lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[hidden sphinx]

I probs sold it accidentally when I was getting rid of the junk rewards 😦

[hidden grove]

is chocochip in the gamba jems in the shop?

[rustic garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/cookie-clicker-click-frenzy-click-mouse-fast-clicking-gif-17810486

[thorn marsh]

I read that first word as something completely different

[hidden grove]

I know what I must do but idk if I have the strength to do it

[hidden sphinx]

Do it

It’s either gamba or wait until December

[thorn marsh]

I got it 4th(ish) try

[hidden sphinx]

I never got it from gamba

Did like 15 buys

🙂

Good luck!

[rustic garnet]

worst rotation all season

[hidden sphinx]

I need the other card doubler to what I have

The top left one

[signal osprey]

Well the nice part about the gamba for choco is that there are still a decent number of chips that will be useful to have

So even if you lose you can still kinda win

[hidden sphinx]

Then just wanna fill up on skill xp, skill and fight afk and dmg chips

[hidden sphinx]

I don’t think I got any good chips from gamba icl, best was probs base efficiency

The dr and speed boost were good for a while but they’re useless to me no

[twin token]

20% eff the orange and black doubler chips aswell as mk chips are all rlly good

[rustic garnet]

gamba 1 x:

[hidden sphinx]

Wish I’d gotten them 👍🏻

But I got doot so my rng was being saved

[twin token]

Afk ones are p nice too

[signal osprey]

Yeah if you didn't get any doublers in 15 rolls thats just unlucky

[twin token]

Yeah

[rustic garnet]

I think I've got enough afk dobulers

[signal osprey]

Definitely not the norm

[hidden grove]

lava needs a g greem and reg gem pack again

[rustic garnet]

I'm still missing an entire chip

[twin token]

I dunno what that means but I agree

[hidden sphinx]

Reg gem is likely to be added when w6 drops

Pet gem will probs be added when new pet rotation drops

[signal osprey]

Oof thats like the best chip too

[rustic garnet]

oh you think he's going to drop 10%-20% of his player base again? Nah, pets are dead :p

[hidden sphinx]

Smart thing is to just make free pets a daily roll rather then weekly

[signal osprey]

That wouldn't be smart at all

[rustic garnet]

nope

[twin token]

Pendant chip?

[rustic garnet]

completely forgetting it existed and acting like it didn't happen, that's the 'smart' play

[signal osprey]

He made it out and still has a game intact. He has no reason to do anything

[hidden sphinx]

That’s true I suppose

[twin token]

I'd honestly think that trophy or starsign ar ebetter untill u get kattle scarf

[signal osprey]

Giving more rolls gives us less incentive to spend money

[hidden sphinx]

As long as he doesn’t remove pets

[rustic garnet]

gamba 2:

[twin token]

Rip

[hidden sphinx]

I couldn’t deal without having the top 3 pets lol

[rustic garnet]

base eff is awful

not having doot is incredibly soul destroying

I have 5 or 6 chars in the lab permanently

[signal osprey]

I'm dootless and doing just fine 🤷‍♂️

[rustic garnet]

the near 70% reduction in afk % is big too

[twin token]

Bass eff is good but gets outclassed by other stuff

[rustic garnet]

base eff isn't good compared to 20% eff

it's not even close

[twin token]

Wait till he realizes ppl have been playing the game for 2 years without companions

[twin token]

It's good, just gets outclassed

[rustic garnet]

I mean, it's not good.... It doesn't 'get outclassed' it never was good

[signal osprey]

Thats not true at all

Base eff chip used to be significantly better than the 20%

[twin token]

Nah 250 base eff is Def good

[signal osprey]

Multitool changed that by inflating our base eff

[rustic garnet]

yes, before multitool

before, yes

now, no

[twin token]

There are so many effeciency multipliers in the game that 250 base eff is gonnabe way more than 250

[rustic garnet]

base eff, right now, is not worth taking

[signal osprey]

Neither is worth taking if you can help it

[rustic garnet]

well sure

[twin token]

Yeah gets outclassed by other stuff like I said

[signal osprey]

You run 6 doubler and an afk chip in a perfect world

[rustic garnet]

but if you wanted a high 'efficiency' thing, you want the 20%

doubler?

can you do more than 1 card dobuler?

[twin token]

So you wouldn't use it but it's a good buff If you don't have anything better

No 2 card doubler and 4 orange doublers

[signal osprey]

No but there are pendant keychain trophy and star sign doublers

[rustic garnet]

ah

[signal osprey]

And for most activities those are better than both eff chips

Maybe trapping/worship is an exception I guess

[twin token]

You'd run 6 doublers afk gains and eff chip right?

[signal osprey]

As no keychains are useful for those

[rustic garnet]

I didn't think starsigns would outperform 20% eff

I guess afk % is just too good?

[signal osprey]

No because thats 8 chips and we only have 7 slots. You run 6 doublers and afk for most things

[twin token]

Oh never counted the slots

[rustic garnet]

ok, let me put it another way... 250 eff is very far down the good draw line 😄

[twin token]

O thought there was 8 slots

[signal osprey]

Star sign has good options for everything

Its a bis chip for every activity in the game no question

[twin token]

Nah just saying that if you get it while you don't have enough good chips to fill your charachters it's gonna be a good help. But when you do then that's one of the things that gets replaced

[signal osprey]

Yeah the base eff chip is a strong chip in its own right

Just never a top pick

[rustic garnet]

ok, if you have nothing, sure, fine

I have 5 20% eff chips

I won't use it

[twin token]

That's what I meant by its good but gets outclassed

[rustic garnet]

even in the most extreme case

[twin token]

Yeah bc it gets outclassed

[rustic garnet]

that suggests there's a time where it isn't outclassed

and that is only when you are saying 'no other option'

that's like saying 'nothing is outclassed by something'

[twin token]

Before you have the things to outclass it

[rustic garnet]

reductio absurdum

[signal osprey]

Well by that logic the 20% is pointless too as you only use that when you don't have optimal chips too

[twin token]

Exactly

250 base eff is definitely not "nothing"

[signal osprey]

Like this argument is literally who gets the bronze medal lol

[twin token]

But since there are better chips it gets outclassed

[signal osprey]

Neither are that good

[rustic garnet]

Right, cool, it's a bad chip

maybe D tier

[signal osprey]

Its the Amarok gear of chips

[twin token]

Alr I'm done arguing

[signal osprey]

You can clear W5 with it if you want to

But there's no reason to want to

[heavy moth]

soon ill rule the worl with my army of sheep

[rustic garnet]

when you show off your roll and someone says 'RIP' you aren't celebrating

the funny thing is, I see so many people begging for the choco chip

I have like 5 and never rolled

[twin token]

I hope this is cropped lol

[rustic garnet]

it's definitely a goof account

he's only got 7 buys

6*

[heavy moth]

ahaha yea it is XD those are just my recent ones, i got one of each at the top

[coral goblet]

Can you stack choccy chips?

[rustic garnet]

no

[twin token]

Imagine 2 chocolate chips

[coral goblet]

o ok

[twin token]

100% chance to spawn an extra crystal and 50% to spawn 2

[violet iris]

It already stacks with itself. Those chains of 10 crystals in a row are amazeballs

[hidden grove]

2 is all a boy can afford

[rustic garnet]

ouch

line width may be 'just always bad'

[hidden grove]

20% total skill eff any good ?

