I left it up on w5
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
umbral tapir
solid epoch
ive been slowly working on my FMJ. at lvl 541 rn
rustic garnet
poop and no doubler
umbral tapir
Ok. But nothing is easy to level at this point.
sharp igloo
Where do you check crystal spawn chance? Toolbox or IE?
umbral tapir
Hmm, I thought I red carded poop
vagrant mountain
should be getting 300 crystal spawn from cards
rustic garnet
you should get shrines up without being there...
signal osprey
Where do you check crystal spawn chance? Toolbox or IE?
Both
rustic garnet
you have the sailing artifact, no?
open cloak
wher do you see this in idleon efficiency
rustic garnet
umbral tapir
you have the sailing artifact, no?
I do. But if they're up in w5, they count in w2?
signal osprey
Although I prefer IT for crystal spawn because it shows the % value rather than the fraction
rustic garnet
yes, it is
rustic garnet
I think between 1/25 and 1/26 is the best
open cloak
what's the best to focus on there?
signal osprey
Max your cards
umbral tapir
So regarding my bad crystal spawn...they only easy upgrade is poop and getting lucky with doubler chip. Since I only have bottom right doubler chip.
rustic garnet
sec
signal osprey
If you have an easy upgrade in the poop card then it sounds like you know what to do
solid epoch
at 1572 def currently with lvl 541 FMJ with both prayers equipped on bubo
rustic garnet
easy poop upgrade would boost your CC a lot
umbral tapir
If you have an easy upgrade in the poop card then it sounds like you know what t...
Right, but when the response is "that's terrible" and the only upgrade is poop card and RNG doubler chip...
Everything else is slow burn upgrades.
rustic garnet
You'res wasn't the terrible
open cloak
ok I just 5 star my genie card and got to 1 in 58
sharp igloo
I have ruby poop and genie, currently doubling genie and moonmoon, but with poop on there too and my crystal spawn chance is 1/107. My crystal stamp isnt super low, how are you getting to 1/39?
open cloak
umbral tapir
Yours was 'pretty bad'
Whoops you're right
open cloak
only cards are genie and poop right?
signal osprey
Stamp isnt really that slow burn
daring ravine
I have ruby poop and genie, currently doubling genie and moonmoon, but with poop...
Advice aside
If your poop is ruby go to a doctor
signal osprey
Until the last 2 or 3 levels
umbral tapir
Stamp isnt really that slow burn
It is when I'm also trying to do jar since I fell behind on that. 😦
rustic garnet
well, priority
signal osprey
Crystal stamp is definitely more important
signal osprey
Jar is what you work on when you cant do other important stamps
umbral tapir
Stamp isnt really that slow burn
I can only manage one resource push a day. 😦
rustic garnet
it's not even close, tbh
open cloak
So Poop + Genie at 5 star is maxed cards, right?
rustic garnet
yes, and in top left and bottom right as doublers
open cloak
what are doublers?
rustic garnet
they are lab chips
open cloak
oh
rustic garnet
you can double cards in top left and bottom right slots with
open cloak
got it. have not seen them yet
umbral tapir
you can double cards in top left and bottom right slots with
Are chips on a "known schedule"? Or just the lab nodes were?
rustic garnet
yes
umbral tapir
Huh, better go look that up. Wiki I presume?
rustic garnet
there is an excel kicking about with it
rustic garnet
open cloak
yeah
rustic garnet
yuck
rustic garnet
yeah top left in dec, bottom right in nov
for you, you are lucky
for beaver, not so much
open cloak
why am I lucky
daring ravine
I swear lava manually made this roll specifically for Christmas
finite sparrow
What's best Bubo map if i can't 1 shot soda cans?
rustic garnet
I mean choco chjip is 100% a xmas gift
sick sentinel
What's best Bubo map if i can't 1 shot soda cans?
staches prob
daring ravine
I mean choco chjip is 100% a xmas gift
I do not want a lot for Christmas
rustic garnet
This is mine:
sick sentinel
tvs could be ok too
rustic garnet
This hasn't been on the purchase block... ever?
or maybe it was a LONG time ago and I couldn't buy it
signal osprey
Theres basically no good chips until november but then november is stacked
rustic garnet
yeah sept/oct chips are legit awful
finite sparrow
tvs could be ok too
I'll try tvs. I can probably 1 shot them
rustic garnet
but nov has 4 of 5 amazing ones
finite sparrow
17m max damage
umbral tapir
but nov has 4 of 5 amazing ones
Waiting on December for top left....ughhh
vagrant mountain
imagine buying chips from anywhere but the gem shop
umbral tapir
At least it's the day after my bday
signal osprey
I should buy more from the shop tbh
I havent done it many times but the few times I have I was pretty lucky
My doubler success rate is probably like 70% or something
eager sedge
signal osprey
Except now that I said something the next time I gamba it will be completely cursed
rustic garnet
width for you
eager sedge
probably
eager sedge
width for you
more like accuracy
signal osprey
Aight now we gotta do it for science. I got gems for one single gamba
rustic garnet
accuracy is better than width :p
eager sedge
Aight now we gotta do it for science. I got gems for one single gamba
Gl man
rustic garnet
you're going to get the pendant doubler
signal osprey
Could be worse
paper sail
Width actually annoying
signal osprey
Nah that ones respawn
rustic garnet
oh right
signal osprey
Damage would be trash tier
rustic garnet
legit ok
eager sedge
these ma chips
rustic garnet
so'k
eager sedge
have some unequiped but those are accuracy and defence
paper sail
Width actually annoying
signal osprey
Accuracy doesnt help
eager sedge
idk man i think i have enough of it
signal osprey
What overflow?
rustic garnet
viral snow
Thats the most cursed thing ive seen in a while 
rustic garnet
helps you get above 200% crit
paper sail
Imagine using that talent lmfao
rustic garnet
it gives you extra crit chance....
eager sedge
idk man i think i have enough of that too
paper sail
signal osprey
I'm not sure if I can even get below 200% crit if I want
open cloak
@rustic garnet better now
rustic garnet
you'll save days or weeks by going from 1/67 to 1/42
open cloak
anything I should make sure not to fuck up on the onyx statue quest?
rustic garnet
- There is a vial that gives you extra turn in % for your kapow
(and all)
but kapow is super limited
so you would want to make sure this vial is high
bold quiver
@gentle furnace its taking shape
rustic garnet
wtf. I didn't know green existed lol
open cloak
my vial is at level 9 (45 % chance)
bold quiver
red are the true eggs!
