lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[fast verge]

feel like beans in faster

[dapper prism]

But, i still need max minors 😦

[twin token]

The thing you don't understand is we can't stop its like an addiction

[green eagle]

self inflicted pain

[daring ravine]

squeezing that tiniest part of damage you need

[modern plaza]

ES desync is so bad

[daring ravine]

say that again

[twin token]

My phone doesn't let me type a comma so I just used a period instead

[fast verge]

also i hit 13 dr

[dapper prism]

Beans for sure felt faster, even when i filtered all the bronze obols and just took in silvers, still got over 10k+ fragments on first day of onyx release, then i ignored them

[crude zephyr]

google's knockoff excel is not smart enough to understand that

[green eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-fbi-skeptic-chicken-funny-gif-14153035

[clear quartz]

that seems a little closer to correct, guess it explains why these thigns are taking me longer than i thought, my initial guess of 400/hr was a fluke i guess when i counted the first time

[fast verge]

ok 👍

[gray pagoda]

Nice! I myself just finished family pop obols and have nearly 7%. 13% sounds awesome!

[modern plaza]

would make sense if you had to use divinity points to upgrade gods lol

[dapper prism]

My fav:

[barren otter]

@twin token surely youre not going to try to farm hampters at that DR right?

[fast verge]

yeah, i was very suprised how i got 13%, my droprate is now i believe the highest thing in my progression lol

[crude zephyr]

i think the calculator only does it for the portal kills, and of couse you will also be killing normal mobs on the map so in reality it will always be higher

[modern plaza]

divide by 2 then add 7

[gray pagoda]

His level is too high for her

Oops, meant the other way around

[fast verge]

for ref my damage lasttime i checked is 13b with bubo

[daring ravine]

post the continuation you goober

[gray pagoda]

Her level is too low

[twin token]

Alr have 21 from pushing w5 so just need 79 for the weapon

[clear quartz]

that makes sense. i probably also have some desync since im like.... 4 days into sitting on penguins more or less all day

[daring ravine]

what is es desync

[dapper prism]

This part xD

[green eagle]

my friends tried to get me into wow by giving me the free expansion stuff that you can do. we were constantly limited by the fact they had completed everything that I would be working on and they didn't want to do it again or w/e. and of course i didn't want to buy the damn game just to do the stuff they were doing that i was too underleveled/underequipped for

[fast verge]

holy hell this looks so GOOD

[gray pagoda]

Looks like it gives that dopamine hit

[daring ravine]

hit them in the head with a metal bat
make them forget they even played WoW
then force them to make new accounts and then play together

[green eagle]

oh no not palying again

[fast verge]

[daring ravine]

oh

[clear quartz]

should in theory only be 15 more hours to finish up penguins, but we will see how that goes

[dapper prism]

Desync is essentially that due to minor lags caused from spawning the mobs, mob overloading the map and all that stuff, the time keeps shifting more and more. Happens extremely hard if you have a ton of items on the ground or like in Tower Defense.
Once you cloudsave/change alts your time is very off (it also shifts your reset over time)

E.g. this pic was from after doing TD for several hours, due to all the lag, after switching alts, my account was essentially 1h 44min out of sync.
Not sure how that would really affect your drops though tbh

[gray pagoda]

Instructions unclear, I now have a uranium bat sitting in my closet and the FBI are after me

[twin token]

I hate it when that happens

[gray pagoda]

Fr. It's not my fault they store the uranium in the break room. I thought it was an apple!

[twin token]

Yeah why do they have to make both of them green

[paper sail]

88 fertilizer down to 1.. Still no new t6 plant

(or nugget, but that isn't a surprise to anyone)

[barren otter]

[paper sail]

[dapper prism]

2 minutes later:
"forgot to unlock it on superbits"

[signal osprey]

[paper sail]

I did at least do that. Just down to my last two T6 types and they refuse

[dapper prism]

Dont force em to hard, they'll come by pretty easily

[barren otter]

nah dont listen to trickz min max it

dont be that guy without full T6s

[dapper prism]

But i have em all 😦

[paper sail]

Much too late for that. Already burned through all of the Fertilizers

[barren otter]

did you finish the 1k chems achievement during that btw?

im still 444 off

[paper sail]

😭

[fossil urchin]

a level 13 captain with 280% loot value is worse than a captain in the shop with base 48% loot value, correct?

[tall horizon]

Value divided by level to get its base

[fossil urchin]

thanks

[green eagle]

you'll pass that 280% loot value cap at lvl 6

for fun when you get him to lvl 13 he will have 624% loot value

[lavish grotto]

I just need to talk here to display the hype of getting a good from a 1% offering :))

[green eagle]

[regal trail]

finally got my first pair of wings

[dreamy agate]

still didn't even manage to unlock that plant type.

[bright current]

I had the opposite problem lmao

that wasnt even all the fuckin wings

[regal trail]

lmao yea i have 5 more pendants

rng is frustrating

[bright current]

ikr

and surprisingly i got only 1 obol that whole time

[finite sparrow]

Is cloud 8 the fury relic island?

The one that takes 8 million points to unlock

[prisma drift]

Gaming hater

[paper sail]

First time I've ever seen a Stacked Cog. Too bad it has 0% exp

[gentle anchor]

what does converter excatly do i dont understand the bonus

just that there is a 5O% u can claim spices twice?

[paper sail]

Not just twice. Every claim attempt COULD give you the spices without resetting to 0

I've had 10+ claims in a row without resetting

[edgy pendant]

Just unlocked chemical plant in gaming and noticed that there is still a % chance to unlock new plants. Is this for potential upcoming plants?

[gentle anchor]

thats a 1/1O24 chance

[tacit tulip]

is this an acceptable gmush? This was 1b this morning🙂

[hollow osprey]

when should i use bottled winds/gaming fertilizers?

[untold cypress]

how much hp do the nightmare minions in kruk have?

[gentle anchor]

does that count to the 1OO claims a day?

[gentle anchor]

i think same hp

[untold cypress]

oh. so nightmare just takes longer but the minions are still one-shottable?

[gentle anchor]

if u do 9OOmil dmg ye

[paper sail]

Minions spawn faster per difficulty, but should be same HP

[spice widget]

When do i start attempting eldritch fury? As soo as possible or do i ancient all other first?

[tacit tulip]

base it on what you need, not all artifacts are made equal

For example, eldrithcing the first island for eldritch artifact find chance is the obvious best first step

[spice widget]

So prolly after maxing the artifacts thatll help getting fury alr thx

[zealous niche]

The spice special talent can claim over the 100 claims per day limit and also can activate converter

[quaint zodiac]

You know mantra style divinity
Does this apply to toons that aren't doing divinity?

[blazing zodiac]

what can i realistically increase quickly?

[quaint zodiac]

So I can finally go back to killing monsters on at least one or two toons 🤤

[zealous niche]

Probably cards, they go to 300% with ruby doubled cards

[blazing zodiac]

hum thats a good point

[zealous niche]

So at 85 there’s room for improvement even without doubling or ruby

[solemn rampart]

If I buy a stamp from the trash fish, does it drop on the ground?

Dang. He should drop that thing faster...

[hollow osprey]

is there a way to join random event if i clicked it away accidentally

[solemn rampart]

Go back to player menu and select a player.

[hollow osprey]

ty

[sleek tree]

How to fast farm statue with Archer/V man barb?

[little pagoda]

For the 100k? Vvman might still be able to farm crystals, but the fastest way for all of them is to candy mining

With drop rate focus

[sleek tree]

Candy mining

sure i will test

thanks

[little pagoda]

Skilling speed is also very important as statues aren't affected by efficiency when you're over 100%

[vestal delta]

I'm really confused by this artifact, it didn't actually increase my chest capacity?

[tacit tulip]

that's a hard cap of 30 chests so that one often does nothing if you have other buffs

[little pagoda]

Someone said eldritch is bugged

[vestal delta]

ahh that's why

[tacit tulip]

kinda a shame really

[foggy briar]

really?

I dont see any reason for a cap

would be better for long afk times too

[little pagoda]

Especially considering one of the gem shop purchases is literally a bigger loot pile lol

At least you can get more ships to get a bigger pile kinda

[vagrant mountain]

I wonder if you can actually get to 32 chests by getting eldritch first before buying gem shop

[wanton wren]

Why is it not possible to use candies on w5?

