lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[onyx fern]

So seems hard to measure

[opaque sun]

101 vs 83 sounds like statue drop for 1 hr candy

[onyx fern]

But that info is listed at the end notes, so. . .

[opaque sun]

Endnotes probably 1hr score of rashaken, not trick’s

[onyx fern]

63 penguin, 52 sheepie is the /hr amount

[opaque sun]

basically just bad use of note columns

[onyx fern]

Fair, ig
1.6 rasha seems crazy though

[opaque sun]

2x differences is common sight if one just helped out the comparison on a casual set up, while other was in full dr setup

[onyx fern]

Rasha slacking moment 😔

[frail stag]

Heck yeah made it to world five 🥂

[eager sedge]

Now divinity jail for a month

[rough wasp]

https://gyazo.com/f15ccd991c8fc02dfcd30d3065a8dffd

😦

[frail stag]

Oh dear a whole month?

[eager sedge]

Probably

[fallen torrent]

dang, 34Degree in my living room cause my friends left the closed and closed the windows and all day... ugh i need help xD

[eager sedge]

Depends how fast u get every1 to lvl 40 div

[full forum]

anyone got a guide for vman speedrunning, but when your vman is only level 190 and not optimal yet?

the guide in tips and tricks is a bit ahead of where i am

[opaque sun]

level 190 can get portal 60 so level itself isnt a good indicator

Guide in tips and tricks applies to everyone basically tho

You just reach lower portal if weak. Not like you run differently

[full forum]

hmm, ok

[rough wasp]

I needa work on my vman portals :/

[zenith cape]

I'm gunna lose it. Bored beans are just giving me every statue but the power statues

[eager sedge]

They have a much lower chsnce to drop that s why

I got my speed to 60k before hitting 20k power

[zenith cape]

Was there a propper guide to get these statues or is it just leave dk on auto all day?

🤔

[warped grail]

DK with drop and crystal

almost all

[eager sedge]

W3 statues=es oceanman catching flies in w2

[full forum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLtD_LcK9ZQ

[cursive forge]

hi I just got my second god

what should I do again

[zenith cape]

Thanks

[cursive forge]

these guys link to second god right

[zenith cape]

You'll have to manually link the characters to the bear god

At the divinity statue

[cursive forge]

but I link those character to seocnd god right

and then the remaining ones can leave div and go back to do their thing

[zenith cape]

Yea

[cursive forge]

[zenith cape]

I left all of mine on div tho

Cuz I want the other gods

[fallen torrent]

11k big nugget. i want 28k+ dangit

[rotund smelt]

Idk how long I've been stuck with my 20k nugget at this point

[ancient vine]

It's so pure rng that i jump 19k to 198k

🥹i wish you the best

[exotic juniper]

yea i wnt from 7.4k to 155. havent seen anywhere inbetween

[versed cypress]

nugget... the worst rng sink in the game

and sucks cause some of the best upgrades you can get are locked behind getting the jackpot and getting a super huge nugget for a massive boost and be able to unlock both snail and the super bits

[vagrant mountain]

the nug is a lie

[urban ridge]

am I blind...? Where did tips n tricks go

[eager sedge]

#1084911530417606656

[urban ridge]

thank you, for some reason it disappeared until I clicked that

[eager sedge]

👍

Np

[twilit goblet]

mann guys the molten claw recipe aint dropping after a few days of ES activing

is there no way around it except for just RNG

im on 15 DR

[exotic juniper]

which recipe?

[twilit goblet]

molten core, Sugma

[exotic juniper]

the 1/50,000,000?

[twilit goblet]

yea that's the one

[runic girder]

Got a spare

[exotic juniper]

apparently i got it from sugma but dont have it unlocked. 💀

[twilit goblet]

gimmeee

[runic girder]

!recipedrop

[obtuse orbit]

Recipe drops are a bit different from the other drops when you view them on your card. If the recipe is black, it means you have never picked up a recipe from that anvil tab. If your recipe is lit up it means you have found one from that anvil tab, lucky you! However, if you learn a recipe, that specific recipe will no longer be displayed at all on that monsters card.

[exotic juniper]

oh good to know

[twilit goblet]

i assume i havent got it yet, since it is black

[exotic juniper]

ive been trying to get my drop rate up. just got family tree looking good

oh shoot i didnt see lone blue obol of luk rip

need another pop

[exotic juniper]

Imagine youve filtered it out lol

[lone kindle]

just went from 2k nugget to 65k nugget after 2 months. It took a while, but dang was it worth it

[exotic juniper]

congrats

[lone kindle]

out of curiosity, what's the highest nugget people have seen you think?

[exotic juniper]

someone had 493k

[lone kindle]

sheesh

maybe someday haha

[exotic juniper]

@lone kindle #achievement-pics message

[twilit goblet]

just did a double take, it wasnt filtered, just need to grind more i guess

[surreal kernel]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

In progress guide to everything about Idleon. Has builds and explanation on early mechanics
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BpkkUGPSznTOvEMenognPllGvjTchAkcvHUKqrcu64/edit?usp=drivesdk
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[ashen marsh]

is Tiger the last divinity?

oh nvm

is there someone I should attach to Tiger?

[dapper prism]

Could do something like BM or VMAN, Best if either of them is already 40+ div for TranQi

[ashen marsh]

damn, i barely 31 div with BM

[paper mist]

what difficulty of troll gives the best scales per key?

[granite condor]

What’s the deal with rates being so much harder than what the card rates say? I have 6x DR and millions of kills, yet still no Clogs drop even though it says 1/166k chance?

[dapper prism]

Keep in mind MK does not affect drops

(except base mob drop)

[dapper prism]

Can you show me your afk info window btw?

[granite condor]

Soz bunny, also reposted to Gen Chat since I thought here was dead. Didn’t realize multikill was ONLY base mob drop

[dapper prism]

Is that with both Nobi and Lab or just one of them?

[granite condor]

He does have Nobi. What you mean Lab? Nodes are endgamed

[dapper prism]

Lab node for 2x kill...

and what? lab nodes arnt "endgame" xD

[exotic juniper]

i think he means he has all lab nodes

he is in "endgame" of lab stuff

[granite condor]

Ah yes, have the 2x kills node as well

[barren otter]

@dapper prism i resampled after i asked you for the checklist

samples ended up being way higher than i was expecting

[dapper prism]

lol, i still need to do mine too 😄

[barren otter]

my mages

[ashen marsh]

@dapper prism I think it's best to work on a new recipe when chip/jewels reset right so I can use ladles for food + recipe

[dapper prism]

Easiest would just be to active ES.
Your DR could easily be pushed higher, but else you could just wait and go for the afk guaranteed drops, although that'd be pretty slow, still better than doing 10h claims without anything
https://i.imgur.com/wSdE66o.png

[dapper prism]

Very nice 😄

[unreal fox]

hi guys, anyone have best console set for char?

[vagrant mountain]

assuming you mean chips, both black chips and all orange chips + choco/afk chip

[ashen marsh]

i just opened all my coolers and turns out you can still get it after event is over

i should toss these right

[solid epoch]

Dang ur a lil higher than my sample now

Mine are around 1.1B

[ashen marsh]

the - skill exp gain doesnt affect lab right

[zenith cape]

I'd imagine it would

[ashen marsh]

😮

[bright swift]

it affects everything, which is why everyone says not to keep skilled dimwit on

you only need it while printing

sampling*

thats it

[ashen marsh]

oh damn

[bright swift]

you should never have it on your chars if you not sampling

[zenith cape]

Damn. That's good to know

[ashen marsh]

i noticed that I get higher exp while mining on my vm

[bright swift]

i guess thats the other exception if the efficiency breaks a certain threshold it may provide better exp

but in generally you dont want to just have it on while doign other stuff

[mossy void]

how much do boat captain stats increase per level?