rustic garnet
my vial is at level 9 (45 % chance)
some people are saving till 100%
that's level 13
rustic garnet
and then like 20ish maxed vials
bold quiver
i wanna see the multi when the first EGG turns red bro
open cloak
I'm not gonna wait that long
paper sail
750x or so
bold quiver
its gonna be awesome
open cloak
not worth it IMO
fast grail
max vial and 26 vial mastery
open cloak
I only have 2 max vial
bold quiver
750x or so
=[ no spoil
open cloak
for kapow only?
open cloak
ok I will wait on kapow then
rustic garnet
and save the 90k for later
paper sail
=[ no spoil
Get spoiled
open cloak
I'm only on power statue
bold quiver
i wont click that ha
finite sparrow
How do i know if my boats are on the way or returning?
rustic garnet
level 100 max then?
bold quiver
ill patiently wait for all eggs to turn red
bold quiver
wow 100
open cloak
ill patiently wait for all eggs to turn red
is there an achievement for that
rustic garnet
no, lol
bold quiver
is there an achievement for that
no, but there are achievements for bronze eggs and golden eggs
open cloak
so why bother
bold quiver
so why bother
i dont have anything to gain from breeding for a long time already
rustic garnet
boredom, super maxing a borger?
bold quiver
all my spices pet are around 110-120k
rustic garnet
personally I would love to super max some borgers for higher spices
bold quiver
not even borger only, all of themn
so i got bored of doing that after i saw jaeger red egg!
rustic garnet
clearly BM pushing, right?
bold quiver
now i do breeding to get max red eggs
paper sail
I got my lowest to 50k
bold quiver
clearly BM pushing, right?
no way, thats passive egg generating
bold quiver
oh its more that there isnt anything to do on spices etc anymore
signal osprey
I'll quit playing idleon before I BM farm for eggs
Thats the most useless shit ever
bold quiver
kkkkkkkkk i would rather play active on BB to level up than BM for eggs
rustic garnet
I imagine we'll see some BM love
signal osprey
I'll super chow the doot shroom before I play active BM
signal osprey
Its more valuable though
bold quiver
active BM is a bad experience, his skills suck
signal osprey
The super chow is actually useful
paper sail
I did active BM for 20min traps for a few days 😭
signal osprey
The BM egg talent not so much
viral star
Get spoiled
how much pet power would this guy have if you used the red egg on him?
bold quiver
The BM egg talent not so much
the egg talent is very good if u are into breeding and dont wanna spend tickets for eggs
but its not like there is much going on there after u unlock the meta team
rustic garnet
I mean, you can get like 300 eggs in one go
paper sail
how much pet power would this guy have if you used the red egg on him?
Idk, someone else's screenshot
viral star
oh
grizzled elk
why do either of those? just get a fenceyard full of nachos to make eggs for you
paper sail
I've never seen above a Plat egg myself lmao
viral star
I've never seen above a Plat egg myself lmao
same the blue egg
bold quiver
I've never seen above a Plat egg myself lmao
yeah before i started my red egg journey i hadnt also
viral star
how long do you evehave to wait to get the red egg?
bold quiver
how long do you evehave to wait to get the red egg?
hmm it took a week or so to get 1, but then i got +2 pretty fast apparently
paper sail
However, chart here! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RMuSs6whbM0vJ0jD_oLqK-l3W9y_fYCNbqlM3gHqq9U/edit#gid=1201108015
bold quiver
its more of a rng thing than really waiting
viral star
i see
paper sail
Dreadlo egg is about 2x max value of a normal egg, but over 4x the minimum value
bold quiver
it takes a while but u need some luck
bold quiver
did u forget to lvl some talent?
bold quiver
oh nice
rustic garnet
;p;
I told you :p
it's hard to compare
like, the numbers 1/67 v 1/42 seem 'not that far away'
bold quiver
huge gians
rustic garnet
but going from 1/33 to 1/27... is just as crazy
there are around that many mobs on the map, so when you full clear, you start averaging 1 cyrstal per wave
open cloak
yeah and then with choco chip it's like crystal kingdom
paper sail
Soon
bold quiver
thats low
paper sail
312 shrine? Cheater
bold quiver
yes, dont know why it exists
rustic garnet
well, at one point 150% was pretty crazy
molten cairn
Not next to, literally does nothing
bold quiver
probably same thing as most things in the game, just filler cuz out of idea
rustic garnet
it gives levels towards construction rift, that's it
paper sail
Even if it wasn't capped at 150%, the bonus is pathetic
rustic garnet
yeah
open cloak
yeah that shrine is so trash
paper sail
3.51% at level 18 shrine
bold quiver
my crystal chance
paper sail
I wouldn't even notice
open cloak
wozers
rustic garnet
open cloak
the big difference between you and I is just shrine and card doubler
shrine I just have to wait out
bold quiver
wow my shrines are stuck at 18-19
open cloak
card doubler I guess I could burn money
rustic garnet
card doublers are WAY bigger than shrine bonus
paper sail
rustic garnet
I mean we're within 1 level on all
open cloak
where is that view from
rustic garnet
much of a much
paper sail
-1 shrine
rustic garnet
signal osprey
paper sail
I think I can get another 2 or 3 rounds of stamps in? @signal osprey How high is your Crystallin?
signal osprey
250
rustic garnet
noooooo
paper sail
I'm at 240
signal osprey
Just got that to 21 yesterday
paper sail
Something funky
bold quiver
your people crystalin is so high lol
open cloak
damn
signal osprey
Thats the last level for now. 260 requires 2.6b bricks at max reduction
open cloak
that's so much brick
signal osprey
Not even close to possible
bold quiver
slaker
paper sail
Oh. So is that 1089m the real number from 240 to 250?
rustic garnet
I just got greenstacks on PVC pipe
signal osprey
Yeah
paper sail
Shit
signal osprey
You need to make a second stack of bricks or store some on a character
rustic garnet
do you candy while on SB or something to press the forge button?
signal osprey
For that stamp I just had bricks being made on a few characters for a little while
paper sail
signal osprey
Having a 5k hammer bubble helps though
paper sail
I have 7/10 on bricks atm
signal osprey
Although I was probably like 3k or so at the time
I did 250 crystallin a little while ago
weary granite
am I missing any good prayers? I just got into w5 for the most part and only have lvl 19 boulder, 6 party and 2 kraken
bright vine
am I missing any good prayers? I just got into w5 for the most part and only hav...
Yes
paper sail
That's painful
finite sparrow
Is there a starfire ore or bar vial?
bright vine
Is there a starfire ore or bar vial?
Don’t think so. There is dreadlo bar vial
finite sparrow
Is it any good
bright vine
Don’t have it🫠
paper sail
Is it any good
It's okay, not great. Impossible to max
weary granite
some of those like midas seems a bit tough to get with my tower levels but I'll have to see what I can do with some of those
finite sparrow
It's okay, not great. Impossible to max
Is there a list of vial bonuses?