[untold saffron]

its too hot

[tall horizon]

[vagrant mountain]

🥵

[untold saffron]

as nice as a high level kapow is, does it serve any function if you're already at the point of one hitting everything. It doesn't help with MK or anything right?

[somber sparrow]

nice for vman 😄 and shimmer island maybe

[tall horizon]

Bragging rights

[little pagoda]

It does help ES for bigger wormhole count

Also for future content

[untold saffron]

ah thats a good point

[vagrant mountain]

Shimmer DPS trial

[sand summit]

If you are one hitting nightmare kruk then yea just the dps shimmer trial

And es as Orlando said

In fact thinking about it ES is prob the biggest reason for high level of kapow

[untold saffron]

I'm working on the last few 100k statue quests now

[nimble yarrow]

what is max level of myriad crate?

[untold saffron]

100k innit?

[polar light]

Aren't all crates 400 max

[steel linden]

What's the best map to farm 100k statues with ES?

[opaque sun]

Candy on dreadlo ore for non-DKs

[twin token]

Myriad is 100k w5 crates are 800 and everything else is 400

[polar light]

So many pens

[opaque sun]

pens is the least of worries

[polar light]

So much clicking

[untold saffron]

though I did 100k on an ES pretty quick just at wood mush since I was eclipse skulling there

so if you aren't in a rush an ES with a choco chip is ight anywhere

[opaque sun]

if not in a rush, chocochip with any class is fine to be honest

but since the question was “whats best” so i assume rush is part of the factor

[untold saffron]

you right, but a lot of the time best and what should I do are interchangable to people

[vagrant mountain]

if time is not a factor, you might as well farm tremors for exp

[bright current]

shud i just have any slow ships farm materials for lower number ship buffs in this scenario?

that sounds like the go to me

[vagrant mountain]

yeah I'm doing that and I don't have as many eldritch as you heh

you got all the important ones

[bright current]

yea but im very lazy lmao so i left mf's on islands they probs shouldnt be

ima redo the sailing then i guess lmao

[vagrant mountain]

I got most of my ships on first island trying to get red ships

[twin token]

How much dmg do I need to get to rift 46

[untold saffron]

it was awhile ago but I think I heard 80billion?

[bright current]

its less about damage, more about how stacked your SB, DK, and ES are

[tacit tulip]

the biggest wall is ES which -typically- needs about 120B sheet damage with high levels in the attack talents

[twin token]

Does that just mean talents

[bright current]

i did it with way less, u can cheese the portal

[twin token]

120b sheet damage meaning not accounting megacrit?

[twin token]

Can't cheese rift anymore

Lava patched it

[bright current]

summon portal there

[twin token]

O u mean use small platform

[bright current]

then just pray for tornados

and u eventually get it

[twin token]

I thought u meant use clans which now I think abt it doesn't even make sense

[vagrant mountain]

FK I should really do rift 46 lol, I got 3T

[untold saffron]

more importantly, super chow your BB before pushing rift

[bright current]

go pre farm rift 51 at that point lol

[twin token]

I don't wanna think abt that

[vagrant mountain]

prefarm 51? is that a big AFK level?

[untold saffron]

neither do i

[twin token]

How much dmg does endgame bb do

[lapis mesa]

4

[twin token]

Mac rift is 49

[opaque sun]

as in sacrifice one guy who is effectively disabled until next update on rift

[bright current]

rift 46 is the highest reward atm, but you can go beyond that and reach rift 50. then u dont gatta do it when he eventually expands it

[twin token]

50 has no completion goal

[vagrant mountain]

I see what you mean

[opaque sun]

you basically leave one guy at 200 day afk or something and never claims

[lapis mesa]

that would be the time it procs sailing gains -_-

[vagrant mountain]

for rift superchow, can you sc each rift (e.g. 41, 42, 43, etc) or just once in total

[opaque sun]

I personally wont do that as its potential omni

[weary granite]

should I link my last new char to snake or bear first? I figure the afk gains for snake will help set him up until it's better to switch to bear

[lapis mesa]

could you imagine a 200 day refinery proc 😄

[opaque sun]

Just one. But earlier waves are simply easier to super chow

[vagrant mountain]

I should sc rift while I'm at 41 then 😂

[opaque sun]

If you are on last rift, its no big deal as it can be super chowed with no mk in a week or so

[vagrant mountain]

your red and salt get maxed and then you run out of every salt except black

[lapis mesa]

end up with a nullo GS aat that point

farming doughnuts seems more obnoxious that usual w4 farming, maybe cuz theres so few of them?

[vagrant mountain]

I'm superchowing backwards from tremor wurms lol

[opaque sun]

Its not the worst idea if its like “im not going to benefit from mk on the stronger mobs anyway”

[vagrant mountain]

low-key hoping my BB hits level 425 by the time he finishes w5, he is at 417

[cinder cliff]

my IE sometimes only shows 3 bubbles on my active char when I have sheepie, is that just visual?

[lapis mesa]

visual

[tacit tulip]

The answer is, and always will be: Alchemy

The easiest way to level alchemy is to look at your bubbles that are very easy to level up. This is typiocally: Logs, ore, bugs, fish, and sometimes mob mats.

Start taking printing samples (use royal sampler) for the skilling stuff. Use ES to farm mob mats if needed

your goal here is to level up these easy bubbles so that the lab bonus, "no bubble left behind" levels the HARD bubbles for you, without spending your resources: Salt, worship souls, trapping critters, cooking spices.

As you progress, your account will get stronger in all areas. This will make your samples bigger, which lets you level the bubbles further, and it's an almost endless cycle towards greatness.

As you get stronger it'll be easier to level other things: Stamps, craft better gear, and generally do anything you need.

[twin token]

Do u mind if I copy this and paste it whenever someone asks smth that the awnser is Alchemy to

[tacit tulip]

I actually just copy and pasted it into my notepad of useful stuff so please go ahead

[twin token]

Do u mind sharing this notepad of Wisdom with me

[signal osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/saigeryan-notsaige-twitch-gif-23829081

[north juniper]

Finally had to add the bronze w3 obols to the filter. Never thought I’d see the day

[tacit tulip]

for example, today you could level quick slap and sanic tools very easily. You could level these bubbles incredibly quickly by just sending someone to those maps - ES would trvialise it.

NBLB would then upgrade a different bubble

The most important bubble for you to unlock right now would be the diamond chef bubble, yellow

[pure ember]

Switch them around and active bubo more

[tacit tulip]

But I'm mostly talking about levelling the bubbles up

[twin token]

From the level 10 sonic tools and quick slap id Guess they aren't at that stage yet

[tacit tulip]

as opposed to unlocking new ones - that is good too but you really need to get some levels first

[pure ember]

They need more bubbles, thus use bubo

Also finish boss quests on everyone

[tacit tulip]

I only add to it if people as me enough, the other one I keep to hand and use often is:

Bubo: Total number of kills -> Total number of cystal mobs -> Money gain, also alchemy
ES: Portal kills (do not spawn crystals, though do spawn more mobs), buff only applies to mobs -> Mob drops
DK: Orb multiplier (so 100 is 2x drop rate) -> Crystals drop loads -> Crystal drops, also construction

[twin token]

Bubo isn't effective if he isn't shooting off revives tho so I'm saying they most likely aren't there

[twin token]

Thanks

[pure ember]

It would still be a days worth of progress, I am not talking about using it for 6+ hrs

Just using it more

[twin token]

Ah OK mb

[tacit tulip]

The notepad also has my mobile phone number on it - as our doorbell doesn't work I copy it for delivery instructions

you can't have that one

[pure ember]

Also never have red salt auto refine

Sample mob mats in vman speed run, would start with green spores first

[tacit tulip]

He's nowhere near having a vman, which is why I suggested starting with ES for those bubbles

[pure ember]

Spend Worship on characters that need more levels......