[ashen marsh]

I should take it off for cooking right

[bright swift]

as it affects your gaming exp etc

[barren otter]

bunch of my 2hr clicks are now 1hr

[bright swift]

it gives you more ladles

if you want ladles

but it does tank your exp

[ashen marsh]

does higher cooking = more ladles?

higher cooking lvl*

[bright swift]

depends on effiency tiers

for ladles

you can see in your screenshot skilled dimwit puts it 5x

which gives you more ladles

but less exp

to answer your question though

levels give efficiency

[vapid warren]

Is Gaming generally a really easy skill to level up? I think I got really really lucky with nuggets in the beginning.

[ashen marsh]

omg

[vapid warren]

What haha

[ashen marsh]

super high

[mossy void]

from lvl 1 to lvl2, how much does a captain bonus increase?

[vapid warren]

I think it increments by what its stats are at lvl 1

[clear quartz]

how important would yall rank getting points itno this one ?

[vapid warren]

so if its 10% at lvl 1, its 40% at lvl 4

[ashen marsh]

@bright swift

[clear quartz]

figure ill probably just focus on boron to max first, but kinda wanna pump up build speed

[solid epoch]

Nice! I might redo my mining samples soon, they are garbage compared to my chopping. Getting some of those ore bubbles down to hourly will be nice

[ashen marsh]

I dont think it affects lab

[severe axle]

any point in research dna in gaming after getting chemical?

[vapid warren]

@ashen marsh In my first click of the spade, I got a like 54.4g nugget, I think thats wwhat catapulted it.

[ashen marsh]

jesus, that's so high. I'm like 3.8k right now

[barren otter]

yea my mining samples are slacking too highest is 700m

[vapid warren]

Right now im at 1139

[solid epoch]

Way better than mine lul

[barren otter]

a lot of clicks now...

need liquid sigil more than ever

[solid epoch]

my best ore lol

[barren otter]

my iron is almost close to that...

[solid epoch]

yeah its been a lil bit. my fishing sample is also

https://i.imgur.com/MnZ2Xcg.png

[barren otter]

bruh

i thought that was 37m and was gonna say thats fine

but 37k????

[solid epoch]

yeah seeing as how i sampled and left 5 slots empty i think it mightve been before we got 5 extra slots

https://i.imgur.com/c9dFaYK.png

oh lol this too

[barren otter]

kinda rough getting decent fishing samples tho

[solid epoch]

ok i really should fix it holy moly

[barren otter]

i can click droprate bubble every 2hrs though

so theres that

[solid epoch]

i was gonna work on the bugsack stamp to get enough capacity for 210 multitool but realized I have no hermit cans

[barren otter]

youll get there with your 20k sample

eventually...

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/KPWaw54.png

yeah i mean its been goin but not fast enough. could get more green stacks easily if i redid it too

[barren otter]

yea 4 extra greenstacks from teh new fish

and then ill forget about them until W6 release

[solid epoch]

was ur fishing sample recent?

[barren otter]

90

[solid epoch]

90 days ago?

[barren otter]

O

nah those were today

i resampled everyone

[solid epoch]

dang nice

i can only do like 3 a day

[barren otter]

its pain but id rather do all of em at once

this was 2 hrs ago

so more than 2x'd my fishing stuff

[solid epoch]

what do ur warrior bubbles look like

[barren otter]

man how do you even get a good screenshot of this

[solid epoch]

idk sometimes the page doesnt let me zoom out

[barren otter]

kind of slacking on these ngl

still need to 90% two of the skilling bubbles

[eager sedge]

This is a pain

[solid epoch]

roughly the same as mine, good to know

[surreal glade]

I'll try to take my shot here

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/3gfJ3Ic.png

[surreal glade]

But can someone help me? I was trying to find out why my ES have absurdly low base worship eff, and my BB have higher eff. Despite my ES havubg higher wis

[gentle furnace]

What prayer is your es using

[vagrant mountain]

check your skulls and talents

[surreal glade]

I'm both on fighting preset

Testing with no skulls

Both have dimwit prayers, I believe that's the only one that matters

In theory my ES should have higher base eff, because of higher wis

[gentle furnace]

this reduces your eff a bunch if you're using it

[twilit goblet]

nice warrior bubbless, can i see mage bubbles?

[barren otter]

oh yea you might end with higher prints than me

[solid epoch]

yeah the multipliers bubbles are higher, u do have a higher stronk tools tho

[surreal glade]

I don't have that. I have giant prayer, dimwit, unending energy and precision

[solid epoch]

i need to fully 245 my guys stuff lol

[vagrant mountain]

statues and golden peanuts are a strong factor in mining samples

[barren otter]

safe to say you're going to be in the 750mil+ range on copper

oh all my miners have 245 on everything

[gentle furnace]

how big is the difference

[solid epoch]

yeah i trolled with books

slow at using them

[surreal glade]

198 to 290

My ES have higher wis and got one worship obol

[barren otter]

same i only just got everyone's tab 1 efficiency books finished today

[solid epoch]

jk that one wasnt mine hold on

was looking at someone elses IE lol

[gentle furnace]

send ie

[barren otter]

whoevers IE that was went HAM on severapurple

[surreal glade]

https://emberen.idleonefficiency.com

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/OZbeeGj.png

theres mine

also went ham on severapurple lul

[gentle furnace]

your bb has rex rings

[surreal glade]

My ES have it as well

[gentle furnace]

you didnt update your ie b4 sending

im seeing your ie on 9/5

[twilit goblet]

nice bubbles, i might need to pump more cooking roadkill too, seems like hourly clicks are taking up so muc liquid

[surreal glade]

https://emberen.idleonefficiency.com

How about this?

[solid epoch]

yeah ive recently been working on increasing my water rate too

[barren otter]

oo you can still 90% two more logging bubbles

[gentle furnace]

your bb is on skill eff card set while your es isnt

[surreal glade]

I tried swapping

[solid epoch]

yeah tree sleeper and slabe logsoul i havent done yet

because im spending all atoms on quick slap lul

[gentle furnace]

and your es worship level is higher than mman while your bb is lower

[surreal glade]

It became 215-280, before it was 198-280

[solid epoch]

could probably print those scarabs for slabe logsoul

[surreal glade]

Ah that explains things... Curses

I wonder how do I fix this

[barren otter]

gl with that lmao

[twilit goblet]

do these actually add a bunch to sampling or are they kindawhatever?

[twilit goblet]

nicee, how did you get them so high? just a lot of bubo and pumping rates?

[solid epoch]

those 2 bubbles arent as vital which is why i didnt care as much lol

[surreal glade]

Thank you

[twilit goblet]

or is it from the stamp that uses the sand pot drops

never enough liquid 1 orz

[solid epoch]

yeah pumping rates, been working on that stamp too. my water rates are 160-180 across the 3 cauldrons

[twilit goblet]

ah makes sense

[opaque sun]

for cap, the limited time shop dragonic cauldrons are big boost

But else, its mostly just bunch of decanting

[solid epoch]

i still could get +17% liquid speed and cap from salt lick because my trapping sucks and i havent finished that yet. im actually working on trapping now tho so it shouldnt take long

[fleet merlin]

Hi, is there a chat here for trading pets? I have a tradeable Crystal Custerd duplicate and was wondering if anyone had a king doot duplicate willing to trade

[barren otter]

is this with the sigil?