I've been randomly unlocking vials
Without knowing what they do
paper sail
mortal compass
Does Mantra not work for character outside of alter?
paper sail
Does Mantra not work for character outside of alter?
The character using Mantra style must be on the altar. The others don't need to be.
crude pier
It's a bit crazy that the higher level captains don't have like a minimum range, just a higher maximum.
I keep on getting the highest level captain I have unlocked with like a 3% loot value bonus and nothing else. Still using a bunch of bottom level captains.
viral star
bribes yayyy
mortal compass
The character using Mantra style must be on the altar. The others don't need to ...
hmmm i just checked my meastro after he had been skilling for 2 hours and he didnt get any divinity exp
paper sail
hmmm i just checked my meastro after he had been skilling for 2 hours and he did...
!mantra
obtuse orbitBOT
Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.
In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.
(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)
finite sparrow
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Alchemy/Vials
Oh i really need shark and kraken vials
mortal compass
guess i cannot mindlessly claim my afk gains anymore.... 😦
viral star
i thought this was 2 green coins...
paper sail
You can.. Just trust the exp is happening 😛
dapper prism
guess i cannot mindlessly claim my afk gains anymore.... 😦
Just a side note, don't use mantra early on if you don't have goat+ yet
ember cove
for active es am i going full DR without the cystal mob cards?
dapper prism
Depends on what you're doing?
ember cove
final onyx statues, acc, worship etc
dapper prism
But typically, that's it's purpose, DR for the mobs from wormhole
Yeh, DR, no point in crystal chance for stuff like ACC
viral star
how do i increase my Vmans damage...
ember cove
awesome thank you
viral star
cos i cant get it up anyway
dapper prism
how do i increase my Vmans damage...
W5 bubbles?
and mainly, level your lowest skill, what's it at?
viral star
easily too low i guess
rapid talon
are repeated pets useless?
paper sail
rip
dapper prism
well yeh.. 30 is terribly low
barren otter
hey at least youll gain so dmg fast
dapper prism
are repeated pets useless?
If you mean companions, yes (if untradeable ones)
paper sail
My man picked up Mman and said "never catching again, bye"
viral star
hey at least youll gain so dmg fast
umm damage you say....
barren otter
ouch
dapper prism
Rings, neck, easily replaceable
also that's so terribly low it looks like combat preset
viral star
wrong skill set ..
paper sail
Losing crit chance by swapping from skill to combat cracks me up
clear topaz
if i understand the siege breakers talent, it means that my sailing loot chests will evolve if i dont claim them when the stash is full, so should I leave it full for days to get the best chests?
barren otter
wrong skill set ..
you should definitely be able to pump a lot of levels into your skills
that talent is a major source of dmg for vman
viral star
forgot to level his mega crit
dapper prism
if i understand the siege breakers talent, it means that my sailing loot chests ...
Only use SB Talent 11 IF you only check sailing like once a day.
Else do NOT use it, as more chests is way better than "a chance to get a better chest"
dapper prism
if i understand the siege breakers talent, it means that my sailing loot chests ...
The talent does not increase the odds of a better chest, it just allows the boats to continue and IF a better chest is found, then it replaces the lower one
barren otter
easily too low i guess
for example
viral star
oh my thats very high
barren otter
still 
clear topaz
The talent does not increase the odds of a better chest, it just allows the boat...
ok, thanks!
viral star
ye but its 4 times more than me
paper sail
Again, those are like Mman minimum required levels 😂
You should have skilled at some point since that quest
Vman should be skilling just 99% of the time
barren otter
^
signal osprey
The only time vman isnt skilling is when he punches wurms for ccd
viral star
Vman should be skilling just 99% of the time
good to rememberr
signal osprey
To go back to skilling
barren otter
or crying on nm kruck for cape drop
dapper prism
Are his skills even rank 1 compared to other alts?!
viral star
he trying to do his best..
paper sail
Sometimes yall make my 9x lab account look good
viral star
i'd say ...
barren otter
pearl cedar
You done even have to do that do you? Vman just takes 2m kills on all maps?
dapper prism
Bad skills = Bad effy on alts = Bad 3d samples = Bad alchemy/stamps/vials/gear/progress everything kinda stuff.
pearl cedar
i'd say ...
💀
viral star
so my vman is blocking me from progress i see
dapper prism
And yeh.. VMAN doesn't have to push
viral star
I must fix it then
barren otter
i'd say ...
time to pump candies into vman skilling
and get all W1/W2 skills to 1st...
viral star
time to pump candies into vman skilling
indeed...
might be not easy as of my for example DK
dapper prism
Get 4* skilling cards on everything while at it quickly and easily. Remember to snapshot card chance card
dapper prism
might be not easy as of my for example DK
Still eays, vman gets much xp rate if you got xp talent(s) on him
viral star
got any guides on snapshotting? and the right set uips
dapper prism
Ctrl F my name
pearl cedar
Vman should look like this
dapper prism
got any guides on snapshotting? and the right set uips
viral star
this close enough
barren otter
Vman should look like this
unbelievable you have him 2nd on alchemy smh...
dapper prism
Vman should look like this
imagine if cooking was on the list of dmg skills xD
pearl cedar
imagine if cooking was on the list of dmg skills xD
Id have to do a lot of ballooning
signal osprey
viral star
YESS finnaly
barren otter
Vman should look like this
one day my vman will look like that
viral star
one day my vman will look like that
one day... mine will be close... to it
pearl cedar
one day my vman will look like that
Still good, only reason I'm ahead really is time. Trapping meh
dapper prism
<:grumblo_steal:1098050666028597320>
Gotta level it more ||inspect element obv xD||
https://i.imgur.com/TNO3LiN.png
flat beacon
Is it possible to get a lv250 talent cap for voidwalker yet? Or is Enhancement Eclipse not able to hit 250?
dapper prism
245 is max
signal osprey
Gotta level it more ||inspect element obv xD||
https://i.imgur.com/TNO3LiN.png
Those are some interesting exp requirements for those levels 
flat beacon
thanks
dapper prism
Those are some interesting exp requirements for those levels <:grumblo_preg1:111...
I know, got 2lazy to change it all xD
haughty kernel
Is there a way to use candies on W5?
flat beacon
Is there a way to use candies on W5?