[twin token]

Wizard class upgrade

Elemental sorcerer

[tacit tulip]

elemental sorcerer, your first character 🙂

[twin token]

Basically wormhole talent makes es super good for mob mats bc I dunno why but he is

[pure ember]

.... gmush

[tacit tulip]

Any bubble you can level in a reasonable time

[twin token]

Coconuts too bc quick slap

[pure ember]

More base mats the higher the portal count

[tacit tulip]

really so many bubble can be levelled in minutes there

[twin token]

Yeah but I mean I dunno the math

[tacit tulip]

the world is your oyster

[pure ember]

Doesn't have the speed, would be better to get the 2nd bubble upgraded

[twin token]

They're upgrading to target nblb

[pure ember]

Those are lvl 25 and under

[tacit tulip]

realistically if you start focusing on levelling bubbles you'll find yourself low on water - this is good at this stage of the game as it means you're spending what you can

[north juniper]

Don’t skimp on the low hanging fruit

If it’s easy, do it

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-gif-26049397

[twin token]

I miss bubbles costing 2 liquid to upgrade

[north juniper]

That won’t be an issue with bubo cc farming and the lab node

I’m around a few thousand constantly

And you throw the excess in the exp bubble

[twin token]

Yeah but can't farm it so sadge

[signal osprey]

Their account is not in a place to have thousands of liquid on hand constantly

[north juniper]

Build your bubo

[twin token]

He is built

[pure ember]

Is it just an old timers perspective that he doesn't even have the foundation to be mid w4?

[twin token]

But I don't have level 200 tent

[signal osprey]

Let's not forget that people are at different stages of the game

We were all new players at one point

[pure ember]

And already doing w5 stuff?

[north juniper]

Did he just enter W5?

[pure ember]

Got sneb unlocked

[twin token]

Well if u play without asking people what's optimal and stuff then it might look like that

[signal osprey]

Hes got level 10-20 bubbles and no vman

Its pretty safe to say he's still fairly early on in his idleon journey

[twin token]

Wait what are u talking abt contract?

Abt the forgetting ppl are at different stages thing

[signal osprey]

Purgatory was saying that liquid shouldn't matter and that he has thousands on hand constantly

I was saying that a new player can't accomplish that

[twin token]

Oh they were talking to me I think

[heavy moth]

after bribe whats the next upgrade here bottle or more trash percent

[signal osprey]

9 trash % if your goal is to buy out the name tag asap

[heavy moth]

aight ill save then thanks

[north juniper]

Never said it doesn’t matter. I said it won’t be an issue when you cc farm.

If you hit it on cooldown even at an unbuilt bubo, it’s still liquid gained

[signal osprey]

Yeah I agree you should be doing it as much as you can but early on liquid is very much still an issue

[bright vine]

What’s a good es portal number

[signal osprey]

When I first started buboing and pushing alch I never had enough liquid

[north juniper]

Sure and we’ve all been there. But not getting those liquids from cc early on is even more of a loss

Than the already depleted stash

I took my 20k seconds with pride

But I’m sure we can both agree that making it to w5 is a great accomplishment from them. Now they need to build around pre world mechanics namely alchemy

[blazing zodiac]

300% Am I missing a card, I rubied poop and genie and im at 150%..

[north juniper]

Shrine?

[twin token]

Card doublers take it to 300%

[blazing zodiac]

ahh shit

the chip?

[twin token]

Yeah

The black ones

[blazing zodiac]

fawk

[signal osprey]

Yeah for a normal crystal build you always double crystal spawn rather than DR

But even without them you can get a decent spawn chance

[blazing zodiac]

mustve missed that chip when it was available

[twin token]

It's available soon I think right

[blazing zodiac]

do we know the cost beforehand?

i'll prepare

[signal osprey]

All the cost for every chip is on the wiki

[twin token]

There's a section that says the rotation of the chip in w3 pins

[signal osprey]

And you've got some time. I don't have the jewel sheet on hand because I'm on mobile but I remember theres no doublers until November

Although when November hits its completely stacked with good chips so save up now

[blazing zodiac]

guess im capped out for now

[signal osprey]

It has a doubler almost every week

[blazing zodiac]

dang alright

thanks

[bright vine]

Nov is doubler and then December for doubler and choco

[signal osprey]

November has a few doublers just not cards

It has like pendant and star sign doublers or something

[bright vine]

I mean for cards only

[signal osprey]

Yeah but the other doublers are very important too

Pendant doubler is better than card doublers for every form of afk farming because there's not a single card in the game as useful as the kruk scarf

[twin token]

Best card is amarok which is literally half the bonus of kruk scarf

[signal osprey]

And for fighting its less than half because scarf has respawn too

Which is more important than afk gains

Kruk scarf is probably worth 3 Amarok cards for fighting

[twin token]

Yeah bc respawn is multiplicative with afk gains

[celest scroll]

hey just made it to W5, what should I start focusing on

[tacit tulip]

1000 years divinity jail

[celest scroll]

lab lvl 2

[tacit tulip]

Divinity til goat then use goat to level lab and divinity at the same time

You can also use bear to get people free and have shenanigans if you like

[granite grove]

only applies if you have doot, otherwise rush to arctis, then eventually get goharut (not much of a rush as arctis)

[tacit tulip]

I think he was maybe calling it lab 2

[granite grove]

probably, cant tell

[north juniper]

The chip buys are definitely worth if you’re going to do it

1 $20 pack can cover you for almost 2 rounds which is 14 chips

Key word is almost. Don’t want to go look right now but you’d get 11-12 for sure

[dapper prism]

385 Gems/chip
3850 Gems for 10 chips or more realisticly 2695 Gems for 7 chips (1 week worth of chips)

1/22 chance for choco and basically a 10/22 chance to get a good/useful chip either way

[ashen field]

Enjoying my 200k power statue farm right now

Is there a faster way of farming 100k statues than killing crystal mobs?

(not the power ones)

[sick sentinel]

Candy mining should be pretty good if you have a stock

[ashen field]

Yeah I've got a couple thousand hours stocked up

Seems really tedious to do on any other character but DK though

[true ingot]

since the last roasting session(i fixed some stuff)but ive still been wondering what i should aim for so heres my IE https://sshdlink.idleonefficiency.com/

[rough wasp]

I finally got this

[safe harness]

for void runs, does killing highest difficulty boss count for all 3 or do you have to do all difficulties?

[lapis mesa]

nightmare counts as 3

[safe harness]

thanks

[vagrant mountain]

stamps and alchemy
#1087257720043876372 message

[eternal dove]

do nothing hours only count if your on fractal island?

[still apex]

I believe towns count too

[eternal dove]

finally new nugget i think i might cry

[surreal oxide]

whats the best way to farm w4 boss keys? What char?

[still apex]

Active es, or dk colosseum

[surreal oxide]

tyvm

[paper sail]

DK with max Drop Rate in W4 colo if you have tickets to spare. Active ES at Stilted Seekers is another options, but.. There are better things to be doing active in most cases

[surreal oxide]

trying to do the new worm quest, is it worth?

[rough wasp]

Share pls

[paper sail]

Depends on how badly you want the +1 slab from the trophy 🤷 I personally will be getting keys via Colo

[eternal dove]

ive waited since basically week after w5 for a new nug. technically got a new nug like a few weeks a go but literally was +46 nug

[paper sail]

I don't even look at the nuggets I dig any more.. I know they're crap

[true ingot]

i did not know that existed tysm

[manic moat]

Any chance for a level 6 plant if I pop these chem? Should I wait for more chem?

[eternal dove]

im glad i finished off all t6. took me ages

[manic moat]

I'm at 5.9minutes per cycle right now

[paper sail]

Always a chance, sure

[eternal dove]

id say get more chems but never know

[manic moat]

I suppose I could pop them and just wait for more xD

[vagrant mountain]

I popped 84 gaming foods with full board of T5s, using log every 3 food, and I got 0 T6

[paper sail]

While you are so low on plants, I'd take the time to rearrange your imports to squish plants better

[eternal dove]

t6s werent super bad for me except for the bonsai that took like at least a month

[manic moat]

darn, no luck

got another chem though

[eternal dove]

did you pop all of your chems at once?

[manic moat]

no

I did get skull on the first round on log twice though 😦

[dapper prism]

very tiny chance xD

[eternal dove]

rip super unlucky. unlucky with sprinkler not giving chems either huh?