[rustic garnet]

I think it's fine

B tier 😄

Doublers, Choco, and Card Doublers are all S/A Tier

[violet iris]

and afkers

[rustic garnet]

AFK gain fight/skill is A tier,

[twin token]

Afk is a yeah

[rustic garnet]

There is some value in most chips at some point

[hidden grove]

huge I bought one more lmao

[glad crow]

except line width.... me and the homies hate line widtdh

[rustic garnet]

10% defense, 12% line width, 30% move speed under 170 are probably the ones I'd point at and say are awful

sure, there might be a super super small period of time where MS is a boost to some char early on

but... eh

you quickly get potions in 3 slots

if you ever have to use defense on wurms, from lab, you are crying I'm sure

[violet iris]

fight afk is solid

[paper sail]

We all start somewhere

[signal osprey]

10% defense has a shimmer trial now though.

[twin token]

True

[rustic garnet]

oh yeah

that's actually a good shout

[twin token]

Bottom b maybe

[violet iris]

yeah that trial was fun. respeccing a squire just to beef defense

[rustic garnet]

shimmer trials may give you another point break with 10% defense stack 😄

lol for defense? F tier still :p

[molten cairn]

oh boy, an extra .3% at the book lol

[twin token]

I dunno how the shimmer stuff scales so I'm not too sure on the placement

[signal osprey]

Especially since the defense trial is one of the useful trials

[rustic garnet]

you can get a big stack from defense

[signal osprey]

40 shimmers is very doable on that one

[molten cairn]

wtf game gimme a def trial

[twin token]

Wait that means w3 card set is actually useful

[rustic garnet]

for like 2 seconds :p

[hidden sphinx]

For the soda poisoning achievement can you only use 3 poisoning elders?

[molten cairn]

I keep getting guild points and catching efficiency

[rustic garnet]

and you may get more value from food

[signal osprey]

Its one of the very few good trials. Its not as free as accuracy which is a guaranteed 40 but you can reach 40 with a bit of effort

[twin token]

What food gives defense

[signal osprey]

Gold meat pie

[hidden sphinx]

Gold meat pie

[twin token]

Oh yeah

[rustic garnet]

wtb guild points:

[signal osprey]

Its earn X amount in a week

[rustic garnet]

ok... so 650 gets you what?

[signal osprey]

10

[rustic garnet]

what a crock 😦

[signal osprey]

Maybe 11. I've only seen a pic with 600 getting 10

[molten cairn]

wonder why he decided a couple trials would give ~4x the shimmer as the others

[rustic garnet]

Lava, legitimately, doesn't think too deeply about some of these decisions

[signal osprey]

He didn't. He picked arbitrary numbers that seemed good

[rustic garnet]

the variance is just variance and fine in the long run

[twin token]

What determines th amount of DNA I get when I pick a plant

[rustic garnet]

doesn't matter, just spam for chems

every time you got anything to spend, roll it

[twin token]

I keep hearing diff stuff and am just waiting till 10 dna

[molten cairn]

if youre going for chem spam

[paper sail]

DNA is per evo stage I thought

[twin token]

Sometimes I get 1 DNA from a t4 and 3 from a t3 so Def not

[rustic garnet]

it's most effiecient to just keep clicking

[molten cairn]

should really put all of your stuff along a wall so that the area stuff can spawn in is restricted

better cacti

and much better qol

[rustic garnet]

is that not close enough to th ewall?

[twin token]

Would it be worth destroying my Bit gains by equipping kitsune and claiming t1s every time

[signal osprey]

Its probably just random. You have a % chance to get an amount of DNA between 1 and 3

[rustic garnet]

better?

[twin token]

Oh ok that would make sense

[molten cairn]

yeah like that

[violet iris]

nothing on the left or right

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/1STsVup.png

^ even better

[rustic garnet]

ty trickz

[twin token]

Didn't know that was optimal lol

[signal osprey]

Even better is just not opening gaming

[dapper prism]

Stuff can still spawn on snail btw

[molten cairn]

techinically optimal, really it's just to make clicking easier

[dapper prism]

Not just for clicking

[rustic garnet]

I mean, I only click on a couple things

but if you hate gaming there is a side way to do it

[dapper prism]

Cactus spawns have more things in range = more mutations due to compact layout

[rustic garnet]

just.... harvest all basically 100% of the time

[dapper prism]

Also, good morning 🙂

[signal osprey]

Only thing you click in gaming is harvest all

[molten cairn]

yeah that's the technically part

[signal osprey]

And then you hit esc

[twin token]

Who doesnt hate gaming

[molten cairn]

it's not that big a deal though

[rustic garnet]

I think the thing that sucks about gaming is it is really, really intensive clicking

and all you want to do is not click a chem

that's all you want to do

harvest all but chem would be a HUGE qol to gaming

[twin token]

I just hate that literally every aspect of gaming is rng in some form

[rustic garnet]

I mean, it is called gaming

[signal osprey]

Its biggest issue is that it doesn't do anything. After you get the 2 red bit superbit gaming loses all significance

Its dead content

[molten cairn]

you don't want to collect berries b4 evo 4 either

[rustic garnet]

I want this

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure it doesn't work lol

I know the first one doesn't at least

[rustic garnet]

is that a 'for sure' thing?

[signal osprey]

And even if it did that doesn't change my point

That just moves the goal post

You unlock that superbit and then gaming does nothing

[molten cairn]

yeah we're just waiting on another multiplier for the +10 atom lvls

[dapper prism]

Yeh but that ones is the 2nd last unlock

[rustic garnet]

sure, I agree, super bit is the only point in gaming

[dapper prism]

800t red, big jump from 2 red to that xD

[rustic garnet]

oh hey, I could save for skill exp MSA

I'm in the Ks now

the snail is the worst part btw

[signal osprey]

Too bad its additive

[barren otter]

msa skill xp is trash

[rustic garnet]

eww

[molten cairn]

i mean what else are you going to spend bits on tho

[signal osprey]

Thats why I said after 2 red bits gaming dies

[dapper prism]

It's barely even 1x

[signal osprey]

Only thing left is 90q but thats not possible

[molten cairn]

only reason im still gaming is to make sure i can hit 90q asap once he adds another multiplier

that one is broken

[full cobalt]

jesus christ i've been active on this for a week

why does lava hate me

[lost tendon]

how u get such high bitties

teach

[rustic garnet]

so much effort/time/patience

just... keep going?

[paper sail]

You're wasting your time at this point. You're not ready

[dapper prism]

Because you are focusing it too early and/or did not setup your stuff right yet...
E.g. I'd get ~7k+ per hour i think

[rustic garnet]

Billy -- are you using a DK on beanz?

[full cobalt]

probably both

[lost tendon]

im not even at snail yet

[viral snow]

Your crystal rate /DR is not great most likely

[full cobalt]

ohhhh

[dapper prism]

Also did you get crystal cards? Drop rate? etc.