Wait for W6 to come out?
pearl cedar
Too hot for candy
barren otter
Still good, only reason I'm ahead really is time. Trapping meh
trapping is definitely meh...
flat beacon
That's it lol
haughty kernel
sad xD
signal osprey
Trapping holding me back forever 
pearl cedar
The trick is to start playing sooner
barren otter
im doing 8hr nature traps and ccd whenever trapping levels up and it still feels slow
signal osprey
Damn so thats why my vman sucks. He's still too young
bright current
The trick is to start playing sooner
pearl cedar
im doing 8hr nature traps and ccd whenever trapping levels up and it still feels...
How much exp per trap?
pearl cedar
That's not bad, when I redid I was at 52m so it doesnt get much better
signal osprey
So I'm not sure what I fucked up last time I reset traps but I think my exp actually went down despite completing a bunch of the 1k masteries
I had like 47m and then got 46.7m when I retrapped
Spent like 10 minutes trying to find what I was forgetting and couldnt do it so I gave up and went to bed because it was late
pearl cedar
1k masteries should've gotten you to lile 47.2 
signal osprey
So now my traps are just worse because I never did try to fix it again
barren otter
im gonna retrap once i finish W1/2 1ks but doubt ill be any higher than 41m
pearl cedar
Spent like 10 minutes trying to find what I was forgetting and couldnt do it so ...
Only other thing that increases trap exp is base critter so maybe star sign
Well other than normal exp buffs
signal osprey
I couldve swore I set starsigns though because I remember also adding the shitty generic skill exp ones that you would never bother using otherwise
barren otter
did you double efaunt card?
signal osprey
And I've done a few vials since then too so my base critters should have been up from vial mastery on honkers
Yeah I had efaunt doubled
paper sail
Vine Cape, spring nametag?
signal osprey
No but I also didnt use those before
I probably should be less lazy about swapping that around though. My vine cape is just sitting in lab
pearl cedar
Ahh man I'll have to retrap when I finish oozies
paper sail
Not just chillin in storage?
signal osprey
Not just chillin in storage?
I had it on someone and I didnt take it off before I put them in lab
pearl cedar
I need to go through and do all my critter cards to 5 star
signal osprey
Thats what I'm gonna do after I finish 1k
paper sail
I almost finished Froges
barren otter
its the best way!
pearl cedar
I dunno I wasnt getting guaranteed cards on 20 minute traps but I was using normal trap
viral star
can card drop chance be like more than 1 in 1h?
pearl cedar
can card drop chance be like more than 1 in 1h?
Not on afk screen but yes
viral star
okay
signal osprey
I got mouse, honker, and bunny cards to 5* while doing the vials
And I have blobs from all the exp traps
barren otter
I dunno I wasnt getting guaranteed cards on 20 minute traps but I was using norm...
surely its just 20 min royal traps with full card drop cards on vman
not exactly sure tbh
signal osprey
Its 10 hour traps
pearl cedar
I'll just active with BM
signal osprey
Mostly the first one
barren otter
signal osprey
But I actually dont think theres much difference in card drops between trap timers
Maybe 20 min is technically better but I dont think its by much
viral star
while snapshottting do i use the new card set in the map i want to grind a skill or the map b4 it?
wind umbra
does card drop chance get snapshotted when putting down trap or only when u collect?
barren otter
by drops do you mean chance or amount
pearl cedar
If 20 min traps guaranteed cards then it wouldn't be a question
signal osprey
Amount. Not sure if chance is affected or not
But iirc I was getting less cards per collection when I ran 20 min traps in the past then I do on average from 10 hour traps
It might add up to more total if you do them consistently but not enough for me to bother
pearl cedar
Once I get everyone to 100 trapping I'll switch to 10 hrs
signal osprey
Only way I ever consider doing 20 min traps again is if shiny rates get buffed
I'd grind it out to do the froge vial but until then I'll stick to 10 hours
paper sail
You're talking quantity, not % chance yeah?
signal osprey
Yeah
pearl cedar
Wish vman skill applied to shinies. Not sure why it doesnt tbh
bright vine
When traps gets automatically collected by rift buff, who gets the exp, and do you benefit from bm’s collection bonus?
From skill
signal osprey
The owner of the trap gets the exp and yes
paper sail
EXP is all normal. Shiny chance is calculated based on active character
paper sail
I mean personally I'd still prefer the Construction gains over the Trapping gains, but you do you.
signal osprey
It only matters for shiny chance
bright vine
What happens to construction gains?
signal osprey
The eagle eye values will be the same regardless of who you log in on
haughty kernel
Hello, I just unlocked my first god, how do I link with it? 😮
exotic juniper
so what is yalls cookin roadkill bubble lvl at?
barren otter
But iirc I was getting less cards per collection when I ran 20 min traps in the ...
seems like regardless of 20min/10hr it will definitely take a long time to ruby all trapping cards
paper sail
Hello, I just unlocked my first god, how do I link with it? 😮
Sit on altar, then click on the big snakey boi
exotic juniper
best map for dk statue farming on w5?
tremor or oranges if you dont kill fast enough on tremur
paper sail
best map for dk statue farming on w5?
Pins indicates Tremors
sly jetty
ty both
signal osprey
What happens to construction gains?
Bubble 2 in orange cauldron increases the carpenter bubble but only on warriors so if you log in on a warrior first after you open the game it will calculate your build rate and con exp at the increased values. Specifically BB is the best for this
haughty kernel
Sit on altar, then click on the big snakey boi
I think I did but I did not see the bonus when I was on the map
edit: dont mind just worked
signal osprey
seems like regardless of 20min/10hr it will definitely take a long time to ruby ...
Yeah I finished 1b bunnies before I finished the card. I had to keep trapping them for almost an extra week to get 5*
haughty kernel
ty!
exotic juniper
can cranium cooking ever be up 100% of the time?
barren otter
Yeah I finished 1b bunnies before I finished the card. I had to keep trapping th...
lvl 8 poison tincture and im not done with this granted i didnt really maximize card drop chance
paper sail
can cranium cooking ever be up 100% of the time?
You can get about 50% uptime
Think I'm at 6minutes up, 8 minutes down currently. Just shy
signal osprey
tawny oxide
i just got world 5 is there any specfic staretegy for unlocking the gods i have everyone on the altar but not sure what offering to use
also is the divintiy gem upgrade worth it
pearl cedar
i just got world 5 is there any specfic staretegy for unlocking the gods i have ...