[manic moat]

got one from the sprinkler

pretty brutal. Still trying to figure out how to get a little more bits

[eternal dove]

im close to getting the bits msa

[paper sail]

Bits MSA was actually quite nice

[eternal dove]

i mean 50% per 10 waves is a pretty nice boost to my ears

[paper sail]

certainly a more interesting bonus than these other

[eternal dove]

i dont got waves like that tho

whenever log doesnt reset it always feels like i get skull super early

[ruby hamlet]

So i pîcked very wrong early and (putting this in W5 as the question is mostly about W6 preparation and if it's too early for me to prepare / not a good deal) picked crystal island first... yea yea i know, so now i'm here and wondering which one to pick next? I think i'm supposed to pick seasalt but i don't even have any gear above void and most everyone is in much worse gear than that (2-3 tiers under). Should i still go for Seasalt next or does fractal or rando make more sense?

[paper sail]

I'd get Seasalt next, yes

[eternal dove]

full agree seasalt

[paper sail]

Not only is it tremendous fishing exp, you also need some of the fish for Omar's quest to get more bottles per day

[little pagoda]

seasalt for the fishing levels alone is worth it, and also the fishing cards

[ruby hamlet]

oh didn't think of using it to level up fishing but that makes sense, more xp/hour

[little pagoda]

It's massive xp

[ruby hamlet]

ty all picking seasalt next 🙂 which one should i pick after (i guess with price increases "after" is in a while anyway 👀 ?)

[eternal dove]

leaps and bounds better xp. after that id say fractal

[paper sail]

Fractal last, so Rando next for you

[little pagoda]

Tbh fractal is only worth it if you are actually panning to dump candies on it

There are ok bonuses but the cost in candies is steep

[modern plaza]

fractal is the gigachad island

[dapper prism]

Fractal has no place as a "do this or that" as it's situational.. check its benefits and see if it would benefit you. As to some of us late ppl it has 0 purpose

[eternal dove]

with the rate i leave some of my characters doing nothing by accident....

[little pagoda]

If it was a little bit easier to get I'd go for the artifact chance but I think the other islands are way better anyway

Except rando which is meh, only interesting if you are hunting for random event drops and even then not really

Random events should get a buff to be worth doing tbh

[dapper prism]

purpose of rando is to dump all bottles into it once you're done with the rest ig

[little pagoda]

I know there's a shop there that you use bottles but what are the bonuses?

[little pagoda]

Meh, I guess if you invest months of bottles random event can be doable

[dapper prism]

Believe double boss spawn chance and Drop chance for the event boss

Oh there's a pic xD (Tags to find the pic. Random Island Expedition Rando Shop Upgrade Event Boss

[signal osprey]

Its the key to completing the full glacial obol dream

[distant panther]

Ready for my roast session, Keep in mind I am swapping over to skilling for now. I just made Dread Tools. I don't have cards, starsigns, etc. setup yet and about to redo all of my samples.
https://untold.idleonefficiency.com/

[signal osprey]

I will be spending bottles on rando before I buy fractal

[little pagoda]

so you get like what, +4% drop rate?

[dapper prism]

I got a Glacial obol on like the first week or so , then never ever again a single boss drop

[signal osprey]

10% before SB or the p2w bundle

[dapper prism]

Do the basics, then come back.

[little pagoda]

So you go from like 12 drop rate to 12.12

Oops, 12.03

[modern plaza]

lava has been offly quiet

[true ingot]

now i may be one to talk... but 2 effaunt keys a day?

[little pagoda]

nah the first one but I can't imagine that's really worth the trouble lol

[signal osprey]

I don't see how its trouble though

What else do you plan on doing with bottles

[lament jasper]

Its limited to 1 purchase right ?

[signal osprey]

We don't have infinite islands to unlock

[little pagoda]

doing glacial boss every week is the trouble lol

[signal osprey]

Sounds like a skill issue

[dapper prism]

That person has lvl 400 alts and still only 8 keys/day in w1.

I won't look at an IE profile anymore when people dont even do the bare minimum themsevels like claiming books, using up the samps before posting etc.

[lament jasper]

^

Limited 1 purchase ?

[dapper prism]

Pretty sure not, think the whole purpose was to make event boss slab easier.

Although the bottle cost will surely scale

[little pagoda]

Is 245 the max talent book level right now?

[modern plaza]

nothing scales in this game

[little pagoda]

I think I only need eldritch fury but that won't be anything I get anytime soon

[lament jasper]

Nice

Missed quote reply twice in a row

[pearl cedar]

This feels so pointless, making defence obols

[ocean fox]

End game candy use is basically just gmushing right?

[modern plaza]

my doot hasn’t scaled for months

[pearl cedar]

Like endgame endgame?

[ocean fox]

Late game I should say

[pearl cedar]

Yes realistically because there's nothing left to use it on

Lategame probably not

Maybe a couple billion. Just for some easy money gains

[torn thorn]

I'd say use it if you havnt already do the cooking zow an candy here n there til ur done with ur 100m kills

[pearl cedar]

Lategame you're candying superchows and eclipse

[torn thorn]

Prolly then candying all ur skills to as high as possible but keeping under maestro skill lvls

Idk wtf to do in end end game other then resample and wait.. XD

[modern plaza]

gotta make sure your whole account has the best tools possible 😏

[dapper prism]

Just set some personal breakpoints for Skilling, like 100 on all for all, but then like 120 on mainskills and toss vman to 121 in that example.

[modern plaza]

but but, cooking 😦

send halp

[pearl cedar]

Take that one to 75

Is only like 90k balloons for your account

[dire tinsel]

how do you check your food non consume chance lol

[modern plaza]

oh ok good i have 1.3m bc of doot

[paper sail]

https://idleontoolbox.com/characters Stats section

[haughty kernel]

The deal on gem shop rotates every week, but is there a order on whats comming next?

[dire tinsel]

oh its 99% wtf

[dapper prism]

because of lab ftw

[dapper prism]

there's a whole schedule for like 8 months ahead or so

[paper sail]

For the gem shop? O.o

[haughty kernel]

omg where do I find it?

[dapper prism]

oh thought gems like jewels/chips

[paper sail]

I assumed they were asking about banners

They might be asking about the lab shop lol

[haughty kernel]

Ohh no, I was saying the banners

[dapper prism]

So confused what you even mean with "banners"

[haughty kernel]

So I know when I'll get my 50% extra skill xp

[paper sail]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Gem_Shop#Rotating_Packs

[dapper prism]

Just fyi, that's a terrible pack*

[haughty kernel]

Just for that only item and maybe luck with pets

[dapper prism]

Also, the packs seem to be in no proper order and just random, also random per person from what i've experienced

[haughty kernel]

Ty, but there's no info on whats next tho =X

[haughty kernel]

Ohh =´[ sad

[paper sail]

I know. Was letting Trickz know what we meant by Banner deals

[edgy tusk]

Is the tall slimy package in gaming worth saving up for? Or just keep upgrading base value until I can afford it pretty easily? I'm only 100b away but I've taken almost all day to get the 500b that I now have

Don't wanna buy it if it's better spent increasing value

[coral ravine]

What do you guys do with your BMs for afk? G mush? Rare drops?

[paper sail]

I don't remember what the boxes were called lol

[dapper prism]

Lab?

[dapper prism]

which one is that?

[edgy tusk]

Snail

[dapper prism]

Yes, it's amazing

although it won't do anything for 3 days.

[paper sail]

Possibly 2x your bits every 3 days

[sharp vine]

Literally just got home from work/the gym and opened Idleon to see this

[edgy tusk]

Hmm

[dapper prism]

Each time you upgrade it (time gated) it will double your total bits income.
2x, 4x, 8x, 16x etc.
However it has a chance to reset down

[edgy tusk]

Alright. Guess I'll keep saving

Down all the way to 0? Or back a step?

[lavish cloak]

What generates statues on nonshiny farmers that makes decent progress towards 100k quest?

[dapper prism]

Mining Dreadlo

[lavish cloak]

Dreadlo? Not copper?

[dapper prism]

No.. Highest ore at 100% effy

Lower ores have lower statue rates

[lavish cloak]

Neat. Thank you. Same for trees? Choppin in w5?

