skull. So many of your people could equip better skulls
At this point.. barely even worth a review.. just take an hour and go through each tab on IE and fix things up step by step.
Multiple bubbles in w4/w5 that are level 1
The sad part is, a lot of your stuff wouldn't even be "that bad" you have 150m oak, 40m copper samples, yet ignore samples on all the other alts.
NBLB hitting easy bubbles
Thanks, I honestly forgot about trapping. I'll work on resampling in a few hours.
Anvil points
forgot about traping as well
1 year ago 
i am scared to claim
They wull turn into shiny traps
i dont remember with who to claim and what to have on him
just use bm
dont really need anything, else go to #bot-commands and type ! trapchart
or else get auto trapper rift
Idk what i just came back to in this discord tonight.. but it looks like "Ignoring content + mechanics" night xD
i did get vman tho
how do i get my drop rate more then 5x because it looks like it capped there
Thats because you are using a lab chip
It's not capped, you just wont benefit from more until you get past 5x without the chip.
Obols are a good start
You want full family of pop/dice obols, then ES and/or DK full of them too.
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what are those shiny obols they look op
what shiny?
slime
Those are gem shop stuff, irrelevant tbh
W3 and W1 tree as you need to use an ES for those anyways.
wait how do i get that rift thing
i dont see anywhere that show how to unlock it
oh found it
13 hr instant prints lets gooo
at what point are the sailors worth getting? I have 1 free boat btw
As soon as they are better than your current.
Everything is better than an empty ship btw
what about levels and such, how do I factor those in?
!it
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Toolbox gives you a warning when there is a better captain available
Divide by the level and compare the level 1 stats, or just use toolbox
levels are just flat bonus x level, as long as it is superior you should change them
Btw, avoid rare chest chance, it is utterly useless and both loot value and boat speed are your priority.
ah ok, wouldn't have known
rare chest chance as a stat mechanic is good. Just that the issue with captains are they give too few % to make a difference
Loot value gives rare chest chance too and much more than the rare chance stat
So just avoid it
Does the bribe for random events only give 1 trash?
It seems random
Rare chest is all rounder, if it gave like 5000%
Too bad its not
I wouldnt say avoid rare chest chance, its better than empty or cloud discovery, so if the other trait is like 60% loot with some rare chest trait as B, get it
I know of one people who have already got 4 from one random.
Empty is the worst, that's for sure
So it can add up pretty decent for trash/day with that birbe potentially
if you are willing to do daily of those events
Else its like 0.33 garbage a day on average if you just do the weekly
Game is open while working, and farming vial mats on ES
but yeah the weekly 0.33 trash sounds sad xD
random events needs more advanced foretelling
Not some having to rely on external sources
thats the known issue of overlap loss
you want to keep orb talent level at 267 so it doesnt overlap, or else at talent level 270-300 you are actually losing like 8 seconds worth of orb count bonus
meh im too lazy to respec
960k red bits from a tree, so close to the 1million mark
What's the best skill order for a BB fighting?
only 3 statues left to onyx....
my upgrade said that it will grows 6.5hrs on average
but after ~4.5hr afk session I went up
all 6 has grown back already
its on average
is the timer individual
i think each plant spot is on a individual timer yeah
one more step in the right direction
yeah so if u have 20 spots which is max, ud regrow fully in that time average
and it gets alot faster, mine is 8.4min atm or like 3min if i turn on kitsune
i recommend buying golden watering can and the plant spots too with any spare gems u get if u didnt already
helps progress alot
especially early game
only construction accuracy and trapping statues left and i have every character on cryosnakes. lets see how long it takes
trapping and worship for me. took about 2 days of ES for construction one for me
active that is
i literally candied the worship one. only bc i already had 4k of them so i just did it
yeah i decided to not candy them
first i decided to just wait with doing them. then a few days ago i decided to just active ES
i got about 4 days left untill im done with them all. depending a bit on how much i active ES
im gonna leave my vman active overnight so when my daily reset happens it doesnt auto claim my traps. im gonna crystal countdown between traps. trapping is my lowest at 88 sadge everything else other than alchemy is 100+ which alch is at 98 and a few bubo cc would get it there
well i have the 8 day traps up and if it auto claims all of them id get like 1 level out of it whereas if i crystal coundown between i can probably get like 5 levels or so
what im saying os that its fast to build up crystal countdown
so instead of having him active for 8 hours you can do way less time
wasting less time on vman
Grinding statue is so hard man
yeah but instead of going manually to w4 and pick them up, 75% you auto pick it when claiming 1h afk gains. thats super useful, if spread across all characters
ok
when divinity skips x hr for pet breeding is that for spices breedebillaty and eggs?