Recommended lowest % until you get a 100% chance
tawny oxide
oh i wasted a lot of offering on that 50% one then
exotic juniper
Think I'm at 6minutes up, 8 minutes down currently. Just shy
nice not bad
zealous niche
oh i wasted a lot of offering on that 50% one then
It’s chance to unlock the divinity rather than progress to unlocking
paper sail
Personally, I went left side (cheap offerings) the entire time but its RNG
zealous niche
Left until right is 100% is the statistically cheapest method, but there’s variation obviously since it’s RNG
paper sail
I disagree because..
tawny oxide
how many do i need to get until i can put them in lab and divinity
signal osprey
Its not the cheapest its the one with the least variance
paper sail
signal osprey
Statistically speaking the average price will always be roughly 100% and if you do the guaranteed 100% you pay that plus whatever you rolled to get there
On average its slightly more but you're at a lower risk of paying a lot more should you get unlucky
You pay extra for a failsafe
zealous niche
Don’t think the stats work out that way
untold saffron
anyone here have any tips for the idle skilling grind to get the trophy faster?
sharp igloo
Can your base oak sample be over 1050m?
zealous niche
Isn’t it 1 - chance of fail of all your attempts which does not work to 100% when you add all your chances
sharp igloo
I just resampled and am at 385m. Do you think if I raise wis bubble 3 from around 250 to 900, itll go up a lot?
zealous niche
Statistically speaking the average price will always be roughly 100% and if you ...
Two 50% chances has a 75% chance of at least one succeeding
signal osprey
Its a good bubble but that alone isn't going to be a massive increase
sharp igloo
Is it pretty much multitool stamp, skilling meals, getting ruby cards for all the logs, and then higher bubble 1-3 that will raise my oak samples?
amber dagger
If you buy an ancient artifact without unlocking the artifact and all your other artifacts are ancient will it just give you one not unlocked ancient form?
signal osprey
Is it pretty much multitool stamp, skilling meals, getting ruby cards for all th...
Those are most of the bonuses but there's a few more chopping related bubbles too and then then statues/obols are strong as well.
sharp igloo
If you buy an ancient artifact without unlocking the artifact and all your other...
I think you need a non ancient one before you can buy the gemshop ancient thing
amber dagger
I think you need a non ancient one before you can buy the gemshop ancient thing
So it wouldn't let you buy?
sharp igloo
Those are most of the bonuses but there's a few more chopping related bubbles to...
Oh shit, I totally forgot to switch to chopping obols
I knew I was forgetting something lol
sharp igloo
So it wouldn't let you buy?
I dont think it will
amber dagger
I'll try it out later lol
sharp igloo
If you had 100% movement speed, would you move at the same speed as your companion/pet/follower dude?
little pagoda
If you had 100% movement speed, would you move at the same speed as your compani...
I think so, companions came out when I was pretty new at the game and we were amost the same speed if not the same
sharp igloo
I think so, companions came out when I was pretty new at the game and we were am...
Oh wild. That would be super annoying to walk that slow lol
little pagoda
Is unending energy ever worth it? I got to the point where I started afking often for more than 10 hours and I'm gonna remove from everyone, it's basically just useful on active char for xp grinding right?
signal osprey
Thats entirely up to you
sharp igloo
Its useful on everyone that you check every 10 hours, but if youre checking every 24 hours or so then probably not
signal osprey
Its never bad to have on if you check every 10 hours or less
little pagoda
Its never bad to have on if you check every 10 hours or less
But having to check every 10 hours is kinda annoying, I always lose some hours when I sleep properly lol
signal osprey
Thats the up to you part
sharp igloo
I usually have it off, but yeah, totally depends on you
Only time I really turn it on is when skilling on vman
Also thanks for reminding me to turn that on on my DK lol. Im active on him rn trying to level up and forgot to turn that on
little pagoda
Yeah no problem lol
I had a bit of an eventful couple of days and all my characters were at like 20+ hours with unending energy equipped lol
So I'll just unequip and avoid that in the future
And just use for candying skills and activing
I also once wasted a 72hr candy with that prayer on accidentally lol
gentle gazelle
Atom collider all bonuses where can I see?
sick sentinel
wiki
sharp igloo
I also once wasted a 72hr candy with that prayer on accidentally lol
I did that too once lol, didnt feel good haha
sharp igloo
Atom collider all bonuses where can I see?
The wiki has them all
tame walrus
Should i use mitsuki stone?
slender vale
what should i choose
untold saffron
right
pearl cedar
Left
sick sentinel
no
urban ridge
up
pure ember
Iirc right is best overall
urban ridge
ooooh 5
urban ridge
didn't listen to the poll bud
vagrant mountain
Left
do you know if it's true that right tilt does nothing?
I heard that lava meant to implement it but never did
pearl cedar
do you know if it's true that right tilt does nothing?
I just click any of them and am happy with my 30 balls
vagrant mountain
lol
yeah I've chosen left and right before and I've gotten 500+ balls from each
the one person I heard it from is an unhinged vman main so idk how true it is
green eagle
best place for bubo to statue farm? still beans maybe? working on getting the rest of my 80k kachow statues
vagrant mountain
dreadlo
pearl cedar
Just a few clicks
vagrant mountain
if you want to active farm statues from mobs on bubo, it's probably gonna be rats or sticks/nutto
bright vine
Why does w2 coliseum take so long to change phases?
pearl cedar
Why does w2 coliseum take so long to change phases?
How long it's too long
stable cloud
Not instant = too long
vagrant mountain
because the skill nodes are part of the waves and for some reason they have HP and it gets increased by prayers
true flint
Any tips for pushing gaming? I've been on berri for months and doing 1-2% pulls for evergreen without success. Chemical is a long way away at this stage...
bright vine
How long it's too long
More than 0.0000000001 sec
pearl cedar
Any tips for pushing gaming? I've been on berri for months and doing 1-2% pulls ...
Don't do 1-2% claims
true flint
What percent?
pearl cedar
.1-.2%
true flint
So pick a plant and roll?
pearl cedar
Basically
true flint
Jesus
vagrant mountain
click it whenever you remember to
it has diminishing returns, the more plants you click
sleek fulcrum
What’s best class to farm W5 recipes? And is active or AFK better?
true flint
Yeah I know the returns are diminishing rapidly
I have been doing it each time I clear the garden, but guess the plant by plant approach may be better
If a little monotonous
vagrant mountain
eh I just pressed harvest all, and click research, got it within a week of hitting w5
true flint
Yeah that's not been happening for me xD
sick sentinel
What’s best class to farm W5 recipes? And is active or AFK better?
active es
true flint
Es for anything on the first drop table, Dk for second drop table (as a rule of thumb)
sick sentinel
better said if its on the crystal drop table, dk is the move
vagrant mountain
ES if the drop is on the mob card (even in bag) and DK for crystals
I swear so many people play ES and DK for months and still don't understand how their drop mechanics work 😭
untold lintel
when will this get good?