[rustic garnet]

No, he's not on a DK at beanz

that's my guess

he's on ES or BB

[full cobalt]

im on a sb on slimes

[dapper prism]

based on the "ohhh" xD

[rustic garnet]

yeah

that's utter garbo

[left robin]

you probably also want chocochip before doing onyx grind

[full cobalt]

pog

[rustic garnet]

you seriously have just dunced yourself :p

read the PIN

[dapper prism]

Theres a pin that tells you where/what to use/get

[full cobalt]

lmao ive wasted time on dumber things in this game

ty

[rustic garnet]

Trickz put SO MUCH time into it

[dapper prism]

You should see the new thing im working on #soon

[rustic garnet]

#greatestguideever

[paper sail]

The day is finally here

[signal osprey]

Maximum bob gains acquired

Praise doot

[paper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-conch-gif-4612648

[signal osprey]

Same

[paper sail]

Happy all the same though

[full cobalt]

hi friends what is choco chip

is that on lab?

[dapper prism]

Lab chip

Coming back to the store on December 28

[paper sail]

This lab chip

[dapper prism]

Or gamble in gemshop

[signal osprey]

Choco chip plus auto loot is the full version of idleon. No more free trial

[rustic garnet]

honestly, I think that's basically true

you are really not playing the same game without access to statues

[full cobalt]

same

tyty

[signal osprey]

Statues isn't even the half of it

[paper sail]

Or EXP, or Money, or

[rustic garnet]

well, yeah

[signal osprey]

No active means no cc

[rustic garnet]

all of the boosts from killing crystals

[signal osprey]

Thats it right there

[rustic garnet]

ES can sorta... get you there

[signal osprey]

Get a new game

[full cobalt]

is there a tool to search card bonus text

[rustic garnet]

idleoninsight

[full cobalt]

i can't comprehend all these lil card bonuses

[dapper prism]

https://idleontoolbox.com/tools/card-search?c=squire&b=4

[full cobalt]

ty

[sour oasis]

is it possible to get higher than 16% drop on a sparkle drop obol

[dapper prism]

woups, wrong emote 👀

[rustic garnet]

BIG NO

[teal lynx]

Was that "Tap" Button always there? I wasted so much time dragging ore and bars

[dapper prism]

Highest for Misc is always only +1% of the base.

[lavish cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/gus-johnson-extreme-reaction-over-reaction-gif-9958578

[sour oasis]

ok good that means i didnt mess up anywhere

[violet iris]

Yeah it's why you can reroll a silver Six Dice and take that +1% all the way to sparkle

[dapper prism]

The only thing you don't get the maximum benefit from would be the base stats.
Costs a fortune to reroll last grades of an obol, but mainstat can go higher.

[violet iris]

true. Though I prefer to do something fun besides rerolling obols for days

[rustic garnet]

it starts to become trivial for rerolling

but yeah, if you aren't there, it's not fun

[dapper prism]

Super endgame kinda thing

[lost tendon]

Whats the best way to farm pop obols? ES?

[molten cairn]

make sure DR prayer is off

[rustic garnet]

it quickly becomes 'filter all obols'

from 'gosh I wish I had obol frags'

[lost tendon]

Midas Minded?

[molten cairn]

yeah, you don't want higher mob hp while on ES

[rustic garnet]

let's see how kachow gets with proper statue hygiene turn in

with 4 more chars to go

oh and I guess I'll be hitting 1000 mining too by doing this

hoozah

I'm taking this as an opp to ruby all my mining cards too

[violet iris]

hmm good idea. Just candy chars on various ores for the 100k

[molten cairn]

is statue turn in "hygiene" a thing? I thought it was unconfirmed

[rustic garnet]

I am trying to confirm it

as I know someone got to 147 by yolo turning in

and if I exceed that by 20%, I'll feel pretty sure of it

[molten cairn]

do you know what their bubble was at?

[rustic garnet]

~20% as obvously each level costs more than the previous

at least 21%

youtube guy 'my dudes' did it

he's probably in this chat

[violet iris]

griffybit?

[rustic garnet]

yeah

[violet iris]

thought he was mostly on the ittybittyarmy discord

[rustic garnet]

shrug

I don't follow him that closely

[kind halo]

is there no way to use candies on w5?

[rustic garnet]

correct

[molten cairn]

when w6 comes out youll be able to

[rustic garnet]

the latest worlds are candy restricted

[kind halo]

ah I see, I'm a relatively new player and rushed w3-4 to get to w5 asap haha

[molten cairn]

well you did the correct thing

[rustic garnet]

nothing wrong with that

just don't forget to bulk up on old world stuff

and don't be shocked when someone says alchemy

[crystal temple]

alchemy the skill to rule all others

[kind halo]

I'm on it. Currently sweeping W4 and gaining lvls on my other 9 characters like a breeze

[molten cairn]

and just know endgame isn't w5. It's the third map of w1

[rustic garnet]

you won't be on that map forever :p

but it does rocket your statues

I'm pretty sure onyx power spike is massive

[molten cairn]

I'm about to be on it forever, I legitimately don't know where else to be rn

[rustic garnet]

just the crit damage alone

[signal osprey]

I mean you kinda are there forever

[tacit tulip]

wow that came out to a really nice buff in the end

[signal osprey]

You do a good bit early on to start your statues and then you can go farm other stuff

But after you do some other stuff you go back to beans forever

[rustic garnet]

I'm not done 😄 it's strong though

[signal osprey]

Nothing else to do

[rustic garnet]

are the other statues just not worth the time?

[molten cairn]

im not around my computer enough to push liquids like I want to

[rustic garnet]

eh?

[tacit tulip]

they're all worth it cause it increases your statues per statue

[molten cairn]

so it's just beans till w6 i think

[rustic garnet]

you can just bubo farm liquid easy

[signal osprey]

They kinda are but beans offers more than just statues

[rustic garnet]

what else?

[signal osprey]

Leaves for chopping efficiency, hotdogs for gold peanuts, and gold noms for the stamp

[rustic garnet]

I mean, I will probably 10million greenstack time pieces...

[molten cairn]

my liquids fill up in like 20 minutes, just feels wasteful most days to be there

[signal osprey]

As well as a good lineup of statues

[rustic garnet]

ah gold peanuts, sure

[signal osprey]

Gotta green stack the gold peanuts

[stoic star]

I recently reached w5 and the thing is that the divinities show me a unlink button by all of them instead of a link button. Is it possible that all are activated or is it just a visual bug. (I dont got king doot he is the only one i am missing besides one of the common ones)

[tacit tulip]

it just lets you unlink from any god

[rustic garnet]

it's a new screen

[tacit tulip]

it brings up the unlink ui

[rustic garnet]

aye

[stoic star]

ok ty for the answer

[lost depot]

If I don't get Doot for this weekly roll I will literally drink a glass of water

[reef bough]

Same

[exotic juniper]

I got doot yesterday 🙂

[lost depot]

Down the hatch

[grizzled elk]

What kind of gains were you guys getting for W3 statues active ES?

[molten cairn]

think it was about a day per onyx for me, but I just went the candy route instead

[grizzled elk]

Any idea what your candy rates were?

[molten cairn]

don't remember, think it was like 300-400 hours per statue

[grizzled elk]

Sounds good, thanks

[clear quartz]

400 ish for me as well

afk is garbo tier though, but have my SBs poking away at them, might speed it up a smidge i suppose

[reef bough]

How many statue did you get per hour?

[fossil urchin]

i'm getting ~400 per hour active and 14 per hour candy with 15DR

[grizzled elk]

I'm only getting 20 per hour candying... so I'll just stick it out doing it active

[prisma drift]

I have photos for w3 statues

Oops I sent the 3 day one for penguins

I had like 17-18x DR and 350% afk gains

[grizzled elk]

vman claims?