hot damn my first 100k+ 
So just got my BB with full magma, no stones used yet. I remember seeing a combo of what is consider BIS as a mix of magma and divine gear, but cant seem to find it now. what should I upgrade to divine?
for bb just do pants/chest
pants and chest divine
tyty
helm/boots only useful for active, and you are never gonna active bb unless for exp
ill probably do that once i get the bubo to 500, currently at 450 i think lol
got it, thanks!
How exactly do i get the Thicc Dummy Stats book? Ive put a couple points into it with my glimmer things
is there anything else i need to do
without and with npng. not a bad bump
npng?
no pain no gain
BB is not a great one to build dmg from my experience tho
big numbers are nice tho. all about the gains
ehhh.... maybe lol. i havent properly geared them out.
you can, but you probably shouldn't
only gear u need is alchemy
true
and that gears everyone up
im just working on getting everyone geared so I can get the 10 nightmare kattle. i can always swap this set to the dk
oof. i just realized what gear my higher lv dk is in... lol
workin towards 10T so my vman can have purple dmg too
im doing some resampling now, working on my atom gain so i can work better on alchemy. gotta get those stats up
should resample myself
its just so much pain
and work
i hate sampling so much that i went from 10 mill oak to 150 mill -.-
same, yesterday changed my goldfish sample from 37.3k to 89.8M
casual 2000x increase
same with char 8-9-10
also missing that damn trophy doubler
only chip im missing
even have the IS trophy so it sucks
No trophy doubler for divine 
what lvl towers do you think i need to beat wave 121 goblins
i know :((
Farm 20k chiz and roll chips more 
from w3 colo you mean?
first on my agenda is doing som freakin TD as i havent done it in ages and i hate it
idk its been a long time since ive done w1 TD. u will prob want to be over lvl 50 on most of them to get the atom dmg bonus id guess
ah alright, i just have storm and party over 50, kraken is almost 50 and posonic is 46 atm
thanks to Camp and the others who gave me pointers, I resampled a bit, highest log sample went up 30mil ores doubled and some mats 9-10x, still gotta work on trapping tools and skulls. will post an update again in a few hours for anyone who saw the review
which one is easier to get, zerg rush or ruck sack?
uhh i got zerg first but its been like months
alright, cus i was close on ruck sack a while ago but i just failed
not sure if i wanto risk it with goblin tho, alot of time wasted if i fail
Put it as learning experience
its more that i got other stuff i need to do aswell 😛 and its soo time consuming
sent u a DM with a vid that might help idk
tyty
Hehe I feel the same. But lately I started working on one thing at a time, and I managed to get through a lot
Almost at onyx statues and then vman
yeah im working on statues aswell 🙂 only missing two w3 now
just figured it would be smart to get TD up and running
Does anyone have the link to that guide with all skills?
I want to see best breeding fight thing with 4 pets
lol, I need to resample, since my last one was about a year ago, and replace traps.
sounds like its time for real then, lol
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
I figure, I can get more with statues, and then I can get more with some alchemy, for which I need bubo farm, and then I can get more if all my characters have good obols and lv 300+
And I just never do it lol
just do it
Seriously have the worst feking luck… went from 13 snail to nothing. Finally sorted samples so I could get atoms and got the level 5 backup. Get all the way back to 9, try again today at 70% bam back to lvl 5 😢
Is there a limit on how many of the same Shiny Pet I can use at the same time in fenceyard. Or can I just lvl up one bonus quite fast if I for example filled it all up with one type
Time gain scales linearly with amount in the yard
So it's as you like, I personally do sets of 6
dang thats rough, well once u make it back to lvl 10 snail make sure to get that atom upgrade before you do anymore attempts past 10
wave 110 now @solid epoch
nice
and no issues yet
also when i got the rift bonus for lvl 750 worship. should i start only worshipping with ES?