lyric sequoia
WELP
Classic right tilt result, gives the illusion of safety. Left tilt is the play every time
When you have enough total meal level and get the max level of the skilll up a bunch
ashen marsh
should I buy or skip? i've seen some that costs 100k+
sick sentinel
its not bad, depends on your other caps
ashen marsh
its not bad, depends on your other caps
this would be the best one I got so far lol
sick sentinel
look on IE or IT for a captain that has worse base stats then and go for it
rotund smelt
Why does w2 coliseum take so long to change phases?
i heard you shouldnt use prayers that increase mob hp because it makes resources take longer to despawn
tidal rain
lava moment
green eagle
this would be the best one I got so far lol
sounds like you got yourself a new captain
best you seen so far would instantly mean to me and others that you bought it and sold your worst captain
ashen marsh
yeah im going to do that rn
green eagle
you can be choosy when the captains even at level 10+ aren't much different from each other imo
i had a cap the other day that if i trained him to level 11 he would surpass my worst cap. but he would be worse than my level 14 captain every step of the way until lvl 11 so i skipped him. i could've easily taken him, but I would have to remember to claim his loot more often so he can level up (because we DON'T use NELS around these parts 🤠 )
urban ridge
just get doot and NELS is super viable
little pagoda
I've been focusing solely on artifact chance captains lol
ashen marsh
how do I get captain A again? lol just buy a new one?
little pagoda
Artifact chance is bad enough that any increase i can get is good
little pagoda
how do I get captain A again? lol just buy a new one?
yeah
However i'm having trouble getting the 250k rare shrooms for stamp, but that's only like a 20? 30? extra base agility so whatever
ashen marsh
any recommendations?
little pagoda
any recommendations?
I like the idea of 1 point into spice pillage so you can claim without hitting cap
with 1 merit and capping the star talent it's like 25% chance I think
And connection range helps a bit to connect more stuff
ashen marsh
ty ty
obtuse orbitBOT
No bubble left behind - As soon as you reach nblb in lab, drop all other merits and start buying this one. Until then, pretend it doesn't exist.
(1) One purchase into Spice Pillage so you don't feel as forced to manually collect spices.
- Max out the eggs so you don't have to log on as often to use them.
- Get Mob Respawn maxed out to allow you to push the maps faster.
- Connection range merit doesn't give much, but it will make it alot easier to find good spots for your characters to be in lab.
(Note: Connection Range is the range from characters to nodes/jewels. Line Width is only between character to character.) - Troll armor is miles better than Diabolical armor. If you do not have enough nullo salt production, you can get spice pillage maxed instead.
- Max out Spice Pillage. Having the talent at level 100 gives it 100% chance to proc.
- Since three crystals daily is next to nothing, get this one last.
little pagoda
Troll armor while good, is hard to craft
green eagle
just get doot and NELS is super viable
NELS is NEVER viable
little pagoda
So don't need to rush
urban ridge
when you're logging in and getting like 20 hours sailing progress every time
per character sometimes
why would you not
green eagle
i'd still rahter get 50 chests than 29 of minor increased value
ashen marsh
green eagle
sailing is all about quantity than quality
urban ridge
but also exp
little pagoda
I think never ending loot search is somewhat decent when you don't really need the materials to upgrade ship too much, assuming higher tier chest helps with artifact chance which I think it does lol
green eagle
the ONLY TIME NELS is ever worth it is if you are gone for days at a time
urban ridge
yeah, which doot emulates frequently...
green eagle
arti chance goes up from .01 to .02 with chest from wood to iron chest on current artifacts
little pagoda
That's doube chance
green eagle
yeah, which doot emulates frequently...
and only if you are claiming all your characters at the same time, THEN checking chests
little pagoda
If you have hampters on every character I can see it being decent
green eagle
when then why on earth are you doing that. 10 characters @ 50 chests per login will net you 500 chests
ashen marsh
any recommendations here?
green eagle
versus your 29 chests
urban ridge
hampters, plus alchemy, plus doot, I regularly get double sailing claims
green eagle
that is just absolutely disgusting and not worth whatsoever
urban ridge
I can not log in for an hour and get multiple hours of sailing
green eagle
welcome to the rest of the game with us
that's been the case for many for months now
NELS still hasn't been and won't be viable
urban ridge
so a couple extra wooden chests is silly
green eagle
working on eldritch artifacts > your tiny sailing exp
urban ridge
you need to check your maths, as orlando said, one chest upgrade is double odds
when you're getting like 20 hours sailing you get more than one chest upgrade
so you're getting one extra chest, i.e. double odds, but I'm getting more than one chest upgrade, i.e. more than double odds
green eagle
.01 to .02 up to .05 is not ever worth the 29 vs 500 chests
sorry bud
you're in the wrong here
many agree with me
little pagoda
It's never necessary but it can be DECENT if you are kinda lazy to check it every single time you login
urban ridge
I'm not taking 29 vs 500 chests?
fathom lagoon
I can confirm 500 > 29
urban ridge
why are you comparing checking every character in one situation versus checking it once per 10 characters in another?
fathom lagoon
urban ridge
discord mod moment
split orbit
do dks ,es, and sb, stack in talents for exp
little pagoda
do dks ,es, and sb, stack in talents for exp
nope
ashen marsh
any reccommendations here?
green eagle
290 .02 or even .03 chests vs 500 .01 chests
fathom lagoon
any reccommendations here?
!merit5
obtuse orbitBOT
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
green eagle
i'm going to choose the 500 once again
little pagoda
I agree that it's better without the talent and opening every single chest but sometimes you just want to see your ships zoom zoom lmao
rotund smelt
Am I misunderstanding how this works because post-eldritch I swear I have the same cap as pre-eldritch
crystal temple
the lower the chance of obtaining the rng thing the more volume matters over quality
signal osprey
Am I misunderstanding how this works because post-eldritch I swear I have the sa...
The eldritch version just doesnt work for some reason lol
little pagoda
The later artifacts are such a damage increase
I was working on ancient fury for a few days, finally got it, but really not looking forward to those artifact odds on later islands lol
rotund smelt
I was working on ancient fury for a few days, finally got it, but really not loo...
It's even more fun when you only have 1 boat that reaches the speed for the island
little pagoda
It's even more fun when you only have 1 boat that reaches the speed for the isla...
Some of my ships are literally useless because they can't reach islands with artifacts available anymore, so I still gotta work a fair bit on sailing, gonna start farming max hampsters for all chars soon
And eldritch I dont even want to worry right now lol
But rift is something I will progress soon too
Ok now I need a trophy doubler
rotund smelt
I just stopped rift after getting eldritch unlocked since rest of rewards don't currently appeal to me that much
little pagoda
I just stopped rift after getting eldritch unlocked since rest of rewards don't ...