[solid epoch]

yeah

[barren otter]

ah

[twilit goblet]

shinyy

[barren otter]

no sigil yet

[twilit goblet]

dont even have the speed up sigil yet

sigil is true sign of account age

[solid epoch]

im just working on my last 2 sigils then i will be able to start swapping off of them.

[twilit goblet]

big timegate

[dapper prism]

Mhm, meet in the middle xD
https://i.imgur.com/4ecd3xn.png

[barren otter]

same...

[dapper prism]

Are we though, are we really 😉

[dapper prism]

Mine is nearly done 👀

[solid epoch]

only 203 days for this one

[barren otter]

close enough...

[crisp silo]

Measly 200 days

[solid epoch]

ill get the w6 sigil in 30 days tho

[dapper prism]

is that with sigil boosts?

[twilit goblet]

lmao 200 days..

[dapper prism]

gemshop*

[solid epoch]

yeah i bought 10/10 sigil boosts

[dapper prism]

Sigils surely are the biggest joke

[solid epoch]

like on release of sigils

[dapper prism]

By the time you even reach what you need, you're done with those skills xD

[solid epoch]

but i havent minmaxed it and prob missed a few days here and there without knowing it was done on some of them. surely theres people a bit farther

[barren otter]

i need like 55 days to finish the liquid sigil and after that i really couldnt care about the rest

[solid epoch]

then u gotta gild the liquid sigil

[barren otter]

yea so i need like 265 days to finish the liquid sigil and after that i dont care

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/n291tW8.png

If 1.5k is 3 days for me.. then ill still need 76 days to get to liquid regen and unlock the basic version of it

[vagrant mountain]

I have a feeling I won't even be playing anymore by the time I get to liquid sigil 😭

[tawdry locust]

planning to crystal farm in w2 for some behoder statues, which area do yall recco?

[dapper prism]

W6 or this could solve a lot of sigil issues:
https://i.imgur.com/cx1aNCv.png

[solid epoch]

maybe in w6 he will add something that boosts sigil speed

[dapper prism]

Add sigil speed as an unlock to it (along with more bit multipliers to finish up gaming superbits)

[barren otter]

yea an additive 50%

so it makes no diff

[solid epoch]

id even take it if he just let u put more than 4 characters on a specific sigil

[vagrant mountain]

maybe in w6, he will add another sigil page

[solid epoch]

id slam 8-10 on liquid to get it down to 100 days

[barren otter]

oh easily

[solid epoch]

one can only hope

i need more sigils to push once i unlock this last one lol

[vagrant mountain]

the easiest fix to sigils would be to just make cranium cooking apply to sigils

[solid epoch]

it would make everyone finish sigils in a week tho

or less

[vagrant mountain]

but knowing lava, the code is designed to make it impossible

[barren otter]

i get 116 hrs per CC

id be done with all gilded sigils so fast

[dapper prism]

Could just make sigil timers longer

[vagrant mountain]

would probably be at least 2 weeks of active bubo

[solid epoch]

apparently cranium actually affected sigils but it was patched. i never knew about it if/when it was a thing

[dapper prism]

Make sigils take 10x or 50x longer but allow CC to affect it

[barren otter]

id be done in 3 days

[solid epoch]

mustve been a day 1 patch or somethin

[vagrant mountain]

you think so with all the gilded upgrades too?

[solid epoch]

i mean with how much CC gives rn. people get over a years worth of alchemy every day

[vagrant mountain]

hmm

[barren otter]

yea 420k CC avg every 9 mins

[solid epoch]

for me to gild water only takes like 260 days

[barren otter]

thats nearly 5 days of alch prog in 10 mins

[vagrant mountain]

let's say 20 days/hr

ok yeah I guess you guys are right 😂

[barren otter]

[dapper prism]

Doing some math, with Gemshop items, 1.5k days = 3 days (roughly

Since most things for gold tier are 45k around the center, thats 2160 hours, or 22x CC's at 100h which with 4x CC an hour would make it 5-6h for a gold sigil.

Easy solution would be making Sigils require 10x or 20x more progress, 2.5-3 to 5 days per gold sigil itself, isn't that bad, but also not that great. Keep in mind that a 100h cc is pretty late on for people

Especially since 99% of the sigil bonuses at the end give 0 benefit.

"Play 5 years to unlock sailing treasure and divinity XP, or even better, lab xp"

[barren otter]

id much rather it be 10x/20x more but CC able

[dapper prism]

yeh same, at least you could work towards it and it would actually "give a benefit" for half the stuff that has no purpose once you're through the huge time gate

[solid epoch]

so ur getting 777.7 days of alch per day ur active. or 2.13 years per day of active

p gud lol

[barren otter]

that seems a little high no?

[dapper prism]

400h per hour (16 days+/h)

[solid epoch]

well u get 4.861 days per 9 mins, multiply by 6.66 to get ur hourly which was 32.4 days per hr, then multiply by 24 which is 777.777 days per day

[dapper prism]

Eh, 5 days per 9min, is your cc cycle 9min?

[barren otter]

i get 2 CCs finished in 20 mins yea

[dapper prism]

dafq, big bubblllle?

[barren otter]

when i start with CC

[dapper prism]

Also, can't take the highest end person

[solid epoch]

i mean all u gotta do is atom or hourly click cookin roadkill up to like 1000 and u will get similar results

[dapper prism]

Like, with a 350 Roadkill (100%) and good Crystal rate it was around 14min/cycle

[barren otter]

yea the 14% makes a big difference

cause 14% longer and 14% shorter cd

[dapper prism]

True, but by the time you can do that, you'd once again be finished with most the benefits sigils give anyways

The balance needs to be "this is a low skill, with low benefits, for skills that are mostly whatever..." and you only get all these benefits once you're late-end game and don't need them

[barren otter]

another option could be to have a percentage of CC apply to sigils

[dapper prism]

Yeh, either just make sigil timers 10x longer, or that ^ 10% of CC goes to sigil

Quest gate it if you really want too xD

Allow the person to gradually increase the %

[barren otter]

ill take it

[dapper prism]

It's like.. by the time people will even unlock this:
https://i.imgur.com/hmqgMit.png

World 7 or 8 will be out

[solid epoch]

nah ill have it pre w6

[barren otter]

i mean by the time i even start that ill be way past finished with W6...

[dapper prism]

People isn't just you..

[solid epoch]

just start playing the game earlier

[barren otter]

that W6 sigil better not be big

ill be sad

[solid epoch]

i hope its the biggest boost ever

[dapper prism]

Yeh, also maybe just be born 30-40 years early and buy a house after working a summer job for 2 weeks

[solid epoch]

+100% afk gain for all w6 skills

[barren otter]

-50% efficiency for all W6 skills

[dapper prism]

It'll be "W6 boss has a 0.1% chance to drop a blue gem" kinda thing xD

https://tenor.com/view/much-wow-dogecoin-doge-shiba-gif-23333564

[solid epoch]

id take that bonus on the condition that its a green gem

[dapper prism]

I expected w5 boss to give a green gem or possible rare drop for more companion rolls

But either way, if it ends up in a pool, it defeats the purpose of the green gem

[barren otter]

yea give green gem drops on W6 bosses

[dapper prism]

maybe through the new mission/task battle pass thing xD

[barren otter]

damn i thought larry could go over 120%

but even getting to 115% its like lvl 2450

[solid epoch]

nah 120 is it

[barren otter]

think i stop at 115% then lmao

[solid epoch]

ye same

im clicking every 2 hrs so its goin slow

boosted the library bubble to +90% checkout speed then i stopped

[barren otter]

i can hourly click it in 7 days

[barren otter]

only to not use them every 20 books

[solid epoch]

exactly

i keep letting it get to 40+ checkouts lol

[dapper prism]