for more souls
Keep levelling your vman too
i use vman first then after hes done i pop the ES skill
im at 979, i might need to stop using my ES skill as much and actually use the charge on the specific characters so that i can level them up some more
yeah
also when TD, should i be more worried about lvling up kraken or poisonic?
like 10-15
onyx done finally.. now to get everyone power statues
poison prob
Poison is more important than kraken imo
all u really get from kraken is the extra minion spawning, the dmg is nothing
Okay, how do you guys get so good?
alchemy
I’m on lava lamps and my best hit ever was 39m damage
Alchemy
yeah just work on alchemy and u will eventually get gud
depends on what ur trying to do
Damage
damn that was some hardcore lagg at wave 119
if ur happy with ur samples and atom generation. u can put atoms in quick slap to get big damage
but thats something you should do after getting big prints with nothing else to do
hourly clicking bubble 1's on the first 3 cauldrons should be a prio
if u want to send ur IE i can check, but its a bad idea to dump into dmg right now for you probably
since u wont have enough atoms to sustain it
if u dont have larry at a high level then u should def do that first
The easiest way to level alchemy is to look at your bubbles that are very easy to level up. This is typiocally: Logs, ore, bugs, fish, and sometimes mob mats.
Start taking printing samples (use royal sampler) for the skilling stuff. Use ES to farm mob mats if needed
your goal here is to level up these easy bubbles so that the lab bonus, "no bubble left behind" levels the HARD bubbles for you, without spending your resources: Salt, worship souls, trapping critters, cooking spices.
As you progress, your account will get stronger in all areas. This will make your samples bigger, which lets you level the bubbles further, and it's an almost endless cycle towards greatness.
As you get stronger it'll be easier to level other things: Stamps, craft better gear, and generally do anything you need.
I have this in a notepad for when anyone asks
yeah i was about to say, how did u type all that lmao
I'm actually on a train so had to go find it from when I sent it last night lol
burp
any point of pushing past wave 130?
More souls/exp, MSA
yeah but is it linear ?
like wave 10-20 is worth less than 120-130 for example
i assume
i think it might be exponential
Pretty sure it's a % increase per wave but I've not seen the numbers since I was in w3 
but idk
Brain says 7% per wave but I could be making that up
wave 130 is taking me a few min, lol
im guessing i probably will fail fairly quick after its done tho
like the difference between 110 and 130 is 2862 to 4343 for me
Is there a way to calculate the dmg for The True Lantern artifact?
so thats like 50% more souls from 20 more waves
if i can make 130 goblin i should be able to make 110 acorn aswell, dont you think?
maybe
acorn that much harder?
Think I screwed up
, my green salt said refine rank up. Clicked it and got 1m green salts, but ie said I had 2 minutes left and Im pretty sure I'm still the same rank
When does rank cost 1m? 22 or 23?
damn alright
how does waka and frostry scale compared to goblin?
so you gain 693 souls from wave 110 to 120, then gain 788 from 120 to 130
so its exponential
literally spent over 15 mins now on wave 130, lol
idk i might be able to do a 140 goblin now, my other stuff is 110-130
alright
id love to make 121 frosty for the prayer
but i guess il have to work some more for that to happen
most recently i ran TD 2,4,5, and 6 like within a week or so ago
but havent done 1 or 3 in a while so might be able to push those a bit
not compared to endgame construction but itll do for getting my vials maxed probably
started working on those
my construction is weak because im focusing my atoms on dmg not on bob
my cons is really weak, lol
Well that's awkward
Oh thank god lol, found a picture from a few days ago, I ranked up. Got real nervous lmao
Yeah IE can get stuck at 1m thresholds
It thinks you're on like 0.9999m and never informs you it's ready
I have to check my reds regularly cause of it
any tips for w5 TD?
Search from pancake "TD" and u can find a guide for it
Beefy damage isn't huge. The Def reduction makes most people die at coom socks most of the time
coom socks?
alternate name for tremor wurms, cumsocks
It's also not a multiplicative bonus. Iirc it's additive.