5 star cards is great but also a huge grind so yeah no need to rush it too much
maiden charm
Can you still unlock iron skillet trophy?
signal lava
vial and construction mastery aren't bad
little pagoda
I'm finishing up my sampling so I can start getting the good stuff from atom collider too, that is my priority
rotund smelt
Ye its not like stuff after eldritch unlock in rift is bad. It's just I currently wouldn't benefit much from them so I don't have any reason to unlock them currently
paper nova
10th char. I have 2 SB and 2 DK - do i go for a 2nd ES or 2nd bubo for lab slave?
little pagoda
10th char. I have 2 SB and 2 DK - do i go for a 2nd ES or 2nd bubo for lab slave...
2nd ES
little pagoda
K, what do I use it for? 🤷♂️
It's good because it gets 2 god links
little pagoda
Good for 3d printing
Yeah good to help with divinity a bit too
2nd bubo doesn't really help, 1 is enough
paper nova
kty
true obsidian
wait, this can't not be farm?
pure crown
You get 10k as quest rewards for the 3rd tier Monolith quest
Visible on the right in the screenshot
true obsidian
You get 10k as quest rewards for the 3rd tier Monolith quest
but still can't farm?
pure crown
Not that I've seen
true obsidian
seem like w3 statues only farm with ES not DK?
true obsidian
ah...right, w3 mobs have statues in their normal drop table not rare drop or crystal drop
umbral tapir
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
1. loo...
Do the tab 4 talent points work for vman?
(This is not a question to the bot)
bleak gust
at what god should i be allowing a few chars to go skill and what not
prisma drift
Do I encourage my little buddy?
boreal scaffold
at what god should i be allowing a few chars to go skill and what not
Snake (maybe)
bleak gust
really i got the 100% hare but i need the points
pearl cedar
How much def for 40 on shimmer?
fast grail
330k iirc
boreal scaffold
really i got the 100% hare but i need the points
Hare triples your prints, and stacks with lab for 6x
heavy moth
feels good
untold saffron
boreal scaffold
Pog
heavy moth
is that talent from the shimmer island ?
pearl cedar
Have to atom click fmj 🤢
untold saffron
is that talent from the shimmer island ?
its the archer special crafting boost init?
prisma drift
I’ve also just got bribes 
boreal scaffold
is that talent from the shimmer island ?
Its a buff to Archer talent
heavy moth
its the archer special crafting boost init?
damnn so crafted on archer it can give +12 stats
prisma drift
Im way too lazy to roll for a +1 equipment slot all kattle stone +12 stat piece
Y’all have fun with that meta game stuff
untold saffron
me too
boreal scaffold
Too bad that godly creation's chance of proc is like 30% or less
prisma drift
And then you gamble kattle stones
untold saffron
these skulls though, I'm in love
opaque sun
basically a way to buff bubo’s gloves a bit
boreal scaffold
And then you gamble kattle stones <:GuyMontag:859584397539278859>
Imagine if next pet increases Stone success chance by 40%
prisma drift
Im just gonna get a new bubo when we get more character slots
Throw the best gloves available on him
heavy moth
so rando is empty if you done a daily random event 😮 thought it was gonna gives a second one
heavy moth
yea just did it at nutto before unlocking island and except the dude asking for bottel to gives upgrade theres nothing
did a huge 1 trash with the bribe
prisma drift
so rando is empty if you done a daily random event 😮 thought it was gonna gives...
Rando is once a week
Not once a day
heavy moth
but when XD just had my weekly reset and just unlocked rando
untold saffron
https://i.gyazo.com/3ca790a82460e5b6c7eb64db6c3b5950.png
can I have a red gun for my vman please
prisma drift
Nah it’s just a shop to spend extra bottles
fossil urchin
i mean, that's what i thought XD
amber dragon
!merit5
obtuse orbitBOT
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
dapper prism
yea just did it at nutto before unlocking island and except the dude asking for ...
At least you have a cute island, missing a chair though
heavy moth
At least you have a cute island, missing a chair though
ahaha yea, i was too hype for so little ahah
barren otter
you buy the pack
sick sentinel
The molten bundle cape gives dr
gray pagoda
What's the best free cape? Mb, should've specified.
barren otter
there is no free cape that gives drop rate
sick sentinel
Nothing rly
sick sentinel
Besides the little bit you get from all stats troll cape
barren otter
for 0.01x dr
gray pagoda
I guess that's true
sick sentinel
Yuuuge
gray pagoda
for 0.01x dr <:happy:644766908218081300>
I'll be drowning in those gains 💪
barren otter
all of the special tab items that give drop rate except for trophy is mostly all bought with cash
gray pagoda
Why, Lava? Don't you remember your promise 
magic oyster
Doot says no
gray pagoda
There goes the "I'm trying to make a free game with some purchases to avoid the greed all these other games have"
opaque sun
dr cape is limited time/bundle only
gray pagoda
It's kind of sad tbh. I've been playing for a while, and watching Lava slowly slip into the greed that he promised to avoid sucks.
Don't get me wrong, I still love all the updates and stuff just... It's getting harder to say you don't have to pay to get far in the game quickly.
opaque sun
when it was in the limited time cape gacha, it was obtainable free in a way since you used gems
barren otter
think youll be fine missing out on 30% dr...
gray pagoda
It's not just the drop rate I'm talking about, it's all the new bundles and (especially) pets
I don't really care about the drop rate, I just don't like people straying away from what the whole purpose of something was
Eh, either way I'll still play lol. Just recently got my second lucky lad from my BB who was fishing.
opaque sun
that was the whole debacle of the doot incident
when lava original statement introducing the game was “f2p” and not like some cashgrab like those other games made by companies
gray pagoda
Yeah, doot is nearly unachievable for someone completely f2p. But what I'm most mad about is losing so many people, especially Palmer. I know he may see me as just another subscriber, but he was a great guy, and seemed super genuine when we talked about the situation.
And when I say "just another subscriber" I'm not saying he doesn't care, there's just a lot of people for him to keep track of.
edgy tusk
I'm never gonna unlock the last type of plant in gaming. Any tips?
stark urchin
Guys how much would you spend on a classy watch ? I want one for daily wear
opaque sun
new w5 item?
pearl cedar
Guys how much would you spend on a classy watch ? I want one for daily wear
No more than $10k
lavish grotto
Do green stacks really count everything in storage, even ketchup and mustard from quest exclusive drops?
My storage will suffer for this
uncut hull
Does the starsign doubler chip double all infinite star signs or just the ones you're alligned to?
sick sentinel
Does the starsign doubler chip double all infinite star signs or just the ones y...