[paper sail]

Dreadlo > Starfire > Toilet logs are 3rd

[dapper prism]

unsure about trees

but think that's differnet

yup toilet the last one with a benefit for those

[paper sail]

Lava is kinda drunk on rare bag rates for skilling nodes.. I gave up questioning

[haughty kernel]

the whole game is kinda drunk but weirdly """"""""""balanced""""""" idk a better word for this

[vagrant mountain]

it's only 'balanced' cuz it's basically a single player game

[paper sail]

Hm. I didn't realize that Dreadlo, Starfire, Lustre, and Void all drop 2 statues each, while Toilet log is only 1 statue

[vagrant mountain]

same

[paper sail]

Not sure how that maths out then

[sharp vine]

Time to start the box statue grind for like 5 days Q~Q

[paper sail]

Worst case, Toilet is 5th best instead of 3rd best

[haughty kernel]

Yeah, but even so I find it awesome, even with infinite upgrades it keep going without scalling mobs like in other games

[vagrant mountain]

hmm I swear dreadlo was like 1 in 97 or something on the card, or maybe that was just the rare bag

[paper sail]

Dreadlo says 1 in 77 bag, then 1 in 4 for statue

[vagrant mountain]

ah

[paper sail]

idk how that gets to 285 but

[dapper prism]

Ez maffs 1+1=2

[hot sage]

Goharut is just an upgrade to Arctis right?

[dapper prism]

Not at all the same

[signal osprey]

If you need lab exp yes but otherwise not really

[edgy tusk]

Rare bag?

[vagrant mountain]

1 / (4*77) = 1 / 285
note that lava uses a different multiplication method

[dapper prism]

Artic = no points or xp and able to not be in lab
Goat = Have to be in lab to get both lab+div points and xp. Cant be outside.

[hot sage]

So early on "Goharut is just an upgrade to Arctis right?"

[signal osprey]

When I do div I prefer to use arctis and be on the altar because it gives me the flexibility to move characters. If you use goat and sit in lab you're stuck

[paper sail]

4*77 = 308 though

[dapper prism]

Still not the same purpose or thing at all

[signal osprey]

Its basically flexibility versus lab exp

[haughty kernel]

I just get to W5 and now I'm sitting on 10 characters to get Goharut to go back to lab exp "grind"

[hot sage]

got it arctis worths if you want the char to do something else got it

[vagrant mountain]

not if you're using lava math

[sharp igloo]

Is there much point in raising lab past 100?

[signal osprey]

Not much point in raising it past 75

[dapper prism]

Yeh, so once you have goat unlocked you could have like 3-5 in lab and then 1-3 people on bear for all lab bonuses kinda thing.

[paper sail]

I'm gonna assume there is rounding happening in the end

[dapper prism]

1k Lab fam Looking at you like this 👀

[tall horizon]

Mastery

[signal osprey]

Yeah but that doesnt necessarily require 100 on everyone though

[sharp igloo]

I dont know what to do with my vman rn, since his kills dont count for deathnote, so I just put him in lab to try to get him higher than my bubo lol

[signal osprey]

I have a character at 200 who can pick up the slack for others

[paper sail]

Get you a chonker

[tall horizon]

Requires more than 75 lol

[paper sail]

If your Vman isn't skilling, he's falling behind

[dapper prism]

Please check on 9's back and make sure he hasn't received Scoliosis for being in the lab that long..

[dapper prism]

But lab level on vman is kinda* irrelevant?

[paper sail]

I have to assume, much like myself, he was born with it

[dapper prism]

Awhh, sorry to hear 😦

[vagrant mountain]

4 * 77 = 4 * 70 + 4 * 7(round down to nearest 5 and remove 10s digit) = 280 + 5 = 285

[sharp igloo]

I had him chopping for a while, but it was getting super slow around 120, then I got his fishing and mining to 100, now Im doing lab lol

[tall horizon]

Got seasalt? Massive exp

[sharp igloo]

Yeah thats how I got to 100 lol. I just candied seasalt

[dapper prism]

Make him like 101 or 121 on everything.
That way you can have all alts all skills 100 with main skills 120. and have vman still be rank 1

[paper sail]

In reality, he's a backup Bubo that I didn't change to an ES

[signal osprey]

Thee 77 and the 4 are rounded

[lavish grotto]

is ES's double god link worthless with doot

awesome!!

[edgy tusk]

If doot was obtainable

[paper sail]

and that's exactly why I didn't bother changing my 2nd Bubo into a 2nd ES. Banking on Doot 🤣

[pearl cedar]

God what a waste of atoms clicks

[tall horizon]

Here I am with mp... again....

[paper sail]

I got Guild GP

[lavish grotto]

is that shimmer challenge different for everybody?

[pearl cedar]

Though I guess it goes to 4x? Do I need to push more def for actual 40?

[pearl cedar]

Accuracy would be better for me

[tall horizon]

Why is everyone else getting the good ones

[sharp igloo]

Lol mine was "get as many individual hits in as possible during the time limit" i used vman with his quad punches and still only got 9 lol

[vagrant mountain]

I think SB is most consistent but ES has tornado RNG potential

[signal osprey]

Dreadlo ore uses rare drop table 4 which is 1/76.9 not 1/77 and the lumberbob statue is a 1/3.7 not 1/4 so its actually rounded at the beginning lol

[pearl cedar]

Never gonna catch my samples now Rash

[sharp igloo]

I tried SB and he was worse. Dont think I tried ES tho

[tall horizon]

I've been trying for stupid book since week 1

[vagrant mountain]

if you still have the event monster summons, you can summon 4 of them for attack speed buff

[paper sail]

That's what I was assuming, thank you

[lapis mesa]

if im fishing, and use the setup for krakens, am i more likely to get kraken cards? or are cards a crapshoot

[sharp igloo]

Thats smart. I just used all mine yesterday tho

[pearl cedar]

I just throw a try in every week, the gains are small so meh

[signal osprey]

The book is pretty underwhelming tbh

[pearl cedar]

All the new star talents are pretty lackluster honestly

[vagrant mountain]

4% all stat for 300~ avg shimmer pts to hit

[signal osprey]

I lucked into it pretty early on and honestly I feel like I would be getting about as much value out of skill efficiency dump as I am from the talent

[sharp igloo]

Are the new bribes good at all?

[vagrant mountain]

decent

[dapper prism]

lol i just unlocked them about a minute ago xD

[signal osprey]

Getting bribes is mostly for extra trash gain but that assumes you do random events

[vagrant mountain]

you mainly get bribes for trash drops and more bottles

[signal osprey]

If you dont care for trash or events then I would get stamps before bribes

[pearl cedar]

Now my problem is I have 4 sparkle defence obols I can't get rid of

[sharp igloo]

I was going for them, and then someone said they sucked, so I got the first 2 stamps instead, but those also kinda sucked, so now im a few days away from bribes and not sure if I should get those or the 80 trash dice stamp first

[dapper prism]

Bribes first for more trash to get the rest faster

[pearl cedar]

And the trash you gain is averaging like 3 an event which is only like 21 a week compared but whatever

[vagrant mountain]

you only get more trash if you do randoms every day

[dapper prism]

Yeh, but 3 an event is still better than the 4 a day from island xD

[vagrant mountain]

I think trash drop is 1 in 4 for 3-5

[sharp igloo]

I usually get 8 a day from the island

[pearl cedar]

I get like 10 a day from island though

If random event drop was affected by trash% then it would be pretty good

[zinc torrent]

Anyone have guide for obol? I have seen it ago, but forgot to save it

[sharp igloo]

Get pop and dice obols for at least your DK and Family slots. I use money obols on my bubo for when I active on him. Other than that, Id say pop/dice obols on everyone, with skilling obols saved in your inventory for when you sample.

[pearl cedar]

Money obols 🤢 you would get more money from wis obols

[sharp igloo]

How lol?

[signal osprey]

The money per wisdom bubble

[sharp igloo]

Ah didnt think of that. Still though, 8% money seems like a bigger boost than 12 wis or whatever it is

[signal osprey]

Its definitely not

[sharp igloo]

Really? So for max money what obols do you run?

[signal osprey]

Either DR if it would get you a money break point or just wisdom obol

[pearl cedar]

DR probably best

[signal osprey]

I just run DR either way because I dont care and extra keys and statues are nice

[zinc torrent]

Okay, so what rarity i need for those pop/dice obol?