[prisma drift]

Vman can’t equip divine trophy so no

Rerolling is pointless as well

[grizzled elk]

candy on whichever char can get highest DR?

[prisma drift]

Focus mob respawn and afk gains too

I doubled my gem shop mob respawn keychains and used an afk build

[grizzled elk]

hmm might have to do some tinkering then

[prisma drift]

Getting 17x dr but 150% afk gains is a lot worse than 15x and 250%

[grizzled elk]

I guess I'll see how close I can get to your numbers and go from there

[clear quartz]

im guessing all the premium gear and fun stuff is how to get afk gains that high? seems my best geared dude only hangs out at around 150% ish range

[grizzled elk]

I'm working on getting mine up right now, I'll break down mine if you want

just have to shuffle it around from a couple different chars

[vagrant mountain]

prayer, divine scarf, keychains, doublers

kruk obols

[clear quartz]

yeah thats what i do for sampling, put all the BiS gear/etc on the dude doing the given sample, and i guess for candying similar, but for passive afking i cant really spread stuff around super well

[clear quartz]

ah yeah, scarf will be nice when i get there

and the prayer, hopefully will unlock rushogen "soon"

[vagrant mountain]

I need some afk keychains lol

only have drop rate and mob respawn

[clear quartz]

i have a few decent afk ones, but also want moar and to not have to rotate them around lol

[fallen torrent]

Cake 9 we looking for 1 person for HH anyone wanna join us?

[pseudo basin]

any tips for beating Cattlekruk with Vman for the task?

[fallen torrent]

Check pins

[swift agate]

Whats kk

[fallen torrent]

Happy Hour, for dungeon

[swift agate]

Can i come

[fallen torrent]

yeah world cake 9

[swift agate]

Im rank 4p

40*

[fallen torrent]

come ^^ cake 9

frog map

[swift agate]

Okay

[willow drum]

is it happy hour?

[fallen torrent]

yeah

you can come if you want and we can run at 4

im in world cake 9

[willow drum]

ill go

[fallen torrent]

okay we start with you.

we waiting

[upbeat trout]

damn so lucky gotaction frenzy 100 and mega crit 100 with only 6k credits today

[grizzled elk]

@prisma drift went with all my afk shit and thats where I got, going to try to switch out some respawn stuff and check that

[prisma drift]

Don’t forget star signs

Also optimize chips if they aren’t

I always forget chips

[grizzled elk]

fight afk and all the doublers?

[sand summit]

Hey all asking for some wisdom on how to increase my bit gain
I feel like ive exhausted my options and still only get a million green bits per plant

[prisma drift]

Divine scarf?

[grizzled elk]

yerp

[prisma drift]

Maybe 1 doubler and a respawn? Check difference with 1 candy

[grizzled elk]

that last candy was with 10% afk keychain, going to switch out for the respawn one

[prisma drift]

Boops is kinda mid doubled

[grizzled elk]

I doubled amarok and ruby doot

[barren otter]

dont double boop

yea that

[prisma drift]

I don’t know if respawn would be better

Im not good enough at the game

[grizzled elk]

same lol

[prisma drift]

You using all kruk obols right?

[grizzled elk]

switched the two afk chains for 2 respawns, box statue went up to 37 instead of 31

[prisma drift]

I have only swapped them once for samples and forget every other time

[barren otter]

i did this -cookie +fight afk

can swap out trophy doubler if you dont have divine trophy

and run respawn instead

[sand summit]

guys how do I reach red bits

[prisma drift]

It’s all the multipliers tbh

Get all eld gaming arti

Work on achievements if you’re ignoring them

[sand summit]

people got to red bits before eldritch artifacts

you cant tell me having just ancient isnt enough

[prisma drift]

People also get 300k nuggets

Im not blessed like that

[sand summit]

i did the achievements
there has to be something else

[prisma drift]

It’s not a hard must but as I was saying it’s all the multipliers

Keep working on snail is big

[sand summit]

I CANT GET TO SNAIL

THATS THE POINT XD

[grizzled elk]

got your DK talent right?

[sand summit]

yes above 200 lvls

[prisma drift]

Snail isn’t red bits is it?

[untold lintel]

bruh

how is that so weak (misread, didnt realize that was the talent not your skill info)

[prisma drift]

I swear snail was green bits which was not the question

[untold lintel]

what are u doing wrong

[sand summit]

I asked a different question before
Asking for red bits got an answer did it not

[prisma drift]

All I see is “how do I reach red bits”

And snail is huge for that

[sand summit]

The other question that was unanswered was "how do i get more bits"

[viral snow]

To get red bits just get enough green bits

[prisma drift]

Do you have all ancient artifacts at least?

[sand summit]

yes

uhh well all gaming related ones

wait no i dont

[grizzled elk]

linking your IE would be helpful for us to see where you're missing multipliers

[sand summit]

cheeky bugger

[prisma drift]

Gaming has too many multipliers scattered tbh

Hard to give a concrete answer how to improve

For me a nugget would be nice

[sand summit]

if my only solution was nuggets and eldritch artifacts im actually going to uninstall lmao

[prisma drift]

Im 100% positive it’s not

Just based on your bit rate

[zealous niche]

12k nugget got me to snail

[grizzled elk]

I wish there was a tooltip menu on IT for bit multi similar to the cash multi menu

[vestal yew]

whats the fastest way to get 20k power statues for the monolith quest?

[zealous niche]

Saw somebody with a 10k and snail

[prisma drift]

Unless you actually have like a 5.0 nugget

[zealous niche]

Check the pins

Pretty sure ancient gaming artifacts are all that’s needed for snail too

[prisma drift]

I thought he wanted red bits that’s why I brought up snail

[tacit tulip]

I got snail with 10k too

[zealous niche]

Are you using DK bit talent?

That’s easy to forget

[sand summit]

i honestly just want to just generally progress w5 skills finally

[clear quartz]

im close to getting snail with 8k nugget

[sand summit]

Its just so boring

[zealous niche]

They’re big time gates, small progress each time

[clear quartz]

well, "close", itd probably be a couple days maybe, but might start saving here soon

[scarlet bay]

not even close to snail with a 6.6k nug

[zealous niche]

It’s now in the realm of reasonable plausibility

[prisma drift]

Sailing is pain but farming 10k golden hampster for everyone really helps

[barren otter]

why stop at 10k

[scarlet bay]

yeah, sailing is painful, go for the much less painful option of farming 100k golden hampters

[prisma drift]

Because I am a rushed account and have other stuff to do

[somber path]

Anyone able to point me in the direction of the w2 td guide? Couldn't find it anywhere and endgame is crickets

[sand summit]

10000 on each character?
Is that really worth it compared to 1000

[barren otter]

but how else are you going to get to 100%

[prisma drift]

Shimmeron and golden apple stamp go brrrr

[barren otter]

50k doesnt cut it

[sand summit]

i can totally work towards hampters
i still need w5 statues for onyx

[prisma drift]

Man I only have like 300k total

[prisma drift]

Works out perfect then

[sand summit]

but i also still need statues for w4

and w3

[prisma drift]

W3 is candy

No DK farming

[sand summit]

i was told you use ES for those

[prisma drift]

If you wanna spend 3-5 days a pop active

I would prefer to use my active time elsewhere

[prisma drift]

Flex

[sick sentinel]

i did half active half candy cause i had nothin better to do

[barren otter]

so close to 100...