Yeah. But damage is damage and Def means nothing if you survive.
still good if you can eventually get enough def to not be one/twoshotted or so
just like with royal sampler exp penalty, or dimwit skiller exp, get more of a stat to negate or mitigate the loss
and defense will be plentiful at some point
I 2nd this.. Im killing wurms rn on my bubo they do 2K to him.. but has 30K hp and one shots them so 99% of the time I don't even see dmg numbers on him.
Until a crystal spawns and hits you. Then you lose 6 hours of overnight gains and sit in town all night and want to cry in the morning 🙃
The main concern tends to be having both beefy and mk prayers on, and taking a crystal to the face
Regular mobs aren't a huge issue, its crystals that absolutely demolish you especially at worms since hemo and food normally are enough without crystals
Crystals dont hurt me enough either lol
Ive been afking here for 4 days now
How
If you're only taking 2k damage with both prayers on the clearly you have enough Def and it doesn't matter lol
Most people they will if they rush prayers. I'm talking about a vast majority of players who rush w5 because that's the meta. If they make it to worms they won't have magma or divine
I hit wurms with troll armour and the mk prayer maxed and had to turn it off 
Cause the crystals hit me for 50k haha
Ah I gotcha Ive been in W5 for a couple months and I did rush.. but ye. Im doing wurms in Chizor on this toon because my magma is on another lol
wtf first time i ever saw this type of cog 😄
is quickslap the quickest way so my vman get enough dmg to do the sacrilegius kattle relativelty quickly? i need the damn scarf unlock 
In alch probably, but might aswell boost damage through other means aswell
does anyone still have the database where u can search for the sources of specific bonuses
idleon insight website iirc
thx a lot
No idea
w5 TD is one annoying TD... lol
is there ever a point u switch from full xp cogs to build rate?
No
In theory you might switch one day if you get close to completing every building just to do the last few faster but its not even currently possible to get close to completing everything
We're still years from finishing con
what are good ratios for cogtimizer then?
You dont use cogtimizer because it doesnt account for the directional exp bonus so any ratio you use will make your cog board worse
afaik it does tho
That tool was made from early construction days before people understood the best way to progress and it was never updated
No when you increase the exp ratio it places a higher emphasis on board exp
But you want directional exp too
Besides even if it did work theres no real point in using it anyway because its easy to set up a proper board anyway
Every cog that can be in range of a character should be a player exp % directional bonus
Every cog not in range of a player just get as much exp as you can
I mean that's my setup so far
You'd ideally still do the same premise. Leveling up is always your goal
The only difference you might do is maybe a couple flag speed directional to finish flags faster
But everything else is still pushing exp
yea, but there is only one directional xp boosting cog, and it's next to the character
That means you keep rolling for more cogs
Until you get better ones
My setup didnt just happen I've gone through thousands of cogs to get there
This is what I tell people all the time
I always say I don’t use cogtomizer when people ask and they think I’m crazy
Man I still don't have ancient relic 😭
how are you getting those 100%+ cogs
I sent all my 3 boats to it mow
overall con lvl or the ones specifically making the cogs?
Level of your highest character
ie do i need to move my dks
Doesnt matter who makes the cogs
ah okay
You move your DK when you wanna play cog clicker
im at 320 highest guess thats not nearly enough
If i use premium refound stone do i get the stones i used back?
More than enough for a 100% cog
Although yeah moving DK is still a good idea if you want to make a lot of cogs quickly

I got a 100% at like 290
my highest is like a 70% lol
You don’t play cog clicker
Cog clicker is mandatory if you ever want a board like I have set up
can i teach my cat? or is that cheating
Smart cat 
This is like 5ish hours of cog clicking
Just what is cog clicker?