[sharp igloo]

I use DR until I hit a breakpoint, but after that, wis is actually better than money?

[pearl cedar]

12 base wisdom is a lot more actual wisdom

[signal osprey]

But every calss has a talent that increases the stats from obols and theres also a superbit that does the same

So its probably twice as much stats from that alone

Then it gets increased by all stat % bonuses

[vagrant mountain]

12 base wisdom is closer to 50 wisdom for me

[signal osprey]

And lastly you have to factor in that the money bubbles are just stronger than obols because they are a multiplier and the obols are in a large group of additive bonuses

The money bubbles are the second strongest money multi after gmush

Wisdom is the money stat

[sharp igloo]

You want all silver pop obols for your circle slots, gold dice for your squares, blue dice for your hex, and purple dice for your sparkles. Reroll each one until it gives 1 more DR% than normal

[zinc torrent]

Noted

[sharp igloo]

So should I use wis% trinkets instead of money trinkets too?

[signal osprey]

I also use DR for them personally but yeah wisdom would be better there as well

Basically you build your bubo for DR and stats

Only money bonuses you really prioritize are on cards. The money cards are good

[vagrant mountain]

my DR keychains are doggy 😔
wtb 25% DR keychains

[zinc torrent]

Noted. So far i have bronze pop on all circle slot, with stat 3% DR

[pearl cedar]

If your goal is money your best bet is to probably find out your max money breakpoint dr, then go down 1 below that and maximize for stats and money gain cards

[sharp igloo]

You should use 1 hour candies at gigafrogs. They only give 1 bronze pop obol per afk claim, even if its 2000 hours, so lots of small claims are better

[signal osprey]

I'm only a few DR% from 19x in my full wis/money set

[sharp igloo]

My max DR breakpoint for money gain on my bubo is probably 15, so after that, just focus everything on wis?

[signal osprey]

Money cards and then pretty much full wis yeah

[sharp igloo]

Does that apply even if this bubble is as low as it is? I dont even have 20k wis yet

[zinc torrent]

So far im play active on giga than afk, and it make my reset day change 1 day

Another still on lab and cooking

[signal osprey]

My bubble is over 10x higher than that and it gives 17.7%. You're already getting most of its value

[sharp igloo]

Oh active would probably be good there. Active always reseta your daily timer. Just log out, close steam, log back in, and youll get the time back

[signal osprey]

And once again the bubbles are a separate multi whereas obols and keychains are in a large additive group

[zinc torrent]

Ohh, ill try it then. Thanks for the guide

[signal osprey]

The obols and keychains are just very bad in general

[sharp igloo]

So instead of trashing all my wis obols, I should be making dementia wis obols lol?

[signal osprey]

If you want

Like I said I just run a DR set

[sharp igloo]

Would that get me more money than gold money obols?

I run DR on most people, but I want a pure money set for my bubo

[signal osprey]

If you hit a DR breakpoint it will give much more than money obols. If you dont then no it wouldnt but it still wouldnt lose by much because money obols are just that bad lol

[haughty kernel]

why do people like bubo to farm money?

[signal osprey]

He just gets more than other classes really

[chrome tiger]

dr can give more moneys?

[sharp igloo]

Okay thanks.

[haughty kernel]

just for existing? '-'

[chrome tiger]

bubo can respawn normal guys super fast

[sharp igloo]

He instantly respawns mobs, so he kills a lot more per hour, thus more money

[signal osprey]

His respawn mechanic is the best of any elite class so his kph is much higher

More mobs means more money

So yeah pretty much just for existing

[pearl cedar]

Dk is comparable though just not as good and lose out on liquid

[haughty kernel]

Ohh I see, mine is weak yet, so that does not work for me yet 😛 I'm at a point where the DK is better =[

[sharp igloo]

Yeah, every odd number gives more money, but only while active. So like 7x, 9x, 11x etc, all increase active money gain

[chrome tiger]

interesting

thanks

[void hawk]

so now that I have 90 divinity points should I make sacrifices or tithes?

[signal osprey]

I'm pretty sure DK is actually higher although I havent tested it much

Bubo is just way more convenient because you go to wurms anyway for CC

Whereas I dont care to go to wurms on DK

[sharp igloo]

I make wayyyy more money at wurms on my bubo than my DK

[pearl cedar]

If my dk could produce liquid though my god

[signal osprey]

[pearl cedar]

Cause your dk is weak

[signal osprey]

Yeah DK is definitely close to bubo if not better

[void hawk]

can anyone help?

[signal osprey]

Although I think hes better

[sharp igloo]

Lol maybe. I think its more because my bubo is specced for money gains,and my DK is specced for DR

[pearl cedar]

I haven't checked in awhile, but probably better now with all the extra DR we have gotten recently

[signal osprey]

And my DK was being competitive without even trying

I was in a full DR crystal setup doing key farming. Didnt have anything set up for money at all

[vagrant mountain]

my DK makes more than my bubo 😂, but my bubo is gimped

[pearl cedar]

2 more days

[vagrant mountain]

I just try to play DK whenever I can for cons gains

[signal osprey]

My bubo is starting to get pretty jacked ngl

Still dont care about him though because hes not DK

I already gave up on GT

Shit bubble not worth

[vagrant mountain]

XD

[sharp igloo]

Orb only increases xp and drop rate right? How would that increase money more than bubos way higher kph?

[vagrant mountain]

could get 200 cons levels in the time you get 10k GT

[signal osprey]

DR gives money

[pearl cedar]

I only have like 30 levels until 5k feel like I should be doing some more gt

[opaque sun]

DK is the best scaling in terms of farming power as more worlds (book levels are added) while other classes scales down or effectively capped by the game mechanic

[sharp igloo]

Does invisible orb DR count towards those money breakpoints?

[signal osprey]

Not only does it count its much stronger than just adding more DR

It acts kinda similarly to how prowess works but for DR breakpoints

It lowers the amount of DR required for a breakpoint

[pearl cedar]

Yeah each 100 orb effectively halves the dr req

[vagrant mountain]

I avg 900 orb at tremors which is avg 4.5x drop, so my bubo needs to kill more than 4.5x the monsters if they have same money multis

[pearl cedar]

Or something like that it is confusing

[sharp igloo]

Oh thats dope. Maybe ill start farming money on DK instead of bubo then

[haughty kernel]

XD

[vagrant mountain]

I still end up having to use both because of hourly clicks

[signal osprey]

The main reason bubo is still the go to money farmer is because wurms is the best map for money and its also the best map for CC so bubo has to go their anyway

DK has a lot of valuable places to be and most of them make no money

[vagrant mountain]

and after a certain point, you're only pushing money for a few stamps and maybe the divinity blessings if they aren't maxed

[signal osprey]

After a point its just to flex your refinery stamp

[sharp igloo]

I need keys for more capes, so Ill just keep activing DK at wurms for money+keys.

[pearl cedar]

And there's no real flexing when Zelb exists

[vagrant mountain]

show me

I have to go to w3-w4 chat to flex

[signal osprey]

It was 550k for 69 to 70. I think it was about 1.3m or so for the whole 65 to 70

And now almost 1m for a single level

[pearl cedar]

I should go do 71 just to beat you

[signal osprey]

I would surrender

I'm back to DK so I cant make more money anyway

[sharp igloo]

What rank is your red salt?

[signal osprey]

Mines only like 46 or something

[pearl cedar]

87

[sharp igloo]

87???

I just got to 50 today lol, and Ive been running it since w3 launched lol

[pearl cedar]

Gets faster and faster

[signal osprey]

After ranks 23 every time you rank it up it gets faster

Serimo is at like 180 or something

[vagrant mountain]

[sharp igloo]

Wtf lol 180?

[signal osprey]

Its like a 20 hour rank up for him now

[vagrant mountain]

refinery gets faster but cap is always 1m

[pearl cedar]

Well he has doot and checks every char every hour

[signal osprey]

Daily red salt ranks. Sometimes more than 1 per day if the omni procs are good

[pearl cedar]

A lot of refinery procs

[haughty kernel]

what does doot means?