[sweet mountain]

I know we have a channel for best suggestions, but where can I actually suggest something? Is it taken from all the channels?

[prisma drift]

I have too much to do

[grizzled elk]

does hampter add with the bubble?

[scarlet bay]

I have plenty better to do, but not enough candy

[bright current]

am i trippin, or do moles in the W5 boss keep moving and heal the boss if u use BM to freeze them?

like the sprite stays there, but particles appears eventually

[scarlet bay]

they heal based on time on screen

so you can't slow or stop them

[upbeat trout]

what is the good stop for blooming axe upgrade in breeding ?

[barren otter]

im inclined to say yea it does add

[bright current]

.>

[scarlet bay]

only way to stop the heal is kill them or kill the boss

[bright current]

oh well

hes getting there...

[sand summit]

I have used 40 sailing candy to get my last gaming artifact to ancient

[sand summit]

An improvement

[pearl cedar]

240 crystal stamp or 112 gold food?

[barren otter]

crystal

for more BEANS

[pearl cedar]

Been buboing a lot lately. Need to get back to beans

[prisma drift]

That’s double

[sand summit]

I really shouldnt complain about double gains

Ill uhh

ill complain about half the grind time

guess hampters it is

[tacit tulip]

soon

[chrome tiger]

That's what I'm on too

[prisma drift]

Bullseye was enough ES for me

[chrome tiger]

I skipped the ocean mans though, gonna have to go back and do that

Yeah bullseye was the worst so far

[prisma drift]

Ocean man are way easier than w3

I was getting 215 an hour

[chrome tiger]

Pretty good.. active or candy

[prisma drift]

Candy

Idk if you can get statues active

[chrome tiger]

My numbers were pretty pathetic compared to the spread sheet guy

[prisma drift]

For ocean man or w3?

[chrome tiger]

For w3

[prisma drift]

Yeah that’s what 400% afk gains does to ya

[chrome tiger]

Lol. Doot doot

[gleaming grail]

!wood

[fast grail]

Doot probably gives like +80% afk, shouldnt have less than 2/3rds of what they got if you have everything else proper

[prisma drift]

Rash OP

I couldn’t get his numbers

[sharp igloo]

Finally got a kattle cape on my DK, but his level is too low to equip the scarf, so I cant finish the quest to get the trophy lol

[signal osprey]

Active farm some wurms. DK is the fastest leveler in the game

[sharp igloo]

Oh really? Faster than bubo? My bubo got to 480 from activing wurms for a few days, and my DK is only 400, so if he levels even faster, Ill probably be able to equip it by tomorrow

[vagrant mountain]

DK op

[signal osprey]

It'll be a little dependent on talent levels and so on but yeah assuming a pretty maxed out DK hes definitely faster. Even if not fully minmaxed he should still level pretty fast

[sharp igloo]

Sweet. Worth doubling the moon guy card from w2?

[signal osprey]

Yeah if exp is the main goal always double moonmoon and genie

[vagrant mountain]

really? isn't it better to double crystals

they give 30x exp

[signal osprey]

Active exp is a separate multiplier and moonmoon gives 96% when doubled. That card single handedly doubles your exp

[vagrant mountain]

ohhh

interesting

[signal osprey]

Plus you can still run the poop card you just dont double it

[sharp igloo]

Does the 20% xp from the trailblazer trophy multiply well or does it basically do nothing now that there are so many other xp multipliers?

[vagrant mountain]

I don't think so

[scarlet bay]

pretty sure anything that isn't "while active" is basically nothing

[brisk anvil]

What's some good mobs to sit characters at when I don't have any particular aims/can't be bothered thinking what I need

[vagrant mountain]

I believe Class EXP and Monster EXP are added to your sheet class exp and then active EXP sources are multiplicative and don't show up in your sheet if I understand correctly

[sharp igloo]

Gmush, Sandy pots, tremor wurms, clammies, the hammer guys from end of w4, and stilltmoles

[signal osprey]

Yeah I dont have trail blazer but if it doesnt specify active exp its bad

[zealous niche]

“Exp while active” is what you’re looking for

[brisk anvil]

Perfect, thanks!

[signal osprey]

Its technically the best trophy still for pure exp gains but it will be a very small boost

[sharp igloo]

Okay. Ill just stick with lucky lad then so I get more keys

[signal osprey]

It has happened

[rough wasp]

Do you get more than 100% chance to deposit statues for the vial with the rift bonus?

[signal osprey]

It caps at 100%

[rough wasp]

o but it’s only possible with the rift bonus giving the multiplier right?

[pure ember]

It caps?

[signal osprey]

Yeah anything past 100% does nothing

And 27 vials maxed is required to reach 100%

[rough wasp]

Guess I gotta work on my rift again

🥲

Thanks 👍

[sharp igloo]

Do most people stop at lv 4 for the pearler shell vial?

[signal osprey]

Most people dont even get to 4 but among those that do yeah they probably stop there

Although going for 5 isnt too terrible and quite a few people have done it

[sharp igloo]

Mines level 3, and I was considering 4 since I want money statues anyway but idk

[scarlet bay]

I'm about to abandon the w3 statues entirely, lmao

this is painful

[signal osprey]

I did my full 1b clammies on active DK for lots of W4 statues and got level 4 vial in the process

[rough wasp]

[sharp igloo]

How much %money does your petunia statue give now?

[rough wasp]

Did you do the Onyx statue quest line on everyone lmao

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[rough wasp]

I’m hoarding my statues now until I get my rift and snakeskin vial up

[sharp igloo]

Ooo nice. Ill probably do that then after I get to lv 450 for the trophy

[signal osprey]

I might do another 1b kills tbh

Get more statues and do my level 5 vial

[rough wasp]

My DK is collecting dust while waiting for chocolately chip

[sharp igloo]

Yeah I wanna get my money gains up before w6, but I also wanna work on alchemy. Hard to pick between active bubo and dk lol

[misty spindle]

Is purrmep pretty much the last god I need to really rush for?

I feel like the one after is whatever

[signal osprey]

Yeah the last 3 are bad

Just do them later when you have more div bonuses

[zealous niche]

You’ll want them eventually for the blessings

[sharp igloo]

Is the elephant the next one or the bird?

[signal osprey]

bird

[rough wasp]

Alchemy

[zealous niche]

But definitely not rush

[dapper prism]

Only ||115|| days until Choco chip comes back to the store unless you gamble for it xD

[rough wasp]

I gamba’d a ton of tons 🥲

[signal osprey]

Its worth the gamble. Choco is a completely different game

[rough wasp]

At least I got 2 of the omega chips

[signal osprey]

Yeah you have decent odds of getting other useful stuff along the way

[dapper prism]

but the odds are also a bit eh. getting card chips is pretty nice though

[rough wasp]

And it was free gems

[scarlet bay]

good call, i'm gonna gamble some chips, i have nothing else to spend my gems on

[sharp igloo]

I just want more double card chips

[scarlet bay]

and i need more doublers

[rough wasp]

That’s why I Gambled lmao. At least the double cards are nice too

[scarlet bay]

hmm, two +20% skill eff and a doubled pendant, not too bad

[rough wasp]

I’m holding off on the onyx quest line cause farming the statues is a PITA without chip :/

[signal osprey]

Pendant doubler is always a win

[scarlet bay]

that's 20% more damage, so i'll take it

i really wanted the other card doubler, i have the bottom right one

[signal osprey]

After you have at least one set of card doublers for crystal farming, pendant doubler is the best chip to get with the new kruk neck

Its bis for basically everything

[dapper prism]

At least your odds are like a 50-50 between useful and trash ones.
Although 1/22 for choco at 7 tries a week is a bit rough, at least ~10ish are decent, and 12 options are eh.