Missing one down arrow cog
Moving DK to make cogs so you can get 1 per second
Exactly what it sounds like. You move your DK's from the board to the cogs to produce them quickly and then you sit there and spam cogs trying to ge tgood ones

It gets less painful as your BR gets higher. I get 3 cogs per tick now 
ouch with 2 dks im almost takng 10 sec per cog

Mine's 200k or less
I thought we were just going to pass over that 
I seen you typing for too long
I thought it was a roast coming lol
On this iPad it’s a hard life 
Its roasting time 🔥
Nah thats the best part
Because it means youre at least using obols
Which is important and yet a lot of people dont
Gotta use em 
Base build rate and then personal con obol page
Just stay in W3 for a day and farm them obols
Use your obols boys and girls
Had to filter those dang bronze obols
They were screwing with my W3 statue farming
And then this is with adding family page of con obols
50% increase from the no obols setup
Also the obols increase exp too not just BR
Exp rates with and without obols 
if i can beat wave 100 on td w5 i can get 110 on acorn? what do you guys think?
Probably yeah
sweet
:c
It snowballs pretty quickly tbh
I hit my first 1b rate not that long ago and already close to 3b now
Stick to DK and dont be lazy about snapping obols
I wouldn't dream of it
I snap the family page too. Its tedious but its very helpful
Snapping Obols is the only thing that brings me joy
...I don't snap family obols. That's something I hadn't considered
When you're on the character with the personal con page you just manually swap your family page to con and then when you swap to your farmer you manually swap it back
Its the difference between the 2.3b and 2.8b pics that I posted
kinda big nuggy but not big enough 😦
Do I have to unlock these infinites to get em?
Do infinite stars get doubled by the star chip?
Only the signs you are aligned to get doubled by the chip
Is the rabbit god worth trying to get?
Otherwise, any sign that shows infinite is giving its standard bonus, even if you never paid to unlock it
Oh tenk
Ah man
Only if you want to be able to align to then use doubler on
Do you have any folks in lab with Goat?
Just get them to lv 40, and have everyone on Tranqi style
You can just passively get lab + div, and let Bunny unlock when it unlocks. Not worth leaving 7 people on imo
I don't even know what goat is tbh
burp
Rip me
This sucks lol
The start of divinity is super boring, but very powerful 😦
Who is best at getting deathnote kills? is it ES?
Gets nuts when you get x6 on printer tho
Siege Breaker afk
on active?
Probably Bubo or DK active, depending on the map.. but AFK SB blows them out of the water usually
Ive farmed 1 mill kills on W1 and W2 on ES already damn
ES is a very bad active DN farmer lol
also my ES is 163 lvl and my SB is 95
Wormhole enemies don't count for DN. Half their time or more is spent on wormhole enemies
Yeah, but doesnt portal kill revive mobs + ES have multikill buffs
Again, AFK DN farming is SB / ES with Mana Is Life buff up. Active DN is a silly idea, but Bubo or DK if you insist.
why is active DN silly
how much kph you suggest to go for 1b kills on all w1 mobs? 5M?
Because you can get so many more kills AFK in the same amount of time. AFK calculation basically has you killing every single enemy the 0th millisecond it respawns, which doesn't ALWAYS happen in active play.
see in my mind using wormwhole would be even smarter, not knowing it doesnt count
Yeah, it sucks
Is vm not good for dk?
Can rare drops come from wormwhole mobs?
Yes. That's like the main point / benefit
The yellow color is from just harriep with no lab
Theres also a common visual bug with DK that makes your prints change color as you stack the orb and it calculates your bonus
Its just visual. You will still print the correct amount
Not sure what you're asking. VM?
100+ is kinda standard 🤷 120+ is high
Nature Traps set with Vman. Just depends on your progress overall
12ish hours with my ES & Total progress so far. gonna be a fun ride lol
last onyx statue though, so that will be nice
i still got 3 to do :c
lemme guess.. w3?
my game gets lagged out bc of ES
happens to the best of us
sometimes it even freezes the game
Tell me you have doot without telling me you have doot?
am I misunderstanding something?
why is tremor worm recommended for DK crystal farming when I get like 10-20% more kills per orb on citringes
Because wurms is till going to get almost as much crystal loot while giving way more money, exp, and also kruk keys
But yeah for pure crystals OJ is a little better
ahhh I see, right forgot about keys
Im missing custard and doot. 😦
is it true that the number on the DK orb (or even if it's on the map) is irrelevant as long as the buff is still up?
Like if you accidentally click the gem store?