[vagrant mountain]

damn I need to get his little brother to work for me

[signal osprey]

Doot is one of the companions

[pearl cedar]

Only have an older brother and he would never work for me

[vagrant mountain]

it's called an orphanage

[haughty kernel]

Ohh tyvm! I'll check that 😄

[pearl cedar]

I'll make my kids do it

They don't need school

[vagrant mountain]

they can go to idleon school

[bright vine]

For onyx statues I only have to get each onyx unlocked on one character, but have the quest done on all for it to work right?

[signal osprey]

If my childs first word isnt alchemy I consider myself to be a failure as a father

[vagrant mountain]

what if he says "beans"

[signal osprey]

That wouldnt be bad but his job is to click so alch is preferred

[vagrant mountain]

true 😂

"i didn't raise you to stare at beans"

[sharp igloo]

Im gonna be sad when w8 comes around, and the game ends lol

[signal osprey]

W8 is just the prologue to Idleon 2

We get a new crossover event and everything

[sharp igloo]

Idle skilling would like a word lol

[vagrant mountain]

a whole new gem shop to buy out

[signal osprey]

Double archer kilroy week

[void hawk]

why is this 0%?

[swift pecan]

Leave world 5 and go back

It just isn't showing the stats.

[vagrant mountain]

FK you just reminded me to do Kilroy, I got double archers too

[signal osprey]

Join in my suffering

[vagrant mountain]

10 hrs left on my weekly hehe

[vestal delta]

how much damage did you guys have for rift 46?

[signal osprey]

About 130b

[vestal delta]

hmmm ok I'm around 100b but can't get the wormhole 60

[signal osprey]

Are you using the small platforms to the left of the map below the rope?

[vestal delta]

I just pressed auto 😂
lemme try that

[sharp igloo]

If that doesnt work, raise your lightning and chain attack talents

I failed that one at like 250bil damage, then I raised those talents and got it EZ PZ

[visual tangle]

once you have all portals unlocked, is there any reason to level the kill per kill, other than deathnote?

[sharp igloo]

Deathnote is really good. Youll want it for that alone

[visual tangle]

I guess I just need to use a talent reset then so I can fix this mess

thanks

[visual tangle]

I got it at 160-170B and was able to get it finished up using the top most platform

[vestal delta]

guh it's so close

i keep getting to 58/59 😭

[signal osprey]

You running full damage cards?

[vestal delta]

OHH I wasn't using the 30% boss set

[vagrant mountain]

maybe a cold seeker bullet will do the trick

[vestal delta]

hmm I'll try crafting that after this portal attempt

[signal osprey]

Also dropping a weapon power card for sand giant will help a lot

[vestal delta]

ok I'll report back in a sec if those solve it

[visual tangle]

I've never actually used that card before, does it really have a big impact?

[signal osprey]

Only if you're really trying to push active dps

[visual tangle]

believe I used this set for rift 46

[signal osprey]

When compared one to one against a % damage card the damage one is better

But multiple damage cards are additive with each other

[visual tangle]

so if I am pushing max dps then swap the all stats for min dmg?

[signal osprey]

So each one is worse than the last and then sand giant ends up being better than some

Probably weapon power

Weapon power is kinda shit

[still comet]

Hey which part of world 5 should i focus on switching to get the green weapon thingys in tab 4 of smithing

[signal osprey]

Oh wait my bad for some reason your image didn't show up. I would assume swapping out whatever your lowest damage % card would be best

[obsidian nacelle]

you mean world 4 right?

[signal osprey]

The more of them you stack the less useful they are

[still comet]

Nope i have still not unlocked tab 4

But my void wand is doing pretty good on itself

[visual tangle]

then you don't need to worry about w5 yet

[still comet]

That's tab 4, I'm at the place with the pig pirate

[twilit goblet]

Is quick slap the bubble to atom for dmg?

[vestal delta]

LETS GOOOOOOO

thanks for the help!!!

[visual tangle]

sorry, I have no idea what you are talking about then

[obsidian nacelle]

so your asking what components are needed for the green weapons in tab 4 ? cause if so its only like one thing from w4 the rest are trapping, fishing and anvil

[twilit goblet]

did u have mega crit bro?

[still comet]

The hardest past of this for me is frigid soul

My worst nightmare

[obsidian nacelle]

where are you in world progression if i may ask..

[vestal delta]

yeah

[twilit goblet]

ahh ty

i did rift 46 barely at 260b , but im seeing a lot doing it at 130b

[still comet]

The forth level of world 5

[twilit goblet]

so it should be megacrit

[obsidian nacelle]

dude had an ULTRAcrit XD

[visual tangle]

can't wait to finish up these last 3 statues -_-

[vestal delta]

ah yeah I just did wormhole at 140b, but still have the last 2 afk ones to do

[twilit goblet]

only 1 afk, almost there!

[vestal delta]

ohhh that's a nice surprise :D

[visual tangle]

so close to free 5* cards!

[obsidian nacelle]

then making the tab 4 should be easy, imo
if its just frigid souls giving you the problem focus on worship for it for a bit

[twin token]

How many rattler stacks for citringe territory

[signal osprey]

Itll be different for everyone

[manic moat]

What is the best classes to clear the map on rift?

[twin token]

Safge

[twin token]

Probs es

[still comet]

Its not worshipping my friend, IT'S F*CKING TOWER DEFENSE, the world most horrendous skill in the world (for me)

[twin token]

Just turn off portal

[rapid shale]

es cuz metor, dk for slashy attack

[visual tangle]

and make sure you have this on when claiming souls

[still comet]

It's definitely ES

[manic moat]

I must not be strong enough then, Since I need it on 3, what is the next best?

[rapid shale]

ES DK

[still comet]

Forgot to buy those things, just make them, and now my yellow soul is gone

[manic moat]

ty all

[obsidian nacelle]

let me guess, your towers are low leveled arent they

[crisp silo]

Seems like a non consume chance issue

[rapid shale]

prob true, Worship is the easiest skill tot level up imo

[still comet]

Basically like a domino
One is not enough the other suffers

[visual tangle]

it says 125% chance but I never actually use any up

[still comet]

For me leveling up towera

[visual tangle]

i guess because bubbles and stuff

[still comet]

What kinds of Buble do you have than makes so you don't consume foods?

[vestal delta]

Bite But Not Chew, bubble 20 iirc

[crisp silo]

It caps non cunsume chance at 99%

[obsidian nacelle]

go level up your towers level in construction some then try again, i guarantee you will have an easier time and thus, will gain more souls

[stable berry]

It’s been like 5 months since I’ve done tower defense been mindlessly leveling up towers. Should I attempt ?

[still comet]

Sure, but probably will take some day considering gaining those charge slowly will take time

And leveling up towers

[crisp silo]

Damn some days for a tower

How nice

[obsidian nacelle]

how low is your construction speed??

[still comet]

28,9k/hr

[vestal delta]

almost the funny number

immense disappointment

[still comet]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
IT HIDES THE FUNNY NUMBER

[obsidian nacelle]

should get that up to 50k for now, level some of the beginning towers and then go at the TD again- you wont regret it

[sonic radish]

we back to 13 boys

[still comet]

Di some "minor adjustment"
Now its 38,2k

[cursive flare]

there's not a way to see current food consume chance in-game right?

[obsidian nacelle]

niceee

[still comet]

And by minor adjustment i mean preventing all my character from making cogs for them to be forced to be enslaved upgrading towers for the elderly

Wait now its 46k
Just make my switched my DK from fighting to mining mode

[obsidian nacelle]

just gotta work them cogs

[eager bolt]

currently crying about the fact that i didn't realize there's a 2nd upgrade page in the Forge

[glacial venture]

you mean bubble and boost?

[eager bolt]

i need sleep

ignore that message and understand it always said forge

[foggy apex]

whats the link to pet and spices guide? the whiteboard website one

[opaque sun]

whiteboard? You mean like the spreadsheet?

[thin kernel]

so after like 2 weeks of not getting a artifacts eldritch form.. i have now in 3 days getting 3 of them

[foggy apex]

ye

[thin kernel]

so now only lantern and Giants eye left and im "done" whit shipping XD

[opaque sun]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[foggy apex]

thsnkd

thanks*

[hot prawn]

Does anyone have the sheet for the 777 sailing achievement?

[tight ridge]

i just unlocked alchemist which side do i make?