[barren otter]

i just pictured what it would be like statue farming without choco and it hurts

[signal osprey]

Yeah its not pleasant but at the same time it could be worse. A lot of people just completely neglect all the other important aspects and that does more harm than not having choco does

Sometimes people post in here about theor statue farming and I just dont understand what theyre even attempting to do

[grizzled elk]

1300 candy hours an unreasonable amount to spend to onyx the W3 statues?

[sharp igloo]

Does choco and crystal cards and all that stuff effect crystal island?

[scarlet bay]

i used about a week of candy and got like 1500 bullseye statues, so i was like nope, not time to do this

[dapper prism]

"What do you mean DK, im using BM"
"No why do i need crystal cards"
"My Drop rate is 4x, but that's really good because it was 2.8x last week!"

[scarlet bay]

this is so sad

so close to 12

[sharp igloo]

ES at woodmushrooms gives a lot of bullseye statues.

[scarlet bay]

yeah that's what i was doing, so presumably my damage is just not high enough to make good use of it

well, i wasn't candying at wood

[dapper prism]

You dont candy wood

[rough wasp]

I’m farming green stacks rn 🥲

[scarlet bay]

but i got like 80 bullseyes in 30 minutes at wood mushrooms so i decided to try candy instead

[dapper prism]

You active wood, you candy the other, forgot which, but it's in pins (Nuttos)

[sharp igloo]

I wouldnt candy any statues. You get most of them from crystals

[signal osprey]

Candy nuttos

[grizzled elk]

I did active ES for bullseye which was a drag, but W3 active has been even slower

[grizzled elk]

W3 are mob drops

[scarlet bay]

yeah i'm just skipping them until my ES is strong enough to get like, 200+ wormholes

[dapper prism]

Active wasn't that bad for tree and W3. Still like 800-1k+ /h active

[glacial venture]

w3 statues are slooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwww

[dapper prism]

Candy just used up 10x the amount in hours. Which could have some better uses tbh

[signal osprey]

Candy is an infinite resource

Active farming is limited to 24 hours per day

Anything that can be candied should be

[scarlet bay]

but you get candy by using real life time

[sharp igloo]

Ah, I havent done the w3 statues yet

[scarlet bay]

which is the same resource

[signal osprey]

So that active time is reserved for things that can only been done active

[old coyote]

how good are the w5 gemshop bonuses?

[signal osprey]

Active time is infinitely more valuable than candy

[sharp igloo]

Until you run out of candy lol

[signal osprey]

Yeah but a large portion of that is from giants which you get during normal active farming and the rest is from colo which is still easily 100+ hours of candy per 1 real hour spent

[rough wasp]

ngl I’m candying some resource cards lmao

[signal osprey]

I candied most of my resource cards

[rough wasp]

It’s more efficient than me waiting for the cards

[sharp igloo]

I just realized today that I dont have a single alien log card lmao

[signal osprey]

If it can be candied or afk'd it is almost always best to do it that way

[glacial venture]

combine candying res cards with doingf the 100k statues

[dapper prism]

speaking of active.. I feel like 99% of my game right now is purely afk Active DK at wurms xD

Trying to get trophy/cape on all (especially neck)

Even at 60-70+ keys/h it still feels slow

[signal osprey]

I have 2 trophies and thats good enough

My bubo will farm the keys for the rest over time

[sharp igloo]

I feel like 1 trophy for active DK is honestly enough

[rough wasp]

I was active farming bubo for alchemy but now I’m back on my ES for greenstacks and farming mats

[barren otter]

i will stop at 10 trophies

[dapper prism]

oh damn, idk why but i keep forgetting that i want to active Bubo xD
ty for the reminder

[sharp igloo]

Id just candy greenstacks. I did that the other day and went from 68-103

[signal osprey]

I stopped at 1 trophy until like 2 days ago when I just went and used a few thousand keys and got the second

[sharp igloo]

Took about 150 2 hour candies

[signal osprey]

As long as DK has a trophy you're good to go

[sharp igloo]

Oh nice. I got my first cape today after about 3000 keys

[scarlet bay]

is there a class you should be candying on above the others, or just your best afk gain character?

[rough wasp]

Stop at 11 for when he adds the new slot

[barren otter]

but you cant prefarm it...

[signal osprey]

Afk gains should be pretty similar on anyone as you can swap gear around. The main goal is DR so usually vman is best

Assuming you mean candying for the statues. That will be different for other things

[dapper prism]

Check Pins

[scarlet bay]

i was more thinking greenstacks

[signal osprey]

My first took about 27k

[scarlet bay]

though same idea, i assume

[dapper prism]

Oh greenstack

[signal osprey]

For green stacks you'd put more emphasis on multikill

[sharp igloo]

I did greenstacks on ES, but thats just cause hes stronger than my other guys so I get more mk on him

[scarlet bay]

oh right

[signal osprey]

So ES would be the best bet unless your SB is built a lot better then he might win

[scarlet bay]

definitely not, dex characters are probably my weakest rn

been focusing DK and bubo for alch and statue farming

[signal osprey]

As you should

[dire tinsel]

activing my SB is only getting like 2k statues/hr (doing 100k)

[dapper prism]

for the 100k, you doing mining?

[sharp igloo]

My archers were way weaker than my mages last month, and now all of a sudden theyre like pretty close. Not sure what happened there. I think it was because I deposited a ton of speed statues

[dire tinsel]

mining is only 104 lumberbob statues per hour unfort

[dapper prism]

Then you have other issues on your setup..

Stop overgrinding statues if your stuff isn't setup right

[fast grail]

yeah 104 sounds like tons of stuff is missing

[signal osprey]

Yeah 100 per hour might be the lowest number I've seen so far. I think you forgot something

[dapper prism]

Should have an extra 0 there xD

[signal osprey]

Which tbf its easy to forget stuff. Earlier someone in here went from 300 to 600 per hour just by taking off a prayer

[barren otter]

is your eff at 100% for whatever youre mining?

[dire tinsel]

yea, i'll have ot try again

[dapper prism]

How does DR affect Statues from skilling, just the usual way like mobs?

[signal osprey]

I finally got another kruk neck and my bubo got his scarf which put him over 40k wisdom in a farming setup

[untold lintel]

does this work like rift slug? if i have lvl 15 turkey it makes it lvl 25?

[glacial venture]

MAX lvl

[tacit tulip]

max level not current

[dapper prism]

Max levels, it increases the maximum level your food can reach

[glacial venture]

not +lvl

[signal osprey]

By default they cap at 30

Which is raised to 40, 50, or 60 depending on artifact tier

[untold lintel]

oh I didnt even know they had max levels lol so thanks

[rough wasp]

I should farm a set of DR oboes for my DK

[fast grail]

vman was best for fishing statue right?

[signal osprey]

Yeah by a lot

[barren otter]

@signal osprey what cards/chips did you use when you candied skilling cards?

[signal osprey]

Double amarok and bunny with all CDR cards and then DR cards for the rest

Although for pure cards it might be better to double stache than bunny now that I think about it

[barren otter]

snap shot doubled up card drop set then swap?