Aligned ones
exotic juniper
I'm never gonna unlock the last type of plant in gaming. Any tips?
just try after each page refill. The odds will be around 0.2% but just do that. dont save up
left robin
what are the chances w6 comes out before i finish trove sigil (55 days)
sour oasis
I just got enough trash for the third dice stamp, bought it, then got too excited about finally having the stamp so i teleported out of the map without picking it up
-80 trash 
exotic juniper
is there a chart for BiS cards for skilling with the rift passives equipped?
sick sentinel
U mean with passive cards? Chaotic troll, amarok, bunny, all stats, base stat, exp, food effect for whatever you need
gentle furnace
<@437462520303976468> its taking shape
im still at 1 red only
exotic juniper
ES active best to farm this out, right?
bold quiver
im still at 1 red only <:GuyMontag:859584397539278859>
first one of mine took so long, but then igot 2 , 😮
u have to be chosen by the egg
proud swallow
so are most people dumping large numbers of statues at once or lvl by lvl
paper nova
I dump daily but that's a good bubble to get high earlier than later so you don't have to hoard statues
wind umbra
ES active best to farm this out, right?
ye Es best active to farm mob mats. There is another option of using vman to print the mob mats
proud swallow
I dump daily but that's a good bubble to get high earlier than later so you don'...
i got that vial maxed, i mean after onyxing, just lump sum or the long way
paper nova
oooh i didn't realize what chat i was in. Not sure after onyx. Not there yet
proud swallow
ah....i have also relized what chat i'm in.. lol thnks for the help tho
exotic juniper
I heard 1 by 1 is technically more efficient but idk. who has time for all that
lapis mesa
so close, just an eldritch fury away
exotic juniper
been trying to grt fury eldritch too
lapis mesa
gotta love that .02 and .01 chance
lapis mesa
you have ancient fury?
do you have the atom collider bonus?
do you have the checkout 1k books achieve bonus?
tawdry ocean
sad days, been stuck at 27k nug for 4 months
lapis mesa
i specifically decided to save up just to get the +10
exotic juniper
i got pretty lucky with my nugget
lapis mesa
i was worried it would need to be 10 levels in it, but fortunately you have just to unlock it
man i want your nugget
exotic juniper
yea thanks for the reminder to save up atoms
lapis mesa
mines not bad, 28k, but i dont make enough for that stupid snail yet
exotic juniper
how many bits do you get each day about?
lapis mesa
thats a very good question,, uh 1-2 bil green?
idk.. i havent actually counted it
used a chem for my 20 ish hour gain would only be like 300 mil
i definitely do not get 1-2b green
that was very bad math
exotic juniper
oh yea not enough prob
you have the ancients for + bit% and DK giving bit % increase?
lapis mesa
uh, DK is giving increase, not sure on the artifact.. i know i at least have it
gummy orb and the weather book are only basic
wonder if i should split for those instead of eldritch fury
lament shale
hello, I have question about a weird behavior : I have the king doot companion, but divinities aren't unlocked yet (I have access to the system, just not unlocked all divinities) but the divinities, even the one not unlocked are giving me their bonus, is it normal ?
exotic juniper
wonder if i should split for those instead of eldritch fury
they help a lot
onyx fern
Yes
lapis mesa
they help a lot
ive been trying for fury for about a week now. probably a good time to switch to something else anyway
opaque sun
hello, I have question about a weird behavior : I have the king doot companion, ...
Thats the whole point of doot
exotic juniper
i leveled up first firtilizer a lot too for the base # to be decent
lament shale
I see... I was expecting to have them active as long as I had unlocked each of them
onyx fern
The only reasons to unlock divinities if you have doot are:
Blessings
God rank
lapis mesa
i leveled up first firtilizer a lot too for the base # to be decent
i mean, i throw points at it when i have it, 252 so far
exotic juniper
wait isnt 252 like 20b cost?
exotic juniper
huh
maybe my nugget is just really good. I got snail when I was less than that
but 155k nugget so 🤷♂️
onyx fern
I got one!!
Didn't roll for +1 misc? 
lapis mesa
no.. i didnt know to reroll dice from silver.. i knew to reroll pop at bronze
opaque sun
which suggests didnt reroll for others too
exotic juniper
so expensive now rerolling demntias
lapis mesa
its not getting rerolled.. ill deal with as is til i have choco chip to make them fall from the sky
exotic juniper
yea farming statues in w2 you get so many dice
lapis mesa
i still dont see how im supposed to turn this 6.5 DR with an almost full family and personal drop set into the 20 you guys pull, but im trying
exotic juniper
im stuck on 11. 6.5 seems low if you have obols already
sour oasis
The total drop rate on the obol page if your full optimized should be like 290%
lapis mesa
ok, so that gets me to what.. 7?
onyx fern
Ye
exotic juniper
have lvl 4/5 DR cards?
onyx fern
And you then have cards to worry about
Sigil is also a pretty good one thanks to chilled yarn, if you haven't yet
Midas minded too
lapis mesa
mimic and bop are done, need to farm brightside, doots a 3*
sour oasis
midas curse?
lapis mesa
have first stage on trove and working on second stage of it and pea pod
onyx fern
Midas minded gives DR
Curse is extra mob HP
exotic juniper
heard you dont want midas when on ES?
sour oasis
you dont, but i dont think he was asking about a specific class
onyx fern
Ye, extra mob HP means wormhole scales faster, and higher wormhole count >>>>>> midas drop rate increase
So you don't want midas on ES
Atleast if active farming mobs, ofc
lapis mesa
hmm, guess my refinery ran out of lenses.. oh well off to w3
opaque sun
the penalty of midas costs more than the 118% dr
onyx fern
Not sure how to interpret the 'penguins was 21% better than sheepies 101 vs 83' stuff
Since like, 101 and 83 are not active ES values I'd assume
Since the earlier note mentions it's around x10 better than candy
And candy is listed at the end notes
So like, wtf is 101 and 83?
sour oasis
Maybe amount of statues dropped in 10 minutes with active ES?
Chart says active ES is better than candies, and a further explanation that penguins drop more statues than sheep
onyx fern
What kind of psycho measures based off 10 mins
sour oasis
Well he did some preliminary testing with DK where he measured 4 orbs which is around 9 minutes. Reason cited was he did not want to spend many hours on each different monster
rough wasp
das alotta bits
sour oasis
I figure it might be the same with the active ES testing. Some arbitrary amount of time spent at each monster to see what the statue drops are like
onyx fern
Ye, but the testing mentions it was 9 min rounds
sour oasis
That was for DK specifically
sour oasis
Yeah