More number = more better I dunno how exactly but if u have a higher orb count stuff drops more
yeah basically, or if you change maps and the orb goes away but you still have the buff on the top right
Yeah, I think the counter resets to 0 when you change map, but although the orb isn't visible you're still getting the buff
more recently, I've gotten my orb CD < duration so there's 2 orbs up sometimes, and the number goes back down to 0 once the first orb expires
so I'm wondering if that negatively affects the gains
Ah, in that example: yes, it's hurting you
267 to prevent that happening, or 300+ so the losses are offset
perfect, thanks!
Yeah, orb has a max talent point investment before it becomes a problem
What sakori said
Ugh can't find it so I'm asking sorry. After fishing, shimmer and garbage island, next should be....rando or crystal?
rando is nice once you have the bribe that gives garbage per random event kills
Either is fine but I'd go rando first for the mentioned garbage
Got all pets now.
Crystal gives some candy gains but you can just colo for that
my v man only 10b damage, i cant get more 😢
Have you met our lord and saviour: quick slap bubble?
Quickslap aint helping 10b dmg 
It did for me
are these stats fine for pushing w5?
Spent a few days pulling 245 books to up some talents on vman. Went from 10b to 50b damage with quick slap on that time
10b dmg is missing a lot of other stuff
oops meant for w4
Tysons is highest pure crystals per hour with sand pots being slightly worse but also having glass shards
No other map is worth considering
Hi everyone!
oh yeah tysons look tasty too
time to farm bulleys status and ofc the rest of them... ( need like 3 in total for all onix status
es is the "best" for farming them right ?
sad i did Citrus TD without a single kraken and it didnt apply teh achievement
If you want to spend a year on it sure
I pushed with 20mil min
Its possible sure
But whats the point ?
Takes a long time once you get to the 1m+ portals
please work on alchemy and other parts of your account, you will struggle hard and then wonder what is wrong
If youre in w5 with 10m dmg you obvs rushed it
And there is not really much to be gained pushing so best is to clean up stuff that has been left behind in previous worlds
what does the +1% printer output on the rift mastery means? is it already shown when i sampled or it still add ups after printing mats?
the giants were nice to me so far overnight
sweet
this game sometimes.... trying for a gummy orb, and it gives me an eldritch dreamcatcher.. yay for 2 more chests i guess
does the vman talent that enhances other skill have 1 for wormhole?
and most likely you already have 30 chests so that arti does nothing 
what are the chest cap sources? iam only at 20
i dont have the sluggos so i can actually use the cap, i just wanted the gaming bits so ic an get this stupid snail
and achievement
on achievement iam only missing the 777 deal and for the merit shop i got all but on gem shop iam only at 2/12
idk if its even worth to get more
It is very worth it, you'll miss them very much when you go for ancient/eldrich
only missing most eldrich and really eldrich only fury is worth from what i heard
You level up faster tbf (low da mage usually = lower level)
ofc theres the damage crystal and such but the odds are still meh
Oh in that case not worth at this moment
But Im sure that w6 is gonna have something that benefits from eldrich
that is very wrong whoever told you that
most eldritch are great, just like their base artifact
yeah i k crystal steak and such are there but 0.02% is too far for me to get and that few extra chest wont be much of a help if i can get other stuff for gems
If I find that guy, I can stab him for both you and @old portal 😉
umm that artifact chance never gets better really and what else are you going to do with sailing? NOT do it???
few extra chest wont be much of a help if i can get other stuff for gems
iam talking about the chest slots that i will spend for gems
iam still missing ruby cards
some storages
even capacity
if you have less chests w/e really. you're only missing some chests overall. it just delays progress in sailing a little, but it isn't necessary at all
yeah thats my point
but sailing will still be there and you should do it as soon as your boats are sitting in harbor
and 1-2 extra chest wont help for the mean time
irather buy myself more space for QOL
i have most of them from b tier
i bought 2 chest from slugma i think its should be fine
Hello there, i have an annoying bug with King doot companion, for an obscure reason i have one of my character who don't have all the divinties active, for exemple in the 3D printer, when i'm curently playing him, all the printing are normal for everyone, and not purple (divinity bonus), also he don't have the 30% afk gain...