[rough wasp]

Fishing statues can only get catching no?

[signal osprey]

If you snap shot yes. I didnt bother aside from alien logs

[tall horizon]

w2 catching only, yup.

[signal osprey]

Chips were skill afk and then all doublers

[barren otter]

and i guess now its better to trophy double divine over skill afk gain?

[fallen torrent]

last snake bos.. i took down both doot, and all the stone tomb, why is it still in defend mode (invicible)

[rough wasp]

Why is vman best?

[signal osprey]

Probably yeah although divine wasnt a thing when I did it so I dont know for sure

[barren otter]

fair yea

i will see in a few days

[fallen torrent]

Anyone knows why?

[signal osprey]

He has higher DR and he has a talent for increased effect of feasty statues which will give more skilling speed with catching food

[signal osprey]

You either didnt get 100% score in the minigames or you missed a statue somewhere

[fallen torrent]

@signal osprey yeah i didnt get 100% on the mining one cause i forgot to bring my dreadlo pickaxe 😦

dang it

[amber dragon]

I unlocked the 6th god, and have 7 character sitting lab using 5th god with mantra. Is it a good idea? Or I should just keep unlocking all the gods and use 2nd god afterward instead.

[misty spindle]

bad idea

go for 7th god tiger

[dapper prism]

You would slow yourself down for no reason while tiget gives you 2x xp and points for later on

[misty spindle]

he is pretty much the last god you need to rush, after that put as many characters as you need in lab with goat for xp

[full forum]

hello all, i just got vman unlocked (finally) and was wondering the best build for him for speedrunning? if anyone can please help me out

[dapper prism]

There's a tab in #1084911530417606656
Also remember to level maestro talent checkmate.
First run will suck and isnt as important since you just lack talent points either way, then tomorrows run you can do a lot better.

[rough wasp]

How many portals have u guys unlocked lmao

[full forum]

ah perfect ty

[dapper prism]

57, havnt gone back in a while

[amber dragon]

Damn thx guys. I been doing this wrong for like a month 😦

[dapper prism]

Either way you dont really need more than 56 i think

[dapper prism]

Not sure why everyone always wants to focus and rush XP, when there's 0 reward for it. Yet all you should want is points for more gods. Since the xp rate is so bad either way you wouldn't hit level 60 before even having the important gods anyways. May as well just purely focus gods

I did the same thing, just didnt realize how truely bad and slow the xp rate would be without all the multipliers

[signal osprey]

Just gotta div harder

[coral ravine]

Do y'all just run agi obols on SB?

[signal osprey]

Mine just has catching obols on all the time

[dapper prism]

here are my obols:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[coral goblet]

Is there a snapshot guide or vid or written up thing anywhere

[dapper prism]

Yes, what type of snapshot?

[coral ravine]

Ah, thanks.

[coral goblet]

I haven’t snapshotted at all or know how / the benefits yet and I’m deep in endgame

[dapper prism]

well, you can snapshot card chance stuff, or mana/hp for better sample kinda stuff.
There's also construction which im still confused about

[coral goblet]

Card stuff is what I was thinking, and health/ mama too if I can juice my prints when I reaample

[dapper prism]

Snapshotting Tips/Guide How to Snap
Card chance is the easiest if you need to grind out cards.

• Equip card chance cards
• Reload the map (either gem shop or walk into the map new)
• Then you're free to change your cards again
  This also works with candy

For Sampling Snapshot check the vid i posted here:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[signal osprey]

What about con is unclear?

[dapper prism]

Oh i just never did it, so honestly, 0 clue how the snap works

[sick sentinel]

cons ss is either wear cons obols then check cogs page for it to load, then swap to regular obols and dont refresh map or check cogs again.
you can also have cons obols on the afk dk/warrior, check cogs to load it, swap to active dk and dont refresh or check cogs

[signal osprey]

Yeah my con obols are on a lab character. I put my DK in a map then swap to the lab character and swap back to DK

Thats all it takes

[dapper prism]

So the only thing you can snap is the obols?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[coral goblet]

Interesting

[signal osprey]

The obols are op though

[dapper prism]

My 2nd DK has all con obols, so guess i could do that.

[sick sentinel]

they rly are

[dapper prism]

Oh i always thought they were minimal xD

[signal osprey]

The give speed not rate

[sick sentinel]

ye

[signal osprey]

Speed = rate and exp

[paper sail]

All those lost gains

[signal osprey]

I even snap shot family con obols which is more tedious but I dont mind because theyre just that strong

[dapper prism]

honestly i open the con page so often on my active that i'd probably waste it too often either way xD

To calculate progress id have to open con on that other alt again, right?

[signal osprey]

You can open the buildings just not the cog page

[sick sentinel]

the cons page is fine, just the cogs page resets

[manic moat]

When should I move these guys over to sigils? I'm gaining just in case for expansion... I'm hoping

[dapper prism]

Only when you have all bubbles tbh

[violet iris]

Go level up bubbles to W7

[signal osprey]

While active farming your con progress is calculated in real time so no

[manic moat]

I have all bubles but I heard there may be more bubbles later

[sick sentinel]

#1138827420338757753 message
for future world bubbles if you want to preunlock

[vagrant mountain]

cons snapping is op, it almost doubles my build rate

[lavish cloak]

if i want to start getting all my talents to max talent level, is the 20 book route best or do i roll them individually?

[dapper prism]

oh right, didnt see. Yes you can pre-unlock next world bubbles, but could also just do that closer to w6 release if your bubo isn't as high with skips

[dapper prism]

Once you have 245 book, you do roll 20's on the important stuff.

[signal osprey]

20 book is the way to go

[dapper prism]

You can do individual on the good to have stuff, but not as important.

Like definetely 245's on things like tab 1, effy, tab 2, active skill talent, 3d print, vman stuff etc etc.

[signal osprey]

And its very unlikely we get new talents levels any time soon so theres lots of time to work on them

[lavish cloak]

i've gotten the important sampling talents up and a few major important damage increasers, i'm just looking at...well...the marginal stuff i "might as well" also get to 245

[dapper prism]

I wrote some stuff here:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[manic moat]

If I'm understanding this, I need to keep boosting rather than save up?

[signal osprey]

I just 20 book random stuff now because books dont really matter after awhile

Lately I've been rolling all my books for 245 star talents

I'm at 0 out of 5

[dapper prism]

Should take you barely some days to get max boosts unless your bubo isnt setup yet, then as said, it's not worth doing w6 bubbles yet

[signal osprey]

Got 243 on the cooking money book so I guess thats good enough at least

[manic moat]

oh, I can keep brewing, I think I understand

[manic moat]

there are max boosts?

[dapper prism]

Yes, 170's

[manic moat]

ok, ty

[dapper prism]

What's your CC at? and you only do brew when active cc on bubo (and later liquids), else you keep stuff in sigils as there's no point in terms of time

[paper sail]

Books definitely way faster now. I almost get 4x perfect books per day if accurate.