Looks familiar 👀
https://i.imgur.com/8CEi0gV.png

[barren otter]

it used to be "20 books takes way too long" to "oh i have 40+ books wtf"

[solid epoch]

dang i ran out of void bars

ehh ima just leave it off for now. need to rank up my green salt more

[dapper prism]

Guess tomorrow morning I can go for another 1 (maybe 2) capes, i like saving them to 10k keys
https://i.imgur.com/asMwwBt.png

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/tGWOzko.png

my main fisher with his void rod lmao

[barren otter]

[solid epoch]

at least i recently boosted his class lvl up from like 360 to 432 so he can equip the divine scarf

he was my cook forever

[barren otter]

damn 90 worship on him though

[solid epoch]

i think i last sampled pre w4 maybe

oh yeah i did that a few days ago. leveled from like 50 worship to 90 like instantly on most characters when i actually used their charge

instead of feeding it to the ES

[barren otter]

I need to do that for the 1k

but I did get vman over my es finally

had to go from 101 to 121...

[solid epoch]

mine is close. Vman is currently lvl 115 and my ES is lvl 120

taking a while for these last few lvls

[barren otter]

ccd just takes too long man

even at 1 in 9 crystal rate

[solid epoch]

oh i havent been doing that at all. maybe i should do that lul

[barren otter]

I had to for 110+ worship

it's just too slow without it

[dapper prism]

Vman rank 1 ftw?
https://i.imgur.com/pfmW2ZP.png

speaking of worship... i seriously need to go back to TD :/

It just takes so damn long..

[solid epoch]

yeah ive been working on it finally. i might be able to get 10 more waves on goblin if i redo and maybe 20 on acorn

[barren otter]

I've gained 9 lvls in on poison since the last time I did td

and like 80% td dmg from atoms

[barren otter]

yea I need to do mine

[dapper prism]

Think i was 43-46ish poison, now 61, plus yeh a ton of towers too

[solid epoch]

just redid wakawaka war today. almost made it to wave 140 but not quite

they barely broke through at wave 138

[barren otter]

the gain is so minor though

from all 110 to 120

[solid epoch]

sometimes u gain +20 levels tho

because sometimes the next 10 waves are easier

like wave 130 of wakawaka was easier than 120

[dapper prism]

yeh like goblin

[solid epoch]

im just doing it so that i can actually work on maxing my vials finally

[barren otter]

but my beans time...

[somber path]

120 was a bitch for wakka, took me like 3 hours just for that wave because I refused to sell a kraken

[opaque sun]

wakawaka and w5 you need to spawn kill at the enemy portal since those maps lack with walls

[solid epoch]

i used pancake's wakawaka lvl 160 setup and it worked well on 120/130

[opaque sun]

Wakawaka you can technically use the elevated platform on the right side of the map as a ledge tho

[iron ravine]

https://gyazo.com/2bcbbb0dacafe78a9e8c8b559e0faffe anyone else still on 6 plants :3

[somber path]

I didn't even know pancake had a guide. I was looking for one but could only find a w130

[opaque sun]

W5 oj too bad cant juke things around on that map

[solid epoch]

#endgame-gen-chat message

[barren otter]

dude 160 is wild...

[dapper prism]

lol atom 500% 😄

[somber path]

Damn, wish it was pinned

[barren otter]

lvl 82 poison...

[solid epoch]

if u search through pancake's messages for "TD" the guides are easy to find

https://i.imgur.com/5daXNhN.png

[somber path]

Didn't know he had guides for all them tbh

[solid epoch]

yeah its real nice

[somber path]

Guess I should redo my w5 and w4, missing about 80 waves on them

[pale slate]

how do i increase pet's power ? is there any upgrade for it or just breeding lvl ?

[solid epoch]

primarily breeding level

beastmaster talents help too

[surreal glade]

also bm talent 14 iirc

[pale slate]

ou ye totally forgot that thing exists, poor bm been lab slave forever, thanks

[barren otter]

egg rarity too if you dont mind waiting on it

[opaque sun]

even one level of breed level kind of ramps up the possible pet power range when hatched

[pale slate]

it goes so slow, i reached last teritorry but do not have enough power to gather spices. i managed to get it working with nuke but i will be waiting a long time for 1 spice. There is stamp for breeding xp, vial and meals, do i miss anything else ?

[pastel bramble]

is there anyway to manipulate what gold food u get

from the coupons

[tight ridge]

liquid 4? is this for future worlds

[tacit tulip]

Most likely used in later bubbles

[opaque sun]

tell your little brother to turn off the electricity of the house when you fail

[pastel bramble]

understood

[zealous niche]

Log into multiple platforms and hope it desyncs in your favor and not erasing hours and hours of progress

[pastel bramble]

has anyone tested if its truly "random" or is it a cycle through the foods?

[zealous niche]

Could also prepare a cat on a shelf with a cup of water above your computer

[prisma drift]

It’s random

I get golden nom a lot

[zealous niche]

Let it read the winds of fate, so if your computer gets destroyed the gold food was going to be the bad kind

[pastel bramble]

gimme those golden kebabs 🙏

[zealous niche]

Daily food quests give you those I thought

[prisma drift]

I just do w2 Colo for candy and kebabs

[pastel bramble]

yh 300 a day

but not 5k 😄

i guess ill take golden bread too

[zealous niche]

W2 colo with DK sounds like a good solution then

[prisma drift]

I need 1k more troll keys still

Can’t farm candy

[barren otter]

hope i dont get peanuts from that 5k

[prisma drift]

Can you get golden peanuts?

I’ve never gotten them from a gold coupon

[pastel bramble]

u can

ive got one before

[barren otter]

isn't it any golden food

[pastel bramble]

from the arcade version

[prisma drift]

That’s crazy how many I’ve opened and never gotten it

I thought maybe not peanuts because you craft them

and I’d never gotten them before

[barren otter]

we pray for kebabs

[tacit tulip]

Yeah I've never had a single gold peanut either

[sharp wind]

Time to forget this thing

[opaque sun]

if you have a weak heart, split the gold coupons to like say stacks of 100 and you will at least get some kebabs

[sacred verge]

should i keep going on larry or move on for now? (still printing dementia so getting a few lvls from that every day)

[opaque sun]

90% effectivity line is 108%, so id say get it to 108-110% ish

[sacred verge]

alright

and then what should my focus be?

[opaque sun]

further continue larry to 115%, or whatever you want to work on

[safe tangle]

How much damage is needed for r46?

44 I mean

[sick sentinel]

110B with maxed attack talents and portal is the usual minnimum

[sacred frigate]

I did it with around 90B with maxed portal and max metor/lightning. You can cheese it a little by going on the tiny platforms to the left of the map with no mobs

Also make sure Crit Chance is over 200%

[tight ridge]

are the meals done did i get em all

[opaque sun]

Done with “new recipe”. now just level them all

[sudden niche]

Guys on my first boat shoud i juice loot or speed

[safe gazelle]

i have a question.I got king doot pet,its effect "All Divinities from World 5 count as Active",so that apply for major link or minor link or both?

[sacred frigate]

Both

[safe gazelle]

because i still have to change my god into artics to get out of lab afking 😦

[opaque sun]

As long the active playing character got divinity level 2+, doot activates all major and minor link bonuses except for purrmep’s minor link bonus

[safe gazelle]

oh,so it have to be level 2+

Thanks a lot for information from you both

[humble valve]

is orb count a good indicator of a good spot to farm statues if using crystals?