No problem for the 9 others, and they all see him printing in purple.
they have to have at least lvl 2 divinity
^
not a real bug, just a catch to make sure you have w5 unlocked pretty much
i'd check all the normal things: have they made it to w5? do they have divinity levels? has relogging made any difference? is it a visual bug vs a real bug? is the printing output actually less?
if all that doesn't do it, bug report it in the #bug-reports-🐛
i guarantee that one character doesn't have lvl 2 divinity, but yes if he does then i guess it's a 🐛
Oh my god you are right... He is the only one level 1 divinity
🙂
🪄
Weatherman knows his stuff
Highest ore you have 100% gathering chance on + candy
oh true! forgot about that 😮
else active Oranges but 🤢 Very slow
otherwise see you next week
I've been trying to find the solution for a whole week... Thank you very much @green eagle
Yeah but active OJ also gets those sweet plunderous kills
thanks remembered it haha
I already suffered through 100k, please don't make me do more plunder kills
Farmed my 1b vial with active SB there 
i'm at just under 100k plunderous... i've been delaying doing that 6/7 week grindfest for so long lmao
of course, no problem
2.43k plunderous kill
Need to finish the eclipse on it too but I'd rather just play DK right now
Gotta do more of it
Me too! Stopped after the vial finished lmao
you finished vial before eclipse? 👁️👄👁️
I finished the vial at like 400m kills or so
going to afk at citrige whole day farming plunderous
I always get less mats than kills
dk and bubo are just more "fun" to active. they feel like they progress your account through statues or alchemy. SB and ES help slightly, but not enough to make me want to actively play them all them time
and i was so excited for SB 😦
Even after various bubo, dk, and SB active farming, plus vial finished
SB is the most fun thematically just not for progress
I enjoy watching cannons go brrr
Its my favorite class to watch active by far
true i love the cannons skills
I hate watching SB active because he misses cannon attacks if mobs are too close 
Until daily random event spawns and you can't auto with a bow on 
Bubo is the random event champ
No matter how shitty the spawn is just walk near it and aura
anyone got guides for worship TD for higher levels?
How do u even gain access to the channels u can’t see
Go to channels and roles and select everything
Or in read me select the peanut
The link I posted was endgame

I think 16?
aight thats sad left the game and only did till 14
Is there a better order to what invest atoms in atom collider ? I just focused in getting nblb and cons speed
the power of 10 is not bad
the power of 10 is ironically more expensive yet worse with every purchase
Boron is the way to go
I'm just pumping mine into cooking, want to see how many maxed plates I can get before w6
i'm fine if he takes the drop rate one away for a bit now, got it to lvl 50 at least during the time it was here
at what point is it worth to try rift quests?
does the DR one work properly? didnt look like it when i lvled mine
if you're a completionist, I might recommend holding off until you superchow rift with your BB, as it gets really hard to do it the further you proceed
no, you do it for every single mob type, but it's just the only place that has exponential hp scaling
and how exactly does that help?
1.1x cooking speed, multiplicative per superchow
Rift only gives one superchow, so do it early when the kill/h is high
^^^ this
I mean how does exponential scaling help?
it doesn't, it ruins your day
I think there is some confusion. They are advising you get your Rift Superchow completed while still on a low level, where the enemy HP is low, so you can get multikill. If you wait until later levels, the enemies have high HP and you won't be able to multikill at all.
I super chowed rift 42
oh so that's why early
They had like 2t HP lol
how many sets of lab gear does one want for an account...no doot
Yeah did mine at 46 and it wasn't great lol
I did hit like 600k/HR even without mk though
can you use time candy there
I think mine took just a few hours shy of 7 days. I super chowed at 48 or something
Mine Would have been a lot faster if I was good at the game
so what should I wait for with BB?
Does the SB have to be the character that 'claims' the sailing time at the map for these talents to have an effect or can it be any character?
100m kills to superchow
I have had 1 lab ring total and I'm done with lab
yea but at what point can I go for 1 m kills?
No, but you generally don't want Unending Loot unless you're only checking sailing after multiple days
I'm at 0 progress in rift rn
the upgraded lab ring or thenormal one? which is better
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