[manic moat]

141

[paper sail]

I'm just making my way down every character, every skill that impacts sampling

[manic moat]

suppose I could get it to 240

[dapper prism]

I mean.. like CC time. Seconds. but also if that talent is at 141 you really shouldn't be caring or focusing on unlocking the new stuff

[manic moat]

I just have my top earners in each of the 4 cauldrons, rest are in sigils

[lavish cloak]

excellent information, thank you.

okay, so, i've gotten 10 20-books on each character minimum, some close to 50. and at this point i can't tell what's optimal vs please just make it a simple start with top left and end with bottom right in tab 4. i'll 20 book it rather than single roll. my luck is/hasbeen shit

[dapper prism]

Even then, that can be a waste. because time isnt time if you arn't doing CC's

[manic moat]

isn't CC only used like every 15 hours or so, why is that a big deal?

[dapper prism]

No.. tente reduces CC time.
If you setup your bubo correctly you get a CC every 15 minutes, that can skip like 20-100+ hours

[high cloud]

is there a strat to beating nm kattluekruk with blood beserker?

[dapper prism]

E.g. im getting 100h+ skips every ~14 minutes

[dapper prism]

Yes, see pins, essentially same as vman* but easier

[manic moat]

ah, I'll have to look at CC while I'm active, I have it on my 2nd bar which is why I never noticed

[dapper prism]

Yeh then even worse, that sounds like your bar isn't even setup in the right order 🤔

[quaint zodiac]

How do I turn an artifact ancient

[manic moat]

wait, nvm it's on the first

[dapper prism]

get the same one a second time (luck)

[dapper prism]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[pure ember]

I get around 86 hours per 20ish mins?

[pure ember]

Same as getting it in the first place, it's just rarer

[untold lintel]

is there a guide for CC?

[dapper prism]

I've probably written some basics several times, for starters click the link above

[fast grail]

Trickz, what kind of cc numbers do you get on socks?
Feel like my numbers should be higher, havent quite been able to get over 400k

[untold lintel]

where can I find all the sources for library max book level

[quaint zodiac]

Do you only ancient it once?

[dapper prism]

Yes and no,
its Normal -> Ancient -> Eldritch.

But to be able to get Eldritch you need to unlock it first in W4 Rift reward wave 31. Which takes a while

[dapper prism]

insight lets you find everything and all if you word stuff properly.
https://idleoninsight.com

[indigo grove]

Huh. That's weird number at speed you get cards

[sharp vine]

Seesaw halfway there. It's been days lol

[indigo grove]

But also yay neat. Only took 13 Days instead of 14. Lol.

[dapper prism]

I'm sorry but the inefficiency is killing me 👀

That's like 35-40k kph?

[indigo grove]

Good. This next might kill even more: now except for the 2 characters,all are sitting in cooking.

[dapper prism]

Oh gosh

[indigo grove]

Cause I had only a total of lvl 50 cooking. And my highest cooker (lvl 12 and one that actually has cooking related skills) is progressing w5. Another char is some random beginner in lab

[sharp vine]

Is it actually inefficient though, if he got it done now instead of doing other things during that time to make the eventuality of doing it quicker?

Badge just level cooking via ballons and pearls later

[dapper prism]

Cooking level does nothing for cooking though.. I dont see what you're even trying to say with this

And yeh, cooking xp is so bad one just balloons it..

I'm sorry but it really sounds like you are taking the least efficient way of doing things and picking it each time xD

[indigo grove]

This doesn't benefit from cooking lvls?

[dapper prism]

It says... TOTAL MEAL LEVELS

[indigo grove]

Oh meal.... I'm blind

In my defense I am legally half deaf and require hearing aids in both ears.

[sharp vine]

Yeah you only want cooking levels for the Skill mastery buff from the rift once you unlock it

Never actually need anyone besides your BB in cooking

[dapper prism]

Well and cooking levels for money multiplier from star talent from vip book

[sharp vine]

Yeah but that's a thing you'd only really bother fixating on like, 1-2 characters. Not account-wide

[fast grail]

Mastery exist

[sharp vine]

Refer to my previous comment, specifically about skill mastery

[fast grail]

ah

[dapper prism]

Yeh, easy to get 50-all then just focus rest on bubo (or dk)

[barren otter]

what does this atom even affect #achievement-pics message

i swear i gained* nothing the last time i leveled it

[dapper prism]

Think only mining? but also, remember to cloudsave after unlocking atoms for them to "count" apparently.

[fast grail]

Mining, catching, and construction talents are affected by it

[dapper prism]

I noticed when i got it up for Woodcutting, (no cloudsave) but that's when people here told me it doesnt affect woodcutting

[scarlet bay]

lol why wouldn't it affect woodcutting

some classic lavacode

[fast grail]

Yeah leaves arent affected because lava assumed we wouldnt ever start getting over 1b leaves

[indigo grove]

Does some have that?

[barren otter]

so then if im only ever at a 1b copper stack i dont really need to be leveling that atom up that much

[fast grail]

I mean, it wont give tons of eff, but gains are gains

Would be equiv to having 10T of that resource compared to 1b

if at lvl 7

[barren otter]

right

[fast grail]

Which makes the talent give like double the eff compared to 1b

[signal osprey]

One day it will effect leaves

[sharp vine]

What about stuff like Overclocked Energy? The one that counts power 10 mana for damage?

[signal osprey]

The atom specifies bonuses that use power of 10 resources

Not all power of 10 bonuses

[sharp vine]

Ah, yeah

[dapper bridge]

Only resources that go in the chest

[scarlet bay]

power of 10 resources (unless i decide that resource doesn't count)

[sharp vine]

I read so much shit in this game once and then just forget what it actually says I swear

[signal osprey]

Copper for mining, oak for catching, green souls for worship, froges for trapping, and red salts for build rate

I think those are what get boosted but maybe I missed one

[fast grail]

oh yeah, completly forgot about trapping/worship

[dapper bridge]

Farming souls is hard when you're as dumb as me anc can't pass past wave 10 in snowman map

[thorn oriole]

Those are two he said

[thorn oriole]

Chopping, leaves

[barren otter]

ok well i leveled it up one more time and my mining eff went up by 2.89%

[signal osprey]

Those dont count

[barren otter]

[thorn oriole]

That’s crazy

[dapper bridge]

Crazy is the fact that i went all the way to the pet treat tier and cant
't get frog anymore (atleast got doot)

Can't wait for trading

[violet iris]

Same problem but with sandpot

[dapper bridge]

Now i'm only missing slug from the ones i can actually get at this moment

[thorn oriole]

Can’t even pity get it

I’m luck enough to get them all, but unlucky to spend 200 to do so

[heavy moth]

oh noo got enough for rando but 2 short for bribe

[untold lintel]

got 25k seconds of time on my first CC. no clue really what im doing, but 7 hours of free liquid i will take

[night falcon]

200 usd??

[thorn oriole]

yessir

[signal osprey]

Thing is you said you were unlucky

But 200 is below average

So thats a lucky price

[thorn oriole]

but i dont wanna spend 200 lol

[night falcon]

how many weeks of free pulls would i need to get doot

[thorn oriole]

years

[signal osprey]

5 years

[night falcon]

didnt want divinities anyways

[signal osprey]

Granted thats a worst case scenario. On average it'll be faster for most people

[night falcon]

after enough updates, lava will increase the odds right

[signal osprey]

Why would he

[opaque sun]

pull more, that increases the odds

Every other mechanic in the game is “pull more than quality of a chance”

[signal osprey]

If lava wanted everyone to get all the companions he wouldnt have implemented them the way he did. That update was for his benefit not for ours

Anyone that expects him to make it better should be prepared to wait awhile