[tacit tulip]

This check is in place so it doesn't give doot prior to hitting w5

[tacit tulip]

It's honestly the primary indicator. The map you get the higher orb on is the map you're killing most on, and thus spawning most crystals

[humble valve]

i figured as much just wanted to make sure cause ive seen weirder with idleon XD

[fallen flax]

Finally got a 10k+ nugget. Been running with a 5k since a week after w5 came out. Also got badger on a 1%. Today is going well so far. Should I work towards god rank with my second ES now?

[steel linden]

Depends on your account progress, but leveling god ranks is very late game

[humble valve]

seems citringes are better for me currently as im getting 430 kills a orb vs 380 at wurms

[tacit tulip]

Wurms primarily goes zoom once you have big boomerang and big shockwaves

Oranges are easier to cap out

Wurms does also have the bonus of dropping keys though, so I'd personally stay there

[fallen flax]

My account could probably use a lot of work, but at the moment, he isn't doing anything but printing oak logs besides sitting on the altar. At least, I can't think of anything else for him atm. Not really sure if he should be elsewhere or not.

[muted bramble]

me too except it went over 100k now

[fallen flax]

Very nice! I'm dreaming of the day I get one like that, lol

[steel linden]

If he's also high enough level that you can max all skills improving chopping then yes, just put him on divinity with 3x print god. If not then first level him up a bit so you can improve your oak sample

[humble valve]

i currently have 3k keys and im not at the point where i can do nightmare kattle yet so i think for speeds sake im better off at citringes

[steel linden]

I got 323k a couple of weeks ago 😄

[fallen flax]

Okay, I'll throw him out to level him up, then. He's only pulling 46m oak logs atm.

[fallen flax]

Sweet jebus! your bits must've skyrocketed!

[steel linden]

Definitely focus on improving his chopping skills levels and gear then, I am not that late game yet and getting 220m/h on my second ES

[steel linden]

Ya it's great, getting around 500 red bits per day now!

[fallen flax]

My BC actually just broke 100k yesterday. I have my VM farming the last couple cards for chopping atm. t least until red cards.

[fallen flax]

I'm getting around 1b green a week, lol

[steel linden]

I misswrote haha, 220m/h not 220k/h :p

[fallen flax]

I did the same, lol. 100m

[steel linden]

Haha nice

Heres my idleonefficiency https://nevarlaw.idleonefficiency.com/

Might give you some ideas on what to focus on next 🙂

I'm currently boosting my divinity levels to get better minor link bonusses

[fallen flax]

I need to work on alchemy a lot. Currently working on using atoms to level Larry, then I can focus on some of the efficientcy bubbles. I need to start focusing on leveling my Nobisect minor some more, too. I did get some ideas, so thank you!

[solid epoch]

Have you eclipsed deathnote yet?

If not that's something you could send ur guy to do if he's just sitting on divinity anyways

[opaque sun]

assuming you have something near like 5m/hr kills at gmush

[fallen flax]

I haven't. I have my SB working on doing that in W1. I could sent my ES to W5 and get him leveling and building deathnote. My SB is like 300k/h

[solid epoch]

I don't think leveling up chopping will make much a difference in printer samples assuming it already dreadlo tools. Its just a slight bonus for stamps right? Alch is way more vital to a bigger print

[sacred verge]

where can i find the sheet for bubbles. where ican see when a non linear bubble has reached 90%

[fallen flax]

I meant character level. He's a bit tight on skill points.

[solid epoch]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1087501872002256966

[opaque sun]

300k/hr gonna take too long honestly

[full plover]

!equipchart

[fallen flax]

Yeah. That;s why my SB is just chilling there. He's doubling up by farming DNA when needed.

[solid epoch]

So u only get 300k Gmush kills/hr? R u sure?

[bright vine]

Does Crystal island scale with damage you have or is it just static hp? I can kill them on bubo, but nobody else atm

[solid epoch]

Dang

[opaque sun]

even my vman easily kills crystal island crystals so cant say

[fallen flax]

Yeah, I need a lot of work on my account, lol

[solid epoch]

What's ur dmg at? I mean u definitely can't eclipse any time soon but maybe you can work towards getting a lava skull on all of w1 first

[fallen flax]

2b on SB

[solid epoch]

That will give tons of multikill and will skyrocket your kills/hr

Also you need to find more ways to increase your afk gain%

[bold quiver]

that is a tough thing to do

[fallen flax]

I've got 100m mush. I'll move my SB over to frogs.

[solid epoch]

Yeah without doot it's hard. You probably don't have the +15% afk gain prayer though which would be a start

[bold quiver]

does this actualy only give me 2%?

[fallen flax]

I dont have that prayer. I can farm cheese, though. Need W3 statues anyways.

[solid epoch]

Think so, caps at 150 tho so it's useless when u get above that

[bold quiver]

damn if its only 2% its such a horrible shrine

no point existing

[solid epoch]

Yep it's useless

[granite grove]

i still wonder whats with lava's thought process for the tiny afk % AND 150% cap which is already easily attainable

[bold quiver]

Its called - Filler content, like a ton of stuff in the game

It has no real use and it exist just to be another thing added

like more than half of the superbits

[solid epoch]

Another thing to get bigger kills/hr and afk gain would just be to push through w5 with ur active character to get to Kattlekruk. The scarf is really good + you can get really good obols

Also getting full Kattle gear on ur siegebreaker will boost mob respawn so u will get a decent chunk from that

[fallen flax]

I just made it to worms on BC. I have my DK able to get to Kattlekruk.

[bold quiver]

niceee good job

[solid epoch]

Nice! Might take a while before you can get enough dmg for NM Kattle but if u work hard on alchemy for a few weeks u will be able to do it

[sly elk]

what level bubbles is 'working hard on alchemy' xD

[fallen flax]

Current goal is 532 Larry, then other bubbles.

[opaque sun]

like 500 ish i suppose

[sacred verge]

what lvl should i bring hocus choppus to?

[solid epoch]

Yeah 500 is good for most sampling bubbles

[sly elk]

Whats Larry

[bold quiver]

there is a chart for bubble capacity levels, u could check that

80% capacity is a good way to start

[opaque sun]

like the most important bubble

[fallen flax]

Larry is chance for 2 levels when you level a bubble. 532 is 101% chance

[opaque sun]

if you dont know what larry is, you are still far from working hard on alchemy stage

[bold quiver]

yeah dont be fooled by 100%!!! i got a +1 there and it screwed my 1st bubble

[opaque sun]

If at exact 500, there is a lava oversight that the formula acts as 0%

[sly elk]

Im like, searching in alchemy pages for larry, lol

[sacred verge]

ty

[sly elk]

found it lol

Meh, 66% chance to do this effect is enough for me lol

[solid epoch]

After that u might want to work on skilling bubbles first. Getting 50 atom clicks per day is really important for big growth. After u get good samples u will prob have good enough dmg for NM Kattle anyways on most characters except vman

[opaque sun]

enough for now, but not for long

Even 1% basically means thousands of free bubble levels

[sly elk]

...meh lol

[fallen flax]

Okay. I'll work on WCing bubbles first, probably.

[bold quiver]

yeh dont worry about it until u unlock atoms range, or have a good amount of dementia production

[sacred verge]

is there anywhere i can see my hourly atom production? without doing the calculation myself

[solid epoch]

Id recommended getting ur bubble 2s to lvl ~500 using atoms after ur done getting Larry up

[sly elk]

Im doing about 25 atoms a day, just dont have a miner who can do good dementia production like that

[solid epoch]

Primarily focus on mage cauldron first

[bold quiver]

Cuz here is the deal, this is larry cycle:
Early mid game very importnat cuz u have limited water per day
Mid to late game - Not importat cuz thats when u start playing bubo and can level everything as much as u want
Endgame - Extremely important cuz u are relying on 50 daily atom upgrades or hourly clicks to level stuff

[fallen flax]

Got 306 on mage. The other 2 are like 140-150.