[ancient quail]

what's the use for Pong?

[tight ridge]

you play it and highscore gives a multiplier to bits

[boreal scaffold]

Idk Man i dont have it

[spring yarrow]

How can I increase my chance of getting hampter drop from stiltmoles?

[boreal scaffold]

Drop rate

[tight ridge]

high drop rate on ES would probably farm you the most

[spring yarrow]

Okay thank you,

any particular builds for drop rate?

cards, and whatnot?

[boreal scaffold]

Doot, crystal carrot, bop boxes, mimic, mister brightside

[tight ridge]

this what im running

[boreal scaffold]

Well whats The Best mob for Double sixes obol

[viral snow]

For dice
Sandpots/tysons or snelbies

[tight ridge]

you get them from w2

[vagrant mountain]

the one on the right of your screenshot

[lavish grotto]

Is this worth doing for green stacks?

[wind umbra]

no reason not too unless you are strapped for cash

[lavish grotto]

Well these are dirt cheap, the question is if it’s worth the time for green stacks

[foggy timber]

Do you have the atom collider unlocked?

[tight ridge]

yes

[wind umbra]

i do it evry day, up to you if u want to do that

[foggy timber]

To the right there is another section for anblb. I go with that.

[opaque sun]

right if you can still level up diamond chef bubble using spices. Left if spice cost too high and never going to level it normally

[tight ridge]

yeah i havent leveld my spice bubbles much

[sharp igloo]

Am I the only one who doesnt have any chest space whatsoever lol? I feel like half of my shit is being stored in my character's inventories

[vagrant mountain]

yup I have like 10 lucky lads and 1 page of random shit on all my chars

equips need to stack in storage

[vestal delta]

anyone have a list of unusual but feasible greenstack items to go for?

[vagrant mountain]

quest items

I'm doing time thingys right now

dog bones are good

monster ratings, stone things for Amarok quest, etc

[vestal delta]

oh good shout, hope I haven't handed in those quests on every character

[twilit goblet]

that's a lot of bars to collect o.o

[wind umbra]

if u claim the bars on a char with low bar cap u get more cards

[gray pagoda]

So what are y'all thinking, new update soon or is Lava working on that new PR? 💪

He hasn't posted anything new in a while

[fallen torrent]

we might hear about him this weekend or monday and then up

[gray pagoda]

Probably. With the new server name he has though, wouldn't surprise me if he's giving himself a break to work on a new PR. Man deserves it, he's been working hard to bring us these past few updates.

[lost tendon]

how u get so many pop's, just high DR?

[steel linden]

which map is best to farm 100k statues on with bubonic?

[gray pagoda]

Why farm on bubo?

[steel linden]

for the quest, you need to farm on the character itself right?

[tight ridge]

yeah they werent dropping at all before so I farmed out the dice obols first with dk, then got the pops on my ES after

[gray pagoda]

Active ES is the best to use for pops. It'll take a little while, but it's worth it (or so I've heard lol).

[lost tendon]

ahhh why did you not do the dice with your ES? is DK better?

[gray pagoda]

I'm not sure, but I don't think so

[tight ridge]

ES is good for stuff in the primary loot table of a mob like pop obols and rare mats, dk is better for the stuff in the rare loot bags

[gray pagoda]

Way better. Best way to get dice is through W2 crystal mobs, and DK is the best for crystal farming by far.

[fallen torrent]

i mean DK for dice is quite easy in W2

and the quest requires your char to loot 100k Statue on each char yeah

[lost tendon]

Hmm aight aight, does it matter where in W2?

[fallen torrent]

hmmm sandpot/tyson/snelbie

3 good map

[gray pagoda]

Oh, fr? That's... gonna really suck. Is it 100k Amy statue total, 100k of a specific statue, or 100k of any one statue?

[steel linden]

thanks! what is the best map for bubonic to do this?

its 100k statues in total

so you can mix them

[gray pagoda]

Sweet

[steel linden]

i did it on my DK and ES already, but not on bb yet

[gray pagoda]

That's definitely gonna be a pain in the ass lol

[fallen torrent]

hm i could try it but

[steel linden]

haha it took me about 24 hours active farming on dk and on ES

[fallen torrent]

walknig stick seems good i think with crystal chance

let me check up

[gray pagoda]

Yeah, I've heard that sticks is good for statues. You get a lot from the sticks themselves, with them being able to drop accuracy statues, and crystals drop even more statues, so it's a good spot to farm at.

[steel linden]

oh sticks drop accuracy?

definitely going to be sticks then, still need 20k of those

[gray pagoda]

I believe so. It is the bullseye ones they drop, right?

[fallen torrent]

yeah walking sticks seem good

and yeah stick and nutto drop those

[steel linden]

ya i just checked

thanks guys 🙂

[gray pagoda]

Ok, that's what I thought

Np, happy to help. You're a bit farther than I am, but still, I'll help when I can lol.

[steel linden]

haha we'll get there together 😄

[fallen torrent]

with poison and revive you can actually cover lot

and theres lot of sticks

[gray pagoda]

Nah. I gotta wait for December for Choco chip to roll around before I can do any serious farming

[steel linden]

ah ya without choco chip this is just not worth the time i think

takes way too long

i actually had so many power statues but i used them all, forgot you need 20k per character for that quest >.<

[fallen torrent]

or actually maybe nutto could be better

shorter map so better use of the revive

[gray pagoda]

After around 2 weeks of active DK (with me picking up items every hour or so, as I don't have auto loot), and a ton of desync, I got around 2k statues.

[fallen torrent]

testing

[tight ridge]

damn I would just focus on other things cuz this is not worth the time at all

[steel linden]

ya honestly i'd buy the auto loot as well, even with choco you will need that

[tight ridge]

juice your account in other ways until december

[gray pagoda]

Yeah I know. Currently working on dice/pop again. Figured I may as well get higher DR while waiting for choco

Sitting at almost 7x DR on DK. I think I have 6.93.

[vagrant mountain]

you're still playing the free trial without autoloot

[fallen torrent]

mehh not sure anymore for bubo

[vagrant mountain]

Idleon Lite

[fallen torrent]

imma try rat/poop

[gray pagoda]

I'm not the type of person who buys stuff for games. I have been considering it more though. Most of the reason I don't buy stuff is cause I feel like I won't play the game again. IdleOn is different, and I do play daily, so maybe I will get it.

[steel linden]

ya its a difficult one with bb, can't figure it out either

[fallen torrent]

we need a small map

trying sandcastle W2

[gray pagoda]

It can just be any statue right?

[steel linden]

ya any statue is fine, but i think w1 drops the most total statues right?

[fallen torrent]

i'd say sandcastle would be good cause revive hit both platform and map is small but good spawnrate

any statue

[gray pagoda]

So it needs to be a small map with decent mob density with the mob having a statue as a rare drop.

[vagrant mountain]

unfortunately lava lied to you when he said this game was f2p friendly

[gray pagoda]

Not many of those, I'm afraid

[tight ridge]

for me a game that entertains me for this long deserves the 2 dollars xD

[gray pagoda]

Trust me, I know. I am proud of how much I've accomplished being completely f2p though.

[gray pagoda]

It's only 2 dollars for the auto loot?

[vagrant mountain]

I think it's $6

[steel linden]

i thought it was 5, but its years ago for me haha

[fallen torrent]

yeah sandcastle is satisfyuing!\

[vagrant mountain]

like $5.95

[fallen torrent]

bubo=sandcastle=lovely

[steel linden]

awesome im going to give that a try then! thanks mate

[gray pagoda]

Oh, geez, I thought it was like one of the bundles, where it's like $20.

Way cheaper than I thought

[tight ridge]

nah it was a pretty cheap purchase well worth it honestly

[fallen torrent]

Yw knarf

[tight ridge]

but i dont blame you if you dont get it after the shady updates recently

[vagrant mountain]

it's supposed to be the gateway bundle that moistens you up for the rest of the bundles

[fallen torrent]

already at 1.1k statue looted since i tested knarf

[gray pagoda]

How exactly does auto loot work? Do you have to walk on the items to pick them up, like the SB's skull coins, or is it like event boxes, where they automatically go in your inventory after a certain amount of time?

[fallen torrent]

only at sandcastle