[solid epoch]

Nice

Severapurple is also super important but hard to atom at first

Could always print void instead too

[sly elk]

Logging in every day for No Bubble Left Behind is way more chiull

[bold quiver]

huge

nblb is fun when u unlock atomstuff for it

[fallen flax]

I'm actually printing 1.1m void for just that, lol

[solid epoch]

Nice

[fallen flax]

At 106 on that bubble so far.

[solid epoch]

Keep it going forever pretty much. I kept printing void till lvl 1000

As u get a higher void print it'll get faster tho

[fallen flax]

Yeah, I originally got all of the mining cards to blue star since I was leveling like 5 bubbles with ore, but then I swapped over to Larry and WCing for atoms. I need more mats for better picks, too.

[toxic kraken]

Why do people not pick up chemical plant? And when should you pick them?

[opaque sun]

to maximize spawning other plants and refilling log

[fallen flax]

Pick at T5 to reset log from full cooldown.

[opaque sun]

people do pick chem. Its just flex photogenic to have 10 chems on screen

[toxic kraken]

Wait so when do i pick it?

[fallen flax]

T4 is 16h. Can pick there is it will reset log.

[opaque sun]

Its basically a fertilizer

You pick them like when you would use a fertilizer

[bold quiver]

when u feel like picking it up

[toxic kraken]

I only have up to log

[bold quiver]

some people like to wait for 24h chemical, some do 16, some do 9

pick your poison

[opaque sun]

yeah? Then just use with reasonable thinking

[bold quiver]

everyone ends up hating chemical chains after a point

[opaque sun]

If it feels like a good time to fastforward 16-24hrs use it. If not, dont use it

[pearl cedar]

Harvest all is the best button

[opaque sun]

If you have no idea, just harvest all. Who cares

[rotund smelt]

I like to pick up at t4. Especially when I'm about to check my other characters after they hit 8+ hrs afk gains and then go from chemical click to omniphau / bubble proc

[toxic kraken]

Ok, ive been just harvest all, but i see people post chem plant so i do the same and just let grow

[bold quiver]

definetly

[opaque sun]

A chem thats never used is just applying a -1 plant space curse

[bold quiver]

my best harvest all was one with 18 T5 chemical onscreen

thats when i was getting t6 chemical

[toxic kraken]

Yes now i feel stupid 8 out of 10 are chems it is simply waste

[opaque sun]

“I have food at home? When should I eat them? I see people posting pictures with food, do i keep them?”

[untold saffron]

does larry have to be over 1100 for 110% like it can't be exactly 500 for double?

[opaque sun]

the only formula bugged level confirmed is lv500 larry

[untold saffron]

ight

[opaque sun]

other levels are totally fine

Lv499 and 501 works fine as the bonus says. Just lv500 works like a 0% proc

[severe axle]

any point in research dna in gaming after getting chemical?

[untold saffron]

you can't can you?

[tacit tulip]

Yep, button does nada

[opaque sun]

cant click research, so as of now its just a sign of how long its been since you got chemical

Currently on 143k gaming dna

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/a814301021d9b39d43b39b61a8a9df03.png

Good place to finish larry for awhile?

[opaque sun]

can keep working slowly like via hourly clicks, but yeah its a good point

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/e50da8944844c50279c3f550f79cbcaa.png

any obvious atom target next?

[serene forum]

Whats the best mainstat bubble? Agi wis str or luck

[sacred verge]

wis is the best

[serene forum]

Not agi due to quickslap?

[opaque sun]

But you would raise str agi and wis anyway

and you shouldnt waste atoms on it

[sacred verge]

wis would be best as bubo farms money, and oak prints

[opaque sun]

so not sure why the question

[serene forum]

Im at a level where i cant quite afford the 1k atoms yet i can max out atoms on mainstat

[sacred verge]

quickslap is likely not anythign huge for you if you atom mainstat

[opaque sun]

luk is the hardest to raise, so that might be a consideration

If out of the 4 main stat, and have to use atom on them, id do luck

[sacred verge]

he likely is not within atom range for luk tho

[serene forum]

Im almosg there but not quite

[opaque sun]

All other 3 you would set up an hourly click anyway later on

[serene forum]

And I probably wont be doing hourly clicks ever tbh

[opaque sun]

id also look at bubble 2 for atom

[serene forum]

Cant be bothered. I use the same laptop for many other things

[sacred verge]

dont need to do hourly its just the best

still doing like every 2-3 hours get u far compared to nothing

[opaque sun]

Setting up hourly click is important, acutally doing hourly clicks isnt

[serene forum]

Bubble 2 maxes at 300 right? Or thats when it becomes pointless to continue as the bonus is already 80%

[serene forum]

Wym?

[sacred verge]

90% is where one should stop afaik, but 80 % is a good start

[opaque sun]

By the time bubble2 maxes, you should be able to atom other bubbles by then

hourly clicks (printer) means you get to click after each printer brr

[serene forum]

I get about 20k a day

[opaque sun]

Most of the clicks comes from printer brr and omni interaction

[sacred verge]

20k atoms a day is not horrible

[opaque sun]

Not many actually clicks every hour

[serene forum]

Most bubbles like bob, larry, and such are at like 1k+ atoms

[sacred verge]

with 20k a day you can do say 10-15 on larry

[opaque sun]

Like slap isnt that expensive

[sacred verge]

still is something

[serene forum]

But isnt it better to just mainstat then stack atoms for more atom upgrades?

If i atom larry i would be bottoming out with like 20 extra atom clicks

[sacred verge]

i would do larry

[opaque sun]

main stat bubble 1 is like 1-2 per click, so its okay, but not like super amazing

[sacred verge]

but im not an expert

[opaque sun]

Its nothing to prioritize over other utility upgrades

[sacred verge]

larry would make mainstat click down the line more valuable

[opaque sun]

Every click of larry is basically securing thousands of free levels in the future

You dont immediately see it, but its basically like leveling every other bubbles at once per click of larry in a way

[serene forum]

Hmm. I guess so.

I should focus on level 500 first right?

[sacred verge]

damn finally

[untold saffron]

I just started that grind yesterday

[sacred verge]

hmm why dosent it give me a code tho..?

[untold saffron]

you need to reach 15

16

[sacred verge]

ffs

[eager sedge]

u need to beat tehee 15

[sacred verge]

it says "reach tehee 15"....

damn

[untold saffron]

any tips for someone just starting to rush the trophy though

[sacred verge]

thats was a dissappointment

[opaque sun]

Idle Skilling can time skip on your pc time is like the only advice i have

[sacred verge]

i guess the grind wasnt done after all

[devout turtle]

What gives the power stu

[eager sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/beans-its-beans-beans-in-computer-gif-21443291

[devout turtle]

?

[devout turtle]

Fr tho

[eager sedge]

Beans

W1

[devout turtle]

Well fuck

[eager sedge]

[opaque sun]

Dk farming on bored bean

Beans themselves dont drop power statues, but boy they are good source of carrot crystals

[pulsar heart]

what happened to the boons thing on td lol

scrapped the idea

[devout turtle]

What gives best do from anvil so I can level it up 3 more times

[opaque sun]

he scrapped it as voidinator and other max level towers basically took care of it

[twin token]

Pog nugget

[steel linden]

I see multiple people saying to level Larry above 100%,why tho? Aren't you already getting +2 every upgrade then?

[untold saffron]

+3

[steel linden]

Oh damn

I just got Larry to 501 and figured I was done, nevermind that haha

[opaque sun]

100% isnt even the “90% of hardcap” so not much reason to stop at 100%

[steel linden]

Does Larry trigger on the daily alch upgrade lab thing as well?

[opaque sun]

108-115% is like an easy grab levels

not on nblb, but you still do many clicks through out your idleon career

Al least you would use the daily atom clicks anyway

[coral goblet]

is this account wide? or vman only

[olive kestrel]

vman only

[coral goblet]

gotcha ty

[zinc torrent]

Just arrived yeeeey!
Edit: in W5

[fathom lagoon]

Welcome

To DIV HELL

[glacial venture]

welcome to planting 9 chars on altar^^

[zinc torrent]

Damn…. I haven’t even finished with anything yet.. in other worlds 😥

[tacit tulip]

That's fine

Most things can't be outright finished

[bright vine]

Lab 2.0

[true obsidian]

anyone use this for ES(at world 1-2)?

[bright vine]

Why not?

[signal lava]

lowers max wormhole you can get

[bright vine]

118% dr is not good?

In world 1-2?

What portals

Oh nvm

I’m thinking dk

[glacial venture]

if you use it on dk...deactivate it if you run w2 colo with dk

or w2 colo will take ages^^

[true obsidian]

why?

[glacial venture]

the +hp counts for nodes too

[signal lava]

the skilling sections never end

[bright vine]

Should have told me that yesterday

[zinc torrent]

You guys think with random level 80-90 chars I can maybe start farming some W5 exp?

[bright vine]

Oh well, I got the card maxed already from hourglass

[opaque sun]

Nodes have hp, and they deplete when hp reaches 0

[bright vine]

100%

Get to like zone 5

They will all be 170

[opaque sun]

If it can kill suggma, sure even a level 1 can exp off them

[bright vine]

And you do tons of quests

[glacial venture]

i dont think his acc will be enough

[zinc torrent]

There in W5?

[bright vine]

Ye

Tons of quests give sailing and gaming skips

[fast grail]

People still have trouble reaching acc requirements in w5?

[gentle anchor]

is it hard to get to round 2OO without a single pet dying?

in arena

[glacial venture]

pets WILL die in arena till 200

[bright vine]

And by tons I mean you do 1 quest on each of the 10 chars

[zinc torrent]

I just candied myself through W4 with ES, other chars are like 60 levels behind and pretty much unprepared

[gentle anchor]

is it possible to get to 2OO without pet dying?

[fast grail]

Sounds like its time to backtrack to other worlds

[glacial venture]

we are in the age of candying to w5...so yes many have acc probs on lower chars

[opaque sun]

you can try, but unlikely that all survives

[gentle anchor]

ok i will try

[bright vine]

Get them to the point they don’t die for a few hours in w5 zone 1. Then you wait a day or so for them to gain 100 levels

[old portal]

other than quick slap whats a big damage multi?

[glacial venture]

only 3 need to survive

[opaque sun]

And badum dying befote reaching wave 200 is kind if important to stop his scaling

[gentle anchor]

i want all 6

[glacial venture]

rattler, shield and ...hm what was is called?

[bright vine]

Exp in zone 1 s basically what bubo would get active in w4

[gentle anchor]

i got 18k badum stacks

[glacial venture]

the cd one...

[opaque sun]

Toooooo much badam can freeze your game to ruin the run tho

[gentle anchor]

im at round 15O

[glacial venture]

last time i did arena i had 5 chars...did 201 and let it slip

[true obsidian]

ES on woodmushroom seem...waste?

[bright vine]

Do you know how much badum is minimum to clear 125? I’m trying to reduce lag as much as possible, and I am slowly reducing from 2.5k to last I tried 1.5k

Wonder if I can go lower

[zinc torrent]

I can’t wait

[opaque sun]

2000-5000 is like enough badum

[bright vine]

I can clear 125 with 1500 for sure, but I just crash at 120

[gentle anchor]

i got to 125 without badum

[bright vine]

How?

[gentle anchor]

monolith

[bright vine]

I’m desperate at this point

[opaque sun]

1500 might be too less frequent as in less shield density which means more damage gets through

[bright vine]

How long did it take?

[glacial venture]

i think i used borger, badum, coffee guy, shielder and rattler

[gentle anchor]

16h

[bright vine]

Dam

[opaque sun]

Mono makes it safer and consistent, but makes run much longer

[gentle anchor]

just let it run over night

[bright vine]

My iPad crashes overnight sometimes

So may not be an option

[gentle anchor]

u dont have lag with my strat

[opaque sun]

The lag issue is more prominent on mobile/pad

[glacial venture]

how good are your rattler and borger?

[bright vine]

16k rattler, 36k borger

[gentle anchor]

i didnt use borger

im doing wave 2OO with 4k borger

and 13k rattler

[glacial venture]

that takes ages

[gentle anchor]

16h

[bright vine]

I reach wave 110-120 in 5 min

But crash

Wonder what I can do

16 h probably not an option

But a last resort at this point

[opaque sun]

use PC is the best option honestly

[bright vine]

I don’t have pc:(

[gentle anchor]

dont do it arenais bad anyway

[old portal]

why do you guys want better arena score? is there new rewards now?

[bright vine]

125 gives 6 slots to unlock all spices

[gentle anchor]

u can do with 5 easy

[opaque sun]

Some people arent still at 200

[bright vine]

How

[old portal]

RNG

[glacial venture]

like i said...i used borger, around 15k, badum, coffee guy, shielder, rattler, around 15k too...took me around 3hrs...at start you need to build up badum stacks and coffee stacks...at around 50 you can start auto...first 2 might die...but at that point the last 3 should be invincible

[gentle anchor]

i got them with 5 all first try

[bright vine]

Nty, I’m at pristalle lake for 5 hours

Which setup

[gentle anchor]

i got them with 11k ratler takes 5min a map

[old portal]

its soo much easier to do arena with auto its just RNG

[gentle anchor]

RATTLER DEFENDER MONOLITH COFFEE COFFEE

[opaque sun]

this guy is on pad (mobile) where the game freeze is the issue than difficulty

[fathom lagoon]

Yea I wasn’t able to get it done on my iPad

Had to do it on the web client

[old portal]

aight that is understandable i remember someone giving up on arena cuz hes on ipad

[fathom lagoon]

Kept crashing

[old portal]

and pretty sure wave 200 isnt that big multiplier right?

[fathom lagoon]

1.4x dmg

[old portal]

is it that big multi?

[gentle anchor]

same as mine

[opaque sun]

Its not a striaght multiplier and shares with some other damage %, but its still noticeable

[fathom lagoon]

Since it’s multiplicative doesn’t seem huge but hey dmg is dmg

[green eagle]

Don't forget to walk your ram, otherwise they get a little too energetic

[zinc torrent]

What are my benefits of candying to W5? Why might that have been a wrong decision? What are my checklist to do to catch up to the point I can start pushing W5?

[gentle anchor]

can u mid fight change who u want to auto atack for your pets in arena?

[tacit tulip]

W5 skills are super big gains but time/rng gated. You get there asap to start working on them, then return to w1-4 to improve your account as a whole

[green eagle]

can only set it up at the beginning

[zinc torrent]

I guess I need to watch W5 in 5 mins from the dude on YT then 😄

[exotic juniper]

this is what I want, yeah?

[fathom lagoon]

Yea do that. There’s tons to do not only in w5 but back in w1-4 since I’m guessing you ignored certain mechanics (same way the rest of us did when rushing to w5)

[tacit tulip]

Yep 🙂 the only big mistake you can make right now is to try and brute force your way through w5. Typically, you only want to push if you're multikilling or if you desperately need something from a map ahead (stamps, gathering resources)

[green eagle]

yes, but in family tab as well

[zinc torrent]

Haven't really ignored anything particularly, I'd just say I am definitely not prepared to W5 fighting on an account-level

[exotic juniper]

yep got it 🙂

[tacit tulip]

Most don't have the sense to realise they're not ready for it yet. You'll do fine as long as you work on the other stuff (alchemy is the biggest one if that helps)

[fathom lagoon]

“Ignore” meaning not optimized, guarantee there’s things you’ll go back to fix to make much better now, etc., but your account will just start snowballing power from here

[zinc torrent]

So I'd rather sit down, get back to every mechanics in earlier level, gather resources for them, push Alchemy bigtimes, upgrade gear and whatnot?

[tacit tulip]

yup

Pushing will get you to the end of w5 slower than upgrading your stuff -then- pushing

and you'll be stronger in all areas to boot

[zinc torrent]

Would it be a bad decision to do the first map just to get EXP for everyone?

[fathom lagoon]

Plus it’s more fun going back to w1-4 and wrecking shit while getting stronger haha

[signal lava]

if your lab is bad getting goat god and going back to lab is a common choice

[tacit tulip]

that's fine

[zinc torrent]

With a ricidulous amount of food maybe

[tacit tulip]

levelas aren't important in the long run but some quick, easy talent points is useful

tab 4 talent points slow down at 190 too

[zinc torrent]

My lab is more than bad I'd say. I can get to like the town-every map shrine thingy but that's all I can show for

[tacit tulip]

One of the first relics from w5 activates shrines in all maps 🙂

You still need same map/world to level them tho

[zinc torrent]

oh... okay? 😄 lol

[opaque sun]

if situation allows the use of candies, always use candies as further you go, you will just have so many candies

[tacit tulip]

no joke, the w5 bonuses are huge for basically all areas of the game

Also neat, did lava change the description? I'm sure it didn't have the same map/world tidbit at launch

[opaque sun]

one hour saved here means you get to work on something else hour earlier

[opaque sun]

Yes, lot of people was asking “so with moai i dont need lab!” So lava added that along with some other artifact common mistakes

[zinc torrent]

Damn, how do I get that? Well, I'd best watch that video first before asking such heavy questions 😄

[opaque sun]

Maybe like 2 or 3 updates ago

[tacit tulip]

The video will explain it. It's the first set of items from sailing so you'll get it in a day or two, typically

[zinc torrent]

wth somehow super chow now works on my first BB (i have 2...yes i know)...need that swap token :/

[tacit tulip]

Are you currently playing in mobile? I'd heard the issue is reversed in that version

[zinc torrent]

yea was playing on PC when it took my 2nd. Switched to mobile and it's my 1st

I mean it's good since i always wanted it to be the first one, but I fear when switching it might swap again...

[opaque sun]

changing device re-applies the internal character id which determines the 1st 2nd ordering

[tacit tulip]

Oh, oh no. Brb

went on holiday 2 weeks ago didn't I 😄

ok its still fine on my pc

that's all I care about

[opaque sun]

also affects mman hands if you have multiple of them

[tacit tulip]

zzzz

[signal osprey]

Doot shroom

[tacit tulip]

I forget...can't be afk'd can it?

[zinc torrent]

haha good it didn't break

[signal osprey]

Nope. You have to play active BB just slapping one single gmush over and over again

[zinc torrent]

ok thanks, but is it always random or will it swap places all the time?

[tacit tulip]

...maybe after I'm done wasting time on SB 1mil

[opaque sun]

If you are rich with swap tokens, you can DK on doot gmush and switch back to BB

[tacit tulip]

don't think tokens have been back in the store since the first fomo rotation

[opaque sun]

Its determined by some order, but we dont have much info exactly how

Its not like there is some mad lad crazy to experiment figure out what exactly is going on

[zinc torrent]

fair enough :D there's so many crazy ppl here, i thought there might be a chance

[zinc torrent]

gonna get that token asap once it's out again...

[old portal]

what rings do you guys use for ES? still opal?

[signal lava]

weird that it's just not in the shop like the subclass one

[old portal]

also what skills to prioritize? iam going to book wormhole in a bit

[tacit tulip]

Es suffers from "they're all good" for the fighting skills

slowly maxing all of them myself 😄

[signal lava]

lightning is big damage. chainbolt is probably best for clearing mobs. meteors are good but all over the place

[opaque sun]

“they’re all good” also meaning “none of them mandatory”

Like just lv 1 in most talents is enough to get most out of them

[signal lava]

although i don't remember if chainbolt was as good without the vman enhancement

[tacit tulip]

Tje attack talents will get you to higher portal numbers, quicker

The damage talents will get you more multikill, but less portal

Both is great

[gentle anchor]

i got 55k bodum stack

[zinc torrent]

and then the subclass also dropped during the event. not like they are useful in any way...

[fathom lagoon]

Lvl up that wis book it’s fire. Also the lightning spell is best for pushing wormhole count

[cursive forge]

quick question

should I juice substats on my gear for accuracy

acc is lacking for me in w5

Im putting mian stats on gear atm

[fathom lagoon]

Either that or lvl up base stat bubbles appropriately

At a certain point you’ll have too much acc

[tacit tulip]

No harm in you doing it if it's gear you'll eventually replace but your time might be better spent levelling the appropriate bubbles instead

[cursive forge]

just got to w5 so most of them are in div and some are pushing w5 for levels

shaquacy at 50 and 1st bubbles are ~ 70

[teal lynx]

Maybe some easy levels in Green Bubble 9?

Oh u already know about Bubble ^^

[cursive forge]

not really easy now haha even with 90% 3d printing isnt enough

[fathom lagoon]

If you just got there then I’d say yeah since you’ll replace that equipment down the line,

[cursive forge]

ok thanks

oh also another one

jsut get all character to dementia first right

then void then lesture troll

[tacit tulip]

Stop at void, you might wanna make a chizoar helm in the interim

[cursive forge]

ohh I just searched it

somehow I thought troll needs lesture

nvm

ye chizoar is better than lesture

[tacit tulip]

It's a reasonable thing to expect haha

[cursive forge]

only the chizoar helm is good right

what about other parts

[tacit tulip]

They're fine just nothing to shout home about

[cursive forge]

alr

[tacit tulip]

Troll then upgrades into w5 so you're on the right track

[cerulean hemlock]

Lol

[old portal]

my maestro only dealing 1b damage with lvl 75 min skill sadge

[thin kernel]

that moment when you load up a few films.. and start farming "bars" for a few hours XD

[fallen torrent]

best ^place to get instalab follower item ??

[thin kernel]

just afk farming.. you will get them

[fallen torrent]

i know that im just asking if anywhere drop ems more

[thin kernel]

dont think so

think they all drop at the same rate

[green eagle]

makes me sad, i thought i was chugging along with those, and you've already completed the other ones too lol

[old portal]

my dk and mman almost the same DR how...

[green eagle]

what is with you guys with the low dmg vmans

[old portal]

my dk is at 10+ dr while vman is at 10.92

nvm i didnt put points on curse

[green eagle]

that dmg is lower than my vmans skilling dmg, even taking away doot with nobi bonus. i don't understand how your dmg is so low